The Chinese gov’t knows that you’re reading this
“Start asking security experts which powerful Washington institutions have been penetrated by Chinese cyberspies, and this is the usual answer: almost all of them.
The list of those hacked in recent years includes law firms, think tanks, news organizations, human rights groups, contractors, congressional offices, embassies and federal agencies.
The information compromised by such intrusions, security experts say, would be enough to map how power is exercised in Washington to a remarkably nuanced degree. The only question, they say, is whether the Chinese have the analytical resources to sort through the massive troves of data they steal every day….
“They’re trying to make connections between prominent people who work at think tanks, prominent donors that they’ve heard of and how the government makes decisions,” said Dan Blumenthal, director of Asian studies at the American Enterprise Institute, which also has been hacked. “It’s a sophisticated intelligence-gathering effort at trying to make human-network linkages of people in power, whether they be in Congress or the executive branch.”
According to experts, the Chinese hack everybody. They hack major corporations and steal trade secrets — attacks against Google, Apple, the Wall Street Journal and the New York Times have been publicized in recent years. They hack lowly individual dissidents. They hack, or attempt to hack, major agencies in the U.S. government, including the Pentagon, CIA and White House and most certainly the Department of Commerce. Given the byzantine ways of the Chinese government, they almost certainly hack each other as well.
The natural response to such a discovery is outrage, and to some degree that outrage is justified. It is, at some level, a violation of our national sovereignty. But it gets complicated because China is hardly alone. A lot of other countries are aggressive about hacking into overseas computer networks, including the Israelis, the French and the Russians.
Oh, and the Americans too. It would be naive in the extreme to believe that the U.S. government isn’t running cyber-spying operations of its own. Those operations probably don’t extend to efforts to steal commercial secrets of foreign companies so that data can then be handed to U.S. companies, which the Chinese and other governments do. But on issues of national security, we are no doubt just as invasive as anybody else.
In other words, while everybody is a victim in this thing, everybody is also a villain. Nobody’s clean.
It’s also important to distinguish between cyberspying and cyberwarfare. If you can penetrate a highly sensitive computer network and steal data, you may also be able to do great damage to that network at a time of your choosing.
As President Obama put it in his State of the Union address:
“We know foreign countries and companies swipe our corporate secrets. Now our enemies are also seeking the ability to sabotage our power grid, our financial institutions, our air-traffic control systems. We cannot look back years from now and wonder why we did nothing in the face of real threats to our security and our economy.”
And again, it would be naive to believe that the U.S. government is not building similar capacity to bring down important computer networks in other countries, just in case it’s needed. In this game, like any other, you need to be able to play offense as well as defense.
To handle such duties, in 2010 the Defense Department created the U.S. CyberCommand, which is now slated for a major expansion. Eighty percent of the thousands of new personnel to be devoted to the effort will be military; 20 percent will be civilian experts. In fact, some of that expanded operation may be headquartered right here in Georgia, at Fort Gordon outside Augusta. That would be a big economic boost to the state, given the potential high-tech spinoffs from such an operation.
In other words, what we’re witnessing is a quiet, high-stakes state of virtual warfare that will be permanent and escalating.
– Jay Bookman
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February 21st, 2013
9:27 am
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February 21st, 2013
9:28 am
I’ve never done that. Almost ashamed that I did.
Brosephus™
February 21st, 2013
9:29 am
Maybe I should download some Asian bondage porn that shows Chinese men getting humiliated. If you’re going to hack my pc, you may as well have something worth looking at.
TaxPayer
February 21st, 2013
9:30 am
I remember a headline stating that Anonymous helped to determine the source of the recent hackings.
philosopher
February 21st, 2013
9:30 am
This is scary. How to live safely in a world so tightly woven around and through cyber space….
Fred ™
February 21st, 2013
9:34 am
But let’s be sure to recruit Chinese spies I mean students into all our top universities and institutions of higher learning in case there are lessons they missed. Hell let’s give them scholarships in the name of “diversity” over American students.
godless heathen - owner of many things he does not need
February 21st, 2013
9:34 am
If the ChiCom are sitting around reading this blog, I’m not too worried about them.
Steve
February 21st, 2013
9:35 am
I fear the grid being taken down – our society without power for more than few weeks would be scary indeed.
комиссар (Occupation)
February 21st, 2013
9:35 am
“Oh, and the Americans too. It would be naive in the extreme to believe that the U.S. government isn’t running cyber-spying operations of its own”
Is this supposed to be parody?
If so, it almost works.
Fred ™
February 21st, 2013
9:36 am
well philosopher, first you stasrt with a good Anti-virus, which is NOT McAfee or Norton. Then you add Spybot, Win Patrol, and Super Anti Spyware (SAS). I’d post links for you but I can only add 2 per post.
Oh and all of those have FREE versions which work quite well.
Aquagirl
February 21st, 2013
9:38 am
How to live safely in a world so tightly woven around and through cyber space….
Two words: Doomsday Preppers. What an awesome series.
Seriously though, a little prepping doesn’t hurt. It also curtails the need for our Southern tradition of mobbing grocery stores at the first snowflake.
Doggone/GA
February 21st, 2013
9:40 am
“This is scary. How to live safely in a world so tightly woven around and through cyber space”
It’s the same issue we’ve had since forever. When we lived on open plains the issue was protection from predators and enemies. So we moved to caves, but we still had the issue of that open cave entrance. So we built houses. Then we invented locking doors. Then we built stone buildings. You get the idea. It’s STILL all about keeping out enemies and predators.
DebbieDoRight - Minister Of Propaganda
February 21st, 2013
9:41 am
Cyber stalking is how we’ve (US) started to monitor segments of AlQ.
I’m very cynical about China taking US Companies trade secrets.
On the one hand, I am amused — Take THAT punk azz Fortune 500!! You shipped all those jobs overseas to China and now you’re finally getting your reward.
On the other hand, I’m horrified — Will those punk azz US companies expect the US to wage war on China in their behalf?
Then again, I’m waiting with bated breath — I wonder how good the Koch Brothers will look in a Kimona walking 10 paces behind some short studly Chineese male who has just made the Koch’s their beeeyooootches.
TaxPayer
February 21st, 2013
9:42 am
The only secure computer is an unplugged computer with a removeable harddrive that is removed and destroyed with a hammer and an incenerator. Be afwaid. Be vewwwwwy afwaid. Also, buy insurance and keep a stash of cash buried in a place that only you know about. Anyway, that’s part of what I do. Just to be safe. I mean after all, how many of you know that Jay knows what you are going to type even before you type it, huh!
teacher
February 21st, 2013
9:43 am
aquagirl,
did you see the doomsday with the missile silo in Kansas? he even had a blind date.
weetamoe
February 21st, 2013
9:44 am
Has anyone sent the Trademark a tinfoil hat yet?
Hey, Chinese students, don’t let the hok gui skeer ya.
Oscar
February 21st, 2013
9:44 am
Can they can also tell what I am typing before I type it.
DebbieDoRight - Minister Of Propaganda
February 21st, 2013
9:44 am
Hell let’s give them scholarships in the name of “diversity” over American students.
Word.
HDB
February 21st, 2013
9:46 am
Ni hao…….
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
February 21st, 2013
9:46 am
The Chinese gov’t knows that you’re reading this
So?
Hell, you’ve been able to see what we type before we post it for years.
Curious George
February 21st, 2013
9:46 am
Does the Chinese Government have a digital image of 0bamaJiveTalker’s REAL Kenyan Birth Certificate, too?
Steve
February 21st, 2013
9:47 am
@TaxPayer – I keep cash stored away, and a few weeks’ of food and water. Everyone should do this even for natural disasters. But what is the benefit of insurance?
Curious George
February 21st, 2013
9:48 am
Do the Chinese also know which of Barry “Barack” Hussein “0bama” Soetoro’s 16 different Social Security Numbers is really his?
DebbieDoRight - Minister Of Propaganda
February 21st, 2013
9:48 am
Here’s a copy Curious G. I keep one on hand all the time in case some one asks for it. Enjoy.
Seriously Folks
February 21st, 2013
9:49 am
VERY scary indeed. Of course, why hack the computers to find out who controls Congress? Why not just read a campaign finance report!!!! lol
Erwin's cat
February 21st, 2013
9:49 am
DDR – On the one hand, I am amused — Take THAT punk azz Fortune 500!! You shipped all those jobs overseas to China and now you’re finally getting your reward.
I think your outrage is a little misplaced
Fred ™
February 21st, 2013
9:50 am
weetamoe
February 21st, 2013
9:44 am
Has anyone sent the Trademark a tinfoil hat yet?
Hey, Chinese students, don’t let the hok gui skeer ya.
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Hi Sweet pea. Glad I’m here for you to stalk. Don’t forget about that restraining order though.
XOXOXOXOXOXOX
DownInAlbany
February 21st, 2013
9:51 am
I read it twice and still didn’t see Jay blaming the pubs for anything this morning. What the heck is going on? Did Jay get hacked and this posting was authored by someone else?
Logical Dude
February 21st, 2013
9:51 am
Hello again Chinese hackers (well, you don’t really need to hack the public forum to read this).
You already know my real name is Benjamin Franklin, I am 327 years old, and live on the moon.
So HA! I don’t use a computer so you can hack my accounts!
Real Scootter
February 21st, 2013
9:51 am
Well,y’all don’t have to worry about me hacking your computer.I can’t even figure out how to use spell check on my own computer. Whew!
DebbieDoRight - Minister Of Propaganda
February 21st, 2013
9:51 am
But what is the benefit of insurance?
IMO insurance is the best Ponzi scheme ever invented. You pay into it for years, use it maybe once or twice – you may get a minimal pay out; they raise your premiums, (sometimes); and then when you’re older, they try to cut you off.
It’s the greatest scam in the world.
Curious George
February 21st, 2013
9:51 am
Would the Chinese Government also cancel their AJC paper subscriptions for the “newspaper” having far too liberal and socialist a slant in its reporting for their collective taste?
Corbin Sharpe. I think, therefore I am...I think.
February 21st, 2013
9:52 am
…and remember…just because you are not paranoid, doesn’t mean you are not being watched…
Aquagirl
February 21st, 2013
9:52 am
he even had a blind date.
Now there’s a bad blind date story to top all bad blind date stories.
I’ve seen episodes with a guy developing silo condos and one with a hippie couple in (I think) a silo, but not that one. I’ll certainly be on the lookout for the Silo Guy with blind date episode.
Fred ™
February 21st, 2013
9:53 am
DDR: I complimented a friend one time on her name brand purse. Oh, it’s just a fake, she said.
No it’s not I told her. The same plant in China that Coach contracted 50,000 purses from made 5 million and only gave them 50,000. The rest they sold on the cheap but it’s the same purse made by the same slave laborers in the same Chinese factory.
Steve
February 21st, 2013
9:54 am
Carpe Diem. Live for today
rightwingextreme
February 21st, 2013
9:54 am
Right now I’m more worried about the monitoring being done by this administration.
DebbieDoRight - Minister Of Propaganda
February 21st, 2013
9:54 am
I think your outrage is a little misplaced
I’m not outraged — I’m amused!
rightwingextreme
February 21st, 2013
9:56 am
DebbieDoRight – Minister Of Propaganda
February 21st, 2013
9:51 am
But what is the benefit of insurance?
IMO insurance is the best Ponzi scheme ever invented. You pay into it for years, use it maybe once or twice – you may get a minimal pay out; they raise your premiums, (sometimes); and then when you’re older, they try to cut you off.
It’s the greatest scam in the world.
Insurance is not a ponzi scheme in that it doesn’t promise a payoff. You pay premiums for a period of coverage. If something happens you receive payment. If nothing happens no payment….but what you paid for was the potential repayment in the event of a loss.
Now if you’re social security to a ponzi scheme then you’re on to something.
Erwin's cat
February 21st, 2013
9:57 am
I blame Nixon
TaxPayer
February 21st, 2013
9:58 am
Steve,
Identity theft insurance to help you recover just in case some disgruntled Chinese General decides to steal yours and use it to enter the US illegally and start up a profitable business here without sharing any of the profits with you, for example, but leaving you with the tax bill.
JamVet
February 21st, 2013
9:59 am
George, as the Titans of Industry have sent millions of our jobs to the Chinese, might as well give them the whole damn farm and be done with it, huh?
TaxPayer
February 21st, 2013
9:59 am
Right now I’m more worried about the monitoring being done by this administration.
I heard some of their drones are as small as insects and I’m really concerned about those little buggers especially now that I recall that Raid did not work on the last one I sprayed. Hmmmmm.
Seriously Folks
February 21st, 2013
10:01 am
Well…I guess this makes the Chinese plan almost complete….Step 1) Introduce yummy food that makes you over eat, only to feel hungry a few hours later…Step 2) Buy up all of our t-bills to own our debt…Step 3) hack sensitive computers…Step 4) switch on the ingested mind control drugs consumed in Step 1~~~~ lol
Fred ™
February 21st, 2013
10:01 am
How many laps today until Danica eats a wall in today’s race?
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
February 21st, 2013
10:02 am
About that Friends of Hamas thingie: BigJournalism ’s new motto: “The story as reported is correct.. Whether the information I was given by the source is correct I am not sure”
Fred ™
February 21st, 2013
10:03 am
I heard some of their drones are as small as insects and I’m really concerned about those little buggers especially now that I recall that Raid did not work on the last one I sprayed. Hmmmmm.
They even fly in flocks of three……… http://tinyurl.com/bgbmg9m
St Simons - he-ne-ha
February 21st, 2013
10:04 am
well, they’re hacking our fish down here at the pier, too.
They love to fish. When a big ship from China pulls in,
and the fellows have some time off, they go straight for the pier.
Dam those boys do know how to fish, & have serrrious tackle too.
They can put us locals to shame, every time.
Logical Dude
February 21st, 2013
10:04 am
rightwingextreme: I’m more worried about the monitoring being done by this administration
I was worried about it with the last administration too, how about you?
The Patriot Act response was what spurred much of this.
Fred ™
February 21st, 2013
10:04 am
Kam: You still in Georgia or are you back in the hills?
philosopher
February 21st, 2013
10:04 am
Fred ™
February 21st, 2013
9:36 am
well philosopher, first you stasrt with a good Anti-virus, which is NOT McAfee or Norton. Then you add Spybot, Win Patrol, and Super Anti Spyware (SAS). I’d post links for you but I can only add 2 per post.
Thanks Fred-got all that…but there is always one brilliant kid smart enough to outsmart those… MY plan, as always is to pay attention, do the best I can…and keep on living.
DebbieDoRight - Minister Of Propaganda
February 21st, 2013
10:05 am
Would the Chinese Government also cancel their AJC paper subscriptions for the “newspaper” having far too liberal and socialist a slant in its reporting for their collective taste
I didn’t know school was out today. Weren’t they just out for President’s day?
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Fred: No it’s not I told her. The same plant in China that Coach contracted 50,000 purses from made 5 million and only gave them 50,000. The rest they sold on the cheap but it’s the same purse made by the same slave laborers in the same Chinese factory.
I have a funny story about that! When my dad was stationed in Korea (and dragged the family along with him); we used to buy all this electronic equipment off the economy. We had EVERYTHING! And my dad had this big ole reel to reel recording thingie; anyway when we PCS’d back to the states, (to Ft. McClellan in Bama); we lived on the economy and I had a lot of “non military brats” friends.
Anyway, my mother invited a bunch of my friend’s mothers over for a get to know you brunch, and they were all impressed with all of our electronic junk that we had in the home. When i went to school the next day, everyone was calling me “the rich kid”. they didn’t know we bought that stuff for pennies on the dollar they thought my folks had paid full price.
Anyway, someone breaks into our house, steals our stuff, and my dad puts in a claim — gets back about 45% more than what he originally paid for the stuff.
When I was older, I asked my folks did they think that one of my friends’ mothers’ had set us up for the break in, (I always thought thats what happened, but I was never sure and i’d always felt really bad about it). My dad was like, “Yep. That’s why I always prompted your mom to have your friends over. I knew someone would hit the house and I knew I’d clean up on the insurance claim!”
He told me that’s how he could afford a new car every 2 to 3 years….
True story!
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
February 21st, 2013
10:06 am
Fred
I’m still here. Got a few chores to do here before I go back.
kayaker 71
February 21st, 2013
10:07 am
Debbie,
Those evil Koch bros employ over 70,000 people world wide and supply them with a monthly income, medical insurance, retirement plans…. you know, all of those things that tend to make a person successful. But it’s better to demonize those evil people who give money to support something that they believe in and, horrors……. make money at the same time…. lots of money. Eat your heart out, my dear.
Fred ™
February 21st, 2013
10:07 am
Dam those boys do know how to fish, & have serrrious tackle too.
They can put us locals to shame, every time.
That’s because you are still using spears………
http://onebigphoto.com/spear-fishing/
Keep Up the Good Fight!
February 21st, 2013
10:08 am
Well if the US is not preparing to fight on this level, we are in deep trouble. Fiction writers have predicted creation of Net Forces for years. This is another example of why “starve the govt” is a mantra of the truly stupid. We need a strong govt to regulate and help the market prepare to fight these electronic battles. — Another message from the Zombie emergency warning system
Brosephus, thanks for the tip on the McConnell GI bill story. I heard a reference to it but had not looked it up. The GOP bubble is really sucking the O2 levels out of the GOP, its clear their brains cannot function.
Erwin's cat
February 21st, 2013
10:09 am
I heard some of their drones are as small as insects and I’m really concerned about those little buggers especially now that I recall that Raid did not work on the last one I sprayed. Hmmmmm.
think smaller
http://www.thecureisnow.org/index.php/our-strategy/departments/nanotechnology
Fred ™
February 21st, 2013
10:09 am
Debbie,
Those evil Koch bros employ over 70,000 people world wide and supply them with a monthly income, medical insurance, retirement plans…. you know, all of those things that tend to make a person successful. But it’s better to demonize those evil people who give money to support something that they believe in and, horrors……. make money at the same time…. lots of money. Eat your heart out, my dear.
+++++++++++++++++++++++++
They haven’t given them a pay raise in 10 years, they cut back their insurance, their Christmas bonus was a family picture of the Kochs, and they threatened to fire anyone who voted for Obama.
All the while recording record profits. They are scum who tried and FAILED to buy an President last November.
Grasshopper
February 21st, 2013
10:10 am
“It would be naive in the extreme to believe that the U.S. government isn’t running cyber-spying operations of its own.”
Yeah, but we’re the good guys. Remember?
Brosephus™
February 21st, 2013
10:12 am
Fred
He
She’s going to go the distance. I’m willing to bet that she hangs at the rear of the pack for the entire dual. Her spot is secure as long as she doesn’t screw up. I’m curious as to whether someone will “accidentally” take her out.
Fred ™
February 21st, 2013
10:13 am
philosopher: I hear ya. The protection keeps out the amateurs but if someone wants in your computer they are getting in your computer, it’s that simple.
Kam: The Qualifying races for the Daytona 500 start at 1:30 or 2 this afternoon. Wanna catch a beer or 10 and watch them? Maybe Bro can tell the missus he’s going out for some diapers …………
kayaker 71
February 21st, 2013
10:13 am
Fred, 10:09,
“Tried to buy a president last November”…… Are you saying that the Kochs failed and Soros didn’t?
Brosephus™
February 21st, 2013
10:14 am
Keep
The stoopids was strong with that story.
curious
February 21st, 2013
10:14 am
godless heathen – owner of many things he does not need
“If the ChiCom are sitting around reading this blog, I’m not too worried about them.”
If the ChiCom are sitting around reading this blog, They probably aren’t too worried about us, either.
