DeKalb school board has forfeited right to office

I know very little about this kind of thing, so at the risk of seeming stupid, are the board members required to be educators?

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http://cheezburger.com/7071325440

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Thanks, Doggone,
I was hoping that, even while elected, there was some sort of condition that you had to know something about education.

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Good stuff. There is no doubt they should go, or be forced to leave. If they really cared they would have resigned a long time ago. Sadly, like many politicians, it’s all about power.

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“I was hoping that, even while elected, there was some sort of condition that you had to know something about education”

I would suspect that at least part of the reasoning is the same as civilian oversight of our military…which is why the President is not required to be either an active or retired military person

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AJC article says somehting about race

Are you familiar with the “ctrl-C” and “ctrl-V” keystroke shortcuts? if so, you might consider actually quoting what this “something” might be and sharing with us.

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@ stands go to lead article on the ajc website about this and go about 80% down and read the quote by Melvin Johnson yourself. It would be informative to get other info (than Jay) on this subject…

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Stands,
Thanks for that. Am I the only one who thinks that a career in education should be a prerequisite for the job?

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UNCLE SAMANTHA

February 22nd, 2013
8:07 am

If it means a better education for our kids, then YES, by all means, spend more money…wisely. It’s not the amount of money spent, it’s how its spent. With oversight, spending does work.

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Amend the state’s archaic sovereign immunity laws so that school board members can be sued for abuse of power and resulting financial consequences.That will bring an end to this kind of nonsense,

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archaic sovereign immunity laws so that school board members can be sued for abuse of power and resulting financial consequences

interesting angle. Are there other states that’ve had success correcting abuses through civil cases? not a “gotcha”, I’m genuinely intrigued.

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YES
RAISE MORE TAXES IN DEKALB TO PUMP INTO THE SCHOOLS

THAT WILL SOLVE IT

THEY NEED TO BUILD MORE NEW SCHOOLS AS WELL

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@ Stands, we’re trying to have a decent conversation, non political about education and you just have to go ahead in your pathetic ,adolescent way to be obnoxious and pull in “Bush Crime family..’, whatever and I’m happy you read the article yourself. The discussion is about the education system not you…Pathetic …

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I SAY LET THE TEACHERS UNION RUN THE SCHOOL SYSTEM!!!!

THEY WILL SOLVE THE PROBLEMS

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How in the world would you implement a requirement that a group of elected representatives from across a county end up being comprised of a pre-defined mix of former educators, parents, financiers, etc.

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Education is not valued in this state; it is the ugly sister of football. The board of education use to be a voluntary position that attracted truly interested highly qualified individuals from the community. The school use to be community, look at the resumes of these board members or any in this state, no rhyme or reason. No public school is knocking it out of the park. Education in the state as a whole in not what keeps elected representatives awake a night, illegal immigration, turning down free money for healthcare that could go to education and on and on. In my parents day they would have rioted if their tax dollars were spent this way. Education was important, only a fool left home without one. Dysfunctional, should be in our state seal, it would explain a lot more than peaches about what we are.

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oh and alex, do spare me about your “decent conversation.” You’re the one bitching about a comment made about race nineteen freaking paragraphs down into a story and trolling for a reaction.

Post of the day. Tone troll is obvious.

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IDEA

lets use LOTTERY MONEY………… to spend on computers for kids that CANT READ, WRITE or do MATH!!!!!!!!!

then lets spends more LOTTERY MONEY to put middle class white kids into college on something we will call a DOPE SCHOLARSHIP

why spend ANY LOTTERY $$$ on K-5 in DEKALB or the STATE……… we have the best computers that kids can’t learn on and a lot of rich white college kids partying their tails off

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It has been my observation through the years that school board members frequently have hidden agendas that they don’t want to divulge until they finally have to.

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“I SAY LET THE TEACHERS UNION RUN THE SCHOOL SYSTEM!!!!

THEY WILL SOLVE THE PROBLEMS”

Unlikely, since at least in GA, they don’t have any bargaining ability, and therefore zero power.
But then, where they exist, they are actually made of of people who are trying to educate our kids.

BTW, Sam, the cost of keyboards has come down dramatically in recent years. Try Walmart. They can fix you up with one that doesn’t have a stuck cap key for very little money.

Or, are you just trying to be rude?

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Good morning, all.

Corbin and stands, you are dealing with a screaming nitwit, what do you expect? Intelligent, adult discourse?

Is it possible that the culture of substandard education in Georgia, Dixie and the American southwest is so entrenched and so longstanding, that high quality education (the kind that rivals northern and Midwestern states, see top 20 below) for most of our children is no longer possible? From what little I know about this subject, the dismal results apply equally across the board, from all black urban schools to white rural ones?

There’s good news and bad news about the state of education in America. According to The Annie E. Casey Foundation’s newly released KIDS COUNT Data Book, we’ve made progress and have had some setbacks. Academics and health have improved in most states, but our children’s economic well-being continues to decline.

From the period of 2005 to 2011, there was an 11 percent reduction in the rate of high school students not graduating in four years; and an eight percent reduction in the proportion of eighth-graders scoring less than proficient in math. More kids are attending preschool, and elementary school kids are reading better. On the downside, from 2005 to 2010, the number of children living in poverty rose by 2.4 million.

http://www.takepart.com/photos/5-worst-and-5-best-states-educate-your-kids

Massachusetts
New Jersey
Vermont
New Hampshire
Connecticut
Maryland
Minnesota
Pennsylvania
Colorado
Wisconsin
Virginia
Kansas
Montana
Iowa
Nebraska
North Dakota
Illinois
Ohio
New York
Rhode Island

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The real problem in Georgia is just like how they act on a federal level. They cannot compromise or get along with anybody. I get the feeling the very white state government enjoys watching DeKalb, it makes the state look normal and displays in their mind the problem at hand. Black people can’t govern themselves. The right has figured obviously they don’t need the black vote nor can they get it to win statewide election so they have no obligation. Listening to the country English spoken by most of the state elected officials not much time has been spent on their personal education either. Funny I have noticed the nation treats Georgia the same way Georgia treats DeKalb, ignores them. You have a very hard time getting businesses into the mess called Georgia. This is where the full might of some powerful person should be not some side issue like immigration or gays getting married.

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@ GT, what is it about a region that values college football more than the education of a university, that donors give millions to a coach, but leave the english dept. wanting, I don’t get it.

@ Uncle, you rave, I don’t disagree, where do you suggest the lottery money go. Keep in mind that many studies argue that pre-k education does not improve educational outcomes (a controversial subject, no doubt)

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Government Schools at their best…Teacher unions at their best…time for vouchers AND PARENT RESPONSIBILITY….but I do wonder who is paying for the lawsuit the board members filed to keep their positions ( not jobs)

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If there are no criminal violations involved, then the Board members should stay.
The people voted them in, and they may vote them out.
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If I remember correctly, DeKalb voted Obama in by something like 112 %.
Same thing.
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The people HAVE to learn……..the hard way………..elections have consequences.
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Forward Democracy.
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lol

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FUN, interesting.

To the extent that sophistry lacking in any context or understanding of American history could be…

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Jay,

How were the problems in Dekalb and Clayton Counties identified and these methodologies being utilized to evaluate the remaining counties?

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Oop! “are” these

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alex

February 22nd, 2013
8:57 am

@ Uncle, you rave, I don’t disagree, where do you suggest the lottery money go. Keep in mind that many studies argue that pre-k education does not improve educational outcomes (a controversial subject, no doubt)
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Alex
All the lottery money should go to K-5 to underperforming students to teach reading writing and arithmetic…… THE BUILDING BLOCKS OF EDUCTATION…….

we all know the school systems where a good percentage of the students cannnot even do these 3 basics……….. INSTEAD OF MORE MONEY FOR ALL…

TARGET MONEY IN PROGRAMS AT K-5 TO TEACH READING WRITING AND ARITHMETIC

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There is nothing improper about this message.. Let’s see which of you are proud enough to send it on.

Why are white people so stupid? They cut and paste long forwarded e-mails, can they not compose a simple paragraph in English? I pay taxes so they can sit in school and these people don’t even appreciate the opportunity they’re given, to pull themselves up by the bootstraps and learn at least one language.

Maybe if white people weren’t so busy popping out welfare babies and selling drugs they could learn to “axe” their own questions.

