Jeb Bush has a principled stand on immigration. Several, in fact.
Last summer, Jeb Bush was in favor of offering illegal immigrants a path to citizenship. As he told Charlie Rose:
“You have to deal with this issue. You can’t ignore it, and so either a path to citizenship, which I would support — and that does put me probably out of the mainstream of most conservatives — or a path to legalization, a path to residency of some kind.”
In his new book, “Immigration Wars: Forging an American Solution”, Bush comes out in stalwart opposition to citizenship.
“It is absolutely vital to the integrity of our immigration system that actions have consequences — in this case, that those who violated the law can remain but cannot obtain the cherished fruits of citizenship. To do otherwise would signal once again that people who circumvent the system can still obtain the full benefits of American citizenship.”
Today on “Morning Joe”, Bush was back to his initial position. Kind of … He repeatedly stressed that the book was written last year, as if something had happened recently to alter what in the book seems to be a strong, principle-based opposition to a path to citizenship. He also argued that a path to legalization would not create a magnet for future illegal immigration, while a path to citizenship somehow would.
“If you don’t have a difference between a path to citizenship or a path to legalization, you’re going to create a magnet going forward for more illegal immigration. So going forward — we wrote this last year — going forward, if there is a difference, if you can craft that in law where you can have a path to citizenship where there isn’t an incentive for people to come illegally, I’m for it. I don’t have a problem with that.”
A couple of points:
1.) The Bush flip-flop-flip has angered veterans of Mitt Romney’s campaign, which last year felt stranded on unpopular ground with the candidate’s “self-deportation” approach.
“Where the hell was this Jeb Bush during the campaign?” one advisor told the Miami Herald. “He spent all this time criticizing Romney and it turns out he has basically the same position. So he wants people to go back to their country and apply for citizenship? Well, that’s self deportation. We got creamed for talking about that. And now Jeb is saying the same thing.”
2.) The distinction that Bush attempts to draw between legalization and citizenship in fact has little real consequence. Those who have immigrated here illegally were drawn by jobs, the chance to escape Third World living conditions or greater opportunity for their children. Getting U.S. citizenship was way, way down on their list. A nice possibility, maybe, but hardly a deciding factor.
The notion that a path to legalization would be a less powerful magnet than a path to citizenship makes no sense, and Bush is smart enough to know it. But when you’re caught tacking to the right when the political winds are blowing left, and when you have ambitions of becoming the third consecutive Republican president named Bush, you have to scramble a bit.
– Jay Bookman
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stands for decibels
March 8th, 2013
10:47 am
(and yes, that bit @ 10.40 was a joke. Obviously there are legit reasons for people to get carry permits, and I wouldn’t be the least bit judgmental in administering such laws were I made Benevolent Dicktator.)
stands for decibels
March 8th, 2013
10:49 am
Someone tell him Guam hasn’t and won’t tip over
ok, Thulsa. I’m sure he’s never heard about that inelegantly phrased line of inquiry from several years ago, so I’ll go let him know.
Matti
March 8th, 2013
10:51 am
Somebody please explain to Thulsa what a metaphor is. Bless his heart.
Redneck Convert (R--and proud of it)
March 8th, 2013
10:52 am
Well, I’m against anger management classes for people wanting to carry. I know when I seen the picture of them two big fat lawmakers congratulating theirselfs for getting a carry bill thru the House, I wanted to fire off a few rounds.
Thulsa Doom
March 8th, 2013
10:52 am
“I do not support concealed weapons’
Neither does William Raspberry. Or do he?
Oscar
March 8th, 2013
10:53 am
Guam won’t tip over but it was important to kmow it was based on rock and could support the structurs the Navy anted to build. Good questin poorly worded.
Sons and Grandsons and great grandsons of Cpnferderaton Veterans – who fought in the War for Southern Independence.
stands for decibels
March 8th, 2013
10:54 am
Haven’t been much of a MoDo fan since ever, but she shoots, she scores, here.
When he was supposed to be vetting vice presidential candidates, Mr. Cheney was actually demanding so much material from them that there was always something to pick on. He filled W.’s head with stories about conflicts between presidents and vice presidents sparked by the vice president’s ambition, while protesting that he himself did not want the job.
In an unorthodox move, he ran the transition, hiring all his people, including Bush Senior’s nemesis, Rummy, and sloughing off the Friends of George; then he gave himself an all-access pass.
