It is not racism to try to help DeKalb students

“Though the public has an interest in its elected officials being able to serve in the offices to which they’ve been elected, there is an even greater public interest at stake here. The interest of the public in a healthy school system outweighs the interests of the board members in serving in their positions.”

Those two simple sentences, written by U.S. District Court Judge Richard Story in his ruling Monday, capture the essence of the controversy surrounding the DeKalb County School Board.

Students are more important than politicians. Not exactly rocket science, right? Yet too many members of the school board lost sight of that fact, assuming a degree of inflated self-importance that made an already difficult district impossible to govern. The fact that those members — most prominent among them Eugene Walker — continue to operate under the delusion of their own ego, even after reminders to the contrary by the state Board of Education, the governor, the DeKalb public and now a federal judge, speaks volumes.

In the wake of Monday’s ruling, the six members of the board suspended by Gov. Nathan Deal should resign, in the interest of those they supposedly serve.

Unfortunately, Walker and other board members have been encouraged in their obstinance by others who have lost track of priorities. Last week, leaders of the Georgia and DeKalb County chapters of the NAACP stood on the steps of the Capitol to condemn the governor for daring to intervene on behalf of DeKalb’s students, and went on to suggest that his actions were motivated by racism.

It is hard to understand the misplaced priorities that drive such statements, and hard to ignore the damage they can do in such a sensitive situation. Yes, racism does still exist, and it does still affect governmental policy and action, from health care to education to transportation. But crying racism as a political tactic, with no evidence that it is playing a role, cheapens the problem. It also ends up encouraging the very attitude that it supposedly condemns.

One important manifestation of racism is apathy — the malign neglect of struggling minority communities by a majority that cannot be bothered to care. If racism was the governor’s motivation, the easy thing to have done was absolutely nothing. Deal and the state Board of Education could have washed their hands of the problem and allowed events to take their course. And we all know what that course would have been:

Hamstrung by its board, the district would be stripped of its accreditation by the Southern Association of Colleges and Schools, which had already put it on probation. Loss of accreditation would in turn have devalued property throughout the county, and more importantly it would devalue the diplomas of DeKalb graduates.

The crisis would snowball from there. With accreditation lost, the competition and distrust between communities within the district would explode. Political clamor would grow for private alternatives to the public-school model. Armed with a major crisis in the state’s third-largest school system, a conservative Republican such as Deal could have used the opportunity to open the doors further to vouchers and private charter schools.

Instead, he chose to intervene and accept a degree of ownership in the problem. For that, he is rewarded by so-called community leaders with suggestions of racism?

It’s important to note that other black elected leaders, including House Minority Leader Stacey Abrams, a Democrat and a DeKalb resident, have stood in public support of Deal’s decision. Like the governor, they have nothing to gain politically by such a step, and in fact take a risk by reaching across partisan and racial lines on such a potentially emotional issue. But they too recognize that the education of schoolchildren must take precedence.

The NAACP leaders, on the other hand, show little sign of being motivated by such concerns. Their interest was much more narrow: trying to save the positions of the six board members, five of them black, who had been suspended by the governor. Despite the noble history of their organization, they have acted as if the “P” in NAACP stood for “politicians.”

It stands for “people”.

— Jay Bookman

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Granny Godzilla

March 5th, 2013
7:48 am

“One important manifestation of racism is apathy — the malign neglect of struggling minority communities by a majority that cannot be bothered to care. If racism was the governor’s motivation, the easy thing to have done was absolutely nothing. Deal and the state Board of Education could have washed their hands of the problem and allowed events to take their course”

Extremely well said Jay.

Fred ™

March 5th, 2013
7:48 am

Actually Jay, race IS at play. The 6 members being removed were very racially motivated. The FIRST qualification THEY looked for in a candidate was skin color. Which is why they deadlocked and were ineffective.

Jay

March 5th, 2013
7:51 am

Fred, I would never argue that race hasn’t played a major role in this mess.

DannyX

March 5th, 2013
7:52 am

The NAACP stood by for years and watched the school system crumble. Not once did they show concern for the many black kids in the system. As test scores plunged, they remained silent. Now that the spot light is on the system they decide to join the action by supporting an incompetent board. So much for the advancement of black people. The NAACP should have been all over that board years ago supporting the students. Enjoy the spot light, that’s what your mission is all about these days, right?

