Foreign governments with U.S. writers on their payroll?

This is pretty damn scummy:

“A range of mainstream American publications printed paid propaganda for the government of Malaysia, much of it focused on the campaign against a pro-democracy figure there.

The payments to conservative American opinion writers — whose work appeared in outlets from the Huffington Post and San Francisco Examiner to the Washington Times to National Review and RedState — emerged in a filing this week to the Department of Justice. The filing under the Foreign Agent Registration Act outlines a campaign spanning May 2008 to April 2011 and led by Joshua Trevino, a conservative pundit, who received $389,724.70 under the contract and paid smaller sums to a series of conservative writers….

Trevino’s subcontractors included conservative writer Ben Domenech, who made $36,000 from the arrangement, and Rachel Ehrenfeld, the director of the American Center for Democracy, who made $30,000. Seth Mandel, an editor at Commentary, made $5,500. Brad Jackson, writing at the time for RedState, made $24,700. Overall, 10 writers were part of the arrangement.”

You take secret, undisclosed money from a foreign government to write hit pieces in U.S. media against a man, in this case Anwar Ibrahim, who is struggling to bring democracy to his country and was beaten and imprisoned for years for daring to challenge the dictatorial government? (Russia has apparently run similar pay-to-say operations.)

Much of Trevino’s work under the Malaysian contract has been removed by the outlets that published it. But you can get a taste of its amoral quality from this piece that was published as a rebuttal to a Trevino column.

And here’s a Rachel Ehrenfeld piece, condemning Ibrahim for “careless sexual behavior” among other things.

We already know of course that “you can’t believe everything that’s on the Internet.” But paid agents of foreign governments masquerading as American journalists takes things to a dangerous level and says a lot about the character of those involved.

UPDATE: Among those named as receiving money from Malaysia in Trevino’s belated filing as a foreign agent is Christopher Badeaux. Here’s a small sampling of his Malaysia-related work at RedState.com:

“Najib Razak, the Prime Minister of Malaysia, has been on a more or less singular crusade to convince the Muslim world — and the West — that there is a path for moderate Islam in the world, that Islam does not equal terror, and that the taking of a life is contrary to Islam and civilization. His speech at Oxford was of a piece with that….

The salient point here is not whether we agree with the prime minister’s theological assertions, but rather we can appreciate the extraordinary effort he is making here, and the importance for the United States of his efforts.”

And:

In Malaysia, Anwar Ibrahim, the leader of Malaysia’s opposition, has apparently been caught in adultery, with video evidence that Dartmouth scientists say nearly certainly implicates him. The major dailies are calling on him to resign. For three years, after failing to topple the governing party in the 2008 elections, he has crisscrossed the planet telling anyone and everyone who would listen how corrupt and evil the governing party is. And yet despite all of this — despite his stated certainty that his opposition coalition of socialists, Islamists, and yuppie liberals is the only chance his country has to avoid certain doom at the hands of the centrist coalition that has been re-elected time and again in Malaysia, he has refused to resign.”

– Jay Bookman

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Keep Up the Good Fight!

March 3rd, 2013
1:29 pm

Most men who “are men” usually don’t do that

How funny that the FTroopers who bring up their chest thumpin manli-less daily about how others are “kept” and similar stupidity and demand to see the “papers” of anyone who challenges them now resort to childish retorts about how they are “manly” now apparently for not bringing up how manly they are. :lol: :lol:

Oh well, what can you expect from someone who buffoonishly claims that they cannot give in “one iota” on an issue because they are afraid.

Doggone/GA

March 3rd, 2013
1:30 pm

“you have my sympathy if you try to infuse the cat with oil… – See more at: http://blogs.ajc.com/jay-bookman-blog/2013/03/02/foreign-governments-with-u-s-writers-on-their-payroll/?cp=10#comment-1249738

OR the oil with cat!

Erwin's cat

March 3rd, 2013
1:37 pm

(1) Kevlar body suit.

(2) leather welder’s gloves

Fred ™

March 3rd, 2013
1:38 pm

Jamvet: My dad flew 130’s for over 30 years. When I told him I was going to jump school he told me not to tell anyone he knew since only assho… and bird crap fell from the sky lol.

