Jeb Bush has a principled stand on immigration. Several, in fact.
Last summer, Jeb Bush was in favor of offering illegal immigrants a path to citizenship. As he told Charlie Rose:
“You have to deal with this issue. You can’t ignore it, and so either a path to citizenship, which I would support — and that does put me probably out of the mainstream of most conservatives — or a path to legalization, a path to residency of some kind.”
In his new book, “Immigration Wars: Forging an American Solution”, Bush comes out in stalwart opposition to citizenship.
“It is absolutely vital to the integrity of our immigration system that actions have consequences — in this case, that those who violated the law can remain but cannot obtain the cherished fruits of citizenship. To do otherwise would signal once again that people who circumvent the system can still obtain the full benefits of American citizenship.”
Today on “Morning Joe”, Bush was back to his initial position. Kind of … He repeatedly stressed that the book was written last year, as if something had happened recently to alter what in the book seems to be a strong, principle-based opposition to a path to citizenship. He also argued that a path to legalization would not create a magnet for future illegal immigration, while a path to citizenship somehow would.
“If you don’t have a difference between a path to citizenship or a path to legalization, you’re going to create a magnet going forward for more illegal immigration. So going forward — we wrote this last year — going forward, if there is a difference, if you can craft that in law where you can have a path to citizenship where there isn’t an incentive for people to come illegally, I’m for it. I don’t have a problem with that.”
A couple of points:
1.) The Bush flip-flop-flip has angered veterans of Mitt Romney’s campaign, which last year felt stranded on unpopular ground with the candidate’s “self-deportation” approach.
“Where the hell was this Jeb Bush during the campaign?” one advisor told the Miami Herald. “He spent all this time criticizing Romney and it turns out he has basically the same position. So he wants people to go back to their country and apply for citizenship? Well, that’s self deportation. We got creamed for talking about that. And now Jeb is saying the same thing.”
2.) The distinction that Bush attempts to draw between legalization and citizenship in fact has little real consequence. Those who have immigrated here illegally were drawn by jobs, the chance to escape Third World living conditions or greater opportunity for their children. Getting U.S. citizenship was way, way down on their list. A nice possibility, maybe, but hardly a deciding factor.
The notion that a path to legalization would be a less powerful magnet than a path to citizenship makes no sense, and Bush is smart enough to know it. But when you’re caught tacking to the right when the political winds are blowing left, and when you have ambitions of becoming the third consecutive Republican president named Bush, you have to scramble a bit.
– Jay Bookman
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Welcome to the Occupation
March 6th, 2013
1:58 pm
Thomas Heyward,
A guy who’s a USPS employee — a government worker — just came to my door to deliver my mail. He has to trudge through a foot of snow to get to each house today. He seems like a pretty hard-working guy to me.
Is he a “parasite”?
DannyX
March 6th, 2013
1:58 pm
“changing your mind is not a “flip-flop” But changing it today, changing it back the tomorrow, and then changing it to your first change the next day IS”
Exactly.
They are not “flip-flops”, more like Etch-a-Sketch moments.
thomas Heyward Jr
March 6th, 2013
1:59 pm
They call me MISTER JamVet.
March 6th, 2013
1:48 pm
For the parasite-obsessed Tommy Wayward…
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Ifn you are going to post lame hippy shat…….at least make it worth it.
Dang neo-cons……………….can’t even get their music right.
sheeeesh.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AaRdMIlthrQ
thomas Heyward Jr
March 6th, 2013
2:00 pm
Welcome to the Occupation
March 6th, 2013
1:58 pm
Thomas Heyward,
A guy who’s a USPS employee — a government worker — just came to my door to deliver my mail. He has to trudge through a foot of snow to get to each house today. He seems like a pretty hard-working guy to me.
Is he a “parasite”?
