Pew: 65% of independents say GOP is ‘out of touch’

65% of independents say GOP is ‘out of touch’

It’s because they are

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BTW FIRST LOL

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could be like Newt and reach out and touch Calista

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Meanwhile, in Washington, House Speaker John Boehner says that his party will refuse to consider any budget solution that includes increased revenue. “Higher tax rates are not the answers to our problems,” he told the Credit Union National Association. “Spending is the problem, and spending cuts are the solution.”

Well he’s right. Spending IS the problem!! Look at what Congress is spending money on:

Two Wars

Tax breaks for businesses that don’t pay ANY taxes and if they pay a minimal amount, they cry and scream like spoiled kids

Tax breaks for the Queen of Means of the world

Tax breaks for the Paris Hilton’s of the world

Subsidies for Big Oil

Subsidies for Big Pharma

No bid contracts for people like Haliburton who in turn charge the government $1K for 3 bullets

Farm subsidies for Big Food

Pay raises for themselves every year (while denying a pay raise for the “little fellows”)

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All this stuff costs money!! So, yeah, Spending IS a problem; and it’s about time Congress (and Mr. Tan Man), does something about it!

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They lack credibility.

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“85% say the GOP has strong principles while ”

Yeah? So does a mule

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And, 100% of the cons here worship their Republican idols and trash Obama everyway they can.

A whiter White House just can’t get here too soon for them.

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Whose side are they on anyway? The rich have everything money can buy, up to an including a political party that does their bidding. How do they do it? I’m baffled how any middle class working stiff could lean so far right as to be willing accomplices to that ideology, they are depressing…

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What evil person would say something like this and put that atrocity of a picture inside my head?

And Jay claims to have rules for this blog…yeah, right buddy.

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…and 52% say the party is too extreme….

Didn’t Obama get close to 52% of the vote?

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“Democrats often accuse republicans of a line of thinking that goes “stand by my country right or wrong”

When you have to like to prove your point, you have no point

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oops! “lie” not like!

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DDR

switch to scotch it will take all those pictures out of your head. ALSO some brain cells

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“Hagel confirmed as defense secretary”

yeah, after nearly 2 weeks of the babies in Congress stamping their feet and rubbing their eyes.

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RC

now you’re thinking about Newt

I’m starting to worry about you

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Well, thanx alot, Debbie Do Everybody, for putting a picture in my head

NP RC – I do it out of love for you. You didn’t need that steak anyway — red meat’ll kill ya!

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Booo Common!! Boooo!!! :winnk:

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that is because 65% want the the other 35% to support their government benefits

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“that is because 65% want the the other 35% to support their government benefits”

Hey! We’re gaining ground! We’ve gone from 47% to 52% and now we’re all the way up to 65%. The plan is working!

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Hagel confirmed?

By all means, Free Fred!

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Maybe they “oversampled” Democrats to get the results they wanted.

Heard this one a thousand times leading up to the election. Figured it might be valid for this poll as well.

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‘What forces them to take that position they have is nothing more than ANTI-liberalism, ANTI-academia and ANTI-intellectualism.’

Jam, you give them more credit than I. I see a bunch of miserable, old, bitter, misinformed, closed-minded azzholes that are not able to deal with evidence that the world around them is changing (lots of it for the better, BTW), their ideology is a failure, their ‘leaders’ are hopeless and Obama’s approval numbers are the envy of GWB…

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The Party of ” I want MUH, Country back!” is now the Party of “if, We could return to the OLD DAYS of MUH Party, I would be Happier”.

The Republican Party burial will be held in 2014, just after the mid term elections. Wearing Black is optional! come as you are!

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“Republicans are more critical of their party than Democrats are of theirs on most issues”
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Possibly because they have much more about which to be critical?
Its like saying Alaskans complain about the cold weather in December more than do south Floridians. It has nothing to do with the virtue or insight of those doing the complaining, and everything to do with the environment they have chosen to inhabit.

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Doggone yes it is! Must be one of the AJC’s nine levels of blogging inferno!

Heard this one a thousand times leading up to the election.

The only thing worse that Karl & the Ostriches could have done is to send out a new version of the “Dewey Wins!” proclamation…

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65% of independenats might think that the GOP is out of touch but………………100% of decent people are revolted at the Democrats adopting the GOP’s neo-con war mongering and war criminal behavior.
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lol.
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.Here lies a cool infrographic showing the political schisms…………..that even a progressive can understand.(although they mistake socialism with private charity.).
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http://d24w6bsrhbeh9d.cloudfront.net/photo/6653870_700b.jpg

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Personally, I think they have a goal: to get their approval numbers below that of Congress

Perhaps they want to be the first to achieve a negative approval rating.

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We should sequester Congress and check on them every few months to see if they need a potty break and some more water.

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telling people what they want to hear is very popular. even if its a pack of lies.

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Out of touch, eh?

So where do these “independents” get their information?

ABC, NBC, CBS CNN, MSNBC, etc. O’bozo stenographers all.

Just like a mom who tells her kid to take the medicine to get better, she is no where near as cool as the favorite auntie who gives the kid cotton candy and tells him all is good, knowing full well she’s not the one who has to pay the dentist.

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Did I miss something? Is Fred in the penalty box?

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Moderate Line

February 26th, 2013
5:42 pm

Interesting enough there is a downward trend for both parties. Since Jan 2009 the Dems have dropped from 67% to 47% favorable rating. Republicans have gone from 40 to 33. Both parties are not doing well. In 2001 the Dems had a favorable rating of 60% and the Republicans had a favorable rating of 56%.

http://www.people-press.org/2013/02/26/gop-seen-as-principled-but-out-of-touch-and-too-extreme/
– See more at: http://blogs.ajc.com/jay-bookman-blog/2013/02/26/pew-65-of-independents-say-gop-is-out-of-touch/?cp=1#comment-1244264
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ssshhhhhhhh.
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lol.
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The Good guys always win.

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I’m using Firefox. Could it be a browser thing?

I use FF and was getting it earlier, but now it’s gone. Bizarre.

Fred is obviously waging guerrilla warfare on the blogs.

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SOOTH

Again…

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What does unskewed polls tell us about these independents? They must not have extremist principles, I guess.

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No. Everybody is out of touch and everybody is running out of time.
http://www.usdebtclock.org/

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…and yet the GOP dominate here in Georgia.

