How sequestration will affect Ga. citizens, businesses
Because of required furloughs and spending reductions for TSA security agents, FAA air traffic controllers, customs agents and other personnel, flight delays of up to four hours are predicted at major airports such as Atlanta's Hartsfield-Jackson International Airport.
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On Friday, March 1, federal spending cuts forced by sequestration will be implemented. The total amount of spending to be cut — $85 billion — is somewhat small, but its impact is magnified by three specific provisions of the sequestration law:
1.) Major budgetary areas such as Social Security, interest on the debt, the Department of Veterans Affairs and military pay are off-limits to cuts. Cuts in Medicare reimbursement are limited to 2 percent. That concentrates spending reductions to remaining portions of the budget.
2.) By law, federal agencies that do face sequestration do not have the ability to pick and choose which programs will be cut or by how much. All cuts must be across the board, by meat cleaver rather than scalpel.
3.) The law requires savings in the current fiscal year, which began in October 2012. Because the required cuts are not being implemented until March, they must be backloaded into the final months of fiscal 2013, compounding the impact. As a result, non-defense discretionary spending will be cut by 9 percent for the remainder of the fiscal year; defense spending will be cut by 13 percent.
As a result of the provisions outlined above, the consequences of the sequestration are relatively simple to project. Here is a sampling of the impact on Georgia, as outlined by the Office of Management and Budget:
Teachers and Schools: Georgia will lose approximately $28.6 million in funding for primary and secondary education, putting around 390 teacher and aide jobs at risk. In addition about 54,000 fewer students would be served and approximately 80 fewer schools would receive funding.
– Education for Children with Disabilities: In addition, Georgia will lose approximately $17.5
million in funds for about 210 teachers, aides, and staff who help children with disabilities.
Military Readiness: In Georgia, approximately 37,000 civilian Department of Defense employees would be furloughed, reducing gross pay by around $190.1 million in total.
– Army: Base operation funding would be cut by about $233 million in Georgia.
– Air Force: Funding for Air Force operations in Georgia would be cut by about $5 million.
Vaccines for Children: In Georgia around 4,180 fewer children will receive vaccines for diseases such as measles, mumps, rubella, tetanus, whooping cough, influenza, and Hepatitis B due to reduced funding for vaccinations of about $286,000.
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Aviation is a major industry in Georgia. Hartsfield-Jackson International Airport boasts the busiest airport in the world, and many businesses are located in the metro Atlanta region because of easy access to Hartsfield. However, spending cuts required by sequestration will greatly reduce the efficiency of the national system. As the OMB reports:
Aviation – At the major gateway airports, average wait times could increase by 30-50 percent. At the nation’s busiest airports, like Newark, JFK, LAX, and Chicago O’Hare, peak wait times could grow to over 4 hours or more.
Aviation security – The Transportation Security Administration (TSA) would reduce its front-line workforce, which would substantially increase passenger wait times at airport security checkpoints. TSA would need to initiate a hiring freeze for all transportation security officer positions in March, eliminate overtime and furlough its 50,000 officers for up to seven days.
Aviation safety – The Federal Aviation Administration (FAA) would be forced to undergo a funding cut of more than $600 million. This action would force the FAA to undergo an immediate retrenchment of core functions by reducing operating costs and eliminating or reducing services to various segments of the flying community… The furlough of a large number of air traffic controllers and technicians would require a reduction in air traffic to a level that could be safely managed by the remaining staff, resulting in slower air traffic in major cities, as well as delays and disruptions across the country during the critical summer travel season.
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Other impacts, also as reported by OMB:
Small business assistance – Small Business Administration (SBA) loan guarantees would be cut by up to approximately $900 million, constraining financing needed by small businesses to maintain and expand their operations and create jobs.
Oil and gas permitting – Development of oil and gas on Federal lands and waters would slow down, due to cuts in programs at the Department of the Interior (DOI) and other agencies that plan for new projects, conduct environmental reviews, issue permits and inspect operations. Leasing of new federal lands for future development would also be delayed, with fewer resources available for agencies to prepare for and conduct lease sales.
Veterans services – Although the Department of Veterans Affairs is exempt from sequestration, the Department of Labor’s Veterans Transition Assistance Program, which serves over 150,000 veterans a year, would have to reduce operations – leaving thousands of transitioning veterans unserved as they move from active duty to civilian life. The Jobs for Veterans State Grants Program would also experience cuts, translating into a reduction in the capacity to serve tens of thousands of veterans in their efforts to find civilian employment.
Title I education funds – Title I education funds would be eliminated for more than 2,700 schools, cutting support for nearly 1.2 million disadvantaged students. This funding reduction would put the jobs of approximately 10,000 teachers and aides at risk. Students would lose access to individual instruction, after-school programs, and other interventions that help close achievement gaps.
