Yawn … yet another budget crisis looms

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When a picture is worth a thousand words, go with the picture.

As my colleague Mike Luckovich depicts so well, the sequester is yet another in what is now seems like a never-ending series of artificial budget crises in Washington. What was once extraordinary has become ordinary.

The sequester, for example, is the bastard child of a previous crisis in 2011, when Republicans threatened to push the country into default by refusing to raise the debt ceiling. To get past that crisis, Washington created the sequester, timing the new crisis for after the election and designing it to be so painful to both parties that when the time came, Democrats and Republicans would surely be forced to compromise to avoid it.

They underestimated their own — or each other’s — intransigence. House Republicans have passed a plan to replace the sequester by gutting a series of government poverty and social service programs, in other words putting the burden entirely on those already suffering It contains no new revenue and no cuts in defense.

Democrats, on the other hand, propose a mixture of cuts and revenue increases, with President Obama committing publicly to a ratio of two dollars in cuts for one dollar in new revenue.

But never the twain shall meet, apparently.

Business Insider conducted an interesting poll, asking 550 people which of three proposed budget solutions they prefer. The plans were taken from proposals by House Republicans, the House Progressive Caucus and Senate Democrats, although those polled were not told where the plans originated.

Here’s what the poll found:

Surprisingly, the plan that polled the strongest was the House Progressive Caucus plan. More than half of respondents supported it compared to sequestration and just a fifth of respondents were opposed….

Shockingly, 47 percent of Republicans preferred the House Progressive plan to the sequester. This means that Republicans supported the House Progressive plan just as much as they supported their own party’s plan…. Opposition to the House Republican plan was strong, with 57 percent preferring the sequester to that plan.

– Jay Bookman

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Corbin Sharpe. I think, therefore I am...I think.

February 28th, 2013
10:20 am

An interesting read…

First Thoughts: How we got here

With the clock ticking until the sequester cuts, explaining how we got here… Failed assumptions, failed Grand Bargains… Boehner to appear on “Meet”… When does the sequester take effect? Answer: Anytime before 11:59 pm ET on March 1… Senate confirms Lew as Treasury secretary, while John Brennan gets bumped to next week… And why Iowa is so important to 2014.
By Chuck Todd, Mark Murray, Domenico Montanaro, and Brooke Brower

*** How we got here: With Washington headed — inexorably — to Friday’s deadline when the automatic across-the-board spending cuts take effect, there’s a natural question to ask: How did we get here and why didn’t the sequester work as intended? Well, here’s our quick answer: First, Republicans, fueled by the Tea Party and their gains in the 2010 midterms on a message of cutting back the size of government, demanded that they would raise the debt limit only accompanied by equal spending cuts. (Prior to that, debt-ceiling increases had been fairly routine exercises for all past administrations.) Second, after agreeing to some spending cuts, the Obama White House and congressional Republicans couldn’t agree how to reduce the deficit by an additional $1.2 trillion over 10 years (to raise the debt limit by that much because the White House wanted to avoid another debt-ceiling showdown before Nov. 2012), so they created the sequester. That mechanism ($600 billion cuts in defense spending cuts that Republicans weren’t supposed to like; $600 billion in non-defense spending cuts that Democrats weren’t supposed to like) was intended to be so draconian that it would force the two parties to make a deal. As we know, it was the brainchild of Jack Lew, a veteran of the budget wars of the ‘80s, the first time the word “sequester” entered the Washington lexicon.
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*** Failed assumptions, failed Grand Bargains: Third, the assumption that the cuts would force a compromise turned out to be incorrect. Whether it was during the Super Committee, the fiscal-cliff negotiations, or now, those spending cuts — especially on defense — weren’t enough to strike a deal. As it turns out, the deficit-hawk wing of the GOP got only larger in both the House and Senate. Fourth, all attempts for a Grand Bargain failed: In 2011, both sides retreated to let the election decide the fiscal fight. And at the end of 2012, they dealt only with the expiring Bush-era tax cuts (and not the sequester or increasing the debt ceiling again). Fifth and finally, that fiscal-cliff deal on the Bush tax cuts created a TREMENDOUS amount of intra-party blowback for House Speaker John Boehner, which only made resolving this sequester standoff even more difficult. (After all, remember that it wasn’t too long ago when the big discussion in DC was whether Boehner would lose his speakership.) And just as importantly, folks like Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell and Sen. John Cornyn — who are both up for re-election next year and both have colleagues from their states who have become Tea Party stars (Rand Paul, Ted Cruz) – are probably more reluctant to make a deal than ever before. Bottom line: The Senate escape hatch that saved the day during the fiscal-cliff fight isn’t there right now.

