Rand Paul rushes to lead immigration-reform parade

From Roll Call:

Sen. Rand Paul, R-Ky., is expected announce his support for comprehensive immigration reform and a path to citizenship in a speech Tuesday morning.

On the heels of the Republican National Committee’s post-election autopsy report, which encouraged Republicans to support broad immigration law changes, Paul is expected to say that party members need to embrace reform or deal with being out of political power for decades.

“Republicans need to become parents of a new future with Latino voters or we will need to resign ourselves to permanent minority status,” Paul said according to excerpts from the speech. “The Republican Party has insisted for years that we stand for freedom and family values. I am most proud of my party when it stands for both.”

“Republicans need to give birth to a new attitude toward immigrants, an attitude that sees immigrants as assets not liabilities,” Paul said.

Paul’s scheduled speech would come a day after release of a major report by the Republican National Committee urging GOP support of comprehensive immigration reform as necessary to save the party. Like Hillary Clinton’s statement this week endorsing gay marriage, Paul’s announcement can also be seen as a preparatory move for the 2016 presidential race. The Kentucky senator sees where the parade is headed, and he wants to be seen as leading it, rather than bringing up the rear.

Four of Paul’s fellow Republican senators — John McCain, Lindsey Graham, Jeff Flake of Arizona and Marco Rubio, a likely 2016 opponent — have been meeting in private for weeks with four Democratic counterparts, trying to negotiate an immigration package that is almost certain to include a path to citizenship. A deal is expected to be announced in early April, and it is likely to be approved in the Senate. Given the environment, it is hard to believe that GOP senators could successfully filibuster the bill.

The House is where things get interesting.

House Speaker John Boehner has been playing coy on the issue. Last month, when asked whether he would be willing to support a path to citizenship, Boehner replied, “How about a little foreplay first?”, which is an interesting way to put it. The speaker apparently wants to be wooed, and wooed he will be.

In the end, however, he will have little choice but to allow the measure to come to the House floor, where an awful lot of his fellow Republicans will speak and vote against it. For example, I would be surprised if any Georgia Republican votes in favor of the bill. This is, after all, a state where anti-immigrant sentiment is strong enough that the likes of Phil Kent can be appointed to oversee immigration enforcement.

The question is whether enough House Republicans — concerned about their own political futures, the future of their party or, let us hope, the future of their country — will end up joining House Democrats in voting to support the bill. I suspect that in the end a bare minimum will do so, and we’ll be able to put this behind us.

But for the party base, this is not going to be an easy one to swallow.

– Jay Bookman

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Ronald Reagan Parkway

March 19th, 2013
8:08 am

Saying one thing to get votes then doing something completely different is their motto. Action speaks louder than words.

Ray Charles en Espanol

March 19th, 2013
8:11 am

Keep Up the Good Fight!

March 19th, 2013
8:12 am

It would be nice to see the lockstep of the House Republicans continue to falter so that real compromises can be made to govern. Immigration reform is long overdue.

Peadawg

March 19th, 2013
8:13 am

“Rand Paul rushes to lead immigration-reform parade”

Liberals flipping to support gay marriage and Republicans flipping to support immigration reform. All just to get votes.

Politics as usual…move along. Nothing to see here.

stands for decibels

March 19th, 2013
8:13 am

But for the party base, this is not going to be an easy one to swallow.

ha ha ha. You make the funny. Is funny!

That base will do as they’re damn well told, fercryinoutloud. If the plutocrats decide that it’s time to pivot and love on some Messicans, the base will be be claiming they loved Messicans all along. It’s how they roll.

(see also how I’ve been saying for ages now that in ten-twenty years they’ll all lie about how they had supported marriage equality and marched in the streets with the gays. This will be even easier for them.)

Brosephus™

March 19th, 2013
8:24 am

The question is whether enough House Republicans — concerned about their own political futures, the future of their party or, let us hope, the future of their country — will end up joining House Democrats in voting to support the bill. I suspect that in the end a bare minimum will do so, and we’ll be able to put this behind us.