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If our all caps screamer had half a brain to learn how to post without screaming, I would point out that those jobs are being created in places where MARTA runs and these areas are obtaining jobs because Roswell and Alpharetta have extension fiber optics networks and other infrastructure that have been created over the years. The very same type infrastructure that some fail to see the need for continued investment. But that kind of response takes an ability to have intelligent assessment and an operational functioning brain. Something those who scream are incapable of doing.

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I think there is a huge opening for a Democratic Party candidate not only in the senate race but the governorship next election.

Seven Republican governors have walked away from their refusal to take money for healthcare from the federal government; our brain trust is not one of those seven.

This education is our second national crisis after healthcare. We need a state leadership that can live as a member of this country not a rebel without a cause. Lord if we had any results from this isolation and immature conduct of our leaders I would get out of the way, but it has been a complete failure in every definition of the word.

I always get a kick out of the local guys talking about immigration and how if the feds can’t handle it they will. What outside football has this state handled correctly in decades. We need the federal government and we need a group of leaders than can act like adults and work together with the country we live in. What we as a state hate and lie about in facts is the cure to most of our problems or at least a start. Progressive is a dirty word but when you are in the mud and not getting out, staying the same is even dirtier.

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kinda makes a good argument for charter schools eh?

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Well, DeKalb and Clayton use to have good schools. Then Those People took over running the schools and turned schooling into politicking. I’m not suprized. Not that I’m a rascist or anything like that.

Have a good Friday everybody. I’m out here dodging raindrops and trying to get my stores and bars stocked up so you drunks music lovers can swap weird songs. Be sure and take advantage of it. With the new blogging thingie about to hit us, it might could be the last chance you have to have a real FNM. It won’t be the same when we have to cut and paste a innernet address in our browser.

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“Since December, when the DeKalb school system was notified that its repeated misbehavior had put its accreditation in danger, board members have made it more clear than ever that their top priority is maintaining their own power and authority. They have hired outside legal counsel, at considerable taxpayer expense, to protect their own jobs. They have filed state and federal lawsuits, again at considerable expense, challenging the state’s right to remove them.”

I read that and I thought “whaaat?!!? All that effort to preserve their position on a school board?!!? ”

Then I remembered some of our fellow bloggers and how fixated they are on what constitutes the high points of their lives.

Ain’t no ego like an insecure ego.,

Jay

“Thurmond also vouched strongly for the current DeKalb board’s willingness to help him. The problem is, as an employee of the DeKalb board, he cannot fix the board. His own competence, reputation and experience have no real relevance to the board’s fate. Furthermore, it is unfair and inappropriate for the board to use Thurmond as a mouthpiece to plead publicly on their behalf. His job as interim superintendent is to improve the education being offered to DeKalb students, not to preserve the jobs of the board members who hired him.”

In your opinion, does Thurmon really think he can improve the education of the students in spite of the board?

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71, Fun and Peadawg demonstrate the prevalence of the “Negro problem” in the American right wing, especially in the Deep South. (Wonder where that came from?)

I think that is a bit of a stretch…if anything your comment furthers their point

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Aquagirl ,
February 22nd, 2013,9:00 am,
“Keep in mind that many studies argue that pre-k education does not improve educational outcomes”

Please name one of these “many studies.” Have you read them?

Here is one story Aquagirl and if you wanted to know the truth you could have found it yourself since this study was widely covered.
“It is now 45 years later. We spend more than $7 billion providing Head Start to nearly 1 million children each year. And finally there is indisputable evidence about the program’s effectiveness, provided by the Department of Health and Human Services: Head Start simply does not work.

According to the Head Start Impact Study, which was quite comprehensive, the positive effects of the program were minimal and vanished by the end of first grade. Head Start graduates performed about the same as students of similar income and social status who were not part of the program. These results were so shocking that the HHS team sat on them for several years, according to Russ Whitehurst of the Brookings Institution, who said, “I guess they were trying to rerun the data to see if they could come up with anything positive. They couldn’t.”

Maybe Bush did this study and he lied. Maybe all those head start kids are really college grads right now right Aqua ?

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How many of those board members are Democrats? All or most I would guess, which explains the incompetence at anything but lining their own pockets with taxpayer money.

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Georgia has had 10 Constitutions since 1777.

The current Georgia Constitution was adopted in 1983 and has been amended 70 times.

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“Stay segregated, cons.”

The top 5 ranked states are:

1. Massachusetts
2. New Jersey
3. Vermont
4. New Hampshire
5. Connecticut

Interesting demographics.

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As the old saying goes, “all politics is local.” And the deal with our crumbling schools is a non-partisan issue. Yes, we all have differing opinions on HOW to implement changes in educating our kids, but at the end of the day, I am of the mindset that if its broken, then FIX IT. WHO cares who gets credit, since the end result is a better opportunity for ALL the kids in Metro.

What the students and their families CHOOSE to do with that opportunity is another issue entirely!

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seriously? – ‘kinda makes a good argument for charter schools eh?’

‘kinda’ in the same way King Textiles argued that poisoning the
water down here prevented overfishing

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JamVet
February 22nd, 2013
9:31 am

It’s very sad that it’s come down to that. It happens to me everyday on here (from lefties and righties alike). Very sad. I guess I’m just weird for not marching in line on every issue and being a good liberal or republican. If I agreed with “the other side” on something, I’m automatically “one of them”.

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AmericaShrugged you keep doing what you are doing. Your club house is burning down, our’s is getting bigger. You isolate the state then you isolate the counties, what a recipe for success. Most of the blue states are far more successful than what we are. It doesn’t take much, fog a mirror as they say but I would keep my pointing to a minimum if I were you.

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michael thurmond will try, but one year not enough and then they will have to start again. no continuity. only way for system to improve is tough medicine for kids, parents and teachers. all need to give more effort but hard to do in today’s culture of sitting on your arse and letting someone else or the tv do it.

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Jay, I’m surprised you didn’t just find a poll saying that X% of people think they should be removed.

You have clearly demonstrated that the rule of law is unimportant to you, and what really matters is how a majority of people answer a poll question.

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Welcome to Georgia
Georgia has had 10 Constitutions since 1777.

The current Georgia Constitution was adopted in 1983 and has been amended 70 times
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Etch-a-Sketch patterned their product on the Georgia constitution.

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Bob

It’d be nice if you’d cite where that Head Start analysis came from.

Personally, I don’t think whoever did the article was familiar with the purpose of Head Start or other remedial-type early education programs. They wrote “According to the Head Start Impact Study, which was quite comprehensive, the positive effects of the program were minimal and vanished by the end of first grade. ”

In other words, Head Start did what it was supposed to do: prepare children to function with their peers so they wouldn’t be behind at the outset – kindergarten and first grade – so the schools didn’t have to hold the kids back or spend resources to bring them up to par. So of course the results ‘vanished’ by the end of first grade. They were supposed to!

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White History Month?

http://www.upworthy.com/the-definitive-response-to-jerks-asking-but-what-about-white-history-month?c=upw1

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UNCLE SAMANTHA – I urge you to listen to this. Money is not always the answer, but it sure goes a long way in education.

http://www.npr.org/2013/02/22/172674083/commissions-report-outlines-education-priorities

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First and foremost to be a board member you MUST be loyal to Atlanta’s political mafia. Corruption and incompetence overseeing corruption and incompetence sounds a lot like the formula used in D.C. On another note: Andrew Cook finally got what he deserved for murdering two humans – and it is about time. 20 + years of tax payers paying to house and feed this scum is 20 years to long. Cook finally got COOKED!

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FUN GUY
February 22nd, 2013
8:58 am

Do you REALLY want to go there??

1) “You say that whites commit a lot of violence against you.. so why are the ghettos the most dangerous places to live?” Lest you forget….the ghetto was where whites first segregated against Jews….then they amplified the segregation against blacks and other minorities…..When you deny economic opportunity to a certain segment, that segment goes into survival mode..and by whatever means……..

“You have the United Negro College Fund.” A conservative answer to the lack of educational funding for blacks and other minorities!

” You have Martin Luther King Day.” You have George Washington, Thomas Jefferson, Abraham Lincoln, Confederate monuments…….are you afraid to honor a major minority force in American history??

“You have Black History Month.” You have American History in perpetuity….and the distortions and omissions therein; are you afraid to fill in the blanks??

“You have Cesar Chavez Day.” — See above

“You have Yom Hashoah. You have Ma’uled Al-Nabi.” — see previous two

“You have the NAACP.” An organization that was founded to gain the CONSTITUTIONAL protections for minorities that they majority ALREADY HAD!! Also remember that the GOP was first founded by freed blacks…but now, it has been co-opted by racist whites (also known as conservatives….check your history)

” You have BET.” BET is owned by Viacom…..