He was always goosing up W.’s insecurities so he could take advantage of them. To make his crazy and appallingly costly detour from Osama to Saddam by cherry-picking his fake case for invading Iraq, he played on W.’s fear of being lampooned as a wimp, as his father had been.
But after Vice kept W. out of the loop on the Justice Department’s rebellion against Mr. Cheney’s illegal warrantless domestic spying program, the relationship was ruptured. It was too late to rein in the feverish vice president, except to tell him he couldn’t bomb a nuclear plant in the Syrian desert.
Thulsa Doom
March 8th, 2013
10:55 am
Aaaaah. Matti with the “it was a metaphor” card. Yeah. Sure Matti. Uh huh.
stands for decibels
March 8th, 2013
10:57 am
Guam won’t tip over but it was important to kmow it was based on rock and could support the structurs the Navy anted to build. Good questin poorly worded.
I know some folks are going to cry and moan about Playing The Dreaded “Race Card” (which as we all know makes me the Real Racist! and just as Bad as Hitler and the KKK combined!)–
but I really have to wonder if a white guy asking the question Hank asked, those words, would’ve been hearing about it years later like that. Particularly in the context of remarks asserting said imaginary white guy’s supposed lack of intellect.
I gotta say, I’m thinking “not.”
Matti
March 8th, 2013
10:57 am
Aaaah Thusla. You didn’t even have to look that word up. Yeah. Sure Thulsa. Uh huh.
Keep Up the Good Fight!
March 8th, 2013
10:59 am
A woman in Ada, Oklahoma has been found with a loaded gun in her vagina after being arrested by police.
Great, now women are developing those defense systems. I expect shortly we’ll be hearing about those battery operated drones. This is the GOPs Fault!
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
March 8th, 2013
11:01 am
Keep
I saw that yesterday.
I long for the good ol’ days when all we had to worry about was vagina dentata.
Thulsa Doom
March 8th, 2013
11:03 am
Oscar,
That’s pretty weak. You could say the same about the Hawaiian islands, Bermuda which sits atop a volcano sticking out of the ocean, or any number of thousands of other islands througout the world and yet we build good sized structures on those islands.And its not as if the Navy was going to be building skyscrapers anyway. And in case you hadn’t noticed Guam isn’t exactly a tiny island either at 212 square miles.
Brosephus™
March 8th, 2013
11:03 am
dB
I don’t even understand why you bother with such stuff. We have all seen first-hand that people here are gonna believe what they choose to facts be damned. This is nothing more than a left/right pissing contest from my perspective. The righties would be defending Johnson’s words if he had a (R) behind his name. Since he doesn’t, then he’s a dumb librul incapable of using literary license to make a point.
Thulsa Doom
March 8th, 2013
11:05 am
Aaaaah Matti. Still trying to make a valid point and still failing miserably I see. Perhaps you need a placard to express yourself. I’m sure you have plenty to spare from some a them kook protests you go to from time to time.
Matti
March 8th, 2013
11:10 am
Thusla,
That you would have everyone believe (as you CHOOSE to do with bias rather than basis) that a man could finish high school, college, and law school (even in Georgia and Texas!), and make a living as a lawyer for 25 years, without knowing that islands stick up out of the water and don’t actually float, is an insult to the intelligence of everyone you address.
Not everyone communicates as eloquently as you imagine YOU do. That — in and of itself — does not indicate ignorance any more than your eloquence indicates that you actually know anything. Every time you insult the readers here (or whichever unfortunate souls actually have to listen to you in your daily life) with this race-baiting nonsense, you really just insult yourself. Newsflash: NO ONE is impressed.
Doggone/GA
March 8th, 2013
11:11 am
“I long for the good ol’ days when all we had to worry about was vagina dentata.”
Funny! I had EXACTLY the same thought!
Thulsa Doom
March 8th, 2013
11:11 am
“The righties would be defending Johnson’s words if he had a (R) behind his name.”
Um. No. I don’t remember too many righties defending the idiot R senatorial candidate who suggested that rape really wasn’t rape or that a woman’s body could magically abort a fetus impregnated through rape. I think he was from MO. Whatever crazy shiite he said I don’t recall him getting much support at all from the cons on this board. Or from fellow R politicians who shunned him and asked him to step down from the senate race after such idiocy and let someone run who could have won.
