To our traveling companions on the highway of life
I lost a close, longtime friend last fall, and this week some of us who knew the man best are gathering from around the country for the first time since he left us so suddenly. We’ve told stories, laughed a lot and handled a few moments of sadness. It’s all good, as they say.
The experience brought this cut to mind, recorded by friends of George Harrison a year after his passing. The guitarist looking uncannily like a young George is his son Dhani, who at the time of the video was probably around 24. All things must pass.
– Jay Bookman
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barking frog
March 9th, 2013
8:30 am
In a world with children raised by women it would seem
violence against women would not exist maybe this advice
is appropriate,
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qfKG0OIxNSw
barking frog
March 9th, 2013
8:38 am
Normal 8:16
The shui is getting the hell fenged out of it there.
indigo
March 9th, 2013
8:38 am
Normal – 8:28
That post makes you the smartest and most astute person in the room.
You are one of the few here who sees things as they really are, and not as you might wish them to be.
As for the Great Spirit, I’m afraid that’s just wishful thinking for those who just refuse to grow up.
JamVet
March 9th, 2013
8:39 am
Normal,
That is exactly why I enlisted in the USAF! (I liked frog’s ocean better…)
Neil Young, doing his magical solo stuff on a Martin six string…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cJNG-YA-gpI
barking frog
March 9th, 2013
8:56 am
the piano is an orchestra in a box and you must be good
to open the box and let it all out..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3dM2qCCg6GE
Thomas Heyward Jr
March 9th, 2013
8:56 am
Cynthia Tucker spoke out against ya’ll Obama God concerning his drone assasination program.
Good show Ms. Tucker.
Let your decency show to your fellow lefty-neocons.
.
A Prog with principles?
Who woulda thunk it.?
.
And greed is NOT worse than blood-lust and the need for state-sponsored violence.
.
carry on.
barking frog
March 9th, 2013
9:13 am
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KZHSR5VG0uU
barking frog
March 9th, 2013
9:21 am
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hQS95xLlzP0
JamVet
March 9th, 2013
9:22 am
http://blogs.ajc.com/mike-luckovich/2013/03/08/310-luckovich-cartoon-memorial/?cxntfid=blogs_mike_luckovich
At Variety Playhouse tonight…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f5IRI4oHKNU
Normal, plain and simple...
March 9th, 2013
9:24 am
Jam,
Great version. I had never heard the “unplugged” version before, thanks for that….
And about the ocean, that is why I have more Pagan beliefs than anything else. You will never know just how insignificant you are until you are at the mercy of an angry sea..
barking frog
March 9th, 2013
9:24 am
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=llz-n9MDhwM
Normal, plain and simple...
March 9th, 2013
9:25 am
Thomas,
Open you eyes, it’s greed that makes all those other things possible…and I might add, necessary.
Normal, plain and simple...
March 9th, 2013
9:49 am
I think The Eagles, say it best…we’ve all eaten here…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LNa8jiApWo0
JamVet
March 9th, 2013
9:51 am
Yeah, Normal, that solo version is great, huh?
Another guitar playing fool and singer-songwriter extraordinaire…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1-5_O6MUzzs
JamVet
March 9th, 2013
10:00 am
OK, I’ve got all my work done, now time to play.
I’ll check in later to see what other sweet tunes that you sweet people have linked!
And did you say she was pretty
And did you say that she loves you
Baby, I don’t wanna know
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9PRaFoqQos4
Rightwing troll
March 9th, 2013
10:05 am
“And greed is NOT worse than blood-lust and the need for state-sponsored violence.”
It’s about time one of you wingnuts spoke out against the Bush doctrine…
Matti
March 9th, 2013
10:17 am
indigo,
Actually, for the woman getting her face pounded in, her abdomen stomped, and her shoulder twisted out of its socket, uh…. violence against women pretty much IS her biggest problem. Global warming, and over population, not so much. But thanks for sharing with us how much you care.
Rightwing troll
March 9th, 2013
10:18 am
I see president W is blossoming into a bit of an artist, looks like he’s got some skills.
It’s not surprising, a lot of mentally deficient individuals have hidden artistic talents… W is the idiot savant…
Normal, plain and simple...
March 9th, 2013
10:26 am
Rightwing troll
March 9th, 2013
10:18 am
As my Granny used to say, “I’m too polite to agree with you, but I can’t say I disagree”.
dixie normous
March 9th, 2013
10:51 am
College tuition is jumping to record numbers. Those students wanted obama, they got the little turd.