Senior meals – Federally assisted programs like Meals on Wheels would be able to serve 4 million fewer meals to seniors. These meals contribute to the overall health and well-being of participating seniors, including those with chronic illnesses that are affected by diet, such as diabetes and heart disease, and frail seniors who are homebound. The meals can account for 50 percent or more of daily food for the majority of participants.
Mental health and substance abuse services – Cuts to the Mental Health Block Grant program would result in over 373,000 seriously mentally ill adults and seriously emotionally disturbed children not receiving needed mental health services. This cut would likely lead to increased hospitalizations, involvement in the criminal justice system, and homelessness for these individuals. In addition, close to 8,900 homeless persons with serious mental illness would not get the vital outreach, treatment, housing, and support they need through the Projects for Assistance in Transition from Homelessness (PATH) program.
FBI and other law enforcement – The FBI and other law enforcement entities would see a reduction in capacity equivalent to more than 1,000 federal agents. This loss of agents would significantly impact our ability to combat violent crime, pursue financial crimes, secure our borders, and protect national security.
Customs and border patrol – U.S. Customs and Border Protection (CBP) would not be able to maintain current staffing levels of border patrol agents and CBP officers as mandated by Congress. CBP would have to reduce its work hours by the equivalent of over 5,000 border patrol agents and the equivalent of over 2,750 CBP officers.
– Jay Bookman
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JamVet
February 25th, 2013
11:42 am
I tend to agree with Nero’s 11:41…
Jefferson
February 25th, 2013
11:43 am
The GOP had rather protect tax loopholes than address the problem. They still don’t get it.
Erwin's cat
February 25th, 2013
11:43 am
Corbin – It’ won’t register my screen name for whatever reason…I’m likely out too
Independent
February 25th, 2013
11:43 am
Wow, these are really funny including Jay’s narrative. Wasn’t the AJC just reporting in the past 24 hours that Georgia was going to receive about $20M federal taxpayer dollars to spend on the homeless? I guess the sequester is being overblown just a bit if the dwellers under the downtown connector bridges are going to bag $20M as planes are falling from the sky, kids are having food taken from their mouths, and millions of kids, teachers, and first responders are being kicked to the curb. I wonder if Michele’s budget will take a hit? I would surmise not if we’re paying for her to fly to Hollywood so hubby can see her on TV with the glitterati.
KEITH
February 25th, 2013
11:43 am
keith,
Self deport.
no, i like Georgia we voted against the ignorant buffoon twice. he won twice because people like you were allowed to vote numerous times in violation of federal law. so as far as im concerned he is the illegitimate occupier of the WH
TaxPayer
February 25th, 2013
11:43 am
I don’t know what all the fuss is about with logging on to blogs and such. As a TaxPayer, I find that I’m accepted everywhere. Even in Republican circles.
straitroad
February 25th, 2013
11:44 am
Folks, think about this. Instead of spending a dollar, we’ll be spending 98 cents. That is not something to panic over unless you’re just in the business of manufacturing panic for political gain.
Stevie Ray
February 25th, 2013
11:45 am
TBS
February 25th, 2013
11:40 am
Not lately…been going to Washington Post more. Rest assured when any defense of GOP positions on any christian right/human rights issue is put up by Kyle, I’m on it. It is also fun to attack his often (not always) favorable views on current GA GOV state.
Unfortunately, he gets only a small fraction of the participants here.
TBS
February 25th, 2013
11:45 am
Stevie
Yes. With the new system one could have multiple handles, but will take time to sign in and out unless one is using multiple sources of means of posting. Now all it takes is for one to change the name.
Joe Hussein Mama
February 25th, 2013
11:46 am
J62 — “Anybody think it’s funny how the left likes to point out disunity on the right as a sign that the GOP is collapsing, but then get resentful when someone points out that the left is a party in lockstep groupthink?”
“Let me clue you in….”
No, let *me* clue *you* in.
The “disunity on the right” isn’t a sign that the GOP is collapsing so much as it is *confirmation* of it. Who are y’all arguing with? Another rightist party, that’s who.
And as far as the left being a “party in lockstep groupthink” goes, you’ve clearly never spent any time at all on a lefty blog like Kos or DU, let alone one like Firedoglake. There are plenty of people in the Democratic Party who are excoriating the President for not going far enough with things like health care, oversight of the financial industry and gun control. Whatever cockamamie bullspit the conservatives *claim* about the President on here, there’s almost certainly a small group of Democrats who actually agree with whatever the GOP Horsespit of the Day is. And a heap of Democrats who don’t agree with it at all.
