Jeb Bush has a principled stand on immigration. Several, in fact.

Last summer, Jeb Bush was in favor of offering illegal immigrants a path to citizenship. As he told Charlie Rose:

“You have to deal with this issue. You can’t ignore it, and so either a path to citizenship, which I would support — and that does put me probably out of the mainstream of most conservatives — or a path to legalization, a path to residency of some kind.”

In his new book, “Immigration Wars: Forging an American Solution”, Bush comes out in stalwart opposition to citizenship.

“It is absolutely vital to the integrity of our immigration system that actions have consequences — in this case, that those who violated the law can remain but cannot obtain the cherished fruits of citizenship. To do otherwise would signal once again that people who circumvent the system can still obtain the full benefits of American citizenship.”

Today on “Morning Joe”, Bush was back to his initial position. Kind of … He repeatedly stressed that the book was written last year, as if something had happened recently to alter what in the book seems to be a strong, principle-based opposition to a path to citizenship. He also argued that a path to legalization would not create a magnet for future illegal immigration, while a path to citizenship somehow would.

“If you don’t have a difference between a path to citizenship or a path to legalization, you’re going to create a magnet going forward for more illegal immigration. So going forward — we wrote this last year — going forward, if there is a difference, if you can craft that in law where you can have a path to citizenship where there isn’t an incentive for people to come illegally, I’m for it. I don’t have a problem with that.”

A couple of points:

1.) The Bush flip-flop-flip has angered veterans of Mitt Romney’s campaign, which last year felt stranded on unpopular ground with the candidate’s “self-deportation” approach.

“Where the hell was this Jeb Bush during the campaign?” one advisor told the Miami Herald. “He spent all this time criticizing Romney and it turns out he has basically the same position. So he wants people to go back to their country and apply for citizenship? Well, that’s self deportation. We got creamed for talking about that. And now Jeb is saying the same thing.”

2.) The distinction that Bush attempts to draw between legalization and citizenship in fact has little real consequence. Those who have immigrated here illegally were drawn by jobs, the chance to escape Third World living conditions or greater opportunity for their children. Getting U.S. citizenship was way, way down on their list. A nice possibility, maybe, but hardly a deciding factor.

The notion that a path to legalization would be a less powerful magnet than a path to citizenship makes no sense, and Bush is smart enough to know it. But when you’re caught tacking to the right when the political winds are blowing left, and when you have ambitions of becoming the third consecutive Republican president named Bush, you have to scramble a bit.

– Jay Bookman

2,197 comments Add your comment

Peadawg

March 5th, 2013
3:04 pm

A politician flip-flops.

Yawn.

getalife

March 5th, 2013
3:05 pm

Just like romney.

stands for decibels

March 5th, 2013
3:06 pm

The Bush flip-flop-flip has angered veterans of Mitt Romney’s campaign

The mind boggles that we live in a world where the opinions of such people actually matter.

Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes

March 5th, 2013
3:07 pm

WHAT PART OF ILLEGAL DO YOU NOT UNDERSTAND?!?!?!

There — that is now out of the way.

stands for decibels

March 5th, 2013
3:07 pm

the third consecutive Republican president named Bush

Vote Jeb. He couldn’t possibly f-ck things up worse than his brother.

getalife

March 5th, 2013
3:07 pm

The last thing our country needs is another bush disaster.

They call me MISTER JamVet.

March 5th, 2013
3:10 pm

The Bush flip-flop-flip has angered veterans of Mitt Romney’s campaign, who were left trying to deal with the aftermath of Willard’s endless flip-flop-flips.

Vacillation, thy name is Republican. (Not to be confused with Vaseline, which is in very short supply in the right wing!)

Normal, Plain and Simple

March 5th, 2013
3:11 pm

Jeb is still a “Bush”, and therefore tainted…sorry.

Normal, Plain and Simple

March 5th, 2013
3:11 pm

Stands,

That would make an excellent bumper sticker :lol:

Half Century Dawg

March 5th, 2013
3:11 pm

well I guess his position is evolving

getalife

March 5th, 2013
3:12 pm

“Graham: Bush Move ‘Undercuts What We’re Trying To Do’”

Time to flip flop again.

stands for decibels

March 5th, 2013
3:13 pm

I think the GOPers should continue running candidates who are embarrassed by their real first names.

Jay

March 5th, 2013
3:13 pm

On a programming note, I’ll be taking the rest of the week off, so posting will be sparse. I’ll leave commenting open, so try to restrain your inner Freds. Also, I’ll be sure to post a Friday music thread. Gotta keep the tradition alive as long as technology allows.

Redneck Convert (R--and proud of it)

March 5th, 2013
3:13 pm

Well, I’m sorry, but I hope Jeb don’t run. The reason is because his brother was so super-perfect as President that Jeb could never measure up. I mean, everybody’s calling GWB the bestest President ever. That is, everybody that likes wars and real low housing prices and real high unemployment.

I could go on and on but I think I see a shoe headed for my head.

Peadawg

March 5th, 2013
3:14 pm

Jay, any news on when the blog registration will start?

getalife

March 5th, 2013
3:14 pm

Unfortunately we are out of leaders so could see a Clinton vs bush in 16 with Hillary crushing bush.

Jay

March 5th, 2013
3:15 pm

Haven’t heard a word, Pea. I’ll have to be trained on the new software first, and that hasn’t been scheduled yet, so draw your own conclusions.

Redneck Convert (R--and proud of it)

March 5th, 2013
3:15 pm

On a programming note, I’ll be taking the rest of the week off, so posting will be sparse.

Dang! Bookman’s getting furloughed too?

stands for decibels

March 5th, 2013
3:16 pm

I’ll leave commenting open, so try to restrain your inner Freds

heh, heh, heh.

Brosephus™

March 5th, 2013
3:16 pm

Dumbasses don’t realize that the “path” already exists. I sometimes think that politicians should at least know ONE thing about the law they’re trying to talk about. Unless Conservatives are intent on a complete rewrite of the Immigration and Nationality Act, the pathway to citizenship will still be there.

They call me MISTER JamVet.

March 5th, 2013
3:17 pm

Unless Obama “decides” that the Icelanders bought yellowcake uranium from the Filipinos and invades them on a whim, I predict that there is NO WAY IN HELL, that the GOP can win the White House in 2016.

It barely matters who the Republican-lites run.

And the neocons?

The only suspense will be if the next slate of candidates is as absurd and laughable as the last two…

Granny Godzilla

March 5th, 2013
3:17 pm

Poor Jeb.

He’ll never be President, though he might have been marginally better that either George.

Stuff like this and his education foundation connections to ALEC, his involvement in the Savings and Loan debacle and his various “scandals” while Governor of Florida.

southpaw

March 5th, 2013
3:17 pm

Now that “illegal” is out of the way, a few more things to get out of the way:
Record Dow!
Those people!
Surrender!
Small manhood on men who like guns!
Small manhood on women who like guns!
Benghazi!
What?
Stupid!
Not intended to be a factual statement!

Now…let the games begin. I wonder how many future comments I’ve predicted in advance.

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Normal, Plain and Simple

March 5th, 2013
3:20 pm

One would think Jay has gone over to the dark side, given these last tow posts… :D

stands for decibels

March 5th, 2013
3:20 pm

Dumbasses don’t realize that the “path” already exists.

Remember: John Ellis Bush is the “smart” one.

Redneck Convert (R--and proud of it)

March 5th, 2013
3:21 pm

126 Highway 400 N, Dawsonville GA 30534

Well, Ryan’s is not really in Cumming, but it’s close.

Fly-On-The-Wall

March 5th, 2013
3:21 pm

Is Jeb having a Romney “I’m running for President for gosh sakes, I can’t have illegals working here” moment?

Soothsayer

March 5th, 2013
3:22 pm

“The last thing our country needs is another bush disaster.”

On the contrary. No one has done more the Democratic Party than King Dumbass the First.

Redneck Convert (R--and proud of it)

March 5th, 2013
3:23 pm

Those people!

Hey! What’s wrong with that as a response?

stands for decibels

March 5th, 2013
3:24 pm

>> Those people!

> Hey! What’s wrong with that as a response?

The “P” is supposed to be capitalized.

getalife

March 5th, 2013
3:24 pm

They decided this reality show called Jay Bookman’s blog is a hit so they will not change it yet.

I declare this blog a no lie zone while Jay is gone.

Brosephus™

March 5th, 2013
3:26 pm

Remember: John Ellis Bush is the “smart” one.

Well, I think dumbass is higher on the intelligence chart when compared to idiot savant. I’ll have to go to the chart to verify that though. :lol:

Redneck Convert (R--and proud of it)

March 5th, 2013
3:27 pm

I declare this blog a no lie zone while Jay is gone.

Well, I say if you don’t like td’s stuff don’t read it. But don’t ban him from the whole blog.

stands for decibels

March 5th, 2013
3:27 pm

I declare this blog a no lie zone while Jay is gone.

http://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/duty_calls.png

getalife

March 5th, 2013
3:28 pm

It is all about jeb today on the corporate news network.

He can’t make eye contact when he talks and looks shifty to me.

Pretty much like willard romney.

josef

March 5th, 2013
3:28 pm

I guess he could say” “I’m of mixed opinions on immigration.”

IMAM

So, where are you off to?

K’CHAK

Looks like the SCV gris-gris worked.

NORMAL

Answered you on Dred Scott downstairs…

Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes

March 5th, 2013
3:29 pm

Over/under for how many days until Paul breaks the blog?

getalife

March 5th, 2013
3:30 pm

No banning while Jay is gone.

Fred’s drinking buddies can keep him in line.

We got this Jay.

Latrina

March 5th, 2013
3:30 pm

Folks no appreciates the contributions immigrant labor makes more than me. My roofers, painters and landscape guys are all Hispanic immigrants and I’d be lost without ‘em.

But the law’s the law. If we’re not going to deport the illegals then we need to change the law. This business of just looking the other way year after year is just nuts.

josef

March 5th, 2013
3:31 pm

Hopefully the two-toed cretins down to the tech dept at the Hubbard Daily News are getting the message. Some things that ain’t broke don’t need to be fixed…doubtful, of course, but hope still springs eternal…

Redneck Convert (R--and proud of it)

March 5th, 2013
3:31 pm

Over/under for how many days until Paul breaks the blog?

Don’t know about days but I got dibs on 1292 posts. Like alot of people on here do, I pulled that one out of my rear end.

Normal, Plain and Simple

March 5th, 2013
3:32 pm

Josef,
I saw, thanks. I told Scout I was reading
“Empire of the Summer Moon: Quanah Parker and the Rise and Fall of the Comanches, the Most Powerful Indian Tribe in American History ”

Have you read it yet? It’s hard for me to put down

Jm

March 5th, 2013
3:32 pm

A. Yes jeb is running
B. do you have to attack him already? 2016 is still four years away.
C. Jay has been reason politico, the last invited reference

So whoever it was that accused politico of being a Fox News bull horn should probably point that out to jay as well

Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes

March 5th, 2013
3:32 pm

Fred’s drinking buddies can keep him in line.

I’ve had several beers with Fred and it’s safe to say that what you see is what you get.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6jk7wiDGuiQ

DannyX

March 5th, 2013
3:33 pm

YIKES!!! Another Bush wants to be president.

Jeb’s plan:

1. Take out his Etch-a-Sketch and erase all his moderate views.

2. Become besties with the Limbaugh crowd.

3. Try to out clown the other Republican candidates during primary season.

4. Win Republican nomination.

5. Take out his Etch-a-Sketch again, shake real good and carve back in his moderate positions, in fact becoming even more moderate than before.

6. Lose in landslide to Hillary.

stands for decibels

March 5th, 2013
3:33 pm

B. do you have to attack him already?

I was going to say “Jm, those jokes ain’t gonna write themselves,” but maybe they will.

getalife

March 5th, 2013
3:34 pm

My friend from New York is back and he is doing some roof work.

He hired Latinos and they are working hard.

Keep Up the Good Fight!

March 5th, 2013
3:34 pm

Restrain your inner Fred? I talked with Ms. Fred and she said that ropes just make him mad and rancy. I suggest something in one of his sauces.

skipper

March 5th, 2013
3:34 pm

Jay, thank goodness you ain’t lettin’ us down Friday…..for all our disagreements, man you know your tunes!!!

JohnnyReb

March 5th, 2013
3:35 pm

Jeb can forget about being the Repub nominee. There is too much at stake to run a Bush for president.

I’m OK with a path to citizenship as long as illegals already here are not put in front of those legally waiting.

I’m NOT OK with illegals drawing welfare, being put on Obamacare, etc. Those benefits should only go to citizens. If that creates some self deportation, then so be it.

Brosephus™

March 5th, 2013
3:36 pm

I’ve had several beers with Fred and it’s safe to say that what you see is what you get.

I second the motion!!

josef

March 5th, 2013
3:36 pm

GETALIFE

“Fred’s drinking buddies can keep him in line.”

Oh, ye of too much faith!

LATRINA

“My roofers, painters and landscape guys are all Hispanic immigrants and I’d be lost without ‘em.”

“This business of just looking the other way year after year is just nuts.

I assume you’re posting from Bethlem? :-)

They call me MISTER JamVet.

March 5th, 2013
3:38 pm

If the Hubbard Daily News (LOL, I don’t even know what that means, but wtf?!) really does shut down the Music Man, I’m gonna go all ATF on ‘em and go down to their building and blast ‘em with endless AC/DC at about 130 dBs like they did that psycho in Waco!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v2AC41dglnM

Cheesy Grits

March 5th, 2013
3:38 pm

It’s a new all-time high: Dow smashes through 14,198

Let the good times roll !!!!

Thank you Obama !!!!!

Brosephus™

March 5th, 2013
3:39 pm

I’m OK with a path to citizenship as long as illegals already here are not put in front of those legally waiting.

I’ve explained it a few times, and I’ll try again.

When it comes to the “line”, it’s not a matter of who the person is, it’s all about who’s petitioning for them to live here. If someone without status marries a Legal Permanent Resident, the LPR can apply for them to become an LPR as well. If the same thing happens at the same time with a US citizen spouse, then the US citizen’s petition takes precedence, regardless to who it is.

If you don’t want anybody jumping the line, then you would need Congress to change the entire Immigration and Nationality Act. As it currently stands, there is already a pathway to citizenship, complete with line jumping and all.

getalife

March 5th, 2013
3:40 pm

Hope springs eternal on Fred.

jm,

Yes, everything is politics these days so it is not too early to attack jeb.

josef

March 5th, 2013
3:40 pm

NORMAL

Yes. I’ve always found it interesting that in that standard list of “famous Indians every white/black person should know” (and don’t get me started on THAT) how seldom Quanah Parker appears.

Keep Up the Good Fight!

March 5th, 2013
3:41 pm

“We have to elect him to know what’s in his mind?” – Nancy Pelosi

Gawd forbid

Matti

March 5th, 2013
3:42 pm

“Jeb Bush. Because America needs someone w/the integrity of Mitt Romney & the genes of George W. Bush.” — LOLGOP

josef

March 5th, 2013
3:42 pm

ZamVet

I’ll go for that…! Oh, and Hubbard Daily News? Oh, just a reference to my favorite Leftie Steel Magnolia’s take on things here in Dixie… :-)

JohnnyReb

March 5th, 2013
3:42 pm

Brosephus – I yield to you on current law, but they are talking about a new law. And, what I hear from Rubio is that present illegals would have to go to the back of the line. That stated, there will likely always be political exceptions – they like to feel powerful.

JohnnyReb

March 5th, 2013
3:43 pm

I see you guys are having Fred fun. Where is Fred? Banned again?

alittlecommonsense

March 5th, 2013
3:45 pm

Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes

March 5th, 2013
3:45 pm

Banned again?

Not that I know of.

Keep Up the Good Fight!

March 5th, 2013
3:45 pm

Johnny wants in the Fun with Fred fan club without paying his dues and going through initiation?

Jay

March 5th, 2013
3:46 pm

My father in law is a proud native of Quanah, Texas, named for the dreaded Parker. It is also the ancestral home of the Koch brothers…

Matti

March 5th, 2013
3:47 pm

Jm
March 5th, 2013
3:32 pm

A. Yes jeb is running
B. do you have to attack him already?
_____

Wait…. what? Is this the same “Jm” who attacked Rep. John Lewis for missing a vote when his WIFE passed away? Who then doubled down on the personal-character attack after being informed of this tidbit?

JohnnyReb

March 5th, 2013
3:47 pm

No desire to be in fun with Fred club. He and I have locked horns more than once.

josef

March 5th, 2013
3:48 pm

JohnnyReb

“Banned again?”
Not sure. What day is it? What time of that day is it? Gotta do the Fred check right along with the weather and the dow!

Brosephus™

March 5th, 2013
3:48 pm

JReb

That’s my point. To do what they’re expressing will take a complete rewrite of the INA. Something of that magnitude will take years, maybe even decades, based on the current idiocy that rules DC. I see the chances of a complete overhaul as slim to none.

josef

March 5th, 2013
3:49 pm

JAY

Nothing quite like Texas, is there? :-)

JohnnyReb

You ain’t nobody here until you’ve locked horns with Fred!

Normal, Plain and Simple

March 5th, 2013
3:50 pm

Jay, Josef,

They were some bad dudes! They pretty much singlehandedly stopped the northward advancement of the Spanish into southwest America.
—–

Off for home, if I don’t get back, have a great evening.

Adam

March 5th, 2013
3:51 pm

Stand on principle! Everyone must self deport! This will surely win more elections for conservatives! The real problem is that they aren’t EXPLAINING themselves well enough…. etc

JohnnyReb

March 5th, 2013
3:52 pm

“Nothing quite like Texas, is there?”

Glenn Beck agrees. He moved lock, stock, barrel and studio to Dallas.

AmericaShrugged

March 5th, 2013
3:53 pm

Jeb Bush would probably be the worst candidate since John Kerry.

getalife

March 5th, 2013
3:54 pm

Figures the koch’s are from Texas and said the cuts will help our economy.

That is total bs but all we will get from those two Texans.

UNCLE SAMANTHA

March 5th, 2013
3:54 pm

SO NOW EVEN ROMNEY IS BLAMING BUSH……… WHAT TOOK THEM SO LONG

TBS

March 5th, 2013
3:54 pm

“Glenn Beck agrees. He moved lock, stock, barrel and studio to Dallas.”

Well that was after he was dismissed from Fox, but all in all he is welcome to move where he thinks it is best for him.

They call me MISTER JamVet.

March 5th, 2013
3:54 pm

Latino vote in 2012:

BHO – 71%
WMR – 27%

But as horrific as that stat is, in and of itself, the news get even worse for the GOP.

Since 2008, the number of registered Latinos has increased by 26%. And the Latino voter turnout in 2008 was a record as they now represent about 9% of American voters.

This ain’t looking good for the once Grand Old Party.

Just as with portfolios, diversify or die…

getalife

March 5th, 2013
3:55 pm

beck’s cult going to be in Dallas?

Daedalus

March 5th, 2013
3:55 pm

Let’s tee it up!

Time for some golf.

getalife

March 5th, 2013
3:56 pm

He should move his cult to Waco.

Thomas Heyward Jr

March 5th, 2013
3:56 pm

From BreitBart———————

“Former Florida Governor Jeb Bush said he would strive to be like Lyndon Johnson, the Democrat famous for expanding the U.S. welfare state through the “Great Society,” if he were elected president.

According to the Miami Herald, Bush made those comments Wednesday night in San Antonio, Florida at Saint Leo University, while speaking about education, immigration, and energy policy.”
.
Bush 3.
I luagh out loud.
Then I think of Obama Opologists………………and I laugh out louder.

Adam

March 5th, 2013
3:56 pm

UNCLE SAMANTHA: SO NOW EVEN ROMNEY IS BLAMING BUSH…

The truth can only remain hidden for so long before even the naysayers start to accept it.

See: views on black people, gay people, evolution, and climate change.

These are my favorite examples of following a pattern of excuses for opposition until all the excuses run dry.

Keep Up the Good Fight!

March 5th, 2013
3:56 pm

Glenn Beck agrees. He moved lock, stock, barrel and studio to Dallas.

Dallas? You sure its not Wacko? If he is locked in his bunker, I suggest someone prop a chair under the handle.

Gold sales to Texas crazies are bound to increase.

TBS

March 5th, 2013
3:58 pm

Reb

You put your up your earnest money on a house or condo in Beck’s “Independence USA” utopia?

stands for decibels

March 5th, 2013
3:58 pm

beck’s cult going to be in Dallas?

I’d think maybe they’ll be about a hundred miles or so south of there, actually.

stands for decibels

March 5th, 2013
3:59 pm

Jinx! cubed.

GT

March 5th, 2013
3:59 pm

The memories are giving me a headache.

stands for decibels

March 5th, 2013
4:00 pm

Bush for President
Now 30% Less Chimpy

josef

March 5th, 2013
4:01 pm

Speaking of Texas…my nephew who lived for several years in China and married a Chinese woman, took her on a road trip across the United States to introduce her to her new home. She’s polite and largely non-judgmental. But when it comes to Texas, she just shakes her head and says, “what is it with THEM?” Of our Texas family she said, “they’re really nice…but, they’re different…” :-)

Hoof Hearted

March 5th, 2013
4:01 pm

Has anyone picked up on this new distinction offered by some Republicans between “legalization” and “citizenship?” In other words, the two are not the same. Hmmmmm, I wonder why republicans would consider “legalization,” where the folks are legal to work and pay taxes, but not “citizenship” where they could do those same things AND have the right to vote? It is puzzling. . .

Keep Up the Good Fight!

March 5th, 2013
4:02 pm

stands, sometimes they just write themselves (or is that Jay controlling our fingers under the new system?)

Thomas Heyward Jr

March 5th, 2013
4:02 pm

Via FBI,

On Monday, March, 4, 2013, at approximately 1:15 p.m., the pilot of Alitalia Flight #608 spotted a small, unmanned aircraft while on approach to John F. Kennedy International Airport. The Alitalia flight was roughly three miles from runway 31R when the incident occurred at an altitude of approximately 1,750 feet. The unmanned aircraft came within 200 feet of the Alitalia plane.

The FBI is investigating the incident and looking to identify and locate the aircraft and its operator. The unnamed aircraft was described as black in color and no more than three feet wide with four propellers.

“The FBI is asking anyone with information about the unmanned aircraft or the operator to contact us,” said Special Agent in Charge John Giacalone. “Our paramount concern is the safety of aircraft passengers and crew.”

Anyone with information is asked to call the FBI at 212-384-1000. Tipsters may remain anonymous.
.
I bet they could get it…… ifn it wasn’t for that dang sequestor.
.
tards.
.
lol

Fred ™

March 5th, 2013
4:02 pm

so try to restrain your inner Freds

(f)RED CARD

Delusional lick spittle

ass hat

Who else has added so much new life in the blog lol.

josef

March 5th, 2013
4:04 pm

Y’all better be nice about Waco…I’ve got low friends in high places there who’ll be more than happy to defend their image! :-)

Brosephus™

March 5th, 2013
4:05 pm

They call me MISTER JamVet.

March 5th, 2013
4:05 pm

Jeb?

My goodness.

They might as well trot out Brownback, Keyes, Huckabee, Newt and Herman again.

Or better yet, Jimmy Hoffa.

DOA…

stands for decibels

March 5th, 2013
4:05 pm

fred, there’s also some unfinished business about Kwanzaa being a “racist holiday,” but I’ll wait until Jay’s back for that.

/drive-by

getalife

March 5th, 2013
4:06 pm

“From BreitBart———————”

Did you expect anybody here to read that tom?

Fred ™

March 5th, 2013
4:06 pm

Damn, and I forgot the FRED charts and graphs lol.

TBS

March 5th, 2013
4:06 pm

“I’ve got low friends in high places………”

Are your friends with the majority of members in Congress?

:-)

Keep Up the Good Fight!

March 5th, 2013
4:06 pm

Dangnabbit, you post Fred 3 times and he shows up. Does he have a hockey mask? :lol:

Grasshopper

March 5th, 2013
4:07 pm

And Obama’s positions change like the wind on:

– Gay Marriage
– Keystone
– Immigration
– Taxes

So what’s the point?

Fred ™

March 5th, 2013
4:07 pm

There is nothing unfinished about thta Stands. I can’t help it if you refuse to acknowledge the facts and the words by the RACIST creator of the so called holiday.

getalife

March 5th, 2013
4:08 pm

Fred,

I expect you to behave yourself.

Peadawg

March 5th, 2013
4:08 pm

Damn that communist in the White House and his sequester idea!!!!!

“Dow closes at record high”

Jm

March 5th, 2013
4:10 pm

Four years of Jay attacking Jeb

This should get very boring

Peadawg

March 5th, 2013
4:11 pm

Four years of Jm whining about a Democrat “attacking” a Republican.

This WILL get very boring.

Jm

March 5th, 2013
4:11 pm

Dow closes at record high

Boy that sequester was a doozy

Next

Peadawg

March 5th, 2013
4:11 pm

And then four years of Jm “attacking” Jay for “attacking” Bush.

Fred ™

March 5th, 2013
4:13 pm

getalife, I ALWAYS behave myself. It’s just not always the behavior folks like. Especially puffed up blowhards, closed minded hypocrites, delusional lick spittles and assha……. well I pushed thta one one today, that;s enough lol. I’ve already had one post deleted today. (Bet you thought I missed that eh jay :wink: )

Fred ™

March 5th, 2013
4:14 pm

Four years of Jay attacking Jeb

This should get very boring
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Not as boring of five years of you FOXBOTS and your lies and Obama bashing………

josef

March 5th, 2013
4:15 pm

TBS

I said I had low friends in high places, not high friends in low places… :-)

josef

March 5th, 2013
4:16 pm

FRED

Yeah, I ran a check on it the other day…moderated me, too…

Carlos

March 5th, 2013
4:16 pm

Has as many “principled stands” as President Obama does on gay marriage.

Erwin's cat

March 5th, 2013
4:16 pm

so he evolved” on the issue…and then “devolved”

ARE WE NOT MEN!

Granny Godzilla

March 5th, 2013
4:17 pm

Attacking Jeb?

Why wait?

Just helpin’ the GOP realize early he’s not an option.

Why waste everybodies time and all the GOP’s money?

Fred ™

March 5th, 2013
4:17 pm

getalife

March 5th, 2013
4:18 pm

jm,

Yeah, attacking Obama is boring .

Nothing but lies

Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes

March 5th, 2013
4:19 pm

getalife

March 5th, 2013
4:28 pm

jeb will pretend to be a con for four year then flip flop like romney to move left.

Same ole same ole bs.

Keep Up the Good Fight!

March 5th, 2013
4:29 pm

Trump is speaking at CPAC but not Chris Christie? Will Donald tell us all again how he would have won the 2012 election if he had not quit or will he report on the things his investigators found out about Obama’s birth certificate.

Granny Godzilla

March 5th, 2013
4:30 pm

Keep

Donald Trump and Sarah Palin together at CPAC…..

Oh please don’t BREEEEEED!

josef

March 5th, 2013
4:31 pm

getalife

Not unlike President Obama, wouldn’t you say? Pretend to be a liberal and then move right…

Not being particularly critical…it goes with the territory. Effectively you can run from the “sides,” but you have to rule from the center…

josef

March 5th, 2013
4:31 pm

GRANNY

Well, breeders IS messy, you know… :-)

Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes

March 5th, 2013
4:32 pm

White House tours cancelled due to sequestration. This can only mean that the Friday night Hip Hop BBQ is a go!

Heh, heh, heh.

Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes

March 5th, 2013
4:33 pm

Donald Trump and Sarah Palin together at CPAC…..

Oh please don’t BREEEEEED!

She’d need a blonde wig first….

Jefferson

March 5th, 2013
4:35 pm

They don’t call it “pillow talk” for nothing….

Granny Godzilla

March 5th, 2013
4:36 pm

josef

messy …and it hurts too!

Granny Godzilla

March 5th, 2013
4:37 pm

Sarah Palin and Donald Trump walk into a bar ……

getalife

March 5th, 2013
4:37 pm

josef,

President Obama vs Hillary Clinton was a fight for liberals that he won but came through on most of his promises in the campaign.

barking frog

March 5th, 2013
4:39 pm

josef
I’m sick and tired of your limpwristed comments about breeders
being messy, if not for breeders that fed and educated you, you
would be hiding behind some bush in the missisippi backwaters.
so there.

Jm

March 5th, 2013
4:39 pm

And four years of you turkeys attacking me for attacking jay for attacking jeb

Yes, also boring

Samsara is a b-tch

Li'l Aynie

March 5th, 2013
4:39 pm

Don’t laugh! Another Bush is the only viable candidate the Republicans have for 2016. Who else? Gingrich, Santorum, Rick Perry, Palin, etc. are tiresome jokes.

Actually, Jeb Bush would be a strong contender. He can attract a lot of Hispanic votes. His wife is Hispanic, his children are bilingual, and he can manage a few sentences of Spanish. As Florida Governor, he exhibited far more intelligence and common sense than his big brother.

As for the flip-flops, that goes with the political affiliation. Since the sole Republican agenda is to oppose whatever President Obama favors, when Obama shifts, Republicans flip!

josef

March 5th, 2013
4:39 pm

getalife

March 5th, 2013
4:40 pm

cpac stands for clowns parading as cons.

Arms Akimbo

March 5th, 2013
4:42 pm

Obama is not going to allow meaningful immigration reform until after 2014. He is going to continue the blame game in his never ending campaign while the nation as a whole suffers through his gross negligence. Obama lost significant credibility because of the sequester and even the NYT and Wa. Post have been publishing more critical comments questioning the ethical ramifications of the OFA. It is hard to take Obama seriously when he can’t seem to get his own fiscal house in order while average Americans juggle volatile gasoline, food, and insurance prices on a monthly basis. He is going to accomplish nothing in the next two years in an attempt to capture the House. It is a gutsy, yet shortsighted strategy and the country is going to pay the price for a complete lack of leadership.

josef

March 5th, 2013
4:42 pm

FROG

Hell, it was in them bushes that them messy breeders did the deed that brought me into your world view…
:-)

Welcome to the Occupation

March 5th, 2013
4:43 pm

Afternoon everybody. How are the con ilks and lib ilks doing?

Greetings from the land of the snow shovels.

That Black Guy

March 5th, 2013
4:43 pm

Bro, I noticed downstairs that you are a White guy now (per KhlidX).

Did you at least get to keep your rhythm? :lol:

Purveyor

March 5th, 2013
4:43 pm

After your last post Jay I had some hope. Alas you summon the great unwashed masses yet again. Great journalism. How sad you use your space for such. Ignorance and frivolity do not a respnsible voter make and you seem to have the best at your beck and call. I’m sure your readers can look up frivolity if they actually own a dictionary.

They call me MISTER JamVet.

March 5th, 2013
4:44 pm

Changing one’s mind when they get new/better information is a sign of strength, not weakness. I believe it was Jefferson who wrote about being a slave to ones’ ideas.

But Romney’s public and self-inflicted humiliation was anything but that.

He came across – and for good reason – as an unprincipled and TOTAL sell out who “reinvented” himself on the fly, repeatedly. The man struck me as someone who would say ANYTHING at ANY time, if he thought it would get him one more vote.

So to that extent, he was the anti-GWB, who would never change his mind nor eever admit that he made a mistake.

You, in the party faithful, did not want to see the damning truth about Romney, but I assure you that the voting public did.

And why he was both the weakest GOP candidate in 80 years and why he got decimated last November…

getalife

March 5th, 2013
4:45 pm

How much snow Occupation?

arms,

So?

Everything is politics for the gop so he can do the same.

Crybaby much?

barking frog

March 5th, 2013
4:45 pm

josef
I figured it was something like that…our good luck…

Keep Up the Good Fight!

March 5th, 2013
4:45 pm

Well I just hope Sarah hunts down that thing on Trump’s head.

That Black Guy

March 5th, 2013
4:47 pm

Adam

March 5th, 2013
3:51 pm
The real problem is that they aren’t EXPLAINING themselves well enough…. etc
______________________________________
Wasn’t that also the line of reasoning Obama took when some of his earlier positions were resisted (ACA, Cash for Clunkers, etc.)?

Granny Godzilla

March 5th, 2013
4:51 pm

Keep

From a helicopter?

Cool.

josef

March 5th, 2013
4:52 pm

OCCUPATION

Bless your heart…

FROG

At the risk of getting Sinkwich’s WTF award, how DID I come into your world view? Mama and Daddy were getting a divorce. She had gone down to the Old Place to pick up a few things, Daddy was there. She says, “well, after 20 years, what could once for all time’s sake hurt?” So, I’m her “once more for old time’s sake young-un.” The judge refused to finalize the divorce until after I was born. He said he didn’t want me to take after my Daddy and be a b*stard! He didn’t much care for mon pere!

Keep Up the Good Fight!

March 5th, 2013
4:53 pm

Granny, I would hope that Sarah has kept up and gotten drone technology for her hunting

Welcome to the Occupation

March 5th, 2013
4:53 pm

Wow, news out of Venezuela is saying Chavez has died.

Get ready for the big US establishment hate.

Brosephus™

March 5th, 2013
4:54 pm

Sarah Palin and Donald Trump walk into a bar ……

After regaining consciousness, they both look at each other and blame Obama for putting the bar in their pathway.

:lol: :lol: :lol:

————–

TBG

I’ve lost my Blackness on this blog more times than I’ve ever lost it anywhere else. I’m gonna throw on some Uncle Luke and see if I still got it. :)

getalife

March 5th, 2013
4:54 pm

Occupation,

Seriously?

Fred ™

March 5th, 2013
4:55 pm

I see I was too late, but at least the blow back is funny lol.

Welcome to the Occupation

March 5th, 2013
4:55 pm

getalif, around Chicago it’s a good 8 inches and still going.

TBS

March 5th, 2013
4:56 pm

Bro

Forget Luke…………. You need to go straight to Public Enemy and NWA if you really want to get back to where you need to be………….

:-)

0311/8541/5811/1811/1801

March 5th, 2013
4:56 pm

JAY:

You left out this “principled stand” by the White House on the Sequester !

“Email tells feds to make sequester as painful as promised”

“The Obama administration denied an appeal for flexibility in lessening the sequester’s effects, with an email this week appearing to show officials in Washington that because they already had promised the cuts would be devastating, they now have to follow through on that.

In the email sent Monday by Charles Brown, an official with the Animal and Plant Health Inspection Service office in Raleigh, N.C., Mr. Brown asked “if there was any latitude” in how to spread the sequester cuts across the region to lessen the impacts on fish inspections.

He said he was discouraged by officials in Washington, who gave him this reply: “We have gone on record with a notification to Congress and whoever else that ‘APHIS would eliminate assistance to producers in 24 states in managing wildlife damage to the aquaculture industry, unless they provide funding to cover the costs.’ So it is our opinion that however you manage that reduction, you need to make sure you are not contradicting what we said the impact would be.”

Read more: http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2013/mar/5/email-tells-feds-make-sequester-painful-promised/#ixzz2MhkCGlW6

josef

March 5th, 2013
4:57 pm

BROSEPHUS

Well, are you a Mormon yet?

getalife

March 5th, 2013
4:57 pm

Occupation,

You broke the news before cnn.

Granny Godzilla

March 5th, 2013
4:57 pm

Sarah Palin and Donald Trump walk into a bar ……

and the bartender says “What’s this? A joke?”

TBS

March 5th, 2013
4:57 pm

Bro

Some KRS1 and Tupac would help your cred as well……..

josef

March 5th, 2013
4:58 pm

“getalif, around Chicago it’s a good 8 inches and still going.”

BROSEPHUS

They measure their SNOW in inches…maybe they could use a little Southern pride, eh? :-)

0311/8541/5811/1811/1801

March 5th, 2013
4:59 pm

JAY:

You left out these “principled stands” by Obama !