He did all kinds of interesting stuff. Flew into hurricanes, refueled helicopters…….. They had a brilliant idea during VietNam. They took C-130’s and put lights all over them so they could fly low over a battlefield at night and light it up for our soldiers………..
Needless to say, they didn’t last long before being shot down, I think 10 minutes was the longest. My dad was scheduled to fly the “next” mission when they figured out how stupid they were. He went to the briefing where they told him the missions were cancelled.

He walked out to his plane to tell the crew the good news, the suicide mission was called off and there was the crew chief with a BFH (Big F’ing Hammer) just beating hell out of something on one of the engines.

“Is something broken chief?” he asked.

“Not yet sir but I only need another minute.”

He did SAR, dropped troops, covert inserts, you name it. He retired when he busted his flight physical. He didn’t want to fly a desk.

Doggone/GA

March 3rd, 2013
1:41 pm

“(1) Kevlar body suit.

(2) leather welder’s gloves

(3) fencing mask

Fred ™

March 3rd, 2013
1:43 pm

what did i miss?….spent the morning infusing olive oil….now i need to tend to my vinegars
++++++++++++++++++++++++++

If you wouldn’t buy that cheap crappy store brand junk you wouldn’t need to doctor them up………

Fred ™

March 3rd, 2013
1:46 pm

Yo cat, i hit enter too soon. Did you make your own vinegar?

barking frog

March 3rd, 2013
1:48 pm

Does Popeye like olive oil on spinach ?

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March 3rd, 2013
1:48 pm

Good Fight:

You need to work on your reading comprehension.

The phrase always used is “kept by better MEN (emphasis added) than themselves.”

Note: Both may be “men” but one is willing to let other “men” fight on their behalf and of course accept the rewards of their sacrifice. Our history is replete with that from the Revolution through today.

Here’s the full quote for your edification:

“A man who has nothing for which he is willing to fight, nothing which is more important than his own personal safety, is a miserable creature and has no chance of being free unless made and kept so by the exertions of better men than himself.”

John Stuart Mill

NEXT ?

Erwin's cat

March 3rd, 2013
1:49 pm

If you wouldn’t buy that cheap crappy store brand junk you wouldn’t need to doctor them up……… ,

nothing but the best ….Wesson :D

Erwin's cat

March 3rd, 2013
1:50 pm

Fred – yes on the vinegar…takes about 3 months of the red wine and about 6 mo on the champagne

They call me MISTER JamVet.

March 3rd, 2013
1:51 pm

Fred, great stuff.

Watching some of It’s a Mad Mad Mad Mad World, which has the greatest comedic cast ever assembled.

Spencer Tracey, Milton Berle, Sid Caesar, Buddy Hackett, Ethel Merman, Mickey Rooney, Phil Silvers, Jonathan Winters, Jim Backus, Peter Falk, Buster Keaton, Don Knotts, Carl Reiner the Three Stooges (!), Jimmy Durante, Jack Benny and Jerry Lewis.

One of a kind…

Fred ™

March 3rd, 2013
1:53 pm

Too cool EC. I want to try that some time. Right now though I’m busy taking free courses on line ( https://www.coursera.org/ ), trying to get my tree hugger huge garden project going, and learning how to bake. Plus the wife wants me to remodel the whole house………. all this while trying to lose a hundred pounds lol. I see a failure at SOMETHING looming………….

Moderate Line

March 3rd, 2013
1:54 pm

Fred ™
March 2nd, 2013
11:18 am
I am not really sure where you really pointed out anything I said was hypocritical.
That is because in your self righteousness you REFUSE to see it. Everyone else can though. Thanks for playing. I lack time to talk to those who lack morals and intellectual integrity

And you are calling me self-righteous. LOL
I don’t refuse to see anything. I admit to being self righteous and hypocrite like everyone else. The only person that seems to REFUSE to admit is you.

barking frog

March 3rd, 2013
1:54 pm

0311
John Stuart Mill ? The liberal philosopher who was godfather
to Bertrand Russell ? Really ?

Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes

March 3rd, 2013
1:58 pm

“He’s got… Wessonality.”
– Thomas “Florence Henderson” Jefferson

Brosephus™ - Very good, but brick not hit back

March 3rd, 2013
1:58 pm

You keep bringing that up. Most men who “are men” usually don’t do that.