But for the party base, this is not going to be an easy one to swallow.

I don’t share your belief there, Ke-mo sah-bee. There are more House Republicans who represent homegenously safe districts where they don’t have to give a rat’s ass about immigration to wipe out any effect of those who really have to consider things.

As for the base, you need not look any further than your own blog for proof.

No one, and I mean no one should think Republicans will agree to a change that gives citizenship to illegals.

In one way, illegals have sealed their own fate in becoming citizens by voting overwhelmingly Democrat.

Simple match and logic shows that should 11 million illegals be given the right to vote, there goes the Republican party ever winning another POTUS election.

When the base thinks like that, the House GOP will NOT support any type of immigration reform that doesn’t talk of removing all 11 million from the US. Of course, nobody wants to discuss the cost of such an endeavor, but the emotional appeal of “deportation now, deportation tomorrow, deportation forever” far outweighs anything else.

Brosephus™

March 19th, 2013
8:25 am

Guess I should also give credit to that blue linked passage above…

JohnnyReb
March 18th, 2013
4:23 pm

stands for decibels

March 19th, 2013
8:26 am

See, Hispanics–conservative playaz likely tell themselves–should be easy to win over.

They’re mostly Catholic and we ALL KNOW that Catholics are totally pro-abortion-criminalization, so much so that they’ll stab their own working class in the back to vote for plutocratic a-holes who support grotesque antichoice legislation.

Doggone/GA

March 19th, 2013
8:31 am

“When the base thinks like that, the House GOP will NOT support any type of immigration reform that doesn’t talk of removing all 11 million from the US”

I would agree…except I don’t think you can take Johnny Reb as a representative example of “the base”

Jay

March 19th, 2013
8:33 am

Bro, once the bill gets to the House floor, they’ll only need 25 to 30 GOP votes, along with most of the Democrats, to get it passed. I think they’ll clear that very low hurdle.

If, that is, Boehner allows it to get to the floor in the first place. I think he will have to do so, but we shall see.

JohnnyReb

March 19th, 2013
8:34 am

Brosephus – I do think there is a chance of, as Jay writes, putting this behind us. However, there will have to be iron-clad promises on border security so that the strength of the magnet can be mitigated, and those illegals already here go at the end of the line for becoming citizens.

If there is a push for an expedited path to citizenship it could scuttle the whole thing. We may be stupid, but not yet suicidal.

Stevie Ray

March 19th, 2013
8:34 am

JAY

What other choice is remotely practical? All this hand jive about self deportation, paying re-entry fee, and whatever is complete fantasy land….Bush’s idea was near the top of historically dumb ideas…

Practicality in DC is sorely lacking, wouldn’t you agree?

Stevie Ray

March 19th, 2013
8:37 am

Peadawg

March 19th, 2013
8:13 am

Are you suggesting that becoming more in tune with voters is not allowed? Neither party has a corner on the flip flop issue and at times, it is just catering to the needs of all of us…

What a crock of sh$t…it is for votes…

Peadawg

March 19th, 2013
8:38 am

“If, that is, Boehner allows it to get to the floor in the first place.”

Let’s hope he’s not like Reid over in the Senate…

Brosephus™

March 19th, 2013
8:38 am

Doggone

I meant him as one of many who think that way. You can look all across the internet and see the same thing worded in many different ways. It doesn’t matter whether it’s here, at RedState, Free Republic, or any other blog.

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Jay

You’re way more optimistic than me. I see this as one of those “toe the line” votes, and anything that remotely resembles a pathway to citizenship will face Cat 5 headwinds in even getting to a vote. Boehner’s gonna protect his position more than anything else. I don’t think he’s going to self abdicate his position.

stands for decibels

March 19th, 2013
8:39 am

it is for votes…

Is that a bad thing?

Peadawg

March 19th, 2013
8:42 am

“Are you suggesting that becoming more in tune with voters is not allowed?”

No.

