Ethics and gamesmanship in the Ga. Legislature

“The nightmare scenario all along has been that the House passes a tough ethics bill, while the Senate passes a different but perhaps equally tough bill. In the final hours of the legislative session, the two chambers reluctantly pronounce themselves unable to come to agreement, which means that neither bill passes. Everybody gets to portray themselves as champions of reform, blaming failure on the other guy, while business as usual continues. A win-win outcome, except for the public.”

This is the expected outcome. The GOP has no shame and the Georgia Congress has even less. Oh well, on to the next.

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If we put a circus tent over the state capitol, we could sell tickets and raise enough money to easily cover that Medicaid expansion.

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If we put a circus tent over the state capitol, we could sell tickets and raise enough money to easily cover that Medicaid expansion. – See more at: http://blogs.ajc.com/jay-bookman-blog/2013/03/01/ethics-and-gamesmanship-in-the-ga-legislature/?cp=1#comment-1247668”

Or just paint the building to look like a clown car

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Oh my Gawwd, we went over the cliff, complete chaos reigns, planes are falling out of the sky, roads are crumbling, people are rummaging the trash cans for meals, looters are running wild and we have to declare marshall law and break out the militia all because the federal faucet has been tightened and jay wants to discuss ethics at the capital (is that a conundrum?).

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“then they need to be prepared for that to become law ” – a warning, a threat

“you’ll regret it” – not a threat

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…granted, I recognize that this is not only an issue you care about, but that you and Kyle and others have tried mightily to publicize, so the emotional investment is nontrivial.

Obviously, I do hope that they don’t slither out of this, as it appears they could do quite easily.

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Man, I hate when I get pre-empted with a good bit of righteous snark by the blog-host. Damn you Jay!

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Jay. You’ve posted some ugly, hateful stuff in the past, but…

The Legislature has the same ratio of saints to sinners as the population at large

That’s going to be hard to forgive.

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It is a good thing that our Reps are spending so much time trying to out-honest each other.
This leaves less time spent on legislating on who they’re going to pee-test next or who are they’re going to steal form next.
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Regardless, it’s a futile gesture.
Either one has morals or one dosn’t.
The answer is simple, it being
FULL DISCLOSURE and an easy way to access this info. …and vote accordingly.
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“I had taken a course in Ethics. I read a thick textbook, heard the class discussions and came out of it saying I hadn’t learned a thing I didn’t know before about morals and what is right or wrong in human conduct.”
Carl Sandburg

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“Sequestration strikes early”

Now that was truly ugly. That man is DEAD and he died in a particularly horrible way. Pity you’re godless, otherwise I’d advise you to pray for forgiveness for making fun of a man’s death

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JAY

State governments are simply microcosms of our federal government…we are witnessing the efficacy of the latter…the ultimate statement of the fact that we simply are not a priority. None certainly respect our money…and the lies continue..

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/fact-checker/post/sequester-spin-the-threat-to-free-meals-for-seniors/2013/02/28/daed6ee2-8211-11e2-b99e-6baf4ebe42df_blog.html

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Regarding my last observation in my last post, look no further than Max at 7:27.

Shameful…

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Well Doggone, he is a godless heathen, so……

Georgia Legislators pimping their “ethics” again. Yawn.

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Thomas Heyward Jr

March 1st, 2013
7:39 am

Don’t forget the 1000 homes that won’t get retrofitted for energy efficiency according to whoever is puppet energy secretary..

“their shooting the cans! We have to save the cans! ” NAVIN JOHNSON (aka The Jerk)

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Geez, some people apparently can’t walk and chew gum at the same time!

SEQUESTERGHAZI!

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I see the ODS Crew have had their coffee this morning.

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oh, I see-the point of this comments thread is to deflecturbate to some topic you’d actually like to discuss. Lemme try my hand:

On Monday, it voted 164 to 4 in favor of House Bill 142

Kinda like how the vote went on re-authorizing the Voting Rights act just a few years ago. Senate went 98-0, House went 390-33. I guess they knew that the five sheet-wearing pricks on the SCOTUS would fix it for them in a reasonable amount of time.

…how’d I do?

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Actually…………there IS fourth option.
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Due to SEQUESTATION………..all Ethics Legislation will be postponed.

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Hi Doggone! Sometimes ugliness is all you have – and that’s sad.

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Godless, that covers the past four years. I know Obama is great and the GOP sucks.

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Can anyone tell me why the DEMs appear to be rooting for the worst case scenario outcomes of sequesters to prove a political point?

Not many of the revelation like BS appears to be considered possessing great validity…Don’t worry, who knows, some of it may come true.

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Jammie – Why don’t you and Jay get off your GOP hate wagon for a bit. Georgia’s, for that matter, the entire South’s reputation for ethics has been where it is long before the relatively recent rise of the GOP. The GOP is no more unethical than the Dems. Gerrymandering, payoffs, favoritism, etc have been rampant at the capital, the airport and in the city of Atlanta for as long as I can remember and if I remember correctly, a fair number of the mayors of this fine city have had a D next to their name. So please don’t give me the BS that the Dems are saints.

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“Dog: The man is missing”

The latest report said searches found no signs of life and even some of the equipment disappeared and cannot be retrieved.

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BOSCH!

Sweetie! How good to see you! How’s the family?

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godless

I don’t think smartass looks good on you. I see where you’re going with your posts, but I would just leave it alone if I were you. The best way to make someone look foolish is NOT to look like an ass yourself.

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“The best way to make someone look foolish is NOT to look like an ass yourself. – See more at: http://blogs.ajc.com/jay-bookman-blog/2013/03/01/ethics-and-gamesmanship-in-the-ga-legislature/?cp=1#comment-1247714”

Because you might end up making them look good by comparison

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a more famous version of the late Robert Novak.

Has Booby taken to stuffing himself into shiny vests?

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They call me MISTER JamVet.

March 1st, 2013
7:46 am

I strikes me that in addition to raging ODS, many (most?) of the cons also have USDS – Uncle Sam Derangement Syndrome…
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Will that keep me from owning a firearm?

