Some Georgia wisdom to start the week

Flannery O'Connor and one of her trademark peacocks at her farm near Milledgeville.

Flannery O'Connor and one of her trademark peacocks at her farm near Milledgeville.

Today, March 25, is the birthday of the wonderful Flannery O’Connor, the greatest writer in Georgia history if not the best-selling (take a bow of your own, Margaret Mitchell). Miss O’Connor, born in Savannah and for most of her life a resident of Milledgeville, had a talent for telling it straight and blunt, and for distilling complicated thoughts into sentences of startling clarity.

So let’s start the week with some selected O’Connor wisdom:

“The truth does not change according to our ability to stomach it.”

““Conviction without experience makes for harshness.”

“I hope you don’t have friends who recommend Ayn Rand to you. The fiction of Ayn Rand is as low as you can get re fiction. I hope you picked it up off the floor of the subway and threw it in the nearest garbage pail. She makes Mickey Spillane look like Dostoevsky.”

“You have to quit confusing a madness with a mission.”

– Jay Bookman

379 comments Add your comment

Keep Up the Good Fight!

March 25th, 2013
9:18 am

Gotta love the Ayn Rand wisdom. ;)

Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes

March 25th, 2013
9:19 am

She makes Mickey Spillane look like Dostoevsky

Oh, snap!

Shar

March 25th, 2013
9:21 am

The madness/mission quote is wonderful. Brings to mind “Mission Accomplished”.

Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes

March 25th, 2013
9:23 am

“There are two novels that can change a bookish fourteen-year old’s life: The Lord of the Rings and Atlas Shrugged . One is a childish fantasy that often engenders a lifelong obsession with its unbelievable heroes, leading to an emotionally stunted, socially crippled adulthood, unable to deal with the real world. The other, of course, involves orcs.”
― Thomas “John Rogers” Jefferson

Georgia on my mind...

March 25th, 2013
9:23 am

Margaret Mitchell = Gold Ayn Rand = Wooden Nickels

The Sophist-icated Republican

March 25th, 2013
9:24 am

Words our dear Republicans should learn to live by.

Granny Godzilla

March 25th, 2013
9:24 am

“The truth does not change according to our ability to stomach it.”

Boy, that’s a tough lesson we all have to learn.

Erwin's cat

March 25th, 2013
9:25 am

Having not read Ayn Rand…..can her work really be that bad…i mean she was published some 50 years ago and still gets a lot of attention good and bad from both sides….further can’t we celebrate O’Connor on her on merits w/o bashing someone else?

Doggone/GA

March 25th, 2013
9:26 am

“….further can’t we celebrate O’Connor on her on merits w/o bashing someone else?”

WE didn’t “bash someone else”….SHE did

Welcome to the Occupation

March 25th, 2013
9:27 am

“Damn Jesus fanatics” – Wise Blood

Erwin's cat

March 25th, 2013
9:27 am

WE didn’t “bash someone else”….SHE did

promoting her bashing is the same thing unless of course those are the only quotes we can attribute to O’Connor…or were the quotes cherry pick to mock Rand?

Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes

March 25th, 2013
9:29 am

…..can her work really be that bad…

As a work of fiction?

It has a heaving bosom, Heathcliff on-the-moor set in the industrial age kind of quality.

As a blue print for economic guidance?

Sux goat testicles.

Doggone/GA

March 25th, 2013
9:30 am

“unless of course those are the only quotes we can attribute to O’Connor”

You got better ones? Then post them.

Granny Godzilla

March 25th, 2013
9:30 am

Erwin

Considering Ayn Rands importance in current conservo-think….
You best read it.

Gale

March 25th, 2013
9:31 am

Kamchak, I’ll take Orcs!

Jay, What an introduction. I must find some of her writings.

Recon 0311 2533

March 25th, 2013
9:33 am

Well this topic should keep the sheep entertained so that they’re off the streets and out of productive peoples way. Big government socialists sure cling to a hatred for the late author Ayn Rand.

Stevie Ray

March 25th, 2013
9:33 am

JAY

Glad you have highlighted O’Connors work…too bad we don’t have more…she died at 40 (?) and I can only imagine what her writing would have been like as her experience aged beyond…She has always been one of my favorites..

Why are liberals so afraid of Ayn Rand? Is it because the society portrayed that became the motivation for fictional characters to leave the market (could be see diminished returns from tax increases like France?) seems to be the trajectory we are on?