*** Sequester is here to stay: So ultimately, the big miscalculation on the White House’s part on sequester was that defense spending would be a forcing mechanism. It is not and will not be. And, as things stand right now, they are wrong to believe the Republicans are going to break like they did at end of 2012. The law was on the president’s ideological side at the end of 2012. That’s why the GOP broke on taxes. In this case, the law is on the Republicans’ ideological side. It is easier for them to defend the sequester at home because they can say, “We said we’d cut spending and the size of government, the president tried to stop us but we wouldn’t let him.” A bad spending cut for many Republicans is easier to defend than any supposed fair tax hike on anyone. So if the White House really wants to stop the sequester, they might have to come up with their own set of $85 billion in spending cuts for this year to replace it. In this political environment, there is no way Boehner, McConnell and Cornyn can politically survive doing anything short of that. The president can still get more revenue down the road on tax reform, but he may have to fold on sequester if he wants a chance at winning in the long run. But that’s also a hard thing to ask a president who just won re-election on this very issue.

getalife

February 28th, 2013
10:20 am

Good for Mike for documenting the unhinged behavior from the right.

Now the cons are cheering on woodward from the lame street media that took out their hero nixon.

Steve

February 28th, 2013
10:20 am

Sometimes when I read through these threads (I must be insane to do this) I wonder if this what a Klan meeting is like, with a few sane people thrown in for countermeasure.

You people are not grounded in reality. The GOP is going to get thrashed for this, and the polls show it.

But wait – YOU were dead sure Romney would clean Obama’s clock in the election. I read it here over and over and over…

Joe Hussein Mama

February 28th, 2013
10:20 am

SSI — “His thesis was, at that point the pahhty would cease to affect any
policy, and would disintegrate quickly thereafter.
Do you think it’s possible to find that number?”

I think that’s a bit beyond my capabilities, but I did read recently that Iowa seems to have a very good mechanism for preventing gerrymandering. Have a look.

http://www.timesunion.com/opinion/article/Gerrymandering-Not-in-Iowa-1336319.php

Granny Godzilla

February 28th, 2013
10:21 am

Black Liberation Theology a problem for some?

sounds to me like the only folks who would have a problem with that

are folks who think blacks should never have been given liberty.

Wowee Wow Wowser.

Doggone/GA

February 28th, 2013
10:22 am

“at which the Republicans can no longer gerrymander themselves disproportionate false power? – See more at: http://blogs.ajc.com/jay-bookman-blog/2013/02/28/yawn-yet-another-budget-crisis-looms/?cp=2#comment-1246211

Be interesting to know. But if they alienate enough of the moderate Repulicans, on whose votes they still depend, even their “safe” districts might become not so safe anymore.

Brosephus™ - Always bet on Black.

February 28th, 2013
10:24 am

Granny

Everytime I hear someone bring up that Black Liberation stuff, I think of this one here…

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DZaVA3NS7zE

Steve

February 28th, 2013
10:24 am

ahem – But wait – YOU were dead sure Romney would clean Obama’s clock in the election. I read it here over and over and over…

Checking in after the dictator gets another 4 years

February 28th, 2013
10:24 am

The “master” plan after the election was that they felt they had the republicans on the ropes and the plan is to block everything ( other than tax increases) and use the power of the press to blame everything on the GOP congress and watch their ratings to continue to drop. I’ll admit, it’s a beauty and working……But reality may hit the road one day soon……And Americans will look at current management eventually.

A dad

February 28th, 2013
10:24 am

What does everyone think about the WH emailed Bob Woodard he’s “regret”publishing an article that BO was including a tax raise in his sequester “negotiations”where no such raise was included before. 2d Amendment under attack and now looks like the 1st Amendment only applies if you say something this administration likes. Anyone else smelling the coffee?

kayaker 71

February 28th, 2013
10:24 am

Joe, 10:17,

Most everyone is known by the company they keep. If you hang around with thugs, you usually become one. Bozo and Bozoette sat and listened to this Black Liberation clown for 20 yrs for some reason. Usually, if you don’t like what someone is saying in the pulpit, you find another pulpit to listen to. You don’t have him marry you and baptize your kids if you have that many disagreements with what he believes in.

Joe Hussein Mama

February 28th, 2013
10:25 am

Brosephus — “JHM

You know that when Obama moved into the White House, he had all the presidential portraits put in storage and put up posters of the Original Black Panther Party, Public Enemy, Boogie Down Productions, X-Clan, and all that other radical “Black” stuff.”

I hear he replaced the portraits of previous Presidents in the West Wing with oil paintings of the members of the Wu-Tang Clan. And he’s got a gilded statue of Ol’ Dirty B@st@rd in one of the upstairs hallways.

