If Rand Paul is your party’s future, it has no future
Rand Paul, the junior senator from Kentucky, is drawing attention as a potential Republican candidate for president come 2016, part of a new generation of GOP leadership.
But ladies and gentlemen, Rand Paul is also a bit of a nut. The deep streak of paranoia that he displayed for almost 13 hours on the Senate floor last week would, in ordinary times, disqualify him as a party leader, let alone a potential president. But sadly, these are not ordinary times.
Let’s start by admitting that the stunt itself was a nice piece of political stagecraft. The one-man, TV-friendly filibuster gave Paul the opportunity to play Jimmy Stewart, a lone hero standing up in defense of the Constitution. It’s the type of role that Paul covets.
However, if you’re going to grandstand on the national stage like that, shouldn’t you have something sane to say?
According to Paul, he rose to address the nation because he was deeply, seriously concerned that the Obama administration might start using drones to kill U.S. citizens, on U.S. soil, without due process and even if they posed no imminent threat.
“I will speak as long as it takes, until the alarm is sounded from coast to coast that our Constitution is important, that your rights to trial by jury are precious, that no American should be killed by a drone on American soil without first being charged with a crime, without first being found to be guilty by a court. That Americans could be killed in a cafe in San Francisco or in a restaurant in Houston or at their home in Bowling Green, Ky., is an abomination.”
It is a nonsensical, ridiculous issue. In a letter to Paul earlier in the week, Attorney General Eric Holder had already made it clear that no American was going to be droned by his or her own government in his or her own country:
“As members of this Administration have previously indicated, the U.S. government has not carried out drone strikes in the United States and has no intention of doing so. As a policy matter, moreover, we reject the use of military force where well-established law enforcement authorities in this country provide the best means for incapacitating a terrorist threat….
The question you have posed is therefore entirely hypothetical, unlikely to occur, and one we hope no President will ever have to confront. It is possible, I suppose, to imagine an extraordinary circumstance in which it would be necessary and appropriate under the Constitution and applicable laws of the United States for the President to authorize the military to use lethal force within the territory of the United States. For example, the President could conceivably have no choice but to authorize the military to use such force if necessary to protect the homeland in the circumstances of a catastrophic attack like the ones suffered on December 7, 1941, and September 11, 2001.”
That’s an entirely reasonable, common-sense and constitutionally appropriate response to an inherently silly query. But to Paul, that wasn’t enough to calm the fear. He and a few others, including Sen. Ted Cruz of Texas, seized upon the Holder letter as proof that the administration was keeping its options open.
As Paul later noted in his filibuster:
Those and other rantings inspired a second letter from Holder, much more succinct than the first:
“It has come to my attention that you have now asked an additional question: ‘Does the President have the authority to use a weaponized drone to kill an American not engaged in combat on American soil?’ The answer is no.”
Bill Kristol, writing in the Weekly Standard, was properly dismissive of the Paul stunt, and what it might mean to the Republican Party:
“Will it ultimately serve (Paul) well to be the spokesman for the Code Pink faction of the Republican Party? How much staying power is there in a political stance that requires waxing semi-hysterical about the imminent threat of Obama-ordered drone strikes against Americans sitting in cafés? And as for the other Republican senators who rushed to the floor to cheer Paul on, won’t they soon be entertaining second thoughts? Is patting Rand Paul on the back for his fear-mongering a plausible path to the presidency for Marco Rubio or Ted Cruz? Is embracing kookiness a winning strategy for the Republican Party? We doubt it.”
I doubt it too. I didn’t think it possible for the 2016 GOP presidential field to even approach the 2012 field in terms of wackiness, but given early indications, I may have to reconsider that notion.
– Jay Bookman
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Fred ™
March 11th, 2013
2:38 pm
Time will tell.
Fred ™
March 11th, 2013
2:39 pm
Hit enter instead of return lol.
Time will tell.
It’s hard to imagine a bigger field of stupid but then from what I see here every day the Republicans have not yet even begun to defile themselves as badly as they can………..
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
March 11th, 2013
2:40 pm
It is a nonsensical, ridiculous issue. In a letter to Paul earlier in the week, Attorney General Eric Holder had already made it clear that no American was going to be droned by his or her own government in his or her own country:
What’s ridiculous is that it has already been done, and in Wisconsin
http://www.thechicagodope.com/2010/11/11/cia-admits-drone-strike-killed-six-in-wisconsin-wedding-party/
I know it’s true ‘ cause little tommy said so.
getalife
March 11th, 2013
2:43 pm
” Is embracing kookiness a winning strategy for the Republican Party?”
Those who pretend the gop have acted sane under President Obama are lying.
Tom da bomb
March 11th, 2013
2:46 pm
Jay, the Republican Party has full capability to “approach the 2012 field in terms of wackiness.” How could you ever doubt that?
stands for decibels
March 11th, 2013
2:46 pm
However, if you’re going to grandstand on the national stage like that, shouldn’t you have something sane to say?
Like, say, Bernie Sanders, back in Dec. 2010.
http://www.sanders.senate.gov/newsroom/news/?id=e35eddb4-0d83-4c55-92c0-e448c55526ff
by golly
March 11th, 2013
2:46 pm
Is he naturally curly or is that a Toni home permanent? I ask because maybe the solution and rollers were too tight.
Erwin's cat
March 11th, 2013
2:46 pm
The deep streak of paranoia that he displayed for almost 13 hours on the Senate floor last week would, in ordinary times, disqualify him as a party leader, let alone a potential president.
I applaud Paul and his paranoia in this instance
Jefferson
March 11th, 2013
2:47 pm
Judd has the GOP SCARED…
UNCLE SAMANTHA
March 11th, 2013
2:47 pm
MORE TWAIN……..
Sometimes I wonder whether the world is being run by smart people who are putting us on, or by imbeciles who really mean it.
Tom da bomb
March 11th, 2013
2:47 pm
As Bill Maher put it: “New rule — if your toupee looks like it was made from pubic hairs, you should probably quit wearing it.”
Jefferson
March 11th, 2013
2:48 pm
Reasonable people can come to reasoanable conclusions under reasonable conditions, unless you are a republican.
Keep Up the Good Fight!
March 11th, 2013
2:48 pm
Nooooooo…. let them pick Rant Paul. He’s making Elmer Fudd look like a genius.
Redneck Convert (R--and proud of it)
March 11th, 2013
2:48 pm
Well, seems to me this Rand Paul needs a whizanater, or whatever that guy—I think it was a ball player—used. It’s a shame to cut off a filibuster just because you got to take a leak.
And Bookman is dead wrong. This Rand Paul was talking about a concern I have. Every morning when I leave for work I look up at the sky and wonder if Obama’s got me zeroed in with one of them Drones. I guess I should be thankful that old Chip Rogers took care of my concern about being jumped by a bunch of thugs and having a chip planted in my brain. But there’s nobody but Rand Paul looking out for keeping me from getting zapped by a Drone.
It’s a shame, is what it is. I could be blasted to smithereens just any day now and the only person that would care would be the warehouse manager wanting to know if his beer is safe. Some guy at a computer in Las Vegas could be getting a call from the White House just any day now. “Get Redneck!” the voice would say, and whatever’s left of me would be pushing up daisies in a couple days.
And that’s the reason why I think Bookman is wrong. Heck, if it’ll keep me safe, I’ll go into that Senate and hold a pee pot for Rand Paul. Right after he kills his Daddy for giving him such a silly name.
Kamchak ~Thug from the Steppes
March 11th, 2013
2:48 pm
“If you like piña coladas,
And getting droned in cafes.”
– Thomas “Rupert Holmes” Jefferson
stands for decibels
March 11th, 2013
2:48 pm
I applaud Paul and his paranoia in this instance
Do you think this was a net positive, politically, for him?
td
March 11th, 2013
2:49 pm
I will put Joe Biden’s kookiness up against Rand Paul any day of the week.
Paul is a Libertarian and that is about as far away from the progressive philosophy as one can get. Libertarians believe in personal responsibility, less government and less taxes while progressives believe in no responsibility, more government and more taxes.
Normal, Plain and Simple
March 11th, 2013
2:51 pm
If I were Ron Paul, I’d be quoting Buford T. Justice…
” There’s no way, *no* way that you came from *my* loins. Soon as I get home, first thing I’m gonna do is punch yo mamma in da mouth!”
stands for decibels
March 11th, 2013
2:51 pm
Libertarians believe in personal responsibility
Unless you’re a Rand Paul “libertarian,” and are fine and dandy with state governments telling you what you can and can’t do with your own body.
(and I suspect Randy would be A-ok with state governments droning uppity types. It’s just the federales doing that sort of thing that has him nervous, right?)
Daedalus
March 11th, 2013
2:51 pm
Looks like Senator Paul forgot his tin-foil hat….
UNCLE SAMANTHA
March 11th, 2013
2:52 pm
Suppose you were an idiot. And suppose you were a member of Congress. But I repeat myself.
td
March 11th, 2013
2:52 pm
“It is a nonsensical, ridiculous issue. In a letter to Paul earlier in the week, Attorney General Eric Holder had already made it clear that no American was going to be droned by his or her own government in his or her own country:”
Then why did the AG come out with a more definitive and more straightforward concrete statement the next day?
Regnad Kcin
March 11th, 2013
2:54 pm
“Then why did the AG come out with a more definitive and more straightforward concrete statement the next day?’
td – if you actually read teh AG’s response, you’ll have your answer… *sigh*
JohnnyReb
March 11th, 2013
2:55 pm
Kristol, while still better than Leftie pundits, is of the old guard. He is in the group who backed McCain and Romney if for no other reason than they were “next.” He would, under pressure, find some way to justify yielding to Obama on more tax increases.
As to Paul’s so-called ridiculous stand, I offer this as an example of political ridiculousness-
“This year will go down in history. For the first time, a civilized nation has full gun registration. Our streets will be safer, our police more efficient, and the world will follow our lead into the future!” – Adolf Hitler 1935
Hey, Eric Holder...
March 11th, 2013
2:56 pm
…started it…and Rand finished it, sort of…
larry
March 11th, 2013
2:57 pm
Boy , the repubs learned a lot from 2012 didnt they?
Fred ™
March 11th, 2013
2:57 pm
For Uncle Samantha, MORE TWAIN:
I’m going out tonight-I’m feelin’ alright
Gonna let it all hang out
Wanna make some noise-really raise my voice
Yeah, I wanna scream and shout
No inhibitions-make no conditions
Get a little outta line
I ain’t gonna act politically correct
I only wanna have a good time
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZJL4UGSbeFg
Kamchak ~Thug from the Steppes
March 11th, 2013
2:59 pm
Godwin’s Law in 24 posts.
Gotta be a record here.
Keep Up the Good Fight!
March 11th, 2013
2:59 pm
Then why did the AG come out with a more definitive and more straightforward concrete statement the next day?
Because when you are in the bubble of Faux Narnia, you can’t hear what goes on in the real world.
fedup
March 11th, 2013
2:59 pm
Rand Paul is from Kentucky. Enough said.
fedup
March 11th, 2013
3:01 pm
This Rand Paul thingy is directly out of the movie “Russian are coming Russian are coming”. That was a hilarious movie.
Erwin's cat
March 11th, 2013
3:01 pm
Do you think this was a net positive, politically, for him?
for the right yes…even some lefties on here
Welcome to the Occupation
March 11th, 2013
3:01 pm
“But ladies and gentlemen, Rand Paul is also a bit of a nut”
There it is. I knew it.
I figured that Jay Bookman, who considered the coin beneath the “dignity” of our great system, would look right past the point of the Rand Paul filibuster.
Then when he cites — wait for it — Bill Kristol for support. He removes all doubt.
Fred ™
March 11th, 2013
3:02 pm
while progressives believe in no responsibility, more government and more taxes.
It this ignorant FOXBOT lie you keep repeating that is the root of your problem. Whenever you shroud the truth in silly little lies like that you can never be politically viable. The negative crap aint’ working Homer. Try something else.
Jefferson
March 11th, 2013
3:03 pm
Paul wanted to be on the news, bfd.
JohnnyReb
March 11th, 2013
3:03 pm
A favorite T-Shirt just after the USSR fell – Paul Revere on horseback riding across Red Square yelling – The Lawyers are coming, the Lawyers are coming!
Uh Huh.......New GOP is old POISON in new bottles
March 11th, 2013
3:03 pm
Caveat Emptor
Huh
Fred ™
March 11th, 2013
3:04 pm
Then why did the AG come out with a more definitive and more straightforward concrete statement the next day?
So that folks like you could understand it. He used littler words the second time and talked slower so you could keep up.
The Oddball
March 11th, 2013
3:05 pm
JohnnyReb: The mail must be slow in your area. The “Hitler took away their guns” urban legend has long since been debunked. Please do a little independent research once in a while, starting with the 1938 Weapons Act (which loosened gun laws for everyone except the Jews.)
Jose79845
March 11th, 2013
3:06 pm
The two hottest topics of guns and marijuana are determined by keywords used for internet searches. Rand Paul wipes out Hillary on both of the topics and the Hillary lovers know it.
Hillary lovers and pro drug war conservatives will fight against Rand Paul and do anything to keep him from getting traction. If the GOP falls for the Hillary lovers’ tricks and drug war McCains obsession with marijuana, they will run another marijuana prohibitionist for president, they will lose in 2016, 2020, 2024, etc.
Granny Godzilla
March 11th, 2013
3:07 pm
Ok so the GOP bench now has
Rand Paul
Marco Rubio
Ted Cruz
Jeb Bush
or as I like to think of them
Harpo
Groucho
Chico and
Zeppo.
Erwin's cat
March 11th, 2013
3:07 pm
fedup – Rand Paul is from Kentucky. Enough said.
so was Daniel Boone, James Bowie, George Clark, Thomas Morgan, and, Phillip Sharp
stands for decibels
March 11th, 2013
3:07 pm
I offer this as an example of political ridiculousness-
I’m just shaking my head here. I know J-Reb is capable of some stunning foolishness, but actually believing a beyond-absurd made-up Hitler quote like that?
in twenty effing thirteen?
mein freaking Gott…
JohnnyReb
March 11th, 2013
3:07 pm
Thanks Oddball – us Conservatives live in our own world, you know. I’ll tell my emailing Conservative friends to do more research.
Finn McCool (the system isn't broken; it's fixed)
March 11th, 2013
3:08 pm
Don’t drone me, Bro!
UNCLE SAMANTHA
March 11th, 2013
3:08 pm
In religion and politics, people’s beliefs and convictions are in almost every case gotten at second-hand, and without examination.
gadem also known as Benghazi
March 11th, 2013
3:08 pm
I read today on AL.com that some Republicans were clamoring for Dr. Ben Carson because of his opposition to the National Health Bill…
They will throw anyone to the wall to see who will stick, and that will be their nominee.
HDB
March 11th, 2013
3:10 pm
“But ladies and gentlemen, Rand Paul is also a bit of a nut. ”
Gross understatement if I ever saw one……………..
Fred ™
March 11th, 2013
3:10 pm
JohnnyReb: The mail must be slow in your area.
Oddball. It’s not the mail that’s slow……..
Jase
March 11th, 2013
3:12 pm
Should we be concerned? Obama loves the drone strike. Would you rather be water-boarded by Bush or drone striked by Obama?
stands for decibels
March 11th, 2013
3:12 pm
I’ll tell my emailing Conservative friends to do more research.
About Hitler, the Jews, and gun control, from a very pro-gun standpoint:
http://www.guncite.com/gun_control_gcnazimyth.html
Fly-On-The-Wall
March 11th, 2013
3:13 pm
Rand Paul is setting up a run as a third party candidate – the Kooky Party.
Jerome Horwitz
March 11th, 2013
3:13 pm
Mr. Paul gives crazy a bad name.
Brocephus – If you’re around what do you think of the new TSA rules?
Stevie Ray
March 11th, 2013
3:14 pm
Rand Paul is a complete wingnut…nice write up Jay.
We shouldn’t be surprised however, the president has set a new standard of making speech’s to rip the other side…this in addition to shunning mainstream media are to become the new norm I expect. Take the issue to the people instead of the proven successful formula of developing relationships and answering to the media in person.
Nothing changes the fact that Pauls nomeritbuster and his politics in general are not my idea of attractive.
JamVet
March 11th, 2013
3:14 pm
The Friend of the White Power Gang, Rand Paul is just the Segregationist Party’s latest nutty flavor of the month.
And if you want sources and supportable documentation about Rand’s racist past, DO NOT ask Recon Del.
LOL…
JohnnyReb
March 11th, 2013
3:16 pm
Now Fred – I’ve tried to be nice to you since Jay sent you to the corner for two days.
Stevie Ray
March 11th, 2013
3:16 pm
stands for decibels
March 11th, 2013
3:12 pm
Thanks for getting the obligatory Hitler reference out of the way early in this forum..
Kamchak ~Thug from the Steppes
March 11th, 2013
3:16 pm
Jerome
Seems to be a bit of a kerfuffle over an ignored handshake.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/21737233
Jerome Horwitz
March 11th, 2013
3:17 pm
In the 1960’s a man named Charles Whitman barricaded himself in a clock tower and shot some 20 people. From his vantage point it was difficult for LE to get to him. A drone would probably knock him out in minutes. But RP and others of his ilk probably wouldn’t like it.
td
March 11th, 2013
3:17 pm
It is funny that you progressives are now coming out against Rand’s stance because he is a Republican when your own ACLU and Code pink are saying he was exactly correct.
Matti
March 11th, 2013
3:17 pm
Dear Rand Paul supporters,
Because you and Curly did not condemn this with the voracity it should have been condemned, as far as I’m concerned, this is YOU: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SbnEy_U9pYk
Yes, I see the “Don’t Tread On Me” button on the shirt of one of the “Violence Against Women is the American Way” enforcers. Your claim to love freedom is a lie. And furthermore, *bleep* you. That is all.
~ Matti ~
P.S. Yes, every time Curly is mentioned in one of these columns, I will remind you of this. Forever and ever, Amen.
Keep Up the Good Fight!
March 11th, 2013
3:18 pm
We shouldn’t be surprised however, the president has set a new standard of making speech’s to rip the other side…this in addition to shunning mainstream media are to become the new norm I expect
Dick Cheney says what?
Kamchak ~Thug from the Steppes
March 11th, 2013
3:18 pm
Thanks for getting the obligatory Hitler reference out of the way early in this forum..
JohnnyReb says, “What?”
Stevie Ray
March 11th, 2013
3:19 pm
STANDS
BTW, why doesn’t anyone use Leopold as a reference in addition to the usual crap? He’s in the top five in the kill list…
Fred ™
March 11th, 2013
3:19 pm
Now Fred – I’ve tried to be nice to you since Jay sent you to the corner for two days.
Don’t hold back. I’m a man, I can take it. Besides, you have to admit that WAS teed up nicely. How could I NOT drive it down range………..
Jerome Horwitz
March 11th, 2013
3:20 pm
Kam – Two drama queens! Come on guys get over yourselves and at acknowledge the other. Poor sportsmanship on Sir Alex’s part.
Nice comeback by the Blues – thought you guys were gonna put the decider in.
Jose79845
March 11th, 2013
3:20 pm
The two party dictatorship will end up putting in Hillary if the GOP cannot come up with someone who is not a marijuana prohibitionist.
stands for decibels
March 11th, 2013
3:21 pm
Thanks for getting the obligatory Hitler reference out of the way early in this forum..
Yep. That’s how I roll! I’m always “Hitler this,” “Hitler that,” “Hitlery Hitlerish Hitlerian other…”
Stevie Ray
March 11th, 2013
3:21 pm
Keep Up the Good Fight!
March 11th, 2013
3:18 pm
So in addition to continuing Bush policies, you are also suggesting he learned something of value from Cheney? Did I see a dog fly by my window?
JohnnyReb
March 11th, 2013
3:22 pm
BTW – it was not my intention to get the thread off on gun control but instead to point out that you can’t believe anything from a politician regardless of party. It’s actions that count. While Hitler did not ban guns from all germans, as has been pointed out, he did ban them from Jews. We know the rest.
Jerome Horwitz
March 11th, 2013
3:22 pm
Matti – Please watch what you say about Curly’s on this blog. A Stooge could be offended!
Fred ™
March 11th, 2013
3:22 pm
It is funny that you progressives are now coming out against Rand’s stance because he is a Republican
It’s not his stance silly boy, it’s the crazy things he said during his filibuster. Do try to keep up…….
TBS
March 11th, 2013
3:23 pm
“It is funny that you progressives are now coming out against Rand’s stance because he is a Republican when your own ACLU and Code pink are saying he was exactly correct.”
Are you so mypoic that you are unable to see that every person on the right doesn’t believe in every “conservative” tenet and the same goes for those on the left and “liberal ”
You don’t buy into everything that every “conservative” has to say or believes. Why do you mindlessly attempt to hold all liberals to YOUR narrative on liberals?
Is that something that makes you feel good about yourself or do you just not have the ability to think past your broad brushed Picasso’s you paint here daily?
JohnnyReb
March 11th, 2013
3:24 pm
Fred – I like a little levity even if at my expense when deserved.
Jose79845
March 11th, 2013
3:24 pm
There is nothing more certain than a GOP marijuana prohibitionist who will lose in 2016.
Marijuana got a higher percentage of votes in Colorado than Obama.
Darwin
March 11th, 2013
3:24 pm
Crazy? Jay – have you ever been to a Tea Party townhall meeting? They’re the same kind of people that the Libertarians attract.
Kamchak ~Thug from the Steppes
March 11th, 2013
3:26 pm
Jerome
After those two goals in the first eleven minutes, I’m ashamed to admit that I quit following via live text. I fully believed that to be too high a mountain to climb at Old Trafford.
I gotta say that I’m more than a wee bit nervous of being managed by the biggest drama queen of them all, The Special One.
Stevie Ray
March 11th, 2013
3:26 pm
JohnnyReb
March 11th, 2013
2:55 pm
Thanks for getting the obligatory Hitler reference out of the way so early in this forum. Great contribution.
Regrets STANDS and thanks KAMCHAK..my bad.
Fred ™
March 11th, 2013
3:26 pm
Jose79845
March 11th, 2013
3:20 pm
The two party dictatorship will end up putting in Hillary if the GOP cannot come up with someone who is not a marijuana prohibitionist.
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Dude, that’s just too crazy for even the far right wing nutcases on this blog. You need to try Kyles with that insanity.
Grasshopper
March 11th, 2013
3:27 pm
The worm has turned.
The 60’s-era commie/hippie libs are now trusting that the all-powerful, beneficent government would never ever target citizens on its own soil.
And they are laughing at someone who is not so sure.
stands for decibels
March 11th, 2013
3:28 pm
While Hitler did not ban guns from all germans, as has been pointed out, he did ban them from Jews. We know the rest.
J-Reb, if you choose to believe (above and beyond all available evidence to the contrary) that access to carry permits and such would’ve somehow protected European Jews against the Nazi war machine, you go right ahead.
but if you’re honest, you’ll have a look at that guncite.com reference I provided, and reconsider that treasured, but dunderheaded article of faith among too many 2nd Amendment hawks.
I linked you to that particular page because I am diametrically opposed, politically, to what that site’s author(s) advocate, but I do admire their willingness to approach these issues honestly.
TBS
March 11th, 2013
3:28 pm
Red
I think I previously read that Hitler banned Jews from manufacturing and dealing firearms, not the ownership of them. But I could be mistaken.
stands for decibels
March 11th, 2013
3:29 pm
Regrets STANDS
Hey, no worries, who among us hasn’t accused someone of tossing out obligatory Hitler references? For me it’s like my mornin’ coffee…
joe
March 11th, 2013
3:29 pm
Rand is not a nut…Obama is. Rand wants the USA to be the USA…where everyone has a chance to be whatever they want. You wanna be a rap star, go be one. You wanna be a drug dealer, go be one. You wanna be a business owner, go be one.
In Obama’s USA, he takes from the providers and gives to the leachers. This is not how America works. Obama’s idea of making spending cuts equates to cutting 6-cents off a monthly spending amount of $2,000. Yes, 6 cents. That is not cutting anything.
Rand Paul will cut, cut some more, then cut again, until we can get our debt and entitlements under control. That is not nuts, that is sound governing. I’m not at all surprised that Bookman and his band of loony libs would try to paint him as a loon…because it is you and people like you who put the worst president in the history of the USA back in office. Pathetic you all are!!
Stevie Ray
March 11th, 2013
3:29 pm
WOW, if a jackass like Trump will fund WH visits, why can’t the president do his part and cut his t&e expense? I thought he did that already..
http://www.politico.com/story/2013/03/trump-willing-to-fund-white-house-tours-88682.html?ml=po_r
Kamchak ~Thug from the Steppes
March 11th, 2013
3:30 pm
While Hitler did not ban guns from all germans, as has been pointed out, he did ban them from Jews.
The implication being is that if the Jews were armed, they could’ve stopped him?
The Germans got to within spitting distance of Moscow and the Russians certainly had more than just guns.
JamVet
March 11th, 2013
3:31 pm
Marijuana got a higher percentage of votes in Colorado than Obama.
Why wouldn’t it? Obama is a better Republican than most Republicans.
The upshot is that Willard and the puritans both got smacked around pretty good.
Colorado rocks.
Stevie Ray
March 11th, 2013
3:32 pm
stands for decibels
March 11th, 2013
3:29 pm
I’m thinking someone has to go Joseph Conrad and bring Leopold into the comparison…estimates of 5 to 15 million Congolese…all for a corner on the rubber market…
Class of '98
March 11th, 2013
3:37 pm
This column is ridiculous. Paul’s one-man filibuster was probably the most effective plan we’ve seen of of Washington in months.
Paul called attention to Holder’s sketchy, vague, wishy-washy non-answer. Even Jon Stewart admitted Holder’s response was troubling!