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Jay

March 1st, 2013
7:51 am

Has he retracted the subject statements?

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Obama has become another Nixon!

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OMG!
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This sequestation is…………is………..it’s………(gulp)……….cosmetic facial surgery with a ………………CHAINSAW!
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What will these guys do?
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http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/02/26/you-are-still-barely-free_n_2769194.html?utm_hp_ref=the-agitator

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Well, looks to me like folks got loaded up on smarta$$ pills with their Wheaties this morning. So I’m going to do what I always do when a fight breaks out at Billy Bob’s: find a quiet corner and watch.

Have a Good Friday everybody.

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Madmax: ” The GOP is no more unethical than the Dems.”

Really? The same repubs who, when in the minority, complained about how the Dems abused the situation (items furnished by you) and then said things would be totally different when they became in charge. No Change. Same abuses…including tacking on a lie!

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Obama has become another Nixon!

This absurdity again, get real meat? I blew you up yesterday for posting it…

…when Tricky Dick had his “enemies list” submitted in evidence during the US Senate’s Watergate Committee trials.

At a minimum your inane, wildly misinformed comparison between Nixon’s infamous criminality and Obama’s non-criminality leads me to conclude that you were not paying much attention at all to current events while in HS. Or now.

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LAUGHABLE PHRASE OF THE YEAR

BOB WOODWARD MAY BECOME A RIGHT-WING CRANK

ONLY IN LIBERAL-LAND

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Road Scholar

March 1st, 2013
8:18 am

Wait until meals on wheels doesn’t suffer after all…this is pretty serious pickle for WH and others using scare tactics to avoid being adults about our financial situation…

I’m not much of a fan for GOP, but if/when the sky doesn’t fall they can easily pin this disingenuous pitch to the people for what it is..

Funny how the last 2 presidents who got second term didn’t fare so well in final 4 years…could this be a trend.

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Thomas Heyward Jr

March 1st, 2013
8:22 am

Can one submit for unemployment benefits before the fact?

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“while business as usual continues.”

Which is what’s probably going to happen. I’m not holding my breath on a cap/ban on lobbyest gifts.

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BTW, when I refer to BHO’s non-criminality I am referring only to his not having Nixonesque “hit lists” aimed at his “enemies”, who he targeted for tax audits or trailed by private detectives, among other notorious measures.

BSNBC/Get Real has ZERO idea what he is talking about when he makes the comparison…

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OF ALL THE MEDIA OUT THERE

BOB WOODWARD IS ONE OF THE LAST WHO DOES NOT INTERJECT PERSONAL BIAS INTO HIS REPORTING

SO NOW BOTH SIDES ATTACK HIM WHENEVER HE REPORTS SOMETHING AGAINST THEIR SIDE THAT THEY DON’T LIKE

BUT PRAISE HIM WHEN HE REPORTS SOMETHING THAT MAKES THE OTHER SIDE LOOK BAD

SHAME
SHAME
SHAME

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southpaw, you did not answer a very simple question.

Why not? (which is a second question!)

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4th Estate… excuse the misspell….

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“Its funny how you get all riled up about what goes on in the Statehouse – See more at: http://blogs.ajc.com/jay-bookman-blog/2013/03/01/ethics-and-gamesmanship-in-the-ga-legislature/?cp=1#sthash.TwIGLG8P.dpuf”

Give it to Mikey. He’ll eat anything!

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ethics – politics / oil – water. not just in ga.. but we all know this..

that being said.. jay.. ive been reading up on dr. nicolelis.. that is awesome..

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SR

Obama imo is a mediocre President and I have said as much several times.

With that said for a “non believer”(I’m not a “believer” either), you sure seem to do a lot of praying and hoping for the man’s downfall.

The irony to me is rather amusing, but do carry on.

Peace

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As for the GA legislature. Not holding my breath, but do hope they come up with some sort of reform.

The Democrat good ole boys of yesterday have been replaced by the Republican new ole boys of today. Some are the same politicians, so why would the voters think much was going to change?

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DannyX

March 1st, 2013
8:26 am

Pretzel logic my friend. I’m not standing with GOP as much as faulting the tactics BO chose to push himself and with his cabinet puppetry.

They all suck in my book but I’m actually taking sides of tax payers presently.

Great quote..

“The worst-case scenario for us,” a leading anti-budget-cuts lobbyist told The Post, “is the sequester hits and nothing bad really happens.”

Think about that. Worst case? That a government drowning in debt should cut back by 2.2 percent — and the country survives. That a government now borrowing 35 cents of every dollar it spends reduces that borrowing by two cents “and nothing bad really happens.” Oh, the humanity!

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Danny X I imagine we will hear a lot of these guys telling us they were not fans of the losing side in the years to come. Like they tell the illegals they were not against them after they wanted to lynch a few in the South Carolina primary, or gay marriage and now want to make the record straight they weren’t throwing red meat in the Fla. primary.

It is like a bully abusive husband the morning after wanting to forget the whole matter as the wife sits with her black eye. You were a bully then and you are a bully now, who are selfish and want your way or the highway. Well buster the road is open keep moving.

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Jam Vet
After further review, yes, I do need to say more. I didn’t answer your second question, “Why not?”

The answer is:
I figured I had.

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stands for decibels – Private Pyle has a full magazine that is locked and loaded

March 1st, 2013
8:32 am

Brilliant..

One spent most of his time defending against impeachment for taking advantage of a young woman in the WH (which appears to by OK with lefties) And the other well not need to document the metrics of his poor second term..

Both will be remembered more for failures and shortcomings than success. Defending Clinton (who I like in retrospect despite poor personal decisions..only one of which was admitted) is easy now but he will show up in history as one of the few presidents to get impeached..Bush won’t fare much better.

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SR

And as I said yesterday, the Woodward story will be gone this time next week. Folks like you will be on to the next “got ya Mr President” projection then come up with excused when the projection doesn’t play out…

I’m sure you have only seen this play out time after time in the last four years, but do carry on.

Your posts at times can be thought provoking and at others the same tired right leaning diatribes that can be heard or read being spewed on tv, radio or read on theblaze, wnd, dailycaller, etc.

