Sadly, the federal Voting Rights Act still has work to do

The federal Voting Rights Act was passed in 1965, in the aftermath of a bloody assault on voting-rights protesters in Selma, Ala.. The law remains one of the crowning achievements of the civil rights movement, but almost 50 years later, conservatives argue that important provisions of that law have outlived their usefulness.

There’s no question that the nation as a whole, and the South in particular, has made enormous strides over the past half century. Every American can take pride in those hard-won improvements. But has discrimination against minority voters in Georgia and other states disappeared to the point that federal intervention into state and local elections is no longer justified?

Ten years ago, I might have said yes. Not today. Passage of Georgia’s voter ID law back in 2005, and the legal battle that followed, changed my mind about the relevance of the Voting Rights Act, proving that it remains a necessary part of American law.

Today, Georgia’s voter ID law is cited by many conservatives and even some liberals as a national model. I have come to agree. While the Georgia law requires that a government-issued photo ID be presented when voting, it also attempts to ensure that voter identification is easy to obtain and is free for those who can’t afford it. As a result of that balance, there is little evidence that Georgia’s law has reduced minority participation.

However, that was not the case when the law was first passed. The initial bill that became law in 2005 made little attempt to make voter ID easily obtainable. It charged citizens $20 to $35 to obtain the necessary ID, which for poorer Americans can be a significant outlay of cash and might dissuade them from voting. And it gave voters no time to prepare for the law’s requirements.

That’s where the Voting Rights Act proved its merit. Lawsuits were filed, and federal judges immediately blocked Georgia’s voter ID law, ruling that it was an illegal effort to curtail minority voting. In 2006, the Georgia Legislature took the hint, rescinding its earlier law and replacing it with a much-improved bill. The new law offered voter identification for free, and required every Georgia county to issue such ID, removing the need for voters to travel long distances to obtain the document. The state also committed to a broad education effort to ensure that voters wouldn’t be surprised by the new law when they showed up at their precincts.

With those important improvements, federal courts upheld the new law. But those necessary, laudable improvements would not have taken place without the Voting Rights Act.

The law continues to prove itself necessary. In the midst of the heated 2012 campaign, a federal judge in Texas blocked that state’s new voter ID law, ruling that if put into effect the law would almost certainly lower minority participation. In that ruling, the judge specifically criticized the Texas law for not including safeguards contained in Georgia law.

In Florida last year, Republican state officials attempted to dramatically reduce early voting, an option that minority voters rely upon heavily. A federal appeals court used Section 5 of the Voting Rights Act to block that move, noting that “a dramatic reduction in the form of voting that is disproportionately used by African-Americans would make it materially more difficult for some minority voters to cast a ballot.”

And last year, a three-judge appellate panel approved South Carolina’s new voter ID law for use in 2013 and thereafter, again citing Georgia’s landmark law as a standard. But Judge John W. Bates — an appointee of President George W. Bush — thought it important to note that without the specter of federal oversight, South Carolina legislators would have passed a law that was much more unfair.

“… one cannot doubt the vital function that Section 5 of the Voting Rights Act has played here,” Bates wrote. “Without the review process under the Voting Rights Act, South Carolina’s voter photo ID law certainly would have been more restrictive. Rather, the history of (the South Carolina law) demonstrates the continuing utility of Section 5 of the Voting Rights Act in deterring problematic, and hence encouraging non-discriminatory, changes in state and local voting laws.”

In Washington today, nine justices of the U.S. Supreme Court will hear arguments on whether Section 5 remains relevant. All-too-recent history proves that it is relevant indeed.

– Jay Bookman

290 comments Add your comment

Partisay

February 27th, 2013
9:13 am

“Using early voting to have access to rolls of the people that have already voted so that the Democrats can call them relentlessly or go knock on their doors over and over again until they go and vote. Send out the vans and the buses to pick them up and take them to the polls while your operatives are telling them who they should vote for (education) Is this what the voting rights act is all about?”

So td…you are actually whining about people providing transportation for others so they can go vote? You think the republicans don’t do this? Is it against the law or something? It’s called getting out people to vote and it’s what both parties have done for years. You think it should be stopped. Hey that’s it….make the people prove they provided their own transportation to the polls – or don’t let them vote.

Can you not see how petty, whiny and ridiculous your complaint is?

DownInAlbany

February 27th, 2013
9:14 am

Lord Help Us

February 27th, 2013
8:45 am

Attacking the source didn’t take as long as I suspected…

But, then again, I’m not sure what of the other articles you are disputing…is it the 47,000,000 on food stamps, Christians being offended, the last 4 years terrible for many people? Which of these commentaries would you like to dispute? I’m pretty sure that’s pretty good info, despite the fact that it doesn’t fit your narative!

Welcome to the Occupation

February 27th, 2013
9:15 am

“The federal Voting Rights Act was passed in 1965…. And who tried to block it ? / DEMOCRATS !”

Why do you despise democracy so much, Scout?