Paul’s filibuster worked to perfection,as Holder’s immediate, straightforward second answer proves.
Rand Paul was crazy like a fox in this whole thing.
You dims have bigger PR fish to fry right now. Hey Jay, you want to try to find a poll that says most Americans don’t believe the Obama administration is NOT trying to make the sequester more painful on the public? Good luck finding it.
SIX-HUNDRED AND SIX federal job openings were posted the same day they closed the White House for tours. If you still believe this man has the best intentions in his heart for this country, you are miserably gullible.
Then again, gullibility is why someone votes dimocrat in the first place.
GT
March 11th, 2013
3:37 pm
He must freeze everytime he hears an airplane flying over.
JamVet
March 11th, 2013
3:38 pm
Rand is not a nut…
But his past of cuddling up to virulent racists and bigots is troubling, to say the least, wouldn’t you agree?
Left up to him, those kids would still be sitting at that Woolworth lunch counter in Greensboro…
Fred ™
March 11th, 2013
3:38 pm
WOW, if a jackass like Trump will fund WH visits, why can’t the president do his part and cut his t&e expense?
I know you talk radio FOXBOTS know all the clever code words and such, but the rest of us don’t. What is the t&e expense? Teats and what? I can’t think of anything with an E.
stands for decibels
March 11th, 2013
3:38 pm
The implication being is that if the Jews were armed, they could’ve stopped him?
Consider this, too. There was, already, a lot of skepticism among the Allies regarding tales of German cruelty, since such stories had circulated during the previous World War (apparently the notion of Huns carrying babies around on bayonets was especially popular), and in America at least, the populace had gone overboard in villifying the Germans at the time.
Had there been *armed* resistance among Jews against Hitler in the 30s, the whole world would’ve known about it–and that likely would’ve provided the Lindbergs of this world with all the ammo they needed to keep FDR from helping in the fight against Hitler.
And no, I am not saying that the Jews wouldn’t have been perfectly justified in killing, early and often, as many Nazi swine as they could have, had the opportunity presented itself, it’s just kind of foolish to imagine that things would’ve somehow turned out appreciably better for them if they had.
Kamchak ~Thug from the Steppes
March 11th, 2013
3:39 pm
Then again, gullibility is why someone votes dimocrat in the first place.
El Rushbo dittoheads say, “What?”
Robert
March 11th, 2013
3:39 pm
I hope the GOP nominates this clown in 2016. Hillary Clinton is licking her chops, laughing all the way to the White House in 2016.
stands for decibels
March 11th, 2013
3:42 pm
Hey Jay, you want to try to find a poll that says most Americans don’t believe the Obama administration is NOT trying to make the sequester more painful on the public? Good luck finding it.
SIX-HUNDRED AND SIX federal job openings were posted the same day they closed the White House for tours. If you still believe this man has the best intentions in his heart for this country, you are miserably gullible.
I can guarandamntee you that nobody outside of the wingnuttisphere gives a crap about this stupid “white house tour”-gate thing you guys are trying to elevate to the level of Scandal for Realz.
GT
March 11th, 2013
3:43 pm
Robert I hope so too after the shotty way Rand treated her in that hearing the last day in office as Secretary of State. A debate with Hilary’s gloves off could sell tickets.
weetamoe
March 11th, 2013
3:43 pm
The president is capable of labeling any circumstance at all *extraordinary.* Holder had not answered the question before Paul began his filibuster. I watched the senate hearings and also watched and listened to both democrat and republican House members express anger and frustration that Holder had sent no one- not even the lowest level DOJ lawyer– to the congressional hearing that same day. Paul’s unrehearsed sans teleprompter 13-plus hour filibuster was measured, reasonable, and even-in the occasional bits of understated humor-entertaining. Ted Cruz’s recital of Henry V’s St Crispin’s Day speech was an appropriate addition (though it’s doubtful that the *brilliant intellectual* Obama would be familiar with the allusion) . So it appears that the two-day hate will target Rand Paul this time. Well that gives Emmanuel Goldstein a few days’ respite.
Kamchak ~Thug from the Steppes
March 11th, 2013
3:44 pm
…it’s just kind of foolish to imagine that things would’ve somehow turned out appreciably better for them if they had.
But they were denied their WOLVERINES! moment.
stands for decibels
March 11th, 2013
3:45 pm
Stevie, yeah, we don’t often think of the Belgians as world-class genocidal maniacs, but…
http://digitaljournal.com/blog/11297
Oscar
March 11th, 2013
3:47 pm
DSo it’s ok with the senator to use sniper rifles, just not drones.
williebkind
March 11th, 2013
3:47 pm
Yeah, I hope Hillary runs for President! Benghazi liar…have you notice she is letting her hair grow. Do you think she is trying to become sexy for the campaign?
Jose79845
March 11th, 2013
3:49 pm
Hillary has an army of bloggers discrediting Rand Paul so she can get away with being the marijuana hater that she is.
Kamchak ~Thug from the Steppes
March 11th, 2013
3:49 pm
Benghazi liar…
The smoking gun is the mushroom cloud.
We will be greeted as liberators.
getalife
March 11th, 2013
3:49 pm
I think we should label his wig as going galt
JamVet
March 11th, 2013
3:50 pm
Robert, no worries. Even if that neophyte at everything decided to run, outside of Ky., he would attract about as many voters as Herman or Newt did outside of Georgia.
Which is to say, other than as comedic material, his campaign would not be noteworthy…
Oscar
March 11th, 2013
3:50 pm
Willie – I think since she will not be constantly traveling all over the world, she will be able to take care of her hair and will be able to wear it long.
Oscar
March 11th, 2013
3:51 pm
Never knew that Hillary hated weed.
curious
March 11th, 2013
3:53 pm
Stevie Ray
“WOW, if a jackass like Trump will fund WH visits, why can’t the president do his part and cut his t&e expense? I thought he did that already..”
It’s a trick by Trump to infiltrate the WH with his investigators who are still uncovering evidence about Obama’s birth certificate.
Oscar
March 11th, 2013
3:53 pm
Pul is a non-starter. Jeb Bush looks like the man. And will probably be the next President.
Oscar
March 11th, 2013
3:54 pm
Tump said his investigators were on to something and would release the facts of the fraud later. Still waiting.
Kamchak ~Thug from the Steppes
March 11th, 2013
3:57 pm
Jeb Bush looks like the man.
I heard a lot of complaints about ” European style dynasty” from libertarians and conservatives against the Hillary campaign of 08.
I wonder if they’ll feel the same way if Jeb is the nominee in 16.
getalife
March 11th, 2013
3:59 pm
You have to be a gop kook to win in Texas.
Vinny
March 11th, 2013
4:00 pm
Welcome to the Weenie-blog. Let the bedwetting begin!
DoggoneGA
March 11th, 2013
4:01 pm
“Welcome to the Weenie-blog”
Well, you set the tone…so you should know.
Jose79845
March 11th, 2013
4:01 pm
How can Rand Paul be a non starter when he has already started? The Hillary lovers know that Rand Paul is the only GOP who can beat the marijuana hating old lady.
DebbieDoRight - What this country needs is more unemployed politicians
March 11th, 2013
4:02 pm
Redneck: I guess I should be thankful that old Chip Rogers took care of my concern about being jumped by a bunch of thugs and having a chip planted in my brain.
OMG! Redneck!! You are too funny! OMG I had to grab my inhaler ’cause you made me laugh so hard, i stopped breathing for a minute!
You need Jesus Rednck! You need jesus!
getalife
March 11th, 2013
4:03 pm
Jose
There are more issues than weed but do you have a link to show her position on weed?
TBS
March 11th, 2013
4:05 pm
“Welcome to the Weenie-blog. Let the bedwetting begin!”
Yep, like clockwork, it got pissy about the time you showed up
just saying
williebkind
March 11th, 2013
4:05 pm
So you liberals are choosing which republican is going to run for the white house? So I can expect the main stream media to start broadcasting that on an hour basis-Hillary good, liberal choice of republican bad!
Kamchak ~Thug from the Steppes
March 11th, 2013
4:07 pm
…a marijuana prohibitionist.
…marijuana prohibitionist who will lose in 2016.
…being the marijuana hater that she is.
…the marijuana hating old lady.
Worth noting that a stoner can be this focused.
Just sayin’.
TBS
March 11th, 2013
4:07 pm
“So you liberals are choosing which republican is going to run for the white house?”
Dude, you guys used that lame excuse after Republicans picked McCain and Romney…..
Talk radio and the rw websites really need to give you guys some new talking points
getalife
March 11th, 2013
4:08 pm
Hillary is retired so you can stop attacking her.
alittlecommonsense
March 11th, 2013
4:09 pm
Let me try to answer this question for Eric Holder.
“Yes Senator Paul, it would be absolutely and completely unconstitutional for the U.S. government to use a drone strike on a U.S. citizen within the U.S. who is not posing any imminent threat.”
If he said that, the issue would have been dead and dropped. It does seem wildly ridiculous that the U.S. government would do this. It seems so wildly unconstitutional that I can’t see any reason for any government official to use waffle phrases like “unlikely to occur”.
I’m not a lawyer and I can see that it is ridiculously unconstitutional. I can’t see how our Attorney General could think otherwise. Easy question, easy answer, no controversy.
Kamchak ~Thug from the Steppes
March 11th, 2013
4:09 pm
So you liberals are choosing which republican is going to run for the white house?
I say Elmer Fudd.
After all, y’all were so keen on him last time.
Thomas Heyward Jr
March 11th, 2013
4:10 pm
Comes now Bookman……………true to form.
A no principled Obama lap-dog progressive.
.
‘Glenn Greenwold has your number——————–
.
“Meanwhile, a large bulk of the Democratic and liberal commentariat – led, as usual, by the highly-paid DNC spokesmen called “MSNBC hosts” and echoed, as usual, by various liberal blogs, which still amusingly fancy themselves as edgy and insurgent checks on political power rather than faithful servants to it – degraded all of the weighty issues raised by this episode by processing it through their stunted, trivial prism of partisan loyalty. They thus dutifully devoted themselves to reading from the only script they know: Democrats Good, GOP Bad.”
.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2013/mar/10/paul-filibuster-drones-progressives
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“which still amusingly fancy themselves as edgy and insurgent checks on political power rather than faithful servants to it ”
.
Toooooooooooooooooooo funny.
Me
March 11th, 2013
4:10 pm
Hey Bookman-
If your party is so grand and wonderful, how about you write about it intead of your 1,258,368th blog on how awful the Republican party is…
DebbieDoRight - What this country needs is more unemployed politicians
March 11th, 2013
4:12 pm
SIX-HUNDRED AND SIX federal job openings were posted the same day they closed the White House for tours. If you still believe this man has the best intentions in his heart for this country, you are miserably gullible.
Class of ‘98…………………hmmm………………let me guess……………you’re a graduate of BugTussle Elementary in PoDunk Mississippi in ‘98 right?
I bet your folks are proud………………it only took you 10 years to get out of the 6th grade! Jethro Bodine has met his match in you by golly!
Boris Badnoff
March 11th, 2013
4:13 pm
That crazy right wing extremist Rand Paul believes that the American government shouldn’t be allowed to kill Americans on American soil with even being charged with a crime, much less indicted, tried and convicted. That Fifth Amendment to the Constitution that states that no one shall be deprived of life, liberty, or process without due process of law is just way too extreme. This is why I’d love to live next door to Jay Bookman. No one would ever send a drone for me because if they missed they might waste Our Beloved Messiah’s most faithful cheerleader and devoted scribe.
DebbieDoRight - What this country needs is more unemployed politicians
March 11th, 2013
4:13 pm
The Guardian is owned by Rupert Murdoch……………who just happens to own………….wait for it………..wait…………………………………for it……………….
Faux News!!
Is it any wonder that the Guardian and Faux News has the same “credibility” rating? //snicker//
ATL Tiger
March 11th, 2013
4:14 pm
Jay misses the point again.
This fillibuster wasn’t about drones, this fillibuster was about exposing another President and it’s Administration abusing power not granted to them in the Constitution.
JamVet
March 11th, 2013
4:15 pm
My prediction? Unless Obama gets caught sleeping with Larry Craig between now and 2016, there is no way in hell, that any member of the GOP will see the inside of the White House for another dozen years. Unless they are there to help Sean Hannity lead the school children’s tour…
JamVet
March 11th, 2013
4:17 pm
Boris found his respect for the US Constitution on January 21, 2009…
getalife
March 11th, 2013
4:17 pm
The gop said nothing under w so what changed?
Hypocrites.
DebbieDoRight - What this country needs is more unemployed politicians
March 11th, 2013
4:18 pm
That Fifth Amendment to the Constitution that states that no one shall be deprived of life, liberty, or process without due process of law is just way too extreme. This is why I’d love to live next door to Jay Bookman.
Dude — Two words Patriot Act
Brought to you by the letter B as in Bush as in G.W. Bush and the letter C as in Cheney as in Dick Cheney and the letter G as in Gonzalez as in AG Gonzales. Ramped up by the then republican congress and senate as the best thing since sliced bread in order to defeat home grown terrorists.
Class dismissed.
williebkind
March 11th, 2013
4:20 pm
“SIX-HUNDRED AND SIX federal job openings”
Yeah, creating federal jobs will get the economy growing because the government feeds off itself. Looks like someone graduated Socialist High!
getalife
March 11th, 2013
4:20 pm
Where was rand when w started these programs?
DebbieDoRight - What this country needs is more unemployed politicians
March 11th, 2013
4:21 pm
This fillibuster wasn’t about drones, this fillibuster was about exposing another President and it’s Administration abusing power not granted to them in the Constitution.
……………….BUT granted to him by the Patriot Act that was signed INTO law by a republican president and endorsed by a republican senate and congress and every FauxBot and LimpBallBaiter in a world called RepublicLand.
I finished the sentence for ya. I noticed you forgot a crucial part of it!
williebkind
March 11th, 2013
4:21 pm
“Dude — Two words Patriot Act ”
And the letter O– as in Obama and O I am going to blow your A$$ up.
union
March 11th, 2013
4:22 pm
i would bring this up too.. since the democratic party is not worried about killing anyone with the drones.. just making sure they are not used to spy on hollywood…
DebbieDoRight - What this country needs is more unemployed politicians
March 11th, 2013
4:23 pm
The gop said nothing under w so what changed?
Two words.
Brown Skin
Brown changes everything………………..
williebkind
March 11th, 2013
4:23 pm
“BUT granted to him by the Patriot Act”
The patriot act allowed citizens to be bombed? Wow, those government paid meds are reallly working.
union
March 11th, 2013
4:24 pm
debbie.. you taking instruction from jesse or al on your talking points?
williebkind
March 11th, 2013
4:24 pm
“The gop said nothing under w so what changed?
Two words.
Brown Skin
Brown changes ever”
Will you ever be equal?
Matt321
March 11th, 2013
4:24 pm
Jay, sorry to see you still carrying water for the unconstitutional policies pursued by the government. Please do further research on how the executive branch has repeatedly pushed back against any Congressional oversight of the drone program, to the extent that even legal memos which supposedly show the program is legal have not been shared with the staff of the Senators responsible for such oversight.
JamVet
March 11th, 2013
4:25 pm
Had John McCain or (perish the thought) Willard Romney been elected, does anyone think that Boris and willie would be *itching in the slightest about civil liberties, drones, etc?
Riiiight…
DebbieDoRight - What this country needs is more unemployed politicians
March 11th, 2013
4:26 pm
willie b — did you protest the patriotic act when it was first signed into law?
And, actually the letter O stands for,
O Sh###t!! A Black man is president!!
ATL Tiger
March 11th, 2013
4:26 pm
“Dude — Two words Patriot Act
Brought to you by the letter B as in Bush as in G.W. Bush and the letter C as in Cheney as in Dick Cheney and the letter G as in Gonzalez as in AG Gonzales. Ramped up by the then republican congress and senate as the best thing since sliced bread in order to defeat home grown terrorists.”
Passed the Senate 98-1
49 Dems, 49 GOP, 1 Ind
DebbieDoRight - What this country needs is more unemployed politicians
March 11th, 2013
4:27 pm
The patriot act allowed citizens to be bombed? Wow, those government paid meds are reallly working.
You mean you never READ it?!?
You endorsed it, you held it up as an example of america’s might, you applauded its passage, but you never READ it?
Dang!
I guess Forest was right…………..
Stupid is as stupid does.
williebkind
March 11th, 2013
4:27 pm
“to defeat home grown terrorists.”
The smoking gun is in the mushroom cloud!
ATL Tiger
March 11th, 2013
4:28 pm
“Where was rand when w started these programs?”
Probably practing Opthamology. Do research, less ignorance.
williebkind
March 11th, 2013
4:29 pm
I knew it! You and Forrest were political debaters.
indigo
March 11th, 2013
4:29 pm
George W. Bush was willing to get us into two useless wars in part, to fulfill Bible prophecy.
Mitt Romney stated that 49% of Americans paid no taxes. He also accused Obama of giving a large amount of “gifts” to people in exchange for votes.
Nominating whacky people for the House, Senate and the Presidency is the Republican way.
MANGLER
March 11th, 2013
4:29 pm
You’ve got nothing to worry about unless your hometown is renamed Benghazi.
ATL Tiger
March 11th, 2013
4:30 pm
“……………….BUT granted to him by the Patriot Act that was signed INTO law by a republican president and endorsed by a republican senate and congress and every FauxBot and LimpBallBaiter in a world called RepublicLand.
I finished the sentence for ya. I noticed you forgot a crucial part of it!”
No where in the Patriot Act does it grant the President or any other official in government the authority to kill an American citizen without due process.
What are you drinking?
Kamchak ~Thug from the Steppes
March 11th, 2013
4:30 pm
Yeah, creating federal jobs will get the economy growing because the government feeds off itself.
GOP lawmaker seeks $550M grant to promote abstinence in teens
Yeah, creating a half a billion dollar abstinence program will get the economy growing because IOKIYAR.
Keep Up the Good Fight!
March 11th, 2013
4:31 pm
All these conned willing to fund tours but not willing to pay for medical care, food for infants, help shelter the homeless.
I say we collect the checks and use them to help people.
williebkind
March 11th, 2013
4:33 pm
First, I do not support anything that is against the constitution but in times of crises, bombing of the towers, some liberties may have to be ignored for a few to keep the country safe. Then I have exception to it. There was not power struggle in the patriot act just a way to keep NY and other cities from exploding again. Second, most things done and said by Obama have demonstrated the desire for power. That is the scary part.
DEM
March 11th, 2013
4:33 pm
Is there no length to which you will stoop, Jay, to defend your Team Blue?
Paul asked Holder whether POTUS has the authority to use drone strikes on US soil. A simple no would have ended the matter. Holder refused to give that no.
Paul then commenced his filibuster.
Only then did Holder give the unqualified “no” Paul sought. This wasn’t a “more succint” version of the first letter, but a substantivelu different response. Response 1 refused to say POTUS lacked the authority, but offered assurances that the authority wouldn’t be used. That is far different from letter 2’s unqualified acknowledgement that the authority does not exist.
You are too smart not to notice the substantive difference. Thus, you’re intentionally obscuring the issue to score a cheap point for Team Blue.
Pathetic.
ATL Tiger
March 11th, 2013
4:33 pm
getalife,
here’s your concern laid to rest about rand on w’s policies
http://web.archive.org/web/20101104202615/http://www.randpaul2010.com/issues/h-p/privacy-liberty/
DebbieDoRight - What this country needs is more unemployed politicians
March 11th, 2013
4:34 pm
Passed the Senate 98-1
And? Your point?
Maybe your point is that it’s a LAW that was given credence by the CONGRESS and signed into action by PRESIDENT BUSH.
Before, someone, ( i think it was you, it sounded like your drivel), stated that the President didn’t have the RIGHT to do this or that, I was just pointing out……………..correctly i might add, that yes he DOES have the right.
The same people standing up decrying the legality of those rights, (now), probably SIGNED the dang bill in the first place.
williebkind
March 11th, 2013
4:34 pm
“All these conned willing to fund tours but not willing to pay for medical care, food for infants, help shelter the homeless.”
Google who donated most to charities then apologize for being a liar.
one and only
March 11th, 2013
4:36 pm
welcome back hope you all had a great time and played lots of golf and drank lots of bucca, but not too much.
Jefferson
March 11th, 2013
4:36 pm
willie is full
independent thinker
March 11th, 2013
4:36 pm
Excellent article Jay.
This stunt was part of the tea bagger “patriot” movement who want to convince the gun huggers and right wing kooks that the Black Messiah and Eric Holder is about to do a Waco on them and go after them just like the Branch Davidians. Read Paul’s egotistical and childish op-ed Saturday in the Washington Post. I am sure he has now inspired a few Timothy McVeighs and Nancy Lanzas to arm themselves for possible federal tyranny.What is most alarming is Paul’s mention of many conservative Senators who he alleges supported him including Saxby.
Where were all these patriots when Cheney and Gonzales were waterboarding and torturing with impunity?
Nobama
March 11th, 2013
4:36 pm
Talk about wacky – how about that moron Joe Biden ? and the lying bunch of cabinet members Nobama has surrounded himself with ? My personal favorite is the new secretary of energy – nice perm !
Nobama
March 11th, 2013
4:38 pm
Independent Thinker – Kill em’ all !!!
JamVet
March 11th, 2013
4:39 pm
You’ve got nothing to worry about unless your hometown is renamed Benghazi.
Now that is funny.
How the arguably worst candidate for POTUS in three generations could have turned that incident into a humiliating self-disgrace is still pretty mind boggling…
And Tiger is correct, the kowtowed Dems were just as complicit as the spineless Republicans in the willful violation of our constitutionally protected liberties vis a vis certain sections of that legislation.
And if you were to list those 99 men, NOT ONE of them beside Feingold of Wisconsin would be worthy of my vote for high office.
And as sad as it is, at least ten Democrats (NO neocons, of course) voted against the extension in 2006…
Throw in a scummy US Supreme Court and voila!
Who needs any stinking habeus corpus or protection from heretofore illegal spying?
ATL Tiger
March 11th, 2013
4:40 pm
“And? Your point?
Maybe your point is that it’s a LAW that was given credence by the CONGRESS and signed into action by PRESIDENT BUSH.
Before, someone, ( i think it was you, it sounded like your drivel), stated that the President didn’t have the RIGHT to do this or that, I was just pointing out……………..correctly i might add, that yes he DOES have the right.
The same people standing up decrying the legality of those rights, (now), probably SIGNED the dang bill in the first place.”
My point is that Senate was clearly in support of the Patriot Act, both Dems and GOP. You were just ranting how it was all GOP, when clearly Dems supported it just as much.
Also, please show where the President has the right under the Patriot Act or any other law since you ‘pointed it out’.
JamVet
March 11th, 2013
4:40 pm
I do not support anything that is against the constitution…
Which would be relevant, if you had a clue as to what was in it…
DebbieDoRight - What this country needs is more unemployed politicians
March 11th, 2013
4:41 pm
First off — all you Beauty School Dropouts may not understand the nuances of the law. I know, i know – I’m not trying to belittle your knowledge; however I find it amusing that you in turn try to belittle MINE! Just because you heard it on LimpBalls, (who’s a HS dropout), or heard that Pizza Guy Skirt chasing Idiot Savant say it on his talk show, (Who doesn’t have a law degree OR any common sense); does NOT make it true!
These people are paid entertainers — they tell you what you wanna hear. You guys should be used to this by now.
First it was the gin up to 2 wars, then it was the Mission Accomplished 11 years later, then it was the polling and that Republican Math, and NOW it’s this stuff.
Think gentlemen think! Its sort of like that time you paid that hooker all that money to say she loved you and she said it all night long. Then you ran outta money. And she ran outta love.
Haven’t you guys learned your lesson YET?
The act, as a response to the terrorist attacks of September 11th, significantly reduced restrictions in law enforcement agencies’ gathering of intelligence within the United States; expanded the Secretary of the Treasury’s authority to regulate financial transactions, particularly those involving foreign individuals and entities; and broadened the discretion of law enforcement and immigration authorities in detaining and deporting immigrants suspected of terrorism-related acts. The act also expanded the definition of terrorism to include domestic terrorism, thus enlarging the number of activities to which the USA PATRIOT Act’s expanded law enforcement powers can be applied.
Bernie
March 11th, 2013
4:43 pm
Rand Paul A DEMAGOGUE, Charlatan, a Person who fools others, A fraud and a Poor excuse For a Human Being…Period
ATL Tiger
March 11th, 2013
4:44 pm
“The act, as a response to the terrorist attacks of September 11th, significantly reduced restrictions in law enforcement agencies’ gathering of intelligence within the United States; expanded the Secretary of the Treasury’s authority to regulate financial transactions, particularly those involving foreign individuals and entities; and broadened the discretion of law enforcement and immigration authorities in detaining and deporting immigrants suspected of terrorism-related acts. The act also expanded the definition of terrorism to include domestic terrorism, thus enlarging the number of activities to which the USA PATRIOT Act’s expanded law enforcement powers can be applied.”
Sounds like the Patriot Act is all about intelligence gathering and not so much authority to kill American citizens without due process.
Thanks for making my point for me.
Welcome to the Occupation
March 11th, 2013
4:44 pm
USMC: “Not a good day for DemocRats:
Another record day on Wall St. under their guy’s watch. What’s not to like?
Kamchak ~Thug from the Steppes
March 11th, 2013
4:45 pm
Its sort of like that time you paid that hooker all that money to say she loved you and she said it all night long. Then you ran outta money. And she ran outta love.
Haven’t you guys learned your lesson YET?
The word, “no” immediately leaps to mind.
johnny davis
March 11th, 2013
4:46 pm
I see you guys love the nasty personal attacks. And we are supposed to just trust the government and it thought to the contrary is madness?