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yes
Granny Godzilla
March 6th, 2013
2:02 pm
Welcome to the Occupation
March 6th, 2013
1:05 pm
Granny Godzilla: ” heard that Obuma is going to be a pallbearer at the funeral for Chavez. I am waiting to see the welfare president on TV shedding tears over the loss of one of his idols”
I know that it’s very important for you in maintaining your ideological orientation to assume that Obama held up Chavez as an idol. But as I’ve pointed out here tirelessly since yesterday, and will do so yet again, Obama and Chavez held each other in mutual contempt. Nothing at all in the way of an “idol” in that constellation.
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Welcome….You assumed I made that comment…..I was copying and responding to the poster
who presented us that claptrap.
You might want to look at my orientation a little closer…..
I know Obama thought Hugo was a goof.
thomas Heyward Jr
March 6th, 2013
2:03 pm
Welcome to the Occupation
March 6th, 2013
1:53 pm
Thomas Heyward: “Government workers and other assorted parasites ”
But what makes teachers, soldiers, police officers, municipal administrators, public works engineers, and all the sundry other people parasites, where for example Wall St. hedge fund and private equity managers are not? ?
In what exactly does their parasitism consist?
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If said Wall St. Hedge funds or private equity managers have Lobbyists………then they TOO are parasites.
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See Government Saches…Government Motors………………CITIBank…………JP Morgan…….etc……………………….
DannyX
March 6th, 2013
2:04 pm
thomas, you would probably be happier in a place like Somalia.
Granny Godzilla
March 6th, 2013
2:05 pm
Thomas
The Postal worker is a parasite too?
Reminds me of a scene in Mr. Deeds Goes to Town.
Gary Cooper gets the two little old ladies to admit everybody but themselves were
“pixielated”…..
Are you the only un-parasite in America?
Doggone/GA
March 6th, 2013
2:07 pm
“Are you the only un-parasite in America?”
If he is…he’s supporting one HELL of a lot of people!
Brosephus™
March 6th, 2013
2:07 pm
For the sake of decency………………….Government workers and other assorted parasites should refrain from quoting our greatest founding fathers.
I find it offensive.
If/When you gain credibility and become relevant, what you find might become relevant. Until that time arrives, what you find has the relevance of teats on a bull.
“If a jackass brays in the forest and nobody’s there to hear it, is it’s braying relevant?”
–Thomas Jefferson
Joe Hussein Mama
March 6th, 2013
2:09 pm
T. Heyward — “For the sake of decency………………….Government workers and other assorted parasites should refrain from quoting our greatest founding fathers.”
For the sake of decency, you will now be ignored by all government workers at the Georgia DMV. To make up for this situation, you will now receive extra-special attention from the “parasites” at the IRS.
thomas Heyward Jr
March 6th, 2013
2:13 pm
Doggone/GA
March 6th, 2013
2:07 pm
“Are you the only un-parasite in America?”
If he is…he’s supporting one HELL of a lot of people!
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No…………..not anymore.
.
I shrugged the Kenyan Brownshirt army of progs off about 6 years ago.
Me and millions of others.
thomas Heyward Jr
March 6th, 2013
2:15 pm
Joe Hussein Mama
March 6th, 2013
2:09 pm
T. Heyward — “For the sake of decency………………….Government workers and other assorted parasites should refrain from quoting our greatest founding fathers.”
For the sake of decency, you will now be ignored by all government workers at the Georgia DMV. To make up for this situation, you will now receive extra-special attention from the “parasites” at the IRS.
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Typical Prog.
Resort to violence, bribery, and intimidation.
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Bring it………………….weasel.
Brosephus™
March 6th, 2013
2:16 pm
GG @ 2:05
He’s no parasite. He’s Ron Paul’s lil b*tch.
Granny Godzilla
March 6th, 2013
2:18 pm
Bro
Lil?
BIG.
HUGE.
