Yawn … yet another budget crisis looms

“I think two terms is all a man or woman could handle because of the stress of the job. – See more at: http://blogs.ajc.com/jay-bookman-blog/2013/02/28/yawn-yet-another-budget-crisis-looms/?cp=5#comment-1246515”

then they don’t have to run for re-election, do they?

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frog,

He did not have to deal with corporate media or a unhinged gop.

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Get Real
February 28th, 2013
9:32 am
Obama already has gotten his revenue Jay, now is the time for “real cuts”. BTW, I believe the public is finely wising up to the Campaigner-in-Chief especially with all the theatrical scare tactics that have been going on over the last 2-3 weeks… the well is running dry on public stupidity which is bad for your pal Obama
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And you got your cuts! The GOP ran political ads stating that the President cut 700+ billion from Medicare. They wouldn’t lie would they?

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Sorry for trying to keep our country for going over a cliff.

RIIIIIGHT!

So says the rubes who voted for George “This sucker could go down!” Bush.

Too damn funny.

I’m just not sure if it is longstanding dementia or early Alzheimer’s…

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getalife
history of FDR will tell you that things are actually much better now.

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MORE CHICAGO THUGGERY !

Jay ……….. you had better have Luckovich check into this ……… somethings up !!

“A day after The Washington Post’s Bob Woodward insisted he was “threatened” by a senior White House official, a former Clinton aide turned columnist says his publication was once threatened by the Obama White House as well.

Lanny Davis, formerly a special counsel to President Bill Clinton, told WMAL’s Brian Wilson and Larry O’Connor that a White House official once threatened to have The Washington Times’ White House credentials revoked over columns Davis had written.

Davis says his editor “received a phone call from a senior Obama White House official who didn’t like some of my columns, even though I’m a supporter of Obama. I couldn’t imagine why this call was made.”

http://dailycaller.com/2013/02/28/former-clinton-aide-turned-columnist-says-white-house-threatened-his-publication-too-audio/

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he visibly aged greatly

I guess I never realized he was only 63 when he died. Dang.

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And never mind that he visibly aged greatly, and died early in his 4th term.

And about gave away the farm at Yalta.

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““Straight” married men do not molest boys. Bisexual or mostly gay ones do if their “orientation” is children.

“There is so much wrong with that ^^^ I don’t know where to begin…”

Start with the fact that it is untrue and go from there.

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YAWN …. more lies from the Obama administration about cutting the deficit when all they do is EXPAND the deficit and the spending. Jay is going to yawn all the way over the CLIFF until he hits bottom – then MAYBE – just MAYBE he will realize that he has been betting on the wrong pony.

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Look before I leap
I grew up in Tennessee where they had succession limits
for governor and where placeholders served often.
The founding fathers were highly conscious of power abuse
and chose to allow the people to decide who the office
holders would be at each election.

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“My reasons:
1. Limit the fear factor that comes from constantly trying to get re-elected. Free the members up to actually get something done. If you know your time is limited, you may be likely to try and get more done in the time you have. Think “bucket list” Legacies should not be based on longevity.”

Or you can sit back on your ass, knowing that unless you break the law or something equally seriously, you’ve got a cushy job and paycheck for the rest of your term. Gives you the time and leisure to find a cushy job to go to once you’re out offfice

“2. Limit the decay that sets in and the entrenchment of ideological leadership that promotes centralization and establishment of power bases that come with mutual political hand-jobs.
I grew up in DC – both my parents were hip-deep in the machinations that constitute federal politics. It is (to my way of thinking) a fetid arena surrounded by well lit marble monuments. Stay around too long and one begins to stink.
I don’t think the founding fathers envisioned the concept of career politicians. They thought folks would come in, do the job, serve the republic and move onto something else.
– See more at: http://blogs.ajc.com/jay-bookman-blog/2013/02/28/yawn-yet-another-budget-crisis-looms/?cp=6#sthash.7ROQsJwR.dpuf”

Considering that some of the Founding Fathers envisioned Washington being a President for LIfe, I think it’s safe to say they knew all they needed to know about career politicians.

