Sadly, the federal Voting Rights Act still has work to do
The federal Voting Rights Act was passed in 1965, in the aftermath of a bloody assault on voting-rights protesters in Selma, Ala.. The law remains one of the crowning achievements of the civil rights movement, but almost 50 years later, conservatives argue that important provisions of that law have outlived their usefulness.
There’s no question that the nation as a whole, and the South in particular, has made enormous strides over the past half century. Every American can take pride in those hard-won improvements. But has discrimination against minority voters in Georgia and other states disappeared to the point that federal intervention into state and local elections is no longer justified?
Ten years ago, I might have said yes. Not today. Passage of Georgia’s voter ID law back in 2005, and the legal battle that followed, changed my mind about the relevance of the Voting Rights Act, proving that it remains a necessary part of American law.
Today, Georgia’s voter ID law is cited by many conservatives and even some liberals as a national model. I have come to agree. While the Georgia law requires that a government-issued photo ID be presented when voting, it also attempts to ensure that voter identification is easy to obtain and is free for those who can’t afford it. As a result of that balance, there is little evidence that Georgia’s law has reduced minority participation.
However, that was not the case when the law was first passed. The initial bill that became law in 2005 made little attempt to make voter ID easily obtainable. It charged citizens $20 to $35 to obtain the necessary ID, which for poorer Americans can be a significant outlay of cash and might dissuade them from voting. And it gave voters no time to prepare for the law’s requirements.
That’s where the Voting Rights Act proved its merit. Lawsuits were filed, and federal judges immediately blocked Georgia’s voter ID law, ruling that it was an illegal effort to curtail minority voting. In 2006, the Georgia Legislature took the hint, rescinding its earlier law and replacing it with a much-improved bill. The new law offered voter identification for free, and required every Georgia county to issue such ID, removing the need for voters to travel long distances to obtain the document. The state also committed to a broad education effort to ensure that voters wouldn’t be surprised by the new law when they showed up at their precincts.
With those important improvements, federal courts upheld the new law. But those necessary, laudable improvements would not have taken place without the Voting Rights Act.
The law continues to prove itself necessary. In the midst of the heated 2012 campaign, a federal judge in Texas blocked that state’s new voter ID law, ruling that if put into effect the law would almost certainly lower minority participation. In that ruling, the judge specifically criticized the Texas law for not including safeguards contained in Georgia law.
In Florida last year, Republican state officials attempted to dramatically reduce early voting, an option that minority voters rely upon heavily. A federal appeals court used Section 5 of the Voting Rights Act to block that move, noting that “a dramatic reduction in the form of voting that is disproportionately used by African-Americans would make it materially more difficult for some minority voters to cast a ballot.”
And last year, a three-judge appellate panel approved South Carolina’s new voter ID law for use in 2013 and thereafter, again citing Georgia’s landmark law as a standard. But Judge John W. Bates — an appointee of President George W. Bush — thought it important to note that without the specter of federal oversight, South Carolina legislators would have passed a law that was much more unfair.
“… one cannot doubt the vital function that Section 5 of the Voting Rights Act has played here,” Bates wrote. “Without the review process under the Voting Rights Act, South Carolina’s voter photo ID law certainly would have been more restrictive. Rather, the history of (the South Carolina law) demonstrates the continuing utility of Section 5 of the Voting Rights Act in deterring problematic, and hence encouraging non-discriminatory, changes in state and local voting laws.”
In Washington today, nine justices of the U.S. Supreme Court will hear arguments on whether Section 5 remains relevant. All-too-recent history proves that it is relevant indeed.
– Jay Bookman
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godless heathen - owner of many things he does not need
February 27th, 2013
7:12 am
Good point, Mr. Bookman. Georgia’s law is reasonable.
the form of voting that is disproportionately used by African-Americans
Anyone got an opinion as to why?
Corbin Sharpe. I think, therefore I am...I think.
February 27th, 2013
7:14 am
Why is it that the one side of our political experiment, the one that has no answers to give, no fair choices to to choose from and no idea how to do anything except pass anti abortion legislation, feel they have to manipulate the voting laws? Oh…wait.
Li'l Aynie
February 27th, 2013
7:15 am
Sadly, the Voting Rights Act does not address the gerrymandering of political districts.
Legislators of both political parties gerrymander. Republicans, motivated by desperation, do it with greater skill and less compunction.
Doggone/GA
February 27th, 2013
7:16 am
“Anyone got an opinion as to why?”
According to the reports I heard at the time, early voting gives voters more flexibility to work in their voting around their jobs and families, and because it means – basically – no lines for waiting to vote, it’s quicker.
Doggone/GA
February 27th, 2013
7:17 am
“Sadly, the Voting Rights Act does not address the gerrymandering of political districts. – See more at: http://blogs.ajc.com/jay-bookman-blog/2013/02/27/sadly-the-federal-voting-rights-act-still-has-work-to-do/?cp=1#comment-1244676”
Gerrymandering does not affect the ability or right of voters TO vote…which is why it’s not addressed by the VRA
Jay
February 27th, 2013
7:26 am
“Sadly, the Voting Rights Act does not address the gerrymandering of political districts.”
Actually, the VRA has been used to justify and encourage gerrymandering, which is one reason I was once ready to rewrite it at the very least. In Georgia, for example, it has been used to justify “bleaching” legislative and congressional districts, packing some districts with white voters and other districts with black voters, supposedly to give black politicians a chance at victory.
Granny Godzilla
February 27th, 2013
7:31 am
Yes, the Voting Rights Act still has work to to BUT…
I am hoping that President Obama’s comments regarding long lines at the polls
becomes a push for a NEW Voting Rights Act.
Standardize the process for national elections across the board.
Universal suffrage for American citizens. Address the long lines, improve the security of
absentee voting, end gerrymandering, look at e-voting and any and all options that would bring more
Americans to the polls.
Let’s ALL get out the vote, without thought to political persuasion.
It’s the way America should work.
Mick
February 27th, 2013
7:35 am
After standing in line for 4 hours to vote this past election, it’s pretty obvious to me that there is still a hell of a lot more to do!
On another note, today is my b-day, they are not as much fun as they used to be but I’m at that all purposeful delineated age of 55. Still, my mind still thinks young but the body is not always on the same page. I went ice skating of all things when I was in tahoe a couple of months ago. Took three weeks to recover my lower limbs from three hours of gliding fancy.
Onward and upward, there is no reverse in this journey…
Granny Godzilla
February 27th, 2013
7:37 am
Mick
Happy Birthday!
55 is a great age, enjoy the strength and wisdom that come with all that experience!
Cherokee
February 27th, 2013
7:40 am
I’ve always wondered why Republicans are so anxious to restrict voting by Those People. A strrong party, one that was confident in their beliefs, would aggressively market themselves to everyone, instead of trying to limit the vote of people who don’t think like they do.
Doggone/GA
February 27th, 2013
7:41 am
Cherokee – you’ve answered your own question
Corbin Sharpe. I think, therefore I am...I think.
February 27th, 2013
7:43 am
Happy Birthday Mick….and may you have many more to come.
It’s funny, but I had my 66th a couple of weeks ago and I was thinking of a conversation my Mom and I had about age. That the time she was my age now. She said that until she looked in a mirror, she felt just like she did when she as 17. I told her that the answer to that problem then, was to get rid of all the mirrors. Except for my knee, I still feel pretty randy…and that will be taken care of this April…and my part of the house is now mirror free!
Life IS good! Like the bumper sticker says, “You can’t help getting older, but you don’t have to get old.”
Jerome Horwitz
February 27th, 2013
7:46 am
Happy B-Day Mick. Only as young/old as you feel. Keep being active. Played ice hockey at 55 and know a couple others that still play.
Doggone/GA
February 27th, 2013
7:47 am
“Except for my knee, I still feel pretty randy…and that will be taken care of this April…and my part of the house is now mirror free! – See more at: http://blogs.ajc.com/jay-bookman-blog/2013/02/27/sadly-the-federal-voting-rights-act-still-has-work-to-do/?cp=1#comment-1244686”
Corbin – I hope you mean the knee will be taken care of this April, and not the randiness!
Mick
February 27th, 2013
7:48 am
Thanks granny and corbin – to steal a line from you – a lot of you are some of the finest friends I’ve never physically known! I enjoy the give and take here, some of these commenters and opinionators are both a revelation and a hoot….yes that would be you bill orvis…
Doggone/GA
February 27th, 2013
7:49 am
Mick – Happy Birthday!
And on the subject of “hoots” – did you see Mama’s sign off manifesto last night?
Jerome Horwitz
February 27th, 2013
7:49 am
As to the topic at hand. As long as we have individuals who would strive to make it harder for citizens to vote we’ll need the power of Federal legislation. Waiting for our conservative bloggers to come out with the usual arguements how these voter ID laws are needed to curtial fraud while they continue to like absentee ballots which are the most fraudulent mechanism.
Corbin Sharpe. I think, therefore I am...I think.
February 27th, 2013
7:57 am
Doggone!
YES! The KNEE man, the KNEE!!!
Tom E Gunn
February 27th, 2013
7:58 am
This is another intrusion of the Federal government into states rights. Throw it out! Reconstruction is over! Even with the law, a poll worker admitted to voting multiple times. Throw it out!
Recon 0311 2533
February 27th, 2013
8:00 am
“a dramatic reduction in the form of voting that is disproportionately used by African-Americans would make it materially more difficult for some minority voters to cast a ballot.”
Actually limiting early voting makes it materially more difficult for Democrats to round up or otherwise bribe the uninformed voters and drive them to the polls.
Redneck Convert (R--and proud of it)
February 27th, 2013
8:00 am
Well, we need a voting rights act for White people. I ain’t seen a butt-whomping like we took last November since Shorty Duncan told Big Bill Zickafoose his wife was ugly. Must be the voting laws.
Have a good Hump Day everybody.
godless heathen - owner of many things he does not need
February 27th, 2013
8:01 am
According to the reports I heard at the time, early voting gives voters more flexibility to work in their voting around their jobs and families, and because it means – basically – no lines for waiting to vote, it’s quicker
According to BLS unemployment rate for whites is 7.2, for blacks it’s 13.8. (2012)
Cherokee
February 27th, 2013
8:03 am
Yeah I know Doggone.
Amazing to me though that cons don’t recognize the ditch they’re digging for themselves…
Granny Godzilla
February 27th, 2013
8:04 am
Tom E Gunn
February 27th, 2013
7:58 am
This is another intrusion of the Federal government into states rights. Throw it out! Reconstruction is over! Even with the law, a poll worker admitted to voting multiple times. Throw it out!
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OH MY GOD The Federal government wants to intrude on Federal elections!
snicker
Jerome Horwitz
February 27th, 2013
8:05 am
Recons remarks do nothing but underscore the need for Voter Rights Act. Rather than look for ways to make the country inclusive he makes the arguement to deny people the right to vote. Maybe the reason minorities need early voting is because their employers make it harder for them to get time off to vote.
bookman parrot
February 27th, 2013
8:06 am
there is no hope for you Jay and your sheep…
i’m jay crying and making up inuendo and generalizations
Partisay
February 27th, 2013
8:06 am
“This is another intrusion of the Federal government into states rights. Throw it out!”
Yeah..just like all those pesky civil rights laws! Throw em’ out. If individual states want to be racists, they should have the right!!
HDB
February 27th, 2013
8:07 am
Happy Birthday, Mick!
Now to the topic….
How long did it actually take for this nation to recognize the Constitutional rights of a minority to express themselves in the way that is supposed to be afforded to ALL of its citizens?? Sadly, we persist in seeing conservatives’ desire to suppress voting rights in order to maintain power. This has been done throughout history, be it whether the conservatives were Southern Democrats prior to 1964…or the GOP today!! It can not be left up to the states to ensure the voting rights afforded by the Constitution; federal oversight….particularly the Voting Rights Act…is needed now more than ever to alleviate the negative effect of the conservatives’ persistence of marginalization and suppression of the minority vote!
Ask yourself this question: What if the shoes were reversed? (Let’s see what happens when the present majority becomes the voting MINORITY!! Wonder will they be howling for the Constitutional protections to vote??)
Partisay
February 27th, 2013
8:08 am
“making up inuendo and generalizations”
Can you give us some examples?
Granny Godzilla
February 27th, 2013
8:09 am
Sheep eat parrots……with a nice chianti and fava beans…yummy
GT
February 27th, 2013
8:10 am
We are the generation of loopholes. We were brought up looking for them to get the advantage on someone else. We go around our elbow to do a business deal just so we don’t pay taxes, we dodged the draft by getting deferments, we pay credit agencies not to rate a bond correctly and we gerrymander to control something we have no right controlling and laugh about it in some smoke filled back room of a Washington bar. If you don’t protect your rights, and voting being one of the most precious, you will find plenty of people more than ready to take em away from you. Not foreign enemies ,but as George Bush himself said, right here is his own party he found some of his biggest enemies. Creepy people operating right in the open trying to steal this country from us, used car salesmen with liquor on their breath and a Bible under their arm. Until we get character in our leadership in the south, you better be making more laws not less.
Aquagirl
February 27th, 2013
8:12 am
OH MY GOD The Federal government wants to intrude on Federal elections!
Always nice to start the day with a laugh.