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Dems are popular – sKerry was right when he said Americans have the right to be stupid

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Milton

Was Jindal correct when he said the “Republicans should stop being the Stupid Party”?

Sink: Just like when several unnamed right leaning bloggers were posting about Democratic “oversampling” before the election. That one seemed to work out pretty well, huh?

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Frankie and dixie are the consummate Republicans.

Simply DENY the verifiable and repeatable facts, figures and reality that the rest of the planet uses.

Just pretend that the men who run the GOP know better and that everyone else is mistaken.

The peer-reviewed information that they don’t like and don’t want to know about is always dead wrong. (But don’t ask them why.)

There is this vast worldwide conspiracy against them and that belief is good enough to let them explain it all away.

Mountains of data, evidence and truths mean ZERO to these bats.

I LOVE THESE GUYS!

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“Sink: Just like when several unnamed right leaning bloggers were posting about Democratic “oversampling” before the election. That one seemed to work out pretty well…”

Don’t know what you’re talking about, tbs, nor why it matters.

Free Stuff won over the grown-up last November. You lib ilks may get away with it for any number of years from now, but sooner or later, you’re going to run out of someone else’s money.

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At least Milite doesn’t simply DENY the truth. He just explains it by saying that everybody besides him and his GOP pals are stupid. (Especially those lazy black people on the Dem plantation getting their free stuff, right Frankie?)

Don’t change a thing, cons…

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Sink

Before the election several bloggers were posting stories about the polls being incorrect because they oversampled Democrats. I noticed you posted an excerpt from the Pew Poll……

Same whining and deflection in my book.

As for free money, I have never been on any government assistance. While there is fraud and abuse I am thankful that it is there for those who needed. Your tired ass has never given me anything nor ever will, but you keep thinking that if it makes you feel better about yourself………. And also discussing it with the gas station guy.

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“(Especially those lazy black people on the Dem plantation getting their free stuff, right Frankie?)”

Jammie makes stuff up. Who knew?

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Fire people but don’t cut Obama’s salary and perks!

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Boehner: “Spending is the problem, and spending cuts are the solution.”

And since Obama agrees, spending cuts is what we’re going to get. LOTS of them.

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I got news for you folks, THEY ARE ALL OUT OF TOUCH WITH THE COMMON PERSON. Visit Washington, go see where the politicans live, where they relax, the homes they live in, the cars they drive. Some years ago one network (don’t remember who) did a peice on the new gym facility these people go to at no charge to them. (but to us). It was beautiful and staffed with trainers, dietitians, and others. Mabey Jay can tell us if its true that they vote each other increases in pay. The Democrats like to boast they are the common peoples party. I know the Republicans don’t want to tax the wealthy. Thats true, but if one beleives the Democrats are so in touch with the poor and needy? I don’t buy it. I don’t trust ANY politican. Last time I commented on problems with both party’s some deep thinker named Keith called me a Republican (retard). I may be somewhat retarded but I’m no Republican.

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Out of touch? You got to be kidding, Jay. These people are brain dead.

First their two chosen clowns and party mouthpieces tell the big lie that Obama cut $716 billion from Medicare and granny will have to die from increased premiums and lower benefits with Lyan Ryan using his momma as a prop.Worse yet he cut Medicare Advantage – granny has to pay for her gym membership but actually the private insurers their imbecile president put in charge of Medicare can no longer make big profits and pay themselves bonuses off of granny.
Now the same buffoons claim Obama has done nothing to cut entitlements while Boner has the House in permanent recess and the Senate GOP has sent McCain and Graham to the White House to beg for forgiveness and try to work a deal with Obama after these two trashed Hillary and Hagel. Any idea why their own call them the stupid party?Yeah bring Romney to C-PAC to explain why he does not want his tax deductions or revenue from offshore cut to gin up the imbeciles in the base-great idea.They haven’t a clue.

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indigo

February 26th, 2013
5:07 pm
And, 100% of the cons here worship their Republican idols and trash Obama everyway they can.
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What is it with you and your need to stuff people into boxes so *YOU* don’t actually have to think?

As a “lib/dem”, you are supposed to be for same sex marriage and against drug testing to receive welfare. That is, according to the *box stuffers*.

But you aren’t.

Kinda makes your “100% of the …” arguement, ummmm………sucking ftupid.

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“Keep, and let’s not forget one of Frankie’s new enemies of the Republican state – Chris Christie.”

Linkee?

Look Jammie, I’m a proud conservative with a serious libertarian bent. Yet you’re an embarrassed to admit you’re a flaming liberal, just like most who post here. “Progressive” seems to be the new euphemism for pinko these days.

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The stronger they become, the more an alternative the GOP becomes.

True dat. Huntsman, Jindal (maybe), Christie.

And the now disgusted American voters threw out some of the most virulent and extreme of them like West, Akin, Walsh, Mourdock and Allen. (Bachmann survived, but barely, and in a district that she should have won, handily.)

But as of today? Moderate Republicans still have one helluva time winning their primaries and running the purity tested gauntlet.

So, as of today, that moderating wing of the GOP is as about strong as a ten minute old foal.

And there is some considerable debate as to whether that neocon mare will allow her newborn to suckle and live….. or not.

But to your point jonix, it would greatly help the nation if that party did generally return to positions of the reasoned and reasonable center and gave up their Christians only, whites only reactionary madness…

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TBG

@ 6:41

Deep psychological problems stemming back from early childhood. Bless his heart.

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Amid budget cuts, lawmakers seek millions in tax breaks

Georgia lawmakers have been doing the same fiscal two-step every session since the start of the Great Recession.

First they wring their hands about not having enough money to fund things like for schools and public health care. And then they dole out expensive special-interest tax breaks that ensure that they have trouble funding schools and public health care.

Already this session, House members have filed more than a dozen tax-break bills, including one that would make permanent a tax exemption for Gulfstream, the maker of private jets on Georgia’s coast, and other similar companies.

Together, the tax breaks would cost the state — and save select individuals and companies — tens of millions of dollars at a time when K-12 education funding has been cut more than $1 billion and the state’s public health program — which provides services to 1.7 million Georgians — has monumental funding holes.

- See more at: http://www.ajc.com/news/news/amid-budget-cuts-lawmakers-seek-millions-in-tax-br/nWWDn/#sthash.kE1qFTs6.dpuf

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DDR

Howdy-do back a you!

Oh, I agree that a lot of it is bluster and PR,,,but, then, so are the Dems…I don’t trust either one of them…

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K’CHAK
@ 6:50

I’ll certainly give you your just credit there.