St Simons
March 8th, 2013
11:11 am
John Boehner is here today (really)
Parkers general store is out of cigarettes & tan oil.
Correlation is not causation, merely coincidence.
Normal, Plain and Simple
March 8th, 2013
11:12 am
Just thought you’d like to know…
http://www.ajc.com/videos/news/rand-paul-considered-using-a-catheter-during/vsm6g/
stands for decibels
March 8th, 2013
11:13 am
Hakuna dentata. It means no worries for the rest of your life.
Keep Up the Good Fight!
March 8th, 2013
11:16 am
Dentata? Only her dentist knows for sure? or is it 4 out of 5 gynos recommend Vident?
stands for decibels
March 8th, 2013
11:17 am
I don’t remember too many righties defending the idiot R senatorial candidate who suggested that rape really wasn’t rape or that a woman’s body could magically abort a fetus impregnated through rape.
Yep, those are really analogous statements and issues. Because we’re constantly debating, in this country, whether remote military installations should be upgraded; why, people come to blows, there are mass protests, people who implement such expansions are routinely harassed, and sometimes murdered.
I think there’s a “no island military bases” Constitutional amendment floating around there.
Terrific example, that.
Keep Up the Good Fight!
March 8th, 2013
11:19 am
Matti, I am sure we all know that Mitt believes you should be able to roll down airplane windows.
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
March 8th, 2013
11:19 am
Dentata? Only her dentist knows for sure? or is it 4 out of 5 gynos recommend Vident?
Heh, heh, heh.
The procedure “root canal” takes on a whole new meaning.
Redneck Convert (R--and proud of it)
March 8th, 2013
11:20 am
Well, Matti, I say you should just ignore this Thelma Doom.
As we say up here, that boy ain’t right.
Keep Up the Good Fight!
March 8th, 2013
11:23 am
Stands, next we’ll be hearing about how Dems will be uninformed this summer because Jon Stewart is taking the summer off.
Whereever will we hear about WI Wedding drones, Friends of Hamas, or all the other news that has the conned up in arms. 
stands for decibels
March 8th, 2013
11:24 am
I am sure we all know that Mitt believes you should be able to roll down airplane windows.
Yes, I immediately thought “Mitt does not realize airliners have pressurized cabins! my god he is SO INCREDIBLY STUPID!” when I heard that.
And I’ll go on saying it every time I hear Romney’s name mentioned for, oh, the next three or four years, so I can show everyone how s-m-r-t I am.
Thulsa Doom
March 8th, 2013
11:25 am
Pencilneck convert chiming in from the asylum. He must still be driving his imaginary beer truck. Stick with playing with the tonka truck convert.
Brosephus™
March 8th, 2013
11:26 am
http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/republicans-support-todd-akin-legitimate-rape-comment-missouri/story?id=17332911
It’s hard to cut and paste with the tablet, but that link provides information to refute the idea that Akin wasn’t supported by politicians and the party itself.
Brosephus™
March 8th, 2013
11:27 am
But…
Doom, please proceed.
barking frog
March 8th, 2013
11:28 am
G Mare
Happy Birthday ! Happy International Women’s Day to all the
ladies to whom we owe our existence.
Matti
March 8th, 2013
11:30 am
Redneck Convert (R--and proud of it)
March 8th, 2013
11:30 am
Well, Thelma, back when I was in the army I served on Guam. Sometimes when you left the enlisted men’s club late at night—it had a thatched roof back then—you felt like the island might could tip over.
Course, you, being the big he-man that you are, were much too much of manly man to serve and you wouldn’t know about that.
williebkind
March 8th, 2013
11:31 am
“Somebody please explain to Thulsa what a metaphor is. Bless his heart.”
Thulsa a metaphor is like when the liberals proclaim government frees people.
stands for decibels
March 8th, 2013
11:32 am
Thulsa a metaphor is like when the liberals proclaim government frees people.
Popcorn, anyone?
Matti
March 8th, 2013
11:36 am
Brosephus™
March 8th, 2013
11:37 am
dB
I’ll pass on the popcorn. Eating for this one will definitely be a diet buster.
stands for decibels
March 8th, 2013
11:37 am
I’m trying so hard not to make a joke at the expense of the developmentally disabled here.
barking frog
March 8th, 2013
11:37 am
Without government no one could be freed from government
so government is necessary to gain freedom from it.