Fred ™

February 28th, 2013
10:25 am

Brocephus: Don’t forget about the pic of 2Pak and the repeating soundtrack………

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=610vDBi3LgA

Arms Akimbo

February 28th, 2013
10:25 am

Seven things that cost the same as the Sequester:
1) The cost to bailout AIG.
2) 17% of what Americans spent on gas in 2012
3) $10 B LESS than Americans spent on beer in 2011
4) The defense budget in 1975
5) Twice the amount spent on the Beijing olympics
6) The total cost of improper payments from Medicare every two years.
7) 13% of what Americans spent on groceries last year.

UNCLE SAMANTHA

February 28th, 2013
10:26 am

EVEN BOB WOODWARD DEALS WITH CRAZY LIBERALS………

Journalist Bob Woodward Clashes With White House Over Sequester Report

http://news.yahoo.com/journalist-bob-woodward-clashes-white-073806745.html

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MICHAEL SAVAGE WAS RIGHT! LIBERALISM IS A MENTAL DISORDER

http://www.amazon.com/Liberalism-Mental-Disorder-Savage-Solutions/dp/1595550437

jhunt163

February 28th, 2013
10:27 am

Jay “Then how do you explain this chart, Parrot”

Jay isn’t 2010 when the spending baseline increased by $834 billion dollars? Of course it is going to stay flat after that.

TaxPayer

February 28th, 2013
10:27 am

It’s really sad watching these cons falling down a bottomless pit while continuing to proclaim that victory is theirs any moment now. :roll:

alex

February 28th, 2013
10:27 am

Yawn is right, the problem is we have NO leadership on right or left,The problem is we have 1 poll, “Business insider” and Jay makes claims based on 1 poll, next poll will be???. Consider regression to mean, consider what YOU said that Silver recognized that multiple polls are required to actually get a signal. But, NO the lazy left or right will blame the other side, no matter how flimsy is the evidence…Jay your severly biased AND lazy, which is getting to be more of a problem, pick your game up or I AM OUT OF HERE (dissappointed–no?) … Granny, you’ll miss me

Yawn is right, all of Obamas histrionics are ridiculous, the Budget talks in 3 weeks will supercede this dustup. Time to get serious in Washington..

Welcome back Fred, ….

Simple Truths

February 28th, 2013
10:28 am

Arms @ 10:25

Seven things that cost the same as the Sequester:
1) The cost to bailout AIG.
2) 17% of what Americans spent on gas in 2012
3) $10 B LESS than Americans spent on beer in 2011
4) The defense budget in 1975
5) Twice the amount spent on the Beijing olympics
6) The total cost of improper payments from Medicare every two years.
7) 13% of what Americans spent on groceries last year. – See more at: http://blogs.ajc.com/jay-bookman-blog/2013/02/28/yawn-yet-another-budget-crisis-looms/?cp=all#comment-1246228

Shhh! Don’t tell Redneck about #3.

Brosephus™ - Always bet on Black.

February 28th, 2013
10:28 am

But if they alienate enough of the moderate Repulicans, on whose votes they still depend, even their “safe” districts might become not so safe anymore.

As long as those moderate Republicans still associate with the party, I think they’re safe. Only when those moderates get the fortitude to say enough is enough and depart from the crazy will things start to change. At the same time, there has to be a 2nd candidate that is a sane and obvious choice, whether it’s in the primary or a Democratic candidate in the general election.

Welcome to the Occupation

February 28th, 2013
10:29 am

Heyward : “GAULT…………….baby …………GAULT.”

Don’t you have spellcheck on that thing? :)

williebkind

February 28th, 2013
10:29 am

“WHY do you hate Uncle Sam? And when did this cancer matastasize in you neocons?”

We hate Uncle Same? We love the constitution and our countries traditions. It is you progressive liberals since 1912 that have tried to make the constittution a living document so you change it everytime you get an errection.

Granny Godzilla

February 28th, 2013
10:29 am

a dad

I think Woodward will regret the error in his reporting..
Grown ups regret making errors.

Of course, if one was a paranoid freak, one might think
it but him on that old white house enemies list that had folks
on like Paul Newman and Barbra….

Oh wait He was on Nixon’s enemies list!

Fred ™

February 28th, 2013
10:29 am

I see what Herman was preaching the last half hour. We now have our THIRD recent reference to Bob Woodward.

Of course we discussed that downstairs in the 7 oclock hour……… but these folks hadn’t woke up from their nightly drunk yet………..

Corbin Sharpe. I think, therefore I am...I think.

February 28th, 2013
10:30 am

Kayaker,

Is that all you have? Rev. Wright again? When all else fails bring out the Reverend. Oh yeah, THAT’LL divert ‘em… Good Gawd! What a hoot.

