Conservatives have no interest in what Chris Christie might say

Yup, it's a real head-scratcher.

Yup, it's a real head-scratcher.

Chris Christie is a nationally popular Republican governor of a blue state in the Northeast, a region where the GOP barely remains competitive. He has a 74 percent approval rating, in a state that Barack Obama carried by 18 percentage points. In fact, no Republican presidential candidate has managed to carry New Jersey since 1988.

Yet Christie has been pointedly NOT invited to speak to the highly influential Conservative Political Action Conference, which meets in Washington, D.C. next month. The confab is widely considered an essential showcase for Republicans with presidential aspirations.

Bobby Jindal will be there. A speech by Ted Cruz will close the convention. The NRA’s Wayne LaPierre has a place of honor on the program. Under the rubric “America’s Future: The Next Generation of Conservatives,” Republican up-and-comers Marco Rubio, Paul Ryan, Rand Paul and Sarah Palin — wait, Sarah Palin? — will thrill convention-goers.

And for anyone who has grown nostalgic for those wonderfully intelligent, provocative 2012 Republican presidential debates, Mitt Romney, Michele Bachmann, Newt Gingrich and Rick Santorum will play featured roles.

But no Chris Christie. According to CPAC organizers, the man has proved himself too liberal to be extended an invitation. The pristine conservative minds of CPAC attendees must not be offended by exposure to someone who dares to venture outside the approved ideology, even if that someone might offer the party a way out of the political wilderness. For much the same reason, the Log Cabin Republicans and GOProud, two gay Republican groups, have once again been banned outright from the convention.

So, same as it ever was.

– Jay Bookman

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moonbat betty

February 27th, 2013
1:12 pm

“moonbat I’ve been here awhile…”

Steve,

Nurse Ratchet (Bookman) has done you well.

DebbieDoRight - Republican Math That Makes You Feel Good Is Called Matherbation

February 27th, 2013
1:13 pm

Wrong!!! The US Congress (voted on in a bi partisan manner) gave Bush the authority and the money to go to war with Iraq. -

I forgot to add the words “MORAL RIGHT. Since Iraq didn’t instigate nor agitate us into war by attacking us or even IMPLYING (LIke North Korea Did), that they even would attack us in the future.

We have, weak, poor, not militarily (by US standards anyway) proficient 90 pound weakling Iraq who kicked some sad at us.

Then we have big strong, muscular 250 pound N. Korea, (who’s in our league), that kicked sand at us – so who do we go and pick a fight with? That’s right you got it!! The 90 pound weakling! Yep. GWB and his crew were some heap em, strong, manly men!

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The wars cost less money then the stimulus package Obama and the Dems did to pay off their voters.

How would you know that td? GWB & Friends never put the full costs of the war on the books. They used some really good republican math, (which throws in magic and elves who spin gold from straw), in order to con the really stupid, (Ooops! sorry td!!), into believing that the war was “paying for itself”.

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It is your post that is attempting to rewrite history

whats so truly sad about your comment is not that you wrote this ^^^. It’s that you truly believe it.

the dumbing down continues….

td

February 27th, 2013
1:13 pm

DJ Sniper

February 27th, 2013
12:58 pm

Did td really just accuse Obama of not wanting to compromise? That’s the very mantra of today’s GOP. Pot, let me introduce you to kettle.

Please show us all ONE single document that the Obama administration has produced with one single real cut to anything besides the military in it that he “says” he offered in a negotiation? I only need one document and I will never say Obama refused to cooperate again.

TBone

February 27th, 2013
1:13 pm

Chris Christie = Conservative as Zell Miller = Liberal

Steve

February 27th, 2013
1:14 pm

Why are conservatives in denial about the cost of war, the cost of the military industrial complex, that they use and enjoy social security and Medicare, that corporate welfare costs us more than regular welfare abuse, that hating gays/women/minorities is costing them elections? I think it’s sheer stupidity on their part. I mean that.

Brosephus™: You can't stop my vote, Homie!!

February 27th, 2013
1:14 pm

Reverse Nick

You don’t get rid of him forever, only for that particular thread. I was trying to get a serious answer from him, and he disappeared on me faster than Usain Bolt in the 100.

moonbat betty

February 27th, 2013
1:15 pm

Geez, Fred was canned again?

That boy needs a good blog lawyer or some “get out of jail for free” cards!

FREE THE FRED

FREE THE FRED

getalife

February 27th, 2013
1:16 pm

We are tolerant of our cons being heard on this blog.

We should listen to them but do the exact opposite of what they propose because they are always wrong.

Globalization is not the family budget. It runs on credit not cash so they are clinging to an old out dated and failed ideology.

Escaped from Email Purgatory

February 27th, 2013
1:16 pm

Everybody knows the purpose of CPAC is to commiserate/gloat depending on the turn of GOP fortunes since last year’s meeting.

Surprised you didn’t know that Bookman, you being such an expert on conservatives and all.

So the irrelevance of the GOP still has a frim grip on your fancy, I see.

