Rand Paul offers proof that elections do change things

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THEN ….

“We’re the only country that I know that allows people to come in illegally, have a baby, and then that baby becomes a citizen. And I think that should stop.”

– Rand Paul in 2011, arguing in favor of a constitutional amendment that he co-sponsored ending “birthright citizenship” for children of illegal immigrants born in this country.

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AND NOW …

“On immigration, common sense and decency have been neglected for far too long. Let’s secure our borders, welcome our new neighbors, and practice the values of freedom and family for all to see… Republicans need to give birth to a new attitude toward immigrants, an attitude that sees immigrants as assets not liabilities.”

– Rand Paul, in a speech today to the Hispanic Chamber of Commerce

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THEN …

“I do agree with Milton Friedman: You can’t have open borders in a welfare state. We’ve got a pretty considerable welfare state. So it’s not just about normalizing the 11 or 12 million here, it’s whether or not, while you’re doing that, another 11 or 12 million come in, and I think that will bankrupt the country…. We cannot just be a beacon for people to come here to be on benefits. The other thing that I’ll insist on that if there is a process of normalization that it include no welfare.”

– Rand Paul, in an interview Jan. 30, 2013

AND NOW ….
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“Growing up in Texas I never met a Latino who wasn’t working…

America’s strength has always been that we are a melting pot with room for those who dare to dream. I’ve seen firsthand what it is like for new immigrants in Texas.

I’ve never met a new immigrant looking for a free lunch.”

– Rand Paul, today

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THEN ….
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“I support local solutions to illegal immigration as protected by the 10th amendment. I support making English the official language of all documents and contracts.”

– Rand Paul, in his 2010 Senate campaign

AND NOW ….
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“My great-grandfather came to America (from Germany) in the 1880s…. He survived and ultimately thrived in his new country with a new language. In their home and their church they spoke German. Republicans who criticize the use of two languages make a great mistake.”

– Rand Paul today

656 comments Add your comment

Normal, plain and simple

March 19th, 2013
2:39 pm

He speakth from both sides of his mouth…

RB from Gwinnett

March 19th, 2013
2:40 pm

I would caution the R’s to not get too excited about Harry dropping the assault weapons ban. Better keep an eye on what he’s doing with the other hand while he’s wringing the visible one with all the anti gun crowd.

Normal, plain and simple

March 19th, 2013
2:43 pm

Thomas

March 19th, 2013
2:45 pm

Silly blog- every politician does. Simple minded folks throw daggers at politicians they “hate” and laud those they love.

DOMA, DADT, etc.

Local articles Jay. You know it well and do a terrific job that unequivocally changes the city and state for the better. National you are simply another worthless speck.

getalife

March 19th, 2013
2:45 pm

Surrender gop.

Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes

March 19th, 2013
2:46 pm

National you are simply another worthless speck.

Ah, but he’s OUR worthless speck. :wink:

JKL2

March 19th, 2013
2:46 pm

Anchor babies need to go. Last I checked, we moved past slavery a few years back. No need for that relic of a law anymore.

Doggone/GA

March 19th, 2013
2:47 pm

“Anchor babies need to go”

already gone. There’s no such thing as an “anchor baby”

getalife

March 19th, 2013
2:47 pm

I told you her bill would not pass the Senate but better background checks, immigration reform and replace the sequester bills will pass.

JohnnyReb

March 19th, 2013
2:48 pm

Multiple Rand Paul pieces. Could this mean Jay will give Newt a break?

The problem for Rand is separating himself from his father. Not an easy or enviable task.

otherview

March 19th, 2013
2:49 pm

Is believing that a child who is born here of illegal parents shouldn’t automatically be a citizen really contradictory to valuing immigrants?

Steve

March 19th, 2013
2:49 pm

What’s funny is no of those statements are contradictory AT ALLl. I’ve followed Rand Paul for awhile He has the same philosophy around immigration as Milton Friedman. I read his speech from today. Nothing material has changed in his philosophy. Maybe his tone has changed???

It’s interesting how people choose to see what they want to see.

Matti

March 19th, 2013
2:50 pm

Rand Paul: Because constitutional amendments were never meant to be given equal weight.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SbnEy_U9pYk

(Once again with my apologies to Mr. Bookman.)

getalife

March 19th, 2013
2:50 pm

rand is the new gop leader.

This will be fun.

Doggone/GA

March 19th, 2013
2:52 pm

“What’s funny is no of those statements are contradictory AT ALLl”

Really, you REALLY can’t see any contradiction AT ALL in these:

“We cannot just be a beacon for people to come here to be on benefits. ”
“I’ve never met a new immigrant looking for a free lunch.”