Clue others in? Son, you’re in desperate need of cluing in yourself.
getalife
February 25th, 2013
11:46 am
The gop have been fighting for our economy to be like the EU economy.
They are staying the course.
Stevie Ray
February 25th, 2013
11:46 am
TaxPayer
February 25th, 2013
11:43 am
Clearly being a taxpayer has no special bearing on jumping on such sites…..
Jefferson
February 25th, 2013
11:46 am
Sorry there Keith ole buddy, but you come across as the childish ignorant buffoon when you spew like you do, hey but it you that gets judged as such… know it alls never seem to be happy.
KEITH
February 25th, 2013
11:47 am
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kj1y3q92sog
obama: i will veto any effort to get rid of these automatic spending cuts.
liberals say WHAT!!
Peadawg
February 25th, 2013
11:47 am
“The GOP had rather protect tax loopholes than address the problem. They still don’t get it.”
Again, Obama got his tax increase. On to spending like he promise.
UNCLE SAMANTHA
February 25th, 2013
11:48 am
WAHOO
WHAT ARE YOU TRYING TO SAY…… THAT THE GOVERNMENT SHOULD BE MORE EFFICIENT AND EFFECTIVE WITH THE TAX MONEY THEY SPEND????
ARE YOU CRAZY………… HOW CAN YOU EXPECT THAT
KIDS ARE GONNA DIE AND GRANNIES ARE GONNA DIE
TBS
February 25th, 2013
11:48 am
“Unfortunately, he gets only a small fraction of the participants here.”
That is true. It is more of an echo chamber over there; not always but on a fairly consistent basis.
KEITH
February 25th, 2013
11:50 am
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VqD2h7e_MLg&feature=endscreen&NR=1
obama: will congress stick to the deal we made for automatic spending cuts. some are already wanting to stop them. I SAY NO!!
liberals say WHAT!!
Stevie Ray
February 25th, 2013
11:51 am
TBS
February 25th, 2013
11:45 am
Got it…I’m wondering how exactly to model what will be my alter ego as it were. Have to be against gays, abortion..generally be a christian to the core….have to support all the fiscal policies of BO..have to feel that no amount of defense is too much and that the more empire building we do, the better off the world is..
Also, I have to believe that our elected officials actually care about us and think the deficit spending doesn’t matter nor does the unfavorably shifting deographics..also, firmly believe that any cuts at this time are our most imminent security threat…
Better think of a moniker first..any ideas?
liberal hack
February 25th, 2013
11:51 am
I just heard on the radio Jamie Dupree speaking, (Jay’s collegue) that the CBO is putting out that the 85 billion is actually more like 44 billion when looking at outlays in the Federal budget. So really 85 billion is about 2% now really is looking like 1%… 1. if we can’t find 1% of 3.6 trillion to cut we are in trouble. And if 44 billion in budget cuts are going to hurt the economy that much then we are in serious trouble. It is nonsense for the federal gov’t to be that much into an economy as it is. the gov’t role shouldn’t even be to support an economy.
BTW, I thought all of you libs were in support of military budget cuts. 13% is a pretty hefty cut! I thought you guys would be dancing in the streets naked knowing the military is being cut that much…
Joe Hussein Mama
February 25th, 2013
11:52 am
keith — “liberals say WHAT!!”
Liberals say “good.”
“liberals say WHAT!!”
Liberals say “good.”
Better reboot your puter there, Keith. Seems that your Windows for Telepaths software has encountered a General Mindreading Fault.
Reverie
February 25th, 2013
11:52 am
Obama got his tax increase and the greedy jerk did not give up anything to get it. Screw him. He and the democrats are spending us into oblivion with the help of you lapdogs in the press and we expect our children to pay for this. As a military retiree, the spouse of a defense worker and a gainfully employed member of the fanatical right wing, let it burn. The Republicans didn’t add this much debt in all of their administrations COMBINED. This is Obama’s economy and he and the rest of the leftist henchmen are happy to watch it burn. All the right can do is refuse to go down as supporting this lunacy. At this point all we can do is bring marshmallows to the bonfire.
Just for once I wish the lapdog press would report this with some semblance of balance instead of this pandering to the ITP group think. Your lack of professional ethics has damned our nation to generations of ruin. Your inability to put aside your fever pitched adoration of all-things Obama is vile and contemptuous.
Joe Hussein Mama
February 25th, 2013
11:52 am
L. Hack — “BTW, I thought all of you libs were in support of military budget cuts.”
Stop thinking. You’re not very good at it.
Stevie Ray
February 25th, 2013
11:54 am
TBS
I do think he is very thoughtful and bright guy..as is Jay.
I also think both of the current pictures are at least a decade old..kinda like my CV, passport and drivers license pics..