Bernie
February 27th, 2013
8:12 am
In 2012 Many Republican State Administrations across this Nation proved beyond a shadow of doubt that all of the tennants of the the Voting Rights Act should not only stand but even enhanced to improve Voting accessibilty for ALL Americans. Their shameful ACTS through legislation was a disgusting attempt to steal a U.S.Presidential election through voter suppression with a concerted effort and cooperation by all involved. This time period will be viewed by history as one of America’s lowest points in voting rights violations since the 1960’s.
bookman parrot
February 27th, 2013
8:13 am
you’re so correct jay…. everything is about racism … racism racism racism … couldn’t be anything else … because that sells so well and requires no thought or legit reasoning … the hell with having to show an ID… let’s bus in some Canadians and Mexicans to vote… illegals… go ahead and vote … foreigner working in the US come on down and vote … vote multiple times… sure if you have the conviction and enthusiam … have to defeat those damn racist GOPers …. don’t like the platform or plan of the GOP… call em racist …. the lib party is getting relaxed … bring up racism … make up racism …. just scream racism does racism exist … yes … to the extent of Jay’s crying …. no anywhere close to the extent of Jay’s crying NO!!!
Doggone/GA
February 27th, 2013
8:13 am
“This is another intrusion of the Federal government into states rights. – See more at: http://blogs.ajc.com/jay-bookman-blog/2013/02/27/sadly-the-federal-voting-rights-act-still-has-work-to-do/?cp=1#comment-1244691”
No, it isn’t. It’s the intrusion of the Federal government when states try to deny or restrict citizens CONSTITUTIONAL rights. That’s part of what the Federal government is FOR.
Mick
February 27th, 2013
8:14 am
Thanks HDB, to thine self be true…works for me..
recon
One person, one vote….it’s what democracy is all about and any attempt to suppress it, is appalling! If you don’t like the results, field better candidates and be more open minded about the issues, there will always be a majority and minority…
Lord Help Us
February 27th, 2013
8:14 am
Any new restrictions coming for absentee ballots? Have any GOP state legislatures taken up new laws restricting absentee ballots? You know, the ballots where vote fraud actually occurs on occasion…
Or is it all a transparent attempt to further misinform their low-information base…
Mick
February 27th, 2013
8:15 am
doggone
Thank you and your quick wit!
appleseed
February 27th, 2013
8:15 am
Limiting early voting sure worked against the Dems in electing our President.Teaquester/Tea anyone !
GT
February 27th, 2013
8:17 am
You send a person to congress that gets there cooking the books what protection do you have from Wall Street or private business doing the same thing. The ends trump the means and in doing so you have a recession like this country has never seen before. All start and ends in that voting booth.
Welcome to the Occupation
February 27th, 2013
8:18 am
Morning ilks!
Welcome to the Occupation
February 27th, 2013
8:20 am
Jerome Horwitz:
“Recons remarks do nothing but underscore the need for Voter Rights Act. Rather than look for ways to make the country inclusive he makes the arguement to deny people the right to vote”
It’s because he despises democracy.
alex
February 27th, 2013
8:20 am
Must be a bit more complicated than the superficial treatment by the usual lemmings on this blog if the Supreme court is set to hear the case. Everyone should be allowed to vote, no doubt, but if the cost is billions for a coupla more votes, perhaps this is no longer necessary…As for 55 year old whiner, go check out your local kidney dialysis center, then get back on the bike… 2 Tylenol and a bag of ice…
Granny Godzilla
February 27th, 2013
8:21 am
QUICK bookman parrot needs a fix
Breath in, Breath out, Breath in, Breath out
Corbin Sharpe. I think, therefore I am...I think.
February 27th, 2013
8:21 am
Not to take away from our Jay, but you should check this guy out, if you haven’t already…
http://blogs.ajc.com/jamie-dupree-washington-insider/2013/02/26/senate-democrats-roll-out-sequester-bill/?cxntfid=blogs_jamie_dupree_washington_insider
Good topic today, too…
Stevie Ray
February 27th, 2013
8:21 am
Mick
February 27th, 2013
7:35 am
Where did it take you 4 hours to vote?
Agree about ongoing need fot aspects of VRA. It’s a sad state of affairs when a single ethnic group representing 16% (give or take) of the population still has trouble voting without specific assistance. Yes the parties will continue to gerrymander and drive otherwise non voters to the polls but those still thinking color has meaning in terms of who’s important will always need some form of neutering…
Jerome Horwitz
February 27th, 2013
8:22 am
parrott want a cracker?
Corbin Sharpe. I think, therefore I am...I think.
February 27th, 2013
8:22 am
OK Granny G!
Now I have another monitor clean up to do…
Keep Up the Good Fight!
February 27th, 2013
8:22 am
The poor conned. They never see any Republican efforts to commit voting fraud of any type and they see a whole lot of imaginary Democratic fraud.
Unfortunately the act is still needed and should be applied to all states.
Georgia on my mind...
February 27th, 2013
8:33 am
Thanks for keeping us informed Jay. This law is still needed in the South.
alex
February 27th, 2013
8:34 am
@ Corbin, Dupree is much more objective than Jay on issues, he is insightful and helpful to understand the actual workings in D.C. I reccomend him to anyone that wants to try to understand an issue as opposed to those that already THINK they understand how the Govt. works. Jay’s is an opinion piece…..pass the BBQ, the opinion is getting cold…
Voting Rights Act of 1965 - Section 5—Preclearance
February 27th, 2013
8:35 am
Section 5 of the Act requires that the United States Department of Justice, through an administrative procedure, or a three-judge panel of the United States District Court for the District of Columbia, through a declaratory judgment action “preclear” any attempt to change “any voting qualification or prerequisite to voting, or standard, practice, or procedure with respect to voting…” in any “covered jurisdiction.”[5]
Stevie Ray
February 27th, 2013
8:35 am
CORBIN
Thanks for the article. Seems to me that instead of screwing around with such unbalanced cuts (I think they should go forward anyhow), the DEMS consider simply spreading them around beyond discretionary spending. Finding 20 bill or so from any number of entitlement programs should be a layup…that’s probably just a fraction of the low hanging fruit.
What exactly is “fair share”? Whatever the WH defines it? Fine and well for scapegoat sake, but not a deep well….to some on the left, there seems to be no altitude high enough to define it…I guess the ultimate definition is at the point of diminishing returns when we start to see more assets and addresses moved offshore..
See France for an example..
alex
February 27th, 2013
8:35 am
@ Georgia , Jay keeps you biased, and that is why YOU read him….
Partisay
February 27th, 2013
8:36 am
“let’s bus in some Canadians and Mexicans to vote… illegals… go ahead and vote …”
speaking of making up some inuendos and generizations! So, where has that been happening parrott?
straitroad
February 27th, 2013
8:36 am
Sadly, liberals are and will remain vested in making everything about race. Voting should not be made to be convenient. It should take at least a little sacrifice because it is so important. It’s not as if elections pop up without notice. Now liberals will ask us to believe that minorities are less capable of voting unless they are given expanded opportunities to do so.
indigo
February 27th, 2013
8:36 am
The Voting Rights Act was passed in 1965. That was about 48 YEARS AGO.
And yet this law, like affirmative action, is a social experiment that just keeps on giving.
It’s clear that many in the African-American community are going to constantly complain about discrimination no mattter how fairly America treats them.
And, it’s clear that those obsessed with political correctness will stoutly defend them no matter how questionable the claims are.
Only in America.
TaxPayer
February 27th, 2013
8:36 am
I see the bitter cons continue to post their bitter tidbits. Not to worry, bitter cons. You only have four more years before we do it again. How ’bout Michelle Obama for President in 2016. Sound good. I think so.
Georgia on my mind...
February 27th, 2013
8:37 am
alex
What is your reason for participating on this blog and not Kyle’s? He seems to be the more conservative one!
Bernie
February 27th, 2013
8:38 am
The State Houses around this Nation can never be trusted to do the right thing when it comes to FAIR & EQUAL Treatment of ALL Americans. This one of America’s most strangest CHARACTER FLAWS when it comes to governing its people. Despite having one of the most noble documents produced by man as a guide for governing, living up to even the most basic tennants still prove to be a very hard sell for many of America’s political leaders.
Mick
February 27th, 2013
8:38 am
stevie ray
It took four hours to vote in miami….I woke up early the saturday before the election and went to the local library to vote. The line was wrapped around the building at 6:30am! You see the repubs in our state did everything they could to suppress voter turnout including a ten page ballot. It backfired! People were determined to send a message to those fools in tallahassee that their dirty tricks wouldn’t work…florida didn’t certify the election until the saturday after the election and obama won handily. All those shenanigans hurt romney voters too, four to six hours to vte in 2013? It was a disgrace!!!
Doggone/GA
February 27th, 2013
8:39 am
“It’s clear that many in the African-American community are going to constantly complain about discrimination no mattter how fairly America treats them. – See more at: http://blogs.ajc.com/jay-bookman-blog/2013/02/27/sadly-the-federal-voting-rights-act-still-has-work-to-do/?cp=1#comment-1244712”
What is truly “clear” is that you don’t recognize discrimination when it’s shoved under your nose
DownInAlbany
February 27th, 2013
8:39 am
Yep, voter fraud is entirely a Republican problem…Dems would never be caught manipulating the vote…
http://www.voteguards.org/info-feed/a-casestudy-in-vote-fraud-evergreen-alabama
http://hotair.com/archives/2012/08/09/book-voter-fraud-is-real-and-has-consequences-just-look-at-sen-al-franken/
Dont’ attack the source before you read…
Scuba Steve
February 27th, 2013
8:39 am
Parrot did you even read the article? Can you even read?
Granny Godzilla
February 27th, 2013
8:40 am
alex
I remember Jamie Dupree as a regular on the Boortz show……
and how abjective that all was.
Granny Godzilla
February 27th, 2013
8:42 am
DownInAlbany
February 27th, 2013
8:39 am
Yep, voter fraud is entirely a Republican problem…Dems would never be caught manipulating the vote…
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NONSENSE
Any democrat caught comitting voter fraud whould be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law!
I double dog dare you to find any “dem” who disagrees.
Stevie Ray
February 27th, 2013
8:44 am
Recon 0311 2533
February 27th, 2013
8:00 am
Sadly, you are correct but it would be more forthright if you mentioned the means the GOP takes advantage as well. I wonder why we have only 1 day of traditional voting…seems with the appropriate controls in place, spreading it out over a couple days? It seems that most other developed countries do such…need to get rid of those useless exit polls…
Perhaps that would go a ways to addressing…maybe the polling stations can be reconfigured to be mobile and move as demand dictates one day from the next..
Peadawg
February 27th, 2013
8:44 am
Granny Godzilla
February 27th, 2013
8:40 am
Same. Dupree was there to report the news and very very very rarely took Boortz’s bait. Dupree did/does a good job of just reporting.
Lord Help Us
February 27th, 2013
8:45 am
DIA – AWESOME…I have never seen that site (voteguard). Thanks! Look what I found there under an article titled, ‘Why the Election won’t be close.’
1.Polls Lie: The average poll today is skewed heavily Democrat. The average poll sampling is plus 5.5 Democratc. Meaning a tie in the polls is really Romney plus 2.5 – 5.
2.Online Sentiment: In 2008 the positive to negative ratio of online mentions of Obama was 3 to 1 positive vs. negative. Now it’s completely opposite with nearly 4 to 1 negative vs. positive. Positive comments for Romney are nearly double the amount of positive comments for McCain. In 2008 roughly 25% of adults commented about politics online. Today it’s close to 40%. That’s a real “sample.”
3.The Last 4 Four Years: Love or hate Barack Obama, the last four years have been terrible for many people.
4.Sales 101: If you sell someone a product that doesn’t work as advertised, you are going to have a difficult time selling someone the exact same product four years later.
5.Crowd Size: During the 2008 Campaign Barack Obama drew massive crowds everywhere he went. Today it’s the Romney Campaign, not Obama, that draws massive crowds.
6.Someone to Vote For: In 2008 few wanted to vote for John McCain, just against Obama. Today more people are voting for Romney not just against Obama.
7.2010 Mid Term Elections(Tea Party): The last national elections were overwhelmingly in favor of the GOP and conservative candidates in response to Obama’s first two years.
8.Christians: The Obama Presidency has offended Christians time after time. Last election 20 million evangelical Christians didn’t vote. Don’t think Christians are motivated? Did you see the lines at Chic-fil-A?
9.Voter ID/Voter Rolls: The addition of voter ID laws and removal of ineligible voters (felons, illegal immigrants, deceased persons, etc.) from state voter rolls will result in a reduction of invalid Democratic votes. You will not see the same numbers of Democratic voters you did in 2008. What does it say about a party that relies on those “votes” to win an election?
10.The Facts:23 Million Unemployed or Underemployed, 47 Million on Food Stamps, 5.5 Million Homes in Crisis/Foreclosure, $4500 Drop in Household Income, $5.5 Trillion of New Debt , $716 Billion in Medicare Cuts, $2.6 Trillion for Obamacare,$1.9 Trillion in New Taxes in Obama’s Budget and a 100% Increase in Gas Prices.
The veil of depict and confusion has been lifted from the eyes of many Americans. I predict Romney in a landslide. If I’m wrong, God help us.’
Obviously, a quality source…
DownInAlbany
February 27th, 2013
8:47 am
Granny Godzilla
February 27th, 2013
8:42 am
Sorry you couldn’t see the last comment dripping with sarcasm!
Sadly, however, I think the author of this blog would have you believe that every ill in the country, yea, the world is a direct result of the action / inaction of pubs/cons!