Easy answer to easy questions.

stands for decibels

March 19th, 2013
8:43 am

You folks do remember that Sean Hannity flipped on this, what was it, the day after the election in 2012?

I think it’s safer for elected Teaper types to say they are ok with this stuff than many of y’all seem to think. As for the positioning of the Boehner, well, that’s why he gets the big bucks, and if he has to invoke “what Hastert rule?” for this vote he will.

bookman parrot

March 19th, 2013
8:43 am

hey jay, i think Democrats have plenty to become finally concerned with … like real fiscal and individual responsibility, but they are too worried about playing politics, bringing illegals into the fold, and kissing the backsides of all their “base” groups.

Joe Hussein Mama

March 19th, 2013
8:43 am

Please never use the words “Boehner” and “foreplay” in the same sentence ever again.

Peadawg

March 19th, 2013
8:44 am

“Please never use the words “Boehner” and “foreplay” in the same sentence ever again.”

Please grow up.

Stevie Ray

March 19th, 2013
8:45 am

stands for decibels

March 19th, 2013
8:39 am

It’s not if they follow thru on commitments….given the sheer volume of promises that are made, very few are acted on..

Brosephus™

March 19th, 2013
8:46 am

JReb: However, there will have to be iron-clad promises on border security so that the strength of the magnet can be mitigated, and those illegals already here go at the end of the line for becoming citizens.

I doubt there will ever be any agreement on border security, and I speak as one who works in that area. As long as America remains a good place to live and work, we’re going to have immigration problems. That’s one of the effects of having such an open society. To effect border security to the satisfaction of some of those who want tighter security, we’re either going to have to institute East Germany type authoritarian policies OR we’ll have to become a 3rd World country where nobody wants to live. Simply being the “land of opportunity” is a magnet that you can’t cover, conceal, or diminish by any type of legislation alone.

The “line” will not change either. As it currently stands, US citizens get preferential treatment when it comes to immigrant processing. Do you honestly think that Americans will agree to making their spouse go to the end of the line and wait behind a non-citizen’s immigrant application? Citizens whine if they have to wait more than 5 minutes in line for immigration processing to enter the country. If it’s not instant satisfaction, it’s not going to get by Congress because of the potential for constituents calls and potentially losing re-election.

clem

March 19th, 2013
8:46 am

he has the haircut for it

bookman parrot

March 19th, 2013
8:47 am

jay and the dems like to speak of immigration reform… but it is really a call for amnesty/pardon… as we already have a legal path to citizenship for immigrants that has been around along time and a huge number of people actually followed the rules … but dems don’t like rules, when it gets in the way of obtaining new voters

stands for decibels

March 19th, 2013
8:47 am

Last month, when asked whether he would be willing to support a path to citizenship, Boehner replied, “How about a little foreplay first?”, which is an interesting way to put it. The speaker apparently wants to be wooed, and wooed he will be.

I totally scanned that as “wooded”.

Please grow up.

Sorry, PD

F. Sinkwich

March 19th, 2013
8:47 am

““Republicans need to give birth to a new attitude toward immigrants, an attitude that sees immigrants as assets not liabilities,” Paul said.”

What a crock. Name names, Senator.

Here I thought he was a pretty smart guy….

Peadawg

March 19th, 2013
8:48 am

“It’s not if they follow thru on commitments”

That’s why I’m skeptical. I’ll believe it when I see it.

by golly

March 19th, 2013
8:48 am

Boehner=Tang. What we call him in our house

Joe Hussein Mama

March 19th, 2013
8:48 am

Peadawg — “Please grow up.”

Meh. (shrugs)

Mike

March 19th, 2013
8:48 am

At least they are trying. Let’s see how this plays out. I have faith the republicans and democrats will work through this and come to some reasonable solution. And, just to make sure they know how I feel, I am contacting both my senators. Let’s get this done boys and girls.