Christie’s on the persona non grata list since giving Obama a reach around during his empathy tour of NJ after Sandy.

Hey! Obama just let hundreds of incarcerated illegals out of jail in Arizona. Kind of a preemptive measure in advance of the impending sequester calamity caused by the GOP.

Does that pique your objective, journalistic curiosity – even a little?

I thought not.

Erwin's cat

February 27th, 2013
1:16 pm

stands for dB @1:10

He hugged Obama…no “real” conservative would have done that. I think a few of them “think” that hug flipped a few independents Obama’s way

TBS

February 27th, 2013
1:17 pm

“That boy needs a good blog lawyer or some “get out of jail for free” cards! – ”

Fred needs as many of these cards are some of our more Evangelical / fundamentalist Christian bloggers have “get out of Leviticus free” cards.

And for a few that is more than one deck of cards

:-)

Stevie Ray

February 27th, 2013
1:17 pm

DebbieDoRight – Republican Math That Makes You Feel Good Is Called Matherbation

February 27th, 2013
12:44 pm

Read his book before going off. His “price of politics” follows these specific debt negotiations and was pretty close to the action. So far, I’ve only seen one clarification…so what if he is critical of BO?

The negotiations are well catalogued….additionally the book opens with the giddiness of his promise of bringing parties together then dissing GOP’er who brought budget concepts…arguably, the distrust between the president and GOP started pre inauguration..

“We won, you lost…I think I trump you….”

Look before I leap...

February 27th, 2013
1:17 pm

” I was trying to get a serious answer from him,..”

BWAHAHAHAHAHA

I think the new baby is preventing you from getting enough sleep and its made your brain go all mushy.

td

February 27th, 2013
1:17 pm

DebbieDoRight – Republican Math That Makes You Feel Good Is Called Matherbation

February 27th, 2013
1:13 pm

Wrong!!! The US Congress (voted on in a bi partisan manner) gave Bush the authority and the money to go to war with Iraq. -

I forgot to add the words “MORAL RIGHT. Since Iraq didn’t instigate nor agitate us into war by attacking us or even IMPLYING (LIke North Korea Did), that they even would attack us in the future.

Again, the US Congress gave him not only the “right” and the “money” but also the “moral right” to invade Iraq on a BI PARTISAN (If I am not mistaken over 70 votes in the Senate) . Just because you feel he did not have the “moral right” does not make it so.

Erwin's cat

February 27th, 2013
1:17 pm

That boy needs a good blog lawyer

call Saul

Doggone/GA

February 27th, 2013
1:18 pm

“Please cite where Christie either switched parties or indicated that he will/would/may switch parties – See more at: http://blogs.ajc.com/jay-bookman-blog/2013/02/27/conservatives-have-no-interest-in-what-chris-christie-might-say/?cp=3#comment-1245277

the comment you quoted was in a discussion of whether it was thought possible he MIGHT switch. Just speculation and nothing else

That Black Guy

February 27th, 2013
1:18 pm

Stevie Ray

February 27th, 2013
12:38 pm
getalife

February 27th, 2013
12:29 pm

That ranks as one of your finest criticisms…you have no clue of Woodwards capabilities, reputation or past successes. Who are you with your miniscule knowledge to beat down this guy simply because you attack any who challenge your idol?

Why do you even bother to waste you time?
____________________________________
SR, not to be snarky but, “Why do you even bother to waste you time?”

If you expect ANY rational, levelheaded discussion out of *that* particular poster, you WILL be disappointed EVERYTIME.

To paraphrase Obie Wan “Those are not the brains you are looking for.”

Doggone/GA

February 27th, 2013
1:20 pm

“getalife, you ever got a job from a poor man?”

I have. Not all of my company’s customers are rich…and it’s the customers who truly “hired” me to work

breckenridge

February 27th, 2013
1:20 pm

“Again, the US Congress gave him not only the “right” and the “money” but also the “moral right” to invade Iraq.”

Is that true? Or did you hear it on Fox News?

Brosephus™: You can't stop my vote, Homie!!

February 27th, 2013
1:20 pm

Look

You should go back to see the question I asked though. It’s not as bad an image as the barrel, but it follows that train of thought.

:lol:

Seems like it would be a simple question to answer though.

getalife

February 27th, 2013
1:21 pm

TBG,

I will put up my record on being right to any con on this blog.

Bring it.

Stevie Ray

February 27th, 2013
1:22 pm

DebbieDoRight – Republican Math That Makes You Feel Good Is Called Matherbation

February 27th, 2013
1:13 pm

You do recall that even Bill Clinton was convinced Iraq was loaded with WMD..No body can defend Bush but whether he knew the data was phoney or not..we will never know…

Doggone/GA

February 27th, 2013
1:22 pm

“Rightfully so…don’t try to change em, just accept them as they are or…not – See more at: http://blogs.ajc.com/jay-bookman-blog/2013/02/27/conservatives-have-no-interest-in-what-chris-christie-might-say/?cp=3#sthash.A9b7ytrL.dpuf

Yep! One of the biggest mistakes women make…and we’ve all made it at some time…is thinking the love of a good woman will change a man. It won’t. The love FOR a good woman can inspire a man to change himself, but only he can make meaningful changes.