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More fun facts from the Kraut..

A 2011 Government Accountability Office report gave a sampling of the vastness of what could be cut, consolidated and rationalized in Washington: 44 overlapping job training programs, 18 for nutrition assistance, 82 (!) on teacher quality, 56 dealing with financial literacy, more than 20 for homelessness, etc. Total annual cost: $100 billion-$200 billion, about two to five times the entire domestic sequester..

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One spent most of his time defending against impeachment

I’m sorry your memory is so faulty.

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Jay,

Personally I could care less about perceived threats to journalists, but what about the Lannie Davis assertions? Are they BS as well?

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“Happy Sequestration everybody!. Watch for those airliners falling out of the sky.”

Don’t forget the cadavers you could trip over!

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and if you bothered to follow my directions, you’d realize that not only did Clinton outperform GW Bush, but he did a lot better than the second-term polling average. Include Reagan on the chart and it will become even clearer just how well regarded he was.

but yeah. He spent the most of his second term “defending against impeachment.” riiiight.

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stands for decibels – Private Pyle has a full magazine that is locked and loaded

March 1st, 2013
8:44 am

I guess I am wrong about the time away from governing that took place resulting from scandal.

Please accept my heartfelt apologies for my memory handicap..can I get one of those blue parking passes for my disability?

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stands for decibels – Private Pyle has a full magazine that is locked and loaded

March 1st, 2013
8:46 am

Of course he outperformed BUSH…pretty low bar. Both will have legacies that may be more defined by shortcomings….impeachment is a pretty big deal. He did somewhat perjure himself…

For the record, I can think of more capable pied pipers to bow to…no offense.

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This whole Woodward fiasco points out something that is far more important than Mr. Woodward’s “threat”. For years, Woodward was a liberal darling, brought down Nixon, growing old as a liberal, professor emeritus of the gang, books and movies about him…….. However, just one reference to something against the Bozo gang and he is all of a sudden over the hill, aging into a wingnut, has no credibility, makes statements that enhance his whatever, no further access to anything from the WH, old friends warn him of his “mistakes” that he will “regret”making statements like this. Does this not once again prove beyond doubt that ANYONE who states that the Bozo gang is on the wrong track will be demonized, vilified and drawn and quartered, no matter what their history and affiliation. Take no prisoners and if a prisoner survives, make him out to be some kind of crazy nutcase who has no credibility. One day Woodward is a liberal saint emeritus….. the next day he is a hack. You figure it out.

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GT….. For the record… While I am a conservative, I don’t condone looking the other way when it comes to ethics or gamesmanship….. It would be nice if more liberal observers could state/achieve their positions/goals, without looking “the other way” when deceptive, illegal and unconstitutional practices are used to achieve their objectives.

That is the only cure for what ills this country… Not me getting 100% of my position, or you getting yours…… A great deal of integrity must be restored to the process… Unfortunately our POTUS and his adminstration campaigned on that, but have not delivered…. Meanwhile Mr. Bookman and his ilk look the other way because “their guy” holds the office of POTUS and they are afraid to speak to power…. Afraid their access will be cut off… (I know… Jay has no access… But he gets his talking points from people in media who do….).

Its that simple……

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one other thing:

Of course he outperformed BUSH…

…which is why I added, “he did a lot better than the second-term polling average”. but I didn’t describe how I cam to that conclusion, and I realize it might not have been self evident. The Gallup chart includes this information as a dotted line. Look at it and you’ll see that yes, throughout post-WWII presidential history, all presidents have tended to have a rougher go of it in their second terms.

But Clinton didn’t, not judged by this metric–he distinctly over performed.

/drive-by

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Speaking of ethics……………………………meet Obama’s new Treasury Secretary————to replace the Tax-cheat————————–
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In June 2006, Lew was named chief operating officer of CITIGROUP’S Alternative Investments unit, a proprietary trading group. The unit he oversaw invested in a hedge fund “that bet on the HOUSING market to COLLASPE..” During his work at Citigroup, Lew had invested heavily in funds in Ugland House while he worked as an investment banker at Citigroup during the 2008 FINANCIAL MELTDOWN.. Lew also had oversight of Citigroup subsidiaries in countries including, Bermuda, the CAYMAN Islands, and Hong Kong; and during his time at Citigroup, Citigroup subsidiaries in the CAYMAN Islands increased to 500 percent.

Lew co-chaired the Advisory Board for City Year New York.[25] He is a member of the Council on Foreign Relations, the Brookings Institution Hamilton Project Advisory Board, and the National Academy of Social Insurance.[26] Lew is also a member of the bar in Massachusetts and the District of Columbia.[27]
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sheeeeeeeesh

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I’m growing concerned that Uncle Samantha doesn’t know how to undo his/her “Cap Lock” key…

but technology never has been a bastion on the Right…

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Bosch!

Great to see you back…you may remember me…I was the last “normal” guy here…

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Hi ya Normal! Been staying away from those ladders? I’m trying to get my liberal bonafides back. Hate to eat and run, but I’ll check back after lunch!

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“The Legislature has the same ratio of saints to sinners as the population at large, which is another way of saying that beneath the Gold Dome, no saints walk.”

I wish that was true, Jay, but I think the Georgia Legislature attracts the most venal and corrupt among us, with a meager few exceptions. These folks don’t run for office for the salary, which is among the lowest in the U.S. and should be raised to something reasonable. They run to line their pockets and those of their cronies. That is the major reason Georgia is sliding into Third World status.. There are few if any true public servants, or people showing the slightest interest in moving the state forward. They spend all their time posturing and trying to fool the electorate, while seizing every possible opportunity for self-enrichment.

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“OK one more: Is it doomsday yet?”

Well, almost around here. Layed off teachers, cops, and firefighters have been rioting and looting pretty much all morning. Fortunately an airliner fell from the sky scattering them, at least for the time being.

Rumor has it former meat inspectors are sharpening their cleavers to do some serious “inspecting” later today, so things could get dicey.

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Bozo’s and Bookman’s lame predictions will point out how ridiculous this whole fiasco has become. Both of them will look pretty foolish when none of this comes true.