“The Top 10 Obama Flip Flops”

■Voted against increasing the debt limit; then supported raising it.
■Campaigned against the Bush tax cuts; then extended all of them.
■Promised to cut the deficit in half by the end of his first term; then proposed trillion dollar deficits.
■Vowed the unemployment rate would be below 8% if his stimulus was passed; but then it broke 10%.
■Promised shovel ready jobs; then admitted they weren’t shovel ready.
■Said if you like your health plan you can keep it; but then threw seniors off Medicare Plus and employers are now saying they’ll dump people onto the public exchange.
■Promised to have health care negotiations on live TV, but then reversed himself.
■Indicated Bush violated the Constitution; then carried out warrantless wiretaps, indefinite detentions, secret renditions, quadrupled drone attacks, and kept Guantanamo Bay open. Voted against the Patriot Act, but then supported its extension.
■Said lobbyists wouldn’t work in the White House; then gave them waivers to work there.
■Vowed to take public financing for his 2008 campaign; then refused public financing when he realized he would receive more money without it.

http://www.facebook.com/notes/republican-security-council/the-top-10-obama-flip-flops-by-ari-fleischer/171275079638338

And that’s just the TOP TEN !

GEEZ !

Keep Up the Good Fight!

March 5th, 2013
4:59 pm

Chavez has died. How long before someone claims Obama will order flags lowered to half mast?

Fred ™

March 5th, 2013
4:59 pm

Forget Luke…………. You need to go straight to Public Enemy and NWA if you really want to get back to where you need to be………….

Aw hell naw. You need some 2Pak to heal that wound:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=610vDBi3LgA

Welcome to the Occupation

March 5th, 2013
5:00 pm

Keep: Chavez has died. How long before someone claims Obama will order flags lowered to half mast?

Ha! Indeed. :)

getalife

March 5th, 2013
5:00 pm

They say his VP will be President.

Joe Hussein Mama

March 5th, 2013
5:01 pm

This just in. Hugo Chavez dead.

Normal, plain and simple...

March 5th, 2013
5:01 pm

Hugo’s VP is saying we infected Chavez with the cancer… wild.

TBS

March 5th, 2013
5:01 pm

Scout

Good call. Maybe that will be your 1st article on your new blog.

“GEEZ”

Joe Hussein Mama

March 5th, 2013
5:02 pm

Whoops, should have checked before posting. :P

Erwin's cat

March 5th, 2013
5:02 pm

Welcome – Wow, news out of Venezuela is saying Chavez has died.

yep, just came up on the crawl. I read an article just a couple hrs ago where the No. 2 was saying that the USA gave him cancer to kill him…

getalife

March 5th, 2013
5:02 pm

“Campaigned against the Bush tax cuts; then extended all of them.”

Raised them on the wealthy.

josef

March 5th, 2013
5:03 pm

SCOUT

Now, now…you know according to al Shariff, Maureen Dowd, the NYT, et al. he ain’t no “profile in courage!” :-)

That Black Guy

March 5th, 2013
5:04 pm

Brosephus™

March 5th, 2013
4:54 pm
TBG
I’ve lost my Blackness on this blog more times than I’ve ever lost it anywhere else. I’m gonna throw on some Uncle Luke and see if I still got it.
___________________________________________
Considering your new “status”, may I suggest Vanilla Ice?

Baby steps.

You might berak a hip with Uncle Luke. :lol:

josef

March 5th, 2013
5:04 pm

JOE MAMA

@ 5:01

That’s OLD news already… :-)

Keep Up the Good Fight!

March 5th, 2013
5:05 pm

Vowed the unemployment rate would be below 8% if his stimulus was passed; but then it broke 10%.

No lie is too low to keep repeating for Senior Digits. But hey, he’s getting his news from facebook. :roll:

josef

March 5th, 2013
5:06 pm

JHM

“Whoops, should have checked before posting.”

And why should today be different from all other days? :-)

TBS

March 5th, 2013
5:07 pm

Hopefully the people of Venezuela are ready to push and work for a better government than what Chavez or the crooks he took over from you providing to that country.

I know someone who has lived under both. She claims they were both horrible. Says that Chavez was awful and anyone is kidding if they think the US backed government before him was worth a damn.

Fred ™

March 5th, 2013
5:07 pm

Considering your new “status”, may I suggest Vanilla Ice?

Well hell TBG, if you are backing THAT far up lets take it back to here………….

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ui1tUS6Ho-c

Joe Hussein Mama

March 5th, 2013
5:07 pm

Josef — “And why should today be different from all other days?”

You have a pleasant evening, Josef. :)

Erwin's cat

March 5th, 2013
5:07 pm

TBG – Considering your new “status”, may I suggest Vanilla Ice Yo!

In my best Jessie Pinkman voice

Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes

March 5th, 2013
5:08 pm

Tip: Just tell the kids that Hugo Chavez is up on the roof with the cat. And Andrew Breitbart.

Heh, heh, heh.

That Black Guy

March 5th, 2013
5:08 pm

TBS

March 5th, 2013
4:56 pm
Bro

Forget Luke…………. You need to go straight to Public Enemy and NWA if you really want to get back to where you need to be………….
____________________________
TBS, maybe we should enroll him in a remedial dance class.

Harlem Shake 101 :lol:

Doggone/GA

March 5th, 2013
5:10 pm

“Chavez has died”

And his VP is now claiming the US “infected” him with cancer. Personally, when I heard he left Cuba, my first thought was that he was going home to die.

Fred ™

March 5th, 2013
5:11 pm

Hey Scout: How about that Dow Jones?

That Black Guy

March 5th, 2013
5:11 pm

TBS

March 5th, 2013
4:57 pm
Bro

Some KRS1 and Tupac would help your cred as well……..
___________________________________
Well, if we really want to get him back, a little Jungle Bros and A Tribe Called Quest, is what the doc ordered.

TBS

March 5th, 2013
5:11 pm

Bro

If you are crankn this tune it just might be too late for you

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NtILxBszyf8

Welcome to the Occupation

March 5th, 2013
5:12 pm

getalife: “Occupation, / You broke the news before cnn”

Comrades have connections. :)

Steve

March 5th, 2013
5:12 pm

That outspoken New Jersey governor is the only one I think the GOP could raise up to win a national election so far. That’s about it.

TBS

March 5th, 2013
5:12 pm

TBG

TCQ could do it for sure.

They call me MISTER JamVet.

March 5th, 2013
5:13 pm

TBS, I only discovered 1990’s Fear of a Black Planet a few years ago and was damn impressed. Great talent – musically and production wise.

The future of the groove is in doubt

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yAEB914yOcw

And TBG, funny you mention that, my older bro sent me this today:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bGVagrpZUQY

Fred ™

March 5th, 2013
5:13 pm

Keep Up the Good Fight!

March 5th, 2013
5:14 pm

I think what we have here is a Fred infestation. :D His popularity is spreading. Now they name concert venues after him. What next, a new stadium?

http://www.accessatlanta.com/weblogs/atlanta-music-scene/2013/mar/05/fred-unveils-summer-concert-series/

TBS

March 5th, 2013
5:15 pm

josef

March 5th, 2013
5:15 pm

Fred and Red Cards? Our very own Tomáš Řepka!

JHM

Oh, I will now that you’re here. I don’t have to worry about being the most self-inflated, know-it all. pompous ᎠᎵᏍᏇᏚᏬ ᏫᏍᎽᏫᎢ ᎤᎧ on the blog. I can relax… :-)

They call me MISTER JamVet.

March 5th, 2013
5:16 pm

Brosephus™ - Comin' straight out of Compton

March 5th, 2013
5:17 pm

TBS @ 4:56

Advice heeded!!!

————–

josef

I think Mormon is about the only thing I have yet to be labeled with. I’ll have to dig through the archives to be sure. As for 8 inches of snow in Chicago, it’t not enough for Southerners to have to measure yet. :lol:

————–

Fred

:lol:

————–

TBG

No Vanilla Ice. That’s not gonna be enough to get my Melanin Membership Card back. I’ve gotta go full throttle….

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZmhUjOvzSo0

Joe Hussein Mama

March 5th, 2013
5:17 pm

Fred — “Hey Scout: How about that Dow Jones?”

I suspect that he’s not going to have a lot to say about that.

I envision him sitting at home at his computer, reading the day’s business news, while sparks shoot out of his ears in the manner of a Terminator android that’s just been whooped upside the head with a bigazz piece of structural steel.

After all, his 401k is up. And it’s allllllll Obama’s fault. XD

Cherokee

March 5th, 2013
5:17 pm

‘He is going to continue the blame game in his never ending campaign while the nation as a whole suffers through his gross negligence.

a complete lack of leadership.”

So Akimbo, where did you copy that from? Every con on these blogs says the same things, over and over and over.

Can’t any of you think for yourselves?

They call me MISTER JamVet.

March 5th, 2013
5:19 pm

June 8: World Classic Rockers featuring original artists from Lynyrd Skynyrd, Toto, Steppenwolf, Journey and Santana

Keep, two words.

FREE BIRD!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wHx7vaa9Fwo

Fred ™

March 5th, 2013
5:19 pm

Keep: I badder than Kudzu ever THOUGHT about being……….

Joe Hussein Mama

March 5th, 2013
5:20 pm

Josef — ” I don’t have to worry about being the most self-inflated, know-it all. pompous ᎠᎵᏍᏇᏚᏬ ᏫᏍᎽᏫᎢ ᎤᎧ on the blog.”

Shrug. Actually, you still do. :D

They call me MISTER JamVet.

March 5th, 2013
5:22 pm

Actually, you still do.

(LOL at josef’s expense!!!)

indigo

March 5th, 2013
5:23 pm

On the other hand, if we withdrew our forces in Afghanistan NOW, and deployed many of them along the border in our Southwest, we could plug up the illegal Mexican holes and not have to worry about creating a “magnet going forward for more illegal immigration”.

In addition, I’m sure our troops would much rather be in their own country doing needed work than being involved in a bloody, useless war far from home.

Fred ™

March 5th, 2013
5:25 pm

Hey bro, here is one posted by someone who needs to turn in their Rap creds lol. This is listed as “Sugarhill Gang” doing ‘The Double Dutch Bus………

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JPClhSNIstM

Brosephus™ - Comin' straight out of Compton

March 5th, 2013
5:32 pm

Fred ™

March 5th, 2013
5:33 pm

Well Brocephus, if it’s a REALLY bad infestation we need to take you back, close to the root…….

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8mq4UT4VnbE

They call me MISTER JamVet.

March 5th, 2013
5:33 pm

Tell me this thing doesn’t kick some major league ___!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cj96joB2vOs

Keep Up the Good Fight!

March 5th, 2013
5:34 pm

Jam, great tune but I would never go see it at the Fred. The hat check room is just overrated. ;)

Thomas

March 5th, 2013
5:34 pm

http://www.suntimes.com/business/savage/18145406-452/bad-news-youre-going-to-have-to-save-a-lot-more-for-retirement.html

So the Fed destroys the fixed income market and retirees forcing money to the stock market and the folks say “Thank you President”

If it weren’t so sad it would be funny.

josef

March 5th, 2013
5:34 pm

JHM

And you’re another one…so, there…

BROSEPHUS

:-)

Brosephus™ - Comin' straight out of Compton

March 5th, 2013
5:35 pm

Fred @ 5:25

Oh my freaking God!!! I’m thinking about reporting that one to YouTube as being offensive. :lol:

josef

March 5th, 2013
5:36 pm

JHM

Oh, I concede to you on that count…I know when I can’t compete… :-)

Logical Dude

March 5th, 2013
5:37 pm

Raising a glass to Tuesday Night Travellin’ Music.

(link to Pink’s “Raise Your Glass” to be inserted here)

josef

March 5th, 2013
5:37 pm

GOOD FIGHT
@ 5:34

:-)

Bernie

March 5th, 2013
5:38 pm

America has had enough of The Bush Clan. The last one surely almost brought America to the Brink of DESTRUCTION. A complete and total DESTRUCTION of (8) Eight years of UTTER IINCOMPETENCE!

Just say “NO” to JEB!

America will be a Better Nation because of it!

Fred ™

March 5th, 2013
5:38 pm

Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes

March 5th, 2013
5:40 pm

Bernie

March 5th, 2013
5:46 pm

Jay, Today you went from your inarticulate and uninformed narration on RACISM in Dekalb County.

Then a purposeful Tack to this Republican LITE opinion piece.

Your TRUE COLORS are on full display today!

No one is surprised by it. just wondering what took so long in revealing them!

getalife

March 5th, 2013
5:47 pm

You got that right Bernie.

Fred ™

March 5th, 2013
5:47 pm

Bless your heart Bernie, I’m sure your post makes sense to YOU lol……..

josef

March 5th, 2013
5:50 pm

JAY

Nothing wrong with showing your true colors “…and that’s why I love you…don’t be afraid to let them show..”

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tbZDjnWtK1A

getalife

March 5th, 2013
5:50 pm

bernie,

Right about jeb but wrong about jay.

barrys teleprompter

March 5th, 2013
5:50 pm

So sean penn’s boyfriend hugo chavez has died. Guess obama will need some comforting tonight, wonder if raul is on his way from the armpit known as chicago to wipe away barrys tears?

That Black Guy

March 5th, 2013
5:52 pm

Fred – haven’t heard that in a while.

JamVet – THAT was funny.

TBS – STILL one of my all time fav jams.

getalife

March 5th, 2013
5:52 pm

barrys teleprompter ,

Your name alone tells it all about you.

A true member of the party of stupid.

josef

March 5th, 2013
5:58 pm

Bernie has issues.

They call me MISTER JamVet.

March 5th, 2013
5:59 pm

Kam, I thought it was a parody. (Look how wrong I can be!)

Forget that T for Tolerance chick, gimme a T for Texas…

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SY63KTMrkTM

Brosephus™ - Comin' straight out of Compton

March 5th, 2013
5:59 pm

Bernie has issues.

You just disparaged almost everyone in the world that really have issues. Just sayin’

stands for decibels

March 5th, 2013
6:00 pm

bernie is pretty hilarious, although I wish he played for the other team.

barrys teleprompter

March 5th, 2013
6:01 pm

gotnolife at last admits his party affliation. Bet you wish you were holding your boy barry as he weeps tonight for his fallen comrade.

josef

March 5th, 2013
6:01 pm

BROSEPHUS

Ssshhhh…don’t tell Bernie that. He thinks he special… :-)

Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes

March 5th, 2013
6:03 pm

Kam, I thought it was a parody.

Yeah that’s why it’s funny.

Vast Right Wing Conspiracy (aka "Knuckle-Dragger")

March 5th, 2013
6:04 pm

Already going to work for Hillary? That’s a ways off. Anyway, the imperial viceroy may have declared himself the “imperial viceroy for life” by then.

getalife

March 5th, 2013
6:05 pm

lil bar,

Get lost clown.

That Black Guy

March 5th, 2013
6:05 pm

Fred ™

March 5th, 2013
5:47 pm
Bless your heart Bernie, I’m sure your post makes sense to YOU lol……..
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Fred, it can make sense to you too.

All you have to do is beat yourself in the head with a bag of frozen monkey nipples while snorting green M&M’s.

Just the green ones, the red ones are too trippy man. :lol:

getalife

March 5th, 2013
6:06 pm

Well, bernie is right about jeb so he should of stop posting after his first post.

TBS

March 5th, 2013
6:07 pm

Bernie

Are you the same blogger who was hiding under his bed before the election because Romney was a Mormon?

Apologize if that wasn’t you but your posts come across as being very familiar.

stands for decibels

March 5th, 2013
6:07 pm

bernie, Jeb is WORSE THAN HITLER. Clearly.

Brosephus™ - Comin' straight out of Compton

March 5th, 2013
6:07 pm

Already going to work for Hillary? That’s a ways off. Anyway, the imperial viceroy may have declared himself the “imperial viceroy for life” by then.

I think Bernie just got out Bernied….

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josef

March 5th, 2013
6:08 pm

SFD

I like Fred. He speaks HIS mind, not somebody else’s…a rare quality in this day and age…

TBG

That’s frikken funny!

That Black Guy

March 5th, 2013
6:08 pm

josef

March 5th, 2013
6:01 pm
BROSEPHUS

Ssshhhh…don’t tell Bernie that. He thinks he special…
________________________________________
He is “special”.

His bus is sooo short it’s a yellow unicycle. :lol:

Brosephus™ - Comin' straight out of Compton

March 5th, 2013
6:08 pm

They call me MISTER JamVet.

March 5th, 2013
6:10 pm

No one is surprised by it.

Unwittingly ironic…

0311/8541/5811/1811/1801

March 5th, 2013
6:11 pm

TBS:

“Good call. Maybe that will be your 1st article on your new blog.”

No …….. I post them here ……… and you don’t have to read them :o

stands for decibels

March 5th, 2013
6:11 pm

but josef, I do not think he is speaking his mind on that topic, he is just deliberately making crap up. And really, really dumbing down the meaning of the term “racist,” if that is even possible these days.

F. Sinkwich

March 5th, 2013
6:12 pm

“CARACAS, Venezuela — President Hugo Chavez, the fiery populist who declared a socialist revolution in Venezuela, crusaded against U.S. influence and championed a leftist revival across Latin America, died Tuesday at age 58 after a nearly two-year bout with cancer.”

*sniff*

Now the big question is whether O’bozo will attend his mentor’s funeral himself or send his Vice-Idiot Biden.

TBS

March 5th, 2013
6:12 pm

TBS

Scout I will continue to read the post I want to read and respond when I see fit.

Thanks.

Cloudodust

March 5th, 2013
6:12 pm

The illegal immigration issue will not be resolved by either party until we cut a sea lane, 50 to 100 miles wide between the Gulf and the Pacific and it’s patrolled by gunboats and subs. Dadgumit, it works pretty well for keeping out those pesky illegals from Europe and the Asia. Come to think of it, has anyone first hand knowledge of an Irishman or Chinese laying pinestraw lately..?

josef

March 5th, 2013
6:17 pm

TBG

Nyah…here it is…his is a collectible

http://matchbox.wikia.com/wiki/GMC_School_Bus

That Black Guy

March 5th, 2013
6:17 pm

Bro, I was thinking about X-Clan just before you posted that.

Scarey.

I feel like I snorted a red M&M.

That Black Guy

March 5th, 2013
6:18 pm

stands for decibels

March 5th, 2013
6:19 pm

anyway, doody calls, pheasant evening, all.

josef

March 5th, 2013
6:20 pm

SFD

Not really…he just goes ahead and says what a lot of people think but don’t have the chutzpah to say, and let the chips fall where they may…

Welcome to the Occupation

March 5th, 2013
6:21 pm

F. Sinkwich: “Now the big question is whether O’bozo will attend his mentor’s funeral himself or send his Vice-Idiot Biden.”

Ah I knew it. Couldn’t take long. :)

Obama attend Chavez’s funeral? That’ll be the day. Obama clearly despised everything Chavez stood for, and that’s because he’s the leader of the system of which Chavez was the sworn enemy.

Won’t be seeing any US heads of state at Chavez’s funeral. But I guess you know that, right? You were just kidding, right?

josef

March 5th, 2013
6:23 pm

Who will represent our country at that head of state’s funeral? Will we do the diplomatically proper thing and send someone? We do, after all, have diplomatic relations with the Republic of Venezuela.

Brosephus™ - Comin' straight out of Compton

March 5th, 2013
6:23 pm

Dadgumit, it works pretty well for keeping out those pesky illegals from Europe and the Asia. Come to think of it, has anyone first hand knowledge of an Irishman or Chinese laying pinestraw lately..?

Irish citizens in New York say What???

http://www.irishcentral.com/news/Another-lonely-Christmas-for-illegal-Irish-trapped-in-the-United-States-135602673.html

Billybob

March 5th, 2013
6:24 pm

love libs who try to pick the republican party’s candidates…….and starting so early too jay…..this one will never fly, a conservative will be the nominee in 2016…….

DannyX

March 5th, 2013
6:24 pm

“Now the big question is whether O’bozo will attend his mentor’s funeral himself or send his Vice-Idiot Biden.”

Probably not, Obama would be arrested if he went to the funeral. Haven’t you heard the news? Venezuela thinks Obama poisoned Chavez. Venezuela expelled 2 US diplomats today because of their suspicions.

getalife

March 5th, 2013
6:24 pm

Our government should send them our condolences and stay out of their elections.

Keep Up the Good Fight!

March 5th, 2013
6:25 pm

Dang, I went with the half-mast post, should have bet on the “attending funeral”. Perhaps Rodman is available?

getalife

March 5th, 2013
6:25 pm

“a conservative will be the nominee in 2016…….”

Who do you pick billbbob?

Brosephus™ - Comin' straight out of Compton

March 5th, 2013
6:25 pm

TBG

They were in the process of putting together a new release before one of the members died last year. Every now and then, I’ll break out a track or two to keep my melanin count in check. :)

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josef

I imagine they’re pulling straws at the Embassy in Venezuela to see who ends up going.

Doggone/GA

March 5th, 2013
6:27 pm

“Won’t be seeing any US heads of state at Chavez’s funeral”

How do you define “US heads of state” in the plural? By my count, there’s only one. The President.

But that aside, the Ambassador will probably go, if no now else…unless they run him out of the country first.

That Black Guy

March 5th, 2013
6:27 pm

Billybob

March 5th, 2013
6:24 pm
love libs who try to pick the republican party’s candidates…….and starting so early too jay…..this one will never fly, a conservative will be the nominee in 2016…….
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…and a Democrat will be elected President as a result. :roll:

DannyX

March 5th, 2013
6:27 pm

“love libs who try to pick the republican party’s candidates”

We’re not trying to pick them, we mock them. Cain, Bachmann, Perry, Newt, Romney, Santorum, Trump, its comedy gold.

Can’t wait for 2016.

getalife

March 5th, 2013
6:28 pm

They expelled our diplomats.

No Americans are going.

Ronald Reagan

March 5th, 2013
6:28 pm

We need another good President Like George W. & his father was! Hopefully all of the country won’t be dismantled by then!

They call me MISTER JamVet.

March 5th, 2013
6:29 pm

…a conservative will be the nominee in 2016…….

Like the “conservatives” you nominated in 2008 and 2012?

josef

March 5th, 2013
6:29 pm

BROSEPHUS

I imagine it’ll be that poor stenographer who was just posted… :-)

Doggone/GA

March 5th, 2013
6:29 pm

“love libs who try to pick the republican party’s candidates”

It’s really reverse psychology

DannyX

March 5th, 2013
6:30 pm

“a conservative will be the nominee in 2016″

He better be an Etch-a-Sketch conservative if he wants to be elected.

TBS

March 5th, 2013
6:31 pm

“love libs who try to pick the republican party’s candidates”

Republicans tried that lame excuse the last two elections. Talk radio really needs to give you guys a new talking point.

Those who voted in the Republican primary picked the last candidate, the one before that, etc and will do so again during the next time.

FYI: Works the same exact way for the Democrats

josef

March 5th, 2013
6:32 pm

getalife

@ 6:28

There is that…

getalife

March 5th, 2013
6:33 pm

Our President sent his condolences.

That is all we will do.

Brosephus™ - Comin' straight out of Compton

March 5th, 2013
6:33 pm

It’s likely that this will be the person in attendance…

http://caracas.usembassy.gov/about-us/charge-d-affaires.html

They call me MISTER JamVet.

March 5th, 2013
6:33 pm

If they get demolished once again in 2014, it may be time for the cons to consider…

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bFPaxK-q5gI

josef

March 5th, 2013
6:34 pm

TBS

Well, it IS Obama and the Dems fault they lost the last election…you can’t argue against that… :-)

getalife

March 5th, 2013
6:35 pm

16 primary will be the gop establishment vs the tea party.

I hope the tea party wins.

F. Sinkwich

March 5th, 2013
6:35 pm

Occutard:

“Won’t be seeing any US heads of state at Chavez’s funeral. But I guess you know that, right? You were just kidding, right?”

Well kinda. But you know, i know, and the world knows O’bozo will at least dial-up 1-800-FLOWERS.

I mean, after all, he can’t really be seen there. Politics and all.

Just like lib ilk disavow the term “liberal” prefering instead the more acceptable term “progressive,” no way can O’bozo publically embrace his idealogical butt-buddy without betraying to his lemmings like Jay and most of you here his marxist proclivities.

Brosephus™ - Comin' straight out of Compton

March 5th, 2013
6:36 pm

love libs who try to pick the republican party’s candidates

Seems as though Conservatives are the one’s who pick the Republican party’s candidates judging by the last cast of characters who were paraded around. It can’t be helped that conservatives are so predictable that libs can predict who they’re going to pick ahead of time. Conservatives need to quit being so predictable.

Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes

March 5th, 2013
6:36 pm

…..this one will never fly, a conservative will be the nominee in 2016…….

Perhaps Christine “I’m Not A Witch” O’Donnell?

It would solidify the Wiccan vote.

They’re about the only ones y’all haven’t directly alienated.

TBS

March 5th, 2013
6:36 pm

josef

Damn, I just chocked on my tea. Thanks

haahahahahaa

josef

March 5th, 2013
6:36 pm

BROSEPHUS
@ 6:33

I’m not sure, but I do think that would conform to protocol…

getalife

March 5th, 2013
6:37 pm

filky,

Dow hits record high to prove you are full of it.

Doggone/GA

March 5th, 2013
6:39 pm

“Conservatives need to quit being so predictable.”

Unpredictable conservatives? Isn’t that an inherent contradiction?

They call me MISTER JamVet.

March 5th, 2013
6:39 pm

Perhaps Christine “I’m Not A Witch” O’Donnell?

If so, I’d watch her campaign “religiously”!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ewJoJYlgj_w

TBS

March 5th, 2013
6:39 pm

“no way can O’bozo publically embrace his idealogical butt-buddy”

From the same blogger who was telling us about seeing Jam while he was “crusing around behind a shopping center”. Are you trying to tell us something?

Are you really Larry Craig or Mark Foley?

Did you teach Larry the latrine two step?

:-)

TBS

March 5th, 2013
6:40 pm

*cruising…….

There is another blogger who keeps trying to tell us something. Maybe you two can make a joint announcement

josef

March 5th, 2013
6:40 pm

K’CHAK

They’ve already got their folks at work on the commercials…

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KnMa652dZ5E

josef

March 5th, 2013
6:42 pm

They call me MISTER JamVet.

March 5th, 2013
6:43 pm

Ah, Christine.

She’s gotta be the foxiest little witch out there.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ggHk71Ht7vk

Brosephus™ - Comin' straight out of Compton

March 5th, 2013
6:43 pm

josef

Sounds about right…

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Doggone

You have a valid point there.

F. Sinkwich

March 5th, 2013
6:44 pm

F. Sinkwich:

“…no way can O’bozo publically embrace his idealogical butt-buddy without betraying to his lemmings like Jay and most of you here his marxist proclivities.”

I wish to amend my post, if I may.

Jay and his minions here know full well who O’bozo is. It’s from his doofus voters he wishes to keep his commie secrets.

TBS

March 5th, 2013
6:45 pm

josef

When it comes to the blog, this song came to mind after Sink’s post

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pAyKJAtDNCw

getalife

March 5th, 2013
6:46 pm

I hope Clint runs.

He is hilarious and can talk to empty chairs.

Pretty unpredictable.

getalife

March 5th, 2013
6:48 pm

Yes filky,

He is the President that gave us a record high Dow and your 401k’s are doing well.

You should thank him and stop the act.

It is old and tired.

josef

March 5th, 2013
6:48 pm

TBS

Ah, MJ…a classic American success story…only in America can you be born a poor, Black boy and die a rich, old White woman…

Nero

March 5th, 2013
6:50 pm

Yay! DOW hits record high. Country still chronically unemployed/underemployed. Greeeaaaattt!!!!

TBS

March 5th, 2013
6:50 pm

josef

heard that one before, but it is a great joke

:-)

F. Sinkwich

March 5th, 2013
6:52 pm

“Dow hits record high to prove you are full of it.”

That’s good, although no one has ever identified any affirmative action O’bozo took to effect this result. It happened in spite of him. It’s a rooster and the sunrise thing.

Have you asked any of those 8 million or so people who had jobs before O’bozo came to office but no longer do how they feel about it?

Didn’t think so.

josef

March 5th, 2013
6:52 pm

TBS

Yeah. It’s an oldie and I know I’m repeating myself…but, isn’t that protocol here?

Jay

March 5th, 2013
6:54 pm

“Perhaps Rodman is available??”

You mean the master of ding-dong diplomacy?

TBS

March 5th, 2013
6:54 pm

“but, isn’t that protocol here?”

You been here longer than I and even I know that

:-)

They call me MISTER JamVet.

March 5th, 2013
6:54 pm

get, that’s not a bad idea. Clint and Charlton Heston could run.

None of my beeswax, but feeding the Andy troll?

Really?

Christine’s theme song…

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eVXqocPAz1k

josef

March 5th, 2013
6:55 pm

SINKWICH

“Have you asked any of those 8 million or so people who had jobs before O’bozo came to office but no longer do how they feel about it?”

I thought they were getting rich off the government dole.

Fred ™

March 5th, 2013
6:59 pm

but josef, I do not think he is speaking his mind on that topic, he is just deliberately making crap up. And really, really dumbing down the meaning of the term “racist,” if that is even possible these days.

I have posted the sht TWICE for you now dB. I can’t help it if you didn;’t read it of have consciously decided NOT to believe what the MAN HIMSELF, Maulana Karenga, had to say about it.

Keep your head firmly inserted in your ass. I don’t really give a fat rat’s butt. NO ONE in the WORLD except a few, VERY FEW Black separatists even celebrate that crap except a couple of white wannabes like you. I’m done with this. Go hump someone else’s leg with this stupid racist MADE UP holiday that Black people WORLD WIDE reject.

Let me clue you in on something else Chief. Only in the US do dumb asses refer to black people as “African American” in the rest of the world black people are referred to as ……. come on……. wait for it……… BLACK. Even by black people.

I just loved hearing some ditzy broad, I think it was FOX 5 years ago refer to a BLACK South African as an “African American South African.”

Just damn. Political correctness gone wild from a wannabe…….

F. Sinkwich

March 5th, 2013
7:03 pm

“I thought they were getting rich off the government dole.”

Who ever said that, josef?

You’re making stuff up, aren’t you?

Nero

March 5th, 2013
7:03 pm

Yeah that 401K is doing fantastic what with your new part-time hours due to Obamacare. I feel like celebrating.

Welcome to the Occupation

March 5th, 2013
7:04 pm

“That’s good, although no one has ever identified any affirmative action O’bozo took to effect this result. It happened in spite of him. It’s a rooster and the sunrise thing.”

Lol. Hilarious.

Keep ‘em coming, Sinkie! You’re on a roll.

Nero

March 5th, 2013
7:05 pm

getalife is an empty chair.

Fred ™

March 5th, 2013
7:05 pm

Who will represent our country at that head of state’s funeral? Will we do the diplomatically proper thing and send someone? We do, after all, have diplomatic relations with the Republic of Venezuela.

John Kerry, Secretary of State. Besides, he’s expendable in my book lol.

josef

March 5th, 2013
7:06 pm

FRED
You make some good points there…it’s like that “Native American” thingie. As Unmentionable says, “as soon as I hear it, I know we’re in for a stroll down the Trail of Crocodile Tears.”

I had a student one year who wrote an excellent research paper on the experiences of the black Europeans under the Fascists. All through it he talked about the German, Hungarian, French, Dutch, Italian, “African Americans!” Oy!

Keep Up the Good Fight!

March 5th, 2013
7:06 pm

You mean the master of ding-dong diplomacy?

Now Jay, you leave Hostess out of this. Is that a variations of Nixon’s ping pong diplomacy? ;)

Welcome to the Occupation

March 5th, 2013
7:06 pm

“You mean the master of ding-dong diplomacy?”

I hadn’t heard of that type. What is it exactly? :)

josef

March 5th, 2013
7:08 pm

SINKWICH

I’m just trying to keep up…

Jm

March 5th, 2013
7:09 pm

Siyanara Chavez

Nero

March 5th, 2013
7:11 pm

Welcome,

Ding Dong Diplomacy..See John Kerry

barking frog

March 5th, 2013
7:11 pm

Jm
Siyanara Chavez
…………………………………………..
you’ll probably see him again..

Nero

March 5th, 2013
7:12 pm

Adios Comrade Chavez.

Jm

March 5th, 2013
7:14 pm

Frog

Nope

Socialists don’t go to heaven

F. Sinkwich

March 5th, 2013
7:15 pm

“Adios Comrade Chavez.”

O’bozo wept.

Fred ™

March 5th, 2013
7:16 pm

I know the weirdo’s will call me all sorts of names, but I’m serious about John Kerry going to Venezuela. If we can do ANYTHING to try to repair relations with them why not try it? Was Hugo a jack ass? Sure. but will the new guy be one? Unknown. Will the new guy be strong enoguh to remain in power? We don’t know. The CIA may have some ideas, but they ain’t sharing them with me.

The right wing nutcases seem to think that being FRIENDS with foreign nations populated by folks that aren’t WHITE, Southern Baptists is some how evil. Well except China for some damn reason……. Let’s GIVE peace a chance. Sure, keep our holster open but at least take the gun out of their heads and holster it. We can always quick draw if we HAVE to.

I’ve been to war before. It’s not fun. Let’s try something else.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AwNg4lHFj7I

Rightwing troll

March 5th, 2013
7:16 pm

Vote for Jeb… Because we want that $1.80/gal gas again…

Fred ™

March 5th, 2013
7:17 pm

josef: I hear you on the “native American” thing. LOL reading the dialog between you and dB, I would think I wasn’t the ONLY person today to have had a post removed……

barking frog

March 5th, 2013
7:17 pm

Jm
Socialists don’t go to heaven
……………………………………..
Capitalists have an even harder time getting there.
something about love of money…

josef

March 5th, 2013
7:18 pm

JM

“Socialists don’t go to heaven”

According to Mark and Luke they do….

Jm

March 5th, 2013
7:19 pm

Frog

Capitalists go to heaven because they improve the human condition

Thieves do not however

Jm

March 5th, 2013
7:20 pm

Josef

It’s an absurd discussion

But frog started it so I’m just playing along

Rightwing troll

March 5th, 2013
7:21 pm

Jesus was the ultimate socialist…

josef

March 5th, 2013
7:21 pm

FRED

Been a while since I’ve been sent to Big Daddy’s lower 40. But, then, I’ve been trying to be nice… :-)

Rightwing troll

March 5th, 2013
7:23 pm

Venezuela has oil, we could just invade… We’d be greeted with as liberators. Their oil would pay for it all…

F. Sinkwich

March 5th, 2013
7:24 pm

“The right wing nutcases seem to think that being FRIENDS with foreign nations populated by folks that aren’t WHITE, Southern Baptists is some how evil.”

Nice, Freddie. Got any names?

Nope.

Freddie is a racebaiter.

Who knew?

Redneck Convert (R--and proud of it)

March 5th, 2013
7:25 pm

Well, dang. We was awful close to getting the inside scoop on how they elect a pope, if the big dummy never wore a black hat instead of that red skull thingy and the wrong belt and a robe about five sizes too short.

http://www.foxnews.com/world/2013/03/05/cardinal-impostor-caught-sneaking-into-vatican-conclave/?intcmp=HPBucket

Fred ™

March 5th, 2013
7:26 pm

LOL josef, not you. You replied to something from dB that I can’t seem to find lol.

josef

March 5th, 2013
7:26 pm

JM

“Thieves do not however”

So, who was it that Cuzzin JC was talking to when he was reported to have said:

“And Jesus said unto him, Verily I say unto thee, Today shalt thou be with me in paradise.”
–Luke 23:43,

USA Patriot

March 5th, 2013
7:28 pm

Fred, don’t disagree w/ your take on Venezuela, what do we have to lose.

On another topic, what do you think about North Korea saying the cease fire is over on 3/11/13? Targeted strikes in the south?

Not a setup, I respect your input. Just curious.

Rightwing troll

March 5th, 2013
7:29 pm

Chavez and the bat Shiite crazy wing nuts have more in common than Chavez and Obama… They both hate the US government and that uppity colored guy in the whitehouse…

They call me MISTER JamVet.

March 5th, 2013
7:29 pm

Yeah, I’m still PO’d that Michelle B and Newt G didn’t win the whole damn shootin’ match.