” If we had WET (White Entertainment Television), we’d be racists.” You have NBC, ABC, CBS, FOX…and look how the preponderance of minorities is portrayed in the media…….not especially friendly, is it??

” If we had a White Pride Day, you would call us racists” How about Confederate Memorial Day??.

“If we had White History Month, we’d be racists.” You have American History…which tends to marginalize the minority effect upon the American paradigm…….

“If we had any organization for only whites to ‘advance’ OUR lives, we’d be racists.” Try the KKK, John Birch Society, the Tea Party……

“We have a Hispanic Chamber of Commerce, a Black Chamber of Commerce, and then we just have the plain Chamber of Commerce. Wonder who pays for that??” …and how long were minorities kept OUT of those organizations?? How long has minority speeding power been ignored by the majority??

“A white woman could not be in the Miss Black American pageant, but any color can be in the Miss America pageant.” Really?? Remember, Vanessa Williams didn’t get crowned Miss America until 1983…..and she was the FIRST to be ALLOWED…..and to WIN!!! What took so long??

“If we had a college fund that only gave white students scholarships… You know we’d be racists.” You do…try LEGACIES!!

“There are over 60 openly proclaimed Black Colleges in the US …” A conservative answer to being denied entrance to predominately white colleges until the late 60’s

” Yet if there were ‘White colleges’, that would be a racist college.” Did you forget Bob Jones University……..

“In the Million Man March, you believed that you were marching for your race and rights. If we marched for our race and rights, you would call us racists.” You forgot all the crosses that were burned to pronounce “white rights”…..you forget the aspects of the KKK, John Birch Society, Skinheads, and the Tea Party……

WAKE UP, my friend….there’s more to the story than what you’re being told!!!

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Without criminal complaints I don’t think an elected official
can be removed from office but the attempt may bring about
a change in the voters selections but that does not insure that
the choices will be wise ones. However charter schools and
scholarships will eventually change the situation.

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Finally some relief for the family of the young girl murdered by Andrew Cook – and the world won’t shed a tear for his passing – rest in HELL Andrew Cook.

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Right on cue, I can make the puppy piddle.

Pavlovian.

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First Bookman wants to depose the duly elected Sheriff.
Now the school board.
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What’s up with these Obama Totalitarians?
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Give em an inch………………………..

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And I guess Kamspam’s 9:53 answered my 9:53…that’d be no.

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BOTH

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Although it may be fun and easy to say that all GOP is racists, that comment in itself shows a high level ignorance. I can find racists in any group and organization. One does not make all, so if you can’t keep your stupidity out of the gutter than just go away, you are useless to the world and are using valuable oxygen.

The issue is education and failing school boards. Keep your eye on the ball.

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Two rules of good governance:

Rule No. 1) It is never a good idea to let unelected people sit in judgment of and even remove officials who have been put into public office by the vote of the people. The practice contradicts the entire concept of self-government and undermines accountability. If voters elect bad officials, they ought to live with the consequences of doing so.

Rule No. 2) In case of a true emergency, Rule No. 1 can and must be broken.
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That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness. Prudence, indeed, will dictate that”
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Is it the right of the people or……………….some other government hack?

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Morality?
Finally some relief for the family of the young girl murdered by Andrew Cook – and the world won’t shed a tear for his passing – rest in HELL Andrew Cook.
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Revenge is sweet.

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I don’t think ANY school boards should EVER have the power to levy taxes on property. School fundings should be exclusive to the state as mandated by the state constitution. If the state needs revenue, they can have a (more) progressive income tax and/or a mixture corporate/business taxes.

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Peadawg, you definitely have the victim shtick down pat.

71’s dripping bigotry and racism is widely known and documented on this forum.

You and straitroad can apologize for him if you choose, but I will expose this disgusting crap for what it is sheer racial animus fed by southern ignorance and bigotry.

And note that the FUN troll never justifies his own post. Nor any of his comrades here like straitroad. Like their hooded forebears they hide from the light of day.

But in the spirit of the great Kansas abolitionists, I won’t let them hide out on this forum.

Feel the fire, racists.

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GT – Just counting governors, senators, congressman and the POTUS and VP, most of the elected officials in this country are still Reps, so quit drinking and regurgitating the Bookman koolaid regarding the eminent demise of the Republican party. The Dems picked up a few seats last election, getting back some, but not all of the seats they lost the previous election. BFD.
BTW, when King Roy Barnes, the self-proclaimed education governor, was in charge, Georgia went from 49th in SAT scores to 50th!

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Is it the right of the people or……………….some other government hack?

It’s the right of the people, unfortunately changing the school board system means depriving lots of politicians at the local level. That’s an uphill battle, and since kids can’t vote we shouldn’t make them suffer for an effed-up system designed in the days of yore.

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0311 10:02

How so?

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The majority of so called “liberals” aka socialists aren’t as edumacated as you may think.

Do you still “think” that Senator Obama voted for invading Iraq in 2002?

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

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Was the school board edumacated by the Atlanta edumacation system? That would explain a lot of things.

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Who’s Obama golfing with today while Rome burns?

George Bush says, “What” “Now, watch this drive.”

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Even if it is 90% of their own money, why should they be “offended”?

I never said they should be offended, I merely pointed out that your percentages were terribly wrong

If they want it done exactly as they want it, no one is stopping them from footing they entire bill, are they?

No…the city doesn’t want them to move to burbs where AB could easily find a more affordable site that is easier to self finance…If you have issues with this take it up with Kasim Reed

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Morality? – “The majority of so called “liberals” aka socialists aren’t as edumacated as you may think.”

This from the guy who thought Obama voted for war in Iraq and Afghanistan. How’s your “edumacation” today Morality?

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Guess you missed it – the Atlanta political mafia is demanding that the Falcons “contribute’ to the rebuilding and removal of the slum area in and around the stadium for several blocks (several million dollars aka Katrina). Let me decipher that for you – they want to give handouts to the pimps and drug lords in the “local” community.

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The white wing will say whine that I use the word racist too cavalierly.

Read FUN’s words once again:

That’s why we have LOST most of OUR RIGHTS in this country. We won’t stand up for ourselves!

It’s not a crime YET… but getting very close!

These words could have come right smack out a Klan meeting, yes?

And let’s take a good close look at the man that he applauded this morning.

“Fifty years ago we would have you upside down with a f&cking fork up your ass!”…

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BoLPLsQbdt0

Call it humor, FUN GUY.

i call it out for the depravity it is.

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what a dummy, “BTW, when King Roy Barnes, the self-proclaimed education governor, was in charge, Georgia went from 49th in SAT scores to 50th!”

a guy comes in and implements plans likely starting 1 year after elected and then serves 3 more years and some fools on this page expect immediate results. the stupidity is astounding. americashrugged, what a dolt.

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Redneck Convert
Kamchak can’t even decide where he wants to live,
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You should be more sympathetic to Kamchak.
Going to the North Carolina mountains is like
going from hell to upper hell.

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Do you still “think” that Senator Obama voted for invading Iraq in 2002?

Kam, I too noticed that ignorant nonsense the other day.

Accurate information is not really that guy’s forte.

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“can find racists in any group and organization. One does not make all,”

Quite right…but if you STAY involved in a group that pursues policies that have the effect of being racist…then, like it or not, you ARE “tarred with the same brush”

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Although it may be fun and easy to say that all GOP is racists…

What is even funnier to me, is that YOU are the ONLY person saying it.

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Obama voted to financially support every thing that ever came before him if it had to do with expanding the role of the Fed gub’ment.. He was listed as the 2nd most liberal member of Congress based on his VOTING record – not his flip flops. Second only to Bernie Sanders the only ADMITTED Socialist in Congress. So YES – Obama has supported every war that was/is going on since the time he was in Congress – he voted YES.

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It is really funny how liberals like Jam Vet and Aquagirl throw names around and accuse someone of “dripping bigotry and racism” but don’t refute the allegations with anything but cutsie bigot comments designed to kill the messenger. When something is so obvious as to ignore it would be akin to ignorance, it tells you a lot about the ones that defend this kind of behavior.

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Headline: “Ga. Executes Man Who Killed College Students”

Justice has been served.

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Morality? – “Obama has supported every war that was/is going on since the time he was in Congress – he voted YES.”

Anyone else want to help Morality? pull his head out of his a$$?

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Lets see…..

APS = Dysfunctional mess of failure

Clayton County = Dysfunctional mess of failure and loses accreditation

DeKalb County = Dysfunctional mess in danger of losing accreditation

All controlled by Democrats….