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Besides, where were all those “moderate” republican Senators that stepped forward and said, “How DARE you talk about, in such a vile condescending manner, Chuck Hagel’s character!!”

Where were those moderate republican Congressman who’ve said, “It’s time to STOP going after Obama, we’ve already lost that battle, and it’s time to focus on winning the war. Meaning let’s actually work for the people who voted for us and NOT the special interest groups?”

Where were those moderate republicans in Congress who stood up to the NRA and said, “You guys are delusional! Assault weapons were banned once before and the Constitutuion didn’t go down the toilet! they can be banned once again and the sun will still rise in the east!”

Where are those moderate republicans who stood up in front of America and said, “ENOUGH ALREADY ON BENGHAZI!! Let’s fix the damn country first!! Let’s FUND the State Dept. so that there will never be another Benghazi!!”

Somehow, those, moderate republicans have remained amazingly quiet!

Must be because they’re hoarse and can only speak when those nice green $100 bills touch their throats…….

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I have no desire to see the opposition entombed.

I do.

But ONLY in the figurative sense in terms of this disastrous, destructive and deadly political abomination called neoconservatism.

Actual American conservatism as led by real statesmen and men of moral courage and vision.

Not these petty little, perpetual war invaders, environmental looters and criminals, televangelist charlatans and corporate wh0res…

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Oh, I agree that a lot of it is bluster and PR,,,but, then, so are the Dems…I don’t trust either one of them…

Well to use one of your homegrown homilies, “That dog just don’t hunt! The old coon dog don’t wag his tail until the sun set! Only them young dogs holler at noon!”

I don’t know what the hell that means — but i heard this guy at the VA saying it when they were talking about “supposed” cuts to the VA’s budget.

josef — that dog don’t hunt!

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independent thinker, my bad.

I did not fully read your post. Certainly very carefully.

Please forgive my foot in mouth disease!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m7mIy97_rlo

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All American are welcome to join President Obama’s majority to solve problems.

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I know this Independent does.

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Big Daddy shared with me one of the greatest reads I’ve had in years

What’s the name of the book?

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DDR

Yeah, but he’s wagging his tail and licking my hand now instead of growling and snapping…

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sink
** I’m a proud conservative with a serious libertarian bent.**

That used to mean something at one time but right now the ideology of the far right is silly. It’s all about money, period. I’m not saying the deficit is not important, right now jobs and wages are or should be the most dominate issue and yet, all we get is 16 trillion. If it took us 12 years to get to this point, a reasonable approach would be at least that much time to unwind it all. We should look at it as a student loan to the citizens and pay it off accordingly…

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Forget the gop, join us living in the real world using real facts.

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I would submit that 90% of the politicians in Washington (and Atlanta, Nashville, Tallahassee, you get the picture) are out of touch with the general population. I don’t care as much about party affiliations so much as to say which one is more or less so out of touch. My opinion is that they all are.

Speaking of out of touch, I realize that I have been for a while, but I changed jobs, moved and started grad school so I like to think I have an excuse. Having said that – hey y’all!

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ZamVet

ooops left out the best part of that quote”
“And there I was trying to stretch two chickens over five people AND A COMPLETELY UNEXPECTED CHILD INTO THE BARGAIN when Stella Rondo set out to turn the whole family against me…” -

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Hey! iR!
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josef: Yeah, but he’s wagging his tail and licking my hand now instead of growling and snapping

That’s because he’s tasting you. Seeing if you’ll make a good treat/bone for later on.

NEVER trust a hungry dog that’s eyeing you as if you were a piece of steak.

I just made that one up!

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Speaking of out of touch, I realize that I have been for a while, but I changed jobs, moved and started grad school so I like to think I have an excuse. Having said that – hey y’all! – See more at: http://blogs.ajc.com/jay-bookman-blog/2013/02/26/pew-65-of-independents-say-gop-is-out-of-touch/?cp=2#comment-1244338

Good for you, irRational and I mean that in a good way. Now get out there and start opening some new doors.

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GOP out of touch? Who knew?

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DDR – You may have just made it up, but it is good advice. I’m 100% convinced that my dog would start chewing on my hand if I stayed still long enough. I’m also 100% convinced that he is plotting my demise so that I’m not there to interrupt his time with my Mrs. though, so those two things may be related.

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I agree we need to cut, cut, and cut some more, but not just on the backs of the poor and elderly. And, since tax revenue as a percentage of GDP is at a 60 year low, we need to raise revenues — at least until we get over the hump!

With an approval rating of around 10 or 12 percent, the Congress might need to do a little soul searching — hell, a colonectomy was few more favorably than the Congress of the United States. And, that stinks!

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But the problem is that the austerity he’s hell bent on implementing will greatly exacerbate them, not solve them!

yep. I’m not real happy with what I’m hearing from his road tour today. Same candy-ass crap about what a fabulous deficit reduction plan we could have if only those unreasonable Republicans would play ball. Blechh.

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tbs – Sup?

TaxPayer – Gotta pay the man, and in this case, the man holds my mortgage and sends me a electric bill every month and is a very demanding person. So hopefully the grad school will payoff.

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TM at 5:30 got it right. The 65% want the 35% to support them. And they do.

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josef

If that dog goes for the soft spot SHOOT IT.

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stands at 7:17, huge grin!

Hey (ir)rational. Welcome back!

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DDR

as long as you aren’t cooking everyone is safe

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(ir)Rational

Welcome back to the asylum!!!!!

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As my grandma used to say:
“Them boys got an odd turn to them…”

Out of touch, with the American people and with reality. They’ll legislate penises, vaginas, skin color and voting rights all day, but keep yer hands off them guns…

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One family tragedy followed another Tuesday, when shots were fired between two cousins arguing over music at a gathering that followed a funeral, according to police. –

See more at: http://www.ajc.com/news/news/shots-fired-between-family-members-after-funeral/nWZ8w/#sthash.JZTnbzae.dpuf

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Lib ilks**

**Witchie-poo spam. All rights reserved.

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jo, that is so awesome that you knew here personally. I know that she was also a big photog, especially for the Works Progress Administration (cue up Frankie screaming, “Commie pinko!”)…

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JamVet – Thanks.

F. Sinkwich – Construction management – basically business added to what I already knew.

Bro – Thanks, I felt like I had managed to get my insanity under control, but its all bubbling up again.