Fred ™
February 21st, 2013
10:14 am
LOL Speak of Bro and he appears, even before you can post it. Talk about someone knowing what you are typing,……… it’s that Homeland Security dude doing the cyber spying.
Joe Hussein Mama
February 21st, 2013
10:14 am
Fred — “Oh and all of those have FREE versions which work quite well.”
I’m a big fan of F-Prot, which I’ve used for prit-near 20 years now. And the one time I sent them an e-mailed question, I got a response from the guy running the show, Fridrik Skulason.
They make free and pay versions for a variety of platforms (no, I’m not on commission, just a very satisfied customer).
They’re easily found on the web by googling F-Prot or FRISK Software.
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
February 21st, 2013
10:14 am
Fred
Love to, but I gotta clean out the gutters before the rain comes in.
Fred ™
February 21st, 2013
10:16 am
kayaker: Soro’s didn’t NEED to buy a President. We American patriots took care of electing one for him.
Redneck Convert (R--and proud of it)
February 21st, 2013
10:17 am
Well, I reckon it’s not enough that Bookman’s looking over my shoulder and knows what I’m typing. No, we got to have the Chinese Commies doing it too. Does this mean I need to learn Chinese?
Whatever happened to Privacy? We ought to have that—except, of course, for what you’re doing in the bedroom. After all, we ain’t that Loosy Goosy.
Have a good Thursday everybody.
Look before I leap...
February 21st, 2013
10:17 am
3 things to avoid being hacked:
Dump Windows
Dump Internet Explorer
Dump anything Adobe
Crap has more holes in it than a Fox story on Benghazi.
Jay
February 21st, 2013
10:17 am
Excellent point, Curious.
Brosephus™
February 21st, 2013
10:18 am
Fred
Homeland Security is real.
MANGLER
February 21st, 2013
10:19 am
Thank goodness Al Gore is on our side in all this! He invented the internet. If anyone can control it, it is he!
DebbieDoRight - Minister Of Propaganda
February 21st, 2013
10:19 am
Insurance is not a ponzi scheme in that it doesn’t promise a payoff
Umm I’m gonna kinda disagree almost………
You are promised a payout when something happens to you while you’re insured with said company. You’re NOT promised a weekly/monthly check; but you ARE promised payment.
Check out some of their commercials on t.v. (I like those “I’m Mayhem” commercials); they all slyly suggest that they will help you financially if something happens.
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Kam: About that Friends of Hamas thingie: BigJournalism ’s new motto: “The story as reported is correct.. Whether the information I was given by the source is correct I am not sure”
OMG Kam!! I heard about this ^^^ Its like the biggest PUNK of the year! The sad part, was that the repugs are trying to torpedo a good man’s reputation with nothing more than a comment made in JEST.
The really FUNNY part about it is that the repugs actually read and BELIEVE everything that’s in Briebart! Oh the faux “news stories” I could come up with and sell to them!
I could be rich in a week!
Fred ™
February 21st, 2013
10:19 am
JHM: I clean malware from computers and am a firm believer in FREE AV lol. I have paid for all mine (except the SAS) just to support the companies, not because I had to. Hell I load the free versions on every computer I build or clean lol. The SAS I got free from SAS in a promo.
I game a lot and it’s hard to find a good AV that has a small footprint and doesn’t interfere with the COD .
Fred ™
February 21st, 2013
10:20 am
Look before I leap…
February 21st, 2013
10:17 am
3 things to avoid being hacked:
Dump Windows
Dump Internet Explorer
Dump anything Adobe
Crap has more holes in it than a Fox story on Benghazi.
+++++++++++++++++++++++
Of course it took all of 5 seconds to hack a Mac…………….
Joe Hussein Mama
February 21st, 2013
10:21 am
Fred — “No it’s not I told her. The same plant in China that Coach contracted 50,000 purses from made 5 million and only gave them 50,000. The rest they sold on the cheap but it’s the same purse made by the same slave laborers in the same Chinese factory.”
Sir Mix-A-Lot
“Swap Meet Louie”
She says “I wanna make your girlfriend look good”
Start buying all your Louie in the hood
And you’re sprung, on the two for one
Fake Louie at the swap meet, son
Now you know brown Louie is played
But you’re drunk and you just got paid
So you bought the gear, little Mary says “See ya”
Little did you know it was “Made in Korea”
Curious George
February 21st, 2013
10:21 am
Once 0bamaCare comes full online (GOD, Please Help Us.), would the Communist Chinese Government start to pity us for our inferior healthcare system?
TaxPayer
February 21st, 2013
10:21 am
Cons sure do love them Koch crooks. It’s really no surprise why once you get to know a little about the Kochs.
Kamchak ~Thug from the Steppes
February 21st, 2013
10:21 am
WTF?
I reload this page on Firefox and it automatically returns to the last post I entered. I reload on Chrome and it reloads to the previous place on the page just like usual.
Did the Chinese take over FF?
alex
February 21st, 2013
10:22 am
If the Chinese are hacking this column, they’re wasting their time….
@ Fred, Soros bought you….who elected the president. Political cyper warfare, …….creepy…
Keep Up the Good Fight!
February 21st, 2013
10:24 am
How many bayonets does it take to fight a Chinese hacker shutting down the electrical grid and the sewer treatment plants?
Reminds me of the old Bill Cosby routing about Noah (whats a cubit)…. God was going to make it rain for 1 thousand days, Noah suggested 40 days and nights and wait for the sewers to back up.
alittlecommonsense
February 21st, 2013
10:24 am
“Maybe I should download some Asian bondage porn that shows Chinese men getting humiliated. If you’re going to hack my pc, you may as well have something worth looking at”
Sure, Bro. Nice way to cover for the Asian bondage porn on your computer. Yeah, that’s it. It was for the Chinese hackers! No honey, I find it disgusting too! Really, I would never look at the stuff!
Cosby
February 21st, 2013
10:24 am
Hmm….yep the cold war is back in Cyber Space….but do not the chinese hold a lot of our increasing debt….does not GM (Government Motors) build more vehicles in china than the US, seems as if Apple manufactures most of their electronics in China…..Why are we afraid of china..thanks to the King – they own us and if we do not like it..they will use North Korea to nuke us!!
Happy Trails
Fred ™
February 21st, 2013
10:24 am
Dammmmmmmmmmnnnnnnnnnn
Did y’all see Luchovich today?
http://blogs.ajc.com/mike-luckovich/
Curious George
February 21st, 2013
10:25 am
Does the Chinese Government know how incompetent our TSA Airport Screeners are, do they just watch uploaded YouTube videos from the American flying populace?
Fred ™
February 21st, 2013
10:26 am
alex
February 21st, 2013
10:22 am
If the Chinese are hacking this column, they’re wasting their time….
@ Fred, Soros bought you….who elected the president. Political cyper warfare, …….creepy…
+++++++++++++++++++++
Woo Hoo. My other Stalker is here. I wonder if it’s two or just one with a sock puppet?
If I work harder, I’ll bet I can get three…………. then we can all get together for poker night or something.
Jefferson
February 21st, 2013
10:27 am
Their crooks are just as good as our crooks.
kayaker 71
February 21st, 2013
10:27 am
Funny about how things come around to bite you on the arse. In Apr, 2011, Bozo, in full campaign to look more presidential and imply that he was cutting spending, stated that he would veto any attempt to interfere with the sequestration involving cuts in defense and social programs.
And just this week, surrounded by a bunch of first responders, he goes 180 and states if we do pass the proposed sequestration, we will be laying off hundreds of teachers, those first responders standing behind him and provide cuts in military spending that we cannot afford to do. Which is it, Bozo?
Curious George
February 21st, 2013
10:27 am
Does The Patriot Act allow the Chinese Government to spy on each of us as well and as thoroughly as our own government does, or does China simply hack our federal servers and copy what spy info has already been collected on us?
St Simons - he-ne-ha
February 21st, 2013
10:28 am
(looking at picture) sure, anybody can spear fish with two hands, duh.
Can he do it one-handed without spilling his margaritta?
we use only the finest Zebco spears, so there fred
I concur on the SAS software. Its da bomb mon.
Fred ™
February 21st, 2013
10:29 am
Cosby
February 21st, 2013
10:24 am
Hmm….yep the cold war is back in Cyber Space….but do not the chinese hold a lot of our increasing debt….does not GM (Government Motors) build more vehicles in china than the US, seems as if Apple manufactures most of their electronics in China…..Why are we afraid of china..thanks to the King – they own us and if we do not like it..they will use North Korea to nuke us!!
Happy Trails
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Wow. I was wondering if it was too early to start drinking beer in preparation for the race. Thanks Cosby for showing me it is and what drinking too early in the morning does to you.
godless heathen - owner of many things he does not need
February 21st, 2013
10:29 am
How many laps today until Danica eats a wall in today’s race?
You giving over/under or do we have to pick the exact lap?
Logical Dude
February 21st, 2013
10:30 am
I wonder if the Chinese go by the rule “you can’t put it on the internet if it isn’t true”.
Boy, will THEY be confused.
Which is why I sometime post complete falsehoods to facebook / blogs.
(but usually warn people when I do)
DebbieDoRight - Minister Of Propaganda
February 21st, 2013
10:31 am
But it’s better to demonize those evil people who give money to support something that they believe in and, horrors……. make money at the same time…. lots of money. Eat your heart out, my dear.
k71 — How much money in TAXES have these manly men paid so that they good old U. S. of A. that they profess to love so much, can continue to do things like fund the military, fund the infrastructure and fund education?
And before you say, “They did all that they were legally told to do”, please think of all the VOLUNTEER military who willingly do MORE than what they’re “legally told to do; before you make that ridiculous statement.
Thanks!
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As Seen On Breibart
Obama’s Hidden Baby Mama!!
Her name is Wu Tang; she a slight, beautiful, strong willed Chinese woman that Obama met his senior year of college in New York. She worked for the Chinese Consulate and she and Obama used to party all night in Harlem at the Wong Fu China Restaurant (good meat real good).
She says it was love for her, but for him it was only about one day ruling the world. They had a child together, a little boy named Big Bawls Tang………
Curious George
February 21st, 2013
10:31 am
Would the Chinese allow the able-bodied 0bama Supporters we have in this country to perpetually siphon money off the government [mammaries] to support no-job-getting lifestyles of sleeping until noon and doing nothing but watching reruns of “The Bernie Mac Show” and NBA highlights each day?
Doggone/GA
February 21st, 2013
10:32 am
“Insurance is not a ponzi scheme”
Quite right. What it IS…is legalized gambling The insurance company bets you X amount of dollars you won’t have an accident for a year. If you don’t, they win and keep the money. If you do, they lose and pay the amount on your policy per it’s restrictions.
Brosephus™
February 21st, 2013
10:33 am
alittlecommonsense
Chinese women don’t have enough booty for a brother. If it’s for my enjoyment, it has to be “Big, Bouncing Black Badonkadonk #17″ as nothing less will do.
Jefferson
February 21st, 2013
10:34 am
When the uniformed hollar “Ponzi” very few even know who the man was, much less which of his schemes they are talking about. None lasted 75 years. Its a sign.
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
February 21st, 2013
10:34 am
Obama’s Hidden Baby Mama!!
Pete Domenici says, “What?”
keith
February 21st, 2013
10:35 am
obama says that if HIS sequester plan takes effect local first resonders will lose their jobs, so rabid obamabots, when did the federal govt start paying local first responders?
Look before I leap...
February 21st, 2013
10:35 am
“Of course it took all of 5 seconds to hack a Mac”
That of course would be a Mac Attack.
Joe Hussein Mama
February 21st, 2013
10:36 am
Brosephus — “Chinese women don’t have enough booty for a brother. If it’s for my enjoyment, it has to be “Big, Bouncing Black Badonkadonk #17″ as nothing less will do.”
I believe this gentleman’s word to be authoritative on the matter and I trust that no further discussion on the topic is warranted.
DownInAlbany
February 21st, 2013
10:37 am
kayaker 71
February 21st, 2013
10:27 am
Other subjects you’ll not find on this blog…
With Election Over, Obama Announces Medicare Cuts to Fund ObamaCare
GAO Report: Obama’s Policies ‘Not Sustainable’
Fred ™
February 21st, 2013
10:38 am
Brocephus said the code word:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=reTx5sqvVJ4
Joe Hussein Mama
February 21st, 2013
10:38 am
Jefferson — “When the uniformed hollar “Ponzi” very few even know who the man was, much less which of his schemes they are talking about. None lasted 75 years. Its a sign.”
Just an observation . . .
in 2021, Social Security will have been in operation longer than Bear Stearns was.
kayaker 71
February 21st, 2013
10:38 am
Debbie, 10:31,
So the Kochs ought to be paying more than the law says they should. I am sure, because of your belief in higher taxes and more government spending, that you send the IRS a little extra at tax time….. you know, just to make you feel better. If you want to get a big old hard on about who pays what, you are blaming the wrong people. Congress makes tax law in this country, or did, the last time I checked. And they could have changed the tax laws anytime in the last 50 or so years but have elected not to do so.
JamVet
February 21st, 2013
10:39 am
Does the Chinese Government know how incompetent our TSA Airport Screeners are…
BWAHAHAHAHAHAH!!!!!
George you are apparently NOT very curious at all!
Educate yourself and look up the shameful track record of their predecessors – the disgraceful Argenbright security (Atlanta based).
Criminals galore, staggering incompetency, before during and AFTER 9/11.
But hey, I forgot, the gub’mint can’t do anything right, huh?
Look before I leap...
February 21st, 2013
10:40 am
““Big, Bouncing Black Badonkadonk #17″
In other words..NeNe Leakes
Girl must been something fierce to watch when she was strippin.
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
February 21st, 2013
10:40 am
“COMPUTER RAID PEARL HARBOR …… THIS IS NO DRILL !”
Steve
February 21st, 2013
10:40 am
I’m really proud of you guys. Nobody has posted “Obozo” yet.
Brosephus™
February 21st, 2013
10:41 am
JHM
—————–
Fred
I figured that was common knowledge.
BOHICA
February 21st, 2013
10:42 am
Jay,
I hate to quible, however, your argument that since we also conduct cyberwarfare makes us equally guilty as the Chinese is not an argument that holds water. It reminds me of that “false equivalence” argument that some journalist engage in to be seen as “objective”. I think that we would have heard from private experts in the field of cyber security if the US was conducting unethical activities in this regard. The evidence of Chinese abuse in this overwhelming and we need to call a Spade a Spade.
The Chinese want to dominate any and all economic competitors any way they can.
I don’t think that our attempts to slow the Iranians down using cyberwarfare (STUXNET) was a bad thing.
ps. forgive me if i implied somehow that you were trying to be “objective”!
DebbieDoRight - Minister Of Propaganda
February 21st, 2013
10:42 am
In Apr, 2011, Bozo, in full campaign to look more presidential and imply that he was cutting spending, stated that he would veto any attempt to interfere with the sequestration involving cuts in defense and social programs.
OMG do you people ever actually try to find out the truth for yourselves? Or do you just repeat, in perfect puppet style, everything you hear on Faux News?!?
take the hand outta your butt and think for your self!
NOBODYYOUKNOW
February 21st, 2013
10:43 am
The Chinese are more interested in what we’re thinking and doing than the administation in Washington.
Brosephus™
February 21st, 2013
10:43 am
Look
LMAO!!!!
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
February 21st, 2013
10:43 am
“In other words, while everybody is a victim in this thing, everybody is also a villain. Nobody’s clean.”
Typical comment as liberals have trouble distinguishing freedom loving countries from despotic ones, the FBI from the Mafia, good citizens with guns vs. criminals with guns, UGA from Ga. Tech, etc., etc,. etc.
Latrina
February 21st, 2013
10:44 am
This computer hacking, cyberspying etc. is becoming rampant at the same time we’re being aggressively pushed to conduct business transactions online. Some of the outfits I deal with are even offering to pay me $ to switch from mail to online billing.
Say what you will about the Postal Service, first class mail is a lot safer than cyberspace.
St Simons - he-ne-ha
February 21st, 2013
10:44 am
Bro, same with my kind.
I’m pretty sure the lyrics are not “i like flat butts and i cannot lie”
I mean, an entire song can’t be wrong.
Paul
February 21st, 2013
10:44 am
Lots of factors at work here. One may be simply to try to understand us. But to what end that understanding will be put is open to question.
Another is their obsession with information, any information, all information. It’s a hallmark of a paranoid leadership within autocratic governments. China’s interesting – trying to loosen economic freedom, which leads to a loss of control, which leads to greater efforts to monitor and control. Just because it’s widespread and covers many facets does not mean it’s indiscriminate.
But the real question is, to what end is that knowledge used? There was this Chinese guy born a couple thousand years ago. Chinese revere him. Nearly every modern military person in a responsible position is at least marginally familiar with his works. Graduate courses in business study him. Sun Tzu. Wrote “The Art of War.” It’s pretty short, but one can spend weeks studying and applying a few sentences. Chapter 13, “The Use of Spies’ states:
“…Hostile armies may face each other for years, striving for the victory which is decided in a single day. This being so, to remain in ignorance of the enemy’s condition simply because one grudges the outlay of a hundred ounces of silver in honors and emoluments, is the height of inhumanity…what enables the wise sovereign and the good general to strike and conquer, and achieve things beyond the reach of ordinary men, is FOREKNOWLEDGE. Now this foreknowledge cannot be elicited from spirits; it cannot be obtained inductively from experience, nor by any deductive calculation. Knowledge of the enemy’s dispositions can only be obtained from other men…Without subtle ingenuity of mind, one cannot make certain of the truth of their reports. Be subtle! be subtle! and use your spies for every kind of business…The end and aim of spying in all its five varieties is knowledge of the enemy…”
AmericaShrugged
February 21st, 2013
10:44 am
Weapons, plenty of ammo, and canned food. When the grid goes down your cash ain’t nothin but trash.
Brosephus™
February 21st, 2013
10:46 am
DDR
Based on that sentence, I AM NOT clicking that link…
Joe Hussein Mama
February 21st, 2013
10:46 am
JamVet — “Educate yourself and look up the shameful track record of their predecessors – the disgraceful Argenbright security (Atlanta based).”
You know, this is the second time this week one of our cons has screeched out some piffle about how fantastic a job privut industree could do with airport security, as if they’ve completely forgotten that Argenbright went zero-for-nineteen on 9/11.
Wonder which con screamer got them started on the topic?
Erwin's cat
February 21st, 2013
10:46 am
Sun Tzu. Wrote “The Art of War.
a good read
Look before I leap...
February 21st, 2013
10:46 am
“Weapons, plenty of ammo, and canned food. When the grid goes down your cash ain’t nothin but trash.”
In other words, gold, guns and goobers.
Fred ™
February 21st, 2013
10:46 am
Not exactly right Steve but maybe on a technicality……..
Kayaker@ 10:27: In Apr, 2011, Bozo, in full campaign………..
Joe Hussein Mama
February 21st, 2013
10:48 am
0311 — “good citizens with guns vs. criminals with guns”
I don’t care who you are or what your motives are. If you whip out a piece and start trading fire with a bad guy and you hit me or my wife, you’re a bad guy to me and I’ll sue the living spit out of you.
Keep Up the Good Fight!
February 21st, 2013
10:49 am
Paul, good post. Knowing the weaknesses in the supply systems, the secrets hidden by certain officials and other information may be as critical as knowing how many tanks.
Steve
February 21st, 2013
10:51 am
I’m not sure that guns and ammo will help you for very long unless you’re living in a bunker filled with food. Others with guns and ammo will eventually get you.
Redneck Convert (R--and proud of it)
February 21st, 2013
10:51 am
Some of the outfits I deal with are even offering to pay me $ to switch from mail to online billing.