Escaped from Email Purgatory

March 5th, 2013
7:52 am

Eloquent blog, Bookman. You hit this one outta the park. “There’s a drive….!”

Looks like I’m an early commenter, so perhaps you’re still rounding third headed for home as I press “submit comment”.

Don’t cheese for the crowd, dude. The pitcher will remember and next time you’re at the plate…

Dtruth

March 5th, 2013
7:53 am

A Republican did something right? Jay you are slipping.

The Fallen

March 5th, 2013
7:58 am

What is going on here? I actually agree with Jay on something! Well written Mr Bookman. Wait…is this one of the 7 seven signs of the Apocalypse?

Have a good day everyone.

Peadawg

March 5th, 2013
8:00 am

“Last week, leaders of the Georgia and DeKalb County chapters of the NAACP stood on the steps of the Capitol to condemn the governor for daring to intervene on behalf of DeKalb’s students, and went on to suggest that his actions were motivated by racism”

Everything’s racism to those idiots. The NAACP’s time passed a loooong time ago.

Stevie Ray

March 5th, 2013
8:01 am

JAY

Great perspective. I would like to point out that the term “Students are more important than politicians” is interesting. Politicians and their re-election always trump the needs of all of us. What happened in DeKalb is simply a microcosm of the macro culture here. No pun intended but this is nothing other than a trickle down example of how dysfunctional our system really is…..you think the federal government gives more credence to students than themselves? The efforts and wasted money invested at that level speaks volumes…

straitroad

March 5th, 2013
8:01 am

Jay, I have to give you credit for going against the grain on this and writing an article that doesn’t criticize a republican just because he is a republican. I disagree with the decision by Deal though. I don’t believe in removing elected officials. Dekalb county voted them in and the citizens/parents of that county won’t learn anything because Deal has bailed them out.

DannyX

March 5th, 2013
8:02 am

“A Republican did something right? Jay you are slipping.”

Well Dtruth, Gov Deal still hasn’t picked the replacement board, this thing ain’t over yet. Chip Rogers could get a place on the board. Deal may have one or two friends and family members that haven’t gotten a government job yet, he could appoint them.

Fred ™

March 5th, 2013
8:03 am

It’s a damn shame really. When you look at Dr. Walker’s qualifications on paper one would think him to be an excellent choice. While I’m glad they are gone I’m not as convinced of Deal’s altruistic motivations as you Jay. But you make an excellent point about him doing it now rather than later. I had never thought of it like that.

I also am still uncomfortable about ONE elected official nullifying the votes of 6 districts to appoint whom HE wants to appoint. In the next election there is nothing to stop the meat heads who elected these 6 to returning them back to the board. I was very disappointed in the districts that re-elected their useless incumbents. In my District and two others we the voters did our jobs and booted the useless dead wood out.

I still think this will be tossed in a Constitutional hearing for the reasons DDR stated yesterday. Although what will happen then will be a cluster as new members will already be sitting and ruling.

I also think that any of these 6 who carry legal action further need to pay for it. Hell let the NCAAP bring suit if they are so sure it’s racially motivated……….

Stevie Ray

March 5th, 2013
8:03 am

DannyX

March 5th, 2013
7:52 am

Do you suppose there are personal, more practical reasons the self serving NAACP stayed on the sideline in this event? Seems there is a predictable cycle of influence of such groups in which self serving becomes the ultimate goal…

Stevie Ray

March 5th, 2013
8:05 am

Fred ™

March 5th, 2013
8:03 am

Hate to admit it Fred but your second paragraph is masterful…too bad this is what it took. It seems in retrospect that thats what it takes to bust up self serving collusion…

Vinny

March 5th, 2013
8:08 am

Welcome to the Weenie-blog! Let the bedwetting begin!

Stevie Ray

March 5th, 2013
8:09 am

Ronald Reagan Parkway

March 5th, 2013
8:10 am

There is no doubt that the members of the board should be removed; but to give the Governor that much power is ludicrous. The law to give Nathan Deal that much power was passed by the Georgia Legislature, but it is terribly flawed. It is time to put the students first and most of the parents in the DeKalb School system wanted the board members removed. On the other hand, who is monitoring the Southern Association of Colleges and Schools organization? Should they be investigated as well?