I’m adamantly against term limits because it’s “throwing the baby out with the bathwater” – you are forcing the good ones to leave, as well as the bad ones.

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“Because that’s part of his regular routine. From what I can tell, he prefers to misrepresent the positions and arguments of others rather than asking them to clarify themselves. I personally believe that it belies a central lack of honesty on his part.”

LOL. That is part of ALL or our “regular routine” – it’s called jumping to conclusions. I will admit I do that – who wouldn’t? And most of us here are operating to some extent upon impressions formed over time (just as you are in the above quoted post). I told Brosephus exactly why I took him for a liberal rather than an independent as he claimed. He admitted to being left-leaning (which is fine though I am not sure how left you can be and still be an “independent”) and explained his (to me) puzzling “defense” of the president at times. And most of us are blind to some extent to out own hypocrisy and failings – which is a lack of honesty – you included.

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Obama is getting a lot like Nixon now!

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“I’m adamantly against term limits because it’s “throwing the baby out with the bathwater” – you are forcing the good ones to leave, as well as the bad ones.”

How do you feel about the (now rescinded) ability of states to “recall” (replace) Senators in mid term? Or is there any other mechanism besides our vote you would be comfortable with as a means of getting of bad and keeping the good?

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Towncrier — “LOL. That is part of ALL or our “regular routine” – it’s called jumping to conclusions. I will admit I do that – who wouldn’t?”

You don’t just jump to conclusions. You *insist* that your misunderstanding is correct. And I have *never* seen you ask for clarification on a point, *even when you are directly TOLD* that you’ve missed someone’s point.

“And most of us here are operating to some extent upon impressions formed over time (just as you are in the above quoted post). I told Brosephus exactly why I took him for a liberal rather than an independent as he claimed.”

That’s fine; I have no quarrel with that.

“He admitted to being left-leaning (which is fine though I am not sure how left you can be and still be an “independent”) and explained his (to me) puzzling “defense” of the president at times.”

Whether his ‘defense’ is puzzling to you or not is irrelevant. It’s not necessary for *you* to understand *his* reasoning and motivations.

“And most of us are blind to some extent to out own hypocrisy and failings – which is a lack of honesty – you included.”

I’ve never been anything but honest here and I challenge you to prove otherwise.

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0311/8541/5811/1811/1801

February 28th, 2013
12:53 pm

Yup….Woodward is posing a credible, non partsan, and meaningful challenge to BO…Without challenge, what do we really know eh?

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“I’m adamantly against term limits because it’s “throwing the baby out with the bathwater” – you are forcing the good ones to leave, as well as the bad ones. – ”

Perhaps, but color me cynical, term limits would force the good ones out before they turn into the bad ones. The amount of power and money concentrated in DC is so corrosive, it can tarnish even the saintliest of souls.

5 more minutes on the Death Star and even Luke Skywalker would have turned to the Dark Side.

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“Denied. Once again, I’ll treat you the way you treat me. If you can’t play nicely and you don’t want to be addressed rudely by me, then I suggest you take a hike, shave off the rough edges and thorns you came in here with, and then return to give things another try.”

Fail. If it can be shown just once (which would be easy given the expansive blog record) that you acted uncivilly without provocation, your premise would be invalidated and claim shown to be hypocritical. This “you did it first!” defense of your behavior shows 1) you fail to see and acknowledge your own bad behavior and 2) you are a hypocrite. It’s almost amusing how you lecture me on civility when you yourself are often uncivil without any provocation. Do yourself a favor and try to deny this or I may be compelled to prove you wrong in a very big way.

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“just MAYBE he will realize that he has been betting on the wrong pony.”

Cons are like Christians. Their goal in life is to convert everyone.

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“1) you fail to see and acknowledge your own bad behavior and 2) you are a hypocrite. -”

Regardless of Bro’s position or alleged attacks on you, give credit where credit is due. He posts here under only 1 name.