Well, I turn every one of them down. If they’re going to bill me they’re going to have to pay for a stamp just like I do. And I ain’t letting them raid my checking account whenever they feel like it. And if they owe me money they’re going to have to pay to send it to me. I ain’t letting them hold onto my money till the very last minute so they can keep earning interest on it. And I don’t plan on being a slave to a computer to know when I need to pay a bill.
And finally, GET OFF OF MY DAMN*D LAWN!
Partisay
February 21st, 2013
10:53 am
kayaker 71 – “But it’s better to demonize those evil people who give money to support something that they believe in and, horrors……. make money at the same time…. lots of money.”
So I take it you have no problem with Soros? After all, I’m sure he believes in what he gives money for.
td
February 21st, 2013
10:53 am
If you want to think about something scary then look no further at how the Democratic party (example purpose only not attempting to slur because both parties will do this by 2016) used data mining and person specific marketing to get maximize voter turnout last year. The party was able to gather enough individual data on people to determine if the person was a potential voter and then gathered enough information of the person to be able to specifically market (brainwash) that person to think they were on the exact same mindset as Obama.
Fred ™
February 21st, 2013
10:53 am
Say what you will about the Postal Service, first class mail is a lot safer than cyberspace.
Until Billy Bob in his station wagon drives down your street stealing everything out of the mailboxes………..
TaxPayer
February 21st, 2013
10:54 am
Republicans do not want to lay claim to the current sequester legislation that they signed off on because in reality they want much deeper spending cuts that include Medicaid, Medicare, Social Security and Veteran’s benefits along with increases military spending and tax cuts for the wealthiest. Now THAT is the sequester that they want and are holding out for.
DebbieDoRight - Minister Of Propaganda
February 21st, 2013
10:54 am
Chinese women don’t have enough booty for a brother. If it’s for my enjoyment, it has to be “Big, Bouncing Black Badonkadonk #17″ as nothing less will do
Bro — It’s his white half that found her fine. Don’t hate.
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Fred — Great Baby Got Back Shout out!! You go boy!
Turn around stick it out, even white boys got to shout!
LA face with an Oakland booty!
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k71 — To those much is given, much is expected.
“And again I say unto you, It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle, than for a rich man to enter into the kingdom of God.” — Matthew 19:24
Granny Godzilla
February 21st, 2013
10:54 am
Ni Hao Hu,
can you get me the recipe for the lobster salad from the Kowloon side of Hong Kong?
Thanks, I’d appreciate it.
Logical Dude
February 21st, 2013
10:54 am
Private Security firm: yep, Chinese do a lot of hacking (not coughing)
http://news.yahoo.com/private-us-firms-major-role-vs-cyberattacks-130657582–finance.html
Kamchak ~Thug from the Steppes
February 21st, 2013
10:55 am
…specifically market (brainwash) that person to think…
Dittoheads say, “What?”
Granny Godzilla
February 21st, 2013
10:56 am
td
Brainwash?
I suspect yours could use a shampoo and rinse.
Union
February 21st, 2013
10:56 am
as long as its done with taste..
http://www.rollingstone.com/music/news/computer-virus-might-be-blasting-ac-dc-in-iranian-nuclear-facility-20120725
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
February 21st, 2013
10:57 am
“Mommy”
I don’t care who you are or what your motives are. If you’re driving a car and you hit me or my wife you’re a bad guy to me and I’ll sue the living spit out of you.
Partisay
February 21st, 2013
10:58 am
kayaker 71 – ” If you want to get a big old hard on about who pays what, you are blaming the wrong people.”
A comment like that to Debbie? Dude, show a little class. Jeez….
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
February 21st, 2013
10:58 am
“Mommy”
“Among the many misdeeds of British rule in India, history will look
upon the Act depriving a whole nation of arms as the blackest.”
Mohandas Gandhi, an Autobiography, page 446.
Erwin's cat
February 21st, 2013
10:59 am
as long as its done with taste..
a whole rot of Losie?
Moderate Line
February 21st, 2013
10:59 am
Here is a good link on the opinion of the American people. I suspect that the sequester would hit the Republicans harder than Dems and this poll would seem to indicated this.
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2013/02/21/poll-pew-obama-gop-guns-energy-immigration-sequester/1934233/
barking frog
February 21st, 2013
10:59 am
Well from 1964 to 1968 I was involved in hacking
the voice communications of the Russian and later
the Vietnamese military for the US Air Force
and their client NSA. We were good and so were
they and we also hacked everyone else in all ways.
Probably the same now.
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
February 21st, 2013
11:00 am
BOHICA @ 10:42
You hit the nail on the head !
Brosephus™
February 21st, 2013
11:01 am
St Simons
Mixx-A-Lot is a very wise man.
alex
February 21st, 2013
11:01 am
@ Paul , a course offering in “the great courses” is about Sun Tzu,exclusivley, another discusses him along with other strategic warfare-thinkers (Mahan,Machiavelli, etc.) Interesting how 2000 year old thoughts apply to today, ….Great post….Creepy…
Generation EBTer
February 21st, 2013
11:01 am
As long as I get my free sh*t from ‘bama who cares, suckers?
That Black Guy
February 21st, 2013
11:02 am
Brosephus™
February 21st, 2013
9:29 am
Maybe I should download some Asian bondage porn that shows Chinese men getting humiliated. If you’re going to hack my pc, you may as well have something worth looking at.
________________________________
So, you don’t think your collection of peanutbutter covered nekkid Samoans participating in a frozen monkey nipple tossing contest would do it?
You know, the file you got from Fred.
Paul
February 21st, 2013
11:03 am
“So the Kochs ought to be paying more than the law says they should. I am sure, because of your belief in higher taxes and more government spending, that you send the IRS a little extra at tax time….. you know, just to make you feel better. If you want to get a big old hard on about who pays what, you are blaming the wrong people. Congress makes tax law in this country, or did, the last time I checked. And they could have changed the tax laws anytime in the last 50 or so years but have elected not to do so.”
kayaker 71, that pretty much parallels what Sinkwich said yesterday about corporations when I asked him if he was fine that corporations that make billions, in fact get taxpayer subsidies (Facebooks’s on par with Solyndra) pay zero federal income tax. He said it didn’t bother him a bit, repeated what you said about not paying more than legally required, etc.
But I asked Sinkwich a followup, which he ducked. I’m hoping you’ll address it.
Given your response, are you also ‘fine’ that 47% of Americans pay no federal income tax? Because they shouldn’t pay more than is legally required? Because Congress made the laws and these people are obeying them? You’re fine if a corporation with profits of over a billion a year pays no tax and gets taxpayer assistance, you feel the same when it’s a single mom earning $25,000 a year, right?
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
February 21st, 2013
11:03 am
“Mommy”
This may be more on your level than Ghandi.
“There are no dangerous Weapons,only dangerous Men”.
from the novel – Starship Troopers
Moderate Line
February 21st, 2013
11:04 am
In other words, while everybody is a victim in this thing, everybody is also a villain. Nobody’s clean.
+++++
Good point. I wondering if companies are going to locate or form partnerships with countries willing to engage or tolerate cyber spying.
It’s a new world.
Moderate Line
February 21st, 2013
11:05 am
This is very Machiavellian.
Fred ™
February 21st, 2013
11:06 am
Dang, don’t no one wanna play hooky from work and watch the race…………..
DebbieDoRight - Minister Of Propaganda
February 21st, 2013
11:07 am
And I ain’t letting them raid my checking account whenever they feel like it. And if they owe me money they’re going to have to pay to send it to me. I ain’t letting them hold onto my money till the very last minute so they can keep earning interest on it.
I’m with you on that one RC!
For some reason, no one knows why, it takes a company 20 seconds to take money from you that they feel you owe them, (via having your banking information); but if they’re wrong OR if they owe YOU money, it takes them 2 weeks to put the money back in your account.
“There’s an old saying in Tennessee — I know it’s in Texas, probably in Tennessee — that says, fool me once, shame on — shame on you. Fool me — you can’t get fooled again.”
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As Seen On Breibart
Michelle Obama’s Secret Love!
Little is know about the when and why, but what IS known is that Michelle Obama is secretly carrying on an affair with Anne Coulter.
Recently Anne’s diary has been found, (the liberal illegal mexican maid stole it); in it she detailed the sexual exploits of her and Michelle’s trysts.
The information is too shocking to post here — but we WILL have a link that you can go to, (with re enactments by Vannessa Blue and Jessie Jane), after midnight.
We were shocked, (and amazingly aroused), by what we read! What is the world coming to?
Erwin's cat
February 21st, 2013
11:08 am
Dang, don’t no one wanna play hooky from work and watch the race…
Not a big NAPCAR fan but, are they streaming it anywhere?
Joe Hussein Mama
February 21st, 2013
11:08 am
“Coward” — “I don’t care who you are or what your motives are. If you’re driving a car and you hit me or my wife you’re a bad guy to me and I’ll sue the living spit out of you.”
Fortunately, cars have lots of uses that don’t involve shooting bad guys, whereas shooting bad guys seems to be one of the primary reasons the NRA wants folks to have them. You even alluded to it yourself in trying to distinguish good people with guns from bad people with guns.
If you have a gun and you shoot my or my wife — even accidentally — then you are not a good person to me. Case closed.
“Coward” — ““Among the many misdeeds of British rule in India, history will look
upon the Act depriving a whole nation of arms as the blackest.”
What’s that got to do with NRA yahoos conceivably being bad shots and accidentally plugging innocent bystanders?
Your ignorant posting of that quote might have some currency if I’d ever argued for depriving an entire nation of their firearms, which I haven’t and wouldn’t do. It’s pretty clear to me that you’re completely ignorant of my position on the issue.
Of course, that’s par for the course on your side. Just make spit up and attribute it to your opponents. Maybe some of it will stick.
Saves you the trouble of actually having to listen and pay attention.
Brosephus™
February 21st, 2013
11:08 am
TBG
Shhhhhhhhhhhh!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Everybody will be asking me to make copies for them if they find out that I have the entire DVD set that includes the behind-the-scenes footage.
td
February 21st, 2013
11:08 am
Illinois state senator pushes anti-anonymity bill
“A recently introduced bill in the Illinois state Senate would require anonymous website comment posters to reveal their identities if they want to keep their comments online.
The bill, called the Internet Posting Removal Act, is sponsored by Illinois state Sen. Ira Silverstein. It states that a “web site administrator upon request shall remove any comments posted on his or her web site by an anonymous poster unless the anonymous poster agrees to attach his or her name to the post and confirms that his or her IP address, legal name, and home address are accurate.”
The bill, which does not ask for or clarify requirements from entities requesting the comment removal, would take effect 90 days after becoming law.
Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2013/02/21/illinois-state-senator-pushes-anti-anonymity-bill/#ixzz2LYBkNOvV
JamVet
February 21st, 2013
11:09 am
JHM, I know it that it is very fashionable among the more fanatical of the right wing extremists to loathe pretty much everything about our country’s government of the people, by the people and for the people.
But to what end?
States rights?
Secession?
A free ride?
I remember when the GOP used to pride itself for it’s patriotism and respect, even reverence for Uncle Sam.
Now?
You tell me, because I don’t see it…
Joe Hussein Mama
February 21st, 2013
11:10 am
“Coward” — ““Mommy” This may be more on your level than Ghandi.”
It’s pretty clear that *Gandhi* isn’t on *your* level, since you can’t spell his name correctly.
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
February 21st, 2013
11:13 am
Headline: “Pistorius bail hearing in chaos as lead detective removed from case”
O.J. would be proud !
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
February 21st, 2013
11:15 am
Boy did I get “Mommy” riled up !
LOL !!!
DebbieDoRight - Minister Of Propaganda
February 21st, 2013
11:15 am
US Air Force
and their client NSA
Hmmm so you used to work for the Crystal Palace huh? You’re not as laid back as you pretend to be.
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But I asked Sinkwich a followup, which he ducked. I’m hoping you’ll address it.
Heh. heh. heh…… this is gonna be good…..
Paul
February 21st, 2013
11:16 am
Hi DebbieDoRIght!
I have to duck out for a bit. If kayaker 71 returns, would you please repeat my 11:03 for him? Same for Sinkwich. I just can’t for the life of me understand why it’s so difficult to get a simple answer to a simple question.
Thanks much!
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
February 21st, 2013
11:16 am
Anything to keep him/her busy typing.
Tundra Dude
February 21st, 2013
11:17 am
JB:
In fact, some of that expanded operation may be headquartered right here in Georgia, at Fort Gordon outside Augusta.
Seems to me, the politically smart thing to do is locate these (few thousand?) jobs in swing states, those lite red or blue. I nominate Ohio, Va., or Fla.
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
February 21st, 2013
11:17 am
Off to the dog park. Everyone be nice and get outside ………. it’s a beautiful day !!
getalife
February 21st, 2013
11:21 am
Hi China.
Keep loaning us that money.
Have a nice day.
DebbieDoRight - Minister Of Propaganda
February 21st, 2013
11:22 am
I remember when the GOP used to pride itself for it’s patriotism and respect, even reverence for Uncle Sam.
“Money changes everything”. The Boss. Wise man.
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Mr. Numbers, since you’re here today, I wanted to know if you’ve seen/heard about this and what’s your comment on it.
I’m kinda on the fence about the issue. But I know you feel very strongly about it and wanted your input.
TBone
February 21st, 2013
11:24 am
Maybe the chicoms aren’t satisfied with the return on all of that money the US keeps borrowing from them to support all the gov’t crap and inefficiency that we cannot live without cause we’d die within days. Now they just hack on through our “security” systems to take a peak around to see what they want to cherry pick. This country is being run by rank amateurs.
DebbieDoRight - Minister Of Propaganda
February 21st, 2013
11:26 am
Hiya Paul! Will do! As a matter of fact, I’ll be extremely happy to do it!! As a matter of fact, if i happen to step out and miss them myself, I’ll make SURE to hunt them down if necessary and repeat verbatim everything that you said.
This is gonna be good!!!
Mick
February 21st, 2013
11:28 am
Here’s what I don’t get; if it’s so dangerous to be linked up, why don’t sensitive systems just stay off the internets?
Fred ™
February 21st, 2013
11:32 am
DDR: What’s to be on the fence about? How can you FORCE a woman (or girl) tohave an abortion?
Fred ™
February 21st, 2013
11:33 am
Brocephus? Did you tell TBG about the “collection?” Don’t you know what “on the down low” means?
Kamchak ~Thug from the Steppes
February 21st, 2013
11:33 am
Lawmaker wants to ban anonymous comments from Internet…
drudgey spam.
Fred ™
February 21st, 2013
11:33 am
Here’s what I don’t get; if it’s so dangerous to be linked up, why don’t sensitive systems just stay off the internets?
They do.
Joe Hussein Mama
February 21st, 2013
11:34 am
“Coward” — “Boy did I get “Mommy” riled up !
LOL !!!”
Right after I got *you* riled up, since you sent three unanswered posts in my direction (laughing, pointing)
Fred ™
February 21st, 2013
11:35 am
This country is being run by rank amateurs.
Yeah but the forking idiots who listen to Rushie and watch FOX keep electing those rank amateurs and sending them back to Congress. If we can get rid of that majority Republican Congress then the adults and pro’s can get things done.
Joe Hussein Mama
February 21st, 2013
11:36 am
“Coward” — “Anything to keep him/her busy typing.”
You, like Doom, seem to think that typing is some sort of time-consuming chore for me.
It’s not. (giggling)
Just because it is for you, don’t assume it’s the same for others.
Brosephus™
February 21st, 2013
11:37 am
Fred
I think he hacked my pc or something. I don’t remember telling him anything.
Joe Hussein Mama
February 21st, 2013
11:37 am
“Coward” — “Everyone be nice”
If you want nice, then give nice.
Otherwise, take a flying leap.
getalife
February 21st, 2013
11:38 am
President Obama is doing a great job and the polls show this fact.
Partisay
February 21st, 2013
11:39 am
Where’d Kayaker go? I’ve put off my lunch to wait on his response. I’m gettin hungry…
alex
February 21st, 2013
11:40 am
@ Moderate line;only as to inherint deception and narcissm
Anniston, AL home of the original "Freedom Riders Bombing"
February 21st, 2013
11:42 am
Anniston City Manager Don Hoyt plans to hire a new city attorney, an action he said is part of a movement for “change from the top” at City Hall.
Last week, Hoyt announced his intention to retire by the beginning of September, a recognition, he said, of the public’s cry for change during last fall’s elections.
“I felt like the folks out there wanted change from the top,” he said. “That included me and the city attorney.”
As part of this change, Hoyt notified the City Council on Feb. 11 of his decision to end the city’s relationship with Cleo Thomas, who had served as city attorney since 2009. The city put out requests for qualifications from prospective attorneys on Feb. 14. Hoyt added that Thomas was not an employee of the city and therefore was not fired. Instead, he billed the city for services rendered.
Attempts to reach Thomas on Tuesday were unsuccessful.
Thomas, a longtime Anniston resident and Harvard Law School graduate, is a former member of the University of Alabama board of trustees, and in 1976 became that school’s first black president of the Student Government Association. He also was the first black member of the Anniston Country Club, joining in 1993.
http://www.annistonstar.com/view/full_story/21761594/article-Anniston-City-Council-seeking-new-city-attorney?
Look before I leap...
February 21st, 2013
11:42 am
“Don’t you know what “on the down low” means?”
@Fred
I don’t think the current connotation of “being on the down low” means what you think it does.
TBone
February 21st, 2013
11:43 am
Yeah but the forking idiots who listen to Rushie and watch FOX keep electing those rank amateurs and sending them back to Congress. If we can get rid of that majority Republican Congress then the adults and pro’s can get things done.
You are truly delusional if you want to lay blame for the problems we face on one party or the other or TV and radio programs. Way to keep things objective.
Generation EBTer
February 21st, 2013
11:43 am
Make no mistake, It’s not just Uncle Sam. Don’t forget Daddy Sam,Grandpappy Sam, Brother Sam, Sister Sam, Cousin Sam & if
I failed to mention anyone…
Paul
February 21st, 2013
11:45 am
getalife
Some of these Republicans remind me of an episode from high school. About 300 students in the class, had an election for homecoming queen, one of the girl’s moms who wasn’t elected went to the principal and carried on about how her daughter was so pretty, so popular, so smart, there was NO WAY she wasn’t elected. The voting was rigged. There was a conspiracy. On and on. Finally the principal went to the safe (yep, it was a big deal), pulled out the ballots – and mom found her darling daughter that everyone really, really loved… got a dozen votes.
And that’s what I think of when I think of today’s complaining Republicans.
kayaker 71
February 21st, 2013
11:48 am
Debbie, 10:42,
And you really believe all of this Bozo bullsh*t that he goes around flaunting to his heart’s content. He has lied to the American electorate more than anyone since FDR yet, somehow, the manipulation of the facts seems to trump reality. He has one thing in mind, more money from the wealthy, which he thinks will solve all of our financial woes. Doesn’t solve the problems but it sure helps to get politicians re-elected. This clown would do anything, say anything, true or not, to further his agenda. If you believe most anything that he has to say, your intelligence takes on a whole new meaning. No, Debbie, I don’t believe him and no thinking American does.
getalife
February 21st, 2013
11:48 am
It is sad to see China’s government move sp quickly to keep their government growing but we can’t because of the gop.
China does not inflect self inflicted wounds to our economy like our gop.
They have unity and patriotism.
They are invested in green energy to combat the pollution.
They have brand new infrastructure and high speed trains.
They are kicking our buts and no longer need to steal data because the jobs moved there.