She said she get gas down to $2/gallon and he said $2.50/gallon.

Had they won and put their brainy heads together, we could be driving around right now for about a buck, thirteen a gallon.

Damn shame there are so many stupid people in this country who won’t get off the plantation…

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ts9nmYUIlB8

Fred ™

March 5th, 2013
7:30 pm

It’s an absurd discussion

But frog started it so I’m just playing along

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q0zGXZa2dG0

Soothsayer

March 5th, 2013
7:33 pm

Well, we’ve got Emperor Nero (or is that Cryberius?), Fish Sandwich, and Jm all lending their expertise. What could go wrong?

Chavez was a communist. He did a lot for the poor and the disenfranchised in Venezuela. But, wait! Our capitalist system is so much better, right?

We ship their jobs to China and then curse them for being “takers” and “parasites.”

We have allowed Corporations to run our country. We live in a monopolistic economy. Our “democracy” is a farce. Our elections choose which politicos will represent the corporations interests.

Yeah, we’ve got it much better than Venezuelans. This capitalism is where it’s at!

F. Sinkwich

March 5th, 2013
7:33 pm

“She said she get gas down to $2/gallon and he said $2.50/gallon.”

And they said O’bozo wanted $4 or more, and would embrace policies to get us there.

And they were correct, huh?

Fred ™

March 5th, 2013
7:34 pm

USA Patriot: If they open fire, nuke their asses. Not literally a nuke, but bomb the hell out of them. They can’t stop us and we have the technology to really make them pay. We don’t to send troops, just ordinance.

Soothsayer

March 5th, 2013
7:35 pm

josef: that there jesus was Jewish feller, right? :lol:

same 'ol, same 'ol principled stand

March 5th, 2013
7:37 pm

Congressional Black Caucus members, who are all Democrats, flipped out the race card in the talks on the sequester Monday and said minorities will be unfairly and disproportionately impacted.

“Sequestration will impact everyone, but it will have a particularly harmful effect on communities of color who were hit first and worst by the great recession, and have yet to significantly feel the effects of the recovery,” said Rep. Barbara Lee, in The Hill.

Read more: http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2013/mar/5/democrats-pull-out-race-card-sequester-game/#ixzz2MiQDHPPU

USA Patriot

March 5th, 2013
7:38 pm

Fred: Yep. Have a brother there on “high alert” based on some 28 year old calling the shots. No more troops needed, we have too many there, and, couple of boats that have pretty good sites.

Thanks, for your response.

They call me MISTER JamVet.

March 5th, 2013
7:38 pm

The North Koreans?

They are to China what Israel is to us.

They ain’t even gonna sneeze without approval…

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q64aVDA-s3U

Welcome to the Occupation

March 5th, 2013
7:38 pm

“Socialists don’t go to heaven”

Doesn’t matter.

The “heaven” socialists are interested in is on this earth.

F. Sinkwich

March 5th, 2013
7:38 pm

“Chavez was a communist. He did a lot for the poor and the disenfranchised in Venezuela.”

Sooth luvs himself commies and O’bozo.

Once again, who knew?

Jack ®

March 5th, 2013
7:39 pm

Jeb Bush is a fine man and I like him. But he should just write his books and stay off teevee and out of politics because liberals cannot deal with a principled man as evidenced in the last election.

Soothsayer

March 5th, 2013
7:40 pm

Jam-man, I can’t believe you played that! I used to play that over and over at the old Waffle House in Sandy Springs! LOVE IT!

They call me MISTER JamVet.

March 5th, 2013
7:42 pm

Sequestration will impact everyone, but it will have a particularly harmful effect on communities of color who were hit first and worst by the great recession, and have yet to significantly feel the effects of the recovery,” said Rep. Barbara Lee, in The Hill.

Duh!

Ya think?!

same 'ol, same 'ol principled stand

March 5th, 2013
7:43 pm

The Obama administration’s position is: We promised the sky would fall if the sequester happened. So don’t do anything that will reduce its consequences — even when it’s possible.

======

“…So it is our opinion that however you manage that reduction, you need to make sure you are not contradicting what we said the impact would be.”…”

Read more: http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2013/mar/5/email-tells-feds-make-sequester-painful-promised/#ixzz2MiRg6lZP

getalife

March 5th, 2013
7:43 pm

Socialism is still saving the bankers and capitalism so you look like fools.

w was a socialist for the banks too.

That makes you a socialist too filky.

F. Sinkwich

March 5th, 2013
7:44 pm

Headline:

“World ends tomorrow. Minorities affected most”

Bwaahahahahahahaha

barking frog

March 5th, 2013
7:45 pm

Fred
Interesting video, which is which ?

getalife

March 5th, 2013
7:47 pm

Also, you look like fools saying the cuts are no problem.

They just started and it is for ten years.

The market is propped up to take the cuts, the American people not so much.

Brosephus™ - Comin' straight out of Compton

March 5th, 2013
7:47 pm

“Sequestration will impact everyone, but it will have a particularly harmful effect on communities of color who were hit first and worst by the great recession, and have yet to significantly feel the effects of the recovery,” said Rep. Barbara Lee, in The Hill.

Guess somebody at the Washington Times doesn’t actually understand what encompasses a community of color. Seems as though their neighbors have a better grasp of reality.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/local/education/sequester-related-education-cuts-hitting-schools-on-reservations-military-bases/2013/03/05/0887fed4-8506-11e2-98a3-b3db6b9ac586_story.html

The Window Rock School District, in the heart of the Navajo nation in Arizona, is proposing the unthinkable: closing three of its seven schools as a result of the federal sequester.

The schools are among 1,600 public schools on Native American reservations and military bases that are feeling the impact of federal cuts now, months before the rest of the country’s classrooms see the effect of reduced dollars from Washington.

[...]

Public education is largely funded by state and local governments; the federal government pays about 10 percent of the costs. Federal dollars are largely concentrated on poor children and those with disabilities, and the amounts are determined according to the number of children in each category in every state.

But two exceptions are schools on Indian reservations and military bases, which receive a larger share of their funds from Washington as compensation for the fact that they can’t raise funds from local property taxes. For example, the federal government pays 60 percent, or $14.7 million, of Window Rock School District’s $24.3 million annual budget.

[...]

In addition to funds for poor and disabled children, schools on federal lands receive a third stream of money known as Impact Aid. Under the sequester, they are seeing cuts to all three categories.

So, the “people of color” who always get screwed over are the first ones to get the “no vaseline” treatment on this one. Same as the Violence Against Women Act, the people who first settled the land get treated worse than dog sh*t on the bottom of a shoe.

getalife

March 5th, 2013
7:48 pm

“principled man as evidenced in the last election.”

True, he won twice Jack.

Fred ™

March 5th, 2013
7:48 pm

USA Patriot: Just as folks forget that China doesn’t have a naval force to speak of and an Air Force to even begin to compete with ours, N. Korea is backwards. Much of the Country doesn’t have effective electricity. What are they going to do? Invade the South? How? Drop the bridges and they are stuck.

As far as China? When they can invade Taiwan I’ll start to take notice.

Soothsayer

March 5th, 2013
7:49 pm

“Sooth luvs himself commies and O’bozo.”

No, Fish Sandwich, I don’t love Communism. It is usually accompanied by a brutal dictatorship like Chavez’s. And, no, I’m not particularly enamored with Obama.

But, this whole notion that Capitalism is the answer to everyone’s prayers is ludicrous. It’s just as brutal, if not more so, than Communism.

In many respects, he’s King Dumbass’s the First’s 3rd term. But he’s WA-A-A-A-A-AY better than any conceivable Republican candidate.

Remember this, Obama works within the constraints of the corporate fascism that rules this country. No matter what, though, you, me, all of us get focked.

Doggone/GA

March 5th, 2013
7:49 pm

“Jesus was the ultimate socialist”

Actually, no he wasn’t He left no directives about the ownership of the means of production that I can remember. Some of the churches that developed after his death were closer to communism than to socialism

getalife

March 5th, 2013
7:53 pm

Dang shame because the border was secure and they are releasing the immigrants.

Welcome to the Occupation

March 5th, 2013
7:54 pm

Statement From Former U.S. President Jimmy Carter on the Death of Hugo Chavez

Rosalynn and I extend our condolences to the family of Hugo Chávez Frías. We met Hugo Chávez when he was campaigning for president in 1998 and The Carter Center was invited to observe elections for the first time in Venezuela. We returned often, for the 2000 elections, and then to facilitate dialogue during the political conflict of 2002-2004. We came to know a man who expressed a vision to bring profound changes to his country to benefit especially those people who had felt neglected and marginalized. Although we have not agreed with all of the methods followed by his government, we have never doubted Hugo Chávez’s commitment to improving the lives of millions of his fellow countrymen.

[...]

http://www.cartercenter.org/news/pr/hugo-chavez-030513.html#.UTaS-irC3f8.twitter

Tundra Dude

March 5th, 2013
7:54 pm

Josef:
All through it he talked about the German, Hungarian, French, Dutch, Italian, “African Americans!” Oy!

HeHeHe….
Whatever happened to negroes….?
Trivia: As a merchant mariner, I visited 4 seaports in South Africa during apartheid. Negroes were referred to as Blankes….signs everywhere, on bus benches, restaurants, on the beach,
“Net Blankes” (no blacks)
The light-skinned were upgraded to Coloured, and given special privileges.

Jm

March 5th, 2013
7:57 pm

“Thou shalt not steal”

Apparently Jesus’ father was a capitalist

barking frog

March 5th, 2013
7:59 pm

Jm
Apparently Jesus’ father was a capitalist
………………………………………………….
He was a carpenter. probably a union member…

Normal, plain and simple...

March 5th, 2013
8:01 pm

“Socialists don’t go to heaven”

Said it once and I’ll say it again. I’d rather be in Hell with my friends than in Heaven with strangers…

godless heathen - owner of many things he does not need

March 5th, 2013
8:02 pm

All through it he talked about the German, Hungarian, French, Dutch, Italian, “African Americans!” Oy!

I’ve also heard of African-American Africans.

Normal, plain and simple...

March 5th, 2013
8:03 pm

“Apparently Jesus’ father was a capitalist”

I’d rather think he was an alien…saw a good show on History Channel 2 about aliens and the Bible. Made a lot m ore sense to me after that… :)

Jm

March 5th, 2013
8:04 pm

Jm
Apparently Jesus’ father was a capitalist
………………………………………………….
He was a carpenter. probably a union member…
—–

Non believer :)

Normal, plain and simple...

March 5th, 2013
8:06 pm

osef

March 5th, 2013
7:26 pm

The dune on one of the other crosses…right?

barking frog

March 5th, 2013
8:08 pm

Jm
Non believer
………………………………..
carpenters ? or unions ?

Doggone/GA

March 5th, 2013
8:08 pm

“The dune on one of the other crosses”

I thought it was the other way around. ;-)

josef

March 5th, 2013
8:08 pm

TUNDRA

At one time Louisiana (and the French Caribbean) had 64 racial classifications. They finally got it down to 16 and then to eight. The Occupation though simplified matters…anything not “pure white” was Negro. It made the occupation so much simpler, so simple in fact that they made sure to make it nice and legal with Plessy v Ferguson!

godless heathen - owner of many things he does not need

March 5th, 2013
8:09 pm

Said it once and I’ll say it again. I’d rather be in Hell with my friends than in Heaven with strangers…

+1

godless heathen - owner of many things he does not need

March 5th, 2013
8:11 pm

Apparently Jesus’ father was a capitalist

I dunno about that but we know he wasn’t getting any at home.

Soothsayer

March 5th, 2013
8:15 pm

[T]he American economy developed into a variant of corporatism or “tripartism,” an economic fascism defined by formal collusion between certain key interests and various arms of the state. “Corporatism,” writes Higgs, “faces the problem of factions directly; in effect, it resolves the problem of the people versus the interests by forthrightly declaring that the interests, when properly organized and channeled, are the people” Like every permutation of the authoritarian idea, the corporatism described by Higgs attempts to submerge the individual within the anatomy of the leviathan state—of which we must now regard many nominally “private” actors as a part.

These firms, in their partnership with the state, are “granted a deliberate, representational monopoly” as payment for a level of control exercised by government. The Power Elite [--] an intermeshed elite made up of a “political directorate,” the “warlords” of the military establishment, and “corporate chieftains” at the helm of Big Business bureaucracies.

Hardly resulting from the legitimate free market defended by libertarians, the social and economic problems and crises we see all around us are in fact the moldering fruits of elite statism. And war, as both the engine of an entire economic paradigm and its attendant psychological and sociological substructure, has been the American state’s most preferred expedient, burdening peaceful, productive society with class rule.

The permanent war economy, the unremitting exercise in plunder that now makes up a terrifyingly large portion of the economy at large, must necessarily poise itself upon antisocial state-worship.

“Fear is the principle of all despotic government, and therefore despots make war their first study and delight.” The existence of a corporate command-and-control economy, whose configuration grows out of layered state interventions, depends crucially on popular attitudes regarding the state.

Only a public trusting of elite judgment and expertise would abide a system built on just the kinds of subjugation that the American ruling elite hypocritically claimed to defy in two world wars.

Am I the only person on this blog who reads this kind of shyte? WTF do the rest of you idiots do with your time?

Jm

March 5th, 2013
8:15 pm

Frog

You say Jesus dad was a carpenter, not god

Non-believer you

godless heathen - owner of many things he does not need

March 5th, 2013
8:16 pm

Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes

March 5th, 2013
8:16 pm

josef

March 5th, 2013
8:17 pm

Heathen
Oh, I dunno…looking at the scriptures, he seemed to have been getting a good bit. Cuzzin JC had a passel of siblings…

Doggone/GA

March 5th, 2013
8:17 pm

“You say Jesus dad was a carpenter, not god”

he said Jesus Father was a carpenter

F. Sinkwich

March 5th, 2013
8:18 pm

Jimmy Carter? Really?

“…we have never doubted Hugo Chávez’s commitment to improving the lives of millions of his fellow countrymen.”

Clueless. As always.

Jm

March 5th, 2013
8:19 pm

Father

Dad

Potato

Potato

Silly libs

Normal, plain and simple...

March 5th, 2013
8:19 pm

Dude not dune…gawd, I’m type challenged.

barking frog

March 5th, 2013
8:20 pm

Jm
I think Joseph was married to Mary and as the child
was a product of the marriage then Joseph was the
father.

godless heathen - owner of many things he does not need

March 5th, 2013
8:20 pm

josef

March 5th, 2013
8:20 pm

SOOTH

Was he Jewish? Of course…you know the old saw, how do we know he was? He lived at home until he was 30, worked for his fathe, thought his mother was a virgin and she thought he was G-d… :-)

Doggone/GA

March 5th, 2013
8:21 pm

“Cuzzin JC had a passel of siblings”

Well, if you believe the Catholic Church they were brothers and sister “in spirit” – not in the flesh. Mary supposedly died a virgin

Jm

March 5th, 2013
8:21 pm

NPR has a positive review of Chavez’s many talents and capabilities

No kidding

So absurd

Normal, plain and simple...

March 5th, 2013
8:21 pm

Hells bells, god could be a carpenter if he wanted to. Shoot, he was a burning bush once…speaking of a burning bush, just wait W, just wait…

godless heathen - owner of many things he does not need

March 5th, 2013
8:22 pm

Oh, I dunno…looking at the scriptures, he seemed to have been getting a good bit. Cuzzin JC had a passel of siblings…

He was a Mormon?

Doggone/GA

March 5th, 2013
8:22 pm

“you know the old saw”

Josef…darn! I had forgotten ALL about that one!

F. Sinkwich

March 5th, 2013
8:23 pm

“Am I the only person on this blog who reads this kind of shyte?”

Apparently. You must have bunches of spare time.

Normal, plain and simple...

March 5th, 2013
8:23 pm

Mary could have been fooling around and Joseph was really gullible… :)

USA Patriot

March 5th, 2013
8:24 pm

Fred: China is more advanced than given credit, according to my source, but still have a long way to go. Unfortunately, they’re feeding NK w/ technology, weapons, etc., just no intelligence. NK has some small nukes that could make for a bad weekend and/or headlines. We’ll see. Always appreciate your perspective.

Soothsayer

March 5th, 2013
8:24 pm

Yeah, josef, he was poor as a church mouse until he received his inheritance from his Father.

godless heathen - owner of many things he does not need

March 5th, 2013
8:25 pm

NPR has a positive review of Chavez’s many talents and capabilities

No kidding

So absurd

The Heathen was interviewed on GPB today. Now that’s absurd.

godless heathen - owner of many things he does not need

March 5th, 2013
8:29 pm

…you talk about a waste of your taxpayer’s dollar.

Speaking of principled stand...or, was that promised stand

March 5th, 2013
8:31 pm

“I promise 100% transparency in my administration.”.
“I promise NO NEW TAXES on a family making less than $250K a year.”.
“I will allow 5 days of public comment before I sign any bills.”.
“I will remove earmarks from PORK projects before I sign any bill.”.
“I will end Income Tax for seniors making less than $50K a year.”.
“I will bring ALL of our troops home within ONE year.”
“I’ll put the Health Care negotiations on CSPAN so everyone can see who is at the table!”.
“I’ll have no lobbyists in my administration.”
“I’ll close Guantanamo.”
“I’ll resign if I don’t cut the deficit in half by the end of four years.”
“I’ll unite the people of this great country.”

Jm

March 5th, 2013
8:31 pm

Jimmy carter

“”President Chávez will be remembered for his bold assertion of autonomy and independence for Latin American governments and for his formidable communication skills and personal connection with supporters in his country and abroad to whom he gave hope and empowerment,” Carter said. “We hope that as Venezuelans mourn the passing of President Chávez and recall his positive legacies – especially the gains made for the poor and vulnerable – the political leaders will move the country forward by building a new consensus that ensures equal opportunities for all Venezuelans to participate in every aspect of national life.”

barking frog

March 5th, 2013
8:33 pm

Were I so inclined, Joseph would be my choice for
Chief Saint because he accepted the child from his
virgin bride and I can imagine him at the cross saying
well, I raised you right, taught you a trade but your
obsession with your godly aspirations has brought you
this bad end…

Tundra Dude

March 5th, 2013
8:34 pm

Josef:
At one time Louisiana (and the French Caribbean) had 64 racial classifications. They finally got it down to 16 and then to eight

Homus Bizzarro!!
(maybe they required all these classifications for their affirmative action programs…?)

Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes

March 5th, 2013
8:34 pm

Speaking of principled stand…or, was that promised stand

The smoking gun is the mushroom cloud.

We will be greeted as liberators.

Recon 0311 2533

March 5th, 2013
8:37 pm

All this about Jeb Bush when we have king flip flop in the oval office. A Jeb Bush/Rubio ticket in 016 could be interesting.

Soothsayer

March 5th, 2013
8:40 pm

For those astute among you, this is a time to quietly sell into strength and buy into weakness.

If you are long stocks, don’t wait too long. (Think housing market, 2006.) You may not be able to unwind your positions without significant losses. There may never be another opportunity like this to buy gold.

The stock market is defying gravity with Fed cash, while gold is shorted like crazy by the “big houses.” You’ll thank me later.

godless heathen - owner of many things he does not need

March 5th, 2013
8:42 pm

All this about Jeb Bush when we have king flip flop in the oval office. A Jeb Bush/Rubio ticket in 016 could be interesting.

They’ll take Florida’s 29 electoral votes. A few more than that will be needed.

Jm

March 5th, 2013
8:45 pm

Recon 0311 2533

March 5th, 2013
8:46 pm

They’ll take Florida’s 29 electoral votes. A few more than that will be needed.

Jeb Bush’s wife is Hispanic and with Rubio as his running mate they could make a good showing with the Hispanic voters.

godless heathen - owner of many things he does not need

March 5th, 2013
8:47 pm

There may never be another opportunity like this to buy gold.

heathen is getting that new grill and a chain tomorrow!

Doggone/GA

March 5th, 2013
8:54 pm

“Jeb Bush’s wife is Hispanic and with Rubio as his running mate they could make a good showing with the Hispanic voters.”

Sure. Should work at least as well as Sarah Palin getting McCain the female vote

Welcome to the Occupation

March 5th, 2013
9:00 pm

All staged, obviously. (He was just a dictator, you see.)

Venezuelans pour into streets to mourn Hugo Chavez

CARACAS, Venezuela (AP) — Hundreds of anguished Venezuelans poured into the streets of downtown Caracas crying, hugging each other and shouting slogans in support of President Hugo Chavez after learning of his death Tuesday.

….

http://www.chron.com/news/world/article/Venezuelans-pour-into-streets-to-mourn-Hugo-Chavez-4330894.php#photo-4285936

godless heathen - owner of many things he does not need

March 5th, 2013
9:07 pm

Sure. Should work at least as well as Sarah Palin getting McCain the female vote

+1

Redneck Convert (R--and proud of it)

March 5th, 2013
9:07 pm

Well, we need to send somebody to the Chavez funeral. Somebody’s that’s a complete phony and can act all cry-baby while kinda rejoicing inside.

Seems to be we can’t send anybody from the embassy down there. They already kicked two of them out and they might could arrest any of them that show up for the funeral. Besides, the mobs are liable to beat any American up. We need somebody that’s used to getting all beat up.

So my vote’s for sending Frank Sinkus.

Kam -- you're losing it bud. I can't even guess what you're trying to say

March 5th, 2013
9:13 pm

The smoking gun is the mushroom cloud.

We will be greeted as liberators.

La revolucion

March 5th, 2013
9:25 pm

Viva la Chavez!

Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes

March 5th, 2013
9:25 pm

So my vote’s for sending Frank Sinkus.

I’ll second that.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Kam — you’re losing it bud. I can’t even guess what you’re trying to say

I’ll act shocked and awed if it will make you feel any better.

:shock: :shock:

They call me MISTER JamVet.

March 5th, 2013
9:27 pm

The smoking gun is the mushroom cloud.

We will be greeted as liberators.

And….

Romney in a landslide.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W3cGxlZjMWU

appleseed

March 5th, 2013
9:28 pm

I think Chavez loved more by his people than americans love President Obama.

Josef

March 5th, 2013
9:30 pm

La revolution

So nice of you to be thinking of his wife. :-)

Tundra

I know it was said in jest, but, yeah it had an element of that to it…each classification had it’s own particular set asides…

Soothsayer

March 5th, 2013
9:33 pm

Soothsayer

March 5th, 2013
9:35 pm

Oh! and don’t forget: We can use the oil money to pay for the war. How did that work out?

They call me MISTER JamVet.

March 5th, 2013
9:38 pm

I think Cuba is loved more by its people than Republicans love America.

Pedal steel guitar by Bernie Leadon…

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z_M_27ciAKI

Tundra Dude

March 5th, 2013
9:40 pm

Josef:
I know it was said in jest, but, yeah it had an element of that to it…each classification had it’s own particular set asides…

Exactly, jest! ;-)
What are you….a history professor…??

stands for decibels

March 5th, 2013
9:41 pm

I have posted the sht TWICE for you now dB. I can’t help it if you didn;’t read it of have consciously decided NOT to believe what the MAN HIMSELF, Maulana Karenga, had to say about it.

I have read it. you either don’t know what the word “racist” actually means, or you’re just a liar. possibly both.

keith

March 5th, 2013
9:42 pm

hugo is dead. great news.

JKL2

March 5th, 2013
9:43 pm

Jay-

Good to see you are still stuck in campaign mode like our president. If you’re not keeping up with current, events, your guy won. No need to spend the next four years bashing anyone you feel will be a Republican candidate in 2016.

Soothsayer

March 5th, 2013
9:43 pm

1. Saddam had weapons of mass destruction.

2. Saddam had “yellow cake” uranium from Nigeria.

3. Saddam had “aluminum tubes” for enriching uranium.

4. Saddam was involved (somehow) in 9/11/2001.

5. Saudi Arabian “terrorists” hijacked and flew airliners into the WTC towers I, II, and 7, whereupon they each “collapsed” in a cloud of fine dust killing 3,000 Americans.

Only one of these statements is not a lie, right?

Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes

March 5th, 2013
9:44 pm

hugo is dead. great news.

So is Andrew Breitbart. Likewise.

td

March 5th, 2013
9:44 pm

godless heathen – owner of many things he does not need

March 5th, 2013
8:42 pm

All this about Jeb Bush when we have king flip flop in the oval office. A Jeb Bush/Rubio ticket in 016 could be interesting.

They’ll take Florida’s 29 electoral votes. A few more than that will be needed.

Can not have the President and the VP from the same state.

keith

March 5th, 2013
9:44 pm

obama: water boarding foreign terrorists is bad. assassinating American citizens IN THIS COUNTRY is ok. u\

Josef

March 5th, 2013
9:45 pm

Tundra

Just not a MAJOR one?

:-)

Okay, gotta run…g’night all

Fred ™

March 5th, 2013
9:45 pm

Lie this bitch:

Racist:
Dictionary.com
1. the belief that races have distinctive cultural characteristics determined by hereditary factors and that this endows some races with an intrinsic superiority over others
2. abusive or aggressive behaviour towards members of another race on the basis of such a belief
Meriam/Webster
1
: a belief that race is the primary determinant of human traits and capacities and that racial differences produce an inherent superiority of a particular race
2: racial prejudice or discrimination

The Free dictionary:
Adj. 1. racist – based on racial intolerance; “racist remarks”
racial – of or characteristic of race or races or arising from differences among groups; “racial differences”; “racial discrimination”
2. racist – discriminatory especially on the basis of race or religionracist – discriminatory especially on the basis of race or religion

td

March 5th, 2013
9:46 pm

Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes

March 5th, 2013
9:44 pm

hugo is dead. great news.

So is Andrew Breitbart. Likewise.

I guess if I said the same thing about MLK then that would be an acceptable statement to you as well.

keith

March 5th, 2013
9:46 pm

liberals love socialist thugs like hugo chavez, they hate patriotic Americans that expose corruption in zeros administration.

stands for decibels

March 5th, 2013
9:49 pm

You forgot Definition #3:

“Anyone who gets Fred all butthurt because he couldn’t play in someone-or-other’s reindeer games.”

There, there. You’ll be ok, really you will.

JKL2

March 5th, 2013
9:50 pm

welcome- Venezuelans pour into streets to mourn Hugo Chavez

Like the Russians did when Stalin died. When your whole life is dependent on the government and your meal ticket dies, there’s alot of fear and unrest.

Good thing we haven’t devolved into that kind of Democratic utopia in this country.

Welcome to the Occupation

March 5th, 2013
9:50 pm

“liberals love socialist thugs like hugo chavez, they hate patriotic Americans that expose corruption in zeros administration.”

Drink!

YouLibs

March 5th, 2013
9:51 pm

keith

Where you live is not reality.

Hope that helps.

JKL2

March 5th, 2013
9:52 pm

redneck- Well, we need to send somebody to the Chavez funeral. Somebody’s that’s a complete phony and can act all cry-baby while kinda rejoicing inside

It’s the VP’s job and Biden has that goofy act down cold.

Orange13

March 5th, 2013
9:52 pm

Come on people. You’re missing Hannity!

Soothsayer

March 5th, 2013
9:55 pm

“Come on people. You’re missing Hannity!”

I miss Vannity like a butt boil.

They call me MISTER JamVet.

March 5th, 2013
9:57 pm

I still laugh when I think about how that chubby Venezuelan said the UN still smelled like sulfur the day after W left.

you gotta admit, that was pretty damn funny.

keith, easy there cowboy! You’ve been doing better lately.

Don’t go all Chr*stian Conservative/!tchy F!nger/St*rm Tr**per on us again…

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E_aB_glnKxc

stands for decibels

March 5th, 2013
10:00 pm

I still laugh when I think about how that chubby Venezuelan said the UN still smelled like sulfur the day after W left.

Actually, I thought it was a pretty a-holish thing to say, at the time, and I still do.

/drive-by

Orange13

March 5th, 2013
10:07 pm

“It’s the VP’s job and Biden has that goofy act down cold.”

Yeah, maybe he will bring his double barrel shotgun. I’d pay 10 dollars to watch that.

kayaker 71

March 5th, 2013
10:09 pm

It’s a real shame that the chubby little socialist down south took a hit. Couldn’t happen to a more deserving guy.

appleseed

March 5th, 2013
10:13 pm

He called Bush the antichrist.Also called him a jackasss or donkey can’t remember for sure.Do remember heck of an insult to the animal which ever.

Those silly union 47%'ers of your president are at it again...

March 5th, 2013
10:14 pm

A school district is attempting to force teachers to pay union dues for the next 10 years, despite being located in Michigan, which is now a right-to-work state that specifically prohibits mandatory unionization.

Michigan became the 24th right-to-work state in December. But the law doesn’t take effect until March 28 — giving unions time to grandfather in their contracts if they can get them approved before the deadline. As part of this effort, the Taylor School District approved an entirely separate “union security agreement” that will force teachers to keep paying the union until 2023.

Under the security agreement, teachers’ only options will be to pay union dues, or pay an agency fee amounting to about $800 a year.

Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2013/03/05/teachers-fight-back-after-union-locks-in-dues-payments-for-next-10-years/#ixzz2Mj3Uni82

jhunt163

March 5th, 2013
10:14 pm

It’s a real shame that the chubby little socialist down south took a hit. Couldn’t happen to a more deserving guy.

At least he apparently left $2 Billion to his family. Nice champion of the people.

td

March 5th, 2013
10:19 pm

04:46 PM ET
Holder: Drone strike against Americans in the U.S. possible

Attorney General Eric Holder Tuesday stopped short of entirely ruling out a drone strike against an American citizen on U.S. soil—without trial.

Holder’s comment came in a letter to Sen. Rand Paul. Paul had sent a letter to President Obama’s CIA director nominee John Brennan asking for the administration’s views on the president’s power to authorize lethal force.

In the letter, Holder said “It is possible I suppose to imagine an extraordinary circumstance in which it would be necessary and appropriate under the Constitution and applicable laws of the United States for the President to authorize the military to use lethal force within the territory of the United States. “

In a separate letter, Brennan told Paul that the CIA has no such authority.

The nomination passed its first hurdle Tuesday with the Senate intelligence committee voting to approve the nomination in a 12-3 vote. Republican Senator Saxby Chambliss of Georgia said he voted against the nomination because of inconsistencies in Brennan’s testimony.

Earlier in the day, the White House agreed to provide legal documents written by Justice Department officials explaining the legal rationale for targeting Americans overseas who are involved in terror-related activities that threatened America or American interests.

http://security.blogs.cnn.com/2013/03/05/holder-drone-strike-against-americans-in-the-u-s-possible/?hpt=hp_t2

appleseed

March 5th, 2013
10:20 pm

Christie/Rubio better combo.Christie being Govn.democrat state will give him much experience.

Welcome to the Occupation

March 5th, 2013
10:22 pm

kayaker : “It’s a real shame that the chubby little socialist down south took a hit. Couldn’t happen to a more deserving guy. ”

Better show some class now. Otherwise some of us will be checking up on you to see if you’re whining and wailing to high heavens at all the brutal comments when the great “Iron Lady”, Miss Thatcher passes. You know the day’s coming.

appleseed

March 5th, 2013
10:32 pm

What would be difference drone,lethal force than burning a man up?Or remember waco?Both blamed on tear gas.Ruby ridge also.

bman.

March 5th, 2013
10:40 pm

The Occuguy seems to really be torn up over this Chavez thing….

Everything will be okay

0311/8541/5811/1811/1801

March 5th, 2013
10:46 pm

For those of you who may have missed this yesterday ……………. :o

MY LAZY GUN

“Today I swung my front door wide open and placed my Stevens 320 right in the doorway. I gave it 6 shells, and noticing that it had no legs, even placed it in my wheelchair to help it get around. I then left it alone and went about my business.

While I was gone, the mailman delivered my mail, the neighbor boy across the street mowed the yard, a girl walked her dog down the street, and quite a few cars stopped at the stop sign right in front of our house.

After about an hour, I checked on the gun. It was still sitting there in the wheelchair, right where I had left it. It hadn’t rolled itself outside. It certainly hadn’t killed anyone, even with the numerous opportunities it had been presented to do so. In fact, it hadn’t even loaded itself. Well you can imagine my surprise, with all the media hype about how dangerous guns are and how they kill people. Either the media is wrong, and it’s the misuse of guns by PEOPLE that kills people, or I’m in possession of the laziest gun in the world.

Alright, well I’m off to check on my spoons. I hear they’re making people fat.”

AUTHOR UNKNOWN

0311/8541/5811/1811/1801

March 5th, 2013
10:47 pm

CHAVEZ “DICTATES” NO MORE !

getalife

March 5th, 2013
10:49 pm

He will be remembered as the man that called w the devil in front of the world.

RIP .

TBS

March 5th, 2013
10:51 pm

“I guess if I said the same thing about MLK then that would be an acceptable statement to you as well.”

I’m not big on celebrating anyone’s death, but say what you wish. Breitbart was no MLK……… PERIOD

Uh Huh.......Third Time's a _harm

March 5th, 2013
10:51 pm

@Orange13

March 5th, 2013
10:07 pm
“It’s the VP’s job and Biden has that goofy act down cold.”

Yeah, maybe he will bring his double barrel shotgun. I’d pay 10 dollars to watch that.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Yeah and how much did you pay when VP Dick Cheney shot his friend

in the face??

Huh?

TBS

March 5th, 2013
10:52 pm

Scout

Chavez sucked. That goes without saying. You think he was able to get the people’s support because the US backed regimes before him did well by the people or didn’t do so well?

TBS

March 5th, 2013
10:55 pm

td

If you are still on, you posted something last night about your wife being Chinese. I can respect that, but it still doesn’t change the fact that the US spends 550M more in military related expenditures than China.

My mom is from Panama. That doesn’t make her or me an expert on the Panama Canal.

getalife

March 5th, 2013
10:58 pm

“We are broke” so other countries that do not agree with us are not our enemies.

We have one enemy and they are destroyed by President Obama.

No more wars but the cons are showing us why they should never be in charge on national security and the economy.

These cons and their party are epic failures.

A disaster waiting to happen.

Even in the minority they screwed up our recovery .

Welcome to the Occupation

March 5th, 2013
11:02 pm

TBS: “Chavez sucked. That goes without saying”

Evidently not in the opinion of the majorities of Venezuelans who re-elected him 3 times.

TBS

March 5th, 2013
11:06 pm

Welcome

While it is only one person and her family. I know someone who now lives in the states but grew up in Venezula. She lived under both US backed regimes and Chavez. She wasn’t impressed with either.

If you missed it that was the reason I phrased my question as I did to Scout. With all his bs, the alternative was worse.

That should tell people something, but those who just want to knock him because he was anti US, for the most part have no idea that it was even worse for many before Chavez. Hence is ability to get people to buy what he was selling even when it was crap

td

March 5th, 2013
11:06 pm

TBS

March 5th, 2013
10:55 pm

td

If you are still on, you posted something last night about your wife being Chinese. I can respect that, but it still doesn’t change the fact that the US spends 550M more in military related expenditures than China.

My mom is from Panama. That doesn’t make her or me an expert on the Panama Canal.

You did not get the point. $550 million is not enough against a standing army that is twice the size of our and are working day and night to try to find a way to sabotage our technology advantage while at the same time is increasing their spending while we are decreasing our spending.

JKL2

March 5th, 2013
11:14 pm

getalife- We have one enemy and they are destroyed by President Obama.

Are you talking about capitalism or the United States?

TBS

March 5th, 2013
11:16 pm

td

Ok little buddy.

When are we invading China?

JKL2 stated that China can transport 100s of 1000s by plane. True in its direct sense, but you think the US is just going to let them land in the US, Canada or Mexico?

Your logic is lacking to say the least.

So you are the one that doesn’t get the point.

You think the good ole USA doesn’t have the FBI, CIA, NSA, etc etc working to monitor and even steal technology of other countries?

Time for you to wake up and get in the real world.

No doubt China is and will be a player on the world scene, but if the td family wants to hide under their bed………. knock yourselves out.

