When the GOP’s tax myth collides with reality…

The myth:

“The revenue issue is now closed…. You’re talking about how much — you’re asking a question, how much more money do we want to steal from the American people to fund more government? I’m for no more.”

– House Speaker John Boehner, Feb. 28, 2013

The reality:

Share of income paid in total federal taxes, 1979-2009, by income group

Source: Tax Policy Center, http://www.taxpolicycenter.org/taxfacts/displayafact.cfm?Docid=456

Source: Tax Policy Center, http://www.taxpolicycenter.org/taxfacts/displayafact.cfm?Docid=456

The American people are being sold a story that is simply, factually untrue. These are the most recent data available, indicating that every single income group is paying less of their income in taxes than at any point in the last 30 years.

– Jay Bookman

505 comments Add your comment

Redcoat

March 1st, 2013
3:08 pm

Doggone/GA………doesn’t the President sign those bills? They all want to be re-elected and spending is the easiest way.

JohnnyReb

March 1st, 2013
3:08 pm

Bosch – glad you will be here more often. The place has run rabbid Left in your absence. Granny and Kammie can’t keep them under control. You would think this is a Liberal blog !

Mick

March 1st, 2013
3:08 pm

reb

That was quite juvenile and not worthy for even that age group…stick to what you know and that is?

getalife

March 1st, 2013
3:09 pm

reb,

You are free to be stupid and a member of the stupid party.

Proceed reb.

Aquagirl

March 1st, 2013
3:09 pm

The cons still swallow every word from failed rw media and a failed party.

It cracks me up when td cites Jeff Sessions, like the good Senator actually sat down with a calculator and figured up costs on Federal workers.

More likely it was Sen. Session’s Chief of Staff, or Assistant Chief of Staff, or one of his two office assistants, or his Communication Director. But then they probably delegated the task to the Scheduler, Executive Assistant, or one of his several other various Assistants.

JohnnyReb

March 1st, 2013
3:10 pm

So it’s true, Liberals have no sense of humor.

They call me MISTER JamVet.

March 1st, 2013
3:10 pm

Don’t whine about its rigor, now.

Unless I am wildly mistaken, Obama is not whining about it, or anything else that I’m aware of.

The Obama haters however are endlessly whining about him. As in everything about him, his wife, his children, his past, present and future, what he does, what he doesn’t do, his vacations, wishing he went on more vacations, his appearances, his non-appearances, his speaking out, his not speaking out, his every sleeping and waking moment and of course that he had nothing to do with killing Osama bin Laden.

That doesn’t even begin to cover the derangement syndrome, but you get the idea!

Bosch

March 1st, 2013
3:12 pm

Reb,

Doesn’t look so rabid left to me…I mean, hell, you got your td, your keith, your Corporal, your jm, spouting off the same old crap. I feel I never left! :) now….about that nap…

They call me MISTER JamVet.

March 1st, 2013
3:12 pm

Liberals have no sense of humor.

Which explains why 99% of the world’s most favorite comedians are………………..?

Doggone/GA

March 1st, 2013
3:13 pm

“doesn’t the President sign those bills? They all want to be re-elected and spending is the easiest way – See more at: http://blogs.ajc.com/jay-bookman-blog/2013/03/01/when-the-gops-tax-myth-collides-with-reality/?cp=5#sthash.moM5fGm1.dpuf

Which bills? Budget? No Appropriations? Yes

BUT, if he vetoes an appropriations bill he vetoes ALL of it, so like ALL Presidents this one has to choose the lesser of 2 evils: veto it and shut down everything it applies to, or sign it and accept the things he doesn’t neccessarily want.

And the bottom line is: appropriations are intiated in the House. All this damn “cut spending” indiocy is being done by people who are basically saying “stop us before we do EVEN MORE STUPIDITY”

DannyX

March 1st, 2013
3:13 pm

“That doesn’t even begin to cover the derangement syndrome, but you get the idea!”

BENGHAZI!!!

Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes

March 1st, 2013
3:14 pm

So it’s true, the smoking gun was the mushroom cloud.

No, that’s not right…

So it’s true, we were greeted as liberators.