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Towncrier — “Fail.”

Rejected.

“If it can be shown just once (which would be easy given the expansive blog record) that you acted uncivilly without provocation, your premise would be invalidated and claim shown to be hypocritical.”

You just don’t get it, TC. You’re completely missing the point.

“This “you did it first!” defense of your behavior”

This is what you fail to understand. I’m not *defending* my behavior. I’m *explaining* it. If you don’t like it, too effing bad.

“shows 1) you fail to see and acknowledge your own bad behavior”

Denied. In fact, I freely acknowledge and and I tell you now that I’ll do it again if I see fit.

“and 2) you are a hypocrite.”

Impossible, given that I have made no promise of uninterrupted politeness. You really *are* quite bad at this, TC.

“It’s almost amusing how you lecture me on civility when you yourself are often uncivil without any provocation.”

Once again, young man, other people aren’t under any obligation to use your yardstick. *You* don’t get to determine what *I* find to be rude and/or uncivil.

“Do yourself a favor and try to deny this or I may be compelled to prove you wrong in a very big way.”

Son, you don’t even understand what I’m saying to you — and once again, you’re employing your speak-for-others methodology. You’re not going to be able to ‘prove me wrong’ because you don’t speak for me, TC. That said, bring. it. on.

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Jay – down play the debt crisis if you wish by being an alarmist carrying out “smoke and mirrors” tactics like so called “immigration reform” and same sex marriage, etc, etc, etc…….. the fact still remains – we are in a world wide financial crisis headed toward the Obama “G P II” with no plan to slow this disaster down. Obama will go down in history as Herbert Hoover of the 21st Century.

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The embarrasement that we now call Federal government has bankrupted our country with overspending of 6 trillion in the last 5 years, creating the USA as the largest debtor country on the planet and enslaving us to the now #2Economy China soon to surpass the USA as the undisputed world Economic Power by 2020. WE have followed the USSR into a country wracked by a war that cost 3 trillion over last 11 years and did abolutely nothing for our country other than to kill 10,000 of our young men and women for zero benefit. The USSR collapsed into Econmic ruin and a divided many nation ethnic mess after their disaster in Afghanistan and we are stepping into their footsteps exactly with a pending nightmare of rising prices then devalued dollar.. hyperinflation and complete collapse. The disgraceful no efforts by our elected officials are in fact treason to the US constitution and all elected officials in DC should be kicked out with zero pension or benefits..

Think about them when you go to store to pay 3.78.for a gallon of gas/ double what is what in 2008… Food cost now at 20% higher than 2 years ago medical care and insurance costs up by 15 % with unaffordable status for fully 1/3 of Americans and a permanent 50,000,000 people out of 315million now classified as below poverty level. Thanks alot to the incompetents that have run the USA into the ground!!

My parents were both Military officers and would turn over in their graves if they could see the Dont ask dont tell Gay love Military let sick Muslims shoot our men and women at Fort Hood Texas and cry poor babies! Prepeare for the pending collapse with Both East and West coast cities burning and the only US survivors in the Mid West and Mountain States .

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“This is what you fail to understand. I’m not *defending* my behavior. I’m *explaining* it. If you don’t like it, too effing bad.”

It sure seemed like you were objecting to mine and then defending yours in the process. In any case, I guess mine is too bad for you as well – right?

“Impossible, given that I have made no promise of uninterrupted politeness. You really *are* quite bad at this, TC.”

Umm…a hypocrite is someone who condemns others for doing things they themselves do – not breaking a “promise”. Etymologically, it means to “judge beneath”. You knew that, right?

“Once again, young man, other people aren’t under any obligation to use your yardstick. *You* don’t get to determine what *I* find to be rude and/or uncivil.”

ROFL. So why do you continually try to determine what civility is for me, to get me to converse in a “civil” manner?

Well, I think this is a dead horse at this point. It has devolved into the ridiculous. I shan’t debate further.

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But Jay, there’s a chance taxes might go up again and we all know how much you love tax increases. How can you be bored?