I loathe the fact that the fictional theme of her books somehow, likely due to her drug use, became an effort at a sophomoric philosophical movement.

Outside of attacking the author, is anyone here capable of arguing why the contents of her fictional work are so offensive to liberals..could it be that opinion without experience is exemplified?

Erwin's cat

March 25th, 2013
9:33 am

Considering Ayn Rands importance in current conservo-think….
You best read it.

I have no interest in either

JamVet

March 25th, 2013
9:34 am

Wise Blood was one of the more insufferable pieces of literature that I have ever read. (Thanks, you evil liberal college professors!)

Granted, it was nowhere near as bad as that tripe novel of Rand’s (which I tried to read twice, and couldn’t get past 50 pages either time), but it was still painful to get through.

Give me Eudora Welty, any time…

Fred ™

March 25th, 2013
9:34 am

Never heard of her before. I reckon that makes me stoopid. But I like her Ayn Rand quote……….

Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes

March 25th, 2013
9:35 am

Why are liberals so afraid of Ayn Rand?

Why is “afraid/scared of” always the default fall back position?

Project much?

Normal, Plain and Simple

March 25th, 2013
9:36 am

“You have to quit confusing a madness with a mission.”

Somebody should tattoo that on the Tea Party’s forehead….

Granny Godzilla

March 25th, 2013
9:36 am

AFraid of Ayn Rand?

snicker.

barking frog

March 25th, 2013
9:37 am

Erwin’s cat
Don’t read Ayn Rand. Buy Her books and put them on
a shelf next to your Bible and leave all of them alone.
Pick and choose to believe what is said about them
using reason regarding the speaker as most comments
will have nothing to do with their content.

Stevie Ray

March 25th, 2013
9:37 am

Erwin’s cat

March 25th, 2013
9:25 am

Good question. It appears the reason the comments anytime she is brought up here have more to do with her failed attempt of taking a fictional theme from a fictional work and suggesting this as philosophy…

The criticism of the fictional writings is simply talking point as far as I can tell…I do see some correlation of her society as portrayed in Fountainhead and Shrugged to today. Government expansion…push to tax top 20% so overall taxes paid by those folks exceeds 50%..

Mick

March 25th, 2013
9:38 am

Always feel close to those who speak some truth…

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SLsBwLhIVkk

Jay

March 25th, 2013
9:38 am

“Why are liberals so afraid of Ayn Rand?”

Why do conservatives so often attribute criticism to fear?

(O’Connor wasn’t politically active as far as I know, but in many ways she would have been categorized as conservative.)

The Sophist-icated Republican

March 25th, 2013
9:38 am

Perhaps our esteemed “makers” would do well to not place so much faith in the fictional rants of Ayn Rand. Ms. O’Connor is simply one of many to highlight the fallacy in doing so.

godless heathen - owner of many things he does not need

March 25th, 2013
9:38 am

A friend posted an excerpt of Ms. O’Conner reading from one of books. The cadence and accent of the now mostly gone old southern speech was enthralling. I could listen to it for hours without paying any attention to the meaning of the words being spoken.

If you have a minute:

http://youtu.be/QZZgs46t9Z0

Fred ™

March 25th, 2013
9:38 am

Why are liberals so afraid of Ayn Rand? Is it because the society portrayed that became the motivation for fictional characters to leave the market (could be see diminished returns from tax increases like France?) seems to be the trajectory we are on?

Wow. There is SO MUCH fundamentally wrong with that paragraph that it boggles the mind and makes it impossible to pick where to start………….

Stevie Ray

March 25th, 2013
9:39 am

Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes

March 25th, 2013
9:35 am

Then what do you have against her fictional works? What is the threat to you?

Keep Up the Good Fight!

March 25th, 2013
9:39 am

I don’t know of any in government who openly based their philosophy of government based on the Lord of the Rings, the Foundation trilogy, Harry Potter or any number of sci fi works. We do know however that any number of GOP leaders have and have handed the book to their staff as required reading.

Regnad Kcin

March 25th, 2013
9:41 am

“I have no interest in either”

Ecat – there is really no reason to read it for its literary merits – it’s not terrible, but its certainly not good. However, it’s interesting to see how what is basically bad fantasy/pulp gets turned into a cultural icon. And it doesn’t take long to read – there’s not much meat…

Fred ™

March 25th, 2013
9:42 am

Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes

March 25th, 2013
9:19 am

Oh, snap!
++++++++++++++++++++++++

Ya know…….. no matter what we say about today’s generation there IS hope for them when they can come up with something like “Oh Snap” as an expletive. It is SO much better than Oh sh…… never mind.