Rockerbabe
March 6th, 2013
2:18 pm
The various members of the GOP do not seem to know what they want, other than total control of the reproductive capabilities of the women of this country and for everyone to have guns. The GOP loves guns and control more than their children. The fact is the GOP is well stupid and you just can’t fix stupid. And, silly me, I thought Jeb Bush was one of the smarter Bushes1
DannyX
March 6th, 2013
2:19 pm
“He’s Ron Paul’s lil b*tch.”
Ron Paul is a government worker.
thomas Heyward Jr
March 6th, 2013
2:19 pm
Brosephus™
March 6th, 2013
2:07 pm
For the sake of decency………………….Government workers and other assorted parasites should refrain from quoting our greatest founding fathers.
I find it offensive.
If/When you gain credibility and become relevant, what you find might become relevant. Until that time arrives, what you find has the relevance of teats on a bull.
“If a jackass brays in the forest and nobody’s there to hear it, is it’s braying relevant?”
–Thomas Jefferson
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Decent people can survive without parasites.
But …..parasites can’t live woithout decent people…………… no matter how many hollow points and tanks ya’ll have.
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We’ll outlast ye……………………..bet me./……………..Bro.
Granny Godzilla
March 6th, 2013
2:20 pm
Bring it?
snicker
Joe Hussein Mama
March 6th, 2013
2:20 pm
T. Heyward — “Typical Prog. Resort to violence, bribery, and intimidation.”
Typical con. Got nothing but insults, namecalling and ignorance.
.
“Bring it………………….weasel.”
“Kiss it. Riiiiiiiight in the middle.”
– Nathan Hale
Granny Godzilla
March 6th, 2013
2:23 pm
Thomas is really not very good at being a bully.
It’s quite humorous.
thomas Heyward Jr
March 6th, 2013
2:23 pm
DannyX
March 6th, 2013
2:19 pm
“He’s Ron Paul’s lil b*tch.”
Ron Paul is a government worker.
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No he isn’t………………..dummy.
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He’s busy rallying the youth.
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You may now go and sit down to steady your knocking knees.
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You may ignore Personal Liberty and Freedom……………but personal Liberty and Freedom will not ignore YOU. One day……Uncle Sam will not be there to hold your hand.
Thomas Jeeter.
Welcome to the Occupation
March 6th, 2013
2:23 pm
thomas heyward: ” If said Wall St. Hedge funds or private equity managers have Lobbyists………then they TOO are parasites.”
Guess they’re parasites then. (They have armies of them.)
Regnad Kcin
March 6th, 2013
2:24 pm
“The Postal worker is a parasite too?”
“Parasite. You keep saying that word. I do not think it means what you think it means” – Thomas “Inigo Montoya” Jefferson
thomas Heyward Jr
March 6th, 2013
2:25 pm
Granny Godzilla
March 6th, 2013
2:23 pm
Thomas is really not very good at being a bully.
It’s quite humorous.
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Thank you Granny.
I’m not trying to be a bully.
I leave that to the Progs.
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I’m just being ………………………………………………………………………………me.
Granny Godzilla
March 6th, 2013
2:26 pm
Ron Paul is on social security……that taker! that parasite!
Granny Godzilla
March 6th, 2013
2:28 pm
THomas
Just being you….a rather humorous and ineffective bully……
Bringing it on …..snicker
Joe Hussein Mama
March 6th, 2013
2:28 pm
T. Heyward — “Decent people can survive without parasites.”
Good. Let’s see you do it.
Stop using our US Mail (Federal service)
Stop using our road systems, and goods and services that move upon it (planned, built at the direction of and maintained by Federal and State DOTs)
Stop using our air travel system, and goods and services that move via it (operated under the supervision of the FAA)
Stop using TV and radio (regulated by the FedGov)
Stop eating all food you don’t produce yourself (inspected by the USDA)
Stop using our banks (deposits insured by the FDIC and FSLIC).