And of course that also goes for men re: women as well

Steve

February 27th, 2013
1:22 pm

Conservatives, historically, have been wrong on so many issues, Americans get that now. Show me the conservative track record on ANYTHING where somebody wins who’s not uber rich already?

TBS

February 27th, 2013
1:22 pm

“Again, the US Congress gave him not only the “right” and the “money” but also the “moral right” to invade Iraq on a BI PARTISAN (If I am not mistaken over 70 votes in the Senate) . Just because you feel he did not have the “moral right” does not make it so. – ”

What exactly is the number of votes required in the Senate to deem it a “moral right”? Where did you get this number? And does it apply to any vote that meets this number?

I do agree that many Dems complained after voting to go and fund, but your “moral right” thing is amusing.

Look before I leap...

February 27th, 2013
1:23 pm

“Just because you feel he did not have the “moral right” does not make it so. – ”

I dunno, I have a difficult time in reconciling “moral right” to an action that was predicated on a mountain of lies and half-truths.

BSNBC

February 27th, 2013
1:23 pm

President Chicken Little must still be touring on our dime!

Regnad Kcin

February 27th, 2013
1:23 pm

“call Saul”

It occurred to me while watching a commercial last night – is Ken Nugent the “Saul Goodman” of Atlanta?

getalife

February 27th, 2013
1:24 pm

“No body can defend Bush but whether he knew the data was phoney or not..we will never know… – ”

Google curveball.

We do know he lied.

Steve

February 27th, 2013
1:25 pm

@Regnad – LOL, just saw that ad at the gym today. Ted Nugent driving in his expensive convertible, showcased as a celebrity.

Brosephus™: You can't stop my vote, Homie!!

February 27th, 2013
1:26 pm

You do recall that even Bill Clinton was convinced Iraq was loaded with WMD..No body can defend Bush but whether he knew the data was phoney or not..we will never know…

WE, the United States of America, gave Hussein WMD’s and the technology. It’s not far fetched for our leaders to think he had them when they already knew we had given them to him

http://www.amazon.com/Spiders-Web-Secret-History-Illegally/dp/0553096508

If you want to read it, I have a copy in my library.

Look before I leap...

February 27th, 2013
1:26 pm

“I have. Not all of my company’s customers are rich…and it’s the customers who truly “hired” me to work – ”

3 of my company’s contracts are federal contracts and since we are reminded daily that the country is broke, I guess that counts.

Doggone/GA

February 27th, 2013
1:27 pm

“Irrelevant. There’s no provision in the Constitution for the Congress to be able to delegate its authority to declare war. – See more at: http://blogs.ajc.com/jay-bookman-blog/2013/02/27/conservatives-have-no-interest-in-what-chris-christie-might-say/?cp=3#sthash.vd9oIplr.dpuf

And it doesn’t matter for this reason: they gave Bush the authority to make the decision and he did. That put’s it ALL on his plate

stands for decibels

February 27th, 2013
1:31 pm

He hugged Obama…no “real” conservative would have done that. I think a few of them “think” that hug flipped a few independents Obama’s way

Interesting take. If so, man, that is one stingin’ case of butthurt CPAC’s got. I honestly wouldn’t want to admit such a thing, publicly, if I were in their shoes.

(and I get that this has nothing whatsoever to do CC’s ideology, at this point, but rather with loyalty, or perceived lack thereof.)

splavistic

February 27th, 2013
1:31 pm

Reagan wouldn’t have been invited to the modern CPAC, either. Neither would Nixon, or probably even Bush Sr. Nope, only ignorant, rednecks (aka Palin and Cruz, et al.) can be accepted as the speakers of the ‘movment’ these days. Good night GOP. NEXT!

0311/8541/5811/1811/1801

February 27th, 2013
1:33 pm

“Conservatives have no interest in what Chris Christie might say”

And the low information voters have no interest in what Obama has said and the main stream media are in bed with him.

“The fact that we are here today to debate raising America ’s debt limit is a sign of leadership failure. It is a sign that the US Government cannot pay its own bills. It is a sign that we now depend on ongoing financial assistance from foreign countries to finance our Government’s reckless fiscal policies. Increasing America ’s debt weakens us domestically and internationally. Leadership means that, “the buck stops here.’ Instead, Washington is shifting the burden of bad choices today onto the backs of our children and grandchildren. America has a debt problem and a failure of leadership. Americans deserve better.” Senator Barack H. Obama, March 2006

Doggone/GA

February 27th, 2013
1:33 pm

“You do recall that even Bill Clinton was convinced Iraq was loaded with WMD.. – See more at: http://blogs.ajc.com/jay-bookman-blog/2013/02/27/conservatives-have-no-interest-in-what-chris-christie-might-say/?cp=4#comment-1245333

Did Clinton start a war with Iraq?