Stevie Ray

March 19th, 2013
2:53 pm

JAY

Congratulations! You have unearthed another example of political about facing. Did you ever sit and notice how much of our lives are consumed trying to point out hypocrisy in others? It’s human and political nature. What politician can you unquestionably state has not changed positions on an issue, valid or not?

JamVet

March 19th, 2013
2:54 pm

JKL2, why do you hate the US Constitution so much?

Fourteenth Amendment to the US Constitution

Passed by Congress June 13, 1866. Ratified July 9, 1868.

Section 1. All persons born or naturalized in the United States and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.

Scratch It

March 19th, 2013
2:55 pm

Doggone/GA

March 19th, 2013
2:55 pm

“are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside.”

Didn’t someone say, yesterday, they were a citizens of the United States, NOT of the state of Georgia?

Logical Dude

March 19th, 2013
2:55 pm

” in a speech today to the Hispanic Chamber of Commerce”

Well, you tell people what they want to hear. Let’s see if he says the same thing to the “Republicans of SouthEast who really really really don’t want to hear Spanish”

Jerome Horwitz

March 19th, 2013
2:57 pm

I was for it before I was against it…………….

Steve

March 19th, 2013
2:57 pm

Doggone/GA-

No. There is no contradiction. A welfare state is incompatible with open borders. You can’t incentive people to come here and not work. Rand Paul is only saying people who are already here can stay on a work visa and not get deported. Illegal immigrants right now can’t participate in the welfare state and therefore must work.

No contradiction.

Stevie Ray

March 19th, 2013
2:58 pm

JAY

Another question. Why didn’t you pose an issue about immigration itself as opposed to one stooges contradictory actions (assuming they weren’t taken out of context…another journalism tactic)?

Immigration is much more interesting as a topic than discussing politcal hypocrisy wouldn’t you agree?

stands for decibels

March 19th, 2013
2:58 pm

Really, you REALLY can’t see any contradiction AT ALL

while I will admit that the first one might be a little bit of a stretch (and frankly excusable if one’s position has truly evolved), the next two are about as flippity-floppity as you can get without actually becoming Mitt Romney.

Redneck Convert (R--and proud of it)

March 19th, 2013
2:58 pm

Well, here we go again. In a little while people on here are going to say this Rand Paul is our next President, then they’ll have him beating the Democrat canadate by 15 points, then they’ll say we’re going to take the House and the Senate too.

They’ll be sky high till after election day 2016. That’s when they’ll find out this Rand Paul that seems to make the most sense spends his spare time talking to the birds, the squirrels, the rabbits. He’s a nut-case, I tell you. You ain’t going to get me bent over and rammed by the librul Democrats again.

Have a good p.m. everybody.

Doggone/GA

March 19th, 2013
2:59 pm

“A welfare state is incompatible with open borders. You can’t incentive people to come here and not work”

And do you have proof that people come here and go on “welfare” in any great numbers?

“No contradiction”

Yep, there is. Not my problem you refuse to see it.

Road Scholar

March 19th, 2013
2:59 pm

Jamvet: They only like and defend the constitution if they agree with their own interpretation!

Stevie Ray

March 19th, 2013
3:01 pm

GETALIFE

Shouldn’t you be focused on getting your rabbits back? Heartbreaking..please know that I’m thinking of you and those bunnies.

Fred ™

March 19th, 2013
3:02 pm

Can someone explain to me the difference between Mr. Paul changing positions on this and president Obama changing positions on gay marriage……. or what was that Stevie Ray posted yesterday?

Obama 2006: “The fact that we are here today to debate raising America’s debt limit is a sign of leadership failure. It is a sign that the U.S. Government can’t pay its own bills. It is a sign that we now depend on ongoing financial assistance from foreign countries to finance our Government’s reckless fiscal policies. … Increasing America’s debt weakens us domestically and internationally. Leadership means that “the buck stops here.”

And Obama now? Politicians say what they need to get elected or MAYBE (yes I know I’m being naive here) they learn they said something stupid and change positions based on REALITY.

I’ll give Mr. Rand all the consideration, courtesy, and BENEFIT OF THE DOUBT, as I gave Mr. Obama.

I’ll let you partisan haters fight of the difference of the word is. I have no interest. In some things, the means DOES justify the end and if Mr. Rand has a turn around, no matter why, that results in a GOOD outcome for our Country, I say great. Thank you Mr. Rand.

