Jeb Bush has a principled stand on immigration. Several, in fact.
Last summer, Jeb Bush was in favor of offering illegal immigrants a path to citizenship. As he told Charlie Rose:
“You have to deal with this issue. You can’t ignore it, and so either a path to citizenship, which I would support — and that does put me probably out of the mainstream of most conservatives — or a path to legalization, a path to residency of some kind.”
In his new book, “Immigration Wars: Forging an American Solution”, Bush comes out in stalwart opposition to citizenship.
“It is absolutely vital to the integrity of our immigration system that actions have consequences — in this case, that those who violated the law can remain but cannot obtain the cherished fruits of citizenship. To do otherwise would signal once again that people who circumvent the system can still obtain the full benefits of American citizenship.”
Today on “Morning Joe”, Bush was back to his initial position. Kind of … He repeatedly stressed that the book was written last year, as if something had happened recently to alter what in the book seems to be a strong, principle-based opposition to a path to citizenship. He also argued that a path to legalization would not create a magnet for future illegal immigration, while a path to citizenship somehow would.
“If you don’t have a difference between a path to citizenship or a path to legalization, you’re going to create a magnet going forward for more illegal immigration. So going forward — we wrote this last year — going forward, if there is a difference, if you can craft that in law where you can have a path to citizenship where there isn’t an incentive for people to come illegally, I’m for it. I don’t have a problem with that.”
A couple of points:
1.) The Bush flip-flop-flip has angered veterans of Mitt Romney’s campaign, which last year felt stranded on unpopular ground with the candidate’s “self-deportation” approach.
“Where the hell was this Jeb Bush during the campaign?” one advisor told the Miami Herald. “He spent all this time criticizing Romney and it turns out he has basically the same position. So he wants people to go back to their country and apply for citizenship? Well, that’s self deportation. We got creamed for talking about that. And now Jeb is saying the same thing.”
2.) The distinction that Bush attempts to draw between legalization and citizenship in fact has little real consequence. Those who have immigrated here illegally were drawn by jobs, the chance to escape Third World living conditions or greater opportunity for their children. Getting U.S. citizenship was way, way down on their list. A nice possibility, maybe, but hardly a deciding factor.
The notion that a path to legalization would be a less powerful magnet than a path to citizenship makes no sense, and Bush is smart enough to know it. But when you’re caught tacking to the right when the political winds are blowing left, and when you have ambitions of becoming the third consecutive Republican president named Bush, you have to scramble a bit.
– Jay Bookman
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josef
March 5th, 2013
6:48 pm
TBS
Ah, MJ…a classic American success story…only in America can you be born a poor, Black boy and die a rich, old White woman…
Nero
March 5th, 2013
6:50 pm
Yay! DOW hits record high. Country still chronically unemployed/underemployed. Greeeaaaattt!!!!
TBS
March 5th, 2013
6:50 pm
josef
heard that one before, but it is a great joke
F. Sinkwich
March 5th, 2013
6:52 pm
“Dow hits record high to prove you are full of it.”
That’s good, although no one has ever identified any affirmative action O’bozo took to effect this result. It happened in spite of him. It’s a rooster and the sunrise thing.
Have you asked any of those 8 million or so people who had jobs before O’bozo came to office but no longer do how they feel about it?
Didn’t think so.
josef
March 5th, 2013
6:52 pm
TBS
Yeah. It’s an oldie and I know I’m repeating myself…but, isn’t that protocol here?
Jay
March 5th, 2013
6:54 pm
“Perhaps Rodman is available??”
You mean the master of ding-dong diplomacy?
TBS
March 5th, 2013
6:54 pm
“but, isn’t that protocol here?”
You been here longer than I and even I know that
They call me MISTER JamVet.
March 5th, 2013
6:54 pm
get, that’s not a bad idea. Clint and Charlton Heston could run.
None of my beeswax, but feeding the Andy troll?
Really?
Christine’s theme song…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eVXqocPAz1k
josef
March 5th, 2013
6:55 pm
SINKWICH
“Have you asked any of those 8 million or so people who had jobs before O’bozo came to office but no longer do how they feel about it?”