The US and its allies rule the air and sea. If you took the time to look at the links I presented about the US spending more than the next 13 countries combined then you noticed how many US allies are in that next 13.

I will let you, let Rush scare you regarding the ChiComs……..

:-)

G Mare

March 5th, 2013
11:17 pm

I think that, in some small corner of his heart, Mr. Chavez did believe in helping the poor in his country. I give him a few points for that. He won much of MY heart when he called Mr. Bush the devil! In my opinion, the real devil was/is Mr. Cheney, sitting on Mr. Bush’s shoulder.

All together now, “The devil made me do it!”

TBS

March 5th, 2013
11:20 pm

G Mare

Glad you are back on the blog. Hope you are doing well and recovering or have recovered from your surgery.

Have a great night.

0311/8541/5811/1811/1801

March 5th, 2013
11:23 pm

A nation that exposes generations of children to this kind of brainless, inane, myopic, “zero-tolerance” will not long survive:

HEADLINE: “Boy, 7, suspended for shaping pastry into gun”

Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/us/2013/03/05/boy-7-suspended-for-shaping-pastry-into-gun-dad-says/#ixzz2MjKgF7sb

“A 7-year-old Maryland boy was suspended from school for two days for shaping a breakfast pastry into what his teacher thought looked like a gun, according to his father.

FoxBaltimore.com reports that Josh Welch, a second-grader at Park Elementary School in Baltimore, was eating a strawberry tart when he decided to shape it into a mountain.

“All I was trying to do was turn it into a mountain but, it didn’t look like a mountain really and it turned out to be a gun [kind of],” Josh told the station.

Josh, who suffers from attention deficit hyperactivity disorder, said his teacher was visibly mad when she saw that the pastry looked like a gun, according to the report.”

Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/us/2013/03/05/boy-7-suspended-for-shaping-pastry-into-gun-dad-says/#ixzz2MjKNJ7q2

TBS

March 5th, 2013
11:26 pm

Scout

Unless I just wanted to bs and didn’t know or want to know the truth, I would have avoided my question as well.

Everyone have a great night and an even better tomorrow.

later

Redneck Convert (R--and proud of it)

March 5th, 2013
11:30 pm

Well, good to have the Old Grey Mare with us, even if she does slam My President.

Have a good night everybody.

0311/8541/5811/1811/1801

March 5th, 2013
11:30 pm

Dictators stay in office for one reason ………………. they cannot bring themselves to give up their POWER ………….. the power that protects them and enriches them at the expense of the poor
peasants they supposedly want to help.

What HYPOCRISY !

He called Bush the “devil” ?

Well, in all probability he has met the real one.

Justice has been done.

TBS

March 5th, 2013
11:33 pm

Like I said, I wouldn’t want to answer my question either if I didn’t know or want to know the facts…………

and I’m gone

0311/8541/5811/1811/1801

March 5th, 2013
11:33 pm

TBS:

“Scout

Chavez sucked. That goes without saying. You think he was able to get the people’s support because the US backed regimes before him did well by the people or didn’t do so well?”

Guess what?

I don’t linger on here looking for your every question/response you may post ……….. sorry !

That said:

See my 11:30pm

TAPS !!

JKL2

March 5th, 2013
11:34 pm

scout-

Which is worse? A first grader expelled for dangerous looking pastries or the kids who got suspended for wrestling another kid to the ground while pointing his actual gun at another student (because they were “involved” in a gun incident).

The stock market may be up, but common sense is at an all-time low. (cue the OWS)

TBS

March 5th, 2013
11:35 pm

well one more

Scout if I mentioned US backed dictators, you would be the 1st to say the US has to play the cards dealt within that region because of geo political concerns, etc. I know because we have had this discussion before

Which is true, but speaking of HYPOCRISY………..

TBS

March 5th, 2013
11:36 pm

“I don’t linger on here looking for your every question/response you may post ……”

Especially the ones you can’t answer with any legitimate thought or truth…………………. but what is new

:-)

bman.

March 5th, 2013
11:36 pm

“He won much of MY heart when he called Mr. Bush the devil!”

awesome

Fred ™

March 5th, 2013
11:37 pm

You forgot Definition #3:

“Anyone who gets Fred all butthurt because he couldn’t play in someone-or-other’s reindeer games.”

There, there. You’ll be ok, really you will.

Wow that was really intelligent. You advanced your point exponentially. But since zero time anything is still zero, that’s not helping. But you go on you wannabe and celebrate that racist holiday Kwanzaa with the other 13,000 people worldwide who are asses as well…….. it doesn’t matter, you will still have a little white boy member…………

appleseed

March 5th, 2013
11:46 pm

I think China spends around 300 million on millitary, if you total all.They don’t always tell it like it is.
G Mare I think there is some good in most,Seems he helped with gasoline in this country to the poor.My memory going fast.

Bernie

March 5th, 2013
11:47 pm

To all of the many Comedian Posters here, who have DISSED, Bernie here today.

I told you and warned YOU ALL, about the MORMON who BAPTIZES DEAD PEOPLE and his SIDE KICK who looks like and is a DEAD RINGER for EDDIE MUNSTER……….. were LOSERS!

All I have to say to you is…….

NAH…NAH…..ne… ne …NAH…….NAH!

MOSES has opened the RED SEA! come on in BOYS……..the WATER is FINE! :)

The Republican Party BURIAL will be held in 2014. Comic Relief will be held graveside!

Welcome to the Occupation

March 5th, 2013
11:51 pm

TBS, I hear you. Thought that might have been what you were saying. I agree. Don’t know the specifics of your friend obviously, but I suppose it’s just something that has to be taken in its proper context in the larger background of what life is like for a poor country with coveted resources in a critical part of the world (they’re all critical) at the mercy of US imperial impositions. But of course, just to mention that right there takes you well beyond mainstream news and journalistic discussion — and well beyond Bookman-land, needless to say. And you may or may not agree. But I see it as indispensable for an understanding of what Chavez was about.

G Mare

March 5th, 2013
11:54 pm

Ah, Fred. Here’s hoping you will learn many truths as you grow older. I so wish I could be around to know you when you are my age.

Requiescat in pacem, Mr. Chavez. You earned a piece of my heart when you called Mr. Bush the devil.

Of course, we all know that the real devil was/is Mr. Cheney.

All together now, “the devil made me do it!”

bman.

March 6th, 2013
12:01 am

“You earned a piece of my heart when you called Mr. Bush the devil.”

did he keep it when he – “called Obama “A clown, embarrassment, shame to Black People” ?

bman.

March 6th, 2013
12:02 am

OccupyGuy – It’s going to be okay. Everything will be just fine.

appleseed

March 6th, 2013
12:02 am

Make that Billion

appleseed

March 6th, 2013
12:28 am

Although the USA spends more, it suggests China’s real defense spending approaches $300 billion. And all of that spending is concentrated in one region, East Asia, while the U.S. spending is spread out over many regions of the world.

G Mare

March 6th, 2013
12:39 am

Must have missed that, bman. As Fred will tell you, I AM old – 72 on Friday. But most of my body still works, except for the ears & eyes. Glad I still have my own teeth and most of my mind.

Jack ®

March 6th, 2013
5:20 am

Illegal immigrants should be adopted one by one by those that favor illegal entry. That’d make them legal. Or adopt three or four and have a big cozy supper ready for them each night when they come home from standing on street corners. Put your liberal piety where your mouth is.

Doggone/GA

March 6th, 2013
6:49 am

“Illegal immigrants should be adopted one by one by those that favor illegal entry. That’d make them legal”

Shoot, no need for that. All those con employers who are willing to pay them are doing that just fine.

Krystal'sBalls

March 6th, 2013
6:58 am

NO MORE BUSHES….PLEASE!!! Can’t that family find something ELSE to do????

I have bush fatigue!

Well…that is, the FAMILY Bush.

Mick

March 6th, 2013
7:21 am

Yes…I heartily concur…..was double bushed here in florida at the beginning of the milennium,,,NO MORE BUSHES IN ELECTED OFFICE……PLEASE!!!!!!!!

Normal, Plain and Simple

March 6th, 2013
7:24 am

Good morning to all y’all…

Del,
Last night you said:

“They’ll take Florida’s 29 electoral votes. A few more than that will be needed.”

“Jeb Bush’s wife is Hispanic and with Rubio as his running mate they could make a good showing with the Hispanic voters.”
——-

I don’t k now why Republicans think they can put a few token minorities on display and expect the minority masses to suddenly flock to their side, and expecting those masses to suddenly forget the GOP’s actual record regarding those same minorities. Insanity.

Normal, Plain and Simple

March 6th, 2013
7:32 am

Addendum to my 0724. The main problem I see with today’s GOP is that they think they are smarter than the rest of us, when they have proven time and tome again they are not. I can only hope they continue feeling so from 2014 through 2016.

If you want an example, look at Arkansas. The pass a ban on abortion, even over a veto, knowing full well that that ban is unconstitutional via Roe V. Wade. Now the Arkansas tax payers will be forced to pay for legal fees for a legal fight that is a forgone conclusion. It won’t stand. So I ask you how does this put the average tax payer, and woman on their side? And how does this help the Republican Party as a whole?

Liberal Bad Dream

March 6th, 2013
7:33 am

Bout time for Coocooman to write an article praising Chavez……

stands for decibels

March 6th, 2013
7:33 am

mornin’, bookmaniac clingers-on…

But you go on you wannabe and celebrate that racist holiday Kwanzaa with the other 13,000 people worldwide who are asses as well…

Fred, seriously–where did I ever post that I, personally, celebrate this holiday?

Hell’s bells, where did I ever post that I even think this holiday is particularly useful or especially worthy of respect? I haven’t, far as I can remember. I stuck to addressing your ongoing campaign of disinformation.

But I will say this. From what I do know of the holiday, it is an expression of solidarity, self-reliance, and commitment to community borne of the mid-60s civil rights movement, at a time when (I would think–I was a wee lad then and didn’t have much of a grasp of this stuff) such things were part of an overall bonding process among black Americans. All that sounds laudable enough to me, but I don’t actually have a dog in that hunt, since it’s not something my family celebrates. My kid knows a little bit about it, but that’s about it.

My only personal investment, really, comes from having endured a constant barrage of online weenies who cry and complain about ANY expressions of black solidarity, who sneer “what if there were a congressional WHITE caucus HUH??” and repeat the usual lies about Obama having belonged to a “racist” church. I am not condemning you to guilt by association with said wankers, but I gotta say, you sound an awful lot like those particular WATBs when you go on about Kwanzaa’s “racism”.

You remain committed to an indefensible position that you’ve dug in and stuck to for no other reason, far as I can tell, that you’re on record and now–and it’d be admitting some kind of massive defeat if you were to acknowledge you were merely being a tool, and a derriere-chapeau.

So Fred, you wanna stay dug in? Here’s a shovel, pal. Have fun.

MiltonMan

March 6th, 2013
7:38 am

…and Obama has never ever changed his mind???

I guess Jay missed a golden opportunity to write a piece on the passing of a good friend by the name of Chavez of the libs & hollywood clowns. Here is none other than Sean Penn:

Today the people of the United States lost a friend it never knew it had. And poor people around the world lost a champion,” says Penn in a statement to The Hollywood Reporter. “I lost a friend I was blessed to have. My thoughts are with the family of President Chavez and the people of Venezuela.”

Krystal'sBalls

March 6th, 2013
7:41 am

@Normal, Plain and Simple
March 6th, 2013
7:24 am

It is AMAZING! Sometimes I believe they truly DO NOT think that people can see how shallow and thin they truly are. They do not get the fact that we can see people like Herman Cain for who they truly are, which by the way people like Herman Cain play them just as much as they play him. So they think as you said putting “a few token minorities on display” every now and then will somehow convince the rest of us that they are inclusive.

If there is no message that should have been taken very seriously out of this past election (out of all that were put out there), it was the spot done by actress Rosie Perez. What she did was provide us that “keep it real” moment that many of us know so well. She spoke loudly for the entire minority community in saying that we are NOT some stupid, naive, uneducated, socio-politically unsavvy people. We really DO dissect your policies and attitudes toward us and they SUCK, period!

Granny Godzilla

March 6th, 2013
7:43 am

Liberal Bad Dream

March 6th, 2013
7:33 am

Bout time for Coocooman to write an article praising Chavez……
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http://blogs.ajc.com/jay-bookman-blog/2009/08/12/ok-this-time-hugo-chavez-has-gone-too-far/

stands for decibels

March 6th, 2013
7:43 am

Our first But Obama! @ 7.38. Thanks, Miltie.

Best to the fam and your secessionist friends!

Milkweed

March 6th, 2013
7:44 am

the blog registration seems to have dampened the lively (if not sometimes inane) discussions in other places. I must say that early on, I became frustrated with those who continually stray to vitriol and nonsense. Now, I believe that, like in a crowded room, people can still focus on useful conversations amidst the noise.
Would not bother me if you stayed with the open format.

Goldie

March 6th, 2013
7:46 am

What a shocker — another GOP-er who flip-flops on the issues! Just takin’ lessons from Mitt, their Party leader, I suppose.

:)

barking frog

March 6th, 2013
7:47 am

stands
having been around during the sixties and remembering the
situation at the time this holiday was created, it was needed.
Blacks were excluded for the most part from Hanukkah and had
a problem identifying with Christianity that presented mixed
messages in the civil rights movement. It is a holiday that is
not based on miracles derived from Judeo-Christian beliefs
and is quite refreshing in its current state of evolution from
the black separatist movement to a celebration of unity of
African expatriate descendents.

Recon 0311 2533

March 6th, 2013
7:49 am

don’t k now why Republicans think they can put a few token minorities on display and expect the minority masses to suddenly flock to their side,

Well the Democrats fielded Obama and the rests unfortunate history. Democrats haven’t done anything for Blacks and that realization will begin to spread as we see more independent thinking members of the Black community become more conservative in their political views. The old guard of aging liberal Democrats are losing their hold, it’s just that they haven’t realized it yet.

stands for decibels

March 6th, 2013
7:50 am

Meanwhile, from the “Awsh-t, now this?” file:

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/03/07/world/asia/malaysians-kill-filipino-fighters-amid-fears-of-wider-conflict.html?_r=0

MANILA – An air and ground assault by Malaysian forces killed at least 13 of the nearly 200 militants seeking to reclaim part of Borneo Island for a Filipino sultan, Malaysian police officials said on Wednesday afternoon.

[...]

In a sign of potential widening of the conflict, the rebel leader said that more of his fighters were planning to go to Borneo on their own to reinforce the Filipino combatants there, even though he did not support the incursion into Sabah.

To halt further incursions, Malaysian and Filipino naval ships have set up a blockade between the southern Philippines and Sabah, a distance that can be traversed by speedboat in about an hour.

Thomas Heyward Jr

March 6th, 2013
7:51 am

It IS amazing that alot of Pavlonian Amerikans hate who they’re told to.
I didn’t know Chavez…never been to Venazuala but…………………………………I DID hear him dis the previous War criminal that we had as president on international Television.
.
I remember thinking that it wasn’t a very good idea, but kind of funny.
Polonium is a terrible weapon but anyhoo……………………………
.
“If a man can be defined by the enemies he makes, then Chavez was a saint.”
-Raimondo

bookman parrot

March 6th, 2013
7:53 am

possible GOP candidate… Bookman must trash … umgowwa

stands for decibels

March 6th, 2013
7:53 am

It is a holiday that is not based on miracles derived from Judeo-Christian beliefs and is quite refreshing in its current state of evolution from the black separatist movement to a celebration of unity of African expatriate descendents.

Besides, Alan Powers, a.k.a. “The Brain” (from the PBS cartoon Arthur) celebrates it, so how bad could it be?

Mick

March 6th, 2013
7:53 am

A bush/rubio ticket would go down to a flaming defeat – the worst of both worlds! Bush, who wants any more wars? Rubio, a cuban hispanic whose ethnicity is reviled by all other hispanics, and why is that? What other minority group gets into this country just by making it to dry land? It’s absurd…..

Granny Godzilla

March 6th, 2013
7:55 am

Recon 0311 2533

March 6th, 2013
7:49 am

“The old guard of aging liberal Democrats are losing their hold, it’s just that they haven’t realized it yet.”

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I think not.

The middle aged guard and the young guard is even stronger Mr. Silly Pants!

kayaker 71

March 6th, 2013
7:56 am

Mick, 7:53,

“What other minority group gets into this country just by making it to dry land?”…… About 20M latinos.

Granny Godzilla

March 6th, 2013
7:57 am

bookman parrot

March 6th, 2013
7:53 am

possible GOP candidate… Bookman must trash … umgowwa
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impossible GOP candidate

He’s toast.

Stevie Ray

March 6th, 2013
7:58 am

Granny Godzilla

March 6th, 2013
7:55 am

I’ve become afraid to ask folks the definition of “middle” aged. I desparately want to remain in that club….party affiliation means little in that respect:-)

GT

March 6th, 2013
8:00 am

This seems to be the Republican Party of our generation. It thinks it has a license to sound good to its supporters yet turn and wink at the victims like you know I’m not that crazy.

The Republican Party has found slavery alive and well in third world countries and have destroyed the American economy by supporting cheap labor practices for profit, then rail about illegal immigration which actually helps the domestic economy and helps keep jobs here instead of going over seas. What is hard to understand is why the blue collar south supports something so toxic to their own well being.

Granny Godzilla

March 6th, 2013
8:03 am

Stevie Ray

March 6th, 2013
7:58 am

Granny Godzilla

March 6th, 2013
7:55 am

I’ve become afraid to ask folks the definition of “middle” aged. I desparately want to remain in that club….party affiliation means little in that respect:-)
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Afraid? Oh heavens Woman up!

Each age of your life is what you make it.

The last of our old uncles passed recently…..That makes all my brothers and sisters the
old aunts and uncles now, and our children the young ones.

ANd all of them still like to be affiliated with a good party!

It’s a marvelous transition to behold.

barking frog

March 6th, 2013
8:04 am

Granny Godzilla
The Democrats have also, especially in the last two Presidential
elections, absorbed those identifying as Independents. They may
not have attracted as many Republicans as they wanted but
have convinced many to stay home when extremists run for office.

They call me MISTER JamVet.

March 6th, 2013
8:04 am

Granny, you are correct, that 7:49 is plain old fashioned delusional. Everything about it.

It is the coded version of blacks are too stupid to realize that the Segregationist GOP is their best friend.

As for the Dems losing their hold, winning three out of the last four national elections is sure proof of that, huh?

Like the beatniks of the 50s said, “Crazy, man!”

Thomas Heyward Jr

March 6th, 2013
8:05 am

I’m no statist.
.
But it IS funny to see people hating on Hugo…………..as they fill their tanks up with five dollar a gallon of gas.
.
The price of gas in Venezuala?
18 cents a gallon.
.
Between Washington and our Socialistic well-subsidized gasoline companies and refiners in Amerika ………………that little Gulf of Mexico crossing raises the prices 5000%.
.
But Chavez was the bad guy.
.

weird.

straitroad

March 6th, 2013
8:05 am

As long as there are policticians, there will be flip flops, from the president on down. “Evolving” is what it’s termed when practiced by a politician that we’re ideologically aligned with. “Flip flopping” is only done by politicians that we don’t agree with.

Recon 0311 2533

March 6th, 2013
8:05 am

The Democrats don’t have much of a depth chart for 016. Hillary will be over the hill pushing 70 years of age in 2016 and shotgun Joe is too much of a joke to be a serious presidential candidate. When the campaigner-n-chief continues to drag this nation down to third world status the Democrats will be looking for places to hide in 016.

stands for decibels

March 6th, 2013
8:06 am

Rubio, a cuban hispanic whose ethnicity is reviled by all other hispanics

perhaps there’d be some of that, but I don’t know that it’d be such a big deal, since his parents emigrated prior to the revolution and that wacky immigration policy of ours didn’t play a role in his history.

I have to admit that while it seems silly to imagine he’d do gangbusters with the Hispanic vote, I don’t think it’d be a net negative. Of course I don’t experience the kind of day-to-day tensions that might exist with these communities that, I imagine, you have a chance to see where you live, down there in America’s Dong.

Granny Godzilla

March 6th, 2013
8:06 am

barking frog

March 6th, 2013
8:04 am

Granny Godzilla
The Democrats have also, especially in the last two Presidential
elections, absorbed those identifying as Independents. They may
not have attracted as many Republicans as they wanted but
have convinced many to stay home when extremists run for office.
.
.
.
This independent voter agrees!

stands for decibels

March 6th, 2013
8:09 am

But Chavez was the bad guy.

heh. Is that a Scarface ref? in any case, well played, sir.

Normal, Plain and Simple

March 6th, 2013
8:09 am

Del,
It’s not the Republican side the minorities are flocking to. As long as they keep voting Democrat, the GOP has no chance at the White House. The GOP has many years of anti immigrant/minority record to play down. That won’t be done with just Rubio, just as it wasn’t with Palin.

Normal, Plain and Simple

March 6th, 2013
8:12 am

Hugo Chavez was one of those “Reformers” who wanted the best for his countrymen, but once in office, the taste of power and all that goes with it seduced him. He is/was just another example of “power corrupts and absolute power corrupts absolutely”.

Welcome to the Occupation

March 6th, 2013
8:15 am

“Requiescat in pacem, Mr. Chavez. You earned a piece of my heart when you called Mr. Bush the devil.”

Indeed.

GT

March 6th, 2013
8:15 am

barking frog O won the last election surprising the right with his grassroots support. The problem with the right is they have no idea what their constituency is thinking. They throw blind punches spend lots of money and then have no results. And these are the guys you want running the country. They spent or wasted twice as much money, really pissed it way, and they call themselves conservatives?

Recon 0311 2533

March 6th, 2013
8:16 am

House. The GOP has many years of anti immigrant/minority record to play down.

Normal, that my friend is a myth that the Democrats have successfully perpetuated among minorities for a long time but it’s reaching its “sell by” expiration date.

stands for decibels

March 6th, 2013
8:17 am

As long as there are policticians, there will be flip flops, from the president on down. “Evolving” is what it’s termed when practiced by a politician that we’re ideologically aligned with. “Flip flopping” is only done by politicians that we don’t agree with.

All quite true, but in case you think that was the thrust of Jay’s piece, I think you’re wrong. Jay’s simply pointing out that political realities have forced Bush’s hand to thread this particular needle. It’s more about those realities than a personal take-down of the former Governor, I think.

(Granted, he takes a bit of a cheap shot in the headline, and he does use the term “flip flop”, but hey, you gotta market your wares, right?)

Stevie Ray

March 6th, 2013
8:18 am

GT

March 6th, 2013
8:00 am

BS penalty flag. Offshoring jobs is nothing new and cetainly not the sole territory of GOP’s. The tactic started to really take off in the mid-late 1980’s with large technology companies who needed to keep competition real with global competitors. I wouldn’t exactly refer to a majority of these enterprises as GOP’s. Apple, Seagate, HP, Microsoft, and the list goes on…this offshoring is nothing new, not the domain of any particular political party, and simply good business for a variety of reasons.

The volume of BS and arm waving about offshoring exceeds the problem several fold. Folks in US don’t want these jobs unless they are paid way above what global competitors pay. The root cause is participation in the global market. Our workers won’t accept competitive global wages…for good reason.

These jobs will never return to US…makes no sense.

GT

March 6th, 2013
8:19 am

Has anyone read about the Kennedy heating oil relationship with Chavez. Watch and see if O doesn’t use that to his advantage in his relationship with whomever the new leader of that country is.

barking frog

March 6th, 2013
8:19 am

GT
you are correct, but Obama also surprised the hell out of
the Democrats, especially the Clinton Clique…

Stevie Ray

March 6th, 2013
8:22 am

stands for decibels

March 6th, 2013
8:17 am

Agreed. What’s really funny to me is the idiotic and completely impractical ideas put forth by GOP and lack of those put forth by DEMS. Political hot potato as votes are at stake.

Bush’s idea of sending them self deporting and then returning after paying $5k was one of the dumbest in the history of dumb ideas…Self deportation? Please…the problem may be trending toward a solution as more attractive employment options are beginning to exist back home…kinda like the South Park episode where all the illegals where jumping the fence to get out of US and we turned our guns toward keeping them in for fear out lawns and the like would go untended..

stands for decibels

March 6th, 2013
8:22 am

“Requiescat in pacem, Mr. Chavez. You earned a piece of my heart when you called Mr. Bush the devil.”

Indeed.

Ok, just so I’m on record as to why it was an a-holish thing for him to say? It’s not the words themselves, so much, as the setting. These UN headquarters are in New York City; we Americans host these national leaders, and for another leader to say what he said, in that place, he’s not just being disrespectful to Bush, but (by extension, IMHO) his hosts.

Basically, I felt kind of like someone had said something nasty about a family member at some event my family had hosted. I might think that family member is a jerk, but it’s not up to someone else to say it.

If that makes any sense. I know this sense of wounded pride may sound silly, but it’s still there in my gut, FWIW.

Brosephus™ - Comin' straight out of Compton

March 6th, 2013
8:24 am

Democrats haven’t done anything for Blacks and that realization will begin to spread as we see more independent thinking members of the Black community become more conservative in their political views.

Blacks already have conservative views. We simply refuse to align ourselves with the current “conservative” party. Personally, I’d love to see all minorities band together and marginalize both parties. I doubt that would ever happen, but it would cause one of two possible things to happen. First, Whites would have to realize they are no longer in majority control and will have to learn to work WITH people instead of working AROUND them. Either that, or we would likely see people’s true colors with an emergence of American styled apartheid being instituted to keep the new minority in power.

————–

“What other minority group gets into this country just by making it to dry land?”…… About 20M latinos.

Last time I checked, Irish people were not considered Latino. Neither are Brazilians. When you add in those illegal Asians, Africans, and other non-Latin areas, I seriously doubt that statement is even remotely true. However, don’t let me stop you from your illegal latino fantasy there. :roll:

barking frog

March 6th, 2013
8:24 am

The third worlding of America is not being done by
either party but by greedy corporate management
focusing on short term profits to the detriment of
their shareholders, employees, and the public.
The parties need to come together to stop this.

stands for decibels

March 6th, 2013
8:25 am

The problem with the right is they have no idea what their constituency is thinking.

Or, perhaps, they know full well what their constituency is thinking, they are doing the best they can to piece together a coalition of self-loathing working class Americans and plutocratic benefactors, and it is continually coming apart at the seams but they have the wherewithal to patch it back together more or less ad infinitum?

Welcome to the Occupation

March 6th, 2013
8:25 am

Normal: “Hugo Chavez was one of those “Reformers” who wanted the best for his countrymen, but once in office, the taste of power and all that goes with it seduced him. He is/was just another example of “power corrupts and absolute power corrupts absolutely”

Can you name one single abuse of power or example of political corruption that existed under Hugo Chavez that didn’t already exist under the corporate-run oligarchic developing nation that the US not only backed for decades, but help up as exemplary? It was only when the country was led by a self-proclaimed “socialist” (a BIGGGGG no-no in Washington) and then actually — gasp — proposed to use the nation’s oil revenues to help address devastating poverty in the slums of Caracas and throughout the country that Venzuela actually became a banana republic with a kook leader in the eyes of the Washington establishment. But before that, that same banana republic that was rotted from the inside out with oligarchic corruption was just the darling of the serious Washington thinker types and was held up as a model for developing nations.

So what happened, normal, that suddenly made Venezuala a terrible hell-hole?

Doggone/GA

March 6th, 2013
8:26 am

“we Americans host these national leaders, and for another leader to say what he said, in that place, he’s not just being disrespectful to Bush, but (by extension, IMHO) his hosts”

and I don’t agree. We stand on the principle of free speech. That means we are free to criticise and even insult our leaders. There’s no reason that principle doesn’t extend to the leaders of other countries.

Granny Godzilla

March 6th, 2013
8:26 am

con 0311 2533

March 6th, 2013
8:16 am

House. The GOP has many years of anti immigrant/minority record to play down.

Normal, that my friend is a myth that the Democrats have successfully perpetuated among minorities for a long time but it’s reaching its “sell by” expiration date.
.
.
.
.
Are you suggesting that minorities “aren’t too bright”?

First, you’re wrong, they don’t fall for myths.

Second, when will you ever understand that as long as you and your posse keep suggesting
this you will not win?

Welcome to the Occupation

March 6th, 2013
8:28 am

stands: “Basically, I felt kind of like someone had said something nasty about a family member at some event my family had hosted. I might think that family member is a jerk, but it’s not up to someone else to say it. ”

I can respect that opinion. And there’s no doubt truth to it.

Mick

March 6th, 2013
8:29 am

yaker

Cubans get to stay here LEGALLY just by making it to land. Any other immigrant group get that kind of treatment???

stands

In the melting pot that is miami, trust me, all the other hispanics that are not cuban revile them for their general arrogance and special treatment…

stands for decibels

March 6th, 2013
8:30 am

…as I typed that rantish bit @ 8.22, I remembered Charlie Rangel saying something similar, so I dug it out, just FYI.

http://wizbangblog.com/content/2006/09/21/rangel-and-pelosi-denounce-chavez-devil-comments.php

I want to express my extreme displeasure with statements by the President of Venezuela attacking U.S. President George Bush in such a personal and disparaging way during his remarks at the United Nations General Assembly.

It should be clear to all heads of government that criticism of Bush Administration policies, either domestic or foreign, does not entitle them to attack the President personally.

George Bush is the President of the United States and represents the entire country. Any demeaning public attack against him is viewed by Republicans and Democrats, and all Americans, as an attack on all of us.

And for the record, here was Nancy Pelosi:

“Hugo Chavez fancies himself a modern day Simon Bolivar but all he is an everyday thug,” House Democratic Leader Nancy Pelosi said at a news conference, referring to Chavez’ comments in a U.N. General Assembly speech on Wednesday.

“Hugo Chavez abused the privilege that he had, speaking at the United Nations,” said Pelosi, a frequent Bush critic. “He demeaned himself and he demeaned Venezuela.”

indigo

March 6th, 2013
8:30 am

GT – 8:00 “what is hard to understand is why the blue collar South supports something so toxic to their own well being”.

Years of highly skilled brainwashing from The Republican Party, Big Business and fundamentalist pastors have made the blue collar electorate a modern equivelant of Lenin’s “useful idiots”.

They will happily stand by while Big Business moguls systematically ruin America while enriching their own personal estates.

There is no cure for stupid.

Finn McCool (The System isn't Broken; It's Fixed)

March 6th, 2013
8:30 am

We got creamed for talking about that.

LOL. I was kinda hoping the Cons would self-deport after the election. Oh well…it was a good dream.

Gale

March 6th, 2013
8:32 am

100% barking frog @8:24

Finn McCool (The System isn't Broken; It's Fixed)

March 6th, 2013
8:32 am

all the other hispanics that are not cuban revile them

but they make such tasty sandwiches…

BSNBC

March 6th, 2013
8:33 am

The Grand flip-flopper of all time is Obama! Say anything, do anything to get an uninflrmed voter and lie to the American public!

St Simons - he-ne-ha

March 6th, 2013
8:34 am

their last, very last election of relevance, and they’re going with – a Bush?

oh lord, from your mouth to god’s ear, cons – pleeeease run him, please

Escaped from Email Purgatory

March 6th, 2013
8:34 am

“Those who have immigrated here illegally were drawn by jobs, the chance to escape Third World living conditions or greater opportunity for their children. Getting U.S. citizenship was way, way down on their list. A nice possibility, maybe, but hardly a deciding factor.”

The conclusion you seem to draw here, Bookman is that millions of illegals (Slur deployment! Slur deployment! Raise PC Breach Status to DefCon 3!) have no intention of mainstreaming themselves in the US.

So behaving as responsible American citizens (filing tax returns, buying insurance, possessing legal documents that provide valid ID and address) is not really a concern. In large measure, they live and work in a social and economic underground.

An existence that provides benefit to commerce perhaps but great detriment to our local and national social welfare infrastructure

“The notion that a path to legalization would be a less powerful magnet than a path to citizenship makes no sense…”

You may be correct. But you’re painting a mighty grim picuture.

You or our President got any bright ideas?

At least Bush is thinking about a viable solution. How many times do you go back to the drawing board – retrace your steps even – when you try to solve complicated problems?

Oh, I forget. That’s the not our President’s style. That’s too much work. No. His political success plan – the only success that really matters to him – is to identify crisis (I’ll resist the urge to say “create crisis”) and exploit it to his political advantage.

As the Wicked Witch of the West moaned as she was vaporizing into thin air, “What a world! What a world!”

Finn McCool (The System isn't Broken; It's Fixed)

March 6th, 2013
8:35 am

Normal, that my friend is a myth that the Democrats have successfully perpetuated among minorities for a long time but it’s reaching its “sell by” expiration date.

Yeah, like the treatment of Sotomayor by the Cons in the Senate was all just a fabrication?

Finn McCool (The System isn't Broken; It's Fixed)

March 6th, 2013
8:36 am

an uninflrmed vote

Am i unfirmed?

barking frog

March 6th, 2013
8:36 am

indigo 8:30
the same faces in the republican party were in the
democratic party in the south 40 years ago when I
was fighting their good old boy crap back then. they
are not party centric, they are egocentric, and they
were duping the same people they are today.

Brosephus™ - Comin' straight out of Compton

March 6th, 2013
8:38 am

frog @ 8:24

Damn right!!!

GT

March 6th, 2013
8:38 am

Stevie Ray I would say South Carolina would disagree with you on “the exist”. Textiles left that state in shambles a few decades earlier. One of the reasons the Tea Party has found its hold in South Carolina is the politicians like Strom Thurman have convinced the people of South Carolina that the federal government was responsible for their poverty, they didn’t support the domestic textile business, and Old Strom and now the Tea Party is going to be their savior.

I would say until O bail them out the car industry for years was losing traction and jobs to imports. It was Bush that bailed the banks out but O understood the jobs being lost to foreign markets in the car industry, two very different salvage jobs with only one working.

Your two largest black holes in Atlanta are the old Hapeville Ford Plant and the Doraville GM Plant. Sucked the economy right out of these towns and took it to West Point, where the state of Georgia bleeds to death supporting a Korean employer who makes a large part of the cars in plants in Korea and ships them to be assembled in West Point. Very much ,again, supported by a Republican governor. Hell a healthy percent of the workers in West Point live in Alabama, 7 miles from the plant, not Georgia who is paying for the concessions given the Korean company.

kayaker 71

March 6th, 2013
8:39 am

Mick 8:29,

The 20M or so illegals form south of the border never had to leave dry land to get to Amerika. Mostly Mexican with a healthy smattering of those from Nicaragua, The Dominican Republic, El Salvador and Honduras. The Pew Institute determines that there are only 11.1M illegals in this country, however. That number is probably conservative, as there are no easy ways to determine the mix. All good solid Democratic voters, however.

TaxPayer

March 6th, 2013
8:40 am

Number two! Come on cons. Your’re slipping. Deregulate something else so you can be Number One.

Thomas Heyward Jr

March 6th, 2013
8:40 am

Welcome to the Occupation
.
So what happened, normal, that suddenly made Venezuala a terrible hell-hole?
.
——————————————————————
.
Normal has bananna envy.
OUR Bannana Republic has no banannas.
.
We have to import them.
.
sad

St Simons - he-ne-ha

March 6th, 2013
8:41 am

In Venezuela, if the oil revenue split remains 80/20, then it was

a movement, not a dictator, and another con lie will bite the dust.

Welcome to the Occupation

March 6th, 2013
8:41 am

stands for decibels: “I want to express my extreme displeasure with statements by the President of Venezuela attacking U.S. President George Bush in such a personal and disparaging way during his remarks at the United Nations General Assembly.”

Leave it to a liberal to defend a political enemy.

(See where I differ from liberals?)

While I can certainly understand people of all political persuasions taking exception to the statements, to then take the step of issuing a statement shows in my mind that the person issuing it identifies with American empire and ultimately withholds his loyalty for that empire and its prerogatives.

But not surprising coming from a good liberal from the “Empire” state.

Brosephus™ - Comin' straight out of Compton

March 6th, 2013
8:41 am

where the state of Georgia bleeds to death supporting a Korean employer who makes a large part of the cars in plants in Korea and ships them to be assembled in West Point.