Brosephus™
March 9th, 2013
10:56 am
It’s about time one of you wingnuts spoke out against the Bush doctrine…
Little Tommy ain’t no wingnut. He’s a Paulnut. He’s on a whole different level of nuttiness…
Rightwing troll
March 9th, 2013
10:58 am
“Libertarians” are just Republicans too ashamed to admit it…
Normal, plain and simple...
March 9th, 2013
11:03 am
“Libertarians” are just Republicans too ashamed to admit it…AND they have no sense of history.
stands for decibels
March 9th, 2013
11:07 am
Everybody who loved the Fab Four was, and to some extent or another, still is, heartbroken at the loss of John and George.
True. Thing about George was, he was with us long enough for most everyone to grow to love the guy, and yeah, I’m still heartbroken that we lost him
I haven’t read many of the comments, but if you haven’t yet seen the Scorcese documentary “Living in the Material World,” about George’s life, you should. It’s great–and amazingly, it doesn’t indulge in saccharine sentiments, it just plugs along and lets you, the viewer, fill in the emotional bonding.
/drive-by
YouLibs
March 9th, 2013
11:10 am
kayaker
A friend of mine here in Athens is the brother of the Allman Brothers Band’s late road manager, Twiggs Lyndon. Gregg gave Twiggs Duane’s tobacco sunburst Les Paul after Duane died. Twiggs would be killed in a sky diving accident a few years later, so my friend decided to keep it and give it to Duane’s daughter, Galladrielle, when she turned 21.
He kept it for years in a closet in his law office which was in the same building as the Georgia Theater. It’s a good thing she turned 21 when she did, because not long after “Hotlanta” was delivered to her, the Georgia Theater burned down.
Galladriel has graciously donated it to the rock and Roll Hall of Fame.
I don’t know what its value is today but any ‘58 Les Paul is very valuable no matter what its history. This particular one was found by Billy Gibbons for the man who sat at the number 2 spot on Rolling Stones list of best guitarists of all time for many years. It’s the guitar you hear on the “Live at Fillmore East” album.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EtSpjEsXnHs
td
March 9th, 2013
11:13 am
indigo
March 9th, 2013
8:15 am
Breaking – 8:00
A lot of things, none of them good, are happening in our world.
Global warming is steadly increasing and will get worse and worse in the years to come.
The human population is steadly increasing with no end in sight.
Clean water, something most of us take for granted, will get increasingly scarce in the years to come.
Germs and viruses are becomming increasingly immune to our antibiotics and antiviral drugs.
A combination of all the above means food will become increasingly scarce in the years to come causing mass migrations from country to country. This will cause massive social upheavels in many countries including, possibly, the US.
In light of all this, violence against women will be the least of our worries sooner than we think.
Well what do you propose should been done about the situation? Forced sterilization? I say you should start with the poor since they are the drains on society and do not have the self control to only produce what they can take care of.
Fred ™
March 9th, 2013
11:27 am
I say you should start with the poor since they are the drains on society and do not have the self control to only produce what they can take care of.
The Republicans WOULD nominate Hitler is given a chance. Absent that chance they are searching for someone like him.
td
March 9th, 2013
11:34 am
Fred ™
March 9th, 2013
11:27 am
I say you should start with the poor since they are the drains on society and do not have the self control to only produce what they can take care of.
The Republicans WOULD nominate Hitler is given a chance. Absent that chance they are searching for someone like him.
And the Democrats want Lenin, Stalin or Mao and they make Hitler look like a saint.
YouLibs
March 9th, 2013
11:52 am
td
What a touching display of humanity. Did you learn this at your church?
dixie normous
March 9th, 2013
11:54 am
obama has turned sequester into a big joke.
U.S. Sen. Tom Coburn (R-Okla.)who is now tweeting about his favorite instances of government waste at #SequesterThis. He has pointed out that on the first day after sequestration the government had posted 606 new federal jobs, including one at the Food and Drug Administration for “social media management,” 23 openings related to recreation, four public affairs specialists and a “director of history and museum policies and programs” for the Air Force (salary $143,600 to $165,300).
The USDA, which has warned of furloughs for food inspectors, had posted a job for a librarian. Dr. Coburn also asked that agency whether they might just consider canceling two planned conferences in California and Oregon that were to include “guest chefs” and tastings of “exceptional wines.”
He made a similar request of the FAA, which while warning it would have to furlough air traffic controllers, was also planning a Palm Springs “summit” for aircraft owners and pilots featuring Harrison Ford and had posted at least six new jobs.