Stevie Ray
February 27th, 2013
8:49 am
MICK
I guess I need to better understand why a 10 page ballot (mostly state issues?) is necessary for all to view/complete …also, why not more polling stations distributed with appropriate sizing for districts..??
Steve
February 27th, 2013
8:50 am
This forum CRACKS ME UP. And Redneck Convert posts are the best – how you stay so consistently ironic amazes me.
Granny Godzilla
February 27th, 2013
8:51 am
Peadawg
February 27th, 2013
8:44 am
Granny Godzilla
February 27th, 2013
8:40 am
Same. Dupree was there to report the news and very very very rarely took Boortz’s bait. Dupree did/does a good job of just reporting.
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Can’t agree Pea, while I heard him walk away from some of Boortz’s bait to be sure, I believe his reporting was and still is skewed right.
Stevie Ray
February 27th, 2013
8:51 am
JAY
Is there any good, apolitical reason why we only have one day to hit the physical polls as tradition would have it?
Steve
February 27th, 2013
8:52 am
Lord Help Us – which parallel universe do you live in? Things are continuing to improve on all levels across this country. Stock market up, homes are now selling in less than 30 days on the market in my Atlanta neighborhood, interest rates are low, low inflation, job market continues to grow.
Granny Godzilla
February 27th, 2013
8:52 am
down in albany
I tend to avoid anything that …drips
Steve
February 27th, 2013
8:53 am
@LordHelpus – my bad, I misread your post
Stevie Ray
February 27th, 2013
8:54 am
Steve
February 27th, 2013
8:50 am
Could redneck convert be related directly to you or your computer? If so, pat yourself on the back for me..
stands for decibels
February 27th, 2013
8:54 am
>>the form of voting that is disproportionately used by African-Americans
>Anyone got an opinion as to why?
GH, I will add this to what DGA posted @ 7.16, and it is purely speculative.
But I think those with memories of news video from Ohio in 2004, when long lines of people (predominantly African American, if memory serves) trying to cast a vote for after the polling had officially closed that Tuesday night, probably got a lot of folks across the country thinking it’s smarter to do it sooner rather than try to do it later. Particularly in those districts that lean Democratic, in states governed by Republicans.
And I’m not saying this to paint GOP governors/legislators with a broad brush here; I just think there would be a natural inclination for voters to make that choice, given those circumstances, is all.
Peadawg
February 27th, 2013
8:55 am
Granny Godzilla
February 27th, 2013
8:51 am
I’d go to Dupree’s blog before Kyle’s or Jay’s any day.
st simons - he-ne-ha
February 27th, 2013
8:56 am
“In Florida last year, Republican state officials attempted to dramatically
reduce early voting, an option that minority voters rely upon heavily.”
Reason # eleventy-thousand why you’re getting creamed, especially
next year in Flow-rida, cons.
But i understand. If everybody got to vote, & they didn’t cheat,
they’d never win again.
Peadawg
February 27th, 2013
8:56 am
For unbiased news – that is.
alex
February 27th, 2013
8:57 am
Granny, of course you thought he was skewed to the right , you couldn’t think otherwise, you are not capable. The real point is, for me , is that he is significantly more objective than Jay and his opinion pieces, if you want to hear yourself, GRANNY, stay with Jay..
@ Georgia, to TRY to understand how the FAR left thinks, keep an open mind, get it…..probably not…but mabye!
td
February 27th, 2013
9:02 am
Using early voting to have access to rolls of the people that have already voted so that the Democrats can call them relentlessly or go knock on their doors over and over again until they go and vote. Send out the vans and the buses to pick them up and take them to the polls while your operatives are telling them who they should vote for (education) Is this what the voting rights act is all about?
My understanding is that the voting rights act was written to make sure minorities that wanted to vote could actually vote. I did not know that it was set up to make sure Democrats could shame people into voting for their candidates.
godless heathen - owner of many things he does not need
February 27th, 2013
9:04 am
But i understand. If everybody got to vote, & they didn’t cheat,
they’d never win again.
Just keep believing that.
indigo
February 27th, 2013
9:04 am
Any proven voter irregularities should be handled on a case by case basis.
We should not need a Voting Rights Act after 45+ years of it being enacted.
Jay, has it ever occured to you, even once, that other countries know about this and wonder why we would still need such a law? And yet, we go marching into other lands to bring truth, justice and the American way. And, when we are greeted with anger and contempt, we just don’t seem to understand why.
Thomas Heywerd Jr
February 27th, 2013
9:05 am
Those who vote in Federally-rigged elections…………..deserve everything coming their way.
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Thank God………..and Ron Paul………the majority don’t and the numbers are growing.
Think locally and vote……the same.
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Embrace your inner decency………………ignore Washington and the violent war criminals who dwell there.
Welcome to the Occupation
February 27th, 2013
9:05 am
“Voting should not be made to be convenient. It should take at least a little sacrifice because it is so important”
I see straightroad is in agreement with Recon and others in despising democracy.
But sadly, in this our con friends are in alignment with virtually the entirety of the ruling class and its proxies, including Barack Obama. The only difference between Democrats and the GOP is that the Democrats are quite as aggressive in trying to thwart people’s rights to vote outright. They’re more subtle. But make no mistake. ALL of the ruling elite, Democrat and Republican, view the will of the people with contempt and as something to be skirted wherever possible.
Scuba Steve
February 27th, 2013
9:06 am
lol cry for me, td
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
February 27th, 2013
9:06 am
“The federal Voting Rights Act was passed in 1965, in the aftermath of a bloody assault on voting-rights protesters in Selma, Ala.. The law remains one of the crowning achievements of the civil rights movement”
And who tried to block it ?
DEMOCRATS !
Partisay
February 27th, 2013
9:07 am
Straitroad – Voting should not be made to be convenient. It should take at least a little sacrifice because it is so important.
So because something is so important, it should be MADE to be inconvenient? In what ways? People should be made to stand in long lines – because voting is that important?
It boggles the mind that people actually think like this.
Scuba Steve
February 27th, 2013
9:08 am
Indigo, we still need the law because America continues to f*** up Civil Rights on a consistent basis.
Welcome to the Occupation
February 27th, 2013
9:09 am
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801:
“And who tried to block it ?
DEMOCRATSREPUBLICANS !”Those “Democrats” were actually just Republicans waiting to be born, as you know perfectly well.
Granny Godzilla
February 27th, 2013
9:09 am
alex
I simply don’t agree that jaime dupree is more objective.
I come here to hear YOU alex…..
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
February 27th, 2013
9:10 am
“WHITE LIBERALS TELL BLACK LIES ABOUT CIVIL RIGHTS”
“The 1957 bill was sent to Congress by Eisenhower, passed with the intervention of Vice President Richard Nixon, and opposed exclusively by Democrats. Not “Southern Democrats,” not “conservative Democrats,” but Democrats, such as Wayne Morse of Oregon, Warren Magnuson of Washington, James Murray of Montana, Mike Mansfield of Montana and Joseph O’Mahoney of Wyoming.”
Every single segregationist in the Senate was a Democrat. Only one of them ever became a Republican: Strom Thurmond.
The rest remained not only Democrats, but quite liberal Democrats. These included such liberal luminaries as Harry Byrd, Robert Byrd, Allen Ellender, Albert Gore Sr., J. William Fulbright, Walter F. George, Russell Long and Richard Russell.”
http://www.anncoulter.com/columns/2013-02-13.html
Sometimes the truth hurts !
JamVet
February 27th, 2013
9:11 am
And who tried to block it ?
Southern white male conservatives!
Who all fled the Democratic Party in the 1980s to become Republicans.
It was and is LIBERALS who champion civil rights.
But you knew all of that…
Granny Godzilla
February 27th, 2013
9:11 am
td
snicker
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
February 27th, 2013
9:11 am
“Patriotism is supporting your country all of the time and your government when it deserves it.”
Mark Twain
Granny Godzilla
February 27th, 2013
9:12 am
JamVet
That!!!!
Ronin
February 27th, 2013
9:13 am
Jay, while I can’t lift you to the same cognizant level as Neal Boortz. Interesting info.
The truth is, no person that receives government assistance should be allowed to vote, until the tax code changes, to a flat tax.
Partisay
February 27th, 2013
9:13 am
“Using early voting to have access to rolls of the people that have already voted so that the Democrats can call them relentlessly or go knock on their doors over and over again until they go and vote. Send out the vans and the buses to pick them up and take them to the polls while your operatives are telling them who they should vote for (education) Is this what the voting rights act is all about?”
So td…you are actually whining about people providing transportation for others so they can go vote? You think the republicans don’t do this? Is it against the law or something? It’s called getting out people to vote and it’s what both parties have done for years. You think it should be stopped. Hey that’s it….make the people prove they provided their own transportation to the polls – or don’t let them vote.
Can you not see how petty, whiny and ridiculous your complaint is?
DownInAlbany
February 27th, 2013
9:14 am
Lord Help Us
February 27th, 2013
8:45 am
Attacking the source didn’t take as long as I suspected…
But, then again, I’m not sure what of the other articles you are disputing…is it the 47,000,000 on food stamps, Christians being offended, the last 4 years terrible for many people? Which of these commentaries would you like to dispute? I’m pretty sure that’s pretty good info, despite the fact that it doesn’t fit your narative!
Welcome to the Occupation
February 27th, 2013
9:15 am
“The federal Voting Rights Act was passed in 1965…. And who tried to block it ? / DEMOCRATS !”
Why do you despise democracy so much, Scout?
Partisay
February 27th, 2013
9:16 am
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801 – You’re linking an Ann Coulter column?
Good God man, have you no decency!!
Kamchak - You cons said Elmer Fudd could defeat Obama, so why didn't you nominate him?
February 27th, 2013
9:17 am
If you don’t like the results, field better candidates…
Maybe Elmer Fudd?
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Dont’ attack the source before you read…
Dittoheads say, “What?”
DownInAlbany
February 27th, 2013
9:17 am
Granny Godzilla
February 27th, 2013
8:52 am
Your wisdom shines through! (no dripping sarcasm)
Joe Hussein Mama
February 27th, 2013
9:17 am
Mick — “On another note, today is my b-day, they are not as much fun as they used to be but I’m at that all purposeful delineated age of 55.”
Look out, man. That’s when you stop getting coupons and mailers for cool stuff like high-end stereo equipment and sports cars and instead start getting coupons and mailers for things like Metamucil and walkers.
Lord Help Us
February 27th, 2013
9:17 am
‘Attacking the source didn’t take as long as I suspected…’
DIA, it is a wingnut fantasy site. The fact that you get ‘information’ from such a ridiculous source explains why you believe the crap you spew…
moonbat betty
February 27th, 2013
9:17 am
Please, folks, out of political correctness, do not use the term “white”.
It’s “European American”.
Thank you in advance.
DownInAlbany
February 27th, 2013
9:20 am
Lord Help Us
February 27th, 2013
9:17 am
Indulge me, if you please. What of the 10 examples that you pasted is false?
Soothsayer
February 27th, 2013
9:22 am
“The truth is, no person that receives government assistance should be allowed to vote, until the tax code changes, to a flat tax.”
Ronin, have you thought about leaving your brain to science?
Granny Godzilla
February 27th, 2013
9:22 am
Ronin
Does that include all the shareholders of big oil companies that get subsides?
alex
February 27th, 2013
9:22 am
@ Granny, and for that I am charged with trying to find an objective viewpoint, I will NOT always or usually be successful, but I will try.
An interesting question,at least I think, From the right perspective: Obama was highly successful in getting out his vote, their on-the ground team was superb-no doubt, when does this aggressive vote “getting” become over intrusive. Poorly worded-yes. My reading in the economist suggests that their techinque was almost a “browbeating’ of some people to get them to vote…perhaps not, an open ?
mm
February 27th, 2013
9:24 am
“Voting should not be made to be convenient.”
And there’s your sign. Typical rightwing stupidity.
Lord Help Us
February 27th, 2013
9:24 am
‘Indulge me, if you please. What of the 10 examples that you pasted is false?’
DIA, my favorites were the one about the ’skewed polls,’ and with an h/t to the topic du jour…
‘9.Voter ID/Voter Rolls: The addition of voter ID laws and removal of ineligible voters (felons, illegal immigrants, deceased persons, etc.) from state voter rolls will result in a reduction of invalid Democratic votes. You will not see the same numbers of Democratic voters you did in 2008. What does it say about a party that relies on those “votes” to win an election?’
Wow, she’s a beaut (h/t ch)
Granny Godzilla
February 27th, 2013
9:25 am
“have you thought about leaving your brain to science?”
I suspect he already did……gaping hole remains
Kamchak - You cons said Elmer Fudd could defeat Obama, so why didn't you nominate him?
February 27th, 2013
9:26 am
Ronin, have you thought about leaving your brain to science?
Or Hannibal Lecter?
BuckeyeInGa
February 27th, 2013
9:26 am
The truth is, no person that receives government assistance should be allowed to vote, until the tax code changes, to a flat tax. –
So the people that shouldn’t vote include CEO’ of oil companies, constructions companies, GM, etc…
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
February 27th, 2013
9:26 am
Partisay:
Did the Democrats try to block that legislation back then or not ?
Google it for yourself …………. or keep your biased, hypocritical head in the sand.
Sometimes the truth hurts !