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FUN GUY @ 8:58
And everybody else agreeing with that bullsh*t…

Why are you hating on the free market? Why talk about organizations that your ancestors and forefathers help put into play? When your racist and bigoted forefathers decided that Blacks couldn’t mingle with Whites, did y’all expect us to simply go hide in a cage?

Look at the history of this country. Most everything that Fun Guy is hating was started by Whites who actually gave a damn about Blacks, Hispanics, and others. If you don’t want Black History Month, then publish the ENTIRE history of this country and include ALL history. Black History in this country isn’t one paragraph on Rosa Parks and MLK Jr. If you don’t want a Hispanic or Black Chamber of Commerce, then quit trying to keep them from achieving the same as White business owners.

If Whites actually gave a damn about anybody other than themselves, there would be no BET, HBCU, LaRaza, or any other ethnic groups as we’d all be simply Americans. When you gate yourselves into communities instead of mingling with the “others”, you set yourself up for this sh*t.

Don’t blame us for your f**ked up actions. Blame yourself for once. Study history if you don’t believe me. Look up the Black Wall Street otherwise known as the Greenwood section of Tulsa, Oklahoma. Everytime we tried to get our own sh*t, your ancestors burned that sh*t down and lynched people who were trying to get ahead. It’s time out for blaming others for your sh*t. Why don’t you pull yourself up by your bootstraps, study your own damn history, and own up to your mistakes for once. White ain’t always right.

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he voted YES.

Even though he wasn’t sworn in as a Senator until 2005?

How then could he have voted in 2002?

Mr. Peabody’s WABAC machine?

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…what makes progressives so repulsive to the everyday person.

No, just the everyday reactionary and nitwit.

Progressives have made this nation infinitely better and stronger.

Would you like even a very partial list of the names?

Of course, you wouldn’t. It would blow you nonsense out of the water.

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0311

“Because the school board is mostly or all African-American.

You just can do that !

Geez !”

Where in the article does Jay note the ethnicity of the board members?

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B C _ I am still here – just reading your “comments” – you can be about as funny as a crocheted rubber when you put effort in to it.

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“This bro is still chuckling over that jive.
What is it about this topic that brings the goobers out of the woodwork?”

I know – it is about education and many show the lack thereof!

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Side question: Is this our last day of going “commando” on the JB blog?

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Morality? – “B C _ I am still here – just reading your “comments” – you can be about as funny as a crocheted rubber when you put effort in to it.”

Not here to amuse you Chief, just here to point out your errors.

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Sounds just like the current administration in Washington,D.C. Congress is in the same boat too. Broke in more ways than one. PITIFUL!!!

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Is this our last day of going “commando” on the JB blog?

“You want to know what comes between me and my Calvins? Nothing.”
– Thomas “Brooke Shields” Jefferson

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JV – No you don’t! There are PLENTY of racists on the left and right. Perhaps your definition of racist is a bit BIASED. Kind of like when Jessie said that only “whites” can be racist. Uh huh.

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Brocephus @10:56: Get back to the back of the bus and hush.

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Just a correction. I deny any association with any thought or action that can be construed as being thoughtless unless such thought or action becomes accepted by any majority when polled for their opinion unless such polls change over time at which all my preceeding comments are automatically modified to appease a majority unless such a majority changes stances whereas all thoughts and action are modified to a more correct postion.

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0311

Two points developed here. Hope you can keep track.

First: “A lot of libs. try to label anyone who challenges Obama’s inane policies as being “racist” simply because he is a “black” president.

Therefore, concerning the Dekalb School Board ”

I’m sure some do. There is always someone who will do anything. But is the reaction against those who challenge Obama’s policies, or is it because they’re challenging something else?

Like this?

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-8mZ_Z353z2Y/T9-eMRnswrI/AAAAAAAAABk/bCbHP7ItEgE/s1600/monkeyspend.jpg

or this?

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-pxpAAOxRUzA/T9-mSSdjXiI/AAAAAAAAABw/MM0qx_jTtQ8/s1600/teabagger_racist_signs.jpg

I’d say a lot of people on the farfarright make the racist remarks then act innocent and say ‘but… I was only talking about his policies…”

And the second point:

Where in the article does Jay inform a reader not familiar with the Board the racial makeup of the board?

I think you’ve tried to do another of your famous 0311 gotcha’s and just ended up sounding like… you usually do.

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There, I can now run for public office.

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“Where in the article does Jay note the ethnicity of the board members?”

Some of us don’t need Jay Bookman to tell us what’s going on in the world outside of this blog. Some of us pay attention to the news from lots of sources and know the ethnicity of the school board without that information being spoon fed to us by Bookman.

Pull your head out occasionally and pay attention to what’s going on around you.

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The “ethnic” makeup of the Board is irrelevant……. what is relevant is their connection to the Atlanta political mafia and who scratches who’s back.

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http://www.dekalb.k12.ga.us/

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Perhaps your definition of racist is a bit BIASED.

No. I think not.

But after four hundred years of murder, torture and brutality, I can understand but do not condone black racism militarism in this country.

What I DO NOT understand is why there is SILL a significant number of white wingers who are STILL so rabidly racist and bigoted.

Hoiw many more decades will it take?

It does not matter we progressives and nosy northern Jewish liberals are on a sixty year winning streak and we are not about to let the so-called conservatives in this country have their way with minorities. Ever again.

Hate Abraham Lincoln as you will. But he is on that list that Morality wants no part of…

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Way of life in the Atlanta political mafia – contracts go to those that are related and those that “support” the Atlanta political mafia.

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The “ethnic” makeup of the Board is irrelevant……. what is relevant is their connection to the Atlanta political mafia and who scratches who’s back.

So, Nathan Deal can get Chip Rogers hooked up without nary a mention of race and/or political mafia type dealings, but let someone Black sneeze wrong, and the bigots come down from the trees. Why is it a problem now with political mafias? Is it because other races have watched and learned how some Whites actually “worked hard” to get ahead in this country and are duplicating that “hard work” down to the letter?

*shaking my damned head at this crap

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Here is something that everyone can use to determine how school systems in the state are ranked.

http://www.neighborhoodscout.com/ga/schools/

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Way of life in the Atlanta Gwinnett political mafia – contracts go to those that are related and those that “support” the Atlanta Gwinnett political mafia.

There silly, I fixed that for you.

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So how do you get into the Political Mafia, do you have to run a crew and become “made”. Can you just send in an application with box tops from your favorite cereal.

If I join the mafia can I get a contract.

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In closing……………….our present Obamanation/Washington .trickle-UP wealth doesn’t work for the people.
Neither does …………….trickle-DOWN authority.
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Wealth and authority belongs to the people.
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Put THAT through your Free Obama Hopium pipe…………….and smoke it.

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Fred

I’m gonna have to get out with you guys as soon as the lil one gets on a regular schedule. It’s not right to leave mommy to fend for herself right now, even for just a few hours. Somebody might call me a “deadbeat negro daddy” or something.

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Dekalb needs some diversity in it’s string of superintendents.

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RB from Gwinnett

““Where in the article does Jay note the ethnicity of the board members?”

“Some of us don’t need Jay Bookman to tell us what’s going on in the world outside of this blog. Some of us pay attention to the news from lots of sources and know the ethnicity of the school board without that information being spoon fed to us by Bookman. ”

I am regularly awed by your awareness of the most mundane events that extend beyond the borders of Georgia.

So tell me, RB from Gwinnett, as you don’t need to be spoon-fed anything because you keep up with things in the world outside this blog, please tell me (responding in about a minute, in case you’ve figured out how to use The Google) what is the racial makeup of the board overseeing Brady, Texas. hmmmmm?

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“GOP obstructs Obama because he’s black”

http://www.lvrj.com/opinion/gop-obstructs-obama-because-he-s-black-132224538.html

Well, there you go !

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_________ government leaders have forfeited right to office.

_________ CEOs have forfeited rights to egregious compensation and rights to office.

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I refuse to let it fester in this country into my daughter’s generation without a fight.

Just in case someone missed it the first time Bro.

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@HDB The Ptolemeic pharoahs were of Greek descent. Cleopatra is a Greek name. I would pick a different example…

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Indigo, I TRIED to read the actual studies from Tenn and other states as after reading the Noise and the Signal I am very cynical about data, they are very difficult to read (for me) .There is even a meta-analysis which , in my field< brings into mind a whole lot of contoversial thoughts on study interpretation. Anyway, I hope that you can make heads/tails of the morass, I cannot…

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HDB – 10:13

That is not correct.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ancient_Egyptian_race_controversy

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Paul@10:58

So local politics has become a “Jeopardy” category? Wow! Who would have guessed? My slightly autistic son can quote a LOT of “Jeopardy” questions and answers. I’ll have to ask him if Texas politics, or the racial makeup of ANYTHING, has shown up in a category or question.