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
February 21st, 2013
11:49 am
This clown would do anything, say anything, true or not, to further his agenda.
The smoking gun is the mushroom cloud.
We will be greeted as liberators.
getalife
February 21st, 2013
11:53 am
Paul,
That was a nice way to put it
Doggone/GA
February 21st, 2013
11:54 am
“They do”
Or they think they do. Read “The Cuckoo’s Egg” sometime. Even though it was published in 1989 it still has a lot of eye-opening information.
alex
February 21st, 2013
11:56 am
@getalife;how can opinion polls prove that someone is doing a great job?…Answer, they can’t..he may be doing a great job ( doubt “great”, mabye good to many people), but a “poll” is not proof of that.
obamaSINLADEN
February 21st, 2013
11:57 am
so do da us gubmint
Joe Hussein Mama
February 21st, 2013
11:57 am
K71 — “No, Debbie, I don’t believe him and no thinking American does.”
Well, if that’s what you think, then why do you come here at all?
You know what kind of discussion you’re going to get here, so why go to the trouble if you’re that upset about it?
That Black Guy
February 21st, 2013
11:59 am
Partisay
February 21st, 2013
10:53 am
kayaker 71 – “But it’s better to demonize those evil people who give money to support something that they believe in and, horrors……. make money at the same time…. lots of money.”
So I take it you have no problem with Soros? After all, I’m sure he believes in what he gives money for.
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But Soros doesn’t “produce” anything except more money, just like Buffet (sp?). Isn’t that one of the things we HATE about investment bankers? What’s the diff between them and Jamie Dimon?
n
February 21st, 2013
12:00 pm
The Chinese already have all our money. They have all our technology because we gave it to them so they could manufacture everything we consume.
They don’t need us anymore.
The only thing that saves us from them zapping us at will is they have no reason to subjugate a population that’s shallow, lazy, ignorant, useless and spends all it’s time/energy/attention watching porn, football, computer games, Honey Boo Boo and collecting/caressing assault weapons.
Doggone/GA
February 21st, 2013
12:02 pm
“The Chinese already have all our money”
Don’t know much about the fiscal relationship between us and China, do you?
Peadawg
February 21st, 2013
12:03 pm
“The only thing that saves us from them zapping us at will is they have no reason to subjugate a population that’s shallow, lazy, ignorant, useless and spends all it’s time/energy/attention watching porn, football, computer games, Honey Boo Boo and collecting/caressing assault weapons.”
And the fact that we keep borrowing a crap-ton of money from them.
alex
February 21st, 2013
12:03 pm
@ Paul you could have stopped after Sun Tzu, the “high school” analogy suggests more about your biased cerebral cortex than anything about political life-back to narcissm (machavielli)
keith
February 21st, 2013
12:04 pm
President Obama is doing a great job and the polls show this fact.
WRONG! If 0 was doing a great job the polls would be showing 60 percent plus approval. hes barely over 50. he is mediocre at best,. the only reason anyone approves of him is because he makes us pay your bills.
Joe Hussein Mama
February 21st, 2013
12:05 pm
Doggone — “Don’t know much about the fiscal relationship between us and China, do you?”
Let’s just hope that China doesn’t sell their future cash flows to J.B. Wentworth.
You know, the 877-CASH-NOW people.
Doggone/GA
February 21st, 2013
12:06 pm
“Paul you could have stopped after Sun Tzu, the “high school” analogy suggests more about your biased cerebral cortex than anything about political life-back to narcissm (machavielli)”
And, of course, YOURS is completely, totally, and inarguably non-biased in every way…right?
getalife
February 21st, 2013
12:06 pm
alex,
After the w disaster, there was nowhere to go but up.
The majority gave up on government but gave it one last chance by electing the new guy.
keith
February 21st, 2013
12:08 pm
why is 0 lying about first responders getting cut if FEDERAL spending is cut? fear mongering his base because he knows how stupid you are jay.
Partisay
February 21st, 2013
12:08 pm
I’m hungry, and extremely disappointed. Kayaker comes back but fails to address Paul’s 11:03 post. Just like Sinkwich yesterday. Instead he just called the President (or Bozo, as he calls him…classy) a liar – ” He has lied to the American electorate more than anyone since FDR.”
Wow. Maybe he missed it. In case he did….
“But I asked Sinkwich a followup, which he ducked. I’m hoping you’ll address it.
Given your response, are you also ‘fine’ that 47% of Americans pay no federal income tax? Because they shouldn’t pay more than is legally required? Because Congress made the laws and these people are obeying them? You’re fine if a corporation with profits of over a billion a year pays no tax and gets taxpayer assistance, you feel the same when it’s a single mom earning $25,000 a year, right?”
How about it Kayaker? You satisfied on those not paying taxes? Since you made a big fuss out of debbie’s deal with the Koch bros and taxes and all…..
indigo
February 21st, 2013
12:09 pm
Let’s just hope our hackers are the best in the business.
getalife
February 21st, 2013
12:10 pm
China needs us and we need them.
They are our trading partners and not the enemy.
The enemy is aq and they are pretty much running for cover and running out of places to run.
Kamchak ~Thug from the Steppes
February 21st, 2013
12:10 pm
“Help, my cerebral cortex is biased and I can’t get up!”
– Thomas “Life Alert” Jefferson
alex
February 21st, 2013
12:10 pm
@that black guy;don’t start ups benefit from hedge funds?
n
February 21st, 2013
12:11 pm
“You also agree that we, and anyone authorized by us, may identify you as the author of any of your postings by name, email address or screen name, as we or they deem appropriate.
“From AJC user agreement.
A disincentive for registering when Jay’s blog migrates.
“Anyone” may not necessarily like what you write about them and let the PTB here know it.
There is a certain freedom to speak in anonymity. Some have abused it, of course; but on the whole it is a good thing for the citizenry, IMO..
keith
February 21st, 2013
12:12 pm
China needs us and we need them.
They are our trading partners and not the enemy.
The enemy is aq and they are pretty much running for cover and running out of places to run.
yea right. they are communists like you so of course you defend china. you AND them are enemies of this country.
getalife
February 21st, 2013
12:13 pm
keith,
You need to see a doctor about your ods.
Jefferson
February 21st, 2013
12:14 pm
keith is full.
F. Sinkwich
February 21st, 2013
12:14 pm
If we really wanted to screw with China we’d send them our liberals.
In short order they’d be so effed up they’d cease to function.
getalife
February 21st, 2013
12:14 pm
China has all our jobs so they can hack locally.
keith
February 21st, 2013
12:14 pm
0 is using first responders just like he uses children for political gain. to hell with the truth. no first responders will be cut if FEDERAL spending is cut. only the dumbest believe that. and that is 0s supporters, he knows how dumb you are.
Paul
February 21st, 2013
12:14 pm
alex
Was just an observation about how some people can’t understand how a majority can’t be in love with the same thing they are. Be it a mom or a politician or an advisor, disconnects happen at all levels. Those who succeed recognize it, modify themselves, then reengage. Those who continue to struggle maintain the belief system everyone else is too dim to see what’s so plain.
Different analogies work for different people. We have a broad readership on this blog.
Now, I’m off. ttyl -
alex
February 21st, 2013
12:15 pm
@ Doggone, for the record:no, absolutely no… Just less biased than you and kam and jam and paul and CC and Granny and most people (mabye not josef) on this blog…..
getalife
February 21st, 2013
12:15 pm
keith,
You need to see a doctor ASAP.
Ask for atavan. It will make you happy.
keith
February 21st, 2013
12:15 pm
radical leftwing buffoons siding with communists against OUR country.
Fred ™
February 21st, 2013
12:15 pm
@ Moderate line;only as to inherint deception and narcissm
You should stick with words you know what the meaning is and how to spell alex. That would probably be mono-syllabic words of 6 letters or less.
Fred ™
February 21st, 2013
12:17 pm
the only reason anyone approves of him is because he makes us pay your bills.
You don’t make enough money to pay my bills son.
keith
February 21st, 2013
12:18 pm
obama granted another hard core interview. toughest question: where will your presidential library be located? he had a very difficult time with that one. Hawaii is so far away and chicago is full of gangbanger thugs that will rape and rob visitors. so he picked chicago so his friends can make money of their victims.
alex
February 21st, 2013
12:18 pm
@ Paul, got it, a great example is little league baseball:’ Hey Coach, put my son at SS…” Yada,yada..
DebbieDoRight - Minister Of Propaganda
February 21st, 2013
12:18 pm
Had to step out for a minute! Back now –
Fred: DDR: What’s to be on the fence about? How can you FORCE a woman (or girl) tohave an abortion?
I’m on the fence because:
YES its true that she can’t /shouldn’t be forced to abort however she IS a teenager and the full load of the child she brings into the world, if she decides to keep it, will be on the parents, NOT her.
YES she has the right to have her baby. Freedom of Choice is not just the right to have an abortion but also the right NOT to have an abortion.
NO she’s a minor — she’s not legally able to enter into a contract and in some states, her parents are liable for all her mistakes, (eg: if she breaks the neighbors window her parents would have to pay). Looking at it from that perspective I can see why her parents didn’t want the added burden of a baby.
Babies are expensive. If the family is already under financial strain, the last thing they’d want is an additional strain of providing for another mouth to feed.
NO if she’s “grown enough” to sue her parents, then she should be “grown enough” to take care of that child on her own. WHY should the parents have to pay for her mistakes? She could’ve went to court to become an EMANCIPATED minor, instead she chose to bring up this “They want me to abort” defense. Its as if this whole thing is contrived and she set up her parents to be on the hook for her mistake for years to come.
NO a car and a cell phone is NOT A RIGHT; its a privileged. So what if her parents took them from her? That’s what parents do when they punish you for your bad behavior. And, let’s not get it twisted, what she did was part of irresponsible, and BAD behavior. This is 2013 — even if she knows nothing of / or had no way of getting conventional means of birth control; condoms come 3/pack at every local Quik Trip.
YES I know that once the baby comes, (or rather i HOPE that once the baby comes), the parents minds will change and their “advocating”, (not forcing), for an abortion will be a moot point; however I feel that the daughter intentionally put them in the role of the “bad guy” just to get her way.
I’m trying to get the transcripts of the case soon as it comes out, (It’ll be in FindLaw); then I can be a better judge of each participants’ demeanor and statements; so for now….
………….I’m still on the fence!!
Doggone/GA
February 21st, 2013
12:18 pm
“Let’s just hope that China doesn’t sell their future cash flows to J.B. Wentworth”
Wouldn’t make any difference to us! The Chinese would get some fraction of what we owe, and we’d be paying JG instead of China.
getalife
February 21st, 2013
12:18 pm
keith,
China does not have a gop or partisan gridlock.
They have the advantage and it is common knowledge.
Matti
February 21st, 2013
12:19 pm
If they’re hacking MY online activity, I guess they know that I love me some Tom Yum soup, then.
Partisay
February 21st, 2013
12:19 pm
That black guy…I can’t quote how many jobs are created or sustained by Buffett or by Soros for that matter. But I bet it’s more than a couple.
keith
February 21st, 2013
12:20 pm
You don’t make enough money to pay my bills son.
the govt is going broke trying to support you boy.
Doggone/GA
February 21st, 2013
12:20 pm
“Just less biased than you ”
That rated WAY, WAY beyond a chuckle…that’s belly laugh territory!
keith
February 21st, 2013
12:22 pm
without gop gridlock 0 wouldve sold the white house to china by now. it would be called the red house by now.
getalife
February 21st, 2013
12:22 pm
Tick, tick, tick.
Fred ™
February 21st, 2013
12:22 pm
Will someone show me the loan papers the US signed for China?
barking frog
February 21st, 2013
12:23 pm
DDR
about the young lady, you gotta admire her manipulation.
Fred ™
February 21st, 2013
12:23 pm
keith
February 21st, 2013
12:22 pm
without gop gridlock 0 wouldve sold the white house to china by now. it would be called the red house by now.
+++++++++++++++++++
Thanks keith for the reminder it’s after noon now and ok to drink………..
Fred ™
February 21st, 2013
12:24 pm
I like the mental giant who claims we gave China all our technology. If that’s the case, why don’t they have one of these?
http://onebigphoto.com/were-kind-of-a-big-deal/
Joe Hussein Mama
February 21st, 2013
12:24 pm
Doggone — “Wouldn’t make any difference to us! The Chinese would get some fraction of what we owe, and we’d be paying JG instead of China.”
Insofar as China holds a lot of our debt *now* and wouldn’t if they sold the cash flows, it’d make a lot of difference to us. Perhaps not economically, but I feel pretty strongly that China is actually *moderating* its words and behavior in order to continue benefiting from our indebtedness.
If China ever *did* decide to stop buying our debt, or even worse, to get rid of our debt, I’d be anticipating war with them in the near future.
keith
February 21st, 2013
12:25 pm
hes selling everything else to them. he gave A123 battery maker millions of our, not your, OUR money and now its a chinese company. yes, i am right, hes a sellout.
keith
February 21st, 2013
12:26 pm
you despise America. you would never admit it but you would love to trash the constitution and make 0 dictator for life.
getalife
February 21st, 2013
12:27 pm
Debbie,
They had the 16 year old father on cnn and he wants to have the baby and was shocked her parents decided not to have it.
I great episode of 16 and pregnant full of drama.
Fred ™
February 21st, 2013
12:28 pm
DDR: The way the law treats abortion these days, if the mom wants an abortion, it’s just some cells. If the mom wants to keep the baby, it’s a life and to take it would be murder. You notice that while abortions are legal, if someone murders a pregnant lady, they get charged with TWO counts of murder, not one.
kayaker 71
February 21st, 2013
12:29 pm
Paul, 11:03,
That mother who makes gets 25K/yr of our tax money produces absolutely nothing of worth. Koch employs nearly 70,000 people worldwide and supplies goods and services from it’s efforts which benefit much more than Koch Industries, not to mention providing jobs and all that goes with it. This is idiotic. Like comparing apples and oranges.
alex
February 21st, 2013
12:30 pm
Fred, your right I don’t know how to spell, as to the rest, you could not follow an unbiased thread even if you wanted to. Example for getalife, ativan is not spelled atavan, but their point is the idea, the exact spelling is unnecessary.
Sequestor….the GOP has handled much of this poorly, but to many people it appears that the president appears desparate (sp?). The GOP should continue to use these economic issues to keep deficeit reduction thru less spending in the minds of the 2014 voter. The presidents use of the bully pulpit is effective but may prove tiresome and he will ALSO be perceived as part of the problem…
keith
February 21st, 2013
12:30 pm
i have to do do something liberals know nothing about, work
getalife
February 21st, 2013
12:31 pm
kay,
The koch’s are doing well and do not need any help from government so why are they in politics?
Doggone/GA
February 21st, 2013
12:32 pm
“If China ever *did* decide to stop buying our debt, or even worse, to get rid of our debt, I’d be anticipating war with them in the near future”
Yes, I wouldn’t argue with that. My Mother used to worry, back when, about the Saudies buying land and buildings in the US. I said “What’s to worry?” They can’t vote, and they’ll still have to pay taxes…and the more they own the less likely they’d ever think of starting a war with us and having it all confiscated.
Brosephus™
February 21st, 2013
12:32 pm
why is 0 lying about first responders getting cut if FEDERAL spending is cut?
Why don’t you educate yourself to keep from sounding like an idiot? My employer has already started sending out the emails warning of furloughs and cuts, and we’re as first as responders can be. After the 1st, I’ll be advising creditors that their payments will be furloughed until Congress does their job. If I’m not getting paid, then they should not expect to either. I can’t just crap money like some people seem to be able to.
Fred ™
February 21st, 2013
12:33 pm
keith, put down the bottle and sleep it off.
Thomas Heyward Jr
February 21st, 2013
12:34 pm
Chinas hacked the whole dang elections of 2008 and 2012.
.
Hence the Marxist Murderer.
kayaker 71
February 21st, 2013
12:34 pm
They are in the game the same as that Chick Filet guy and many others like them. They are in the game because it is a free country for those with beliefs in something to back it up with cash to support a stand, a candidate or a movement of some kind. Why not? Liberals do it every day. We just don’t hear about it much.
Kamchak ~Thug from the Steppes
February 21st, 2013
12:34 pm
The GOP should continue to use these economic issues to keep deficeit[sic] reduction thru less spending in the minds of the 2014 voter.
Deficit?
Did someone try to mention deficit?
Which brings us to the economic level. The deficits that Bush ran up in the years in which the country was teetering on the verge of a serious recession had the beneficial effect of righting the economy. In that sense, deficits not only didn’t matter, but were a force for economic good.
Translation: IOKIYAR
Doggone/GA
February 21st, 2013
12:35 pm
“if someone murders a pregnant lady, they get charged with TWO counts of murder, not one.”
and we’ve discussed this ad nauseum. The law ASSUMES that the pregnancy is wanted and since it can’t be counted as “durable goods lost in a crime” – it’s included in the murder indictment.
getalife
February 21st, 2013
12:35 pm
keith had a meltdown.
If you don’t want a pol to payback for unlimited donations, fight to change the system.
Fred ™
February 21st, 2013
12:36 pm
alex: Try again when you are sober and can construct a coherent sentence. That last stuff you wrote doesn’t make a lick of sense. You must be talking to the voices in your head.
Fred ™
February 21st, 2013
12:38 pm
and we’ve discussed this ad nauseum. The law ASSUMES that the pregnancy is wanted and since it can’t be counted as “durable goods lost in a crime” – it’s included in the murder indictment.
So thank you for reenforcing my point. Although in this instance neither we nor the law has to assume a damn thing. The girl WANTS the child.
getalife
February 21st, 2013
12:38 pm
kay,
Fair enough.
Don’t hate the players, hate the game and fight to change it if you don’t like it like keith.
stevie ray
February 21st, 2013
12:39 pm
Doggone/GA
February 21st, 2013
12:32 pm
Seems to me the first impression China will have about how decisions are made here is that we may be more corrupt than them.
IMO this and our reliance on borrowed funds are the two most significant security risks we face. Next “war” will not be ground attack..
DebbieDoRight - Minister Of Propaganda
February 21st, 2013
12:40 pm
Frog: DDR
about the young lady, you gotta admire her manipulation.
Hiya Frog!! Yep. She’s a future lawyer in the making. If she can get out of high school and to a decent college; she should study law. She’s THAT damn good!
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radical
leftwingRIGHT WING TEA PARTYING buffoons siding with communists against OUR country.There! Fixed it for ya!!
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China has all our jobs so they can hack locally.
Ha! Good point! Really, really good point! They probably already had all the back door passcodes from the US’s “employees” and didn’t even need to HACK!
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Why I hate Kam 101:
Help, my cerebral cortex is biased and I can’t get up!”
– Thomas “Life Alert” Jefferson
Only he can come up with good stuff like that!! I’m going to start a rumor that Kam wears magic underwear! That’ll fix him.
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I’m hungry, and extremely disappointed. Kayaker comes back but fails to address Paul’s 11:03 post. Just like Sinkwich yesterday. Instead he just called the President (or Bozo, as he calls him…classy) a liar – ” He has lied to the American electorate more than anyone since FDR.”
Heh heh heh! I saw where he came in briefly, took a shot at me, saw that Paul was back on the blogs, and then he hauled azz out really quickly after that!!
That Paul! He kills them with kindness and LOGIC – its awesome watching him at work!
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WRONG! If 0 was doing a great job the polls would be showing 60 percent plus approval. hes barely over 50.
What’s the GOPs ratings? 25% or something like that…….
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K71: If you believe most anything that he has to say, your intelligence takes on a whole new meaning. No, Debbie, I don’t believe him and no thinking American does.