Matti
March 9th, 2013
11:55 am
td is forgetting one of the fundamental requirements of the rich: Plenty of poor people to do the work that rich people don’t want to do. He’s also forgetting the economics of that dynamic: The fewer people there are to do the dirty work, the higher the demand and wages for them. D’OH! The Plutocratic Imperative requires that poor people do, in fact, continue breeding at a rate that keeps them in poverty, to achieve the desired level of working poor who are grateful (GRATEFUL they should be!!!) to have any kind of work at all, for whatever wage their record-pay-level bosses deem appropriate, without whining about benefits or rights or unions or any of that nonsense!
dixie normous
March 9th, 2013
11:56 am
The Republicans WOULD nominate Hitler is given a chance. Absent that chance they are searching for someone like him.
Hitler was a socialist like obama.
DannyX
March 9th, 2013
12:02 pm
“I say you should start with the poor since they are the drains on society and do not have the self control to only produce what they can take care of.”
I just love it when so-called Christian conservatives spout this kind of cr@p, exposing themselves as the total frauds they are. Jesus was an advocate for the poor, not the rich. Jesus didn’t have one good thing to say about rich people, it was the poor he was defending.
td, you are a fraud.
td
March 9th, 2013
12:03 pm
YouLibs
March 9th, 2013
11:52 am
td
What a touching display of humanity. Did you learn this at your church?
Have you ever heard of the word sarcasm? It is used from time to time when one is attempting to point out the stupidity of another person’s position. Look it up it is a good tool.
td
March 9th, 2013
12:07 pm
Matti
March 9th, 2013
11:55 am
I think you are forgetting about the theory of diminishing return. When the cost outweighs the value then it is time to stop the product. With immigration on the rise and the quick availability of transporting the poor from around the world the uneducated and lazy citizens in this nation have become to much of a liability and have outlived their usefulness to society.
Stevie Ray
March 9th, 2013
12:09 pm
td
March 9th, 2013
11:34 am
Of what value are your childish comments? Rocks off or something?
Your game is well beneath this, and most forums..
getalife
March 9th, 2013
12:10 pm
The nazis as as far right as you can go dixie.
The nazis you are you dixie.
JamVet
March 9th, 2013
12:15 pm
I say you should start (forced sterilization) with the poor since they are the drains on society.
Part sarcasm, part sincerity?
Mark 10:21-22 Jesus, looking at him, loved him and said, “You lack one thing; go, sell what you own, and give the money to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven; then come, follow me.” When he heard this, he was shocked and went away grieving, for he had many possessions.
Luke 14:12-14 He said also to the one who had invited him, “When you give a luncheon or a dinner, do not invite your friends or your brothers or your relatives or rich neighbors, in case they may invite you in return, and you would be repaid. But when you give a banquet, invite the poor, the crippled, the lame, and the blind. And you will be blessed, because they cannot repay you, for you will be repaid at the resurrection of the righteous.
Stevie Ray
March 9th, 2013
12:17 pm
Has anyone heard that Obama is going to do his part and cut his personal and family expenses by 30% or something like that…That’s a big deal. Thats leadership I didn’t think he was capable of…
A great sign for all of us…
Stevie Ray
March 9th, 2013
12:20 pm
Fred ™
March 9th, 2013
11:27 am
Fred any reference to Hilter and the like suggests you may be out of ammo…that’s really last resort and a display of emotions suggesting the argument is concluded..C’mon man!
td
March 9th, 2013
12:20 pm
“I say you should start with the poor since they are the drains on society and do not have the self control to only produce what they can take care of.”
I just love it when so-called Christian conservatives spout this kind of cr@p, exposing themselves as the total frauds they are. Jesus was an advocate for the poor, not the rich. Jesus didn’t have one good thing to say about rich people, it was the poor he was defending.
td, you are a fraud.
It is you that is full of it for not having a true understanding of what the bible really states. Jesus said for the CHURCH (not the government) to take care of the widowed, the orphaned and the disabled. He said nothing about taking care of the able bodied that refuse to take advantage of the education opportunities that are given to them FREE or the unwilling to take the work that is available to them because they feel it is beneath them and would prefer to collect government benefits.
2 Thessalonians 3:10: For even when we were with you, this we commanded you, that if any would not work, neither should he eat.
Stevie Ray
March 9th, 2013
12:24 pm
This is funny no matter who you are…
You silly ole christians..