Thulsa Doom
March 8th, 2013
11:37 am
“That you would have everyone believe (as you CHOOSE to do with bias rather than basis) that a man could finish high school, college, and law school (even in Georgia and Texas!), and make a living as a lawyer for 25 years, without knowing that islands stick up out of the water and don’t actually float, is an insult to the intelligence of everyone you address.”
Perhaps you need to see what happened Matti. The man was serious when he said that. The fact that he has an education doesn’t mean a whole helluva lot. Hell I can show you a clip of a Congresswoman from Fla. who has a masters degree from univ. of Florida and this native born woman can’t even speak English without completely mangling the language.
“Not everyone communicates as eloquently as you imagine YOU do. That — in and of itself — does not indicate ignorance any more than your eloquence indicates that you actually know anything.”
I hear ya. Translation- Eloquent people are stupid and smart people lack eloquence and have small vocabularies. Otay. Makes sense- in liberal fantasyland.
“Every time you insult the readers here (or whichever unfortunate souls actually have to listen to you in your daily life) with this race-baiting nonsense, you really just insult yourself. Newsflash: NO ONE is impressed.”
And of course none of the libs on here are insulting to the cons are they Matti? Race baiting nonsense? That was predictable- standard liberal ploy. If you can’t debate or make a point you bring out the race card. Its as predictable as the sun rising in the east.
“Newsflash. NO ONE is impressed.” Newsflash to you Matti. I’m not here to impress you or anyone else.
But I thought I would leave you with another of Hank’s gems.
“I managed to hold it together when he uttered “the M-word” in the course of denouncing the M-word, but the lulz began to roll after about three minutes. The first rule of apologizing for insensitivity: When expressing your remorse to the offended group, always refer to them as “abnormal.”
“I’m deeply sorry for calling abnormally small people midgets.”
Hilarious. Don’t fret though Matti. Plenty of stupid white politicians too if it makes you feel better. Or worse.
Keep Up the Good Fight!
March 8th, 2013
11:41 am
Stands, if you wait a bit, you might be able to get some melt-down butter on that popcorn.
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
March 8th, 2013
11:41 am
According to the final 5-page agreement, signed by O’Keefe and his legal counsel Mike Madigan this past Tuesday, the boy detective now publicly “regrets any pain suffered by Mr. Vera or his family.” O’Keefe and his counsel have also consented to fork over the $100,000 within 30 business days of the settlement agreement’s being signed.
Matti
March 8th, 2013
11:43 am
Hahahaha! ROFLM(cl)AO! STOP it! It hurts! HAHAHA!
Thulsa Doom
March 8th, 2013
11:43 am
“Course, you, being the big he-man that you are, were much too much of manly man to serve and you wouldn’t know about that.”
Pencilneck convert,
My DD-214 disagrees with you missy. But don’t let your preconceived narrative get in the way. Ya never did before.
Looks like your military service is about as imaginary as your beer truck. At least the tonka truck is fer real though.
stands for decibels
March 8th, 2013
11:47 am
O’Keefe and his counsel have also consented to fork over the $100,000 within 30 business days of the settlement agreement’s being signed.
yay. more like this, please.
Keep Up the Good Fight!
March 8th, 2013
11:48 am
Kam, I saw that one yesterday. I am sure we’ll never hear about ACORN again.
Oh wait….
A new short-term budget bill introduced on Monday by House Republicans includes a bizarre provision banning federal funding to anti-poverty group ACORN, despite the fact that the group has already been stripped of federal funding — and has been defunct for nearly three years.
Perhaps this demonstrates that the real stupidity is not having a momentary brain fart about islands, but the serious brain dead stupidity of the conned.
Paul
March 8th, 2013
11:48 am
FIrst splits on revenue increases, now this:
“McCain, Graham assail Rand Paul on targeted killings policy”
I can’t tell if Republicans are reforming or fracturing.