Jay

March 5th, 2013
8:11 am

Parkway, I share a lot of those sentiments as well.

Give it a rest, Fwed...

March 5th, 2013
8:12 am

…Jay is dead on on this one – though, of course, but you fail to even consider what the real issues are – some of the “removed from the board” were white, unless you failed to see that through your skewed colored glasses…

And, it is not necessarily a north Dekalb vs south Dekalb thing, it is a quality of education thing, and as a proud graduate of a Dekalb County HS (Clarkston Angoras, Class of 1971), I say, to you, Fwed, STFU…

Doggone/GA

March 5th, 2013
8:12 am

“The FIRST qualification THEY looked for in a candidate was skin color”

That’s not racisim, it’s bigotry

In the middle

March 5th, 2013
8:13 am

Nothing much to say except, “well said”.

larry

March 5th, 2013
8:15 am

I have to disagree strongly with this. So the governor replaces school board members on the recomondations of the state Board of Education, whose members are appointed by ……….
the governor.

And who is overseeing the acreditation agency? This is not a national acreditation agency, it is a southern acreditation agency. How are members appointed ?

This isnt about racism . Its funny that people who are concerned with government overreach in Washington have no problem with it coming from Atlanta.

Uh, Fwed...

March 5th, 2013
8:16 am

…give it a rest – Jay is dead on on this one – though, of course, but you fail to even consider what the real issues are – some of the “removed from the board” were white, unless you failed to see that through your skewed colored glasses…

And, it is not necessarily a north Dekalb vs south Dekalb thing, it is a quality of education thing, and as a proud graduate of a Dekalb County HS (Clarkston Angoras, Class of 1971), I say, Go GOATS…

And, Jay, do you really think the SACS is really a biased organization? Puhlease, they only accredit about 10,000 schools, and only discredit those that are deserving…

GT

March 5th, 2013
8:16 am

These members will be replaced by black members so it will be hard, at the end of the day, to call it racism. Conservatives love to think the middle and left are all about an agenda that waters down the end product. Democrats have never been about tokenism. Nothing token about Obama, can’t say the same about Clarence Thomas. Democrats understand the heart and it hasn’t turned cold for love of money.

This reminds me of the events in Detroit. The Republican governor coming in the city and taking over a bankrupt situation, state actually claiming responsibility of a city and its citizens in a monetary situation. What a great time for Republican to show they are not the dysfunctional bigots of the last election. Let see how it plays out. It will be interesting to see if we get Herman Cain or Horace Reed types.

The grassroots not the government is destroying the American economy. We have lost community in too big to fail. You see failure in community all the time, and help in that community to get back on its feet. We were a great country when we had it, let’s see if the Republicans can understand that.

Moderate Line

March 5th, 2013
8:16 am

I have mixed emotions about this. Removal of elected officials at any level sets a bad precedent. It is great to triumph that students are more important than politicians but almost all antidemocratic actions usually have some stated higher purpose.

Simple Truths

March 5th, 2013
8:18 am

Jay, good blog. Continue to turn up the broiler!

barking frog

March 5th, 2013
8:20 am

Sometimes these people just don’t know what’s best for them.
Yeah right, where have we heard that before?

larry

March 5th, 2013
8:21 am

If the good people of DeKalb county have a problem with their school board, recall them. The 6 members of the school board , their term ends in 2014. Vote them out.

This is yet another screw up by the state legislature, giving whole and absolute power to a governor.
Be it Republican or Democrat, it is just wrong and i am suprised the judge didnt rule it unconsititutional.

And yet people called Roy Barnes , King Roy? King Nathan!!

Moderate Line

March 5th, 2013
8:22 am

Fred ™ @8:03 am

I also am still uncomfortable about ONE elected official nullifying the votes of 6 districts to appoint whom HE wants to appoint. In the next election there is nothing to stop the meat heads who elected these 6 to returning them back to the board. I was very disappointed in the districts that re-elected their useless incumbents. In my District and two others we the voters did our jobs and booted the useless dead wood out.