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Honey Boo Boo is going global.

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(ir)Rational

You sure picked one hell of a place to try to regain control. Good to have you back and know you’re doing good things.

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Honey Boo Boo is going global.

Great.

Another reason for the whole world to ridicule us.

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jo, I have a very dear MOT friend/colleague from Jackson and his dad is someone of note there. Ironically, he too is a damn fine photographer. He must be about 10 years her junior (I think he is 92 now), but I feel fairly certain that he knew her too! I’ll ask my friend the next time we talk…

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Kam – Yeah, some things are just sad/too easy. Sad because they accurately depict rural portions of the state, too easy because you could just about make a career in stand-up off that show. Then again, you know the network does their best to ensure that they are portrayed in the “worst” possible light.

Also, Chelsea are still a group of devils. GO GUNNERS!!!

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The sequester deal included Obama pledging not to ask for a more taxes. Sources: WAPO and other publications. The most hysterical instance of the administration trying to distance president redundant from this scheme is the NYT writer (I think Jackie Calmes) calling it the Gramm-Rudman sequester since way back in the 1980’s Warren Rudman and Phil Gramm discussed a sequester as a trigger to prevent overspending. If we are going to blame Boehner for all of the shiftlessness in the administration, why not just promote him to the presidency? If he is going to be the perennial whipping boy he might as well receive a pay raise. And he will be a cheaper employee because he is not nearly so self-indulgent as His Redundancy.

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ZamVet

A Jackson MOT? Inquiring minds…

I may have told this one here before, so forgive me if I repeat myself. When I was the editor of our high school literary magazine we dedicated it to our school’s most illustrious alumna, Miss Eudora. Full of chutzpah, I asked her to come to receive the dedication and the first copy. She graciously agreed, came and read “Why I Live at the PO” much to the joy of the assembled students, and told us that of the many honors she had received, this was one of her greatest.

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Kam – Yeah, they shouldn’t have let RVP go. ESPECIALLY not to the Red Devils. And, can’t really say much about international play considering what Bayern did to the Gunners last week.

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(ir)Rational

We need a new owner.

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jonix, contact me via Jay and I’ll share the family name with you. For all I know, you know them!

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ZamVet

Will do…been meaning to make contact there and this gives me a good reason…

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Can we say peeeeew. Jay is surely doing yeoman’s work for the left in avoiding the real topics. Topics like the campaigner-n-chief running around giving his asinine speeches about how if we reduce FUTURE spending by 2.4% the country will disintegrate. Give this stupid azz budget transfer authority and let the country see how well this sorry administration can truly govern.

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I have just one thing to say about the Hagel nomination/confirmation.
Is this the best Obama could do ? Not a worthy Democrat around ?

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josef

He couldn’t help it……….. Happy Hour is over

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JamVet
Mick has done javet and jahvet. Will it be jewvet next?

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recon

The defense industry needs to be whacked but those are some good paying jobs, where are they going to work, walmart? It’s the wrong time and the wrong tonic at this point in time. These things have to transition incrementally. It’s a bad deal right now, obama knows it, boehner knows it, the states know it and the american people know it. Do the republicans know it? Who are you going to blame???

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Mick

let’s go with JoVet and get it other with

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“Feds free illegal immigrants in Georgia, other states” – And let the flood gates open!

The Campaigner is making “his” mark on the country.

What an interesting time we’re in, a community organizer becomes POTUS and get’s to live “HIS” dream, not once, but, twice. Well god love him, apparently the majority of this country believes in him and his philosophy. Should’ve been a used car salesman, “all form, no substance”.

Can’t wait to see what happens next…….

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josef and Jam

Wouldn’t “faux Jewvet” be an even better name

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“Not a worthy Democrat around ?”

No such thing.

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CLASSIC EXAMPLE OF LIBERAL EMOTION OVER REASON ……. AND IT WILL COST LIVES.

Headline (FOX): “Is President Obama willing to draft women”

A) “The Obama administration framed its decision to put women into combat as a matter of choice and fairness.

In 1981, the Supreme Court upheld a males-only draft registration law for one reason alone: “Since women are excluded from combat, Congress concluded that they would not be needed in the event of a draft.

Obama has just single-handedly gutted the legal rationale for excluding women from the draft.”

B) “Congress must use its power to find out the truth about women in combat. Three questions must be raised, and the data collected to answer them:

1. What is the cost to military effectiveness of sending women into combat?

2. What is the cost to the taxpayer per successful woman recruit compared to male combat troops?

3. Finally, what is the cost to the physical and mental health of young women themselves, compared to male soldiers?”

C) “Even with sharply lowered physical standards for women in the Army, for example, women’s failure, injury, and attrition rates are much higher than men’s. (Meaning that the cost of recruiting one female soldier is much higher). Women soldiers also have higher rates of hospitalization for mental disorders and also higher rates of evacuation from the field for psychiatric reasons, a 2011 review of the medical literature by Dr. Fatma Batuman and colleagues showed.

And then there’s the fact that at least one out of ten active-duty women soldiers is pregnant, unintentionally each year. A 2013 study by Kate Grindlay and Daniel Grossman found that almost 11 percent of women soldiers said they had been pregnant unintentionally in the past year.

If one out of ten men were unavailable for combat each year because of an unexpected medical condition, our military would literally be decimated.”

D) “Listen hard to Marine Capt. Katie Petronio, who was deployed twice under combat conditions with the engineering corps in Iraq and Afghanistan. “My main concern is a question of longevity,” she wrote in the Marine Corps Gazette, “At the beginning of my tour in Helmand Province, I was physically capable of conducting combat operations for weeks at a time.”

However, “By the fifth month into the deployment, I had muscle atrophy in my thighs that was causing me to constantly trip and my legs to buckle with the slightest grade change. My agility during firefights and mobility on and off vehicles and perimeter walls was seriously hindering my response time and overall capability. It was evident that stress and muscular deterioration was affecting everyone regardless of gender; however, the rate of my deterioration was noticeably faster than that of male Marines and further compounded by gender-specific medical conditions.”

Petronio lost 17 pounds and is now infertile.

This happened even though she was carrying a fraction of the physical load men carried.”

Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2013/02/25/is-president-obama-willing-to-draft-women-like-julia/#ixzz2M3f10msV

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Other than embarrassing the never compromise neocons, I believe that the Hagel nomination was based on one primary premise/policy position:

More to the point, our war in Iraq, I think, was the most fundamentally bad, dangerous decision since Vietnam. ~Ex-Sen. Chuck Hagel (R-NE) to John McCain (R-AZ)

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barking frog: “I have just one thing to say about the Hagel nomination/confirmation.
Is this the best Obama could do ? Not a worthy Democrat around ?”

Ah, interesting question. Gets you wondering, doesn’t it?

Maybe, because, I don’t know, there’s not much difference between the Democrats and Republicans on this issue?

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“Even with his baggage, I guess Obama wanted to reach across the aisle on on of his appointments.”

Let’s cut to the chase, shall we?

O’bozo wants to crater defense. He’s ashamed we’re the world’s only superpower. So when we become as limp as a lib ilk weenie, he can blame a “republican.”

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TBS, excellent with one minor addendum

Faux Jew/Faux Vet.

The first half thanks to William/Towncrier/td.

The second half thanks to Del/recon.

I yam what I yam!

From that silly, but fun movie…

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jwCsH2gJs44

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F. Sinkwich: “O’bozo wants to crater defense. He’s ashamed we’re the world’s only superpower.”

Wow, you are truly dumb if that’s what you think.

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Welcome
The President can appoint whomever he wants but I doubt
Hagel contributed much to his election and I am sure there
are worthy Democrats who did. Disloyalty is unbecoming.

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JewVet

Yeah, you’re a double faux, not being a “real” Hebe, either!

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mick,

The presidents most important priority is national security. Gates had previously cut 500 billion out of defense due to our disengagement in Iraq and winding down of military operations in Afghanistan. The sequester takes additional billions of dollars out of defense, which is concerning at a time where America sees many potential adversaries even those who’ve returned from the past. This isn’t a good time to cut the military any further and that’s why I think the C-n-C should have budget transfer authority to ensure our national defense capability isn’t compromised by this looming sequester.

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How about old JUAN WILLIAMS …………… kind of gutsy to come out with that !!!

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Sure you do Senior Digits….Box 26!

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Any party that believes that social issues and wealth status issues supersede our critical economic crises had better start checking out their image with Americans before they become irrelevant.

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barking frog: “The President can appoint whomever he wants but I doubt Hagel contributed much to his election and I am sure there are worthy Democrats who did. Disloyalty is unbecoming.”

Well, that’s true. But, now re-elected, I don’t think Obama has to worry about proving party loyalty at this point. And he’s shown plenty elsewhere.

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Equal rights means equal rights !

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@Recon

We have a responsibility to defend our country with our military and to defend the citizens with our economic prowess.

I agree with you in that this sequestration is a foolish, foolish error.

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As Joe Schosbough (sp) said this morning on morning Joe, (paraphrase) the republicans have already given in on the two things that no one would ever had said they would just two years ago (tax increase and military cuts), where are Dems sacrifices?

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FROG

I’ve always been loyal to my supporters…

http://img.auctiva.com/imgdata/3/1/3/4/9/5/webimg/605102316_tp.jpg

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Almost 100% of people who go to McDonald’s weren’t gettering[sic] a salad anyway.

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Can not find a reference to when the last cut to Pentagon was made.

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(ir)Rational
I was just working off that.

Gotcha…

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And 50 to 55% of our fellow citizens (maybe) reelected a bigger moron than Jimmy Carter. Can their opinion of anything be trusted? No.

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And 50 to 55% of our fellow citizens (maybe) reelected a bigger moron than Jimmy Carter.

And several people here asserted over and over and over again that even Elmer Fudd could defeat Obama.

Can their opinion of anything be trusted?

No.

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since other dirty effing hippies are saying nice things about Jonathan Chait’s latest piece on Why GOPers Are Insane, I guess I should too.

http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2013/02/republican-sequestration-plan.html”

Republicans all agree that taxes are bad, defense spending cuts are bad, and some unspecified entitlement cuts would be good. The conservative media offer a window into the thinking of the Republican Party, and I follow it fairly closely. To read conservative pundits, Obama’s demand is higher taxes, full stop. Conservatives are not rejecting Obama’s offer. They are refusing to consider it at all. They will endorse Boehner’s impossible-to-attain goals, and they will denounce Obama’s imaginary all-tax alternative, and they will proclaim themselves ready to accept sequestration rather than submit to the socialist hell Obama would impose on them otherwise.

But consideration of the actual choice at hand — reduce tax deductions and cut Medicare and Social Security in a manner acceptable to Obama, versus seeing if Obama will cancel out sequestration with no replacement, versus accepting sequestration as permanent policy — is getting no hearing at all. I don’t know what Republicans will do, and I’m fairly sure they don’t either.

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We are spending more this year than last year.

yes, the teensy tiny increase is BAD, because… um… er…

austerity today
austerity tomoraah
austerity fo’evah

/drive-by

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@Recon

At some point in the near future, we will have to cut back on spending simply because our military will be out of Afghanistan and the weapons of war will not be needed as extensively.

However, we have a cyber-threat from the Chinese military that threatens to cripple our Information Technology systems that we depend on so heavily.

Without the civilian work force to help counter that threat, we will lose our military advantage. As you know, the Chinese have the world’s largest standing army and we can not stand and fight them using old school military tactics.

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Everyone knows…

Everyone?

Who died and appointed you spokesman for “everyone”?

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Hagel Confirmed: Jennifer Rubin & Bill Kristol Hardest Hit

Heh, heh, heh.

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@td

To use your analogy, you appear to be a Romney voter, but, do appear to have the ability to take advantage of his tax cuts for those making more than $400,000?

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Saladphobic’s

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josef
..pedal padding…I wouldna thunk it

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2011 total family income:
Total Obama Romney
Under $30,000 20% 63% 35%
$30,000 – $49,999 21% 57% 42%
$50,000 – $99,999 31% 46% 52%
$100,000 – $199,999 21% 44% 54%
$200,000 – $249,999 3% 47% 52%
$250,000 or more 4% 42% 55%

Sample: 24157 respondents

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Brosephus™ – Desktop but still Multitasking

February 26th, 2013
9:31 pm

Everyone knows that the least educated and poorest Americans voted overwhelmingly for the Dems. Those are facts.

*This message was brought to you by Home Depot™ home of the Brushomatic 3000. That MoFo will paint any and everything in one stroke!!

Please see the actual numbers above and go stroke yourself a little more.

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Kamchak – Mad Italian

Can I getter a Hamburger, Fries and a Coke?