No, that’s not right either.

“What happened they ask? Who the hell is Obama Bush, asks Pinocchio.”

Redcoat

March 1st, 2013
3:14 pm

getalife…….you defined mooching as taking “borrowed” money from the government….so it must be ok then…….to be a moocher……right?

DannyX

March 1st, 2013
3:15 pm

“Which explains why 99% of the world’s most favorite comedians are…”

Well, Republicans do have Victoria Jackson. And of course last years presidential candidates.

They call me MISTER JamVet.

March 1st, 2013
3:17 pm

Danny, Ben Gazi is the ODS gang’s new Fast and Frumious Bandersnatch…

(Wasn’t he the guy in the Lewis Carrol poem Jabberwocky who dressed up like BHO and sold guns to the Mexican narcoterrorists? Or am I mistaken about that?)

Redcoat

March 1st, 2013
3:17 pm

Doggone/GA………..What happened to that “taking it one line at a time” talk I recall our President lured us with?

getalife

March 1st, 2013
3:18 pm

“EUROZONE JOBLESS HITS ANOTHER RECORD…

Italy hits 21-year high…

26.2% in Spain…

Britain slides toward new recession..” drudgey.

This is what the cons want.

They are self defeatists.

Never ever listen to a con and take them seriously.

getalife

March 1st, 2013
3:18 pm

red,

You are a moocher.

stands for decibels - Private Pyle has a full magazine that is locked and loaded

March 1st, 2013
3:19 pm

The Obama haters however are endlessly whining about him. As in everything about him, his wife

A.k.a. the “first battle axe”

appleseed

March 1st, 2013
3:20 pm

Seems buying power of $ would be more fair comparsion.It’s eroding fast.

Doggone/GA

March 1st, 2013
3:20 pm

“What happened to that “taking it one line at a time” talk I recall our President lured us with – See more at: http://blogs.ajc.com/jay-bookman-blog/2013/03/01/when-the-gops-tax-myth-collides-with-reality/?cp=5#sthash.3TLfUqCl.dpuf

If you were dumb enough to believe that, I can’t help you. The President does not have any sort of “line-item” control and if you read the Constitution, he won’t ever have without a Constitution amendment.

In the middle

March 1st, 2013
3:22 pm

Haven’t read all the “rhetoric” yet. Just a completely amateurish blog. Jay presented a statement about “revenue” made in 2013, after the tax increases and only showed data through 2009, before tax increase. I suppose the intent was to show JB was wrong, However Jay you did not provide data in the correct period to support this. Very poorly done..

appleseed

March 1st, 2013
3:23 pm

Doggone/GA

March 1st, 2013
3:23 pm

“Just a completely amateurish blog”

Hey pro! blogspot.com is ready when you are

QE 4 EVAH?

March 1st, 2013
3:24 pm

So you gonna tell me next that “they” was born in Kenya? Because that’s what I’ve heard.

No, I’m telling you what the dem reps said. Obama and his advisors did not push to close Gitmo. Obama bit off more than he could chew. Now he and those who believed him will have to choke on it.

In the middle

March 1st, 2013
3:24 pm

If I were only paid to blog, what a dream.

They call me MISTER JamVet.

March 1st, 2013
3:26 pm

stands, regarding “Moochele”, most of our cons are pigs.

Doggone/GA

March 1st, 2013
3:26 pm

“No, I’m telling you what the dem reps said. Obama and his advisors did not push to close Gitmo”

Got proof?

getalife

March 1st, 2013
3:27 pm

The gop know austerity failed in Europe but want it anyway.

The gop are country last.

Doggone/GA

March 1st, 2013
3:28 pm

“stands, regarding “Moochele”, most of our cons are pigs.
– See more at: http://blogs.ajc.com/jay-bookman-blog/2013/03/01/when-the-gops-tax-myth-collides-with-reality/?cp=5#comment-1248422

Why are you insulting pigs?

barking frog

March 1st, 2013
3:29 pm

in the middle
http://paidtoblogdaily.com -this may help…

They call me MISTER JamVet.