I believe you make a good point. The threshold should be higher than this. One person should not have the call on such a deceision.

I am not saying these guys should not be removed but to give such power to one person who could be politically motivated seems a little dangerous.

guy

March 5th, 2013
8:22 am

Fred, great comment. People always assume racism from whites only. So wrong! As long as the world keeps turning racism and wars and disagreements are here to stay. Sad but true.

commoncents

March 5th, 2013
8:22 am

Good for Deal. Hopefully he appoints competent blacks so that the NAACP can quit whining about racism. However, now the issue will be that they aren’t black enough…

Fred ™

March 5th, 2013
8:24 am

I love how my stalker keeps his/her head up their rearend in the attempts to attack me and fails to fully read or comprehend what I write.

Mr. no name cowardly stalker (probably the same one from Maureens blog): I never said there weren’t white people removed from the board. You know why? Because, unlike YOU I knew what I was writing about.

If you will carefully peruse my post and then use some powers of observation and deduction you will see that by stating that their 1st qualification being skin color they created DEADLOCK any reasonably intelligent person could assume there must be more than one color represented. You can’t have DEADLOCK if everyone agrees on something you annoying little stalker.

Please get your facts correct in your pathetic attempts to discredit me. If I have to have a stalker, I would prefer one intelligent enough to do a good job. I don’t want some half assed incompetent stalker. Do a better job please.

indigo

March 5th, 2013
8:25 am

There are many “African-Americans” who walk around with a huge chip on one shoulder and incredibly sensitive antennas on the other ready to yell “racism” at the slightest hint.

These people are professional victims who wallow in self pity and are unable to face their own shortcommings.

They blame the white man for anything and everything they can think of.
This allows them the denial of any personal responsibility and an existence in a perpetual state of righteous indignation.

This sorry state of affairs also helps to explain why civil rights progress has pretty much ground to a halt.

Stevie Ray

March 5th, 2013
8:25 am

Uh, Fwed…

March 5th, 2013
8:16 am

Careful. I’m a ‘79 graduate from Chamblee High…

If those dopes are not doing their jobs, shoot them. It really doesn’t matter to me how….

Jay, is this appeal friendly? If so, I’m not taking odds in favor of it being upheld…

Jm

March 5th, 2013
8:26 am

Nice post jay

If you can see the light on teacher disincentives like seniority based advancement an other hurdles that place students second to teachers, it will be a watershed moment

Though it may take a crisis for that to become apparent

Fred ™

March 5th, 2013
8:26 am

I have to admit I don’t know the skin color of the school board member I helped to elect.

Jay

March 5th, 2013
8:27 am

Just to review the system, a 14-member state Board of Education took 14 hours of testimony from DeKalb board members and others and then voted unanimously to recommend to the governor that the six board members be removed. So it is not one person acting arbitrarily.

Jm

March 5th, 2013
8:27 am

Students are the customer

Students come first

Taxpayers come second

Teachers come third

Politicians come last

Stevie Ray

March 5th, 2013
8:28 am

indigo

March 5th, 2013
8:25 am

Good point but I often wonder what does the perfect outcome look like for those who’s civil rights progress you suggest has come to a standstill?

Li'l Aynie

March 5th, 2013
8:28 am

Something’s wrong with the “system” when the Governor has to step in to remove duly-elected, fully incompetent, minor officials.

The DeKalb and Forsyth school problems, and a host of other local administrative fiascos across Georgia and the nation, have a common root cause: too many elective offices. Voters are faced with multipage ballots to elect everybody from President, Congressmen, members of the legislature, members of the city/county councils, members of school boards, judges, the coroner, and the dogcatcher, as well as decide a bunch of amendments and resolutions. Who knows, or wants to know, the scores of jerks on the ballot? Who wants to research the amendments and resolutions that the Legislature should decide?

Sensible voters don’t select a candidate for an office if they don’t know anything about the contenders. Others choose at random. Worse, many choose according to the political affiliation of the candidate. Wonder how a Republican coroner or dog-catcher differs from a Democrat one?

The notion that there is anything “democratic” about voter choice in filling minor state and local offices is deception. Americans are no good at choosing the best candidate for an elective office. We are a quarrelsome lot: half of us will always disagree with the other half. Our strong suite is the criticism, stalking, and hounding of elected officials.

