Yawn … yet another budget crisis looms

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When a picture is worth a thousand words, go with the picture.

As my colleague Mike Luckovich depicts so well, the sequester is yet another in what is now seems like a never-ending series of artificial budget crises in Washington. What was once extraordinary has become ordinary.

The sequester, for example, is the bastard child of a previous crisis in 2011, when Republicans threatened to push the country into default by refusing to raise the debt ceiling. To get past that crisis, Washington created the sequester, timing the new crisis for after the election and designing it to be so painful to both parties that when the time came, Democrats and Republicans would surely be forced to compromise to avoid it.

They underestimated their own — or each other’s — intransigence. House Republicans have passed a plan to replace the sequester by gutting a series of government poverty and social service programs, in other words putting the burden entirely on those already suffering It contains no new revenue and no cuts in defense.

Democrats, on the other hand, propose a mixture of cuts and revenue increases, with President Obama committing publicly to a ratio of two dollars in cuts for one dollar in new revenue.

But never the twain shall meet, apparently.

Business Insider conducted an interesting poll, asking 550 people which of three proposed budget solutions they prefer. The plans were taken from proposals by House Republicans, the House Progressive Caucus and Senate Democrats, although those polled were not told where the plans originated.

Here’s what the poll found:

Surprisingly, the plan that polled the strongest was the House Progressive Caucus plan. More than half of respondents supported it compared to sequestration and just a fifth of respondents were opposed….

Shockingly, 47 percent of Republicans preferred the House Progressive plan to the sequester. This means that Republicans supported the House Progressive plan just as much as they supported their own party’s plan…. Opposition to the House Republican plan was strong, with 57 percent preferring the sequester to that plan.

– Jay Bookman

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curious

February 28th, 2013
9:14 am

The way some of you oppose closing tax loopholes, you must either be a beneficiary of the loophole or a lobbyist.

Which is it?

UNCLE SAMANTHA

February 28th, 2013
9:14 am

those DOGGONE FACTS!!! they make a liberal cry

Senate rejects Obama budget in 99-0 vote

http://thehill.com/blogs/floor-action/senate/227857-senate-rejects-obama-budget-in-99-0-vote/

In the middle

February 28th, 2013
9:14 am

This is Obama’s speech. Just sayin.

“Mr. President, I rise today to talk about America’s debt problem. The fact that we are here today to debate raising America’s debt limit is a sign of leadership failure. It is a sign that the U.S. government can’t pay its own bills.”

“It is a sign that we now depend on ongoing financial assistance from foreign countries to finance our government’s reckless fiscal policies. Over the past five years, our federal debt has increased by $3.5 trillion to $8.6 trillion. That is ‘‘trillion’’ with a ‘‘T.’’ That is money that we have borrowed from the Social Security trust fund, borrowed from China and Japan, borrowed from American taxpayers.”

bookman parrot

February 28th, 2013
9:15 am

sir jay, bho already has received a tax revenue increase with the fiscal cliff garbage. now he want another … then another … then another…. he will talk a good game of cuts … but they will somehow never happen

alittlecommonsense

February 28th, 2013
9:16 am

When Obama was campaigning it was 3 or 4 dollars of spending cuts per dollar of new revenue. Now it’s two. And I guess that doesn’t count the round of new revenue that just happened.

And I don’t really even trust that he is cutting anything. Let’s see the bill. I could be wrong but I don’t think the Senate democrats have passed any bill to attempt to stop the sequester. The House Republicans have. Until someone inroduces a bill, it’s just all hot air and posturing.

Corbin Sharpe. I think, therefore I am...I think.

February 28th, 2013
9:18 am

bookman parrot

February 28th, 2013
9:15 am

“he will talk a good game of cuts … but they will somehow never happen”

And you know this, how?

Union

February 28th, 2013
9:19 am

sigh.. the report of 700k jobs lost gives itself an out by saying it “could” happen. a lot of things “could” happen.

Fred ™

February 28th, 2013
9:19 am

Oh and dB? I disagree that we can’t have cuts in programs. There is waste in EVERY program out there. While I would bet at LEAST 15% is waste, you of course can’t go and cut 15% from every program because you wouldn’t be getting the waste.

But there are common sense cuts that can be made just like there are common sense tax raises that can be made. If I am reading you correctly, you maintain that NOTHING can be cut. That is as unrealistic as saying NO new taxes or tax increases will solve our problems. We need both increases and cuts.

Class of '98

February 28th, 2013
9:20 am

“with President Obama committing publicly…”

Gosh liberals are stupid. After four+ years of his presidency, they still rely on the tired line of , “Well that’s what Obama SAID he is going to do!!!”, as if that is supposed to end the debate. Whether or not he can do something, or even INTENDS to do something he promises is irrelevant. Liberals see Obama as a faultless, perfect god, and if he SAYS something is going to happen, well, that is the gospel truth to them. Just two of my favorites:

“If you like your current health plan, you can keep it.”
“I will cut the deficit in half in my first term.”

He relies on the stupidity of the gullible sheeple who believe every word he says but are incapable of analyzing his actions. When Lincoln said you can’t fool all of the people all of the time, he didn’t foresee Obamabots.

Jay, unlike you, I don’t believe every precious word that comes out of his mouth. He wants to cut NOTHING, and you quoting him SAYING that intends to cut means less than zero to me.

Joe Hussein Mama

February 28th, 2013
9:22 am

alittlecommonsense — “I don’t think the Senate democrats have passed any bill to attempt to stop the sequester. The House Republicans have.”

The bill the House Republicans passed contained caps for medical malpractice lawsuits.