Most men who are men usually act like one too. Obviously, you missed my post to you last night about manning up.

Doggone/GA

March 3rd, 2013
1:59 pm

Fred – “trying to get my tree hugger huge garden project going – See more at: http://blogs.ajc.com/jay-bookman-blog/2013/03/02/foreign-governments-with-u-s-writers-on-their-payroll/?cp=11#comment-1249752

Check out mulch gardening. It can save you a LOT of time and trouble, and it helps improve your garden soil over time. I’ve told this here before, not sure if you were here then…but my sister and I tried it and in a garden that was only about 3 feet x 6 feet (using miniature vegetables) we grew corn, bush peas, runner beans, watermelon, cantelope, radishes, cucumbers, carrots, lettuce, bell peppers, and tomatoes

And all without having to do any weeding and must minimal watering.

Fred ™

March 3rd, 2013
2:00 pm

i THOUGHT my daughter was sitting around the corner reading a book, (well she was earlier), but it seems she is working on a project for school with a friend via her phone and nook. Gotta love modern technology. What I’m proud of though is that she doesn’t go back to school for another week. Next week is their spring break. This same girl spent the night a couple of weeks ago and when I came down to check on them they were STUDYING not giggling and cutting up.

Wow. I didn’t teach her this. I teach her how to cuss, chew tobacco, spit, fart, belch, shoot snot rockets……. you know the IMPORTANT stuff………

Erwin's cat

March 3rd, 2013
2:02 pm

Fred all you need is a container (ceramic with a spigot)
http://www.wikihow.com/Make-Your-Own-Vinegar
some braggs organic vinegar (about 1/2 cup for a mother starter) a cool dark storage and left over wine…and time

I’d love a good garden but i’m just not that dedicated…tomatoes, peppers, and, herbs is about all i can manage….good luck with the projects

barking frog

March 3rd, 2013
2:04 pm

Fred™
Technology has made learning interesting for children and
to some extent allowed them to progress at their own pace.
Schools are almost obsolete except as daycare centers and
it’s a good thing.

Fred ™

March 3rd, 2013
2:04 pm

Doggone: I’m not sure if this is what you are talking about, but by the main Dekalb County Elections office they keep a huge mountain of mulch that you can drive up and shovel into your truck or other containers. I’m going to get as many truck loads as I can and till it into the soil. I have a smaller area I have gardened before that I added about 1000 pounds of cow poop to every year. now I’m expanding that small area to most of my backyard. It will be at least 1/3 of an acre.

I hope to freeze what I can’t eat or sell and use it over the winter. I want to also keep bees and I’ve seen how you can do fish ponds and farm your own tilapia. I want to expand into that as well. I want to see how much of my own food I can produce in an urban setting. obviously I can’t raise livestock, but I may be able to get away with some chickens……… just have to see what the zoning says.

Erwin's cat

March 3rd, 2013
2:07 pm

Doggone – “mulch gardening” …very interesting…maybe there’s hope

Doggone/GA

March 3rd, 2013
2:11 pm

“Dekalb County Elections office they keep a huge mountain of mulch that you can drive up and shovel into your truck or other containers – See more at: http://blogs.ajc.com/jay-bookman-blog/2013/03/02/foreign-governments-with-u-s-writers-on-their-payroll/?cp=11#comment-1249764

that sounds like rotted mulch. Which is good to get your garden started, as long as you till it in well so it’s not too “hot” for the seeds. But “mulch gardening” starts after you’ve prepared the soil and planted the seeds. What you do is get hay (not straw) – sometimes you can get spoiled hay cheap – and you pull it apart into it’s “flakes” which are flattened mats of hay. You don’t fulff it up, just break it into lengths that will fit between your planted rows, and lay it down as tightly pressed together as you can.