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In all honesty, I have no clue what color the skin of my elected school board member is. I THINK the guy I booted was white. All I know is there were 2 names on the ballot and I voted for the one that didn’t have (I) behind it. Dang, i may have even voted for a WOMAN.Or worse, a BLACK WOMAN. The horror. How will I face myself?

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Can we be done with stupid yet? or do we need more time in the idiot chamber..

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southpaw

You might want to reread RB from Gwinnett’s response to my asking 0311 (in response to his assertion Jay’s piece is racist by normal liberal standards) where Jay mentioned the racial makeup of the board. RB’s position was everyone who isn’t spoonfed by Jay and keeps up with things outside their little world knows such things. As I’m not a Georgian, I simply used his reasoning to ask him about the goings-on in my back yard.

But keep asking your son. Sounds like you might learn something about reasoning!

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“Peadawg, you definitely have the victim shtick down pat.”

No victim. Just laughing at you and feeling bad for you. Bless your heart.

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Numbers is pip.

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Most Libs just vote for whoever has a DEM beside their name without regard to anything else including INTELLIGENCE and that also goes for a lot of Repubs. Time to actually KNOW who you are voting for – if you have time to put down your Nintendo.

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DeKalb school board members caught napping during meeting?”

Probably their highest and best use. At least they can’t inflict damage while napping.

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ATL Born and Raised
February 22nd, 2013
10:59 am

You need to look further than just the Greeks……although a Greek NAME, Cleopatra came from EGYPT……therefore, more associated with those of (as Margaret Meade stated) “Negroid descent”…..

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B C – Certainly you know that the U S A gives Israel somewhere around three billion annually? Obama. being Prez, has to sign off on that. That’s all I was saying.

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wow, this topic turned unsavory…
but i just don’t hate on white people any more.
my yardman’s white.
my pool boy is white
hell, some of my best friends….

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Bro, “Did I say school board? I simply said Gwinnett County.”

Oh, so if the conversation is about the school boards in those counties and it suits your purpose to toss out irrelevant drivel instead of defending the obvious problems with those 3 school systems, we’re supposed to just go with it or what? Should we bring up all the people in those 3 areas who’ve been indicted, sherriffs putting out hits on each other, county CEO’s having charges filed against them, county sherriffs being re-elected even though they still have charges pending? Do you REALLY want to go there?

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Shhhhhh……K71 already gave him two thumbs up.

Don’t forget about the rest of the amen choir and golf claps…

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You do have to admit that it’s odd that not a single white person has been considered for the Superintendent job in APS OR Dekalb…………

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Fred – Don’t think it’s odd at all. There is another name for it.

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RB

Save the drama for your mama. I simply posted about Gwinnett Co. as a reminder to you that, while you are pointing your index finger at others, there are three other fingers pointing back at you.

If you wanna bring up all that stuff, go ahead until you’re blue in the face. I don’t give a flying rat’s ass. Seems that some of y’all only feel good about yourselves by pointing out the shortcomings of others. That says more about your self esteem than anything else. I really feel bad for y’all as you’re probably really good people deep down inside. It’s a shame that you hate yourself so much.

Why don’t you talk about Henry County too, while you’re at it? That’s where I live and my concerns lie. I don’t live in Gwinnett, Fulton, Clayton, or Dekalb. That’s why you don’t hear me rail about any of them. I didn’t elect them, and I can’t remove them from office. If you’re really that concerned about those communities, why don’t you move there and leave crime infested Gwinnett?

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Kam – Starting pitcher for the Braves? Won’t it interfere with your position as striker with the Blues?

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No news here- incompetent boneheads doing their thang. Surprising thing is Jay peeking out from the liberal pocket he’s in to shine a tiny bit of the light of truth.

Why doesn’t Obama get “credit” for the ridiculously high gasoline prices. Huh, Jay?

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Oscar: A gold Star of David to take home to mommy.

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I know a lot of white bigots, and a lot of black ones. And a lot of people of both sides wah are not bigots.

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As far as you know, Obama voted to invade Iraq.

That one’s gonna leave a mark.

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JV – Obama voted to financially support the ongoing “conflicts” in Iraq and Afghanistan – same as voting for the war to me.

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Kam: You should met us yesterday. They had soccer on right next to the races. And you wouldn’t BELIEVE the hottie that was trying to pick up TBS at the restaurant.

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For people with an iota of shame it would, Aquagirl. But for him I very much doubt it. He seems very content, even smug with his vast ignorance and endless plausible but misleading, fallacious arguments.

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Morality? – “Obama voted to financially support the ongoing “conflicts” in Iraq and Afghanistan – same as voting for the war to me.”

Really? Because yesterday you emphatically implied that Obama voted to INVADE Iraq. Totally different context buddy.

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…same as voting for the war to me.

Need I say more?

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Looks like these assclowns are giving the assclowns that ran the Clayton county school board a run for their money when it comes to incompetence and malfeasance. And then there’s the APS system. What a mess.

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It’s up to Congress to decide if the president should be removed by rule number two. Don’t think they will do that.

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JamVet @ 11:35

Somebody’s been reading the thesaurus lately, huh?

You know y’all corn-fed MidWesterners don’t talk like that.

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Kam – City by far……………… I’d rather listen to KY71 all day than cheer for Man City. Will cheer for Chelsea tomorrow! And would be good to meet you guys in the FA Cup. Give us a little more reason to cheer!

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If you voted to financially support something you must be in favor of it? Or you got “favors” to go along with it. Bush wanted support for the war and the Dems wanted expansion of the gub’ment SOCIAL socialist programs. They “compromised” aka sold the USA down the river.

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M – words have always been redifined. That’s why dictionaries have to be updated.

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In the middle in the case of the Republicans all fits well, like in all white, male. You are like a religion not a government of the people for the people.

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It finally happened!!! Jay & I agree on something. Miracles do happen.

Great column Jay!

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Whatchu talkin’ about, Willis? LOL! (But yeah, I do love dictionaries and thesauri!)

And look at what states are numbers 12 and 15 on that list I provided earlier!

And one of my very favorite lists:

The top 10 schools in total Academic All-America® honorees

University of Nebraska 294
Notre Dame 222
MIT 181
Penn State 173
Stanford 165
Augustana (Ill.) 136
Emory University 124
Bucknell University 122
Texas 121
Nebraska Wesleyan 118

Sure, we had to bail hay and get the harvest in and crush teams on the gridiron. But only after we kicked ass in the classroom too!

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Seriously folks:
Here is an idea. Education is NOT a partisan issue. Period. This isnt about being a Dem or a Rep….”

But isn’t it the case that education is one of those areas where there persists a perverse sort of agreement between the two parties, where the two parties happen to be in almost perfect lock step? Namely, both parties are in perfect alignment on the neoliberal corporatization/privatization of the nation’s entire educational system.

And the paradox is that when the two parties are in such close agreement on an issue, that’s when you really have to look out, as there is no incentive for the parties to go before the people and compete against each other.

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Here’s some better information on gas prices, Jackie:

Price now $3.79 at the local Kroger, and rising.

O’bozo is winning his war on fossil fuels…

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I truly think all Republicans have some bigotry in their thinking. As the minority lynching you condoned in your presidential debates. For some reason your side thinks just because you are white you can own the facts. That show you put on in South Carolina and in Fla. was a disgrace of ignorance and now you want to have it all forgotten. Ha.

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“O’bozo is winning his war on fossil fuels…”

Hey Sinkwich! I remember when you wrote the very same thing when gas prices experienced that steep decline!

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Morality?

February 22nd, 2013
11:43 am

I wasn’t here yesterday – must have been in your nightmare.
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So my question is this. Is he really so stupid that he doesn’t remember posting here yesterday? Or was he so drunk it didn’t register? Or does he think WE are so stupid that we’ll say, Oh you weren’t? Or is he just such a habitual and compulsive liar that he just tells lies everytime he writes something? What do you folks think. As for yesterday?

Morality?

February 21st, 2013
2:33 pm

Are you talking about the unfunded wars that Obama voted for?

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Morality?
February 22nd, 2013
11:43 am

I wasn’t here yesterday – must have been in your nightmare.

Really?