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“It sure seemed like you were objecting to mine and then defending yours in the process.”

Let’s see if you can follow this simple if-then process, TC. IF you treat me politely, THEN I will be polite to you in return. However, IF you treat me rudely, THEN I will return that rudeness back to you.

Ever seen me post that before? How many dozens of times?

It’s very simple, and not hypocritical at all. In fact, in its essence, it says ‘I give what I get.’ It doesn’t say ‘I’ll put up with your s**t for a long time.’ THAT would be hypocritical IMO.

“In any case, I guess mine is too bad for you as well – right?”

You can behave however you please. And I’ve indicated how I will respond to behavior from others; you and others are free to treat me however you please and with full knowledge of what you are likely to receive from me in in turn. It’s as simple as that.

“Umm…a hypocrite is someone who condemns others for doing things they themselves do – not breaking a “promise”.

(laughing)

I’ve told you that *I’ll* treat *you* in the same way that *you* treat *me.* There’s no hypocrisy in there, son. I haven’t promised or sworn to be polite, and I haven’t *directed* you to be polite, either. I’ve simply told you that I’ll be polite when treated so, and rude when treated that way. There’s not a whit of hypocrisy in there. (giggling)

“Etymologically, it means to “judge beneath”. You knew that, right?”

Certainly! And be sure to tell me where there’s any ‘judging beneath’ when I say that I’ll treat you the same way you treat me! (laughing, pointing)

“ROFL. So why do you continually try to determine what civility is for me”

I’ve never done any such thing.

I’ve told *you* when *I* think you’ve been rude to me, and I’ve repeatedly invited *you* to tell *me* when you think I’ve been rude to you. In fact, I last did that during our discussion of the Second Amendment.

It has become quite clear to me that you will be rude and uncivil — whether you’re doing it intentionally or unintentionally, I can’t say — quite frequently when you become frustrated in discussions. Frankly, I don’t think you have it in you to be civil over the course of an extended discussion where significant differences of opinion remain.

“to get me to converse in a “civil” manner?”

If you *don’t* want to converse civilly with me, then don’t do so. It’s really that simple. But if that’s what you want, then don’t complain that you’re being treated rudely. Once again, with me, you’ll get what you give. But that being said, I’m not trying to *force* you to do anything. I simply don’t believe that I’m under any obligation to be pleasant and polite to people who are being Richards to me. You may, of course, have a different view, and if so, you’re certainly welcome to it. However, I think I’ve made it clear to you how I’ll handle such a situation.

Now, if you prefer that we go on being rude to each other, that’s fine. Simply say so, and I’ll stop mentioning your rudeness and suggesting that you behave with greater decorum. Then we can just kick the bulletin-board stuffings out of each other to our hearts’ content.

“Well, I think this is a dead horse at this point. It has devolved into the ridiculous. I shan’t debate further.”

Oh, come now. You hadn’t even *begun.*

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I would call it more than intrangidence

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It’s really the same budget crisis. Democrats have convinced America that all the emergency stimulus spending and bailout spending are part of the new spending baseline, and then make their changes from that inflated number.

You wanna see how they are spending like drunken sailors? Compare spending in 2007, the last year without stimulus spending and other emergency measures, to 2012. Skyrocketed, far, far faster than population growth plus inflation. And they’ve convinced the left wing to ignore the fact that those trillions were supposed to be one time additional spending measures, not every year bonus money for the left to flush down the toilet.

I see no reason other than intransigence that spending couldn’t be cut back to 2007 levels (plus additional equivalent to population growth plus inflation), but it will never happen. Obama and the Democrats would have to be honest first, and the left wing citizenry will have to see the truth instead of the lies about spending Obama has been allowing them to believe.

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I am a physician and as a condition of employment and medical staff privileges I am required
to have an annual PPD test. There is already a precedence in being stuck by a small needle as
healthcare workers as a condition of employment.
If employees have the right to refuse, then as a patient or family member I should have the
right to be informed and refuse care from these individuals.

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