Rodney Francis is insufficiently ambitious. The pastor of the Washington Tabernacle Baptist Church in St. Louis has entered the fray over guns, violence and humanity’s fallen nature with a plan for a “buyback” of children’s toy guns. And toy swords and other make-believe weapons. There is, however, a loophole in the pastor’s panacea. He neglects the problem of ominously nibbled and menacingly brandished breakfast pastries.
Joshua Welch — a boy, wouldn’t you know; no good can come of these turbulent creatures — who is 7, was suspended from second grade in Maryland’s Anne Arundel County last week because of his “Pop-Tart pistol.” While eating a rectangular fruit-filled sugary something — nutritionist Michelle Obama probably disapproves of it, and don’t let Michael Bloomberg get started — Joshua tried biting it into the shape of a mountain but decided it looked more like a gun. So with gender-specific perversity, he did the natural thing. He said, “Bang, bang.”
td
March 9th, 2013
12:25 pm
JamVet
March 9th, 2013
12:15 pm
You are absolutely right. The individual and the church has a calling to minister to the poor and take care of the disabled. There is nowhere in the passages you quoted saying it is the governments responsibility or duty.
YouLibs
March 9th, 2013
12:28 pm
td
I know very well what sarcasm is. “Did you learn this at your church?”
See if you can find the sarcasm in that sentence.
Do you know what hypocrisy is? “It is you that is full of it for not having a true understanding of what the bible really states.”
See if you can dig out the hypocrisy from that sentence.
Jm
March 9th, 2013
12:38 pm
“of all of the seven deadly sins, Greed is the worst”
Bahumbug
JamVet
March 9th, 2013
12:40 pm
Jesus said for the CHURCH (not the government) to take care of the widowed, the orphaned and the disabled.
Nope. He mentions neither of those words in any of the scriptures I’ve seen attributed to him on the topic.
For ye have the poor with you always, and whensoever ye will ye may do them good: but me ye have not always.
YE may.
He commanded all people, not just church goers, to do so.
Jesus commanded, “Love your neighbor.” When asked to define “neighbor,” Jesus expanded the traditional meaning of the word–defining our neighbor as anyone who is in need, including social outcasts…
Though they are the drains on society…
JamVet
March 9th, 2013
12:42 pm
There is nowhere in the passages you quoted saying it is the governments responsibility or duty.
Neither does he say it is not.
And given that our government is of the people, by the people and for the people, I suggest that your interpretation is invalid.
td
March 9th, 2013
12:54 pm
JamVet
March 9th, 2013
12:42 pm
But the secular humanist keep insisting that there is a total separation of church and state so how can a good Christian think that the government is a outreach of themselves?
You still did not address 2 Thessalonians 3:10: For even when we were with you, this we commanded you, that if any would not work, neither should he eat.
This is real clear command. If a person is unwilling to work then they should starve. Plain and simple.
DannyX
March 9th, 2013
12:55 pm
Jesus said for the CHURCH (not the government) to take care of the widowed, the orphaned and the disabled.”
Again, Jesus was an advocate for the poor, not the rich. Again, and this is the one you continually ignore, Jesus had nothing good to say about rich people. Republicans/Christian conservatives worship the rich.
‘Blessed are you who are poor, for yours is the kingdom of God.
“When you give a luncheon or a dinner, do not invite your friends or your brothers or your relatives or rich neighbors, in case they may invite you in return, and you would be repaid. But when you give a banquet, invite the poor, the crippled, the lame, and the blind. And you will be blessed, because they cannot repay you, for you will be repaid at the resurrection of the righteous.”
“The land of a rich man produced abundantly. And he thought to himself, ‘What should I do, for I have no place to store my crops?’ Then he said, ‘I will do this: I will pull down my barns and build larger ones, and there I will store all my grain and my goods. And I will say to my soul, ‘Soul, you have ample goods laid up for many years; relax, eat, drink, be merry.’ But God said to him, ‘You fool! This very night your life is being demanded of you. And the things you have prepared, whose will they be?’ So it is with those who store up treasures for themselves but are not rich toward God.”