KEITH
February 25th, 2013
11:54 am
OBAMA LIED in the debate. Sequester will not happen. Sequester was Congress idea. Jay Carney: sequester was put forward by THE PRESIDENTS TEAM
liberals say WHAT.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AIGCWLqQaAE&NR=1&feature=endscreen
liberal hack
February 25th, 2013
11:54 am
I’m about as good as a thinker as you Joe!
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
February 25th, 2013
11:54 am
Did somebody just stumble onto “Mike” and his current persona?
Joe Hussein Mama
February 25th, 2013
11:56 am
L. Hack — “I’m about as good as a thinker as you Joe!”
Afraid not, son.
If you want to know what others are thinking, then man up and ask them.
If your alleged ‘thinking’ involves making things up and then attributing them to others, then perhaps you should pay closer attention in school.
Jefferson
February 25th, 2013
11:56 am
Because of the 250-450k compromise, revenues are not over…
Brosephus™ - Desktop but still Multitasking
February 25th, 2013
11:57 am
Peadawg: Again, Obama got his tax increase. On to spending like he promise.
Seems that you forget about the previous deals that were all spending cuts. If we’re to apply a balanced approach, then look at the entire set of “deals”. First, there was one with all cuts and no revenue. The 2nd one had cuts and revenue. So, it seems that the third one should be all revenue if you want a balanced approach. For some odd reason though, it seems like people forget about that first deal that was all cuts.
bman.
February 25th, 2013
11:58 am
No more Twinkies and now this? Will traffic lights be working March 1st?
liberal hack
February 25th, 2013
11:58 am
maybe not you Joe, maybe you are against the military budget cuts…but the talk I hear on liberal talk radio on on college campuses is that the military budget is too large and needs cutting…
JamVet
February 25th, 2013
11:58 am
drivers license pics..
I confess to even worse, SR.
My license says I weigh 175 lbs. I don’t think I’ve seen 175 in 15 years! (I just never bothered to changed any of the pertinent details!)
Seriously Folks
February 25th, 2013
11:58 am
Really? We are playing a blame game on “who’s idea it was?” Yes, the President and Dems supported the idea that IF we cannot agree on an outcome, then these cuts would kick in. But the Cons on here are arguing like teenagers!
This is the same concept of telling your teenager, “get your grades up, clean your room and do your chores, or you will NOT go on Spring Break.” And the parents keep reminding…encouraging…offering ways and times to do the stuff asked, only to have the Teen consistently ignore the parent and not do anything to chip in around the house…THEN the Teen (Republicans) throw a fit to anyone who will listen that “My parents wont let me go on Spring Break and it starts on Friday”
Again, YES, Obama voted for the sequester. But if you Cons on here cant accept that what this was, was an attempt to FORCE Congress to act on key provisions for debt reduction, and this would ONLY be a LAST DITCH effort to do it, then you are being dishonest.
And remember, this was done BEFORE the election….so the Republicans showed ZERO leadership, since they thought it would be moot, as they NEVER expected the President to be re-elected!!!
larry
February 25th, 2013
11:58 am
The President wants to close tax loopholes as part of an agreement to avoid the sequester and its a bad idea. The Republicans want no part of it.
But yet, just 4 1/2 months ago, they voted for a man who wanted to close tax loopholes to raise revenues.
Hmmmmmmm……..
JamVet
February 25th, 2013
11:58 am
…the military budget is too large and needs cutting…
Is that even debatable???
Joe Hussein Mama
February 25th, 2013
12:01 pm
L. Hack — “maybe not you Joe, maybe you are against the military budget cuts…”
I’m in favor of cutting in some places and against cutting in others. My position is a lot more complex than blindly “being in favor” of the cuts, as you so blithely put it, and if you add in all other Democrats, I think you’ll find that our positions are just as varied.
“but the talk I hear on liberal talk radio on on college campuses”
Since when do college kids speak for the entire Democratic Party?
“is that the military budget is too large and needs cutting…”
I think that the military budget is too large and needs cutting. That doesn’t mean that I favor the *specific* cuts that are going into effect at the end of the week.
Come on, man, think for a change.
liberal hack
February 25th, 2013
12:01 pm
I by the way don’t see an issue on there being a 13% cut in military spending. We have too many bases, especially unneeded bases overseas that need to be closed. And I know from personal experience that the Army can be pretty good wasters of tax payer revenue. There is no reward for spending as little as possible when it comes to unit spending, usually if you don’t spend what’s been budgeted, especially if you go under budget, your next year budget is cut. there should be rewards for smart spending.
Peadawg
February 25th, 2013
12:01 pm
“Seems that you forget about the previous deals that were all spending cuts.” – Nope.