You don’t believei n evolution either, so what? I’m supposed to be impressed that YOU don’t believe something someone says?
HA!
комиссар (Occupation)
February 21st, 2013
12:40 pm
Well, lookie here:
http://www.nationalmemo.com/amid-tightening-senate-polls-georgia-republicans-seek-repeal-of-17th-amendment/#.USZOKQS0ugY.twitter
In the latest example of the GOP’s selective reverence for the Constitution, six Georgia Republicans are trying to end the election of U.S. senators by popular vote — just as a new poll shows that the GOP’s footing in the state’s upcoming Senate election is less secure than previously thought.
The Douglas County Sentinel reports that state representatives Dustin Hightower, Mike Dudgeon, Buzz Brockway, Josh Clark, Kevin Cooke, and Delvis Dutton — all Republicans — have introduced a resolution to repeal the 17th Amendment to the U.S. Constitution. The 17th Amendment, which was adopted in 1913, mandated that senators be elected by popular vote; before its passage, senators were selected by state legislatures.
[...]
stevie ray
February 21st, 2013
12:40 pm
Fred ™
February 21st, 2013
12:36 pm
Do you really suppose Alex is drinking his breakfast?
That Black Guy
February 21st, 2013
12:42 pm
Brosephus™
February 21st, 2013
11:37 am
Fred
I think he hacked my pc or something. I don’t remember telling him anything.
___________________________________________
All that time in Sinop, Turkey watching the Ruskies didn’t go to waste.
Thomas Heyward Jr
February 21st, 2013
12:42 pm
They didn’t have to hack into Chrysler/Fiat/Jeep.
.
The Marxist in the sec 8 Whitehouse………..gave it to them.
.
lol
stevie ray
February 21st, 2013
12:42 pm
JAY
Also relative to the Chinese ability to digest and make use of the data, any assumption that they have not the talent to do such is a real bogus assumption. It doesn’t take much to distill massive amounts of data into workable bits..with focus on certain aspects of data..
getalife
February 21st, 2013
12:43 pm
Fred,
The girl is a minor and her parents want to abort.
She would need their permission to abort but not to have the baby but will need her parents to help raise the child.
It is a interesting case and I can see why Debbie is on the fence.
Brosephus™
February 21st, 2013
12:43 pm
That mother who makes gets 25K/yr of our tax money produces absolutely nothing of worth.
The mother who “makes gets”??? Damn, when you’re gonna make up sh*t, at least ensure it sounds remotely plausible. Nobody gets $25,000 in welfare, and if you believe such dumb sh*t, then there is absolutely no hope for you at all. That mother who makes $25,000 is doing stuff like bathing and cleaning up after stroke victims. I’m sure you know the details involved in that. That $25K is someone’s assistant answering phones and getting coffee.
I can’t understand why I even expect rational thought from you anymore. Seems like a grown assed man should have the intelligence to match.
barking frog
February 21st, 2013
12:43 pm
Fred™ 12:24
Uncle has some bad machinery…on Okinawa in 1968 the SR71
was located there and when one took off the warm up and takeoff
would vibrate block buildings a good bit away from the field…
Fred ™
February 21st, 2013
12:43 pm
stevie ray: I hope so, if he isn’t then I feel really bad because I fear I would be laughing at a mentally handicapped person and I wouldn’t want to be doing that.
Moderate Line
February 21st, 2013
12:44 pm
alex
February 21st, 2013
11:40 am
@ Moderate line;only as to inherint deception and narcissm
+++++
I have no idea what your point is.
Fred ™
February 21st, 2013
12:45 pm
SIDE NOTE: If you click on any of the pictures I linked, try browsing through the collection. I didn’t find it on purpose, but whoever’s photo account that is has some AWESOME shots. I’ve been looking at them for the last 30 minutes or so.
getalife
February 21st, 2013
12:45 pm
tommy,
How is our President a “Marxist”?
Fred ™
February 21st, 2013
12:46 pm
Like this one:
http://onebigphoto.com/japan-aogashima-volcano/
Doggone/GA
February 21st, 2013
12:46 pm
“The girl WANTS the child”
And what, exactly, does that have to do with murdering a pregnant woman?
Brosephus™
February 21st, 2013
12:46 pm
TBG
RB from Gwinnett
February 21st, 2013
12:46 pm
First responders will only be out of work if the sequestor goes through “IF OBAMA CHOOSES THEM TO BE OUT OF WORK”. He gets to pick which things get cut and which don’t based on the actual legislation (that he basically came up with). So when Oblame-a stands before the microphone again, lying through his teeth as he has been doing recently, you’ll know the TRUTH about first responders and their potential for continued employment.
Joe Hussein Mama
February 21st, 2013
12:47 pm
S. Ray — “Do you really suppose Alex is drinking his breakfast?”
Either that, or the nurse brings his breakfast in a little paper cup and he’s expected to wash all the tablets down with a little cup of water.
stevie ray
February 21st, 2013
12:48 pm
alex
February 21st, 2013
12:30 pm
You sure don’t appear to me to be chemically influenced.
BO et al’s most successful skill by far is the ability to deflect blame not matter what the issue. Jay Carney admits the sequester idea was BO’s and administration. Now he is rambling on about the GOP being the problem. All the jobs he is hysterically bullhorning that will alledgedly be lost, is just a method toward his goal…don’t be blamed for anything. His deal. We are talking about such a small fraction of cuts that I can’t see foundation for all the hysteria..except BO deflecting that this was by his design…how could the GOP not go along with it?
Fred ™
February 21st, 2013
12:48 pm
Frog: My niece’s hubby (does that make him my nephew in law lol), actually flies the B-52. the “latest” upgrades on that thing are older than he is lol.
getalife
February 21st, 2013
12:48 pm
rb,
You are consistently dead wrong and it does not bother you.
I guess that is something.
Logical Dude
February 21st, 2013
12:49 pm
Keith: hes selling everything else to them. he gave A123 battery maker millions of our, not your, OUR money and now its a chinese company. yes, i am right, hes a sellout.
okay, who is “he”, “our”, and “your”? Pronouns make sense after using proper nouns. In the absence of proper nouns, pronouns can be rather confusing.
Cheesy Grits is gone but not forgotten
February 21st, 2013
12:49 pm
the govt is going broke trying to support you boy.
It s going broke supporting the Southern Red States. They pay little in taxes and receive most of the spending.
The bigger northern economies have always to a certain extent subsidized a decent standard of living in the very poor rural south.
That is why the South has electricity. Federal ( Northern ) dollars.
I dont know if they can do it much longer though.
stevie ray
February 21st, 2013
12:50 pm
Moderate Line
February 21st, 2013
12:44 pm
I paid good money to be diagnosed as emotionally avoidant and narcissistic. What that really means is my head is up my butt and I don’t want to talk about it…
DebbieDoRight - Minister Of Propaganda
February 21st, 2013
12:50 pm
DDR: The way the law treats abortion these days, if the mom wants an abortion, it’s just some cells. If the mom wants to keep the baby, it’s a life and to take it would be murder. You notice that while abortions are legal, if someone murders a pregnant lady, they get charged with TWO counts of murder, not one.
Not all – certain states do. These states treat the fetus as a child IF the fetus is over a certain amount of weeks, (the same as abortionists do). If the fetus can viably live outside of the womb, then it’s considered a child, hence the murder of the mother is also the murder of the child.
I haven’t seen any cases where there was a death penalty given to someone who killed a mother in her first trimester. Could be out there, but i just haven’t seen it.
+++++++
GetalifeThey had the 16 year old father on cnn and he wants to have the baby and was shocked her parents decided not to have it. A great episode of 16 and pregnant full of drama.
IMO that’s probably why she got pregnant. Instant stardom if they use you for an episode. However, you know that I have too many cynical bones in my body and her willingness to keep the child could be as she says, because she wants it.
=======
Thanks keith for the reminder it’s after noon now and ok to drink………..
Steve
February 21st, 2013
12:50 pm
yawn
Fred ™
February 21st, 2013
12:50 pm
And what, exactly, does that have to do with murdering a pregnant woman?
Precedent. How can the “law” force this girl to “murder” her child? It can’t.
State forced abortions. Boy howdy what a brouhaha that would create.
Doggone/GA
February 21st, 2013
12:51 pm
“IMO this and our reliance on borrowed funds are the two most significant security risks we face. Next “war” will not be ground attack..”
And if we confront the Chinese with an ultimatum: “Cease the attacks or we’ll suspend payment on the money owed” how likely is it they won’t pay attention? They can’t “repossess this country and if we announce we refuse to pay, they’ll have a HARD time selling those bonds they’re holding.
stevie ray
February 21st, 2013
12:52 pm
Cheesy Grits is gone but not forgotten
February 21st, 2013
12:49 pm
I never thought of that but in the scheme of things, it’s irrelevant. Where do you get this information?
Doggone/GA
February 21st, 2013
12:54 pm
“She would need their permission to abort but not to have the baby but will need her parents to help raise the child”
Here’s another wrinkle: if they can’t force her to get an abortion, can they force her to put the child up for adoption?
indigo
February 21st, 2013
12:54 pm
Brosephus – “seems like a grown assed man should have the intelligence to match”
Actually, many here are Christian Academy home schoolers who spend time posting when they should be studying. That will explain why their posts are filled with such profound ignorance.
Granny Godzilla
February 21st, 2013
12:54 pm
RB
He gets to pick which things get cut and which don’t based on the actual legislation (that he basically came up with)..
oh and I think we all need to remember that not a single house democrat voted for the sequester….
.
.
.
I challenge the accuracy of that statement.
Now I know the GOP today is making noises
about a new plan to deal with the sequester that includes that which you suggest…..
Fred ™
February 21st, 2013
12:55 pm
Doggone@ 12:51: Most people don’t seem to realize that China needs the money we give them more than we need their cheap goods. Especially the ones who place a reliance on FOX news, talk radio, and other hard right wing new sources selling fear.
larry
February 21st, 2013
12:56 pm
BO et al’s most successful skill by far is the ability to deflect blame not matter what the issue. Jay Carney admits the sequester idea was BO’s and administration. Now he is rambling on about the GOP being the problem.
Doesnt it take two sides to make a deal? And didnt the GOP overwhelmingly vote for this? Didnt this happen because the GOP didnt want to raise the debt ceiling? Couldnt the GOP reject the idea if this idea was the Presidents? Havent the GOP objected and rejected everything proposed by this President? Why not this?
Doggone/GA
February 21st, 2013
12:57 pm
“the SR71″
My FAVORITE airplane! That is one awesome bird, and I don’t use awesome often!
Cheesy Grits is gone but not forgotten
February 21st, 2013
12:57 pm
I never thought of that but in the scheme of things, it’s irrelevant. Where do you get this information?
Google it. Its everywhere.
The states that get more back than they send in in tax dollars are almost all Red States.
Thomas Heyward Jr
February 21st, 2013
12:58 pm
getalife
February 21st, 2013
12:45 pm
tommy,
How is our President a “Marxist”?
——————————————————————-
.
Are you serious?
.
He, like you……….are polluted with the “collectivist” dogma.
That is the corner stone of Marxism( which ,according to Marx, is the natural outcome of our present day b@sterdized form of socialism).
.
“Society does not consist of individuals, but expresses the sum of interrelations, the relations within which these individuals stand.”
— Karl Marx, Grundrisse, 1858
.
You didn’t build that.
The Marxist Obama
.
Furthermore………..another trait of a good Marxist is constantly stoking class struggles.
See Obama.
.
Like most progs…………you are ashamed of what you truly are, therefore you will never admit it.
If you voted for Obama, you are a Marxist.
A VIOLENT Marxist at that.
.
It’s never too late to change.
Jefferson
February 21st, 2013
12:59 pm
rb is full today.
Brosephus™
February 21st, 2013
12:59 pm
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/federal-eye/wp/2013/02/21/sequester-means-up-to-14-furlough-days-for-customs-and-border-protection/
Seems that DHS disagrees with RB, but righties here don’t have a stellar record for being right about things.
Jefferson
February 21st, 2013
12:59 pm
heyword too, full
Doggone/GA
February 21st, 2013
12:59 pm
“Precedent. How can the “law” force this girl to “murder” her child? It can’t”
Short answer: abortion is not murder
Look before I leap...
February 21st, 2013
1:00 pm
“oh and I think we all need to remember that not a single house democrat voted for the sequester…”
Not intended to be a factual statement.
The house vote was 269-161
Of the 269, 95 were democrats.
Cheesy Grits is gone but not forgotten
February 21st, 2013
1:01 pm
Seems that DHS disagrees with RB, but righties here don’t have a stellar record for being right about things.
Fox News and Dick Morris really nailed the election though ……
Landslide Alert !!!!
getalife
February 21st, 2013
1:03 pm
“Here’s another wrinkle: if they can’t force her to get an abortion, can they force her to put the child up for adoption?”
Perhaps Debbie can answer that one because I do not know.
Doggone/GA
February 21st, 2013
1:03 pm
“Most people don’t seem to realize that China needs the money we give them”
We borrow money from them, but we “give” them money” How do you work THAT out.?
TBS
February 21st, 2013
1:03 pm
Thomas
Are Bloomberg’s henchmen still after your boy Alex Jones?
Thomas Heyward Jr
February 21st, 2013
1:04 pm
Speaking of pregnant women…..the Federales ARE practicing shooting them.
(No hesitation Targets).
.
http://www.infowars.com/dhs-supplier-provides-shooting-targets-of-american-gun-owners/
.
sad
getalife
February 21st, 2013
1:04 pm
tommy,
What in the world is “collectivist” dogma?
Moderate Line
February 21st, 2013
1:05 pm
Brosephus™
February 21st, 2013
12:43 pm
That mother who makes gets 25K/yr of our tax money produces absolutely nothing of worth.
Nobody gets $25,000 in welfare, and if you believe such dumb sh*t, then there is absolutely no hope for you at all.
+++++
Where does the 25K figure come from? It comes from a study by the CATO Institute. I also included a rebuttal to the study. Both were completed in the mid 90’s.
http://www.cato.org/policy-report/novemberdecember-1995/welfare-pays-better-work
http://www.huppi.com/kangaroo/L-flawedcato.htm
Thomas Heyward Jr
February 21st, 2013
1:05 pm
jefferson………….marxist
Fred ™
February 21st, 2013
1:05 pm
Short answer: abortion is not murder
Short answer: If it wasn’t they couldn’t charge someone with two counts of murder for murdering a pregnant woman. They do. Now you go argue your little abortion crap with someone else. I don’t talk about it. I leave it to you mouth foamers.
Marty Huggins'
February 21st, 2013
1:05 pm
Is it not about the woman’s body and her right to choose what to do with her body?
If so why is there any question if the female with the fetus inside of “her” body wants it how could anyone have a right to say otherwise?
If you do allow anyone else to ever make that choice for them do you not then allow for the opposite decision to be made as well?
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
February 21st, 2013
1:06 pm
What in the world is “collectivist” dogma?
Randroid speak.
DebbieDoRight - Minister Of Propaganda
February 21st, 2013
1:07 pm
Nobody gets $25,000 in welfare, and if you believe such dumb sh*t, then there is absolutely no hope for you at all.
He, k71, has always been a little “out there” but ever since January 2009, he’s been hanging on by a string. We need to lay hands on him and pray his sanity returns.
I can’t understand why I even expect rational thought from you anymore. Seems like a grown assed man should have the intelligence to match.
Welllll…………… (shrug)……you DO know you’re talking to k71 don’t ya?
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barking frog
February 21st, 2013
12:43 pm
Fred™ 12:24
Uncle has some bad machinery…on Okinawa in 1968 the SR71
was located there and when one took off the warm up and takeoff
would vibrate block buildings a good bit away from the field…
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Fred ™
February 21st, 2013
12:43 pm
stevie ray: I hope so, if he isn’t then I feel really bad because I fear I would be laughing at a mentally handicapped person and I wouldn’t want to be doing that.
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Moderate Line
February 21st, 2013
12:44 pm
alex
February 21st, 2013
11:40 am
@ Moderate line;only as to inherint deception and narcissm
+++++
I have no idea what your point is.
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Fred ™
February 21st, 2013
12:45 pm
SIDE NOTE: If you click on any of the pictures I linked, try browsing through the collection. I didn’t find it on purpose, but whoever’s photo account that is has some AWESOME shots. I’ve been looking at them for the last 30 minutes or so.
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getalife
February 21st, 2013
12:45 pm
tommy,
How is our President a “Marxist”?
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Fred ™
February 21st, 2013
12:46 pm
Like this one:
http://onebigphoto.com/japan-aogashima-volcano/
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Doggone/GA
February 21st, 2013
12:46 pm
“The girl WANTS the child”
And what, exactly, does that have to do with murdering a pregnant woman?
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Brosephus™
February 21st, 2013
12:46 pm
TBG
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RB from Gwinnett
February 21st, 2013
12:46 pm
First responders will only be out of work if the sequestor goes through “IF OBAMA CHOOSES THEM TO BE OUT OF WORK”. He gets to pick which things get cut and which don’t based on the actual legislation (that he basically came up with). So when Oblame-a stands before the microphone again, lying through his teeth as he has been doing recently, you’ll know the TRUTH about first responders and their potential for continued employment.
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Joe Hussein Mama
February 21st, 2013
12:47 pm
S. Ray — “Do you really suppose Alex is drinking his breakfast?”
Either that, or the nurse brings his breakfast in a little paper cup and he’s expected to wash all the tablets down with a little cup of water.
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stevie ray
February 21st, 2013
12:48 pm
alex
February 21st, 2013
12:30 pm
You sure don’t appear to me to be chemically influenced.
BO et al’s most successful skill by far is the ability to deflect blame not matter what the issue. Jay Carney admits the sequester idea was BO’s and administration. Now he is rambling on about the GOP being the problem. All the jobs he is hysterically bullhorning that will alledgedly be lost, is just a method toward his goal…don’t be blamed for anything. His deal. We are talking about such a small fraction of cuts that I can’t see foundation for all the hysteria..except BO deflecting that this was by his design…how could the GOP not go along with it?
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Fred ™
February 21st, 2013
12:48 pm
Frog: My niece’s hubby (does that make him my nephew in law lol), actually flies the B-52. the “latest” upgrades on that thing are older than he is lol.
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getalife
February 21st, 2013
12:48 pm
rb,
You are consistently dead wrong and it does not bother you.
I guess that is something.
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Logical Dude
February 21st, 2013
12:49 pm
Keith: hes selling everything else to them. he gave A123 battery maker millions of our, not your, OUR money and now its a chinese company. yes, i am right, hes a sellout.
okay, who is “he”, “our”, and “your”? Pronouns make sense after using proper nouns. In the absence of proper nouns, pronouns can be rather confusing.
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Cheesy Grits is gone but not forgotten
February 21st, 2013
12:49 pm
the govt is going broke trying to support you boy.
It s going broke supporting the Southern Red States. They pay little in taxes and receive most of the spending.
The bigger northern economies have always to a certain extent subsidized a decent standard of living in the very poor rural south.
That is why the South has electricity. Federal ( Northern ) dollars.
I dont know if they can do it much longer though.
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stevie ray
February 21st, 2013
12:50 pm
Moderate Line
February 21st, 2013
12:44 pm
I paid good money to be diagnosed as emotionally avoidant and narcissistic. What that really means is my head is up my butt and I don’t want to talk about it…
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DebbieDoRight – Minister Of Propaganda
February 21st, 2013
12:50 pm
DDR: The way the law treats abortion these days, if the mom wants an abortion, it’s just some cells. If the mom wants to keep the baby, it’s a life and to take it would be murder. You notice that while abortions are legal, if someone murders a pregnant lady, they get charged with TWO counts of murder, not one.