Not entirely truthful there. Kia and Hyundai have their own suppliers, Korean companies, that have set up US operations here. Companies like Smart Alabama, Mobis USA, and others make the parts here that go into the cars assembled here. I don’t think the cars are 100% American built, but there are parts produced here as opposed to everything being shipped from Korea.

Welcome to the Occupation

March 6th, 2013
8:44 am

Mis-stated the above, stands. Meant to write that a person issuing it identifies with the American imperial ego and ultimately reserves the right to assert its prerogatives when that sense of entitlement is wounded, in reactionary fashion, regardless of said politician’s putative ‘liberal’ or ‘progressive’ status on domestic issues. And that disjunction is a Democratic party specialty.

Stevie Ray

March 6th, 2013
8:45 am

Granny Godzilla

March 6th, 2013
8:03 am

I can tell you that it is with great honor that I maintain the maturity of a 15 year old.

Peadawg

March 6th, 2013
8:46 am

Keep Up the Good Fight!

March 6th, 2013
8:47 am

I can tell you that it is with great honor that I maintain the maturity of a 15 year old.

Way to reach for the stars there Stevie! :D

Brosephus™ - Comin' straight out of Compton

March 6th, 2013
8:47 am

http://immigration.procon.org/view.resource.php?resourceID=000844

*Estimated 11 Million, not 20 million

http://immigration.procon.org/view.resource.php?resourceID=000845

Top 10 Countries of Origin and Percent Change, 2000-2008

I didn’t realize that citizens of #4 Philippines, #6 Korea, #7 China, #8 Brazil, and #10 India were all considered Hispanic.
:roll:

Sometimes, facts tend to get in the way of “reality”.

SouthernGent

March 6th, 2013
8:48 am

It appears he might be flip flopping. Hey Jay, why don’t you highlight how many times Obama has flipped and flopped? What, don’t have enough column space to handle it?

Stevie Ray

March 6th, 2013
8:50 am

GT

March 6th, 2013
8:38 am

Milliken and some (Ryobi who made craftsman tools) manufacturers abandoned SC fro various reasons. The most important reason being the need to compete globally…second, particularly in the case of Millken is technology advancements that make the process less labor intensive.

The GM plants were lost due to global competition and a poor product. Since then, once again technology and need to compete globally prime culprits..

In all cases, business reasons, not being a profit forgiving corporate good citizen drives these decisions…IMO

Please don’t bring up Strom Thurman’s name again…he is the last of the bogus racists in congress and spoke volumes for the sad state of affairs there….

stands for decibels

March 6th, 2013
8:51 am

But not surprising coming from a good liberal from the “Empire” state.

heh. you had to travel a good ways to make that point, but I enjoyed the ride!

williebkind

March 6th, 2013
8:51 am

I sure would like to know what have the democratic leaders and their avid followers done in the last four years to make this country great except greatly in debt. They spew their garbage about the GOP and demonize GOP leaders but their’s have no answers that will keep this country from indebting its grandchildren. But you go to love how eloquent they express their bullsh*t.

Their elected leader took an oath and has violated it every day! What say you truth sayers on the left? Please show your education and ability to write as if you were a Harvard graduate please.

Stevie Ray

March 6th, 2013
8:52 am

What do you suppose Sean Penn is going to do now that his BFF is wormfood?

GT

March 6th, 2013
8:52 am

Ask the farmer in South Georgia how he is going to compete without illegal labor. He is not, he will tell you. There is daylight between the right fanatics and South Georgia because of this issue. Other state with less zealous more level headed leadership will have the extreme advantage of cheap labor and their agriculture like everything else in this country will surpass Georgia. How long you think South Georgia is going to stick with these fanatics as their crops rot in the field? It is almost comical if it were not so tragic, how much of a beating the citizens of this state take running with the right wing pack.

Mick

March 6th, 2013
8:52 am

yaker

The difference is that the cubans get to stay here legally and….sign right up for all those freebies that the conned are always wailing about 24/7…

Paul

March 6th, 2013
8:52 am

Off topic, but it’s morning, so what isn’t?:

SecState Kerry on Dennis Rodman’s trip to North Korea:

“Dennis Rodman was a great basketball player. And as a diplomat, he is a great basketball player. And that’s where we’ll leave it.”

Granny Godzilla

March 6th, 2013
8:53 am

Stevie Ray

March 6th, 2013
8:45 am

Granny Godzilla

March 6th, 2013
8:03 am

I can tell you that it is with great honor that I maintain the maturity of a 15 year old.
.
.
.
Good for you. I like a man with a wee bit of whimsey.

Never dull.

stands for decibels

March 6th, 2013
8:53 am

(See where I differ from liberals?)

“But now I’m much older and wiser
And that’s why I’m turning you in…”

stands for decibels

March 6th, 2013
8:55 am

sorry, it’s “But I’ve grown older and wiser/and that’s why I’m turning you in.” my bad.

Sorry Phil, wherever you are now…

Bosch

March 6th, 2013
8:55 am

While I agree that Jeb is the smartest of his siblings, he will never be POTUS, one because of his brother, and two because of Terry Schiavo.

And on another completely other note, why do cons go on about Obama being a tyrant or royal wannabe when their side has the team players signing pledges to a man who has never run for office, holds no accountability to voters and keeps touting failed ideology?

Why not put Grover on the ballot and he can put his money where his mouth is?

TaxPayer

March 6th, 2013
8:57 am

Stevie Ray

March 6th, 2013
8:57 am

Keep Up the Good Fight!

March 6th, 2013
8:47 am

Don’t knock it now…from what I see daily, I think it gives me an advantage over those of age appropriate maturity. I don’t take myself seriously and the simple pleasures in life remain fulfilling…such as the fart game, belching contests, and spitballs… I think my development was arrested when I began love affair with math….

Jackie

March 6th, 2013
9:00 am

There is evidence that the immigration policy is not about immigrant farm labor totals but about further suppressing the labor costs of those farm laborers.

http://www.cnbc.com/id/50016592/What_the_Invisible_Farm_Labor_Shortage_Is_Really_About

Paul

March 6th, 2013
9:01 am

Bosch

Because cons can see Obama and they can direct all their angst at him.

But Grover’s the man behind the curtain, a great, unseen force they can’t see (remember, Oz is opening this weekend) or comprehend, so they think everything that happens is…. magic!

Paul

March 6th, 2013
9:03 am

TaxPayer

Hence a certain blogger’s compulsive writing about how militias are the real reason the second amendment came to be –

Even though, as Scalia’s said, that reason is largely irrelevant now and has nothing to do with current gun law.

Bosch

March 6th, 2013
9:04 am

Hey Paul!

Yeah, all that, but never a word about this pledge of failed thinking, treating the economy like its a frat party. Weird huh?

barking frog

March 6th, 2013
9:04 am

Paul
“Dennis Rodman was a great basketball player. And as a diplomat, he is a great basketball player. And that’s where we’ll leave it.”
………………………………………………………………………………………………….
I remember when Rodman appeared on the Tonight Show wearing a
white dress, full makeup, and white high heels. My first reaction was
“that ignorant s.o.b.” but then I listened and surveyed the statement
he was making. His outfit protested professional sports, feminism,
big man on campus tradition, anti gay and transgender discrimination,
black discrimination and shouted freedom to do whatever the hell I
want. I have been an admirer since then. John Kerry might wait until
he comes back with an invitation from the NK leader to the President
for a phone call before he criticizes too much.

GT

March 6th, 2013
9:05 am

“technology advancements that make the process less labor intensive” then why not stay here? They left because you can pick cotton for slave wages in other parts of the world. You can bring it to the market cheaper even half way around the world.

Cars were made cheaper and better in Japan because labor was cheaper and the worker there is far more educated than the average worker in the US. Obama saved this industry, someone probably could have saved the textile industry, but what Republican has every thought out of the box?

And Strom, who we don’t mention, was the father of the Democrat jumping the fence to a more receptive party for bigotry, as long as you can deliver the votes. The Southern Strategy came right out of South Carolina; Nixon’s wingman was Harold Dent a South Carolina citizen and aide to Strom Thurman. Your whole party today is made up of George Wallace, Lester Maddox and Strom Thurman types.

Joe Hussein Mama

March 6th, 2013
9:06 am

Josef — “JHM And you’re another one…so, there…”

As I said, shrug.

“JHM Oh, I concede to you on that count…I know when I can’t compete…”

For someone who claims to be unable to compete, you’ve certainly been heaping the scorn and obloquy on me lately. Just FYI, you needn’t feel threatened or inadequate because someone else has seen, done, experienced and accomplished a lot in their life, just as you have. Wisdom, knowledge and experience aren’t limited quantities, and neither of us has a corner on those particular markets.

Mick

March 6th, 2013
9:09 am

frog

I halfway agree with you…what’s wrong with trying to communicate with the new tyrant? Rodman at least had some dialogue and thats a good thing. As I recall, ping pong is what opened up china…

Welcome to the Occupation

March 6th, 2013
9:10 am

barking frog, Paul: “Dennis Rodman was a great basketball player. And as a diplomat, he is a great basketball player. And that’s where we’ll leave it.”

Which one is almost tempted to modify slightly to read:

Dennis Rodman John Kerry was once a great basketball player anti-war protester. And as a diplomat, he is a great basketball player former anti-war protester. And that’s where we’ll leave it.

Jackie

March 6th, 2013
9:11 am

@GT

Please, don’t forget the master of racial politics, Lee Atwater.

http://crooksandliars.com/david-neiwert/uncovered-last-lee-atwaters-infamous

barking frog

March 6th, 2013
9:13 am

Mick
yes, I remember when Kerry was a protester too. Rodman
deserves more than a surface scan, and I think the President
should make the call with Rodman in the Oval Office. See what
the guy has to say.

TaxPayer

March 6th, 2013
9:14 am

It’s a good thing those “Patriots” only hate Obama because he’s a socialist and not because he’s black because that would make those “Patriots” so much more that just “Patriots”.

barking frog

March 6th, 2013
9:16 am

Mick
and I would have Rodman wear his dress, couldn’t be
any sillier than Mitt in his magic panties…

They call me MISTER JamVet.

March 6th, 2013
9:16 am

10 years later, Dixie Chicks right all along.

It didn’t matter that the evidence to invade Iraq was questionable or that Maines later apologized. The damage was done, and one of the most popular acts in the country became its most hated. Its music was banned from radio, CDs were trashed by bulldozers, and one band member’s home was vandalized. Maines introduced “Soldier” with a call for peace, but she would soon find that the group needed metal detectors installed at entrances to shows on its stateside tour because of death threats.

It was a classic case of freedom of speech meeting the irrational repercussions of that speech.

If anything, Maines and company should be viewed as prophets, not pariahs, considering that the weapons of mass destruction the Bush administration led the country to believe Saddam Hussein was housing were never found. Or that since 2006, the majority of Americans have felt the invasion was a mistake to begin with.

Not the Dixie Chicks…

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OGPD0ZBiMs0

appleseed

March 6th, 2013
9:17 am

Recon throwing it out hoping it will stick.Recon when you are saying the democrats have done nothing for the blacks.Please list what the republicans have done for the blacks.

getalife

March 6th, 2013
9:19 am

The key to North Korea opening the free market like China and South Korea is Michael Jordon.

They love him.

barking frog

March 6th, 2013
9:20 am

appleseed
Please list what the republicans have done for the blacks.
……………………………………………………………………….
they helped elect Obama, twice.

Doggone/GA

March 6th, 2013
9:20 am

“.Please list what the republicans have done for the blacks.”

Pointless request. Abraham Lincoln was a Republican. The parties have pretty much switched sides on the issues. It’s not really a question of “Democrats vs Republicans”…it’s more a matter of conservatives vs liberals

barking frog

March 6th, 2013
9:21 am

getalife
maybe the President can field a basketball diplomatic team.

Paul

March 6th, 2013
9:23 am

barking frog

I understand that, but I believe the leadup to Kerry’s statement was Rodman’s response after he was asked about his gushing comments in light of the human rights atrocities of N Korea’s leader and his response of ‘don’t hate on me.’

He makes some valid points in the domestic scene, but I think he’s in a bit over his head in the other arena. But if some good comes out of that, it should not be discounted. But I don’t think Obama’s going to call, and I don’t think it ever occurs to Kim that he should be the one doing the calling.

Brosephus™ - Comin' straight out of Compton

March 6th, 2013
9:23 am

Pointless request. Abraham Lincoln was a Republican. The parties have pretty much switched sides on the issues. It’s not really a question of “Democrats vs Republicans”…it’s more a matter of conservatives vs liberals

Yep!!!

barking frog

March 6th, 2013
9:23 am

Abraham Lincoln was a Republican
………………………………………………….
Only in his first term. Second term he ran on the Union ticket.

Doggone/GA

March 6th, 2013
9:24 am

“Only in his first term. Second term he ran on the Union ticket.”

Doesn’t change anything about what I said

Joe Hussein Mama

March 6th, 2013
9:25 am

K71 — ““What other minority group gets into this country just by making it to dry land?”…… About 20M latinos.”

Please refrain from dipspittery while the blog is in motion. :roll:

You know very well the issue there, K71. Cubans who make it to dry land here can stay LEGALLY. Other Hispanics cannot.

Oh, but you knew that already, since I’ve told you so several times. :roll:

getalife

March 6th, 2013
9:25 am

frog,

I am thinking more like Nike since they make basketball shoes with Jordon.

Paul

March 6th, 2013
9:26 am

Welcome to the Occupation

Why do you think people should not have protested against American involvement in Vietnam?

QE 4 EVAH?

March 6th, 2013
9:26 am

Immigration flip-flops expose Obama’s insincerity

Bookman prefers Obama’s flop to Bush’s flip.

Nothing new here.

Paul

March 6th, 2013
9:27 am

getalife

There’s an idea for a person who will keep the spotlight elsewhere. As Mick said, if ping pong can gain results…

Thomas Heyward Jr

March 6th, 2013
9:28 am

Goldmen/Government Saches just sent Dennis Rodman and the effing HARLEM GLOBETROTTERS to Korea for some vig squezzings.
.
And you can bet………those North Korean men are working harder this morning……….what..with their pregnant wives.

barking frog

March 6th, 2013
9:28 am

Paul
But I don’t think Obama’s going to call, and I don’t think it ever occurs to Kim that he should be the one doing the calling
……………………………………………………………………
well we certainly want to continue our stance until that occurs and Kerry
can just answer the phone from all our allies..

MiltonMan

March 6th, 2013
9:30 am

“Requiescat in pacem, Mr. Chavez. You earned a piece of my heart when you called Mr. Bush the devil.”

Indeed.”

Leave it up to libs in this country to celebrate a corrupt socialist comparing the freely elected leader of America to the devil.

Joe Hussein Mama

March 6th, 2013
9:32 am

MM — “Leave it up to libs in this country to celebrate a corrupt socialist comparing the freely elected leader of America to the devil.”

As many names as you and your ideological compatriots call the *current* freely elected leader of America, you’ve got no complaint coming when someone slags on your favored former CINC, son.

barking frog

March 6th, 2013
9:33 am

Thomas Heyward Jr.
And you can bet………those North Korean men are working harder this morning……….what..with their pregnant wives.
………………………………………………………..
Maybe their babies will grow up to be cowboys uhh basketball
players, Koreans may be more liberal in accepting contributions
to the gene pool than we realize…

GT

March 6th, 2013
9:33 am

Jackie I actually met Lee Atwater living in Columbia S.C. He was running the Ford Reelection campaign and my job was renting him temporary office space in the Five Points Building on Devine Street.

He kept a Bible never took the cellophane off, never open the cover. The power he saw in that Bible was it got votes. He shared that office suite with Strom Thurman and Harold Dent along with Congressman Floyd and a few others. The governor in those days was a Republican which in the south was nearly unheard of, named Edwards. The same South Carolina that started the civil war started the Tea Party right there in those offices. Atwater went on to run Bush’ Sr’s campaign and taught W during his dad’s campaign about all he knows today about politics. The rest is history.

Finn McCool (The System isn't Broken; It's Fixed)

March 6th, 2013
9:34 am

the freely elected leader of America

well, that’s still in debate.

appleseed

March 6th, 2013
9:35 am

You know what Rodman will say” Guess what.”

Paul

March 6th, 2013
9:35 am

barking frog

A call from the President of the US carries with it quite a bit of prestige and is useful for domestic propaganda purposes. One of our main interests is not furthering N Korea’s internal and international policies. But if N Korea would respond more positively to contacts at the lower levels of the State Dept some discussions could ensue.

off to the gym – later -

Steve-USA (I don't have all the answer's, I don't even know all the questions)

March 6th, 2013
9:36 am

“As many names as you and your ideological compatriots call the *current* freely elected leader of America, you’ve got no complaint coming when someone slags on your favored former CINC, son.”

Ah…the old “We”e no worse than you are” argument. To bad no one strives to be the highest common denominator instead of the lowest.

MiltonMan

March 6th, 2013
9:37 am

“the freely elected leader of America

well, that’s still in debate.”

Maybe in your opinion it is. The SCOTUS, CNN, LA Times, Washington Times & Post, etc., etc. have all determined that Bush won Florida count after re-count.

Steve-USA (I don't have all the answer's, I don't even know all the questions)

March 6th, 2013
9:37 am

We’re – keyboard error ;)

MiltonMan

March 6th, 2013
9:39 am

“As many names as you and your ideological compatriots call the *current* freely elected leader of America, you’ve got no complaint coming when someone slags on your favored former CINC, son.”

Please, oh please, pull up just one of my thousands of post where I stated Bush was a “favored one” of mine.

Jackie

March 6th, 2013
9:39 am

@GT

I was living in Columbia at the time and had the pleasure of meeting Lee Atwater at Groucho’s in Five Points.

He and Armstrong Williams were in collaboration in trying to get the blacks to vote Republican. The one thing that I can say for Mr. Atwater was that he was a heck of a guitar player. Saw him several times in concert at The Royal Casino with the Manhattans.

Columbia was interesting in that it had political personalities like Kay Patterson, Red Fern II and I.S. Levy Johnson.

stands for decibels

March 6th, 2013
9:40 am

Another one to add to the “Awsh-t, now THIS?” pile:

http://crooksandliars.com/karoli/murdoch-and-co-roll-out-creepy-k-12

Murdoch and Co. Roll Out Creepy K-12 Tracking Database at #SXSW

[...] Parents are pretty creeped out over the idea of tracking their kids’ school performance over their K-12 educational careers. I have some ambivalence about the whole idea, but it’s a non-starter for me when I see how they’ve structured it, and particularly knowing Rupert Murdoch is involved.

[...]

What protections will there be for student privacy? And who’s going to pay for this? Taxpayers, of course. As the budget for data mining grows and Murdoch’s pockets bulge, will there be any money left for teachers?

Normal, Plain and Simple

March 6th, 2013
9:40 am

Welcome @ 0825,

First of all I have no thoughts about Chavez other than what I said. Latin American governments are mostly run by “Strongmen” who say one thing but do the other, especially when it comes to lining their pockets. I want to believe that Chavez really did want to do the best for his people and in a lot of ways he did…but he was elected the first time and he fixed the rest of the elections he won. As I said, he was weak enough to be seduced by power. As to anything else about Venezuela and President Chavez…that’s all up to them.

stands for decibels

March 6th, 2013
9:42 am

To bad no one strives to be the highest common denominator instead

How about those of us from the left who have taken issue with Chavez’s behavior, here on these pages? What are we, chopped liver?

Joe Hussein Mama

March 6th, 2013
9:42 am

Steve — “Ah…the old “We”e no worse than you are” argument.”

Actually, no. MM was complaining that *Chavez* slagged on Bush. Chavez is hardly any sort of ‘we.’ But do keep looking for equivalencies there; it amuses me.

“To bad no one strives to be the highest common denominator instead of the lowest.”

I do.

I don’t care one whit for President Bush (the younger), but you’ll never catch me calling him a name. I make it a point to call him President Bush, Mr. Bush, G.W. Bush, and occasionally Bush the Younger (but that’s as colloquial as I get about him).

If you’re looking for a highest common denominator when it comes to speaking of former and current Presidents, I’ll certainly claim that honor myself.

Doggone/GA

March 6th, 2013
9:42 am

We’re – keyboard error

PEBCAK?

They call me MISTER JamVet.

March 6th, 2013
9:42 am

Recon when you are saying the democrats have done nothing for the blacks.Please list what the republicans have done for the blacks.

I too, would like to see this list.

GT

March 6th, 2013
9:43 am

The power of negative thinking. Expect the worse and when that is interrupted it is a good day for you, but don’t expect good things to be a pattern.

Describe your opponents as evil. Then by default you must be good.

TaxPayer

March 6th, 2013
9:43 am

I recall Bush being quick to label an axis of evil and reference Gog and Magog, etc., yet when another country’s leader throws it back in his face, the cons get their panties in a wad. Too funny. :lol:

BADA BING (imagine an umlaut above the i, I'm trying to class this place up a little)

March 6th, 2013
9:45 am

Jay, could we please have a pie chart showing just how dead Chavez is. Lots o’ colors please.

Joe Hussein Mama

March 6th, 2013
9:46 am

MM — “Please, oh please, pull up just one of my thousands of post where I stated Bush was a “favored one” of mine.”

I used “your” in reference to the previously stated “your ideological compatriots,” and I’m sorry that wasn’t clear to you. If you like, I can certainly strive to be more explicit for you in the future.

Bosch

March 6th, 2013
9:46 am

Doggone,

You have hit on an interesting idea, and one that I’ve always thought defines the two groups. If you look at general definitions of conservative and liberal, they are very revealing and I think relevant still today. The idea that conservatives, by definition, don’t like change, is demonstrated by the notion that Republucans freed the slaves. While that is true and all good, it isn’t 1865. Things have changed a bit since then. Our world changes exponentially so quickly and conservatives, IMHO, are terrible at adapting to change. I think it’s mostly out of fear that those changes don’t include the people who look like them or think like them as being the most powerful.

It is also demonstrated in mottos such as “I want my country back!” and the paranoia you see when white Christian men think they are somehow persecuted.

They want the country ran like a business, but fail to understand that effective, successful businesses adapt to change, they know what works and what does not and base those changes on reality and facts, not on myths and their own perceptions.

I’m not saying that all change is good either, but in a world where the entire landscape can change in 100 years with the invention of the automobile and airplane, and technology changes so quickly each day, it’s the ones who can look at that change and move forward instead of relishing times past they think we’re good, who will succeed in the future.

barking frog

March 6th, 2013
9:47 am

BadaBing
Jay, could we please have a pie chart showing just how dead Chavez is. Lots o’ colors please.
…………………………………………………………………..
probably searching the intertubes for one now…

Joe Hussein Mama

March 6th, 2013
9:48 am

OHNOEZ! :eek:

Emphasis mine.

In case you thought the Australian miners that got canned for their Harlem Shake video were this week’s best “How I got fired” story, don’t forget about the unlucky guys working the night shift last Tuesday at Chivas Brothers’ Kilmalid plant.

Apparently, workers that evening were cleaning and spraying down equipment. But, as the waste water built up, someone reached for the wrong lever and instead of dumping the runoff into the sewers, they ejected thousands of gallons of bulk whiskey down the drain.

http://blogs.ajc.com/food-and-more/2013/03/05/thousands-of-gallons-of-scotch-accidentally-flushed/?cxntfid=blogs_food_and_more

godless heathen - owner of many things he does not need

March 6th, 2013
9:49 am

Doggone/GA

March 6th, 2013
9:50 am

Bosch – can’t remember when or where I read it, or who wrote it…but “Conservatives exist to slow down progression”

Note that it says “slow down” not STOP. I think the problem we have right now is that the Republican party is too busy becoming not just the party of stop, but the party of “go back” that they are becoming less and less capable of seeing that it can’t be done.

Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes

March 6th, 2013
9:51 am

Jerome

If you’re lurking about. Tough loss by your evil Red Devils yesterday. A bit of irony that pretty boy (a former Red Devil) put Madrid through to the next round. A match-up between those two clubs would have been better in a later round.

Joe Hussein Mama

March 6th, 2013
9:52 am

TaxPayer — “I recall Bush being quick to label an axis of evil and reference Gog and Magog, etc., yet when another country’s leader throws it back in his face, the cons get their panties in a wad. Too funny.”

An excellent observation of the phenomenon of American Exceptionalism.

I read something some months ago that the Chinese have begun referring to those holding the view of American Exceptionalism as “magistrates.” The writer (and I wish I could find the piece I read; I don’t think I bookmarked it) stated that historically, Chinese magistrates or judges have had a very condescending ‘do as I say, not as I do’ attitude toward the citizenry, and that US exceptionalism is viewed as another instance of the same thing by many Chinese.

Steve-USA (I don't have all the answer's, I don't even know all the questions)

March 6th, 2013
9:52 am

Stands – I always admit when I am wrong. Clearly I used a broad brush.

How about: “To bad more people don’t strive to be the highest common denominator instead”

Doggone – PEBCAK? Yes!

Normal, Plain and Simple

March 6th, 2013
9:53 am

Welcome,

As a matter of fact, I spent nearly three tours in Viet Nam. I was hit in my third and sent home early. But when I got out, I Joined the Viet Nam Veterans Against The War Organization and participated in demonstrations all over the country culminating with the GOP Miami Conference in ‘72. A motorcycle wreak and the aggravation of old wounds put a stop to that. I then re-joined the Navy in ‘75 and served my country until ‘91.

How could that be? Well, I was able to separate the unholiness of that war from my love for my country. It, like Iraq, was a war that never should have been fought. If we had refused to give ‘Nam back to the French in ‘46, and let Viet Nam govern itself, there would have been no war…but the myth of the “domino Theory” prevailed at the time.

I also believed, “My country, love it when it’s right, and change it when it’s wrong.”

But nothing was remembered and Iraq happened. History does repeat itself, it seems…

Mick

March 6th, 2013
9:53 am

milton

Don’t forget that jeb bush had katherine harris scrub over 60k eligible african american voters from the polls. Wonder who they wouldve voted for???

Normal, Plain and Simple

March 6th, 2013
9:56 am

larry

March 6th, 2013
9:56 am

NO MORE BUSHES!!! PLEASE, FOR GOD’S SAKE.

barking frog

March 6th, 2013
9:57 am

everyone in politics wants change which is liberal. I don’t
think anyone wants things to remain the same…

Bosch

March 6th, 2013
9:57 am

Doggone,

Yeah, and I feel the hatred we see with Obama, is not necessarily the person, the man, but the idea if him. His name, his looks, etc. I’ve heard him say in an interview that all the hatred he reads directed towards him, he doesn’t take personally because he understands it isn’t about him, it’s just the idea of him.

appleseed

March 6th, 2013
9:57 am

You see it every day.People on here same as Chavez.Their only way to present themself,to call others names.In this case mostly the president,his wife,the vp or the party.I suppose it gets attention,and makes their day.

Joe Hussein Mama

March 6th, 2013
9:58 am

Steve — ” I always admit when I am wrong. Clearly I used a broad brush.”

No worries, sir. :)

“How about: “To bad more people don’t strive to be the highest common denominator instead”

I think that’s reasonable.

FWIW, I think it’s a lot harder to slag on a President when you’re referring to him in formal fashion, but that snarky and nasty names just lend themselves to unreasonable criticism. I’m not saying that Presidents should be immune to criticism, but IMO that speaking of them politely *tends* to make one *criticize* more politely.

GT

March 6th, 2013
10:01 am

Jackie Lee would play in that little bar on Devine Street right across from the Five Points Building. Down the hill was Five points.

I would see Hootie Johnson, Alex Hawkins, Bobby Cremins and lots of others in there when he played. I always felt that was one of those Forrest Gump moments when earth shaking things were going on that only years later you could appreciate.

The church is one thing the blacks and the poor whites had in common in the south. Northern politicians didn’t understand that about the region, one of the reasons the Republicans, until Atwater, didn’t win here. As much as these people hated each other they were both were controlled by the church. If you could control the preachers , you could control the vote in the south and they voted as a block with the old confederacy.

barking frog

March 6th, 2013
10:02 am

the freedom to say what we want about the President as
long as we don’t threaten may be unique in all the world.
we should savor it.

Brosephus™ - Comin' straight out of Compton

March 6th, 2013
10:04 am

Bosch

Your 9:46 post and Doggone’s response sheds lots of light onto things that most people don’t realize or choose not to see.

Welcome to the Occupation

March 6th, 2013
10:05 am

Normal : ” I want to believe that Chavez really did want to do the best for his people and in a lot of ways he did…but he was elected the first time and he fixed the rest of the elections he won. ”

No he didn’t. What’s your evidence for that?

The elections were overseen and judged to be perfectly fair (something that can’t even necessarily be said for our own any more).

QE 4 EVAH?

March 6th, 2013
10:06 am

Recon when you are saying the democrats have done nothing for the blacks.Please list what the republicans have done for the blacks.

The GOP promotes individualism not cashing in on your “groupons.”

Amid such rancor, African-Americans might come to realize that the idea of having any politician as a role model is incompatible with accountability, the central tenet of representative democracy. By definition, role models are placed on pedestals and emulated, not criticized or held accountable.

To place policy above rhetoric is not to ask what the first black president is doing for blacks; rather, it is to ask what a Democratic president is doing for the most loyal Democratic constituency — who happen to be African-Americans, and who happen to be in dire need of help. Sadly, when it comes to the Obama presidency and black America, symbols and substance have too often been assumed to be one and the same.

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/10/28/opinion/sunday/the-price-of-a-black-president.html?ref=todayspaper&pagewanted=all&_r=0

Blacks should stand and deliver not wait for deliverance.

Brosephus™ - Comin' straight out of Compton

March 6th, 2013
10:06 am

Gotta throw out a bit of red meat for the “wealth envy” crowd. Here’s a video that attempts to explain the wealth inequality in America based on research that’s been done. As low key as the video is, I’m surprised it has amost 3 million hits since it was posted last November.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QPKKQnijnsM

Doggone/GA

March 6th, 2013
10:07 am

“all the hatred he reads directed towards him, he doesn’t take personally because he understands it isn’t about him, it’s just the idea of him.”

Smart man. Life is too short to agonize over what cannot be changed. The best we can hope for sometimes is that those kinds of people will have an epiphany some day. And some of them do.

Steve-USA (I don't have all the answer's, I don't even know all the questions)

March 6th, 2013
10:08 am

barking frog – “the freedom to say what we want about the President as long as we don’t threaten may be unique in all the world. we should savor it.”

Stating a negative opinion with some reasons you feel that way is one thing but the negative nicknames like “Obummer” is just laziness and doesn’t really advance ones cause.

JMHO

Jackie

March 6th, 2013
10:08 am

@GT

We seem to have many things in common.
Nate Davis, Alex English, Kevin Joyce, John Roche, Tommy Boswell, George Rogers and Willie Alexander, George Glymph and others from S.C. State and Howard White were all in the area playing softball or basketball in the Fast League at Forest Lakes,

Normal, Plain and Simple

March 6th, 2013
10:09 am

Welcome to the Occupation

March 6th, 2013
10:05 am

What is your evidence that he didn’t influence the elections? We all know that “monitored” elections are not fool proof.

0311/8541/5811/1811/1801

March 6th, 2013
10:09 am

Hey Jay !

Here’s your chance !!!

Headline (AJC): “Wanted: Six new DeKalb School Board members”

“Since last week, more than 150 applications have poured in. Application deadline is today.”

Doggone/GA

March 6th, 2013
10:11 am

Bro – “sheds lots of light onto things that most people don’t realize or choose not to see.”

Thanks, and yes that’s the biggest part of the problem. Especially those who choose not to see.

GT

March 6th, 2013
10:13 am

Great fun living there.

Normal, Plain and Simple

March 6th, 2013
10:13 am

COMMON,

Here’s one side of the argument…

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6rTyjgKjlRc

Bosch

March 6th, 2013
10:14 am

Brosephus,

I think we can learn a lot by looking at traditional definitions, like the idea of a Republic, the people are represented by leaders elected by them gives way to the idea of there are those who are the elite, the “wise ones” who can lead, rule, hence “Republicans” – vs. a democracy, where all are equal, involved, participate in the governing, thus we are all equal or “Democrats.”

Also just the traditional definitions of conservative vs. liberal. Conservatives don’t like change, while liberals want it, and sometimes those roles change. The trick is learning when and how to change and adapt and use it for the greater good, plus base those changes not on emotion, or perceived injustice, but facts.

Doggone/GA

March 6th, 2013
10:18 am

“Also just the traditional definitions of conservative vs. liberal. Conservatives don’t like change, while liberals want it, and sometimes those roles change”

I don’t agree. Sometimes the PEOPLE change roles, but the roles stay the same.

barking frog

March 6th, 2013
10:18 am

Steve-USA
Stating a negative opinion with some reasons you feel that way is one thing but the negative nicknames like “Obummer” is just laziness and doesn’t really advance ones cause.
………………………………………………………………………
freedom of speech will always advance one’s cause….

Jackie

March 6th, 2013
10:18 am

@GT

I still go back to visit friends in the area.

Regnad Kcin

March 6th, 2013
10:18 am

“What is your evidence that he didn’t…”

NPS – you’re too smart to ask someone to prove a negative, aren’t you?

Bosch

March 6th, 2013
10:21 am

Doggone, yes, I agree, and I think the GOP counts on basing policy and legislation on emotion and their own narrow views of what is right for all. Their biggest flaw being that what is right for one, isn’t right for all.

I also think a lot of that has to do with the fact that many GOPers are fundamentally religious. They are so ingrained with their own ideas of right, wrong, and there is no room for maybes. It’s all absolute based, with no room for diversity.

barking frog

March 6th, 2013
10:22 am

Brosephus
your video should be required to be played at the beginning of
every session of Congress and Presidential press conference.

0311/8541/5811/1811/1801

March 6th, 2013
10:23 am

“Leaked email from Agriculture Department field officer on impact of budget cuts adds fuel to claims Obama is playing politics by making cuts as painful as possible to win public opinion battle against Republicans.”

Welcome to the Occupation

March 6th, 2013
10:24 am

Normal: “What is your evidence that he didn’t influence the elections? We all know that “monitored” elections are not fool proof.”

Ah, NOW I see.

From the perspective of empire, the burden of proof is always on the other side, never on the side of the empire’s own back yard which is taken naturally as an expression of mature, healthy democracy at work without ever having to prove its own mettle or justify itself.

I gotcha!

Bosch

March 6th, 2013
10:24 am

Doggone @ 10:18- yeah, that’s a better way to look at it. :)

Doggone/GA

March 6th, 2013
10:25 am

Bosch – in general, I agree. But I think right now, in this time and place, the biggest problem with the Republicans is embodied in “THEY are too stupid to understand our message”

Unless, or until, they come to realize that “THEY” are too SMART to understand their message..they’re going to be in a perpetual state of trying to find weird explanations for what is actually pretty damn obvious.

williebkind

March 6th, 2013
10:25 am

Well POTUS released approximately 5000 illegals into our society. The exact number is not know because every request for information has been delayed or denied. The educated guess of how many illegals in the US rounds out to about 12million. The last argument was that it was impractical to deport that many so the emphasis was to seek out and lock up those with criminal backgroud and behavior. The best estimates that this group could be as many as 34000. Well the King made another decree and now using the sequestration as a reason fill our neighborhoods with criminals. Yep you democrats are doing a great job. I hope “Brosephus™ – Comin’ straight out of Compton”, “stands for decibels” and Jamvet do not get their possessions stolen or their children raped, and especially have one become intoxicated and ram into their new car. It would be really sad….hehe.

Keep Up the Good Fight!

March 6th, 2013
10:28 am

Gawd forbid that Obama “play politics” with the sequester cuts…. why the Republicans would never do that and certainly they are not in their proposals. :lol: :lol:

How silly but not surprising given the poster

Keep Up the Good Fight!

March 6th, 2013
10:30 am

I hope “Brosephus™ – Comin’ straight out of Compton”, “stands for decibels” and Jamvet do not get their possessions stolen or their children raped,

Over the top and pure stupidity willie.