Don’t ever call 911 again (service provided by local governments)
In case of natural disaster, you’re on your own (wouldn’t want National Guard or FEMA parasites to get you off the roof of your house and give you an MRE)
In short, just move out to the sticks of Alaska where there are no roads or utilities, build yourself a shack and let’s see you make it for two years on your own, Champ. Frankly, I bet you’d be peeing in your Underoos before the first night was halfway over.
“But …..parasites can’t live woithout decent people……………”
No, you certainly can’t, parasite. Without the work performed by those you deride as “parasites,” you’d have dried up and blown away a long time ago.
Regnad Kcin
March 6th, 2013
2:29 pm
“Ron Paul is on social security……that taker! that parasite!”
Along with the US military – all parasites! Right, TH,jr.?
mm
March 6th, 2013
2:30 pm
“I’m just being ………………………………………………………………………………me.”
The cons just can’t help themselves. They’re wired to be morons.
DannyX
March 6th, 2013
2:31 pm
“No he isn’t………………..dummy.”
You are right, he has been off of his government job for 2 whole months now. Parasite Paul worked for the government for 35 years.
Now Parasite Paul is living off of his government pension.
Joe Hussein Mama
March 6th, 2013
2:31 pm
T. Heyward — “I’m not trying to be a bully”
Well, that’s good. Because you’re certainly not *succeeding* at being one.
“It’s a fine and beautiful nation, and the people are kind and generous. Except for the conservative d-bags you find here and there.”
– The Marquis de Lafayette
Normal, Plain and Simple
March 6th, 2013
2:32 pm
Yeah, I was wondering that since I receive a military retirement check and starting the end of this month a Social security, am I a parasite? If I am, then all I can say is……………gotta love it!
getalife
March 6th, 2013
2:33 pm
We already knew tom is a con kook.
Brosephus™
March 6th, 2013
2:33 pm
Heyward
Your lame shtick is getting tiring. It was tiring when you used the name jt, and it’s just as tiring now. Your display of ignorance is truly laudable, even as you denigrate the very people who die to protect your freedom to spew your bullsh*t. Why don’t you practice what you preach and protect your own freedom instead of being a parasite and depending on others to do it for you. People such as you are the true parasites, but you have your head uRon Paul’s and Alex Jones’s ass to see it.
Brosephus™
March 6th, 2013
2:35 pm
*head up
They call me MISTER JamVet.
March 6th, 2013
2:37 pm
Wayward is just another weird far right wing lightweight/semi-literate drama queen (parasite!) with a slightly different shtick. Different, but not really any more interesting or clever than the garden variety flamer.
And if anyone here thinks the guy has the intellectual firepower to actually debate in detail or even substantiate his endless conspiracy theories (parasite!), at least in more than five word responses, good luck with getting it out of him!
The best analogy I can come up with for him is four corner basketball before they implemented the shot clock. (Think Fort Wayne Pistons defeating the Minneapolis Lakers by a record-low score of 19-18.)
Boooooorrring…. Boooooorrring…. Boooooorrring….
Granny Godzilla
March 6th, 2013
2:38 pm
Danny X
According to reporting while Ron Paul does accept social security he does not take the pension.
.5 Parasite?
DannyX
March 6th, 2013
2:46 pm
“.5 Parasite?”
Granny, can I offer a compromise? .75 Parasite? After all, he was a government worker for 35 years, you shouldn’t be able to shed that overnight. Right thomas?
Granny Godzilla
March 6th, 2013
2:51 pm
DannyX
You drive a hard bargain…..but okee dokee
They call me MISTER JamVet.
March 6th, 2013
2:52 pm
You gotta love the lamestream media’s Conservative News Network.
Vis a vis Jeb talking publicly about running for president,they’re referring to some of the reaction as “Bush fatigue”.
Hysterical. Is that what the kids are calling it these days?
And just to show you how much CNN is in the Republican Party’s pockets they wrote:
Brother George W. Bush served two terms but left office in January 2009 as a very unpopular president, even among Republicans, who were angered by his support of federal spending increases and his 2008 bailout of Wall Street during the financial crisis.