Welcome to the Occupation
February 27th, 2013
9:27 am
Ronin: “The truth is, no person that receives government assistance should be allowed to vote, until the tax code changes, to a flat tax”
Licking the boots of the property owners.
Why the utter contempt for democracy, Ronin? Sure you’ve thought that one through ?
BuckeyeInGa
February 27th, 2013
9:27 am
I see GG asked the same question I did.
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
February 27th, 2013
9:27 am
Welcome to the Occupation:
“Why do you despise democracy so much, Scout?”
Oh, you have me wrong ! I love democracy but I like the “truth of history” even more !
Off to the dog park ………… everyone be nice !!!
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes, oh and -- FREE FRED!
February 27th, 2013
9:28 am
Jay
It’s been two days.
Will you please you free Fred now?
Granny Godzilla
February 27th, 2013
9:29 am
alex
when does “vote getting” become intrusive?
“almost” browbeating?
Never experienced that myself. Have you?
Joe Hussein Mama
February 27th, 2013
9:30 am
LHU — “1.Polls Lie: The average poll today is skewed heavily Democrat. The average poll sampling is plus 5.5 Democratc. Meaning a tie in the polls is really Romney plus 2.5 – 5.”
Do I really need to explain — once again — the abject innumeracy of people who believe this?
td
February 27th, 2013
9:30 am
Partisay
February 27th, 2013
9:13 am
“Using early voting to have access to rolls of the people that have already voted so that the Democrats can call them relentlessly or go knock on their doors over and over again until they go and vote. Send out the vans and the buses to pick them up and take them to the polls while your operatives are telling them who they should vote for (education) Is this what the voting rights act is all about?”
So td…you are actually whining about people providing transportation for others so they can go vote? You think the republicans don’t do this? Is it against the law or something? It’s called getting out people to vote and it’s what both parties have done for years. You think it should be stopped. Hey that’s it….make the people prove they provided their own transportation to the polls – or don’t let them vote.
Can you not see how petty, whiny and ridiculous your complaint is?
You see my comments in the uninformed light (typical progressive). The question was intended to look at the unintended consequences of a law. I do not think the lawmakers were thinking about protecting the practices of either political party (but really about the Democratic party right now since most minorities vote Democratic) to use the law to maximize their party power.
Partisay
February 27th, 2013
9:32 am
That Ann Coulter is such a classy lady….
Lord Help Us
February 27th, 2013
9:32 am
‘Do I really need to explain’
Yes, DIA believes crap from wingnut fantasy sources like voteguard…He is hopeless, but perhaps your sacrifice can help others that are not so far gone…
st simons - he-ne-ha
February 27th, 2013
9:32 am
Hagel Sworn In
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iY3WwnSEUms
haha
Welcome to the Occupation
February 27th, 2013
9:33 am
“Did the Democrats try to block that legislation back then or not ? ”
Do you not have the slightest trace of subtlety in your head, Scout, or are you just playing stupd?
You take one group and then another group, and then the two change places. It’s about a simple change of historical roles. See? It’s really quite simple. Even a rather simple-minded person can grasp it. Not that hard.
td
February 27th, 2013
9:35 am
Granny Godzilla
February 27th, 2013
9:22 am
Ronin
Does that include all the shareholders of big oil companies that get subsides?
And how much did those big oil companies pay in taxes last year?
BuckeyeInGa
February 27th, 2013
9:35 am
@JHM
LHU — “1.Polls Lie: The average poll today is skewed heavily Democrat. The average poll sampling is plus 5.5 Democratc. Meaning a tie in the polls is really Romney plus 2.5 – 5.”
Do I really need to explain — once again — the abject innumeracy of people who believe this?
This is the same statement that Karl Rove, Dick Morris and Newt Gingrich used before the election in 2012. I “think” they were proven wrong.
Welcome to the Occupation
February 27th, 2013
9:36 am
Scout; “Oh, you have me wrong ! I love democracy but I like the “
truth of historyfatherland” even more !”I bet you do. I bet you do.
stands for decibels
February 27th, 2013
9:36 am
All one needs to know about why the Voting Rights Act still has work to do:
limiting early voting makes it materially more difficult for Democrats to round up or otherwise bribe the uninformed voters and drive them to the polls
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let’s bus in some Canadians and Mexicans to vote… illegals… go ahead and vote … foreigner working in the US come on down and vote … vote multiple times…
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Reconstruction is over! Even with the law, a poll worker admitted to voting multiple times. Throw it out!
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many in the African-American community are going to constantly complain about discrimination no mattter how fairly America treats them.
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The truth is, no person that receives government assistance should be allowed to vote, until the tax code changes, to a flat tax
Education of the public: It’s taking longer than we thought.
saywhat?
February 27th, 2013
9:37 am
Ronin
February 27th, 2013
9:13 am
Jay, while I can’t lift you to the same cognizant level as Neal Boortz. Interesting info.
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How many sledge hammer blows to Jay’s noggin would that take?
Partisay
February 27th, 2013
9:41 am
td..don’t see what hauling people to the polls has to do with ANY law. Including the voting rights act. So would you criticize me for taking my grandmother and 2 of her old friends to vote (I did, last election).
That’s one of the main things both parties do…get people out to vote.
“and take them to the polls while your operatives are telling them who they should vote for”
Is this anything like preachers telling their flocks who to vote for? Supplying “voter cards” to remind them who to vote for? I just can’t believe some people would suggest to others who to vote for!!!
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alittlecommonsense
February 27th, 2013
9:41 am
“I’ve always wondered why Republicans are so anxious to restrict voting by Those People. A strrong party, one that was confident in their beliefs, would aggressively market themselves to everyone, instead of trying to limit the vote of people who don’t think like they do.”
Like Al Gore’s program to aggressively disenfranchise the votes of military members who were serving their country overseas. Maybe look at the sins of your own party before painting the other party with a broad brush. Just sayin.
Jefferson
February 27th, 2013
9:43 am
Getting a gun is easier than voting. Why not “instant” photo id at the polls.
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes, oh and -- FREE FRED!
February 27th, 2013
9:43 am
…your operatives are telling them who they should vote for…
John Hagee says, “What?”
Joe Hussein Mama
February 27th, 2013
9:43 am
LHU — “Yes, DIA believes crap from wingnut fantasy sources like voteguard…He is hopeless, but perhaps your sacrifice can help others that are not so far gone…”
Alrighty, will do.
The notion of “skew” in political polls originated about 6 or so years ago with Rasmussen. Rasmussen bases his projections on what he *thinks* the political party distribution *will be* on Election Day. The problem with that, of course, is that Rasmussen has absolutely no way to accurately project what that distribution will be — so he GUESSES.
Up until last summer, you could read about this part of his methodology on his website, but around July or so, he put in behind a paywall. Now you need to be a Rasmussen *paying client* in order to see the admission.
But back to the GUESS. In statistics, that’s called a ‘fudge factor,’ and it’s indicative of sloppy work. If you have to apply a fudge factor to your numbers before you release them, you’re full of beans. Consequently, I have no faith in or reliance on Rasmussen’s surveys.
Then, shortly before the 2008 election, the notion of ’skewed’ polls took on new life when conservatives started complaining that Republicans and Democrats weren’t represented in equal numbers in political polls.
Well, why WOULD they? From a statistical POV, if you’ve properly randomized your selection methodology and search population, any errors are already covered by the Margin of Error, a number that is mathematically derivable in any given poll. But no — conservatives got the notion that if a poll had 48% R and 52% D in its population, the results would have to be shifted two percent in favor of the R in order to be ‘accurate’ and ‘correct.’
Well, I’m sorry, but that’s mathematical bulldada. The reason that Democrats tend to be overrepresented is because there are more of them in the general population. The 2008 and 2012 elections are proof of that. And if there are more of a given group in a survey population, you would *expect* that group to be overrepresented in the surveyed group. It’s simple probability.
Whenever I hear anyone prattling about skewed polls, it’s a sure sign to me that said individual doesn’t know the first thing about statistics or survey methodology. And that he probably can’t balance his own checkbook.
gary
February 27th, 2013
9:44 am
Gee if we charged $35 for an id to vote, some tattoo parlors will go out of business waiting on the poor and stupid to get ink’d
JamVet
February 27th, 2013
9:44 am
Good God man, have you no decency!!
There is virtually NO debate that Ms. Coulter has very, very little.
The difference between the most virulent of the Republicans and the rest of us?
We want ALL Americans to have access to their constitutional right to franchise. We believe that everyone, who is legally eligible, should vote
The worst of our Republicans? You people have read the posts yourselves and you know.
Restrict voting to a limited number of Americans – either by administering IQ requirements or “contribution to the nation” requirements or whatever. i call them the modern day Jim Crow bunch.
This is Republican fascism, not American democracy.
But it does explain – to a great extent – their huge “Negro problem”…
Doggone/GA
February 27th, 2013
9:44 am
“Like Al Gore’s program to aggressively disenfranchise the votes of military members who were serving their country overseas – See more at: http://blogs.ajc.com/jay-bookman-blog/2013/02/27/sadly-the-federal-voting-rights-act-still-has-work-to-do/?cp=2#sthash.7wUYa0Ei.dpuf”
When you have to lie to make your point, you have no point
Granny Godzilla
February 27th, 2013
9:47 am
td
“How much do they pay in taxes?”
That matters how?
But You might want to look at Exxon for 2009…
stands for decibels
February 27th, 2013
9:47 am
Like Al Gore’s program to aggressively disenfranchise the votes of military members
Cite, please.
td
February 27th, 2013
9:47 am
Partisay
February 27th, 2013
9:41 am
You carrying your mother and a couple her friends to the polls in not a problem. A political party renting hundreds or thousands buses to pick up people from their houses day after day, after they knocked on peoples doors and escorted them to the pick up location is just plain wrong.
Ronin
February 27th, 2013
9:48 am
Granny, honestly, with all due respect, it has nothing to do with oil, of which, the price of petrol has doubled under President Obama.
While the media maintains that President Obama is the first black president, that’s only half right.
Black, white, purple, blue or green, I simply don’t care.
Dr. Ben Carson MD, is more than a intellectual match for President Obama.
Simple and to the point, the man simply cleans the floor with wisdom, which can eradicate the GOP and Demaphobs.
game on….
Mick
February 27th, 2013
9:48 am
joe
No about the metamucil coupons, but harley davidson has been after me…
Granny Godzilla
February 27th, 2013
9:49 am
alittlecommonsense
“Like Al Gore’s program to aggressively disenfranchise the votes of military members who were serving their country overseas.”
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Balderdash
Joe Hussein Mama
February 27th, 2013
9:49 am
The last time I saw Ann Coulter on Bill Maher’s show (about a year or so ago), he seemed to broadly hint that her behavior is all an act, calculated to sell books and personal appearances — and she didn’t disagree with him. Coulter is known to have had personal relationships with a number of lefty types, and Maher is heavily rumored to have been one of her past paramours. And judging from her behavior on his show, I’d say it’s pretty likely — she was MUCH more deferential and coquettish than I’ve ever seen her before. My wife even said ‘those two slept together’ while watching the show with me.
Long story short, I think Coulter breathes fire for money. but I also think that it’s all an act.
stands for decibels
February 27th, 2013
9:50 am
A political party renting hundreds or thousands buses to pick up people from their houses day after day, after they knocked on peoples doors and escorted them to the pick up location is just plain wrong.
Please proceed.
Joe Hussein Mama
February 27th, 2013
9:51 am
Mick — “joe No about the metamucil coupons, but harley davidson has been after me…”
I’m waiting for the Viagra trial offer that comes with a free Harley myself. Like the guy in the commercial who’s out riding his bike in the desert all day and comes back home riiiiight around dark.
Redneck Convert (R--and proud of it)
February 27th, 2013
9:51 am
The average poll today is skewed heavily Democrat. The average poll sampling is plus 5.5 Democratc. Meaning a tie in the polls is really Romney plus 2.5 – 5.
Well, the polls had it right and we were going to win big and we were going to take the Senate and send Obama packing to Chicago. It’s just that the voters screwed it up. That’s what happens when you get people involved in things.
Doggone/GA
February 27th, 2013
9:53 am
“the price of petrol has doubled under President Obama – See more at: http://blogs.ajc.com/jay-bookman-blog/2013/02/27/sadly-the-federal-voting-rights-act-still-has-work-to-do/?cp=2#comment-1244837”
And what does that have to do with Obama being President? The US President has no control over world-wide oil prices. No matter who he is.
Granny Godzilla
February 27th, 2013
9:53 am
td
You carrying your mother and a couple her friends to the polls in not a problem. A political party renting hundreds or thousands buses to pick up people from their houses day after day, after they knocked on peoples doors and escorted them to the pick up location is just plain wrong.
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.
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Nope it’s just plain RIGHT.
It’s also courteous and thoughtful.
Unless of course, there is some bigger, deeper reason you want people who can’t or don’t drive, or who have little or no access to public transportation not to vote?
mmmmmmmmmmm…it’s a puzzlement
td
February 27th, 2013
9:53 am
stands for decibels
February 27th, 2013
9:47 am
Like Al Gore’s program to aggressively disenfranchise the votes of military members
Cite, please.
It is common knowledge of what Gore attempted doing to the military vote in Florida. For you not to have heard this speaks volumes about the uninformed voter.
”
Gen Norman Schwarzkopf, the Gulf war commander who now lives in Florida, led Republican condemnation of a five-page guide which advised Democratic tellers how to raise objections to the postal votes.
