DeKalb school board has forfeited right to office

Two rules of good governance:

Rule No. 1) It is never a good idea to let unelected people sit in judgment of and even remove officials who have been put into public office by the vote of the people. The practice contradicts the entire concept of self-government and undermines accountability. If voters elect bad officials, they ought to live with the consequences of doing so.

Rule No. 2) In case of a true emergency, Rule No. 1 can and must be broken.

The DeKalb County School Board is the perfect case study of why Rule No. 2 exists. The board and the district that it is supposed to oversee are not merely dysfunctional; they have been dysfunctional for years. Superintendents have come and gone, often walking away with nice payoffs and in one case with a corruption indictment. Studies and audits have been authorized, conducted and then buried. Pledges have been made that this time, things will finally change, and time and again the change has been for the worse.

Millions of dollars in taxpayer money have been wasted. Precious years have been wasted. More important, tens of thousands of students have passed through a school system that did not treat their education as its top priority. There is too little sign that is changing.

Quite the contrary. Since December, when the DeKalb school system was notified that its repeated misbehavior had put its accreditation in danger, board members have made it more clear than ever that their top priority is maintaining their own power and authority. They have hired outside legal counsel, at considerable taxpayer expense, to protect their own jobs. They have filed state and federal lawsuits, again at considerable expense, challenging the state’s right to remove them.

Had they shown similar initiative and energy in fixing the district’s problems, they would not find themselves in this situation.

In another step to deflect criticism, the board has hired former state legislator and labor commissioner Michael Thurmond to serve as its interim superintendent. Thurmond is a good man and is generally well respected by both Republicans and Democrats. By nature and experience, he is well-suited to bridge the geographic, racial and economic divides that make DeKalb such a complicated place to govern.

In a marathon meeting of the state Board of Education on Thursday, Thurmond committed himself to changing the district’s direction and leadership.

“This is the job of a lifetime,” he said to the state board, telling them that he would not have been lured out of his private law practice by anything less than than the opportunity to solve a major crisis.

Thurmond also vouched strongly for the current DeKalb board’s willingness to help him. The problem is, as an employee of the DeKalb board, he cannot fix the board. His own competence, reputation and experience have no real relevance to the board’s fate. Furthermore, it is unfair and inappropriate for the board to use Thurmond as a mouthpiece to plead publicly on their behalf. His job as interim superintendent is to improve the education being offered to DeKalb students, not to preserve the jobs of the board members who hired him.

Last night, the state board voted unanimously to recommend removal of most of the DeKalb board. Sadly, the district’s issues are too profound to be solved by that step alone. But if Gov. Nathan Deal ends up following that recommendation, and if the courts decide that he has the authority to do so, progress can begin.

– Jay Bookman

601 comments Add your comment

Morality?

February 22nd, 2013
12:51 pm

12:45 Facts are facts -sorry you don’t like reality and won’t admit the Dems sold out their principles (if they ever had any) in return for “W” going along with the expansion of the SOCIALIST social programs. The TRUTH is that everyone has their PRICE – especially the corrupt at the trough of D. C.

stands for decibels - Race Traitor!

February 22nd, 2013
12:51 pm

I think the cons secretly want Chavez as their leader

If he winds up seeing Cheney’s doctor we’ll know for sure.

indigo

February 22nd, 2013
12:52 pm

HDB

So, you are proud of your Black ancestry.

Then, I have a right to be proud of my White ancestry.

And, Asians have a right to be proud of their Asian ancestry.

And, bi-racial people have a right to be proud of their bi-racial ancestry.

And, multi-racial people have a right to be proud of their multi-racial history.

So, we have a world where EVERY SINGLE HUMAN goes around being proud of their racial ancestry.

Does that honestly make any sense to you?

Butch Cassidy (I)

February 22nd, 2013
12:53 pm

Taxpayer – “I think the cons secretly want Chavez as their leader because he would make their gas cheap for them.”

I guess, since Nationalization is the only way to get the mythical cheap fuel that they dream about.

Brosephus™

February 22nd, 2013
12:54 pm

http://suite101.com/article/human-genetics-lab–eye-color-genes-dimples-earlobe-traits-a284666

Eye Color Genetics

The alleles for eye color are “E” and “e.” Brown eyes are a dominant trait, while blue is considered recessive, therefore:
•Brown eyes genotypes – EE or Ee;
•Blue eyes genotype – ee.