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
March 9th, 2013
12:56 pm
As it turns out, the story is about Munsey’s church, Family Christian Center, which claims to have a weekly attendance of 15,000, making it one of the largest churches in the country. According to an investigation by the NWITimes.com, a paper covering northwestern Indiana, the judge presiding over the foreclosure proceedings told attorneys in court, “When I saw some of the expenditures being made in this church when there was a mortgage not being paid, I was astounded.” [...] Munsey and his wife Melodye raked in “$2.9 million in total compensation from 2008 through 2011 from organizations connected to Family Christian Center, IRS records show.” In all, “The church annually spent $3.5 million in leadership compensation and had a $900,000 budget for travel and meals, a $500,000 housing allowance and $500,000 for jet fuel and other expenditures, according to the transcript. In 2010, the church paid $1 million for property in Illinois, the transcript states.”
So much for this church’s responsibility to the poor.
Maybe Munsey could’ve donated that $500,000 worth of jet fuel to the poor for their Gulfstreams, god knows you can’t get jet fuel at Whole Foods with food stamps.
DannyX
March 9th, 2013
1:05 pm
Here’s another one Kam, Angel Food Ministries here in Georgia. (These Christian charities sure seem to love their private jets!)
ATHENS, Ga. —The founders and leaders of a Georgia-based ministry that sent discounted groceries to needy families across the country have pleaded guilty to federal charges.
Court records state that Pastor Wesley Joseph Wingo and Andrew Wingo both pleaded guilty this week to conspiracy to commit money laundering.
Linda Wingo also pleaded guilty to a charge that she concealed criminal activity by failing to tell law officers of the scheme to defraud the Monroe-based charity.
A former employee, Harry Michaels, pleaded guilty to conspiracy to commit wire fraud.
A November 2011 indictment said ministry officials took millions of dollars from the organization to buy jewelry, athletic equipment, clothes and to make a down payment on a jet.
http://www.ajc.com/news/ap/crime/angel-food-ministry-defendants-enter-guilty-pleas/nWdgd/
td
March 9th, 2013
1:05 pm
DannyX
March 9th, 2013
12:55 pm
“Republicans/Christian conservatives worship the rich.”
Biggest bogus BS statement you have made.
Personal freedom, personal responsibility, consequences of actions, less taxes, less government intervention. These are the main planks of the Republicans. Just because Conservatives do not support the wealth envy confiscation redistribution to the unwilling to work planks of the progressives does not mean we worship then rich.
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
March 9th, 2013
1:11 pm
(These Christian charities sure seem to love their private jets!)
God doesn’t want them standing in lines at the airport with the hoi polloi as evidenced by all the money they receive in donations.
DannyX
March 9th, 2013
1:11 pm
“Biggest bogus BS statement you have made.”
Still waiting for that reply about all the good things Jesus said about the rich, td. How about you back up your words for once? Come on td, tell us why its great to be rich according to Jesus!
Jm
March 9th, 2013
1:44 pm
“greed is good” – Jesus
td
March 9th, 2013
2:26 pm
DannyX
March 9th, 2013
1:11 pm
“Biggest bogus BS statement you have made.”
Still waiting for that reply about all the good things Jesus said about the rich, td. How about you back up your words for once? Come on td, tell us why its great to be rich according to Jesus!
Changing the bar in midstream. What does this have to do with your claim that “Christian conservative Republicans” worship the rich or the claim that Jesus thought the government should support the poor with no strings attached?
The day you progressive/Democrats stop denying God and stop trying to strip his word out of everything public is the day I will consider what you have to say about what Christians should do.
Normal, plain and simple...
March 9th, 2013
2:36 pm
“The day you progressive/Democrats stop denying God and stop trying to strip his word out of everything public is the day I will consider what you have to say about what Christians should do.”
Now THAT’S moving the goalposts…
getalife
March 9th, 2013
3:07 pm
jm is part of the problem,
Greed collapsed the economy stupid.
td
March 9th, 2013
3:22 pm
getalife
March 9th, 2013
3:07 pm
jm is part of the problem,
Greed collapsed the economy stupid.
Yes the greed of people wanting more then they could afford crashed the economy. A good segment of our nation did not have the common sense to know that if you are only bringing in $30,000 a year then you could not afford a $200,000 home long term or if you were bringing in a combined income of $80,000 per year, the economy takes a downturn and one person looses their job then $40,000 per year is not enough to pay for a $400,000 home.
The government was greedy by wanting more tax money from property taxes so they changed the regulations on banks to support no money down payments on homes and by backing bad loans by the Federal government.
The banks were greedy by selling risky loans as derivatives (well that was not really greed but being smart).
Cherokee
March 9th, 2013
3:26 pm
“Jesus said for the CHURCH (not the government) to take care of the widowed, the orphaned and the disabled”
And as I’ve pointed out to you td, that is simply not true.