Do tell?
GWB had a 75% approval rating by Republicans in January 2009.
CNN has become the new Fox News…
Regnad Kcin
March 6th, 2013
2:52 pm
What the heck…
SONS OF CONFEDERATE VETERANS!
Welcome to the Occupation
March 6th, 2013
2:53 pm
Sorry Granny, I have a bad tendency to do that now and again (ask JamVet).
Welcome to the Occupation
March 6th, 2013
2:55 pm
So for the record, Thomas Heyward thinks the postal worker who’s trudging through a foot of snow today delivering mail is a “parasite”. This without offering the slightest justification for this view. Leaving us to assume the only reason he holds this view is that it’s a vague cue he’s picked up from his “thought leaders” at places like the Rupert Murdoch political propaganda empire.
Granny Godzilla
March 6th, 2013
2:57 pm
Welcome….No problem sweetie……
Welcome to the Occupation
March 6th, 2013
2:58 pm
JamVet: “CNN has become the new Fox News…”
And they admit it quite freely in fact (they admit pretty openly that FOX, not MSNBC or some other outlet, is the real game they’re hunting.)
Which is even more disturbing.
Doggone/GA
March 6th, 2013
3:02 pm
“SONS OF CONFEDERATE VETERANS!”
Waste of time. Jay took the rest of the week off
Normal, Plain and Simple
March 6th, 2013
3:04 pm
Enter your comments here
That Black Guy
March 6th, 2013
3:05 pm
Recon throwing it out hoping it will stick.Recon when you are saying the democrats have done nothing for the blacks.Please list what the republicans have done for the blacks.
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You didn’t ask me, but IMO that is the wrong question.
For me, the question isn’t “what have R/D’s done for me”, it’s “what do I WANT them to do for me”?
The answer? The same as they do for EVERYBODY else.
I want BOTH parties to stop treating me as if I have no brain.
Repub – “Blacks are stuck on the Dem plantation.”
Dem – “Blacks need us, without us, repubs will have them swinging from trees”
That is the insulting ish that I hate from both parties. The broadbrush generalities that are used to stuff people into boxes.
Just like ALL Blacks aren’t (fill in the blank) and all Native Americans aren’t (fill in the blank), ALL dems or repubs do not neatly fir in a particular box.
Don’t believe me? Just ask my 70 year old republician uncle who lives out side of Philly.
A republician who is not a white, southern, baptist, racist, redneck.
Also, he has his masters in math, so he does math and is not stupid.
But please, keep trying to stuff him into that box.
Normal, Plain and Simple
March 6th, 2013
3:05 pm
Whoops! Wrong button…
That’s what the ICBM tech said too…
They call me MISTER JamVet.
March 6th, 2013
3:07 pm
Welcome, but to shuck and grin for the Bush apolgists like that???
Lordy be.
I guess the imploding GOP needs all the help they can get…
Normal, worse than that! You’ll be a double dipping parasite!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JqRvitT9T8o
Brosephus™
March 6th, 2013
3:07 pm
TBG
Standing ovation!!!!!
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Normal
Erwin's cat
March 6th, 2013
3:10 pm
The Black Guy – Great post @ 3:05
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
March 6th, 2013
3:13 pm
Leaving us to assume the only reason he holds this view is that it’s a vague cue he’s picked up from his “thought leaders” at places like the Rupert Murdoch political propaganda empire.
Before Fox News there was Atlas Shrugged.
Erwin's cat
March 6th, 2013
3:14 pm
RIP AL:
Guitarist Alvin Lee has died unexpectedly and suddenly in Spain after what was supposed to be routine surgery, according to his family.