Partisay

February 27th, 2013
9:16 am

0311/8541/5811/1811/1801 – You’re linking an Ann Coulter column?

Good God man, have you no decency!!

Kamchak - You cons said Elmer Fudd could defeat Obama, so why didn't you nominate him?

February 27th, 2013
9:17 am

If you don’t like the results, field better candidates…

Maybe Elmer Fudd?

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Dont’ attack the source before you read…

Dittoheads say, “What?”

DownInAlbany

February 27th, 2013
9:17 am

Granny Godzilla

February 27th, 2013
8:52 am

Your wisdom shines through! (no dripping sarcasm)

Joe Hussein Mama

February 27th, 2013
9:17 am

Mick — “On another note, today is my b-day, they are not as much fun as they used to be but I’m at that all purposeful delineated age of 55.”

Look out, man. That’s when you stop getting coupons and mailers for cool stuff like high-end stereo equipment and sports cars and instead start getting coupons and mailers for things like Metamucil and walkers. :D

Lord Help Us

February 27th, 2013
9:17 am

‘Attacking the source didn’t take as long as I suspected…’

DIA, it is a wingnut fantasy site. The fact that you get ‘information’ from such a ridiculous source explains why you believe the crap you spew…

moonbat betty

February 27th, 2013
9:17 am

Please, folks, out of political correctness, do not use the term “white”.

It’s “European American”.

Thank you in advance.

DownInAlbany

February 27th, 2013
9:20 am

Lord Help Us

February 27th, 2013
9:17 am

Indulge me, if you please. What of the 10 examples that you pasted is false?

Soothsayer

February 27th, 2013
9:22 am

“The truth is, no person that receives government assistance should be allowed to vote, until the tax code changes, to a flat tax.”

Ronin, have you thought about leaving your brain to science?

Granny Godzilla

February 27th, 2013
9:22 am

Ronin

Does that include all the shareholders of big oil companies that get subsides?

alex

February 27th, 2013
9:22 am

@ Granny, and for that I am charged with trying to find an objective viewpoint, I will NOT always or usually be successful, but I will try.

An interesting question,at least I think, From the right perspective: Obama was highly successful in getting out his vote, their on-the ground team was superb-no doubt, when does this aggressive vote “getting” become over intrusive. Poorly worded-yes. My reading in the economist suggests that their techinque was almost a “browbeating’ of some people to get them to vote…perhaps not, an open ?

mm

February 27th, 2013
9:24 am

“Voting should not be made to be convenient.”

And there’s your sign. Typical rightwing stupidity.

Lord Help Us

February 27th, 2013
9:24 am

‘Indulge me, if you please. What of the 10 examples that you pasted is false?’

DIA, my favorites were the one about the ’skewed polls,’ and with an h/t to the topic du jour…

‘9.Voter ID/Voter Rolls: The addition of voter ID laws and removal of ineligible voters (felons, illegal immigrants, deceased persons, etc.) from state voter rolls will result in a reduction of invalid Democratic votes. You will not see the same numbers of Democratic voters you did in 2008. What does it say about a party that relies on those “votes” to win an election?’

Wow, she’s a beaut (h/t ch)

Granny Godzilla

February 27th, 2013
9:25 am

“have you thought about leaving your brain to science?”

I suspect he already did……gaping hole remains

Kamchak - You cons said Elmer Fudd could defeat Obama, so why didn't you nominate him?

February 27th, 2013
9:26 am

Ronin, have you thought about leaving your brain to science?

Or Hannibal Lecter?

BuckeyeInGa

February 27th, 2013
9:26 am

The truth is, no person that receives government assistance should be allowed to vote, until the tax code changes, to a flat tax. –

So the people that shouldn’t vote include CEO’ of oil companies, constructions companies, GM, etc…

0311/8541/5811/1811/1801

February 27th, 2013
9:26 am

Partisay:

Did the Democrats try to block that legislation back then or not ?

Google it for yourself …………. or keep your biased, hypocritical head in the sand.

Sometimes the truth hurts !

Welcome to the Occupation

February 27th, 2013
9:27 am

Ronin: “The truth is, no person that receives government assistance should be allowed to vote, until the tax code changes, to a flat tax”

Licking the boots of the property owners.

Why the utter contempt for democracy, Ronin? Sure you’ve thought that one through ?

BuckeyeInGa

February 27th, 2013
9:27 am

I see GG asked the same question I did.

0311/8541/5811/1811/1801

February 27th, 2013
9:27 am

Welcome to the Occupation:

“Why do you despise democracy so much, Scout?”

Oh, you have me wrong ! I love democracy but I like the “truth of history” even more !

Off to the dog park ………… everyone be nice !!!

Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes, oh and -- FREE FRED!

February 27th, 2013
9:28 am

Jay

It’s been two days.

Will you please you free Fred now?

Granny Godzilla

February 27th, 2013
9:29 am

alex

when does “vote getting” become intrusive?

“almost” browbeating?

Never experienced that myself. Have you?