The hay will help hold in moisture, and help prevent weeds from sprouting – so no weeding and only minimal watering, depending of course on how much rainfall you get. And once the growing season is over, the hay will slow rot into your soil and help make it better for the next year.

Fred ™

March 3rd, 2013
2:11 pm

EC: Bookmarked. Thanks.

Frog: Her school fosters learning and is huge on technology. They have so much more flexibility and control than public schools. It makes a HUGE difference. Also since it’s NOT a faith school, they don’t waste hours every day learning some religion, they focus all day on scholastics and arts. I would get a night job shoveling crap if I had to to keep her in this school. They EXPECT the students to learn and the parents to help. Being a private school they don’t have to deal with discipline problems, they just send them down the road.

This one definitely isn’t a day care lol.

barking frog

March 3rd, 2013
2:12 pm

Erwin’s cat
Winemaking is much more rewarding than vinegar making……

Doggone/GA

March 3rd, 2013
2:14 pm

Fred & Cat…this is the book my sister and I used, but there are probably lots of others by now:

How to Have a Green Thumb Without an Aching Back: A New Method of Mulch Gardening by Ruth Stout and Leta Macleod Brunckhorst (Feb 1990)

They do have it listed on Amazon.com. Though that’s an updated version. The one my sister and I have is only by Ruth Stout and was published in the late ’50’s I think.

Erwin's cat

March 3rd, 2013
2:15 pm

frog – that’s on the list for this year…you?

Fred ™

March 3rd, 2013
2:16 pm

Doggie: That sounds interesting. I’ll check into it. There is a new tree hugger gardening store that opened up in Tucker. I’m going to go in this week and get all the info I can on tree hugger gardening and I’ll bet she will now about that. I’ll probably pay more for my seeds than I would a Home Depot or Walmart, but if the community doesn’t support it’s assets we simply won’t have any. And the folks at HD dont’ know squat about gardening for the most part, they are kids.

I’m also going to plow up a little space by my front porch for my daughter to plant flowers and build a butterfly garden (and I’ll pop in some herbs and spices), if the damn rain will let me. I SHOULD have done it a couple months ago so we could have tulips.

Fred ™

March 3rd, 2013
2:18 pm

Thanks DG, saved it.

barking frog

March 3rd, 2013
2:18 pm

Fred™
The technology is doing more teaching and will continue to
do more in the future, if adapted, but the mindset of the ‘daycare’
must be adaptable to accepting this and allowing the little mind
to expand unfettered and assisting in the social exploration.

Welcome to the Occupation

March 3rd, 2013
2:21 pm

Olive oil infusers of the world, unite!

barking frog

March 3rd, 2013
2:21 pm

Erwin’s cat
After many years I gave it up and went back to Mogen David Concord Grape.

Corbin Sharpe. I think, therefore I am...I think

March 3rd, 2013
2:23 pm

td @1201′

I read and re-read your post on mine, but the more I read, the more I realized that you did not understand a word I said. Your “answer was so colored by your bias that I realized, again, that those of your ilk, can not or will not understand the responsibility you are taking by your actions. And you fail to realize we, the human being, are not celibate creatures…and you God made us that way. Take your piffle elsewhere, I will not debate with the brainwashed.

kayaker 71

March 3rd, 2013
2:25 pm

You know, at first glance, when the Dennis Rodman story first came out, I thought that this idiot was just grandstanding to make himself look good. Rodman will always be a bit full of himself, no doubt, but if he can get into the head of that little pint sized dictator with even some basketball, perhaps its a start. Now Kim Jung Un wants to talk basketball with Bozo. Sometimes diplomacy starts in strange ways. Rodman has been able to accomplish what the last three or four presidents have not been able to do…… get his attention. Maybe we ought to buy him some Spurs tickets.

indigo

March 3rd, 2013
2:25 pm

Scout – 1:48

That’s a saying that may be true for you.

However, just because John Stuart Mill said it, it’s not something that might be true for EVERY man.

I don’t think Mill came down from the mount, did he?

getalife

March 3rd, 2013
2:28 pm

” Boehner: ‘I Am Concerned’ About Sequester Cuts…
McConnell: They’re ‘Modest’ ”

Divided and concerned as ryan will try to end Medicare again.