March 1st, 2013
3:31 pm

getalife

March 1st, 2013
3:33 pm

Finally, he suggested that austerity in a depressed economy may well be self-defeating even in purely fiscal terms: “Besides having adverse effects on jobs and incomes, a slower recovery would lead to less actual deficit reduction in the short run for any given set of fiscal actions.”

“So the deficit is not a clear and present danger, spending cuts in a depressed economy are a terrible idea and premature austerity doesn’t make sense even in budgetary terms. Regular readers may find these propositions familiar, since they’re pretty much what I and other progressive economists have been saying all along. But we’re irresponsible hippies. Is Ben Bernanke? (Well, he has a beard.) ” Krugman on Bernanke.

In the middle

March 1st, 2013
3:40 pm

I have decided to live my life like the federal government. I am going to go out and spend on anything I want without regard to my income or ability to pay it back. All businesses should support me because.

a. If I don’t have enough money to buy everything I want it is my employers fault not mine and I should be given unlimited credit to make up for my lack of ncome

b. If I stop spending as much as I want than all of the companies that I purchase products from will need to cutback, and we can’t have that.

I propose we make it a law that everybody in the country be given unlimited credit and be required to purchase well in excess of anything they can afford.

This will fix everything, right?

stands for decibels - Private Pyle has a full magazine that is locked and loaded

March 1st, 2013
3:41 pm

My bad…

That’ll do, pig. That’ll do.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rjQtzV9IZ0Q

getalife

March 1st, 2013
3:43 pm

The facts are in, both parties agree it is horrible policy but lets do it anyway.

It is ignorant , self defeating and people will get hurt.

Insane.

Paul

March 1st, 2013
3:44 pm

“but does NOT LIMIT (emphasis added) the right to keep and bear arms to militia purposes.”

Oh, all right, Scout. Sigh… I’ll ask…

What are you going to do with this militia you keep on about?

March into a VA Hospital, yell Semper Fi and kill a bunch of doctors working for the tyrannical federal government?

Shoot up a control tower because the feds are taking over the airspace?

Break into a Centers for Disease Control research lab and kill the doctors because they’re working on germ warfare to let loose on the population when the tyrants give the orders?

or hopefully, you’ll just put on camo and pretend they’re BDUs and you’ll limit your guerrilla activities to running around the woods with a paintball gun -

In the middle

March 1st, 2013
3:45 pm

People are already getting hurt. But at least the POTUS can use this as yet another distraction to keep us from focusing on the real issues.

They call me MISTER JamVet.

March 1st, 2013
3:45 pm

Ken

March 1st, 2013
3:46 pm

I see Obama ha his priorities . Talked about the economy five minutes and gay rights twenty minutes. Please leave while we still have a country.

They call me MISTER JamVet.

March 1st, 2013
3:47 pm

In the middle, are you one of those in the middle rabid Republicans?

Regnad Kcin

March 1st, 2013
3:47 pm

“Talked about the economy five minutes and gay rights twenty minutes. Please leave while we still have a country.”

Ken, you’re not as funny as keith, but keep trying! :)

In the middle

March 1st, 2013
3:47 pm

Paul- I plan on using my to repel zombie invaders. and……..if ever necessary, defend myself and my family which I pray never happens.

DannyX

March 1st, 2013
3:49 pm

“People are already getting hurt. But at least the POTUS can use this as yet another distraction to keep us from focusing on the real issues.”

In the middle, I’ll give you 2 whole cents for that post, where do I send it?

In the middle

March 1st, 2013
3:50 pm

They call me MISTER JamVet. – Not rabid at all, just have my values and beliefs, sometimes they go left and sometimes they go right. Depends on the topic.

In the middle

March 1st, 2013
3:50 pm

Send it to Wounded Warrior.

Mike

March 1st, 2013
3:50 pm

MUSIC PLEASE!!!!

stands for decibels - tired of taglines

March 1st, 2013
3:51 pm

“It’s not going to be an apocalypse … it’s just dumb.”

No sh-t, Sherlock. Why’d you feed this troll in the first place, Mr. President?

Why do you keep talking about “balancing” spending cuts and tax increases, and give weight to the Republican lie that we have a “spending problem?”