Granny Godzilla

February 28th, 2013
10:30 am

kayaker 71

February 28th, 2013
10:24 am

Joe, 10:17,

Most everyone is known by the company they keep. If you hang around with thugs, you usually become one. Bozo and Bozoette sat and listened to this Black Liberation clown for 20 yrs for some reason. Usually, if you don’t like what someone is saying in the pulpit, you find another pulpit to listen to. You don’t have him marry you and baptize your kids if you have that many disagreements with what he believes in.

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DO YOU THINK BLACKS SHOULD NOT HAVE BEEN GIVEN LIBERTY?

Bob

February 28th, 2013
10:30 am

Doggone/GA

February 28th, 2013
9:09 am

“Doggone @ 9:02 – I think he’s talking about this”
And never mind that it CLEARLY STATES in the VERY FIRST sentence that the bill was NOT submitted by Obama. “A budget resolution based on President Obama’s 2013 budget failed to get any votes in the Senate on Wednesday”
Doggone, are you really that gullible ? They were executive office budget proposals and they received zero democrat votes, why does Harry Reid want Obama to fail. ? If you want to say they were not Obama’s proposals then show us his budget proposals and show us how many dems voted for HIS proposals. You either have to agree that the proposals were from the exec office or show us the ones they did submit. Also, if thse proposals were not from the admin and were not from the house, who submitted them for a senate vote, the girl scouts ?

Brosephus™ - Always bet on Black.

February 28th, 2013
10:31 am

JHM & Fred

I’m glad I haven’t fixed my coffee yet. I’d be wiping down my monitor right about now.

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

I completely forgot about Pac and the Wu… Fred, you’re gonna have me listening to that all day now.

:)

Steve

February 28th, 2013
10:31 am

But but but …polls are skewed toward libruls!!

Joe Hussein Mama

February 28th, 2013
10:31 am

K71 — “Most everyone is known by the company they keep. If you hang around with thugs, you usually become one.”

Ever seen that picture of Don Rumsfeld shaking Saddam Hussein’s hand?

“Bozo and Bozoette sat and listened to this Black Liberation clown for 20 yrs for some reason. Usually, if you don’t like what someone is saying in the pulpit, you find another pulpit to listen to. You don’t have him marry you and baptize your kids if you have that many disagreements with what he believes in.”

Thank you for agreeing with what I said earlier. Cons think that being around someone long enough means that you completely agree with everything they ever said, did, thought or wrote.

Jefferson

February 28th, 2013
10:31 am

Reasonable people can come to reasonable conclusions under reasonable conditions unless you are a republican.

appleseed

February 28th, 2013
10:31 am

How do you want that cute cartoon? Mouth to ear,cheek to cheek.

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February 28th, 2013
10:32 am

“Luckovich nailed you Republicans today!”

Woodward nailed you Democrats today!

Fred ™

February 28th, 2013
10:32 am

We love the constitution and our countries traditions. It is you progressive liberals since 1912 that have tried to make the constittution a living document so you change it everytime you get an errection.

Really? Explain to me exactly how President Bush’s Patriot act fits in with the US Constitution?
Guantanamo? Water Boarding?

I’ll wait.

Matt321

February 28th, 2013
10:32 am

Crazy world we live in, where the delusional fever dreams of right wing lunatic bloggers and radio gasbags (Obama’s a secret Kenyan Marxist) are treated seriously by the media and given endless screen time (we have to fix the deficit now or it will kill us!) but the solid proposals of the House Progressive Caucus (the largest Democratic caucus) are completely ignored. Forget about anything to the left of the Progressive Caucus (a real left wouldn’t be making any austerity plan right now, for example).

Granny Godzilla

February 28th, 2013
10:33 am

Mr. Digits

Nope, Woodward erred.

Joe Hussein Mama

February 28th, 2013
10:33 am

williebkind — “We hate Uncle Same? We love the constitution and our countries traditions. It is you progressive liberals since 1912 that have tried to make the constittution a living document”

Dude, the Founders *themselves* put ten Amendments in before the country was even 20 years old. There’s your proof positive that even the Founders considered the Consititution a living document.

If they didn’t want it to be changeable, then they wouldn’t have written an amendment procedure right into it. :roll:

St Simons - he-ne-ha

February 28th, 2013
10:34 am

Joe – I read it, I like the bias removal, like we do at USDA & UGA !
very appealing, but I couldn’t get my head around how he would find
that number with reliability, either.

Dog – I think the Republicans might find that number faster than we can
heheh

Brosephus™ - Always bet on Black.

February 28th, 2013
10:34 am

Fred and JHM

I bet you didn’t know Obama had one of these on the desk in the Oval Office to get his drink on…

http://peacemoonbeam.typepad.com/.a/6a00d83451af9f69e2010535b3c5d9970b-320wi

All true pimps have their own pimp cup, but there’s only one pimp cup that has the eagle on it.

