Note to Legislature: Nothing’s ‘historic’ until it passes

According to leaders of the Georgia House, the ethics-reform plan that their chamber passed overwhelmingly last month is an achievement of historic proportions. In fact, it “represents without overstatement or understatement the most ambitious change in ethics laws in modern times,” as state Rep. Rich Golick described the plan to a Senate committee this week.

It’s fair to say that Senate leaders were not impressed.

One day after Golick’s presentation, senators proceeded to dump most of the House plan and replace it with their own, very different plan. This was described by one senator as “an historic ethics proposal with the potential to change the culture” of state government.

Setting aside their alleged historic nature, the approaches championed by the two chambers have little in common. The House has passed what it claims to be a total ban on lobbyist expenditures, although as senators like to point out, that “ban” includes significant loopholes. According to Golick, those loopholes are needed to accommodate “ordinary and customary practice” in the Legislature.

The Senate has responded with a bill that closes those loopholes, for example by banning lobbyist expenditures on legislative family members and staff. But instead of banning lobbyist gifts to legislators, it merely caps their value at $100 a pop, leading House Speaker David Ralston to call it “more of a visor than a cap.” As Ralston has also accurately pointed out, the Senate plan allows legislators to accept an unlimited number of those $100 gifts, including several a day should they wish to do so.

Here’s what the situation looks like:

— Either plan is better than the current system, which contains no limits on lobbyist giving whatsoever. The voters of Georgia have made it clear that they are no longer willing to tolerate such lax laws or the political culture they create.

— Neither plan is as ambitious as its supporters claim. Both would have to be tightened considerably before the high praise of their authors could be justified, and it’s far from certain that is going to happen.

— At some point very soon, leaders of the House and Senate are going to have to sit down to try to reconcile their very different approaches into a single piece of legislation that both can support. The process won’t be easy or quick. Both chambers have significant pride of authorship, and are likely to balk at publicly backing down and accepting the other body’s plan.

And with the legislative schedule calling for the session to end Thursday, March 27, time is running out.

The best compromise might be a plan that drops the Senate’s $100-per-item limit to a more reasonable $50, which would still allow purchase of a lunch or reasonable dinner by a lobbyist looking for an ear to bend. It’s not a ban, but it’s not a $100 cap either. In other words, it would be a victory for ethics reform, while allowing neither chamber to claim victory over the other. It’s also important that loopholes in both approaches be tightened.

However, it is also all too plausible that no such compromise is reached in the hustle and bustle of the session’s last days, leaving current law in place. If that’s the outcome, leaders in the House and Senate will surely attempt to blame each other for that failure. After all this posturing and talk of historic achievement, though, I have a hard time believing that voters will have any patience with either side should that happen.

– Jay Bookman

387 comments Add your comment

n

March 22nd, 2013
12:49 pm

Republicans and Democrats are more or less equally corrupt, IMO. The difference is that Republicans were new to power a decade ago and thought of the Capitol as their own personal bonanza goldmine and playground. They had/have absolutely no finesse and proceeded to instantly run amok, taking huge handouts from lobbyists, indulging in all sorts of self-dealing, and writing idiotic legislation, some of which got passed. It has taken a decade to weed out some of the worst of them, eg. Richardson, Pearson, Rogers, etc.. What the Republicans totally lack is any sense of public service. There is absolutely no one with any vision at all. They are there to line their pockets and that’s it.

The Democrats, although equally corrupt and money-grubbing, at least were more sophisticated and circumspect in their operations, as they went about lining their pockets. And, at least occasionally, they did something productive., and passed a law or two that actually benefited the public and the state’s future.

I can’t think of a single productive thing the GA Republicans have done while running the state. They have cut back K-12 education, environmental enforcement, Natural Resources, Forestry, Veterans, State Parks, bank regulation, highway & infrastructure maintenance, etc., while devoting all their energies to giving handouts to themselves, their cronies, and out of state corporate campaign donors that want handouts & revenue streaming from the taxpayers (eg: Charter School companies, prison companies, probation companies, insurance companies, etc. etc.)

Such free-wheeling corruption inevitably leads to the downfall of a state, or a nation.

Welcome to the Occupation

March 22nd, 2013
12:49 pm

Morality,

GODD are you a dupe. A dupe of the 1% (of which you are doubtless not one). Painful to watch.

Logical Dude

March 22nd, 2013
12:50 pm

Why can’t someone just take a legislator out for a burger?

http://most-expensive.net/burgers-world

Because they’d want a Douche Burger.

barking frog

March 22nd, 2013
12:52 pm

Ethics legislation should be called the ‘cap on bribes’ law.

