Foreign governments with U.S. writers on their payroll?

This is pretty damn scummy:

“A range of mainstream American publications printed paid propaganda for the government of Malaysia, much of it focused on the campaign against a pro-democracy figure there.

The payments to conservative American opinion writers — whose work appeared in outlets from the Huffington Post and San Francisco Examiner to the Washington Times to National Review and RedState — emerged in a filing this week to the Department of Justice. The filing under the Foreign Agent Registration Act outlines a campaign spanning May 2008 to April 2011 and led by Joshua Trevino, a conservative pundit, who received $389,724.70 under the contract and paid smaller sums to a series of conservative writers….

Trevino’s subcontractors included conservative writer Ben Domenech, who made $36,000 from the arrangement, and Rachel Ehrenfeld, the director of the American Center for Democracy, who made $30,000. Seth Mandel, an editor at Commentary, made $5,500. Brad Jackson, writing at the time for RedState, made $24,700. Overall, 10 writers were part of the arrangement.”

You take secret, undisclosed money from a foreign government to write hit pieces in U.S. media against a man, in this case Anwar Ibrahim, who is struggling to bring democracy to his country and was beaten and imprisoned for years for daring to challenge the dictatorial government? (Russia has apparently run similar pay-to-say operations.)

Much of Trevino’s work under the Malaysian contract has been removed by the outlets that published it. But you can get a taste of its amoral quality from this piece that was published as a rebuttal to a Trevino column.

And here’s a Rachel Ehrenfeld piece, condemning Ibrahim for “careless sexual behavior” among other things.

We already know of course that “you can’t believe everything that’s on the Internet.” But paid agents of foreign governments masquerading as American journalists takes things to a dangerous level and says a lot about the character of those involved.

UPDATE: Among those named as receiving money from Malaysia in Trevino’s belated filing as a foreign agent is Christopher Badeaux. Here’s a small sampling of his Malaysia-related work at RedState.com:

“Najib Razak, the Prime Minister of Malaysia, has been on a more or less singular crusade to convince the Muslim world — and the West — that there is a path for moderate Islam in the world, that Islam does not equal terror, and that the taking of a life is contrary to Islam and civilization. His speech at Oxford was of a piece with that….

The salient point here is not whether we agree with the prime minister’s theological assertions, but rather we can appreciate the extraordinary effort he is making here, and the importance for the United States of his efforts.”

And:

In Malaysia, Anwar Ibrahim, the leader of Malaysia’s opposition, has apparently been caught in adultery, with video evidence that Dartmouth scientists say nearly certainly implicates him. The major dailies are calling on him to resign. For three years, after failing to topple the governing party in the 2008 elections, he has crisscrossed the planet telling anyone and everyone who would listen how corrupt and evil the governing party is. And yet despite all of this — despite his stated certainty that his opposition coalition of socialists, Islamists, and yuppie liberals is the only chance his country has to avoid certain doom at the hands of the centrist coalition that has been re-elected time and again in Malaysia, he has refused to resign.”

– Jay Bookman

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Look before I leap...

March 2nd, 2013
9:32 pm

“Nope not yet but if it were a bit warmer outside I could smoke my weekend cigar and probably get there. – ”

My wife used to let me smoke my stogies in the den when it was cold outside. Then we got new furniture and I was banished to the balcony permanently. Bought a table top propane heater – add in my fleece-lined boots and a sweater and I am in Montecristo heaven. The added benefit? My bourbon stays at cellar temp without the need for ice.

Towncrier

March 2nd, 2013
9:32 pm

“This is quite telling”

Thanks for the link, Jay. The author provides a link to an outline of Obama’s “proposal” – the first time I have ever seen it in writing. I wonder how long it has been there? I believe something much greater needs to be done to deal with the entitlement spending on retiring baby boomers that is about to ramp up. Getting the economy rolling again would, of course, be a big help.

bman.

March 2nd, 2013
9:32 pm

Richard Marx ‏@richardmarx

“@Jonfrom1942 What song of yours can I drunkenly butcher at karaoke that would offend you the least?” Cuts Like A Knife

hahaha

Look before I leap...