Morality?
February 21st, 2013
2:33 pm

Are you talking about the unfunded wars that Obama voted for?

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Obama doesn’t control gas prices – “W” didn’t control gas prices – Arabs control gas prices. Two exceptions to this rule : #1 gas taxes and #2 Regulations.

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O’bozo is winning his war on fossil fuels . . .

Well, I got to agree with Sinkus here, much as I hate to. I think we got a right to mercury and a little benzene in the air and water if we want it. Like I said many times before you can’t even throw your used motor oil down the sewer drain these days without somebody wanting to put you in jail or fine you big-time. Besides, when it comes to coal and oil, I want it cheap, even if it kills a few folks.

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Matthew Stafford could fix Dekalb County Schools in 10 minutes with a pitchfork and some Silly Putty. Then he would take all of the new school board members to Amici’s in Athens for some wings and garcheemar, which will be delicious…life changing even.

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Fred – “So my question is this. Is he really so stupid that he doesn’t remember posting here yesterday? Or was he so drunk it didn’t register? Or does he think WE are so stupid that we’ll say, Oh you weren’t? Or is he just such a habitual and compulsive liar that he just tells lies everytime he writes something? What do you folks think. As for yesterday?”

Apparently it’s all of the above. However, when you live in an alternate reality such as our friend Morality?, I can understand how the passage of time in his world may not gel with those of us here on Terra Firma.

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Fred ™
February 22nd, 2013
11:51 am

That wasn’t him. That was OBVIOUSLY a namejacker.

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Off topic, but have a question:

Jay is there an email address you can post so we can write to the powers that be that the new blog software sucks BIG TIME.
Once your column switches over, I gotta tell you I am gonna be far less inclined to read and post.
Galloway’s post rate is WAY down and I think yours will suffer too.

If enough folks complain, maybe this goofy decision gets reversed.

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Another slow news day but we have our cons to laugh at.

Thank you for staying the course cons.

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Morality? ” time for TERM LIMITS in Congress and a Balanced Budget Amendment to the Constitution”

As has already been said here umpteen times, a balanced budget amendment — which already has come within a hair of passing, two decades ago — would simply be a disastrous move for the nation, a fiscal straightjacket that would have terrible destabilizing effects both economically and socially, but would also be based on an outright lie: the notion that getting the nation’s budgets in order is the same as a household at the kitchen table getting its checkbooks in order.

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In the middle you have a party that looks like someone’s family album. You bring the maids and hired help into the picture to spice things up but you and your party have filtered all control of you party to white males. Now who in their right minds, another problem your party has, would think if it looks like a white guy and acts like a white guy and quacks like a white guy there is not a white guy’s party.

What overwhelms me is your defense of your position in public and I am sure you side comments to your other GOP friends in private. You lie including to yourselves, your comments here would lead me to believe you do. That is what makes you people so crazy, you have this closet agenda and then you have this public denial or public agenda you try to structure to cover your immoral thinking. Like a man having an affair and can’t keep his lies straight until it finally drives him crazy. Sound familiar?

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@Thomas Heyward

You don’t seem to pay much attention to world affairs.
We have a national security interest int he Middle East and Northern Africa, therefore, we have to deploy our diplomats and military personnel to areas that are causing turmoil in the region.
Having knowledge of how things are done proactively would suggest news reports of events occurring anywhere in the world is “old news” to our government.
The major problem we are having is not the response but the size of the party and action taken, based on the availability of money needed to carry out critical missions.

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Looks like Morality? has slipped through the wormhole to the Delta quadrent.

More like he passed out after he ate the worm at the bottom of the bottle.

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Look before I leap…

February 22nd, 2013
12:02 pm

Off topic, but have a question:

Jay is there an email address you can post so we can write to the powers that be that the new blog software sucks BIG TIME.
Once your column switches over, I gotta tell you I am gonna be far less inclined to read and post.
Galloway’s post rate is WAY down and I think yours will suffer too.

If enough folks complain, maybe this goofy decision gets reversed.
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Give it up Leap………….Your concerns fall upon State approved Deaf ears.
In the state-sponsored Media………………
A)…………one may critizie the State-approved Republican party.
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B)………….One may critisize the State-approved Democrat party.
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C)………….And the State welcomes State-approved class and/or ethnic divisions critizisms.
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But…………..D) One may NOT critisize the State.
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Welcome to the USSA.

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“Agreed. I’ll still read but won’t make an account to post comments.”

It’s not the account – I already have one.
Its the look of the damned thing – hard to read. I know white space is a cardinal no-no when it comes to mobile devices, but other blog sites have mobile enabled versions that don’t affect the main site’s appearance and functionality.

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@ “in the middle”, system 1 vs. system 2, you would enjoy reading Daniel Kahneman.

2 jam, I agree with you that there is a lack of intellectual curiosity on the right , but your sweeping stereotypes suggests a lack of curiosity on the left , also. Since the Jewish distaste for the right is not absolute(30% voted for Romney in 2012),what do you suggest is the reason why these jews voted for the GOP candidate? It’s too easy to generalize with a basically split country, you would have to denigrate 1/2 the country……by the way Emory may have had only 120 academic all americans, we are undeafeted in football and we only have had 120 “athletes”…..

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There are black members of that school board…and thusly, Jay Bookman is a racist! (See how it feels to be on the receiving end of a standard liberal default argument? LOL!)

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Ever want to wonder if racism is alive today in the South? Just read these types of forums.

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I guess I should change my screen name while I still can…

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“What overwhelms me is your defense of your position in public and I am sure you side comments to your other GOP friends in private. You lie including to yourselves, your comments here would lead me to believe you do. That is what makes you people so crazy, you have this closet agenda and then you have this public denial or public agenda you try to structure to cover your immoral thinking. Like a man having an affair and can’t keep his lies straight until it finally drives him crazy. Sound familiar?”

BINGO

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Hiya Sinkwich!

You know one of those principles of how to do thing, right? Follow-up? Closing open items? That kind of stuff?

You kinda hadda leave before you could answer. So in the finest spirit of finishing one topic before going on to another, remember this?

“Sinkwich, as you said you’re fine with corporations who have profits of billions of dollars paying zero tax because they’re following the tax law and should not pay one bit more than required. are you also fine with ‘the 47%” who pay no federal income taxes because they, too, are following the tax law and should not pay one bit more than required?”

I hope you’re gonna be here a while, ’cause I’m really interested in hearing your consistency in views regarding corporations earning billions paying no federal income tax and getting subsidies on top of that and people and families earning, say, $20k or $25k or $30k a year paying no federal income tax and getting subsidies on top of that, too!

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KammieSpam. All rights reserved.

Awwwwwww witchie-poo, aren’t you just so — special.

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Dekalb’s School Board should be on “Saturday Nite Live”.

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“What event/action will force crude oil prices to fall?”

An administration that gave a sh*t would be a good start.

A leader who actually wanted to solve the problem would establish domestic energy exploration and extraction as a national priority.

Thanks for asking.

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Look before I leap…

February 22nd, 2013
12:19 pm

@Thomas H, Jr

I don’t know what you are smokin’, but you really need to share.

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I only meant o explain that the new requirments to post are only……………..Progressive State-Sponsored censorship.
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The poor miserable souls on the wrong side for the fight for freedom………………can not handle the truth, hence they rely on Authoritarian censorship.
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@sfd:
“On Tuesday, the Oklahoma Common Education committee considered HB 1674 — a House bill that would prevent teachers in science classes from penalizing students who contest evolutionary principles with untestable, faith-based claims.”

Well these folks think Baby Jesus had a pet T-Rex growing up.

Some folks just aren’t gonna be happy until Copernicus and his whacky ideas on orbital mechanics have been eradicated from the written record.

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30% voted for Romney in 2012

Actually 27% but you’re close.

I usually first look at the people who lead a movement or organization, and why I referred to Nixon. On the runup to his trip to meet the Chinese, I read that he devoured books and information about them and their country and then asked for more.

He may have been a Dick (LOL!), but he was damn smart one who valued information.

And at the polar opposite of the scale? GWB, who it seems could not even get interested enough to learn the heads of states of MAJOR countries around the world in his 2000 campaign.

And go Emory!

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A politician that VOTES YES to financially support a “conflict’ is supporting that conflict. Get that through your neanderthal brain.

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Get that through your neanderthal brain.

Aw, someone have a boo-boo that only mommy can kiss and make better?