Brosephus™ - Very good, but brick not hit back

March 3rd, 2013
2:29 pm

getalife

March 3rd, 2013
2:29 pm

kay,

They want Jordan to go next because they worship him.

getalife

March 3rd, 2013
2:35 pm

“Here’s a video of Iranians cheering the U.S. wrestling team in Tehran”

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/worldviews/wp/2013/02/25/heres-a-video-of-iranians-cheering-the-u-s-wrestling-team-in-tehran/

We lost but they worship the one wrestler that won.

Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes

March 3rd, 2013
2:39 pm

Fred

The best place to go is a local seed and feed store. This looks like a pretty good place.

http://www.yelp.com/biz/standard-feed-and-seed-company-atlanta

Don’t be afraid to ask questions. They are there to help and just hanging around listening to the regulars talk has helped me up here in this small hamlet in the N.C. Mtns.

getalife

March 3rd, 2013
2:40 pm

There is a new documentary on the gatekeepers if Israel’s security coming out against the occupation of Palestinians.. They say it is cruel like the nazis. Israel’s leader refuses to watch it but Israelis are watching it.

getalife

March 3rd, 2013
2:48 pm

Conventional wisdom of inside the beltway are upset because entitlements were not cut.

These are the same idiots that gave us the Iraq disaster so the left won that fight.

josef

March 3rd, 2013
3:00 pm

getalife

It’s interesting and is worth checking out, even if it carries the J Street “seal of approval.”

josef

March 3rd, 2013
3:02 pm

CORBIN

You were a lot more civil to TD than I was going to be. Following your lead, though, I’ll keep my comments to myself.

Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes

March 3rd, 2013
3:04 pm

You were a lot more civil to TD than I was going to be. Following your lead, though, I’ll keep my comments to myself.

Yeah, me too.

But I’ll add an eye roll.

:roll:

getalife

March 3rd, 2013
3:19 pm

Josef,

Did you see the movie?

Brosephus™ - Very good, but brick not hit back

March 3rd, 2013
3:22 pm

josef/Kamchak

He may have been civil, but there was a serious smackdown in that post. Seems as though td is becoming the blog’s punch bag.

:lol: :lol:

getalife

March 3rd, 2013
3:23 pm

td was schooled by the newt so …….

josef

March 3rd, 2013
3:29 pm

FROG, FRED

Technology is, to a great extent overrated, in education/schooling. It is a means to an end, and not the end in of itself. Education is a compilation of any number of experiences of which schooling is only one aspect. It matters little which institution it takes place in. Your swipe about the public institution being a day care center, imeoiuo, speaks more to your uppitiness and snobbery than anything else. I would agree that this is what the school is, but it applies just as much to the private institution as it does to the public.

Education begins at home and extends to the community. Whatever is found there determines the child’s education. Schooling is the institutional socialization process with a few doses of book-learning direction thrown in to keep the l’il b*ggers occupied. You can have all the technology in the world, but unless you have someone who knows something about the subject act as guide and filter, you wind up with a product of the blogosphere.

Fred at least has his child in a day care center which attempts to create a social environment reflecting the make up of the real world. That is highly unusual for the private institution which most often produces its own ghetto environment, a golden ghetto in the case of the “high toned” prep school, but a ghetto nonetheless.

Corbin Sharpe. I think, therefore I am...I think

March 3rd, 2013
3:30 pm

Bro’, Kam, and Josef,

I have old religion Kentucky Hillbilly relatives with less abrasiveness and more tolerance than td.

Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes

March 3rd, 2013
3:30 pm

Seems as though td is becoming the blog’s punch bag.

A role he has chosen.

Doggone/GA

March 3rd, 2013
3:30 pm

“Seems as though td is becoming the blog’s punch bag – See more at: http://blogs.ajc.com/jay-bookman-blog/2013/03/02/foreign-governments-with-u-s-writers-on-their-payroll/?cp=11#comment-1249773

Well…when you lead with your chin….