He said: “It is a very sad day in our country when the men and women of the armed forces are serving abroad and facing danger of a daily basis . . . and are denied the right to vote for the president of the United States who will be their commander in chief.”
Democratic tellers were advised to block ballots if there was no clearly legible postmark on the envelope, which is frequently the case when letters are posted from military bases. Normally, these ballots pass unchallenged.”
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northamerica/usa/1375024/Gore-campaign-trying-to-block-military-votes.html
Now what say you?
Bernie
February 27th, 2013
9:54 am
Doggone/GA @ 8:39 am – My Friend you would be truly amazed and surprised by the many things we recognize about your culture and the fair treatment others. The Real problem here is that you are unable to recognize that you and your ILK, have a problem at all or you are pretending not recognize and that is the saddest part of ALL. No one is FOOLED! least of ALL the people of color!
We have many years of silence and observation, that even you are not aware of about your own selves.
stands for decibels
February 27th, 2013
9:55 am
By the way, I was searching for SBC voting guide materials, and came upon this:
http://4040prayer.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2012/11/Picture-5.png
“Ask God to … Prevent anything from happening that would prevent you from voting.”
this is via the Southern Baptists, td.
So, please proceed, and tell me why ensuring that voters get to polling places–essentially fulfilling the evangelicals’ prayer cited above–is “just plain wrong.”
Cherokee
February 27th, 2013
9:56 am
“after they knocked on peoples doors and escorted them to the pick up location is just plain wrong.”
Why? For heaven sakes why?
Have you ever lived in a small town, td? With perhaps lots of elderly people? Elderly people who have difficulties getting around, who don’t own cars?
And you think it’s wrong to help those people get to the polls?
Do conservatives set out to intentionally drive people away from your values?
Ronin
February 27th, 2013
9:56 am
@ Say 0937, actually, the answer is none. Jay is Jay, maybe even agent Jay, from MIB….
While he’s a nice guy, he would never win a debate with me…..
Doggone/GA
February 27th, 2013
9:56 am
“A political party renting hundreds or thousands buses to pick up people from their houses day after day, after they knocked on peoples doors and escorted them to the pick up location is just plain wrong – See more at: http://blogs.ajc.com/jay-bookman-blog/2013/02/27/sadly-the-federal-voting-rights-act-still-has-work-to-do/?cp=2#comment-1244848”
Got proof?
stands for decibels
February 27th, 2013
9:57 am
Now what say you?
I say your opinion piece is full of crap, and that the supporting evidence is based solely on the assertions of people with a specific ax to grind.
Redneck Convert (R--and proud of it)
February 27th, 2013
9:57 am
I’m waiting for the Viagra trial offer that comes with a free Harley myself.
Careful there, Hussein, else you’ll wind up by yourself in a cold empty bathtub with this beautiful woman in another cold empty bathtub but you can’t get to her ’cause you’re stuck in a cold empty bathtub. All I know is, if God had of wanted you to do You Know What after you hit 50 or so you would of been born with different equipment.
td
February 27th, 2013
10:01 am
Bernie
February 27th, 2013
9:54 am
“No one is FOOLED! least of ALL the people of color!”
Not fooled but just brainwashed. Cain, Sowell and several other well established African American conservatives have done quite a bid of documentation about the subject.
Doggone/GA
February 27th, 2013
10:01 am
“It is common knowledge of what Gore attempted doing to the military vote in Florida. For you not to have heard this speaks volumes about the uninformed voter – See more at: http://blogs.ajc.com/jay-bookman-blog/2013/02/27/sadly-the-federal-voting-rights-act-still-has-work-to-do/?cp=2#comment-1244855”
And this shows that you DON’T have any proof. “Common knowledge” does not constitute proof, nor is it invariably true.
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes, oh and -- FREE FRED!
February 27th, 2013
10:01 am
While he’s a nice guy, he would never win a debate with me…..
Clearly, you are One Bad Stud.
Joe Hussein Mama
February 27th, 2013
10:03 am
R, Convert — “Careful there, Hussein, else you’ll wind up by yourself in a cold empty bathtub with this beautiful woman in another cold empty bathtub but you can’t get to her ’cause you’re stuck in a cold empty bathtub.”
I thought that only happened if you used Levitra instead of Viagra?
Doggone/GA
February 27th, 2013
10:03 am
“My Friend you would be truly amazed and surprised by the many things we recognize about your culture and the fair treatment others – See more at: http://blogs.ajc.com/jay-bookman-blog/2013/02/27/sadly-the-federal-voting-rights-act-still-has-work-to-do/?cp=2#comment-1244859”
I have no idea what this is even supposed to mean in the context of my reply at 8:39. They don’t seem to relate at all.
td
February 27th, 2013
10:03 am
Cherokee
February 27th, 2013
9:56 am
“after they knocked on peoples doors and escorted them to the pick up location is just plain wrong.”
Why? For heaven sakes why?
Have you ever lived in a small town, td? With perhaps lots of elderly people? Elderly people who have difficulties getting around, who don’t own cars?
And you think it’s wrong to help those people get to the polls?
Do conservatives set out to intentionally drive people away from your values?
I did not see those buses running through those small towns they were running in such places as Cleveland, Philadelphia, Miami and Richmond.
Brosephus™ - Desktop but still Multitasking
February 27th, 2013
10:04 am
Damn right the VRA is still needed. The current rash of BS voter laws smack of early onset apartheid, American style. It’s not as much about race as it is wealthy vs poor. When you paint it that way, it’s easily dismissed. When you add the issue of race, then people start talking.
This goes above and beyond Blacks, but by ensuring everyone has equal and open access to the ballot, it will indeed help Blacks. I just can’t wait for the bigot generation to disappear.
—————
the form of voting that is disproportionately used by African-Americans
Anyone got an opinion as to why?
Work. The fear of getting fired does things to people, especially when you’re likely the first one out the door.
According to BLS unemployment rate for whites is 7.2, for blacks it’s 13.8. (2012
See statement above. Blacks have always known that you’re the last hired and the first fired. If you have a job, you do what you have to in order to keep that job. Early voting allows one to vote around the work schedule without missing time and losing money.
Also, there are still many people living who marched across the Edmund Pettus Bridge in Selma. They know fecal matter when they smell it. When there are continued attempts to curtail or minimize the effect of your voting block, you want to make sure to get your vote out there. That’s one of the reasons I’m so invested in voting laws and such. There are some who are trying to hold onto power by eliminating the opposition vote, but people like me will not let that happen.
kayaker 71
February 27th, 2013
10:04 am
$35 for a valid ID? Wonder if you can put that on your EBT card?
Look before I leap...
February 27th, 2013
10:05 am
“Gen Norman Schwarzkopf, the Gulf war commander who now lives in Florida, – ”
Stormin’ Norman passed away 2 months ago.
Do you ever actually read the crap you cut and paste without attribute day in and day out?
td
February 27th, 2013
10:06 am
Doggone/GA
February 27th, 2013
10:01 am
Stay blind and uninformed if you choose to and continue to back up the stereotype of the typical Democratic voter. Poor, uneducated, not knowing history and not understanding economics.
Brosephus™ - Desktop but still Multitasking
February 27th, 2013
10:07 am
Partisay:
Did the Democrats try to block that legislation back then or not ?
Yep, Scout, Conservative Southern Democrats tried to block that legislation. That same Conservative group is now GOP and is no longer Democratic Party members. What’s your point?
Partisay
February 27th, 2013
10:07 am
“My wife even said ‘those two slept together’ while watching the show with me.”
I always thought she was a fluzzy (sp). Sorry for the misspelling…have never typed that word before.
And wives can usually tell those kind of things….
alex
February 27th, 2013
10:07 am
No, granny I have not, I ask the question because there is a great interest, worldwide(at least the Brits) in borrowing the Obama campaigns technique for getting the vote out, social media excetera, when does social media etc. begin to influence voting in an intrusive way, Again, bad wording…
Doggone/GA
February 27th, 2013
10:07 am
“Stay blind and uninformed if you choose to and continue to back up the stereotype of the typical Democratic voter. Poor, uneducated, not knowing history and not understanding economics – See more at: http://blogs.ajc.com/jay-bookman-blog/2013/02/27/sadly-the-federal-voting-rights-act-still-has-work-to-do/?cp=2#comment-1244862”
In other word, no you don’t have proof
Gator Joe
February 27th, 2013
10:08 am
The Right Wing in this country won’t need to worry about the “47%” once they complete their disenfranchisement scams. They’ll be successful for a time, but the tide of changing demograpics will eventually push them, and their discredited ideology aside.
Bernie
February 27th, 2013
10:08 am
td @ 10:01 am – Herman Cain and the other African American conservatives are the biggest FOOLs of ALL. You are even a bigger fool for tursting them, for they are using you and your ILK for their own personal gain at the expense of all others. This is an old game that was first established when the
GOOD SHIP JESUS first docked in America.
One Slave in chains, flashed a broad TOOTHY GRIN and said to the slave holders as he departed the ship and replied ” WHAT A FINE DAY,WE HAVE HERE,SUH”S!
That was the first African American conservative in America! The slave holders laughed and agreed that SLAVE was different and smarter!
Doggone/GA
February 27th, 2013
10:09 am
“in borrowing the Obama campaigns technique for getting the vote out, social media excetera, when does social media etc. begin to influence voting in an intrusive way – See more at: http://blogs.ajc.com/jay-bookman-blog/2013/02/27/sadly-the-federal-voting-rights-act-still-has-work-to-do/?cp=2#comment-1244873”
I have some bad news for you. ALL campaigning is MEANT to “influence voting in an intrusive way” It’s how politicians get their message out.
td
February 27th, 2013
10:09 am
Look before I leap…
February 27th, 2013
10:05 am
“Gen Norman Schwarzkopf, the Gulf war commander who now lives in Florida, – ”
Stormin’ Norman passed away 2 months ago.
Do you ever actually read the crap you cut and paste without attribute day in and day out?
If you actually read the cite then you would have seen:
“By Stephen Robinson in Washington and Toby Harnden in Tallahassee
12:00AM GMT 20 Nov 2000″
You want to bash instead of becoming educated. Yet another example of the uninformed voter.
Morality?
February 27th, 2013
10:10 am
100% of the time dead folks only vote DEM.
Doggone/GA
February 27th, 2013
10:11 am
“100% of the time dead folks only vote DEM.”
got proof?
F. Sinkwich
February 27th, 2013
10:11 am
The VRA is obsolete. It remains law only to provide Yankees and associated local vermin the illusion of superiority over those they feel are lower life forms: Southerners.
southpaw
February 27th, 2013
10:12 am
“Today, Georgia’s voter ID law is cited by many conservatives and even some liberals as a national model.”
To the surprise of liberals everywhere, conservative Georgia leaders learned from, and fixed, their mistake. Georgia now has it right. So it’s time either to take Georgia off the list of locations under VRA jurisdiction or expand the Act to the whole country.
By the way, how did Republicans not even born (I think the phrase was “waiting to be born”) block anything? My grandchildren haven’t supported or opposed any legislation–probably because I have no grandchildren.
Doggone/GA
February 27th, 2013
10:13 am
“The VRA is obsolete”
got proof?
td
February 27th, 2013
10:13 am
Bernie
February 27th, 2013
10:08 am
Yep, those slave owners today are the rich white liberal elitist that continue to pay the Jesse Jackson, Al Sharpton, NAACP and others to remain the field bosses and to keep people on the plantation picking and fetching for them.
stands for decibels
February 27th, 2013
10:14 am
oh, and as long as I am smiting td:
For you not to have heard this speaks volumes about the uninformed voter
What, pray tell, makes you think I’ve never heard this whiny-arsed teaty baby assertion, this pathetic “Johnny does it too!” line of attack?
My god, it was hauled out for a repeat performance in 2012, when Romney ran a smear campaign over the Justice dept.’s efforts to ensure voting rights in Ohio (here’s one of many accounts I could cite.)
The great part of this ridiculous assertion is, it’s a two-fer.
Not only does it deflect away from actual disenfranchisement of actual voters, it plays into nonsense that Democrats are “anti-military,” so much so that they’re trying to keep members of the Armed Services from voting because OF COURSE actual SOLDIERS are tooootally Republican.
kayaker 71
February 27th, 2013
10:14 am
What is the purpose of states enforcing their voting laws in any election? To ensure that those who vote are entitled to vote. Why are these laws supported more by Republicans than Democrats? Usually those that would break that law and trust are Democrats and traditionally have been throughout our whole voting history. Who do you think that the average illegal latino is going to vote for? You don’t have to answer that.
Doggone/GA
February 27th, 2013
10:14 am
“Georgia now has it right. So it’s time either to take Georgia off the list of locations under VRA jurisdiction or expand the Act to the whole country. – See more at: http://blogs.ajc.com/jay-bookman-blog/2013/02/27/sadly-the-federal-voting-rights-act-still-has-work-to-do/?cp=2#comment-1244882”
and as Jay deomonstrated, the reason it is NOT time to take Georgia off the list is because it took the VRA to force GA to GET IT RIGHT.