Joe Hussein Mama

March 19th, 2013
8:54 am

F. Sinkiewicz — “What a crock. Name names, Senator.”

Should be pretty easy to see which Republicans assert that undocumented aliens don’t pay any taxes and eagerly gobble up Federal and state benefits, Champ. After all, we certainly have our fair share even here.

Escaped from Email Purgatory

March 19th, 2013
8:55 am

Bookman, can you even bring yourself to utter the honest moniker for Phil Kent’s position? His is a stance that’s against illegal immigration. Say it with me: illegal immigration. Nobody’s anti legal immigration.

Reasonable folks can debate the plan to address the 12 million illegal immigrants currently in our country. At this stage, all but the truest of the true believers will probably cede to pragmatism.

That’s a smart move.

You never stop with the partisan hyperbole. I don’t think you can help yourself.

And using the words Boehner and foreplay in the same sentence was wrong, dude.

It was just wrong.

williebkind

March 19th, 2013
8:55 am

Well, we learned over the week end that government can come into your bank and tax your savings, AGAIN. They may need to since liberals have redefined the word illegal to citizen. Some how we will have to pay for their housing, food stamps, healthcare, and legal fees resulting from drunk and driving. We can all sign onto this if we REALLY secure the border. This would increase the democratic plantation exponentially. There goes the english language. Oh How do you say gay or homosexual in spanish.

Thomas Heyward Jr

March 19th, 2013
8:56 am

“Republicans need to become parents of a new future with Latino voters or we will need to resign ourselves to permanent minority status,” Paul said ”
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Parents?
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That ought to appeal to the progs and statists among us.
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Who’s your daddy?
Why its Uncle Sam……………..
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lol

stands for decibels

March 19th, 2013
8:56 am

Hey Bros, if you get time between molesting people for the TSA [ha ha] – left you a reply about Maher downstairs, don’t know if you saw it, just wrapping up a dumb discussion, was all.

TiredOfIt

March 19th, 2013
8:57 am

“Republicans need to become parents of a new future with Latino voters ” Parents, sounds like a nanny state and from the GOP?

Jeffrey

March 19th, 2013
8:58 am

Phil kent? Seriously? Jay can you do a blog on him or is that unprofessional because he used to be an opinion writer? Does he still rep the payday loans guys?

Well...

March 19th, 2013
8:58 am

…somebody has to take the lead since Obuma won’t…

Jeffrey

March 19th, 2013
8:59 am

Apparently you did 2011. I’ll read it.

Brosephus™

March 19th, 2013
9:01 am

dB

:lol: :lol: :lol:

I saw it. I don’t really know enough about Maher to form an opinion of him. I simply turn the channel if I see him on. Like you, I don’t have HBO either. I didn’t know the info on his viewership numbers either. If I put his numbers into Rep. Ryan’s calculator, it seems that he and Rush are about equal in the number of listeners. :)

indigo

March 19th, 2013
9:02 am

jconservative

March 19th, 2013
9:02 am

And then this to ponder:

“Stephen Goss, chief actuary of the Social Security Administration estimates that 3.1 million illegal workers pay into Social Security each year. In 2010, undocumented workers and their employers paid $15 billion to Social Security with no intention of ever collecting benefits — “

F. Sinkwich

March 19th, 2013
9:02 am

Joey doesn’t read so good…..

Poor Joey.

hamiltonAZ

March 19th, 2013
9:03 am

It is likely that Paul will be in the news for sometime as a potential ‘16 candidate. But unless Paul get handlers that can whitewash the things he’s said in the past and keep him from bloviating going forward, he’ll be like Bachmann, Cain and Perry in ‘12 — flavor du jour.

Fred ™

March 19th, 2013
9:04 am

Well first the talk show idiots were applauding hispanics for being hard working and risking life and limb to travel 1000’s of miles to do the jobs that “those people” were too lazy to ride Marta to do and to work for cheap (while putting 10’s of 1,000’s of Americans for work.

Then when they discovered tyhey could ship jobs to China for even cheaper slave labor they began a concerted campaign to demonize the illegals and add them to the “rhose people ” list. Just read Johnny Reb’s comments.