Doggone/GA
March 6th, 2013
3:15 pm
“Before Fox News there was Atlas Shrugged”
I heard a short interview this AM with a Pakistani writer, who is also a business consultant. He spoke about the push here in the US to “get government out of the way of business” (not his quote) and he said if you want to know what it will be like…it will be like Pakistan. Corrupt, exploitive…and not pretty.
Cheesy Grits
March 6th, 2013
3:15 pm
A guy who’s a USPS employee — a government worker — just came to my door to deliver my mail. He has to trudge through a foot of snow to get to each house today. He seems like a pretty hard-working guy to me.
This is what they dont understand. They like to think about the government as black helicoptors, Area 54 and conspiracies.
The governement is mostly made up of hard working people, Real Americans who want to serve in a public way.
The Government can be what we all agree on and come together to do for the common good.
Anothe reason Cons hate Government. They REALLY REALLY suck at governing.
Regnad Kcin
March 6th, 2013
3:17 pm
“RIP AL:
Guitarist Alvin Lee has died unexpectedly and suddenly in Spain after what was supposed to be routine surgery, according to his family.”
He indeed “changed the world.”
Doggone/GA
March 6th, 2013
3:17 pm
“Anothe reason Cons hate Government. They REALLY REALLY suck at governing”
And don’t you forget it!
Doggone/GA
March 6th, 2013
3:18 pm
“Guitarist Alvin Lee has died unexpectedly and suddenly in Spain after what was supposed to be routine surgery, according to his family.””
I’m sorry to hear that…but when *I* had surgery, my doctor told me there IS no “routine” surgery
Granny Godzilla
March 6th, 2013
3:19 pm
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10022465196
Clever Toon
DannyX
March 6th, 2013
3:20 pm
“They REALLY REALLY suck at governing”
This sucker could go down.
-George Jefferson Bush
Fred ™
March 6th, 2013
3:22 pm
Damn Backwards Nick, that’s sad news indeed……. and yet another sign I’m getting old…….. RIP Alvin. I was privileged enough to see them in 88 or 89 in Germany the last time. It was a reunion tour and I don’t know if they ever came to the States. Jefferson Airplane was re-united as well at that concert and Jethro Tull was there. Out in the Green in Nuremberg.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RBAwv49slC8
They call me MISTER JamVet.
March 6th, 2013
3:22 pm
Alvin Lee is gone?
Oh no.
I saw him once in Lakeland, Florida, Must have been in 1974. All I really remember is that he was the kind of guy with the stage presence that I could not take my eyes off of him. And of course there was that blistering guitar work at Woodstock that lit everybody up.
I’m glad you shared the news with us cat, but damn, this sure is a downer.
Now he will have to play forever in my memories…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qvj99sK1Gl0
Fred ™
March 6th, 2013
3:25 pm
How cool. I just found a bootleg recording of Tull from that Out in the Green Concert:
http://soundaboard.blogspot.com/2011/02/jethro-tull-out-in-green-1988.html
Erwin's cat
March 6th, 2013
3:25 pm
Hopefully it’s not too late for Jay to memorialize him Friday Evening
barking frog
March 6th, 2013
3:26 pm
The sequester sucks because it is a knee jerk response to the
demand of the people to rein in government spending. The tea
party is riding this demand without trying to fulfill it. It’s like the
local school board cutting bus service as a first response to
tax revenue shortfall. Squeeze the taxpayer. The fact that there
was no planning that went into the sequestration bill is plain to
see and that falls onto the Congress and the President. At this
time we do not have planning to fix the sequester, just planning
to somehow protect my constituency by all concerned. Sad.
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
March 6th, 2013
3:27 pm
Doggone/GA
Of course.
We only have to look at the past thirty years of deregulation and see how much they try to get around what regulation remains.
And then there’s the fiasco of the totally unregulated derivatives market that Brooksley Born warned about.