Not all – certain states do. These states treat the fetus as a child IF the fetus is over a certain amount of weeks, (the same as abortionists do). If the fetus can viably live outside of the womb, then it’s considered a child, hence the murder of the mother is also the murder of the child.
I haven’t seen any cases where there was a death penalty given to someone who killed a mother in her first trimester. Could be out there, but i just haven’t seen it.
+++++++
GetalifeThey had the 16 year old father on cnn and he wants to have the baby and was shocked her parents decided not to have it. A great episode of 16 and pregnant full of drama.
IMO that’s probably why she got pregnant. Instant stardom if they use you for an episode. However, you know that I have too many cynical bones in my body and her willingness to keep the child could be as she says, because she wants it.
=======
Thanks keith for the reminder it’s after noon now and ok to drink………..
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Jefferson
February 21st, 2013
1:07 pm
harword, tomorrow check who is YOUR president.
That Black Guy
February 21st, 2013
1:07 pm
alex
February 21st, 2013
12:10 pm
@that black guy;don’t start ups benefit from hedge funds?
________________________________
some do, yes.
Your point?
TBS
February 21st, 2013
1:07 pm
Thomas things he is really making some sort of impact by calling everyone a Marxist.
It might make him feel good and he can email Alex Jones telling him what he said on the AJC, but that is about all the mileage he is getting, but don’t tell him. It is an ego booster for him to say it.
Matti
February 21st, 2013
1:08 pm
“Freedom is just another word for nothing left to lose.” — Janis Jefferson Joplin
Doggone/GA
February 21st, 2013
1:10 pm
“If it wasn’t they couldn’t charge someone with two counts of murder for murdering a pregnant woman”
You obviously don’t follow the Red Queen’s philsophy to believe “six impossible things before breakfast”
Fred ™
February 21st, 2013
1:11 pm
Dear Doggone: I realize that you are literal, but sometimes it borders on ludicrous. If I buy something from you, you “give” me a product and I “give” you money. It’s a “trade.”
In America we buy a BUNCH of stuff from China. In return we GIVE them money. They GIVE us goods. It’s a universally understood concept.
ALSO in America, we have these instruments called BONDS. China has bought up a bunch of our BONDS. This is ABOVE and SEPARATE from other TRADE transactions.
I hope this helps clear things up and if it doesn’t then please continue on in confusion.
godless heathen - owner of many things he does not need
February 21st, 2013
1:11 pm
get more back
What does this include? Military spending? Is the money spent at the CDC, “getting money back” ?
getalife
February 21st, 2013
1:12 pm
Our President is playing the unlimited donation game and is a American capitalist.
The proof is the top 1% are doing better than ever.
Now, he is shifting focus to growing the middle class because they are not doing well like the 1%.
tommy should join the real world because ron paul is gone and his son is a joke.
Doggone/GA
February 21st, 2013
1:13 pm
“Is it not about the woman’s body and her right to choose what to do with her body?”
Legally, the girl in question is not a woman…she’s still a minor and under the legal control of her parents.
Fred ™
February 21st, 2013
1:13 pm
Holy Beejeebers Debbie!!!!!!!! That has to be the most awesome copy/paste blog fail of all times lol.
Brosephus™
February 21st, 2013
1:14 pm
Moderate Line
Since that study was done, we’ve had reforms passed and signed into law. The workfare, or welfare to work, was touted by both Clinton and his GOP Congress as a big change in welfare to decrease the numbers on the rolls. Forgive my cynicism, but I doubt GOP controlled states are giving out $25K in welfare in 2013.
DownInAlbany
February 21st, 2013
1:14 pm
DebbieDoRight – Minister Of Propaganda
February 21st, 2013
1:07 pm
Dang, Debbie. What was that all about?
DebbieDoRight - Minister Of Propaganda
February 21st, 2013
1:14 pm
Jeesh! I don’t know HOW that happened! Sorry everyone!
Fred ™
February 21st, 2013
1:14 pm
Legally, the girl in question is not a woman…she’s still a minor and under the legal control of her parents.
Legally you are wrong because legally, the judge ruled the other way.
That Black Guy
February 21st, 2013
1:14 pm
DDR – “YES its true that she can’t /shouldn’t be forced to abort however she IS a teenager and the full load of the child she brings into the world, if she decides to keep it, will be on the parents, NOT her.”
Not if the parents give her a set of bootstraps and tell her to “Get ta pullin’”.
Partisay
February 21st, 2013
1:15 pm
Kayaker..you mean I waited all this time for that!
“That mother who makes gets 25K/yr of our tax money produces absolutely nothing of worth. Koch employs nearly 70,000 people worldwide and supplies goods and services from it’s efforts which benefit much more than Koch Industries, not to mention providing jobs and all that goes with it. This is idiotic. Like comparing apples and oranges.”
I’m not sure what you mean by “mother who makes gets 25K/yr of our tax money…” You mean a stay at home mom? How does she get 25K of our tax money? Or if you mean a mother who earns 25K a year at a job, how does she get 25K/yr of our tax money. You’re the one that made a big deal out of “Congress makes tax law in this country, or did, the last time I checked. And they could have changed the tax laws anytime in the last 50 or so years but have elected not to do so.” You basically chastised Debbie for suggesting not enough taxes were paid and you based that on “hey, that’s what the tax laws are.” But it doesn’t work on the other end? Hey, that’s what the tax laws are…remember? Way to be consistent.
And as for that mother “produces absolutely nothing of worth”, what about family values? Hey, she’s staying at home raising the family. Isn’t that what conservatives are all about? Or is it just profits, profits, profits baby!!
Darn those stay at home moms. Worthless. Absolutely lazy and worthless. They are producing absolutely nothing of worth. Such a drain on our country……
DownInAlbany
February 21st, 2013
1:16 pm
Never criticize MY cut-and-paste again!
Logical Dude
February 21st, 2013
1:16 pm
DDR – I think you overcopied in that post
Paul
February 21st, 2013
1:16 pm
Hello, kayaker 71
“That mother who makes gets 25K/yr of our tax money produces absolutely nothing of worth. Koch employs nearly 70,000 people worldwide and supplies goods and services from it’s efforts which benefit much more than Koch Industries, not to mention providing jobs and all that goes with it. This is idiotic. Like comparing apples and oranges.”
I said nothing about a single mom on welfare paying no taxes. The scenario was a single, working mother who earns $25k a year. Let’s put aside the question of why you automatically assume a single mom’s on welfare, not working. Now that you understand the question – are you okay with a single mom who pays no taxes on her earnings (profit) because she’s following the law and not paying more than she’s required to pay, in fact might even get additional taxpayer funds, as you are with a Facebook or a Wells Fargo or a Verizon who have profits in the billions , pay no income taxes and get additional taxpayer funds?
I’m at a car dealership on a computer in the waiting room, so please excuse me if I don’t respond promptly. It’s a short visit and I’ll likely leave soon.
Brosephus™
February 21st, 2013
1:17 pm
Doggone
Based on your use of the word awesome, which I don’t recall ever seeing come from you, check out the photo at the top of this article.
http://gizmodo.com/5950763/holy-fcklook-at-all-these-sr+71-blackbirds-together
getalife
February 21st, 2013
1:17 pm
I have seen a con copy and paste everything on dkos.
Moderate Line
February 21st, 2013
1:18 pm
RB from Gwinnett
February 21st, 2013
12:46 pm
First responders will only be out of work if the sequestor goes through “IF OBAMA CHOOSES THEM TO BE OUT OF WORK”. He gets to pick which things get cut and which don’t based on the actual legislation (that he basically came up with). So when Oblame-a stands before the microphone again, lying through his teeth as he has been doing recently, you’ll know the TRUTH about first responders and their potential for continued employment.
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Obama has choices but those choices are limited. You can’t cut certain things without encurring a cost. For example, if you have a contract for a lease you can’t cancel that without paying a penalty. Think of a McDonalds if your revenue decreases what are you going to cut. Supplies and salaries is about all you have. However, much of the cost is in the lease of the building, equipment and utilities.
mm
February 21st, 2013
1:18 pm
For all of the lying cons and their schills in the media, here’s the vote count on the sequester.
You own it cons.
alex
February 21st, 2013
1:19 pm
@ That black guy, simply an example of why hedge funds have utility and I believe I do agree with you that Soros and Adelman are birds of a feather and both parties have their support. This blog attacks the super rich GOP supporters but turns a blind eye toward the left (no kidding, you say), Either one of these men should have all the legal right to use their wealth to help the candiddate of their choice (LEGAL). I suspect that Soros would have been called a “cafe’ communist” in Vienna in 1924….
Thomas Heyward Jr
February 21st, 2013
1:19 pm
getalife
February 21st, 2013
1:04 pm
tommy,
What in the world is “collectivist” dogma?
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The collectivist dogma is an affliction,(usually contracted during government school early education and/or colledge) whereas one is led to believe that the masses(collective) can be personified therefore the wants and needs of the masses are more important than the individual.
To believe this, you must ignore the fact that the collective is nothing but a collection of individuals.
To bestow personification on an inaminate object, one must invent the state, This is why Marxists such as you worship the state.
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Free you mind.
Read some Rothbard, Theroux, and some Paul.(not the neo-con Rand).
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Once you stop living off of stolen loot, cheering war and mayhem, and hating rich people,You’ll like yourself better.
Doggone/GA
February 21st, 2013
1:19 pm
What in the world is “collectivist” dogma?”
I have a dog that collects toys and puts them in his bed…does that count?
Steve
February 21st, 2013
1:21 pm
LOL @ “Collectivist dogma”
Logical Dude
February 21st, 2013
1:22 pm
Bro: check out the photo at the top of this article
It’s gorgeous. Pure airplane porn. A perfect occasion
-article
Why oh why don’t we still have the SR-71. . . oops. . .
SR-71 was 1960’s technology, built in the 70’s, flown in the 80’s. . . I wonder what we are flying now?
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
February 21st, 2013
1:22 pm
Shorter Thomas Heyward Jr: Ayn Rand RULZ!
getalife
February 21st, 2013
1:22 pm
tommy,
I call that the majority of the American voters.
The majority was heard by our President so he is acting on what they want.
Look before I leap...
February 21st, 2013
1:23 pm
” I wonder what we are flying now?”
The U-2
50’s technology
Retro is in these days.
Brosephus™
February 21st, 2013
1:24 pm
Logical Dude
I have that photo in rotation as wallpaper on my computer.
Paul
February 21st, 2013
1:24 pm
mm
OUCH!
The ONE time the pres makes a suggestion and Republicans go for it lock, stock and barrel…. then they go from “this is such a bad thing that no way will we ever let it happen” to “neato! Bring it on!!!”
That link is kinda like at the end of a game when the loser’s arguing about the calls that should have gone the other way and the winner says ‘Scoreboard!”
getalife
February 21st, 2013
1:24 pm
My dog brings in birds and baby possums.
Is that collected dogma?
Doggone/GA
February 21st, 2013
1:24 pm
“Legally you are wrong because legally, the judge ruled the other way.”
Did he rule that she is no longer a minor? Because if he did that absolves her parents of all responsibility for her and her pregnancy and the resultant child.
DebbieDoRight - Minister Of Propaganda
February 21st, 2013
1:24 pm
“She would need their permission to abort but not to have the baby but will need her parents to help raise the child”
Here’s another wrinkle: if they can’t force her to get an abortion, can they force her to put the child up for adoption?
Good question DG! Short answer NO. By law, no one can FORCE a mother to give up her rights to her child unless she is found to be unfit.
However there are end arounds. I’m helping with a case in Florida where they state is trying to take away a mentally disabled (retarded, ’cause the woman can live on her own AND has a job), woman’s rights to her child because when she was pregnant with her child, (about 8 months or so), she was arrested for fighting in public (fist fighting — the woman was about 6 feet and 250 the boyfriend about 5 5 and 125 lbs), with her boyfriend.
They’re claiming that her mental deficiency makes her likely to become violent again with her child AND that her lack of “cognizant ability” to NOT fight a grown man when she was pregnant means that she is not fit to raise the child herself.
Fact is though,, when the child was born the state took the child (which was supposed to be for only UNTIL the mother completed anger management), and gave her to a well-to-do Foster family. the family now wants to adopt the child and the state is pushing t sever the mother’s parental rights.
How I got involved is because I know the Paralegal who is also working on the case, (used to work with me here in Atlanta — same office); and the woman is her sister. They can’t afford a lawyer, (voila), and since I know absolutely nothing about Family Law especially in Florida; Tina, the Paralegal, is doing all the leg work and I’m just mostly a figure head, (I’m licensed to practice in Florida).
I find the case fascinating AND I’m really looking forward to seeing how far the state will try to go in their quest to keep this woman from her child.
The mother has done everything the state has asked her to do: Anger Management Classes; Parenting Classes, etc.; yet the state refuses to return her child to her. Once she passes one hurtle, the state puts up another one and tells her she has to jump through that one too.
getalife
February 21st, 2013
1:25 pm
The gop all voted for the sequester and blame it on the President.
If you believe anything the gop says, I have some “collectivist” dogma to sell you.
Kamchak ~Thug from the Steppes
February 21st, 2013
1:26 pm
Does the Chinese govt. know about the SONS OF CONFEDERATE VETERANS! ?
Fred ™
February 21st, 2013
1:26 pm
Doggone: Here is our new puppy. We get him March 18.
http://tinyurl.com/a7×8p72
That Black Guy
February 21st, 2013
1:26 pm
Partisay
February 21st, 2013
12:19 pm
That black guy…I can’t quote how many jobs are created or sustained by Buffett or by Soros for that matter. But I bet it’s more than a couple.
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Buffett – 260,000+/-
Soros – ?
Koch – 60,000+/-
Fred ™
February 21st, 2013
1:27 pm
SR-71 was 1960’s technology, built in the 70’s, flown in the 80’s. . . I wonder what we are flying now?
Spy satellites.
Thomas Heyward Jr
February 21st, 2013
1:28 pm
getalife
February 21st, 2013
1:12 pm
Our President is playing the unlimited donation game and is a American capitalist.
The proof is the top 1% are doing better than ever
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YOUR president is busy playing unlimited donations to OTHER countries.(its called wealth re-distrubution).
He’s on record for agreeing to this policy, he never said he would limit it to his subjects).
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And as far as the 1%……..it’s more like 0.01%.
And that is the State.
Even in the most Communistic Utopia (USSA cica 1980) , there is always the “ruling class”.
And trust me……..you won’t be in it).
Fred ™
February 21st, 2013
1:29 pm
Dang Debbie, are you a damn ambulance chaser like Keep? I wish you hadn’ta told THAT………..
getalife
February 21st, 2013
1:29 pm
Fred,
Is that a pit bull?
Erwin's cat
February 21st, 2013
1:29 pm
The states that get more back than they send in in tax dollars are almost all Red States.
one could argue that they are better at investing or business…they are making money off you Blue states
Brosephus™
February 21st, 2013
1:30 pm
Fred
Don’t forget the drones.
Doggone/GA
February 21st, 2013
1:30 pm
Bro – Thanks! From the first couple of paragraphs I’d say the author likes them as much as me! They’re the only plane I would love to fly in. Pity I’ll never get a chance.
Corbin Sharpe. I think, therefore I am...I think.
February 21st, 2013
1:31 pm
getalife
February 21st, 2013
1:25 pm
The word around Red Street is that the president threatened the The GOP with his hammer and cycle so they had to sign it. It was Obama’s fault…
Paul
February 21st, 2013
1:31 pm
mm
From the Washington Post: “Party leaders, the White House and most members of Congress supported the debt-ceiling deal: The BCA passed on a 268-161 vote in the House, with about one-third of House Republicans and half of House Democrats opposing it. It passed in the Senate, 74-26, with six Democratic senators and 19 Republican senators opposing it.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/wonkblog/wp/2012/09/14/the-sequester-explained/
Regardless, the numbers show Republicans were in favor, Democrats opposed.
Bernie
February 21st, 2013
1:31 pm
Unfortunately, while America was distracted by its WAR on Terror, and a unjustified WAR with IRAQ. The Chinese and Russians were quietly and with great percision infilitrating America’s computer networks including defense,corporations,utilities,entertainment, research & development, Scientific, Financial,Medical, pharmaceutical, even Americans personal computer devices. All the time Preparing for the next century warfare strategies. These two Nations managed to get a 10year jump on America in this Technology. A 10year advantage in computer technology and its uses can be compared to an advantage of the Industrial Age over the Stone age. We are Light Years behind in even acessing what advantages and accessabilty they have over us. The infiltration is to far and to deep to prevent any meaniful defensive action at this time. Our only hope will be in the next generation of computer technology and we should make sure at all costs . they should not piggy back that transfer to prevent even more future damage.
The Republican Party’s overreaching zealousness with the middle east is the primary cause of this disparity. This failure to connect the DOTS is another glaring failure of the Bush Cartel Administration in protecting America and its resources.
We are slowly learning with each passing year, under George Bush’s and the Republican Leadership a monumental failure of historical epic porportions has occurred again and We are just being made aware of the seriousness of that failure.. Meanwhile All Republicans would have ALL of us to think, President Obama is the worst President in U.S. history. History will record that period will be from 2001 through 2008 hands down.
President Obama’s leadership has been exemplary in the handling of this issue and we ALL would be wise to follow his lead in making sure that more is done to protect America and its assets.
getalife
February 21st, 2013
1:31 pm
tommy,
Lost me at your.
Have a nice day .
Fred ™
February 21st, 2013
1:32 pm
getalife: nope, he’s a badger hound.
stands for decibels - Friend of Hamas!
February 21st, 2013
1:32 pm
Obligatory on-topic post even though I’m real late to this:
Glad to hear that we’re actually on the hook to increase government spending on something, anyway. It means some new jobs. Not many, but some, so that’s good.
stands for decibels - Friend of Hamas!
February 21st, 2013
1:33 pm
Regardless, the numbers show Republicans were in favor, Democrats opposed.
somehow I don’t think that’s going to stop the usual suspects from posting otherwise, but thnx for giving ‘er the old college try.
Kamchak ~Thug from the Steppes
February 21st, 2013
1:34 pm
Fred
Do you anticipate any problems between Sam and the new puppy?
getalife
February 21st, 2013
1:34 pm
“President Obama’s leadership has been exemplary in the handling of this issue and we ALL would be wise to follow his lead in making sure that more is done to protect America and its assets.”
Agreed .
Look before I leap...
February 21st, 2013
1:34 pm
My uncle Hal was the SR-71 wing commander out at Beale for a few years. Getting to sit in the cockpit of this plane was THE reason I decided to become an AF pilot. Unfortunately I flew A-10’s, not the A-12. To this day I think my assignment orders were a typo.
A shame the plane got retired. 1989 I think. No live datalink to the ground.
Erwin's cat
February 21st, 2013
1:35 pm
he’s a badger hound.
aka Dachshund…had them when growing up…stubborn as any other hound when it gets a scent
Paul
February 21st, 2013
1:35 pm
Much of the ill effects of the sequester could be easily avoided IF Congress would grant agency heads the authority to transfer funds so higher-priority negative impacts are avoided. However, Congress won’t do that. They are the ones who originally put the money in the separate categories. They like the control. They want to make sure programs that affect their interests or districts aren’t cut too much.
But bottom line: they could mitigate the impact if they wanted to.
Doggone/GA
February 21st, 2013
1:37 pm
“I wonder what we are flying now?”