—————

http://www.blinn.edu/socialscience/LDThomas/Feldman/Handouts/0203hand.htm

Characteristics in the left-hand column dominate over those characteristics listed in the right-hand column.

eye coloring…. brown eyes…. grey, green, hazel, blue eyes

And so on…

Brosephus™

February 22nd, 2013
12:56 pm

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-504763_162-20011175-10391704.html

(CBS) How did Ben and Angela Ihegboro, a black Nigerian couple living in London, give birth to a white daughter?

The answer may not be so black and white, experts say.

According to the BBC, there are three potential reasons for the baby Nmachi’s unexpected appearance: “dormant white genes which entered both of her parents’ families long ago, a genetic mutation unique to her, or albinism.”

The first reports on the family’s strange case had ruled out albinism, but the BBC says Nmachi’s doctors have not ruled it out.

Morality?

February 22nd, 2013
12:57 pm

Time for a 3rd Party that will value the FISCAL future of the USA over PARTY loyalty to the left or to the right. Time for TERM LIMITS to rid ourselves of the gutless unwilling to vote for the survival of the FISCAL future of the USA. Time for a Balanced Budget Amendment to the Constitution to slow down this destruction of the FISCAL future of the USA. If you keep voting these gutless PARTY LOYALISTS BACK IN CONGRESS you are gutless.

indigo

February 22nd, 2013
12:58 pm

barking frog

February 22nd, 2013
12:58 pm

Even if the Governor and the Courts remove the board
the people may elect worse.

stands for decibels - Unfounded allegations of anti-semitism survivor!

February 22nd, 2013
12:58 pm

Forgot to add this link, Bros.

Butch Cassidy (I)

February 22nd, 2013
12:59 pm

Here F. Sinkwich take a lesson:

How the leases work: The oil industry routinely leases blocks of land from the federal government to explore for oil and gas. The leases typically last for 5 to 10 years and cost anywhere from $75,000 to $2 million to get. Then the companies have to pay an additional fee each year for the duration of the lease.

If oil is found, the company get’s to keep the lease for the life of the well, which could be 40 years. They would also have to pay the government a royalty on the production, usually ranging from 12% to 18%. If no oil is found, the land reverts to the government.

Markey and other lawmakers say the industry is purposefully idling production so they can book the oil and gas reserves on their balance sheet as an asset — a move that might drive up their stock price.

Critics also say they might be saving the oil for a future date, when prices might be higher.

The Interior Department, which supports efforts to put more of these leases into production, says over half the nation’s 20 billion barrels of recoverable oil reserves lie untapped in the Gulf of Mexico.

To prod the industry into more rapidly exploring and drilling on these acres, the administration and members of Congress have proposed shortening the period for which leases are awarded — a so-called “use it or lose it” provision.

They have also proposed increasing the amount of money companies have to pay each year for their leases, which can range from $40,000 to $200,000.

Drilling for oil isn’t so simple: But the oil industry and independent experts say it’s ridiculous to believe that companies wouldn’t be trying to produce all they can from the land they have leased if it made financial sense.

The huge amount of untapped land being leased is accurate, said Erik Milito, director of exploration and production at the American Petroleum Institute. But to just look at that number and say the industry is sitting on its hands is too simplistic, “it doesn’t explain the oil and gas businesses at all.”

One reason the industry isn’t producing on these lands, said Milito, is because there’s simply no oil there. Only 25 to 30% of the acres the industry leases offshore ends up having large enough oil deposits to bring into production, he said.

Another reason is the time it takes to go from bidding on a lease to producing oil. It can take seven, eight, nine years to do the seismic work, line up the contractors, conduct the exploratory drilling, and then build the infrastructure needed to bring the oil and gas market, he said.

“Companies are in the businesses of developing oil and gas resources, not buying leases,” said Milito. “You’re not going to make any money if you’re sitting on it.”

Guy Caruso, former head to the government’s Energy Information Administration who’s now at the Center For Strategic and International Studies, agreed.

Caruso also cited the long lead time needed to develop an oil lease and the fact that firms want to recoup any money they put into exploration relatively quickly.

Accusations that oil companies aren’t drilling in order to book the oil reserves also seem simplistic. An exploration well would be needed for the firm to book the discovery on its balance sheet.

Plus, he said oil at $100 a barrel is a huge incentive for companies to produce oil now. The price in the future, he noted, is anyone’s guess.