DownInAlbany

March 22nd, 2013
12:53 pm

Doggone/GA

March 22nd, 2013
12:34 pm

So, you refuse to answer the question…or move the goal posts…whichever works for you sport!

willie lynch

March 22nd, 2013
12:54 pm

What good comes from lobbyist wining and dining elected officials?

Regnad Kcin

March 22nd, 2013
12:54 pm

“I found a small handful of examples.”

Thanks, southpaw!

alittlecommonsense

March 22nd, 2013
12:55 pm

“Looked in a mirror lately?”

I try very hard to make sure I am treating both political parties exactly the same. I philisophically am closer to republicans, but when it comes to things like ethics, credit / blame, etc., I am absolutely as tough on R’s as D’s.

So yes, I have looked in the mirror and I try very hard to be intellectually honest. I may fall short some time but if you see it, point it out. I don’t have a problem re-examining my position.

DownInAlbany

March 22nd, 2013
12:55 pm

Doggone/GA

March 22nd, 2013
12:35 pm

So, you support the current borrow and spend track we are on and believe it’s sustainable? You probably agreed when Obama called Bush unpatriotic.

Morality?

March 22nd, 2013
12:55 pm

Googled just for you – “The Budget and Accounting Ac of 1921″ requires the President to submit a budget to Congress each year between the first Monday in January and the first Monday in February. The last president to submit a budget to Congress was George “W” Bush. This has nothing to do with the Constitution and I never said it did. Obama ignores what he doesn’t agree with or want to do- legal or otherwise.

southpaw

March 22nd, 2013
12:56 pm

Glad to help, Regnad. :-D

larry

March 22nd, 2013
12:56 pm

Gettttting back to the subject at hand , Both the state house and senate will not come to terms on any ethics legislation. Meaning that the most corrupt legislature in the most corrupt state in the land will happly keep the status quo.

I know the both parties do it arguement , but i dont remember Georgia being voted the most corrupt state in the U.S. under a democratic legislature and democratic governor.

JohnnyReb

March 22nd, 2013
12:57 pm

Ladies and Gentlemen, we have a new, all time winning most stupid post.

“Barack Obama is actually the ONLY major figure in Washington who genuinely seems to care about the budget deficit.”

This is why we can’t get anything done politically in this country. You can’t reason with stupid.

If I get time out for this, it will be worth it.

Doggone/GA

March 22nd, 2013
12:57 pm

“So, you refuse to answer the question”

Yep. Why should I deprive you of the opportunity to do some self-education?

DownInAlbany

March 22nd, 2013
12:58 pm

Welcome to the Occupation

March 22nd, 2013
12:46 pm

Barack Obama is actually the ONLY major figure in Washington who genuinely seems to care about the budget deficit.

I recommend this comment for the most asinine comment…of the century!

larry

March 22nd, 2013
12:59 pm

Oh yeah, what happened to the State Ethics Commission?

Didnt the Republican legislature vote to defund it right out of existance and replace it with something a lot weaker?

Yep. Thought so.

Doggone/GA

March 22nd, 2013
1:00 pm

“So, you support the current borrow and spend track we are on and believe it’s sustainable? You probably agreed when Obama called Bush unpatriotic”

those are YOUR words, not mine. don’t expect me to defend them

barking frog

March 22nd, 2013
1:02 pm

Ryan’s office says that Obama has missed the budget deadline more than any president since the 1920s. Obama’s first budget was delayed until May, while his second budget was delivered on time. The last two budgets were late but came in February.
http://thehill.com/blogs/on-the-money/budget/276969-obama-budget-delayed-again-white-house-tells-paul-ryan

Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes

March 22nd, 2013
1:02 pm

This is why we can’t get anything done politically in this country. You can’t reason with stupid.

I recommend this comment for the most asinine comment…of the century!

And there’s your signs.

DownInAlbany

March 22nd, 2013
1:05 pm

Doggone/GA

March 22nd, 2013
12:57 pm

The Budget Cycle

The President is required to submit to Congress a proposed budget by the first Monday in February. Although this budget does not have the force of law, it is a comprehensive examination of federal revenues and spending, including any initiatives recommended by the President, and is the start of extensive interaction with Congress.

Just for you doggone.

getalife

March 22nd, 2013
1:07 pm

I see the good ole boy network is still up and running.

Assign a drone to each pol and see if that helps.