I thought they were getting rich off the government dole.
Fred ™
March 5th, 2013
6:59 pm
but josef, I do not think he is speaking his mind on that topic, he is just deliberately making crap up. And really, really dumbing down the meaning of the term “racist,” if that is even possible these days.
I have posted the sht TWICE for you now dB. I can’t help it if you didn;’t read it of have consciously decided NOT to believe what the MAN HIMSELF, Maulana Karenga, had to say about it.
Keep your head firmly inserted in your ass. I don’t really give a fat rat’s butt. NO ONE in the WORLD except a few, VERY FEW Black separatists even celebrate that crap except a couple of white wannabes like you. I’m done with this. Go hump someone else’s leg with this stupid racist MADE UP holiday that Black people WORLD WIDE reject.
Let me clue you in on something else Chief. Only in the US do dumb asses refer to black people as “African American” in the rest of the world black people are referred to as ……. come on……. wait for it……… BLACK. Even by black people.
I just loved hearing some ditzy broad, I think it was FOX 5 years ago refer to a BLACK South African as an “African American South African.”
Just damn. Political correctness gone wild from a wannabe…….
F. Sinkwich
March 5th, 2013
7:03 pm
“I thought they were getting rich off the government dole.”
Who ever said that, josef?
You’re making stuff up, aren’t you?
Nero
March 5th, 2013
7:03 pm
Yeah that 401K is doing fantastic what with your new part-time hours due to Obamacare. I feel like celebrating.
Welcome to the Occupation
March 5th, 2013
7:04 pm
“That’s good, although no one has ever identified any affirmative action O’bozo took to effect this result. It happened in spite of him. It’s a rooster and the sunrise thing.”
Lol. Hilarious.
Keep ‘em coming, Sinkie! You’re on a roll.
Nero
March 5th, 2013
7:05 pm
getalife is an empty chair.
Fred ™
March 5th, 2013
7:05 pm
Who will represent our country at that head of state’s funeral? Will we do the diplomatically proper thing and send someone? We do, after all, have diplomatic relations with the Republic of Venezuela.
John Kerry, Secretary of State. Besides, he’s expendable in my book lol.
josef
March 5th, 2013
7:06 pm
FRED
You make some good points there…it’s like that “Native American” thingie. As Unmentionable says, “as soon as I hear it, I know we’re in for a stroll down the Trail of Crocodile Tears.”
I had a student one year who wrote an excellent research paper on the experiences of the black Europeans under the Fascists. All through it he talked about the German, Hungarian, French, Dutch, Italian, “African Americans!” Oy!
Keep Up the Good Fight!
March 5th, 2013
7:06 pm
You mean the master of ding-dong diplomacy?
Now Jay, you leave Hostess out of this. Is that a variations of Nixon’s ping pong diplomacy?
Welcome to the Occupation
March 5th, 2013
7:06 pm
“You mean the master of ding-dong diplomacy?”
I hadn’t heard of that type. What is it exactly?
josef
March 5th, 2013
7:08 pm
SINKWICH
I’m just trying to keep up…
Jm
March 5th, 2013
7:09 pm
Siyanara Chavez
Nero
March 5th, 2013
7:11 pm
Welcome,
Ding Dong Diplomacy..See John Kerry
barking frog
March 5th, 2013
7:11 pm
Jm
Siyanara Chavez
…………………………………………..
you’ll probably see him again..
Nero
March 5th, 2013
7:12 pm
Adios Comrade Chavez.
Jm
March 5th, 2013
7:14 pm
Frog
Nope
Socialists don’t go to heaven
F. Sinkwich
March 5th, 2013
7:15 pm
“Adios Comrade Chavez.”
O’bozo wept.
Fred ™
March 5th, 2013
7:16 pm
I know the weirdo’s will call me all sorts of names, but I’m serious about John Kerry going to Venezuela. If we can do ANYTHING to try to repair relations with them why not try it? Was Hugo a jack ass? Sure. but will the new guy be one? Unknown. Will the new guy be strong enoguh to remain in power? We don’t know. The CIA may have some ideas, but they ain’t sharing them with me.