“This is good politics,” said Caruso, “but it’s not the way the business works.”

By forcing the industry to produce on its idle leases, lawmakers hope to raise domestic oil production, which would tend to increase U.S. jobs and add to federal tax rolls without having to open up additional lands for drilling.

Some hope it would also lower gas prices. But it’s questionable if forcing production would have the desired effect.

“Diligent development policies are unlikely to encourage money-losing production today,” said Kevin Book, a managing director at ClearView Energy Partners, a research outfit. “If producing were economic, investor-owned oil companies would be doing it.”

stands for decibels - imaginary unfounded allegations of anti-semitism survivor!

February 22nd, 2013
1:00 pm

whoops, meant to say, this link. (I suck at this.)

stands for decibels - imaginary unfounded allegations of anti-semitism survivor!

February 22nd, 2013
1:04 pm

Here’s indigo’s mo’-definitely scientifical analysis he’s citing on the burning “Wuz them Egyptians Darkies?” question:

The ancient Egyptians also wrote about Blacks as a foreign people who were often used as slaves. The Egyptians commented that Blacks were not very smart, but they were great athletes, entertainers and musicians. Some things never change!

yea verily, I am in awe of your googling skillz.

Morality?

February 22nd, 2013
1:04 pm

My guess is Obama voters also voted for the Dekalb School Board and also voted for the Congress that has run up this disaster of a Fed Debt headed over the Fiscal Cliff like lemmings to their doom. . Brain Dead Zombies.

alex

February 22nd, 2013
1:05 pm

@Jam, in a previous post, many days ago, I wondered if the heavy dem vote reflected a respect for the Truman’s position on the creation of Israel, as I remember you disregarded that opinion without any relection. Since that time I have tried to undrstand the question. I , currently think it has to do more with teh historical perception of the JEWS being and “uncerclass” peoples (money lenders etc) and their connection with others of theis perception (blacks, gays, other minority groups in general). There is NO doubt that the jewish religion puts great emphasis on education, family (although recently the divorce reate has significantly increasedd), and material goods. I think that jews despise the GOP for their perception that the GOP disparages all minorities (of which they are one). I think it has less to do with intellectual. ;there are many intellectual bigots. It is their bigotry that offends the jew, not the intellect level..

Kamchak ~Thug from the Steppes

February 22nd, 2013
1:07 pm

Brain Dead Zombies.

Dittoheads say, “What?”

Morality?

February 22nd, 2013
1:07 pm

Obama’s not like you! Obama is a member of the despised 1%. Obama has 4 mansions in 4 different states serviced by gardeners and house servants. Obama’s not like you.

Butch Cassidy (I)

February 22nd, 2013
1:08 pm

Morality? -”My guess is Obama voters also voted for the Dekalb School Board and also voted for the Congress that has run up this disaster of a Fed Debt headed over the Fiscal Cliff like lemmings to their doom.”

Sooooo….we’ve heard here that the Dekalb school board is made up of Democrats, which inherently means that Democrats must have voted for them. But your contention is that Democrats voted for a predominately Republican Congress as well?

stands for decibels - imaginary unfounded allegations of anti-semitism survivor!

February 22nd, 2013
1:08 pm

serviced by gardeners

heh, heh, heh. Freudian slip much?

Morality?

February 22nd, 2013
1:11 pm

1:07 You are wrong once more. I am no ditto head and I did coin the phrase “brain dead zombies for Obama” ……… can’t even get Rush Limbaugh here in the outback. I am neither a Dem nor a Repub nor a Brain Dead Zombie for Obama.

Butch Cassidy (I)

February 22nd, 2013
1:11 pm

Morality? – “Obama has 4 mansions in 4 different states serviced by gardeners and house servants.”

He has one house in Chicago. Seriously, do you ever think before you post?

Brosephus™

February 22nd, 2013
1:12 pm

dB

There is soooo much wrong with the artwork on that link. I feel bad that I laughed at it.

Jack ®

February 22nd, 2013
1:13 pm

The DeKalb school board disgrace needs more light shown on it. Was wondering if Bookman was ever going to get around to it. Maybe he’ll even shine some light on the WIC issue.

Keep Up the Good Fight!

February 22nd, 2013
1:13 pm

I see Morality is making false claims again. :lol: How about those false claims about Obama entering the WH as a non-millionaire. :lol:

Kamchak ~Thug from the Steppes

February 22nd, 2013
1:14 pm

…… can’t even get Rush Limbaugh here in the outback.