Joe Hussein Mama

February 27th, 2013
9:30 am

LHU — “1.Polls Lie: The average poll today is skewed heavily Democrat. The average poll sampling is plus 5.5 Democratc. Meaning a tie in the polls is really Romney plus 2.5 – 5.”

Do I really need to explain — once again — the abject innumeracy of people who believe this?

td

February 27th, 2013
9:30 am

Partisay

February 27th, 2013
9:13 am

“Using early voting to have access to rolls of the people that have already voted so that the Democrats can call them relentlessly or go knock on their doors over and over again until they go and vote. Send out the vans and the buses to pick them up and take them to the polls while your operatives are telling them who they should vote for (education) Is this what the voting rights act is all about?”

So td…you are actually whining about people providing transportation for others so they can go vote? You think the republicans don’t do this? Is it against the law or something? It’s called getting out people to vote and it’s what both parties have done for years. You think it should be stopped. Hey that’s it….make the people prove they provided their own transportation to the polls – or don’t let them vote.

Can you not see how petty, whiny and ridiculous your complaint is?

You see my comments in the uninformed light (typical progressive). The question was intended to look at the unintended consequences of a law. I do not think the lawmakers were thinking about protecting the practices of either political party (but really about the Democratic party right now since most minorities vote Democratic) to use the law to maximize their party power.

Partisay

February 27th, 2013
9:32 am

That Ann Coulter is such a classy lady….

Lord Help Us

February 27th, 2013
9:32 am

‘Do I really need to explain’

Yes, DIA believes crap from wingnut fantasy sources like voteguard…He is hopeless, but perhaps your sacrifice can help others that are not so far gone…

st simons - he-ne-ha

February 27th, 2013
9:32 am

Welcome to the Occupation

February 27th, 2013
9:33 am

“Did the Democrats try to block that legislation back then or not ? ”

Do you not have the slightest trace of subtlety in your head, Scout, or are you just playing stupd?

You take one group and then another group, and then the two change places. It’s about a simple change of historical roles. See? It’s really quite simple. Even a rather simple-minded person can grasp it. Not that hard.

td

February 27th, 2013
9:35 am

Granny Godzilla

February 27th, 2013
9:22 am

Ronin

Does that include all the shareholders of big oil companies that get subsides?

And how much did those big oil companies pay in taxes last year?

BuckeyeInGa

February 27th, 2013
9:35 am

@JHM
LHU — “1.Polls Lie: The average poll today is skewed heavily Democrat. The average poll sampling is plus 5.5 Democratc. Meaning a tie in the polls is really Romney plus 2.5 – 5.”

Do I really need to explain — once again — the abject innumeracy of people who believe this?
This is the same statement that Karl Rove, Dick Morris and Newt Gingrich used before the election in 2012. I “think” they were proven wrong. :-)

Welcome to the Occupation

February 27th, 2013
9:36 am

Scout; “Oh, you have me wrong ! I love democracy but I like the “truth of history fatherland” even more !”

I bet you do. I bet you do.

stands for decibels

February 27th, 2013
9:36 am

All one needs to know about why the Voting Rights Act still has work to do:

limiting early voting makes it materially more difficult for Democrats to round up or otherwise bribe the uninformed voters and drive them to the polls

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let’s bus in some Canadians and Mexicans to vote… illegals… go ahead and vote … foreigner working in the US come on down and vote … vote multiple times…

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Reconstruction is over! Even with the law, a poll worker admitted to voting multiple times. Throw it out!

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many in the African-American community are going to constantly complain about discrimination no mattter how fairly America treats them.

[...]

The truth is, no person that receives government assistance should be allowed to vote, until the tax code changes, to a flat tax

Education of the public: It’s taking longer than we thought.

saywhat?

February 27th, 2013
9:37 am

Ronin

February 27th, 2013
9:13 am
Jay, while I can’t lift you to the same cognizant level as Neal Boortz. Interesting info.
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How many sledge hammer blows to Jay’s noggin would that take?

Partisay

February 27th, 2013
9:41 am

td..don’t see what hauling people to the polls has to do with ANY law. Including the voting rights act. So would you criticize me for taking my grandmother and 2 of her old friends to vote (I did, last election).

That’s one of the main things both parties do…get people out to vote.

“and take them to the polls while your operatives are telling them who they should vote for”

Is this anything like preachers telling their flocks who to vote for? Supplying “voter cards” to remind them who to vote for? I just can’t believe some people would suggest to others who to vote for!!!

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alittlecommonsense

February 27th, 2013
9:41 am

“I’ve always wondered why Republicans are so anxious to restrict voting by Those People. A strrong party, one that was confident in their beliefs, would aggressively market themselves to everyone, instead of trying to limit the vote of people who don’t think like they do.”

Like Al Gore’s program to aggressively disenfranchise the votes of military members who were serving their country overseas. Maybe look at the sins of your own party before painting the other party with a broad brush. Just sayin.