We need a few elective office with broad accountability, rather than lots of elective offices with diffuse responsibility and accountability. Let’s have a unicameral Legislature with only 12 members. Let’s have County and City Executives with powers to manage all local issues, including appointment of school superintendents, tax collectors, coroners, and dogcatchers. Then, we’ll be able to hold elected politicians responsible for successes and failures. Then, we won’t have to endure the fiasco of the Governor removing duly elected minor officials.

Redneck Convert (R--and proud of it)

March 5th, 2013
8:30 am

Well, things is looking up. Maybe they’ll put the Whites back in charge and put a prison guard with lots of time spent kicking A and not even bothering with taking names in charge of edumacating them young thugs.

Have a good Tuesday everybody.

commoncents

March 5th, 2013
8:30 am

I don’t think anyone wants to see their elected official removed from office without a majority vote, however, I feel this was necessary. The children are suffering, and the school board wanted to play politics about it and not take any correctional action.

While Deal is at it, Clayton has a criminal sheriff who should be in jail. And he was re-elected…

barking frog

March 5th, 2013
8:30 am

Fred 8:26
I have to admit I don’t know the skin color of the school board member I helped to elect
……………………………………………………………………………….
and that’s the way it should be…….

Stevie Ray

March 5th, 2013
8:30 am

Jm

March 5th, 2013
8:27 am

I suggest you stop starting you mornings with hallucinogens… you must be tripping to suggest that priorities will ever align as such in our lifetime…

GD

March 5th, 2013
8:31 am

The Northern Dekalb Schools really aren’t “Largely” white. Might want to check that.

gadem also known as Benghazi

March 5th, 2013
8:32 am

I agree with the previous posters. As a man of color, I think that the NAACP has basically out lived its usefulness. Or maybe the leadership in the NAACP needs to be changed to reflect a younger changing demographic to better serve people of color.

I can say that the one problem that is very evident here is that most people, regardless of race supports people of their race even when they know that they are not deserving of their support.

OBIWAN

March 5th, 2013
8:32 am

Of course it is racism, if an “African-American” does not get what they want it is racism. I got to tell you there are more “African-American” racist than there are white racist. What is the deal with hyphenated Americans, ether you are American, or you are not, there is NO hyphen in American!

Normal, Plain and Simple

March 5th, 2013
8:33 am

Good morning to all y’all…

I don’t have a dog in this hunt, but I have always wondered why there isn’t an “educator” qualification in order to be eligible to run for the position. In short, to be on the School Board, you must have been a teacher or educational administrator. Most teachers I have know have always had the best interest of the students at heart.

Jm

March 5th, 2013
8:33 am

When did becoming a school board member change from being a community service job into a mooching opportunity?

And I happen to know someone who served on a school board for a dozen years. She got paid $12k for an almost full time job. It was only about the service.

Not mooching.

The current public service generation is a disaster.

Jm

March 5th, 2013
8:35 am

Stevie Rae :) Probably right

At least nowadays

Normal, Plain and Simple

March 5th, 2013
8:36 am

OBIWAN,

Get real.

renee

March 5th, 2013
8:36 am

Its funny how things have changed in Dekalb county.. the Politicians, schools, church all Greed. This is what they teach the kids. But most importantly what are the parents teaching the kids at home, You want to look good wear tennis shoes, but dont strive to put something in that brain… thats where the questions should be asked… Get invovled in the community in the school system removed these people that are stealing money and dont want to really help the community and the familys and the children. REMOVE THEM… dont just sit around and do nothing.. people are really trying to move out of dekalb county, claiming it is going down.. with section 8 who are teaching these kids to be thugs where are the fathers??? I grew up in dekalb county.. I think eventually at the black people get finished tearing it up, the white people will come back and take it over.. look at kirkwood, moreland ave… why dont we have pride…teach our kids so they are able to take care of themselves.. it just becomes a circle and no one gets ahead…why do you think Dunwoody parted ways with Dekalb county.. I WOULD TOO.!!!

Jay

March 5th, 2013
8:37 am

GD, I’ve checked the demographic data and you are correct. The post has been updated to reflect that.