Fred ™

March 3rd, 2013
3:30 pm

Kam; I’m going to try here first: http://tucker.patch.com/listings/the-garden-enthusiast

I’ve talked to the owner before and she’s a nice little tree hugging hippy wannabe (to young to be a REAL hippy lol). We’ll see what she has. Unless I’m mistaken, she also offers beekeeping classes. USinUK does beekeeping I think. There is a section on her website about it.

josef

March 3rd, 2013
3:33 pm

getalife

Yes. It was highly informative in that it allowed them to say what they had to say, not what anyone was wanting them to say. One of the reasons it is resonating the way it is in Israel is that, whatever the socio-political perspective, “your guy” is there. Thus, what they do say in common is carrying a lot of weight and sparking a real dialogue.

Brosephus™ - Very good, but brick not hit back

March 3rd, 2013
3:36 pm

josef

March 3rd, 2013
3:37 pm

CORBIN

Well, if jackassery were persimmons, possums would get fat at his place…

barking frog

March 3rd, 2013
3:45 pm

josef
Your swipe about the public institution being a day care center, imeoiuo, speaks more to your uppitiness and snobbery than anything else. I would agree that this is what the school is, but it applies just as much to the private institution as it does to the public.
……………………………………………………………………………………………
shorter, all daycares are not equal….

Fred ™

March 3rd, 2013
3:45 pm

josef: I are so right about the “ghetto.” The ONE thing I was worried about, sending my daughter to that school is that she would be surrounded by entitled snobs. It just isn’t the case there. As you said there is a great mix. Arthur Blanks grandson goes to school with the carpenters daughter, and they are judged on their abilities and hard work, not the big or little house they live in. Whether they stay home for spring break or go to Switzerland doesn’t matter when it comes time to hand out A’s and B’s.

What’s funny is how many other parents of modest means I have talked to worried about the same thing and how it hasn’t really been a problem. Are SOME of the parents snobs? Of course. But not as many as one would think. Westminster is where the snobs go lol.

Fred ™

March 3rd, 2013
3:49 pm

LOL I meant YOU are not I are………..

Spring break and BOTH girls have the week off. We aren’t going anywhere dammit but we’ll find some ways to have fun amongst all the work we want to do.

Kam: You REALLY need to scroll back and check out that Osso Buco recipe. I turned out to be AWESOME.

getalife

March 3rd, 2013
3:50 pm

Josef,

Thank you.

The gatekeepers are a tough looking bunch like Brennen and they have a very tough job.

josef

March 3rd, 2013
3:57 pm

FROG

“…shorter, all daycares are not equal….”

True. A public one may be better than the private, and vice versa. Each has to be judged on its own merits/shortcomings.

FRED
That’s why when I’m talking to parents new to the city about which private/public schools I would recommend, yours is top on my list for private schools.

Keep Up the Good Fight!

March 3rd, 2013
3:57 pm

So basically Senior Digits fails to comprehend his favorite misquote. What buffoonery.

josef

March 3rd, 2013
3:57 pm

getalife

I wouldn’t mess lightly with any of them!

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March 3rd, 2013
4:01 pm

Just one more time for the fun of it …………. :o

JAY’S THREAD TOPIC: “Foreign governments with U.S. writers on their payroll?”

Joseph Kennedy (mouthpiece for communists)
Al Gore (mouthpiece for radical Islam)
Dennis Rodman (mouthpiece for two-bit dictators)

Recon 0311 2533

March 3rd, 2013
4:02 pm

‘The Bible” miniseries begins this evening on the History Channel. A ten part series two hours each that begins this evening at 8:00pm and runs each Sunday until Easter. Hopefully, many Americans will tune in. A unrelated question, does anyone know anything about the “Horizon” program in the public school system. They want my daughter to be tested either this month or in September when she’ll begin the first grade. Seems a little young for children in Kindergarten or at the early elementary level to be in such a program. I need to learn more about it.