More evil has done by government than in anything else both in the history of Mankind and in America’ s history. The madness is crazy attempts to dimiss holding our government to account.
Welcome to the Occupation
March 11th, 2013
4:46 pm
Got to love the condescension here:
“Let’s start by admitting that the stunt itself was a nice piece of political stagecraft. The one-man, TV-friendly filibuster gave Paul the opportunity to play Jimmy Stewart, a lone hero standing up in defense of the Constitution. It’s the type of role that Paul covets.”
Yes, heaven forbid we besmirch our pristine democratic system with something so grubby, so of the street, as theater.
Kamchak ~Thug from the Steppes
March 11th, 2013
4:47 pm
I see you guys love the nasty personal attacks.
Ann Coulter says, “What?”
Lu
March 11th, 2013
4:48 pm
Funny, there is always an article that can’t resist spinning this into something partisan.
If you think none of this drone talk matters and it’s simply a distraction, then you forget about the 16 year old American boy that was killed in Yemen by a drone with no explanation.
There is a bigger issue here and people better wake up.
Rand Paul is the real deal. Watch and learn.
Phil
March 11th, 2013
4:51 pm
This constructive piece has advanced the discussion within our community about meaningful national policy issues. Thank you Jay for your leadership and perspective.
That Black Guy
March 11th, 2013
4:51 pm
independent thinker
March 11th, 2013
4:36 pm
Excellent article Jay.
This stunt was part of the tea bagger …
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Filed under “I wouldn’t read the rest of that shyt if you paid me” (H/T dB or Keep I think)
If you have to start you comment with name calling, you really don’t have much to say.
TBS
March 11th, 2013
4:51 pm
“Rand Paul is the real deal. Watch and learn.”
Let me guess, for Rand’s next trick he will tell us how both parties suck and are corrupt, yet he will remain a Republican long after the 1st time he says it.
Oh wait, that was his daddy’s shtick……
Kamchak ~Thug from the Steppes
March 11th, 2013
4:51 pm
Rand Paul is the real deal.
Rand Paul is Evander Holyfield?
Who knew?
moonbat betty
March 11th, 2013
4:52 pm
Funny how the libs name a new Republican candidate every week and they don’t have any of their own!
Funny how? Funny like a clown!
DebbieDoRight - What this country needs is more unemployed politicians
March 11th, 2013
4:53 pm
willieb — quick question, WHAT power grab is Obama trying to take? Under Dubya, the office of the President’s powers were expanded and ENDORSED by the governing parties.
Oh and here’s a thought — Obama already HAS power. He chooses not to use all of it — he can, but he chooses not to.
My cousin was asking me why i thought he doesn’t flaunt his power, and i told him think of Jackie Robinson.
He was the first black major league baseball player — he had to set an example. He couldn’t fight back, he couldn’t tell people what he really thought. If he did – he would’ve been the first and the LAST black baseball player.
Obama is jackie Robinson.
=====================
My point is that Senate was clearly in support of the Patriot Act, both Dems and GOP. You were just ranting how it was all GOP, when clearly Dems supported it just as much.
AND?
Hillary is licking....
March 11th, 2013
4:53 pm
…her what?
Nobama
March 11th, 2013
4:56 pm
Hillary – physical impossibility
moonbat betty
March 11th, 2013
4:57 pm
Obama is like Jackie Robinson???
Yeah, when Jackie played T-Ball!
Welcome to the Occupation
March 11th, 2013
4:57 pm
Lu: “Rand Paul is the real deal. Watch and learn.”
Whether or not he’s the “real deal” or not, is debatable. He seemed awfully quick to be placated by that second Holder statement for my tastes by the way. But the fact is that Americans should be grateful to him for putting some pressure on this administration for its outrageous and cynical continuation of the security state policies of the previous administration. Far from sufficient, but at least it forced open a space in which some little bit of discussion could take place — much to the chagrin of this administration.
JamVet
March 11th, 2013
4:58 pm
betty @4:52,
I have to wonder if Elizabeth Warren may be the next nightmare for the decaying Old White Guy Party…
(And if Rush is still mooching off of Clear Channel by then, will she be the greatest slut and prostitute of all time?)
Kamchak ~Thug from the Steppes
March 11th, 2013
4:59 pm
Funny how the libs name a new Republican candidate every week and they don’t have any of their own!
Funny how it was asserted here by several people the even Elmer Fudd could defeat Obama.
Funny how?
Looney Tunes funny!
Redneck Convert (R--and proud of it)
March 11th, 2013
5:00 pm
. . .then it was the polling and that Republican Math. . .
Well, I hope they’re firing that bunch of pollsters that had Mitt as a shoo-in for President. Making us look like a bunch of Morans. And I was all ready to go pee on the yard of one of Those People. On election night I never felt so cheated in my life.
moonbat betty
March 11th, 2013
5:00 pm
lol, Jam, there will be at least 100 more candidates before 2016 at this rate…
Erwin's cat
March 11th, 2013
5:01 pm
Funny how?
I mean funny like a clown?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E84VqqCPI7w
moonbat betty
March 11th, 2013
5:03 pm
“Looney Tunes funny!”
Yeah, funny, right?
Elmer Fudd isn’t even a real person.
Or is he?
Erwin's cat
March 11th, 2013
5:03 pm
Making us look like a bunch of Morans.
Moran:
The preferred method of spelling “moron” by morons
moonbat betty
March 11th, 2013
5:03 pm
E-cat
DebbieDoRight - What this country needs is more unemployed politicians
March 11th, 2013
5:06 pm
ATL Tiger — why not stick to what you know? I’m sure there’s a strip club somewhere near your house that is missing your patronage.
Tiger: Sounds like the Patriot Act is all about intelligence gathering and not so much authority to kill American citizens without due process.
O.k. — here’s a thought, perhaps you can comprehend it……..perhaps not.
Why not google these subjects:
**MOVE (not MoveOn.Org); Philadelphia .
**John Dillinger
**Timothy Russel Cleveland
**Tennessee V. Gardner
Google those, maybe you’ll learn something……………oh wait!……………..
TBS
March 11th, 2013
5:06 pm
moon
A quick google search brought up the blaze, dailycaller, Foxnews, usconservative, etc etc……. all opining on Democrat 2016 candidates…..
Don’t get too upset and feign too much outrage. The right is engaging in the same exact thing as both sides do each election.
JamVet
March 11th, 2013
5:07 pm
Interesting analogy between Robinson and Obama.
Both obviously endured great racial animus to get where they did.
Barack Obama shares many similarities with Jackie Robinson. He’s quiet, powerful, and often questioned. Most of all, he’s the right man in the right place at the right time.
To those who haven’t studied Robinson, he must seem like a lucky guy who came along at the right time. Robinson, though, was an intentional choice. When Brooklyn General Manager Branch Rickey targeted Robinson, he searched for a man with recognizable talent, unshakable courage, and above all, unrelenting composure.
http://tinyurl.com/b5gt57u
Tea Party Morans?
http://tinyurl.com/aytsr44
josef
March 11th, 2013
5:11 pm
Oy! You mean there are actually people out there who take this turkey seriously? That’s scary, and that’s not hyperbole. He makes Hagel look half sane and rational.
DebbieDoRight - What this country needs is more unemployed politicians
March 11th, 2013
5:11 pm
Yeah, when Jackie played T-Ball!
Hiya Moonie!!
FYI – Jackie didn’t play T-Ball!
debbiediddallas
March 11th, 2013
5:16 pm
jackie robinson would be embarassed being compared to nobama put down the bong take a nap call mellow mushroom
USMC-FoxbotAlpha
March 11th, 2013
5:18 pm
Rush Limbaugh and Fox News told me to say…
“More bad news for Comrade Jay Bookman on a rainy Monday….”
First it was:
“Ex-Detroit DemocRat mayor convicted, jailed until sentence
http://www.ajc.com/news/ap/crime/verdict-in-ex-detroit-mayor-corruption-trial/nWnt9/
NOW it is:
“Judge strikes down NYC sugary-drinks size rule”
http://www.ajc.com/ap/ap/top-news/judge-strikes-down-nyc-sugary-drinks-size-rule/nWpFB/
Not a good day for DemocRats.
josef
March 11th, 2013
5:19 pm
BTW
There’s a new study due out mid month, and right now I can’t remember the title and authors, on Roosevelt and the Jews. It’s causing a bit of stir among those who are interested in revisiting the era and what coulda. woulda, shoulda been done.
josef
March 11th, 2013
5:21 pm
USMC
NYC softdrinks…is the mayor of NYC a Democrat?
JamVet
March 11th, 2013
5:24 pm
Obviously his indoctrination classes did not help him much, josef!
josef
March 11th, 2013
5:26 pm
ZamVET
Who? Not following that one…
JamVet
March 11th, 2013
5:29 pm
The ex-Marine, he said his absence was due to them!
josef
March 11th, 2013
5:30 pm
ZamVET
Gotcha! Evidently not…
Fred ™
March 11th, 2013
5:37 pm
Obama is like Jackie Robinson???
Yeah, when Jackie played T-Ball!
Awesome. Double thumbs up lol.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=04KQydlJ-qc
josef
March 11th, 2013
5:38 pm
DDR
There is a certain logic to what you say about Jackie Robinson and Obama.
Donovan
March 11th, 2013
5:39 pm
STOP THE PRESS! Another challenge to the liberal nation of lunatics.
Danger! Danger! We must destroy. We must rally the troops to another threat to our Democrat power in Washington.
Senator Paul might start something that we might not be able to control. He might start persuading the dumbed-down low informational voters that he makes sense about a lot of things. He seems to have a clear way of speaking the truth that we try so hard to conceal.
What a minute…who has tapped into our minds on this web site?
Fred ™
March 11th, 2013
5:39 pm
Not a good day for DemocRats.
Why? Bloomberg is a Republican isn’t he?
Welcome to the Occupation
March 11th, 2013
5:41 pm
Does Jay Bookman ever write a column without analyzing it in terms of what it means for the Republican party?
Liberals often appear to have no grounding whatsoever in actual issues. All they can bring themselves to do is hold their nose over the hated Republicans (while quietly being in league with them on a wide range of issues).
stonecool
March 11th, 2013
5:46 pm
Good thing nobody really cares what you say bookman!
Ken
March 11th, 2013
5:46 pm
You made it with a community nobody !!!!!!!!!!
Welcome to the Occupation
March 11th, 2013
5:47 pm
USMC: “Not a good day for DemocRats”
Another record day on Wall St. under their guy’s watch. Profits soaring. What’s not for them to like?
josef
March 11th, 2013
5:48 pm
STONECOOL
Really? The Hubbard Daily News pays him handsomely for what he has to say, and folks like me and you come in to see what it is he’s saying…jus’ sayin’
Kamchak ~Thug from the Steppes
March 11th, 2013
5:48 pm
How do the SONS OF CONFEDERATE VETERANS! view Rand Paul?
lewis swanson
March 11th, 2013
5:48 pm
If the state of Kentucky can’t elect better senators than Paul and McConnell,they should succeed from the union.
Keep Up the Good Fight!
March 11th, 2013
5:48 pm
Oh goody. A sockpuppet parade has just started. I can hear the Benny Hill music.
JamVet
March 11th, 2013
5:49 pm
He seems to have a clear way of speaking the truth that we try so hard to conceal.
Examples? (Seeming or otherwise?)
josef
March 11th, 2013
5:51 pm
lewis swanson
“they should succeed from the union.”
Nothing secedes like success, eh?
TM
March 11th, 2013
5:51 pm
He got what he wanted. Publish the second letter from Holder after he did his thing and compare to his first. Which answer do you like. Why didn’t Holder say that in the first place. Holder and the pres could have avoided this but chose not to and were shamed to admit they were wrong
Vast Right Wing Conspiracy (aka "Knuckle-Dragger")
March 11th, 2013
5:51 pm
Somebody from the party of Pelosi, Reid, the supreme leader, etc., etc., etc., talking about “nuts” is rich. Guam “capsizing”, losing “170 million” jobs, virtually anything Biden has to say, ad nauseum. On the other hand, democrats may be experts concerning “nuts” – its all you’ve got.
td
March 11th, 2013
5:53 pm
Fred ™
March 11th, 2013
5:39 pm
Not a good day for DemocRats.
Why? Bloomberg is a Republican isn’t he?
Bloomberg is an idiot. He was a Democrat then he was a Republican and now he is an independent.You want to take a guess about the party affiliation of the city council members?
Keep Up the Good Fight!
March 11th, 2013
5:53 pm
Publish the second letter from Holder after he did his thing
Someone did not read the article.
td
March 11th, 2013
5:54 pm
independent thinker
March 11th, 2013
6:39 pm
Most important part of Kristol’s rant about Paul:
“”””””””Frum worries that Paul’s moment of glory suggests that “the Republican party used to be the party more serious about defending America. Now it provides a home to those more doubtful that America is worth defending.” We trust that Republicans are still serious about defending America. And while Obama’s a bad president, and America’s got many problems, it isn’t, as Paul sometimes seemed to suggest, hurtling towards tyranny.”””””””””””””””””
How many more disgruntled veterans like Timothy McVeigh and Lee Harvey Oswals are going to follow the misguided patriots Paul and Cruz are appealing to and try to overthrow the government or cause domestic terrorism? Keep telling them the Black Messiah is coming after the right with drones and you will see more loons committing acts of Terrorism. At least McCain stood up to these wack jobs.”
There is going to be plenty of talk about taking guns first, then the drones, 1.6 billion rounds of ammo bought by DHS and the 2700 tanks bought by DHS.
td
March 11th, 2013
5:55 pm
Kamchak ~Thug from the Steppes
March 11th, 2013
5:48 pm
How do the SONS OF CONFEDERATE VETERANS! view Rand Paul?
Who cares?
Are you still crying about the fact that Rand Paul thinks the Civil Rights act was unconstitutional?
USMC-FoxbotAlpha
March 11th, 2013
5:55 pm
“The ex-Marine, he said his absence was due to them!”- Mr. Jamvet
No, I just got out if Political Reducation Camp in the People’s Republic of California.
I am trying to think like a good little socialist, but the “common sense” thing kicks in and cannot overcome it.
josef
March 11th, 2013
5:56 pm
td
The Sons of Confederate Veterans is a gris-gris…just so you’ll know…
Southern Cracker
March 11th, 2013
5:56 pm
I hear that for their next performance Paul and Cruz are going to drop their trousers and moon the Democrats in the Senate.
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
March 11th, 2013
5:58 pm
Are you still crying about the fact that Rand Paul thinks the Civil Rights act was unconstitutional?
Perhaps you can show a post of mine where I stated anything at all about Rand Paul and the Civil Rights act.
Thanks in advance, sport.
USMC-FoxbotAlpha
March 11th, 2013
5:58 pm
“If Socialist philosophy is your party’s future, it has no future”
ex-see Detroit, Michigan
Fred ™
March 11th, 2013
5:58 pm
<i.Good thing nobody really cares what you say bookman!
Why do you have to lie? You not only cared enough to click on his column but you love him so much and care so much you logged in so you could COMMENT.
You silly little Foxbots. You are such cute little fellers when you tell them whoppers.
Halftrack
March 11th, 2013
5:59 pm
Ron Paul may not make it; But his principles will. This is what many GOP’ers want. Someone to speak up for principles of Freedom and the way the Constitution spell it out.
django
March 11th, 2013
6:00 pm
Jay do you honestly think with the direction obama is taking this country that it will help the dem party? LOL… House dems are already distancing themselves from him because he’s glaringly incompetent. Senate dems will follow suit especially the one’s with tough re-election chances.
clem
March 11th, 2013
6:00 pm
he’s got a few screws loose like his dad
Fred ™
March 11th, 2013
6:01 pm
You want to take a guess about the party affiliation of the city council members?
Well i could guess. Or I could do some research and find out. Or I could just be like you and lie if it suits my purposes…………
I chose none of the above. I don’t guess, I don’t care enough to do research, and I don’t lie.
DoggoneGA
March 11th, 2013
6:02 pm
“Why didn’t Holder say that in the first place.”
He did. It’s not Holder’s fault Rand Paul doesn’t understand the written word.
josef
March 11th, 2013
6:03 pm
DJANGO
I see you still haven’t….
JamVet
March 11th, 2013
6:03 pm
…but the “common sense” thing kicks in and cannot overcome it.
Which explains why you thought Bloomberg was a Democrat though he hasn’t been one in twelve years.
If that is your idea of the common sense thing, you need a LOT more Reducation. (LOL at your semi-literate spelling attempts…)
independent thinker
March 11th, 2013
6:03 pm
Holder is to be commended for setting this clown up to make a fool out of himself because he did not get the right answer to his question from Holder. The more Ted Cruz and Ron Paul act like spoiled brats on a filed trip, the more the voters will get fed up with the stupid party and tea baggers.
Fred ™
March 11th, 2013
6:03 pm
Oh and HEY USMC!!!!!!!!!! Glad to see you back you crusty old fart knocker you. Have a beer on me. Or ten. Let’s go get crap faced and howl at the moon.
josef
March 11th, 2013
6:04 pm
CLEM
A few? You’re way too kind…
Fred ™
March 11th, 2013
6:05 pm
White House tours and sugary soft drinks………
Obama better watch out, looks like the Republicans really have him by the balls now……..
josef
March 11th, 2013
6:05 pm
USMC
BTW, good to see you back…missed you…
barking frog
March 11th, 2013
6:07 pm
USMC did you repeal the USA Patriot Act ?
td
March 11th, 2013
6:07 pm
Fred ™
March 11th, 2013
6:01 pm
You want to take a guess about the party affiliation of the city council members?
Well i could guess. Or I could do some research and find out. Or I could just be like you and lie if it suits my purposes…………
I chose none of the above. I don’t guess, I don’t care enough to do research, and I don’t lie.
Your whole philosophical being is a lie so you lie every moment of every day. You are just fooling yourself to think others are lying.
josef
March 11th, 2013
6:09 pm
FROG
@ 6:07
Not one and the same…but funny nonetheless!
barking frog
March 11th, 2013
6:10 pm
josef
clones.
josef
March 11th, 2013
6:10 pm
TD
May I suggest that you put some kind of break between the quote from the poster you’re responding to and your response? It makes you hard to follow sometimes…
Kamchak ~Thug from the Steppes
March 11th, 2013
6:10 pm
Fred
Looks like you got another one of these.
josef
March 11th, 2013
6:12 pm
FROG
Could be…
josef
March 11th, 2013
6:13 pm
K’CHAK
Fred do seem to draw them…
Fred ™
March 11th, 2013
6:14 pm
Your whole philosophical being is a lie so you lie every moment of every day. You are just fooling yourself to think others are lying.
LOL that is too funny. The self admitted liar has nothing to say so he uses a lot of nonsense words to say it. Sweet.
Thanks pal I guess lol.
Fred ™
March 11th, 2013
6:16 pm
Kam: That is a hilarious video.
josef: I DO don’t I? You missed it earlier. I think it was in the last thread. td admitted to lying whenever it suited his purposes. “Stretching it” I think he termed it………..
td
March 11th, 2013
6:17 pm
I have explained to Fred once already that I will not be bullied. If he wants to debate in a nice manner then great. If he wants to be a smartass then I will come back the same way.
If he does not like it he can either leave the boards, learn to be respectful or kiss my a$$. Any of the three is fine with me.
Jose79845
March 11th, 2013
6:18 pm
The two hot issues according to internet search data are guns and marijuana. As long as the GOP stays focused on the hot issues and not get distracted by the Hillary trolls, the GOP will win with Rand Paul.
kayaker 71
March 11th, 2013
6:20 pm
It is folly at this point to set Rand Paul as a presidential candidate. I am sure that he doesn’t expect to be viewed in this light and he has never said that he aspires to be president. Bookman puts words in the mouths of Republicans on a regular basis. We can select our own candidate…. we don’t need some liberal mouthpiece to do it for us.
Keep Up the Good Fight!
March 11th, 2013
6:20 pm
If he wants to be a smartass then I will come back the same way.
Seems to be a common buffoon retort for those with the initials “td”….. always blame another poster for their actions instead of being the poster they want to be.
Could the smoking common thread be the mushroom thread?
Keep Up the Good Fight!
March 11th, 2013
6:22 pm
Why is that Kam so sexist that he leaves out the Daughters of Confederate Veterans?
Dave
March 11th, 2013
6:23 pm
“It is a nonsensical, ridiculous issue.” I thought that drone attacks on U.S. citizens outside our borders other than in the heat of battle was just that. It appears that I was wrong.
Yes Paul is a bit of a loon; but, what Obama seems to like in the way of foreign policy bears more of a resemblance to his predecessor than I’m comfortable with.
barking frog
March 11th, 2013
6:24 pm
Is the Rand Paul filibuster ending ?
Kamchak ~Thug from the Steppes
March 11th, 2013
6:25 pm
Keep
Guilty as charged, but in my defense, I was only told about the mojo that SOCV! has.
DoggoneGA
March 11th, 2013
6:26 pm
“what Obama seems to like in the way of foreign policy bears more of a resemblance to his predecessor than I’m comfortable with.”
Yeah, well…that’s the problem with trying to make the Presidency a “Unitary” position…it carries over to the next guy, whether you like it or not.
Fred ™
March 11th, 2013
6:28 pm
I have explained to Fred once already that I will not be bullied. If he wants to debate in a nice manner then great. If he wants to be a smartass then I will come back the same way.
If he does not like it he can either leave the boards, learn to be respectful or kiss my a$$. Any of the three is fine with me.
LOl He’s crying now and making stuff up (lying again). Point out the bullying. no one is doing anything other than laughing at you and your ridiculous distortions of truth. You get the respect you desire which is none. I told you earlier, your lying has destroyed yur credibility. Your emotional, irrational posts like the one above destroy any though one might have of taking you seriously.
Oh and what is an a$$? Is that what a male prostitute calls his ass?
F. Sinkwich
March 11th, 2013
6:29 pm
After a few days dark, how does Jay and his cast of clueless collectivists celebrate their renewed platform for dullard dialogue? By trashing some back-bench Senator, that’s how. How about some real news:
“On Friday, the United States Department of Agriculture quietly released new statistics related to the food stamps program, officially known as SNAP (the Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program). The numbers reveal, in 2012, the food stamps program was the biggest it´s ever been, with an average of 46,609,072 people on the program every month of last year. 47,791,996 people were on the program in the month of December 2012.”
Wow. And here I thought that O’bozo fixed everything. Oh wait, that stat represents a victory for him! He measures his success by the number of people dependent upon the welfare state, in stark contrast to conservatives, who measure success by the number of people who don’t need it.
But then again, dependency = O’bozo voters.
Got it.
Fred ™
March 11th, 2013
6:29 pm
The two hot issues according to internet search data are guns and marijuana. As long as the GOP stays focused on the hot issues and not get distracted by the Hillary trolls, the GOP will win with Rand Paul.
You already posted that once troll and got no bites………. are you going to repost your other 4 posts as well? Maybe you orter back away from the bong for a little bit.
Jose79845
March 11th, 2013
6:30 pm
If the GOP puts another marijuana prohibitionist who kisses Israel’s behind every day they will lose again, and again, and again, and again, …
TBS
March 11th, 2013
6:31 pm
kayaker
Are you sure what Rand Paul has said or not said regarding a run in 2016?
http://www.politico.com/story/2013/03/rand-paul-seriously-weighing-2016-bid-88611.html
kayaker 71
March 11th, 2013
6:31 pm
And one more thing, Bookman…… when you begin to grasp the mood of the half of the electorate that didn’t vote for this narcissistic buffoon that you continually fall on the knees for, you might just begin to see almost half of America that thinks that your savior is nothing more than a liberal idiot who is intent on destroying this country as we know it. If Rand Paul represents even a tad of common sense aimed at restoring this country to what it should be, a lot of us would support him. We don’t want to live in an Obama America and we will not rest until this clown is removed from govt housing and sent back to Chicago to wallow in that liberal sewer along with all of his liberal friends. Bookman, you underestimate the tenacity of the conservative voter. All liberals so. We are here and we are not going away. You can demonize us, vilify our aims, call us names but we will prevail. Count on it.
Kamchak ~Thug from the Steppes
March 11th, 2013
6:32 pm
RECORD 47,791,996 ON FOOD STAMPS…
Fourth time drudgey spam.
Fred ™
March 11th, 2013
6:32 pm
Thanks for the old news Mr. Sinkwich. That was already discussed……
TBS
March 11th, 2013
6:33 pm
POLITICO in an interview that he was “seriously” considering running for president in 2016.
Read more: http://www.politico.com/story/2013/03/rand-paul-seriously-weighing-2016-bid-88611.html#ixzz2NH0KYuuk
Jose79845
March 11th, 2013
6:33 pm
Take a little bit of drug war McCain, add some “tooth and nail” Romney, and maybe you can cough up something that resembles Christee.
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
March 11th, 2013
6:34 pm
4.7 Quake Reported in Anza
It happened along the San Jacinto fault between the San Andreas and the Elsinore faults
Fred ™
March 11th, 2013
6:34 pm
Here ya go Jose78945, this is just for you:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UyY-6oh0Ow8
DoggoneGA
March 11th, 2013
6:37 pm
“After a few days dark”
do you come to that lack of empathy naturally…or do you have to practice it?
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
March 11th, 2013
6:38 pm
You can demonize us, vilify our aims, call us names but we will prevail. Count on it.
Blogger who said, “These people are not even out of the trees”, says “What?”
independent thinker
March 11th, 2013
6:39 pm
Most important part of Kristol’s rant about Paul:
“”"”"”"”Frum worries that Paul’s moment of glory suggests that “the Republican party used to be the party more serious about defending America. Now it provides a home to those more doubtful that America is worth defending.” We trust that Republicans are still serious about defending America. And while Obama’s a bad president, and America’s got many problems, it isn’t, as Paul sometimes seemed to suggest, hurtling towards tyranny.”"”"”"”"”"”"”"”"”