Morality?

March 22nd, 2013
1:08 pm

Occupy – Obviously you are envious of the “1%” of which, ironically, Obama is now a member and you voted for him. No I’m not in the 1% but I am comfortable in knowing that if the gub’ment goes bust I won’t have to rely on the 1%’er you voted for to send me a stipend in the mail. I believe that if a person or their family honestly, through hard work, earned their money it is theirs and I don’t need the gub’ment to steal it from them to support me. That is the American dream. That is why people come to this country. They don’t com here because Obama thinks they are to stupid to look after themselves and he has to take care of them. I don’t mind helping people help themselves but they MUST make an effort if they want my money. Do you disagree?

getalife

March 22nd, 2013
1:11 pm

cons still think congress will pass a budget.

If you are looking for victims to scam, cons are an easy target.

Jack ®

March 22nd, 2013
1:13 pm

Posturing is what politicians do. Nothing new here.

Morality?

March 22nd, 2013
1:13 pm

“Obama is the only one actually concerned with the Fed debt”. Noooooooooooooo! Tell me you didn’t say that! I recommend that comment be MONITORED!

Doggone/GA

March 22nd, 2013
1:15 pm

“Just for you doggone”

Not for me, I already knew all that.

Morality?

March 22nd, 2013
1:16 pm

“So and so says we don’t have a Fed budget problem”. So you believe everything politicians say? Let me clue you in. Politician’s #1 priority is to tell you what you want to hear so they can get naive you to vote for them again. Politicians lie, steal, cheat. that’s part of their job description.

getalife

March 22nd, 2013
1:16 pm

Israel apologizes to Turkey for that flotilla disaster thanks to our President.

Stocks continue to break records.

It is great to have a competent President and I will never tire of slow news days.

Morality?

March 22nd, 2013
1:17 pm

GONE TODAY – HERE TOMORROW

DownInAlbany

March 22nd, 2013
1:18 pm

Doggone/GA

March 22nd, 2013
1:15 pm

And yet, you want to stick to your earlier comment?

And you have been told a MILLION times…the President is NOT RESPONSIBLE for spending. Allocation and spending are the responsibllity of CONGRESS. Read the damn constitution, why don’t you?

Doggone/GA

March 22nd, 2013
1:19 pm

“And yet, you want to stick to your earlier comment?”

Yep, you didn’t post anything that contradicted that.

barking frog

March 22nd, 2013
1:20 pm

Morality?
Politicians lie, steal, cheat. that’s part of their job description.
…………………………………………………………………………………….
What do you propose to replace them ? Shouldn’t we change
the job description as this is a government of the people, by the
people and for the people?

Logical Dude

March 22nd, 2013
1:22 pm

feels like a slow blog day. Is everyone watching basketball or something?

n

March 22nd, 2013
1:22 pm

I also believe wholeheartedly that GA legislators should be paid commensurate with their responsibilities. They should be making at least $50,000-$90,000 per year according to their tenure & position. I am not a legislator, nor have I been one; but fair is fair, and their current ridiculously low salaries do nothing but create in their minds the desire for and entitlement to any perqs they can glean from any source-legit or not. It is simply human nature.

stands for decibels

March 22nd, 2013
1:24 pm

They should be making at least $50,000-$90,000 per year according to their tenure & position. I am not a legislator, nor have I been one; but fair is fair, and their current ridiculously low salaries do nothing but create in their minds the desire for and entitlement to any perqs they can glean from any source-legit or not. It is simply human nature.

Agreed (obviously, given what I posted earlier); in the meantime, we’re definitely getting what we pay for.

getalife

March 22nd, 2013
1:24 pm

No drama Obama is to blame for slow news days.

stands for decibels

March 22nd, 2013
1:27 pm

more to the point, the current low salaries ($17K!) mean that only people who can AFFORD to do this gig, bother to do it.

That’s nuts. That’s no way to run a state.

But, here in the USA, as I’ve said time and time again, we always manage to do things the hard way, it seems.

barking frog

March 22nd, 2013
1:28 pm

getalife
the Prez doesn’t even stir up a fuss in the middle east.

barking frog

March 22nd, 2013
1:30 pm

How about we reduce the salaries of Georgia legislators
and maybe they will quit.

southpaw

March 22nd, 2013
1:35 pm

n & sfd:
The desire for perqs isn’t necessarily due to the low salary. Federal legislators (as opposed to state) make, what, twice what you’re suggesting? Higher salary isn’t stopping them from going after extra goodies as well. We may be getting what we pay for now, but don’t count on getting our money’s worth if legislators’ salaries go up.

getalife

March 22nd, 2013
1:37 pm

You can try term limits to force them to quit.