Common Sense is Uncommon
February 27th, 2013
10:15 am
When it comes to Obama, pay no attention to what he says and only watch his actions to know the truth of his intentions. Just yesterday, while scaring ship builders in Virginia during one of his dishonest “dog and pony” shows, while using the sequester crisis he caused, as a ruse to increase taxes, he let the truth be known about the real impact of sequester. While the Democrat controlled press ignores reality while spreading the administration propaganda the president’s actions undermine their attempted cover up. While lying to the Virginia ship builders president Obama dispatched John Kerry to the Middle East to inform the Syrian reberls that the Obama adminnistration had plenty of money to provide them with non lethal aide. So, the truth is either the president is willing to lay off ship builders to provide funds to a foreign uprising or he has extra monery just laiyng around for his personal use. BTW how much will the White House reduce their Travel and Vacation schedule becasue of sequestration? Huh?
southpaw
February 27th, 2013
10:15 am
Doggone –
How many times are you going to link to your earlier comments?
td
February 27th, 2013
10:15 am
Doggone/GA
February 27th, 2013
10:11 am
“100% of the time dead folks only vote DEM.”
got proof?
Another example of being uninformed since that one has been proven many times as well.
Ronin
February 27th, 2013
10:17 am
Kam @ 10:01, yep
and that’s without the “stud” pill
Agent Jay is a nice guy, just like MIB, he’s from another planet/alternate reality.
Doggone/GA
February 27th, 2013
10:17 am
“How many times are you going to link to your earlier comments? – See more at: http://blogs.ajc.com/jay-bookman-blog/2013/02/27/sadly-the-federal-voting-rights-act-still-has-work-to-do/?cp=2#comment-1244886”
As many times as it takes. It’s not ME doing that, it happens everytime I copy something and it’s damned annoying.
Doggone/GA
February 27th, 2013
10:18 am
“Another example of being uninformed since that one has been proven many times as well – See more at: http://blogs.ajc.com/jay-bookman-blog/2013/02/27/sadly-the-federal-voting-rights-act-still-has-work-to-do/?cp=2#comment-1244891”
In other words, you don’t have any proof
Welcome to the Occupation
February 27th, 2013
10:18 am
Common sense: ” While lying to the Virginia ship builders president Obama dispatched John Kerry to the Middle East to inform the Syrian reberls that the Obama adminnistration had plenty of money to provide them with non lethal aide. So, the truth is either the president is willing to lay off ship builders to provide funds to a foreign uprising or he has extra monery just laiyng around for his personal use”
Well, not his own personal use, but that of the oligarchs he serves. So you’re half right there.
Life under an imperialist oligarchy ain’t all it’s cracked up to be, is it, Common?
stands for decibels
February 27th, 2013
10:18 am
How many times are you going to link to your earlier comments?
She’s not–she’s (deliberately?) leaving in a link you get whenever you copy/paste more than one line of a previous comment.
This is, I think, a pretty nasty bug. It is fine to have such an automatic URL insertion when quoting from Jay’s original blog–the ajc is entitled to get their due when people quote their columnists elsewhere–but from commenters themselves? That’s overkill.
I said “deliberately?” with a question mark since maybe DGA is leaving that in to make a point to the ajc’s IT folks that this is ANNOYINGGGGGG.
southpaw
February 27th, 2013
10:19 am
Doggone @10:14
As judges in South Carolina and Texas demonstrated, Georgia law is a good standard to use. That’s why it IS time to remove Georgia from VRA jurisdiction.
Ronin
February 27th, 2013
10:21 am
Granny, where are you? stomping Tokyo or battling mega moth?
Have no fear, Ultra man is near….
stands for decibels
February 27th, 2013
10:21 am
Jay is a nice guy, just like MIB, he’s from another planet/alternate reality.
Hey, ronin, a polite request, one I’ve mad of another guy who claimed Jay’s opinions were “far outside of the mainstream.”
How about some examples?
Which of his positions on major issues are “from another planet,” which I am interpreting to mean, positions that are only held by a fringe group of (presumably) hard-lefties?
I’d expect some kind of polling data to support whatever example you give. If you can find something Jay’s asserted that doesn’t enjoy, say, at least 35% support among the general public, I’d really like to know about it. Hell, let’s say 40%. Make it “easy” for ya.
go ahead. Let me know. I want to hear, really, I do.
TaxPayer
February 27th, 2013
10:22 am
So. Scout votes Republican now because southern Democrats of that time voted against the voting rights act. I can believe that.
Brosephus™ - Desktop but still Multitasking
February 27th, 2013
10:23 am
Another example of being uninformed since that one has been proven many times as well.
Shorter: I found a link at pulledoutofmyass.org
Chip
February 27th, 2013
10:23 am
Jay, the Supreme Court case, as I understand it, is about Section 5, not the entire law. I get the value of having a federal Voting Rights Act, but why do we need the pre-review mandates of Section 5 as they apply to only some states? Voter ID laws can and have been challenged in court in states not covered by Section 5’s pre-review, so those laws themselves don’t make the case for keeping Section 5. And the abuses cited in the comments reach far beyond the South (Ohio being one prominent example). Election problems are not limited to the South. So why should Section 5, which targets Southern states, remain as is? Either pre-review should apply to all 50 states, or it should be removed.
curious
February 27th, 2013
10:23 am
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
“The federal Voting Rights Act was passed in 1965, in the aftermath of a bloody assault on voting-rights protesters in Selma, Ala..
And who tried to block it ?”
“DEMOCRATS !”
Surely you’re old enough and smart enough to know that those Democrats trying to block the law where Southern Conservatives that belonged to the Democratic party. They’ve since migrated to the Republican Party.
The reason the South was solid Democratic was the left over animosity toward Lincoln, Republicans, and the Civil War.
Brosephus™: You can't stop my vote, Homie!!
February 27th, 2013
10:25 am
I said “deliberately?” with a question mark since maybe DGA is leaving that in to make a point to the ajc’s IT folks that this is ANNOYINGGGGGG.
She is. Funny thing is, I get that link when using the tablet but not when using the pc.
td
February 27th, 2013
10:25 am
“Between 8 November and 12 December 2000, myriad technical ballot issues were discussed and debated over the airwaves and litigated in the courts. Among those issues were “butterfly” ballots, hanging, dangling, and impregnated chads, and absent postmarks on absentee military ballots. Issues surrounding the military vote quickly became a political football as the Democrats sought to disqualify as many overseas ballots as possible and Republicans sought the reverse. Some observers characterized the votes of hundreds of servicemen and women as “flawed,”6 whereas others decried the disenfranchisement of countless patriotic citizens through no fault of their own.7 A Democratic operative wrote a memorandum detailing the grounds on which to disqualify overseas ballots causing howls of protests that led Senator Lieberman, the Democratic vice presidential candidate, to effectively disavow the strategy.8 Nevertheless, the discrepancy of military overseas votes accepted by Republican-dominated counties and those rejected by Democrat-dominated counties is striking. According to a commentary in the Wall Street Journal,
A total of 356 overseas military ballots were disallowed due to postmark challenges and another 157 because there was no independent record of requests for state absentee ballots. Combined with other causes, a total of 788 military absentee ballots were rejected. In Bush counties, 29 percent of overseas ballots were disallowed, but the figure was 60 percent in Gore counties; in pliant Broward, the Gore kill rate was 77 percent.9 ”
http://www.servicemembers-lawcenter.org/LAW_REVIEW_109.html
Doggone/GA
February 27th, 2013
10:26 am
“As judges in South Carolina and Texas demonstrated, Georgia law is a good standard to use. That’s why it IS time to remove Georgia from VRA jurisdiction. – See more at: http://blogs.ajc.com/jay-bookman-blog/2013/02/27/sadly-the-federal-voting-rights-act-still-has-work-to-do/?cp=2#comment-1244892”
and, again, it wouldn’t BE so good if not for the VRA. We still need the VRA to ensure that some jerk in GA doesn’t get a wild hair to change it to something stupid again.
Brosephus™: You can't stop my vote, Homie!!
February 27th, 2013
10:26 am
And the abuses cited in the comments reach far beyond the South (Ohio being one prominent example). Election problems are not limited to the South. So why should Section 5, which targets Southern states, remain as is?
Without that challenge, Georgia’s law would not be what it is, that’s why it should remain. Honestly, I think it should remain as long as anybody born in the 1960’s is still breathing.
Doggone/GA
February 27th, 2013
10:28 am
“Funny thing is, I get that link when using the tablet but not when using the pc – See more at: http://blogs.ajc.com/jay-bookman-blog/2013/02/27/sadly-the-federal-voting-rights-act-still-has-work-to-do/?cp=3#sthash.p6Toc5NY.dpuf”
and I get it on both PCs that I use!
Nero
February 27th, 2013
10:29 am
The quid pro quo from the Obamacare ruling is upon us. Section 5 is unconstitutional and is toast. SCOTUS will formulate a limited ruling and strike it while leaving the rest unchanged. There will be a lot of whining and prognostications of doom and how minority voting rights are on their last legs. Then the naysayers will be shown to be fools as the people move on with their lives and continue to vote like they have for the last 48 years. Section 5 is in it’s death spiral.
Real Scootter
February 27th, 2013
10:29 am
As many times as it takes. It’s not ME doing that, it happens everytime I copy something and it’s damned annoying.
Doggone,
I’m having the same problem. Do you have any idea why this is happening?
indigo
February 27th, 2013
10:30 am
The Voting Rights Act and Affirmative Action were given to African-Americans when they needed it, many years ago. Those who say we still need these things are, in effect, saying America is in a permanent grip of white racism. I do not believe this to be true.
However, common sense will tell you that, once a group of people get special treatment, a sizable number of them will NEVER voluntarily give it up and will insist on the need of it’s continuance.
Unfortunately, common sense is becomming less and less common here.
Brosephus™: You can't stop my vote, Homie!!
February 27th, 2013
10:32 am
And Nero’s on board with Apartheid, American Style™
You gotta maintain your power and superiority by any means necessary.
Cherokee
February 27th, 2013
10:32 am
“Cleveland, Philadelphia, Miami and Richmond”
And there are no poor elderly folks in those places?
And of course, you didn’t ’see’ them at all…just heard about them, likely from Rush or Sean…
ND
February 27th, 2013
10:32 am
Forget voter ID — look no further than the antics pulled by Virginia’s legislature recently for proof of why the Voting Rights Act is still necessary.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/01/22/virginia-redistricting_n_2528519.html
Doggone/GA
February 27th, 2013
10:33 am
“I’m having the same problem. Do you have any idea why this is happening? – See more at: http://blogs.ajc.com/jay-bookman-blog/2013/02/27/sadly-the-federal-voting-rights-act-still-has-work-to-do/?cp=3#comment-1244908”
Nope, I don’t. It started for me sometime yesterday. I know a lot of new sites have that added if you copy from them, this is the first time I’ve ever run into it on a blog of any kind.
jhunt163
February 27th, 2013
10:33 am
I still think they should de-couple Presidential elections from House and Senate elections. Let the State legislature appoint a slate of electors like the Constitution instructs them to. Then maybe people will finally be able to recognize who their local state Congressmen and Senators are. This would also prevent current and future Presidents from spending over two years in an election mode.
williebkind
February 27th, 2013
10:33 am
“Why do you despise democracy so much, Scout?”
Well, I am not speaking for Scout but we are not a “DEMOCRACY” we are a REPRESENTED GOVERNMENT of the people for the people by the people. You liberals just want to change it to fit your life styles. Many find that vile and disgusting.
stands for decibels
February 27th, 2013
10:34 am
According to a commentary in the Wall Street Journal,
ha ha ha ha ha.
Oh, you are high-larious, td. The WSJ’s opinion pages? The same folks who dubbed people too poor to pay income taxes as “luckie duckies” back in 2002?
Oscar
February 27th, 2013
10:35 am
Curious – History did not start with Licoln and the civil war. The south was voting democrat long before thewar for southern independence began. Look up the history.
curious
February 27th, 2013
10:35 am
Ronin
“The truth is, no person that receives government assistance should be allowed to vote,”
That’ll purge the rolls pretty good. No telling how many farmers, young military families, students, people in nursing homes paid for with medicaid, etc will fall by the wayside.
Heck, with that approach, we’ll accelerate the Country on a path to revolution.
Brosephus™: You can't stop my vote, Homie!!
February 27th, 2013
10:35 am
Those who say we still need these things are, in effect, saying America is in a permanent grip of white racism. I do not believe this to be true.
However, common sense will tell you that, once a group of people get special treatment, a sizable number of them will NEVER voluntarily give it up and will insist on the need of it’s continuance.
So, when are you White people going to voluntarily give up the idea that America is your’s and your’s only? The sooner you get rid of that attitude, the sooner nobody needs any “special” protections. The protections are there because of the action of Whites, not the minorities.
Nero
February 27th, 2013
10:35 am
Federal voter ID provisions should be proposed that are based on Georgia’s standards. It’s passing constitutional muster in the courts, and will eliminate the national disparity amongst the states.
Doggone/GA
February 27th, 2013
10:35 am
“However, common sense will tell you that, once a group of people get special treatment – See more at: http://blogs.ajc.com/jay-bookman-blog/2013/02/27/sadly-the-federal-voting-rights-act-still-has-work-to-do/?cp=3#comment-1244916”
so now it’s “special treatment” to protect the Constitutional rights of ALL citizens. Guess again.
stands for decibels
February 27th, 2013
10:35 am
we are not a “DEMOCRACY” we are a REPRESENTED GOVERNMENT
Yet another reason we need the VRA.
TBS
February 27th, 2013
10:36 am
“Stay blind and uninformed if you choose to and continue to back up the stereotype of the typical Democratic voter. Poor, uneducated, not knowing history and not understanding economics.”