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
March 9th, 2013
3:27 pm
(well that was not really greed but being smart).
There’s your sign.
Cherokee
March 9th, 2013
3:29 pm
“The day you progressive/Democrats stop denying God and stop trying to strip his word out of everything public is the day I will consider what you have to say about what Christians should do.”
The day you self proclaimed ‘Christian conservatives’ stop denying the totality of God’s word, and stop trying to twist Jesus’ teachings to match your own preconceived notions of reality, is the day that many of us will consider your suggestions for how things in this country should be managed.
td
March 9th, 2013
3:30 pm
Cherokee
March 9th, 2013
3:26 pm
“Jesus said for the CHURCH (not the government) to take care of the widowed, the orphaned and the disabled”
And as I’ve pointed out to you td, that is simply not true.
And where exactly did he say it was the governments responsibility and not the individual or the Church?
td
March 9th, 2013
3:36 pm
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
March 9th, 2013
3:27 pm
(well that was not really greed but being smart).
There’s your sign.
A corporations first priority is to protect the shareholder and the to maximize the return on investment to the stock holder (you know the same as Romney did for all those teacher retirement funds).
Why would the banks not minimize risk and take a beating if things turned out badly? A little common since and I am sure their actuaries told them that the loans the government deregulated were very risky so they did what they had too to protect their business.
Cherokee
March 9th, 2013
3:37 pm
“governments responsibility and not the individual or the Church?”
Not what I said of course. I’ll quote Brocephus here – I’m not going to try to defend words that you say.
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
March 9th, 2013
3:38 pm
A corporations first priority is to protect the shareholder and the to maximize the return on investment to the stock holder
And there’s the same sign.
td
March 9th, 2013
3:39 pm
Cherokee
March 9th, 2013
3:37 pm
“governments responsibility and not the individual or the Church?”
Not what I said of course. I’ll quote Brocephus here – I’m not going to try to defend words that you say.
Then you are taking me out of context because that is exactly what I have been writing about.
Cherokee
March 9th, 2013
3:42 pm
For anyone else who cares, go read Matthew 28. You, td, have already rejected that. But it’s pretty clear that nations do have a responsibility to take care of their weaker, sicker, orphaned, whatever, members. The only argument amongst believers should be how to do that.
And in a nation where thousands die every year for lack of medical care, obviously depending on the CHURCH – as you put it – isn’t enough.
getalife
March 9th, 2013
3:42 pm
” (well that was not really greed but being smart).”
Yeah, it was ignorant enough to collapse the global economy and they want the new rules to stop it to end.
Another ignorant move.
td
March 9th, 2013
3:43 pm
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
March 9th, 2013
3:38 pm
A corporations first priority is to protect the shareholder and the to maximize the return on investment to the stock holder
And there’s the same sign.
Well then you just gave your self away for being the socialist/communist that you truly are. Explains a great deal about why you chose only to make Smart ass comments and not engage in debate to defend your own philosophy. I thought for a long time it was just because you were to dumb but now it is because you are embarrassed to admit that you want to government to control every part of the economy.
DannyX
March 9th, 2013
3:44 pm
“The day you self proclaimed ‘Christian conservatives’ stop denying the totality of God’s word, and stop trying to twist Jesus’ teachings to match your own preconceived notions of reality, is the day that many of us will consider your suggestions for how things in this country should be managed.”
Very well said Cherokee.
I’m still waiting on td to give some examples of Jesus supporting the rich. Come on td, you’ve had all day, whats taking you so long? Why aren’t Christian conservatives speaking out against the rich?
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
March 9th, 2013
3:45 pm
… why you chose only to make Smart ass comments and not engage in debate to defend your own philosophy.
Those that I respect, I will engage in thoughtful reply.
You deserve only derisive scorn.
Cherokee
March 9th, 2013
3:46 pm
td I’ve talked with you enough to know I’m wasting my time, but go read what I said. I didn’t say it was either/or, as you imply in your 3:30 post. Ideally in a society set up based on Jesus’ teachings, the welfare of everyone would be the responsiblitiy of all three – the church, better off individuals, AND the government. They’re not mutually exclusive, as you try to make themin your question.
td
March 9th, 2013
3:47 pm
getalife
March 9th, 2013
3:42 pm
” (well that was not really greed but being smart).”
Yeah, it was ignorant enough to collapse the global economy and they want the new rules to stop it to end.
Another ignorant move.
Were is the blame for the individual? Is the individual not suppose to be held accountable for trying to buy a bigger house then they can afford? Is the individual not responsible for walking away from these houses and dumping them on the banks and the government?