How many more disgruntled veterans like Timothy McVeigh and Lee Harvey Oswals are going to follow the misguided patriots Paul and Cruz are appealing to and try to overthrow the government or cause domestic terrorism? Keep telling them the Black Messiah is coming after the right with drones and you will see more loons committing acts of Terrorism. At least McCain stood up to these wack jobs.
JamVet
March 11th, 2013
6:39 pm
Will the other Kentucky turtle be challenged by a fox?
Ashley Judd Senate Declaration May Be Near
Gawd knows she couldn’t be any worse than that old screw up…
http://www.newsmax.com/Politics/judd-mcconell-senate-kentucky/2013/03/11/id/494088
USMC-FoxbotAlpha
March 11th, 2013
6:39 pm
“Oh and HEY USMC!!!!!!!!!! Glad to see you back you crusty old fart knocker you. Have a beer on me. Or ten. Let’s go get crap faced and howl at the moon.”–Fred “TM”
Hey Fred, we gotta go get that beer or few and fix all of the worlds problems.
getalife
March 11th, 2013
6:40 pm
“You can demonize us, vilify our aims, call us names but we will prevail. Count on it.”
I count of four more years of this whining.
Good bloggin times.
F. Sinkwich
March 11th, 2013
6:41 pm
“Thanks for the old news Mr. Sinkwich. That was already discussed……”
Yep. Doesn’t matter. Nothing to see here. Economy sux? Old news. Not O’bozo’s fault. Bush!
Got it.
Jay’s blog, after all. Go figure.
TBS
March 11th, 2013
6:42 pm
get
Especially from the one who loves to call names and proclaimed over and over “Bookman and you liberals, Romney will have 320 electoral votes…… count on it”
USMC-FoxbotAlpha
March 11th, 2013
6:43 pm
Today on the Rush Limbaugh Show, Rush told us that:
RECORD: 47,791,996 Americans (and Illegals) ON FOOD STAMPS…
http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/46609072-people-food-stamps-2012_706745.html
Rush even made us buy a bumper sticker that reads:
“Obama: The Foodstamp President”
(btw: Rush said since I am ordering the Bumper sticker today, he is waiving the postage!)
Jose79845
March 11th, 2013
6:44 pm
Fred, Legalize or Lose
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5K5LicZzX8Q
Fred ™
March 11th, 2013
6:44 pm
USMC: That would be a hoot. Think we can get Moonbat Betty to join us?
Ekko Chamber
March 11th, 2013
6:45 pm
Coming from the same clowns who had NO PROBLEM with Bush’s broad wiretapping powers.
Perhaps the right wing needs to eat their own words for a change: “If you’ve got nothing to hide, you stand no chance of being droned”.
USMC-FoxbotAlpha
March 11th, 2013
6:45 pm
“NYC softdrinks…is the mayor of NYC a Democrat?”–Headmaster Jonix
As usual, Josef raps my knuckles with the yard stick.
getalife
March 11th, 2013
6:45 pm
Both,
They are setting a new low for sore losers.
It took usmc 3 months to even show up after losing unless he used other names.
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
March 11th, 2013
6:45 pm
RECORD: 47,791,996 Americans (and Illegals) ON FOOD STAMPS…
drudgey spam fifth time, twice by you.
Been drinking 420s all day at The Yacht Club, have you?
TBS
March 11th, 2013
6:46 pm
“(btw: Rush said since I am ordering the Bumper sticker today, he is waiving the postage!)”
This week only, he is also throwing in a “Romney received the real 47%” t shirt
USMC-FoxbotAlpha
March 11th, 2013
6:48 pm
“USMC: That would be a hoot. Think we can get Moonbat Betty to join us?”–Fred “TM”
Yeah, you can even bring Kamchatka along, but I bet he has no balls.
F. Sinkwich
March 11th, 2013
6:48 pm
“How many more disgruntled veterans like Timothy McVeigh and Lee Harvey Oswals”
Huh? So the military is at fault? Oh, that’s right. They pretty much hate them.
USMC-FoxbotAlpha
March 11th, 2013
6:49 pm
“Been drinking 420s all day at The Yacht Club, have you?”–Kamchatka
Well, then again, may be he does.
TBS
March 11th, 2013
6:49 pm
get
Seems like it comes and goes with the ODS. It subsides for some while others are in a “fevered” pitch all the time.
I believe USMC might have been here a time or 10 (but I could be wrong)…………… puppets and such………
like a few others since the election
appleseed
March 11th, 2013
6:49 pm
That I would like to see Fred kissing your a$$.You would have to be a contortionist.
Fred ™
March 11th, 2013
6:50 pm
Jose79845: You smoke all you want, but if you watch THIS video, I promis you will NEVER smoke weed with Willie:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hg_4DGiFHOQ
F. Sinkwich
March 11th, 2013
6:51 pm
Lib ilks, that is…
USMC-FoxbotAlpha
March 11th, 2013
6:51 pm
“RECORD: 47,791,996 Americans (and Illegals) ON FOOD STAMPS…
drudgey spam fifth time, twice by you.”–Kamchatka
Some of you Bolsheviks need to hear it 10 times a day to get it through your thick skulls.:-)
Plus RUSH LIMBAUGH told us to keep repeating it.
JamVet
March 11th, 2013
6:53 pm
Huh? So McVeigh and Oswald are Sink’s heroes? Oh, that’s right. He pretty much loves them.
getalife
March 11th, 2013
6:55 pm
Fred,
toby can’t handle medical weed because he does not smoke weed that much.
My Dad in Vegas decided he wanted to try it and I had some high grade Hawaiian weed.
He passed out and said he did not like it.
YouLibs
March 11th, 2013
6:56 pm
Kamchak
I really appreciate that link @ 6:38.
We get vilified for “playing the race card” all the time when we speak to what is so apparent, but this is just so naked. I think it should go viral, but I don’t really know how.
Anyone?
USMC-FoxbotAlpha
March 11th, 2013
6:57 pm
“If Marcia Fudge is your party’s future, it has no future”–
http://www.rollcall.com/members/29509.html
Congressional Black Caucus Chair Rips Obama for White Cabinet Picks…
http://cdn.rollcall.com/news/cbcs_fudge_escalates_push_for_obama_cabinet_diversity-223009-1.html?popular=true&pos=hln&cdn_load=true&zkPrintable=1&nopagination=1
I guess she didn’t get the “judge on content of character and not on color of skin” memo….
(That’s what Rush taught us to say on today’s show)
Fred ™
March 11th, 2013
6:58 pm
Hey get, here is the song lol. I’ve seen that interview a few times but never heard teh song. Willie joins Toby and Scott Emerick (never heard of him) on this version.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wDQANmQO2g0
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
March 11th, 2013
6:59 pm
Plus RUSH LIMBAUGH told us to keep repeating it.
Dittoheads.
“Fat drunk and stupid is no way to go through life, son.”
– Thomas “Dean Vernon Wormer” Jefferson
F. Sinkwich
March 11th, 2013
6:59 pm
“(That’s what Rush taught us to say on today’s show)” **
** KammieSpam. All rights reserved.
Brosephus™
March 11th, 2013
7:00 pm
Jerome @ 3:13
That rule change was supposed to make things easier for TSA to concentrate on explosives detection. Instead, they’ve confused the hell out of most everyone else outside of TSA. Based on what I know, it’s not a very bad idea per se, but they shouldn’t have changed things at all if you ask me. Nobody needs a knife on a plane, even if it only has a 1″ blade.
————–
Class of ‘98 @ 3:37
SIX-HUNDRED AND SIX federal job openings were posted the same day they closed the White House for tours.
Did you see the SENATE jobs that were also psosted on Sequester day? Did you bother to see whether those job postings were for NEW jobs or were they internal job postings for things such as promotions, transfers, and such? Seems that one would take an extra minute to consider all the possibilites before assuming things. Seems that most people will feast on information that meets their narrative without even checking to see whether it’s factual or not.
————–
ATL Tiger @ 4:14
This fillibuster wasn’t about drones, this fillibuster was about exposing another President and it’s Administration abusing power not granted to them in the Constitution.
Constitution of the United States Article II Section 1:
Before he enter on the Execution of his Office, he shall take the following Oath or Affirmation:
“I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will faithfully execute the Office of President of the United States, and will to the best of my Ability, preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States.”
So, it seems as though the Constitution, via the Founding Fathers, saw fit to give the President the obligation to preserve, protect, and defend the Constitution, but nowhere did they place limits on what tools or options he could use to defend it. Nor did they place any special requirement that he could not defend it at home against citizens who turned enemy to the Constitution.
————–
DDR @ 5:06
**Tennessee V. Gardner
Dropping a bit of knowledge, aren’t we?
Real Scootter
March 11th, 2013
7:00 pm
getalife,
I told you Jay would poke the hornet’s nest when he got back! Hope you are having fun now.
Jackie
March 11th, 2013
7:02 pm
Please don’t forget Paul Ryan and Marco Rubio.
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
March 11th, 2013
7:02 pm
YouLibs
That was just a snapshot. Scroll around on that particular thread. He doubled and tripled down on teh stoopid.
getalife
March 11th, 2013
7:02 pm
Fred,
I would smoke weed with Willie again and again and again…..
F. Sinkwich
March 11th, 2013
7:02 pm
“The cloudy gun is a smokey mushroom.” **
** KammieSpam. All rights reserved.
appleseed
March 11th, 2013
7:03 pm
Story goes some dudes wife left him.Each time they made love he would say Obama.All time she thought he was saying o mama.Last time he was up late on his computers,comes to bed,wakes her to make love.She fakes it,and well hears him say Obama.Of course this is just local rumor.
getalife
March 11th, 2013
7:04 pm
Scooter,
“I told you Jay would poke the hornet’s nest when he got back! Hope you are having fun now.
”
Yuo, you nailed it.
getalife
March 11th, 2013
7:04 pm
Yup.
godless heathen - owner of many things he does not need
March 11th, 2013
7:06 pm
He might be a bit of a nut, but he’s our bit of a nut.
And this ain’t over. Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor? Hell, no!
Welcome to the Occupation
March 11th, 2013
7:07 pm
Sinkwich: “Yep. Doesn’t matter. Nothing to see here. Economy sux? Old news. Not O’bozo’s fault. Bush!”
Wait. The economy sucks? You been following the stock market? Corporate profits? Those certainly don’t “suck”, at least for those invested in those things.
“Wow. And here I thought that O’bozo fixed everything”
Well, he’s certain restored the soaring profits of Wall St., hasn’t he? Got a problem with that Sinkwich?
Keep Up the Good Fight!
March 11th, 2013
7:08 pm
Least Popular Pope Names
Fred ™
March 11th, 2013
7:09 pm
From your link Jamvet:
When asked if she was tough enough to tackle McConnell, Judd reportedly answered, “I have been raped twice, so I think I can handle Mitch McConnell.”
Hmmmmmm and she said three times at George Washington University. I would think that one of those things you would KNOW and not have to guess about.
http://www.motherjones.com/mojo/2013/03/ashley-judd-dc-im-three-time-rape-survivor
Keep Up the Good Fight!
March 11th, 2013
7:09 pm
Welcome, well you know with all them soaring profits, we are being trickled on daily.
Kamchak ~Thug from the Steppes
March 11th, 2013
7:09 pm
O’bozo**
**Witchie-poo spam. All rights reserved.
kayaker 71
March 11th, 2013
7:10 pm
Kamchak,
The truth sometimes hurts. Again, I stated that some still belong in trees, only referring to that Black Panther thug who gave a rather inspired speech to those who would listen on killing white babies. Where is your indignation? That idiot does belong in a tree and not in a civilized society. But his is given a pass because he is black. No one says anything. No one even gave it a passing glance. Where is your indignation? Or do you think that he is right? Perhaps liberals like you believe that white babies should die just because this idiot says so. And what would have happened if some white guy stood before a crowd and stated that he wanted all of those who listened to kill black babies? Our politically correct society would have not rested until this guy was either dead or in the slammer. Again, where is your indignation? The double standard resounds. Can’t you hear it?
godless heathen - owner of many things he does not need
March 11th, 2013
7:11 pm
Keep: I didn’t know Weird Uncle Glen was even in the running.
I hope they pick the Canadian. Could you imagine curling at the Vatican?
YouLibs
March 11th, 2013
7:13 pm
Appleseed
I think you might have some kind of seed stuck under your space bar.
Blue Dog
March 11th, 2013
7:13 pm
Jay, as someone who agrees with you 99% of the time I couldn’t disagree with you more. Like it or not the Constitution states that “No person.. shall be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law.” It is not a matter of policy as Holder’s letter stated, it is a matter of whether we follow the Constitution or whether we allow ourselves to be part of a mob mentality that says “hellz yeah, let’s kill us some terrists. What’d they do? I don’t know but I’m sure it was bad.”
getalife
March 11th, 2013
7:13 pm
kay,
Racist.
Kamchak ~Thug from the Steppes
March 11th, 2013
7:13 pm
Our politically correct society…
1990s era Bill Maher called, said he wanted his talking point back.
F. Sinkwich
March 11th, 2013
7:14 pm
“You been following the stock market? ”
Is that your response to the 8 million or so folks who had jobs that no longer exist since O’bozo was coronated?
Must make them feel much better…
Brosephus™
March 11th, 2013
7:14 pm
td: 1.6 billion rounds of ammo bought by DHS
Please don’t tell me you’re one of those BP Agent Terry/Fast and Furious crybabies too? Geez, Border Patrol’s doing their jobs with handguns fighting against drug smugglers armed with automatic rifles. Why do you think DHS bought up rifles and ammo? Alex Jones has you wrapped around his finger. I bet you’ve bought every single dvd he has for sale.
————–
Kamchak @ 6:10
godless heathen - owner of many things he does not need
March 11th, 2013
7:14 pm
Hmmmmmm and she said three times at George Washington University. I would think that one of those things you would KNOW and not have to guess about.
Same guy?:
godless heathen - owner of many things he does not need
March 11th, 2013
7:14 pm
Hmmmmmm and she said three times at George Washington University. I would think that one of those things you would KNOW and not have to guess about.
Same guy?
Keep Up the Good Fight!
March 11th, 2013
7:15 pm
godless, I was disappointed that Elmer Fudd did not get on the list either but maybe we need the expanded 100 list.
Curling would be better than horseshoes.
Fred ™
March 11th, 2013
7:15 pm
getalife: My lungs won’t handle it any more. I can smoke NOTHING. (dammit)
Welcome to the Occupation
March 11th, 2013
7:15 pm
Sinkwich: “Is that your response to the 8 million or so folks who had jobs that no longer exist since O’bozo was coronated?”
What are you a commie or something?
josef
March 11th, 2013
7:16 pm
TBS
USMC is many things, but he’s not a sock puppet…
Jackie
March 11th, 2013
7:16 pm
@Kayaker
If the Black Panther belongs in trees, when did you get out of your cave, Neanderthal?
Brosephus™
March 11th, 2013
7:18 pm
That was just a snapshot. Scroll around on that particular thread. He doubled and tripled down on teh stoopid.
That was more like stooopid. You need an extra “o” in there.
Jackie
March 11th, 2013
7:19 pm
@Kayaer
Better yet, how did they manage to scrape “whale gravy” like you up?
F. Sinkwich
March 11th, 2013
7:19 pm
“What are you a commie or something?”
Nope. But you knew that.
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
March 11th, 2013
7:19 pm
USMC is many things, but he’s not a sock puppet…
Yeah, he is.
Real Scootter
March 11th, 2013
7:20 pm
Welcome, well you know with all them soaring profits, we are being trickled on daily.
At least it is warm Keep!
Fred ™
March 11th, 2013
7:20 pm
Curling would be better than horseshoes.
Bite me. Horseshoes rock. I see I can cross YOU off Fred’s 4th of July US Birthday bash BBQ and Horse shoe festival………
td
March 11th, 2013
7:20 pm
Brosephus™
March 11th, 2013
7:14 pm
td: 1.6 billion rounds of ammo bought by DHS
Please don’t tell me you’re one of those BP Agent Terry/Fast and Furious crybabies too? Geez, Border Patrol’s doing their jobs with handguns fighting against drug smugglers armed with automatic rifles. Why do you think DHS bought up rifles and ammo? Alex Jones has you wrapped around his finger. I bet you’ve bought every single dvd he has for sale.
Who is Alex Jones? All I know is the US military only used 70 million rounds per year in the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan.
td
March 11th, 2013
7:22 pm
Fred ™
March 11th, 2013
7:20 pm
Curling would be better than horseshoes.
Bite me. Horseshoes rock. I see I can cross YOU off Fred’s 4th of July US Birthday bash BBQ and Horse shoe festival………
I thought people like you only celebrated May day.
josef
March 11th, 2013
7:23 pm
K’CHAK
Well, I defer to you on that, you being the expert there.
F. Sinkwich
March 11th, 2013
7:23 pm
“DETROIT- Former Detroit Mayor Kwame Kilpatrick, once seen as a rising star in Democratic Party politics, was convicted on Monday on two dozen federal charges of corruption and bribery during his seven year tenure.”
Rand Paul!
Oh, just another loser Dem thug. Nothing to see here. Move along…
Fred ™
March 11th, 2013
7:23 pm
I thought people like you only celebrated May day.
I guess that’s an insult but it’s so vague and stupid who would know. You lost me when you said you thought…….
Fred ™
March 11th, 2013
7:26 pm
Oh, just another loser Dem thug. Nothing to see here. Move along…
I’d rather see a Democratic thug on the streets than the many Republican child molesters…….
http://armchairsubversive.blogspot.com/
getalife
March 11th, 2013
7:26 pm
“getalife: My lungs won’t handle it any more. I can smoke NOTHING. ”
Sorry to hear that.
Jose79845
March 11th, 2013
7:26 pm
Fred, thanks for the warning. It sounds like Willie laced it with horse tranquilizer (pcp) or some such thing.
Jackie
March 11th, 2013
7:27 pm
@Sinkwich
I wish the same truism “do the time if you do the time” were applied to Wall Street.
Mr. Kilpatrick was convicted of the crime, he will spend some time with the Feds.
Keep Up the Good Fight!
March 11th, 2013
7:29 pm
Come on Fred, live dangerously. Time to go for the lawn darts!
Brosephus™
March 11th, 2013
7:29 pm
All I know is the US military only used 70 million rounds per year in the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan.
And what do you know about DHS?
- Number of officers in DHS?
- How many armed officers in DHS?
- How many times do those officers have to requalify on firearms?
- What firearms are they required to qualify with?
- What is the course of fire for qualification?
- How many rounds are shot during qualifications?
- How many rounds are shot in academy training?
When you understand those things, you’d have a better understanding of DHS’s purchase. Instead, you let the fear mongers do your thinking for you like DHS really wants your scrawny ass.
getalife
March 11th, 2013
7:29 pm
Jose,
Nah, Toby’s tolerance was really low.
It was good weed so if Willie smoked some cheap Mexican weed, Toby could have handled it better.
Fred ™
March 11th, 2013
7:31 pm
Keep: I can do lawn darts lol.
Give me a call sometime. We need to do lunch. I’ll make YOU drive down into the city this time lol.
Kaiser Soicher
March 11th, 2013
7:31 pm
Rand Paul is crazier than a bag of cats. He reminds me of Greg Stilson from the Dead Zone. Do you really want his finger on the nuclear trigger? I didn’t think so.
Jackie
March 11th, 2013
7:31 pm
@Sinkwich
Should have read “do the time if you do the crime”
kayaker 71
March 11th, 2013
7:32 pm
Jackie, 7:19,
Where is your indignation? Kamchak hasn’t told me yet. I would assume that you are so far up the liberal spectrum that anything that represents common sense or pragmatic thought is beyond you. Is anyone free to spew this invective rhetoric without being held accountable for it? Are we free to say anything without being held accountable? I suppose that things like this don’t bother you. You just pass it off as another “disadvantaged, misunderstood” American who is free to say anything he pleases and not have his words taken to heart. He really means it. He is so full of hate for white America that if given the chance, I am sure that he would certainly make good his wishes. It happens every day in Atlanta, Chicago, LA, Detroit….. take your pick. Are you so blind that the double standard just hasn’t rapped you in the arse yet? Or are you black so that most everything that anyone says or does can be ignored? Which is it, Jackie?
Fred ™
March 11th, 2013
7:33 pm
Damn Brocephus, I never thought about that. When I was in Iraq we NEVER qualified or went to live fire ranges or anything like that. We sure as hell sent more rounds down range practicing than we ever did in real war.
F. Sinkwich
March 11th, 2013
7:33 pm
“I wish the same truism “do the time if you do the time” were applied to Wall Street.”
It does. But you knew that.
You hate people who are more successful than you are.
Sad, but understandable in lib ilk world…
Keep Up the Good Fight!
March 11th, 2013
7:33 pm
Brosephus, I don’t know. I have got to agree. 1.6 billion rounds. Why Barney Fife only had 1 and it was in his pocket and there was never a bad day in Mayberry.
JayDee
March 11th, 2013
7:34 pm
Well, if Bill Kristol was dismissive then I support Paul even more. Was it the same Bill Kristol who founded the Project for the New American Century thinktank that advised past presidents on how America should mold its foreign and domestic policy? The same one who wrote in a paper published by this group in 2000 (pre-9/11) that in regards to ensuring the US is still a world power it must increase its military power both domestically and abroad, but that “[...]this process of transformation, even if it brings revolutionary change, is likely to be a long one, absent some catastrophic and catalyzing event––like a new Pearl Harbor”. The neocons are a little scared of their war-machine being exposed for what it is.
Mr. Bookman – regarding the letter Eric Holder first sent: it said that the Fed gov’t would not use a drone strike if local authorities could capture the person first. Paul was asking about the possibility of using a drone against a US citizen on US soil without trial or proof of guilt; Holder’s response didn’t answer the question – and regarding the 9/11 example Holder used – how does that even make sense? Those planes were hijacked and all involved knew it was an attack as it was happening. Paul’s point was about drone strikes in times of doubt over guilt, and if it was an option the government was considering using before proof of guilt.
Anywho, I’ll let you big-govt-loving-not-really-getting-the-issue folks enjoy your “bash a republican” j/o-fest.
getalife
March 11th, 2013
7:34 pm
kay,
Are you scared of becoming the minority?
Get Real
March 11th, 2013
7:35 pm
Not to worry, may not be much country left to actual govern by 2016…
Mama says
March 11th, 2013
7:35 pm
Jay,
The comments are no more fantasy than Obama warning that the internment of people in GITMO could be a course pursued by our government to deny rights to American citizens.
No more fanticiful than liberals demanding that we stop water boarding because its cruel while you support drone killings from a remote controlled video monitoring system.
But
Most importantly no more fanticiful than democrats looking the other way and excusing every unconstitutional mandate that our government continues to force upon us.
just think Jay, we now live in a world in which senators of both parties (yes a democrat assisted Paul in the fillibuster – something you apparently forgot) are disparaged by opt adds, bloggers and left wing nuts who have a problem with a simple request of the president. This issue became an issue when Obamas head of law enforcement for this entire country– a man charged with ensuuring our rights-refused to simply say two words when’s asked about drone attacks on our on citizens in our own country. Those words ? ‘Simply unconstitutional’. Thats all the answer had to be. Had it been, there would be no issue of fantasy proportions to filibuster. Yet you call out the senator and excuse the vague answers given by your party leaders.
Your excuse of the muddled worded logic that was used by Holder to answer the question, after the third request, is nothing more than the continued erosion of our constitution. Somehow I really believe that if asked about freedom of the press, Holders phrasing about how he dosent think it could or would ever be usurped-rather than simply saying it can’t be, would be reassure to you.
Bottom line is our party loyalty has brought us undeclared wars, a government that refuses to operate on a required budget, the identification of our country as “The Motherland” ( which should be a glaring hint to us all), mandated public votes for union membership, mandated insurance purchases and now the “testing” of drone operations, by the military and law enforcement over our own homes. None of these are things that our constitution was intended to ensure, but exactly what we were suppose to be protected from.
So keep supporting the man Jay, constitution or not he is your man isn’t he ?
moonbat betty
March 11th, 2013
7:35 pm
Horseshoes do rock,
getalife
March 11th, 2013
7:36 pm
Get Real,
Our country survived the w disaster so it can survive Obama.
F. Sinkwich
March 11th, 2013
7:37 pm
“When I was in Iraq we NEVER qualified or went to live fire ranges or anything like that.”
Long Dong Silver wept at his inadequacy when he saw mine.
Kamchak ~Thug from the Steppes
March 11th, 2013
7:38 pm
Are you scared of becoming the minority?
Hammer meet nail.
moonbat betty
March 11th, 2013
7:40 pm
Getalife, when the European americans become minorities, can I be your butler?
JamVet
March 11th, 2013
7:41 pm
Horseshoes do rock,
Agreed.
kay, get some professional help with your race issues. Seriously…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vn27lIzAHV4
Kamchak ~Thug from the Steppes
March 11th, 2013
7:42 pm
Long Dong Silver wept…
…tears of laughter.
Marvin
March 11th, 2013
7:42 pm
“I’m feeling good, I’m feeling so fine, until tomorrow, but that’s just some other time” VU
Rand Paul’s followers can relate.
getalife
March 11th, 2013
7:44 pm
moonbat,
Sorry, I am not hiring but if you know you will be the minority one day, you might want to treat other minorities better.
Common sense.