The Constitution of the State of Georgia

March 5th, 2013
8:37 am

Georgia has had 10 Constitutions since 1777.

The current Georgia Constitution was adopted in 1983 and has been amended 70 times.

GT

March 5th, 2013
8:38 am

I always get the feeling that some organizer in Washington calls these shots for Republican governors. They come in clusters, like similar laws for illegals, not accepting Medicare and now the rescue of a black district by an ill fitted white hatted Republican governor.

The right is determine to rule this country outside of Washington, yet there exist an unelected bureaucrat in some back room in D.C. “think tank” that is trying so hard to conserve the old America of white old male power structure. Watch this roll out, Deal hasn’t had much of a track record himself on education, he will be like a bull in a china shop.

Richard Story is one of the great judges in our generation. Wish we could find a politician like him in this state.

Jm

March 5th, 2013
8:39 am

” In short, to be on the School Board, you must have been a teacher or educational administrator.”

Bad idea.

I know lots of good school board members who were never teachers. On top of that the job then becomes about providing a monetary benefit to only one constituency, the teachers.

How many other bad ideas will be posted here today I wonder?

Jay

March 5th, 2013
8:39 am

“In short, to be on the School Board, you must have been a teacher or educational administrator. Most teachers I have know have always had the best interest of the students at heart.”

I would strongly disagree. I think there can be a role for those of such a background on a school board, but they also tend to have see everything from the teacher or administrator’s point of view, which is dangerous unless offset by others of different backgrounds.

RickInGrayson

March 5th, 2013
8:40 am

One important manifestation of racism is apathy — the malign neglect of struggling minority communities by a majority that cannot be bothered to care.
===========
Isn’t this a situation where the “MAJORITY” is actually a minority? They can’t seem to get it right. Clayton county has the same problem with electing a school board.

Skip

March 5th, 2013
8:40 am

Everyone thinks elections should count, unless they don’t.

H. E. Pennypacker

March 5th, 2013
8:43 am

As a property owner in Dekalb County with two children attending Dekalb County schools and a spouse teaching in the district, I am in complete agreement with Jay. The precedent of removing elected officials does cause discomfort, but desperate times call for desperate measures and our children do not have time to sit back and hope the currently elected board members experience some sort of harmonic convergence and finally get things right.

Jm

March 5th, 2013
8:44 am

Oh crud

Jinxy jay

larry

March 5th, 2013
8:44 am

Actually, the state Board of Education has only 13 members currently instead of 14.

I wonder, who appoints them ? Hmmmmm….

barking frog

March 5th, 2013
8:45 am

Property values should not enter into evaluating a
school system.

GT/MIT

March 5th, 2013
8:46 am

I find myself somewhat perplexed by your stance on this issue. It is difficult for me to believe that you would axe the “democrat progressive battle cry of racism”. None-the-less I applaud your effort to take the high road on this one.

They call me MISTER JamVet.

March 5th, 2013
8:46 am

I got to tell you there are more “African-American” racist than there are white racist.

How utterly juvenile and embarrassing for that blogger.

I too was going to comment on the racial makeup of northern DeKalb schools, but see if has already been discussed…

Jm

March 5th, 2013
8:47 am

Harmonic convergence

That was funny

GT

March 5th, 2013
8:47 am

guy replay a little of that South Carolina or Florida Republican debate last election and you may get an idea why “people always assume racism from whites only”. I don’t think a KKK rally could have been rawer. I kept waiting for the candidates to cover their comments but it got worse and worse and the moderator seemed to encourage it, or ignore it. Hitler would have splendid into that stage and gone hardly noticed unless he was getting the largest applauds.

Class of '98

March 5th, 2013
8:48 am

So Jay now gets a taste of what it’s like to be called a racist when racism has nothing to do with it. Ironic.

His next column, of course, will include accusations (and probably a poll) indicating how racist Republicans are, involving a debate that has absolutely nothing to do with race.

Dims are not very good at recognizing double-standards or irony.

indigo

March 5th, 2013
8:48 am

Stevie Ray – 8:28

When civil responsibilities become as importand to the Black community as civil rights, we might just start to get fairly close to that “perfect outcome”.

As to what it will look like, I would say an essentially color blind society.