Don’t think it’ll matter to Sen Cruz, though. As long as he sees his face on the evening news, he’s happy.
http://nbcpolitics.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/03/07/17225441-mccain-graham-assail-rand-paul-on-targeted-killings-policy?lite
Thulsa Doom
March 8th, 2013
11:49 am
williebkind,
I think everyone knows what a metaphor is. Typical of a weak argument Matti was trying to make the case that Hank Johnson’s stupidity was simply a metaphor that cons like me don’t understand. Yeah. I know. Her point is beyond stupid. But consider the source…
Paul
March 8th, 2013
11:51 am
Keep Up
This isn’t the first. White House was recently surprised that key Republicans were completely unaware the White House proposed changing the SS cost of living formula.
As long as Democrats keep in mind Republican policymakers are a day late and a dollar short, and if they begin each of their statements with “to review recent proposals….” we might make progress.
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
March 8th, 2013
11:53 am
Keep
Maybe they can defund the non funded ACORN three times and make it a trifecta.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Uh, oh.
Paul’s here.
Broken blog in 3…2…1….
stands for decibels
March 8th, 2013
11:54 am
Peggy Noonan Didn’t Like Her Hotel Room. Thanks Obama!
Our lady of the Jesus Dolphins gives so much, and asks so little of America in return.
Keep Up the Good Fight!
March 8th, 2013
11:55 am
Paul, when you are in the Fox-conned bubble, reality does not set in. Thus the latest O’Reilly meltdown, the Rove meltdown.
Brosephus™
March 8th, 2013
11:57 am
ACORN!!!!! The Wolverines! for the New Age GOP.
Keep Up the Good Fight!
March 8th, 2013
11:57 am
Kam, they were up in arms about ACORN but strangely silent about the GOP’s use of a firm that actually commits (and admits) voting fraud. Perhaps we need to defund the GOP.
stands for decibels
March 8th, 2013
11:58 am
Maybe they can defund the non funded ACORN three times and make it a trifecta.
I’ve got an idea. Why don’t they re-re-re-re (x gazillion) -ban Federal funding for abortion?
I’m sure that’d have an economic stimulative effect. Or, it’ll stimulate something (it must, right?)
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
March 8th, 2013
12:08 pm
Conclave to select new pope to begin Tuesday, Vatican says
Anyone else heard “The new Pope will be the Anti-Christ” meme?
Thulsa Doom
March 8th, 2013
12:09 pm
Matti,
I think you need to go back to school ma’am. Its pretty clear that you don’t understand what a metaphor is. Here is the video of Hank Johnson. Its a Congressional hearing and he is asking a Navy officer in a dead serious manner this question. This is his quote. “I fear that the whole island will become so over populated that it will tip over and capsize.” There is no metaphor there Matti. It is simply a statement of stupidity.
A metaphor would be something like “a ship ploughing through the sea”.
And last when you view the video you will see that for all of Mr. Johnson’s education is dead serious in this questioning. So you can’t play it off as a metaphor and you can’t say he was taken out of context or joking. The idiot was dead serious.
The next time you tell someone in a condescending fashion what a metaphor is perhaps you should learn what it means yourself lest you look like an idiot for claiming a metaphor where there is none.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v7XXVLKWd3Q
Matti
March 8th, 2013
12:17 pm
Seriously, Doom:
Bless your heart.
Thulsa Doom
March 8th, 2013
12:21 pm
Matti,
Show me where the metaphor is in that statement Matti. You can’t because there is none.
Nice to see though that your complete ignorance is on display for everyone on the blog to see. Your “bless your heart” deflection doesn’t change that.
stands for decibels
March 8th, 2013
12:21 pm
“Ok, that Hank Johnson line is way overplayed, and I’m kinda making a jackass of myself by repeating it years later, so, ok. Let’s move on.”
Oddly enough, I don’t find that^^ sentence all that hard to type. Wonder why Thulsa does?
stands for decibels
March 8th, 2013
12:23 pm
http://whatis.techtarget.com/definition/tipping-point
Brosephus™
March 8th, 2013
12:25 pm
dB @ 12:21
In one word… ego.