We are all Americans and all created equal.
josef
March 11th, 2013
7:44 pm
All you folks talking about “minorities” best watch out. Them sneaky Hebes are already plotting. I was reading an article on Jewish demographics, and guess what? One of the fasting growing populations in the US of A are the Jews. More and more of the younger ones are tending toward Orthodoxy and averaging 4-5 children, beginning their breeding almost a decade earlier others…
USMC-FoxbotAlpha
March 11th, 2013
7:46 pm
“Fat drunk and stupid is no way to go through life, son.”
– Thomas “Dean Vernon Wormer” Jefferson”—KAMCHATKA
Okay Kamchatka, we definitely need to go drink beer!
Fred ™
March 11th, 2013
7:47 pm
No more fanticiful than liberals demanding that we stop water boarding because its cruel while you support drone killings from a remote controlled video monitoring system.
Wow. How stupid ARE you? You are trying to compare torture with using a weapons system? Explain to me the difference between a drone and a guided missile or smart bomb? Everyday you talk radio FOXBOTS stun and amaze me with the stupid crap you buy and spew……..
Holy crap dude. You forgot to mention cancelled white house tours and Benghazi………..
Just damn.
DoggoneGA
March 11th, 2013
7:49 pm
“No person.. shall be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law.”
And if some nutcase is holed up in a tower shooting people at random, and sniper takes him out because there’s no other way to get at him…where is HIS “due process of law”?
Or would you applaud the sniper and say he got what he deserved?
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
March 11th, 2013
7:49 pm
More and more of the younger ones are tending toward Orthodoxy and averaging 4-5 children…
In a world filled with too many zionist bankers, do we really need any more?
“My daughter! O my ducats! O my daughter!
Fled with a Christian! O my Christian ducats!
Justice! the law! my ducats, and my daughter!”
– Thomas “Shylock” Jefferson
USMC-FoxbotAlpha
March 11th, 2013
7:50 pm
“…beginning their BREEDING almost a decade earlier others…”–josef
That’s classic! I am glad a Gentile didn’t slip up and say that!
Jewish people are hard working, responsible, and DON’T rely on the gubmint to pay their way.
Plus we can always use more Deli’s!
“BREED em, if you got em!”
josef
March 11th, 2013
7:53 pm
K’CHAK
I ought to take offense, but I can’t…I was about to post that, of course, there are concerns as to whether the banking industry can expand rapidly enough to accommodate the increase!
Love that Thomas “Shylock” Jefferson
Recon 0311 2533
March 11th, 2013
7:53 pm
So Jay’s on Rand Paul’s case again. I guess with such a skinny Dem depth chart for 2016 like Hillary who’ll be over the hill pushing age 70 and shotgun Joe the gaffer whose no Spring chicken himself the Democrats don’t have very much once the one is out of office. Maybe Dennis Kucinich or Nancy Pelosei or Harry Reid will step up. I think the Democrats will have a lot more to concern themselves with in 2014 with Obama’s falling voter approval and the party’s potential loss of the Senate.
Fred ™
March 11th, 2013
7:54 pm
Getalife, when the European americans become minorities, can I be your butler?
If he says no, you can come be my cook if you’ll take off your shoes and get in the kitchen where you belong………..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tq57dcl7I3A&list=PL7B626D544F671E2C&index=11
josef
March 11th, 2013
7:55 pm
USMC
“Jewish people are hard working, responsible, and DON’T rely on the gubmint to pay their way.”
Don’t tell that to the new gubmint coming in in Jerusalem…
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
March 11th, 2013
7:56 pm
…there are concerns as to whether the banking industry can expand rapidly enough to accommodate the increase!
Heh, heh, heh.
With all the mergers happenin’ in that industry, I’d use the word contraction to describe the work force.
Fred ™
March 11th, 2013
7:58 pm
I think the Democrats will have a lot more to concern themselves with in 2014 with Obama’s falling voter approval and the party’s potential loss of the Senate.
Yeah, just like Romney taking the 2012 election in a landslide……..
USMC-FoxbotAlpha
March 11th, 2013
7:59 pm
If you Carpetbaggers been yet, you need to get some culture down at Blind Willy’s with Luther Houserocker Johnson. “That Bwaoy can play!”
Luther Johnson @ Blind Willie’s Virginia Highlands Atlanta Georgia
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-lb_KTEi3k8
USMC-FoxbotAlpha
March 11th, 2013
8:00 pm
“Don’t tell that to the new gubmint coming in in Jerusalem…”–Josef
Mama says
March 11th, 2013
8:01 pm
As a good con would do I was watching Current TV last night and caught the show on Americas healthcare and how to fix it.
Even on Current they pointed out how the insurance lobby spent 1 BILLION on lobbying Obama and the democrats on the structure of the bill. It showed a photo of Obama and cabinet members sitting at a large conference table. The picture identified those in attendance by job rather than name. Aside from the government positions, such as “president” every major insurance company in this country had a seat at the table. State Farm, Etna, Prudential and so on.
The commentary, on CURRENT TV, was that this was a boom for the insurance companies. The fact is that they got a bill that mandated we all buy their product. The commentary also included the fact that the lobbyist are already working the same government officials to weaken the citizen protections in the bill. In other words in 20 years all we will be left with is the requirement to by insurance. I don’t know which is more surprising, Democratic congress people taking 1 billion from lobbyist or that Obama care is now being called a future constitutional failure brought to us by the Hypocrite in Chief.
godless heathen - owner of many things he does not need
March 11th, 2013
8:02 pm
We are all Americans and all created equal.
Not meant to be a factual statement.
Jose79845
March 11th, 2013
8:02 pm
As soon as Holder issues his nullification statement against Colorado and Washington, a warning will be sent out to marijuana dispensaries and grow sites to vacate specific areas.
The Obama administration will not assume any responsibility for loss of life if the order to vacate is not obeyed. Targeted drone strikes will be used to take out illegal narcotic maufacturing and distribution centers in order to avoid casualites to federal law enforcement.
guy
March 11th, 2013
8:04 pm
I am proud Rand Paul stood up to the obama administration who continues to think the constitution is irrelevent. Don’t worry about Rand’s hair. What about obama’s big ears that are big enough to fly with but useless at listening? What’s good for the goose is good for the gander! Crats and Cons need to know a thick skin is needed now. You dish it so be ready to take it! No one is correct all the time.
Keep Up the Good Fight!
March 11th, 2013
8:04 pm
I think the Democrats will have a lot more to concern themselves with in 2014 with Obama’s falling voter approval and the party’s potential loss of the Senate
Looks like a repeat of unskewed poll projections 2012.
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
March 11th, 2013
8:05 pm
Even on Current they pointed out how the insurance lobby spent 1 BILLION on lobbying Obama and the democrats on the structure of the bill.
Obama originally wanted single payer.
Of course that got shot to hell.
godless heathen - owner of many things he does not need
March 11th, 2013
8:06 pm
a warning will be sent out to marijuana dispensaries and grow sites to vacate specific areas.
I just hope I am downwind.
godless heathen - owner of many things he does not need
March 11th, 2013
8:07 pm
Obama originally wanted single payer.
Of course that got shot to hell.
Like most of what he wanted.
Oscar
March 11th, 2013
8:07 pm
Any acive college coed can tell you that all men are not created equal.
getalife
March 11th, 2013
8:07 pm
Remember this?
If you are not a terrorist, you have nothing to worry about.
Why are you an unpatriotic terrorist sympathizers?
Weak on national security.
Recon 0311 2533
March 11th, 2013
8:07 pm
Yeah, just like Romney taking the 2012 election in a landslide…
Good point and I forgot about the Democrats ability for ballot box stuffing and busing uninformed voters to the polls. The party of irresponsibility’s foundation is built upon the stupids in American society and all that has to get done is transport them to the polls. Of course once they’re free handouts are no longer available, look out.
USMC-FoxbotAlpha
March 11th, 2013
8:08 pm
“Obama originally wanted (Socialist)single payer. Of course that got shot to hell.”–Kamchatka
There’s your sign, “Sport.”
Jose79845
March 11th, 2013
8:09 pm
2014 will be a two issue election.
Do you support guns and marijuana?
yes = welcome
no = get lost
josef
March 11th, 2013
8:11 pm
OSCAR
“Any acive college coed can tell you that all men are not created equal.”
Especially our poor, unfortunate co-nationals from Up Nawth…bless their hearts.
USMC-FoxbotAlpha
March 11th, 2013
8:12 pm
SHOCK POLL: More Prefer Congressional Republicans Over Obama On budget…
http://www.mcclatchydc.com/2013/03/11/185487/mcclatchy-marist-poll-shows-obama.html
getalife
March 11th, 2013
8:12 pm
del,
You lost twice.
Are you ever going to get over it?
Sore losing is getting old.
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
March 11th, 2013
8:13 pm
2014 will be a two issue election.
Only to two dimensional creatures.
Keep Up the Good Fight!
March 11th, 2013
8:13 pm
Good point and I forgot about the Democrats ability for ballot box stuffing and busing uninformed voters to the polls
Florida Republicans committing voter registration fraud scream “ACORN” :loL:
Robert Morrow
March 11th, 2013
8:14 pm
Google “Jeb Bush and the 1986 Murder of CIA Drug Smuggler Barry Seal”
http://barrysealmurder1986jebbusholivernorth.blogspot.com/
moonbat betty
March 11th, 2013
8:14 pm
Fred 7:54
Ok, but you may be the main course.
My pit bulls are hungry.
USMC-FoxbotAlpha
March 11th, 2013
8:14 pm
NYC Attorney Asks Judge To Ban Jews From Accused Terrorist’s Jury…
http://newyork.cbslocal.com/2013/03/11/nyc-attorney-asks-judge-to-ban-jews-from-accused-terrorists-jury/
My, My… those Muslim Terrorists are a peace loving people…
(or at least that’s what RUSH LIMBAUGH told us to say!)
dixie normous
March 11th, 2013
8:15 pm
when Bush was President Bookman displayed a lot of that deep streak of paranoia. Guess he is no better than bookman.
Jackie
March 11th, 2013
8:16 pm
@Recon
You did not forget any one your racist pejoratives when you used the words “busing, uninformed, ballot box stuffing and free handouts” in your 8:07 post.
Glad that you can remember those bumbper-sticker lines.
Fred ™
March 11th, 2013
8:16 pm
My pit bulls are hungry.
Are they crap eating dogs? I hope not……..
Recon 0311 2533
March 11th, 2013
8:17 pm
You lost twice
get, I guess you could then say that you lost twice when GWB was elected to a second term. In Obama’s case unfortunately, the country has lost twice.
USMC-FoxbotAlpha
March 11th, 2013
8:18 pm
“when Bush was President Bookman displayed a lot of that deep streak of paranoia. Guess he is no better than bookman.”
Yeah, also, have you ever noticed how “closed minded” Jay is??
Jay Bookman is not DIVERSE at all.
Welcome to the Occupation
March 11th, 2013
8:18 pm
getalife: “If you are not a terrorist, you have nothing to worry about.”
Are you citing some other person here?
Fred ™
March 11th, 2013
8:18 pm
Good point and I forgot about the Democrats ability for ballot box stuffing and busing uninformed voters to the polls. The party of irresponsibility’s foundation is built upon the stupids in American society and all that has to get done is transport them to the polls. Of course once they’re free handouts are no longer available, look out.
That is why you fail……….
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fLrpBLDWyCI
USMC-FoxbotAlpha
March 11th, 2013
8:19 pm
“Are they crap eating dogs? I hope not……..”–Fred “TM”
Screen cleaner please! LOL!
getalife
March 11th, 2013
8:19 pm
I don’t usually do college coeds but when I do I prefer virgins.
Stay horny my friends.
Breed baby breed.
Jose79845
March 11th, 2013
8:19 pm
Kamchak
The more than two dimensional creatures will be screaming about Islaam terrorists that no one gives a rat’s behind.
Welcome to the Occupation
March 11th, 2013
8:20 pm
dixie normous: “when Bush was President Bookman displayed a lot of that deep streak of paranoia. Guess he is no better than bookman.”
Can’t remember for sure if that is true, but I would not really doubt it.
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
March 11th, 2013
8:21 pm
Are they crap eating dogs?
Saw that British chick deal with that problem. Seems as though some dogs digest their food too rapidly. She fed the dog pineapple. They wont go back for seconds of pineapple.
getalife
March 11th, 2013
8:22 pm
“Are you citing some other person here?”
All the cons said that when w stole freedom and the left protested.
They called them unpatriotic terrorists sympathizers among other insults.
cons flipped flopped on freedom.
moonbat betty
March 11th, 2013
8:23 pm
Lol, I thought u were filet Mignon, Fred.
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
March 11th, 2013
8:24 pm
The more than two dimensional creatures will be screaming about Islaam terrorists that no one gives a rat’s behind.
Multi dimensional creatures, multiple issues.
I don’t expect you to see into a third dimension.
getalife
March 11th, 2013
8:24 pm
“the country has lost twice.”
It did but President Obama cleaned it up but there are still consequences.
Recon 0311 2533
March 11th, 2013
8:25 pm
Jackie, please don’t ass-ume that I’m a racist merely because I believe that Obama will probably go into the history books (barring revisionist history) as one of the worst presidents to set foot in the Oval Office. Uninformed voters included a lot of white people or Obama never would have been elected.
JamVet
March 11th, 2013
8:26 pm
DON’T rely on the gubmint to pay their way.
Are you crazy??
We use the roads, post offices, public schools and libraries, fire and police protection, water systems, and on and on and on and on and let Uncle Sam “pay our way”. It is part of being an American citizen
You see, we LOVE Uncle Sam. He is the very symbol of the our government of the people, by the people and for the people. Still the greatest form of government EVER created – in thousands of years of trying!
That is why we make such lousy Republicans!
We appreciate him for the partner he is! (Rather than wanting to drown him in a bathtub.)
josef
March 11th, 2013
8:26 pm
USMC
Ought to be fun in that jury selection…drop your drawers!
JamVet
March 11th, 2013
8:27 pm
…ballot box stuffing and busing uninformed voters to the polls.
Got any sources and supporting documentation for that?
Marvin
March 11th, 2013
8:27 pm
We’re barely 3 months into a presidential term and everybody wants to talk 2016. If the USA wants to be at the top of the heap, we’ll have to turn off the political noise and rally ’round the real priorities.
Developing leading edge technology and innovations relating to climate and energy efficiency will serve the double purpose of making people turn to us for those answers and saving the planet.
“Who shouts out ‘Hallelujah’
Who’s gonna sing out loud
Carry these men and women
Who get lost when the sun goes down”
getalife
March 11th, 2013
8:27 pm
del,
w got Obama elected and you know it.
Jackie
March 11th, 2013
8:28 pm
@Recon
How else could one access your specious comments?
Where you are a racist or not is your issue; when you use words and phrases that are clearly racists in their intent and meaning should be everyone’s issue.
Welcome to the Occupation
March 11th, 2013
8:28 pm
Recon: “Good point and I forgot about the Democrats ability for ballot box stuffing and busing uninformed voters to the polls”
Says the guy who sets himself up as the judge of who’s “informed” enough to be entitled to vote.
Please, tell us more about your deep-seated contempt for the people.
josef
March 11th, 2013
8:28 pm
getalife
What the hell do you want a virgin for. I’m like Walter, give me a ho who knows what (s)he’s doing!
TiredOfIt
March 11th, 2013
8:30 pm
Some say Rand Paul is the result of his fathers eariler days of heavy drinking. Don’t know for sure, but it is possible.
Marvin
March 11th, 2013
8:30 pm
As for Recon about Jackie: What makes you think she’s assuming?
getalife
March 11th, 2013
8:30 pm
Josef,
“What the hell do you want a virgin for.”
Change of pace.
Recon 0311 2533
March 11th, 2013
8:31 pm
Got any sources and supporting documentation for that?
Certainly, all you need to do is follow the news. Of course there are the uninformed who remain that way either by choice or by ignorance.
Marvin
March 11th, 2013
8:31 pm
“w got Obama elected…”
twice?
getalife
March 11th, 2013
8:33 pm
“twice?”
Yes, Americans know the gop are another disaster waiting to happen.
Welcome to the Occupation
March 11th, 2013
8:35 pm
getalife: “All the cons said that when w stole freedom and the left protested. / They called them unpatriotic terrorists sympathizers among other insults. / cons flipped flopped on freedom.”
Gotcha.
Of course, the problem here – as I stated above – is that so have the liberals. They’ve ‘flipped’ now that one of their guys is the one wielding the power.
Keep Up the Good Fight!
March 11th, 2013
8:35 pm
Kam, that British chick is Victoria Stilwell, a Georgia resident
Kamchak ~Thug from the Steppes
March 11th, 2013
8:35 pm
twice?
Sarah Palin gets the credit for win number two.
josef
March 11th, 2013
8:36 pm
getalife
I had a virgin once…once was enough. Doing it right took a lot of time, care and attention. Was it worth it? Yeah. Would I have done it a second time? Nanh.
Kamchak ~Thug from the Steppes
March 11th, 2013
8:38 pm
Keep
I saw that she came over to our side of the pond, and I saw a show where she was in the Grant Park area (I think). I didn’t know she stayed.
Stealin’ our jobs and rapin’ our wimmen. Just like a wetback.
getalife
March 11th, 2013
8:39 pm
Josef,
Did three in High School but could not find any after that.
One had braces trying to give a bj.
She left long scratches.
I could not have sex for weeks.
Recon 0311 2533
March 11th, 2013
8:40 pm
Please, tell us more about your deep-seated contempt for the people.
I have love for the American people in this country that I served but disdain for the jackasses. I have needed to remind myself from time to time that freedom allows for the jackasses and I fought for their freedoms as well. It’s a tough sell for many vetrans but none the less true.
josef
March 11th, 2013
8:40 pm
getalife
Ouch!
DoggoneGA
March 11th, 2013
8:41 pm
“Would I have done it a second time? Nanh.”
Ummm…but she wouldn’t have been a virgin the 2nd time
getalife
March 11th, 2013
8:41 pm
Occupation,
The left knows Presidents never give up power so they lost that fight.
getalife
March 11th, 2013
8:43 pm
“Ouch!”
Yes, my friends always bring that up because I was in pain.
Fred ™
March 11th, 2013
8:43 pm
Jackie? Have you seen this one?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vfDWqjAbwMk&list=UUKZGcrxRAhdUi58Mdr565mw&index=11
josef
March 11th, 2013
8:44 pm
DOGGONE
Well, there is that…did you ever read Florence King’s “Southern Ladies and Gentlemen?” She has an entire section on what she calls “the self-rejuvenating virgin…”
Keep Up the Good Fight!
March 11th, 2013
8:45 pm
Kam, what do you expect, she’s a Northpoint Starbucks thug!
She films frequently with our dogs so I see her every month or two.
Kamchak ~Thug from the Steppes
March 11th, 2013
8:45 pm
“the self-rejuvenating virgin…”
Japan has an entire industry dedicated to that very thing.
DoggoneGA
March 11th, 2013
8:47 pm
Josef – No, never read that. First time I’ve heard of it.
Kamchak ~Thug from the Steppes
March 11th, 2013
8:47 pm
Keep
Wiki says that she has a daughter.
An anchor baby, no doubt.
Recon 0311 2533
March 11th, 2013
8:47 pm
when you use words and phrases that are clearly racists in their intent and meaning should be everyone’s issue.
Jackie, I don’t know how or why you’ve drawn that conclusion but I’m not a politically correct guy and don’t care to be. It’s not my intent to demean anyone’s ethnic background and because it isn’t I make no apologies for my choice of words.
Jose79845
March 11th, 2013
8:50 pm
It was Republican Justice Scalia who sided with the Democrats to tear up the Constitution with the “drug war exception.”
Keep Up the Good Fight!
March 11th, 2013
8:53 pm
Kam, that would be positively, as in http://www.positively.com
guy
March 11th, 2013
8:53 pm
getalife, obama has stunk it up,not cleaned it up! I know what you meant.
Kamchak ~Thug from the Steppes
March 11th, 2013
8:53 pm
Jose79845
Duuuuuuuuuuuuude, where’s your car?
getalife
March 11th, 2013
8:54 pm
Jose,
Are you in a drug cartel?
DoggoneGA
March 11th, 2013
8:55 pm
“t was Republican Justice Scalia who sided with the Democrats to tear up the Constitution with the “drug war exception.””
I bet you are REALLY PISSED that someone with your depth of constitutional knowledge has been so consistently overlooked when it came time to appoint a new justice to the Supreme Court.
getalife
March 11th, 2013
8:56 pm
guy,
So you want to go back to lose 750,000 jobs a month, a collapsed banking system and two failed occupations?
JamVet
March 11th, 2013
8:56 pm
guy, did you vote for George W. Bush? Just curious…
MiltonMan
March 11th, 2013
8:57 pm
We are still awaiting Armageddon that Obama promised us when the cuts took place. I guess by him canceling the White House tours it saved us all! Thanks Mr. President!
Brosephus™
March 11th, 2013
8:57 pm
Fred and Keep @ 7:33
You gotta remember all the groups that make up DHS too. It’s not just ICE and Border Patrol. There’s also the Coast Guard, Secret Service, TSA (FAMS), the Traning Center (FLETC), and other groups that are armed. I giggle when I see the scaredy cats fretting about that ammo purchase.
Kamchak ~Thug from the Steppes
March 11th, 2013
8:57 pm
Keep
I thoroughly enjoyed her shows and think she’s incredibly effective in her knowledge of canine behavior. Did she try to help you with your problem dog that turned on you?
William
March 11th, 2013
8:57 pm
I think it’s brilliant. We can show the rest of the US that the Republicans can nominate just as much of an failure as the Dems. Obama has proven it’s a race to the bottom for the “idiot” vote.
Jose79845
March 11th, 2013
8:58 pm
I’m just passing my time waiting for Obama to ship some of that Afghan Kush.
getalife
March 11th, 2013
8:59 pm
Bro,
Do they supply police with bullets too?
MiltonMan
March 11th, 2013
8:59 pm
“It was Republican Justice Scalia who sided with the Democrats to tear up the Constitution with the “drug war exception.””
Damn! Supreme Court justices now carry a party designation? Man, you learn something new everyday with the intellects on this board.
getalife
March 11th, 2013
9:00 pm
“Afghan Kush.”
Yum, tastes like lemon.
Kamchak ~Thug from the Steppes
March 11th, 2013
9:01 pm
I giggle when I see the scaredy cats fretting about that ammo purchase.
And I’m amazed they could purchase that many rounds. Story in the local paper up here in this small halmlet in the N.C. mtns. about local LEOS unable to get any rounds at all. And that puts a damper on those qualifying thingies you were talking about.
Josef
March 11th, 2013
9:01 pm
Doggone
It’s hilarious…and for someone like you who loves the language, she’s one of the best…
getalife
March 11th, 2013
9:01 pm
mm,
You know scalia is gop.
Jose79845
March 11th, 2013
9:01 pm
With very few exceptions, the SC justices vote partisan politics. Anyone who thinks otherwise has an intellectual deficiency.
DoggoneGA
March 11th, 2013
9:03 pm
“I thoroughly enjoyed her shows and think she’s incredibly effective in her knowledge of canine behavior”
If you’re talking about Victoria Stilwell…she’s not bad, but I’ve seen her be incredibly INeffective too.
Josef
March 11th, 2013
9:04 pm
K’CHAK
I had read about that…
Keep Up the Good Fight!
March 11th, 2013
9:04 pm
Kam, here she is with my friend. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2tBzcLFby8w
I’ll tell you more over beers on day. I have been in some seminars with her and have been in a few of her tweets. She uses the same methods that we do and films a lot of her Youtube epet videos her with the dogs I work with.
DoggoneGA
March 11th, 2013
9:05 pm
“With very few exceptions, the SC justices vote partisan politics”
Got proof? For someone with your incredible depth of legal knowledge, you should be able to come up with literally hundreds.
Get Real
March 11th, 2013
9:07 pm
“Our country survived the w disaster so it can survive Obama”
not so sure there getalife, we can only hope for the best….
JamVet
March 11th, 2013
9:07 pm
We can show the rest of the US that the Republicans can nominate just as much of an failure as the Dems.
Given the results of the last two elections, I would suggest not just as much of a failure but even bigger failures.
Which is the direct result of the Bush-Cheney cancer that the right wingers have…
Jose79845
March 11th, 2013
9:08 pm
I agree with the vote, but it was 100% partisan:
The Second Amendment’s guarantee of an individual right to bear arms applies to state and local gun control laws, the Supreme Court ruled Monday in a 5-to-4 decision.
Brosephus™
March 11th, 2013
9:08 pm
getalife
When police go to the training center, I think all that is provided for by the center.
Recon 0311 2533
March 11th, 2013
9:09 pm
Ammo will always be easily available. Restrict it, tax it or ban it, makes no difference as it’s simple to manufacture and would turn up in abundance on the black market. Obama, Diane Feinstein and the other left wing dip shytes in congress have no clue.
guy
March 11th, 2013
9:09 pm
JamVet, I voted for you because you are such a genius.i don’t want you to get the bighead but you asked and I replied. You are the man and my idol.
Keep Up the Good Fight!
March 11th, 2013
9:09 pm
Doggone, she’ll be the first to tell you about the “miracle” of TV editing but in person I have witnessed her work. You won’t hear about the miracle of editing that from the man who whispers.
Get Real
March 11th, 2013
9:10 pm
“It did but President Obama cleaned it up but there are still consequences”
Good Gawd….getalife, you are one wacky squirrel
Kamchak ~Thug from the Steppes
March 11th, 2013
9:15 pm
I’ll tell you more over beers on day.
The parking lot at Northpoint Starbucks?
Venti lattes at ten paces.
moonbat betty
March 11th, 2013
9:17 pm
getalife quote:
“One had braces trying to give a bj.