Tell me, what exactly, do medical malpractice lawsuits have to with the Federal budget and Federal spending?

Simple Truths

February 28th, 2013
9:22 am

I listened yesterday to the back and forth poutrage about only having one carrier task force in the Persian Gulf instead of two.

I have an idea: How about zero carrier task forces in the Persian Gulf? That would be a cost savings!

Welcome to the Occupation

February 28th, 2013
9:22 am

Sorry, had some cut-paste difficulties there. Here’s that Jeffrey Sachs passage again:

Obama has always planned to slash spending

To hear US President Barack Obama tell it this week, the budget sequestration – automatic spending cuts due to kick in on Friday March 1 – will decimate the government. Each party is blaming the other, as if something new and unexpected was about to begin. Many of the pending cuts are indeed ill-advised, but the surprising truth is that from the start of his presidency Mr Obama has planned a steep decrease in discretionary spending as a share of national income.

Each year he has put a budget on the table. Each year that budget has called for a sharp decline in discretionary spending as a share of gross domestic product in 2012 and later years. His rhetoric about increasing public investments in America’s future has always been contrary to the budgets he has presented, though most of his supporters have been unaware of this contradiction.

http://blogs.ft.com/the-a-list/2013/02/27/obama-has-always-planned-to-slash-spending/#axzz2M9Qe1Pzq

Common Sense is Uncommon

February 28th, 2013
9:22 am

The president managed to find 60 million dollars laying around the White House to give without any strings attached to Syrian rebels most of whom are Al Quaida thugs! The rip off continues. I suppose if Michelle would skip one vacation she could save more than 60 million of our dollars but don’t count on it. Can anyone remember Laura Bush taking her daughters on million dollar vacations in the eight years she was the first lady? No? Speaking of Syrian rebels, we are still waiting for that promised thorough investigation of and holding those responsible for the Benghazi murders. Four dead americans and no one in this administration has been held accountable. Can any one say cover up, perjury, liars?

Thomas heyward Jr

February 28th, 2013
9:24 am

0.1% GDP growth?
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LOL.
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And that 0.1% is probably just an accounting error or some federale Job program BS.
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GALT…………….baby………….GALT.
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Decent people are shrugging off the Progressive Federale parasites………….and it’s ABOUT TIME.
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Forward Liberty!

Doggone/GA

February 28th, 2013
9:24 am

“those DOGGONE FACTS!!! they make a liberal cry”

When you have to lie to make a point, you have no point. That “budget” was not submitted by Obama, therefore it was not HIS budget.

Erwin's cat

February 28th, 2013
9:24 am

yawn …. sequester already!

Simple Truths

February 28th, 2013
9:24 am

Corbin @ 9:18 “And you know this, how?”

I think bookman parrot has been studying history.

Arms Akimbo

February 28th, 2013
9:24 am

President Obama has the ability to move funds around to make the sequester less painful. He prefers to use the bully pulpit to try to inflict damage on the GOP for the upcoming election. Once again, Obama shows that he is more interested in partisan politics than the best interests of the country. The interesting trend with Obama right now is how he has blatantly put himself out for sale. The NYT’s revelation last weekend of Obama’s new super-pac Organizing for Action essentailly puts a for sale sign in the White House window. For only $500k, a donor can get quarterly meetings with the President. He did not even meet with the buisness development committee he created for over a year. Isn’t it interesting that Southern Company is finally getting a Federal government loan guarantee for its nuclear power plant projects only after becoming a corporate sponsor for Obama’s inauguration party? Al Capone, I mean President Obama, understands that you have to pay to play to get anything done in my town. It’s the Chicago way. The real tragedy is that despite all the defense of the middle class rhetoric, the only people benefiting from the Obama reign are Democratic insiders and Obama loyalists. The rest of us bear the burden of higher health insurance, energy prices, food prices, and a contraction of take home pay. All of this so an egomaniac can fill the coffers for himself and his cronies.

williebkind

February 28th, 2013
9:25 am

During a commerical, I changed the channel from FOX news to CNN. There was “Pierce” Morgan talking about gun control. I should say Morgan was filabustering the discussion and not allowing the the INVITED guest to respond to a question by taking one word of his guest’s response and unleashing a diatribe of statistics of gun ban controls in other countries. Of course being the progressive wacko liberal he is those statistics were shaped to report a desired outcome–typical liberal research. I did not know that other countries had a 2nd amd. I did not know that liberals do not have a definition of “arms”. I did know liberals have a reading comprehension such as “shall not infringe”. So once again we need 1st amd CONTROL. Ban news media from reporting opinions or as Morgan said, “I am passionate about gun control” which is a violation of constitutional rights. News medial should report facts and not associate or discuss those facts with political agendas. That is for the people to decide. So lets ban parts of the 1st amd because of the abuse and the damages and lives it has taken. Our forefathers, even if you are a recently arrived immigrant ment for the news to keep the public informed with facts and events not to shape the facts and use the event for politcal gain which usually creates chaos and debt. Pierce Morgan is a numpty first class.

Union

February 28th, 2013
9:26 am

medicare fraud costs between?? 60 – 80 billion a year depending on whose numbers you look at. funny thing though.. asking the govt to step in and doing something about it.. just doesnt work either. in 2008 the govt setup a medicaid fraud audit program.. it spent @ 120 million to find less than 20 million in over payments..

irs fraud another 5+ billion dollars..