DebbieDoRight - Republican Math That Makes You Feel Good Is Called Matherbation

February 27th, 2013
1:34 pm

DG — He read it on the internet. You know they can’t put it on the internet if it isn’t true.

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He hugged Obama…no “real” conservative would have done that. I think a few of them “think” that hug flipped a few independents Obama’s way

Really? Is this what its coming to? If you hug the person, smile at him, or even look at him with less than hatred in your eyes, then you are a betrayer to your cause?

Why don’t you guys get off the playground and grow up already? Duh! :roll:
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td – so you’re saying that it’s morally right to attack a country that has not attacked you? Really? You’re going to stick with that?

So it was “morally right” for Japan to attack us in 1941?

Please, please, PLEASSSEEE, think before you answer the question. I know it may be hard for you, but if you concentrate and try really really hard, it can work.
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Stevie – I could care less about what Woodward book says. He wrote the book to SELL copies, in order to enrich himself. Below area list of other people who have written books:

Ayn Rand
Adolf Hitler
Rush Limpbaugh
Chevy Chase
Sarah Palin
Glen Beck
Michelle Malkin

Look before I leap...

February 27th, 2013
1:34 pm

There will be one advantage to the new blogware, it should cut down on the schizophrenia around here.

Doggone/GA

February 27th, 2013
1:34 pm

“but your “moral right” thing is amusing.”

Personally, I would call it despicable. There was NO “moral right” to attacking Iraq

Arms Akimbo

February 27th, 2013
1:34 pm

“If you put the federal government in charge of the Sahara Desert, in five years there would be a shortage of sand.”
Milton Friedman
Getalife is on a roll today. I find his comments very Obamaesque- always blaming others, ill-informed, and completely intolerant of opposing views. Here’s a hint for you: life is richer with a diverse group of interesting friends with different opinions. Life gets dull when you know what someone is going to say at any given moment.

Matti

February 27th, 2013
1:35 pm

DDR: “Ewwww.”

I know! I don’t understand it either.

stands for decibels

February 27th, 2013
1:37 pm

As far as the notion that “hugging the enemy makes strips you of your conservative/liberal status,” as advanced (sorrowfully, I think) by Erwin’s Cat @ 1.16:

I guess Obama stopped being a liberal back in January 2009.

.

.

(actually, kind of a touching shot of W, I must say.)

Madmax

February 27th, 2013
1:38 pm

Steve – how about abortion. Those babies are not UBER rich, they are just dead.

HDB

February 27th, 2013
1:38 pm

“getalife, you ever got a job from a poor man?”

Definitely…..if you work for the government!!

Brosephus™: You can’t stop my vote, Homie!!

February 27th, 2013
1:26 pm

….and how many people forget that it was the US that ARMED Iraq in the first place in an attempt to keep the Iranians at bay……and it wsa during the REAGAN Administration that the mujahaddin was armed in Afghanistan to keep back the Russians…and we wound up having to fight against own own weaponry in Afghanistan……..

stands for decibels

February 27th, 2013
1:40 pm

Stevie Ray

February 27th, 2013
1:40 pm

That Black Guy

February 27th, 2013
1:18 pm

I know I know…I’m a fan of Woodward’s body of work…and have a cold…

Of course you are correct…thanks for pointing out I’m being a dope..

Steve

February 27th, 2013
1:41 pm

Madmax, I’d rather not be born unwanted. And who pays for the unwanted babies? You think we have a welfare state now???
A tiny 3 week old fetus is not a human. Just like a newly sprouted acorn is not a tree.

Joe Hussein Mama

February 27th, 2013
1:41 pm

td — “Again, the US Congress gave him not only the “right” and the “money” but also the “moral right” to invade Iraq on a BI PARTISAN (If I am not mistaken over 70 votes in the Senate) .”

Congress has no Constitutional authority to delegate its war-declaring powers. Therefore the “right” was not givable, regardless of who voted for or against it.

Secondly, during each year of the Iraq war (during Bush’s Administration), war costs were funded via “Emergency Supplemental Spending Measures.” Therefore, funding for the war was *not* provided at the time of its declaration as you appear to indicate above.

Finally, Congress has no express *moral* power to grant or withhold. You might as well speak of magic, or of the royal privilege of kings in this regard. Congress’ powers are expressly listed; no power to grant or withhold a “moral right” is among them.

“Just because you feel he did not have the “moral right” does not make it so.”

Just because you feel such a “moral right” existed in that case does not make it so.

Stevie Ray

February 27th, 2013
1:41 pm

Brosephus™: You can’t stop my vote, Homie!!

February 27th, 2013
1:26 pm

Did you see Charlie Wilsons War? What comes around goes around…

UNCLE SAMANTHA

February 27th, 2013
1:42 pm

NADER WAS STRONG ENOUGH TO TAKE OUT GORE!!