:lol:

alex

February 28th, 2013
10:35 am

@ a dad, personally, I think Woodward has been exceedingly full of himself since watergate and he has had some incredible contacts with the WH, how do you think he has those contacts? Just a dust up, all WHs’ want to control the press, this one just continues the trend. That’s my take. Whiney BW and whiney WH, YAWN-more of the same…kiss and make up—

Joe Hussein Mama

February 28th, 2013
10:36 am

Brosephus — “I completely forgot about Pac and the Wu… Fred, you’re gonna have me listening to that all day now.”

I heard that if the GOP wouldn’t go for Kerry and Hagel for State and Defense, that the President was going to nominate U-God and Inspectah Deck. :D

Fred ™

February 28th, 2013
10:36 am

LOL Brocephus, I was going to post a sample of lyrics from that song but I had to X so many words out it made no sense………. I couldn’t express myself, can you EXPRESS YOURSELF:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WmoC5cj8sw4

(I’d like to thank the Grand Theft Auto series and the US Army for my Rap knowledge).

0311/8541/5811/1811/1801

February 28th, 2013
10:36 am

Hey Jay:

What did Luckovich say about doing a cartoon of Obama whispering threats in Woodward’s ear ?

stands for decibels - Race Traitor!

February 28th, 2013
10:36 am

Second, (as I recall understanding it) some of the loopholes for the “rich” targeted by the Progreessive Caucus impact charitable giving and the mortgage interest deduction.

I don’t like the former all that much, but I would need to see some kind of legitimate economic analysis that shows these organizations would take much of a hit if the deductability for such things were capped in such a way to only affect, say, the upper 5% or so of incomes (and the cap were pegged to inflation) My suspicion is that they wouldn’t—I think when you get to a certain lofty level of philanthropy, it’s more to do with ego and, yes, actual values, than filthy lucre.

If the real concern is that poor/afflicted folks served by these charities might feel the sting, how’s about raising everyone’s wages to a living one? How about providing better funding for Medicaid? How about LOWERING the eligibility for Medicare, if we can’t have single payer? How about operating like a civilized industrialized country instead of some loose gathering of backwoods hicks? but I digress.

Union

February 28th, 2013
10:36 am

Granny Godzilla
February 28th, 2013
10:33 am
Mr. Digits
Nope, Woodward erred.

“White House officials have downplayed Woodward’s account, saying that no threats were intended and that the original impetus for the email to Woodward was to apologize for an earlier heated phone conversation. And while the administration does not directly dispute Woodward’s reporting, officials believe he is focusing on a moot point.”

gg.. dont know how to bold and all that.. and i am sure i am behind.. but two things stick out.. one that the wh took the position that they were not disputing what he said.. just didnt like what he said.. and apparently when you tell someone you are going to “regret” what you said.. its not meant as a veiled threat when it comes from the wh..

Brosephus™ - Always bet on Black.

February 28th, 2013
10:37 am

JHM: Thank you for agreeing with what I said earlier. Cons think that being around someone long enough means that you completely agree with everything they ever said, did, thought or wrote.

That’s what happens when YOU do that very thing. You assume that everyone else does it because you do.

stands for decibels - Race Traitor!

February 28th, 2013
10:37 am

Digits, what are you, Bob Woodward’s mom?

He’s a big boy. He can cry for himself.

Welcome to the Occupation

February 28th, 2013
10:38 am

Believe me, Jay, we’re yawning with you.

/yawn

getalife

February 28th, 2013
10:38 am

woodward is washed up.

“‘GROWTH’: 0.1%…”:

Bad time for cuts but the gop does not care about your jobs.

The gop are job killers.

0311/8541/5811/1811/1801

February 28th, 2013
10:38 am

Obama: “I am not a crook !”

Bob

February 28th, 2013
10:38 am

Granny Godzilla,
kayaker 71
Most everyone is known by the company they keep. If you hang around with thugs, you usually become one. Bozo and Bozoette sat and listened to this Black Liberation clown for 20 yrs for some reason. Usually, if you don’t like what someone is saying in the pulpit, you find another pulpit to listen to. You don’t have him marry you and baptize your kids if you have that many disagreements with what he believes in. .
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DO YOU THINK BLACKS SHOULD NOT HAVE BEEN GIVEN LIBERTY
This statement shows grannys mentality, somone bashes Obama for lying about following rev Wright and leftist granny claims Kayaker does not want liberty for blacks, priceless and clueless in one statement ! Granny, if this was about liberty why did Obama run from Wright instead of embracing him in the name of liberty ? Obama told us he did not believe what Wright was spewing after the subject came up, siad he missed those sundays, maybe neither Obama and Kayaker do not want liberty for blacks since Obama told us that Wright was wrong.