Our President announced another 200 million for Jordon to help Syrian refugees.

Welcome to the Occupation

March 22nd, 2013
1:37 pm

DownInAlbany: “Barack Obama is actually the ONLY major figure in Washington who genuinely seems to care about the budget deficit.

I recommend this comment for the most asinine comment…of the century!”

Lol. No my friend, it’s you who are suffering from a case of blithering idiocy, induced by a steady diet of Beltway media pseudo-analysis and propaganda distributed by billionaires like Pete Peterson and his gang, with his willing accomplices in the media and in both political parties.

The only reason you care about the budget deficit is not that it’s a good idea, but because you have been instructed to do so, and you’ve dutifully done as you’ve been instructed and you’re now upset about it.

Understanding what ideological mystification is, where it comes from, and then trying to disentangle yourself from it apparently goes beyond your capacities.

getalife

March 22nd, 2013
1:39 pm

460,000 Syrian refugees in Jordon.

Keyser Soze

March 22nd, 2013
1:40 pm

When is Jay’s ‘Ben Carson is bad’ article coming out?

DownInAlbany

March 22nd, 2013
1:40 pm

Welcome to the Occupation

March 22nd, 2013
1:37 pm

Thanks for the analysis. At least now I know what I suffer from. But, of course, you can remain in your state of denial.

getalife

March 22nd, 2013
1:40 pm

alex

March 22nd, 2013
1:43 pm

@ Larry, is the Ga. leg more corrupt than illinois or up to a point does it matter who is worse and how is this measured and who measures it , what is the standard deviation of the corruption measure or the variance or does any of you have any basis in fact with the claims of “more” or “most” or ” worse” What would Nate Silver say and would (could) you understand him or do you care to be accurate or is this all about getting mad at something your not a part of and is this about anger at being left out and should you really be seeing your therapist instead of being on the computer and should I be seeing mine for thinking rationally and expecting the same on this blog…….

getalife

March 22nd, 2013
1:45 pm

I am not sure if the way Texas meets with their State legislator is a bad idea.

stands for decibels

March 22nd, 2013
1:45 pm

The desire for perqs isn’t necessarily due to the low salary. Federal legislators (as opposed to state) make, what, twice what you’re suggesting? Higher salary isn’t stopping them from going after extra goodies as well.

Fair point, but just so it is clear–I’m not saying that bumping up salaries to something reasonable (I’d make it more than the 90K suggested for state legislators if I had my druthers) will automatically make people less corruptable. It won’t. However, it will ensure that people who would like to run for state legislative office will be able to do so without, basically, impoverishing themselves. It will ensure that more people who might be inclined to represent us are, literally, able to.

Pretty small price to pay for that benefit, I think.

skydog

March 22nd, 2013
1:45 pm

CHICKEN RAID!

Saturday and Sunday at the Northside Tavern. 4 PM until…. all the chickens are caught.

This guy is playing there tonite and Sat./Sun. along with many others.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I8C0JOm6RXc

If you have a teen or young adult wanting to learn an instrument, Joe Jones will have his all-star youth band playing. Talk to Joe, he will have your young one jamming in months.

Peadawg

March 22nd, 2013
1:45 pm

“You can try term limits to force them to quit.”

But…but…but…elections!!!

:roll:

Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes

March 22nd, 2013
1:45 pm

is the Ga. leg more corrupt than illinois or up to a point does it matter who is worse and how is this measured and who measures it…

Of course it matters.

Sport.

I don’t live in Illinois.

Welcome to the Occupation

March 22nd, 2013
1:47 pm

DownInAlbany: “Thanks for the analysis. At least now I know what I suffer from. But, of course, you can remain in your state of denial.”

No attempt to explain why you’re letting billionaires who don’t have your interests or the best interests of the nation at heart guide your thinking about how the country’s future policy should be decided?

Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes

March 22nd, 2013
1:50 pm

Soon to be seen drudgey spam

Biden’s One-Night Paris Hotel Tab: $585,000.50…
$459,388.65 Hotel Bill in London…

Regnad Kcin

March 22nd, 2013
1:50 pm

“What would Nate Silver say and would (could) you understand him or do you care to be accurate or is this all about getting mad at something your not a part of and is this about anger at being left out and should you really be seeing your therapist instead of being on the computer and should I be seeing mine for thinking rationally and expecting the same on this blog…….”