The right wing nutcases seem to think that being FRIENDS with foreign nations populated by folks that aren’t WHITE, Southern Baptists is some how evil. Well except China for some damn reason……. Let’s GIVE peace a chance. Sure, keep our holster open but at least take the gun out of their heads and holster it. We can always quick draw if we HAVE to.
I’ve been to war before. It’s not fun. Let’s try something else.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AwNg4lHFj7I
Rightwing troll
March 5th, 2013
7:16 pm
Vote for Jeb… Because we want that $1.80/gal gas again…
Fred ™
March 5th, 2013
7:17 pm
josef: I hear you on the “native American” thing. LOL reading the dialog between you and dB, I would think I wasn’t the ONLY person today to have had a post removed……
barking frog
March 5th, 2013
7:17 pm
Jm
Socialists don’t go to heaven
……………………………………..
Capitalists have an even harder time getting there.
something about love of money…
josef
March 5th, 2013
7:18 pm
JM
“Socialists don’t go to heaven”
According to Mark and Luke they do….
Jm
March 5th, 2013
7:19 pm
Frog
Capitalists go to heaven because they improve the human condition
Thieves do not however
Jm
March 5th, 2013
7:20 pm
Josef
It’s an absurd discussion
But frog started it so I’m just playing along
Rightwing troll
March 5th, 2013
7:21 pm
Jesus was the ultimate socialist…
josef
March 5th, 2013
7:21 pm
FRED
Been a while since I’ve been sent to Big Daddy’s lower 40. But, then, I’ve been trying to be nice…
Rightwing troll
March 5th, 2013
7:23 pm
Venezuela has oil, we could just invade… We’d be greeted with as liberators. Their oil would pay for it all…
F. Sinkwich
March 5th, 2013
7:24 pm
“The right wing nutcases seem to think that being FRIENDS with foreign nations populated by folks that aren’t WHITE, Southern Baptists is some how evil.”
Nice, Freddie. Got any names?
Nope.
Freddie is a racebaiter.
Who knew?
Redneck Convert (R--and proud of it)
March 5th, 2013
7:25 pm
Well, dang. We was awful close to getting the inside scoop on how they elect a pope, if the big dummy never wore a black hat instead of that red skull thingy and the wrong belt and a robe about five sizes too short.
http://www.foxnews.com/world/2013/03/05/cardinal-impostor-caught-sneaking-into-vatican-conclave/?intcmp=HPBucket
Fred ™
March 5th, 2013
7:26 pm
LOL josef, not you. You replied to something from dB that I can’t seem to find lol.
josef
March 5th, 2013
7:26 pm
JM
“Thieves do not however”
So, who was it that Cuzzin JC was talking to when he was reported to have said:
“And Jesus said unto him, Verily I say unto thee, Today shalt thou be with me in paradise.”
–Luke 23:43,
USA Patriot
March 5th, 2013
7:28 pm
Fred, don’t disagree w/ your take on Venezuela, what do we have to lose.
On another topic, what do you think about North Korea saying the cease fire is over on 3/11/13? Targeted strikes in the south?
Not a setup, I respect your input. Just curious.
Rightwing troll
March 5th, 2013
7:29 pm
Chavez and the bat Shiite crazy wing nuts have more in common than Chavez and Obama… They both hate the US government and that uppity colored guy in the whitehouse…
They call me MISTER JamVet.
March 5th, 2013
7:29 pm
Yeah, I’m still PO’d that Michelle B and Newt G didn’t win the whole damn shootin’ match.
She said she get gas down to $2/gallon and he said $2.50/gallon.
Had they won and put their brainy heads together, we could be driving around right now for about a buck, thirteen a gallon.
Damn shame there are so many stupid people in this country who won’t get off the plantation…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ts9nmYUIlB8
Fred ™
March 5th, 2013
7:30 pm
It’s an absurd discussion
But frog started it so I’m just playing along
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q0zGXZa2dG0
Soothsayer
March 5th, 2013
7:33 pm
Well, we’ve got Emperor Nero (or is that Cryberius?), Fish Sandwich, and Jm all lending their expertise. What could go wrong?