Bosch

March 6th, 2013
10:30 am

Doggone,

I think we are basically saying the same thing ;) you are just better at it.

That goes back to what I wrote about Republicans and the idea that there are people who are meant to lead-”we know what we are doing, it works on paper, it’s just that those darn other people and reality get in our way!” :)

stands for decibels

March 6th, 2013
10:32 am

a[l]most 3 million hits since it was posted last November.

appears to have gone quite viral of late. I saw it over at Digby’s earlier this week, and then I saw Rachel Maddow using those same graphics to illustrate a point last night.

Granny Godzilla

March 6th, 2013
10:35 am

williebkind

are they all heading for your house or are they under alternate, less expensive methods of
being surveilance?

why do you support wasteful spending?

stands for decibels

March 6th, 2013
10:37 am

Well POTUS released approximately 5000 illegals into our society. The exact number is not know

What is “know” is that President Uppity personally unlocked the gate and let these animals out, saying “you FREE now, muthufukkuhz!”

be afraid!

Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes

March 6th, 2013
10:37 am

Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes

March 6th, 2013
10:39 am

Well POTUS released approximately 5000 illegals into our society. The exact number is not know because every request for information has been delayed or denied. The educated guess of how many illegals in the US rounds out to about 12million.

Ronald Reagan’s 1986 amnesty says, “What?”

Joe Hussein Mama

March 6th, 2013
10:39 am

williebkind — “The best estimates that this group could be as many as 34000.”

They can smell fear, you know. (giggling) :D

Oscar

March 6th, 2013
10:40 am

Good morning. See that everything is normal here. Not much new to comment on.
Did Chavez influence elections. Probably didn’t need to. Don’t see any proof.

Sequester. Xuts have to hurt. President playing politics. Comared to what the GOP has been doing, small potatoes.

Freedomof spech. Yes, but at your on risk. There are limitations and also good tste and obligation to treat others with respect. The right to be treated with respect is one of those rights in the ninth, or is it tenth amendment reserved by the people.

stands for decibels

March 6th, 2013
10:41 am

Sequester. Xuts have to hurt

When you think about it, we didn’t really need the letter that sounds like “see”, anyway.

zeke

March 6th, 2013
10:43 am

Oscar

March 6th, 2013
10:45 am

Sorry for thpoor typing. Still having trouble using my laptop.

When I saw the typo, I thought it meant Nuts have to hurt at first. Cuts hurt also.

Normal, Plain and Simple

March 6th, 2013
10:45 am

COMMON,

I offered another opinion at 1013…

[...] Stance Spotlights Republican Border RiftBloombergThe Guardian -Huffington Post -Atlanta Journal Constitution (blog)all 243 news [...]

stands for decibels

March 6th, 2013
10:46 am

But Kamchak, that story out of Philadelphia, it can’t be right, everyone knows that OWSers are violent rapey rapists (dead Brietbart sez so!) who routinely poop on the po-po.

Oscar

March 6th, 2013
10:48 am

Forgot to comment on illegals. So what do you want to do with 12 or 34 million illegals. Send them bak to Enland and Germany where they came from. Con’t think we have the power to do that, will have to live wth the white eyes.
Sitting Bull

Oscar

March 6th, 2013
10:52 am

Stands = don’t think owlers commit legimate rapes. Illegals and minorities do that.

Oscar

March 6th, 2013
10:53 am

Zeke – Goof to see another American Indian on the board.

williebkind

March 6th, 2013
10:54 am

“Over the top and pure stupidity willie.”

Yeah, until you kid gets raped or hurt by a criminal then it becomes a GOP problem right.

Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes

March 6th, 2013
10:56 am

dB

What chaps my ass most about that story is they were protesting my bank. I opened that account with The First National Bank of Atlanta (anyone here remember Tillie the all-time teller?), not Wells Fargo.

One day in the not so distant future, all of us will have an account at one institution — THE BANK.

Keep Up the Good Fight!

March 6th, 2013
10:56 am

No Willie,. Low risk detainees were released. You desire to wish harm on the families of other poster is disgusting as are the stupidity of your claims.

Oscar

March 6th, 2013
10:57 am

Bosch – Diversity is not allowed by conservatives. That’s why they are called conservatives. Opposed to any change or deviation from the established norm.

williebkind

March 6th, 2013
10:57 am

Name one thing Obama has done for our country and not for his special interest or little pathetic groups?

Brosephus™ - Comin' straight out of Compton

March 6th, 2013
10:57 am

frog

I thought that video was well done. Kinda dry because it’s fact only, but that’s the way some things need to be reported in order for people to get a true understanding of what the truth is as opposed to listening to these carnival barkers masquerading as media minds.

————–

I hope “Brosephus™ – Comin’ straight out of Compton”, “stands for decibels” and Jamvet do not get their possessions stolen or their children raped, and especially have one become intoxicated and ram into their new car. It would be really sad….hehe.

And we have the Grand Marshal of the Disney Electric A$$hat Parade making his grand entrance. Quit begging for attention from me. I’m not into you at all. :roll:

They call me MISTER JamVet.

March 6th, 2013
10:58 am

The Republicans have wasted six years and set themselves by at least that much vis a vis the illegal immigration issue.

One of the exceedingly few things that W got marginally right, in my estimation, was his proposed Comprehensive Immigration Reform Act of 2007.

But the round ‘em up far right wingers (Sensenbrenner, Hastert, Tancredo) went berserk over it. As in slobbering berserk. And the truth be told, the Republican-lites across the aisle were not that much better.

Of course, as is their wont, these folks had ZERO better/practical ideas for a solution. Short of electrified fences and rounding up millions of men women and children and forcibly moving (hopefully with great violence and bloodshed) them to gawdknows where.

So the round ‘em types spit and fume and accomplish diddley squat, except to wreck their chances at winning elections…

Jerome Horwitz

March 6th, 2013
10:59 am

Kam – That was tough one, a well played match right up until the ref decided the game. A horrible red card that even Fred wouldn’t have deserved. Nani had his leg up, but, the RM guy walked into it. Second time this week I’ve watched a game decided by the ref – did you see the U20 CONCACAF final. Mexican guys mugging US guys in the box and no call. Then the Mexican player flops in the box – PK. BS!

Oh, and RM is stacked – they bring Brazilian national players off the bench. And the irony of an ex MU player was not lost. Now, if I oculd just shske off the big head from the beers and shots.

Brosephus™ - Comin' straight out of Compton

March 6th, 2013
11:00 am

Keep: Over the top and pure stupidity willie.

Shorter: Willie’s just being a willie. :)

stands for decibels

March 6th, 2013
11:01 am

our williebkind is the same gentleman who informed me that Congressman John Lewis “lied” when Lewis reported hearing racial slurs uttered in his presence while passing Teapers in DC.

Methinks willieb has problems with swarthy types walking around free, perhaps.

Doggone/GA

March 6th, 2013
11:01 am

Kam “THE BANK”

Not as long as Credit Unions exist. I haven’t had a bank account in close to 30 years

Brosephus™ - Comin' straight out of Compton

March 6th, 2013
11:02 am

Keep

Willie will probably shiite his britches when he finds out that happens every day. If a person is served with a Notice to Appear before an immigration judge (just as those released have been served) and not detained at the port of entry, they are paroled into the country and released to continue traveling to where they were originally headed.

Oscar

March 6th, 2013
11:02 am

Kam – I still have the account I opend with First National. Didn’t use my Tillie Card ubtil they offered a gift certificate good for a McDonalds with every use. Used it every day for a week. Would go by the bank at five points, use the card, thet walk up to MC and lunch on a free burger. After a week, was sick of their burgers. Found out how bad they are. But still use my card. It says Wells Fargo now.

Keep Up the Good Fight!

March 6th, 2013
11:02 am

Brosephus, trolls will be trolls.

Oscar

March 6th, 2013
11:03 am

Willie – Obamacare.

Jerome Horwitz

March 6th, 2013
11:03 am

Me too DG – Love my Credit Union. Where folks know your name!

Note to self – stop scrolling the WBK as his posts are hilarious, unbelievable, not credible, unrealistic, but, funny.

stands for decibels

March 6th, 2013
11:04 am

Grand Marshal of the Disney Electric A$$hat Parade

AND the J.D. Powers Excellence in Wanktardery award winner for three consecutive years, I hear.

/drive-by

Keep Up the Good Fight!

March 6th, 2013
11:05 am

Bro, agreed. We also don’t jail everyone who is arrested. We have things called bail, tickets, etc. But the stupid buffoonery is at Level 5 — Orange with the brain dead conned.

Regnad Kcin

March 6th, 2013
11:06 am

” Short of electrified fences and rounding up millions of men women and children and forcibly moving”

I hear the TGOP is working on a “Trail of Tears” proposal…

Normal, Plain and Simple

March 6th, 2013
11:06 am

Oscar

March 6th, 2013
11:03 am

Oscar,

That’s just too cruel to spring that on Willie… :lol:

Welcome to the Occupation

March 6th, 2013
11:07 am

Guess Jay must have had a bunch of extra papers to grade eh?

They call me MISTER JamVet.

March 6th, 2013
11:07 am

Oscar @10:57, and why the misnamed conservatives (they are in fact, hard core reactionaries – adamantly opposed to political or social change) are always so damn miserable!

It’s the most unhappy people who most fear change. ~Mignon McLaughlin

Doggone/GA

March 6th, 2013
11:08 am

“Guess Jay must have had a bunch of extra papers to grade eh?”

Nope. He said yesterday he was taking the rest of the week off, but would be here on a limited basis…and would do FNM for sure

Brosephus™ - Comin' straight out of Compton

March 6th, 2013
11:09 am

Keep

Common sense eludes people who think like willie.

————–

dB

You know that award is soooo jacked, right?
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

stands for decibels

March 6th, 2013
11:10 am

one other thing:

Jay must have had a bunch of extra papers to grade eh?

You (and some others here, from the looks of things) might have missed this note from Jay. He’ll be scarce until the Friday Night Music post, which apparently is all set to go already.

Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes

March 6th, 2013
11:10 am

Now, if I oculd just shske off the big head from the beers and shots.

Mix 12 oz. of a generic lager/pilsner with 6 oz. tomato juice. Pour gently into an ice cold glass to avoid excessive head, drink quickly while it is still crackling cold, return to bed for the rest of the day.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Doggone/GA

I used to have an account at a credit union for years until they started treating me like crap, and that’s why I went to First Atl. I’d probably go back if it weren’t for my need for an institution in both of my part-time residences.

Morality?

March 6th, 2013
11:10 am

Jeb is well qualified to be Prez – 1st and foremost he has the art of flip flop down pat and 2nd he’s a FISCAL liberal like his brother and Obama.

Morality?

March 6th, 2013
11:12 am

Legalize every thing and save money on police…….. Obama’s plan to balance the budget.

Normal, Plain and Simple

March 6th, 2013
11:12 am

I think the truth of the matter is President Obama has “exported” more illegal aliens than George Bush ever did…

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/wonkblog/wp/2012/08/27/obama-is-deporting-more-immigrants-than-bush-republicans-dont-think-thats-enough/

and one that questions his immigration policy because of deportation…

http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/09/20/us-obama-immigration-idUSTRE78J05720110920

by golly

March 6th, 2013
11:13 am

I haven’t been here in a while. Was Thulsa Doom banned?

Granny Godzilla

March 6th, 2013
11:13 am

williebkind

March 6th, 2013
10:57 am

Name one thing Obama has done for our country and not for his special interest or little pathetic groups?
.
.
.
.
well…you haven’t been droned.

yet.

TaxPayer

March 6th, 2013
11:15 am

The citizens of the USofA should be thankful that cons are failures. After all, they do nothing but try to destroy our way of life here. By the way, I see the stock market is doing well and the jobs report is good. Don’t worry if only cons are still doing poorly, that’s to be expected given all the time they waste with their “Patriot” games.

St Simons - Comin' Straight out of Compton Beachware & Acc.

March 6th, 2013
11:15 am

have I ever mentioned the danger of a confused immigration policy?

Erwin's cat

March 6th, 2013
11:16 am

It’s the most unhappy people who most fear change . ~Mignon McLaughlin

But it’s the truly sad people. Who get the most out of life …~ David Byrne

AmericaShrugged

March 6th, 2013
11:17 am

Nor surprising to see many of you mourning the death of the anti-American socialist dictator, since you’re anti-American socialists yourselves!

Mick

March 6th, 2013
11:18 am

willie

How’s about re-eneergize the hunt for bin laden? The previous guy threw in the towel and didn’t care anymore. Obama got
-bin laden
-health care
-tax cuts for the middle class
-saved US auto
-saved us from economic ruin in 09
-stimulus for the american people

Would be a hell of a lot more if it weren’t for obstructionist repubs…

Granny Godzilla

March 6th, 2013
11:19 am

AmericaShrugged

March 6th, 2013
11:17 am

Nor surprising to see many of you mourning the death of the anti-American socialist dictator, since you’re anti-American socialists yourselves!
.
.
.
And you’re a liar.

Thomas Heyward Jr

March 6th, 2013
11:19 am

Granny Godzilla

March 6th, 2013
11:13 am
.
well…you haven’t been droned.

yet.
————————————–
.
As the worm turns……….I am reminded of Bush 2 joking about finding WMD’s under Tables.
.
It’s all funny ………………………I guess.

Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes

March 6th, 2013
11:20 am

But still use my card. It says Wells Fargo now.

At one time it read Wachovia (Walk-over-you.)

larry

March 6th, 2013
11:21 am

So , the sequister will not have any effect huh? As usual , think again.

That is also the case in Franklin County, according to its School Superintendent Dr. Ruth Odell.

Odell said that the cut is significant for Franklin County.

According to Odell, the Franklin County school system has relied on its federal funding for the past several years and that reserve of federal money is just about depleted.

“We’ve used so much every year that we don’t have any carry over money,” Odell said. “We don’t have any room for cuts in the federal money. So it means what federal money we used to use will now have to come from our general fund or we will have to begin lay-offs.”

In Stephens County, Whiten says it is too soon to tell what further cuts may be coming and what impact more cuts would have on the next fiscal year, which will start on July 1.

(MJ Kneiser, WLHR Radio, Lavonia contributed to this story)

Granny Godzilla

March 6th, 2013
11:21 am

Thomas

Oh please, I’m a lot funnier than Bush 43.

And better looking.

Thomas Heyward Jr

March 6th, 2013
11:22 am

Hey Granny..aka Obama Opologist ………..what do you call a Pakistani wedding?
.
Answer………………An obscene drone call.
.
Now that’s funny…………………………………not.

They call me MISTER JamVet.

March 6th, 2013
11:23 am

cat, funny.

Byrne strikes me as weird as batsh*t, and in spite of his (sardonic?) poetic license, I would very much disagree.

Let me put it this way, I’m not going to check out his theory!

Welcome to the Occupation

March 6th, 2013
11:24 am

Yep, had completely forgotten that. Thanks, stands.

barking frog

March 6th, 2013
11:24 am

Thomas Heyward Jr. 11:22
Wisconsin weddings are called the same…

Welcome to the Occupation

March 6th, 2013
11:25 am

AmericaShrugged: “Nor surprising to see many of you mourning the death of the anti-American socialist dictator, since you’re anti-American socialists yourselves!”

Wow, do you believe EVERYTHING your state propagandists feed you?

They call me MISTER JamVet.

March 6th, 2013
11:26 am

Mick,

I don’t think willie is all that happy about OBL being at the bottom of the Indian Ocean…

From a purely political standpoint, It would be MUCH better for his beloved GOP, if Public Enemy Number One were still killing Americans…

barking frog

March 6th, 2013
11:27 am

On the path to citizenship Mexicans will have to pick up the trash
and mow the grass.

Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes

March 6th, 2013
11:27 am

………..what do you call a Pakistani Wisconsin wedding?

Answer………………An obscene drone call Tommie-poo punked by a gag story.

Granny Godzilla

March 6th, 2013
11:27 am

Thomas Heyward Jr

March 6th, 2013
11:22 am

Hey Granny..aka Obama Opologist
.
.
.
No there you go just being silly.

Now if you prefer sending in a brigade of bright young americans instead of an unmanned drone why
not just be open about it.

You’d rather have our kids die .

We get that.

Now embrace your stand and be proud of all that it means.

Don’t wimp out on your glorious libertarianism.

barking frog

March 6th, 2013
11:29 am

Burials at sea make strange bedfellows i.e. JFK
and OBL.

Thomas Heyward Jr

March 6th, 2013
11:30 am

barking frog

March 6th, 2013
11:24 am

Thomas Heyward Jr. 11:22
Wisconsin weddings are called the same…
———————————————————————-
.
Whatever FrogBarf.
Cuz everybody knows that Wisconsian Wedding goers……… are much more important than Paki ones.
.
Baaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

Normal, Plain and Simple

March 6th, 2013
11:31 am

Thomas,
You’re a hoot.

barking frog

March 6th, 2013
11:31 am

Thommy Heythere Junior
a bit touchy there, aren’t ya ???

Granny Godzilla

March 6th, 2013
11:33 am

Thomas

Should we have sent an entire brigade to that Wisconsin wedding?

If so, please call ‘em first to make sure they have pleanty of brats and lienes.

They call me MISTER JamVet.

March 6th, 2013
11:33 am

Burials at sea make strange bedfellows i.e. JFK
and OBL.

?????????????

If memory serves, JFK was laid to rest in Arlington National Cemetery…

Granny Godzilla

March 6th, 2013
11:33 am

mmmmmmmmmmmmm lienes

Thomas Heyward Jr

March 6th, 2013
11:35 am

Granny Godzilla

March 6th, 2013
11:27 am
.
Don’t wimp out on your glorious libertarianism.
.
—————————————————-
.
I don’t have to “whip’ it out.
.
The bulge of Ithe rightness of individual liberty makes the Collectivist Democrat versus Republican silly ideaology self evident and makes the same ……………………flaccid.

Granny Godzilla

March 6th, 2013
11:36 am

THomas

What’s making you think of anybodys penis right now?

getalife

March 6th, 2013
11:38 am

tom,

Are you coming out?

MiltonMan

March 6th, 2013
11:38 am

“I used “your” in reference to the previously stated “your ideological compatriots,” and I’m sorry that wasn’t clear to you. If you like, I can certainly strive to be more explicit for you in the future.”

What is clear here is you have no factual information to back-up your mindless opinion.

Joe Hussein Mama

March 6th, 2013
11:38 am

T. Heyward Jr. — “The bulge of Ithe rightness of individual liberty”

If you experience an erection lasting longer than four hours, see your physician immediately due to the risk of a rare side-effect of taking Levitra.

Mick

March 6th, 2013
11:39 am

jamvet

Maybe he was alluding to JFK jr.?

Joe Hussein Mama

March 6th, 2013
11:39 am

MM — “What is clear here is you have no factual information to back-up your mindless opinion.”

What’s clear here is that you misunderstood what I said. I’ll dumb things down for you in the future, son.

Granny Godzilla

March 6th, 2013
11:39 am

JHM

Guess Thomas is going “blue”…….snicker

barking frog

March 6th, 2013
11:40 am

JamVet
you are correct, should have been JFK Jr., JFK’s
Dallas casket was buried at sea….

Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes

March 6th, 2013
11:41 am

Cheesy Grits

March 6th, 2013
11:41 am

If memory serves, JFK was laid to rest in Arlington National Cemetery…

He is. As is his brother RFK

Class of '98

March 6th, 2013
11:43 am

“The notion that a path to legalization would be a less powerful magnet than a path to citizenship makes no sense”

Can’t citizens vote? Can’t citizens receive Social Security?

I don’t claim to be an expert on immigration law, but it seems Bush is correct that a path to citizenship is a bigger lure than a path to legalization.

I do know the critique Bookman levels that Bush “changing” his position on something is somehow nefarious is absurd. Bookman would gladly kiss the derriere of his lord and savior Barack Obama, and we all know how Hussein “evolved” on gay marriage.

Pot, meet kettle.

getalife

March 6th, 2013
11:48 am

I read some ole gop are attacking your speaker as a chain smoking wino that lied about Iraq.

Iraq is the reason jeb will never be President.

Deal with it.

Doggone/GA

March 6th, 2013
11:50 am

“I do know the critique Bookman levels that Bush “changing” his position on something is somehow nefarious is absurd”

It isn’t the changing that is the “problem” it’s the “yes” today, “no” tomorrow” “yes” the next day.

“Pot, meet kettle”

When Obama goes back to his previous opinion on gay rights, THEN you can accurately claim “Pot, meet kettle” He hasn’t so far, so it’s not correct.

Brosephus™ - Comin' straight out of Compton

March 6th, 2013
11:52 am

Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes

March 6th, 2013
11:57 am

Iraq is the reason jeb will never be President.

I’m sure that Elmer Fudd will be available again in 2016.

Regnad Kcin

March 6th, 2013
12:01 pm

“I’m sure that Elmer Fudd will be available again in 2016.’

Be vewy, vewy quiet, we’w hunting the Pwesidency!

They call me MISTER JamVet.

March 6th, 2013
12:01 pm

Mick and frog,

Ah, John-John, now I got it…

I do know the critique Bookman levels that Bush “changing” his position on something is somehow nefarious is absurd.

You know that?

Weird. I looked very closely and just can’t find the word nefarious in his post. In fact there is hothing there even remotely similar. Are you sure you even know what the word nefarious means?

Brosephus™ - Comin' straight out of Compton

March 6th, 2013
12:03 pm

I’m sure that Elmer Fudd will be available again in 2016.

Elmer said he’s done with this crap. He recently switched his voter registration to independent. :)

appleseed

March 6th, 2013
12:04 pm

Legalization would not make you eligible to vote.Horrors democrat.where citizenship could be another D vote.Repubs will try for legalization.

Redneck Convert (R--and proud of it)

March 6th, 2013
12:04 pm

It says Wells Fargo now.

Well, I’m sick of them all—bunch of name-changers. We use to have First National and C & S and a couple others. Then they disappeared and we got Southtrust and then Wachovia and then we got Wells Fargo, etc. All I know is, there must be alot of profit in banking, the way these people buy out banks and make them disappear and then come up with new ones. Me, I think it’s a plot by the check-printing cos. to make us all throw away our checks and order new ones.

That’s my opinion and it’s very true. Have a good Hump Day everybody. The only good thing about it is this Chavez is toasting real comfortable about now. Dang Socialist! Just because he got the most votes is no reason why he should of been President of that country. We can see right here in this country what happens when you go by who gets the most votes.

getalife

March 6th, 2013
12:07 pm

The Venezuelans are showing patriotism today as the cons and their failed party attack Chavez.

They prove they should never be in charge of anything let alone foreign policy.

Partisay

March 6th, 2013
12:11 pm

Off topic but did anybody see O’Reilly’s meltdown with Alan Colmes? What makes it better is how calm Colmes remained, which of course just made O man madder. It’s a wonder he didn’t just walk off the set – after knocking his teeth in.

Watch it…what an embarassment O’Reilly is to the right.

Mick

March 6th, 2013
12:12 pm

Chavez, democratically elected and not a dictator. I always thought his appearance at the UN the day after bush along with his comments were pretty comical…

Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes

March 6th, 2013
12:12 pm

Be vewy, vewy quiet, we’w hunting the Pwesidency!

“If you love something, let it go; if it comes back to you, it’s yours; if it doesn’t…hunt it down and kill it.”
– Thomas “Drew Peterson” Jefferson

Jefferson

March 6th, 2013
12:12 pm

He listens to his wife or else.

Peadawg

March 6th, 2013
12:13 pm

“Chavez, democratically elected and not a dictator.” – Technically, yes. But his gov’t was very corrupt and he would go after/deny anyone who didn’t agree with him.

getalife

March 6th, 2013
12:15 pm

Our President is a socialist?

Where is our Canada Care?

Just another con lie.

Brosephus™ - Comin' straight out of Compton

March 6th, 2013
12:15 pm

Jefferson

March 6th, 2013
12:15 pm

Bet Chip Rodgers has pictures of Chavez too…. he has them or is in them with GA leaders.

indigo

March 6th, 2013
12:16 pm

Joe – 11:38

Thomas must be cleaning his guns. Rubbing and caressing that “big iron” is the only way he can get any kind of bulge.

Brosephus™ - Comin' straight out of Compton

March 6th, 2013
12:17 pm

Off topic but did anybody see O’Reilly’s meltdown with Alan Colmes?

I wouldn’t watch O’Reilly’s show if it were the only thing on tv and I was tied down in a chair in front of my tv with my eyes duct taped open.

Mr_B

March 6th, 2013
12:18 pm

Nor surprising to see many of you mourning the death of the anti-American socialist dictator, since you’re anti-American socialists yourselves!”

Any man’s death diminishes me, because I am involved in Mankind. Therefore, never send to know for whom the Bell tolls: it tolls for Thee. (John Donne)

southpaw

March 6th, 2013
12:18 pm

Kamchak & Brosephus –

Does Elmer have any stated position on the gun control debate? :-D

appleseed

March 6th, 2013
12:18 pm

Al Gore say is that right.

ITS ALL BUSH'S FAULT

March 6th, 2013
12:19 pm

Another BUSHIDIOT FROM the GOP …..

stands for decibels

March 6th, 2013
12:20 pm

Sounds like the House GOP wants to cut everything “except for the things we like”. I don’t see how this will pass the Senate

There’s no way in hell it will. Obviously, this is showboating, a way for the Speaker to say “we’ve done our work but those Demoncrapic Senators are stymieing our honest efforts.”

And nobody will believe him, but it won’t matter, because that’s the way they roll.

Partisay

March 6th, 2013
12:20 pm

I hear ya Bro…wouldn’t watch it either. Heard about it and watched his whiney blowup on youtube. Of course it’s hard to find on there because he has had so many.

Mr_B

March 6th, 2013
12:20 pm

“Elmer said he’s done with this crap. He recently switched his voter registration to independent. ‘

I heard that he was canceling his NRA membership.

Erwin's cat

March 6th, 2013
12:21 pm

Jam
Byrne strikes me as weird as batsh*t, and in spite of his (sardonic?) poetic license, I would very much disagree.

Let me put it this way, I’m not going to check out his theory!

I think it’s a matter of context…sad people tend to dwell and dissect and examine etc over everything over and over again…so in that sense they get more out of the situation aka life…maybe not good but more…if ya follow my meaning…..at least that’s my translation

stands for decibels

March 6th, 2013
12:21 pm

Does Elmer have any stated position on the gun control debate?

I believe he thinks we all have the right to bear strange mid-20th-century blunderbuss-type single-shots.

ITS ALL BUSH'S FAULT

March 6th, 2013
12:21 pm

If he runs in 2016 im sure the inbreds in GA will vote for him..

williebkind

March 6th, 2013
12:21 pm

“I wouldn’t watch O’Reilly’s show if it were the only thing on tv and I was tied down in a chair in front of my tv with my eyes duct taped open.”

So much for an open mind!

getalife

March 6th, 2013
12:22 pm

They are taking another shot at the budget and they will fail.

Brosephus™ - Comin' straight out of Compton

March 6th, 2013
12:24 pm

Brosephus™ - Comin' straight out of Compton

March 6th, 2013
12:26 pm

So much for an open mind!

Nope, it’s called CHOICE. You can do drugs or not. You can drink alcohol or not. You can watch O’Reilly or not. All three things are detrimental to your brain cells.

Doggone/GA

March 6th, 2013
12:27 pm

“All three things are detrimental to your brain cells.”

Well, the first 2 if you do them to excess, but the 3rd? Only takes one little dose!

williebkind

March 6th, 2013
12:30 pm

Speaking of O’Reilly and we know you liberals hate him because he is rich, speaks his mind and it does not follow your agendas, and has a very large audience. However, I did not read on this blog how any of you disapproved of Piers Morgan and his disgusting rant about taking away our 2nd amd. rights. Why is that? Is not the 2nd amd as important as the others like the 1st amd? Of course we need to talk about such things to keep our eyes off the KING while he attempt to change America into a socialist style Europe. The KING and other liberal progressives/communists cannot wait to get Princess Pelosi as speaker of the house so he can run free the last two years. I think the public will be aware of this in time to stop it.

Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes

March 6th, 2013
12:30 pm

So much for an open mind!

An open mind is the last thing needed for a show that falsely self-identifies as a “no spin zone” on a 24/7 spin channel that falsely self identifies as “fair and balanced”.

Doggone/GA

March 6th, 2013
12:30 pm

“However, I did not read on this blog how any of you disapproved of Piers Morgan and his disgusting rant about taking away our 2nd amd. rights. Why is that?”

Simple. He’s entitle to his opinion.

williebkind

March 6th, 2013
12:31 pm

“So much for an open mind!

Nope, it’s called CHOICE”

NOPE it is call closed minded and refusal to accept anything else as truth unless you preapprove it.

williebkind

March 6th, 2013
12:32 pm

“An open mind is the last thing needed for a show that falsely self-identifies as a “no spin zone” on a 24/7 spin channel that falsely self identifies as “fair and balanced”.”

Prove your lies and make me a believer!

Brosephus™ - Comin' straight out of Compton

March 6th, 2013
12:33 pm

However, I did not read on this blog how any of you disapproved of Piers Morgan and his disgusting rant about taking away our 2nd amd. rights.

You don’t hear me talk about O’Reilly’s rants either do you. It’s simply because I don’t watch that kind of crap. I don’t care what Piers Morgan says because he’s not me nor does he have a personal effect on my thoughts or opinions.

As I said earlier, brain killing matter. You might wanna stop watching that stuff and save your last two brain cells.

williebkind

March 6th, 2013
12:34 pm

“Simple. He’s entitle to his opinion”

That is not an answer but I guess it is the best you can do without cut and pasting what someone else tell you is the truth.

Welcome to the Occupation

March 6th, 2013
12:35 pm

Peadawg: ““Chavez, democratically elected and not a dictator.” – Technically, yes. But his gov’t was very corrupt and he would go after/deny anyone who didn’t agree with him.”

I’ll repost what I wrote above on this strange double-standard towards figures like Chavez, which you seem to share:

Can you name one single abuse of power or example of political corruption that existed under Hugo Chavez that didn’t already exist under the corporate-run oligarchic developing nation that the US not only backed for decades, but held up as exemplary?

It was only when the country was led by a self-proclaimed “socialist” (a BIGGGGG no no in Washington) and then actually — gasp — proposed to use the nation’s oil revenues to help address the devastating poverty rampant the slums of Caracas and throughout the country that Venzuela actually became a banana republic with a kook leader in the eyes of the Washington establishment. But before that, that same banana republic that was rotted from the inside out with oligarchic corruption was just the darling of the serious Washington thinker types and was held up as a model for developing nations.

Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes

March 6th, 2013
12:35 pm

Prove your lies and make me a believer!

“Never try to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and it annoys the pig.”
– Thomas “Robert A. Heinlein” Jefferson

Granny Godzilla

March 6th, 2013
12:35 pm

Hey Mr Open Mind – Williebkind

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/02/26/fox-news-ratings-february-oreilly-hannity_n_2768265.html

this is what happens when folks watch BOR with an open mind…..they realize he’s a putz.

Brosephus™ - Comin' straight out of Compton

March 6th, 2013
12:35 pm

NOPE it is call closed minded and refusal to accept anything else as truth unless you preapprove it.

I live my life to my standards, not yours. I never stated that I don’t accept things as the truth. The truth has to be presented first. One man’s opinion is just that, his opinion. Opinions do not have to be truthful or even factual to be a valid opinion. A mindless drone, such as yourself, will never grasp that concept.

getalife

March 6th, 2013
12:36 pm

fox is a joke full of clowns.

Doggone/GA

March 6th, 2013
12:36 pm

“NOPE it is call closed minded and refusal to accept anything else as truth unless you preapprove it”

Nope. It’s called “gave him a chance and he blew it”

Regnad Kcin

March 6th, 2013
12:37 pm

“I believe he thinks we all have the right to bear strange mid-20th-century blunderbuss-type single-shots”

…that can be tied into a bow-tie in emergencies…

Doggone/GA

March 6th, 2013
12:38 pm

“That is not an answer but I guess it is the best you can do without cut and pasting what someone else tell you is the truth”

You’re entitled to your opinion too

Doggone/GA

March 6th, 2013
12:39 pm

“That is not an answer but I guess it is the best you can do without cut and pasting what someone else tell you is the truth”

Oh, and BTW, just in case you’re interested (I wouldn’t take a bet on it though) – go back to Jay’s blog after the Newtown killings and check who was one of the most outspoken 2nd Amendment defenders.

Regnad Kcin

March 6th, 2013
12:41 pm

“things to keep our eyes off the KING while he attempt to change America into a socialist style Europe.”

Williebkind – because so many “socialist” countries are ruled by “kings,” right?

Brosephus™ - Comin' straight out of Compton

March 6th, 2013
12:41 pm

Doggone @ 12:38

That answer he gave sounds familarly like the “I do it, so everybody else must do it too” kind of logic to me.

stands for decibels

March 6th, 2013
12:41 pm

Piers Morgan and his disgusting rant about taking away our 2nd amd. rights.

What “disgusting rant” are you even talking about? The only time I’ve heard anything about this “Piers” fellow (about whom I am otherwise pretty much blissfully ignorant) regarding gun policy was a rather hilarious interview with a pizza shop owner who seemed to think he could tell who was mentally competent based on whether the customer walked to the shop or drove there, himself…

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wu3q2xIrC4Y

williebkind

March 6th, 2013
12:43 pm

“As I said earlier, brain killing matter. You might wanna stop watching that stuff and save your last two brain cells.”

Well, Sun Tau said it best,”If you know the enemy and know yourself, you need not fear the result of a hundred battles.”

Your intact brain cells will probably die all at once.

Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes

March 6th, 2013
12:44 pm

“I do it, so everybody else must do it too” kind of logic to me.

Yep.

More projection than an IMAX theater.

pete

March 6th, 2013
12:44 pm

I heard that Obuma is going to be a pallbearer at the funeral for Chavez. I am waiting to see the welfare president on TV shedding tears over the loss of one of his idols. Maybe Sean Penn will hold him tight tonight.

Socialist dictator has died, and Bookman is on vacation? What a coincidence.

Doggone/GA

March 6th, 2013
12:44 pm

“That answer he gave sounds familarly like the “I do it, so everybody else must do it too” kind of logic to me.”

Yup!

williebkind

March 6th, 2013
12:45 pm

“What “disgusting rant” are you even talking about?”

You know he has an hour for viewing on the gay network CNN.

Regnad Kcin

March 6th, 2013
12:45 pm

“That is not an answer but I guess it is the best you can do without cut and pasting what someone else tell you is the truth.”

…says the guy defending Bill O’reilly…

getalife

March 6th, 2013
12:45 pm

rand is doing a old fashion filibuster and will talk until he can’t talk anymore.

They call me MISTER JamVet.

March 6th, 2013
12:46 pm

Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes

March 6th, 2013
12:47 pm

St Simons - Comin' Straight out of Compton Beachware & Acc.

March 6th, 2013
12:48 pm

I don”t see how they can garner even 40% of the vote without
Christie, maybe Christie/Jeb ticket, heheh, two Rino’s,

teapublicans, where did your shiny ‘merka go?

williebkind

March 6th, 2013
12:48 pm

OMG it is Sun Tzu not Sun Tau! I guess watching Piers Morgan on CNN did kill a brain cell.

Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes

March 6th, 2013
12:48 pm

I heard that Obuma is going to be a pallbearer at the funeral for Chavez.

I heard that I will be the starting pitcher for The Braves on opening day.

Granny Godzilla

March 6th, 2013
12:50 pm

pete

March 6th, 2013
12:44 pm

I heard that Obuma is going to be a pallbearer at the funeral for Chavez. I am waiting to see the welfare president on TV shedding tears over the loss of one of his idols. Maybe Sean Penn will hold him tight tonight.

Socialist dictator has died, and Bookman is on vacation? What a coincidence.
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I nominate this for “Fantasy Post” of the day.

Granny Godzilla

March 6th, 2013
12:51 pm

Kam

That’s the one thing that would get me back in the gate at the ball park…..