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2 Jam, you didn’t answer the question, my source says nationally 30% (compromise 27-30%), but the question stands, why? did 27-305 OF JEWS VOTE FOR rOMNEY IF ,AS YOU SAY, THE gop IS DEVOID OF INTELLECTUAL CURIOSITY WHICH IS ANETHEM(sp?) TO JEWS, no reason for capitals, my fault.

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you “African-Americans

I keep trying to trade indigo to the conservatives for a box of scuffed baseballs and some used jockstraps. Think maybe I’m asking too much?

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“What law would you like Obama to pass to speed up the Nationalization of drilling and exploration here in the U.S.?”

None, Butchie.

I guess either you don’t read so good (sic) or don’t understand the process of leasing or more likely both.

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stands

While talking about “you white people”.

The only athletic supporter on these pages is you.

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Even though there is no credible evidence for this, you cling to psudeo-science to make this riduculous claim.

Followed a citation of a wiki talk page. Now there’s some good edumacashion.

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Morality? – ” Get that through your neanderthal brain.”

Oh no, Morality? has time warped into the past and thinks that he’s in a pre-historic world. Maybe this is where he was yesterday when he “wasn’t” here.

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HAVE A SAFE AND FUN WEEKEND :p

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It was a “compromise” (sell out) between “W” and the Dems. “W” got his funding and in return he “lost” his veto pen when it came to the expansion of the Fed gub’ment SOCIALIST social programs and when it cam to the expansion of the Fed Debt – which is why the Dems voted YES.

Anyone else thinking that this is the sort of social studies essay-question answer a Special Ed teacher gets to grade?

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…if so, we clearly ain’t payin’ them enough.

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Poor cons. They even need the president to lower gas prices for them. They cannot do anything on their own. Pitiful.

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Are there any SONS OF CONFEDERATE VETERANS! on any school board?

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preach, Mo-rality! Tell us how de po’, po’ ol’ white man beez opressed by dem coloreds.

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Brosephus™
February 22nd, 2013
12:46 pm

Like I said before: we can try and teach ‘em….but they don’t want to learn……………

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There is hope.
Dekalb county school boards WILL be a thing of the past.
Decent people only have to educate progressives/statists.
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It’s really not hard to do…in that……the majority of Decent people(worldwide) only want peace, love,,,,,,,,,,,,and to be LEFT the Eff alone…….from an increasingly instrusive and violent progressive government.

Dr. Ron Paul’s latest book, NEW SCHOOL MANIFESTO, will delve deeply into one of the most important issues facing us today: the state of education in America. The vast majority of Americans agree that our education system is broken and that action needs to be taken. This book will be a focused guide to Dr. Paul’s position, which centers on a strong support for home schooling and free market principles applied to education. He makes the case for individual freedoms as they pertain to educating our children, and nimbly dissects the most pressing issues that need to be addressed from the libertarian point of view. Ron will also quickly discuss the history of education in this country, along with what has gone wrong, and how we can think about the facts differently. His devoted followers have been waiting for a book on this topic, as nobody yet has really captured education from a Libertarian perspective.
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Put the violence of the State behind thee.
watch your children grow without war and debt.
Free your mind.

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It was a “compromise” (sell out) between “W” and the Dems.

Holy crap on a cracker!

Dude/dudette:

http://zapatopi.net/afdb/

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12:45 Facts are facts -sorry you don’t like reality and won’t admit the Dems sold out their principles (if they ever had any) in return for “W” going along with the expansion of the SOCIALIST social programs. The TRUTH is that everyone has their PRICE – especially the corrupt at the trough of D. C.

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HDB

So, you are proud of your Black ancestry.

Then, I have a right to be proud of my White ancestry.

And, Asians have a right to be proud of their Asian ancestry.

And, bi-racial people have a right to be proud of their bi-racial ancestry.

And, multi-racial people have a right to be proud of their multi-racial history.

So, we have a world where EVERY SINGLE HUMAN goes around being proud of their racial ancestry.

Does that honestly make any sense to you?

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http://suite101.com/article/human-genetics-lab–eye-color-genes-dimples-earlobe-traits-a284666

Eye Color Genetics

The alleles for eye color are “E” and “e.” Brown eyes are a dominant trait, while blue is considered recessive, therefore:
•Brown eyes genotypes – EE or Ee;
•Blue eyes genotype – ee.

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http://www.blinn.edu/socialscience/LDThomas/Feldman/Handouts/0203hand.htm

Characteristics in the left-hand column dominate over those characteristics listed in the right-hand column.

eye coloring…. brown eyes…. grey, green, hazel, blue eyes

And so on…

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Time for a 3rd Party that will value the FISCAL future of the USA over PARTY loyalty to the left or to the right. Time for TERM LIMITS to rid ourselves of the gutless unwilling to vote for the survival of the FISCAL future of the USA. Time for a Balanced Budget Amendment to the Constitution to slow down this destruction of the FISCAL future of the USA. If you keep voting these gutless PARTY LOYALISTS BACK IN CONGRESS you are gutless.

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Even if the Governor and the Courts remove the board
the people may elect worse.

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Here F. Sinkwich take a lesson:

How the leases work: The oil industry routinely leases blocks of land from the federal government to explore for oil and gas. The leases typically last for 5 to 10 years and cost anywhere from $75,000 to $2 million to get. Then the companies have to pay an additional fee each year for the duration of the lease.

If oil is found, the company get’s to keep the lease for the life of the well, which could be 40 years. They would also have to pay the government a royalty on the production, usually ranging from 12% to 18%. If no oil is found, the land reverts to the government.

Markey and other lawmakers say the industry is purposefully idling production so they can book the oil and gas reserves on their balance sheet as an asset — a move that might drive up their stock price.

Critics also say they might be saving the oil for a future date, when prices might be higher.

The Interior Department, which supports efforts to put more of these leases into production, says over half the nation’s 20 billion barrels of recoverable oil reserves lie untapped in the Gulf of Mexico.

To prod the industry into more rapidly exploring and drilling on these acres, the administration and members of Congress have proposed shortening the period for which leases are awarded — a so-called “use it or lose it” provision.

They have also proposed increasing the amount of money companies have to pay each year for their leases, which can range from $40,000 to $200,000.

Drilling for oil isn’t so simple: But the oil industry and independent experts say it’s ridiculous to believe that companies wouldn’t be trying to produce all they can from the land they have leased if it made financial sense.

The huge amount of untapped land being leased is accurate, said Erik Milito, director of exploration and production at the American Petroleum Institute. But to just look at that number and say the industry is sitting on its hands is too simplistic, “it doesn’t explain the oil and gas businesses at all.”

One reason the industry isn’t producing on these lands, said Milito, is because there’s simply no oil there. Only 25 to 30% of the acres the industry leases offshore ends up having large enough oil deposits to bring into production, he said.

Another reason is the time it takes to go from bidding on a lease to producing oil. It can take seven, eight, nine years to do the seismic work, line up the contractors, conduct the exploratory drilling, and then build the infrastructure needed to bring the oil and gas market, he said.

“Companies are in the businesses of developing oil and gas resources, not buying leases,” said Milito. “You’re not going to make any money if you’re sitting on it.”

Guy Caruso, former head to the government’s Energy Information Administration who’s now at the Center For Strategic and International Studies, agreed.

Caruso also cited the long lead time needed to develop an oil lease and the fact that firms want to recoup any money they put into exploration relatively quickly.

Accusations that oil companies aren’t drilling in order to book the oil reserves also seem simplistic. An exploration well would be needed for the firm to book the discovery on its balance sheet.

Plus, he said oil at $100 a barrel is a huge incentive for companies to produce oil now. The price in the future, he noted, is anyone’s guess.

“This is good politics,” said Caruso, “but it’s not the way the business works.”

By forcing the industry to produce on its idle leases, lawmakers hope to raise domestic oil production, which would tend to increase U.S. jobs and add to federal tax rolls without having to open up additional lands for drilling.

Some hope it would also lower gas prices. But it’s questionable if forcing production would have the desired effect.

“Diligent development policies are unlikely to encourage money-losing production today,” said Kevin Book, a managing director at ClearView Energy Partners, a research outfit. “If producing were economic, investor-owned oil companies would be doing it.”

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Here’s indigo’s mo’-definitely scientifical analysis he’s citing on the burning “Wuz them Egyptians Darkies?” question:

The ancient Egyptians also wrote about Blacks as a foreign people who were often used as slaves. The Egyptians commented that Blacks were not very smart, but they were great athletes, entertainers and musicians. Some things never change!

yea verily, I am in awe of your googling skillz.