And so should you Jay. YOU are the one who taught me some optimism……..

Peadawg

March 19th, 2013
3:03 pm

“Surrender gop.”

Looks like Reid beat them to it.

Steve

March 19th, 2013
3:03 pm

Doggone/GA

“And do you have proof that people come here and go on “welfare” in any great numbers?”

Yes. Very basic econ. If you incentivize something you get more of it. If you incentivize people not to work you get more people not working. If people can come here and not work and make more than working in a sweatshop, then that’s what you will get.

“Yep, there is. Not my problem you refuse to see it.”

Not my problem if you are an economic illiterate.

DownInAlbany

March 19th, 2013
3:03 pm

Granny, in the Jay’s last diatribe regarding Paul, you said that the WH easter egg roll is funded by private donations. Soooo, if that is the case, why did the WH threaten to cancel it, blaming it on sequester?

td

March 19th, 2013
3:03 pm

Posted this below:

Sen. Rand Paul continued his political makeover Tuesday, endorsing a legal status for undocumented immigrants in the United States as he transforms from 2010 tea party insurgent to potential 2016 presidential nominee.

“If you wish to work, if you wish to live and work in America, then we will find a place for you,” Paul said in an address to the U.S. Hispanic Chamber of Commerce, pledging to be “part of the solution” on immigration reform.
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While it has been widely reported that Paul backed a pathway to citizenship, the Kentucky Republican never used the word “citizenship” in his speech. Instead, he argued for a solution besides “amnesty or deportation” and said conservative Republicans should start by “acknowledging we aren’t going to deport 12 million illegal immigrants.

In a statement, Paul spokeswoman Eleanor May said Paul’s plan was not a path to citizenship.

“What his plan is extending to them is a quicker path to normalization, not citizenship, and being able to stay and work,” she said.

Read more: http://www.politico.com/story/2013/03/rand-paul-immigration-89066.html#ixzz2O0rT7VHw

getalife

March 19th, 2013
3:03 pm

“Shouldn’t you be focused on getting your rabbits back? ”

I do speak con but what in the world are you mumbling about?

Scratch It

March 19th, 2013
3:03 pm

Fred ™:

I’ve never heard Paul say he wasn’t for immigration reform…

Fred ™

March 19th, 2013
3:03 pm

Shouldn’t you be focused on getting your rabbits back?

Oh hell. What happened to Get’s bunnies? I didn’t know he HAD bunnies……….

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jvT96xAxPk8

stands for decibels

March 19th, 2013
3:04 pm

And it’s off topic, but Johnny did it first! normal brought it up:

Sen. Dianne Feinstein said she will be able to offer her ban on the military-style firearms as an amendment. Feinstein is all but certain to need 60 votes from the 100-member Senate to prevail, but she faces solid Republican opposition and likely defections from some moderate Democrats.

“I very much regret it,” Feinstein, D-Calif., told reporters of Reid’s decision. “I tried my best.”

If I had a chance to chat with DiFi I’d say: “Senator? It was made painfully clear to you, time and again, the past two years, that absent serious filibuster reform, absolutely NOTHING was going to get out of the Senate without 60 votes. And you didn’t get behind that lonely group of Senators trying to push for such reforms.

“You want to regret something, regret that. Not some doomed-from-the-start assault weapons ban.”

Doggone/GA

March 19th, 2013
3:04 pm

“Yes. Very basic econ. If you incentivize something you get more of it”

Yes, I understand. You have no proof.

Fred ™

March 19th, 2013
3:05 pm

Peadawg

March 19th, 2013
3:05 pm

“JKL2, why do you hate the US Constitution so much?”

Wanting to amend the constitution of an out-dated law DOES NOT EQUAL “hating the constitution.

Steve

March 19th, 2013
3:06 pm

Doggone/GA

The onus is on you to prove otherwise. The study of human action says that when you incentivize something you get more of it.

Scratch It

March 19th, 2013
3:06 pm

DownInAlbany

March 19th, 2013
3:06 pm

Fred ™

March 19th, 2013
3:02 pm

Dangit, Fred, you just hit a homerun!

ITS ALL BUSH'S FAULT

March 19th, 2013
3:06 pm

More of the same GOP BS . Paul is pandering tool just like Mittens…. CLINTON …2016

Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes

March 19th, 2013
3:07 pm

Fred

The biggest difference I can see is that in 2006, we didn’t have an economic crisis, so Obama’s flip-flop is a result of a massive and almost overnight change.