So many things to wonder…

td

March 22nd, 2013
1:55 pm

he Rev. Jesse Jackson called for a mass, nonviolent protest in Detroit against the new emergency financial manager at a rally this morning at city hall.

The activists alongside Jackson pledged to file a lawsuit next week challenging the constitutionality of Michigan’s new emergency manager law, which takes effect Thursday and grants broad powers to the incoming EFM, Kevyn Orr.

Jackson, who was joined by Detroit Councilwoman JoAnn Watson and Congressman John Conyers, also called on the U.S. Department of Justice to intervene to protect Detroiters’ right to vote.

“Detroit cannot be reduced to a rummage sale,” Jackson said.

http://www.freep.com/article/20130322/NEWS01/130322040/Jesse-Jackson-calls-mass-protest-against-Detroit-s-emergency-financial-manager-

This is what happens Jesse when progressives run any part of government for too long. The city is bankrupt you sell off the assets to pay the creditors.

Good lesson to learn for the nation. We will be selling off Yellowstone and the Grand canyon one day if progressives stay in charge of things.

southpaw

March 22nd, 2013
1:56 pm

dB@1:45
Higher salaries will help the incumbents run for RE-election without impoverishing themselves, but won’t help anybody not currently in office to run. The goal you describe might be better served with a state version of the Presidential Election Campaign Fund. I’ll agree with you that actual REPRESENTATIVES are pretty hard to find, though. Good point on your part.

curious

March 22nd, 2013
1:56 pm

Do we have any data on how people have changed their position on any topic dicussed on this blog?

So many intelligent postings, the number must be in the thousands.

getalife

March 22nd, 2013
1:56 pm

Our President talking about Syria was very informative.

We will help them but not militarily.

It will be broken for a long time after assad is killed.

Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes

March 22nd, 2013
1:56 pm

SHOWDOWN: Jesse Jackson Calls for Mass Protest Against Detroit’s Emergency Financial Manager…

More drudgey spam

JohnnyReb

March 22nd, 2013
1:57 pm

getalife – you are so blind when it comes to Obama, please tell us, do you think Obama’s lead from Behind startegoes have had anything to do with the 460,000 Syrian refugees and thousands killed? I mean after all, when he does finally do something there will be less to cheer him. I’m surprised that hasn’t bothered him.

getalife

March 22nd, 2013
1:57 pm

curious,

Yes, many Americans are leaving the gop in droves and the proof is the last election.

td

March 22nd, 2013
1:58 pm

Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes

March 22nd, 2013
1:45 pm

is the Ga. leg more corrupt than illinois or up to a point does it matter who is worse and how is this measured and who measures it…

Of course it matters.

Sport.

I don’t live in Illinois.

You would fit in perfectly there and would not have anything to whine about since “your people” would be running everything. It is not going to hurt our feeling if you decided to go somewhere that would make you happy.

Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes

March 22nd, 2013
1:59 pm

It is not going to hurt our feeling if you decided to go somewhere that would make you happy.

I was born on Peachtree St.

Sport.

JohnnyReb

March 22nd, 2013
1:59 pm

We can always count on Rev. Jackson to stir the stink pot.

Regnad Kcin

March 22nd, 2013
1:59 pm

“Do we have any data on how people have changed their position on any topic dicussed on this blog?

So many intelligent postings, the number must be in the thousands.”

Yeah, but it’s just one guy, flopping like a metronome… :)

getalife

March 22nd, 2013
1:59 pm

reb,

If you listen to him you would not ask stupid questions.

Read the transcript of his words today and get back to me when you are more informed.

Thanks.

td

March 22nd, 2013
2:01 pm

Welcome to the Occupation

March 22nd, 2013
1:47 pm

DownInAlbany: “Thanks for the analysis. At least now I know what I suffer from. But, of course, you can remain in your state of denial.”

No attempt to explain why you’re letting billionaires who don’t have your interests or the best interests of the nation at heart guide your thinking about how the country’s future policy should be decided?

Listening to people that have proved to be successful makes a great deal more common sense then listening to egg heads in their protected Ivory towers that have proven nothing or listening to welfare recipients that have proven to be a failure.

Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes

March 22nd, 2013
2:02 pm

Obama in Israel SHEETZ!