So is their listenership so stupid that NOW they are going to embrace “those people’ as brothers now, give them a path to citizenship while sitting on a circle singing Kumbaya because of a THIRD reversal of course?

I’m thinking yeah. By July JohnnyReb, Scout, Kayaker, and the rest will be singing the praises of their new brown brothers………. all because FOX and Rush will be doing so……….

Granny Godzilla

March 19th, 2013
9:06 am

“Boehner replied, “How about a little foreplay first?””

Seriously, does that imply he expects to get “screwed”?

How? I wonder.

Thomas Heyward Jr

March 19th, 2013
9:06 am

TiredOfIt

March 19th, 2013
8:57 am

“Republicans need to become parents of a new future with Latino voters ” Parents, sounds like a nanny state and from the GOP?
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You hear correctly.
It’s all part of the GOP trying to emulate the DNC which will get us……………………………a nationwide…………..Detroit.
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But…………that’s the way Obama and our Federal overseers…….like it.
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Dependent.

godless heathen - owner of many things he does not need

March 19th, 2013
9:06 am

Fred: I’m in the pool.

gadem also known as Benghazi

March 19th, 2013
9:08 am

What they don’t realize is that they can say what they want to say publicly, but the electorate that identify themselves as red state Republicans will never accept the changes. They have engrained the hatred into their psyche to the point that only a lobotomy can cure it. The “NEW” Republican party is what was created through racism, sexism, xenophobia, homophobia and arrogance. Be happy with what you created!

JamVet

March 19th, 2013
9:09 am

Well, well,well. The Purity Tested cons are starting to cave.

Going after the brown vote?! This could spell the end! If they get below 89% white, they’ll no longer be……………… pure.

What next? They move out of 1953 and all the way up to 1963?

Rock on!

JamVet

March 19th, 2013
9:11 am

Scratch It

March 19th, 2013
9:12 am

I’m wondering when the dems will get on board with Paul & Rubio? The new face’s of immigration.

GT

March 19th, 2013
9:12 am

Republican constantly placed their bets on the shallowness of the American public. The same DNA that ran slave auctions, treat woman like illegal immigrates and wanted to put walls and machine guns at the border play the card that the American voter is stupid and shallow and will forget who they are.

This same party would have us one heart beat away from Sarah Palin as president because they think that is what American womanhood looks like. Or maybe they wanted another Bush as a straw man or woman president so the Chaney and Gingrich types could have power without a mandate, leave the mess they still won’t claim today. Don’t read their lips look at who is sitting at their table and figure out where you fit in.

stands for decibels

March 19th, 2013
9:14 am

And using the words Boehner and foreplay in the same sentence was wrong, dude.

erm, you do know it was the Speaker himself who used the “f” word, yes?

Was Jay supposed to identify him as “the ‘b’ word”? (not that I haven’t a few times in the past, myself.)

Soothsayer

March 19th, 2013
9:14 am

As I have said many times before with respect to this issue, it is largely Right-Wing business owners who provided the jobs (and the draw) to these illegal immigrants. Yet, it is these same Right-Wingers who scream and howl about illegal immigrants.

And so, now, after getting whupped 2 times in a row, they’re all of sudden getting “religion?” It’s just representative of who the Republicans and Tea Party really are. They’re “for” it when it benefits them (low-wage workers) but against it when it costs them (increased medical insurance costs, social costs, taxes).

It’s one thing to be a hypocrite, it’s entirely another to make faux changes to try to woo voters. The Republicans have “made their bed” and now they have to lie in it. There aren’t going to be any “quick fixes.”

Scratch It

March 19th, 2013
9:14 am

Dems should be ashamed. They have been touting immigration reform for years and have done nothing. Even when they had complete control of Congress. Hopefully Hispanics will realize how the dem party has taken advantage of them year after year.