Jefferson

February 27th, 2013
9:43 am

Getting a gun is easier than voting. Why not “instant” photo id at the polls.

Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes, oh and -- FREE FRED!

February 27th, 2013
9:43 am

…your operatives are telling them who they should vote for…

John Hagee says, “What?”

Joe Hussein Mama

February 27th, 2013
9:43 am

LHU — “Yes, DIA believes crap from wingnut fantasy sources like voteguard…He is hopeless, but perhaps your sacrifice can help others that are not so far gone…”

Alrighty, will do.

The notion of “skew” in political polls originated about 6 or so years ago with Rasmussen. Rasmussen bases his projections on what he *thinks* the political party distribution *will be* on Election Day. The problem with that, of course, is that Rasmussen has absolutely no way to accurately project what that distribution will be — so he GUESSES.

Up until last summer, you could read about this part of his methodology on his website, but around July or so, he put in behind a paywall. Now you need to be a Rasmussen *paying client* in order to see the admission.

But back to the GUESS. In statistics, that’s called a ‘fudge factor,’ and it’s indicative of sloppy work. If you have to apply a fudge factor to your numbers before you release them, you’re full of beans. Consequently, I have no faith in or reliance on Rasmussen’s surveys.

Then, shortly before the 2008 election, the notion of ’skewed’ polls took on new life when conservatives started complaining that Republicans and Democrats weren’t represented in equal numbers in political polls.

Well, why WOULD they? From a statistical POV, if you’ve properly randomized your selection methodology and search population, any errors are already covered by the Margin of Error, a number that is mathematically derivable in any given poll. But no — conservatives got the notion that if a poll had 48% R and 52% D in its population, the results would have to be shifted two percent in favor of the R in order to be ‘accurate’ and ‘correct.’

Well, I’m sorry, but that’s mathematical bulldada. The reason that Democrats tend to be overrepresented is because there are more of them in the general population. The 2008 and 2012 elections are proof of that. And if there are more of a given group in a survey population, you would *expect* that group to be overrepresented in the surveyed group. It’s simple probability.

Whenever I hear anyone prattling about skewed polls, it’s a sure sign to me that said individual doesn’t know the first thing about statistics or survey methodology. And that he probably can’t balance his own checkbook.

gary

February 27th, 2013
9:44 am

Gee if we charged $35 for an id to vote, some tattoo parlors will go out of business waiting on the poor and stupid to get ink’d

JamVet

February 27th, 2013
9:44 am

Good God man, have you no decency!!

There is virtually NO debate that Ms. Coulter has very, very little.

The difference between the most virulent of the Republicans and the rest of us?

We want ALL Americans to have access to their constitutional right to franchise. We believe that everyone, who is legally eligible, should vote

The worst of our Republicans? You people have read the posts yourselves and you know.

Restrict voting to a limited number of Americans – either by administering IQ requirements or “contribution to the nation” requirements or whatever. i call them the modern day Jim Crow bunch.

This is Republican fascism, not American democracy.

But it does explain – to a great extent – their huge “Negro problem”…

Doggone/GA

February 27th, 2013
9:44 am

“Like Al Gore’s program to aggressively disenfranchise the votes of military members who were serving their country overseas – See more at: http://blogs.ajc.com/jay-bookman-blog/2013/02/27/sadly-the-federal-voting-rights-act-still-has-work-to-do/?cp=2#sthash.7wUYa0Ei.dpuf

When you have to lie to make your point, you have no point

Granny Godzilla

February 27th, 2013
9:47 am

td

“How much do they pay in taxes?”

That matters how?

But You might want to look at Exxon for 2009…

stands for decibels

February 27th, 2013
9:47 am

Like Al Gore’s program to aggressively disenfranchise the votes of military members

Cite, please.

td

February 27th, 2013
9:47 am

Partisay

February 27th, 2013
9:41 am

You carrying your mother and a couple her friends to the polls in not a problem. A political party renting hundreds or thousands buses to pick up people from their houses day after day, after they knocked on peoples doors and escorted them to the pick up location is just plain wrong.

Ronin

February 27th, 2013
9:48 am

Granny, honestly, with all due respect, it has nothing to do with oil, of which, the price of petrol has doubled under President Obama.
While the media maintains that President Obama is the first black president, that’s only half right.
Black, white, purple, blue or green, I simply don’t care.

Dr. Ben Carson MD, is more than a intellectual match for President Obama.
Simple and to the point, the man simply cleans the floor with wisdom, which can eradicate the GOP and Demaphobs.

game on….

Mick

February 27th, 2013
9:48 am

joe

No about the metamucil coupons, but harley davidson has been after me…

Granny Godzilla

February 27th, 2013
9:49 am

alittlecommonsense

“Like Al Gore’s program to aggressively disenfranchise the votes of military members who were serving their country overseas.”