Maybe you’re using the wrong bait.

Have you tried baiting the trap with Oxycontin or young 3rd world boys?

Aquagirl

February 22nd, 2013
1:16 pm

So, we have a world where EVERY SINGLE HUMAN goes around being proud of their racial ancestry.

White people are so proud because everyone important was white. Egyptians, Conquistadors, Marco Polo, Robert E. Lee, and the most famous Caucasian of them all, Jesus.

Now that’s some heritage, but we don’t deny the little dark folk their accomplishments. Like, uh, spaghetti. Italians aren’t 100% white, so dark people should get at least 10% there. And uhhhhh….spears! My white neighbor has some really cool african spears on her wall along with a shield-thingy, she picked them up at a flea market from an authentic dark person. We’re grateful for the African contribution to art, her wall would be all empty without it. Or she’d have to use white people spears, that wouldn’t be nearly as cool.

And then there’s all the stuff from the Americas, which we named for one of those not 100% white Italians—-a fair compromise since we couldn’t understand the name used by dark people who claimed they’d been living here, waiting for white people to come help them out. Anyway, so now we have maize and llamas and teepees, those are important.

I do wish dark people would have invented non-spitting llamas, but nobody’s perfect.

Brosephus™

February 22nd, 2013
1:17 pm

Kamchak

I don’t know what’s worse, laughing at dB’s link or your 1:14 comment. I’m gonna need my own personal prayer service before too long…

F. Sinkwich

February 22nd, 2013
1:17 pm

“They even need the president to lower gas prices for them. ”

Right about now I’d settle for one who didn’t work tirelessly in increase them.

Morality?

February 22nd, 2013
1:17 pm

1:08 – There you go again. Unwilling to accept the fact that this Fed Debt was run up over decades when both Repubs and Dems took turns running it up. I give the Dems most of the credit for the run up because of their unceasing desire for big gub’ment unfunded or under funded SOCIALIST social programs. they also voted to fund “W”’s war in return for more big gub’ment SOCIALIST social program spending. BOTH sides and their VOTERS are guilty as charged.

Brosephus™

February 22nd, 2013
1:18 pm

Dammit Aquagirl…

I’m trying not to laugh at this stuff anymore, and you go and kick me in the solar plexus…

:lol: :lol: :lol:

Class of '98

February 22nd, 2013
1:19 pm

Hey Jay, a new poll from the non-partisan firm of Thingamajig, Whatchamacallit and Doohickey says that a majority of Americans think printed newspapers are as dead as the Dodo.

Thought you’d be interested in that. I know how you love polls.

HDB

February 22nd, 2013
1:19 pm

indigo
February 22nd, 2013
12:52 pm

Do you REALLY want to go there…because history has shown that many other races have been FORCED to ignore their racial identity because of the Caucasian desire of assimilation and/or domination!! The problem that the preponderance of Americans have is the denial of multi-cultural and ethnic INCORPORATION of the American fabric! If you really want to get technical….the entire American fabric is based on the subjugation of the NATIVES to Caucasian desire and expansion ideas……..

I can be PROUD of my heritage…. knowledgeable of history and the effects therein…..responsible for my portrait of life……..understanding of ignorance….cognizant of the assimilation….but refusing the acceptance of subjugation……

As many of us say it….”Don’t hate the player…hate the game!”

getalife

February 22nd, 2013
1:19 pm

High gas prices means demand is high which means the global economy is good.

“Don’t call it a comeback.”

Marty Huggins'

February 22nd, 2013
1:20 pm

Don’t know if has been previously mentioned but Sumter County in South Georgia is going through a very similar situation which may result in similar outcomes.

Doggone/GA

February 22nd, 2013
1:20 pm

“Do some research on genetics”

Bro – one small correction. It’s not a question of “how often” Causcasians produce “melanin enhanced” children. They don’t, unless one of the parents is melanin enhanced.

It’s not genetically possible for a pale, blond, blue-eyed couple to produce a child with significantly more melanin than the parents…the genes simply aren’t there.

Just to illustrate, I read, MANY years ago now, about a university lecturer who said when he gave his lecture on human genetics he would say “Two blue-eyed, blonde people cannot produce a child with brown eyes” and INVARIABLY (as he said) some lovely brown-eye beauty in the front row would say “But both MY parents have blue eyes”

JamVet

February 22nd, 2013
1:20 pm

alex. great post.