Thomas Heyward Jr

March 19th, 2013
9:15 am

Brosephus™

March 19th, 2013
8:46 am

I doubt there will ever be any agreement on border security, and I speak as one who works in that area.
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Not unlike the SEC personnel downloading midget porn during the financial meltdown and the Interior department personnel doing the same during the last great Horizon oil well spill………….maybe the Border Security personnel should spend less time on the inner-tubes.
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just a thought.
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lol

stands for decibels

March 19th, 2013
9:16 am

he’ll be like Bachmann, Cain and Perry in ‘12 — flavor du jour.

Not a terrible career move. Those guys are all doing ok aren’t they?

Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes

March 19th, 2013
9:17 am

Granny Godzilla

March 19th, 2013
9:18 am

Scratch It

March 19th, 2013
9:12 am

I’m wondering when the dems will get on board with Paul & Rubio? The new face’s of immigration.
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Whatever makes you think they aren’t all on the same ship right now?

AS I remember it the democrats have been calling for comprehensive immigration reform for quite a while.

In fact, it was a campaign issue for them in 2008 and 2012.

So the question is, why are Rand and Rubio just now hailing the ship to board?

ATL Tiger

March 19th, 2013
9:18 am

What about this radical idea, vote for what your constituency wants.

k

March 19th, 2013
9:18 am

Give us your poor, your huddled masses yearning to be free. Let us open the door for immigation, share the bounty of the North American continent with those unhappy, disenfrachised, poor of spirit.
Our limitless assets are for all to share. What an opportunity, and above all give them their right to vote as soon as possible.
Now, they will pay taxes and reduce the national deficit, contribute to health care, the wellfare system, and reduce the #s in the criminal justice system.
I honestly thought of the enormous number of illegal aliens filtering into the country as a liablity, now I make a 180 degree turn.

Fred ™

March 19th, 2013
9:18 am

godless: Just so you know, back in the day I beat DonkeyKong like a drum…………

http://www.smashing.com/donkeykong/

Prisoner-of-Christ

March 19th, 2013
9:19 am

Finally!…….wake-up America!….we are going to need these people more than we can ever imagine to get this country back on track. Every great financial mind, estimated, a surplus over the next decade, if we take them out of the shadows……..

“Comprehensive Immigration” for the 21st century is both necessary for our security & economy……

………………………………We Are Nation of Laws…….We Are a Nation of Immigrants…………………………………..

This bold and just announcement by Senator Rand Paul…… like father like son……this tide might sweep Republicans straight into White House 2016…….Republicans will have a major accomplishment to campaign on.

Granny Godzilla

March 19th, 2013
9:20 am

Oh and SCRATCH IT, how long did the democrats have complete control of Congress?

Scratch It

March 19th, 2013
9:21 am

Granny Godzilla

I’m wondering when the dems will get on board with Paul & Rubio? The new face’s of immigration.
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Whatever makes you think they aren’t all on the same ship right now?

AS I remember it the democrats have been calling for comprehensive immigration reform for quite a while.

You hit the nail on the head. Calling for it. Talking about it and taking action as Paul & Rubio are about to do are two different things. Why didn’t dems act when they had the chance to pass whatever they wanted?

Scratch It

March 19th, 2013
9:22 am

Prisoner-of-Christ:

Great post!!!

Joe Hussein Mama

March 19th, 2013
9:22 am

F. Sinkiewicz — “Joey doesn’t read so good…..Poor Joey.”

Joey reads quite well. However, your grammar and instruction-following skills could use some work.

JohnnyReb

March 19th, 2013
9:23 am

Brosephus – the point I tried to make is, illegals in the shadows not be given an expedited path to citizenship. No changing of existing law where a spouse is given preferential treatment. It’s the math. Republicans won’t agree to mass citizenship without sufficient years of waiting so they can try to woo the hispanic vote.

Scratch It

March 19th, 2013
9:25 am

Granny Godzilla:

Oh and SCRATCH IT, how long did the democrats have complete control of Congress?