JUST LIKE PEROT WAS STRONG ENOUGH TO TAKE OUT BUSH SR TWICE

AND YOU ARE WELCOME FOR THE EDUCATION IN HOW POPULAR VOTES IN SWING STATES DETERMINE WHO WINS AND HOW STRONG 3RD PARTY CANDIDATES HAVE ENOURMOUS INFLUENCE ON THE TOTAL OUTCOME!

Steve

February 27th, 2013
1:44 pm

Samantha, why are you yelling? Take yer meds!

Look before I leap...

February 27th, 2013
1:47 pm

@Arms

Friedman was pithy, but wrong.
The amount of sand would not change.

The GOP would try to sell it as beachfront property.
The Dems would try to block the sales to protect the sand fleas.

Neither side truly understanding the issue:
It’s a FREAKIN’ desert.

stands for decibels

February 27th, 2013
1:48 pm

So it was “morally right” for Japan to attack us in 1941?

Since Iraq somehow managed to lose the war, I guess March 19, 2003 can’t be “a day that will live in infamy.”

In fact, I predict that a but few dirty effing hippies will point out on the 10th anniversary, that it was a tragic error and that many who supported it still are prospering (hi, Little Tommy Friedman!).

Most of the USA won’t bother to stop and take stock. The same Village a-holes who convinced us that the smoking gun could be a mushroom cloud (damn, I never actually typed those words before, and it is sickening to read them…) will go on collecting their pay.

Jesus wept.

/soapbox

DownInAlbany

February 27th, 2013
1:48 pm

Off subject, I know, but, this is an example of the dumbazzes we have running our federal government….http://www.politico.com/politico44/2013/02/white-house-was-not-involved-in-ices-decision-to-release-158027.html

DebbieDoRight - Republican Math That Makes You Feel Good Is Called Matherbation

February 27th, 2013
1:48 pm

Uncle S — Jesus would want you to be sane. Please comply with your nurses and take your medication; at least for today.

Tomorrow, if you want, you can be butt crazy as sin all you want!

WWJD?

Erwin's cat

February 27th, 2013
1:51 pm

Regnad – It occurred to me while watching a commercial last night – is Ken Nugent the “Saul Goodman” of Atlanta?

I grew to like Saul…Ken not so much, It would be funny if it turned out Ken was as dirty as Saul

td

February 27th, 2013
1:51 pm

DebbieDoRight – Republican Math That Makes You Feel Good Is Called Matherbation

February 27th, 2013
1:34 pm

If you think so highly of your moral position about having being attacked first then I guess you believe that us going to Europe during WW1 and WW2 was morally wrong since they never attacked us in either war.

We could talk about Bush and Clinton UN resolutions broken by Iraq or the documents signed by Iraq after the first gulf war. We could talk about the US national interest in keeping the free flow of oil coming in to ensure our (oil based) economy does not collapse. We could talk about the genocide Saddam was preforming on the Kurds or the rape houses to protect the women. What is the point. you have your mind made up that the Iraq war was Bush’s fault and that he was evil to take us to war.

TBS

February 27th, 2013
1:52 pm

“JUST LIKE PEROT WAS STRONG ENOUGH TO TAKE OUT BUSH SR TWICE – ”

And for your next trick you will produce a substantiated unbiased analysis broken down by state that will show had Perot not ran, Bush Sr would have won………

:-)

UNCLE SAMANTHA

February 27th, 2013
1:52 pm

HDB

AND NOW THAT HUSSEIN WAS REMOVED FROM POWER AND KILLED……… NOW IRAN IS A HUGE THREAT TO THE REGION AGAIN

REPUBLICANS WONT ACKNOWLEDGE THAT AS HORRIBLE HUSSEIN WAS, HE SERVED OUR NATIONAL INTEREST IN KEEPING IRAN IN CHECK…….. AS WELL AS MAKING SURE SAUDI ARABIA, KUWAIT AND OTHERS BOWED DOWN TO US TO MAKE SURE HE DIDN’T INVADE THEM

stands for decibels

February 27th, 2013
1:55 pm

A tiny 3 week old fetus is not a human

Medically speaking, it’s not even a fetus, but rather an embryo.

DebbieDoRight - Republican Math That Makes You Feel Good Is Called Matherbation

February 27th, 2013
1:56 pm

In fact, I predict that a but few dirty effing hippies will point out on the 10th anniversary, that it was a tragic error and that many who supported it still are prospering (hi, Little Tommy Friedman!).

Wow! I LOVE that song! It’s spoken word, but it’s linked to the best protest poster I’ve ever seen! Check out the big brains on stand! You’re not just looks anymore!

But back to your point, Haliburton — who milked the US out of billions AND didn’t pay one dime in taxes, (they’ve moved their entire business operation to the Middle East I’ve heard); and Cheney are so dang rich that they have THEIR “illegals” flown in direct from third world country brothels and jails straight to their houses!

They don’t have the time to wait until they jump over some fence!