Why are you projecting onto others the exact same thing you were doing last night. Heck you are pretty close to reciting the same lines you did when YOU depicted Democrat voters..
Oh the irony. td puts it on everything from his fruit loops, pies to his greens
Bernie
February 27th, 2013
10:36 am
td @ 10:01 am – if there is an organization that provides medical care for your type of mental Illness, please let me know…I would like to write to a check to them and make a donation.
UNCLE SAMANTHA
February 27th, 2013
10:36 am
SO REPUBLICANS ARE REALLY DEMOCRATS
THAT EXPLAINS EVERYTHING
Oscar
February 27th, 2013
10:37 am
Willie, Willie Willie. Get over it. We are a democracy – a representative democracy.
williebkind
February 27th, 2013
10:37 am
The voting rights act did do some good things but it turned into pushing the minority over the majority, creating a vast ill informed, and using civil rights not to make one equal but to give themselves total power. This act has outlived its usefulness and the nine states should be treated equally with the rest of the union. We know the federal government will use any excuse to continue punishing the south.
Doggone/GA
February 27th, 2013
10:37 am
“Well, I am not speaking for Scout but we are not a “DEMOCRACY” we are a REPRESENTED GOVERNMENT of the people for the people by the people – See more at: http://blogs.ajc.com/jay-bookman-blog/2013/02/27/sadly-the-federal-voting-rights-act-still-has-work-to-do/?cp=3#comment-1244924”
Yep, we’re a representative democracy
Nero
February 27th, 2013
10:39 am
And Brosephus is on board with permanent minority crutch status.
Partisay
February 27th, 2013
10:39 am
Who has proven this many times? Ann Coulter?
Keyser Soze
February 27th, 2013
10:40 am
Republic or democracy?
http://thisnation.com/question/011.html
UNCLE SAMANTHA
February 27th, 2013
10:41 am
ONCE THE REPUBLICAN PARTY KICKS OUT THE DEMOCRATS……… THEIR PARTY WILL BE JUST FINE
UNCLE SAMANTHA
February 27th, 2013
10:42 am
LOCAL DEMOCRATS WHO ARE NOW REPUBLICANS
SONNY PURDUE
NATHAN DEAL
AND THAT IS WHY DEMOCRATS COMPLAIN ABOUT SONNY AND NATHAN…… THEY HATE DEMOCRATS TOO
Brosephus™: You can't stop my vote, Homie!!
February 27th, 2013
10:42 am
And Brosephus is on board with permanent minority crutch status.
Nope, I’m actually trying to save y’all White folks when you’re the minority. Do you think you can have a history of death and discrimination such as American Whites and expect to get favorable treatment as a minority when the oppressed become the majority? I like to think and see the best in people, but human nature rules the day.
Every minority protection you do away with will be one your descendents may have to fight to obtain in the future. My goal is to make that fight unnecessary.
Real Scootter
February 27th, 2013
10:42 am
Nope, I don’t. It started for me sometime yesterday. I know a lot of new sites have that added if you copy from them, this is the first time I’ve ever run into it on a blog of any kind.
Same here Doggone! I just started deleting it from the comment that I copy as you can see above.And it is annoying!
td
February 27th, 2013
10:42 am
More proof that the LSM is nothing more then the propaganda arm of the Obama administration. Protecting the first lady from looking like a fool is now the mission:
For the broadcast, ABC’s Good Morning America producers edited out the first lady’s “automatic weapon” line.
“She was standing out in a park with her friends in a neighborhood blocks away from where my kids grow – grew – up, where our house is. And she was caught in the line of fire. I just don’t want to keep disappointing our kids in this country. I want them to know that we put them first.”
In the web edition of the story, however, Michelle Obama appears to be quoted in full:
“She was standing out in a park with her friends in a neighborhood blocks away from where my kids…grew up, where our house is. She had just taken a chemistry test. And she was caught in the line of fire because some kids had some automatic weapons they didn’t need,” she said. “I just don’t want to keep disappointing our kids in this country. I want them to know that we put them first.”
http://washingtonexaminer.com/abc-defends-editing-michelle-obamas-automatic-weapon-claim/article/2522628
Oscar
February 27th, 2013
10:43 am
I have been voting early for yyears. Beats standing in long lines on election day.
My guess is that’s the reason minority voters do it. Some voting areas have way to few voting machines and places to vote for the number of voters, so the lines are extremely long. Many in minotrity aress, and not just in the south. And sometimes the machines don’t work. Think maybe that happens on purpose to keep them from voting. So they try to get around tht by voting early.
Doggone/GA
February 27th, 2013
10:43 am
“I just started deleting it from the comment that I copy as you can see above.And it is annoying! – See more at: http://blogs.ajc.com/jay-bookman-blog/2013/02/27/sadly-the-federal-voting-rights-act-still-has-work-to-do/?cp=3#comment-1244934”
I did too, but that got old REAL quick. So I’m taking that attitude that the AJC wants it there…so they’re going to get it there!
Nero
February 27th, 2013
10:44 am
Brocephus: “Help! Help! I’m being repressed!”
http://youtu.be/GS_1bzaj2fw
Welcome to the Occupation
February 27th, 2013
10:44 am
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801 : “Off to the dog park ”
May it be festooned with turds!
Oscar
February 27th, 2013
10:45 am
Soze – We are both a democracy and a republic. They are not mutually exclusive.
Jerome Horwitz
February 27th, 2013
10:45 am
Hey Kam – Going to catch the Blues this PM? 2:30 on Fox Soccer.
Joe Hussein Mama
February 27th, 2013
10:45 am
Hey, Scootter, I didn’t see your question to me last evening until this morning, So I’ve left you a reply a couple floors downstairs:
http://blogs.ajc.com/jay-bookman-blog/2013/02/26/drug-testing-of-welfare-applicants-violates-constitution/?cp=7#comment-1244784
Oscar
February 27th, 2013
10:46 am
Welcome – Wash your mouth out with soap – now.
curious
February 27th, 2013
10:47 am
Oscar
The debate over slavery began long before the Civil war and the Republican Party didn’t come into existence until shortly before the war.
st simons - he-ne-ha
February 27th, 2013
10:48 am
down heah in Fla, the church buses can rouuund em up, tote ‘em to the
polls and feed & campaign ‘em right up to the front door of the polling
place, which if the locals can arrange it, is (you guessed it) a church.
It is a TRAVESTY the cons legislated to stop this practice!
Oh wait…. they didn’t…..
Jerome Horwitz
February 27th, 2013
10:49 am
Looking forward to the day that the US reaches minority majority status and the right wingers here are sreaming for protection from that new majority. When that day comes I hope you’ll have compassion on me for supporting your rights when others advocated taking them away.
Brosephus™: You can't stop my vote, Homie!!
February 27th, 2013
10:49 am
td
You’re late to the “automatic weapon” whinefest. Scout started that yesterday or whenever that stuff got posted on their website. Seems as though you’ve dropped down on the email chain list. Not getting the talking points hot and fresh anymore, huh?
————–
Nero
You may think I’m joking, but I’m serious. There was an experiment done a while back where there was a role reversal or something like that, and the ones that were oppressed turned worse when they were in charge. Human nature is a beast that can’t be tamed easily.
Lord Help Us
February 27th, 2013
10:50 am
‘May it be festooned with turds!’
I can guarantee that I least one large specimen will be there…
TBS
February 27th, 2013
10:51 am
Florida shortened the number of early voting days.
How did that work?
On to the next excuse
williebkind
February 27th, 2013
10:52 am
“Willie, Willie Willie. Get over it. We are a democracy – a representative democracy.”
No no no, you should stop trying to change the greatest country that ever existed for you personal life styles.
curious
February 27th, 2013
10:55 am
From Wikipedia:
“The United States Republican Party is the second oldest existing political party in the US after its great rival, the Democratic Party. It emerged in 1854 to combat the Kansas Nebraska Act which threatened to extend slavery into the territories ; It had almost no presence in the South, but by 1858 in the North it had enlisted former Whigs and former Free Soil Democrats to form majorities in nearly every Northern state.
With its election of Abraham Lincoln in 1860, and its success in guiding the Union to victory and abolishing slavery, it came to dominate the national scene until 1932. The Republican Party was based on northern white Protestants, businessmen, professionals, factory workers, farmers, and African-Americans. It was pro-business, supporting banks, the gold standard, railroads, and tariffs to protect industrial workers and industry.
The GOP expanded its base throughout the South after 1968 (except for 1976), largely due to its strength among socially conservative white Evangelical Protestants angered by desegregation.”
Nero
February 27th, 2013
10:57 am
Brocephus,
I look forward to my future status as a minority. If you feel the need for some angry black man revenge by becoming the exact thing your side rails about, then I wish you luck. Just remember your advice when the Latino tidal wave swallows you as well.
moonbat betty
February 27th, 2013
10:57 am
“Looking forward to the day that the US reaches minority majority status and the right wingers here are sreaming for protection from that new majority. When that day comes I hope you’ll have compassion on me for supporting your rights when others advocated taking them away.”
I guess if you are a European-American, you will have to wear a “D” on your forehead?
Real Scootter
February 27th, 2013
10:57 am
Joe Hussein Mama
February 27th, 2013
10:45 am
Thanks JHM! Yes,they do sound plausible.Sorry that I have poor reading skills,I was having a hard time keeping up with y’all’s conversation. That’s why I asked that question of you.Thanks again!
Joe Hussein Mama
February 27th, 2013
10:59 am
Scootter — no worries, buddy
In my book, polite questions deserve polite replies.
Redcoat
February 27th, 2013
10:59 am
Who is it now that says they can’t vote?
Joe Hussein Mama
February 27th, 2013
10:59 am
Sheets!
moonbat betty
February 27th, 2013
10:59 am
What a lot of the European-American dems don’t realize that as the minority base increases, there is actually more friction between African-Americans and Latino-Americans.
td
February 27th, 2013
11:00 am
TBS
February 27th, 2013
10:51 am
Florida shortened the number of early voting days.
How did that work?
On to the next excuse
And those early voting days need to be shortened even further. One weekend (Fri, Sat Sun) to vote in person with a photo id. Only absentee ballots are for those that can have a certified reason from their place of employment or serving in the military.
If people can not take the responsibility of the above then they should not vote.
Partisay
February 27th, 2013
11:01 am
td – More proof that the LSM is nothing more then the propaganda arm of the Obama administration.
td..your just still mad the LSM didn’t edit out or fix some of these past comments from a former president
For every fatal shooting, there were roughly three non-fatal shootings. And, folks, this is unacceptable in America. It’s just unacceptable. And we’re going to do something about it.
May 14, 2001
I know what I believe. I will continue to articulate what I believe and what I believe – I believe what I believe is right.
July 11, 2001
I’m also not very analytical. You know I don’t spend a lot of time thinking about myself, about why I do things.
June 4, 2003
The important question is, how many hands have I shaked.
Oct 22, 1999
Tribal sovereignty means just that, it’s sovereign. You’re a — you’ve been given sovereignty, and you’re viewed as a sovereign entity. And, therefore, the relationship between the federal government and tribes is one between sovereign entities.
Auguest 6, 2004
I miss W
JKL2
February 27th, 2013
11:01 am
joe mama- her behavior is all an act, calculated to sell books and personal appearances
Well said. I love her articles but hate to see her in person. As for credibility, I dare anyone to site another author who footnotes more than she does. Unlike most of her critics, her bibliographies are legendary.
Granny Godzilla
February 27th, 2013
11:01 am
Ronin
In my youth I did do some Tokyo stomping but as I grew I made it my mission to save the world.
Hard work, gotta’ do it.
Wouldn’t be prudent not to save the world.
JKL2
February 27th, 2013
11:03 am
-Jay Bookman Sadly, the federal Voting Rights Act still has work to do
Where’s Jimmy Carter when you need him…
UNCLE SAMANTHA
February 27th, 2013
11:04 am
Willie
YOU CAN LEAD A LIBERAL TO KNOWLEDGE….. BUT YOU CANT MAKE THEM COMPREHEND
Is the United States a democracy?
The Pledge of Allegiance includes the phrase: “and to the republic for which it stands.” Is the United States of America a republic? I always thought it was a democracy? What’s the difference between the two?
The United States is, indeed, a republic, not a democracy. Accurately defined, a democracy is a form of government in which the people decide policy matters directly–through town hall meetings or by voting on ballot initiatives and referendums. A republic, on the other hand, is a system in which the people choose representatives who, in turn, make policy decisions on their behalf. The Framers of the Constitution were altogether fearful of pure democracy. Everything they read and studied taught them that pure democracies “have ever been spectacles of turbulence and contention; have ever been found incompatible with personal security or the rights of property; and have in general been as short in their lives as they have been violent in their deaths” (Federalist No. 10).
Redcoat
February 27th, 2013
11:04 am
Who is it now that says they can’t vote?………anyone?
indigo
February 27th, 2013
11:06 am
Brosephus – 10:35
I do not think America is mine and mine only. Nor do I know anyone who does.
Anytime I critize African-Americans here, you become incredibly paranoid and start seeing racists behind every tree.
Using “you White people” and “the action of Whites” in your post says a number of things about you, none of them good.
st simons - he-ne-ha
February 27th, 2013
11:06 am
Bro 10:42- wise shaman – “Nope, I’m actually trying to save y’all White
folks when you’re the minority.”
don’t tip em off, man [sharpening tommyhawk]
Brosephus™: You can't stop my vote, Homie!!