The anti-Republicanism among MOTs far precedes Truman.

1924 Davis(D) – 54%, Coolidge(R) 27%
1928 Smith(D) 72%, Hoover(R) 28%
1932 FDR(D) 82%, Hoover(R) 18%
1936 FDR 85%, Landon 15%
1940 FDR 90%, Wilkie 10%
1944 FDR 90%, Dewey 10%

And among Jews every time that some dufus like Rick Santorum describes President Obama as a “snob” for wanting all Americans to pursue higher education, and suggesting that institutions of higher learning are centers of liberal indoctrination, the certainly cringe.

As you know that insane liberal indoctrination talking point is VERY popular here among the right wingers.

They mock the advice of Nobel Prize-winning economists and praise the financial acumen of plumbers and builders. They ridicule ambassadors and diplomats while promoting jingoistic journalists who have never lived abroad and speak no foreign languages.

And with the rise of shock radio and television, they have found a large, popular audience that eagerly absorbs their contempt for intellectual elites. They hoped to shape that audience, but the truth is that their audience has now shaped them.

stands for decibels - imaginary unfounded allegations of anti-semitism survivor!

February 22nd, 2013
1:20 pm

And uhhhhh….spears!

Someone mention spear-chuckers? Getcher spear-chuckers here…

(ok, I’m cheating a bit–a Trinidadian dude did take the gold in 2012, actually.)

HDB

February 22nd, 2013
1:20 pm

Brosephus™
February 22nd, 2013
1:17 pm

“Hail Mary, full of grace…..”

Hollywould

February 22nd, 2013
1:21 pm

Jay or anyone who might know, here is a question that is off-topic although I can’t tell what the topic is after all these blogs. What happens to the social security money that you and your employer have paid into if you die before receiving it?

getalife

February 22nd, 2013
1:23 pm

“What happens to the social security money that you and your employer have paid into if you die before receiving it?”

The gop try to steal it.

HDB

February 22nd, 2013
1:24 pm

Aquagirl
February 22nd, 2013
1:16 pm

You’re off the chain today, girl…….
:)

Brosephus™

February 22nd, 2013
1:25 pm

Doggone

I was reading further, and I’ll have to somewhat correct myself as your story shows. If the genetic traits are there, then it is remotely possible for two pale and blue eyed parents to conceive a melanin enhanced child. The only way is that they would have to have melanin enhanced ancestry on one or both family trees and carry the genes necessary to produce that child. In most cases, however, you won’t find someone with all recessive traits that carry dominant genes.

Morality?

February 22nd, 2013
1:26 pm

1:14 – Not in to boys – that would be Bonnie Frank and his roommate in the basement. Don’t need Limbaugh and don’t have time to listen to the liars on BOTH sides on the so called TV news. They all slant the news to serve their political agenda. PBS is the closest to the real news – thought they are left of center they try to be honest.

Vet

February 22nd, 2013
1:26 pm

Sad…Dekalb had one of the best school systems in the country when I went to Tucker High in the 60’s and now one of the worst! Some people let the power go to their heads!

Brosephus™

February 22nd, 2013
1:26 pm

HDB

I’m at the point where I think I need to bless my water supply… A shower in holy water might help me, that is, if it doesn’t sting too much.

:lol:

Hollywould

February 22nd, 2013
1:27 pm

getalife, thanks. I figured someone would come up with their cute quips. So you don’t know, correct?

HDB

February 22nd, 2013
1:27 pm

Hollywould
February 22nd, 2013
1:21 pm

That’s contingent upon your status:

1) Minor child can get Social Security survivor payment if not older than 18 (high school)…or 21 (if in college)…or up to 25 (if graduate school)

2) Surviving spouse can get survivor’s benefits

Otherwise….payments got to the federal coffers…….

stands for decibels - imaginary unfounded allegations of anti-semitism survivor!

February 22nd, 2013
1:28 pm

What happens to the social security money that you and your employer have paid into if you die before receiving it?

So many punchlines, so little time.

But seriously, other than the historical anomaly of the intra-governmental Trust Fund of the 1980s FICA has always been a pay-as-you-go kinda deal. The money withheld today pays current recipients. The money withheld at your retirement pays you, assuming you continue to live.

If you don’t, well, you don’t take it with ya when you go, right?