It’s not like all of a sudden 11-12 million illegals just suddenly dropped in for dinner and didn’t go home. They’ve been coming in droves since the 1986 amnesty.

Matti

March 19th, 2013
3:07 pm

DowninAlbany @ 3:03,

We now know you’ve been watching the hot chicks on Fox “News,” as that’s what their little thongs have been in a bunch over all day. Because, you know, there’s NO meaningful news to report, and nothing happening in the world that we need to know about today that’s more disturbing than THAT!

getalife

March 19th, 2013
3:08 pm

I never had rabbits so I have no idea what the fringe is talking about.

I guess it is the Easter bunny and the kids will enjoy the egg hunt as usual.

The fringe obsess about the silliest things.

Joe Hussein Mama

March 19th, 2013
3:08 pm

Scratch It — “I thought”

Objection, your honor. Defendant is claiming facts not in evidence. :D

Doggone/GA

March 19th, 2013
3:09 pm

“I do speak con but what in the world are you mumbling about?”

this maybe: http://www.ajc.com/news/news/local/77-rabbits-found-in-dunwoody-home/nWxMQ/

Jefferson

March 19th, 2013
3:09 pm

What has he done for KY ? Nothing, nada.

Stevie Ray

March 19th, 2013
3:11 pm

getalife

March 19th, 2013
3:03 pm

See page 1 of todays paper..

FRED

Thanks for taking me back in time to yesterday. Suggest you go back and read my latest posts. My point here is that the issue of immigration is a fun topic but throwing darts at a politician changing tunes is boring…and yes, BO has done his share of changing tunes midstream and the example I pointed out is just one.

Fred..they are politicians for christ sake..giving any of them the benefit of the doubt is not a tool in my aresenal (of course it can be argued that I’m quite the tool but thats for another day).

DannyX

March 19th, 2013
3:11 pm

Wow, that Mitt Romney Etch-a-Sketch sure gets around.

JamVet

March 19th, 2013
3:11 pm

Peadawg, I’ve said it repeatedly and I’ll say it again.

We will not allow these perverted Republicans to put their filthy hands on that sacred document.

Doggone/GA

March 19th, 2013
3:11 pm

“The onus is on you to prove otherwise”

No, it isn’t. The onus is on YOU to prove that we have a problem with illegal immigrants getting on “welfare”

I’m not doing your work for you. You don’t pay enough.

DownInAlbany

March 19th, 2013
3:11 pm

Matti

March 19th, 2013
3:07 pm

Sorry to disappoint, there sport, but, I’ve been at work all day. Thanks for coming to ole Granny’s defense, though, she seems to always fight her own battles.

Anton Chigurh

March 19th, 2013
3:12 pm

You had him facing right on the Teacon positions and left on the RINO positions. Brilliant. You are an artist.

Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes

March 19th, 2013
3:12 pm

GETALIFE

Shouldn’t you be focused on getting your rabbits back?

getalife lives in Louisiana.

Geez….

Scratch It

March 19th, 2013
3:12 pm

Joe Hussein Mama:

Yes and facts is something you libs either ignore or don’t understand.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/111th_United_States_Congress

stands for decibels

March 19th, 2013
3:12 pm

What has he done for KY ?

The GOP doesn’t bother with lube.

Stevie Ray

March 19th, 2013
3:12 pm

getalife

March 19th, 2013
3:08 pm

Now now, denial isn’t just a river in Egypt. How you managed to tend to 44 rabbits and keep up with your intelligensia at this site is admirable..

Nero

March 19th, 2013
3:13 pm

getalife as Lennie. Lol :)

Fred ™

March 19th, 2013
3:13 pm

It’s not like all of a sudden 11-12 million illegals just suddenly dropped in for dinner and didn’t go home. They’ve been coming in droves since the 1986 amnesty.

I understand that Kam but you and I see the illegal thing differently. You worked for a different type of builder than I did when I was subbing, and when I was Contracting, I hired a different type of ‘Mexican.” I hired whoever did the BEST job, not who had the cheapest price. I hired for consistency and reliability. Sometimes it was a “Mexican” and sometimes it wasn’t, but it was never cheap. Like a dumb ass, if someone I KNEW could do the job gave me a bid that was too low I told them to rethink it or that maybe we would talk again after the job was over. I never wanted to cheat anyone.

TBS

March 19th, 2013
3:13 pm

“My point here is that the issue of immigration is a fun topic but throwing darts at a politician changing tunes is boring”

If you are unable to contact the authorities, I will do it for you.