She left long scratches.”
you are deranged getalife…
“what do you call a 17 year old with braces?”
a black n decka pecka wrecka?
td
March 11th, 2013
9:17 pm
How many armed agents does the department of homeland security have?
Child agencies of the DHS include:
United States Citizenship and Immigration Services (18,000)
U.S. Customs and Border Protection (45,600)
Federal Emergency Management Agency (7,474)
U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement (20,546)
Transportation Security Administration (58,401)
United States Coast Guard (7,942)
National Protection and Programs Directorate (1)
United States Secret Service (4,400)
For a total of approximately 162,364 personnel.
So if each armed agent shoot 1000 rounds per year to practice then my calculations are that it would take 10 years to shoot 1.6 billion rounds.
DoggoneGA
March 11th, 2013
9:19 pm
“Doggone, she’ll be the first to tell you about the “miracle” of TV editing but in person I have witnessed her work.”
She doesn’t have to. I’ve seen it for myself.
” You won’t hear about the miracle of editing that from the man who whispers”
Actually, you will, but if you never watch him…well, then you won’t. I’ve used some of her techniques, and some of his…but I’m an experienced dog owner and knew how to use them correctly. The biggest problem I have with BOTH of their shows is that there isn’t enough stress placed on timing. A technique that an expert like Cesar Millan or Victoria Stilwell can use effectively…because they have great timing…doesn’t always work well for beginners, and can actually be counter productive. Because a beginner doesn’t always have that split second timing and they can end up rewarding the wrong behavior because they took too long.
I can criticise them both, and I can praise them both. The biggest issue I have is with her “disciples” – who can be incredibly and unreasonably critical of every other dog trainer EXCEPT her. I don’t find that attitude with Cesar Millan’s followers, and I think that’s because he says – repeatedly – to use whatever works for your dog and your situation. And he’s not afraid to use the techniques he learns from dog trainers.
As he says, he’s not a dog trainer…and he will, and HAS, had dog trainers on his show when the situation called for it.
Keep Up the Good Fight!
March 11th, 2013
9:20 pm
Kam, you got it (although I think they size the beer differently)
getalife
March 11th, 2013
9:21 pm
Get real,
Yeah, losing millions of jobs causes people to go on food stamps.
The collapse was not free so we are still suffering from the bush disaster.
He can’t even show his face and paints himself in a bathtub (talk about a nutty squirrel)
Meanwhile, Carter and Clinton are still serving people.
Kamchak ~Thug from the Steppes
March 11th, 2013
9:22 pm
Keep
Oh that’s right, we’re talking beer. In Decatur we have growlers.
moonbat betty
March 11th, 2013
9:22 pm
getalife, you’re the reason why fathers clean their guns when little schmuck wanna be’s come calling on their young daughters.
right, Fredro?
JamVet
March 11th, 2013
9:23 pm
guy, if you did vote for George it is nothing to be ashamed of admitting. Though you certainly seem to be.
It’s OK, guy. You are obviously very young and have much to learn.
Remember the first step – After years of denial, recovery can begin with one simple admission of you being powerless over your fear of what others think of you.
Keep Up the Good Fight!
March 11th, 2013
9:23 pm
Doggone, we’ll have to agree to disagree. I’ve seen the flame wars on both sides and I have seen dogs pushed to bite by Caesar who were being pushed. I have also been the victim of a dog abused by those who failed to follow the “do not try this at home” disclaimer.
Brosephus™
March 11th, 2013
9:24 pm
So if each armed agent shoot 1000 rounds per year to practice then my calculations are that it would take 10 years to shoot 1.6 billion rounds.
And your calculations would be wrong, as you usually are. The one agency that would consume the most ammo out of all of DHS would be the Federal Law Enforcement Training Center otherwise known as FLETC.
http://www.fletc.gov/
The FLETC serves as an interagency law enforcement training organization for 91 Federal agencies. The FLETC also provides services to state, local, tribal, and international law enforcement agencies. The FLETC is headquartered at Glynco, Ga., near the port city of Brunswick, halfway between Savannah, Ga., and Jacksonville, Fla.
In addition to Glynco, the FLETC operates two other residential training sites in Artesia, N.M., and Charleston, S.C. The FLETC also operates a non-residential in-service re-qualification and advanced training facility in Cheltenham, Md., for use by agencies with large concentrations of personnel in the Washington, D.C., area.
The FLETC has oversight and program management responsibilities at the International Law Enforcement Academies (ILEA) in Gaborone, Botswana, and Bangkok, Thailand. The FLETC also supports training at other ILEAs in Hungary and El Salvador.
T-R-A-I-N-I-N-G That’s what it’s all about. Once again, you come up short in the knowledge department. You shoot par on that course better than Tiger shooting for par at Augusta National. Just sayin…
Keep Up the Good Fight!
March 11th, 2013
9:24 pm
Kam,
I can bring a growler if you want. 
Kamchak ~Thug from the Steppes
March 11th, 2013
9:24 pm
He can’t even show his face and paints himself in a bathtub (talk about a nutty squirrel)
getalife
March 11th, 2013
9:24 pm
“you are deranged getalife…
“what do you call a 17 year old with braces?”
a black n decka pecka wrecka?”
I am deranged?
No, since you cons want to get in our bedrooms, I thought I would share some stories.
moonbat betty
March 11th, 2013
9:26 pm
There are growlers in Alpharetta and Forsyth county now too.
moonbat betty
March 11th, 2013
9:28 pm
“No, since you cons want to get in our bedrooms”
No, don’t think so.
Now the libs want to get in YOUR bedroom and see your “guns”
getalife
March 11th, 2013
9:28 pm
“getalife, you’re the reason why fathers clean their guns when little schmuck wanna be’s come calling on their young daughters.”
Sex drugs and rock and roll.
td
March 11th, 2013
9:28 pm
Looks like the progressives may have counted their chickens before they hatched.
” TALLAHASSEE, Florida (Reuters) – Florida Governor Rick Scott’s plan to expand Medicaid coverage to cover about 1 million more poor people suffered a potential death blow on Monday when the proposal failed to make it out of a key state legislative committee.
The Senate Select Committee on the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act voted 7-4 to reject the expansion, with all of the committee’s Republican members voting against the plan championed by Scott.
A House legislative committee rejected the expansion last week, with the Senate committee’s vote its final rejection unless political leaders agree to present a new compromise bill later in the current legislative session.”
http://news.yahoo.com/florida-medicaid-expansion-rejected-key-legislative-committee-195213155.html?fb_action_ids=624803607536808%2C10200280521169529&fb_action_types=news.reads&fb_source=other_multiline&action_object_map={%22624803607536808%22%3A276624619136644%2C%2210200280521169529%22%3A572174902807171}&action_type_map={%22624803607536808%22%3A%22news.reads%22%2C%2210200280521169529%22%3A%22news.reads%22}&action_ref_map=[]
Get Real
March 11th, 2013
9:29 pm
“Yeah, losing millions of jobs causes people to go on food stamps
The collapse was not free so we are still suffering from the bush disaster
He can’t even show his face and paints himself in a bathtub (talk about a nutty squirrel)
Meanwhile, Carter and Clinton are still serving people”
Sorry getalife, I forgot…it is all Bush’s fault, say it again it is all Bush’s fault…one more time it is all Bush’s fault…
I will give Clinton is props but Carter is nutty than a $hit House rat
DoggoneGA
March 11th, 2013
9:30 pm
“Doggone, we’ll have to agree to disagree. I’ve seen the flame wars on both sides and I have seen dogs pushed to bite by Caesar who were being pushed”
It’s not a matter of disagreement. It’s a matter of choice. I’ve seen at least one dog on HER show driven to the point of biting too…because the wrong technique for his problem was being used. I have NO doubt that if SHE had been dealing with that dog directly it wouldn’t have gotten to that point, but she wasn’t. She was instructing his owners and THEY lacked the correct timing and knowledge, and they were – at her instructions – rewarding the WRONG behavior.
“I have also been the victim of a dog abused by those who failed to follow the “do not try this at home” disclaimer”
And that is NOT the fault of the trainer – no matter which trainer. I can, and will, blame the trainer when they are there and supposedly instructing the person interacting with the dog…but NO trainer is to blame for what people do on their own.
As I said, I’ve effectively used techniques from BOTH OF THEM. I follow the advice that Cesar Millan gives: to use what WORKS for my dog and for the problem I’m trying to correct.
getalife
March 11th, 2013
9:30 pm
“Now the libs want to get in YOUR bedroom and see your “guns””
My guns are all over my house not just my bedroom.
Kamchak ~Thug from the Steppes
March 11th, 2013
9:31 pm
Keep
Brosephus™
March 11th, 2013
9:31 pm
There are growlers in Alpharetta and Forsyth county now too.
Hell, when I’m hungry, my stomach’s a growler.
Seriously though, we have a spot down here in Stockbridge that does growlers too. Found it while on baby leave as it was right across from the hospital entrance.
moonbat betty
March 11th, 2013
9:31 pm
Cute, getalife.
Try it sometime.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z9FmOc0ofGc
getalife
March 11th, 2013
9:32 pm
Get reral,
Not just w, congress too.
The facts show the gop can’t govern. Period.
getalife
March 11th, 2013
9:34 pm
“Carter is nutty than a $hit House rat”
Yes Argo was pretty crazy and that addiction to oil and green energy was just nuts.
Get Real
March 11th, 2013
9:35 pm
Get….
you would not know a fact if it ran you over, backed up and then ran you over again..
Bless your little heart…
getalife
March 11th, 2013
9:36 pm
Get Real,
Write a fact and lets test your theory.
Kamchak ~Thug from the Steppes
March 11th, 2013
9:36 pm
Now the libs want to get in YOUR bedroom and see your “guns”
No, just Barbara Palvin’s and firearms ain’t got nothing to do with it.
Get Real
March 11th, 2013
9:37 pm
And you would be the judge? No thanks
Recon 0311 2533
March 11th, 2013
9:38 pm
Meanwhile, Carter and Clinton are still serving people
get, Carter serves up sanctimony, while Clinton serves up self serving ego. You must be one of their best customers.
JamVet
March 11th, 2013
9:38 pm
Nothing is Bush’s fault, say it again nothing is Bush’s fault…one more time nothing is Bush’s fault…
Except possibly crushing the GOP’s chances of NOT going down the electoral toilet in the next twenty years…
moonbat betty
March 11th, 2013
9:38 pm
“No, just Barbara Palvin’s and firearms ain’t got nothing to do with it.”
Kam babbling and drooling, says “What?”
getalife
March 11th, 2013
9:39 pm
“And you would be the judge? No thanks”
Surrender already?
Come on man.
“get, Carter serves up sanctimony, while Clinton serves up self serving ego. You must be one of their best customers.”
I will take both over w anytime.
Kamchak ~Thug from the Steppes
March 11th, 2013
9:42 pm
SoCo/Bro
Did they close the Moe-Joe’s just off I-675 and hwy 42?
F. Sinkwich
March 11th, 2013
9:43 pm
Bush !!!
Brosephus™
March 11th, 2013
9:45 pm
Kamchak
I think it’s still there. I was looking at one of their ads over the weekend, and it showed a Morrow location. I didn’t look at the address though.
appleseed
March 11th, 2013
9:45 pm
Hey Get, give me your address,guns all over the house.ha
Brosephus™
March 11th, 2013
9:48 pm
Kamchak
Just googled it and yelp says it’s closed. That was the one located in Rex. However, there’s a location near there in Morrow.
guy
March 11th, 2013
9:49 pm
JamVet, I did vote for gore and kerry.I tried.What else could I do? What you may think of me is as meaningless as a wheat seed in a whale’s butt. Thanks for the advice though. You truly are an ??? (a smart one at that) Get your rest!
Kamchak ~Thug from the Steppes
March 11th, 2013
9:49 pm
SoCo/Bro
I haven’t been there in over a year, and they had lost their beer license. I can’t see a wing joint surviving with out a beer license. Great Sahlen hot dogs too.
F. Sinkwich
March 11th, 2013
9:54 pm
“I did vote for gore and kerry”
There’s your signage. **
** KammieSpam. All rights reserved.
Jm
March 11th, 2013
9:56 pm
God bless Rand for bringing attention to the use of drones
Even if it wasn’t the perfectly crafted message for liberals
DoggoneGA
March 11th, 2013
9:58 pm
“Even if it wasn’t the perfectly crafted message for liberals”
It’s difficult to craft a”perfect message” when the foundation of your message is a lie.
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
March 11th, 2013
10:03 pm
Awwwwwwwwwwww, Witchie-poo has made a bid for presidency of my fan club.
Isn’t that just so precious.
guy
March 11th, 2013
10:06 pm
Sinkwich, I did not vote for gore or kerry. Just trying to aggravate jamvet. Love to rile up a lib!
td
March 11th, 2013
10:11 pm
DoggoneGA
March 11th, 2013
9:58 pm
“Even if it wasn’t the perfectly crafted message for liberals”
It’s difficult to craft a”perfect message” when the foundation of your message is a lie.
There are quiet a few progressives, including the ACLU and Code Pink, that would say you are wrong.
getalife
March 11th, 2013
10:12 pm
“can you throw down a shot of Wild Turkey 101?”
Yes.
moonbat betty
March 11th, 2013
10:18 pm
gore/edwards
comeback of 2016!
moonbat betty
March 11th, 2013
10:21 pm
connie mack/richard blumenthal
Redneck Convert (R--and proud of it)
March 11th, 2013
10:21 pm
Well, I been thinking about this Rand Paul thing ever since Bookman brung it up today. And I decided it just means we’re pretty well reduced to peeing in the librul Democrats beer and spitting in their corn flakes. It’s kinda sad. Back in November I thought for sure we’d take over the Senate and the White House and then get just about anything we wanted passed. And now we’re down to a talkathon to try and keep somebody we don’t like from getting a cabinet post. And the poor guy can’t even hold his water long enough to last beyond 13 hours. And worse, most of the people in his own party were just wishing he’d shut up and let them vote so they could go home.
It’s the end of the world, I tell you.
moonbat betty
March 11th, 2013
10:22 pm
Fienstein/Heinrich
moonbat betty
March 11th, 2013
10:24 pm
Well, Redneck, it’s bout time you went up to the Dawsonville Pool Hall and confessed your love for all things redneck.
Unless you are a sissy…
Redneck Convert (R--and proud of it)
March 11th, 2013
10:28 pm
Well, Betty, I got more class than to be seen in that Dawsonville joint.
moonbat betty
March 11th, 2013
10:30 pm
That’s what I thought, RC….
Go scurry under your bridge at 285 and Cynthia McKinney Blvd.
Cloudodust
March 11th, 2013
10:32 pm
The ‘Future’ scares the left. The status quo man-made chaos seems the norm, as askew as it is. Obamaphones to the dead, multiple illegal voting ‘rights’ is ok as long as it is for in favor of ‘The Cause’. All is well in the Land of Oz….and you folks want to be taken seriously..? Seriously people, GTH. You’re screwing up the greatest God given nation this planet has ever seen.
BSNBC
March 11th, 2013
10:33 pm
Suffer American people ! That’s Obama’s motto and his plan as he pushes his agenda1 No money for what you want but plenty for vacations and parties at the White House!
getalife
March 11th, 2013
10:34 pm
Will a brown man end the gop?
The plot thickens.
Bill Orvis White
March 11th, 2013
10:37 pm
Once again, Librul Jay is wrong as usual. Rand Paul, Paul Ryan, Marco Rubio, Sarah Palin, Michele Bachmann and even your honorable Congressman from north of Atlanta, Robert Woodall are the future of a vibrant, truly conservative, successful Republican Party – which WILL be completely in power by January 2017. When this rightful action takes place, these mavericks are going to quickly dismantle ObamaCare; erase what will be $85 trillion in ObamaDebt; 55 million job$ will be created within four months of a Rubio presidency; a culture of life will return to our soil; dignity WILL be restored to the Oval Office where it belongs; dictators WILL run scared of the U.S. and most of all, taxe$ will go way down, gas will be at $1.35/gallon, the EPA, Dept of Miseducation, Mediscare, Mediraid and Social Insecurity will all cease to exist! Amen, Bill
JKL2
March 11th, 2013
10:37 pm
jay- I didn’t think it possible for the 2016 GOP presidential field to even approach the 2012 field in terms of wackiness, but given early indications, I may have to reconsider that notion
Good to see you are still campaigning (like our president). Let me know when you find a Republican that you approve of (and will never vote for). I’ll be holding my breathe waiting for your endorsement…
Cloudodust
March 11th, 2013
10:42 pm
..and one of your icons, Mark Kelly (Gabby’s ol’ man) goes out and buys an ‘assault gun’ after announcing his claim against as such. Hypocrites, the bunch of you… Your base is built on limestone.
JKL2
March 11th, 2013
10:42 pm
getalife- Will a brown man end the gop? The plot thickens.
We have one trying to lead us back to slavery. Anything can happen with you 47%ers.
Would you be called a 51%er if we kept statistics like the unemployment figures? Unemployment will be down to zero if we could only get 10 million more people to drop out of the workforce.
Soothsayer
March 11th, 2013
10:46 pm
Well, I see ol’ Cloudodust and BSNBC and ol’ Bill doofus White have done all checked in here right within just a few minutes of the other. Kinda makes one wonder don’t it?
I know one thing, my Obamaphone cain’t reach the dead RepugNOwecan’t party. And I shore know how many days ol’ King Dumbass the First done took on his watch. Obamer’s got a lo-o-o-ng way to go to catch up.
The one thing I know for shore more than anything else is that Marco Duplicate is gonna get his clock cleaned if he runs agains Hillary in 2016.
But, then agin’ what do I know!?
td
March 11th, 2013
10:47 pm
President Barack Obama says he’s ready to do whatever it takes to help Democrats win the House next year — a feat that could make the difference between limping to the end of his presidency and going out with a bang.
But some Democratic candidates and operatives in the districts on which control of the House will hinge said in interviews with POLITICO that the message and issues Obama has emphasized since the election are creating a difficult political headwind for them.
Obama’s political choices, they say, reflect a tone-deafness to the challenges they face competing for moderate and conservative-leaning seats.
To net 17 seats and flip the chamber, Democrats have to win predominantly on GOP turf, in districts that Mitt Romney won and where Obama and his agenda are unpopular. A number of Democrats made clear in interviews that the more partisan posture Obama has adopted over the past few months — particularly on cultural issues like gun control, and to a lesser extent on immigration and gay marriage — is making an uphill slog that much steeper.
Read more: http://www.politico.com/story/2013/03/some-democrats-look-for-daylight-from-obama-88675.html#ixzz2NI1oghCF
moonbat betty
March 11th, 2013
10:50 pm
Obama is the biggest, dumbest, pawn ever utililized by the dems.
independent thinker
March 11th, 2013
10:52 pm
“”"”"”"”"”"”"n various settings, Rand Paul has described himself as a foreign policy “realist.” But this is not the ideology of Chuck Hagel or others skeptical of democracy promotion and nation-building. Paul’s “constitutional foreign policy” denies the legal basis for the war on terror, would place severe constraints on the executive in defending the nation and hints at the existence of an oppressive national security state.
These views are not new. They were central to Ron Paul’s presidential runs. But now they have an advocate who is more skilled, picks his fights better and possesses a larger platform. If the younger Paul runs for president in 2016, it will set up a lively debate on foreign policy fundamentals.
On the other side of that debate are two administrations and the majority of members of Congress from both parties who, since 9/11, have found the threat of terrorism both real and unappeasable. In this period, the American government, with congressional authorization, has destroyed terrorist training camps; undermined terrorist communications, fundraising and planning; targeted terrorist leaders; and disrupted at least 40 plots aimed at U.S. targets.
Far from perpetrating imaginary terrors on Americans, the government has protected them from real ones. Which is the reason that Republicans, in the end, cannot stand withRand.”"”"”"”"”"”"”"
Gerson in today’s Washington Post
getalife
March 11th, 2013
10:53 pm
” gas will be at $1.35/gallon, the EPA, Dept of Miseducation, Mediscare, Mediraid and Social Insecurity will all cease to exist! Amen, Bill”
That is hilarious
JamVet
March 11th, 2013
10:54 pm
What else could I do?
Not played such a simpleton for public amusement?
Just a thought…
JKL2
March 11th, 2013
10:55 pm
td- a feat that could make the difference between limping to the end of his presidency and going out with a bang.
How will we know the difference? You can only play so many rounds of golf a year.
getalife
March 11th, 2013
10:57 pm
Americans think the gop are moonbat crazy so good luck with that.
moonbat betty
March 11th, 2013
10:59 pm
getalife.
You are moonbat.
getalife
March 11th, 2013
11:07 pm
moonbat,
I am a proud Patriotic American.
A real American and you are even with us or against us.
moonbat betty
March 11th, 2013
11:10 pm
getalife,
can you throw down a shot of Wild Turkey 101?
Soothsayer
March 11th, 2013
11:10 pm
This here’s one of them kinda stories I like to post late at night for those inquisitive among you. You’re there but you ain’t really got much to say. Try this. Try reading for once. It’s called “What if?” You might find some enlightening information in there.
moonbat betty
March 11th, 2013
11:12 pm
getalife, shut your face.
or git f’d up.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iHSwaVeStXw
getalife
March 11th, 2013
11:19 pm
can you throw down a shot of Wild Turkey 101?
You betcha
moonbat betty
March 11th, 2013
11:25 pm
You would throw up in your mouth if you took a shot of the kickin’ chickin’, get.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H1iR2Wi3u5o
G Mare
March 12th, 2013
12:15 am
Sooth @ 11:10, thanks for the link. You might find a book called “The March Of Folly” by historian Barbara Tuchman ( sp?) interesting. She writes about various rulers etc., who kept to clearly contraindicated policies & the more or less disaterous results – King George III is one of the examples.
3d
March 12th, 2013
1:47 am
Anything’s better than what we have in DC now.
guy
March 12th, 2013
3:59 am
3d, Thanks for telling the true facts! Cloudodust is also a cool dude! JamVet,well,just a thought. I’ll never tell!
Thomas Heyward Jr
March 12th, 2013
6:50 am
Chris Mathews spookyly waving his hand in front of Bookman’s face—————
.
“These are NOT the drones you are looking for……………..Move along now..”
Fred ™
March 12th, 2013
7:05 am
Wow, the beer musta been flowing last night from reading the posts……… hell we even had one idiot talking about Obama phones…… and guy loving on him for it………
Joel Edge
March 12th, 2013
7:18 am
Thanks for your concern, Jay. Duly noted. Oddly enough a lot of commenters on twitter were wondering ‘where are the Democrats?’.
Mick
March 12th, 2013
7:19 am
Funny how when their is a democrat president, the deficit is the be all, end all, and must be balanced in ten years. Paul ryan is not anywhere near a concensus builder and his budget plans have been roundly rejected the past couple of years. He, and his party’s attitude goes something like this; when we are in the majority budget deficits don’t matter but when the opposition is in power, scream bloody murder…
Fred ™
March 12th, 2013
7:27 am
Mick, it’s also funny how when there is a Democratic President he is supposed to work 24/7 and NEVER take a day off. Also all of a sudden he’s evil for having Secret service, Air Force one, a chef, a driver ect………..
Talk radio and FOX have really catered to the stupid and the internet lets the stupid share with the world how stupid they are.
Normal, Plain and Simple
March 12th, 2013
7:27 am
Good morning to all y’all,
Mick,
Some people are genetically disposed to “stupid”, but Paul Ryan is a self made man…just sayin’
Unhappy Vet
March 12th, 2013
7:28 am
Hey Jay – you familiar with Mountain Pure Water Bottling Company and Duncan Outdoors, Inc., both situated in Arkansas and the DOJ strong arm tactics used to raid said companies? Eric Holder and his jack boot thugs have been trampling on the Constitution right and left (a 32% increase in these kinds of raids has been quoted to have occurred). The Department of Homeland Security has been buying ammunition at an outrageous rate (for what no one will say). Our government is increasing its control of each and every one of us. Does it therefore surprise you that there is push back and suspicion? Quit drinking the Kool Aid.
Fred ™
March 12th, 2013
7:32 am
The Department of Homeland Security has been buying ammunition at an outrageous rate (for what no one will say).
Smart people know why which is why you talk radio FOXBOTS are clueless. Don’t worry, Rush will keep scaring the depends off you with more lunacy.
You forgot to scream BENGHAZI and complain about the White house tours lol.
dcb
March 12th, 2013
7:32 am
As you speak on behalf of the liberal left, Jay – my first reaction to your comments here is “he (meaning you, Jay) protesteth too much!” I might have to watch this Rand guy more closely now. For all the dems have to fear right now is a decent candidate in ‘16.
independent thinker
March 12th, 2013
7:33 am
Mick – you are making fun of the stupid party’s former occupant of the clown car. Rand Paul and Ted Cruz are now in the front seat honking that GOP horn just lke Ryan and Romney did. Except these today truly believe being stupid and irrelevant is a winning strategy.
Mick
March 12th, 2013
7:35 am
I’m getting up there in age but if these conned ever get complete control, young people of today will rue the day that it happened when they reach their fifties and there is nothing left for them because with the conned it’s all about dismatling medicare and social security, sad…
Skip
March 12th, 2013
7:38 am
Can a jack booted thug be a union thug? Or is that a different job description>
Fred ™
March 12th, 2013
7:39 am
dcb: Your main premises is flawed. It is YOU, the silly talk radio FOXBOTS who live in fear. The rest of us aren’t afraid of crap. One day you will crawl out from under your bed and face this scary old world as a man not as a talk radio FOXBOT puppet and you will realize it’s a beautiful place and you have been lied to.
Mick
March 12th, 2013
7:40 am
Corporate thugs are the worst because they are idolized by the conned for paying them low wages – thank you sir may I have another???