Welcome to the Occupation

February 28th, 2013
9:29 am

Class of ‘98: “Gosh liberals are stupid. After four+ years of his presidency, they still rely on the tired line of , “Well that’s what Obama SAID he is going to do!!!”, as if that is supposed to end the debate”

See my post from Jeffrey Sachs at 9:22 for more on the cognitive dissonance.

One of the main reasons Obama gets away with that is that he has faithful defenders among his liberal supporters, in places like MSNBC for ex., who can’t see the historical forest for the moment-to-moment trees.

Union

February 28th, 2013
9:29 am

@williebkind.. i watched that interview last night.. that was funny.. morgan seemed like he was a little amped up..

Redcoat

February 28th, 2013
9:30 am

Does anybody really know what is real?…….what a game of misconception and deception going on from both sides.

UNCLE SAMANTHA

February 28th, 2013
9:30 am

Fred ™

February 28th, 2013
9:19 am
Oh and dB? I disagree that we can’t have cuts in programs. There is waste in EVERY program out there. While I would bet at LEAST 15% is waste, you of course can’t go and cut 15% from every program because you wouldn’t be getting the waste.

But there are common sense cuts that can be made just like there are common sense tax raises that can be made. If I am reading you correctly, you maintain that NOTHING can be cut. That is as unrealistic as saying NO new taxes or tax increases will solve our problems. We need both increases and cuts.

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Fred, are you trying to say that the GAO reports that show areas programs can be cut and programs need to be increased but to but based on detailed accounting and effectiveness analysis means that its not CUTS OR INCREASE…………. but a more TARGETED APPROACH?

That can’t be done! Can it?

Jay

February 28th, 2013
9:31 am

” he will talk a good game of cuts … but they will somehow never happen

Then how do you explain this chart, Parrot:

http://blogs.ajc.com/jay-bookman-blog/2013/02/13/so-this-is-obamas-fault/

Get Real

February 28th, 2013
9:32 am

Obama already has gotten his revenue Jay, now is the time for “real cuts”. BTW, I believe the public is finely wising up to the Campaigner-in-Chief especially with all the theatrical scare tactics that have been going on over the last 2-3 weeks… the well is running dry on public stupidity which is bad for your pal Obama

Simple Truths

February 28th, 2013
9:32 am

How many GSA Las Vegas benders need to be cancelled to cut the $85 Billion?

http://news.yahoo.com/more-questions-set-agencys-823k-vegas-parties-115824357.html

JF McNamara

February 28th, 2013
9:32 am

At this point, I don’t really care about the outcome. I just want this to be the last “made for TV” crisis.

Cosby

February 28th, 2013
9:32 am

Yawn….people support….but wait, only 550 perople were interviewed…damn what a sampling…the totally dumb thing is this is less than 2% ot the spending…less than 2%…it is similar to what I heard on the Sunday talk shows when the idiot from Maryland kept talikg about a balanced approached…that is we will not increase spending by 20%, but increase spending by 10% and then increase taxes to pay for it…conclusion..spending will not be cut and taxes will go up – for everyone. As for the programs to be cut…according to Jay only “The Poor” will pay the price…I am so sick and tired of hearing this lame excuse…first..most programs were not originally designed to be a life long take, but a short term cushion…second, there is so much fraud in them that – the old adage – you have a privalege, you abuse it, you loose it – and how about cutting stuff in the elite DC crowd…starting with grounding Air Force One and telling the King he needs to stay in the office and actually work in lieu of playing community oprganizer…last but not least, I understand that the king, Boehner, the Prince, the Princess and Mcconnel will be meeting tomorrow….just look at that picture and it is enough to make one throw up..if that is the best one has to offer for running the USA,. take the damn flag down and surrender…and how about the nut job in Gwinnett county yeasterday the community organizer saying punish business…shame the news even reported his stupidity..but then the news media loves community organizers….the USA the biggest third world country with bafoons running it with the biggest being the King…sad very sad!!!!!!

Thomas heyward Jr

February 28th, 2013
9:33 am

GAULT…………….baby …………GAULT.
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lol

UNCLE SAMANTHA

February 28th, 2013
9:33 am

OH THOSE DOGGONE FACTS!!!!!!!! MAKE A LIBERAL SCREAM

WHITE HOUSE DOESN’T AGREE WITH YOU………. EVEN PREPPED THEIR OWN FOR NOT VOTING FOR IT…………. CRAZY ISN’T IT

The White House sought to provide cover for Democrats to vote against the Obama budget resolution before the vote, arguing the resolution offered by Sen. Jeff Sessions (R-Ala.) was different from Obama’s budget because it did not include policy report language.

Democrats made the same point on the floor Wednesday in explaining their votes.

Read more: http://thehill.com/blogs/floor-action/senate/227857-senate-rejects-obama-budget-in-99-0-vote/#ixzz2MCfR28eH
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Steve

February 28th, 2013
9:33 am

Wow, same $%it, different day, boring boring boring boring. None of the yapping in here can change the fact that most Americans are blaming the GOP in Congress for this mess.

Sorry.

alittlecommonsense

February 28th, 2013
9:36 am

I don’t get your point Hussein. Are you trying to say the Republican bill would not have stopped the sequester, or that it had things in it that you don’t think should have been there?

Republicans are at least doing something -
http://www.federaltimes.com/article/20120913/DEPARTMENTS01/309130001/Republican-backed-sequestration-bill-passes-House-unlikely-go-further

All I see is Dems doing is making hyper-partisan speeches to ensure Republicans get blamed for whatever happens. I don’t see that they have introduced any serious legislation that even the democratic Senate would pass.