March 2nd, 2013
9:33 pm

BTW
The answer to the trivia question from way back is:

They all 3 have cabinets.

Towncrier

March 2nd, 2013
9:34 pm

“And sock-puppets are still sock-puppets.”

And regurgitators are still regurgitators. ;-)

DoggoneGA

March 2nd, 2013
9:34 pm

“The matter of life and when it begins is an “affair of the conscience” – See more at: http://blogs.ajc.com/jay-bookman-blog/2013/03/02/foreign-governments-with-u-s-writers-on-their-payroll/?cp=6#comment-1249325

It isn’t to me. Anti-abortionists are overly fond of saying that “libs” won’t “admit” that a foetus is alive. I’ve never had a problem “admitting” that. To me it’s not a matter of of life, it’s a matter of humanity. At the age at which abortion is legal, a foetus is not a human being…to me THAT is the matter. It is a flat out lie to say that abortion kills babies. It does not.

td

March 2nd, 2013
9:38 pm

And now for a small trip down memory lane and one of the bands that put MTV on the map.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5nZniMYCZp4

Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes

March 2nd, 2013
9:38 pm

And regurgitators are still regurgitators.

Serial drudgey spammers say, “What?”

:eek: :eek: :eek: :lol: :lol: :lol: :razz: :razz: :razz: :razz: :lol: :lol: :lol: :eek: :eek: :eek:

getalife

March 2nd, 2013
9:41 pm

These cons are fighting for traitors that will leave our country to not pay taxes.

Like that ugly french traitor.

Look before I leap...

March 2nd, 2013
9:42 pm

““What does it mean when you go in and find the bed made up with freshly laundered linens and the floor’s been vacuumed? I keep fergettin… ”

In the case of my wife and I, it means the housekeeper has been there. We both spend an average of 15-18/nights a month in hotels. We’ve gotten a bit spoiled by that. She does get a bit peeved when I call the hotel she in which she is booked and bribe the housekeeping staff to short-sheet her bed.

Towncrier

March 2nd, 2013
9:46 pm

“At the age at which abortion is legal, a foetus is not a human being…to me THAT is the matter. It is a flat out lie to say that abortion kills babies. It does not.”

Well, let’s once again examine your reasoning. Roe allows abortions up to the 28th week or pregnancy, but it is a medical fact that prematurely born fetuses are viable before then – even the 21st or 22nd week. Granted, medical assistance in is often needed in the earliest weeks of the viability spectrum to support the infants’ lives, but they do live and grow to adulthood. But, by your reasoning, they are not human beings. I, on the other hand, am saying that a WHOLE LOT of such “human beings” have been killed since 1973. Hence, abortion does in fact kill babies.

bman.

March 2nd, 2013
9:47 pm

“It is a flat out lie to say that abortion kills babies. It does not.”

Let Freedom Ring!

DoggoneGA

March 2nd, 2013
9:50 pm

Your description of the Roe v Wade “allowance” is disingenuous:

“The Court later rejected Roe’s trimester framework, while affirming Roe’s central holding that a person has a right to abortion until viability.[1] The Roe decision defined “viable” as being “potentially able to live outside the mother’s womb, albeit with artificial aid”, adding that viability “is usually placed at about seven months (28 weeks) but may occur earlier, even at 24 weeks.”[2]”

If the foetus is viable then it is not an abortion, it is an induced delivery.

TaxPayer

March 2nd, 2013
9:51 pm

Of course abortion is not killing.

josef

March 2nd, 2013
9:51 pm

DOGGONE

Pretty similar feelings here about Yanni

MOONBAT

Where the hell have you been?

Towncrier

March 2nd, 2013
9:51 pm

“Serial drudgey spammers say, “What?”

Serial regurgitators ask “What?”