Just a simple yes or no, are you in danger and being forced to blog here?

:-)

getalife

March 19th, 2013
3:14 pm

lil stevie ,

I live in Louisiana.

I have possums, wild cats and a raccoon I feed but no rabbits.

stands for decibels

March 19th, 2013
3:15 pm

How you managed to tend to 44 rabbits

77 rabbits.

Geez…

Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes

March 19th, 2013
3:15 pm

How you managed to tend to 44 rabbits and keep up with your intelligensia at this site is admirable..

How you manage to not be informed about where he lives reveals much about your lack of intelligence.

Peadawg

March 19th, 2013
3:15 pm

JamVet
March 19th, 2013
3:11 pm

So sacred that it’s been amended like 15 times since it was ratified….

:roll:

alittlecommonsense

March 19th, 2013
3:15 pm

Completely off topic…

Those of you who smugly put the honey boo boo family in the Republican camp, maybe you should check this link – http://www.accessatlanta.com/gallery/entertainment/photos-mama-june-hits-glaad-awards/g8Yb/#3214220

If she’s a Republican, she’s probably the only one at the GLAD awards. So now I guess we know which party is really the party of Honey Boo Boo. And which one is the party of smug, superior jerks who look at someone like her with disgust and think “she can’t be one of us”.

JamVet

March 19th, 2013
3:16 pm

Downstairs, DiA asked me about Fox “News”.

Go check out their website and see what you can find about the 10th anniversary of Bush’s horrifically botched invasion of Iraq.

There is one link that contains nothing but the musings of an embedded Fox reporter.

That is it.

Oh, how could I forget their related news item link to an article written by that sickening POS Paul Wolfowitz.

Fox News has American blood on their hands and they don’t want their loyal readership to remember their role as the head cheerleader.

Millions of us will never forget it…

Stevie Ray

March 19th, 2013
3:17 pm

Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes GETALIIFE

March 19th, 2013
3:12 pm

Oh, I’m sorry GETALIFE…..just messing with you..

Jefferson

March 19th, 2013
3:17 pm

GAL – That would make you a coon azz, I have cousins like that.

Fred ™

March 19th, 2013
3:17 pm

getalife: I’ll bet you WISH you had 44 bunnies like the ones in my 3:05……. :mrgreen:

Peadawg

March 19th, 2013
3:18 pm

“I’ll bet you WISH you had 44 bunnies like the ones in my 3:05…….”

I prefer women with real boobs…not fake ones that just stare at you and don’t move.

Glenn Hunter

March 19th, 2013
3:18 pm

Ron Paul is wrong! Secure (really secure) the borders first, permanently — THEN talk about how to resolve the illegal immigrants issue. Next, tackle immigration reform to improve our position in the world. Bring immigrants up to our standard and our language to raise the level of our melting pot, not segregate through language and cultures.

Scratch It

March 19th, 2013
3:18 pm

I thinks its ridiculous that people are saying that the Satan character in the movie “The Bible” looks like obama. Maybe there are similarities but when Satan comes back he’ll be much more liked than obama ever has.

http://savingtherepublic.com/blog/2013/03/history-channels-satan-from-the-bible-looks-like-obama-has-social-media-on-fire/

Doggone/GA

March 19th, 2013
3:19 pm

“Secure (really secure) the borders first”

Nothing like asking for the impossible.

Nero

March 19th, 2013
3:19 pm

getalife as Lennie Small fits. :)

getalife

March 19th, 2013
3:19 pm

Stevie,

I know.

Jefferson,

Yup :)

Fred,

I would have to share :)

JohnnyReb

March 19th, 2013
3:19 pm

“getalife lives in Louisiana”

That answers a lot.

Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes

March 19th, 2013
3:19 pm

Fred yeah I get that, but I was addressing how those two things – Obama’s reversal of the debt limit, and Paul’s reversal of IAs – is a matter of how drastic things changed in the economy as opposed to a nearly thirty year old problem.

JKL2

March 19th, 2013
3:20 pm

jamvet- JKL2, why do you hate the US Constitution so much?

How does saying “anchor babies need to go” turn into “I hate the Constitution”?

As Sen. Paul said, we’re about the only country to have that law. It needs to go.

I’d like to get rid of the 17th Amendment too, while we’re at it.

Fred ™

March 19th, 2013
3:20 pm

alittlecommonsense: I don’t watch that show, but according to reports she has lost over 100 pounds in the last year. I’m proud of her and jealous all at the same time for that. Way to go Mama Boo Boo or whatever her name is.