Fred ™

March 5th, 2013
8:48 am

Normal: Two of the six WERE educators and on paper look like they would be ideal board members. Of the others, all but one have impressive resumes and again one would think they would be excellent board members. But they aren’t. They put self ahead of the kids.

I think Stevie Ray ought to toss HIS hat into the ring lol. You still live in Delkalb County SR? Or Oscar. I KNOW he lives around here.

LOL or Maureen and Jay. How about you two Jay?

Bosch

March 5th, 2013
8:49 am

commoncents,

Some would argue that Deal himself is nothing more than an opportunistic crook who was elected by the citizens of Georgia only because of the letter R after his name. Deal calling anyone incompetent is a bit ironic.

But as to the opinion piece, I agree. Racism is not so black and white any longer, no one wears it on their sleeves. It rears its ugly little head in policies and ideas meant by design to twist and absolve those who design them.

Normal, Plain and Simple

March 5th, 2013
8:49 am

JAY,
Not trying to hijack the topic here, but tomorrow is the 156th anniversary of the Dred Scott Supreme Court case. If you look at the make up of the SC then, as afar as political activists go, and look at the make up of the SC today, who will rule on voting rights for minorities, the similarities are…well, you decide. A good topic for tomorrow maybe?

Fred ™

March 5th, 2013
8:49 am

How many other bad ideas will be posted here today I wonder?

How many posts are you going to make?

Jm

March 5th, 2013
8:50 am

Frog

Property values matter if you want to keep a diversified school system

An ineffective school system plus collapsing property values equals white flight

And a death spiral for the school system

Since property taxes fund schools and a diverse student body improves education quality

stands for decibels

March 5th, 2013
8:52 am

I’m as fretful as any here over superseding the will of the electorate, but you make a good case, Jay.

In the meantime, however, those who share my fretfulness might want to news.google “benton harbor” and look at their experiences, of late, with state-imposed emergency management (and while you’re at it, look at what the much-much larger Detroit is grappling with as they appear to be making a similar transition). It’s the farthest thing from a panacea.

And yes, I know city:school management is not an apples:apples comparison, but there are similar issues of autonomy and potentials for grotesque corruption to occur.

barking frog

March 5th, 2013
8:54 am

Jm
An ineffective school system plus collapsing property values equals white flight
……………………………………………………………………
and that is not necessarily a bad thing…..

larry

March 5th, 2013
8:54 am

I have to disagree that this is racist. But it is political. Severely political.

And Clayton and DeKalb counties are the two most Democratic counties in the state.

And SACS has gone after both of them.

I wonder how many rural counties SACS has gone after ?

Bosch

March 5th, 2013
8:54 am

“When civil responsibilities become as importand to the Black community as civil rights, we might just start to get fairly close to that “perfect outcome”.”

Case in point.

Normal, Plain and Simple

March 5th, 2013
8:55 am

JAY,
OK, I see your point, but maybe it’s just me, but I never had a teacher I thought was bad. I had a few I thought was hard, but not bad, They all seemed to have my best interest at heart. That’s why I thought they would make better School board Administrators. But what do I know, most of my education came from Federal Government Social Services Schools from the Army. :)

larry

March 5th, 2013
8:57 am

And yes, I know city:school management is not an apples:apples comparison, but there are similar issues of autonomy and potentials for grotesque corruption to occur.

I have seen reports about what is going on in Michigan and its pretty bad up there. That governor is power hungry. I guess thats why his approval rating is around 30% or less.

Deal is trying that in this case. And no one should trust his judgement at all.

They call me MISTER JamVet.

March 5th, 2013
8:58 am

98 (and others), would you agree that, by and large, the GOP has a race problem?

If so, why?

If not, why not?

(Just by way of reminder the composition of the Republican Party by registered membership is 2% black, 5% Latino, 3% other, 90% white.)

Fred ™

March 5th, 2013
8:58 am

but maybe it’s just me, but I never had a teacher I thought was bad.

Wow. I did.

Jm

March 5th, 2013
8:59 am

Frog

If you think white flight, from a failing school system, is a good thing, then I would suggest stronger coffee in the morning

Jefferson

March 5th, 2013
8:59 am

Maybe lower school property taxes IS the goal.