Brosephus™
March 9th, 2013
3:48 pm
U.S. Sen. Tom Coburn (R-Okla.)who is now tweeting about his favorite instances of government waste at #SequesterThis. He has pointed out that on the first day after sequestration the government had posted 606 new federal jobs, including one at the Food and Drug Administration for “social media management,” 23 openings related to recreation, four public affairs specialists and a “director of history and museum policies and programs” for the Air Force (salary $143,600 to $165,300).
Yet, the jackass failed to mention the number of job postings from the LEGISLATIVE BRANCH for positions with connections to Congress. When you point one finger out, there are 3 pointing right back.
All one has to do is look on usajobs.gov for Legislative Branch positions within the last 7 days. Effin’ hypocrite and complete dumbass. You would think one would do cursory research before making an ass of himself.
Cherokee
March 9th, 2013
3:50 pm
DannyX I grew up in td’s church – in a different state no doubt – but finally had my fill when it seemed that so many people there used the Bible to justify their own ideas. Since the verses you quoted confilct with their beliefs, they just ignore them. Or try to explain them away somehow.
And yet they insist that the rest of us follow their beliefs on other issues – abortion, gay marriage, whatever.
it’s weird.
Cherokee
March 9th, 2013
3:53 pm
Those individuals had their credit rating destroyed for seven years, td. They didn’t escape unharmed. Should be bring back debtors prisons? Would that sate your thirst for retribution?
DannyX
March 9th, 2013
3:53 pm
“Well then you just gave your self away for being the socialist/communist that you truly are.”
Sounds like Jesus was a socialist/commie. He told a rich man to sell his belongings and give the money to the poor. He told people to invite the sick and poor to their banquets. He healed the sick without asking for their insurance card. He warned the rich about storing up wealth. He got physical with the greedy moneychangers.
Btw td, did Jesus say anything good about the rich?
JamVet
March 9th, 2013
3:55 pm
The evangelical zealots no longer even consider the fact that they have antithetical views with Jesus, concerning the wealthy and the poor, as written in Mark 10:17-25.
I find this important and something not discussed AT ALL as to why the evangelicals have been so widely rejected in this country for the past fifty years and why they have become the albatross of the GOP.
Vilify the weak and glorify the wicked; I just don’t see a lot of Jesus in that…
southpaw
March 9th, 2013
3:56 pm
Brosephus -
Can you give the link to that story? You’ve got my curiosity piqued. Now I’m wondering whether Senator Coburn included the Legislative Branch positions as part of the 606 new jobs, or if they included only Executive and/or Judicial Branch jobs.
td
March 9th, 2013
3:57 pm
Cherokee
March 9th, 2013
3:46 pm
td I’ve talked with you enough to know I’m wasting my time, but go read what I said. I didn’t say it was either/or, as you imply in your 3:30 post. Ideally in a society set up based on Jesus’ teachings, the welfare of everyone would be the responsiblitiy of all three – the church, better off individuals, AND the government. They’re not mutually exclusive, as you try to make themin your question.
And I will submit that government intervention has done nothing to resolve poverty and has really propagated an entitlement mentality that has hurt the poor. We have spend more then $16 trillion on the “great society” and today have just as high a % of poor in this nation as we did in 1964. On top of that we have created at least 20% of our population of entitled to government largess and no longer want to take care of themselves. .
getalife
March 9th, 2013
3:58 pm
“Were is the blame for the individual?”
“There is plenty of blame to go around” so lets see the list.
DannyX
March 9th, 2013
4:00 pm
“it’s weird.”
It sure is. The Bible is the “literal truth” when they want to use it as a weapon, when it conflicts with their own lives the parts that conflict are ignored. The list of those conflicts is very long.
Cherokee
March 9th, 2013
4:05 pm
I know you believe that td, and you have your proof text from 1 Thessalonians to toss out to buttress your beliefs. As Danny has pointed out, though, I haven’t found any record of Jesus asking the poor people he came across whether or not they were worthy of help.
And I agree with JamVet. Young people especially are leaving the evangelical churches in droves because of the stinginess and self righteousness of many in the conservative Christian hierarchy.
indigo
March 9th, 2013
4:07 pm
td – 2:26 “the day you progressive/Democrats stop denying God”
If you can furnish us with hard evidence that God exists, maybe we will stop denying Him.
getalife
March 9th, 2013
4:07 pm
“Young people especially are leaving the evangelical churches in droves because of the stinginess and self righteousness of many in the conservative Christian hierarchy.”