Most of the USA won’t bother to stop and take stock. The same Village a-holes who convinced us that the smoking gun could be a mushroom cloud (damn, I never actually typed those words before, and it is sickening to read them…) will go on collecting their pay.

AND like McCain they are now trying to rewrite history and pretend that Iraq was a NECESSARY war and not a war of choice and profit.

If you have a chance, watch HUBRIS — it details the ascent of the GWB’s cabinet into madness and profit following up to the Iraq War.

Only a madman, and his posse, would drag a country into a war before they’ve even finished with the first war that they started.

And the dirty effing hippies were right!

Regnad Kcin

February 27th, 2013
1:57 pm

“If you think so highly of your moral position about having being attacked first then I guess you believe that us going to Europe during WW1 and WW2 was morally wrong since they never attacked us in either war. ‘

I don’t think anybody ever was attacked by “Europe” – what a silly thing to say. Do you feel that the US was not attacked by the “Axis Powers?”

Redneck Convert (R--and proud of it)

February 27th, 2013
1:58 pm

Well, this Christie fellow keeps Bad Company, if you know what I mean. I recall how the TV cameras were all over him and Obama back during that hurricane the Good Lord visited on the librul North for their Sinful librul ways. Us, we just get hit with a tornado once in a while because we’re Righteous!

And if you got a R after your name and you get a 74% approval rating in a state riddled with librul Democrats, well, I don’t need to spell it out for you but I will: R-I-N-O.

Anyhow, just let him switch parties like that former guvner in FL did. We don’t need no libruls in our party. We’ll fight the libruls on the beaches. We’ll fight them in the cities. We’ll fight them out on the farms. Heck no, we ain’t never surrendering. We might could be out of office for a few hundred years, but we got our pride!

Have a good p.m. everybody.

Joe Hussein Mama

February 27th, 2013
1:59 pm

td — “If you think so highly of your moral position about having being attacked first then I guess you believe that us going to Europe during WW1 and WW2 was morally wrong since they never attacked us in either war.”

HURRRRRRRRRRRRRRR

Just FYI, Germany and Italy declared war on the US on 11 DEC 1941. Being the obliging sort of folk that we are, we declared war on both of *them* later that day.

Man, it amazes me how some posters here managed to pass high school history. :roll:

stands for decibels

February 27th, 2013
2:00 pm

TBS

February 27th, 2013
2:00 pm

Uncle Sam

You are welcome to produce that analysis to back up your Perot theory at anytime….

Don’t be so bashful.

:-)

stands for decibels

February 27th, 2013
2:00 pm

the dirty effing hippies were right!

9 times out of 10 they are, turns out. (and that’s a conservative, back-of-an-envelope, estimate.)

Erwin's cat

February 27th, 2013
2:01 pm

And when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor…it was on!

Arms Akimbo

February 27th, 2013
2:01 pm

Look @ 1:47
Excellent

Union

February 27th, 2013
2:02 pm

off topic.. but..

“Bond was denied Tuesday for a Cobb County man that allegedly threatened to eat a judge’s children after killing his family”.

TBS

February 27th, 2013
2:02 pm

JHM @ 1:59

Well it is the same blogger who spoke of Reagan having to deal with a Democrat controlled Congress, when in fact Republican had the Senate for 6 yrs.

He is certainly facts be damned a lot of the time. If it meets his narrative and ideology, he will post it no matter how incorrect.

He don’t need no stinking facts

:-)

td

February 27th, 2013
2:02 pm

oe Hussein Mama

February 27th, 2013
1:41 pm

td — “Again, the US Congress gave him not only the “right” and the “money” but also the “moral right” to invade Iraq on a BI PARTISAN (If I am not mistaken over 70 votes in the Senate) .”

Congress has no Constitutional authority to delegate its war-declaring powers. Therefore the “right” was not givable, regardless of who voted for or against it.

If I am not mistaken what Congress did was to give the President permission to enforce a UN resolution. If I am not mistaken, we signed a treaty when we joined the UN that said in part that the member states had an obligation to enforce UN resolutions by the power of force (See our war with N. Korea). As far as the Constitution is concerned, a treaty supersedes the Constitution and becomes the supreme law of the land.

I hate that fact about treaties but the Constitution is the Constitution. Something for you to consider.

Granny Godzilla

February 27th, 2013
2:04 pm

“Conservatives have no interest in what Chris Christie might say ”

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I suggest that they are AFRAID of what Chris Christie might say.

straitroad

February 27th, 2013
2:05 pm

Jay, you would make a natural Obama Press Secrectary when Carney decides to go to work for a hedge fund.

DebbieDoRight - Republican Math That Makes You Feel Good Is Called Matherbation

February 27th, 2013
2:07 pm

td: If you think so highly of your moral position about having being attacked first then I guess you believe that us going to Europe…………..blah blah, blah………………We could talk about Bush and Clinton UN resolutions broken by Iraq……….blah, blah, blah…………could talk about the US national interest in keeping the free flow of oil coming in to ensure our (oil based) economy does not collapse…..blah, blah, blah…… We could talk about the genocide Saddam was preforming on the Kurds blah, blah, blah……..was Bush’s fault and that he was evil to take us to war.