Rightwing Troll

February 28th, 2013
10:39 am

Whats truly ironic is the fact that when you step back and look, more of the wingnuts here mewing on a daily basis get gubbimint checks than do the lib ilks… A large portion of the resident winguts are in fact 47%ers , yet they constantly lie and whine about some mythical part of society that doesn’t work and pays no taxes…

0311/8541/5811/1811/1801

February 28th, 2013
10:39 am

Union:

Careful now or you will get threats from the liberals on “here” !

Union

February 28th, 2013
10:39 am

Brosephus™ – Always bet on Black.
February 28th, 2013
10:34 am

i heard this was in the presidential limo.. :)

http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l254/lowrider25/ForSaleairfresheners001.jpg

alittlecommonsense

February 28th, 2013
10:40 am

Hussein “Does that make it more clear?

Next time, try leaving out the party-friendly red meat like the malpractice award caps (and I apply this to both sides) and see if you can cobble together more cooperation.”

Yes it does make it more clear. If you think the Republicans put out a bad bill then that may be a reasonable position. I haven’t read the bill. I doubt anyone on this blog has.

My point wasn’t that the Republican bill was great. My point is that the Republicans put out a bill. The Democrats have just put out rhetoric. If they are really serious they will pass a bill. Or at least introduce one – not just make speeches.

Joe Hussein Mama

February 28th, 2013
10:40 am

Brosephus — “All true pimps have their own pimp cup, but there’s only one pimp cup that has the eagle on it.”

Have you seen Key & Peele on Comedy Channel? One of them does a great President Obama.

Scene: urban streetcorner, with several young black men having an impromptu rap competition. They’re rapping about their street cred, how tough they are, how many women they get, etc.

While they’re rapping, a black limo pulls up and a distinguished looking black man in a suit gets out. It’s President Obama, and the rappers fall silent in surprise.

Without a word, the President holds out his hand for the mike, and is given it.

He says, into the mike, “I’m the leader of the free world.”

Then he wordlessly drops the mike on the sidewalk, gets back in his limo and leaves. :D

mm

February 28th, 2013
10:41 am

This is a never ending cycle. Republicans break the bank when they are in power, and claim “deficits don’t matter”.

Then when Democrats are in power, the cons scream about the deficits they created. We’re still paying for the sh*tty policies the cons put in place under George of the Bungle.

Granny Godzilla

February 28th, 2013
10:41 am

Union

I don’t really care about a tinkling contest between 2 polticos too much…

Woodwards original report, what started this tempest in a teapot, was wrong.

key words “deficit reduction”

Regret….I believe Bob will “regret” having been wrong in the first place.

I’m quite comfortable that it has nothing to do with black ops…..

Welcome to the Occupation

February 28th, 2013
10:42 am

stands: “I think when you get to a certain lofty level of philanthropy, it’s more to do with ego and, yes, actual values, than filthy lucre ”

That, and IDEOLOGY. (See Bill Gates)

Which ideology? The ideology of charity itself, namely.

Union

February 28th, 2013
10:43 am

gg.. didnt think the helicopters were going to swarm in.. :)

Joe Hussein Mama

February 28th, 2013
10:44 am

SSI — “I couldn’t get my head around how he would find
that number with reliability, either.”

We’ve seen *horrible* transient numbers even for highly-placed Republicans (I think Cheney once sported an 11% approval), but it’s not just the number itself — it’s the *timing* of the number relative to an election in which the person stands to lose their office. So even though Bush the Elder topped 90% right after Desert Storm, that number didn’t guarantee his reelection just as Cheney’s 11% didn’t guarantee anything.

bucket

February 28th, 2013
10:45 am

I wish I could be Bookman and just blame all the people I disagree with for all the problems in the world! But alas, some of us have to live in the real world. I guess Bookman doesn’t read his own paper’s stories:

http://www.ajc.com/news/news/national-govt-politics/white-house-tells-woodward-hell-regret-criticism/nWcYs/

Steve

February 28th, 2013
10:45 am

How does it feel to be a marginalized group of people, now, Cons? Seriously – you need to realize that your views are tinfoil hat/unabomber.

straitroad

February 28th, 2013
10:46 am

The federal budget will be larger next year than this year, even with a paltry two percent cut and in the opinion of the author, this constitutes “gutting”.

Tealiban Party

February 28th, 2013
10:46 am

JKL2
February 28th, 2013
8:34 am
Your too stupid…..

Haha! Sometimes insults have an opposite effect…. Haha!

Fred ™

February 28th, 2013
10:46 am

Granny Godzilla

February 28th, 2013
10:46 am

Bob

Did I claim K71 didn’t want liberty for blacks or did I ask if he did or not?

Bottom line….