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March 3rd, 2013
4:02 pm

Brosephus:

You can have the last word ……….. you manly, manly, man you !

barking frog

March 3rd, 2013
4:04 pm

josef
I have long advocated the public schools becoming 24 hr daycare/schools.
Our children are our most important asset. Most parents both work
and they are left to find adequate childcare without much guidance.
Establishing this care would protect and educate the children.

josef

March 3rd, 2013
4:04 pm

As far as educational institutions are concerned, I was “lucky” in that my folks saw to it that I experienced the range. From the rural, mill-town public to the most exclusive prep, with stops along the way for Catholic schools, urban “inner city,” suburban public, old neighborhood public…the quality and content of the curriculum and the expectations were pretty much the same across the board. The teachers were highly qualified and skilled. The only difference was the composition of the the student body and with it “the community.” I was happier in some than in others. I had no problems “fitting in” in any of them. Some I wanted to “fit in,” others I did not.

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March 3rd, 2013
4:04 pm

HOW COULD THIS HAPPEN ? The Atlanta Airport (and all of it’s property) is a “GUN FREE ZONE” !

Headline (AJC): “Airport shuttle van stolen at gunpoint”

“Atlanta police spokeswoman K.Y. Jones said the man pulled a gun at Hartsfield-Jackson International airport at about 3:15 a.m. after the shuttle driver and several taxi drivers refused to give him a ride.”

http://www.ajc.com/news/news/crime-law/airport-shuttle-van-stolen-at-gunpoint/nWfwJ/

They call me MISTER JamVet.

March 3rd, 2013
4:05 pm

Here’s one that the corporal “forgot”…

Prescott Bush – business partner with the Nazis. (At least until his company’s assets were seized in 1942 under the Trading with the Enemy Act.)

getalife

March 3rd, 2013
4:07 pm

No wonder w liked occupations.

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March 3rd, 2013
4:08 pm

barking frog @ 4:04

Hey ………. what a great idea ! The kids can even sleep there so the parents are free to do fun things other than raising their children !

And hey, it can be paid for by the next stimulus program !

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March 3rd, 2013
4:09 pm

JamVet:

If the shoe fits wear it. There’s plenty on both sides but Jay forgot to point that out.

barking frog

March 3rd, 2013
4:10 pm

0311
The parents will be free to work and pay taxes to support
your double dipping inflated pensions off the taxpayer dollar.

0311/8541/5811/1811/1801

March 3rd, 2013
4:11 pm

JamVet:

And don’t forget that “rumrunner” Joseph Kennedy, Sr. ………….. :o

getalife

March 3rd, 2013
4:11 pm

scout,

Did your pension get cut?

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March 3rd, 2013
4:11 pm

barking frog:

Ah …………………. just one well earned dip but ……… another great idea !!!

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March 3rd, 2013
4:13 pm

getalife:

No ………… not yet ……….. bet that’s o.k. if it happens. I’ll do my share.

By the way, there are veterans benefits I have never claimed as I feel I would rather leave those to others. Just my way of saying thanks to my country in a different way.

How about you ?

barking frog

March 3rd, 2013
4:13 pm

0311 4:11
glad you agree….

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March 3rd, 2013
4:14 pm

Excuse me:

“but that’s o.k.”

They call me MISTER JamVet.

March 3rd, 2013
4:14 pm

A matter of degrees.

Cuddling up to, aiding and abetting the most infamous mass murderers in modern history in infinitely more damning than all of your silly examples put together.

josef

March 3rd, 2013
4:14 pm

DEL

Dropping our tiff for a minute here…is this the name your system gives for its gifted and talented program? If so, how does it operate? Are the children in a single class with one another all day, or are they pulled out for a specific number of hours per day?

Go and observe the class in operation. It has been relatively unusual to test and place children in Kinder in such programs, but as we move more to early intervention strategies for the high achievers, it has become more common. It is a form of “tracking,” but not a negative one. The main thing, though, is to keep an eye on how she relates. Bottom line if it is a “talented” program, it looks good on a resume and this early an entry looks best.

Don’t worry about the “pressure,” though, the curricula generally speaking do not begin to put that on them until around the third grade.

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March 3rd, 2013
4:15 pm

barking frog:

You’re welcome.