Yes and the priest pedophile problem.
Cherokee
March 9th, 2013
4:08 pm
And on another topic:
“HIGHLAND, N.Y. (AP) — A New York town that began assigning an armed police officer to guard a high school in the wake of the Connecticut massacre has suspended the program after an officer accidentally discharged his pistol in a hallway while classes were in session.”
Gosh who would have seen that coming???
http://talkingpointsmemo.com/news/sean-mccutcheon-officer-gun-suspended.php?ref=fpa
Cherokee
March 9th, 2013
4:09 pm
LOL. yeah there is that little problem too, getalife….
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
March 9th, 2013
4:10 pm
Wall Street and the private sector, not Fannie/Freddie triggered the crisis
http://www.mcclatchydc.com/2008/10/12/53802/private-sector-loans-not-fannie.html
http://www.businessweek.com/investing/insights/blog/archives/2008/09/fannie_mae_and.html
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
March 9th, 2013
4:13 pm
Wall Street pressured the ratings agencies to falsely rate the investment products they created with bundled loans they knew were bad.
http://www.mcclatchydc.com/2009/10/18/77244/how-moodys-sold-its-ratings-and.html
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
March 9th, 2013
4:15 pm
Goldman knew their sh*t stank, so they secretly placed bet against their products they sold to clients.
http://www.mcclatchydc.com/2009/11/01/77791/how-goldman-secretly-bet-on-the.html
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
March 9th, 2013
4:17 pm
The big lie, that the market is self regulating and needs no adult supervision.
http://www.ritholtz.com/blog/2011/11/what-caused-the-financial-crisis-the-big-lie-goes-viral/
JamVet
March 9th, 2013
4:20 pm
get, they took down Paterno’s statue, why not take down the Pope’s?
Talk about a cover up! Holy Cow, the Nixon administration would have been proud! (Even the mafia!)
But the evangelicals have created a situation almost as bad for themselves.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bl4dEAtxo0M
Thomas heyward Jr
March 9th, 2013
4:47 pm
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
March 9th, 2013
4:10 pm
Wall Street and the private sector, not Fannie/Freddie triggered the crisis
Wall Street pressured the ratings agencies to falsely rate the investment products they created with bundled loans they knew were bad
Goldman knew their sh*t stank, so they secretly placed bet against their products they sold to clients.
The big lie, that the market is self regulating and needs no adult supervision.
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Little Kammy confusing CronyCapitalism with Capitalism……………and a Crony Market with a Freed market……again.
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Government schools.
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lol
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
March 9th, 2013
4:51 pm
Little Kammy confusing CronyCapitalism with Capitalism……………and a Crony Market with a Freed market……again.
Little tommie-poo with the No True Scotsman logical fallacy.
indigo
March 9th, 2013
4:59 pm
Thomas – 4:47
Predatory Capitalism rules America now, not Crony Capitalism.
Get with it, schoolboy.
getalife
March 9th, 2013
5:03 pm
Jam,
If they arrested all the cardinals involved in the cover up, there would not be enough to elect the Pope.
independent thinker
March 9th, 2013
5:22 pm
“”"”"”"”"”"The Senate has the power to restrain the executive branch — and my filibuster was the beginning of the fight to restore a healthy balance of powers. The president still needs to definitively say that the United States will not kill American noncombatants. The Constitution’s Fifth Amendment applies to all Americans; there are no exceptions.
The outpouring of support for my filibuster has been overwhelming and heartening. My office has fielded thousands of calls. Millions have followed this debate on TV, Twitter and Facebook. On Thursday, the White House produced another letter explaining its position on drone strikes. But the administration took too long, and parsed too many words and phrases, to instill confidence in its willingness or ability to protect our liberty.”"”"”"”"”"”"”"”
Rand Paul, savior of the US Constitution in an op-ed today in the Washington Post glorifying his recent achievement.All is well in the GOP party. Their achievements in the Seante should make us all proud.
Can’t have Attorney Generals and the ATF committing tyranny on US soil..Timothy McVeigh would be proud.
Soothsayer
March 9th, 2013
5:22 pm
What a great story!
Brosephus™ - Mobile and Multitasking
March 9th, 2013
5:37 pm
southpaw
I’ll see what I can find when I get home. I was responding to an earlier post. I think it was either yahoo or the Washington Post where I saw that mentioned. You can search USAJobs and see the postings now.