Normal, Plain and Simple
March 12th, 2013
7:43 am
Unhappy Vet
March 12th, 2013
7:28 am
This post, above everything else, is why I fear for our country. That people can buy into that drivel is a mountain high statement about our education system. Educated people do not see Boogie Men behind every tree. We have the most benevolent country in the world, but there are people who want to take that away…and there are people out there too blinded by rhetoric to see the forest for the tree and are letting them. Mick’s 0735 is right on.
Fred ™
March 12th, 2013
7:43 am
Can a jack booted thug be a union thug? Or is that a different job description
Ever hear of the Fraternal Order of Police? How about The National Association of Police Organizations (NAPO)?
Google is your buddy, your pal, your friend. Use him.
BSNBC
March 12th, 2013
7:44 am
There is no future now but a bankrupt country!
Fred ™
March 12th, 2013
7:45 am
Normal: Don’t fear for our Country. That type of thinking will lead you to the Republicans as they feed fear and even create it. Be strong. We are here for you. Let Sean Hannity fear. Let his callers talk about their “fear” every time they call.
We are stronger than that.
dbm
March 12th, 2013
7:45 am
Mick
March 12th, 2013
7:35 am
Unless they put enough into IRA’s, 401K’s, and other investments to cover their retirement. If they’re young, they have a lot of time to let compound interest work for them. This works a lot better than government programs which use current contributions to pay current benefits.
Fred ™
March 12th, 2013
7:46 am
There is no future now but a bankrupt country!
See Normal? A typical fear induced post from a talk radio FOXBOT. Fear and hate, that is all they have. We aspire to more. We have joy, hope, and courage to sustain us, to battle their fear and hate.
Fred ™
March 12th, 2013
7:47 am
Unless they put enough into IRA’s, 401K’s, and other investments to cover their retirement. If they’re young, they have a lot of time to let compound interest work for them. This works a lot better than government programs which use current contributions to pay current benefits.
Yeah, let Bernie Madoff invest their cash. They can invest in Enron and World Com…………
Doggone/GA
March 12th, 2013
7:50 am
“Unless they put enough into IRA’s, 401K’s, and other investments to cover their retirement”
and if the stock market doesn’t crash and wipe it out. Which happened to me, twice.
dbm
March 12th, 2013
7:52 am
Fred ™
March 12th, 2013
7:47 am
Of course they need to diversify their investments so that even if some of their money turns out to be in such places as you suggest, they will still have a lot left. I thought that was well known.
Fred ™
March 12th, 2013
7:52 am
Oh well. I have to go make a couple of bucks. MAYBE by the time I get back someone will have rolled Jay out of bed and he will have new sheetz up………
Fred ™
March 12th, 2013
7:55 am
Of course they need to diversify their investments so that even if some of their money turns out to be in such places as you suggest, they will still have a lot left. I thought that was well known.
Apparently not to those who gave billions to Enron, WorldCom, and Madoff. Idiots like those folks who are paid to invest funds………
It also helps when someone like Bush helps banks tank the market and EVERYTHING goes in the toilet.
That stupid talk radio FOXBOT “privatize everything” mantra is about the most stupid thing ever. But thanks for playing.
dbm
March 12th, 2013
7:55 am
Doggone/GA
March 12th, 2013
7:50 am
If you leave your money in the stock market long enough, it will grow, even if there have been downturns. As you get close to retirement, you need to start gradually moving it out of stocks. I thought that was well known.
Doggone/GA
March 12th, 2013
8:00 am
“If you leave your money in the stock market long enough, it will grow, even if there have been downturns”
and if you are 60 years old and the stock market tanks you might not LIVE long enough to watch it grow. And my retirement was mostly in company stock which, at the time, I could NOT move “out of the stock market”
Fred ™
March 12th, 2013
8:00 am
If you leave your money in the stock market long enough, it will grow, even if there have been downturns. As you get close to retirement, you need to start gradually moving it out of stocks. I thought that was well known.
This guy is funny. Everything is so well know to him………. except the recent WORLDWIDE financial crash. What a hoot. I know I have to go, but this little feller is so funny it’s hard to break away……..
It is well known.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=foqUPiwMiOM
stands for decibels
March 12th, 2013
8:00 am
mornin’.
When I saw Jay’s headline, I thought immediately of these lyrics, surprised nobody else posted ‘em:
When there’s no future
How can there be sin
We’re the flowers in the dustbin
We’re the poison in your human machine
We’re the future, your future
TaxPayer
March 12th, 2013
8:00 am
The cons figger if they cannot have the future that they have conjured up then they prefer to have no future at all. A future without the cons protrayed by the likes of Rand “Rabbithole” Paul… I can live with that.
dbm
March 12th, 2013
8:01 am
Fred ™
March 12th, 2013
7:55 am
How badly were people who truly diversified hurt by Enron, WorldCom, and Madoff?
On your second point, please see my 7:55.
Thomas Heyward Jr
March 12th, 2013
8:02 am
Uncle Sam spookyly waving his hands in front of the face of gullible Normal Amerikans————–
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As scrutiny and debate over the use of remotely piloted aircraft (RPA) by the American military increased last month, the Air Force reversed a policy of sharing the number of airstrikes launched from RPAs in Afghanistan and quietly scrubbed those statistics from previous releases kept on their website.
Last October, Air Force Central Command started tallying weapons releases from RPAs, broken down into monthly updates. At the time, AFCENT spokeswoman Capt. Kim Bender said the numbers would be put out every month as part of a service effort to “provide more detailed information on RPA ops in Afghanistan.”
The Air Force maintained that policy for the statistics reports for November, December and January. But the February numbers, released March 7, contained empty space where the box of RPA statistics had previously been.
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http://www.airforcetimes.com/news/2013/03/air-force-drone-airstrike-summary-030813
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What drones?
Brown children?
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Forward Football!
Granny Godzilla
March 12th, 2013
8:03 am
Enter your comments here
Granny Godzilla
March 12th, 2013
8:04 am
It’s Rand Pauls party and Boehner will cry if he wants to!
You would cry to if it happened to you!
GT
March 12th, 2013
8:10 am
I think they should couple up some of these states that are thinly populated and allow only two senators for the two or three bald spots on the US map. Nuts grow best in these rural states that are now just getting modern conveniences.
Thomas
March 12th, 2013
8:12 am
Always interesting reading bravado- kind of like “if Cynthia Tucker or Jay Bookman is your lead op/ed writer the paper has no future.”
Anyway- another example of sick gov’t meets capitalism meets syrup meets tear homes down meets art museum and then hero status- all funded by the great American taxpayer
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-03-12/wall-street-100-million-man-makes-vermont-downton-abbey.html
Provided by a news organization that is owned by a billionaire who also is a mayor who looks in a mirror and see a throne and a crown. Careful all you little people- watch what you drink.
dbm
March 12th, 2013
8:12 am
Doggone/GA
March 12th, 2013
8:00 am
I’m sorry you made the mistake of depending so heavily on company stocks, and paid such a heavy price. Maybe a lot of these things are not as well known as I thought. But for a long time there have been people who knew it was a mistake to depend heavily on company stocks.
TaxPayer
March 12th, 2013
8:14 am
dbm needs reading comprehension lessons.
Mick
March 12th, 2013
8:15 am
dbm
That’s fine, but you pay into fica all your life practically as a firewall against living out your final years in abject poverty. For far too many, it’s all they’ve got…
dbm
March 12th, 2013
8:16 am
TaxPayer
March 12th, 2013
8:14 am
What did I not comprehend?
stands for decibels
March 12th, 2013
8:17 am
I think they should couple up some of these states that are thinly populated and allow only two senators for the two or three bald spots on the US map.
eh, screw that. Keep the state borders for sentimentality’s sake, and just abolish the Senate altogether. It’s well past its sell-by date. Double the number of Congrefscritters so that we have something approaching real representation and let the districting (hell, as long as I’m dreaming here) get peer-reviewed by some international human rights committee to reduce the fcrewage that goes on.
and, of course, directly elect the President. One person, one vote, like a civilized country would do it.
John Buck
March 12th, 2013
8:17 am
Well…In fairness, Bookman would never think the Republicans have a future unless they nominate a democrat. He’s not exactly the best source for political strategy.
TaxPayer
March 12th, 2013
8:19 am
dbm,
Doggone clearly stated that she did not have a say in how the company’s contribution to her “retirement” was allocated. That was also the case for many others. Enron for example.
stands for decibels
March 12th, 2013
8:20 am
As you get close to retirement, you need to start gradually moving it out of stocks.
Sure. Because most people’s financial lives follow a nice linear path, few if any unexpected expenses (particularly since we’ve had this crackerjack national health insurance policy all along for all of our working people!) and it’s easy for a median-incomed American to follow that advice.
Obviously we need to piratize Social Security so that everyone can experience this luscious, gooey-goodness freedom.
dbm
March 12th, 2013
8:21 am
Mick
March 12th, 2013
8:15 am
I did say “unless” in my first post here. The sooner people learn these things and implement them in their own lives, the better protected they will be in case FICA ends soon enough to affect them.
stands for decibels
March 12th, 2013
8:22 am
in case FICA ends soon enough to affect them.
if FICA “ends” so will the lives of many of our elected officials, and I’ll be sharpening up the pikes upon which their heads will be placed.
julia
March 12th, 2013
8:23 am
isn’t there an empty clown car needing a few clowns?
Doggone/GA
March 12th, 2013
8:28 am
“I’m sorry you made the mistake of depending so heavily on company stocks”
I’m sorry you don’t understand the my COMPANY retirement was heavily invested in my COMPANY stocks. How things are NOW isn’t how they ALWAYS WERE.
TaxPayer
March 12th, 2013
8:28 am
Doesn’t every retired person live off the interest income from their passbook savings account. hehehe.
stands for decibels
March 12th, 2013
8:29 am
isn’t there an empty clown car needing a few clowns?
Set your news.google alert to “Iowa straw poll” and you’ll learn when they load it up.
dbm
March 12th, 2013
8:30 am
TaxPayer
March 12th, 2013
8:19 am
She did not make that point clear in her 8:00.
If you start young, it doesn’t take much to build up your own big retirement account free of any such rules.
We started messing up health insurance at least as far back as when FDR imposed wage and price controls, making it necessary for companies to use benefits to compete for workers. People who have problems with their health insurance, or lack thereof, need to make it that much higher a priority to save and invest, starting when they are young.
TaxPayer
March 12th, 2013
8:31 am
dbm has drank the Flavoraid concentrate. Dilute that stuff with a minimum of ten parts water to one part concentrate so you don’t get such a sugary rush.
dixie normous
March 12th, 2013
8:31 am
Jimmy Kimmel proves just how stupid obama voters are. He told them obama was sending sequester to Portugal, did they support this. They thought obama was doing the right thing. You obamabots are so dumb its tragic.
dbm
March 12th, 2013
8:32 am
Sorry, the last paragraph of my 8:30 should have been addressed to
stands for decibels
March 12th, 2013
8:20 am
Doggone/GA
March 12th, 2013
8:35 am
“If you start young, it doesn’t take much to build up your own big retirement account free of any such rules”
GREAT advice. do you happen to have a time machine that will let me go back 40 years…so I can start over?
stands for decibels
March 12th, 2013
8:35 am
Doesn’t every retired person live off the interest income from their passbook savings account. hehehe.
Every retired person with — lessee, carry the two… over a million in the bank. a-yep.
Meanwhile, the median net worth of Americans at age 65? Anyone know what the number was as of, say, 2010?
Mick
March 12th, 2013
8:35 am
dbm
As if benefits are a bad thing? You know as we flow thru history society progresses and collectively benefits from the knowledge and technology. Not too many people looking for 40 acres and a mule anymore…
straitroad
March 12th, 2013
8:36 am
Nothing Rand Paul did deprived me of life or liberty. I cannot say the same of some of the actions perpetrated by the president.
stands for decibels
March 12th, 2013
8:37 am
the last paragraph of my 8:30 should have been addressed to
stands for decibels
Thanks for trying, but…I’ve heard this glibertarian nonsense for decades and it makes less sense now than it did back when I was somewhat receptive to that Forbes/WSJ axis-of-evil rhetoric.
dbm
March 12th, 2013
8:38 am
stands for decibels
March 12th, 2013
8:22 am
FICA won’t end until enough people realize why it needs to. The most crucial reason actually is that government is force, and it is unethical to use force for other purposes than defense. It will be a while yet before enough people realize this. Maybe quite a while.
Doggone/GA
March 12th, 2013
8:38 am
“Nothing Rand Paul did deprived me of life or liberty”
Are you dead or in jail?
dbm
March 12th, 2013
8:40 am
Doggone/GA
March 12th, 2013
8:35 am
Sorry, I can’t help you with that, but the young people I was talking about in my original post in this discussion have a better chance.
Granny Godzilla
March 12th, 2013
8:41 am
straitroad
March 12th, 2013
8:36 am
Nothing Rand Paul did deprived me of life or liberty. I cannot say the same of some of the actions perpetrated by the president.
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The President deprived you of your life?
Seem pretty perky for a dead guy.
Doggone/GA
March 12th, 2013
8:41 am
“Sorry, I can’t help you with that, but the young people I was talking about in my original post in this discussion have a better chance”
Sure, because EVERYONE is a stock market/bond market genius and has plenty of time to manage their investments. Yup, no doubt about it.
Granny Godzilla
March 12th, 2013
8:41 am
Government is force?
snicker
dbm
March 12th, 2013
8:42 am
Doggone/GA
March 12th, 2013
8:35 am
Benefits are a good thing if done right. Government creating hindrances and distortions that force companies to do it wrong is a bad thing.
Doggone/GA
March 12th, 2013
8:42 am
“Government creating hindrances and distortions that force companies to do it wrong is a bad thing”
got proof?
TaxPayer
March 12th, 2013
8:45 am
Someone send straitroad a cake with a file in it. The poor guy needs our help.
Obama Kills
March 12th, 2013
8:45 am
Obama already kills americans with-out due process.
Keep Up the Good Fight!
March 12th, 2013
8:46 am
The President deprived you of your life?
I got better.
dbm
March 12th, 2013
8:46 am
Doggone/GA
March 12th, 2013
8:41 am
It doesn’t take genius or huge amounts of time to make good provisions for retirement. It does take some thought and some time.
If a person is a genius in these matters and devotes a lot of time to them, that person will probably get very rich.
Thomas Heyward Jr
March 12th, 2013
8:47 am
As Paul Krugman’s hand waves spookyly in front of Normal Amerikan’ sR versus D bovine faces————
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One thing we could do is simply make up the projected 27 percent shortfall in Social Security benefits through RAISING THE MINIMUM WAGE.
Social Security is mainly funded by a flat tax on all wages up to $110,100 per year (going up to $113,700 in 2013). The more people earn, the more tax they pay (up to that level).
There are no deductions and no exemptions. Every additional dollar earned by poor and middle-income people translates directly into higher Social Security tax receipts.
Thus a doubling of the minimum wage from $7.25 to $14.50 an hour would result in a doubling of the Social Security taxes paid by minimum wage earners.
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http://inequality.org/save-social-security-raise-minimum-wage/
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sheeesh
That’s not from the onion.
TaxPayer
March 12th, 2013
8:47 am
I predict claims that de-regulation will set us free coming to a blog post near you.
dbm
March 12th, 2013
8:48 am
Granny Godzilla
March 12th, 2013
8:41 am
Please stop and think. Why can government do things other institutions can’t? What would happen if government couldn’t use force?
stands for decibels
March 12th, 2013
8:48 am
Obama already kills americans with-out due process.
Polly want a cracker?
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(I know, I know–Polly ALREADY a cracker…)
dbm
March 12th, 2013
8:50 am
Doggone/GA
March 12th, 2013
8:42 am
Just look at the mess health insurance got into because it got tied to employment.
stands for decibels
March 12th, 2013
8:50 am
Thus a doubling of the minimum wage from $7.25 to $14.50 an hour would result in a doubling of the Social Security taxes paid by minimum wage earners.
But we can’t because SOCIALISM so SHUT UP! the Job Producers might go Galt.
Mick
March 12th, 2013
8:50 am
dbm
Ever hear of the social safety net? Obviously you don’t subscribe but during the great depression there was an elderly population of paupers, we collectively took a look at that and said never again. It was the right choice for sure as many who have lost everything at the very minimum get social security and medicare. Not much to expect from the “richest” and “greatest” country on earth, right???
TaxPayer
March 12th, 2013
8:51 am
“The con will spread the word that they are not safe from the drone even on US soil.” – Obama-wan-Kinobe
indigo
March 12th, 2013
8:51 am
Thomas Heyward, Jr. – 8:02
Your constant criticism of our military air strikes in Afghanistan and Pakistan indicates you’d like us to just give Islamic terrorists a free pass.
These are the same people who are trying, among other things, to get their hands on nukes and smuggle them into the US.
If they succeed in doing this and New York goes up in nucelar smoke, will your heart still bleed for those poor terriorists we keep killing?
Just out of curiosity, do you bow down towards Mecca five times a day?
TaxPayer
March 12th, 2013
8:53 am
Why can government do things other institutions can’t?
Because they get a much better return on their investment in Swiss banks and the Caymans.
stands for decibels
March 12th, 2013
8:53 am
Just out of curiosity, do you bow down towards Mecca five times a day?
Apparently this is a Bad Thing to do.
Brosephus™
March 12th, 2013
8:54 am
Unless they put enough into IRA’s, 401K’s, and other investments to cover their retirement. If they’re young, they have a lot of time to let compound interest work for them. This works a lot better than government programs which use current contributions to pay current benefits.
I’ll let the founder of a mutual fund tell you about that….
John C. Bogle
Founder, Vanguard mutual fund firm
Investors should realize [they] don’t get the market return. In a 9 percent market, we all share 9 percent before we pay the cost of financial intermediation, and after we pay those costs, which are about 2.5 percent a year, we get 6.5 percent on a 9 percent market.
So if I do your average, what percentage of my net growth is going to fees in a 401(k) plan?
Well, it’s awesome. Let me give you a little longer-term example: … an individual who is 20 years old today starting to accumulate for retirement. That person has about 45 years to go before retirement — 20 to 65 — and then, if you believe the actuarial tables, another 20 years to go before death mercifully brings his or her life to a close. So that’s 65 years of investing. If you invest $1,000 at the beginning of that time and earn 8 percent, that $1,000 will grow … to around $140,000.
Now, the financial system — the mutual fund system in this case — will take about two and a half percentage points out of that return, so you will have … a net return of 5.5 percent, and your $1,000 will grow to approximately $30,000. One hundred ten thousand dollars goes to the financial system and $30,000 to you, the investor. Think about that. That means the financial system put up zero percent of the capital and took zero percent of the risk and got almost 80 percent of the return, and you, the investor in this long time period, an investment lifetime, put up 100 percent of the capital, took 100 percent of the risk, and got only a little bit over 20 percent of the return. That is a financial system that is failing investors because of those costs of financial advice and brokerage, some hidden, some out in plain sight, that investors face today. So the system has to be fixed.
I’ve got to unscramble what you just said. You said that in the case of the $1,000 invested for 65 years, the financial system is taking 80 percent of the money. But most of us aren’t doing that. In the first place, at 20 we’re out spending it; we’re not putting it away. But set that aside. We’re really talking about people who are probably saving from 35 or 40 or 45 at best for retirement at 55, 60 or 65. and they are plunking the money away into 401(k)s. I’m just asking you, in that system, roughly what chunk of it are people getting back themselves out of their gains, and what chunk of that is going to go to the financial system for managing their money?
Well, in the long run, it’s 80 percent to the financial system, 20 percent to you. In a given year, it’s about 80 percent to you and 20 percent to the financial system, so if you look at 10 years or 15 years, you’re probably talking about 60 percent to you and 40 percent to the financial system maybe over 20 years, something like that. But the longer the period, the greater the impact of that tyranny of compounding costs is.
Compounding interest doesn’t work for you. It works for the investment firm or whomever you give your 401k account. Compounding costs eat up your compounding interest like pacman on a ghost monster.
stands for decibels
March 12th, 2013
8:57 am
during the great depression there was an elderly population of paupers
Do you think if we were to strap down Paul Ryan and force-feed him John Steinbeck’s The Grapes of Wrath one wadded-up page at a time, more Americans might become aware of that?
Not saying it’s an especially good idea. Just thinking out loud here.
TaxPayer
March 12th, 2013
8:57 am
If only dbm would share his investing expertise with everyone. We could all retire one day with our own personalized wealth capable of sustaining us in our later years. I also hear you can see the world at no cost by joining the army.
Markoo
March 12th, 2013
8:59 am
And if Jay Bookman is your newspaper’s future, it has no future.
But then, the AJC is pretty much already dead. Only those still working there haven’t accepted that fact yet.
Welcome to the Occupation
March 12th, 2013
9:00 am
dbm: “I did say “unless” in my first post here. The sooner people learn these things and implement them in their own lives, the better protected they will be in case FICA ends soon enough to affect them.”
Why would they want to do that when they can form a political movement and secure their true share of the society’’s wealth that they’ve helped to produce?
Thomas
March 12th, 2013
9:00 am
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-03-11/paulson-said-to-explore-puerto-rico-as-home-with-low-tax.html
Capitalism- scratch that- thievery at is worst. So you mad billions by going to Goldman, having them buy residential mortgages- package and sell to Citi, Bear, Lehman- and then you short. Brilliant!! Have fun in Puerto Rico- have a drink on the American taxpayer
dbm
March 12th, 2013
9:00 am
Mick
March 12th, 2013
8:50 am
The solution is for government to stop interfering in ways that make business cycles worse. For example, when Hoover tried to fight the Depression by propping up wages and prices, he priced people, goods, and services out of the market, making things worse.
Steve
March 12th, 2013
9:01 am
And then there’s Paul Ryan:
Eugene Robinson at The Washington Post looks at the overhyped, under-competent Paul Ryan and his flawed budget plan:
Voters were supposed to believe that Ryan was an apostle of fiscal rectitude. But his real aim wasn’t to balance the budget. It was to starve the federal government of revenue. Big government, in his worldview, is inherently bad — never mind that we live in an awfully big country.
Ryan and Mitt Romney offered their vision, President Obama offered his, and Americans made their choice. Rather emphatically.
Now Ryan, as chairman of the House Budget Committee, is coming back with an ostensibly new and improved version of the framework that voters rejected in November. Judging by the preview he offered Sunday, the new plan is even less grounded in reality than was the old one.
Granny Godzilla
March 12th, 2013
9:02 am
dbm
March 12th, 2013
8:48 am
Granny Godzilla
March 12th, 2013
8:41 am
Please stop and think.
Why can government do things other institutions can’t?
It is our duly elected government.
What would happen if government couldn’t use force?
You’d get away with cheating the rest of us
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Geez, you are starting to sound like a good old fashioned anarchist!
dbm
March 12th, 2013
9:06 am
Brosephus™
March 12th, 2013
8:54 am
So unless the tax break makes up for that, we should look for other ways of investing.
Speaking of taxes, a lot of things will work better once we cut government back to its proper functions.
Welcome to the Occupation
March 12th, 2013
9:07 am
stands: “Do you think if we were to strap down Paul Ryan and force-feed him John Steinbeck’s The Grapes of Wrath one wadded-up page at a time, more Americans might become aware of that?”
He’s not a stupid man in that way. He KNOWS about the suffering. It’s just that his ideology shields him from caring.
And it’s even worse than that. He sees the suffering perfectly well, only he thinks it’s good for people to suffer. That’s the natural order of things working its way out. The suffering is what motivates the unfortunate to optimize their choices and change them in the future — if they can. And if they can, they join the ranks of the producers and the self-sufficient. But if they’re too weak or unable to do so, then that’s their deserved fate.
Jeffrey
March 12th, 2013
9:07 am
So, say a guy is driving , oh a truck bomb. Say towards a Federal courthouse. Not that this would ever happen! And we had the opportunity to hit that truck with a Hellfire missile in a rural area thereby keeping the loss of life to a minimum. Is there anyone who can argue that that wasn’t justified? I find it odd that the same people who are screaming about Obama concivably taking out a Klan rally also are 100% in favor of stand your ground laws!
dbm
March 12th, 2013
9:08 am
TaxPayer
March 12th, 2013
8:57 am
I’m not claiming expertise. But I do understand a few things.
dbm
March 12th, 2013
9:09 am
Welcome to the Occupation
March 12th, 2013
9:00 am
Can you be more specific?
Brosephus™
March 12th, 2013
9:11 am
So unless the tax break makes up for that, we should look for other ways of investing.
Speaking of taxes, a lot of things will work better once we cut government back to its proper functions.
How would a tax break make up with the investment house running off with 80% of your compounded interest without investing a penny of their own money over the course of your lifetime? It’s not government’s job to give you a tax break because you willfully allowed someone to rob you blind just for the opportunity to earn a little money for retirement.
Adam
March 12th, 2013
9:12 am
Bottom line on Rand Paul: He did nothing but filibuster a nomination. No new legislation has been even presented to committee to either define “enemy combatant” in legal terms to settle that issue, nor has any legislation been produced to repeal certain aspects of the Patriot Act and other war powers and NDAA provisions that give the President over-the-top authorities that the founding fathers would cringe at. Rand Paul himself has offered no such legislation, nor has anyone else.
Rand Paul is no hero. If he really cared about this stuff, he would produce legislation instead of (or in addition to) grandstanding a filibuster speech. At least then his concerns would be addressed.
Congress has the power here. Why aren’t they producing legislation to put these issues to rest?
dbm
March 12th, 2013
9:13 am
Granny Godzilla
March 12th, 2013
9:02 am
Government isn’t magic. It has power because it can use force. You seem to be admitting as much toward the end of your post, although you defame me by suggesting I would be one of the cheaters. Please think some more.