February 27th, 2013
11:08 am
curious
That Wiki entry seems a bit lacking. The first Blacks elected to national office were Southern Republicans elected after the Civil War. They were eventually run off by conservative White Republicans though.
williebkind
February 27th, 2013
11:09 am
Progressive Liberalism is a form of political thought and strategic governance that has its origins in the 16th century. It is a left-leaning political ideology that combines notions of individual liberty with government intervention to reform public life. It is basially the idea that liberalism should include social justice. There is some debate over whether “Progressives” and “Liberals” are one and the same or separate strands of left-leaning politics. However, either way, their fundamental precepts
and goals are the same.
Barack Obama is generally considered to a Progressive Liberal. His reform of health provision in 2010 is seen as an archetypal Progressive Liberal act. This has produced both congratulation and criticism, depending on the commentators political allegiances. Obama’s investiture was seen as a return to Progressive liberalism after the laissez-faire policies of the Bush administration. In other countries, particularly Australia and Great Britain, Progressive Liberalism is now seen as a centrist position, a “Third Way” between traditional right and left politics.
Progressive Liberalism stands for a combination of securing individual freedom and government intervention in the management of social institutions and law-making for the good of everyone, regardless of their social or economic position. It is usually considered to be in opposition to the more right-wing, laissez-faire political ideology that seeks to limit government intervention in people’s lives as much as possible, believing that market forces should be the determining factor in social development. As Jonathan Marshall wrote, progressive liberals are “not content to rely on the laws of God or the market place for social progress.”
And It was started by Theodore Roosevelt in 1912. Not a very old traditional party but a party of self.
indigo
February 27th, 2013
11:11 am
Doggone/GA – 10:35
Did you ever hear of the 15th Ammendment to the Constitution?
Redcoat
February 27th, 2013
11:12 am
Who is it now that says they can’t vote?………anyone care to answer the question?……..How about this question…..should non-citizens vote and why?
Brosephus™: You can't stop my vote, Homie!!
February 27th, 2013
11:16 am
Nero
I’ll likely be the Black guy saving your ass from the hordes, but dream as you think you should in order to make you feel better. I’m just delivering the warning message. I may have to worry about Hispanics, but Blacks haven’t repressed them. On the other hand, Whites have done as such to Blacks, Asians, Hispanics, First Nation members, and almost every other group that has come to the US.
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betty: What a lot of the European-American dems don’t realize that as the minority base increases, there is actually more friction between African-Americans and Latino-Americans.
One has to remember the old saying, “the enemy of my enemy is my friend.” I doubt friction between Blacks and Hispanics will ever exceed the frictions between those groups and Whites.
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indigo: I do not think America is mine and mine only. Nor do I know anyone who does.
Anytime I critize African-Americans here, you become incredibly paranoid and start seeing racists behind every tree.
I did not say YOU personally, dumbass. Anytime you criticize BLACK Americans, I’m not a naturalized citizen, I call you out on your sh*t. I did it when you used the screen name Carlos, and I’ll do it when you change names again. Nowhere have I used the word racists. I’m simply calling human nature for what it is. There have been numerous studies done that will back me up. If you don’t want me to come down on you, then don’t set yourself up for it by posting dumb sh*t.
curious
February 27th, 2013
11:16 am
Brosephus™: You can’t stop my vote, Homie!!
February 27th, 2013
11:08 am
curious
“That Wiki entry seems a bit lacking. The first Blacks elected to national office were Southern Republicans elected after the Civil War. They were eventually run off by conservative White Republicans though.”
There weren’t any Southern white republicans immediately after the Civil war. The blacks were more or less elected to office by carpetbaggers who disenfranchised most southerners.
williebkind
February 27th, 2013
11:23 am
“hat Wiki entry seems a bit lacking. The first Blacks elected to national office were Southern Republicans elected after the Civil War. They were eventually run off by conservative White Republicans though.”
curious, some people keep blaming white republicans for all discrimination when it was in FACT democrats. Oh I know they changed sides is the excuse to save face.
jconservative
February 27th, 2013
11:24 am
The Voting Rights Bill was last extended for 25 years in 2006 by the Republican controlled House and the Republican controlled Senate and signed into law by President G W Bush. The vote in the House was 390-33 and the Senate vote was 98 – 0.
Now the Supreme Court gets to vote. Over the years the Chief Justice has shown a reluctance to overrule legislation passed by the “people’s representatives” in the legislatures. As an example see the Obamacare cases. Now we will find out if the Chief Justice is true to his history in view of the overwhelming vote for the legislation by the “people’s representatives”.
Personally, I believe every adult residing in the United States on election day should be able to vote, be he/she citizen, alien or something in between. It is impossible to live in the US without paying some kind of tax. And I believe all should be able to vote for those who decide how much tax one must pay.
Brosephus™: You can't stop my vote, Homie!!
February 27th, 2013
11:30 am
There weren’t any Southern white republicans immediately after the Civil war.
http://www.texasgop.org/overview-and-history
Today’s Republican Party was founded in 1854 by a group of Mid-Western abolitionists opposed to the Kansas-Nebraska Bill, which allowed a choice of slavery in the new territories of Kansas and Nebraska. Texas, which had become a state in 1845, was right in the middle of the heated slavery controversy. Most state leaders were Democrats prior to the Civil War, and thus supported the pro-slavery Confederacy. But President Abraham Lincoln, the first Republican president, gained the support of Texas Republicans and several prominent state leaders, like Sam Houston, Texas’ first Governor. However, most of those who decided to support Lincoln’s decision to defend the Union were forced from office, and Democrats succeeded in allying Texas with the Confederacy.
Go back and google the Lily White Movement, and you’ll see that was the name given to the group of conservative White Republicans who drove Blacks out of the GOP.
Scuba Steve
February 27th, 2013
11:36 am
People like Nero exist, y’all. LOL gotta love these morons.
JKL2
February 27th, 2013
12:08 pm
Uncle Samantha- SO REPUBLICANS ARE REALLY DEMOCRATS
Yes, southern Democrats are now Republicans. Radical Democrats are now the mainstream party, and Radical Democrats are what we used to call communist/socialist/marxist. But somehow I’m now “out of touch” because any traditionally moderate(from either party) or mainstream Republican is now called a right wing radical.
independent thinker
February 27th, 2013
12:55 pm
From today’s NY Times:
“”"A central provision of the Voting Rights Act of 1965 could be in peril, judging from tough questioning on Wednesday from the Supreme Court’s more conservative members.
The law, a landmark achievement of the civil rights era was challenged by Shelby County, Ala., which said that requirement had outlived its usefulness and imposed an unwarranted badge of shame on the affected jurisdictions.
Four of the nine-member court’s five more conservative members asked largely skeptical questions about the law. The fifth, Justice Clarence Thomas, did not ask a question, as is typical. Justice Antonin Scalia called the provision, which requires nine states, mostly in the South, to get federal permission before changing voting procedures, a “perpetuation of racial entitlement.” “”"”"”"”"”"
Scalia is at it as usual pushing the ultra conservative white racist views which the stupid party cherishes so dearly. Yeah keep disenfranchising those pesky Black voters who voted for the Black devil as president and now lets get a little help from the Supreme Court so that Scalia can help pick another George W. Bush clone in 2016. And of course the only Black member of the Court has nary a word to say but is ready to get his marching orders from Scalia.
Robert
February 27th, 2013
12:58 pm
John Lewis, a Democrat, represents Georgia’s 5th District in the U.S. House.
“On “Bloody Sunday,” nearly 50 years ago, Hosea Williams and I led 600 peaceful, nonviolent protesters attempting to march from Selma to Montgomery to dramatize the need for voting rights protection in Alabama. As we crossed the Edmund Pettus Bridge, we were attacked by state troopers who tear-gassed, clubbed and whipped us and trampled us with horses. I was hit in the head with a nightstick and suffered a concussion on the bridge. Seventeen marchers were hospitalized that day.
In response, President Lyndon Johnson introduced the Voting Rights Act and later signed it into law. We have come a great distance since then, in large part thanks to the act, but efforts to undermine the voting power of minorities did not end after 1965. They still persist today.
This week the Supreme Court will hear one of the most important cases in our generation, Shelby County v. Holder. At issue is Section 5 of the Voting Rights Act, which requires all or parts of 16 “covered” states with long histories and contemporary records of voting discrimination to seek approval from the federal government for voting changes. The court is questioning whether Section 5 remains a necessary remedy for ongoing discrimination.
In 2006, Congress debated this very question over 10 months. We held 21 hearings, heard from more than 90 witnesses and reviewed more than 15,000 pages of evidence. We analyzed voting patterns in and outside the 16 covered jurisdictions. We considered four amendments on the floor of the House; the Senate Judiciary Committee considered several others.
After all of that, Congress came to a near-unanimous conclusion: While some change has occurred, the places with a legacy of long-standing, entrenched and state-sponsored voting discrimination still have the most persistent, flagrant, contemporary records of discrimination in this country.”
Joe Hussein Mama
February 27th, 2013
1:22 pm
JKL — “As for credibility, I dare anyone to site another author who footnotes more than she does. Unlike most of her critics, her bibliographies are legendary.”
And her work is sloppy, too. Her bibliographies have been criticized many times as being not only inaccurate, but often completely fabricated. It seems that conservative readers simply take her at her word more often than not and never notice that items in her biblios are either incorrect or simply don’t exist at all.
bookman parrot
February 27th, 2013
1:54 pm
to Partisay,
i was pulling a lib and going over the top …
to Steve,
no i can not read (i guess jay didn’t make mention of curtailing minority voting and the big bad cons … oh i guess he did (albeit it is not a big bad conspiracy to be non inclusive… it is to keep you libs on the up and up), so i can read) esad!!!
Ronin
February 27th, 2013
4:17 pm
Granny @11:01, it is wise to spare Tokyo, monthra is coming next week.
Stands…..@10:21 always the bridesmaid, never the bride….That’s discombobulation of material fact.
Stands, one simply has to review and digest data to understand Agent Jay…
Again, nice guy, but off point of material issues.
Ronin
February 27th, 2013
6:24 pm
Where is Godzirra when you need her/him?????? appears to be hooked with mothman.
Stands, all bloviation aside, I’d go to lunch with Jay at the Standard Club, or even Taco Mac, just to debate the Fair tax issue, I’m more of a flat tax guy. Boortz, would not put him on to debate the issue, I want to know why.. Uncle Neal is a smart guy, as an attorney I’d give him the edge two fold over Agent Jay. The question is, will agent Jay get into the fray? for direct contact? As Yoda would say: me thinks not….
AJAY JAIN
March 4th, 2013
3:18 pm
The Voting Rights Act (VRA) must be upheld by the supreme court: Discrimination is alive today unfortunately; Liberty and justice for all is openly sabotaged and the Supreme Court is inviting trouble of great magnitudnal proportions if it dares to fail its ultimate mandate: to uphold everyone’s constitutional rights. We not only need to keep the protections in the current Voting Rights Act, it should be expanded. The numerous despicable attempts to restrict voting made during the last election cycle are proof of that. Anyone who truly believes the VRA is obsolete needs to recognize, given last years voter suppression efforts, the Jim Crowe era is biding its time, lurking in the shadows waiting for an opportunity to rear its head once again. The entire nation will speak against it because the Voting Rights Act (VRA) is not about political parties; the Voting Rights Act (VRA) is about individual rights protection. Bank on it! it is time to review; the Supreme Court’s “entitlements” as, it is no longer acting as an unbiased institution and that, your magistrates , can be amended. get up and do your job or we will make it happen! count on it! Now Even if you are dumb enough to believe that all is OK with the world and there are no reasons to have the voting rights law on the books. Then why are the the parties at opposite end’s on this ? Why are the Republicans in America trying to keep people from the poles ? Well I will tell you what I think. I think there may be a dozen or two, man and women in America that have the means to buy the power it wants to call all shots in this Country. The only way they can obtain this right now is get the people they went in office. To buy them so to say. But they know they can be stopped at the voting polls.They know the more that get out and vote there chances are reduced substantially. George Will knows this and should be ashamed. He say 47 years old. Is that old ? I don’t think so. Look at the constitution, at that II Amendment a lot older right. SS, Medicare, still very new in the big picture. But look at who wants to change them. Not working men and women, no the big bosses. They do not like to mach payments that is what this is all about. They did not like it back in the 1930s and they do not like it now. So Americans do not be fooled and all of you older people that now have this little benefit fight like h— to keep it just as it is. It just might be all there is between eating and striving !!
All the republicans crapping about The Voting Rights Act (VRA) on this board and the likes of you in the REPUBLICAN House should move aside in 2014 because the REPUBLICANS are the crux of the problem. President Obama won the elections of 2008 AND 2012 fair and square but the REPUBLICANS are not allowing him to govern through their rule of RECORD number of filibusters in the Senate and the HOUSE of REPUBLICANS has achieved nothing since it came to power in 2010. In 2014 its the REPUBLICAN’s time to go and let OBAMA our democratically elected PRESIDENT rule the country and leave a legacy behind like the achievements of the 2008-2010 years when DEMOCRATS had the House Senate and the Presidency. We want the obstructionist REPUBLICANS out of the way in 2014. We want our House and Senate back in the DEMOCRATIC hands so we can govern and achieve something. All these doomsday fiscal deadlines that REPUBLICANS keep pushing on the country will haunt them in 2014!! Mark my words. March 4th 2013. Vote Democratic always!
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