Doggone/GA

February 22nd, 2013
1:29 pm

“however, you won’t find someone with all recessive traits that carry dominant genes”

Yes, it’s impossible. I have a hard times, sometimes, explaining that to dog people when it comes to dog color genetics…on which I’m something of an expert.

Look before I leap...

February 22nd, 2013
1:29 pm

“Jay or anyone who might know, here is a question that is off-topic although I can’t tell what the topic is after all these blogs. What happens to the social security money that you and your employer have paid into if you die before receiving it?”

The money you pay in goes to fund the checks going out today.
It does not go into an account with your name on it.

If you die, you are S-O-L, although there are survivors benefits available to your spouse (50% of what you would have received).

stands for decibels - imaginary unfounded allegations of anti-semitism survivor!

February 22nd, 2013
1:29 pm

Bonnie Frank and his roommate

first getting serviced in multiple states, now this. Morality is boy-crazy!

(NTTAWWT.)

JamVet

February 22nd, 2013
1:31 pm

From another of those very educated, successful Jews:

Writing recently in the New York Times, David Brooks noted correctly (if belatedly) that conservatives’ “disdain for liberal intellectuals” had slipped into “disdain for the educated class as a whole,” and worried that the Republican Party was alienating educated voters. I couldn’t care less about the future of the Republican Party, but I do care about the quality of political thinking and judgment in the country as a whole.

There was a time when conservative intellectuals raised the level of American public debate and helped to keep it sober. Those days are gone. As for political judgment, the promotion of Sarah Palin as a possible world leader speaks for itself. The Republican Party and the political right will survive, but the conservative intellectual tradition is already dead.

HDB

February 22nd, 2013
1:32 pm

Brosephus™
February 22nd, 2013
1:26 pm

Go get communion instead……Courvosier works really well for you to get into the spirits!!
:)

Look before I leap...

February 22nd, 2013
1:32 pm

“1) Minor child can get Social Security survivor payment if not older than 18 (high school)…or 21 (if in college)…or up to 25 (if graduate school)”

Well if the guy is near retirement age and has children under 18, then that may be the reason he keeled over before collecting a dime.

stands for decibels - imaginary unfounded allegations of anti-semitism survivor!

February 22nd, 2013
1:32 pm

anyway, I guess I stopped contributing anything meaningful to this here thread about as soon as I popped back in, so I’ll say so long unless/until Jay’s got something new for us.

Hollywould

February 22nd, 2013
1:32 pm

So, the spouse will automaticaly get it or is that something that has to be in writing somewhere?

Morality?

February 22nd, 2013
1:32 pm

1:21 – “What happens to the social security money”? Nothing happens to it as it has already been spent. There is nothing in the S.S fund except IOU’s and whatever tax dollars they bring in today and goes out tomorrow. As I have said before the S.S. system is the largest PONZI scheme in history. We had the dot.com bubble, the real estate bubble and next is the health care bubble soon to be followed by the gub’ment bond bubble which will be the mother of all bubbles. At least the end won’t be boring.

Corbin Sharpe. I think, therefore I am...I think

February 22nd, 2013
1:33 pm

getalife

February 22nd, 2013
1:34 pm

“So you don’t know, correct?”

It is the truth.

It stays in the fund and the gop tries to steal it.

F. Sinkwich

February 22nd, 2013
1:34 pm

“High gas prices means demand is high which means the global economy is good.”

I’ve read so many posts on Jay’s blogs that I can’t say with certainty that this one is the stupidest.

Corbin Sharpe. I think, therefore I am...I think

February 22nd, 2013
1:36 pm

HDB

February 22nd, 2013
1:36 pm

Hollywould
February 22nd, 2013
1:32 pm

Got to file and request for it…….it’s always something……

Aquagirl

February 22nd, 2013
1:36 pm

Why are people laughing at my history lesson? I spent hours learning all that stuff in a Jawja classroom. Geez.

I could have learned a lot more if the commie ACLU Jewish lawyers hadn’t taken our white Jesus off the wall, after that we only studied bongmaking and fornication.

getalife

February 22nd, 2013
1:37 pm

no morals,

The gop failed to privatize ss to steal it.

getalife

February 22nd, 2013
1:38 pm

“I’ve read so many posts on Jay’s blogs that I can’t say with certainty that this one is the stupidest.”

I guess you don’t read what you post filky.

Brosephus™ - Browning America Since 1973

February 22nd, 2013
1:38 pm

Doggone/GA

February 22nd, 2013
1:38 pm

“Well if the guy is near retirement age and has children under 18, then that may be the reason he keeled over before collecting a dime.”