THIS deal (in the present tense not that past), however, was Obama getting his tax increases and promising more spending cuts (then kicking the cuts down the road). Time for Obama to follow through.
Steve
February 25th, 2013
12:03 pm
When I read some of the absolute lies and made up $hit in here I can only roll my eyes, scratch my head, and thank God that the majority of Americans don’t think this way. This IS Georgia, don’t ya know…(insert the theme from “Deliverance” here)
Liberal Nightmare
February 25th, 2013
12:03 pm
“Here is the truth. The federal governmnet will spend more money over the next twelve months than at any time in our history. Fact: None of the cuts mentioned above will take place. Fact: If the sequestration takes place no one will noitce one iota of difference in their lives. Fact: Obama wanted the sequestration and vowed to vetoe any attempt to by pass it. Fact: everything you are hearing about sequestration in the media is a lie. Fact: the so called cuts are not cuts in spending but a reduction in the rate of growth in government spending. Fact: we neeed to stop the growth in government spending so let it happen and cheer.”
Posting facts on a Cookman blog will not be met with much attention. These Obamabots don’t listen to facts. Their MO is to 1. blame Bush, 2. bash Fox news, 3. pronounce how intelligent and enlightened they are.
getalife
February 25th, 2013
12:03 pm
It is pretty obvious, the Catholic church is gay.
TiredOfIt
February 25th, 2013
12:03 pm
More republican rip-offs: Major Banks Aid in Payday Loans Banned by States. Ted Cruz for president.
Steve
February 25th, 2013
12:04 pm
Peadawg, Obama has presented tax cuts to Congress how many times now? CONGRESS IS RESPONSIBLE FOR PASSING BUDGETS.
How many times do we have to keep repeating this?
liberal hack
February 25th, 2013
12:04 pm
besides, I find it shocking that anybody would be okay with spending a trillion more than you take in anyway…
I get emergencies, but most of this spending that we’ve done for the past decade and a half has been mostly discretionary and non emergency and there was not any worry about over spending. That’s shameful period.
Seriously Folks
February 25th, 2013
12:04 pm
@Larry….that was before Benghazi…all bets were off after that, didn’t you know??? (sarcasm!!!)
Nero
February 25th, 2013
12:05 pm
Across the board cuts is what’s needed. The Pentagon will juts have to learn to make due with less. We can’t win wars with what we have, so will a little less make that big of a difference? Redeploy from Europe and let the EU worry about the Russians.
TiredOfIt
February 25th, 2013
12:05 pm
Liberal Nightmare
February 25th, 2013
12:03 pm
“Here is the truth. The federal governmnet will spend more money over the next twelve months than at any time in our history.
++
And there are more citizens than at any time in our history?
Lynnie Gal
February 25th, 2013
12:05 pm
The GOP’s vision for our future is a hellscape with poverty, sickness and ignorance along with weakness of America’s military and ability to defend us against terrorism. They think their guns are gonna protect them, but with lack of air traffic controllers, they might go down in flames.
Peadawg
February 25th, 2013
12:06 pm
“How many times do we have to keep repeating this?” – None, I know Congress is responsible for the budget. Your point?
curious
February 25th, 2013
12:06 pm
Pull our troops from Afganistan, Germany, Japan, and S. Korea. Time for all of them to stand up.
Give S Korea a few nukes to deter N Korea.
UNCLE SAMANTHA
February 25th, 2013
12:07 pm
JAY SAYS
Georgia will lose approximately $28.6 million in funding for primary and secondary education, putting around 390 teacher and aide jobs at risk
=================================================================
GREAT!!!
LETS LAYOFF SOME APS AND DEKALB TEACHERS ………. IT CAN’T GET ANY WORSE
Welcome to the Occupation
February 25th, 2013
12:07 pm
Reverie: “Obama got his tax increase and the greedy jerk did not give up anything to get it. ”
Politics is too serious a thing for people to dabble at who either lack the intellectual capacity or are too lazy to follow what’s going on. Get a clue, son.
Adam
February 25th, 2013
12:08 pm
Paul: Yeah, more of the same here. Even in the comments since. Sigh.
No original thinking at all.
Brosephus™ - Desktop but still Multitasking
February 25th, 2013
12:08 pm
Seriously Folks @ 11:58
Good luck on getting people to understand that analogy. I like it though.
getalife
February 25th, 2013
12:08 pm
Instead of doing their job to do a budget, the gop chose these self inflicted wounds instead.
It is a huge mistake by the gop but the cons are still focused on getting our President.
JamVet
February 25th, 2013
12:09 pm
Whenever I read guys like UNCLE SCREAMER and keith, I always feel a bit like Dr. Jack Kevorkian.
Now, are you absolutely certain that you want to go through with this?