What better is that you don’t even have to say “Pause” after it lol.

Mr. Snarky

March 25th, 2013
9:43 am

Her comments re Ayn Rand only raise my esteem for her.

Brosephus™

March 25th, 2013
9:44 am

Never read Ayn Rand nor Flannery O’Conner so I don’t have a dog in this fight. When one of them can bring insight into my perspective like James Baldwin, then I’ll give them a read.

Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes

March 25th, 2013
9:44 am

Then what do you have against her fictional works?

Let’s try this one mo time.

As

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a

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blueprint

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for

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economic

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guidance

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it

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sux

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goat

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testicles.

What is the threat to you?

There’s an implication of that fear thingie again.

Check you phonograph, the needle is stuck and is skipping.

Ayn Rand Bio

March 25th, 2013
9:44 am

Ayn Rand was a Russian-American novelist, philosopher, playwright, and screenwriter. She is known for her two best-selling novels, The Fountainhead and Atlas Shrugged, and for developing a philosophical system she called Objectivism.

Stevie Ray

March 25th, 2013
9:45 am

Fred ™

March 25th, 2013
9:38 am

Quite a sweeping statement..why don’t you enlighten us with a sampling of the fallacies in that particular statement?

The Sophist-icated Republican

March 25th, 2013
9:45 am

We would do better by attempting to model our society around one presented by Asimov over that of Rand on any given day.

TBS

March 25th, 2013
9:45 am

Stevie Ray

Speaking of scared, based on previous comments can it be said you are scared of the NY Times?

You seem to get as riled up about them as claim others get about Rand.

Just saying

Erwin's cat

March 25th, 2013
9:46 am

frog – Pick and choose to believe what is said about them
using reason regarding the speaker as most comments
will have nothing to do with their content.

Some things I prefer to have no opinion…Rand is one of them

JamVet

March 25th, 2013
9:46 am

Personally, I’m terrified of Ayn Rand.

I have endless nightmares of being tied down, gagged and being forced to listen to her read her books to me, all the while she is blowing great clouds of cigarette smoke into my face. (With our unread, unreasoned cons here, sitting behind her and nodding in approval.)

/sarc off/

Stevie Ray

March 25th, 2013
9:47 am

Ayn Rand Bio

March 25th, 2013
9:44 am

Funny how all those here who bash Rand need a bio for her….

Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes

March 25th, 2013
9:44 am

Your enthusiastic commentary speaks volumes..can you explain exactly how her economic blueprint as evidenced in her novel offends you so? Go deeper than goat’s testicles if possible.

Welcome to the Occupation

March 25th, 2013
9:48 am

Stevie: “..is anyone here capable of arguing why the contents of her fictional work are so offensive to liberals..?”

I don’t know, but could be for more or less the same reason that the non-fictional works of Karl Marx are so “offensive” to conservatives.

The lady absolutely had an ideological axe to grind, did she not?

Stevie Ray

March 25th, 2013
9:49 am

TBS

March 25th, 2013
9:45 am

Can’t disagree but I will always defend her fictional works…not her objectivism crap but her novels.

Jay

March 25th, 2013
9:49 am

“Then what do you have against her fictional works?

Because they’re terrible.

They feature crude cardboard characters in crude cardboard situations saying and doing things that have no relationship to real-life human interaction but do “illustrate” the simplistic, extremely narcissistic political philosophy that she espoused.

Other than that, they’re great.

USinUK ... donde esta SPRING!!!???

March 25th, 2013
9:50 am

Thanks, Jay … I had a high school teacher that LOVED Flannery O’Connor and opened the door to her fabulous writing

The Sophist-icated Republican

March 25th, 2013
9:51 am

Given the obvious desire by many a Republican to jump Ayn Rand’s bones, I propose digging her up and charging them a fee for the privilege and applying said fee toward the national debt. It is only fitting.

Brosephus™

March 25th, 2013
9:51 am

Can’t disagree but I will always defend her fictional works…not her objectivism crap but her novels.

Given that her novels appear to be based on her thoughts of objectivism, how do you defend one but not the other? Just curious about that as I don’t have an opinion of her or her works.

Erwin's cat

March 25th, 2013
9:51 am

As will be evidence in this blog…the topic is not how good O’Connor was but on how misled Rand was…too bad for O’Connor eh?