FYI, “sport”, it is ungrammatical to insert a comma between “say” and “what” in the sentence you spam. But don’t let my “passive-aggressive” tip alter your writing habits in the least. ;-)

moonbat betty

March 2nd, 2013
9:51 pm

Ahhh, abortion debate on a Sat. night…

happy happy…joy joy

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z1LOWEufAH0

moonbat betty

March 2nd, 2013
9:52 pm

OREP says, “What?”

lol

Brosephus™ - If do right, no can defense

March 2nd, 2013
9:53 pm

And dummies by any other name are still dummies.

So sayeth the one with 300 screen names and one personality…

:roll:

I would say takes one to know one, but comparing you to a dummy is very demeaning to true dummies.

DoggoneGA

March 2nd, 2013
9:53 pm

“Of course abortion is not killing.”

Can’t agree with that. Josef and I hashed it out. Abortion is not murder, but it IS killing.

breckenridge

March 2nd, 2013
9:54 pm

Towncrier – It’s been 40 years since the Supreme Court ruled on the legality of abortion. The belief that all abortion is murder is based on the idea that life begins at the moment of conception, which is a religious precept. And as we all know our Founding Fathers were completely against mingling religion with government policy.

“An alliance or coalition between government and religion cannot be too carefully guarded against……Every new and successful example therefore of a perfect separation between ecclesiastical and civil matters is of importance……..religion and government will exist in greater purity, without (rather) than with the aid of government.” James Madison, author of the Bill of Rights, 1822.

Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes

March 2nd, 2013
9:55 pm

FYI, “sport”, it is ungrammatical to insert a comma between “say” and “what” in the sentence you spam.

Yes, I know, sport.

And you fall for the bait every time.

Sport.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

TaxPayer

March 2nd, 2013
9:55 pm

Abortion is not killing of a human life given that is the context of the argument.

Brosephus™ - If do right, no can defense

March 2nd, 2013
9:56 pm

OREP says, “What?”

lol

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Milkweed

March 2nd, 2013
9:56 pm

This from the “Society for the Prevention of Infanticide” website:
“The colonists brought infanticide to America from England while at the same time finding that the Indians practiced it as well. As was the case in Germany extreme discipline characterized family life in puritanical colonial America and parents were given extensive liberty to punish their children, even to the point of death. In 1646 the General Court of Massachusetts Bay had enacted a law where “a stubborn or rebellious son, of sufficient years and understanding, ” would be brought before the Magistrates in court and “such a son shall be put to death.” “Stubborn child laws” were also enacted in Connecticut in 1650, Rhode Island in 1668, and New Hampshire in 1679.’

Interesting how societal mores ebb and flow.

DoggoneGA

March 2nd, 2013
9:56 pm

“The belief that all abortion is murder is based on the idea that life begins at the moment of conception, which is a religious precept – See more at: http://blogs.ajc.com/jay-bookman-blog/2013/03/02/foreign-governments-with-u-s-writers-on-their-payroll/?cp=7#comment-1249357

And there is no law that compels ANYONE to GET an abortion. So if you don’t believe you should have one, then don’t get one.

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March 2nd, 2013
9:57 pm

“If the foetus is viable then it is not an abortion, it is an induced delivery.”

1) Unless the doctor puts the scizzors into its skull then it is called “death”.

2) Unless you can’t determine the EXACT second of viability (and you can’t) then you are putting thousands and thousands of viable babies to death each year. Under the law that should be at least “negligent” homicide.

DoggoneGA

March 2nd, 2013
9:58 pm

“Abortion is not killing of a human life given that is the context of the argument. – See more at: http://blogs.ajc.com/jay-bookman-blog/2013/03/02/foreign-governments-with-u-s-writers-on-their-payroll/?cp=7#comment-1249363

Yes, I agree with that.

Brosephus™ - If do right, no can defense

March 2nd, 2013
9:59 pm

Jay

Thanks for that Wonkblog link. That’s why I say that Obama needs to grow a spine and let the chips fall where they may. The only way the GOP will agree to anything is if they get their version of “compromise” which is getting everything they want and denying Dems everything they want.