Regnad Kcin

March 6th, 2013
12:51 pm

“Socialist dictator has died, and Bookman is on vacation? What a coincidence.’

Are you suggesting that Mr. Bookman “offed” President Chavez? Interesting theory…

Brosephus™ - Comin' straight out of Compton

March 6th, 2013
12:52 pm

Your intact brain cells will probably die all at once.

Well, it’s going to happen not too long after I take my last breath. That’s already a given. I simply refuse to watch crap, such as O’Reilly, to speed up that process.

“One must always remember to defend the Wu Tang”
–Thomas “Sun Tau” Jefferson

:lol: :lol:

You know your brain is effed up when you can’t even get a person’s name right with a quote.

:lol: :lol:

pete

March 6th, 2013
12:52 pm

Kamchak,

Every team in baseball is always looking for a lefty.

getalife

March 6th, 2013
12:52 pm

If a con wrote it, it is a lie.

Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes

March 6th, 2013
12:52 pm

Granny Godzilla

Yeah, me too.

williebkind

March 6th, 2013
12:53 pm

How many of you want Nancy Pelosi as speaker of the house–again?

TaxPayer

March 6th, 2013
12:54 pm

rand is doing a old fashion filibuster and will talk until he can’t talk anymore.

He’s got those Ayn Rand eyes.

Doggone/GA

March 6th, 2013
12:55 pm

“How many of you want Nancy Pelosi as speaker of the house–again?”

No point asking us. She doesn’t represent GA

They call me MISTER JamVet.

March 6th, 2013
12:55 pm

More teleprompter willie o’reilly…

(Man, that stud was HOT was he was younger, huh?)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1iRTyW2Qnbs

Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes

March 6th, 2013
12:55 pm

“One must always remember to defend the Wu Tang”
–Thomas “Sun Tau” Jefferson

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
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:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Doggone/GA

March 6th, 2013
12:57 pm

“but I do listen to what other people say and think.”

You listen to what others THINK? Amazing talent you have there

williebkind

March 6th, 2013
12:57 pm

““How many of you want Nancy Pelosi as speaker of the house–again?”

No point asking us. She doesn’t represent GA”

I think you need some quiet time with JamVet!

Joe Hussein Mama

March 6th, 2013
12:57 pm

williebkind — “How many of you want Nancy Pelosi as speaker of the house–again?”

Well, I think this is an amazing and singular time in our nation’s history. We have our first African-American President and our first Orange-American Speaker, both at the same time.

Doggone/GA

March 6th, 2013
12:57 pm

“I think you need some quiet time with JamVet!”

Huh?

getalife

March 6th, 2013
12:58 pm

“How many of you want Nancy Pelosi as speaker of the house–again?”

I do.

williebkind

March 6th, 2013
12:58 pm

LOL, typical liberals! Can not attack the message then attack the messenger! You looooserrrs

Joe Hussein Mama

March 6th, 2013
12:59 pm

williebkind — “You looooserrrs”

Who’s got the White House again? :D

Doggone/GA

March 6th, 2013
1:00 pm

“Can not attack the message then attack the messenger!”

making fun of you is not an “attack”

getalife

March 6th, 2013
1:00 pm

willie is a sore loser like the rest of the cons.

williebkind

March 6th, 2013
1:00 pm

williebkind — “You looooserrrs”

Who’s got the White House again?

The losers in America!

Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes

March 6th, 2013
1:02 pm

He’s got those Ayn Rand eyes.

All the girls they criticize
She’s got Lou Ferrigno thighs.

williebkind

March 6th, 2013
1:03 pm

“willie is a sore loser like the rest of the cons.”

Losing America to pacify a few makes all of us losers.

stands for decibels

March 6th, 2013
1:03 pm

Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes

March 6th, 2013
1:03 pm

Can not attack the message then attack the messenger!

A generation of talk radio hosts say, “What?”

TaxPayer

March 6th, 2013
1:04 pm

willieb must be reviewing his unskewed polling results.

williebkind

March 6th, 2013
1:05 pm

Lets face it we all are losers since 2008 and it is getting worse. You do have hope though, you could be killed by an illegal alien who is a known criminal recently released by the KING.

Welcome to the Occupation

March 6th, 2013
1:05 pm

Granny Godzilla: ” heard that Obuma is going to be a pallbearer at the funeral for Chavez. I am waiting to see the welfare president on TV shedding tears over the loss of one of his idols”

I know that it’s very important for you in maintaining your ideological orientation to assume that Obama held up Chavez as an idol. But as I’ve pointed out here tirelessly since yesterday, and will do so yet again, Obama and Chavez held each other in mutual contempt. Nothing at all in the way of an “idol” in that constellation.

Doggone/GA

March 6th, 2013
1:06 pm

“Lets face it we all are losers since 2008 and it is getting worse. You do have hope though, you could be killed by an illegal alien who is a known criminal recently released by the KING.”

maybe you should stop listening to the thoughts of others. They’re going to destroy what’s left of your brain.

TaxPayer

March 6th, 2013
1:06 pm

What do you expect when you cross a yellow belly with a redneck! A John Boehner!

getalife

March 6th, 2013
1:06 pm

President Obama 2.

willie 0.

willie is the loser.

Redneck Convert (R--and proud of it)

March 6th, 2013
1:07 pm

I heard that I will be the starting pitcher for The Braves on opening day.

Well, I’m putting every penny on the Braves to lose. And I’m putting 40 as the over-under on runs in the game.

williebkind

March 6th, 2013
1:07 pm

“maybe you should stop listening to the thoughts of others’

Only when they speak their thoughts to me….how do you do it?

TaxPayer

March 6th, 2013
1:08 pm

willieb must have invested his fortune in Georgia’s real estate and banking industries back in 2007.

Doggone/GA

March 6th, 2013
1:08 pm

“What do you expect when you cross a yellow belly with a redneck! A John Boehner!”

Cute! But you know, I do wonder sometimes if his doctor has thought to check his liver…seriously!

williebkind

March 6th, 2013
1:08 pm

“President Obama 2.

willie 0.

willie is the loser.”

You got that right!

Doggone/GA

March 6th, 2013
1:09 pm

“Only when they speak their thoughts to me….how do you do it?”

I don’t. I’ve never claimed to be a mind reader. And see how quickly you forget things? It was YOU who claimed, just a few minutes ago, to LISTEN to the thoughts of others.

Joe Hussein Mama

March 6th, 2013
1:16 pm

williebkind — “The losers in America!”

I’d rather be a loser WITH the White House than a loser WITHOUT it. Like you.

Joe Hussein Mama

March 6th, 2013
1:17 pm

williebloser — “Lets face it we all are losers since 2008″

Nope. Just the people on your side.

Regnad Kcin

March 6th, 2013
1:19 pm

“He’s got those Ayn Rand eyes.’

I’ve also heard “Colonel Sanders’ thighs’ and “Sammy Davis” eyes.

Most parodied song ever?

Mick

March 6th, 2013
1:20 pm

I’ll take nancy pelosi as speaker, she got things done and wasn’t scheduling 10 day recessess every other month! The boehner, least effective house speaker – ever…

Brosephus™ - Comin' straight out of Compton

March 6th, 2013
1:22 pm

Well, I do make typos every now and then but I do listen to what other people say and think. I think it is because I am not black.

I hope you don’t get paid to “think” as I’d hate for you to end up on welfare and mooching of us taxpayers. You might wanna tuck your sheets in just a bit as your melanin envy is showing big time.

“The victorious strategist only seeks battle after the victory has been won, whereas he who is destined to defeat first fights and afterwards looks for victory.”
–Thomas “Sun Tau” Jefferson

Your surrender is duly noted.

Brosephus™ - Comin' straight out of Compton

March 6th, 2013
1:25 pm

I don’t. I’ve never claimed to be a mind reader. And see how quickly you forget things? It was YOU who claimed, just a few minutes ago, to LISTEN to the thoughts of others.

“That boy ain’t right!”
– Hank Jefferson

Welcome to the Occupation

March 6th, 2013
1:25 pm

williebkind: “Lets face it we all are losers since 2008 and it is getting worse. ”

Not all of us!

Equity investors have never had it better than under Obama:

http://www.theamericanconservative.com/millman/the-dows-new-high/

DannyX

March 6th, 2013
1:26 pm

“Lets face it we all are losers since 2008″

Willieb is right! More bad news on the economy today, first the Dow hits another all time high then ADP announces 198,000 net private sector jobs were created last month.

The good ol’ days of 2008 are gone, folks. I for one miss the days of 800,000 a month job losses and stock market collapse. Good times, good times.

Hang in there Willie!

Normal, Plain and Simple

March 6th, 2013
1:26 pm

Bro’ @1322…

You’re my hero… :)

Normal, Plain and Simple

March 6th, 2013
1:27 pm

Willie is acting like the first grader whose teacher has left the classroom. Careful Willie, Jay WILL be watching…

getalife

March 6th, 2013
1:28 pm

“You got that right!”

Ya think?

When are you going to fix your party?

barking frog

March 6th, 2013
1:31 pm

It’s my party and I’ll die if I want to -GOP

getalife

March 6th, 2013
1:31 pm

We need good paying jobs to level income equality and we can’t get it with one side slobbering over the wealthy that does not need any help from any American.

Think about that cons when you try to fix your party.

Brosephus™ - Comin' straight out of Compton

March 6th, 2013
1:32 pm

Normal

I had to sit back for a minute to contemplate how being black affects your hearing/listening. After some serious thought, I realized that willie lost the battle as soon as he fired up his pc.

thomas Heyward Jr

March 6th, 2013
1:34 pm

For the sake of decency………………….Government workers and other assorted parasites should refrain from quoting our greatest founding fathers.
I find it offensive.
.
Thank you.
.
.”If we can but prevent the government from wasting the labours of the people, under the pretence of taking care of them, they must become happy.”
Thomas Jefferson

Doggone/GA

March 6th, 2013
1:34 pm

“I had to sit back for a minute to contemplate how being black affects your hearing/listening”

I suspect he thought he was referring to the “those people don’t listen to our message” and that he forgot about the “those people are too stupid to understand our message” part.

barking frog

March 6th, 2013
1:36 pm

Thomas Heyward Jr.
Many of our founding fathers were government workers, although
highly situated.

Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes

March 6th, 2013
1:36 pm

“I knew I shouldn’t have gone to that Wisconsin wedding.”
– Thomas “I Just Got Droned” Jefferson

TaxPayer

March 6th, 2013
1:37 pm

getalife

March 6th, 2013
1:38 pm

tom,

rand is filibustering drone strikes on Americans.

Are you paying attention?

Normal, Plain and Simple

March 6th, 2013
1:41 pm

I bet Thomas would give his eye teeth to have a government job…just sayin’

Normal, Plain and Simple

March 6th, 2013
1:44 pm

thomas Heyward Jr

March 6th, 2013
1:47 pm

Normal, Plain and Simple

March 6th, 2013
1:41 pm

I bet Thomas would give his eye teeth to have a government job…just sayin’
——————————————-
.Unlike Bush 3 or Obama………………some of us have principles.
I would never be a parasite.
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Thank yew.
.
And getalife ……………..Rand voted for the NDAA of 21012.
He’s no better than Obama, Bush, or any other traitor.

They call me MISTER JamVet.

March 6th, 2013
1:48 pm

For the parasite-obsessed Tommy Wayward…

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ABAi5jWvxbU

Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes

March 6th, 2013
1:49 pm

Rand voted for the NDAA of 21012.

Tommie-poo has a WABAC machine?!?!

Blue

March 6th, 2013
1:50 pm

Kind of like how Obama changed his views or “flip-flopped” on gay marriage right in the middle of an election? How convenient. But I know, Jay…that is different. If your beloved Dem changes something, they “evolved”. If GOP changes, it is a “flip flop”. I got it.

Doggone/GA

March 6th, 2013
1:53 pm

“But I know, Jay…that is different”

changing your mind is not a “flip-flop” But changing it today, changing it back the tomorrow, and then changing it to your first change the next day IS

Welcome to the Occupation

March 6th, 2013
1:53 pm

Thomas Heyward: “Government workers and other assorted parasites ”

But what makes teachers, soldiers, police officers, municipal administrators, public works engineers, and all the sundry other people parasites, where for example Wall St. hedge fund and private equity managers are not? ?

In what exactly does their parasitism consist?

Doggone/GA

March 6th, 2013
1:57 pm

“In what exactly does their parasitism consist?”

You have to make a greater effort to understand “conned speech” – if he doesn’t know what job you do for the government, THEN your a “parasite”

Welcome to the Occupation

March 6th, 2013
1:58 pm

Thomas Heyward,

A guy who’s a USPS employee — a government worker — just came to my door to deliver my mail. He has to trudge through a foot of snow to get to each house today. He seems like a pretty hard-working guy to me.

Is he a “parasite”?

DannyX

March 6th, 2013
1:58 pm

“changing your mind is not a “flip-flop” But changing it today, changing it back the tomorrow, and then changing it to your first change the next day IS”

Exactly.

They are not “flip-flops”, more like Etch-a-Sketch moments.

thomas Heyward Jr

March 6th, 2013
1:59 pm

They call me MISTER JamVet.

March 6th, 2013
1:48 pm

For the parasite-obsessed Tommy Wayward…

—————————————————————
.
Ifn you are going to post lame hippy shat…….at least make it worth it.
Dang neo-cons……………….can’t even get their music right.

sheeeesh.

.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AaRdMIlthrQ

thomas Heyward Jr

March 6th, 2013
2:00 pm

Welcome to the Occupation

March 6th, 2013
1:58 pm

Thomas Heyward,

A guy who’s a USPS employee — a government worker — just came to my door to deliver my mail. He has to trudge through a foot of snow to get to each house today. He seems like a pretty hard-working guy to me.

Is he a “parasite”?
——————————————————-
.
yes

Granny Godzilla

March 6th, 2013
2:02 pm

Welcome to the Occupation

March 6th, 2013
1:05 pm

Granny Godzilla: ” heard that Obuma is going to be a pallbearer at the funeral for Chavez. I am waiting to see the welfare president on TV shedding tears over the loss of one of his idols”

I know that it’s very important for you in maintaining your ideological orientation to assume that Obama held up Chavez as an idol. But as I’ve pointed out here tirelessly since yesterday, and will do so yet again, Obama and Chavez held each other in mutual contempt. Nothing at all in the way of an “idol” in that constellation.

.
.
.

Welcome….You assumed I made that comment…..I was copying and responding to the poster
who presented us that claptrap.

You might want to look at my orientation a little closer…..

I know Obama thought Hugo was a goof.

thomas Heyward Jr

March 6th, 2013
2:03 pm

Welcome to the Occupation

March 6th, 2013
1:53 pm

Thomas Heyward: “Government workers and other assorted parasites ”

But what makes teachers, soldiers, police officers, municipal administrators, public works engineers, and all the sundry other people parasites, where for example Wall St. hedge fund and private equity managers are not? ?

In what exactly does their parasitism consist?
—————————————————————————————–
.
If said Wall St. Hedge funds or private equity managers have Lobbyists………then they TOO are parasites.
.
See Government Saches…Government Motors………………CITIBank…………JP Morgan…….etc……………………….

DannyX

March 6th, 2013
2:04 pm

thomas, you would probably be happier in a place like Somalia.

Granny Godzilla

March 6th, 2013
2:05 pm

Thomas

The Postal worker is a parasite too?

Reminds me of a scene in Mr. Deeds Goes to Town.

Gary Cooper gets the two little old ladies to admit everybody but themselves were
“pixielated”…..

Are you the only un-parasite in America?

Doggone/GA

March 6th, 2013
2:07 pm

“Are you the only un-parasite in America?”

If he is…he’s supporting one HELL of a lot of people!

Brosephus™

March 6th, 2013
2:07 pm

For the sake of decency………………….Government workers and other assorted parasites should refrain from quoting our greatest founding fathers.
I find it offensive.

If/When you gain credibility and become relevant, what you find might become relevant. Until that time arrives, what you find has the relevance of teats on a bull.

“If a jackass brays in the forest and nobody’s there to hear it, is it’s braying relevant?”
–Thomas Jefferson

Joe Hussein Mama

March 6th, 2013
2:09 pm

T. Heyward — “For the sake of decency………………….Government workers and other assorted parasites should refrain from quoting our greatest founding fathers.”

For the sake of decency, you will now be ignored by all government workers at the Georgia DMV. To make up for this situation, you will now receive extra-special attention from the “parasites” at the IRS.

thomas Heyward Jr

March 6th, 2013
2:13 pm

Doggone/GA

March 6th, 2013
2:07 pm

“Are you the only un-parasite in America?”

If he is…he’s supporting one HELL of a lot of people!
———————————————————————————
.
No…………..not anymore.
.
I shrugged the Kenyan Brownshirt army of progs off about 6 years ago.
Me and millions of others.

thomas Heyward Jr

March 6th, 2013
2:15 pm

Joe Hussein Mama

March 6th, 2013
2:09 pm

T. Heyward — “For the sake of decency………………….Government workers and other assorted parasites should refrain from quoting our greatest founding fathers.”

For the sake of decency, you will now be ignored by all government workers at the Georgia DMV. To make up for this situation, you will now receive extra-special attention from the “parasites” at the IRS.
—————————————————————————–
.
Typical Prog.
Resort to violence, bribery, and intimidation.
.
Bring it………………….weasel.

Brosephus™

March 6th, 2013
2:16 pm

GG @ 2:05

He’s no parasite. He’s Ron Paul’s lil b*tch.

Granny Godzilla

March 6th, 2013
2:18 pm

Bro

Lil?

BIG.

HUGE.

Rockerbabe

March 6th, 2013
2:18 pm

The various members of the GOP do not seem to know what they want, other than total control of the reproductive capabilities of the women of this country and for everyone to have guns. The GOP loves guns and control more than their children. The fact is the GOP is well stupid and you just can’t fix stupid. And, silly me, I thought Jeb Bush was one of the smarter Bushes1

DannyX

March 6th, 2013
2:19 pm

“He’s Ron Paul’s lil b*tch.”

Ron Paul is a government worker.

thomas Heyward Jr

March 6th, 2013
2:19 pm

Brosephus™

March 6th, 2013
2:07 pm

For the sake of decency………………….Government workers and other assorted parasites should refrain from quoting our greatest founding fathers.
I find it offensive.

If/When you gain credibility and become relevant, what you find might become relevant. Until that time arrives, what you find has the relevance of teats on a bull.

“If a jackass brays in the forest and nobody’s there to hear it, is it’s braying relevant?”
–Thomas Jefferson
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.
Decent people can survive without parasites.
But …..parasites can’t live woithout decent people…………… no matter how many hollow points and tanks ya’ll have.
.
We’ll outlast ye……………………..bet me./……………..Bro.

Granny Godzilla

March 6th, 2013
2:20 pm

Bring it?

snicker

Joe Hussein Mama

March 6th, 2013
2:20 pm

T. Heyward — “Typical Prog. Resort to violence, bribery, and intimidation.”

Typical con. Got nothing but insults, namecalling and ignorance.
.
“Bring it………………….weasel.”

“Kiss it. Riiiiiiiight in the middle.”

– Nathan Hale

Granny Godzilla

March 6th, 2013
2:23 pm

Thomas is really not very good at being a bully.

It’s quite humorous.

thomas Heyward Jr

March 6th, 2013
2:23 pm

DannyX

March 6th, 2013
2:19 pm

“He’s Ron Paul’s lil b*tch.”

Ron Paul is a government worker.
-=————————————————————–
.
No he isn’t………………..dummy.
.
He’s busy rallying the youth.
.
You may now go and sit down to steady your knocking knees.
———————————————————————————————
.
You may ignore Personal Liberty and Freedom……………but personal Liberty and Freedom will not ignore YOU. One day……Uncle Sam will not be there to hold your hand.
Thomas Jeeter.

Welcome to the Occupation

March 6th, 2013
2:23 pm

thomas heyward: ” If said Wall St. Hedge funds or private equity managers have Lobbyists………then they TOO are parasites.”

Guess they’re parasites then. (They have armies of them.)

Regnad Kcin

March 6th, 2013
2:24 pm

“The Postal worker is a parasite too?”

“Parasite. You keep saying that word. I do not think it means what you think it means” – Thomas “Inigo Montoya” Jefferson

thomas Heyward Jr

March 6th, 2013
2:25 pm

Granny Godzilla

March 6th, 2013
2:23 pm

Thomas is really not very good at being a bully.

It’s quite humorous.
———————————————–
.
Thank you Granny.
I’m not trying to be a bully.
I leave that to the Progs.
.
I’m just being ………………………………………………………………………………me.

Granny Godzilla

March 6th, 2013
2:26 pm

Ron Paul is on social security……that taker! that parasite!

Granny Godzilla

March 6th, 2013
2:28 pm

THomas

Just being you….a rather humorous and ineffective bully……

Bringing it on …..snicker

Joe Hussein Mama

March 6th, 2013
2:28 pm

T. Heyward — “Decent people can survive without parasites.”

Good. Let’s see you do it.

Stop using our US Mail (Federal service)
Stop using our road systems, and goods and services that move upon it (planned, built at the direction of and maintained by Federal and State DOTs)
Stop using our air travel system, and goods and services that move via it (operated under the supervision of the FAA)
Stop using TV and radio (regulated by the FedGov)
Stop eating all food you don’t produce yourself (inspected by the USDA)
Stop using our banks (deposits insured by the FDIC and FSLIC).
Don’t ever call 911 again (service provided by local governments)
In case of natural disaster, you’re on your own (wouldn’t want National Guard or FEMA parasites to get you off the roof of your house and give you an MRE)

In short, just move out to the sticks of Alaska where there are no roads or utilities, build yourself a shack and let’s see you make it for two years on your own, Champ. Frankly, I bet you’d be peeing in your Underoos before the first night was halfway over.

“But …..parasites can’t live woithout decent people……………”

No, you certainly can’t, parasite. Without the work performed by those you deride as “parasites,” you’d have dried up and blown away a long time ago.

Regnad Kcin

March 6th, 2013
2:29 pm

“Ron Paul is on social security……that taker! that parasite!”

Along with the US military – all parasites! Right, TH,jr.?

mm

March 6th, 2013
2:30 pm

“I’m just being ………………………………………………………………………………me.”

The cons just can’t help themselves. They’re wired to be morons.

DannyX

March 6th, 2013
2:31 pm

“No he isn’t………………..dummy.”

You are right, he has been off of his government job for 2 whole months now. Parasite Paul worked for the government for 35 years.

Now Parasite Paul is living off of his government pension.

Joe Hussein Mama

March 6th, 2013
2:31 pm

T. Heyward — “I’m not trying to be a bully”

Well, that’s good. Because you’re certainly not *succeeding* at being one.

“It’s a fine and beautiful nation, and the people are kind and generous. Except for the conservative d-bags you find here and there.”

– The Marquis de Lafayette

Normal, Plain and Simple

March 6th, 2013
2:32 pm

Yeah, I was wondering that since I receive a military retirement check and starting the end of this month a Social security, am I a parasite? If I am, then all I can say is……………gotta love it!

getalife

March 6th, 2013
2:33 pm

We already knew tom is a con kook.

Brosephus™

March 6th, 2013
2:33 pm

Heyward

Your lame shtick is getting tiring. It was tiring when you used the name jt, and it’s just as tiring now. Your display of ignorance is truly laudable, even as you denigrate the very people who die to protect your freedom to spew your bullsh*t. Why don’t you practice what you preach and protect your own freedom instead of being a parasite and depending on others to do it for you. People such as you are the true parasites, but you have your head uRon Paul’s and Alex Jones’s ass to see it.

Brosephus™

March 6th, 2013
2:35 pm

They call me MISTER JamVet.

March 6th, 2013
2:37 pm

Wayward is just another weird far right wing lightweight/semi-literate drama queen (parasite!) with a slightly different shtick. Different, but not really any more interesting or clever than the garden variety flamer.

And if anyone here thinks the guy has the intellectual firepower to actually debate in detail or even substantiate his endless conspiracy theories (parasite!), at least in more than five word responses, good luck with getting it out of him!

The best analogy I can come up with for him is four corner basketball before they implemented the shot clock. (Think Fort Wayne Pistons defeating the Minneapolis Lakers by a record-low score of 19-18.)

Boooooorrring…. Boooooorrring…. Boooooorrring….

Granny Godzilla

March 6th, 2013
2:38 pm

Danny X

According to reporting while Ron Paul does accept social security he does not take the pension.

.5 Parasite?

DannyX

March 6th, 2013
2:46 pm

“.5 Parasite?”

Granny, can I offer a compromise? .75 Parasite? After all, he was a government worker for 35 years, you shouldn’t be able to shed that overnight. Right thomas?

Granny Godzilla

March 6th, 2013
2:51 pm

DannyX

You drive a hard bargain…..but okee dokee

They call me MISTER JamVet.

March 6th, 2013
2:52 pm

You gotta love the lamestream media’s Conservative News Network.

Vis a vis Jeb talking publicly about running for president,they’re referring to some of the reaction as “Bush fatigue”.

Hysterical. Is that what the kids are calling it these days?

And just to show you how much CNN is in the Republican Party’s pockets they wrote:

Brother George W. Bush served two terms but left office in January 2009 as a very unpopular president, even among Republicans, who were angered by his support of federal spending increases and his 2008 bailout of Wall Street during the financial crisis.

Do tell?

GWB had a 75% approval rating by Republicans in January 2009.

CNN has become the new Fox News…

Regnad Kcin

March 6th, 2013
2:52 pm

What the heck…

SONS OF CONFEDERATE VETERANS!

Welcome to the Occupation

March 6th, 2013
2:53 pm

Sorry Granny, I have a bad tendency to do that now and again (ask JamVet).

Welcome to the Occupation

March 6th, 2013
2:55 pm

So for the record, Thomas Heyward thinks the postal worker who’s trudging through a foot of snow today delivering mail is a “parasite”. This without offering the slightest justification for this view. Leaving us to assume the only reason he holds this view is that it’s a vague cue he’s picked up from his “thought leaders” at places like the Rupert Murdoch political propaganda empire.

Granny Godzilla

March 6th, 2013
2:57 pm

Welcome….No problem sweetie……

Welcome to the Occupation

March 6th, 2013
2:58 pm

JamVet: “CNN has become the new Fox News…”

And they admit it quite freely in fact (they admit pretty openly that FOX, not MSNBC or some other outlet, is the real game they’re hunting.)

Which is even more disturbing.

Doggone/GA

March 6th, 2013
3:02 pm

“SONS OF CONFEDERATE VETERANS!”

Waste of time. Jay took the rest of the week off

Normal, Plain and Simple

March 6th, 2013
3:04 pm

Enter your comments here

That Black Guy

March 6th, 2013
3:05 pm

Recon throwing it out hoping it will stick.Recon when you are saying the democrats have done nothing for the blacks.Please list what the republicans have done for the blacks.
_____________________________________________
You didn’t ask me, but IMO that is the wrong question.

For me, the question isn’t “what have R/D’s done for me”, it’s “what do I WANT them to do for me”?

The answer? The same as they do for EVERYBODY else.

I want BOTH parties to stop treating me as if I have no brain.
Repub – “Blacks are stuck on the Dem plantation.”
Dem – “Blacks need us, without us, repubs will have them swinging from trees”

That is the insulting ish that I hate from both parties. The broadbrush generalities that are used to stuff people into boxes.

Just like ALL Blacks aren’t (fill in the blank) and all Native Americans aren’t (fill in the blank), ALL dems or repubs do not neatly fir in a particular box.

Don’t believe me? Just ask my 70 year old republician uncle who lives out side of Philly.

A republician who is not a white, southern, baptist, racist, redneck.

Also, he has his masters in math, so he does math and is not stupid.

But please, keep trying to stuff him into that box.

Normal, Plain and Simple

March 6th, 2013
3:05 pm

Whoops! Wrong button… :lol:

That’s what the ICBM tech said too…

They call me MISTER JamVet.

March 6th, 2013
3:07 pm

Welcome, but to shuck and grin for the Bush apolgists like that???

Lordy be.

I guess the imploding GOP needs all the help they can get…

Normal, worse than that! You’ll be a double dipping parasite!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JqRvitT9T8o

Brosephus™

March 6th, 2013
3:07 pm

TBG

Standing ovation!!!!!

—————

Normal

:lol: :lol:

Erwin's cat

March 6th, 2013
3:10 pm

The Black Guy – Great post @ 3:05

Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes

March 6th, 2013
3:13 pm

Leaving us to assume the only reason he holds this view is that it’s a vague cue he’s picked up from his “thought leaders” at places like the Rupert Murdoch political propaganda empire.

Before Fox News there was Atlas Shrugged.

Erwin's cat

March 6th, 2013
3:14 pm

RIP AL:
Guitarist Alvin Lee has died unexpectedly and suddenly in Spain after what was supposed to be routine surgery, according to his family.

Doggone/GA

March 6th, 2013
3:15 pm

“Before Fox News there was Atlas Shrugged”

I heard a short interview this AM with a Pakistani writer, who is also a business consultant. He spoke about the push here in the US to “get government out of the way of business” (not his quote) and he said if you want to know what it will be like…it will be like Pakistan. Corrupt, exploitive…and not pretty.

Cheesy Grits

March 6th, 2013
3:15 pm

A guy who’s a USPS employee — a government worker — just came to my door to deliver my mail. He has to trudge through a foot of snow to get to each house today. He seems like a pretty hard-working guy to me.

This is what they dont understand. They like to think about the government as black helicoptors, Area 54 and conspiracies.

The governement is mostly made up of hard working people, Real Americans who want to serve in a public way.

The Government can be what we all agree on and come together to do for the common good.

Anothe reason Cons hate Government. They REALLY REALLY suck at governing.

Regnad Kcin

March 6th, 2013
3:17 pm

“RIP AL:
Guitarist Alvin Lee has died unexpectedly and suddenly in Spain after what was supposed to be routine surgery, according to his family.”

He indeed “changed the world.” :(

Doggone/GA

March 6th, 2013
3:17 pm

“Anothe reason Cons hate Government. They REALLY REALLY suck at governing”

And don’t you forget it!

Doggone/GA

March 6th, 2013
3:18 pm

“Guitarist Alvin Lee has died unexpectedly and suddenly in Spain after what was supposed to be routine surgery, according to his family.””

I’m sorry to hear that…but when *I* had surgery, my doctor told me there IS no “routine” surgery

Granny Godzilla

March 6th, 2013
3:19 pm

DannyX

March 6th, 2013
3:20 pm

“They REALLY REALLY suck at governing”

This sucker could go down.
-George Jefferson Bush

Fred ™

March 6th, 2013
3:22 pm

Damn Backwards Nick, that’s sad news indeed……. and yet another sign I’m getting old…….. RIP Alvin. I was privileged enough to see them in 88 or 89 in Germany the last time. It was a reunion tour and I don’t know if they ever came to the States. Jefferson Airplane was re-united as well at that concert and Jethro Tull was there. Out in the Green in Nuremberg.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RBAwv49slC8

They call me MISTER JamVet.

March 6th, 2013
3:22 pm

Alvin Lee is gone?

Oh no.

I saw him once in Lakeland, Florida, Must have been in 1974. All I really remember is that he was the kind of guy with the stage presence that I could not take my eyes off of him. And of course there was that blistering guitar work at Woodstock that lit everybody up.

I’m glad you shared the news with us cat, but damn, this sure is a downer.

Now he will have to play forever in my memories…

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qvj99sK1Gl0

Fred ™

March 6th, 2013
3:25 pm

How cool. I just found a bootleg recording of Tull from that Out in the Green Concert:

http://soundaboard.blogspot.com/2011/02/jethro-tull-out-in-green-1988.html

Erwin's cat

March 6th, 2013
3:25 pm

Hopefully it’s not too late for Jay to memorialize him Friday Evening

barking frog

March 6th, 2013
3:26 pm

The sequester sucks because it is a knee jerk response to the
demand of the people to rein in government spending. The tea
party is riding this demand without trying to fulfill it. It’s like the
local school board cutting bus service as a first response to
tax revenue shortfall. Squeeze the taxpayer. The fact that there
was no planning that went into the sequestration bill is plain to
see and that falls onto the Congress and the President. At this
time we do not have planning to fix the sequester, just planning
to somehow protect my constituency by all concerned. Sad.

Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes

March 6th, 2013
3:27 pm

Doggone/GA

Of course.

We only have to look at the past thirty years of deregulation and see how much they try to get around what regulation remains.

And then there’s the fiasco of the totally unregulated derivatives market that Brooksley Born warned about.

Doggone/GA

March 6th, 2013
3:29 pm

“The sequester sucks because it is a knee jerk response to the
demand of the people to rein in government spending”

It’s worse than that. It’s a plea from help from people who cannot control themselves: STOP US before we do something even MORE stupid

Bunch of jerks, can’t even stop themselves from passing spending bills…so they have to beg someone else to do what they CAN’T.

They call me MISTER JamVet.

March 6th, 2013
3:29 pm

The entire A Space in Time LP was insanely good and no true rock collection is complete without it.

I played it endlessly.

The multilayered harmonica work on this one smokes…

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nrwk9SvdaLk

Joe Hussein Mama

March 6th, 2013
3:34 pm

TBG — “Also, he has his masters in math, so he does math and is not stupid.”

As the first Mrs. JHM was a grad student in Math, I can attest to the “not stupid” portion of your comment. :)

Joe Hussein Mama

March 6th, 2013
3:36 pm

C. Grits — “Anothe reason Cons hate Government. They REALLY REALLY suck at governing.”

Republicans are the party that says government doesn’t work. Then they go get themselves elected and prove it.

– P. J. O’Rourke

barking frog

March 6th, 2013
3:44 pm

stands for decibels

March 6th, 2013
3:52 pm

Yeah, I saw Alvin Lee live, once, myself. not a huge fan of that kind of boogie-bluesy thing but he was an incredibly talented practitioner within that genre, and it’s sad to lose him.

BADA BING (imagine an umlaut above the i, I'm trying to class this place up a little)

March 6th, 2013
3:55 pm

Chavez…..muey dead, mas dead. He and Castro were best buddies, looks like that vaunted free, Cuban health care system could not save him from the secret cancer program that Bush developed, and infected him with.

Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes

March 6th, 2013
4:00 pm

Chavez…..muey dead, mas dead.

Yep.

Just like Breitbart.

stands for decibels

March 6th, 2013
4:00 pm

muey dead, mas dead.

“It’s like, how much more dead could this be? and the answer is none. None more dead. ”

–Thomas “Nigel Tufnel” Jefferson

barking frog

March 6th, 2013
4:02 pm

Keep Up the Good Fight!

March 6th, 2013
4:05 pm

barking frog

March 6th, 2013
4:09 pm

BADA BING (imagine an umlaut above the i, I'm trying to class this place up a little)

March 6th, 2013
4:10 pm

I was in Venezuela 10 years ago, Caracas, Magarita Island, and Los Roques. I was shortchanged at many stores and restaurants, and made them give me correct change. They think all gringos are stupid, and did not like Americans.You may have a different story, but that is the way it happened to me. A taxi driver asked me if I wanted to stop and see Castro Park on Margarita Island, and I said “Hell No”, I am an American.

Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes

March 6th, 2013
4:14 pm

I said “Hell No”, I am an American.

So’s Castro.

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

They call me MISTER JamVet.

March 6th, 2013
4:16 pm

Brosephus™ - Comin' straight out of Compton

March 6th, 2013
4:19 pm

Anothe reason Cons hate Government. They REALLY REALLY suck at governing.

And the continuously campaign on the message that government is broken, yet they control government in 30 states, as some of the cons here like to brag. Effective government is the antithesis to their stranglehold on power, so they have to f**k government up to stay in power.

In reality, they might not suck if they actually tried to govern effectively. Their mindset, however, dicates they f**k things up so they can campaign on how broken government is so they can maintain their office.

getalife

March 6th, 2013
4:21 pm

I remember when cheney would go on all the talk shows and call rand a unpatriotic terrorist sympathizer

And the cons would cheer..

getalife

March 6th, 2013
4:23 pm

Now, the cons say they care about freedom but that ship sailed under w.