Rafe Hollister

March 5th, 2013
8:59 am

So, the Crooked Deal is not such a Bad Deal after all? Whodda thunk it?

kayaker 71

March 5th, 2013
8:59 am

Would we even be having this discussion of all of the school board members were white?

Fred ™

March 5th, 2013
9:01 am

Mr. Jamvet. Look at the pictures of the State School board (IE your 8:58)…………. I think they found both of the Black Republicans………

http://www.doe.k12.ga.us/External-Affairs-and-Policy/State-Board-of-Education/Pages/default.aspx

Jm

March 5th, 2013
9:01 am

Frog

An I’ll add: it would really be a prosperous smart people flight

It would be a mix

barking frog

March 5th, 2013
9:01 am

Jm
white flight for any reason can be a good thing. many
nice, well located black communities with good school
systems are in place due to white flight.

They call me MISTER JamVet.

March 5th, 2013
9:02 am

Also, the makeup of the Democratic Party – 19% black, 11% Latino, 6% other, 64% white.

Call me crazy but that looks a WHOLE lot closer to the racial makeup of this melting pot, doesn’t it?

larry

March 5th, 2013
9:03 am

Mr. Burdette currently represents Georgia’s 10th Congressional District on the Georgia State School Board. He is also very active in local, state, and national politics.

That is from the bio of my representative on the state Board of Education. Its political.

And yes, we would be having this discussion if all of the school board members were white. One of the suspended board members is white and claims to have alerted SACS on the problems of the DeKalb school board.

Bosch

March 5th, 2013
9:03 am

kayaker,

Yes.

ShooShee

March 5th, 2013
9:03 am

Gosh. What about Nancy Jester? She is one of the six to be dismissed by the Governor. And she is white. (!) Ironically all of Dunwoody voters will be trumped by this move of the Governor’s – do you hear them screaming? Shall we do the math? Let’s just go back and see how many white Dunwoody voters voted for Nancy vs how many black voters voted for Gene. Really? Do we have to go there? This has gone so far beyond ridiculous.

larry

March 5th, 2013
9:04 am

And i wonder if she is a Democrat?

kayaker 71

March 5th, 2013
9:05 am

Bosch, 9:03,

I must congratulate Bookman today. A thread well written. But if you think that this whole brewha is about students and education, I have this nice waterfront home in Arizona that you might be interested in.

GT

March 5th, 2013
9:06 am

This whole thing stems from a lack of respect for education in this state. We need to get as dramatic about our children’s education as we do about drugs and war and illegals. I’d like to see more cameras in the schools, more reporting bad and good going on. Make heroes out of math majors; introduce them in church along with the uniforms. Honor and aw ourselves with great minds not violent behavior and bullies. Pointing them out may make some feel inferior which I think is the problem now. Dumb down our heroes and we all feel like heroes, make the bar higher and we all feel stupid. Who wants to feel stupid?

barking frog

March 5th, 2013
9:06 am

Jm
some folks are not interested in an economic caste
community, they just want a nice safe place to live
with neighbors like themselves and schools where
their kids are safe and get an adequate education.

Jay

March 5th, 2013
9:06 am

Shooshee, Jester’s testimony to the state Board lent credence to the claim that she was part of the DeKalb board’s problem, rather than its solution.

The Thin Guy

March 5th, 2013
9:08 am

As a resident of Dekalb County I hate to see tax money wasted. Every election I skip the school board stuff because I don’t know any of the candidates. But one thing the gov should consider is you never replace anyone unless you have a replacement who is an improvement. If these were the first choice of the voters imagine what second place would have offered. Loss of accreditation should only occur if the teachers aren’t properly certified or aren’t doing their job. A great deal of money is being wasted over this and it has little to do with education. So the current school board was dysfunctional. So what? It describes our country and county. How effective is an appointed board going to be?

Jackie

March 5th, 2013
9:08 am

If the DeKalb County school system has their authority taken away by the governor for any reason(s) perceived by the Governor and the Federal Court, when will the court make a decision about the “public voucher system” GA has in place currently.

We are using public money to pay for private schools that those same failing minority students can not take use for their education.

Where is the so-called outrage by the Governor?

http://www.edchoice.org/School-Choice/State/GA.aspx