Steve

February 28th, 2013
9:36 am

Just like you Einstein’s thought Romney would win, LOL… (why do you come in here and embarrass yourself day after day after day):

New poll: Two-thirds say GOP puts party before country

Just 29% of Americans polled have a positive view of the Republican Party, and 46% have a negative view.

64% of respondents say Republicans are pushing partisanship over national unity. Only 22 % think the GOP is advocating a unified approach.

Aquagirl

February 28th, 2013
9:37 am

Can anyone remember Laura Bush taking her daughters on million dollar vacations in the eight years she was the first lady? No?

Well, yes, but I was reading more than the Drudge report so I can see how you missed those trips. They were nothing to freak out over, some family vacations and some informal diplomacy to reinforce her husband’s policies. Pretty standard stuff for a First Lady.

Thomas heyward Jr

February 28th, 2013
9:37 am

•If you can get arrested for hunting or fishing without a license, but not for being in the country illegally … you might live in a country founded by geniuses but run by idiots.
•If you have to get your parents’ permission to go on a field trip or take an aspirin in school, but not to get an abortion … you might live in a country founded by geniuses but run by idiots.
•If the only school curriculum allowed to explain how we got here is evolution, but the government stops a $15 million construction project to keep a rare spider from evolving to extinction … you might live in a country founded by geniuses but run by idiots.
•If you have to show identification to board an airplane, cash a check, buy liquor, or check out a library book, but not to vote who runs the government … you might live in a country founded by geniuses but run by idiots.
•If the government wants to ban stable, law-abiding citizens from owning gun magazines with more than ten rounds, but gives 20 F-16 fighter jets to the crazy new leaders in Egypt … you might live in a country founded by geniuses but run by idiots.

Mike

February 28th, 2013
9:38 am

Funny how when talking to a group of business leaders, who knew better, Obama downplayed the effects of what will happen if these cuts actually start taking place. It’s like he is two different people depending on who is talking to. He knew these guys were smarter than him about what this would mean, so he talked about it calmly and rationally and said the effects would be slow and sometimes unnoticeable. When he’s talking to the “worker bees, on the other hand, he tries to scare them to death. He really is a great politician.

Steve

February 28th, 2013
9:38 am

Poll: Obama Leads GOP In Public Opinion

49% blame the Republicans for the Sequester, 31% (yep, Confederate White men) blame Obama

http://www.people-press.org/files/2013/02/2-27-13-1-update.png

JohnnyReb

February 28th, 2013
9:38 am

Fred ™

February 28th, 2013
8:50 am

JohnnyReb

February 28th, 2013
8:38 am

Fred – I’m not your personal research assistant. Look it up yourself.
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I knew that or something similar would be your response. It’s ALWAYS what liars say when they cant’ substantiate their wild assed claims.
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Fred, seems you believe someone guilty until proven innocent. I thought you were a Liberal?

Steve

February 28th, 2013
9:39 am

So, yap away…nobody cares

Fred ™

February 28th, 2013
9:39 am

Fred, are you trying to say that the GAO reports that show areas programs can be cut and programs need to be increased but to but based on detailed accounting and effectiveness analysis means that its not CUTS OR INCREASE…………. but a more TARGETED APPROACH?

That can’t be done! Can it?
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I don’t’ quite understand what you are saying Samantha. That some programs need to be cut and some increased is a given. Hell some programs need to be done away with altogether. Also some tax increases are needed.

I’m not being deliberately obtuse, I really don’t get your point.

mm

February 28th, 2013
9:41 am

“Obama already has gotten his revenue Jay”

For some reason, the GOP just cannot comprehend the fact that they are the minority.

Arms Akimbo

February 28th, 2013
9:41 am

I wonder how many layoffs could be avoided if Obama were to stop the Navy requirement of buying $27 per gallon biodiesel in a $4 market? I guess it is more important to pursue the Energy dept.’s green program than to employ Americans.

Fred ™

February 28th, 2013
9:44 am

Fred, seems you believe someone guilty until proven innocent. I thought you were a Liberal?

Only to a jackass am I a liberal. Only to someone who thinks that anyone who doesn’t walk lock step with the foxbot lies or Rush Limbaugh lies am I a liberal.

As usual you actually DIDN’T think, you spouted. I’m an independent. I’m one of the thinking people who decide the election while you brainless far left nutcases and far right nutcases vote down stupid party lines. You use silly one size fits all labels to dehumanize those who don’t subscribe to your brand of lunacy. That is why you fail.

As I said yesterday, Obama didn’t win because people want free stuff, he won because your party ideas SUCK. Until you realize that you will continue to be marginalized……….

Well until the Democrats get as stupidly arrogant and filled with their own dookey as the Republicans currently are. I’m betting that will happen before the Republicans change their suicide course………

UNCLE SAMANTHA

February 28th, 2013
9:46 am

Fred ™

February 28th, 2013
9:39 am
Fred, are you trying to say that the GAO reports that show areas programs can be cut and programs need to be increased but to but based on detailed accounting and effectiveness analysis means that its not CUTS OR INCREASE…………. but a more TARGETED APPROACH?

That can’t be done! Can it?
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I don’t’ quite understand what you are saying Samantha. That some programs need to be cut and some increased is a given. Hell some programs need to be done away with altogether. Also some tax increases are needed.

I’m not being deliberately obtuse, I really don’t get your point.

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Fred,
Was poking fun at the left extremist (increase taxes/ increase spending ONLY) and the right extremist (lower taxes / increase defense / cut everything else)

Obviously your approach is the most common sense and is done in the real world…… unfortunately DC and its 2 parties and followers don’t live in the real world.