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The board filed the lawsuit for declaratory judgment in Calhoun County Circuit Court against Consolidated Publishing Co., which owns The Star. Since RMC purchased Jacksonville Medical Center in December, The Star has requested the purchase price and other contract details under the state’s open records law, but has not filed any legal action.

http://www.annistonstar.com/view/full_story/21834790/article-RMC-files-lawsuit-to-block-The-Star%E2%80%99s-open-records-request?instance=home_lead_story

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From AJC Visitor Agreement:

” You also agree that we, and ANYONE AUTHORIZED BY US, may identify you as the author of any of your postings by name, email address or screen name, as we or they deem appropriate.” (Emphasis/CAPS added.)

No more anonymity. This is a real disincentive for open, vigorous debate and criticism of the status quo and the folks in power, who might, just might, take offense.
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Whenever one wants to study about ethics reform and such………one should always refer to Chicago……………………not.
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lol

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Or Detroit.
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If only Georgia ……………….

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Doggone — “There never was any real anonymity. They could always identify your IP address and give it to the authorities if, for instance, you made a threat against someone”

Dynamic IP addressing somewhat mitigates that; most ISPs allocate users new IP addies at each logon.

Plus, there have been a number of cases in which it has been conclusively proven that IP addies are not a foolproof method of determining responsibility in computer crime cases. There have been at least two cases in the US that I know of in which a culprit downloaded kiddie pr0n thru a neighbor’s unsecured wireless network and successfully covered their tracks to the point where the owner of the unsecured wifi was arrested and tried. Fortunately for the accused, computer experts were able to find the *actual* offenders.

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No more anonymity. This is a real disincentive for open, vigorous debate and criticism of the status quo and the folks in power, who might, just might, take offense

Oh no, the AJC now has black ops helicopters and they are hovering above your neighborhood. If they drop a gossip columnists, hit the shelters!

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Oswald shot Kennedy.

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A coke or cup of coffee, thats all one should accept. Anything else is ying for yang.

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Duper — “Oswald shot Kennedy.”

What about this photographic evidence?

http://scienceblogs.com/tfk/2008/11/24/the-oswald-bands-last-show/

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I should have ended my 9:45 with “in politics”

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To hell with the zombie apocalypse

The Zombie apocalypse is REAL.

You’d better recognize……………….

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@Tax Payer I would not say “its all Obama’s fault”…. I would say he has to invest more time in working with Congress vs. spending time going around the country fear mongering….

Part of negotiating, is getting to know the people at the table on your side and on the opposite side….. The President does not seem to be interested in getting to know those people or their POV… Its a missed opportunity to be the transformational (in a forward moving, positive way) President he desires to be….

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southpaw the proof ,as they say is in the pudding. Georgia is at the bottom of everything. Not only is the lack of ethical behavior a fat slope’s game, it is a loser’s game too. If you can show me one speck of evidence that this state has benefited from it I too will be a fat sloppy unethical selfish oblique bully. Who knew having selfish shallow fun could help anyone but myself.

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Brosephus — “That sounds about right for at least a quarter of the posts here. Sad thing is, it’s probably only 3-4 people doing it, but they’re doing it repeatedly. To hell with the zombie apocalypse, the CDC should have put out a warning about the ODS apocalypse.”

Are you familiar with the memetics, the theory of memes as ‘thought viruses?’ Its ‘proponents’ point out that memes have many of the same criteria as actual infectious virii.

They self-replicate, they mutate/evolve over the course of generations, they’re transmissible from person to person, some persons show resistance to certain invidiual memes and in extreme cases, individuals can become so consumed with a meme’s central idea that they lose all sense of self-preservation and die (e.g. kamikazes, suicide bombers, nutso cult members).

Some years ago, Laurie Anderson released a song called Language is a Virus (From Outer Space) that touched on the same theory.

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“People who believe such campaign rhetoric show they are completely clueless to how DC actually operates – See more at: http://blogs.ajc.com/jay-bookman-blog/2013/03/01/ethics-and-gamesmanship-in-the-ga-legislature/?cp=2#comment-1247815”

Amen to that! I never pay much attention to politicians when they make claims to doing something I know perfectly well they wont have the power to do. Of course, if those are the ONLY kind of claims they make…that does have some influence on my ability to believe them!

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JHM

Haven’t heard about that. Sounds like some good reading for me. Thanks for the info.

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Doggone

I’m the same way. I don’t put much stock in what politicians promise. I’m more concerned with the people they surround themselves with. You can get a good idea of what you’re going to get based on the advisor circle. There’s nobody that has the physical knowledge to deal with every aspect of running this country without assistance from advisors.

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If you want laughs,just read Jay’s column’s comments.It just keeps getting better and better. There are a whole lot more than “Three Stooges” out there. We are all insane!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Enough of this Sequestionally Ethicatrel Doom-n-Gloom .
Herein lies some good news—————

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This just in from the Associate Press——————
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“In Kenya, half brother to Obama runs for governor ”
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Malik Obama – a half-brother of Barack Obama – is running for a governor’s position in the country’s nationwide elections on Monday, though he said he’s not sure what impact his relationship to the American president has on his campaign.
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The president’s relative even invokes the message that Barack Obama leaned on during his groundbreaking 2008 political campaign: Change. Malik Obama says his platform is poverty eradication, infrastructure development and industrialization.
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Obama is competing against candidates who are from well-funded parties, and the political newcomer may be in need of campaign cash. He asked an AP Television News freelance cameraman to contribute to his campaign. No contribution was given. Obama said he was asking for the individual to contribute, not for AP to contribute.
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That last paragraph was funny.
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kayaker 71 your crowd defended Nixon for crying out loud. And in that case Woodward was right by a preponderance of evidence. You people like being dirty, that is what keeps your message as you put it in the closet. The country doesn’t like unethical crooks, Georgia being an exception, mainly because they believe the lies. When you stop the ships at sea like Watergate did for the entire world to see how unethical our country’s right wing Republican leadership had become you got my full attention. When our president has declared war on the American people and all free people of this world, come see me. As of now the criminal record is on you, your president would have been the first to go to prison if your other president had not pardoned him. Damn near got a taste of the BOP first hand, might of done this country some good to see one of these unethical bullies go to prison, would have brought your unethical way back to reality. Nope instead the southern strategy invited by Harold Dent at the request of Nixon is still alive as well and the weak are bullied by the same DNA that controlled Nixon who found his political life renewed in the south.