It doesn’t even matter that most of the public, when polled, want something totally different. A jackass by any other name is still stubborn as hell, braying loud, and doing absolutely nothing at all.

TaxPayer

March 2nd, 2013
10:00 pm

Birth control pills do not abort a viable fetus.

bman.

March 2nd, 2013
10:00 pm

“FYI, “sport”, it is ungrammatical to insert a comma between “say” and “what” in the sentence you spam.”

People here, on this board, will, at times, use too many commas, and in too many places. Moreover, and however, sometimes, most times, and even many other times, they don’t use commas, in broadcast news.

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March 2nd, 2013
10:01 pm

getalife:

“These cons are fighting for traitors that will leave our country to not pay taxes.”

Headline: “Americans renouncing citizenship to become British… ”

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/expat/9904314/Americans-renouncing-citizenship-to-become-British-thanks-to-tax-rise.html

HECK getalife ! More than half of Georgia fought to STAY British !

http://www.toriesfightingfortheking.com/ToryArmy.htm

Welcome to the Occupation

March 2nd, 2013
10:02 pm

“The bourgeoisie has torn away from the family its sentimental veil, and has reduced the family relation to a mere money relation.”

moonbat betty

March 2nd, 2013
10:02 pm

TP, it depends on what you consider “alive” or “life”. That’s why there will never be an agreement, thus pointless to argue.

Roe/Wade will never be turned over by Republicans.

It’s an old liberal urban legend.

getalife

March 2nd, 2013
10:03 pm

After they are born, cons cut their funding so they starve to death.

Post term abortions with starvation, freezing to death on the streets and wars.

0311/8541/5811/1811/1801

March 2nd, 2013
10:03 pm

Excuse me @ 9:57

“can determine”

0311/8541/5811/1811/1801

March 2nd, 2013
10:05 pm

moonbat betty:

Just saw the movie “Lincoln” today.

As we all know it took 250 years to rid ourselves of the evil of slavery.

Time is on our side regarding the rights of the unborn.

Brosephus™ - If do right, no can defense

March 2nd, 2013
10:05 pm

Bman

That, was one funny, hilarious post, one that will remain, in my head, until I likely pass out, from lack of oxygen, because of my unstoppable laughter.

:lol:

0311/8541/5811/1811/1801

March 2nd, 2013
10:06 pm

getalife:

Don’t forget accidental gun deaths.

getalife

March 2nd, 2013
10:06 pm

scout,

How many kids did you adopt?

TaxPayer

March 2nd, 2013
10:06 pm

Moon at,

Cons cannot even define conception much less determine when it has occurred.

Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes

March 2nd, 2013
10:06 pm

It’s an old liberal urban legend.

Bloody Mary, bloody Mary, bloody Mary says, “What?”

Welcome to the Occupation

March 2nd, 2013
10:07 pm

“People here, on this board, will, at times, use too many commas, and in too many places. Moreover, and however, sometimes, most times, and even many other times, they don’t use commas, in broadcast news.”

This is, hands down, one of the vilest, most offensive, most truly cretinous, heart-rending things I’ve ever seen posted on these boards.

They call me MISTER JamVet.

March 2nd, 2013
10:07 pm

get, Carlin said it perfectly about them…

http://tinyurl.com/68l8839

0311/8541/5811/1811/1801

March 2nd, 2013
10:07 pm

Come to Georgia ……… right getalife ??

“One of the largest producers of magazines, other firearm accessories in US, Magpul, is suddenly in middle of Colorado’s gun control debate, as it issues ultimatum to lawmakers — if bill is passed restricting ammunition magazine size, it is moving out of state.”

TaxPayer

March 2nd, 2013
10:08 pm

Darn this iPad. It changed moonbat to moon at!

getalife

March 2nd, 2013
10:08 pm

“Time is on our side regarding the rights of the unborn. ”

There is a pill now for unwanted pregnancies so you are losing badly.

0311/8541/5811/1811/1801

March 2nd, 2013
10:08 pm

getalife:

“How many kids did you adopt?”