OedipusTax

February 28th, 2013
9:47 am

Yes, a real yawner for Jay Bookman and other liberals. Don’t give a damn about future generations. Only care about massaging their own ego, spending other peoples’ money, and demanding more from government. All this, while the huge evil of today, borrowing from the future, is treated as a real yawner. Selfish liberalism, selfish socialism, is leading us to hell, while Jay Bookman yawns. Typical of what liberals think is compassion and love, while in reality, if the devil made a plan to destroy this country, Jay Bookman would yawn about that too.

Joe Hussein Mama

February 28th, 2013
9:48 am

alittlecommonsense — “I don’t get your point Hussein. Are you trying to say the Republican bill would not have stopped the sequester, or that it had things in it that you don’t think should have been there?”

My point is quite simple, which makes me wonder why you’re not getting it. Here, let me walk you through it.

1) Republicans propose ‘compromise’ legislation to halt the sequester and offer alternative package of cuts and tax changes.

2) Republicans lard up their ‘compromise’ legislation with bullspit provisions (e.g. malpractice award caps) that have nothing whatsoever to do with taxation, government spending OR the budget, but which will look good to their base and which will completely stink to Democrats.

3) Predictably, Democrats refuse to vote for tainted Republican ‘compromise’ legislation that wasn’t really a ‘compromise’ at all.

4) Republicans whine that Democrats, when offered a bite of the GOP Sh1t Sandwich, wouldn’t even take a bite.

5) Republican voters like you swallow the whole GOP narrative of “Republicans are at least doing something” when the entire Republican objective — from the outset — was simply to propose a ‘compromise’ package that was certain to fail and which wasn’t even a ‘compromise’ from the outset.

Does that make it more clear?

Next time, try leaving out the party-friendly red meat like the malpractice award caps (and I apply this to both sides) and see if you can cobble together more cooperation.

Simple Truths

February 28th, 2013
9:48 am

Donovan

February 28th, 2013
9:51 am

What happens when children are denied candy in a grocery store checkout line? They whine and cry about it. This is the same comparison with big spending Democrats and the likes of Luckovich.

You Democrats have no one else to blame but yourselves for the spending mess and the ramifications of such irresponsibility. Instead of throwing tantrums about being denied more candy, grow up and take the bitter pill of cost cutting. Your governing style once again has left you with disastrous results. Your national credit card is maxed out. Your spending habits are sinfully ruinous. Your over indulgence is morbid.

How are you represented in your crusade now? You have Jay Bookman propping up a water carrying DNC Luckovich illustrating the GOP as the bad guy trying to save this country and you have a Marxist president whose sequestration idea back firing on him.

Way to go libs. Keep spending and keep taxing.

Joe Hussein Mama

February 28th, 2013
9:51 am

alitlecommonsense, just so you know, the bill you referred to in your 9:36 doesn’t apply. Congressman Allen West proposed it, which meant that if it didn’t pass by the end of the LAST Congress, then it died. Your ‘at least they were doing something’ applies to *last* year, not this year.

All unpassed business left in either chamber expired on 3 JAN, when the new Congress was sworn in and seated. That includes West’s proposal.

DannyX

February 28th, 2013
9:52 am

“Poll: Obama Leads GOP In Public Opinion”

You know things are bad for the Republicans when they can’t even come up with one of their unskewed polls showing strong support for the Republican position.

I think I’ll be nice and help my Republican friends out. Maybe Drudge can pick it up.

BREAKING: Poll Finds Strong Support For Republican Sequester Plan.

Results from Republican Fantasy Polls

Question: Do you favor the plan from our commie/socialist evil President, or the plan from our freedom loving patriotic Republicans?

Favor Republican plan…88%
Favor Oblama’s plan…3%
Don’t know…9%

JohnnyReb

February 28th, 2013
9:52 am

So Fred, you consider yourself an independent. One of those people who don’t have the guts to plant themselves on one side or the other. You know, people that let the wind blow them around. People who are afraid of being criticized for their positions on things.

I suspect you are like a blue dog democrat – all BS when it comes to having any conservative roots.

Now, I suggest you ignore this post and not blow your top. Don’t want to get banned again. Besides, I have to do some work. I can’t stay on here all day like some.

Joe Hussein Mama

February 28th, 2013
9:54 am

J. Reb — “Fred, seems you believe someone guilty until proven innocent. I thought you were a Liberal?”

If you make an assertion, it’s incumbent upon *you* to prove that assertion when asked.

Here’s an example. I am the King of Neptune. I don’t have to prove it. Look it up if you don’t believe me, as I am not your research assistant.

See how that works?

St Simons - he-ne-ha

February 28th, 2013
9:55 am

2 out of 3 ‘merkuns correctly understand who is attempting to bring
down a govt, destroy an economy, commit economic terrorism,
to preserve a horribly spectacularly failed ideology.

and all the AM radio screeching in da world won’t change that mon.

Get used to that ratio, cons. Adapt, dinosaurs, etc..

Brosephus™ - Always bet on Black.

February 28th, 2013
9:56 am

Doggone: Well..they already abdicated on their responsibility to declare war, when W was President. So why NOT give away another Constitutional power?

You have a point there….

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Stevie Ray: Are you suggesting that BO simply sit tight and allow congress to handle so he can Monday morning quarter back in terms of his most successful blame game?

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I get the impression (wrongly perhaps) that your footing holding Congress responsible for lack of leadership and functionality is paramount. I don’t disagree wholly but president holds veto power and can certainly step up and make the most of this opportunity he has to show public he is not completely DEM homer and is really interested in doing right by us. Lead a deal.