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Balderdash

Joe Hussein Mama

February 27th, 2013
9:49 am

The last time I saw Ann Coulter on Bill Maher’s show (about a year or so ago), he seemed to broadly hint that her behavior is all an act, calculated to sell books and personal appearances — and she didn’t disagree with him. Coulter is known to have had personal relationships with a number of lefty types, and Maher is heavily rumored to have been one of her past paramours. And judging from her behavior on his show, I’d say it’s pretty likely — she was MUCH more deferential and coquettish than I’ve ever seen her before. My wife even said ‘those two slept together’ while watching the show with me.

Long story short, I think Coulter breathes fire for money. but I also think that it’s all an act.

stands for decibels

February 27th, 2013
9:50 am

A political party renting hundreds or thousands buses to pick up people from their houses day after day, after they knocked on peoples doors and escorted them to the pick up location is just plain wrong.

Please proceed.

Joe Hussein Mama

February 27th, 2013
9:51 am

Mick — “joe No about the metamucil coupons, but harley davidson has been after me…”

I’m waiting for the Viagra trial offer that comes with a free Harley myself. Like the guy in the commercial who’s out riding his bike in the desert all day and comes back home riiiiight around dark. :D

Redneck Convert (R--and proud of it)

February 27th, 2013
9:51 am

The average poll today is skewed heavily Democrat. The average poll sampling is plus 5.5 Democratc. Meaning a tie in the polls is really Romney plus 2.5 – 5.

Well, the polls had it right and we were going to win big and we were going to take the Senate and send Obama packing to Chicago. It’s just that the voters screwed it up. That’s what happens when you get people involved in things.

Doggone/GA

February 27th, 2013
9:53 am

“the price of petrol has doubled under President Obama – See more at: http://blogs.ajc.com/jay-bookman-blog/2013/02/27/sadly-the-federal-voting-rights-act-still-has-work-to-do/?cp=2#comment-1244837

And what does that have to do with Obama being President? The US President has no control over world-wide oil prices. No matter who he is.

Granny Godzilla

February 27th, 2013
9:53 am

td

You carrying your mother and a couple her friends to the polls in not a problem. A political party renting hundreds or thousands buses to pick up people from their houses day after day, after they knocked on peoples doors and escorted them to the pick up location is just plain wrong.
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Nope it’s just plain RIGHT.

It’s also courteous and thoughtful.

Unless of course, there is some bigger, deeper reason you want people who can’t or don’t drive, or who have little or no access to public transportation not to vote?

mmmmmmmmmmm…it’s a puzzlement

td

February 27th, 2013
9:53 am

stands for decibels

February 27th, 2013
9:47 am

Like Al Gore’s program to aggressively disenfranchise the votes of military members

Cite, please.

It is common knowledge of what Gore attempted doing to the military vote in Florida. For you not to have heard this speaks volumes about the uninformed voter.

Gen Norman Schwarzkopf, the Gulf war commander who now lives in Florida, led Republican condemnation of a five-page guide which advised Democratic tellers how to raise objections to the postal votes.

He said: “It is a very sad day in our country when the men and women of the armed forces are serving abroad and facing danger of a daily basis . . . and are denied the right to vote for the president of the United States who will be their commander in chief.”

Democratic tellers were advised to block ballots if there was no clearly legible postmark on the envelope, which is frequently the case when letters are posted from military bases. Normally, these ballots pass unchallenged.”

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northamerica/usa/1375024/Gore-campaign-trying-to-block-military-votes.html

Now what say you?

Bernie

February 27th, 2013
9:54 am

Doggone/GA @ 8:39 am – My Friend you would be truly amazed and surprised by the many things we recognize about your culture and the fair treatment others. The Real problem here is that you are unable to recognize that you and your ILK, have a problem at all or you are pretending not recognize and that is the saddest part of ALL. No one is FOOLED! least of ALL the people of color!
We have many years of silence and observation, that even you are not aware of about your own selves.

stands for decibels

February 27th, 2013
9:55 am

By the way, I was searching for SBC voting guide materials, and came upon this:

http://4040prayer.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2012/11/Picture-5.png

“Ask God to … Prevent anything from happening that would prevent you from voting.”

this is via the Southern Baptists, td.

So, please proceed, and tell me why ensuring that voters get to polling places–essentially fulfilling the evangelicals’ prayer cited above–is “just plain wrong.”

Cherokee

February 27th, 2013
9:56 am

“after they knocked on peoples doors and escorted them to the pick up location is just plain wrong.”

Why? For heaven sakes why?

Have you ever lived in a small town, td? With perhaps lots of elderly people? Elderly people who have difficulties getting around, who don’t own cars?

And you think it’s wrong to help those people get to the polls?

Do conservatives set out to intentionally drive people away from your values?

Ronin

February 27th, 2013
9:56 am

@ Say 0937, actually, the answer is none. Jay is Jay, maybe even agent Jay, from MIB….
While he’s a nice guy, he would never win a debate with me…..