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td:

Might as well knock it off.

Libs. go with emotion over facts/reason everytime.

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In 2012, Obama won voters without a high school education by a 64-35 margin and voters with graduate degrees 55-42, while Romney narrowly won four-year college graduates.

Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2013/02/25/not-a-total-loss-gop-picked-up-college-educated-voters-in-2012/#ixzz2M41Xz6MV

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F. Sinkwich A mind is a terrible thing to waste. You really should do something about that ignorance.

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“Libs. go with emotion over facts/reason everytime.”

Scout problem with your statement is that the blogger you are speaking to ran around the AJC blogs telling us how Rove and Morris said Romney would win and we wont even talk about his “over sampling” bs that he touted for months

He might not be the fact over emotion guy you would like him to be………

And seeing you touted a Reagan type victory based on nothing but emotion because it surely wasn’t fact based……. you might want to check yourself before you wreck yourself

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tbs

February 26th, 2013
9:48 pm

td

All those stats added up to what? A Romney loss

You can not beat Santa Clause.

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td I doubt that anyone here is surprised that you listen to rushbo- but you keep listening to that bag of hot air all day every day. But please don’t act like you have any idea what you are talking about. Try thinking for yourself once in awhile-

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@td

Things must be difficult for you to employ critical thinking skills as you must use Rush Limbaugh to validate your point.

As you point out, you think that those in the 47% category have their hands out?

What about you and your hand outs? do you get tax breaks? tax deferments? employ tax lowering schemes as tax avoidance is illegal?

If yes to any of those questions, your hand out is much larger individually than those in the 47%.

Prove me wrong.

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ohhhh Fred….

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y0Z9MPnlm_0

(fellow ABAC classmate from Juniper on the left)

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2011 total family income:
Total Obama Romney
Under $30,000 20% 63% 35%
$30,000 – $49,999 21% 57% 42%

That’s where Romney lost the election. THere are more families earning $50k and less vs those making more. When you denigrate hard working people and paint them all as welfare recipients and moochers, you should be grateful that the worst thing they do is vote against your candidate of choice.

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kayaker 71

February 26th, 2013
9:51 pm

Do not forget to mention that as Medicaid spending keeps increasing in states that Education funding keeps getting cut. Obamanites believe that it is better to GIVE them FREE insurance at the cost of their children’s education.

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Bro

He doesn’t seem to understand or care……. Either way it is very revealing to say the least

And I’m really gone

Everyone have a great night and an even better tomorrow

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You can not beat Santa Clause (sic).

Oh the irony.

When you denigrate hard working people and paint them all as welfare recipients and moochers, you should be grateful that the worst thing they do is vote against your candidate of choice.

I love td when he is in his Glenn Beck meltdown mode.

Guys like him are liberals/progressives/independents/moderates ace in the hole!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4gO7uemm6Yo

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tbs:

Are you talking “policies” (emotion over reason) or betting on hared to call elections?

Apples and oranges ………… )

Thanks for the heads up on Khe Sahn. Only got with about 8 miles of the place.

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Poor, despondent 71.

His depression is getting worse…

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Please see the actual numbers above and go stroke yourself a little more.

You’re the one painting the bogus assed broad strokes there. So, if anybody’s here stroking away, it’s you. Don’t let me interrupt your happy ending though.

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Another example of why the stupid party is losing touch:

“”"”"”"”ashington, DC – On news that Senate Republicans this evening successfully filibustered and thus blocked a yes or no vote on the nomination of U.S. Magistrate Judge Robert Bacharach to the U.S. Court of Appeals for the Tenth Circuit, Constitutional Accountability Center Vice President Judith E. Schaeffer said:

“Today’s filibuster is the lowest point yet in the Senate Republican leadership’s unprecedented blockade against President Obama’s judicial nominees, even utterly uncontroversial nominees like Robert Bacharach. With their action today, Senate conservatives have reconfirmed their total disregard for the third branch of our government — the federal judiciary — to the great detriment of our courts and all Americans seeking access to justice.”

Schaeffer continued, “Today’s vote shows that the partisan dysfunction in our Nation’s capital has drowned out virtually every conservative voice of reason in the Senate. Both of Judge Bacharach’s home state Republican Senators — Tom Coburn and Jim Inhofe — are on the record strongly supporting his nomination. In June, Senator Coburn even said that ‘it’s stupid’ for Senate Republicans to block a yes or no vote on consensus nominees like Bacharach. Nonetheless, rank partisanship and unprecedented obstruction won out today, as Senators Coburn and Inhofe, by refusing to vote for cloture, joined the vast majority of their Republican colleagues in denying Bacharach a yes or no vote on his nomination,” Schaeffer said.”"”"”"”"”"”"”"

http://theusconstitution.org/media/releases/unprecedented-obstruction-senate-republicans-block-consensus-federal-appeals-court

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Excuse me @ 10:07

“hard”

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How can the losers rub anything but their hips?

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Hey there 71, you have a little bit of spittle on your chin, there, might want to clean that up….

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kayaker 71:

And they will be the first to whine when things REALLY get hard !

But ………………….

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I4s0nzsU1Wg

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@kayaker 71

I do not feel lied to and feel very comfortable with the stance the President has taken relative to many of his domestic and foreign policy initiatives.

My only wish is that he had more support in the US Congress.

We are and will be the greatest country in the world, economically, as long as we continue to stand by our constitutional responsibilities.

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“Everyone knows that the least educated and poorest Americans voted overwhelmingly for the Dems”

I chuckle sometimes when I read such blatant expressions of wishful thinking on here.

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Answer the damn questions…

I did, sport.

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O.K.

So what will it be tomorrow morning?

The Sequester, MARTA or Charter Schools in Georgia ???

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Scout: td:

Libs. go with emotion over facts/reason everytime.

Who knew td was a lib… Seems as though emotion got the best of him telling me to stroke myself a little more, but I guess you missed that one, huh? It seems as though many conservatives here are more emotional than a bus load of teenage girls going to see the Backstreet Boys in concert.

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71 there’s no reason to respond to you – you’re not interested in discussion, just flaming. Believe what you will. It’s people like you who are the downfall of the Republican party. And the reason I left it.

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SEQUESTERGATE

What did Obama propose and when did he propose it ?

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@kayaker 71

Maybe you should come with another question of substance.