Thulsa Doom
March 8th, 2013
12:30 pm
stands for decibels,
What’s a matter stands? Don’t like it that I’ve proven Matti to be an abject fool? Perhaps you would like to “take a stab at it” and show me where the metaphor is that Matti says exists in that statement. And I hope your link on tipping point isn’t a weak attempt to do so seeing as how the link is completely irrelevant to the point at hand.
stands for decibels
March 8th, 2013
12:32 pm
“I’m gonna double down on my stupid and start nitpicking over what the definition of
“is,”“metaphor” is, and hope that nobody notices that I’m harping on a topic of interest to none but the sort of person who has to make reservations for Bitter, Table of One every night.”Now, that was surprisingly difficult for me to type, oddly enough.
barking frog
March 8th, 2013
12:32 pm
Thulsa Doom
You missed that Johnson ’sandbagged’ the witness into
admitting that he was totally uninformed about the effect
on the island of Guam that would occur by relocating 25,000
Marines there. Lawyering.
Thulsa Doom
March 8th, 2013
12:37 pm
Bro,
Has nothing to do with ego. Matti is going to make a baseless point, accuse me of race baiting, try to ridicule me about understanding what a metaphor is when she in fact has no clue, and generally make an ass of herself while attempting to make an ass of me. It just ended up boomeranging on her is all. And if you want to take a swipe at me just man up and address me directly as opposed to sniping from the sideline.
You’re a typical lib. You have no problem with certain libs around here tossing around insults and behaving badly. But you sure as hell get your feathers ruffled when a con retaliates in kind.
Thulsa Doom
March 8th, 2013
12:40 pm
“You missed that Johnson ’sandbagged’ the witness into
admitting that he was totally uninformed about the effect
on the island of Guam that would occur by relocating 25,000
Marines there.”
Barking frog,
No. I watched the video. The officer didn’t get “sandbagged”. I think he was just stunned by the stupidity of the statement. And as idiotic as the statement was the fact remains that Johnson was a U.S. Congressman and a military officer testifying before him still has to respond in a polite and respectful mannner.
Thulsa Doom
March 8th, 2013
12:44 pm
“I’m not going to double down on the fact that I can’t show a metaphor there because there isn’t one. I’ll just let it go and admit that my fellow lib doesn’t in fact understand what a metaphor is and is just plain wrong.”
Makes you wonder why someone can’t just write a simple statement like that and let it go. What is it? Ego?
Paul
March 8th, 2013
12:44 pm
No worries, Kamchak.
We haven’t broke 2,000 posts yet -
barking frog
March 8th, 2013
12:45 pm
Thulsa Doom
the military officer did not know any of the physical parameters
of the island or any environmental effects that would be affected
by the relocation and Johnson’s question about the tipover elicited
the only positive answer, sandbagging….
Matti
March 8th, 2013
12:46 pm
Thulsa Doom,
Why should I give a 9th-grade English lesson to a grown-azz man? Seriously?
“I fear that the whole island will become so over populated that it will tip over and capsize.”
The use of the metaphor was not strikingly clever, nor was it elegantly stated. However, for those who choose to attempt comprehension using context, it’s not that hard to find.
You see, overpopulation has consequences, particularly in a limited space with finite, immovable borders, like an island. Too many people in any limited space can result in a measurable strain on resources and infrastructure, and the trampling of areas that are best left un-trampled, such as dunes, wetlands, and other natural barriers between mother nature and inhabitants.
The metaphor is that the weight of too many humans would tip the island over. The possibility to which it refers is that significantly adding to the population would be detrimental to the quality of life, and the balance of resources — natural, indigenous, imported, and economic — that exist on the island, such that the former standards might not be recoverable.
Now that you’ve insisted I play teacher, I’m going to FLUNK you on attitude alone. If you have any more questions, go ask your Mommy or go back to high school, but don’t write and tell me about it, because I don’t care.
Erwin's cat
March 8th, 2013
12:47 pm
are you arguing intent?…I don’t think there is such a thing as an accidental metaphor….stupid statement on the other hand…….it’s hard to tell which is which sometimes see: fiscal cliff
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
March 8th, 2013
12:52 pm
We haven’t broke 2,000 posts yet -
Uhhhhhhhhhhh, you sure ’bout that?
barking frog
March 8th, 2013
12:52 pm
Erwin’s cat
are you arguing intent?
…………………………………………..
possibly, but I am intentionally arguing….
Thulsa Doom
March 8th, 2013
12:55 pm
Metaphor Matti,
Wow. What a gigantic stretch. So now you’re moving the goal posts and saying that his entire broad statement is just one big, giant metaphor huh? Sorry Matti but this is just beyond stupid. Even for you.