No, Obama should be leading the Executive Branch by ensuring that the legislation that Congress passed and he signed gets implemented to the letter of the law. By the Constitution, that is his job responsibility. I don’t care for all the theatrics and such, but that’s what politicians do.

The people with the power to stop this is Congress, not Obama. Obama shouldn’t have to lead Congress to take a dump. That’s not how our government is set up. You, and others who think that Obama needs to show leadership, need to go back and take Civics 101. Obama has nothing to do with Congress other than signing or vetoing legislation.

That’s my point, my opinion, and nothing or nobody will change it. I give a rat’s ass less who’s “fault” it is. There’s one corrective course spelled out by the Constitution. The ball is currently in the hands of the House. It’s all up to them how this turns out.

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JLK2: Use of “force” (an obama favorite) is not leadership. That’s the problem. He has zero people skills.

And logic flys right over your head. Obama has no authority in the Legislative Branch. How can one lead where one does not belong? Obama’s Constitutional authority is to lead the Executive Branch. Congress has their own established leadership. Why in the hell won’t they lead? Why in the hell won’t you and others bitch about them not leading?

Joe Hussein Mama

February 28th, 2013
9:56 am

A. Akimbo — “I wonder how many layoffs could be avoided if Obama were to stop the Navy requirement of buying $27 per gallon biodiesel in a $4 market? I guess it is more important to pursue the Energy dept.’s green program than to employ Americans.”

Imagine how much money the Air Force wasted in developing and buying stealth fighters and bombers when there were perfectly good non-stealth fighters and bombers already available.

:roll:

Doggone/GA

February 28th, 2013
9:56 am

“One of those people who don’t have the guts to plant themselves on one side or the other – See more at: http://blogs.ajc.com/jay-bookman-blog/2013/02/28/yawn-yet-another-budget-crisis-looms/?cp=2#comment-1246127

Nope. Most intelligent people ARE “on one side of the other” … when a bill is good for the country they’re for it. When a bill is bad for the country they’re against it.

Please note: I said “bill” – NOT PARTY

Checking in after the dictator gets another 4 years

February 28th, 2013
9:58 am

Obama’s biggest problem. He hates the half of the country that didn’t vote for him ( feeling is mutual)………..But he needs their damn money……..all he can get. Watching this white house daily is borderline SNL skit material. Never seen blackmail so out in the open from an administration before. It’s normally done behind closed doors. It’s comical.

JohnnyReb

February 28th, 2013
9:59 am

Fred and JHM – I actually can’t post anything that proves the 40% receivng free cell phones don’t qualify. I heard it in the context of Rove’s suggestion on giving agency heads the authority to move money around and it was within that same post I stated it. It may or may not be factual, but more than one talking head has stated it. Yes, they are Right talking heads, but so am I.

DannyX

February 28th, 2013
9:59 am

“You Democrats have no one else to blame but yourselves for the spending mess and the ramifications of such irresponsibility.”

Hey Donovan, how do the Republicans plan on paying for their 2 unfunded wars? The unfunded socialist Medicare Part D drug plan? The unfunded Dept of Homeland Security? The massive post 9-11 defense spending increases? The earmark spending spree? All washed down with massive tax cuts.

Does the Republican sequester plan deal with theses issues?

Joe Hussein Mama

February 28th, 2013
10:00 am

Checking in — “Obama’s biggest problem. He hates the half of the country that didn’t vote for him ( feeling is mutual)………..”

Actually, the truth is that it’s Romney who hates those Americans who didn’t vote for him. We have it on tape.

And the notion that President Obama hates those who didn’t vote for him? I suspect your source for that is the voices in your head, when they’re not telling you to leap off tall buildings.

Aquagirl

February 28th, 2013
10:01 am

Besides, I have to do some work.

What kind of career pays so much for your expertise in passive-aggressive mincing? Harem Eunuch?

Checking in after the dictator gets another 4 years

February 28th, 2013
10:01 am

He’s printing 85 billion of worthless money a month, Just double it one month. Problem solved.

Joe Hussein Mama

February 28th, 2013
10:01 am

J. Reb — “Fred and JHM – I actually can’t post anything that proves”

(SNIP)

That’s right, you can’t.

weetamoe

February 28th, 2013
10:03 am

And the Obama (vote for revenge) bullying goes on. Gonna take my aircraft carrier and go home. Tell that mean old Bob Woodward we’ll *take care of him* if he keeps on reporting the facts .Lanny Davis (you have some very vicious people working for you Mr President) says *they threatened me, too. They do not like facts.* So what we see here from Luckovich is once again (*ooh some black kids sat next to my kids and we were so scared*) how pandering to power can eventually become cowardice.

Peadawg

February 28th, 2013
10:03 am

Fred ™
February 28th, 2013
9:44 am

VERY well said!

*polite gold clap*

Corbin Sharpe. I think, therefore I am...I think.

February 28th, 2013
10:03 am

Joe Hussein Mama

February 28th, 2013
9:48 am

Excellent narration. Well done.

Checking in after the dictator gets another 4 years

February 28th, 2013
10:04 am

How did Woodward get off the reservation? He better look under his car before he starts it. State run media in shock as one of theirs goes rogue. Maybe some more will report the train wreck going on.

JohnnyReb

February 28th, 2013
10:04 am

Obama believes in radical black liberation theology and that redistribution will help fix all the wrongs he perceives to have been committed against blacks.

There is it, pure and simple. All one has to do is look at what he is doing. If he had inherieted a budget surplus, he would be pushing reparations.