Hypocrites and flip floppers.

BADA BING (imagine an umlaut above the i, I'm trying to class this place up a little)

March 6th, 2013
4:26 pm

Bush (Dr. Evil and his Super Secret Cancer Infecting Machine) …..1
Chavez ( Leftist Hero and not a Dictator at all)…………………………0

Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes

March 6th, 2013
4:29 pm

I said “Hell No”, I am an American.

So was Chavez.

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Keep Up the Good Fight!

March 6th, 2013
4:32 pm

Brosephus, a friend just forwarded one of those “emails” that claims to be about a NO attorney who did a title report on LA land back to 1803 and the “FHA says he has to get a title report all the way to the original owner”. Then the attorney allegedly sends back this smartarse letter about how the LA purchase was done in 1803 from France, France got it from Spain, Columbus discovered America (that ought to just PO josef :D ) and he was charged by god…. Conclusion: See how inept govt is and this is who you want to control healthcare?

Of course, there is never a title requirement that title goes back to the “origin” (wouldn’t that be the big bang?). But the same stupid joke has been around since the 1930’s per snopes. http://www.snopes.com/humor/letters/landgrab.asp But this is the kind of stupidity the GOP swallows and uses to create the fiction that government is the problem.

pogo

March 6th, 2013
4:33 pm

Obama wants the power to use drones to kill Americans in their own country without a trial. And where is the liberal outrage? Not here. This whole blog is full of “play” liberals who ultimately are willing to sell out their belief system ( if they even have one) in order to feed at the public trough. All they want is their government “check” that enables them to sit at their computer all day typing on this blog. News flash! If you spend your whole life on some meaningless blog you by no stretch of the imagination are relevant.

barking frog

March 6th, 2013
4:37 pm

pogo
Obama wants the power to use drones to kill Americans in their own country without a trial
…………………………………………………………………………..
that will put a new slant on budget negotiations….

YouLibs

March 6th, 2013
4:37 pm

pogo

I’m a liberal and I am outraged about the drones. The rest of your post is pretty much full of it, too.

Granny Godzilla

March 6th, 2013
4:38 pm

pogo

March 6th, 2013
4:33 pm

Obama wants the power to use drones to kill Americans in their own country without a trial
.
.
.

AH, nope.

getalife

March 6th, 2013
4:38 pm

pogo,

Where were you when w stole freedom?

The left started large protests.

You cons have one gop filibustering but your party agrees with our President.

Way late to the freedom protests pogo.

Are you a hypocrite flip flopper?

You called the left unpatriotic terrorist sympathizers.

Brosephus™ - Comin' straight out of Compton

March 6th, 2013
4:38 pm

But this is the kind of stupidity the GOP swallows and uses to create the fiction that government is the problem.

Exactly, and the gullible fall for it hook, line, and sinker. Nevermind the fact that this “inept” government has kept us safe and in existence for more than 200 years. Also, the synapses in their brain fail to make the connection when realizing this government protects and supports the world’s sole superpower nation.

But, in their simpleton brains, the government is the problem. If we’re where we are with a problematic government, I’d hate to see where we would be with an effective government. :)

Granny Godzilla

March 6th, 2013
4:39 pm

barking frog

coming soon

Hurts Rent a Drone

Domestic violence on steroids.

Cheesy Grits

March 6th, 2013
4:40 pm

Obama wants the power to use drones to kill Americans in their own country without a trial

Your right

In extreme we have to stop Timothy McViegh circumstances.

You left that part out.

getalife

March 6th, 2013
4:42 pm

They will need it for rw hate groups.

President Obama will drone you pogo.

They call me MISTER JamVet.

March 6th, 2013
4:42 pm

Chick Churchill’s kickass piano playing drives this one…

Cuz it’s a good life
Too good to lose

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aGpGQYbOzg8

barking frog

March 6th, 2013
4:42 pm

Granny Godzilla
it will certainly spice up Cheaters..

Welcome to the Occupation

March 6th, 2013
4:45 pm

Cheesy grits: “The governement is mostly made up of hard working people, Real Americans who want to serve in a public way. / The Government can be what we all agree on and come together to do for the common good.”

You said it well.

BADA BING (imagine an umlaut above the i, I'm trying to class this place up a little)

March 6th, 2013
4:46 pm

Bush got Saddam and Chavez
Obama got Osama
Bush is ahead

Erwin's cat

March 6th, 2013
4:46 pm

Bro – . If we’re where we are with a problematic government, I’d hate to see where we would be with an effective government. :)

I reminded of an old joke. A farmer with a plow horse pulled stumps and plowed several acres of land and the local preacher stopped by to see the farmers progress…looking over the plowed fields the preacher says..It’s amazing what God and man could do together…. the farmer looks at him and says…yeah, you should have seen this land when God was working it by himself :)

bookman parrot

March 6th, 2013
4:47 pm

if Jeb Bush ran and won (i know i hear lib grumblings and laughter), but then BHO and his blind followers could blame a Bush for the eight years of BHO… whichever was convenient at the time

Recon 0311 2533

March 6th, 2013
4:51 pm

A bi-partisan bill passes the House to prevent the government shut down next month and provide the administration flexibility to ease the sequester pain by prioritizing accounts and shifting funds. It carried with 53 Democrats voting in favor much to the dismay of the old crone or the deposed former House speaker.

bman.

March 6th, 2013
4:52 pm

“The governement is mostly made up of hard working people, Real Americans who want to serve in a public way. / The Government can be what we all agree on and come together to do for the common good.”

I don’t favor getting rid of all Govt workers (city, county, state, federal), but you might be getting a little carried away with your description of “most” of the workers.

Brosephus™ - Comin' straight out of Compton

March 6th, 2013
4:52 pm

Obama wants the power to use drones to kill Americans in their own country without a trial.

That’s a simple problem with a simple solution. Don’t become an enemy of the Constitution. The president, the military, and every other person working for the federal government have taken an oath of office to protect and defend the Constitution, with all but the president’s oath specifying ALL enemies both foreign and domestic. If they don’t uphold that oath, then they are derelict of their own duties, and we wouldn’t want government people who were not doing their jobs would we?

They call me MISTER JamVet.

March 6th, 2013
4:52 pm

if Jeb Bush ran and won it would mean that malevolent aliens had finally gotten here and taken over mankind’s minds…

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GcYyE6qen8s

Redneck Convert (R--and proud of it)

March 6th, 2013
4:54 pm

Obama wants the power to use drones to kill Americans in their own country without a trial

Well, where’s Chip Rogers? is what I want to know. He saved thousands of us from being chased down by thugs and having a chip put in our brain. Now some a-hole wants to drone my a$$ and old Chip’s nowhere to be found.

Brosephus™ - Comin' straight out of Compton

March 6th, 2013
4:54 pm

Erwin's cat

March 6th, 2013
4:56 pm

GritsIn extreme we have to stop Timothy McViegh circumstances.

That’s not a good enough reason to allow drone attacks on Americans on American soil. If you had enough intelligence to identify and stop a McViegh…send a squad car, arrest him and send him to trial.

to parody you…”it’s the drones stupid”

Welcome to the Occupation

March 6th, 2013
4:57 pm

Brosephus: “That’s a simple problem with a simple solution. Don’t become an enemy of the Constitution”

Nothing simple about it at all.

Who gets to decide when what I have said or done — or maybe even thought — makes me an “enemy” of the Constitution? What if I despise the Constitution and want to tear it up and write a better one, does that make me an “enemy” of the Constitution?

The statements this White House has put out on the matter confirm all my worst fears about the potential for abuse here, which is only echoed by your statement.

You’ve got the perfect ingredients to turn this into an autocratic state, run from the executive.

josef

March 6th, 2013
4:59 pm

BROSEPHUS
@ 4:52

Sounds good on paper, but in practice? This is a slippery slope I don’t think we want to go down. Until we get habeas corpus back, we’re up sh*t creek without a paddle.

Erwin's cat

March 6th, 2013
5:01 pm

The statements this White House has put out on the matter confirm all my worst fears about the potential for abuse here, which is only echoed by your statement.
———————————————————————-
Strange week…first I find myself wholeheartedly agreeing with Jay…Now Welcome….i need a drink :wink:

You’ve got the perfect ingredients to turn this into an autocratic state, run from the executive.

barking frog

March 6th, 2013
5:01 pm

Don’t forget the 2700 tanks for Homeland Security…we may be invaded.

josef

March 6th, 2013
5:03 pm

ERWIN’S

Mine is a liberal perspective and I see the same thing.

barking frog

March 6th, 2013
5:03 pm

josef
habeas corpus only gets you in front of a judge,
who is a government official……

Keep Up the Good Fight!

March 6th, 2013
5:03 pm

EC, I would agree with you, with one or two exceptions. Terrorists have a nuke or potential to set off WMD as the cops pull up (yes I know its a movie scenario). Must also meet other criteria of proof, inability to get to them by another method, etc. But there sure needs to be a real investigation. It still troubles me and I am open to better suggestions, but it is unfortunately plausible. Still, given the flak, it will not be something that a President would do lightly.

They call me MISTER JamVet.

March 6th, 2013
5:04 pm

Habeus corpus decimated, unilateral presidencies, fascists in Washington.

Who cares?

I’m playing Alvin Lee…

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KeN4Gx728qM

josef

March 6th, 2013
5:04 pm

FROG

This is true. But you still have to produce a body.

But that one on a new slant to budget negotiations was rich! :-)

Welcome to the Occupation

March 6th, 2013
5:07 pm

bman: “I don’t favor getting rid of all Govt workers (city, county, state, federal), but you might be getting a little carried away with your description of “most” of the workers.”

Doesn’t matter whether we’re getting “carried away” or not really, as they’re not on trial. What public workers are doing — the kind we’re talking about here, the servants of the public, not the cronies and hacks who work their way into the sliding door of government and lucrative private jobs like Dick Cheney and Jack Lew — is providing service at the opportunity cost of passing up more lucrative opportunities elsewhere.

Which is a far cry from the Wall Street bankers who are well and truly the parasites in this system, doing nothing but lining their pockets and putting other people’s livelihoods at risk, then expecting those same people to bail them out and preserve their wealth through their tax dollars when these bankers have blown everything up.

Brosephus™ - Comin' straight out of Compton

March 6th, 2013
5:07 pm

Who gets to decide when what I have said or done — or maybe even thought — makes me an “enemy” of the Constitution? What if I despise the Constitution and want to tear it up and write a better one, does that make me an “enemy” of the Constitution?

There are ways about doing any and all of that which falls within the Constitution. Taking a backpack bomb and trying to kill as many Americans as possible isn’t one of them.

There needs to be criteria that has to be met, and I seriously doubt that the people making these decisions are simply throwing darts at photos to decide who’s next. As it currently stands, I have no problem with that decision remaining within the Executive Branch. When Congress can show themselves to act, think, and reason as adults, then they should be allowed say as well.

I don’t think it’s something that would ever happen on home soil unless it was one of those “Jack Bauer” type situations where not doing something will lead to very bad things happening.

————–

josef

I was told a while back that, when you see things as the worst, you have to rely on faith. I don’t trust Obama, but I trust Congress even less. I trusted Bush more than I trusted Congress then. I don’t think our military would specifically target our own people unless there was damn good reason to do so.

I understand the slippery slope argument, but I trust in my fellow citizens. If anybody wants to change things, they can run for office or join the military.

Oscar

March 6th, 2013
5:15 pm

Welcome – The constitution provides that the Supreme Court and Congress are there to prevent the President from becoming an autocrat. Congress can impeach. Court can declare his act illegal – making president to impeachment. Checks and balances against abuse.

BADA BING (imagine an umlaut above the i, I'm trying to class this place up a little)

March 6th, 2013
5:15 pm

Mr Jam…..I saw Alvin at the 2nd Atl Pop Festival in Byron Ga, July 1970. He played “Going Home”, the same song he played at Woodstock 1 year before. I still love that song.

Fred ™

March 6th, 2013
5:15 pm

I keep thinking this is Saturday since the girls are home lol.

barking frog

March 6th, 2013
5:16 pm

Almost everything the President or the military does has due
process built in and i’m sure Homeland security has the same
burden.

bman.

March 6th, 2013
5:17 pm

“Doesn’t matter whether we’re getting “carried away” or not”

That’s all you really had to say. You could have saved the rest for some shiny poster board….

getalife

March 6th, 2013
5:17 pm

These same cons cheered w on when he stole freedom.

Hypocrites called Americans that stood up for freedom unpatriotic terrorist sympathizers.

Oscar

March 6th, 2013
5:18 pm

Bro – In the end, the army has the real power. no matter what the constitution says. As long as they follow the constitution we are in good shape. Coups are made be the generals when they decide the governmentis no longer functions. Or by popular uprisings. But that does not succeed unless the army joins in.

Oscar

March 6th, 2013
5:20 pm

Fred – Since I retired I think every day is Saturday or Sunday. Keep working so those ss checks will keep coming.

bman.

March 6th, 2013
5:20 pm

Fred.. .. any news on the new venture yet?

josef

March 6th, 2013
5:20 pm

BROSEPHUS

We do have experience in this. During the Civil War the writ was suspended by both the Union and the Confederacy. In the general overview, the MAJOR historians pro Confederate or pro Union view it in hindsight as “necessary.” Overall, that argument may carry some weight. However, when you get down to the nitty gritty, the actual cases of its application at the individual level, it is a case study in abuse and persecution for political ends and to settle personal scores. The executive, the congressional, AND the military showed little distinction in how they applied it. The judicial did try to restrain, but had little effect. Ex parte Merryman wasn’t worth the paper it was written on and the Vallandingham case is an example of what the military did with it.

Playing fast and loose with habeas corpus is just TOOO dangerous, imeoiauo

TaxPayer

March 6th, 2013
5:23 pm

So That Black Guy tells us that he has a hermit relative that still believes the GOP is the party of Lincoln. :roll:

They call me MISTER JamVet.

March 6th, 2013
5:23 pm

I find it a bit more than ironic that these fake warrior b@stards in the GOP were successful in taking out two regimes in the previous decade.

The one in Iraq and their own.

Political suicide by gutless stupidity.

Never again.

BADA, cool story. Not knowing where the hell Byron, Ga. is, I had to look it up! LOL!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RLcixNnk1rc

Paul

March 6th, 2013
5:25 pm

Logged on, hit a couple pages up, read That Black Guy’s post and thought “wow, good, something new. I guess I’ll leave the blog up for a while.”

Then I got to the part about the drones. This could get interesting.

Here we go again – people talking about hypotheticals that were not part of Holder’s thinking (I’m speaking of the militia guys with their tyrannical government scenarios).

A drone is just another weapons platform. Look at that guy just died in the Calif mountains, holed up in his house. No one said that was executing him without due process (even though the burn may have been caused by tear gas).

So let’s set up a more likely scenario. Nut his home next to a school opens up with a Bushmaster. Barricaded in his house. Peppering the surrounding homes. Has a gas mask, make it whatever you want to make him pretty impervious.

Do the cops open fire on his house? Without reading him his rights? Without asking a judge if it’s okay? Nope. Can the police grab their assault weapons and climb into an armored vehicle which’ll ram the house where the shooter is, breach the walls and rain the inside with bullets? Sure.

So… what’s the difference?

Aside from the fact it ain’t gonna happen because that’d be a local law enforcement matter and would not involve federal authorities.

(and saying it makes or a better conspiracy or fear of a tyrannical Washington government doesn’t count)

getalife

March 6th, 2013
5:25 pm

If the military does not get you, the drone will so act right or leave.

Nothing to it.

Welcome to the Occupation

March 6th, 2013
5:26 pm

josef: “the actual cases of its application at the individual level, it is a case study in abuse and persecution for political ends and to settle personal scores

There you go.

Paul

March 6th, 2013
5:26 pm

Make that “Do the cops open fire on his house? Without reading him his rights? Without asking a judge if it’s okay? YUP.”

getalife

March 6th, 2013
5:27 pm

The police are militarized with tanks and drones.

You cons might want to ask the police about their policy too.

Stevie Ray

March 6th, 2013
5:30 pm

Wow, I trek off to mash numbers and read headlines such as:

Obama popularity rating dips
Obama can drone me if he feels the urge
The cost and efficacy of PelosiCare are further proving to be expanding and subject to more question daily.

The GOP are still idiots….path to citizenship….no wait, I meant to say…just damn.

Obama totally out of character is making some actual phone calls direct to GOP dopes..

Oh and Michelle was seen eating unhealthy in a pizza joint…I still dig her regardless.

josef

March 6th, 2013
5:32 pm

OCCUPATION

I’m going to read that “there you go” as a general comment and not me personally! :-)

I get chided an awful lot here for my take on the Late Misunderstanding, but when you go looking deeper than the textbook version (Yankee Sharia or Southern Halakha, whichever your choice), you get a clear picture of what happens at the personal level by those prosecuting the conflict and with that picture you see the very real, not just possibilities, but probabilities of how little that wonderful ideal “the rule of written law” actually means once you start to say “well, in this case…under these circumstances…” and assorted other such two steps.

getalife

March 6th, 2013
5:38 pm

Don’t declare war against your country and there is nothing to worry about.

Oscar

March 6th, 2013
5:38 pm

The law is a human institution.

William Smith

March 6th, 2013
5:39 pm

With the flip flop that reminds us of Romney it can’t get any better. Oh yes it can . What is his last name.

josef

March 6th, 2013
5:39 pm

Question, and I’m not being facetious, if Bull Connor had had drones? If there had been drones at Kent State? What would Janet Reno have done with some drones at her disposal…? The “what ifs” are endless, but can we afford the risk? Do we really want to give our executive such power?

Oscar

March 6th, 2013
5:40 pm

The War for Southern Independence – led tothe Sons of Cofederate Veterans

josef

March 6th, 2013
5:40 pm

getalife

Tell that to the Cherokee, the Japanese Americans, the Civil Rights Workers…

getalife

March 6th, 2013
5:41 pm

The law for billionaires is different as holder said the banks are too big to prosecute.

You lil people are not too big to prosecute.

Money walks.

josef

March 6th, 2013
5:41 pm

OSCAR

That gris gris probably won’t work since Big Daddy has left the liberal plantation… :-)

Welcome to the Occupation

March 6th, 2013
5:41 pm

Hi josef, yeah thought that might have sounded cryptic. It was a “there you go” of approval. :)

getalife

March 6th, 2013
5:43 pm

josef,

Civil right workers declared war on America?

josef

March 6th, 2013
5:44 pm

WELCOME

That’s how I read it…on second read! I’m still trying to control that jerking knee…! :-)

Oscar

March 6th, 2013
5:44 pm

As for drones, the cat is already out of the bottle, and Hannible has already cast the dye.

They’re here.

Reno could have destroyed the compound with a drone instead of a tank, Don’t see the difference.

josef

March 6th, 2013
5:44 pm

getalife

If you ask the established authorities of a wide swath of America, they did…

TaxPayer

March 6th, 2013
5:45 pm

A bi-partisan bill passes the House

You gotta love the con attempts at humor.

barking frog

March 6th, 2013
5:45 pm

Why does the President have to have specific authority for drones ?
He can order warplanes to shoot down an airliner. How does that
authority not carry over to drones.

Oscar

March 6th, 2013
5:45 pm

Is he in time out?

josef

March 6th, 2013
5:46 pm

OSCAR

True…but can you imagine just how far and wide she COULD have gone…? Somebody say something she didn’t like, and ZAP, no need to call out the guns. Quick, easy, clean and done with…

Oscar

March 6th, 2013
5:46 pm

I know, he’s back at the State House looking for ethics and an ethical member of the legislature.

We may be stuck rambling on for a long while.

Paul

March 6th, 2013
5:48 pm

josef

Frankly, given AG Holder’s conditions, I’m having quite a time coming up with a realistic scenario wherein the president would see the circumstances so extraordinary and necessary to protect the homeland that he would find it necessary under current law to authorize the military to use lethal force within the US.

And yes, I really do think a guy blogging about how he doesn’t like the tyranny of Obama comes anywhere close.

It is rather ironic, though, isn’t it? Back during the waterboarding ruckus Democrats didn’t want anything to do with the hypotheticals of a ticking time bomb that could possibly justify the use of torture in the realm of the Dershowitz hypothetical. Wasn’t realistic at all, couldn’t happen, so it’s pointless.

Now Holder’s doing the same thing. Of course, it was prompted by my nutty Senator Cruz and, not wanting to let the spotlight pass him by, Rand Paul piled on.

But it’s still ironic.

Welcome to the Occupation

March 6th, 2013
5:50 pm

Brosephus: ” I don’t think our military would specifically target our own people unless there was damn good reason to do so. ”

We don’t allow concentrated power in the hands of a few on the “faith” that they’ll not abuse it, we go on the assumption that sooner or later they will.

Paul

March 6th, 2013
5:51 pm

Frankly, I think we have a more realistic problem with drones for surveillance in the hands of local law enforcement types.

Or from nosy neighbors with a kit-built drone with a video camera attached.

Which is why some communities are moving to ban them.

Oscar

March 6th, 2013
5:51 pm

Did Washington get a court order before he ordered the troops intp PA to quell the whiskey rebellion. Anybody want to research that one. Did Lincoln have a court order before he invaded Virginia and started the war?

Jm

March 6th, 2013
5:51 pm

Good job rand Paul

Stevie Ray

March 6th, 2013
5:51 pm

getalife

March 6th, 2013
5:25 pm

Theatre of the absurd…you are defending BO’s drone fuel for the underground idiots, lies and deceit relative to sequester hysteria, his continuance of most of Bush’s policies relative to wire tapping and the like….predictable but…geez

getalife

March 6th, 2013
5:52 pm

josef,

Yes, the police in the south were not peaceful but they won with peaceful protests.

josef

March 6th, 2013
5:53 pm

PAUL

Maybe. It may be. But this sets a precedent. How long before another AG or Holder himself puts in another set of conditions. Like I said to begin with, this is a slippery slope.

And. just eoi, but isn’t the rule of law BASED on hypotheticals to begin with?

TaxPayer

March 6th, 2013
5:54 pm

Why should the fed send in humans armed with shotguns when they have to face down “patriots” armed with assault weapons. Drones are just the latest weapon in an ever-improving government-funded arsenal. Who knows. We might all be purchasing our own little drones from the local WalMart to guard our property any day now. I hear they’re getting cheaper all the time and the technology isn’t really all that top secret dontcha know.

getalife

March 6th, 2013
5:55 pm

stevie,

Presidents never give up power.

You are late to the freedom party when the left protested and you called them unpatriotic terrorist sympathizers.

Zip it hypocrite,.

Stevie Ray

March 6th, 2013
5:55 pm

Next stop, the Equalization of Opportunity Act and the Fair Share Act…if the 1% don’t pay what is needed to do whatever, can they be legally droned?

That being said, there exists no small number of congress folk of both flavors who would not be missed once turned to dust…

getalife

March 6th, 2013
5:55 pm

lil stevie was scared to death of aq and allowed w to steal freedom.

josef

March 6th, 2013
5:56 pm

getalife

I’m not arguing the outcome…I was just responding to the idea that all that would have been necessary (or was for that matter) was to term this, that or the other Joe Shmoe or organization “terrorist” and. wham, bam, thank-you ma’am…due process and rule of law be d*mned…

barking frog

March 6th, 2013
5:56 pm

Call it drones if you want but what we’re talking about is assassination
and we already do it with snipers. No habeas, no Miranda, just a bullet.
I don’t see a drone as any different.

Brosephus™ - Comin' straight out of Compton

March 6th, 2013
5:57 pm

if Bull Connor had had drones? If there had been drones at Kent State? What would Janet Reno have done with some drones at her disposal…? The “what ifs” are endless, but can we afford the risk? Do we really want to give our executive such power?

Bull Connor would have likely ended up dead, as he showed he lacked the self control necessary to have such a tool. Drones at Kent State would have likely led to less feet on the ground. Better surveillance may have kept anybody from dying. The same applies to Reno. Drones allow for better intelligence gathering without risking someone’s life to get close enough to do the same. Drones are not all weapons carrying platforms. Most have cameras and sensors used for gathering intelligence.

————–

We don’t allow concentrated power in the hands of a few on the “faith” that they’ll not abuse it, we go on the assumption that sooner or later they will.

Well, if you have so little faith in your fellow people, maybe we should take the concentrated power of the military out of the hands of the few and give everybody tanks, jets, and guided munitions. After all, we’re gonna assume that sooner or later, they’re gonna get used. We may as well have a fair fight, right?

TaxPayer

March 6th, 2013
5:58 pm

Did someone say concentrated power in the hands of a few. It’s a little late to be fretting over that. The only thing we can do now is cut their taxes and hope they show us some mercy. Right cons. That is your plan, isn’t it.

Stevie Ray

March 6th, 2013
5:58 pm

getalife

March 6th, 2013
5:55 pm

You got me confused with some other fan of yours…duh presidents do reliquish power…expanding it is what is scary especially from the left. If you can find a single time I ever referred to protests by the left as anything more than poorly organized bring it on…

Keep the billboards coming….rah rah go obama go….you can do no wrong! Hip hip hoooray!

Shallow is the pond making loudest splashes grasshopper..

barking frog

March 6th, 2013
5:59 pm

Taxpayer,
radio controlled aircraft have been around for years, just
no application for police or military….

getalife

March 6th, 2013
6:00 pm

rand said he would do the same thing under w he did not unite with the left when they protested.

He is full of it.

josef

March 6th, 2013
6:00 pm

GOOD FIGHT

That one on the Louisiana deed thingie…it REALLY has been a problem down that way.

Paul

March 6th, 2013
6:01 pm

josef

The only precedent I see is not really a precedent but a long-standing tradition: nutty Republican senators initiating topics to make it seem like a Democratic president is a militaristic power-grabber.

After all, if I recall correctly, it all began with a series of questions from Sen Cruz, wonderboy of the Texas neocons.

As to your second question, yeah, there are hypotheticals, then there are hypotheticals. As I noted with the torture thing: Pres Obama did not seek to codify the prohibition thru legislation. It was an executive order. And as we all know, those can be changed at will, so he was keeping the options open for the Executive branch.

I just don’t see the House or Senate with the stomach to try to legislate prohibitions based upon what some American in concert with foreign agents might do to kill Americans. The president could just leave it up to local law enforcement with FBI assistance. They’re pretty good at making sure the suspects who’ve killed cops never make it to court.

getalife

March 6th, 2013
6:01 pm

stevie,

You know I blogged during the w disaster and I know what you cons did.

Own it.

josef

March 6th, 2013
6:02 pm

BROSEPHUS

You’re far more the optimist than I am, and I though I had written the book on it… :-)

josef

March 6th, 2013
6:04 pm

PAUL

Ditto my @ 6:02 to Brosephus… :-)

barking frog

March 6th, 2013
6:05 pm

josef
the President still has his hand on the nuclear arsenal,
this seems like a small thing compared to trusting him
with that authority.

They call me MISTER JamVet.

March 6th, 2013
6:07 pm

Did Lincoln have a court order before he invaded Virginia and started the war?

Hello?

Lincoln did not start the war. He ended it.

February 1861 — The South Seizes Federal Forts.

When President Buchanan — Lincoln’s predecessor — refused to surrender southern federal forts to the seceding states, southern state troops seized them, along with Federal Court Houses, U.S. Treasury mints, post offices and U.S. armories. At Fort Sumter, South Carolina troops repulsed a supply ship trying to reach federal forces based in the fort. The ship was forced to return to New York, its supplies undelivered.

April 1861 — Attack on Fort Sumter.

When President Lincoln planned to send supplies to Fort Sumter, he alerted the state in advance, in an attempt to avoid hostilities. South Carolina, however, feared a trick; the commander of the fort, Robert Anderson, was asked to surrender immediately. Anderson offered to surrender, but only after he had exhausted his supplies. His offer was rejected, and on April 12, the Civil War began with shots fired on the fort. Fort Sumter eventually was surrendered to South Carolina.

The secessionists fired on Fort Sumter and attempted to kill American troops. THAT is what started the war.

Welcome to the Occupation

March 6th, 2013
6:08 pm

Paul: ” They’re pretty good at making sure the suspects who’ve killed cops never make it to court.”

You mean as in the recent LA incident?

Paul

March 6th, 2013
6:09 pm

josef

cue Nurse Nellie singing “Cockeyed Optimist”!

you old EOI’er, you -

getalife

March 6th, 2013
6:10 pm

“The secessionists fired on Fort Sumter and attempted to kill American troops. THAT is what started the war.”

The Yankees crushed them.

Paul

March 6th, 2013
6:11 pm

Welcome

As I noted, they think the fire was from a tear gas canister. But if he wouldn’t have succumbed to the tear gas, I doubt he would have made it out alive. And he shouldn’t have. Guy’s killed, he’s in a firefight, law enforcement makes it into the house and they and the guy lock eyballs, each with their weapons…

I’d suggest anyone who thinks the cops should yell “We’re police. Put down your weapon” should be with the cops in the front of the line repeating those words while looking at the guy’s assault weapon pointed at him.

Stevie Ray

March 6th, 2013
6:13 pm

Brosephus™ – Comin’ straight out of Compton

March 6th, 2013
5:57 pm

The supposition that Kent State may have been less deadly if it was known by the protesters that their freedom of protest was subject to survelliance from the sky is a non starter for me.

I need to learn more about why this ruling was made…collossal political mistake and against the very grain of all that Bush hatred…almost Dick Chenyesque….Second term hoax…this guy has a terrific political position and like the GOP, he is doing his best to screwed it up…maybe by design…

BO, despite promises and promises, continues to condone phone tapping and other mainstays of Bush era that were anathema to treason by the anti Bush crowd of the day…

Doggone/GA

March 6th, 2013
6:13 pm

“We might all be purchasing our own little drones from the local WalMart to guard our property any day now”

Heck, with a little bit of money and some neccessary electronics and weapons I could make one right now. It wouldn’t be fancy, but it would work.

Paul

March 6th, 2013
6:14 pm

getalife 6:10

And still some of them haven’t learned.

“States’ rights bills surge in GOP states”

Read more here: http://www.star-telegram.com/2013/03/05/4661840/states-rights-bills-surge-in-gop.html#storylink=misearch#storylink=cpy

josef

March 6th, 2013
6:16 pm

And here is where the, well, silliness comes in. Instead of re-fighting the Wah-uh, why not look at what happened in its prosecution relative to the insignificance of the rule of law, the supremacy of the Constitution, etc. etc.

Using the old saw that “the ends justifies the means” just comes down to who has the most and the best aim with the drones.

FROG

Okay, I’ll play…so we should extend the right of the President to nuke yo citizen ass riding down the road between Dubuque and Cedar Rapids because he unilaterally decided that he didn’t like you and you are a terrorist? ..

Keep Up the Good Fight!

March 6th, 2013
6:16 pm

josef, many states have an outside 50-60 year rule for title abstracts. So while there may be problems (and often common in many rural areas), its not 100’s of years, its not the FHA. Its title companies (which are private enterprise).

Paul, you can get a drone from Brookstone with a camera for a $100-$300 and control it with your phone. A peeper’s dream :D

Doggone/GA

March 6th, 2013
6:16 pm

“Drones at Kent State would have likely led to less feet on the ground. Better surveillance may have kept anybody from dying”

Not at Kent State it wouldn’t have. Kent State was a stain we can NEVER live down. The protesters were peaceful, and they were no closer to the soldiers than 1/4 mile. I don’t care how good you are, no one can throw a rock 1/4 mile. Whoever gave that order to fire has blood on his hands….but so do the soldiers who obeyed that order.

And at least one of those who died wasn’t even involved in the protest. Just happened to be in the wrong place at the wrong time.

Kent State killed any certainty I ever had that our government has our best interests at heart.

Paul

March 6th, 2013
6:16 pm

Stevie Ray

“The supposition that Kent State may have been less deadly if it was known by the protesters that their freedom of protest was subject to survelliance from the sky is a non starter for me.”

I took Brosephus’ point to be that if drones were available the tragedy might not have happened because the scared, unprofessional, trigger-happy national guardsmen wouldn’t have been on campus.

josef

March 6th, 2013
6:17 pm

DOGGONE

Ssshhh…you liable to wind up on a hit list talking like that… :-)

Oscar

March 6th, 2013
6:17 pm

I see you guys are still buying the yankee written history about the war for southern independence. Time to start thinking for yourseles. But that would be asking to much.

Paul

March 6th, 2013
6:18 pm

josef 6:18

Good points.

I was under the impression a whole bunch of case law came out of that period that guides actions today.

barking frog

March 6th, 2013
6:18 pm

josef
Okay, I’ll play…so we should extend the right of the President to nuke yo citizen ass riding down the road between Dubuque and Cedar Rapids because he unilaterally decided that he didn’t like you and you are a terrorist? ..
…………………………………………………………………………………………
far as I know he can do that already but somehow it seems he can’t
do it with a radio controlled aircraft…

josef

March 6th, 2013
6:18 pm

DOGGONE

“Kent State killed any certainty I ever had that our government has our best interests at heart.”

Yep. Me, too.

getalife

March 6th, 2013
6:20 pm

Paul,

They are passing all kinds of crap in the house but the senate just laughs at them.

The dems walked out of a committee meeting today in protest.

Our President should spend time with his family instead of trying to reach out to the unhinged gop again tonight.

Paul

March 6th, 2013
6:20 pm

Oscar

The North won. God was on their side. Case closed.

No matter how much consternation it causes southern evangelicals.

;-)

barking frog

March 6th, 2013
6:21 pm

The federal government was not involved at Kent State.

Doggone/GA

March 6th, 2013
6:21 pm

“Yep. Me, too.”

What it left me with is it’s always a bigger surprise to me when the do the right thing than it is when they don’t

josef

March 6th, 2013
6:21 pm

GOOD FIGHT

Louisiana is different. It still operates under French Law in those arenas…

Doggone/GA

March 6th, 2013
6:23 pm

“The federal government was not involved at Kent State.”

Government is government. What can happen at the state level can happen at the federal level. I don’t trust ANY government to do the right thing.

getalife

March 6th, 2013
6:24 pm

I don’t think the South will ever get over losing the civil war and it is part of their culture to be Independent.

Funny thing was that w could steal all their freedom and they cheered him on and were very patriotic.

Keep Up the Good Fight!

March 6th, 2013
6:24 pm

so we should extend the right of the President to nuke yo citizen ass riding down the road between Dubuque and Cedar Rapids

You have something against Iowa City? :P

josef

March 6th, 2013
6:25 pm

DOGGONE
@ 6:21

Yep. Me, too.

OSCAR

Quite frankly, you’re farting in a fan factory…ignorance is bliss, you know. Southern Halakha, Yankee Sharia…doesn’t matter your orthodoxy, question it and get an inquisition… :-)

Keep Up the Good Fight!

March 6th, 2013
6:25 pm

josef, I’ve done a few LA land deals. The names may differ but the concepts are similar.

barking frog

March 6th, 2013
6:26 pm

Government is government. What can happen at the state level can happen at the federal level. I don’t trust ANY government to do the right thing.
……………………………………………………………………………
My experience is that the government almost always does
the right thing and most bad things it does is by mistake
or omission.

Welcome to the Occupation

March 6th, 2013
6:27 pm

Barking frog: “The federal government was not involved at Kent State.”

Not true.

barking frog

March 6th, 2013
6:29 pm

Welcome
well enlighten me.

Paul

March 6th, 2013
6:29 pm

getalife

“Funny thing was that w could steal all their freedom and they cheered him on and were very patriotic.”

I do like your take on things.

If only w had been a Democrat they might not have cheered him on -

indigo

March 6th, 2013
6:30 pm

Holder was asked on of those “is it possible under any circumstances” questions about drones. Since almost anything is at least theoretically
possible, he answered in kind.

Naturally, paranoid cons jumped on his answer and are now searching the skys.

http://www.cnn.com/2013/03/05/politics/obama-drones-cia

They call me MISTER JamVet.

March 6th, 2013
6:31 pm

I provided the facts. They are incontrovertible. Lincoln did not start the war by invading Virginia.

Misinformation, no matter from whom, is still misi