When are you going to admit that the centrists in your party are complete f-ckups and that the hippies have been right all along?

Really getting tired of this crap.

ITS ALL BUSH 'S FAULT

March 1st, 2013
3:51 pm

CONS will cave ….LOSERS…

dbm

March 1st, 2013
3:53 pm

First, we need to educate more people on philosophical fundamentals. In particular, we need to achieve a radical change in people’s thinking on what government is and what it should do. This will take time.

Then we can start moving government out of all the things it shouldn’t be in. This is the real cure for our problems with excessive government spending, taxes, and deficits. It will also free our economy from a lot of inefficiencies and distortions.

I just hope we can get all this done before the way things are now leads to catastrophe.

Guy

March 1st, 2013
3:54 pm

Revenue means nothing if wasteful and unnecessary spending is not stopped. Is that so hard to understand?

Doggone/GA

March 1st, 2013
3:56 pm

“Revenue means nothing if wasteful and unnecessary spending is not stopped. Is that so hard to understand? – See more at: http://blogs.ajc.com/jay-bookman-blog/2013/03/01/when-the-gops-tax-myth-collides-with-reality/?cp=5#comment-1248424

And neccessary and needed spending it nothing without the revenue to support it. Is that so hard to understand?

In the middle

March 1st, 2013
3:58 pm

I became a fiscal conservative during my professional career. Started at the lowest level in a company and worked my way up the ol’ corporate ladder. I became furious when I saw how exec’s spent money without regard to the hard work that went into generating that money. I felt that the guys at the top had no consideration for the effort that the guys at the bottom went through, working overtime, weekends, holidays,bithdays and on and on while the top echelon spent the money that resulted from that work as if it were nothing. I have no respect for anybody that doesn’t appreciate the effort it takes to get money for the company or money for the governemnt.

If this makes me a rabid republican, than so be it.

DownInAlbany

March 1st, 2013
4:00 pm

ITS ALL BUSH ‘S FAULT

March 1st, 2013
3:51 pm

CONS will cave ….LOSERS…

If they say, no…they are the obstructionists. If they agree…they “cave.” Some folks just can’t win!

tom gambeski

March 1st, 2013
4:01 pm

16.5 TRILLION IN DEBT,47 MILLION ON FOOD STAMPS,REAL UNEMPLOYMENT 10.6 % MINORITIES 25%,1 TRILLION MORE DEBT IN 2013 WITH MORE ON THE WAY.
Jay,Stop with the fictional numbers game.
Anyone really interested in the truth should go to all the empty strip centers around this town and this country to find out the dismal condition our economy is in.
As long as you and your cohorts continue carry Obama’s water you’ll be considered by many as just another group of “useful idiots” and flunkies for the Democrat Party.

williebkind

March 1st, 2013
4:01 pm

Be careful conservatives you might get a an email stating you will REGRET talking bad about Obama.

Doggone/GA

March 1st, 2013
4:02 pm

“If this makes me a rabid republican, than so be it. – See more at: http://blogs.ajc.com/jay-bookman-blog/2013/03/01/when-the-gops-tax-myth-collides-with-reality/?cp=5#comment-1248447

Well, I’m a “rabid Democrat” and I agree with everything you said. But I learned a long, LONG time ago that there’s nothing I can do about it. I’m working right now for a company I despise, but you know what? They pay me well and I do a good job for them because they do. How I feel about them has nothing to do with that. Time’s too short to waste it worrying about what I can’t control. Been there, done that. Never got a T-Shirt…but I have much greater peace of mind since I stopped that kind of worrying.

DownInAlbany

March 1st, 2013
4:02 pm

“I am not a dictator,” President Obama said Friday while defending his efforts to stop the sequester. “I’m the president.”

He keeps saying this. Who, exactly, is he trying to convince?

DannyX

March 1st, 2013
4:02 pm

“Be careful conservatives you might get a an email stating you will REGRET talking bad about Obama.”

REGRETZI!!!

Doggone/GA

March 1st, 2013
4:03 pm

“He keeps saying this. Who, exactly, is he trying to convince? – See more at: http://blogs.ajc.com/jay-bookman-blog/2013/03/01/when-the-gops-tax-myth-collides-with-reality/?cp=5#comment-1248452

The people who keep saying he should be doing things that ONLY a dictator can do.