Joe Hussein Mama
February 25th, 2013
12:09 pm
L. Hack — “There is no reward for spending as little as possible when it comes to unit spending, usually if you don’t spend what’s been budgeted, especially if you go under budget, your next year budget is cut. there should be rewards for smart spending.”
That’s true in just about every sort of business or bureaucracy. My old man’s a professor of Agriculture with over 40 years of tenure, and he tells me that at the end of every Summer term, there’s a rush to order new equipment, books, computers, etc. in order to spend up whatever budget money is left. And it’s not just his department; he’s got friends in many other departments on campus, and they all tell the same tale.
FWIW, I agree with you; military commanders should be incented for the smart spending of their resources — not get a nice juicy budget cut in the next year.
Welcome to the Occupation
February 25th, 2013
12:09 pm
Reverie,
Dumb, stupid, snot nosed, lazy and gazing slack-jawed at the flickering FOX News screen is no way to life, son.
Doggone/GA
February 25th, 2013
12:09 pm
“Again, YES, Obama voted for the sequester”
Minor correction: he didn’t vote for it, he didn’t HAVE a vote. He signed the bill that included it.
KEITH
February 25th, 2013
12:10 pm
Instead of doing their job to do a budget, the gop chose these self inflicted wounds instead.
It is a huge mistake by the gop but the cons are still focused on getting our President.
Didnt you see obama saying he would veto any effort to stop sequester or was your head so far up obamas rear end you couldnt hear anything?
Brosephus™ - Desktop but still Multitasking
February 25th, 2013
12:10 pm
THIS deal (in the present tense not that past), however, was Obama getting his tax increases and promising more spending cuts (then kicking the cuts down the road). Time for Obama to follow through.
No, in totality, THIS deal was Obama getting some of his revenues because he didn’t get any on the previous deal. Simply trying to shift the deal does not negate all the previous crap that’s taken place. The GOP has been all about this deficit sh*t since 2011, so you can’t ignore the previous stuff just because it doesn’t fit your narrative.
Adam
February 25th, 2013
12:10 pm
I predict the people who are claiming that cuts never happen and Obama promised spending cuts are going to turn around on March 2 and claim that now that we have both spending cuts and revenue increases, that we need more spending cuts and no more revenue increases.
Anyone want to do an over/under?
weetamoe
February 25th, 2013
12:11 pm
The point is, as others have said, he did propose the idea. And the deal he made included his agreement not to request additional revenue. If you remember, he pulled this scam on Boehner once before, when hours after their agreement he demanded a revision including additional taxes. And he then blamed Boehner because the deal fell through. The information is readily available from a variety–a variety — of sources. Obama has truly earned the title of Liar in Chief. George Will’s allusion to the familiar *dogs of war* in his *let slip the hamsters of sequestration* is a relevant comment on the denigration of the presidency by Obama.
Nero
February 25th, 2013
12:11 pm
getalife,
And Obama is still focused on making cheap political theater. Your point? Cut it all across the board and the country will adapt.
Joe Hussein Mama
February 25th, 2013
12:11 pm
curious — “Give S Korea a few nukes to deter N Korea.”
Yeah, the Chinese wouldn’t be very happy with that.
Right now, the Chinese are at least tugging on NK’s chain kinda halfheartedly. Let’s not give them an excuse to say ‘f**k it’ and just let go of the chain completely.
Adam
February 25th, 2013
12:11 pm
LUNCH
Steve
February 25th, 2013
12:12 pm
Peadawg, then why are you placing blame on the President when this is in Congress’ hands and Congress’ responsibility???
TBS: Posting on weekends so PD can cry on Monday
February 25th, 2013
12:12 pm
“so you can’t ignore the previous stuff just because it doesn’t fit your narrative.”
You must be new here………
KEITH
February 25th, 2013
12:12 pm
Minor correction: he didn’t vote for it, he didn’t HAVE a vote. He signed the bill that included it.
he signed it because it was HIS IDEA in the first place.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AIGCWLqQaAE&NR=1&feature=endscreen
cant we all agree, obama is a liar?
getalife
February 25th, 2013
12:12 pm
Cut it all across the board and the country will be back in a recession like the EU.
JamVet
February 25th, 2013
12:12 pm
600,000 civilian jobs for the DoD to be cut???
Wow! That’s a lot of union thugs at Lockheed, Boeing, Northrup and Raytheon, huh Frankie?
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
February 25th, 2013
12:12 pm
George Will.
There’s your sign.
Welcome to the Occupation
February 25th, 2013
12:12 pm
Too many rubes in this country, scruffy necked with five o’clock shadow gazes, faces struck dumb with a bedazzled buck-toothed look of stupefaction, mullet wearing dirty baseball cap sporting plebes all of them.