Doggone/GA

February 27th, 2013
9:56 am

“A political party renting hundreds or thousands buses to pick up people from their houses day after day, after they knocked on peoples doors and escorted them to the pick up location is just plain wrong – See more at: http://blogs.ajc.com/jay-bookman-blog/2013/02/27/sadly-the-federal-voting-rights-act-still-has-work-to-do/?cp=2#comment-1244848

Got proof?

stands for decibels

February 27th, 2013
9:57 am

Now what say you?

I say your opinion piece is full of crap, and that the supporting evidence is based solely on the assertions of people with a specific ax to grind.

Redneck Convert (R--and proud of it)

February 27th, 2013
9:57 am

I’m waiting for the Viagra trial offer that comes with a free Harley myself.

Careful there, Hussein, else you’ll wind up by yourself in a cold empty bathtub with this beautiful woman in another cold empty bathtub but you can’t get to her ’cause you’re stuck in a cold empty bathtub. All I know is, if God had of wanted you to do You Know What after you hit 50 or so you would of been born with different equipment.

td

February 27th, 2013
10:01 am

Bernie

February 27th, 2013
9:54 am

“No one is FOOLED! least of ALL the people of color!”

Not fooled but just brainwashed. Cain, Sowell and several other well established African American conservatives have done quite a bid of documentation about the subject.

Doggone/GA

February 27th, 2013
10:01 am

“It is common knowledge of what Gore attempted doing to the military vote in Florida. For you not to have heard this speaks volumes about the uninformed voter – See more at: http://blogs.ajc.com/jay-bookman-blog/2013/02/27/sadly-the-federal-voting-rights-act-still-has-work-to-do/?cp=2#comment-1244855

And this shows that you DON’T have any proof. “Common knowledge” does not constitute proof, nor is it invariably true.

Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes, oh and -- FREE FRED!

February 27th, 2013
10:01 am

While he’s a nice guy, he would never win a debate with me…..

Clearly, you are One Bad Stud.

Joe Hussein Mama

February 27th, 2013
10:03 am

R, Convert — “Careful there, Hussein, else you’ll wind up by yourself in a cold empty bathtub with this beautiful woman in another cold empty bathtub but you can’t get to her ’cause you’re stuck in a cold empty bathtub.”

I thought that only happened if you used Levitra instead of Viagra? :(

Doggone/GA

February 27th, 2013
10:03 am

“My Friend you would be truly amazed and surprised by the many things we recognize about your culture and the fair treatment others – See more at: http://blogs.ajc.com/jay-bookman-blog/2013/02/27/sadly-the-federal-voting-rights-act-still-has-work-to-do/?cp=2#comment-1244859

I have no idea what this is even supposed to mean in the context of my reply at 8:39. They don’t seem to relate at all.

td

February 27th, 2013
10:03 am

Cherokee

February 27th, 2013
9:56 am

“after they knocked on peoples doors and escorted them to the pick up location is just plain wrong.”

Why? For heaven sakes why?

Have you ever lived in a small town, td? With perhaps lots of elderly people? Elderly people who have difficulties getting around, who don’t own cars?

And you think it’s wrong to help those people get to the polls?

Do conservatives set out to intentionally drive people away from your values?

I did not see those buses running through those small towns they were running in such places as Cleveland, Philadelphia, Miami and Richmond.

Brosephus™ - Desktop but still Multitasking

February 27th, 2013
10:04 am

Damn right the VRA is still needed. The current rash of BS voter laws smack of early onset apartheid, American style. It’s not as much about race as it is wealthy vs poor. When you paint it that way, it’s easily dismissed. When you add the issue of race, then people start talking.

This goes above and beyond Blacks, but by ensuring everyone has equal and open access to the ballot, it will indeed help Blacks. I just can’t wait for the bigot generation to disappear.

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the form of voting that is disproportionately used by African-Americans

Anyone got an opinion as to why?

Work. The fear of getting fired does things to people, especially when you’re likely the first one out the door.

According to BLS unemployment rate for whites is 7.2, for blacks it’s 13.8. (2012

See statement above. Blacks have always known that you’re the last hired and the first fired. If you have a job, you do what you have to in order to keep that job. Early voting allows one to vote around the work schedule without missing time and losing money.

Also, there are still many people living who marched across the Edmund Pettus Bridge in Selma. They know fecal matter when they smell it. When there are continued attempts to curtail or minimize the effect of your voting block, you want to make sure to get your vote out there. That’s one of the reasons I’m so invested in voting laws and such. There are some who are trying to hold onto power by eliminating the opposition vote, but people like me will not let that happen.

kayaker 71

February 27th, 2013
10:04 am

$35 for a valid ID? Wonder if you can put that on your EBT card?

Look before I leap...

February 27th, 2013
10:05 am

“Gen Norman Schwarzkopf, the Gulf war commander who now lives in Florida, – ”

Stormin’ Norman passed away 2 months ago.

Do you ever actually read the crap you cut and paste without attribute day in and day out?

td

February 27th, 2013
10:06 am

Doggone/GA

February 27th, 2013
10:01 am

Stay blind and uninformed if you choose to and continue to back up the stereotype of the typical Democratic voter. Poor, uneducated, not knowing history and not understanding economics.