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Cherokee

February 26th, 2013
10:21 pm

“24k respondents out of a 100 million votes? Not impressive”

You notice he didn’t give the source either – likely because it’s some online poll for a right wing rag…

Go look up the firm hired by all the major news outlets to do exit polling and you will find the information.

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@kayaker 71

Please list the Obama “lies” that you think are the most egregious

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I take that as confirmation that the democratic mind machine has done good.

I mean after all,

You guys have convinced Americans that the constitution is just a suggestion, that blacks support gay marriage and that Hispanics are liberals despite the fact they are the most conservative group of people in the country.

Absent the racisim card that libs throw when they run out of thought, it would be the exact other way around.

I mean really, since when is it racists to kick out or punish folks who have violated our borders ?

Actually I am leaning toward the thought of giving up. I think it would do republicans and conservatives a great service to allow you libs to take total control. Only then will you have to actually take the blame for what you do. Raise the taxes, open the borders, take the guns and spend all of our money.

Proof is in the puddin. It’s time we proved your logic is a failure.

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yaker

Bush lied, people died…every president has lied to some degree and that’s your issue? Who’s being naive here? Sorry, but obama’s economic arguments as laid out in the SOTU were dead on, republicans have chosen to be the villians in this never ending obama drama…

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“Raise the taxes, open the borders, take the guns and spend all of our money.”

And therein lies the problem with conservatives – they’ve erected a straw man – and are desperately trying to knock it down, rather than dealing with reality.

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It’s time we proved your logic is a failure.

Go ahead.

Knock yourself out.

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It is hard to understand anyone’s belief that the Constitution is a suggestion. It is the concept that guides and controls our democratic republic.

Secondly, what racism card was used and by whom?

Do you forget that Ronald Reagan got an illegal immigrant amnesty program put in place and that President Obama has deported more illegal aliens than any president.

Please don’t give up your citizenship. Your vote is needed by the opposition party to help and debating policy.

What logical failure can you name?

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Seems to me that you are the one attempting to change the stroke in mid stream.

Dude, all I did was point out that Romney lost those who’s household income was less than $50k. All this other crap you’re talking about came from the voices inside your head. Romney Lost, get over it. As long as you keep talking sh*t about those in the lower income levels, Republicans will keep losing. In case you haven’t noticed, incomes for most people are not increasing.

I laugh at people like you because you’re so blinded by “team spirit” that you can’t even see that your “team” is headed full speed into a steel wall. My only regret is that there isn’t a serious third party that I could actually join to celebrate the downfall of the GOP without having to sometimes side with Democrats.

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kayaker

Honest question here. You obviously don’t like Obama, you don’t support Obama, you didn’t vote for Obama, so why are you concerned about him lying to his base/party?

I didn’t vote for him, and I don’t give a sh*t about whether he’s lying or not. I don’t put trust in politicians as I think they’re all collectively worth a $.02 baseball card that’s been rubbed in dog sh*t.

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Strike iran? Doubt it, but posturing? Yes.

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Not talking to u Kam,

Cherokee,

Prove any of those are false please.

Obama has raised taxes, he is allowing illegals to stay and he has added 6 trillion to the debt in 3 years less time than Bush added 10.

Isn’t all that factual.

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yaker

Then who did save the auto industry, romney? Ummm taxes were cut under obama..healthcare hasn’t even been fully implemented…try again

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Sign of leadership failure.Took 12 years for him to realize.where is Elmer Fudd?

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Brocephus, 10:42,

And all this time, I thought you were someone who thought for himself, put a lot of stock in straight up talk and took no prisoners. And you don’t care if he lies or not? He is lying to you, my friend and to all the rest of us. He does it every day, over and over and over. Put partisan politics aside….. Is this really the kind of leadership you want for our country?

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The GOP (Republican Party) is out of touch !!!

We urge reader of this blog to PLEASE read the terrific article written by AJC writer Mr. Jay Bookman on January 28, 2013.

The articled titled “Why does the Republican Party have the image as a party of white males”.

A PICTURE SAYS A THOUSAND WORDS.

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kayaker

You must not have understood what I said. All politicians lie. For me to expect Obama would not lie would be like me expecting to lay a golden egg out of my ass and cash it in at the bank. I’m the son of a politician, so I know how much they lie. It’s been that way for as long as I’ve been alive, so I seriously doubt that this is some new thing that just popped up.

That’s as straight as I can be. The first truly honest politician in this day and age will not be an elected politician. Hell, they all lie during campaigns, and people still vote for them. They’re not going to lie to get the job and then get some kind of honesty shot after they take office.

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(And Bro, feel free to correct me about immigration if I’m wrong….)

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Mick: “Strike iran? Doubt it, but posturing? Yes.”

On some level, no doubt what it is.

Surgical strikes are probably what is in mind, if there’s anything, but these things have a way of going further.

It’s been decades, but the US ruling elite is still really, really pissed about the overthrowing of the shah.

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God you libs love one person so bad that you fail to understand what he is doing and then you argue as if he isn’t / hasn’t done it.

Get you on a point and all of you turn to personal insults.

Kam, I have learned how you play the game. You have a never admit fault approach to anything. You could be caught in bed with someone other than you mate and you would try to tell us that you woke up and they were there. If that didn’t work you would say that your partner should have knocked.

Jam, my virtue had nothing to do with a lack of conviction. I am sure that you have heard the old saying that doing the same thing while expecting a different outcome is the very definition of insanity. I am changing my approach. You libs want it all your way, and your blind to the outcome, so have at it I obstructed, and then take all the blame. Gonna be hard to blame cons when you get all you want.

Jackie,
Apparently you haven’t done your taxes yet. Mine went up plus I had to report the value of the medical coverage that my company paid for. The net increase for me, without a status change was, $ 1,500 more in taxes paid this year over last.

It is what it is, you can deny it all u like

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Cherokee

Deportations are up. Our borders are “open” by design and demand. When you actually look at the sheer number of people who cross our borders every day and the volume of goods and merchandise, you’ll understand that “securing our borders” is not going to happen.

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You have a never admit fault approach to anything.

Of course I have.

I posted evidence here from a fake website as fact, and when it was pointed out to me, I apologized to the blog and Jay personally and vowed to do due diligence before posting a link as fact here again.

Of course you’re a Johanna-come-lately and weren’t around then.

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I am in the 35%! Just like I work for the 47%!

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Good for business – which is good for all of us I guess….

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President Obama lowered your payroll taxes by 2% and the House Repubs refused to keep this tax cut in place and subsequently allowed the Bush era tax rates to become law again.