Erwin's cat

March 1st, 2013
4:06 pm

He keeps saying this. Who, exactly, is he trying to convince?

kinda like “I am not a crook”…or “I did not have relations with that woman”

Thomas Heyward Jr

March 1st, 2013
4:08 pm

Jedi Mind Meld?
.
What the………………
.
That proves that Obamao ain’t no American.
While we were watching Star Trek and Star Wars………………that Marxist was memorizing the 27 steps of the al-hudah.
.
lol and …………………….carry on.

They call me MISTER JamVet.

March 1st, 2013
4:08 pm

weeniebkind, Woodward’s histrionics are old news…

You guys need a new, even more impotent, poutrage about the leader of the free world that you despise…

barking frog

March 1st, 2013
4:11 pm

I don’t know why the debtboinkers don’t include all the unfunded
liabilities of the federal government like vet pensions and employee
pensions. This would give them a number with which they could really
scare themselves.

stands for decibels

March 1st, 2013
4:12 pm

youze guys know there are BOOZIE MUSIC SHEETZ up, right?

just checkin’.

TBS

March 1st, 2013
4:12 pm

“He keeps saying this. Who, exactly, is he trying to convince? ”

This guy maybe?

“You don’t get everything you want. A dictatorship would be a lot easier.” Describing what it’s like to be governor of Texas.
Bush

“I told all four that there are going to be some times where we don’t agree with each other, but that’s OK. If this were a dictatorship, it would be a heck of a lot easier, just so long as I’m the dictator,” Bush

“A dictatorship would be a heck of a lot easier, there’s no question about it, ”
Bush

Liberal Pariah

March 1st, 2013
4:13 pm

‘I am not a dictator’…Barack Obama on 3/1/13 COMPLAINING :-)

Guy

March 1st, 2013
4:13 pm

Doggone,I meant increasin g revenue. You are right like always!

Liberal Pariah

March 1st, 2013
4:13 pm

Now that the Pope has stepped down, Obama is the only one who is infallible.

barking frog

March 1st, 2013
4:14 pm

JamVet
I think it is time to dispense with free in leader of the free world.
not much that is not free anymore and I think he is leader of that
portion also, so I believe it is leader of the world now.

stands for decibels

March 1st, 2013
4:14 pm

kinda like “I am not a crook”…or “I did not have relations with that woman”

Which would be great if Obama weren’t about the furthest thing from a dictator.

Whereas, well, Bill really did have sexual relations with that woman, and Nixon really was a crook.

headin’ back upstairs for a bit.

TM

March 1st, 2013
4:15 pm

If you do the math every one but the rich got a substantial tax break over the years, The bottom rate was reduced by 85%. Who paid for their tax breaks? ,

barking frog

March 1st, 2013
4:17 pm

TM
If you do the math every one but the rich got a substantial tax break over the years, The bottom rate was reduced by 85%. Who paid for their tax breaks? ,
…………………………………………………………..
government cutbacks…

They call me MISTER JamVet.

March 1st, 2013
4:18 pm

frog, prolly…

How about the leader of the kinda, quasi, sorta free world? LOL!

(Cue up the freedom ain’t free sayings!)

barking frog

March 1st, 2013
4:19 pm

JamVet -freedom’s just another word for nothing left to lose…

saywhat?

March 1st, 2013
4:22 pm

When people spend wastefully, for instance, like going out to Starbucks for coffee when they have coffee at home, or buying some knick-knack at Target that they don’t really need, do they then insist on not paying their mortgage, or their car payment, while asking their employer to dock their pay? Because that would be pure genius, wouldn’t it?

Brosephus™ - Mobile and Multitasking

March 1st, 2013
4:22 pm

td @ 2:28

Wow! Talk about looking for affirmation in an echo chamber… A right leaning paper has a quote from a right leaning congressman and you believe it with every cell of your body. :lol:

Did Sessions also acknowledge that Congress had 18 months to write and pass debt reduction legislation for Obama to sign? Had they given him such legislation that only needed his signature, then he would have room to point fingers. As it stands now, Congress has not done their job, so any blame resides with 535 jackasses, both right and left. If Sessions actually knew anything about the Constitution, he would not have pointed fingers. If you knew anything about the Constitution, you would not have quoted him.