Scooter

February 28th, 2013
10:05 am

Revenue increases were just granted after the President said there would be three dollars in cuts for every dollar of rev… tax increases. If I’m not mistaken, there were no corresponding spending cuts resulting from the tax increase. Now, he is offering two to one. Look, the man changed nothing in Chicago’s dirty political machine and seems to have brought it to the nation.

Oh yeah, I got poll that shows children don’t like to have their candy taken away. It even shows a majority of older more mature children still want to retain their candy.

Fred ™

February 28th, 2013
10:05 am

So Fred, you consider yourself an independent. One of those people who don’t have the guts to plant themselves on one side or the other. You know, people that let the wind blow them around. People who are afraid of being criticized for their positions on things. – See more at: http://blogs.ajc.com/jay-bookman-blog/2013/02/28/yawn-yet-another-budget-crisis-looms/?cp=2#comment-1246156

Ah so THAT is what you call having the ability to think for yourself, and not being a mindless FOXBOT, guts.

Just because I’m not so stupid as to let someone think for me I’m guttless? Really? How stupid is THAT? I mean you have made some really silly accusations in my time here, but that one beats them all. You mindlessly follow the lead dog in a party and see nothing but the smelly hole of the dog in front of you because you can’t think for yourself and I’M the gutless one? LOL I stand up for what is right. I make up my OWN mind on issues pal. I smell FRESH air, not passed gas.

I’m a wolf son, not a beaten pack dog. You revealed your weakness there more than any other time. You showed us all exactly WHY the scare tactics of talk radio work on the courage-challenged folks such as yourself. You be a pack animal pal, I’ll be ME.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NW63lS9_MW4&list=PLAAB311D201999A9F&index=4

Joe Hussein Mama

February 28th, 2013
10:06 am

J. Reb — “Obama believes in radical black liberation theology”

Can a picture of the President with a bone in his nose be far behind? :roll:

JohnnyReb

February 28th, 2013
10:07 am

Aquagirl

February 28th, 2013
10:01 am

Besides, I have to do some work.

What kind of career pays so much for your expertise in passive-aggressive mincing? Harem Eunuch?
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This little water girl is yet another example of you not knowing _hit from shinola.

I work for myself now, my second career with both being quite successful enough to put me in that group you so love to hate.

Redcoat

February 28th, 2013
10:07 am

and all those accounting tricks and redefining terms that goes on……….constant moving targets

0311/8541/5811/1811/1801

February 28th, 2013
10:07 am

“SEQUESTERGATE”

What did the President propose and when did he propose it !

Fred ™

February 28th, 2013
10:08 am

Thought you had to go “work” JReb. Lying AGAIN?

Checking in after the dictator gets another 4 years

February 28th, 2013
10:08 am

Detroit and Chicago…..Both a train wreck. Both run by Dems forever…….That’s your future America with that thinking and management. Not a con in site with their finger prints on those two places.

JohnnyReb

February 28th, 2013
10:09 am

Joe Hussein Mama

February 28th, 2013
10:06 am

J. Reb — “Obama believes in radical black liberation theology”

Can a picture of the President with a bone in his nose be far behind?

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Not necessary. Anyone who has two grey cells to rub together knows it and that he spent 20 years firming it up listening to Jeremiah.

Fred ™

February 28th, 2013
10:09 am

UNCLE SAMANTHA: I got ya. Unfortunately here it’s hard to tell what is said in satire and what is said in ignorance. I’m as guilty as everyone else of both lol.

0311/8541/5811/1811/1801

February 28th, 2013
10:10 am

Well, well ……….. what have we here this morning? Hey Jay, how about asking Luckovich to do a cartoon of Obama whispering threats into Woodward’s ear. That would be cute !!!

WATERGATE HERO MEETS CHICAGOL-THUG POLITICS

“Veteran journalist Bob Woodward is embroiled in an extraordinary public clash with the White House over his reporting on the sequester.

Woodward has been making the rounds to cable TV and print outlets accusing a “very senior person” in the administration of threatening him last week ahead of an op-ed he later published in the Washington Post attributing the idea for the automatic spending cuts to President Obama.

“It was said very clearly: ‘you will regret doing this,’” Woodward told CNN. “I’m not going to say [who], a very senior person. It makes me very uncomfortable to have the White House telling reporters you’re going to regret doing something you believe in.”

JohnnyReb

February 28th, 2013
10:11 am

Fred ™

February 28th, 2013
10:08 am

Thought you had to go “work” JReb. Lying AGAIN?
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No Fred, just stretching it. I do love you guys sooo much its difficult to break away.

Redcoat

February 28th, 2013
10:11 am

and such great stories they tell, just like Hollywood makes up……..

Checking in after the dictator gets another 4 years

February 28th, 2013
10:12 am

Woodard heard to be calling all the concrete companies in the DC area where their pours are happening as to avoid those places.

Lord Help Us

February 28th, 2013
10:12 am

‘Anyone who has two grey cells to rub together knows it and that he spent 20 years firming it up listening to Jeremiah.’

And…if you have more than two ‘grey cells to rub together’ you do not qualify as part of the GOP base…

AmericaShrugged

February 28th, 2013
10:12 am

70% will come from revenue increases, less loopholes and higher rates for the evil rich, their estates, and the evil corporations, and eliminating the cap on SS taxes. The other 30% comes from spending cuts, primarily defense spending. Sounds wonderful but I don’t see how the math works out. The projected totals are a $5.6T deficit reduction over ten year but we’re currently running about $12-13T over ten years and Medicare, Mediciad, and SS are projected to add many more trillions o the debt if benefits aren’t reduced.