Doggone/GA
March 6th, 2013
3:29 pm
“The sequester sucks because it is a knee jerk response to the
demand of the people to rein in government spending”
It’s worse than that. It’s a plea from help from people who cannot control themselves: STOP US before we do something even MORE stupid
Bunch of jerks, can’t even stop themselves from passing spending bills…so they have to beg someone else to do what they CAN’T.
They call me MISTER JamVet.
March 6th, 2013
3:29 pm
The entire A Space in Time LP was insanely good and no true rock collection is complete without it.
I played it endlessly.
The multilayered harmonica work on this one smokes…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nrwk9SvdaLk
Joe Hussein Mama
March 6th, 2013
3:34 pm
TBG — “Also, he has his masters in math, so he does math and is not stupid.”
As the first Mrs. JHM was a grad student in Math, I can attest to the “not stupid” portion of your comment.
Joe Hussein Mama
March 6th, 2013
3:36 pm
C. Grits — “Anothe reason Cons hate Government. They REALLY REALLY suck at governing.”
Republicans are the party that says government doesn’t work. Then they go get themselves elected and prove it.
– P. J. O’Rourke
barking frog
March 6th, 2013
3:44 pm
Uncle Jam
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3-PxCmynlDE&list=AL94UKMTqg-9Cpsp5hpUKHJ6FQ6nWCCd8K
stands for decibels
March 6th, 2013
3:52 pm
Yeah, I saw Alvin Lee live, once, myself. not a huge fan of that kind of boogie-bluesy thing but he was an incredibly talented practitioner within that genre, and it’s sad to lose him.
BADA BING (imagine an umlaut above the i, I'm trying to class this place up a little)
March 6th, 2013
3:55 pm
Chavez…..muey dead, mas dead. He and Castro were best buddies, looks like that vaunted free, Cuban health care system could not save him from the secret cancer program that Bush developed, and infected him with.
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
March 6th, 2013
4:00 pm
Chavez…..muey dead, mas dead.
Yep.
Just like Breitbart.
stands for decibels
March 6th, 2013
4:00 pm
muey dead, mas dead.
“It’s like, how much more dead could this be? and the answer is none. None more dead. ”
–Thomas “Nigel Tufnel” Jefferson
barking frog
March 6th, 2013
4:02 pm
How do the Russians feel about the death of chavez ?
http://english.pravda.ru/russia/economics/06-03-2013/123984-russia_venezuela-0/
Keep Up the Good Fight!
March 6th, 2013
4:05 pm
Bring out your dead!
barking frog
March 6th, 2013
4:09 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XacvydVrhuI
BADA BING (imagine an umlaut above the i, I'm trying to class this place up a little)
March 6th, 2013
4:10 pm
I was in Venezuela 10 years ago, Caracas, Magarita Island, and Los Roques. I was shortchanged at many stores and restaurants, and made them give me correct change. They think all gringos are stupid, and did not like Americans.You may have a different story, but that is the way it happened to me. A taxi driver asked me if I wanted to stop and see Castro Park on Margarita Island, and I said “Hell No”, I am an American.
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
March 6th, 2013
4:14 pm
I said “Hell No”, I am an American.
So’s Castro.
They call me MISTER JamVet.
March 6th, 2013
4:16 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=endscreen&v=XBM6wdMq8CI&NR=1
Brosephus™ - Comin' straight out of Compton
March 6th, 2013
4:19 pm
Anothe reason Cons hate Government. They REALLY REALLY suck at governing.
And the continuously campaign on the message that government is broken, yet they control government in 30 states, as some of the cons here like to brag. Effective government is the antithesis to their stranglehold on power, so they have to f**k government up to stay in power.
In reality, they might not suck if they actually tried to govern effectively. Their mindset, however, dicates they f**k things up so they can campaign on how broken government is so they can maintain their office.
getalife
March 6th, 2013
4:21 pm
I remember when cheney would go on all the talk shows and call rand a unpatriotic terrorist sympathizer
And the cons would cheer..
getalife
March 6th, 2013
4:23 pm
Now, the cons say they care about freedom but that ship sailed under w.