USinUK ... donde esta SPRING!!!???

March 25th, 2013
9:51 am

“We would do better by attempting to model our society around one presented by Dr. Seuss over that of Rand on any given day.”

JamVet

March 25th, 2013
9:52 am

Other than that, they’re great.

Guffaw…

Fred ™

March 25th, 2013
9:53 am

The Sophist-icated Republican: Are you a new poster or someone with a name change that I missed?

Regnad Kcin

March 25th, 2013
9:53 am

“We would do better by attempting to model our society around one presented by Asimov over that of Rand on any given day”

Psychohistory vs. objectivism…hmmm…seems one makes about as much sense as the other.

Stevie Ray

March 25th, 2013
9:53 am

Welcome to the Occupation

March 25th, 2013
9:48 am

Agreed and absolutely…given her background it is not surprising. I think her point is that the more the government over reaches, the more the possibility exists for getting to a point of diminishing returns..

I posted at other forum the massive increases, often 50% or more, in defense, welfare, education and “other” expenditures…what return are we getting from our investments? Hard to argue the education increase of 50% since 2008 is not attempted over reach without value..

barking frog

March 25th, 2013
9:54 am

Erwin’s cat
My point was that you do not need to read any of
Rand’s material to judge the people who believe
they represent her philosophy and you do not need
to form any opinion of her either.

Fred ™

March 25th, 2013
9:55 am

Having not read Ayn Rand

While I have heard that ignorance is bliss, might I in this case suggest you read her works before you comment?

Mick

March 25th, 2013
9:56 am

Atlas shrugged??? Try “Jonathan Livingston Seagull”, soaring….

Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes

March 25th, 2013
9:56 am

Go deeper than goat’s testicles if possible.

Her works are no deeper than goat’s testicles.

I can only work with what I got.

Speaking of her works, the filmsAtlas Shrugged I & II cost $30 million to produce, but yet the combined revenues from both seem to be around $7.

Given that one of the premises of her works is a warning about throwing good money after bad, why have they green lighted production on the third installment?

Erwin's cat

March 25th, 2013
9:56 am

in this case suggest you read her works before you comment?

My comments are not about Rand, but rather the O’Connor vehicle used to run her over

The Sophist-icated Republican

March 25th, 2013
9:57 am

Fred,

Every one of my posts are new given that the blog will not accept duplicates, most of the time.

Fred ™

March 25th, 2013
9:57 am

Well this topic should keep the sheep entertained so that they’re off the streets and out of productive peoples way. Big government socialists sure cling to a hatred for the late author Ayn Rand.

Someone help me out here. Is the ignorance of this post only exceeded by it’s arrogance or is it the other way around?

Fred ™

March 25th, 2013
9:58 am

Outside of attacking the author, is anyone here capable of arguing why the contents of her fictional work are so offensive to liberals..could it be that opinion without experience is exemplified?

Done that for you at least 8 times. Why should I hold out hope you would read and understand a 9th time?

Stevie Ray

March 25th, 2013
9:59 am

Brosephus™

March 25th, 2013
9:51 am

Simple. I really enjoyed the novels like I enjoy any literature that offers a unique plot, exceptionally well developed characters and thoughtful overall approach.

It is impossible to defend the selfish focal point of her objectivism and I won’t attempt to do so. Many of my favorite all time reads feature backdrops of fictional (or possibly underlying projections) of future societies but those certainly don’t impact my pleasures of the books.

The dopey GOP is what gives her fictional writings a bad name and I suspect since this is more of an anti GOP blog, that explains the animosity….The idea that many in the GOP use these works as a scare tactic messaging is yet another heap of political hubris..

Fred ™

March 25th, 2013
9:59 am

LOL Sophist: I meant YOU. Are YOU new here or have you had a name change. If you are new here, a belated welcome. If it’s a name change, I missed the announcement lol.

Regnad Kcin

March 25th, 2013
10:00 am

In quality and style, rand’s works always remind me of the faux-novel, “The Iron Dream” by Adolf Hitler, wrtitten by Norman Spinrad. Purple prose, no characterization, and you’re obviously supposed to be as excited about what’s going on as the author is.

Stevie Ray

March 25th, 2013
10:00 am

Fred ™

March 25th, 2013
9:58 am

I clearly don’t recall any of those cogent postings of yours….to make it easy, why not just cut and paste for me?

Keep Up the Good Fight!