Steve Martin’s first child was just born recently. Steve Martin is 67

Morality?

February 22nd, 2013
1:39 pm

Hollywould – the spouse might get the IOU’s if they have been married to their spouse for a certain length of time ( I was told two years) – if you were married less than that good luck! Go to the S.S. office -make an appointment – be nice – wait in line and they will tell you the latest regs to get S.S. This changes about as often as politicians change their minds.

Look before I leap...

February 22nd, 2013
1:40 pm

“..we only studied bongmaking and fornication.”

Do you happen to have pictures from exam week?
If so, please share.

Betsy Parks

February 22nd, 2013
1:41 pm

alex

February 22nd, 2013
1:41 pm

@Jam, as surely there are bigots and ignorant people in the far right wing, there are the same in the far left wing. You and I surely have our biases ,genetic or learned. You are shrill about it, like my father, There are surely shrill Repubs also. Neither party holds the intellectual high ground at all times and in each participant. No religion holds the “moral” high ground either (e.g. “voting with your wallet”), it would be good for all of us to remember that.

@ getalife, oil prices are on a global supply/demand curve of which the global economy is but 1 input..but commodity prices are complicated and taxes are involved (asked californians and new yorkers)etc. I googled this late last night, my son(a good kid,) thinks it’s the president’s fault….no apple tree jokes, please.

Marty Huggins'

February 22nd, 2013
1:42 pm

While doing a little research on this found something I thought was odd.

4 of the bottom 5 ranked schools (159-164) voted for Obama by a large majority, as did Dekalb which was 130 of 164.

Also of the top 5 counties none gave a majority of votes to Obama.

Look before I leap...

February 22nd, 2013
1:42 pm

“Steve Martin’s first child was just born recently. Steve Martin is 67″

Makes me wonder what the heck he was doing wrong all those years.

Morality?

February 22nd, 2013
1:42 pm

1:36 – You have to CONSIDER who wrote this. If you TRUST politicians and the gub’ment with the TRUTH you are mighty naive.

getalife

February 22nd, 2013
1:44 pm

alex,

Tell your son when w collapsed the global economy, check out the price of gas.

Then compare the global economy and the price of gas today.

Teach him about supply and demand.

guy

February 22nd, 2013
1:44 pm

I bet they don’t have this problem in Wyoming,or South or North Dakota. Population is less but quality is much better. it is what it is,folks!!!!!!!!!!!!! Love to all!!

Morality?

February 22nd, 2013
1:44 pm

1:42 Steve Martin had a stand in…. surrogate, replacement – whatever you call it.

HDB

February 22nd, 2013
1:45 pm

Brosephus™ – Browning America Since 1973
February 22nd, 2013
1:38 pm

The SECOND…I think that was the Napoleon…but if you can’t go there….try the XO or VSOP……
:)

Erwin's cat

February 22nd, 2013
1:46 pm

Like, uh, spaghetti. Italians

I believe the Chinese beat them to it….and you characterizations of them and color are a bit off as well
There are plenty of blonde hair blue eyes in the north..black hair brown eyes in the south and both the North and the South dislike the Sicilians because they are believed by some Italians to be a mixed race

Morality?

February 22nd, 2013
1:47 pm

Jay – what will be monday’s topic? Which “CARD” will you play?

alex

February 22nd, 2013
1:48 pm

@ Jam, just read you more recent post, be careful : the general attributes of the whole are not necessarily contained in all of it’s parts….

Perhaps, I should now accept Brook’s call….Interesting ,who stated (noted CORRECTLY)…bias?

getalife

February 22nd, 2013
1:48 pm

“dislike the Sicilians because they are believed by some Italians to be a mixed race,”

We Sicilians have our own Island mon and consider Italians as a mixed race and kooks.

AmericaShrugged

February 22nd, 2013
1:48 pm

Bro & Dog – The most likely explanation is of course option 4, Angela was a wide receiver!

JamVet

February 22nd, 2013
1:50 pm

alex, I am shrill. But I prefer to think of it in terms of definition number five! (Though you probably think it is number four!)

shrill -verb, noun, adverb, adjective
1. high-pitched and piercing in sound quality: a shrill cry.
2. producing such a sound.
3. full of or characterized by such a sound: shrill music.
4. betraying some strong emotion or attitude in an exaggerated amount, as antagonism or defensiveness.
5. marked by great intensity; keen:

Like many here, I have strong opinions and like some here, the wherewithal to intelligently explain them and engage in cogent debate.