How many kids did I not murder ?

bman.

March 2nd, 2013
10:09 pm

Bro .. .. Don’t encourage me !

:-)

moonbat betty

March 2nd, 2013
10:11 pm

“After they are born, cons cut their funding so they starve to death.

Post term abortions with starvation, freezing to death on the streets and wars.”

Sure, getalife, it wouldn’t have anything to do with the parent’s:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RR3wSz-r1SU

0311/8541/5811/1811/1801

March 2nd, 2013
10:11 pm

Mabe the Obama’s will name their next dog Sequester.

Has a nice ring to it.

TaxPayer

March 2nd, 2013
10:11 pm

Scout thinks time is on his side. Meanwhile reality continues to elude him.

Brosephus™ - If do right, no can defense

March 2nd, 2013
10:11 pm

bman.

That one was seriously funny!!! Listening to all this partisaned crap makes one need laughter even more than normal.

:)

0311/8541/5811/1811/1801

March 2nd, 2013
10:12 pm

moonbat betty:

Did you know that getalife is a real honest to goodness gun nut?

I’m not kidding.

0311/8541/5811/1811/1801

March 2nd, 2013
10:12 pm

“Scout thinks time is on his side.”

No ……… I’ve only got about 20 left.

It’s on the side of the future unborn.

getalife

March 2nd, 2013
10:13 pm

Jam,

Carlin is hilarious.

For you abortion nuts, go adopt some children and put your money where you mouth is.

appleseed

March 2nd, 2013
10:13 pm

When will women stop these abortions?

0311/8541/5811/1811/1801

March 2nd, 2013
10:14 pm

“Here Sequester, here Sequester, here Sequester. Michelle, that dog is getting too fat. Cut back on his food !”

TaxPayer

March 2nd, 2013
10:14 pm

“Sure, getalife, it wouldn’t have anything to do with the parent’s: – See more at: http://blogs.ajc.com/jay-bookman-blog/2013/03/02/foreign-governments-with-u-s-writers-on-their-payroll/?cp=7#comment-1249389

That depends on whether their attempt to abort was denied by some holier than thou con.

bman.

March 2nd, 2013
10:14 pm

Bro .. .. I think it’s Sequester Stress.

Towncrier

March 2nd, 2013
10:14 pm

“If the foetus is viable then it is not an abortion, it is an induced delivery.”

Clearly, fetuses that were in fact viable have been and still are being aborted.

0311/8541/5811/1811/1801

March 2nd, 2013
10:14 pm

appleseed:

“Equal rights for unborn women”.

getalife

March 2nd, 2013
10:15 pm

Did you know that getalife is a real honest to goodness gun nut.

I am more of a gun opportunist.

I saw the fear in the cons eyes, bought cheap and sold high.

Brosephus™ - If do right, no can defense

March 2nd, 2013
10:15 pm

bman

Nah, some of these people were PMSing long before this stuff.

DoggoneGA

March 2nd, 2013
10:15 pm

“When will women stop these abortions?”

When will God stop spontaneous abortions?

0311/8541/5811/1811/1801

March 2nd, 2013
10:15 pm

Towncrier:

And if the nice sounding “induced delivery” is in the form of the child being torn apart then that’s kind of a moot point.

Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes

March 2nd, 2013
10:16 pm

When will women stop these abortions?

Any time now.

It was only just recently that they discovered they had this anti-rape vagina chaff thingie.

TaxPayer

March 2nd, 2013
10:16 pm

The unborn have no future by definition.

0311/8541/5811/1811/1801

March 2nd, 2013
10:16 pm

“It is a poverty to decide that a child must die so that you may live as you wish.”

Mother Teresa

getalife

March 2nd, 2013
10:17 pm

crier,

How many children did you adopt?

moonbat betty

March 2nd, 2013
10:18 pm

Ipads can be a b-itch, TaxPayer.

When I saw the ultrasound of my daughter’s heart beating at 4 weeks, that had a profound effect on me.

What others want to do with their life is their problem and they will have to deal with that themselves.