The Supreme Court should visit this in this view while the rule on the voter’s rights act. You have sex perverts running the elementary school when you allow bigots from the right to run elections.

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“Some years ago, Laurie Anderson released a song called ‘Language
is a Virus (From Outer Space)’ that touched on the same theory.”

Yes, and an entire song cannot be wrong.

This is a repeatable scientific theorem.
I submit -
“I like big butts and I cannot lie….”

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If any such bill is actuall passed, you may be sure it will have loopholes big enough to drive a Mack truck thru.

Anyone who honestly thinks the Georgia Legislature will pass a fair and honest ethics bill is gullible beyond belief.

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MikeB 8:57—spot on..

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Bosch…. I agree with your Valerie Plame comment…. But playing the “tit for tat” game is not what I am about…..

Bullcrap, that is ALL you are about. Why do you folks act like your words AREN’T here for us all to see? Let’s go back……… Let’s go WAY back…….. all the way to your first post today………..

MikeB

March 1st, 2013
8:28 am
(speaking to Jay) ………Its funny how you get all riled up about what goes on in the Statehouse, but you completley condone, aid and contribute to the lack of ethics and overload of gamesmaship at the Federal level……..

You started with insults and tit for tat and then say that’s not what you are about? Really? You must be a regular on lil Kyle the liars board………….

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SSI — “This is a repeatable scientific theorem. I submit -
“I like big butts and I cannot lie….”

And now for some CULTURE.

magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
(Large buttocks are pleasing to me, nor am I able to lie concerning this matter.)
quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur,
(For who, colleagues, would not admit,)
cum puella incedit minore medio corpore
(Whenever a girl comes by with a rather small middle part of the body)
sub quo manifestus globus, inflammare animos
(Beneath which is an obvious spherical mass, that it inflames the spirits)
virtute praestare ut velitis, notantes bracas eius
(So that you want to be conspicuous for manly virtue, noticing her breeches)
clunibus profunde fartas(*1) esse [--his footnotes are added below after the second translation--]
(Have been deeply stuffed with buttock?)
a! captus sum, nec desinere intueri possum.
(Alas! I am captured, nor am I able to desist from gazing.)
o dominola mea, volo tecum congredi
(My dear lady, I want to come together with you)
pingereque picturam tui.
(And make a picture of you.)
familiares mei me monebant
(My companions were trying to warn me)
sed clunes istae libidinem in me concitant.
(But those buttocks of yours arouse lust in me.)

http://benedictseraphim.wordpress.com/2004/12/06/first-there-was-sir-mixalot-then-latin-got-hold-of-im/

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” In the final hours of the legislative session, the two chambers reluctantly pronounce themselves unable to come to agreement, which means that neither bill passes. Everybody gets to portray themselves as champions of reform, blaming failure on the other guy, while business as usual continues.”

For once, Georgia’s politicians and Georgia’s citizens are saying the same thing; “How did we ever come to this?”

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JHM

Thanks for that bit of culture. Bookmarked it!!!!

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DDR: Your screen name is incomplete. You are missing a boa. It SHOULD say ebbieDoRight – Going Over The Fiscal Cliff In A Barrel, With High Heels and a Boa On.

That is all. Carry on.

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LOL too funny. I had a colon too close to the D and it gave you a smiley face name………

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Am I lying Fred… Do you condone the lack of ethics and the amount of gamesmanship at the Federal level? Be real……Just because its the one you voted for doing it, it does not make it right. Thats what I was saying. I’m not perfect and certainly not a professional blogger/post tracker like some here….

Hope folks can get past the rhetoric that allows politicians to screw us 6 ways from Sunday…. Time for our govt. to stop screwing people who do the right thing when NOBODY is looking is where I’m at….

Ok… Have a great one….

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quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur,
(For who, colleagues, would not admit,)

Wow! Only Joe can come up with stuff like that!

Hey, so how do you say, “L.A. face with an Oakland Booty” in “cultured” tones?

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RB

From a personal standpoint, I hope you do well with your business

With that said, how much revenue did you generate by posting your diatribe @ 10:25?

Put some more irony on that bagel. After all, it is the new cream cheese.

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What Woodward tried to tell folks is that it is Obama that keeps moving the goal posts. Obama doesn’t want compromise, he wants chaos. It is a shell game he is playing. That way the target is always moving. The Repubs cave and give Obama what he wants, then Obama demands more. There will NEVER be compromise because Obama is changing the rules as he goes along. This administration is pushing for these cuts to happen on purpose, and will blame the Repubs when disaster hits. David Gergan explained it perfectly last night. Obama’s plan is to continue moving the goal posts and blame Repubs. This is a game for Obama. Make folks suffer, then ride in on his white horse and claim to save everyone by increasing taxes and nationalizing healthcare for all.

Welcome to Communism comrades. It is too bad that Jay doesn’t have the ‘nads or knowlege to explain the truth to his minions.

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D. DoRight — “Wow! Only Joe can come up with stuff like that!”

I must point out that I’m not the author, but I do recognize quality when I see it.

“Hey, so how do you say, “L.A. face with an Oakland Booty” in “cultured” tones?”

My Latin’s quite rusty and my grammar’s terrible (the first Mrs. JHM was far better than I am), but possibly something in the neighborhood of “un faciem L.A. cum clunes Oaklandium/Oaklandibus” (a face of LA with booty of Oakland).?

Hey, the Catholic Church is doing a lot of outreach these days; maybe a local priest could help you out with that?

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How much revenue do you think I’ll be able to generate for my business while I’m on Bookman’s blog beeotching about how much work I have to do?

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pete

Yes…uh-huh we are definately on the path to communism, brilliant synopsis of how we are going to get there. Maybe then we could get 300 mph bullet trains like china!!!