Brosephus™ - Desktop but still Multitasking

February 27th, 2013
10:07 am

Partisay:

Did the Democrats try to block that legislation back then or not ?

Yep, Scout, Conservative Southern Democrats tried to block that legislation. That same Conservative group is now GOP and is no longer Democratic Party members. What’s your point?

Partisay

February 27th, 2013
10:07 am

“My wife even said ‘those two slept together’ while watching the show with me.”

I always thought she was a fluzzy (sp). Sorry for the misspelling…have never typed that word before.
And wives can usually tell those kind of things….

alex

February 27th, 2013
10:07 am

No, granny I have not, I ask the question because there is a great interest, worldwide(at least the Brits) in borrowing the Obama campaigns technique for getting the vote out, social media excetera, when does social media etc. begin to influence voting in an intrusive way, Again, bad wording…

Doggone/GA

February 27th, 2013
10:07 am

“Stay blind and uninformed if you choose to and continue to back up the stereotype of the typical Democratic voter. Poor, uneducated, not knowing history and not understanding economics – See more at: http://blogs.ajc.com/jay-bookman-blog/2013/02/27/sadly-the-federal-voting-rights-act-still-has-work-to-do/?cp=2#comment-1244862

In other word, no you don’t have proof

Gator Joe

February 27th, 2013
10:08 am

The Right Wing in this country won’t need to worry about the “47%” once they complete their disenfranchisement scams. They’ll be successful for a time, but the tide of changing demograpics will eventually push them, and their discredited ideology aside.

Bernie

February 27th, 2013
10:08 am

td @ 10:01 am – Herman Cain and the other African American conservatives are the biggest FOOLs of ALL. You are even a bigger fool for tursting them, for they are using you and your ILK for their own personal gain at the expense of all others. This is an old game that was first established when the
GOOD SHIP JESUS first docked in America.

One Slave in chains, flashed a broad TOOTHY GRIN and said to the slave holders as he departed the ship and replied ” WHAT A FINE DAY,WE HAVE HERE,SUH”S!

That was the first African American conservative in America! The slave holders laughed and agreed that SLAVE was different and smarter!

Doggone/GA

February 27th, 2013
10:09 am

“in borrowing the Obama campaigns technique for getting the vote out, social media excetera, when does social media etc. begin to influence voting in an intrusive way – See more at: http://blogs.ajc.com/jay-bookman-blog/2013/02/27/sadly-the-federal-voting-rights-act-still-has-work-to-do/?cp=2#comment-1244873

I have some bad news for you. ALL campaigning is MEANT to “influence voting in an intrusive way” It’s how politicians get their message out.

td

February 27th, 2013
10:09 am

Look before I leap…

February 27th, 2013
10:05 am

“Gen Norman Schwarzkopf, the Gulf war commander who now lives in Florida, – ”

Stormin’ Norman passed away 2 months ago.

Do you ever actually read the crap you cut and paste without attribute day in and day out?

If you actually read the cite then you would have seen:

“By Stephen Robinson in Washington and Toby Harnden in Tallahassee

12:00AM GMT 20 Nov 2000″

You want to bash instead of becoming educated. Yet another example of the uninformed voter.

Morality?

February 27th, 2013
10:10 am

100% of the time dead folks only vote DEM.

Doggone/GA

February 27th, 2013
10:11 am

“100% of the time dead folks only vote DEM.”

got proof?

F. Sinkwich

February 27th, 2013
10:11 am

The VRA is obsolete. It remains law only to provide Yankees and associated local vermin the illusion of superiority over those they feel are lower life forms: Southerners.

southpaw

February 27th, 2013
10:12 am

“Today, Georgia’s voter ID law is cited by many conservatives and even some liberals as a national model.”

To the surprise of liberals everywhere, conservative Georgia leaders learned from, and fixed, their mistake. Georgia now has it right. So it’s time either to take Georgia off the list of locations under VRA jurisdiction or expand the Act to the whole country.

By the way, how did Republicans not even born (I think the phrase was “waiting to be born”) block anything? My grandchildren haven’t supported or opposed any legislation–probably because I have no grandchildren.

Doggone/GA

February 27th, 2013
10:13 am

“The VRA is obsolete”

got proof?

td

February 27th, 2013
10:13 am

Bernie

February 27th, 2013
10:08 am

Yep, those slave owners today are the rich white liberal elitist that continue to pay the Jesse Jackson, Al Sharpton, NAACP and others to remain the field bosses and to keep people on the plantation picking and fetching for them.

stands for decibels

February 27th, 2013
10:14 am

oh, and as long as I am smiting td:

For you not to have heard this speaks volumes about the uninformed voter

What, pray tell, makes you think I’ve never heard this whiny-arsed teaty baby assertion, this pathetic “Johnny does it too!” line of attack?