All that above ^^ was really cute td — however, in that big long screech that you posted, you STILL didn’t answer my question!

How bout giving that a try? Just for grins and giggles…………. :roll:

So it was “morally right” for Japan to attack us in 1941?

You just take you time and think on that for a minute. No pressure. And hey, if the question is too complex or too…………….ummm………..advanced…….for you to understand, no worries; you can deflecterbate again and move the goal posts even further into outer space. If you’d like, you can even throw in the war of 1812 or the Korean War to muddy the waters!

I deal with the goal post movers on this blog all the time — I’m used to it.

Look before I leap...

February 27th, 2013
2:07 pm

@JHM

We also declared war on Germany in Apr 1917 because they violated the Sussex treaty and started torpedoing passenger ships once again. When the Lusitania was sunk taking over 100 American lives, we should have declared war then and there. But we waited 2 years.
Sad.

td also misses the point, Congress took action and declared war before we invaded.

Union

February 27th, 2013
2:08 pm

gg.. if it were not for gov christie’s “potential” health issues.. i think he could go farther.. he seems like a pretty straightforward person and manages to tick everyone off at some point.. so he must be doing something correctly.

Joe Hussein Mama

February 27th, 2013
2:08 pm

td — “If I am not mistaken what Congress did was to give the President permission to enforce a UN resolution.”

You are mistaken. The US has no unilateral authority to enforce UN resolutions. Besides that, the UN had already spelled out its intended next steps with respect to Iraq, which didn’t include invasion in force.

And just FYI, we *interfered* with at least two UN resolutions when we told UN weapons inspectors to GTFO of Iraq — where they were working at the time — because we planned to invade.

“If I am not mistaken, we signed a treaty when we joined the UN that said in part that the member states had an obligation to enforce UN resolutions by the power of force (See our war with N. Korea).”

You are mistaken. Member states have the obligation to assist the UN *when requested,* but also have the obligation to *not interfere* with UN operations and negotiations. Furthermore, the resolution that authorized our 1991 intervention in Iraq had long since been superseded by later resolutions, none of which granted the authority to any member state to act unilaterally in Iraq.

TBS

February 27th, 2013
2:09 pm

“I deal with the goal post movers on this blog all the time — I’m used to it. – ”

DDR: You better watch out with some of them. Some will move the entire stadium in efforts to deflect and divert.

Steve

February 27th, 2013
2:09 pm

@stands – you are correct …embryo

td

February 27th, 2013
2:12 pm

Joe Hussein Mama

February 27th, 2013
1:59 pm

td — “If you think so highly of your moral position about having being attacked first then I guess you believe that us going to Europe during WW1 and WW2 was morally wrong since they never attacked us in either war.”

HURRRRRRRRRRRRRRR

Just FYI, Germany and Italy declared war on the US on 11 DEC 1941. Being the obliging sort of folk that we are, we declared war on both of *them* later that day.

Man, it amazes me how some posters here managed to pass high school history. :roll:

And your point is? I was addressing DDR and her “morally superior” position that we can not go to war unless we were directly attacked. Germany and the Axis powers in Europe did not actually attack us before we declared war on them.

Is it not also true that the same people that actually attacked us declared a religious holy war on our nation?

DebbieDoRight - Republican Math That Makes You Feel Good Is Called Matherbation

February 27th, 2013
2:13 pm

And when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor…it was on! –

OMG EC!!!! I splashed freaking Pepsi all over my skirt after reading that!! You owe dry cleaning!

Brosephus™: You can't stop my vote, Homie!!

February 27th, 2013
2:14 pm

HDB

Seems like memory loss is almost instant.

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Stevie Ray

Nope, didn’t see the movie, but I’ve read the actual account.

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UNCLE SAMANTHA

Your idea of a strong 3rd candidate is about as rational as using sandpaper to wipe your ass after taking a dump. A strong candidate does well across the board, not in one or two cherrypicked states. You picked the wrong week to stop sniffing glue.

William Smith

February 27th, 2013
2:14 pm

If hour house is on fire don’t chase off the fireman because he differs from you on issues. This is Christie and Obama after Sandy. Time to reconcile as a nation and solve our problems. Christie only tried to help his people during a terrible situation, and now he is being labeled a RINO. If southern states had been hit by massive storms and needed help would we want the President to turn his back on our situation. I would not have cared what party you belonged to if my house had been destroyed.

Joe Hussein Mama

February 27th, 2013
2:15 pm

td — “And your point is? I was addressing DDR and her “morally superior” position that we can not go to war unless we were directly attacked. Germany and the Axis powers in Europe did not actually attack us before we declared war on them.”

Are you absolutely bereft of any sort of reasoning apparatus whatsoever? WTF do you think a declaration of war IS, ya freakin’ yo-yo? (laughing) :D

“Is it not also true that the same people that actually attacked us declared a religious holy war on our nation?”