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Believe Fred got up on wrong side today.

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“With that said, how much revenue did you generate by posting your diatribe @ 10:25? – See more at: http://blogs.ajc.com/jay-bookman-blog/2013/03/01/ethics-and-gamesmanship-in-the-ga-legislature/?cp=3#sthash.4X9RbvfU.dpuf”

None. But I guess you and clown Brocephus think business owners should just happily comply with all this crap, don’t say anything about it, and be happy. You would be wrong.

BTW, I tried to call the department who sent me this crap to ask a question about it. They said their computers are down so they can’t help me with anything and then hung up on me. Do you suppose if I toss their effing paperwork in the trash can instead of spending more of my time calling them back they’ll waive those fines they say they’ll charge me for not doing this crap?

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the Catholic Church is doing a lot of outreach these days

And the Vatican’s prayer-writing team isn’t doing much of late, so…

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Sounds like the plan all along…What a shamless bunch of “public servants” we’ve given power to!

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Believe Fred got up on wrong side today.

Why/ Because I point out lies and expect truth? that’s the side of the bed I get out of everyday Mr. Mystery Meat.

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LOL dB, you ALMOST got me. It’s funny how often I look at the material first and the source second. I wonder if I could get a job writing there. THAT would be fun:

“After sitting with his team of writers for approximately seven minutes and warmly reminiscing about a certain humorously botched sermon from 2009,……..”

I wonder how much wacky weed they go through a week

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But I guess you and clown Brocephus think business owners should just happily comply with all this crap, don’t say anything about it, and be happy. You would be wrong.

Life is full of choices, RB. Don’t whine to us about the reprecussions of the choices that YOU made for YOURSELF. I don’t wanna hear it, and it seems as though others may think the same way. How hard is that for you to understand?

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RB

I’ll also state that I wish you no ill will and success in your business. My point is that, people like you preach the “pull yourself up by your bootstraps” stuff but never live by your own words. If/When I decide to go into business for myself, I have to live with that decision. Right now, I don’t have the time to put into such an endeavor.

We all choose what we want to do. If you made the wrong choice, you can always change directions. Whining won’t accomplish anything other than pissing those off who might otherwise be sympathetic and/or empathetic towards your issue.

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Actually for that election one of the biggest turnouts in the last few decades of state elections, the percentage was 47.8%. But the average percent is in the 30s.

When you have a black man running for anything Freddy you have a lot of white enthusiasm in this state, people come off the golf courses to vote. But in the one party system we have on most election days you know you are safe so you keep playing golf or whatever else you do. What percent of the total population did Newt get maybe 10% but he is worshiped by most in this confusion of voting against black people. What is different from here and old Russia except those people were made to stay home here we choice to not participate.

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Dear pete: Obama didn’t get elected because people want free stuff, he got elected because YOUR IDEAS AND PHILOSOPHY SUCK.

Get over it hate monger. Your irrational fear and hate are not serving you well get rid of them.

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Fred,

Stay ignorant, it fits you well.

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“Obama was the first elected president with over 50% of the vote twice in decades.”

what a silly stat…39 of the last 47 had over 50%

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make that 29 of the last 47

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Who was it yesterday that pointed out that Mr. 47% of the Country are moochers Romney, in fact received 47% of the vote?

We see who the moocher are pete

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Damn GT, me and you ran them all off……….. do you think we need to bathe?

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RB,

You’ll get no sympathy here from the big-guv lefties who populate this board, as you can see.

In leftie world, the harder it is to do business, the better they like it. Taxes, regulations, permits, etc., are all a part of commerce in an advanced civilization, of course. But they enjoy carrying all that to the extreme, then revel in a businessman’s agony as he attempts to comply.

Complain about it? Then you’re the problem, they say.

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What business do you own Sinkie? None? Why then shut the hell up while those of us who DO own businesses speak.

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Is this a teddy dealo? Why would you throw this in jail?

http://www.cafepress.com/+dealeo+teddy_bears

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when being self employed I didn’t get a sense of overwhelming paper work, but I was the only employee so that likely makes a considerable difference

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In leftie world, the harder it is to do business, the better they like it

Do you pray to Jesus with that lying mouth of yours?

Seriously, why do so many schmucks imagine that “leftie world” loves, just to pick a few treasured beliefs, there are so many more — a) higher taxes, b) “bigger government”, c) more regs/hassles for businesses?

Hell’s bells, why do you think we want single-payer? Because we think it’d make businesses *less* competitive, less free to focus on what they actually do best?

And who wants to pay ANY taxes? if I thought we could get away with the richest, most powerful nation ever on earth just printing money and saying “it’s worth what we say it is because SHUT UP!”, and never collect a dime from *any* of our citizens in tax revenue, I’d say give it a shot.

Ya know, you might try actually getting to know a “leftie” before you lie like that, is all I’m sayin’.

/soapbox

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You are not going to find a black man with character in the GOP. You get the ones looking for an angle to use their race for a hired purpose.

A few years ago I would have taken you to task for that statement but not today. The Republican party has moved FAR away from being “conservative” to being the white scared man’s party.

Jay mentioned the log cabin Republicans yesterday and I researched them. Gay Republicans. Now why in the world would you want to be in a party that HATES you? I don’t get it. I’m not trying to join the Black Panthers or Radical Friends of Allah or MEChA.

There are MANY of us who are “conservative” who have no place in the Republican party. Those folks aren’t “conservative” they are total nut jobs. It’s crazy.

As much as I hate to agree with your statement I can’t disagree with it. Colin Powell left them. JC Watts left them. Any Black republican I have ever known or respected has left them……… there has to be a reason why right?

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I think one of the reasons bigotry has stayed so long in this country is we let them talk from a closed closet instead of debating the real disease they have and why they have it.

I think you start by saying Deal you hate black people and women and Jews, and the list goes on. And he says honestly I do. Then you have a debate, an honest debate. At the end there are no moochers just people, there are no liberals just people trying to survive this thing call life. We could actually help each other. Walking around with lies about things is not a good way to live.