Chavez was a communist. He did a lot for the poor and the disenfranchised in Venezuela. But, wait! Our capitalist system is so much better, right?
We ship their jobs to China and then curse them for being “takers” and “parasites.”
We have allowed Corporations to run our country. We live in a monopolistic economy. Our “democracy” is a farce. Our elections choose which politicos will represent the corporations interests.
Yeah, we’ve got it much better than Venezuelans. This capitalism is where it’s at!
F. Sinkwich
March 5th, 2013
7:33 pm
“She said she get gas down to $2/gallon and he said $2.50/gallon.”
And they said O’bozo wanted $4 or more, and would embrace policies to get us there.
And they were correct, huh?
Fred ™
March 5th, 2013
7:34 pm
USA Patriot: If they open fire, nuke their asses. Not literally a nuke, but bomb the hell out of them. They can’t stop us and we have the technology to really make them pay. We don’t to send troops, just ordinance.
Soothsayer
March 5th, 2013
7:35 pm
josef: that there jesus was Jewish feller, right?
same 'ol, same 'ol principled stand
March 5th, 2013
7:37 pm
Congressional Black Caucus members, who are all Democrats, flipped out the race card in the talks on the sequester Monday and said minorities will be unfairly and disproportionately impacted.
“Sequestration will impact everyone, but it will have a particularly harmful effect on communities of color who were hit first and worst by the great recession, and have yet to significantly feel the effects of the recovery,” said Rep. Barbara Lee, in The Hill.
Read more: http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2013/mar/5/democrats-pull-out-race-card-sequester-game/#ixzz2MiQDHPPU
USA Patriot
March 5th, 2013
7:38 pm
Fred: Yep. Have a brother there on “high alert” based on some 28 year old calling the shots. No more troops needed, we have too many there, and, couple of boats that have pretty good sites.
Thanks, for your response.
They call me MISTER JamVet.
March 5th, 2013
7:38 pm
The North Koreans?
They are to China what Israel is to us.
They ain’t even gonna sneeze without approval…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q64aVDA-s3U
Welcome to the Occupation
March 5th, 2013
7:38 pm
“Socialists don’t go to heaven”
Doesn’t matter.
The “heaven” socialists are interested in is on this earth.
F. Sinkwich
March 5th, 2013
7:38 pm
“Chavez was a communist. He did a lot for the poor and the disenfranchised in Venezuela.”
Sooth luvs himself commies and O’bozo.
Once again, who knew?
Jack ®
March 5th, 2013
7:39 pm
Jeb Bush is a fine man and I like him. But he should just write his books and stay off teevee and out of politics because liberals cannot deal with a principled man as evidenced in the last election.
Soothsayer
March 5th, 2013
7:40 pm
Jam-man, I can’t believe you played that! I used to play that over and over at the old Waffle House in Sandy Springs! LOVE IT!
They call me MISTER JamVet.
March 5th, 2013
7:42 pm
Sequestration will impact everyone, but it will have a particularly harmful effect on communities of color who were hit first and worst by the great recession, and have yet to significantly feel the effects of the recovery,” said Rep. Barbara Lee, in The Hill.
Duh!
Ya think?!
same 'ol, same 'ol principled stand
March 5th, 2013
7:43 pm
The Obama administration’s position is: We promised the sky would fall if the sequester happened. So don’t do anything that will reduce its consequences — even when it’s possible.
======
“…So it is our opinion that however you manage that reduction, you need to make sure you are not contradicting what we said the impact would be.”…”
Read more: http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2013/mar/5/email-tells-feds-make-sequester-painful-promised/#ixzz2MiRg6lZP
getalife
March 5th, 2013
7:43 pm
Socialism is still saving the bankers and capitalism so you look like fools.
w was a socialist for the banks too.
That makes you a socialist too filky.
F. Sinkwich
March 5th, 2013
7:44 pm
Headline:
“World ends tomorrow. Minorities affected most”
Bwaahahahahahahaha
barking frog
March 5th, 2013
7:45 pm
Fred
Interesting video, which is which ?
getalife
March 5th, 2013
7:47 pm
Also, you look like fools saying the cuts are no problem.
They just started and it is for ten years.
The market is propped up to take the cuts, the American people not so much.
Brosephus™ - Comin' straight out of Compton
March 5th, 2013
7:47 pm
“Sequestration will impact everyone, but it will have a particularly harmful effect on communities of color who were hit first and worst by the great recession, and have yet to significantly feel the effects of the recovery,” said Rep. Barbara Lee, in The Hill.
Guess somebody at the Washington Times doesn’t actually understand what encompasses a community of color. Seems as though their neighbors have a better grasp of reality.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/local/education/sequester-related-education-cuts-hitting-schools-on-reservations-military-bases/2013/03/05/0887fed4-8506-11e2-98a3-b3db6b9ac586_story.html
The Window Rock School District, in the heart of the Navajo nation in Arizona, is proposing the unthinkable: closing three of its seven schools as a result of the federal sequester.
The schools are among 1,600 public schools on Native American reservations and military bases that are feeling the impact of federal cuts now, months before the rest of the country’s classrooms see the effect of reduced dollars from Washington.
[...]
Public education is largely funded by state and local governments; the federal government pays about 10 percent of the costs. Federal dollars are largely concentrated on poor children and those with disabilities, and the amounts are determined according to the number of children in each category in every state.
But two exceptions are schools on Indian reservations and military bases, which receive a larger share of their funds from Washington as compensation for the fact that they can’t raise funds from local property taxes. For example, the federal government pays 60 percent, or $14.7 million, of Window Rock School District’s $24.3 million annual budget.
[...]
In addition to funds for poor and disabled children, schools on federal lands receive a third stream of money known as Impact Aid. Under the sequester, they are seeing cuts to all three categories.
So, the “people of color” who always get screwed over are the first ones to get the “no vaseline” treatment on this one. Same as the Violence Against Women Act, the people who first settled the land get treated worse than dog sh*t on the bottom of a shoe.
getalife
March 5th, 2013
7:48 pm
“principled man as evidenced in the last election.”
True, he won twice Jack.
Fred ™
March 5th, 2013
7:48 pm
USA Patriot: Just as folks forget that China doesn’t have a naval force to speak of and an Air Force to even begin to compete with ours, N. Korea is backwards. Much of the Country doesn’t have effective electricity. What are they going to do? Invade the South? How? Drop the bridges and they are stuck.
As far as China? When they can invade Taiwan I’ll start to take notice.
Soothsayer
March 5th, 2013
7:49 pm
“Sooth luvs himself commies and O’bozo.”
No, Fish Sandwich, I don’t love Communism. It is usually accompanied by a brutal dictatorship like Chavez’s. And, no, I’m not particularly enamored with Obama.
But, this whole notion that Capitalism is the answer to everyone’s prayers is ludicrous. It’s just as brutal, if not more so, than Communism.
In many respects, he’s King Dumbass’s the First’s 3rd term. But he’s WA-A-A-A-A-AY better than any conceivable Republican candidate.
Remember this, Obama works within the constraints of the corporate fascism that rules this country. No matter what, though, you, me, all of us get focked.
Doggone/GA
March 5th, 2013
7:49 pm
“Jesus was the ultimate socialist”
Actually, no he wasn’t He left no directives about the ownership of the means of production that I can remember. Some of the churches that developed after his death were closer to communism than to socialism
getalife
March 5th, 2013
7:53 pm
Dang shame because the border was secure and they are releasing the immigrants.
Welcome to the Occupation
March 5th, 2013
7:54 pm
Statement From Former U.S. President Jimmy Carter on the Death of Hugo Chavez
Rosalynn and I extend our condolences to the family of Hugo Chávez Frías. We met Hugo Chávez when he was campaigning for president in 1998 and The Carter Center was invited to observe elections for the first time in Venezuela. We returned often, for the 2000 elections, and then to facilitate dialogue during the political conflict of 2002-2004. We came to know a man who expressed a vision to bring profound changes to his country to benefit especially those people who had felt neglected and marginalized. Although we have not agreed with all of the methods followed by his government, we have never doubted Hugo Chávez’s commitment to improving the lives of millions of his fellow countrymen.
[...]
http://www.cartercenter.org/news/pr/hugo-chavez-030513.html#.UTaS-irC3f8.twitter
Tundra Dude
March 5th, 2013
7:54 pm
Josef:
All through it he talked about the German, Hungarian, French, Dutch, Italian, “African Americans!” Oy!
HeHeHe….
Whatever happened to negroes….?
Trivia: As a merchant mariner, I visited 4 seaports in South Africa during apartheid. Negroes were referred to as Blankes….signs everywhere, on bus benches, restaurants, on the beach,
“Net Blankes” (no blacks)
The light-skinned were upgraded to Coloured, and given special privileges.
Jm
March 5th, 2013
7:57 pm
“Thou shalt not steal”
Apparently Jesus’ father was a capitalist
barking frog
March 5th, 2013
7:59 pm
Jm
Apparently Jesus’ father was a capitalist
………………………………………………….
He was a carpenter. probably a union member…
Normal, plain and simple...
March 5th, 2013
8:01 pm
“Socialists don’t go to heaven”
Said it once and I’ll say it again. I’d rather be in Hell with my friends than in Heaven with strangers…
godless heathen - owner of many things he does not need
March 5th, 2013
8:02 pm
All through it he talked about the German, Hungarian, French, Dutch, Italian, “African Americans!” Oy!
I’ve also heard of African-American Africans.
Normal, plain and simple...
March 5th, 2013
8:03 pm
“Apparently Jesus’ father was a capitalist”
I’d rather think he was an alien…saw a good show on History Channel 2 about aliens and the Bible. Made a lot m ore sense to me after that…
Jm
March 5th, 2013
8:04 pm
Jm
Apparently Jesus’ father was a capitalist
………………………………………………….
He was a carpenter. probably a union member…
—–
Non believer
Normal, plain and simple...
March 5th, 2013
8:06 pm
osef
March 5th, 2013
7:26 pm
The dune on one of the other crosses…right?
barking frog
March 5th, 2013
8:08 pm
Jm
Non believer
………………………………..
carpenters ? or unions ?
Doggone/GA
March 5th, 2013
8:08 pm
“The dune on one of the other crosses”
I thought it was the other way around.
josef
March 5th, 2013
8:08 pm
TUNDRA
At one time Louisiana (and the French Caribbean) had 64 racial classifications. They finally got it down to 16 and then to eight. The Occupation though simplified matters…anything not “pure white” was Negro. It made the occupation so much simpler, so simple in fact that they made sure to make it nice and legal with Plessy v Ferguson!
godless heathen - owner of many things he does not need
March 5th, 2013
8:09 pm
Said it once and I’ll say it again. I’d rather be in Hell with my friends than in Heaven with strangers…
+1
godless heathen - owner of many things he does not need
March 5th, 2013
8:11 pm
Apparently Jesus’ father was a capitalist
I dunno about that but we know he wasn’t getting any at home.
Soothsayer
March 5th, 2013
8:15 pm
[T]he American economy developed into a variant of corporatism or “tripartism,” an economic fascism defined by formal collusion between certain key interests and various arms of the state. “Corporatism,” writes Higgs, “faces the problem of factions directly; in effect, it resolves the problem of the people versus the interests by forthrightly declaring that the interests, when properly organized and channeled, are the people” Like every permutation of the authoritarian idea, the corporatism described by Higgs attempts to submerge the individual within the anatomy of the leviathan state—of which we must now regard many nominally “private” actors as a part.
These firms, in their partnership with the state, are “granted a deliberate, representational monopoly” as payment for a level of control exercised by government. The Power Elite [--] an intermeshed elite made up of a “political directorate,” the “warlords” of the military establishment, and “corporate chieftains” at the helm of Big Business bureaucracies.
Hardly resulting from the legitimate free market defended by libertarians, the social and economic problems and crises we see all around us are in fact the moldering fruits of elite statism. And war, as both the engine of an entire economic paradigm and its attendant psychological and sociological substructure, has been the American state’s most preferred expedient, burdening peaceful, productive society with class rule.
The permanent war economy, the unremitting exercise in plunder that now makes up a terrifyingly large portion of the economy at large, must necessarily poise itself upon antisocial state-worship.
“Fear is the principle of all despotic government, and therefore despots make war their first study and delight.” The existence of a corporate command-and-control economy, whose configuration grows out of layered state interventions, depends crucially on popular attitudes regarding the state.
Only a public trusting of elite judgment and expertise would abide a system built on just the kinds of subjugation that the American ruling elite hypocritically claimed to defy in two world wars.
Am I the only person on this blog who reads this kind of shyte? WTF do the rest of you idiots do with your time?
Jm
March 5th, 2013
8:15 pm
Frog
You say Jesus dad was a carpenter, not god
Non-believer you
godless heathen - owner of many things he does not need
March 5th, 2013
8:16 pm
http://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/2013/03/05/sears-jcpenney-reportedly-pull-advertising-from-saturday-night-live-over-jesus/
Sears and JCPenney are advertising on SNL??
Know your market.
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
March 5th, 2013
8:16 pm
Jesus, the missing years.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BzjM_uf-q0c
josef
March 5th, 2013
8:17 pm
Heathen
Oh, I dunno…looking at the scriptures, he seemed to have been getting a good bit. Cuzzin JC had a passel of siblings…
Doggone/GA
March 5th, 2013
8:17 pm
“You say Jesus dad was a carpenter, not god”
he said Jesus Father was a carpenter
F. Sinkwich
March 5th, 2013
8:18 pm
Jimmy Carter? Really?
“…we have never doubted Hugo Chávez’s commitment to improving the lives of millions of his fellow countrymen.”
Clueless. As always.
Jm
March 5th, 2013
8:19 pm
Father
Dad
Potato
Potato
Silly libs
Normal, plain and simple...
March 5th, 2013
8:19 pm
Dude not dune…gawd, I’m type challenged.
barking frog
March 5th, 2013
8:20 pm
Jm
I think Joseph was married to Mary and as the child
was a product of the marriage then Joseph was the
father.
godless heathen - owner of many things he does not need
March 5th, 2013
8:20 pm
http://youtu.be/v_sWk6rmTCU
josef
March 5th, 2013
8:20 pm
SOOTH
Was he Jewish? Of course…you know the old saw, how do we know he was? He lived at home until he was 30, worked for his fathe, thought his mother was a virgin and she thought he was G-d…
Doggone/GA
March 5th, 2013
8:21 pm
“Cuzzin JC had a passel of siblings”
Well, if you believe the Catholic Church they were brothers and sister “in spirit” – not in the flesh. Mary supposedly died a virgin
Jm
March 5th, 2013
8:21 pm
NPR has a positive review of Chavez’s many talents and capabilities
No kidding
So absurd
Normal, plain and simple...
March 5th, 2013
8:21 pm
Hells bells, god could be a carpenter if he wanted to. Shoot, he was a burning bush once…speaking of a burning bush, just wait W, just wait…
godless heathen - owner of many things he does not need
March 5th, 2013
8:22 pm
Oh, I dunno…looking at the scriptures, he seemed to have been getting a good bit. Cuzzin JC had a passel of siblings…
He was a Mormon?
Doggone/GA
March 5th, 2013
8:22 pm
“you know the old saw”
Josef…darn! I had forgotten ALL about that one!
F. Sinkwich
March 5th, 2013
8:23 pm
“Am I the only person on this blog who reads this kind of shyte?”
Apparently. You must have bunches of spare time.
Normal, plain and simple...
March 5th, 2013
8:23 pm
Mary could have been fooling around and Joseph was really gullible…
USA Patriot
March 5th, 2013
8:24 pm
Fred: China is more advanced than given credit, according to my source, but still have a long way to go. Unfortunately, they’re feeding NK w/ technology, weapons, etc., just no intelligence. NK has some small nukes that could make for a bad weekend and/or headlines. We’ll see. Always appreciate your perspective.