In all the little snippets I have seen though, that family looks like they enjoy life, have a good time, and don’t waste a moment hating on folks.

Tom Middleton

March 19th, 2013
3:20 pm

I guess since being on all sides of every issue worked so well for Mitt….Naw, this couldn’t be it, could it, Jay? Maybe he’s just stupid! :)

Steve (original)

March 19th, 2013
3:20 pm

Rand Paul is a total nutjob. He’s way too libertarian for most of your die hard Confederate conservative hoo haws either.

JohnnyReb

March 19th, 2013
3:20 pm

Stevie Ray – best chuckle of the day, thanks.

getalife

March 19th, 2013
3:21 pm

“I prefer women with real boobs…not fake ones that just stare at you and don’t move.”

Tough call.

Matti

March 19th, 2013
3:21 pm

DownInAlbany,

Sorry. Some days I work form home and put (infotainment disguised as) news on in the background. The pretty daytime blond on FNC really IS all bunched up about that today! So much so, that she had to call in important analyst-type people to discuss how this could possibly be. Disclaimer: I flip channels often, never able to stomach any one of them too long.

Stevie Ray

March 19th, 2013
3:21 pm

Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes

March 19th, 2013
3:15 pm

Yeah your right speaking from your sandbox….I don’t even know where GETALIFE lives…I must be some sort of idiot.

Is knowing where all the posters here live a pre-requisite to joining the party?

I am sure where USNUK lives..

JamVet

March 19th, 2013
3:21 pm

But not by profane neocons who would turn it into a complete joke, Peadawg.

No worries, they are on their way out, and the most sacred document ever written will not be polluted by these Neanderthals…

Doggone/GA

March 19th, 2013
3:21 pm

“How does saying “anchor babies need to go” turn into “I hate the Constitution”?”

There’s no such thing as an “anchor baby”

Jay

March 19th, 2013
3:21 pm

Fred, you make a valid point worthy of a response. Two points:

First, I posted this for the reason suggested in the headline, as a rebuttal to those who say the two parties are one and the same and that elections never really change things for the better. Actually, yes they do, and on a very big issue.

The second is as an illustration of what we were talking about yesterday regarding the need for Republicans to at least change their tone. I find the change in tone here even more remarkable than the change in policy it represents. In the example that you cite, even when Obama was expressing his opposition to gay marriage, he did so in terms respectful to gay Americans.

That often hasn’t been the GOP approach, but Paul may be demonstrating how the new style works.

Get Real

March 19th, 2013
3:22 pm

Yeah Jay, it is a real shame that no one wants to hear the facts….

TBS

March 19th, 2013
3:22 pm

“Rand Paul is a total nutjob. He’s way too libertarian for most of your die hard Confederate conservative hoo haws either.”

He is a Senator from KY.

joe

March 19th, 2013
3:22 pm

The biggest proof that our country is in peril and on the wrong track headed for disaster is how in the world BHO could be re-elected. We have so many low information voters out there who couldn’t care less about the 16+ trillion national debt, high unemployment, never ending spending by Obama and us facing a fate like Cyprus or Greece…the only thing they cared about was getting the black man in office again, despite the fact he is THE worst president in our history. If you wanted a black man, you should have elected Herman Cain…but because he doesn’t believe in continued “free stuff” like Obozo, he didn’t stand a chance. Get off the plantation people. Your freedom is at stake.

Fred ™

March 19th, 2013
3:22 pm

Maybe there are similarities but when Satan comes back he’ll be much more liked than obama ever has.

http://www.instantrimshot.com

I don’t care who you are, that was funny.

Logical Dude

March 19th, 2013
3:22 pm

Glenn – Secure (really secure) the borders first, permanently

And how do you propose to pay for the police state the you want to create?

Regnad Kcin

March 19th, 2013
3:22 pm

“And do you have proof that people come here and go on “welfare” in any great numbers?”

Yes. Very basic econ. If you incentivize something you get more of it. If you incentivize people not to work you get more people not working. If people can come here and not work and make more than working in a sweatshop, then that’s what you will get.
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And this^^^ is what constitutes “proof” to FOX News viewers…

getalife

March 19th, 2013
3:22 pm

“That answers a lot.”

It is a very red State.

JohnnyReb

March 19th, 2013
3:23 pm

“..Confederate conservative hoo haws..”

I beg your pardon.

Steve (original)

March 19th, 2013
3:24 pm

“He is a Senator from KY.”

Oh, Kentucky – that state of enlightenment, prosperity, and tolerance.