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“So…basically, you don’t believe in CORPORATE RESPONSIBILITY??”

Non sequitur ALERT!

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Erwin’s Cat: what a silly stat…39 of the last 47 had over 50%

I think what the poster was trying to say is that Obama was the first president in decades to win his election AND re-election by capturing more than 50% of the popular vote in both elections. I think there have only been 4 in the last century that eclipsed 51% in both elections, which would include Obama.

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Bro – not since Reagan

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Fred I love the south, born here, my entire family line is southern from Savannah. I was raised by good people who were handicapped by a war fought years ago and made romantic by people like my mother, who will be 100 in April. I know why they hate but it wasn’t the fault of black men or women, who only wanted what all men want, to be free. My folks hated Yankees far more than they hated blacks and gays never even entered our vocabulary though they were around then just as they are now. And they had some right to hate Yankees a lot more than they did blacks who should hate us. But as we sort all this out all we do is let life go on without us which is my point in all of this.

We tore a nation up for our petty purpose and labeled it state rights like that would cover up immoral behavior. In doing so we killed a part of the country that could have been beautiful and useful to the rest of this great nation. All for the worship of hate, pure and simple.

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Bro? have you ever seen this? It became such a cult hit that when they filmed the X-men movie that had the Juggernaut in it, they used the line. Probably don’t want to watch where your little one can hear though………. youtube forced them to take it down and folks kept putting it back up. It is definitely a youtube classic

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bSuvOVH0aSQ

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President Reagan was the 1st to let the kid stay up late (you don’t have to pay taxes and I’ll throw a bone of the earned income credit for a passy), the 1st of the big spenders (just put it on the credit card) and the 1st of the brainwashers (gov’t is bad). A great parent.

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EC

I think it was originally put out as more than 51% in both elections, but I’d have to go google it to find out. There are 4 that meet that criteria, excluding Reagan as his first election was more than 50% but less than 51%.

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Fred

Yeah, I’ve seen that one. It’s a classic!!!!

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Colin Powell left them. JC Watts left them. Any Black republican I have ever known or respected has left them……… there has to be a reason why right?

[Long, deep breath, here.]

While I devoutly believe that individual bigotry, stupidity, etc. knows no creed or color, I do think that Black Americans have been subjected to more highly-targeted bullsh-t and cycles of betrayal than any other large, identifiable group (save perhaps native Americans).

Basically, I think they have been far more sinned against than ever sinning themselves–collectively–and as such, they are collectively more careful about who they place their trust in than most other Americans.

(I hope that doesn’t sound as stereotypical in print as it kinda seems to me, as I’m proofing it, right now, but I wanted to post that^^.)

To expand a bit–African Americans were promised real-life glory via liberation by the Republican party in the 19th century, and they doggedly supported the GOP for decades even after they’d been betrayed in more ways than they could shake a stick at. It took FDR/Truman’s baby steps toward, and finally LBJ’s legitimate embrace of, civil rights guarantees that they even had a shot at that glory.

Nearly all I see from today’s GOP are one roadblock after another designed to make life more difficult and dangerous for ordinary Americans, and easier/safer for our best-off. Why, pray tell, would a group that has been, historically, more economically disadvantaged than most any other (again, with the arguable exception of our Native people), ever put their trust in such an outfit today, in anything beyond a few percentage points?

This is one’s livelihood we’re talking about here, not some stylin’ looking facade, or a cynically crafted social-values wedge issue.

So, that’d be the reason why, I would wager.

/again-with-the-soapbox

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Obama may be the worst leader we’ve ever had in the White House. He’s on TV now lying about the effect of taking 85 billion from a 3.6 trillion dollar budget. Basically in his own words we can never cut any government spending of any kind. We have to increase spending forever and can never cut spending. The world wants America to get their financial house in order. These cuts were agreed to by Democrats already. Now, they won’t follow through. The president is literally on TV blaming Republicans for absolutely everything. He says we need to increase the minimum wage so it’s one that families can live on, sorry Mr. President, raising pay from $7/hr to $9/hr isn’t going to be high enough for families to live on. Nobody can raise a familiy on minimum wage. This is an example of a blatant lie. When will Obama own up? And watching Democrats support this garbage is amazing. He claims tax loopholes are the only way to fix the issue. It’s so funny, my liberal friends and co-workers for the past month have been bragging to me how great their accountants are and how they made out like bandits this tax season. Talk about hypocrisy.

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“In leftie world, the harder it is to do business, the better they like it. Taxes, regulations, permits, etc., are all a part of commerce in an advanced civilization, of course. But they enjoy carrying all that to the extreme, then revel in a businessman’s agony as he attempts to comply. ”

How about the righty world? Right here in Georgia.

Georgia Power has an army of lobbyists. Their lobbyists have struck gold. The new nuclear plants they are building are being paid for with a residential only surcharge, businesses aren’t contributing a dime. Residential customers are doing the job of investor but all the profits go to the company. All of the risk is on the residential customer. Guess who is paying for the huge cost overruns? Yep, the residential customers, by law. Guess who, also by law, is allowed to earn an 11% profit on the cost overruns? Yep, Georgia Power!

Funny how the other utility companies involved with the new power plants aren’t requiring their residential customers to do all the financing, if its such a good deal.

But of course its Obama who is the scary socialist/commie.

Georgia Power is laughing all the way to the bank as you cons scream BENGHAZI!

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Obama may be the worst leader we’ve ever had in the White House.

And yet, Romney still couldn’t defeat him.

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The difference between Georgia(all states actually) and DC is
just the dfference in t.v. time.

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brosephus

Thanks and congrats on the little one or as jerry seinfeld calls them our replacements! Glad that they give you that time so you can feel like a human being and tend to your family…

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You spew Main stream media and Obama propaganda lies…

Dittoheads say, “What?”

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“Georgia Power is laughing all the way to the bank as you cons scream BENGHAZI!”

Yup. Grandma is being forced to be a capital investor in a nuclear power plant for which she likely will not live long enough to receive any power, and if she does, instead of receiving dividends for her investment, she’ll be forced to pay FULL price for the power. Why do Georgia Republicans hate Grandma?