USMC-FoxbotAlpha
March 12th, 2013
9:15 am
“If Detroit is your party’s future, it has no future”–
Where Hope ‘n’ Changey ran off the road!
For Detroit, a Crisis Born of Bad Decisions and Crossed Fingers
http://www.nytimes.com/2013/03/12/us/for-detroit-a-financial-crisis-was-long-coming.html?hp&_r=0
If you do nothing else, read the last sentence of the article at the bottom of page 2.
Doggone/GA
March 12th, 2013
9:17 am
“It doesn’t take genius or huge amounts of time to make good provisions for retirement. It does take some thought and some time”
It’s easy to see that you have not ever been among the truly poverty stricken. Your arrogance about ability shines through.
Thomas Heyward Jr
March 12th, 2013
9:17 am
indigo
March 12th, 2013
8:51 am
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Just out of curiosity, do you bow down towards Mecca five times a day?
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As Bill Krystal spookyly waves a hand in front of Indigo’s bovine cud-chewing face—————–
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Islam is baaaaaaaad………………..
Statism is gooooooooooooood……………………..
Bow down.
Bow down DEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEP…to the Lincoln Memorial”
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What Bill of Rights?
What’s a Habeious Corpus?
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i have entirely too much disposable income.
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Dumb and Dumber
March 12th, 2013
9:17 am
Thank God someone stood up for individuals’ rights in this country. Senator Paul filibustered because the AG did not categorically say that the President wouldn’t order a strike inside the US against a US citizen. I kind of like our Enlightened Dictator not being able to be judge, jury, and executor. Call me crazy.
TBone
March 12th, 2013
9:18 am
Man Rand Paul must really be perceived as a threat to the left if the attack dogs are already attempting to smear him, a favorite ploy of the left.
dbm
March 12th, 2013
9:19 am
Brosephus™
March 12th, 2013
9:11 am
If what you imply is true, we should just look for other ways of investing.
When I spoke of a tax break, I was describing what is, not what should be.
Our entire system of financing government needs to be radically reformed. But we can’t do this until we cut government back to its proper functions.
Steve
March 12th, 2013
9:19 am
Rand Paul is a Kentucky whack job, and luckily most Americans know that.
td
March 12th, 2013
9:19 am
Doggone/GA
March 12th, 2013
9:17 am
“It’s easy to see that you have not ever been among the truly poverty stricken.”
Why are people poverty stricken?
Lt Col Razorback
March 12th, 2013
9:19 am
Jay,
“Methinks thou doest protest too much!” The simple fact that liberals, like you, call defense of constitutional rights “nonsensical” is a marvelous sign that exactly what you say means the opposite of what you said – denoting that Rand Paul would make a formidable candidate to oppose Biden, Clinton, or whoever the Democrats choose to TRY to retain the White House in 2016.
After my 24 years in the Air Force, I would gladly go back to uphold my oath to defend the Constitution of the United States – by NOT defending the current Commander-in-Chief — who is the greatest threat to the Constitution in many, many years!
TaxPayer
March 12th, 2013
9:20 am
But I do understand a few things.
How novel.
dbm
March 12th, 2013
9:20 am
I have to go now. I’ve been naughty even staying this long. Maybe I can check back later.
Steve
March 12th, 2013
9:21 am
Razorback, you really want to publicly declare that you’re a traitor?
moonbat betty
March 12th, 2013
9:23 am
“Do you think if we were to strap down Paul Ryan and force-feed him John Steinbeck’s The Grapes of Wrath one wadded-up page at a time, more Americans might become aware of that?”
stands, I think the CIA could use you for some new interrogation techniques! lol
Heyward-
“As Bill Krystal spookyly waves a hand in front of Indigo’s bovine cud-chewing face”
lol!
Thanks for the giggles this morning, gentleman.
TaxPayer
March 12th, 2013
9:24 am
Speaking of taxes, a lot of things will work better once we cut government back to its proper functions.
But what will become of prim.
TaxPayer
March 12th, 2013
9:25 am
Razorback yearns a life sentence in Levenworth.
moonbat betty
March 12th, 2013
9:27 am
“a Kentucky whack job”
Is that what the kids are calling it nowadays?
Welcome to the Occupation
March 12th, 2013
9:29 am
Brosephus: “Think about that. That means the financial system put up zero percent of the capital and took zero percent of the risk and got almost 80 percent of the return, and you, the investor in this long time period, an investment lifetime, put up 100 percent of the capital, took 100 percent of the risk, and got only a little bit over 20 percent of the return. That is a financial system that is failing investors because of those costs of financial advice and brokerage, some hidden, some out in plain sight, that investors face today. So the system has to be fixed”
Yep. Sure sounds like the capitalism I know.
Progressive, Liberal, Lefty
March 12th, 2013
9:30 am
Holy crap! RP perpetrated a stunt clearly designed to garner a little publicity. He got that, but that’s all he got. Being from KY he may be in the Senate for a long time, but he’ll never be relevant. He and others like him will be significant factors in determining the same fate for their party.
Brosephus™
March 12th, 2013
9:30 am
dbm: If what you imply is true, we should just look for other ways of investing.
When I spoke of a tax break, I was describing what is, not what should be.
I imply nothing. Those words were from John Bogle. He’s one of the founders of Vanguard Mutual fund. If he says compounding fees does that, I think he knows better than both you and I.
As for finding other ways to invest in retirement, you must not realize that ALL investing is controlled by investment banks and groups. Unless you put money in a mattress, you’re gonna pay someone to invest your money for you. They are going to profit whether your investment grows or not.
As for funding the government, we’ve survived more than 200 years as is. We don’t need to change a thing. We need to stop people from intentionally wrecking things just to claim that things don’t work. That’s a big difference.
Mick
March 12th, 2013
9:30 am
Roll out the fainting couch for the razorback or wimpus interuptus…
YouLibs
March 12th, 2013
9:32 am
TBone
I hear Rand Paul is not a legal U. S. citizen.
You mean that kind of liberal smear stuff?
Brosephus™
March 12th, 2013
9:33 am
Welcome
I didn’t realize that until a poster linked that program a few years ago. Since then, I’ve looked into things, and it’s like night and day.
Thomas Heyward Jr
March 12th, 2013
9:34 am
moonbat betty
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thank yew………. ma’am.
.
I gotta go…but beware of that Jedi Spokian Mind melding.
it’s happening everywheres….although those who value liberty and can think for themselves( or even think)……………are usually immune.
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Forward Freedom!
Welcome to the Occupation
March 12th, 2013
9:34 am
I have a feeling Jay Bookman and many other Obama supporters think capitalism is doing just fine, that with the stock market soaring and the job situation looking better numerically, things are really on the mend.
I don’t share their enthusiasm. I’m with Mr. Evans-Pritchard:
Sputtering global economy belies stockmarket boom
Asia’s economic recovery is losing momentum and Europe’s slump is proving deeper than expected, raising concerns that soaring stock markets globally have jumped ahead of economic reality.
Japan’s closely-watched index for machinery orders fell 13pc in January, nearing levels last seen after the Lehman Brothers crisis. “It is a shockingly poor number and illustrates the divergence between the improvement in sentiment in financial markets and what is actually happening on the ground,” said Julian Jessop from Capital Economics.
China’s industrial output rose 0.6pc in January and 0.8pc in February, the slowest pace since early last year. Retail sales growth dropped to 12.3pc, the weakest since early 2004. “The goal of consumer-led growth remains a pipe dream for now,” said the group’s China economist, Qinwei Wang. “The economic rebound may already be stalling.”
The US economy is holding up, as cheap shale gas drives a manufacturing revival, but Charles Dumas from Lombard Street Research said America still has to navigate the most drastic fiscal squeeze since the Second World War. “We think tightening will be 2.5pc of GDP this year and that will hit profits,” he said. “We expect a 10-20pc correction in the S&P 500.”
While the US unemployment rate dropped to 7.7pc in February – the lowest since 2008 – this was entirely due to a fall in the “participation rate” to a fresh low of 63.5pc, as people dropped off the rolls. Jobs figures are a lagging indicator in any case. Commodities can be a better gauge and they are flashing amber, refusing to confirm that a fresh cycle of global expansion is fully under way.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/globalbusiness/9923506/Sputtering-global-economy-belies-stockmarket-boom.html
dixie normous
March 12th, 2013
9:34 am
Hard to believe the same morons that oppose waterboarding for the terrorist that murdered over 3000 AMERICANS now find it ok for obama to murder AMERICANS.
dixie normous
March 12th, 2013
9:37 am
OBAMABOT INDICTED FOR VOTING FOR ZERO SIX TIMES!!
Mick
March 12th, 2013
9:38 am
welcome
Nothing like a good dose of gloom and doom to brighten the workday…
YouLibs
March 12th, 2013
9:39 am
dixie normous
It’s also hard to believe that the western skyline eats the sun every afternoon and then craps it out of the eastern skyline every morning.
stands for decibels
March 12th, 2013
9:40 am
He’s not a stupid man in that way. He KNOWS about the suffering. It’s just that his ideology shields him from caring.
This isn’t about changing Paul Ryan. It’s about making him suffer, horribly, for a very long time. (Given that it’s a long book and it would take a long time to eat the whole thing.) I thought that was obvious.
And if the so-called liberal media got around to reporting what that very long book he was being force-fed was actually ABOUT, maybe some people might remember “hey, once upon a time we didn’t have Medicare, and Social Security was barely under way, and people had it really, really sh-tty back then, and we probably shouldn’t go back to that, and people who say we should are wankers and deserve to have long novels force-fed to them one wadded up page at a time.”
Again, just thinking out loud.
Brosephus™
March 12th, 2013
9:40 am
Mick
You’re really not gonna like what I was just reading then…
The price of West Texas Intermediate (WTI) crude oil is set to plummet to $75 per barrel as increased use of shale oil in the U.S. blots out demand for the energy source, one expert told CNBC.
Andrew Su, CEO of Sydney-based commodities trading firm Compass Global Markets, gave a bearish forecast for WTI on CNBC’s “Asia Squawk Box” on Tuesday, saying its value would drop around 18 percent in value by the end of the second quarter of 2013 and even further beyond that.
“Shale oil is the reason why oil prices fell last year and the reason why it will continue to fall in the next few years,” said Su.
“Shale oil will reshape the way that the entire oil industry is run and the U.S. will become an exporter of oil in next five to 10 years. That will have a significant impact on the U.S. and the global economy,” he added.
http://www.cnbc.com/id/100544785?__source=yahoo%7Cheadline%7Cother%7Ctext%7C&par=yahoo
dixie normous
March 12th, 2013
9:41 am
Obama voters are the dumbest people in the country. They supported his pick of palin to be his VP. LMAO. And now they support zero sending sequester to portugal because they need protection.
JamVet
March 12th, 2013
9:42 am
After my 24 years in the Air Force, I would gladly go back to uphold my oath to defend the Constitution of the United States – by NOT defending the current Commander-in-Chief — who is the greatest threat to the Constitution in many, many years!
Airman, you are a Grade A nutjob…
dixie normous
March 12th, 2013
9:43 am
Rand Paul has that one thing obama and his idiot followers lack. common sense.
stands for decibels
March 12th, 2013
9:44 am
And now they support zero sending sequester to portugal because they need protection.
dixie o’lithic, more like.
dixie normous
March 12th, 2013
9:45 am
Airman you sir are a great American patriot. Thank you for your service to the nation. Something obama fools know nothing about.
dixie normous
March 12th, 2013
9:47 am
Decib. its a fact. Kimmel asked you guys if it was a good idea that zero was sending sequester to portugal. you said GREAT IDEA. Thats how dumb you are.
dixie normous
March 12th, 2013
9:48 am
IDIOT OBAMABOTS
http://www.ijreview.com/2013/03/40722-pure-gold-jimmy-kimmel-asks-people-about-obama-pardoning-the-sequester-sending-it-to-portugal/
Mick
March 12th, 2013
9:48 am
brosephus
I’m ok wit dat…my next vehicle will be electric but right now only two more truck payments left then….freedom from the car knot, at least for a couple of years…
Mick
March 12th, 2013
9:49 am
dixie
Paranoia will destroy ya…
Recon 0311 2533
March 12th, 2013
9:49 am
How Democrats win elections.
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013/03/11/cincinnati-poll-worker-charged-with-voting-half-dozen-times-in-november/
stands for decibels
March 12th, 2013
9:49 am
good idea that zero was sending sequester to portugal. you said GREAT IDEA. booga booga. ugg ugg.
anyone here speak Eolithic?
Erwin's cat
March 12th, 2013
9:51 am
new troll?
Fred ™
March 12th, 2013
9:53 am
No EC, same troll, different alt. If I had to bet I would say Jm.
dixie normous
March 12th, 2013
9:54 am
obamabots get asked the most rediculous things and as long as they think obama supports it then they support it too. dumb people like obama voters is why this country is doomed.
dixie normous
March 12th, 2013
9:56 am
How Democrats win elections.
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013/03/11/cincinnati-poll-worker-charged-with-voting-half-dozen-times-in-november/
we should have a real President right now instead on the clown occupying the white house.
JamVet
March 12th, 2013
9:57 am
Erwin, it’s the same old [tchy Christian troll.
If this was Little League Baseball, they would have called the mercy rule on him long ago…
dixie normous
March 12th, 2013
9:57 am
Interviews with obamabots. Real dumb people.
http://realclearpolitics.com/video/2012/09/24/howard_stern_interviews_obama_supporters_2012.html
Normal, Plain and Simple
March 12th, 2013
9:58 am
Unhappy Vet
March 12th, 2013
7:28 am
With statements like that, it’s hard to believe anyone would take you seriously too…
———————————
Del,
Did you suffer a head wound in ‘Nam? This love affair you have with Fox News makes me think so. I know you can’t be that radical.
Mick
March 12th, 2013
9:58 am
dixie
The country will be doomed with backward ideas that you seem to support. Republicans are for the rich plain and simple, unfortunately, the middle class will not let them take it all, try as they might. They certainly have enough water carriers willing to do their bidding but not enough naives – yet…
dixie normous
March 12th, 2013
9:58 am
shouldnt we pity obamabots because of their stupidity? i would say yes if they werent destroying the country.
Fred ™
March 12th, 2013
9:59 am
oh crap Mick. Ignore the troll and it gets bored. You just ensured us another 50 spams at least.
Brosephus™
March 12th, 2013
9:59 am
If this was Little League Baseball, they would have called the mercy rule on him long ago…
Normal, Plain and Simple
March 12th, 2013
9:59 am
…and then there’s Dixie…What? Is Kyles blog on the fritz?
dixie normous
March 12th, 2013
10:00 am
Mick, i have provided two videos of people JUST LIKE YOU. Go look in the mirror. Watch the videos and maybe, just maybe you will see how stupid you are.
Recon 0311 2533
March 12th, 2013
10:00 am
Normal, You can’t pick and choose what’s factual news based on personal preference.
DannyX
March 12th, 2013
10:02 am
“If this was Little League Baseball, they would have called the mercy rule on him long ago…”
Definitely the right fielder playing only 2 innings a game. He certainly does not got game. Trying to troll with a Jimmy Kimmel skit! Lol.
Mick
March 12th, 2013
10:02 am
dixie
That’s funny…being called stupid by the likes of you is a high compliment!
fred
It’s only tuesday, what are you gonna do???
Welcome to the Occupation
March 12th, 2013
10:02 am
Don’t you just love it when Jay Bookman sings in perfect unison with the neocons?
Consider the following, for example. Sounds like it could have come from Jay Bookman’s own pen.
Rand Paul masks his true worldview
Since arriving in the Senate in 2011, Rand Paul has been probing here and there for issues of populist resonance. Audit the secretive, sinister Federal Reserve. Rein in those TSA screeners patting down little girls. In each instance, Paul (R-Ky.) has evoked the fear of oppressive government without tipping over into the paranoia of his father’s most dedicated supporters. It has been a diluted, domesticated, decaffeinated version of the ideology that motivated Ron Paul’s presidential races.
On drones, Rand Paul finally hit pay dirt. Thanks to his filibuster, Americans can now feel safe that if they are “typing e-mails in a cafe,” they will not be “summarily executed” by a Hellfire missile. This has admittedly not been a large problem since 9/11. Paul is careful to point out that he is concerned about the possible abuses of some future, Hitler-like president. (Though one imagines the advent of a Hitler-like president would present problems other than drone policy.)
http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/michael-gerson-rand-pauls-populism-masks-his-true-worldview/2013/03/11/22fd5718-8a75-11e2-8d72-dc76641cb8d4_story.html
dixie normous
March 12th, 2013
10:02 am
so how many of you zerohero nuts want obama to pardon sequester and send it to portugal. lmao
dixie normous
March 12th, 2013
10:03 am
Mick, if you watched the videos of you people even YOU would think you are pretty stupid.
dixie normous
March 12th, 2013
10:04 am
how many of you voted for obama 6 or more times?
dixie normous
March 12th, 2013
10:06 am
How obama won.
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013/03/11/cincinnati-poll-worker-charged-with-voting-half-dozen-times-in-november/
Redneck Convert (R--and proud of it)
March 12th, 2013
10:07 am
Well, I see all kind of gloom and doom about the future of the economy in this country.
I say we got a fine future. Now that all the factories moved overseas. we can support ourselfs by fixing each other’s washing machines and ripping each other off at banks and such.
And this here paper is a fine example of American brainpower at work. No money’s coming in, so some young feller comes to management and says, “Let’s put all kind of annoying ads on our web site and bug the sh_t out of readers till they give up and go out and buy what we put out ads for.” And management says, “Sounds like a winner to me.” And so we get ads that block your reading and ads that pop up if your cursor is just a teeny bit off-target and ads up the wazoo.
That’s American brains at work. So what if the guvmint gives tax breaks to cos. that move our jobs overseas? We got ways of making up for that.
Things is looking up!
Have a good Tuesday everyboy.
stands for decibels
March 12th, 2013
10:07 am
Forced-to-eat-Steinbeck SHEETZ.
dixie normous
March 12th, 2013
10:10 am
In 2004, Kilpatrick was a keynote speaker at the Democratic National Convention in Boston with then Sen. Barack Obama. Years later, Obama went to the White House and Kilpatrick sunk into insurmountable legal troubles that now will send him to prison for a very long time. How quickly things change and to see history come full circle in this way is a big loss for Detroit because the former mayor was talented but decided to use his talents for something other than upholding the public trust.
TBone
March 12th, 2013
10:10 am
“I hear Rand Paul is not a legal U. S. citizen.
You mean that kind of liberal smear stuff?”
Why don’t you ask him to shpw you his certificate? I bet he won’t mind a bit.
dixie normous
March 12th, 2013
10:12 am
The difference between kilpatrick and obama is that obama has the govt protecting him. he is just as guilty.
JamVet
March 12th, 2013
10:12 am
[tchy Christian is not the only one on an impressive losing streak.
If the next two decades are anything like the last two, the presidential outlook for Republicans is pretty bleak. Yet even while digesting some earlier defeats, conservatives could take a bit of comfort from the notion that Democrats had been forced to move toward the center to become competitive again…
Del says what??? (LOL!)
http://www.weeklystandard.com/articles/losing-streak_699207.html?page=2
dixie normous
March 12th, 2013
10:13 am
obama cannot find his college records. he lost them the day after he got in college as a foreign exchange student.
JamVet
March 12th, 2013
10:16 am
Yep, the GOP’s fascistic obsession with people’s “documents” has proven to be a real winner for them.
Please, don’t change a thing…
dixie normous
March 12th, 2013
10:21 am
the difference between rand paul and obama. rand paul actually qualifies to be Preident.
dixie normous
March 12th, 2013
10:22 am
how obama won:
She admitted voting twice in the presidential election last November, and now, Obama supporter Melowese Richardson has been indicted for allegedly voting at least six times. She also is charged with illegal voting in 2008 and 2011.
Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013/03/11/cincinnati-poll-worker-charged-with-voting-half-dozen-times-in-november/#ixzz2NKrF0vBh
dixie normous
March 12th, 2013
10:24 am
obama IS the food stamp president.
http://video.foxnews.com/v/2219872386001/record-number-of-americans-on-food-stamps/?intcmp=obnetwork
dixie normous
March 12th, 2013
10:26 am
liberal leadership:
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-03-12/illinois-settlement-shows-worst-pension-s-true-cost-muni-credit.html
zeke
March 12th, 2013
10:26 am
Kristol is so yesterday! I don’t think he would recognize a true Conservative if he walked directly into one! And yes, we should worry about what this or any other administration might do to us! After all, when the central government tells us what toilets we can have, what light bulbs we can have, what cars we can have, and, a thousand more of such idiot regulations, you have to worry what they will do next!!!
Jay
March 12th, 2013
10:27 am
Dixie, cease your spamming.
dixie normous
March 12th, 2013
10:27 am
how am i spamming jay? arent you proud of your liberal leaders?
zeke
March 12th, 2013
10:27 am
You have to worry as to what extremes they will go to to preserve their idiocy and prevent us from changing their plans!
dixie normous
March 12th, 2013
10:28 am
calling out your liberal type govt is spamming now?
dixie normous
March 12th, 2013
10:29 am
apparently jay is embarrassed by his type of govt in illinois and detroit.
Normal, Plain and Simple
March 12th, 2013
10:30 am
Recon 0311 2533
March 12th, 2013
10:00 am
But the difference between you and i is that i watch more than one “news” station. I want to know what’s going on, and not just hear what I want to hear. Just keep thinking what Fox news said about the election, there’s your sign about accuracy…
Mike the Heathen
March 12th, 2013
11:18 am
You know what they say about good intentions. Obama intended to close Gitmo during his first term. He intended to have the most transparent administration ever. He intended a whole lot of things. Poor guy also inherited a heck of a mess… AGAIN.
TiredOfIt
March 12th, 2013
12:25 pm
dixie normous
March 12th, 2013
9:48 am
IDIOT OBAMABOTS
http://www.ijreview.com/2013/03/40722-pure-gold-jimmy-kimmel-asks-people-about-obama-pardoni
++
Which one is your cousin?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y54rcz_L5Q4
TiredOfIt
March 12th, 2013
12:45 pm
Recon 0311 2533
March 12th, 2013
9:49 am
How Democrats win elections.
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013/03/11/cincinnati-poll-worker-charged-with-voting-half-dozen-times-in-november/
++
How republicans win elections.
Nixon: while LBJ was negotiating the end of the war, Nixon when directly to the North Vietnamese
and said he would offer a better deal if they wait until after the elections. Sounds like Treason.
http://consortiumnews.com/2012/06/14/admissions-on-nixons-treason/
Reagan: Bill Casey met with the Ayatollah and offered military equipment if they would not release the hostages until after the election. Treason once again.
luckysnap
March 12th, 2013
6:52 pm
If obama is the country’s future, it has no future.
AJ
March 12th, 2013
11:15 pm
i don’t know who the hell you are, but obviously you are an idiotic moron bookman. the future of this country is to use Libertarian principles and policies like Rand and his dad do, or there IS no future for, forget the party, THE COUNTRY. so continue on with your foolish dribble you toolio.
From Pine View Farm » Blog's archive » The Galt and the Lamers
March 13th, 2013
11:22 pm
[...] Jay Bookman considers Rand Paul’s recent filibuster (by the way, kudos to Paul for having the integrity to actually, like, you know, talk through a filibuster, rather than talk of one) and rumors that Paul might be the 2016* Republican presidential nominee: I didn’t think it possible for the 2016 GOP presidential field to even approach the 2012 field in … [...]
6dos
March 18th, 2013
11:59 am
The Republican Party seems hopelessly lost in a leadership vacuum. This is compounded by the fact that inept candidates for said party leadership, whether it may be the Tea Party, Rush Limbaugh or any number of inept, opportunistic, ultra conservative politicos, have continuously perpetuated a shroud of arrogance, exclusivity and intolerance that has engulfed the party in negativity.
Consider the fact that a Moderate Republican who championed fiscal responsibility and business development just soundly lost the election to a liberal democrat who is at the helm during the worst economy in modern history.
Why..?
Because the Republican Party stop communicating with the American people some time ago.
It instead sought to divide them through divisive rhetoric that exploits the ever present volatile undercurrent of racial and economic divide.
Then, when their flawed agenda predictably fails to bear fruit, they resort to more name calling with a little in fighting for good measure.
The fact is, the message of the Republican Party will continue to go upon death ears if it is preceded by a predictable insult (insert 47% here) to the very people you are trying to appeal to and/or persuade.
Furthermore, if Blacks account for approx.13% of the population and Latinos approx. 17%, it stands to reason that one could surmise that Romney shot himself in the foot by inadvertently including part of what should have been his base in the remaining 17%, such as, military, underemployed white southerners and/or conservative retirees on a fixed income, as they too would qualify for the remaining percentage of the people he was not “concerned with”.
President Obama won not because of his message, he had none.
In fact, what is truly sad, he knew he didn’t even need one to beat Romney and the Republicans. His win, just as in his first election was guaranteed not by who he is, but, by who he isn’t.
Some years ago when the democrats were in a similar albeit slightly better position, they decide to re-make their party with a method of communicating to the populist, not the party. They sought fresh new faces and leadership (insert Obama here) that more resembled our population while using the experienced and seasoned standards of the party in a more advisory role (insert Bill Clinton here) thereby evolving and changing with not only the times but, more importantly, the demographics of our country.
This has provided them with a grass roots appeal that easily overcame a faltering economy and an antiquated and out of touch Republican Party.
The Republican Party is now at the crossroads challenged with the same daunting task of evolving. But evolvement can not come until the same divisive message and its champions are allowed to go the way of the dinosaur paving the way for new leadership to grow a more inclusive, fiscally responsible party that embraces society as a whole rather than dividing and judging it.