Hypocrites and flip floppers.
BADA BING (imagine an umlaut above the i, I'm trying to class this place up a little)
March 6th, 2013
4:26 pm
Bush (Dr. Evil and his Super Secret Cancer Infecting Machine) …..1
Chavez ( Leftist Hero and not a Dictator at all)…………………………0
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
March 6th, 2013
4:29 pm
I said “Hell No”, I am an American.
So was Chavez.
Keep Up the Good Fight!
March 6th, 2013
4:32 pm
Brosephus, a friend just forwarded one of those “emails” that claims to be about a NO attorney who did a title report on LA land back to 1803 and the “FHA says he has to get a title report all the way to the original owner”. Then the attorney allegedly sends back this smartarse letter about how the LA purchase was done in 1803 from France, France got it from Spain, Columbus discovered America (that ought to just PO josef
) and he was charged by god…. Conclusion: See how inept govt is and this is who you want to control healthcare?
Of course, there is never a title requirement that title goes back to the “origin” (wouldn’t that be the big bang?). But the same stupid joke has been around since the 1930’s per snopes. http://www.snopes.com/humor/letters/landgrab.asp But this is the kind of stupidity the GOP swallows and uses to create the fiction that government is the problem.
pogo
March 6th, 2013
4:33 pm
Obama wants the power to use drones to kill Americans in their own country without a trial. And where is the liberal outrage? Not here. This whole blog is full of “play” liberals who ultimately are willing to sell out their belief system ( if they even have one) in order to feed at the public trough. All they want is their government “check” that enables them to sit at their computer all day typing on this blog. News flash! If you spend your whole life on some meaningless blog you by no stretch of the imagination are relevant.
barking frog
March 6th, 2013
4:37 pm
pogo
Obama wants the power to use drones to kill Americans in their own country without a trial
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that will put a new slant on budget negotiations….
YouLibs
March 6th, 2013
4:37 pm
pogo
I’m a liberal and I am outraged about the drones. The rest of your post is pretty much full of it, too.
Granny Godzilla
March 6th, 2013
4:38 pm
pogo
March 6th, 2013
4:33 pm
Obama wants the power to use drones to kill Americans in their own country without a trial
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AH, nope.
getalife
March 6th, 2013
4:38 pm
pogo,
Where were you when w stole freedom?
The left started large protests.
You cons have one gop filibustering but your party agrees with our President.
Way late to the freedom protests pogo.
Are you a hypocrite flip flopper?
You called the left unpatriotic terrorist sympathizers.
Brosephus™ - Comin' straight out of Compton
March 6th, 2013
4:38 pm
But this is the kind of stupidity the GOP swallows and uses to create the fiction that government is the problem.
Exactly, and the gullible fall for it hook, line, and sinker. Nevermind the fact that this “inept” government has kept us safe and in existence for more than 200 years. Also, the synapses in their brain fail to make the connection when realizing this government protects and supports the world’s sole superpower nation.
But, in their simpleton brains, the government is the problem. If we’re where we are with a problematic government, I’d hate to see where we would be with an effective government.
Granny Godzilla
March 6th, 2013
4:39 pm
barking frog
coming soon
Hurts Rent a Drone
Domestic violence on steroids.
Cheesy Grits
March 6th, 2013
4:40 pm
Obama wants the power to use drones to kill Americans in their own country without a trial
Your right
In extreme we have to stop Timothy McViegh circumstances.
You left that part out.
getalife
March 6th, 2013
4:42 pm
They will need it for rw hate groups.
President Obama will drone you pogo.
They call me MISTER JamVet.
March 6th, 2013
4:42 pm
Chick Churchill’s kickass piano playing drives this one…
Cuz it’s a good life
Too good to lose
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aGpGQYbOzg8
barking frog
March 6th, 2013
4:42 pm
Granny Godzilla
it will certainly spice up Cheaters..