We aren’t. The Blackbird was retired obsolete due to statellite technology
alex
February 21st, 2013
1:37 pm
@ Stevei ray,the sequestor is simply a small crude response to the deficiet issue which the pres and congress continues to kick down the road. It is possible that the minor inconveniences of the sequestor will be dwarfted by the budget issues slated for review soon. Either the population will completely blame the GOP or will begin to look to the whitehouse which, if the GOP holds firm to cuts, will have to compromise as the blame begins to be distributed to both parties. I am not at all convinced that this president knows how to compromise, but we will find out. Remember, he has sorrounded himself with like thinkers. The gop also lacks leadership, the country has alot of partisan divide, making any deal difficult.
getalife
February 21st, 2013
1:37 pm
Fred,
I have a rescued puppy from Katrina that looked like that puppy.
Corbin Sharpe. I think, therefore I am...I think.
February 21st, 2013
1:38 pm
Thomas Heyward Jr
February 21st, 2013
1:28 pm
Proof, TH, proof…or are you off your meds? It’s easy to say, but prove it or take your tin hat elsewhere. I get you don’t like the President, but without proof of what you are spewing, you sound…well…foolish and hateful.
godless heathen - owner of many things he does not need
February 21st, 2013
1:38 pm
SR 71 stories
In his book, Sled Driver, SR-71 Blackbird pilot Brian Shul writes: “I’ll always remember a certain radio exchange that occurred one day as Walt (my backseater) and I were screaming across Southern California, 13 miles high. We were monitoring various radio transmissions from other aircraft as we entered Los Angeles airspace. Though they didn’t really control us, they did monitor our movement across their scope. I heard a Cessna ask for a readout of its groundspeed.”
“90 knots” Center replied.
“Moments later, a Twin Beech required the same.”
“120 knots,” Center answered.
“We weren’t the only ones proud of our groundspeed that day as almost instantly an F-18 smugly transmitted, ‘Ah, Center, Dusty 52 requests groundspeed readout.’
“There was a slight pause, then the response, 525 knots on the ground, Dusty”.
“Another silent pause. As I was thinking to myself how ripe a situation this was, I heard a familiar click of a radio transmission coming from my backseater. It was at that precise moment I realized Walt and I had become a real crew, for we were both thinking in unison.” “Center, Aspen 20, you got a groundspeed readout for us?”
There was a longer than normal pause…. “Aspen, I show 1,742 knots”
“No further inquiries were heard on that frequency”
In another famous SR-71 story, Los Angeles Center reported receiving a request for clearance to FL 60 (60,000ft).
The incredulous controller, with some disdain in his voice, asked, “How do you plan to get up to 60,000 feet?”
“The pilot (obviously a sled driver), responded, “We don’t plan to go up to it, we plan to go down to it.”
He was cleared…
HDB
February 21st, 2013
1:38 pm
Brosephus™
February 21st, 2013
11:08 am
TBG
Shhhhhhhhhhhh!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Everybody will be asking me to make copies for them if they find out that I have the entire DVD set that includes the behind-the-scenes footage.”
Hope that also includes the bloopers………..
Moderate Line
February 21st, 2013
1:38 pm
Brosephus™
February 21st, 2013
1:14 pm
Moderate Line
Since that study was done, we’ve had reforms passed and signed into law. The workfare, or welfare to work, was touted by both Clinton and his GOP Congress as a big change in welfare to decrease the numbers on the rolls. Forgive my cynicism, but I doubt GOP controlled states are giving out $25K in welfare in 2013.
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I just presented the information of where the figure came from. I believe the rebuttal exposes the flaws in the study and why the $25,000 as a typical figure is suspect.
moonbat betty
February 21st, 2013
1:39 pm
Your kids and grandkids better learn Mandarin.
Once the Chinese are done using us, they would like nothing better than to see us go down.
Why can’t these clowns develop anything on their own without reverse engineering everything?
I wish we would pull all of our companies out of there.
stands for decibels - Friend of Hamas!
February 21st, 2013
1:39 pm
It is possible that the minor inconveniences of the sequestor will be dwarfted by the budget issues slated for review soon.
for the bazillionth-and-a-half time:
I do not give a flying f-ck about the budget and about the debt and deficit.
I care about people out of work.
get people back to work. fix that first. Then start worrying about whether you’re filling out the ledger with red ink or black in, for f-ck’s sakes.
stands for decibels - Friend of Hamas!
February 21st, 2013
1:41 pm
And if anyone wonders who I largely blame for the brinksmanship that the GOP continues to play:
http://www.credoaction.com/comics/2010/12/middle-man/
…he’s gotten better of late, of course.
Joe Hussein Mama
February 21st, 2013
1:41 pm
LB4IL — “Unfortunately I flew A-10’s, not the A-12″
Perhaps you find it unfortunate, but we Army groundpounders sure did appreciate y’all.
Fred ™
February 21st, 2013
1:43 pm
Kam: I hope not. My experience with dogs is that unlike those nasty animals, cats, nurture the young. He is bound to be a little jealous, but he is really bonded to my wife, which is why the daughter wants the new one, and Balti will be the daughter’s.
getalife
February 21st, 2013
1:43 pm
“get people back to work. fix that first. Then start worrying about whether you’re filling out the ledger with red ink or black in, for f-ck’s sakes”
Exactly.
It is frustrating the gop are focused on killing more jobs but that is what their cons want them to do.
Sad but true.
Doggone/GA
February 21st, 2013
1:44 pm
Fred – cute puppy! What breed?
Moderate Line
February 21st, 2013
1:45 pm
Moderate Line
February 21st, 2013
1:38 pm
Brosephus™
February 21st, 2013
1:14 pm
Moderate Line
Since that study was done, we’ve had reforms passed and signed into law. The workfare, or welfare to work, was touted by both Clinton and his GOP Congress as a big change in welfare to decrease the numbers on the rolls. Forgive my cynicism, but I doubt GOP controlled states are giving out $25K in welfare in 2013.
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Here is another chart which is more recent. See table.
http://www.econlib.org/library/Enc/Welfare.html#lfHendersonCEE2-168_table_050
Fred ™
February 21st, 2013
1:45 pm
LOL JHM, I made an A10 driver all mad and indignant one time when I told him his plane looked so slow over the ground that I thought I could hit him with a TOW.
Kamchak ~Thug from the Steppes
February 21st, 2013
1:45 pm
Fred
Sam seems to be a dog with a loving nature.
Fred ™
February 21st, 2013
1:45 pm
Doggone; Doxie. Short hair. our other Doxie (male, 6YO) won’t try to eat him will he?
DebbieDoRight - Minister Of Propaganda
February 21st, 2013
1:46 pm
Legally, the girl in question is not a woman…she’s still a minor and under the legal control of her parents.
Legally you are wrong because legally, the judge ruled the other way.
Not true. The judge ruled in favor of the girl, but he DIDN’T sever the parents legal rights (the girl is not emancipated). That’s why he ordered the parents to pay half of her medical bills.
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TBG – Hiya doing!! I’ve seen you on the blogs once or twice, but you’re always busy talking to that shiftless, no good BAMMA person and you never say “hi” to anyone else.
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Paul: I said nothing about a single mom on welfare paying no taxes. The scenario was a single, working mother who earns $25k a year
this is gonna be gooooodddd!!
TBS
February 21st, 2013
1:46 pm
“I wish we would pull all of our companies out of there.”
With the demand for both high profits and cheap goods, not going to happen.
Fred ™
February 21st, 2013
1:46 pm
Amen Stands. Of course yesterday we had some on who delighted in the fact that folks were out of work. They go so far as to taunt them at breakfast.
TBS
February 21st, 2013
1:48 pm
Moonbat
There have been and will continue to be one offs, but until wages in China are a huge deterrence, it is what it is.
Ken
February 21st, 2013
1:48 pm
I worry more about the Washingtin thugs than China.
stands for decibels - Friend of Hamas!
February 21st, 2013
1:51 pm
Ken, thugs are thugs.
Red and yellow, black and white, they are evil in my sight.
Meehhh
February 21st, 2013
1:53 pm
If China is really reading this……more egg rolls please.
Joe Hussein Mama
February 21st, 2013
1:53 pm
Fred — “I thought I could hit him with a TOW.”
As tough as A-10s are, that TOW round would probably just bounce off.
Doggone/GA
February 21st, 2013
1:53 pm
“he’s a badger hound.”
Ah yes, what P.G. Wodehouse called the easiest breed of got to trip over
Look before I leap...
February 21st, 2013
1:54 pm
@JHM
On behalf of my fellow hog drivers, you are welcome.
Alas, I never flew an actual combat mission.
Originally I thought I wanted an F-16. But the mission profile for the A-10 looked so much more interesting. We did some real flying. The boys upstairs were wusses.
Doggone/GA
February 21st, 2013
1:54 pm
OOPS! “dog” not “got”
Doing too many things at once!
RB from Gwinnett
February 21st, 2013
1:54 pm
“Obama has choices but those choices are limited. You can’t cut certain things without encurring a cost. For example, if you have a contract for a lease you can’t cancel that without paying a penalty. Think of a McDonalds if your revenue decreases what are you going to cut. Supplies and salaries is about all you have. However, much of the cost is in the lease of the building, equipment and utilities.”
I know that, and you know that, but what Obama is saying is he’s cutting out beef and bun purchases from his McDonalds. The point is, HE has the choices of what gets cut. If he chooses to send first responders to the streets instead of furloughs or cancelling that $1MM conference in Vegas, that’s his choice. He’s pissing on the people’s heads and telling them it’s raining.
stands for decibels - Friend of Hamas!
February 21st, 2013
1:54 pm
Are the Chinese still re-directed to pics of fluffy puppies if they Google “Tienanmen Square”?
DebbieDoRight - Minister Of Propaganda
February 21st, 2013
1:56 pm
Dang Debbie, are you a damn ambulance chaser like Keep? I wish you hadn’ta told THAT………..
Whatevah! I was ASKED because she knew i had a license AND I’d be willing to do it for free. She won’t even have to pay for my travel, we have an office in Florida and I’ll just work from there while/If I have to go to court on this. Which I hope NOT to do.
I’m an arbitrator mostly….I’ve never had to go to court. I’d probably mumble or something and make a fool of myself if I ever had to present a case before a judge. ESPECIALLY something I’m not even proficient in!
td
February 21st, 2013
1:58 pm
Partisay
February 21st, 2013
12:08 pm
A person making $25,000 per year and unmarried should not be having children that they can not take care of. We should not be subsidizing their irresponsible behavior. There should be consequences to your actions.
moonbat betty
February 21st, 2013
2:00 pm
True TBS, I would rather pay higher prices though.
Joe Hussein Mama
February 21st, 2013
2:01 pm
LB4IL — “Originally I thought I wanted an F-16. But the mission profile for the A-10 looked so much more interesting. We did some real flying.”
I imagine y’all did. I saw a pair of A-10s during Team Spirit one year (for you civilians, that used to be around Feb/Mar each year in South Korea), and they were just HOWLING down this narrow-azz valley, whipping back and forth and up and down as if they were doing some freakish combination of a snake dance and nap-of-the-earth flying to avoid enemy fire. Down on the valley floor, they sounded like twin tornadoes coming our way.
For an earthbound signalman, it was a pretty awesome sight.
td
February 21st, 2013
2:01 pm
I wish China would go ahead and release Obama’s real birth certificate and college records.
Jefferson
February 21st, 2013
2:01 pm
rb just knows too much for his own good, ha
moonbat betty
February 21st, 2013
2:01 pm
Fred,
Can you make a parody video to the “Honey Badger” but use the Badger Hound instead?
Jack ®
February 21st, 2013
2:02 pm
The engineers that run these complicated spying mechanisms weren’t recruited from the dropout group or the group that blames someone else for their failures.
Kamchak ~Thug from the Steppes
February 21st, 2013
2:02 pm
…should not be having children…
Presumptuous.
You don’t get to make the call on who should breed.
Look before I leap...
February 21st, 2013
2:03 pm
“For an earthbound signalman, it was a pretty awesome sight.”
A shame you never got the view from the driver’s seat.
Still makes my nipples hard when I think of it.
getalife
February 21st, 2013
2:04 pm
rb,
So you want congress to do their job but your party refuses.
Jackie
February 21st, 2013
2:04 pm
The Chinese military is a direct recipient of Wal-Mart doing business with China.
The standard of living we have enjoyed has been severely diminished by the Wal-Mart low price, low wage, job destroying phenomena.
http://justanothercoverup.com/the-symbiotic-relationship-between-wal-mart-china/wal-mart-china-benefit-america-loses-traitors-walmart-building-chinas-economy/
Paul
February 21st, 2013
2:05 pm
td
The mom was married to a Marine killed in Iraq. The Marine never got around to changing the designation on his life insurance to his new wife, who was pregnant with twins when her husband was killed.
Should corporations that cannot take care of themselves without government subsidies be forced to dissolve?
How long do you want to keep up the stupid diversions?
getalife
February 21st, 2013
2:05 pm
” wish China would go ahead and release Obama’s real birth certificate and college records.”
You should work on your credibility con.
Joe Hussein Mama
February 21st, 2013
2:05 pm
LB4IL — “A shame you never got the view from the driver’s seat.”
Now that I’m older, lazier and better-paid, I prefer the kind of flying that comes with purty flight attendants and First Class seating.
Doggone/GA
February 21st, 2013
2:08 pm
“The pilot (obviously a sled driver), responded, “We don’t plan to go up to it, we plan to go down to it.”
Yep, that’s the Blackbird!
indigo
February 21st, 2013
2:09 pm
Thomas – 1:28
You’re in way over your head here.
This site is better suited to your conservative delusions.
http://www.alternet.org/story/147851/top_10_right-wing_conspiracy_theories
DebbieDoRight - Minister Of Propaganda
February 21st, 2013
2:09 pm
Here ya go td!! I always keep a copy around in case someone asked about it. Enjoy!
getalife
February 21st, 2013
2:09 pm
“The two sides in the gun debate seem to agree that the insurance industry should play a bigger role in an armed society, but they differ on state proposals seeking to make liability coverage mandatory.” NYTimes.
Look before I leap...
February 21st, 2013
2:10 pm
@JHM
My wife is an F/A so watch yourself. I can still get my hands on an Avenger.
Fred ™
February 21st, 2013
2:10 pm
DDR: My niece is about to start law school. She applied to Emory, which would have been great since she could have stayed with us, but didn’t get accepted, but she got accepted at Virginia. Isn’t it odd? Virginia is ranked 6th I think for law schools while Emory is 60th or lower.
She is working as a paralegal for the guy who defended Terry Nichols and he encouraged her to become a lawyer. She WAS a teacher.
But don’t tell anyone. I tell folks she is doing something respectable, like working at the Chicken Ranch…….. like this……….
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fYoZ9nmnhh8
Kamchak ~Thug from the Steppes
February 21st, 2013
2:11 pm
http://www.alternet.org/news-amp-politics/alternet-comics-matt-davies-sequestration-standoff
Heh, heh, heh.
Paul
February 21st, 2013
2:11 pm
Car’s ready. Back in a while.
Fred ™
February 21st, 2013
2:13 pm
moonbat; I wish I could lol.
Doggone/GA
February 21st, 2013
2:14 pm
“Doggone; Doxie. Short hair. our other Doxie (male, 6YO) won’t try to eat him will he?”
Hard to tell, but to some extent it depends on you. You got to let the older dog show the younger that he’s the boss…but not let him get too rough. If they’re both males, it might or might not work out.
It’s hard for me to say for sure, since I’ve never had Doxies…but I did raise 2 dogs together from puppies and they ended up hating each other and I had to keep them separated. But on the other hand, I’ve always had males and those 2 were the only ones I ever had a problem with.
Doggone/GA
February 21st, 2013
2:16 pm
Fred – sorry, hit submit too soon. What I would suggest is that you introduce your 6 yr old to the puppy away from your house, say a block or tow away. Then walk them back home together, but make the puppy wait for the older dog AND you to go through the door first. That will establish for him what his place is in the pack.
JKL2
February 21st, 2013
2:18 pm
Jackie- The Chinese military is a direct recipient of Wal-Mart doing business with China.
Sam was all about “buy American”. Since he died, the store has become a warehouse for cheap crap from China. I can’t stand the place, but unfortunately where I live it’s about the only game in town.
Erwin's cat
February 21st, 2013
2:19 pm
the only problem we ever had with introducing new dogs to the doxies was at chow time. The older dog would eat everything in sight so the new pup couldn’t get his food…it didn’t work and he got fat
td
February 21st, 2013
2:21 pm
Paul
February 21st, 2013
2:05 pm
td
The mom was married to a Marine killed in Iraq. The Marine never got around to changing the designation on his life insurance to his new wife, who was pregnant with twins when her husband was killed.
Show me where this is happening to the majority of the people( or even more then 100) making $25,000 being single parents and then I would be willing to have a discussion about it with you.
Fred ™
February 21st, 2013
2:22 pm
Trevor Bayne leads the first lap Danica hasn’t hit anything yet.
JKL2
February 21st, 2013
2:23 pm
Paul- The Marine never got around to changing the designation on his life insurance to his new wife, who was pregnant with twins when her husband was killed.
The Marines could be different, but you usually have to update that before you deploy. If he didn’t change it, it’s because he didn’t want it changed.
moonbat betty
February 21st, 2013
2:24 pm
Danica will win.
NASCAR will do anything to increase their ratings.
Fred ™
February 21st, 2013
2:25 pm
LOL EC: We keep an open food bowl. I was wondering how thta would work as well. I don’t think Sam is going to share, but he might surprise us.
He used to stay at a friends house who had an OLD doxie and a huge dog that looked like a wolf.
td
February 21st, 2013
2:25 pm
DebbieDoRight – Minister Of Propaganda
February 21st, 2013
2:09 pm
Here ya go td!! I always keep a copy around in case someone asked about it. Enjoy!
That is a future taxpayer telling you progressive what they think of you when they get the bill for the debt you are currently accruing that they will be responsible for.
Doggone/GA
February 21st, 2013
2:27 pm
“The older dog would eat everything in sight so the new pup couldn’t get his food…it didn’t work and he got fat”
I’ve never allowed that to happen. Since my dogs were performance dogs as well as pets, AND all males, I’ve always fed them in separate crates…so each could eat at their own pace and not feel threatened by the others.
moonbat betty
February 21st, 2013
2:27 pm
“The Chinese military is a direct recipient of Wal-Mart doing business with China.”
What is it with liberals and Wal-Mart?
Walmart sells the same items as every other retail store in the US.
Go to Macys and see if you can buy any clothes made in the USA….
monty
February 21st, 2013
2:27 pm
If the CHinese hack your computer, just vomit on them!
Fred ™
February 21st, 2013
2:28 pm
moonbat: It’s just a qualifying race and she is already on the pole for the race. Everyone else is racing for where they will start (or if). She SHOULD just race cautiously, learn how the new car handles and stay out of the way and out of trouble. As long as she doesn’t wreck she’ll start on the pole Sunday.
Ya’ll have fun, gonna go watch at a bar. I FINALLY found someone to break away from work lol.
Logical Dude
February 21st, 2013
2:29 pm
Oops. .I forgot to give my guess. . .
Someone will bump into Danica between laps 40 -60.
(and hopefully they get bumped back hard)
Fred ™
February 21st, 2013
2:29 pm
That is a future taxpayer telling you progressive what they think of you when they get the bill for the debt you are currently accruing that they will be responsible for.
Isn’t it funny how the Republican assclowns ALWAYS gloss over the 2 unfunded wars and the unfunded drug mandate…………
Fred ™
February 21st, 2013
2:30 pm
Logical Dude: I’m betting she makes the whole race.
Logical Dude
February 21st, 2013
2:30 pm
Fred: It’s just a qualifying race
oh. . .then they may not bump her at all today
Redneck Convert (R--and proud of it)
February 21st, 2013
2:31 pm
Here is our new puppy. We get him March 18.