St Simons - he-ne-ha

February 28th, 2013
10:13 am

ah, Joe’s here –
Joe, in your formidable statistician hat, do you think
it is possible to calculate the point (some data pt, Idk, maybe nat’l
approval rating) at which the Republicans can no longer gerrymander
themselves disproportionate false power? I read where some guy
anonymously named ‘gary’ at kos or somewhere was attempting
to find that point.
His thesis was, at that point the pahhty would cease to affect any
policy, and would disintegrate quickly thereafter.
Do you think it’s possible to find that number?

TaxPayer

February 28th, 2013
10:13 am

Stick with your unskewed polling results, cons. After all, they’ve served us so well up ’til now. Don’t change a thing. :lol:

weetamoe

February 28th, 2013
10:14 am

But of course two wars, medicare prescription, und so wieder, aber New York Times headlines:
2005-Sharp rise in tax revenue to pare US deficit
2006-Surprising jump in tax revenue is curbing deficit
I wonder if the congress that came to power at the beginning of 2007 had anything at all to do with the economy. Like, since it is not Obama’s fault, because it is the fault of congress… because but the republican house, not the democrat senate…. because Fox… because shut up.

Fred ™

February 28th, 2013
10:15 am

No Fred, just stretching it. I do love you guys sooo much its difficult to break away.

Ah that’s so sweet. We have a soft spot for you as well……………. :mrgreen:

williebkind

February 28th, 2013
10:15 am

“No, Obama should be leading the Executive Branch by ensuring that the legislation that Congress passed and he signed gets implemented to the letter of the law.”

WAIT! HOLD IT! Did not THE KING tell the DOJ not to enforce the immigration laws? Obama the King has picks and chooses to enforce the laws that he wants and thinks American should follow–to hell with that pesky little constitution.

Brosephus™ - Always bet on Black.

February 28th, 2013
10:16 am

Obama believes in radical black liberation theology and that redistribution will help fix all the wrongs he perceives to have been committed against blacks.

“When you have to lie to make a point, you don’t have a point to make.”
–Doggone Jefferson

“When you’re going to make sh*t up, there’s no need to be half-assed about it.”
–Kamchak Jefferson

:roll:

Checking in after the dictator gets another 4 years

February 28th, 2013
10:16 am

After 4 years and a few weeks……………We learn Obama IS a thug

kayaker 71

February 28th, 2013
10:17 am

So, now the Bozo propaganda machine is again trying to blame Republicans for what was an original Bozo idea…… the sequestor. He initially said, that he would veto any legislation that would stand in its way then flip flopped and said that he would not support it. Democrats want additional taxes added to the mix, Republicans do not. We are not spending any less this year than last, eventually more. This sequestor is just a bunch of smoke and mirrors where money gets shuffled around between one source and another and through a bit of creative accounting, the mix returns to normal, minus the bullsh*t, However, Bozo can’t lose an opportunity to try to make the Republicans the goat in all of this. Republicans want dirty air and dirty water. Republicans don’t like women. Republicans want to take away your Medicare and Social Security. It never ends. Never pass up a crisis. Use it for all it is worth.

Joe Hussein Mama

February 28th, 2013
10:17 am

J. Reb — “Not necessary. Anyone who has two grey cells to rub together knows it”

Just FYI, “anyone knows it” isn’t proof of anything. Then again, with your failure to apprehend what actually constitutes ‘proving’ something, your lame reply isn’t surprising.

“and that he spent 20 years firming it up listening to Jeremiah.”

Oh, yes, the standard GOP calculus; to wit Associating with Objectionable Person X leads inexorably to 100% Agreement with Objectionable Person X’s Distasteful Opinion Y, meaning that if you hang out with someone cons don’t like, you automatically must agree with everything negative that person ever said or did.

You know, J. Reb, Operant Conditioning predicts this sort of behavior from cons. If you teach a rat to press a lever for food pellets and then take the food away, the rat will *increase* the frequency of its lever-pressing behavior.

At this point, y’all still haven’t figured out that the food pellets stopped coming sometime around the summer of 2008.

Redcoat

February 28th, 2013
10:17 am

Democrats/Liberals have no interest in what Bob Woodward is saying……….

Fred ™

February 28th, 2013
10:18 am

Checking in after the dictator gets another 4 years

February 28th, 2013
10:16 am

After 4 years and a few weeks……………We learn Obama IS a thug
+++++++++++++++++++++++++

Wow and it only took us 1 post to know you were a jackass little bit truth challenged………..

Brosephus™ - Always bet on Black.

February 28th, 2013
10:19 am

JHM

You know that when Obama moved into the White House, he had all the presidential portraits put in storage and put up posters of the Original Black Panther Party, Public Enemy, Boogie Down Productions, X-Clan, and all that other radical “Black” stuff.

:)

Doggone/GA

February 28th, 2013
10:19 am

‘Anyone who has two grey cells to rub together knows it and that he spent 20 years firming it up listening to Jeremiah.’ – See more at: http://blogs.ajc.com/jay-bookman-blog/2013/02/28/yawn-yet-another-budget-crisis-looms/?cp=2#comment-1246169

But fortunately, most of us have MORE than 2 brain cells AND know how to use them.

Checking in after the dictator gets another 4 years

February 28th, 2013
10:19 am

How much extra cash into the treasury did the payroll tax break expiring dump into Washington? How many hundreds of millions?

JamVet

February 28th, 2013
10:20 am

Luckovich nailed you Republicans today!

WHY do you hate Uncle Sam? And when did this cancer matastasize in you neocons?