What is the problem with problem with Black Liberation Theology?

Are you willing to condemn it because you heard 20 seconds of one sermon?

Latrina

February 28th, 2013
10:46 am

I had barely recovered from the Rapture and the Mayan Calendar when that physical cliff thing came along which I am still upset about, so please Jay do not lay another crisis on us right now.

Union

February 28th, 2013
10:46 am

sequester already… gas will be at 4 dollars.. taxes are hitting the middle class.. its tough all over.. but as long as people can be distracted by all of this nonsense.. then they wont think about it.

Granny Godzilla

February 28th, 2013
10:47 am

Union

Didn’t mean to imply you did.

Brosephus™ - Always bet on Black.

February 28th, 2013
10:48 am

JHM: I heard that if the GOP wouldn’t go for Kerry and Hagel for State and Defense, that the President was going to nominate U-God and Inspectah Deck. :)

I heard through the grapevine that if the GOP filibusters the Interior pick, he’s going with Snoop Dog. He mentions something about Snoop’s love for trees…. :)

————–

Fred

Found Obama’s new photo and video with his Cabinet…

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6twy639dNA0

Brosephus™ - Always bet on Black.

February 28th, 2013
10:50 am

Union @ 10:39

I haven’t seen those in ages!!!!! That’s a good one!!!

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Doggone/GA

February 28th, 2013
10:51 am

“Only when those moderates get the fortitude to say enough is enough and depart from the crazy will things start to change – See more at: http://blogs.ajc.com/jay-bookman-blog/2013/02/28/yawn-yet-another-budget-crisis-looms/?cp=3#sthash.fJDXhaoR.dpuf

that’s pretty much what I said, isn’t it? If they alientate enough of those moderate Republicans…they might find their “safe” districts not so safe anymore.

barking frog

February 28th, 2013
10:51 am

A crisis manufactured by both sides. Let them live with
their creation and reap the consequences.

alex

February 28th, 2013
10:51 am

Enter your comments here

Regnad Kcin

February 28th, 2013
10:51 am

“Regret….I believe Bob will “regret” having been wrong in the first place.

I’m quite comfortable that it has nothing to do with black ops…..”
===========

But Cain said “regret” means “I’m gonna git U sucka!”

Doggone/GA

February 28th, 2013
10:52 am

“They were executive office budget proposals and they received zero democrat votes, why does Harry Reid want Obama to fail – See more at: http://blogs.ajc.com/jay-bookman-blog/2013/02/28/yawn-yet-another-budget-crisis-looms/?cp=3#comment-1246288

They were not submitted by Obama. They are not Obama’s budget proposals. Are YOU really that gullible?

Granny Godzilla

February 28th, 2013
10:53 am

Regnad

What can we say? He also sold icky pizza.

Get Real

February 28th, 2013
10:54 am

Luckovich has and always will be a complete and total douche…perhaps he and Jay are secret pals..

alex

February 28th, 2013
10:54 am

@ bark, unfortunately we, as a country, are saddled with their inadequacies…

Peadawg

February 28th, 2013
10:55 am

“Let them live with their creation and reap the consequences.”

The problem w/ that line of thinking is that politicians likely won’t feel a thing.

Granny Godzilla

February 28th, 2013
10:55 am

Did somebody really for for the nobody voted for the Obama bydget stunt AGAIN?

snicker

Granny Godzilla

February 28th, 2013
10:55 am

Get Real

Douche?

He’s clean, sanitary and smells fresh?

wahoo

February 28th, 2013
10:56 am

stands:

Thank you for your response. What I found somewhat interesting is that the Progressive Caucus, at least based on the examples I cited, seemed to be more interested in raising taxes on the wealthy than in reducing defense spending. I personally was surprised by that – I would have pegged their priority to be more on defense spending.

I can tell you from my own experience that since my taxes have gone up this year I am planning to reduce my charitable giving. I don’t do this out of spite, but more rather to reflect the added challenges of realizing the financial goals I have for my family. I don’t know how many others will fall into this camp, but it wouldn’t surprise me if there were others who are like-minded.

I would oppose “raising everyone’s wages to a living one”, as you state it. It would be near impossible to define. I also think you’ll find it is inflationary, and more likely to reduce employment, especially for individuals with limited or no concrete job skills. On the minimum wage topic that is implicit in any living wage discussion, I prefer a lower minimum wage that enables middle school and high school kids to get jobs and learn the experience of being in the labor force. As for some of your other suggestions, those are more likely to expand the deficit rather than reduce it. Just because sovereign borrowing rates are low today does not mean we should avail ourselves of it, nor should we assume that sovereign borrowing costs will always remain low into the future. Given what debt:GDP is forecasted to be in approximately ten years by the CBO, we need to be bringing the deficit down. We need our debt to be growing at less than GDP is growing in order to be freeing up debt capacity at the sovereign level to deal with the future borrowings that we expect to have from our large transfer programs.