My god, it was hauled out for a repeat performance in 2012, when Romney ran a smear campaign over the Justice dept.’s efforts to ensure voting rights in Ohio (here’s one of many accounts I could cite.)

The great part of this ridiculous assertion is, it’s a two-fer.

Not only does it deflect away from actual disenfranchisement of actual voters, it plays into nonsense that Democrats are “anti-military,” so much so that they’re trying to keep members of the Armed Services from voting because OF COURSE actual SOLDIERS are tooootally Republican.

kayaker 71

February 27th, 2013
10:14 am

What is the purpose of states enforcing their voting laws in any election? To ensure that those who vote are entitled to vote. Why are these laws supported more by Republicans than Democrats? Usually those that would break that law and trust are Democrats and traditionally have been throughout our whole voting history. Who do you think that the average illegal latino is going to vote for? You don’t have to answer that.

Doggone/GA

February 27th, 2013
10:14 am

“Georgia now has it right. So it’s time either to take Georgia off the list of locations under VRA jurisdiction or expand the Act to the whole country. – See more at: http://blogs.ajc.com/jay-bookman-blog/2013/02/27/sadly-the-federal-voting-rights-act-still-has-work-to-do/?cp=2#comment-1244882

and as Jay deomonstrated, the reason it is NOT time to take Georgia off the list is because it took the VRA to force GA to GET IT RIGHT.

Common Sense is Uncommon

February 27th, 2013
10:15 am

When it comes to Obama, pay no attention to what he says and only watch his actions to know the truth of his intentions. Just yesterday, while scaring ship builders in Virginia during one of his dishonest “dog and pony” shows, while using the sequester crisis he caused, as a ruse to increase taxes, he let the truth be known about the real impact of sequester. While the Democrat controlled press ignores reality while spreading the administration propaganda the president’s actions undermine their attempted cover up. While lying to the Virginia ship builders president Obama dispatched John Kerry to the Middle East to inform the Syrian reberls that the Obama adminnistration had plenty of money to provide them with non lethal aide. So, the truth is either the president is willing to lay off ship builders to provide funds to a foreign uprising or he has extra monery just laiyng around for his personal use. BTW how much will the White House reduce their Travel and Vacation schedule becasue of sequestration? Huh?

southpaw

February 27th, 2013
10:15 am

Doggone –

How many times are you going to link to your earlier comments?

td

February 27th, 2013
10:15 am

Doggone/GA

February 27th, 2013
10:11 am

“100% of the time dead folks only vote DEM.”

got proof?

Another example of being uninformed since that one has been proven many times as well.

Ronin

February 27th, 2013
10:17 am

Kam @ 10:01, yep
and that’s without the “stud” pill

Agent Jay is a nice guy, just like MIB, he’s from another planet/alternate reality.

Doggone/GA

February 27th, 2013
10:17 am

“How many times are you going to link to your earlier comments? – See more at: http://blogs.ajc.com/jay-bookman-blog/2013/02/27/sadly-the-federal-voting-rights-act-still-has-work-to-do/?cp=2#comment-1244886

As many times as it takes. It’s not ME doing that, it happens everytime I copy something and it’s damned annoying.

Doggone/GA

February 27th, 2013
10:18 am

“Another example of being uninformed since that one has been proven many times as well – See more at: http://blogs.ajc.com/jay-bookman-blog/2013/02/27/sadly-the-federal-voting-rights-act-still-has-work-to-do/?cp=2#comment-1244891

In other words, you don’t have any proof

Welcome to the Occupation

February 27th, 2013
10:18 am

Common sense: ” While lying to the Virginia ship builders president Obama dispatched John Kerry to the Middle East to inform the Syrian reberls that the Obama adminnistration had plenty of money to provide them with non lethal aide. So, the truth is either the president is willing to lay off ship builders to provide funds to a foreign uprising or he has extra monery just laiyng around for his personal use

Well, not his own personal use, but that of the oligarchs he serves. So you’re half right there.

Life under an imperialist oligarchy ain’t all it’s cracked up to be, is it, Common? :)

stands for decibels

February 27th, 2013
10:18 am

How many times are you going to link to your earlier comments?

She’s not–she’s (deliberately?) leaving in a link you get whenever you copy/paste more than one line of a previous comment.

This is, I think, a pretty nasty bug. It is fine to have such an automatic URL insertion when quoting from Jay’s original blog–the ajc is entitled to get their due when people quote their columnists elsewhere–but from commenters themselves? That’s overkill.

I said “deliberately?” with a question mark since maybe DGA is leaving that in to make a point to the ajc’s IT folks that this is ANNOYINGGGGGG.

southpaw

February 27th, 2013
10:19 am

Doggone @10:14
As judges in South Carolina and Texas demonstrated, Georgia law is a good standard to use. That’s why it IS time to remove Georgia from VRA jurisdiction.

Ronin

February 27th, 2013
10:21 am

Granny, where are you? stomping Tokyo or battling mega moth?
Have no fear, Ultra man is near….