As long as it’s not funded by taxpayer money, it’s on them.

DoggoneGA

March 2nd, 2013
10:18 pm

“Clearly, fetuses that were in fact viable have been and still are being aborted. – See more at: http://blogs.ajc.com/jay-bookman-blog/2013/03/02/foreign-governments-with-u-s-writers-on-their-payroll/?cp=7#comment-1249402

That is not the fault of Roe v Wade. If it is true, then there should have been a trial for murder. Was there?

Towncrier

March 2nd, 2013
10:18 pm

“Yes, I know, sport.”

ROFL. Now there is a cover-up of sizable proportions. You evidently don’t know much at all, “sport”. If you did, you would have at some point demonstrated said knowledge. ;-)

0311/8541/5811/1811/1801

March 2nd, 2013
10:18 pm

Liberals have no future by definition.

When will God stop all death.

DoggoneGA

March 2nd, 2013
10:19 pm

““Equal rights for unborn women”.”

But not for unborn men

0311/8541/5811/1811/1801

March 2nd, 2013
10:19 pm

crier:

How many children did you not murder ?

getalife

March 2nd, 2013
10:20 pm

Put your money where your mouth is and adopt unwanted children to give credibility to your argument.

They call me MISTER JamVet.

March 2nd, 2013
10:20 pm

Meanwhile reality continues to elude him.

Yep, as much as the cons value the similarities with them, America is not gonna join in with the Iranians, Saudis, Libyans, Egyptians, Yemenis and Afghanis in crushing the rights of women.

Those days are done forever in this land.

Hallelujah, abortion is legal and safe now. And the fascists can’t do a damn thing about it…

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VwcKwGS7OSQ

getalife

March 2nd, 2013
10:21 pm

The wealthy that you are fighting for are leaving our country over taxes so you are fighting for traitors that are no longer Americans.

Josef

March 2nd, 2013
10:21 pm

Gets life
@ 10:06

Me and Unmentionable? One. We DO have a leg to stand on there. And you know what? Neither “side” wants to hear what we have to say. That’s why I tend to stay out of this “discussion.” it’s Paracelsus’ “two wh*res discussing chastity” imeoiauo.

0311/8541/5811/1811/1801

March 2nd, 2013
10:21 pm

“But not for unborn men”

Nope ………. not right now. They still have to register for the draft wherein the state can take control of their bodies for two years and send them to a place they don’t want to go in a war they disapprove of where they will possibly be killed or maimed physically or emotinally for life.

Women don’t have to register.

There are no female draftees on the Vietnam Wall.

DoggoneGA

March 2nd, 2013
10:22 pm

“When will God stop all death.”

When God outlaws death, only criminals will die

TaxPayer

March 2nd, 2013
10:22 pm

But the sound of a child being blown apart by the war mongering cons is one they just cannot get enough of. And the sound of the ar15 blowing children apart is second only to the bomb for a con. I wonder what sort of sound a fertilized egg blocked by birth control makes. Does it yell out in agony like the child getting blown away. It would need nerve endings and a vocal cord to start with.

They call me MISTER JamVet.

March 2nd, 2013
10:22 pm

Liberals have no future by definition.

Must be that book of made up cr@p in which Christianity is not a religion…

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SPKrDPmdNdw

0311/8541/5811/1811/1801

March 2nd, 2013
10:23 pm

“Yep, as much as the cons value the similarities with them, America is not gonna join in with the Iranians, Saudis, Libyans, Egyptians, Yemenis and Afghanis in crushing the rights of women.”

Islamaphobe !

Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes

March 2nd, 2013
10:23 pm

Now there is a cover-up of sizable proportions.

Funny, that’s what Catrinel Menghia said.

Sport.