Obama is able to control the House of Representatives?

for the first 2 years of his misadministration, YES!!!

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Its funny, democrats control the Senate, the Presidency, and for 2 years the House. yet somehow the nuts on here blame the GOP for obama and his partys terrible leadership. obama is a failed President. the economy, national security, everything. in every way he has failed.

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While u solicit Bro for comments ask him what percentage of those deported return. Play the entire equation out instead of stopping where you think the answer is

I don’t have that exact answer, and I don’t intend on becoming a chess piece in this debate. Contrary to popular opinion, immigration laws ARE being enforced. To the extent of locking down the borders so nobody gets in, I’ve previously stated my position on what it will take to accomplish that.

As long as we’re a desirable place to live, people are going to enter this country and live without authorization. We give away tourist visas like the Easter Bunny hiding eggs. There’s a growing list of countries who don’t need visas to enter the US. There is no system to ensure timely departures, so even if nobody ever crossed the land borders, we would still have illegal immigration issues.

Until we become a North Korea or Cuba, where nobody wants to live, we will have illegal immigration issues. If you put enough bodies on the land border where there were a person every 100 feet around the clock, they would still tunnel underground to get here.

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obama is a failed President.

And yet, Romney still couldn’t garner either the popular vote nor the votes in the electoral college to defeat him.

Too bad y’all didn’t nominate Elmer Fudd, huh?

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Poll of my northern wealthy suburb indicates nearly 100% agreement Cookman is an irrelevant liberal propagandist and we could give a Shiza what he thinks or writes. Also, we are all Doctors, degreed scientist, engineers and lawyers who vote conservative and watch your hated Fox News. We own you, live with it Biatch!

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just throw open your door and let everyone into your home.

Reagan’s 1986 amnesty says, “What?”

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Oh geez… Here comes the Disney Electric A$$hat Parade.

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if cherokee is going to say we need open borders then cherokee should open their door for all. they have no right to prevent people for going into their homes. its about freedom, right cherokee.

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hey kojak step into reality. your liberal lala land has you confused.

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This is encouraging news.
Hopefully, all the rapey guys and the Jesus on the velociraptor guys will soon be back on the sidelines, where they belong.

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“too bad you all didn’t nominate Elmer Fuddruckers, huh”

Too bad you are a complete bafoon and elected the equivalent intellect of an amoeba. Face it, O-baboonma was elected by the leech class. Congrats on the complete dumbing down of Amerika. Putz.

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Here Libby Libby libby, have some crack and a “on the low down lover” and vote democrat. Jokes on you suckers.

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I always check-in around this time. Insult hour is my favortite – See more at: http://blogs.ajc.com/jay-bookman-blog/2013/02/26/pew-65-of-independents-say-gop-is-out-of-touch/?cp=4#sthash.g6yK2WHG.dpuf

Seeing that you never have anything intelligent to say, it is usually best that you stay on the sidelines.

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Ellison calls Hannity a shill, the worse journalist he’s ever heard of.

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2013/02/26/rep-keith-ellison-hammers-sean-hannity-youre-a-shill-for-the-republican-party/?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter

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so what. msnbc, cbs, nbc, abc, cnn, YOU, bookman, ellison, are all shills for zero your pathetic hero.

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Guys let me say this then I am gone.

Most of you know I am a con and it is with that in mind that I have stood tall and fought the good fight with you. I mean I do know I am on a very liberal blog yet I have tried to argue con points. Most of you have entertained me, some of you are exactly what you say cons are, stuck and uncompromising.

As a con I have stated that I would work with libs to eliminate government recognition of marriage and make it between you and your God, with no tax advantage to either viewpoint. I have suggested that gay adoption should be legal nationwide for the benefit of the kids who need help from all. I have suggested that sensible gun control should be pursued, but by a constitutional avenue not executive orders or city mandates. Since it is actually spoken of in the constitution. I have tried to agree that tax loopholes be eliminated. All of these are con points of ill-repute however, for the most part I have seen very little give by you guys.

I will admit that I have stall worth positions but I have indicated where I would compromise, I see no such inclination from ya ll.

You refuse to lower taxes, control spending, acknowledge that our borders are wide open, you degrade our positions by use of race and you call my character not question when I make a valid point.

I would simply suggest that when a con indicates same sex unions should be recognized maybe just maybe he is trying to compromise with you.

Not that you care but I believe the blog changes are coming soon, when they do I will not sign up again.

With that I enjoyed the banter and hope that someday you guys will see there is a need to stop spending so much money.

I am sure some of you will have a smart response but so be it.

All ya ll take care and good luck in your fight.

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Romney was/is the superior man to lead this country. the lesser man was elected and reelected in both elections. obama owes the color of his skin for every thing he has ever achieved. it got him into harvard, it got him elected to the senate and it got him elected to the WH. Intelligent people look deeper into a candidate, their policies, what they stand for. what does obama stand for? gay marriage? no he said he opposed that, now he supports it. sequestration? he supported it now opposes it. said he would close gitmo and bring terrorists to NY for trial. never happened. said noone making less that 250,000 dollars wouls pay a DIME more in taxes. every taxpayer in the country now knows that was a lie. he stands for nothing. no convictions.

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bookman applauds ban on mandatory drug testing of welfare recipients. so its ok for them to use our money to buy crack. its ok for them to use our money to buy heroin. well i hope they buy enough to kill themselves so they wont be on welfare long.

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oh now black democrats arent racist:

This time, a similar showing was thought to be enough to hand Ms. Halvorson a victory. With the chance that other candidates could divide the support of black voters, African-American community leaders raised concerns about the possibility of losing a seat that has been held by a black congressman for three decades.

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Keith – You really need to go to your browser’s bookmarks and click “delete”, and just start all over. You’re on the edge…going over

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Dumbo,please fly away and take all of your administration and all of congress with you. Please?

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bman

Just record them and put them on YouTube. That way people worldwide can enjoy their stupidity. That’s what I would do.

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Good hump day morning, all.

For the out of touch GOP…

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s_8KR-n2fBQ

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100% of the mathematicians say that 90% or more of the liberal media members of the Obama Misinformation League lie 95% of time about the statistics that were gathered by pollsters who are 92.5% likely to skew their polls in order to prove their 69% political leanings. Of course, 110% of the time, Jay is just plain full of it! How is that for accuracy in statistics. As the saying goes, figures don’t lie, but liars figure! lol

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