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@Jam, in a previous post, many days ago, I wondered if the heavy dem vote reflected a respect for the Truman’s position on the creation of Israel, as I remember you disregarded that opinion without any relection. Since that time I have tried to undrstand the question. I , currently think it has to do more with teh historical perception of the JEWS being and “uncerclass” peoples (money lenders etc) and their connection with others of theis perception (blacks, gays, other minority groups in general). There is NO doubt that the jewish religion puts great emphasis on education, family (although recently the divorce reate has significantly increasedd), and material goods. I think that jews despise the GOP for their perception that the GOP disparages all minorities (of which they are one). I think it has less to do with intellectual. ;there are many intellectual bigots. It is their bigotry that offends the jew, not the intellect level..

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Obama’s not like you! Obama is a member of the despised 1%. Obama has 4 mansions in 4 different states serviced by gardeners and house servants. Obama’s not like you.

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serviced by gardeners

heh, heh, heh. Freudian slip much?

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Morality? – “Obama has 4 mansions in 4 different states serviced by gardeners and house servants.”

He has one house in Chicago. Seriously, do you ever think before you post?

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The DeKalb school board disgrace needs more light shown on it. Was wondering if Bookman was ever going to get around to it. Maybe he’ll even shine some light on the WIC issue.

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…… can’t even get Rush Limbaugh here in the outback.

Maybe you’re using the wrong bait.

Have you tried baiting the trap with Oxycontin or young 3rd world boys?

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Kamchak

I don’t know what’s worse, laughing at dB’s link or your 1:14 comment. I’m gonna need my own personal prayer service before too long…

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1:08 – There you go again. Unwilling to accept the fact that this Fed Debt was run up over decades when both Repubs and Dems took turns running it up. I give the Dems most of the credit for the run up because of their unceasing desire for big gub’ment unfunded or under funded SOCIALIST social programs. they also voted to fund “W”’s war in return for more big gub’ment SOCIALIST social program spending. BOTH sides and their VOTERS are guilty as charged.

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Hey Jay, a new poll from the non-partisan firm of Thingamajig, Whatchamacallit and Doohickey says that a majority of Americans think printed newspapers are as dead as the Dodo.

Thought you’d be interested in that. I know how you love polls.

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High gas prices means demand is high which means the global economy is good.

“Don’t call it a comeback.”

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“Do some research on genetics”

Bro – one small correction. It’s not a question of “how often” Causcasians produce “melanin enhanced” children. They don’t, unless one of the parents is melanin enhanced.

It’s not genetically possible for a pale, blond, blue-eyed couple to produce a child with significantly more melanin than the parents…the genes simply aren’t there.

Just to illustrate, I read, MANY years ago now, about a university lecturer who said when he gave his lecture on human genetics he would say “Two blue-eyed, blonde people cannot produce a child with brown eyes” and INVARIABLY (as he said) some lovely brown-eye beauty in the front row would say “But both MY parents have blue eyes”

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And uhhhhh….spears!

Someone mention spear-chuckers? Getcher spear-chuckers here…

(ok, I’m cheating a bit–a Trinidadian dude did take the gold in 2012, actually.)

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Jay or anyone who might know, here is a question that is off-topic although I can’t tell what the topic is after all these blogs. What happens to the social security money that you and your employer have paid into if you die before receiving it?

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Aquagirl
February 22nd, 2013
1:16 pm

You’re off the chain today, girl…….

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1:14 – Not in to boys – that would be Bonnie Frank and his roommate in the basement. Don’t need Limbaugh and don’t have time to listen to the liars on BOTH sides on the so called TV news. They all slant the news to serve their political agenda. PBS is the closest to the real news – thought they are left of center they try to be honest.

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HDB

I’m at the point where I think I need to bless my water supply… A shower in holy water might help me, that is, if it doesn’t sting too much.

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Hollywould
February 22nd, 2013
1:21 pm

That’s contingent upon your status:

1) Minor child can get Social Security survivor payment if not older than 18 (high school)…or 21 (if in college)…or up to 25 (if graduate school)

2) Surviving spouse can get survivor’s benefits

Otherwise….payments got to the federal coffers…….

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“however, you won’t find someone with all recessive traits that carry dominant genes”

Yes, it’s impossible. I have a hard times, sometimes, explaining that to dog people when it comes to dog color genetics…on which I’m something of an expert.

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Bonnie Frank and his roommate

first getting serviced in multiple states, now this. Morality is boy-crazy!

(NTTAWWT.)

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Brosephus™
February 22nd, 2013
1:26 pm

Go get communion instead……Courvosier works really well for you to get into the spirits!!

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anyway, I guess I stopped contributing anything meaningful to this here thread about as soon as I popped back in, so I’ll say so long unless/until Jay’s got something new for us.

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1:21 – “What happens to the social security money”? Nothing happens to it as it has already been spent. There is nothing in the S.S fund except IOU’s and whatever tax dollars they bring in today and goes out tomorrow. As I have said before the S.S. system is the largest PONZI scheme in history. We had the dot.com bubble, the real estate bubble and next is the health care bubble soon to be followed by the gub’ment bond bubble which will be the mother of all bubbles. At least the end won’t be boring.

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“So you don’t know, correct?”

It is the truth.

It stays in the fund and the gop tries to steal it.

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TMorality,
Before you sprain your brain, read this…

http://www.dailyfinance.com/2012/10/15/5-huge-myths-about-social-security/

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Why are people laughing at my history lesson? I spent hours learning all that stuff in a Jawja classroom. Geez.

I could have learned a lot more if the commie ACLU Jewish lawyers hadn’t taken our white Jesus off the wall, after that we only studied bongmaking and fornication.

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“I’ve read so many posts on Jay’s blogs that I can’t say with certainty that this one is the stupidest.”

I guess you don’t read what you post filky.

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“Well if the guy is near retirement age and has children under 18, then that may be the reason he keeled over before collecting a dime.”

Steve Martin’s first child was just born recently. Steve Martin is 67

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“..we only studied bongmaking and fornication.”

Do you happen to have pictures from exam week?
If so, please share.

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@Jam, as surely there are bigots and ignorant people in the far right wing, there are the same in the far left wing. You and I surely have our biases ,genetic or learned. You are shrill about it, like my father, There are surely shrill Repubs also. Neither party holds the intellectual high ground at all times and in each participant. No religion holds the “moral” high ground either (e.g. “voting with your wallet”), it would be good for all of us to remember that.

@ getalife, oil prices are on a global supply/demand curve of which the global economy is but 1 input..but commodity prices are complicated and taxes are involved (asked californians and new yorkers)etc. I googled this late last night, my son(a good kid,) thinks it’s the president’s fault….no apple tree jokes, please.

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“Steve Martin’s first child was just born recently. Steve Martin is 67″

Makes me wonder what the heck he was doing wrong all those years.

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alex,

Tell your son when w collapsed the global economy, check out the price of gas.

Then compare the global economy and the price of gas today.

Teach him about supply and demand.

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1:42 Steve Martin had a stand in…. surrogate, replacement – whatever you call it.

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Like, uh, spaghetti. Italians

I believe the Chinese beat them to it….and you characterizations of them and color are a bit off as well
There are plenty of blonde hair blue eyes in the north..black hair brown eyes in the south and both the North and the South dislike the Sicilians because they are believed by some Italians to be a mixed race

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@ Jam, just read you more recent post, be careful : the general attributes of the whole are not necessarily contained in all of it’s parts….

Perhaps, I should now accept Brook’s call….Interesting ,who stated (noted CORRECTLY)…bias?

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Bro & Dog – The most likely explanation is of course option 4, Angela was a wide receiver!

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Got’s to go feed MUCHU my pet DRAGON. All you BRAIN DEAD ZOMBIES have a NICE DAY! (smiley face patent applied for)

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Sinkwich

“I’ve read so many posts on Jay’s blogs that I can’t say with certainty that this one is the stupidest.”

I’m thinking it’s the one never answered about why it’s okay for corporations with billions in profits to obey the law and pay no tax while it’s not okay for lower-income families to obey the lay and pay no tax.

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get – We Sicilians have our own Island mon and consider Italians as a mixed race and kooks.

paesano!…My mother and her family are from just outside Augusta

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guy, Wyoming comes in at number 29 in the list of fifty states.

Not exactly stellar…(SC 21 and ND 16)

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Vet- good to connect with another Tucker “Farmer” and I am sure fan of Coach AZ Johnson

Sad…Dekalb had one of the best school systems in the country when I went to Tucker High in the 60’s and now one of the worst! Some people let the power go to their heads!

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