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March 2nd, 2013
10:23 pm

DoggoneGA

March 2nd, 2013
10:24 pm

“Put your money where your mouth is and adopt unwanted children to give credibility to your argument – See more at: http://blogs.ajc.com/jay-bookman-blog/2013/03/02/foreign-governments-with-u-s-writers-on-their-payroll/?cp=7#comment-1249419

It has to start before then. They need to be willing to hire the pregnant woman to bear her child, be willing to pay all expenses related to the pregnancy and delivery, and THEN adopt the resulting child. They want a living child, why should the pregnant woman have to bear all the expense for them?

bman.

March 2nd, 2013
10:25 pm

Bro .. .. It’s tough for guys like me. I’m not for abortion (I don’t know how anyone could be), but I think it’s the choice of the individual. It’s hard for me to relate it to a crime & that the person should do the time. Who didn’t fool around during their younger years?

If I weren’t shooting blanks, I’d have 15 kids right now.

getalife

March 2nd, 2013
10:25 pm

josef,

I want to hear what you have to say because you have credibility in the argument.

Do tell.

td

March 2nd, 2013
10:27 pm

There is not a progressive on this blog that wants to even consider the term personal responsibility.

Welcome to the Occupation

March 2nd, 2013
10:29 pm

TaxPayer: “The unborn have no future by definition.”

Interesting logical paradox.

DoggoneGA

March 2nd, 2013
10:31 pm

“There is not a progressive on this blog that wants to even consider the term personal responsibility. – See more at: http://blogs.ajc.com/jay-bookman-blog/2013/03/02/foreign-governments-with-u-s-writers-on-their-payroll/?cp=7#comment-1249425

Sure we do, that’s why most of us support a woman’s right to choose. And that is SO damn funny coming from all the times we’ve been asked to do the work of cons and prove their points for them!

td

March 2nd, 2013
10:32 pm

TaxPayer

March 2nd, 2013
10:22 pm

But the sound of a child being blown apart by the war mongering cons is one they just cannot get enough of. And the sound of the ar15 blowing children apart is second only to the bomb for a con. I wonder what sort of sound a fertilized egg blocked by birth control makes. Does it yell out in agony like the child getting blown away. It would need nerve endings and a vocal cord to start with.

Huge difference. The young person in a war chose to join the military with knowledge that they may have to go to war and there is a chance that you will give your life for your country. The unborn is a human being with no choice at all and 99% of the time is there because of the irresponsible actions of the parents.

Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes

March 2nd, 2013
10:33 pm

There is not a progressive on this blog that wants to even consider the term personal responsibility.

Oxycontin addicted El Rushbo says, “What?”

DoggoneGA

March 2nd, 2013
10:34 pm

“The young person in a war chose to join the military with knowledge that they may have to go to war and there is a chance that you will give your life for your country – See more at: http://blogs.ajc.com/jay-bookman-blog/2013/03/02/foreign-governments-with-u-s-writers-on-their-payroll/?cp=7#comment-1249430

Yeah, because there are just SO MANY toddlers out there that chose to go to war. It isn’t just soldiers who die in war. I refer you to “collateral damage”

breckenridge

March 2nd, 2013
10:35 pm

It is a poverty to decide that a child must die so that you may live as you wish.” Mother Teresa

Mother Teresa was a good lady, although according to the nonsensical beliefs of born-again Christians she’s not in heaven due to the fact that she was Catholic. Such stupidity…all one can do is shake his head.

However Mother Teresa is not relevant to the abortion discussion in America. Not is the Bible relevant. What is relevant is the Constitution, and the interpretation the Supreme Court thereof.

moonbat betty

March 2nd, 2013
10:35 pm

TaxPayer done got all hysterical.

Towncrier

March 2nd, 2013
10:36 pm

“That is not the fault of Roe v Wade. If it is true, then there should have been a trial for murder. Was there?”

George Tiller was charged with not murder but misdemeanors, as I recall. I don’t know who else has been charged off the top of my head. BTW, as I am sure you are aware, fetal movement can be felt as early as the fourth month of pregnancy – before an unborn child’s legally defined “viability”.

TaxPayer

March 2nd, 2013
10:36 pm

Td,

Not everyone blown up in a war chose to be there. No more so than a child chooses to be shot with an ar15.