JohnnyReb

March 22nd, 2013
2:03 pm

getalife – your’e hopeless. Obama’s plan for Syria is to let most of them die while he trys to look all cool and in-charge. Oh, oh, I can’t forge the raised chin arrogant look while doing so. The only people impressed with that are like you. Certainly not the Syrians dying everyday.

td

March 22nd, 2013
2:03 pm

Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes

March 22nd, 2013
1:59 pm

It is not going to hurt our feeling if you decided to go somewhere that would make you happy.

I was born on Peachtree St.

Sport.

So? I was born in Marietta and I am happy with the current state of politics in Georgia. I plan on moving to Florida when I retire so I no longer have to pay state income taxes and because it is warmer.

DownInAlbany

March 22nd, 2013
2:04 pm

Welcome to the Occupation

March 22nd, 2013
1:47 pm

DownInAlbany: “Thanks for the analysis. At least now I know what I suffer from. But, of course, you can remain in your state of denial.”

No attempt to explain why you’re letting billionaires who don’t have your interests or the best interests of the nation at heart guide your thinking about how the country’s future policy should be decided?

Or I could depend on Obama, you know, the one that has never so much as run a lemonade stand?

Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes

March 22nd, 2013
2:07 pm

I plan on moving to Florida…

Don’t let the door hit your ass on the way out.

Sport.

Regnad Kcin

March 22nd, 2013
2:08 pm

“Obama’s plan for Syria is to let most of them die while he trys to look all cool and in-charge. Oh, oh, I can’t forge the raised chin arrogant look while doing so. The only people impressed with that are like you. Certainly not the Syrians dying everyday”

Miss the Iraq war already, do you?

Regnad Kcin

March 22nd, 2013
2:09 pm

“Or I could depend on Obama, you know, the one that has never so much as run a lemonade stand?’

When choosing a presidential candidate, a good conservative first determine whether the candidate has ever run a lemonade stand, because that’s the most important thing.

stands for decibels

March 22nd, 2013
2:10 pm

skydog, sounds like fun. Can’t quite make out what kind of semi-hollow body guitar is that he’s playin’, any idea?

Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes

March 22nd, 2013
2:11 pm

When choosing a presidential candidate, a good conservative first determine whether the candidate has ever run a lemonade stand, because that’s the most important thing.

When life gives you smoking guns and mushroom clouds, make lemonade.

Or something along those lines.

stands for decibels

March 22nd, 2013
2:11 pm

awcrap, dead threaded for the holy land.

Welcome to the Occupation

March 22nd, 2013
2:15 pm

td: “I don’t live in Illinois.

You would fit in perfectly there and would not have anything to whine about since “your people” would be running everything”

Wow. Do you view absolutely EVERYTHING through the prism of party? Weird.

I’m a Marxist and even I don’t view the difference between living in different states like Georgia and Illinois as being all that drastically different. For one thing, Illinois has the vast conservative hinterlands and down-state, and Georgia has Atlanta.

But of all things, why would you base everything on party?

nate Silver

March 22nd, 2013
2:15 pm

Jay would you PLEASE explain Alex’s statement regarding the standard deviation of the measure of “worse” ? Steppes on peachtree st., where, where….,Good old Crawford Long,

Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes

March 22nd, 2013
2:17 pm

Steppes on peachtree st., where, where….

Brookwood, Brookwood.

DownInAlbany

March 22nd, 2013
2:18 pm

Regnad Kcin

March 22nd, 2013
2:09 pm

Apparently, that’s all it takes for the libs!

Erwin's cat

March 22nd, 2013
2:26 pm

.what is the standard deviation of the corruption measure or the variance …

what are the units of measure? why not a 3 sigma max?

Alex

March 22nd, 2013
2:36 pm

I’m a Marxist and I don’t view everything thru the prism of a party. YOU would enjoy” thinking, fast and slow”… I suspect you might think differenly about yourself, challenge you bias, read the book and THEN respond, not now, don’t be pithy….

Alex

March 22nd, 2013
2:38 pm

Is that MAD max ? or Maximus or just mus , mabye minimus…..shucks?

Vast Right Wing Conspiracy (aka "Knuckle-Dragger")

March 22nd, 2013
5:07 pm

How long did the democrats control the state legislature before the Republicans got it – over a hundred years, I believe. Why didn’t they pass some ethics reform? Answer – they would not have known what the phrase “ethics reform” meant.

Marvin

March 23rd, 2013
1:03 pm

“The voters of Georgia have made it clear that they are no longer willing to tolerate such lax laws or the political culture they create.”

As one gazes across today’s list of legislators, is it hard to posit that voters are even paying attention, much less making something clear.