Get yerself some lernin! Fools.
Steve
February 25th, 2013
12:13 pm
What’s funny is if Obama stepped in and “showed leadership” as you demand, you Confederates would be the first to scream bloody murder that he’s overstepping his bounds, he’s “King” or what not.
This forum is retarded.
Welcome to the Occupation
February 25th, 2013
12:14 pm
Nero: “Cut it all across the board and the country will adapt.”
That’s what they’re doing in Greece. And it’s failing.
Disastrously.
Nero
February 25th, 2013
12:14 pm
Joe,
Yeah the Chinese are so tugging on that chain with the recent ballistic missile test and that miniaturized nuke they just touched off.
Stevie Ray
February 25th, 2013
12:14 pm
TiredOfIt
February 25th, 2013
12:03 pm
We are still subsidizing banks to the tune of 83 billion a year or so..don’t be naive to think that both sides don’t get benefit from these banks…especially when both parties continue to appoint former Goldman, Citi and the likes for cabinet posts etectera. Not a GOP exclusive..
KEITH
February 25th, 2013
12:16 pm
obama: sequester a bad idea. Jay Carney: sequester was obamas idea.
liberals say WHAT???
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=endscreen&v=3yc5miKHju8&NR=1
curious
February 25th, 2013
12:17 pm
Joe Hussein Mama
“Yeah, the Chinese wouldn’t be very happy with that.”
Let’em grumble. We owe them so much, they can’t afford to tick us off too much.
Heck. We’re so dependent on China’s cheap labor and money, we are powerless to do anything about their hacking, other than complain.
Stevie Ray
February 25th, 2013
12:17 pm
Brosephus™ – Desktop but still Multitasking
February 25th, 2013
12:10 pm
IMO, multitasking is simply doing several things not well:-)
I do recall BO opted to continue Bush tax cuts a few short years ago…don’t recall what he asked for whenever last time is but he definitely got somewhat extorted with debt ceiling..I’m still not sure that was a good or bad thing..
Steve
February 25th, 2013
12:17 pm
When it comes to spending money, Congress is in charge—not the president. If you Confederates are not aware of that, perhaps you ought to take a look at Article I, Section 8 of a little document called the United States Constitution.
JamVet
February 25th, 2013
12:17 pm
Not a GOP exclusive..
Ask Timothy Geithner…
Paul
February 25th, 2013
12:17 pm
Bemused 1114
Glad to read the grudging thanks. Re. discretionary appropriations originate in Houseand they are in no mood. Heard a Republican committee member refuse to consider it. They want to protect their districts.
You know Obama has proposed entitlement reform and angered Democrats. Specific written us stupid at this point just another silly diversion. Heck Republican leaders did not even respond to that.
Now I need to help the folks prepare their taxes
Nero
February 25th, 2013
12:18 pm
getalife,
If that’s what it takes then so be it. A reset is needed. It’s the best course the country can take. We will be just fine.
Peadawg
February 25th, 2013
12:18 pm
“Peadawg, then why are you placing blame on the President when this is in Congress’ hands and Congress’ responsibility???”
B/c it was his idea, he signed it into law, and now he’s trying to do a 180 on it by scaring everybody. The bucks stops with him, remember?
“The GOP has been all about this deficit sh*t since 2011, so you can’t ignore the previous stuff just because it doesn’t fit your narrative.”
Not exactly ignoring it…just moving on.
Joe Hussein Mama
February 25th, 2013
12:18 pm
Nero — “Joe, Yeah the Chinese are so tugging on that chain with the recent ballistic missile test and that miniaturized nuke they just touched off.”
You mean the missile test that failed? With the payload that’s just kinda careening about in uncontrolled orbit?
And if you’ve got such issues with the Norks having nukes, then surely you know that they’ve been firing off underground tests since 2006.
But hey, if you want to go toe-to-toe with them, be my guest. There ought to be an enlistment office somewhere near your home.
Me? Been there, done that, got the DD-214.
KEITH
February 25th, 2013
12:18 pm
LIBERALS HAVE THEIR HEADS SO FAR UP OBAMAS BUTT THEY COULDNT HEAR OBAMA TOUTING SEQUESTER AS A GREAT THING.
UNCLE SAMANTHA
February 25th, 2013
12:18 pm
Welcome to the Occupation
February 25th, 2013
12:14 pm
Nero: “Cut it all across the board and the country will adapt.”
That’s what they’re doing in Greece. And it’s failing.
Disastrously.
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CAN’T COMPARE GREECE TO THE U.S.
TWO DIFFERENT SITUATIONS…………..
EVERYONE WILL STILL FIANCE OUR DEBT LIKE THEY DO JAPAN WHO IS 230% IN DEBT TO GDP……..