Do you happen to have pictures from exam week?
If so, please share.

Yes, and do hurry before we are relegated to the restricted bane of the new blog format!

Jay, you are a highly respected journalist and man of some esteemed standing, so once again, vis a vis this awful change…

LET MY PEOPLE GO!

Morality?

February 22nd, 2013
1:51 pm

Got’s to go feed MUCHU my pet DRAGON. All you BRAIN DEAD ZOMBIES have a NICE DAY! (smiley face patent applied for)

getalife

February 22nd, 2013
1:53 pm

I like change.

It is constant and inevitable.

Embrace it.

No more drudgey links is a good thing.

Paul

February 22nd, 2013
1:53 pm

Sinkwich

“I’ve read so many posts on Jay’s blogs that I can’t say with certainty that this one is the stupidest.”

I’m thinking it’s the one never answered about why it’s okay for corporations with billions in profits to obey the law and pay no tax while it’s not okay for lower-income families to obey the lay and pay no tax.

alex

February 22nd, 2013
1:54 pm

2 Getalife, with all due respect there are shrill bloggers on the left who have interesting input, you are not one of them. You are shrill and uninformed, I think if you were jewish, Jamvet would disown you and appropriately so. My son is young and foolish ,he is not willfully ignorant like you. I know you don’t care about this opinion, but you should know that your opinion holds no weight on this end.

@ Jam:Brooks vs. Gigot is always fun…

Erwin's cat

February 22nd, 2013
1:55 pm

get – We Sicilians have our own Island mon and consider Italians as a mixed race and kooks.

paesano!…My mother and her family are from just outside Augusta

Aquagirl

February 22nd, 2013
1:56 pm

Got’s to go feed MUCHU my pet DRAGON.

Well $#!^, where are we GONNA find OUR RANDOM caps NOW?

JamVet

February 22nd, 2013
1:56 pm

guy, Wyoming comes in at number 29 in the list of fifty states.

Not exactly stellar…(SC 21 and ND 16)

Tundra Dude

February 22nd, 2013
1:56 pm

Writing recently in the New York Times, David Brooks noted correctly (if belatedly) that conservatives’ “disdain for liberal intellectuals” had slipped into “disdain for the educated class as a whole,”

This Republican would agree:

GOP Icon Declares Party “Brain Dead”
Richard A Posner has been a long time federal judge – in fact the first judge appointed to the bench by Reagan in 1981.
(snip)
My theme is the intellectual decline of conservatism, and it is notable that the policies of the new conservatism are powered largely by emotion and religion and have for the most part weak intellectual groundings. That the policies are weak in conception, have largely failed in execution, and are political flops is therefore unsurprising.
(snipped)
By the fall of 2008, the face of the Republican Party had become Sarah Palin and Joe the Plumber. Conservative intellectuals had no party.
http://bit.ly/MtouwL

Thomas

February 22nd, 2013
1:58 pm

Vet- good to connect with another Tucker “Farmer” and I am sure fan of Coach AZ Johnson

Sad…Dekalb had one of the best school systems in the country when I went to Tucker High in the 60’s and now one of the worst! Some people let the power go to their heads!

alex

February 22nd, 2013
1:58 pm

@ Jam, perhaps I would more strongly characterize your comments as inflexible. Shrill, is not well represented in 2 dimensions.

getalife

February 22nd, 2013
1:59 pm

cat,

My Grandparents migrated from Sicily to Brooklyn and set up a speakeasy.

Morality?

February 22nd, 2013
2:00 pm

IQ chart: Brain Surgeon, Rocket Scientist, Stock Market Guru, CPA >>>>>>>> EDUCATOR >>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Dish Washer >>>>>>>>>>>> Grave digger >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Congress >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Brain Dead Zombies for Obama.

getalife

February 22nd, 2013
2:00 pm

Skip

February 22nd, 2013
2:02 pm

I think Monday Jay should do Morality’s greatest hits.

Erwin's cat

February 22nd, 2013
2:02 pm

get – ever been back to the old country?…it’s a beautiful place!
I’m thinking of retiring there. You can get a farm with lemon and almond trees on a couple hectors on the cheap

Morality?

February 22nd, 2013
2:03 pm

SICILIANS – best known for “The Godfather”.