Liberal Pariah

March 1st, 2013
4:23 pm

The Washington Tater Family
Obama as Dick-tater
Nancy Pelosi as Agi-tater
People Dems Say They Care About as Po-taters
Harry Reid as Iri-tater
John Boehner as Spec-tater

saywhat?

March 1st, 2013
4:24 pm

Liberal Pariah

March 1st, 2013
4:13 pm
Now that the Pope has stepped down, Obama is the only one who is infallible.
———————————————————
When asked after his first term if he had made any mistakes, Obama said he couldn’t think of any. Oh wait, that was Bush.

Liberal Pariah

March 1st, 2013
4:26 pm

At least the media asked Bush, something they don’t do with Obama. Probably because the one you worship is incapable of making any mistakes. Back atcha.

They call me MISTER JamVet.

March 1st, 2013
4:26 pm

frog,

For me, this song still has a mountain of emotional power connected to it…

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G3JnexsN4oc

saywhat?

March 1st, 2013
4:27 pm

Liberal Pariah

March 1st, 2013
4:23 pm
The Washington Tater Family
Obama as Dick-tater
Nancy Pelosi as Agi-tater
People Dems Say They Care About as Po-taters
Harry Reid as Iri-tater
John Boehner as Spec-tater
————————————
Republicans as Mathtabur-taters.

Liberal Pariah

March 1st, 2013
4:27 pm

We should sequester Congress and make them watch reruns of ‘Keeping Up WIth The Kardashians’ until they do their job.

They call me MISTER JamVet.

March 1st, 2013
4:28 pm

At least the media asked Bush…

Yeah, it only took them six years.

Talk about the liberal media (LOL) giving that screw up a free ride…

Liberal Pariah

March 1st, 2013
4:28 pm

say…good one :-)

Liberal Pariah

March 1st, 2013
4:29 pm

Talk about a free ride for a screw up…Obama meet you fan club

They call me MISTER JamVet.

March 1st, 2013
4:32 pm

Obama is certainly a screw up. As noted a couple of days ago, he is a better Republican than George was. Bush was a screw up times 10. (But you already knew that!)

Community Organizer (with-no-desire-to-govern, little-care-for-high-unemployment, no-talent-for-leadership,-zero-desire-to-compromise-and-a-lust-for-making-my-enemies-pay) Obama

March 1st, 2013
4:34 pm

Obviously, Jay (who is no doubt lighting up his rockabilly decorated bong) is going to tell half the story. Brookings and Urban institute will help liberals, but what I get out of the graph posted is that before Obama, those in the lower quintiles were actually working, that tax revenue from THEM is what has dried up the most significantly, and that the big O cares nothing for their employment.

Besides, Boehner said nothing damnable. He simply said The myth:

“The revenue issue is now closed…. You’re talking about how much — you’re asking a question, how much more money do we want to steal from the American people to fund more government? I’m for no more.”

Jay pretends, as he always does, that he is countering bravely what Boehner has said. As usually, he’s just talking past him, amusing his liberal friends with an ancillary bit of information not relevant to what the Speaker said.

The other half of the story? ?

Here…

http://www.ntu.org/tax-basics/who-pays-income-taxes.html

Want to make sense of it? Then you’re a conservative.

Liberals don’t care.

Demagogue, demonize and call republicans selfish. That’s the theme here today..

Heck, that’s what liberals say everyday.

That Black Guy

March 1st, 2013
4:39 pm

Mick

March 1st, 2013
12:39 pm
woodstock

What about your prejudices? I really hate being lumped in with all the folks you demonize daily. I’ve
______________________________________________________
Mick, honestly, don’t you do that to “cons” everyday?

Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes

March 1st, 2013
4:43 pm

Demagogue, demonize and call republicans selfish. That’s the theme here today..

Heck, that’s what liberals say everyday.

Ann Coulter says, “What?”