Brosephus™ - Always bet on Black.

February 28th, 2013
10:58 am

Fred

I had not seen that one before. MAD TV had some funny skits!!!

barking frog

February 28th, 2013
10:58 am

Peadawg
When the people hurt, politics changes. Remember
Clinton feeling your pain?

Towncrier

February 28th, 2013
10:58 am

More of the same politburo propaganda, it seems. It would be nice to see Jay address problems with the “regime” sometimes, such as its clear hypocrisy on things such as 1) using drones against American citizens and alleged terrorists without any apparent oversight and Obama’s condemnation of water boarding by the Bush administration 2) Obama in 2007-8 likening borrowing by the Bush administration to fund the war to using “a credit card from the Bank of China in the name of our children” and calling it “unpatriotic” 3) campaigning on the promise of transparency and then apparently trying to control the mainstream media narrative in a number of ways, as we have seen with Woodward and others:

http://www.politico.com/story/2013/02/woodward-at-war-88212.html?hp=t1_3

http://www.wmal.com/common/page.php?pt=WMAL+EXCLUSIVE%3A+Woodward%27s+Not+Alone+-+Fmr.+Clinton+Aide+Davis+Says+He+Received+White+House+Threat&id=8924&is_corp=0

One could go on, but why bother here? All apparently is well in the state of Denmark in Jay’s eyes.

williebkind

February 28th, 2013
10:59 am

“Really? Explain to me exactly how President Bush’s Patriot act fits in with the US Constitution?
Guantanamo? Water Boarding?”

There we go again with liberal reading comprhension! I could respond with the already stated positions the government has in time of war and peace. But like Pierce Morgan you will go into filibuster because it is your passion.

Fred ™

February 28th, 2013
10:59 am

Just damn GG. That was hilarious. But of course Get Real is an expert on the douche. He even made a video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=20Xd6QOajuo

barking frog

February 28th, 2013
10:59 am

alex
a saddle we placed on ourselves and can remove at will….

Brosephus™ - Always bet on Black.

February 28th, 2013
11:00 am

Doggone: that’s pretty much what I said, isn’t it?

Oops… :oops: I misread your statement. We’re in agreement.

DannyX

February 28th, 2013
11:00 am

“One could go on, but why bother here?”

Or one could just go start their own damn blog and stop looking for entitlements to this one.

stands for decibels - Race Traitor!

February 28th, 2013
11:00 am

Luckovich has and always will be a complete and total douche…perhaps he and Jay are secret pals..

Two long-time AJC veterans, of somewhat similar vintage, might be “secret pals?”

I must say, that pipe and tweed hunting cap look smashing on you, Sherlock.

JamVet

February 28th, 2013
11:01 am

So Scout @10:32, you are acknowledging that the most virulent of the Republicans DO hate Uncle Sam.

(As if that were some big secret, huh? LOL!)

And the truth shall set you free…

Bob

February 28th, 2013
11:01 am

Granny Godzilla

February 28th, 2013
10:46 am

Bob

Did I claim K71 didn’t want liberty for blacks or did I ask if he did or not?

Bottom line….What is the problem with problem with Black Liberation Theology?

Granny, why ask me ? I was not the guy that sat in the pews for 20 years and then shun rev Wright by saying he did not agree with what the preacher had to say. It seems as though Obama chose to shun Black Liberation Theology instead of telling America he believed in it. Why does Obama have a problem with Black Liberation Theology should be the question.

Towncrier

February 28th, 2013
11:02 am

“My point wasn’t that the Republican bill was great. My point is that the Republicans put out a bill. The Democrats have just put out rhetoric. If they are really serious they will pass a bill. Or at least introduce one – not just make speeches.”

Apparently politicians – including Obama – don’t want us to see the details so they are loathe to put anything on paper. With Obama it may be more than that – he may just be flat out lying and manipulating.

barking frog

February 28th, 2013
11:02 am

Within the Democratic Party there is plenty of room
for a liberal to be elected in 2016.

Fred ™

February 28th, 2013
11:02 am

LOL Today has been a classic example of the talk radio FOXBOTS and their rush to post the days thought as soon as someone tells them what to think. How many have comeon hear since Herman talked about Woodward?

Fred ™

February 28th, 2013
11:03 am

LOL comeon hear? I’ll learn English tomorrow……

williebkind

February 28th, 2013
11:03 am

Since most of you like to explore the internet all day dont forget to look at,”In case you missed it, Michelle Malkin has made a video parodying Michelle Obama’s and Jimmy Fallon’s viral “The Evolution Of Mom Dancing.” I hope you have fun.