What, Japan? (giggling) :D

Look before I leap...

February 27th, 2013
2:15 pm

“As far as the Constitution is concerned, a treaty supersedes the Constitution and becomes the supreme law of the land. – ”

Tell that to the injuns.

Article VI, section 2 of the constitution does not mean that treaties trump the US Constitution.
It means that treaties entered into by the US cannot be nullified nor abrogated by the states.

DebbieDoRight - Republican Math That Makes You Feel Good Is Called Matherbation

February 27th, 2013
2:15 pm

Is it not also true that the same people that actually attacked us declared a religious holy war on our nation?

You go boy! Keep moving that goal post! Pretty soon, we’re going to have to see your point of view through a telescope!

UNCLE SAMANTHA

February 27th, 2013
2:15 pm

EVEN THE WACKY LIBERALS FROM ILLINOIS BELIVE THAT LIFE STARTS AT FERTILIZATION…………………EVEN OBAMA

ONLY JAY-BOTS THINK OTHERWISE

Stevie Ray

February 27th, 2013
2:16 pm

I heard Plaxico Buress was seen at Grady High today…any truth to this?

Brosephus™: You can't stop my vote, Homie!!

February 27th, 2013
2:18 pm

DDR: You better watch out with some of them. Some will move the entire stadium in efforts to deflect and divert.

Don’t tell me that td drives one of these???

http://www.hankstruckpictures.com/pix/trucks/macneil/2004/june/package/file0010.jpg

Stevie Ray

February 27th, 2013
2:18 pm

MORALLY SUPERIOR? Like any of us can anyone on this site actually claim that over another?

DebbieDoRight - Republican Math That Makes You Feel Good Is Called Matherbation

February 27th, 2013
2:18 pm

Joe @ 2:15 — You owe me dry cleaning too — AND some monitor cleaner!

pete

February 27th, 2013
2:19 pm

More whining…I am shocked!!! Need to change the blog title to ‘Jay’s Whine List’.

It’s OK, you have 4 more years of that loser in DC.

stands for decibels

February 27th, 2013
2:19 pm

@stands – you are correct …embryo

I know it sounds nitpicky, but given that the pro-criminalization a-holes la-la-LOVE to depict the specter of “abortion on DEMAND” (i.e., a legality that is approved of by about 60-65% of the nation) as killin’ nearly fully-formed babies, and virtually always representing them in fetal form, it’s helpful to remember that at the median stage of termination this “human life” looks like this creepy thing, which is enlarged to show detail and is really about a quarter-inch long.

But, you gotta carry every one of those things to term because “murder” and whatnot.

speaking of which:

THE WACKY LIBERALS FROM ILLINOIS BELIVE THAT LIFE STARTS AT FERTILIZATION…

Is the point of this long-running performance-art piece you’re doing, ultimately, to see how many times people ask you what kind of drugs you’re on, and where they can procure said substances?

Is this log being maintained somewhere that we can link to and view in real time?

TBS

February 27th, 2013
2:20 pm

Bro

Uncle Sam is going to provide us with the analysis that shows had Perot not ran, Bush Sr would have won.

Right Sam?

getalife

February 27th, 2013
2:20 pm

Enough with war.

The US vs Iran wrestling match showed the real Iran.

They beat us and the only American that won is a celebrity in Iran.

They love him .

UNCLE SAMANTHA

February 27th, 2013
2:21 pm

Illinois* Ill. Rev. Stat. ch. 720 § 5/9-1.2, § 5/9-2.1 and § 5/9-3.2 define intentional homicide of an unborn child, voluntary manslaughter of an unborn child, involuntary manslaughter and reckless homicide of an unborn child, respectively.

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The laws define “unborn child” as any individual of the human species from fertilization until birth.
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The laws also specify that these provisions do not apply to acts which cause the death of an unborn child if those acts were committed during any abortion to which the pregnant woman has consented or to acts which were committed pursuant to usual and customary standards of medical practice during testing or treatment. (1986 Ill. Laws, P.A. 84-1414; 1987 Ill. Laws, P.A. 85-293; 2000 Ill. Laws, P.A. 91-404; 2010 Ill. Laws, P.A. 96-1000)

Mick

February 27th, 2013
2:25 pm

People forget but we had inspectors on the ground in iraq and saddam let them go wherever they wanted; they found nothing. He even let them into all of his palaces and they found nothing. Cheney/bush wanted this war to happen so against millions who protested, myself included, he went to war and our image has never been the same. Throw in systemic torture in abu gharib, and hundreds of thousands of collateral deaths, and you basically have an american president who should’ve faced war crimes. Sad history to have lived through..

Granny Godzilla

February 27th, 2013
2:27 pm

Union

February 27th, 2013
2:08 pm

gg.. if it were not for gov christie’s “potential” health issues.. i think he could go farther.. he seems like a pretty straightforward person and manages to tick everyone off at some point.. so he must be doing something correctly.
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I agree….