Fred ™

March 3rd, 2013
4:15 pm

josef: you REALLY need to check out Coursera. If you have a teaching certificate, you have to take continuing education. With their signature track you can get that from them. I’m currently taking two courses (others start later) AIDS and Internet History and Security. Both just started and as such one can still join. The reason I bring it up is because I’m doing my Internet class in between posts lol. Unfortunately I got behind with that whole dryer mess so i had to drop a few classes I really wanted. Oh well, they will come back around……

https://www.coursera.org/

getalife

March 3rd, 2013
4:16 pm

“How about you ?”

I am doing well under President Obama but did better under President Clinton.

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March 3rd, 2013
4:16 pm

JamVet:

“Cuddling up to, aiding and abetting the most infamous mass murderers in modern history:”

You mean like our government did with Stalin ? I think the stats show he murdered even more than Hitler.

Fred ™

March 3rd, 2013
4:17 pm

Del: Is that the same Bible series that Roma Downey (Touched by an Angel) did? If so it’s on GMC as well.

I want to see it.

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March 3rd, 2013
4:18 pm

getalife:

No ……….. I meant have you ever actually “served” your country or given it back something you didn’t need or not received something you could do without ?

That’s what I meant.

You know.

barking frog

March 3rd, 2013
4:19 pm

Recon
Who plays God in the tv show ?

getalife

March 3rd, 2013
4:20 pm

scout,

Yes I am very patriotic American fighting for the President of the United States.

Fred ™

March 3rd, 2013
4:22 pm

Never mind Del. I just googled it. It is. I didn’t pay enough attention the ads on GMC and it’s only on the History Channel.

barking frog

March 3rd, 2013
4:22 pm

0311
Why are you ungrateful and spurn your country’s rewards ?
Other vets cannot get your benefits. The money will just be
given to moochers.

They call me MISTER JamVet.

March 3rd, 2013
4:22 pm

Justify the traitors in the Bush family how you will, but it is a completely absurd comparison. Without Stalin you, would be speaking German right now.

And if you are going to hammer Uncle Sam for using right wing dictators to further his aims than you must stand in complete awe of Reagan’s record, huh? I’m not sure that there was even one single murderous thug around the globe in the 1980s that he didn’t arm and fund. Usually to kill their own innocent people – all justified by the Red Scare. Ironic, huh?

josef

March 3rd, 2013
4:23 pm

FROG

I am of mixed opinions on that, but pressed to make the call, I come out in favor of them. It does institutionalize the child, but in so many cases it is far better to have a nurturing institution with choice than the destructive institution of the legal system.

The Israeli kibbutznikim did it and the results were mixed. They have moved away from it.

Of course, our own situation is not comparable in cause, I’m speaking more toward results and there’s just not enough “evidence” there for me to feel comfortable in making a hard stand one way or the other.

That, though, is the 24 hour ones. We definitely need such a program for the late afternoon/early evening hours to fill in the gap of school’day/work day. This, from my point of view, is a critical need.

Fred ™

March 3rd, 2013
4:23 pm

Barking frog: Check for yourself. Looks like God isn’t in the movie.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt2254092/fullcredits?ref_=tt_cl_sm#cast

Recon 0311 2533

March 3rd, 2013
4:23 pm

josef,

It was my impression that it was a state wide program but I could be wrong. Evidently, the children are in a regular grade level class but are pulled out periodically through the week to attend special learning classes. I don’t feel comfortable with elite classes with elite teachers at such an early age, however, if there’s some benefit for the child I wouldn’t want her to miss out.

appleseed

March 3rd, 2013
4:27 pm

Horizon program be a conservative program they test your kids to see if they have the capabilities to carry on as is.Like in a horizonal plane.If they test more to the vertical,then they will try to indoctrinate into the Democrat party.Not intended to be factual.disclaimer.

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March 3rd, 2013
4:29 pm

getalife:

“Yes I am very patriotic American fighting for the President of the United States.”

That didn’t answer my questions to you but that’s o.k.

I understand.

josef

March 3rd, 2013
4:29 pm

FRED

I’m going into the first stages of retirement now and will be off on a different track to spend my “golden years” doing some of the things I want to do just for myself. I’ll still be putting in my time in education, but outside the system. I’ve had my belly full of the bureaucracy and structured systems.