Redneck Convert (R--and proud of it)
March 8th, 2013
12:55 pm
Now that you’ve insisted I play teacher, I’m going to FLUNK you on attitude alone. If you have any more questions, go ask your Mommy or go back to high school, but don’t write and tell me about it, because I don’t care.
Oh good! Now Thelma can join me as somebody that flunked out but made good. Except I did alot better than becoming a lousy insurance salesman.
Jefferson
March 8th, 2013
1:01 pm
doom is full.
Brosephus™
March 8th, 2013
1:01 pm
You’re a typical lib. You have no problem with certain libs around here tossing around insults and behaving badly. But you sure as hell get your feathers ruffled when a con retaliates in kind.
Oh my goodness, I have been painted with the typical lib card. How will I ever live with myself?
I have not taken sides on this debate, but that doesn’t appear to stop you from listening to the voices in your head that claim otherwise. I merely pointed out that your ego keeps you from letting go of these pissant arguments because you can’t stand to be wrong about anything and everything. All one has to do is read through the archives to see for themselves.
Better yet, one can look at this page. After asserting that nobody in the GOP supported Akin after his case of word vomit, you said absolutely nothing else on that particular topic after proof was posted to prove you wrong.
The floor is yours. Please proceed. I’m done with it. You’re never gonna get the last word in when discussing anything with you, so deflect away with the knowledge that I’m not responding to you any further.
Matti
March 8th, 2013
1:02 pm
Thulsa,
You’re absolutely right. It IS indeed a “gigantic stretch” for someone whose mind cannot dilate beyond 2 cm. Now please stop blaming me for your shortcomings. I did not give birth to you, nor would I if given the choice.
Paul
March 8th, 2013
1:07 pm
Whoa, Kamchak, you’re right.
Chugging on the way to 2,100.
Well alrighty then. Anything can happen now….
They call me MISTER JamVet.
March 8th, 2013
1:09 pm
Metaphors, similes and hyperboles, oh my!
http://www.11alive.com/news/article/243063/166/The-unlikely-orator–Congressman-Hank-Johnson
The upshot, our congressmen speak, on average, at the level of a tenth grader.
Johnson, Chambliss and Bishop at least use college-level language.
Conversely, the foundation concluded that freshman Congressman Rob Woodall of Gwinnett County speaks at the level of an eighth grader and has the second lowest grade level of anybody in Congress.
FWIW…
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
March 8th, 2013
1:09 pm
Chugging on the way to 2,100.
Someone here has been chugging their lunch, but I’m sure that’s not what you meant.
Keep Up the Good Fight!
March 8th, 2013
1:11 pm
Bro, have you considered the shunning option?
I think it was best said in the OJ trial: “If they are scum, they should be shunned.” 
Thulsa Doom
March 8th, 2013
1:11 pm
“I merely pointed out that your ego keeps you from letting go of these pissant arguments because you can’t stand to be wrong about anything and everything. All one has to do is read through the archives to see for themselves.”
Bro,
I guess in reading through the archives you must have missed when Jay wrote about the Republican power grab in Virginia 3 weeks ago. I initially disagreed with him, thought about it, and wrote him early the next week to tell him that I thought about it over the weekend and realized he was right and I was wrong. Is that the kind of stubborness that you speak of?
“The floor is yours. Please proceed. I’m done with it. You’re never gonna get the last word in when discussing anything with you,”
The same could be said about you Bro. Or Joe Mama for that matter.
barking frog
March 8th, 2013
1:13 pm
Thulsa Doom
this is a guy with extremely dry humor, listen carefully..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bi7s8jiaHBE
Brosephus™
March 8th, 2013
1:14 pm
Keep
I feel like I need a scarlet L around my neck.
Thulsa Doom
March 8th, 2013
1:16 pm
“Oh good! Now Thelma can join me as somebody that flunked out but made good. Except I did alot better than becoming a lousy insurance salesman.”
I always do seem to touch a nerve with pencilneck convert. Musta hurt his fee fees. That’s when he usually pulls out the “lousy insurance salesman” card. Hee hee hee. I woulda thought by now he could come up with something stronger than that. Guess not.
Keep driving that imaginary beer truck pencilneck. I’ll keep selling some more a that crappy insurance so I can pay taxes so that you get your disability check. Too funny. And I’ll getcha a new tonka truck.
Keep Up the Good Fight!