From 09′ – 10′. Remember when they forced through that unpopular partisan healthcare law?

Granny Godzilla

March 19th, 2013
9:29 am

Scratch it

AGain….

How long did the democrats have complete control of Congress?

ANd when?

And what can you extrapolate from those two peices of info?

GT

March 19th, 2013
9:29 am

The right think like religious monks cloistered away from society where their principles are not tested by the winds of reality yet still supported by the establishment more for the physical demonstration of chosen poverty than the substance. In other words if the Catholics really believed the life of a monk more would be monks, and if the right conservatives really believed in conservative lifestyle more would be skinny. They love to spout principle but the obvious lack of it. Not many fat Amish people. They are the real conservative.

Granny Godzilla

March 19th, 2013
9:29 am

Scratch it

“From 09′ – 10′.”

WRONG, tee hee hee

Try again.

Fred ™

March 19th, 2013
9:30 am

Remember when they forced through that unpopular partisan healthcare law?

It’s only unpopular to foxbot sheep and talk radio puppets.

Keep Up the Good Fight!

March 19th, 2013
9:34 am

Kam, of course Preibus is running away, Rush did not approve. :D

stands for decibels

March 19th, 2013
9:34 am

What about this radical idea, vote for what your constituency wants.

You mean a more steeply progressive income tax, stricter national gun regulations, single payer health insurance, legal access to first-trimester abortion, and any number of other things that a majority of Americans want but legislators continue to ignore?

weetamoe

March 19th, 2013
9:35 am

Rand Paul is a libertarian, as are many of us. I just think that in the matter of immigration we should make sure to attract more brain than brawn.

willie lynch

March 19th, 2013
9:35 am

It sounds as if the Republican plan consists of making a halfhearted effort at pretense in their new found love for Latino’s. They seem to believe that passing some type of immigration reform will automatically win them the Latino vote. The Latino community consists of Blacks, LGBT, Muslim etc., how do the Republicans plan to address these different constituencies within this community? The Latino community is not the saving grace of Republicans. What Republicans need is a true big tent message.

This Pappy O’Daniel embrace of the Latino community is not going to turn out as Republicans think it will. It’s hard to make people change their core beliefs and the anti anything but old white male mindset is going to carry the day for a long time in the GOP.

stands for decibels

March 19th, 2013
9:35 am

Preibus is running away, Rush did not approve.

Unpossible, Rush is not a party leader and actual elected officials have very seriously distanced themselves from this, this… guy who uses words that I would not use.

Scratch It

March 19th, 2013
9:35 am

Granny Godzilla:

Wow. just wow. I realize those on the left are dense but ignoring concrete facts makes you people look really dumb. Dems had the White House, House of Representatives, and Senate. How can you possibly deny that. And they did absolutely nothing with immigration reform…

Brosephus™

March 19th, 2013
9:37 am

JReb @ 9:23

I understand your point completely. However, if someone in the shadows marries a US citizen, then they go to the front of the line based on current law. That’s why I say that nothing’s going to change. What you’re suggesting the Republicans should and would not agree to is already in effect. Once that person receives a green card, they only have to maintain residence for 5 years before applying for citizenship.

Scratch It

March 19th, 2013
9:37 am

Fred ™:

It’s only unpopular to foxbot sheep and talk radio puppets.

I have yet to see a poll where its even remotely popular….

Fred ™

March 19th, 2013
9:39 am

I have yet to see a poll where its even remotely popular….

Turn your channel off of FOX.

JamVet

March 19th, 2013
9:39 am

So will Rand Paul’s rabidly racist buddies and colleagues all give him a wide berth now?

LOL…

Joe Hussein Mama

March 19th, 2013
9:40 am

Scratch It — “ignoring concrete facts makes you people look really dumb.”

What concrete facts you got there, Cowboy? :D

“Dems had the White House, House of Representatives, and Senate.”

Survey says . . . BZZZZZZZZZT!