GREECE IS FALLING BECAUSE THEY HAVE NO ASSETS OR INCOME STREAM
THE U.S. HAS TRILLIONS IS ASSETS AND TRILLIONS IN INCOME STREAM……
THE REST OF THE WORLD WANTS US TO KEEP GOING IN DEBT BECAUSE THEN THEY WILL BE ABLE TO BUY ASSETS AT REDUCED PRICING AND WITHOUT U.S. GOVERMENT RESTRICTIONS.
NO ONE WANTS TO BACK GREECE BECAUSE WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO GET?
A POPULATION WHO DOESN’T WANT TO WORK BUT WANTS TONS OF BENEFITS
Steve
February 25th, 2013
12:19 pm
“Republicans aren’t satisfied with the chained CPI Social Security benefit cut President Barack Obama has said he would be willing to accept in exchange for closing loopholes and deductions. They look at the fact that the budget deficit has dropped by roughly half since President Obama’s first year and scoff. They hear that projected Medicare spending has already dropped by more than Simpson-Bowles originally sought and think to themselves that this is a good idea:
Nearly two million people who have been out of work for more than six months could see unemployment payments drop by 11 percent in checks that arrive in late March or the first days of April, according to the White House budget office, an average of $132 a month. [...]
The National Institutes of Health, for instance, would need to cut about 5 percent of its annual budget in just seven months, meaning hundreds fewer research grants, said Kathleen Sebelius, the health secretary. Money for food safety inspection and air traffic controllers would also be cut.
Roughly 600,000 low-income women and children would stop receiving food aid.
getalife
February 25th, 2013
12:19 pm
I like other countries tried different things after the collapse to see what worked.
The gop want EU austerity that failed badly so we will not use that failure.
Game over.
kayaker 71
February 25th, 2013
12:19 pm
Every time someone in DC mentions budget and tax cuts, we are faced with this doomsday scenario that the sky will fall in at any moment and that no one will be able to board a plane, get ambulance service, get their SS benefits, etc. It is the same every time and the scenario is usually fostered by the Democrats as a way of scaring the American public first and later having someone to blame. 85 B in this system represents only 2%. If we can’t get rid of 2% without going TU, we are in bad shape.
Joe Hussein Mama
February 25th, 2013
12:20 pm
Curious — “Heck. We’re so dependent on China’s cheap labor and money, we are powerless to do anything about their hacking, other than complain.”
I know, right?
You didn’t happen to pick up the Citadel drive-by trojan lately, did you?
It popped up on one each of my home and work puters. I still have no idea where I managed to pick it up. Heck, the most non-work stuff I do on those puters is read news, stock reports and traffic and weather reports.
Stevie Ray
February 25th, 2013
12:20 pm
curious
February 25th, 2013
12:17 pm
Those jobs shouldn’t and never will come back…not likely in our lifetimes..
Interesting info. Appears between 2001 and 2008, we lost 2.4 million jobs or about 400 k a year..
http://www.epi.org/publication/counting_the_jobs_lost_to_china/
KEITH
February 25th, 2013
12:20 pm
When it comes to spending money, Congress is in charge—not the president. If you Confederates are not aware of that, perhaps you ought to take a look at Article I, Section 8 of a little document called the United States Constitution
When obama supported sequester liberals supported sequester,. now that obama opposes sequester, liberals oppose sequester. Now if only obama would tell them sticking your head under water until your lungs will up with water is a good idea.
Steve
February 25th, 2013
12:20 pm
As the GOP Congress just sits there with their thumbs up their…the Confederates blame Obama.
RB from Gwinnett
February 25th, 2013
12:21 pm
larry, “The President wants to close tax loopholes as part of an agreement to avoid the sequester and its a bad idea. The Republicans want no part of it. But yet, just 4 1/2 months ago, they voted for a man who wanted to close tax loopholes to raise revenues. ”
Try again lightweight. Romney proposed closing loopholes as an alternative to the the top rate change. Obama already changed the top rate and now he wants more in the form of these loopholes. Double dipping.
Did you not know that, larry, or do you just think your comments are cute and hope people aren’t paying attention?
Stevie Ray
February 25th, 2013
12:22 pm
Steve
February 25th, 2013
12:19 pm
Is that what you are counting on? Death and starvation to those in need? Get real.
Nero
February 25th, 2013
12:22 pm
getalife,
We will and you’ll get used to it. It’s coming Friday and no amount of your crying will stop it. You’ll be fine.
Steve
February 25th, 2013
12:22 pm
Just like were led to believe Romney was the clear winner – you are in denial that the majority of AMericans are going to blame Congress. Obama isn’t stupid, this is political theater that he is learning to manipulate.