March 25th, 2013
10:00 am

Ayn Rand seems to fit in with the overly simplistic mentality of the GOP. Like the bumper slogan mentality it avoids the nuances of reality and governing, it fails to acknowledge the weaknesses and failures of “free market” for a simple solution. Further, the Randians only follow it when it suits their objectives and have no problem in providing subsidies for “free market enterprise” while leaving many people behind. Smart government makes their mush for brains hurt.

The Sophist-icated Republican

March 25th, 2013
10:02 am

Psychohistory vs. objectivism…hmmm…seems one makes about as much sense as the other.

My comment was merely in response to an earlier effort to associate a particular work by Asimov with those by Rand. I only suggest that if one should be asked to choose between the two, the choice by myself would be for Asimov’s fictional settings.

Soothsayer

March 25th, 2013
10:02 am

Stevie Ray

March 25th, 2013
10:02 am

Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes

March 25th, 2013
9:56 am

Yeah the second one really sucked to be certain…so the movies are a bust? What does that have to do with the questions I posed you? Is simply comparison to Dr Suess the best you got?

Regnad Kcin

March 25th, 2013
10:04 am

“In quality and style, rand’s works always remind me of the faux-novel, “The Iron Dream” by Adolf Hitler, wrtitten by Norman Spinrad”

I don’t mean to imply I didn’t enjoy them. :)

jewcowboy

March 25th, 2013
10:05 am

The 70(!) pages of John Galt’s screed in “Atlas Shrugged” is probably the most unreadable tripe in the history of fiction. Setting aside the almost child-like naivete and selfishness present in her writing, Rand’s style of prose itself was insipid and pedestrian. Even Jackie Collins is a better author.

Brosephus™

March 25th, 2013
10:05 am

Stevie Ray

Ok. If I want fiction, I’ll read Stephen King. I honestly prefer to read non-fiction, historical books. That’s just my kick though. When I want fiction, I’ll go to sleep and dream. :)

Fred ™

March 25th, 2013
10:05 am

Quite a sweeping statement..why don’t you enlighten us with a sampling of the fallacies in that particular statement?

Perhaps we can start with the “afraid’ thing. Only you talk radio FOXBOTS are afraid of everything. Clear up THAT fallacy and perhaps we can attempt a rational conversation on the rest of the tripe.

Regnad Kcin

March 25th, 2013
10:06 am

” I only suggest that if one should be asked to choose between the two, the choice by myself would be for Asimov’s fictional settings.”

Oh, I agree – Asimov’s futures were generally forward-looking and hopeful.

Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes

March 25th, 2013
10:06 am

Is simply comparison to Dr Suess the best you got?

Your reading comprehension sux as bad as your ability to discern character development.

You can show me where I compared Rand to Suess, yes?

Thanks in advance.

Stevie Ray

March 25th, 2013
10:07 am

Keep Up the Good Fight!

March 25th, 2013
10:00 am

I agree and it is too easy too easy to confuse her fictional work with philosophy excepting the overiding concept of government growth which both parties can’t get enough of…look at increase in defense spending alone..688 bln to 900 bln since 2008…

Government growth is outcome of both parties…look at drugs and Medicare per Bush…education, welfare the list goes on…and none of them can even agree to limit growth…much less have the nuts to enact cuts, if simply to eliminate more waste.

The Sophist-icated Republican

March 25th, 2013
10:07 am

If it’s a name change, I missed the announcement lol.

Perhaps the blog has no Herald for I too missed said announcement. Dreadful is it not. Perhaps we should have a word with the host.

TBS

March 25th, 2013
10:09 am

Stevie

Just as you like Rand and I assume some of the underlying economic premises within them, is not alright for someone to disagree with those underlying economic premises?

Someone says something about Rand and you tend to get a little upset. At the same time you have no problem saying when you do not agree with any given article or media outlet.

While we all have it to some degree or another, don’t let your selective condemnation get the best of you.

barking frog

March 25th, 2013
10:09 am

I agree with all her quotes, especially the last one, but then
I am the great grandson of a Confederate soldier who never
owned a foot of land or a slave.

Fred ™

March 25th, 2013
10:10 am

I clearly don’t recall any of those cogent postings of yours….to make it easy, why not just cut and paste for me?

No. You go back through every blog in the last 6 months and find them yourself lol.

Stevie Ray

March 25th, 2013
10:11 am

Brosephus™

March 25th, 2013
10:05 am

Yeah me as well but my lastest thing is to get thru the top 50 fictional writings of all time as espoused by several different sources..I’m only at 24 now..admittedly, getting through James Joyce was excruciatingly painful but the most intriquing so far is Invisible Man…read that one twice..damn chilling read.