Wrong answer! Try again! :D (giggling)

stands for decibels

March 19th, 2013
9:40 am

It sounds as if the Republican plan consists of making a halfhearted effort at pretense in their new found love for Latino’s. They seem to believe that passing some type of immigration reform will automatically win them the Latino vote.

to be fair, I don’t think they think that–they think that it will win more than enough of the Hispanic vote to make up for some disaffected Teapers whose blood presumably boils whenever they hear “Para Español, oprima numero dos…”

weetamoe

March 19th, 2013
9:40 am

*foxbot sheep and radio puppets*….. Feed those straw men to your cows. They are not as bloating as a glut of cheap meat from a used-to-be trendy restaurant.

Granny Godzilla

March 19th, 2013
9:41 am

Scratch It

March 19th, 2013
9:35 am

Granny Godzilla:

Wow. just wow. I realize those on the left are dense but ignoring concrete facts makes you people look really dumb. Dems had the White House, House of Representatives, and Senate. How can you possibly deny that. And they did absolutely nothing with immigration reform…
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So you don’t know?

That’s what you are admitting to this whole board?

That you really have no clue as to how long the Democrats had control of Congress and can’t even
manage the strength of character or intelectual curiosity to google it.

I’ll take your WOW and just WOW too….and then point and laugh.

Snicker.

Sock puppets apparently have only woolly fluff where others have a brain.

stands for decibels

March 19th, 2013
9:41 am

I have yet to see a poll where its even remotely popular….

Well, when the polling question is “Do you believe OSAMAKKKARE is good or bad?” yeah, it tends to have some rough sledding.

when you ask people if they want what’s been legislated… aw, why do I bother? you know all this already. I beed trolled…

Fred ™

March 19th, 2013
9:42 am

Ah thanks Weet for the stalking. Were you at the restaurant to take pics of me eating? Did you pay the waiter so you could lick my plate?

Joe Hussein Mama

March 19th, 2013
9:43 am

SfD — “to be fair, I don’t think they think that–they think that it will win more than enough of the Hispanic vote to make up for some disaffected Teapers”

I think you’re probably right. Then again, I suspect they have unrealistic expectations about how helpful it will actually turn out to be for them. One piece of legislation isn’t going to erase a generation or two worth of GOP slagging on Hispanics as a matter of course.

Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes

March 19th, 2013
9:44 am

Sock puppets apparently have only woolly fluff where others have a brain.

:lol: :lol: :lol:

joe

March 19th, 2013
9:44 am

Isn’t it funny, Bookman chooses this as his post today instead of the goings on in Cyprus. Did you libs see what they are doing there? Their federal government is seizing the monetary assets of their citizens. Why? To combat rising debt and to get a bailout from the EU.

And you continue to bury your head in the sand…look what Greece, Italy and now Cyprus are all going through. Do you see a common thread there? They are all socialist countries. Obama has us on the same path with entitlements and never ending spending. He claims we don’t have a spending problem…poppyc0ck!!

If you think for one minute this can’t happen here, you are even more dumb than the usual Democratic voter.

Joe Hussein Mama

March 19th, 2013
9:44 am

Fred — “Did you pay the waiter so you could lick my plate?”

That sounds almost as nasty as “Boehner” + “foreplay.” :D

ITS ALL BUSH"S FAULT

March 19th, 2013
9:45 am

The GOP has gerrymandered themselves into irrelevance….LOSERS….

JamVet

March 19th, 2013
9:46 am

joe, were you also emotionally affected to the point of paranoia by the Domino Theory?

Keep Up the Good Fight!

March 19th, 2013
9:46 am

Stands, yep that’s what some of the uninformed claim. ;) Why next you’ll tell me that Faux is fair and balanced. ;)

Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes

March 19th, 2013
9:47 am

Isn’t it funny, Bookman chooses this as his post today instead of the goings on in Cyprus.

We were spammed all day yesterday with that bit of gooey, drudgey goodness.

Isn’t it funny that you have yet to visit blogspot.com and create your very own blog?

:lol: :lol: :lol: