Jeb Bush has a principled stand on immigration. Several, in fact.
Last summer, Jeb Bush was in favor of offering illegal immigrants a path to citizenship. As he told Charlie Rose:
“You have to deal with this issue. You can’t ignore it, and so either a path to citizenship, which I would support — and that does put me probably out of the mainstream of most conservatives — or a path to legalization, a path to residency of some kind.”
In his new book, “Immigration Wars: Forging an American Solution”, Bush comes out in stalwart opposition to citizenship.
“It is absolutely vital to the integrity of our immigration system that actions have consequences — in this case, that those who violated the law can remain but cannot obtain the cherished fruits of citizenship. To do otherwise would signal once again that people who circumvent the system can still obtain the full benefits of American citizenship.”
Today on “Morning Joe”, Bush was back to his initial position. Kind of … He repeatedly stressed that the book was written last year, as if something had happened recently to alter what in the book seems to be a strong, principle-based opposition to a path to citizenship. He also argued that a path to legalization would not create a magnet for future illegal immigration, while a path to citizenship somehow would.
“If you don’t have a difference between a path to citizenship or a path to legalization, you’re going to create a magnet going forward for more illegal immigration. So going forward — we wrote this last year — going forward, if there is a difference, if you can craft that in law where you can have a path to citizenship where there isn’t an incentive for people to come illegally, I’m for it. I don’t have a problem with that.”
A couple of points:
1.) The Bush flip-flop-flip has angered veterans of Mitt Romney’s campaign, which last year felt stranded on unpopular ground with the candidate’s “self-deportation” approach.
“Where the hell was this Jeb Bush during the campaign?” one advisor told the Miami Herald. “He spent all this time criticizing Romney and it turns out he has basically the same position. So he wants people to go back to their country and apply for citizenship? Well, that’s self deportation. We got creamed for talking about that. And now Jeb is saying the same thing.”
2.) The distinction that Bush attempts to draw between legalization and citizenship in fact has little real consequence. Those who have immigrated here illegally were drawn by jobs, the chance to escape Third World living conditions or greater opportunity for their children. Getting U.S. citizenship was way, way down on their list. A nice possibility, maybe, but hardly a deciding factor.
The notion that a path to legalization would be a less powerful magnet than a path to citizenship makes no sense, and Bush is smart enough to know it. But when you’re caught tacking to the right when the political winds are blowing left, and when you have ambitions of becoming the third consecutive Republican president named Bush, you have to scramble a bit.
– Jay Bookman
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Joe Hussein Mama
March 5th, 2013
5:17 pm
Fred — “Hey Scout: How about that Dow Jones?”
I suspect that he’s not going to have a lot to say about that.
I envision him sitting at home at his computer, reading the day’s business news, while sparks shoot out of his ears in the manner of a Terminator android that’s just been whooped upside the head with a bigazz piece of structural steel.
After all, his 401k is up. And it’s allllllll Obama’s fault. XD
Cherokee
March 5th, 2013
5:17 pm
‘He is going to continue the blame game in his never ending campaign while the nation as a whole suffers through his gross negligence.
a complete lack of leadership.”
So Akimbo, where did you copy that from? Every con on these blogs says the same things, over and over and over.
Can’t any of you think for yourselves?
They call me MISTER JamVet.
March 5th, 2013
5:19 pm
June 8: World Classic Rockers featuring original artists from Lynyrd Skynyrd, Toto, Steppenwolf, Journey and Santana
Keep, two words.
FREE BIRD!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wHx7vaa9Fwo
Fred ™
March 5th, 2013
5:19 pm
Keep: I badder than Kudzu ever THOUGHT about being……….
Joe Hussein Mama
March 5th, 2013
5:20 pm
Josef — ” I don’t have to worry about being the most self-inflated, know-it all. pompous ᎠᎵᏍᏇᏚᏬ ᏫᏍᎽᏫᎢ ᎤᎧ on the blog.”
Shrug. Actually, you still do.
They call me MISTER JamVet.
March 5th, 2013
5:22 pm
Actually, you still do.
(LOL at josef’s expense!!!)
indigo
March 5th, 2013
5:23 pm
On the other hand, if we withdrew our forces in Afghanistan NOW, and deployed many of them along the border in our Southwest, we could plug up the illegal Mexican holes and not have to worry about creating a “magnet going forward for more illegal immigration”.
In addition, I’m sure our troops would much rather be in their own country doing needed work than being involved in a bloody, useless war far from home.
Fred ™
March 5th, 2013
5:25 pm
Hey bro, here is one posted by someone who needs to turn in their Rap creds lol. This is listed as “Sugarhill Gang” doing ‘The Double Dutch Bus………
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JPClhSNIstM
Brosephus™ - Comin' straight out of Compton
March 5th, 2013
5:32 pm
TBS @ 5:11
Thanks for that song…
Fred ™
March 5th, 2013
5:33 pm
Well Brocephus, if it’s a REALLY bad infestation we need to take you back, close to the root…….
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8mq4UT4VnbE
They call me MISTER JamVet.
March 5th, 2013
5:33 pm
Tell me this thing doesn’t kick some major league ___!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cj96joB2vOs
Keep Up the Good Fight!
March 5th, 2013
5:34 pm
Jam, great tune but I would never go see it at the Fred. The hat check room is just overrated.
Thomas
March 5th, 2013
5:34 pm
http://www.suntimes.com/business/savage/18145406-452/bad-news-youre-going-to-have-to-save-a-lot-more-for-retirement.html
So the Fed destroys the fixed income market and retirees forcing money to the stock market and the folks say “Thank you President”
If it weren’t so sad it would be funny.
josef
March 5th, 2013
5:34 pm
JHM
And you’re another one…so, there…
BROSEPHUS
Brosephus™ - Comin' straight out of Compton
March 5th, 2013
5:35 pm
Fred @ 5:25
Oh my freaking God!!! I’m thinking about reporting that one to YouTube as being offensive.
josef
March 5th, 2013
5:36 pm
JHM
Oh, I concede to you on that count…I know when I can’t compete…
Logical Dude
March 5th, 2013
5:37 pm
Raising a glass to Tuesday Night Travellin’ Music.
(link to Pink’s “Raise Your Glass” to be inserted here)
josef
March 5th, 2013
5:37 pm
GOOD FIGHT
@ 5:34
Bernie
March 5th, 2013
5:38 pm
America has had enough of The Bush Clan. The last one surely almost brought America to the Brink of DESTRUCTION. A complete and total DESTRUCTION of (8) Eight years of UTTER IINCOMPETENCE!
Just say “NO” to JEB!
America will be a Better Nation because of it!
Fred ™
March 5th, 2013
5:38 pm
Here ya go Logical Dude:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XjVNlG5cZyQ
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
March 5th, 2013
5:40 pm
Speaking of rap
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h-p98umv1gg
(h/t Wonkette)
Bernie
March 5th, 2013
5:46 pm
Jay, Today you went from your inarticulate and uninformed narration on RACISM in Dekalb County.
Then a purposeful Tack to this Republican LITE opinion piece.
Your TRUE COLORS are on full display today!
No one is surprised by it. just wondering what took so long in revealing them!
getalife
March 5th, 2013
5:47 pm
You got that right Bernie.
Fred ™
March 5th, 2013
5:47 pm
Bless your heart Bernie, I’m sure your post makes sense to YOU lol……..
josef
March 5th, 2013
5:50 pm
JAY
Nothing wrong with showing your true colors “…and that’s why I love you…don’t be afraid to let them show..”
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tbZDjnWtK1A
getalife
March 5th, 2013
5:50 pm
bernie,
Right about jeb but wrong about jay.
barrys teleprompter
March 5th, 2013
5:50 pm
So sean penn’s boyfriend hugo chavez has died. Guess obama will need some comforting tonight, wonder if raul is on his way from the armpit known as chicago to wipe away barrys tears?
That Black Guy
March 5th, 2013
5:52 pm
Fred – haven’t heard that in a while.
JamVet – THAT was funny.
TBS – STILL one of my all time fav jams.
getalife
March 5th, 2013
5:52 pm
barrys teleprompter ,
Your name alone tells it all about you.
A true member of the party of stupid.
josef
March 5th, 2013
5:58 pm
Bernie has issues.
They call me MISTER JamVet.
March 5th, 2013
5:59 pm
Kam, I thought it was a parody. (Look how wrong I can be!)
Forget that T for Tolerance chick, gimme a T for Texas…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SY63KTMrkTM
Brosephus™ - Comin' straight out of Compton
March 5th, 2013
5:59 pm
Bernie has issues.
You just disparaged almost everyone in the world that really have issues. Just sayin’
stands for decibels
March 5th, 2013
6:00 pm
bernie is pretty hilarious, although I wish he played for the other team.
barrys teleprompter
March 5th, 2013
6:01 pm
gotnolife at last admits his party affliation. Bet you wish you were holding your boy barry as he weeps tonight for his fallen comrade.
josef
March 5th, 2013
6:01 pm
BROSEPHUS
Ssshhhh…don’t tell Bernie that. He thinks he special…
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
March 5th, 2013
6:03 pm
Kam, I thought it was a parody.
Yeah that’s why it’s funny.
Vast Right Wing Conspiracy (aka "Knuckle-Dragger")
March 5th, 2013
6:04 pm
Already going to work for Hillary? That’s a ways off. Anyway, the imperial viceroy may have declared himself the “imperial viceroy for life” by then.
getalife
March 5th, 2013
6:05 pm
lil bar,
Get lost clown.
That Black Guy
March 5th, 2013
6:05 pm
Fred ™
March 5th, 2013
5:47 pm
Bless your heart Bernie, I’m sure your post makes sense to YOU lol……..
_____________________________________________
Fred, it can make sense to you too.
All you have to do is beat yourself in the head with a bag of frozen monkey nipples while snorting green M&M’s.
Just the green ones, the red ones are too trippy man.
getalife
March 5th, 2013
6:06 pm
Well, bernie is right about jeb so he should of stop posting after his first post.
TBS
March 5th, 2013
6:07 pm
Bernie
Are you the same blogger who was hiding under his bed before the election because Romney was a Mormon?
Apologize if that wasn’t you but your posts come across as being very familiar.
stands for decibels
March 5th, 2013
6:07 pm
bernie, Jeb is WORSE THAN HITLER. Clearly.
Brosephus™ - Comin' straight out of Compton
March 5th, 2013
6:07 pm
Already going to work for Hillary? That’s a ways off. Anyway, the imperial viceroy may have declared himself the “imperial viceroy for life” by then.
I think Bernie just got out Bernied….
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josef
March 5th, 2013
6:08 pm
SFD
I like Fred. He speaks HIS mind, not somebody else’s…a rare quality in this day and age…
TBG
That’s frikken funny!
That Black Guy
March 5th, 2013
6:08 pm
josef
March 5th, 2013
6:01 pm
BROSEPHUS
Ssshhhh…don’t tell Bernie that. He thinks he special…
________________________________________
He is “special”.
His bus is sooo short it’s a yellow unicycle.
Brosephus™ - Comin' straight out of Compton
March 5th, 2013
6:08 pm
TBG
They call me MISTER JamVet.
March 5th, 2013
6:10 pm
No one is surprised by it.
Unwittingly ironic…
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
March 5th, 2013
6:11 pm
TBS:
“Good call. Maybe that will be your 1st article on your new blog.”
No …….. I post them here ……… and you don’t have to read them
stands for decibels
March 5th, 2013
6:11 pm
but josef, I do not think he is speaking his mind on that topic, he is just deliberately making crap up. And really, really dumbing down the meaning of the term “racist,” if that is even possible these days.
F. Sinkwich
March 5th, 2013
6:12 pm
“CARACAS, Venezuela — President Hugo Chavez, the fiery populist who declared a socialist revolution in Venezuela, crusaded against U.S. influence and championed a leftist revival across Latin America, died Tuesday at age 58 after a nearly two-year bout with cancer.”
*sniff*
Now the big question is whether O’bozo will attend his mentor’s funeral himself or send his Vice-Idiot Biden.
TBS
March 5th, 2013
6:12 pm
TBS
Scout I will continue to read the post I want to read and respond when I see fit.
Thanks.
Cloudodust
March 5th, 2013
6:12 pm
The illegal immigration issue will not be resolved by either party until we cut a sea lane, 50 to 100 miles wide between the Gulf and the Pacific and it’s patrolled by gunboats and subs. Dadgumit, it works pretty well for keeping out those pesky illegals from Europe and the Asia. Come to think of it, has anyone first hand knowledge of an Irishman or Chinese laying pinestraw lately..?
josef
March 5th, 2013
6:17 pm
TBG
Nyah…here it is…his is a collectible
http://matchbox.wikia.com/wiki/GMC_School_Bus
That Black Guy
March 5th, 2013
6:17 pm
Bro, I was thinking about X-Clan just before you posted that.
Scarey.
I feel like I snorted a red M&M.
That Black Guy
March 5th, 2013
6:18 pm
josef
stands for decibels
March 5th, 2013
6:19 pm
anyway, doody calls, pheasant evening, all.
josef
March 5th, 2013
6:20 pm
SFD
Not really…he just goes ahead and says what a lot of people think but don’t have the chutzpah to say, and let the chips fall where they may…
Welcome to the Occupation
March 5th, 2013
6:21 pm
F. Sinkwich: “Now the big question is whether O’bozo will attend his mentor’s funeral himself or send his Vice-Idiot Biden.”
Ah I knew it. Couldn’t take long.
Obama attend Chavez’s funeral? That’ll be the day. Obama clearly despised everything Chavez stood for, and that’s because he’s the leader of the system of which Chavez was the sworn enemy.
Won’t be seeing any US heads of state at Chavez’s funeral. But I guess you know that, right? You were just kidding, right?
josef
March 5th, 2013
6:23 pm
Who will represent our country at that head of state’s funeral? Will we do the diplomatically proper thing and send someone? We do, after all, have diplomatic relations with the Republic of Venezuela.
Brosephus™ - Comin' straight out of Compton
March 5th, 2013
6:23 pm
Dadgumit, it works pretty well for keeping out those pesky illegals from Europe and the Asia. Come to think of it, has anyone first hand knowledge of an Irishman or Chinese laying pinestraw lately..?
Irish citizens in New York say What???
http://www.irishcentral.com/news/Another-lonely-Christmas-for-illegal-Irish-trapped-in-the-United-States-135602673.html
Billybob
March 5th, 2013
6:24 pm
love libs who try to pick the republican party’s candidates…….and starting so early too jay…..this one will never fly, a conservative will be the nominee in 2016…….
DannyX
March 5th, 2013
6:24 pm
“Now the big question is whether O’bozo will attend his mentor’s funeral himself or send his Vice-Idiot Biden.”
Probably not, Obama would be arrested if he went to the funeral. Haven’t you heard the news? Venezuela thinks Obama poisoned Chavez. Venezuela expelled 2 US diplomats today because of their suspicions.
getalife
March 5th, 2013
6:24 pm
Our government should send them our condolences and stay out of their elections.
Keep Up the Good Fight!
March 5th, 2013
6:25 pm
Dang, I went with the half-mast post, should have bet on the “attending funeral”. Perhaps Rodman is available?
getalife
March 5th, 2013
6:25 pm
“a conservative will be the nominee in 2016…….”
Who do you pick billbbob?
Brosephus™ - Comin' straight out of Compton
March 5th, 2013
6:25 pm
TBG
They were in the process of putting together a new release before one of the members died last year. Every now and then, I’ll break out a track or two to keep my melanin count in check.
————–
josef
I imagine they’re pulling straws at the Embassy in Venezuela to see who ends up going.
Doggone/GA
March 5th, 2013
6:27 pm
“Won’t be seeing any US heads of state at Chavez’s funeral”
How do you define “US heads of state” in the plural? By my count, there’s only one. The President.
But that aside, the Ambassador will probably go, if no now else…unless they run him out of the country first.
That Black Guy
March 5th, 2013
6:27 pm
Billybob
March 5th, 2013
6:24 pm
love libs who try to pick the republican party’s candidates…….and starting so early too jay…..this one will never fly, a conservative will be the nominee in 2016…….
_______________________________
…and a Democrat will be elected President as a result.
DannyX
March 5th, 2013
6:27 pm
“love libs who try to pick the republican party’s candidates”
We’re not trying to pick them, we mock them. Cain, Bachmann, Perry, Newt, Romney, Santorum, Trump, its comedy gold.
Can’t wait for 2016.
getalife
March 5th, 2013
6:28 pm
They expelled our diplomats.
No Americans are going.
Ronald Reagan
March 5th, 2013
6:28 pm
We need another good President Like George W. & his father was! Hopefully all of the country won’t be dismantled by then!
They call me MISTER JamVet.
March 5th, 2013
6:29 pm
…a conservative will be the nominee in 2016…….
Like the “conservatives” you nominated in 2008 and 2012?
josef
March 5th, 2013
6:29 pm
BROSEPHUS
I imagine it’ll be that poor stenographer who was just posted…
Doggone/GA
March 5th, 2013
6:29 pm
“love libs who try to pick the republican party’s candidates”
It’s really reverse psychology
DannyX
March 5th, 2013
6:30 pm
“a conservative will be the nominee in 2016″
He better be an Etch-a-Sketch conservative if he wants to be elected.
TBS
March 5th, 2013
6:31 pm
“love libs who try to pick the republican party’s candidates”
Republicans tried that lame excuse the last two elections. Talk radio really needs to give you guys a new talking point.
Those who voted in the Republican primary picked the last candidate, the one before that, etc and will do so again during the next time.
FYI: Works the same exact way for the Democrats
josef
March 5th, 2013
6:32 pm
getalife
@ 6:28
There is that…
getalife
March 5th, 2013
6:33 pm
Our President sent his condolences.
That is all we will do.
Brosephus™ - Comin' straight out of Compton
March 5th, 2013
6:33 pm
It’s likely that this will be the person in attendance…
http://caracas.usembassy.gov/about-us/charge-d-affaires.html
They call me MISTER JamVet.
March 5th, 2013
6:33 pm
If they get demolished once again in 2014, it may be time for the cons to consider…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bFPaxK-q5gI
josef
March 5th, 2013
6:34 pm
TBS
Well, it IS Obama and the Dems fault they lost the last election…you can’t argue against that…
getalife
March 5th, 2013
6:35 pm
16 primary will be the gop establishment vs the tea party.
I hope the tea party wins.
F. Sinkwich
March 5th, 2013
6:35 pm
Occutard:
“Won’t be seeing any US heads of state at Chavez’s funeral. But I guess you know that, right? You were just kidding, right?”
Well kinda. But you know, i know, and the world knows O’bozo will at least dial-up 1-800-FLOWERS.
I mean, after all, he can’t really be seen there. Politics and all.
Just like lib ilk disavow the term “liberal” prefering instead the more acceptable term “progressive,” no way can O’bozo publically embrace his idealogical butt-buddy without betraying to his lemmings like Jay and most of you here his marxist proclivities.
Brosephus™ - Comin' straight out of Compton
March 5th, 2013
6:36 pm
love libs who try to pick the republican party’s candidates
Seems as though Conservatives are the one’s who pick the Republican party’s candidates judging by the last cast of characters who were paraded around. It can’t be helped that conservatives are so predictable that libs can predict who they’re going to pick ahead of time. Conservatives need to quit being so predictable.
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
March 5th, 2013
6:36 pm
…..this one will never fly, a conservative will be the nominee in 2016…….
Perhaps Christine “I’m Not A Witch” O’Donnell?
It would solidify the Wiccan vote.
They’re about the only ones y’all haven’t directly alienated.
TBS
March 5th, 2013
6:36 pm
josef
Damn, I just chocked on my tea. Thanks
haahahahahaa
josef
March 5th, 2013
6:36 pm
BROSEPHUS
@ 6:33
I’m not sure, but I do think that would conform to protocol…
getalife
March 5th, 2013
6:37 pm
filky,
Dow hits record high to prove you are full of it.
Doggone/GA
March 5th, 2013
6:39 pm
“Conservatives need to quit being so predictable.”
Unpredictable conservatives? Isn’t that an inherent contradiction?
They call me MISTER JamVet.
March 5th, 2013
6:39 pm
Perhaps Christine “I’m Not A Witch” O’Donnell?
If so, I’d watch her campaign “religiously”!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ewJoJYlgj_w
TBS
March 5th, 2013
6:39 pm
“no way can O’bozo publically embrace his idealogical butt-buddy”
From the same blogger who was telling us about seeing Jam while he was “crusing around behind a shopping center”. Are you trying to tell us something?
Are you really Larry Craig or Mark Foley?
Did you teach Larry the latrine two step?
TBS
March 5th, 2013
6:40 pm
*cruising…….
There is another blogger who keeps trying to tell us something. Maybe you two can make a joint announcement
josef
March 5th, 2013
6:40 pm
K’CHAK
They’ve already got their folks at work on the commercials…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KnMa652dZ5E
josef
March 5th, 2013
6:42 pm
TBS
They call me MISTER JamVet.
March 5th, 2013
6:43 pm
Ah, Christine.
She’s gotta be the foxiest little witch out there.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ggHk71Ht7vk
Brosephus™ - Comin' straight out of Compton
March 5th, 2013
6:43 pm
josef
Sounds about right…
————–
Doggone
You have a valid point there.
F. Sinkwich
March 5th, 2013
6:44 pm
F. Sinkwich:
“…no way can O’bozo publically embrace his idealogical butt-buddy without betraying to his lemmings like Jay and most of you here his marxist proclivities.”
I wish to amend my post, if I may.
Jay and his minions here know full well who O’bozo is. It’s from his doofus voters he wishes to keep his commie secrets.
TBS
March 5th, 2013
6:45 pm
josef
When it comes to the blog, this song came to mind after Sink’s post
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pAyKJAtDNCw
getalife
March 5th, 2013
6:46 pm
I hope Clint runs.
He is hilarious and can talk to empty chairs.
Pretty unpredictable.
getalife
March 5th, 2013
6:48 pm
Yes filky,
He is the President that gave us a record high Dow and your 401k’s are doing well.
You should thank him and stop the act.
It is old and tired.