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“Anyone want to go out to lunch?”

Fred, if you open a restaurant (you mentioned earlier), please open one that cooks with Green Eggs!

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Fred, fair warning, you are beginning to unhinge, again, don’t want you dropped from the blog, deep breath…

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Brosephus™ -What is your major malfunction, numbnuts?

March 1st, 2013
11:53 am

If Federal workers do not like what is going on then they always have the CHOICE of finding a job in the private sector that better fits their skill set and pay demands.

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If Federal workers do not like what is going on then they always have the CHOICE of finding a job in the private sector that better fits their skill set and pay demands.

Oh yeah, dumbass, and where are they going to find these magical jobs right now?

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moonbat betty; I AM. I’m thinking of starting with 1 ex large and 2 larges. I plan on doing the steaks, burgers and wings on the eggs. I also want to offer ribs and pulled pork, but am not sure if I should as I don’t want to become a BBQ place. There are also some Brazilian dishes that would be good cooked on a wood fire or Egg.

LOL You figured out my first “secret.”

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they always have the CHOICE of finding a job in the private sector

There’s some of that winning, can-do spirit I expect from conservatives.

Let’s make things as crappy as possible for public servants so that we lose the best/brightest to the private sector.

Hey, better yet, why are we paying them ANYTHING? We could have people PAY THE GOVERNMENT to work for it. Imagine the kind of deficit reduction that’d produce.

Could you crunch some numbers and make a wee model for us for further study, td? I think you’ve got a winner here.

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Did Colin Powell and J.D. Watts join the (D) party?

No!

Both are still registered Republicans working within the GOP. Watts is recruiting minorities for the GOP.

http://www.politico.com/story/2013/02/new-groups-goal-groom-minorities-on-hill-87737.html?hp=l2

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Fred ™

March 1st, 2013
12:02 pm

td shows once again that he is incapable of independent thought as he now uses MY words. I’m not sure if I should be flattered that I’m his new puppeteer or chagrined to be in the same group as his other puppeteers, Sean, Herman, Rush, Glenn, FOX etal………….

Next thing you know he’ll call me a Baptist………..

I think I need a shower now.

This coming from the person that spews nothing but Obama propaganda day after day after day. LMFAO

I am more then happy to invite you to attend my Southern Baptist church, and sit right next to you in the pew, anytime that you would like to come.

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“moonbat betty; I AM”

Fred, that’s awesome! We have talked about doing it for years, but I have never been in the restaurant biz, and it scares the crap out of me.

I think it is a great idea. I can’t believe some hasn’t done it yet.

If it’s done right I think it would be a big hit.

Best of luck to you.

You will have a loyal customer here!

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pete – 11:01

Please furnish a list of all the things “moochers” are getting from Obama as, so, I have not gotten a thing.

Thank you.

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SHEETZ!

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This coming from the person that spews nothing but Obama propaganda day after day after day. LMFAO

I’ll call THAT lie as well. Show me an example of where I have spewed “Obama propaganda.”

Oh and LMFAO is a band little man. Here check it out:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KQ6zr6kCPj8

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Create your own like so many in the private sector has had to do the past 4 years?

What??? If they’ve been doing that, then why have you and other right wing dipsh*ts been whining about U6 unemployment and such? Seems as though you have no idea of what the hell you’re talking about. If I were you, I’d quit before I made a complete ass of myself, but we’ve already seen you have no such qualms.

If the Federal workers do not have a choice, like you stated, then there only other choice is to suck it up and take the days like a man (the same as most state workers did for the past 4 years) and stop whining about it every other day.

Have you seen a mass exodus of federal employees? What in the hell do you think they’re doing? Geez, talk about being stuck on stoopid.

You could also tell Obama to stop trying to make this little cut as painful as possible to you and come up with some other ways to cut the budget (like cutting out Obamacare).

And you can tell your GOP House Representatives to do their job and present appropriations bills to fund the government. If everybody’s so sold on GOP spending cuts, they should have no problem with making that case to the American people instead of whining about Obama and all things Obama such as you just did, right?

Keep on licking the ideology lollypop. Conservatives have a better chance at selling Bigfoot to the American public when compared to their current ideology.

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No worries Fred…. Maybe when you actually have that restaurant you will through your own experiences dealing with bureaucracy, come to understand what we attempting to share with you already know…..

Moral authority occurs when the talking out of both sides of the mouth stop….. Until then, what afflicts the federal govt. will trickle down to the states, and to the municipalities from there…. Sure the American way is to get “hands dirty” on the way up…. But once you get there…. Do you transform and change????? Obama said he would. If he did, it would have had an effect on the trickle down by now as well….

He didn’t and now he has to own it…. Again… Other more experienced policians knew to stay away from campaigning in that manner…. Should he get a pass from making those campaign statements about changing politics in D.C., transparency and bipartisanship?

Is that what you are sayin? If it is, than how can you complain about what goes on at the state level?

Its got nothing to do with party (I called out Bush for the Iraq war… The only benefit of it was it kept terrorists occupied over there), color of skin or a news source (I read/watch em all.. Call BS when I see it too..)

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Were you aware of these restrictions when the job was accepted? Then, shut up and quit whining about it!

You don’t find out about those restrictions until after the fact. Obviously, you did not read my entire post. I will be ok. I am not whining about anything. Mick asked a question, and I gave him an answer. So, you can’t take your shut up and do it yourself.

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Love your self rightious indignet tone there Fred….. Some how you may make it…. In spite of yourself…. Calling me what I am not, exposes who you are and what you stand for… Guess you figured if it worked for Obama it would work for you….. Hehehe…

Would wish you luck, but you are too brainwashed and immature to know what to do with it…. The definition of insanity applies to you, so I will beg off and terminate my involvement with you….

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You are not going to find a black man with character in the GOP.

I disagree.

Granted they have some flaming losers like West, Cain and Keyes.

But they also have Watts and Powell. And to some lesser extent, Steele and Elder

Bright guys who at least recognize that their ultra-xenophobic, reactionary party has HUGE problems and are trying to contain the contagion from within….

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