I also am on an historical Russian fiction kick….

JamVet

March 25th, 2013
10:12 am

In the dark ages before endless Tard TV, we used to read. (And some of us still do!)

Yeah, there were these things called books and libraries and they were my amazing window to the world, the one that stretched far beyond Sumner County, Kansas. All kinds of different books! Zane Grey to HG Wells to Ernest Hemingway to Ray Bradbury to Alistair MacLean to James Michener to Johann David Wyss to Thor Heyerdahl to John Steinbeck to James Earl Carter.

And of course, the aforementioned Tolkien.

And if I were to make a list of my top 100 authors, neither of those women’s names would even cross my mind…

Fred ™

March 25th, 2013
10:12 am

Perhaps the blog has no Herald for I too missed said announcement. Dreadful is it not. Perhaps we should have a word with the host.

Ok, so you wish to be deliberately obtuse. Your choice. Thanks.

Brad Steel

March 25th, 2013
10:13 am

rrrowwwwr. cat fight!

Erwin's cat

March 25th, 2013
10:15 am

Better O’Connor quotes:
“I don’t deserve any credit for turning the other cheek as my tongue is always in it.”

“I write to discover what I know.”

“Only if we are secure in our beliefs can we see the comical side of the universe.”

“I think it is safe to say that while the South is hardly Christ-centered, it is most certainly Christ-haunted.”

Mick

March 25th, 2013
10:15 am

Ayn rand…in the end, hypocrite poster child for social security and medicare…irony thy name is rand

TBS

March 25th, 2013
10:16 am

“I don’t deserve any credit for turning the other cheek as my tongue is always in it.”

That is a great one

Brosephus™

March 25th, 2013
10:17 am

Yeah me as well but my lastest thing is to get thru the top 50 fictional writings of all time as espoused by several different sources

I don’t go by those lists. There’s no guarantee that the people compiling those lists have the same likes/dislikes as I do. There are a few authors who I’ll read, and I’ll pick out others based on how they relate to the authors that I like.

JamVet

March 25th, 2013
10:17 am

Government growth is the natural outcome of a nation’s growth.

The days of 13 states and 3,600,000 people are gone.

The problems are a hundred times bigger and more complicated now…

Regnad Kcin

March 25th, 2013
10:17 am

“I also am on an historical Russian fiction kick….”

Then you’ll have to go back and watch “Love and Death” again…

Welcome to the Occupation

March 25th, 2013
10:17 am

Fred 9:57.

I wish I could favorite that post. :)

We need a favorite button on here .

JamVet

March 25th, 2013
10:18 am

“I think it is safe to say that while the South is hardly Christ-centered, it is most certainly Christ-haunted.”

Which likely explains her obsession with grotesque characters and religiosity of the nightmarish kind…

indigo

March 25th, 2013
10:19 am

“you have to quit confusing a madness for a mission”

Excellent advice for The Republican Tea Party.

“the truth does not change according to our ability to stomach it”

Even better advice for the mindless cons here who actually believe Republicans care about them.

Fred ™

March 25th, 2013
10:19 am

“……..to Alistair MacLean…….”

Now there is a name i haven’t heard in a while and an author I liked. I can still remember in one of his books, where the guy is confronted with someone holding a .45 pointed at his knee and he describes it like (not a direct quote) “I braced my leg for the impact, which really had same effect as holding up a piece up paper in front of it………”

Where Eagles Dare is still one of my Favorites althugh breakheart pass was a great western from a non western writer. Speaking of Westerns……. Louis La’Mour?

The Sophist-icated Republican

March 25th, 2013
10:20 am

Ok, so you wish to be deliberately obtuse. Your choice. Thanks.

Truly there’s no need to be so acute about my lack of formal presentation for it is not I that have failed to hire an Herald.

by golly

March 25th, 2013
10:21 am

Show of hands-who had even heard of Ayn Rand before Paul Ryan became her biggest fan? I read her drivel back in high school. I was convinced books that thick just had to have some juicy sex scenes, I was severely disappointed. LOL

Erwin's cat

March 25th, 2013
10:21 am

“Faith comes and goes. It rises and falls like the tides of an invisible ocean. If it is presumptuous to think that faith will stay with you forever, it is just as presumptuous to think that unbelief will.”