Brosephus™ - Mobile and Multitasking

March 1st, 2013
4:44 pm

Slowly getting caught up but this is worth repeating.

All this damn “cut spending” indiocy is being done bypeople who are basically saying “stop us before we do EVEN MORE STUPIDITY”

Welcome to the Occupation

March 1st, 2013
4:52 pm

JamVet: “Obama is certainly a screw up. As noted a couple of days ago, he is a better Republican than George was. Bush was a screw up times 10″

You got that right comrade!

Welcome to the Occupation

March 1st, 2013
4:56 pm

Been away today. Hope I didn’t miss much.

How are my lib ilks and con ilks doing today?

keith

March 1st, 2013
5:15 pm

we dont have a spending problem? what planet are you on?

Welcome to the Occupation

March 1st, 2013
5:22 pm

keith: “we dont have a spending problem? what planet are you on?”

Kinda blew your mind, didn’t it?

Welcome to the Occupation

March 1st, 2013
5:31 pm

Keith: “we dont have a spending problem? ”

Well, we don’t have a spending problem of course.

But that doesn’t stop the 1% from putting out their propaganda to convince gullible people like you that we do.

As you can see, it works, Sucker born every minute.

liberal hack

March 1st, 2013
6:14 pm

Welcome to the Occupation. I bet you can get a flight to your kind of paradise to North Korea anytime you want to buddy…

Jay, those figures do not show how much in sales tax we pay, fees to maintain tags, property tax, state income tax, FICA taxes, ect… WE are the most overtaxed as a nation in our history. And you advocate a family of 6 making 30,000-40,000 should be paying 15% of their income to the Federal gov’t. Are you advocating that a small business owner who makes 2 million in sales pay 30% (Buffet rule) of it’s income to the federal gov’t.

Jay, there is a huge difference between an athlete or a CEO who earns 2 million a year in income and a small business owner who grosses 2 million in sales. You say tax them the same. that is not right, your only fix is to close loopholes, raise tax rates on everybody and you claim it’s fair. except for huge cuts in defense, I mostly agree with btw, and a little reform of Medicare and SS, you don’t really want budget cuts, you want a federal gov’t with a wide safety net redistributing large sums of wealth, controling 50% of the economy. You will kill this country that way.

Vast Right Wing Conspiracy (aka "Knuckle-Dragger")

March 1st, 2013
6:17 pm

This is so intellectually dishonest it is absurd (by the way, Jay, you probably should explain to your democrat faithful what a “quintile” is).

This may surprise you, but folks pay other taxes, also – state income tax (in most states), property tax, various types of ad valorem taxes, sales tax, various utility taxes; if I had a couple of hours I could list them all. Then there are the “opportunity cost” taxes, such as inflation, provided to us by geniuses like our president the imperial viceroy and his minions when they spend money like drunken sailors and have to have guys like Bernanke electronically create money to keep everything afloat. Have you noticed the price of cereal and the size of the box it comes in compared to seven or eight years ago (not to mention the price of gas)? There are also other taxes like private school, when you can not put your children in a local public school system (like DeKalb or Clayton) because it reeks. Now, we wanted our children in a Christian school, but many are just trying to escape a weak public situation. All this adds up. I am taxed too much. If I never paid another dime in taxes (unlikely), it would be too much.

Next, Jay, who are you to decide what the proper federal taxation percentage is? I think it should be five percent, at most. I am just as qualified as you to decide. President Reagan (Ronaldus Magnus, as Rush calls him) got a good thing going, and it should continue, if we desire the greatest chance for prosperity for all our citizens.

To summarize, you are wrong again, Jay. What a surprise.

keith

March 1st, 2013
6:37 pm

as long as liberals are saying yes mr president you are great, you are good in their daily prayer all is good. But the second one makes a monumental mistake like thinking for themselves their wrath is upon them.Bob Woodward has learned this. BTW Lanny Davis is backing woodward up, obama thugs threatened him too.

Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes

March 1st, 2013
7:28 pm

But the second one makes a monumental mistake like thinking for themselves their wrath is upon them.

Uninvited to the CPAC Chris Christie says, “What?”