March 8th, 2013
1:19 pm
Bro, there has been more scarlet L’s handed out than a Bachelor rose ceremony…… but in the end, its apparent to all who the real L belongs too.
They call me MISTER JamVet.
March 8th, 2013
1:21 pm
A couple of other observations about Johnson…
On January 25, 2007, Johnson responded to U.S. President George W. Bush’s State of the Union address by criticizing the war in Iraq, saying “This war has proven to be one of the gravest missteps in the recent history of our country. It is time for President Bush to face the music and respond to the urgent demands of a frustrated country.
Hard to argue with that.
Johnson voted against the Troubled Asset Relief Program (TARP) bailout bill in November 2008.
Hard to argue with that.
Though the video clip of Guam seems perplexing, I’m not certain that a college graduate (Clark Atlanta University) and a graduate of Texas Southern University’s Thurgood Marshall School of Law in Houston in 1979; and who practiced law in Decatur, Georgia, for more than 25 years really does think that islands can capsize.
My estimation – he is one weird dude who likes to yank the cranks of ………………………. cranks…
Thulsa Doom
March 8th, 2013
1:23 pm
“After asserting that nobody in the GOP supported Akin after his case of word vomit, you said absolutely nothing else on that particular topic after proof was posted to prove you wrong.”
Brocephus,
Perhaps you need some help with your reading comprehension sir. I did not make the blanket statement that he got NO support from cons. If you will read the statement below you will see that I stated that he “DIDN’T GET MUCH SUPPORT FROM CONS ON THIS BOARD. OR FROM FELLOW R POLITICIANS….”. There is a helluva difference between saying he didn’t get much support and saying he got NO support at all.
Now what I would expect from you given that you were wrong and simply misread it is a simple acknowledgement of your reading mistake. But let me tell you something. I sure as shiite won’t be holding my breath waiting for it. Pot meet kettle.
“Whatever crazy shiite he said I don’t recall him getting much support at all from the cons on this board. Or from fellow R politicians who shunned him and asked him to step down from the senate race after such idiocy and let someone run who could have won.”
barking frog
March 8th, 2013
1:26 pm
JamVet
While stationed at Kadena AB on the island of Okinawa,
which is shaped like a mushroom from the seafloor up,
I often considered that an earthquake could break the
’stem’ and tip that sucker over.
Thulsa Doom
March 8th, 2013
1:27 pm
Sand flea nipping at the ankles again. Too funny.
They call me MISTER JamVet.
March 8th, 2013
1:27 pm
“I wasn’t suggesting that the island of Guam would literally tip over, I was using a metaphor to say that … the addition of 8,000 Marines and their dependents—an additional 80,000 people during peak construction on the tiny island with a population of 180,000—could be a tipping point which could adversely affect the island’s fragile ecosystem and could overburden its overstressed infrastructure.”
I believe him, rather than concluding that he does not even have a second grade understanding of earth sciences…
tevie ray
March 8th, 2013
1:27 pm
Thulsa
What is a DD-216? Is that some sort of sexual enhancement product?
Keep Up the Good Fight!
March 8th, 2013
1:28 pm
Fox News pundit Juan Williams has been caught lifting large portions of a Center for American Progress report for a recent column… It’s the second Fox News-related plagiarism episode of the past week. The network previously apologized for a column that lifted huge chunks of text from Politico, blaming it on a “reporting error.”
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/03/08/juan-williams-plagiarism-researcher_n_2836427.html
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
March 8th, 2013
1:29 pm
What HYPOCRISY !
Headline: “White House suspends public tours, but first family trips in full swing”
Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013/03/08/white-house-public-tours-on-hold-first-family-trips/#ixzz2MySykjI8
Thulsa Doom
March 8th, 2013
1:29 pm
Barking Frog,
Hot damn. That Hank Johnson retarded Congressman video was nothing short of hilarious. Be careful though. That may get you in trouble with the other libs.
Paul
March 8th, 2013
1:30 pm
JamVet
“My estimation – he is one weird dude who likes to yank the cranks of ………………………. cranks…”
Which leads to the question: which moniker does Johnson use on Jay’s blog?
stevie ray
March 8th, 2013
1:30 pm
BRO
I understand hooked on phonics is an exceptional program. Seems it’d take only a couple weeks work to stand up the likes of Doomster q