Well, no offense, Fred, but that dog is just butt ugly. There ain’t no pretty way to say it.
Morality?
February 21st, 2013
2:32 pm
Maybe the Chinese will hack in on some of Bonnie Frank’s basement escapades …… get grossed out and disgusted.
Fred ™
February 21st, 2013
2:32 pm
Yeah, she’s riding at the back of the pack. I really WISH as a man witha daughter who likes female role models, that she was good, but she really isn’t. SHe’s an adequate driver with a beautiful face and body. Just what NASCAR wants. Chrissy Wallace is a better racer but she’s butt ugly. She’ll never get a good chance, anymore than Tina Gordon did.
Joe Hussein Mama
February 21st, 2013
2:33 pm
JKL2 — “The Marines could be different, but you usually have to update that before you deploy. If he didn’t change it, it’s because he didn’t want it changed.”
That was also the Army pre-deployment procedure.
Morality?
February 21st, 2013
2:33 pm
Are you talking about the unfunded wars that Obama voted for?
Fred ™
February 21st, 2013
2:34 pm
Well Dang Redneck Convert, and here I managed to have his little brother sent to your wife for company when you are at Billy Bob’s with Joe Earl……….. maybe she can give him a make over
td
February 21st, 2013
2:36 pm
Fred ™
February 21st, 2013
2:29 pm
That is a future taxpayer telling you progressive what they think of you when they get the bill for the debt you are currently accruing that they will be responsible for.
Isn’t it funny how the Republican assclowns ALWAYS gloss over the 2 unfunded wars and the unfunded drug mandate……
If I am not mistaken, GWB was responsible for about $800 billion for the 2 unfunded wars (which was made up with the tax increase that Obama just got). This happens to be around the same amount as Obama and the Dems did in their stimulus plan that paid off the people that got them elected.
BTW: Defending our nation and the military is one of the very few things in the Constitution that the Federal Government is suppose to do. Means tested entitlement programs are not a requirement of the Federal government.
Doggone/GA
February 21st, 2013
2:37 pm
“Are you talking about the unfunded wars that Obama voted for?”
No, since he wasn’t in the US Senate at the time he had no vote on it. You know (or maybe you don’t) that it only takes a minute or two of your time to keep from looking like a total fool.
Fred ™
February 21st, 2013
2:38 pm
Morality?
February 21st, 2013
2:33 pm
Are you talking about the unfunded wars that Obama voted for?
+++++++++++++++++++++
Really? When did he vote for either war? When did he become a Senator? When did the wars start? Hmmmmmmmm………. you didn’t REALLY mean to type to stupidity did you? You were just kidding right?
Erwin's cat
February 21st, 2013
2:39 pm
Fred – Come to think of it my sis had a miniature female doxie for several years and then they brought home two large dogs a pit mix and a Shepard mix and later a big ole bird dog…Feeding time was funny as the miniature turned into a hell hound and went after the other 3 if they came near her when she was eating. Once she was done she then “allowed” the other 3 to eat…It was a hoot watching the 3 big dogs waiting and watching for her to finish…she was the Alpha dog inside the house and the other 3 went along with it
Butch Cassidy (I)
February 21st, 2013
2:39 pm
Doggone/GA – “No, since he wasn’t in the US Senate at the time he had no vote on it. You know (or maybe you don’t) that it only takes a minute or two of your time to keep from looking like a total fool.”
Ouch, I heard that smackdown all the way up here in NYC. I almost feel sorry for Morality. Almost.
Fred ™
February 21st, 2013
2:40 pm
BTW: Defending our nation and the military is one of the very few things in the Constitution that the Federal Government is suppose to do. Means tested entitlement programs are not a requirement of the Federal government.
Really? How was invading Iraq defending our Country? You DO know the meaning of the word DEFEND don’t you?
Brosephus™
February 21st, 2013
2:42 pm
Doggone
There’s one on display at the Space and Rocket Center in Huntsville, AL. Whenever I get there, that’s about as close as I’ll get to flying in one, so I feel your pain.
——————
Look before
The A-10 isn’t nothing to sneeze at either.
——————
Moderate Line
I see where you got your info, but I think kayaker was assuming welfare. Paul gave the original amount as a working mother. I’d be interested to see how much that amount has changed over the years. I’ll have to check after they’re finished at Daytona.
JKL2
February 21st, 2013
2:45 pm
fred- Really? How was invading Iraq defending our Country? You DO know the meaning of the word DEFEND don’t you?
If you’re going to fight and break stuff, it’s better to do it in their house than yours.
td
February 21st, 2013
2:45 pm
Fred ™
February 21st, 2013
2:40 pm
BTW: Defending our nation and the military is one of the very few things in the Constitution that the Federal Government is suppose to do. Means tested entitlement programs are not a requirement of the Federal government.
Really? How was invading Iraq defending our Country? You DO know the meaning of the word DEFEND don’t you?
Because the US Congress, in a by partisan manner (Kerry, Clinton, Reid…) said it was in our national interest to keep us safe to invade Iraq. You do understand that DEFEND can also mean preemptive attack to ensure potential future attacks do not happen?
Doggone/GA
February 21st, 2013
2:48 pm
“If you’re going to fight and break stuff, it’s better to do it in their house than yours”
And it’s even “better” to do it in the house of someone who was no threat to you at all…right?
Brosephus™
February 21st, 2013
2:49 pm
Paul: How long do you want to keep up the stupid diversions?
How long do you plan to breathe oxygen.
комиссар (Occupation)
February 21st, 2013
2:49 pm
So, yesterday I asked our cons to answer whether FL Gov. Rick Scott is now a member of the 47%. I’m still waiting.
So, whaddya think?
Has Rick Scott been “death paneled”, politically speaking?
td
February 21st, 2013
2:51 pm
Doggone/GA
February 21st, 2013
2:48 pm
“If you’re going to fight and break stuff, it’s better to do it in their house than yours”
And it’s even “better” to do it in the house of someone who was no threat to you at all…right?
I guess to stop someone that attempted to stop the free flow of oil (the backbone to our entire economic system) to our nation is not any type of threat?
Kamchak ~Thug from the Steppes
February 21st, 2013
2:53 pm
No, since he wasn’t in the US Senate at the time he had no vote on it. You know (or maybe you don’t) that it only takes a minute or two of your time to keep from looking like a total fool.
Really? When did he vote for either war? When did he become a Senator? When did the wars start? Hmmmmmmmm………. you didn’t REALLY mean to type to stupidity did you? You were just kidding right?
Ouch, that had to hurt.
stands for decibels - Friend of Hamas!
February 21st, 2013
2:54 pm
And it’s even “better” to do it in the house of someone who was no threat to you at all…right?
The “gotta fight ‘em over there so we don’t gotta fight ‘em over here” psychopathy of the Cheney era. Don’t you miss it?
Joe Hussein Mama
February 21st, 2013
2:55 pm
(popcorn)
Brosephus™
February 21st, 2013
2:56 pm
Wow, Morality should change that question mark to an exclamation mark after getting spanked like that. Hell, that’s almost grounds to change screen names.
Doggone/GA
February 21st, 2013
2:56 pm
“Iguess to stop someone that attempted to stop the free flow of oil (the backbone to our entire economic system) to our nation is not any type of threat?”
how come OUR oil is under THEIR sand? Do you happen to have ANY evidence, besides the voices in your head, that Saddam Hussein had any such intentions?
stands for decibels - Friend of Hamas!
February 21st, 2013
2:57 pm
the free flow of oil (the backbone to our entire economic system)
Reminds me of a classic wartime flick…
Kamchak ~Thug from the Steppes
February 21st, 2013
3:00 pm
I guess to stop someone that attempted to stop the free flow of oil (the backbone to our entire economic system) to our nation is not any type of threat?
Covet much?
stands for decibels - Friend of Hamas!
February 21st, 2013
3:03 pm
Since y’all were talking a bit about cheap labor, earlier, I was wondering if anyone saw this from earlier in the week…
http://www.salon.com/2013/02/19/southern_poverty_pimps/
The real choice facing America in the 21st century is the same one that faced it in the 19th and 20th centuries — Northernomics or Southernomics?
Northernomics is the high-road strategy of building a flourishing national economy by means of government-business cooperation and government investment in R&D, infrastructure and education. Although this program of Hamiltonianism (named after Washington’s first Treasury secretary, Alexander Hamilton) has been championed by maverick Southerners as prominent as George Washington, Henry Clay and Abraham Lincoln (born in Kentucky to a Southern family), the building of a modern, high-tech, high-wage economy has been supported chiefly by political parties based in New England and the Midwest, from the Federalists and the Whigs through the Lincoln Republicans and today’s Northern Democrats.
Southernomics is radically different. The purpose of the age-old economic development strategy of the Southern states has never been to allow them to compete with other states or countries on the basis of superior innovation or living standards. Instead, for generations Southern economic policymakers have sought to secure a lucrative second-tier role for the South in the national and world economies, as a supplier of commodities like cotton and oil and gas and a source of cheap labor for footloose corporations. This strategy of specializing in commodities and cheap labor is intended to enrich the Southern oligarchy. It doesn’t enrich the majority of Southerners, white, black or brown, but it is not intended to.
[...]
Apart from a high federal minimum wage, nothing could be a greater threat to the Southern cheap-labor economic strategy than universal, standardized federal social insurance. In order to maximize the dependence of Southern workers on Southern employers in the great low-wage labor pool of the former Confederacy, it would be best to have no welfare at all, only local charity (funded and controlled, naturally, by the local wealthy families).
Brosephus™
February 21st, 2013
3:06 pm
dB
Didn’t see that one. Thanks for the linkee.
Duper
February 21st, 2013
3:07 pm
Now more than ever that OWG (one world government) dream needs to come true.
stands for decibels - Friend of Hamas!
February 21st, 2013
3:09 pm
Now more than ever that OWG (one world government) dream needs to come true.
Ultimately it will be so, of course; it’s a bit silly to imagine otherwise.
Doggone/GA
February 21st, 2013
3:09 pm
“Now more than ever that OWG (one world government) dream needs to come true”
Well, now we know what Duper dreams about at night.
stands for decibels - Friend of Hamas!
February 21st, 2013
3:11 pm
should change that question mark to an exclamation mark
reminds me of a flannel-shirted Republican presidential aspirant from long ago.
moonbat betty
February 21st, 2013
3:12 pm
sfd,
I guess everyone is going to start moving back north now!
Yippe!
Erwin's cat
February 21st, 2013
3:14 pm
Duper – “Now more than ever that OWG (one world government) dream needs to come true”
you shall be assimilated
stands for decibels - Friend of Hamas!
February 21st, 2013
3:14 pm
Yippe!
Try reading it and get back to me with what the analyst has got wrong.
moonbat betty
February 21st, 2013
3:14 pm
All this talk about dogs and Chinese is making me hungry!
stands for decibels - Friend of Hamas!
February 21st, 2013
3:17 pm
All this talk about dogs and Chinese is making me hungry!
That should not make me laugh. It is very wrong.
Erwin's cat
February 21st, 2013
3:20 pm
All this talk about dogs and Chinese is making me hungry!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3gAU2ex2LvM
Kinda brings new meaning to……”How much is that doggie in the window?”
stands for decibels - Friend of Hamas!
February 21st, 2013
3:20 pm
crap, look at the time. must leave Bookman time-suck. later…
Marty Huggins'
February 21st, 2013
3:22 pm
Doggone/GA
February 21st, 2013
1:13 pm
It doesn’t matter at all if they are her parents and provide every resource for her.
Nobody can force anyone to have an “optional” medical procedure.
If it was a health risk and her life was in danger, they could make that call.
Take away the emotion, this would be similar to a parent forcing a teen to have plastic surgery and the teen didn’t want it.
In both cases it is a non-patient making a decision that is optional and optional procedures cannot be performed without patient consent.
I tried and was unable to find any precedent set where as an optional procedure was forced upon a person of age to give verbal consent.
I did find this though……
“A minor who is unmarried and pregnant can consent to treatment of pregnancy other than abortio”
http://rightnow.texmed.org/ci/fattach/get/19231/
Brosephus™
February 21st, 2013
3:23 pm
betty
That 3:14 is wrong on so many levels, and I’m just as wrong for laughing.
That Black Guy
February 21st, 2013
3:25 pm
Doggone/GA
February 21st, 2013
1:44 pm
Fred – cute puppy! What breed?
___________________________________
It’s a Fredhound.
They are fun and protective, but will bite if you use the words “Fox” or “Rush”.
Also, they don’t bark like other dogs. Theirs sound like “Delusionallickspittle”.
Doggone/GA
February 21st, 2013
3:26 pm
“A minor who is unmarried and pregnant can consent to treatment of pregnancy other than abortio”
Yes, someone posted that (in different words) way back.
Paul
February 21st, 2013
3:27 pm
td
“Show me where this is happening to the majority of the people( or even more then 100) making $25,000 being single parents and then I would be willing to have a discussion about it with you.”
It’s irrelevant. The question, as I’m sure you remember as you’re trying so hard to avoid it, was if Sinkwich and kayaker 71 are okay with corporations who earn billions paying no federal income taxes and receiving government subsidies, are they okay with low-income individuals and families also paying no federal income taxes?
As far as your diversion: your contention is there are 100 or fewer single moms in the country who make $25k a year? You really going with that? (hint: earnings per year divided by 2080 standard workhours per year equals pay rate. You think that pay rate sounds suspicious?).
I notice you did not ask if it’s common for corporations showing hundreds of millions or over a billion in profits to pay no federal income taxes. You really don’t want to go there, do you?
So how about answering the original question? The level of pay or family circumstance is irrelevant. It’s about those earning a profit or return on their labor being exempt from paying federal income tax.
But you might just have a bare, flickering inkling of where this is going, so it’s entirely understandable you want to divert, avoid and dismiss rather than answering. It’s probably too threatening to your skewed view of reality.
Doggone/GA
February 21st, 2013
3:30 pm
“It’s probably too threatening to your skewed view of reality.”
Is it EVER!
moonbat betty
February 21st, 2013
3:30 pm
sfd/Bro,
It’s not wrong it it’s true!
j/k
I love dogs (not to eat though, mind you) and E-Cat’s 3:20 definitely will kill your appetite.
JamVet
February 21st, 2013
3:30 pm
betty, I believe their is an old Chinese blues classic, redone by the Stones, Aerosmith and others named Wokking the Dog…
That Black Guy
February 21st, 2013
3:34 pm
DDR – TBG – Hiya doing!! I’ve seen you on the blogs once or twice, but you’re always busy talking to that shiftless, no good BAMMA person and you never say “hi” to anyone else.
Hey DDR. I’m here everyday, I just don’t comment. Sometimes, by the time I get on, everything has been said.
I’ll do better, as you always make me laugh.
That Black Guy
February 21st, 2013
3:36 pm
Anyone planning to go to the Oysterfest this weekend?
http://www.steamhouselounge.com/oysterfest.html
td
February 21st, 2013
3:37 pm
Paul
February 21st, 2013
3:27 pm
td
“Show me where this is happening to the majority of the people( or even more then 100) making $25,000 being single parents and then I would be willing to have a discussion about it with you.”
“As far as your diversion: your contention is there are 100 or fewer single moms in the country who make $25k a year? You really going with that? (hint: earnings per year divided by 2080 standard workhours per year equals pay rate. You think that pay rate sounds suspicious?).”
I was writing to your one in a million example.
Brosephus™
February 21st, 2013
3:39 pm
Paul
Bless your heart for your continued vigilance in trying to get a serious answer from a group that seriously refuses to give one.
moonbat betty
February 21st, 2013
3:39 pm
lol JamVet.
I doubt Doggone/GA is going to ever invite me over for dinner now.
DebbieDoRight - Minister Of Propaganda
February 21st, 2013
3:43 pm
How long do you want to keep up the stupid diversions?
Are you kidding? He’s running away from your questioning so fast that He makes the Road Runner look like a turtle!
=====
Fred — Congrats!! That’s how i started, as a paralegal. I was lucky enough (and probably good enough), that my employer sent me to school to become a lawyer. Nothing as hoity toity as UVA though! Oh no not Debs…………..I went to Mercer! I would commute between Macon and Atlanta until I finally just got an apartment in Macon for day I didn’t feel like driving back to Atlanta. Good times!
Oh and I saw that dig you made about lawyers. I forgive you for you know not what you do….
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“Iguess to stop someone that attempted to stop the free flow of oil (the backbone to our entire economic system) to our nation is not any type of threat?”
OMG I hope you were joking and this was just a tongue in cheek comment meant to illicit a response but not to be taken seriously.
If you were actually serious…………well………………all i can say is:
You: What truth?
DDR: That you are a slave, Neo. Like everyone else, you were born into bondage, born inside a prison that you cannot smell, taste, or touch. A prison for your mind. (long pause, sighs) Unfortunately, no one can be told what the Matrix is. You have to see it for yourself. This is your last chance. After this, there is no turning back.
(In her left hand, DDR shows a blue pill.)
Debs: You take the blue pill and the story ends. You wake in your bed and believe whatever you want to believe.
(a red pill is shown in her other hand)
You take the red pill and you stay in Wonderland and I show you how deep the rabbit-hole goes. Remember — all I am offering is the truth, nothing more.
TAKE THE RED PILL!!! SAVE YOURSELF!!
Marty Huggins'
February 21st, 2013
3:44 pm
Doggone/GA
February 21st, 2013
3:26 pm
An apology on my behalf.
I’m in and out due work so just wanted to respond, I didn’t want to be rude or nuthin
Trolls Bane
February 21st, 2013
3:44 pm
Military Intelligence ..
All of the best either are already employed by Washington or are working in private industry. These ppl command big $$$$$. This is not a job a 19 wet-behind the ears high-school grad.
Unfortunately, uncle is not well like by the best of the best ….
Doggone/GA
February 21st, 2013
3:45 pm
“I doubt Doggone/GA is going to ever invite me over for dinner now”
Why would I not? I don’t serve either dog OR Chinese!
Marty Huggins'
February 21st, 2013
3:47 pm
Paul,
What was your original question?
I am way too lazy to read back through to find it.
Trying to figure out what the fuss is about
td
February 21st, 2013
3:47 pm
Paul
February 21st, 2013
3:27 pm
It appears that the latest two (Facebook and GE) were taking advantage of the tax laws as they are written. (BTW: Both of these two are huge Democratic supporters).
It is the Republicans that have been talking about for years to totally redo the tax system in this country to either a flat tax with no or very few write offs or a consumption tax. Go talk to your progressive brothers and sisters if you think the current system is unfair.
DebbieDoRight - Minister Of Propaganda
February 21st, 2013
3:47 pm
That is a future taxpayer telling you progressive what they think of you when they get the bill for the debt you are currently accruing that they will be responsible for.
Are you high td? If so, that’ll explain a lot. that picture was of a little english kid…………..
Paul
February 21st, 2013
3:48 pm
td
What one in a million example?
DebbieDoRight - Minister Of Propaganda
February 21st, 2013
3:49 pm
It appears that the latest two (Facebook and GE) were taking advantage of the tax laws as they are written. (BTW: Both of these two are huge Democratic supporters).
ANSWER HIS QUESTION AND STOP RUNNING FROM THE TRUTH!!
TAKE THE RED PILL ALREADY!!!
Tundra Dude
February 21st, 2013
3:50 pm
Danica will win.
NASCAR will do anything to increase their ratings
Another Homie hitting the Big Time!!
Go Danica!
Kamchak ~Thug from the Steppes
February 21st, 2013
3:51 pm
A Tri-Cornered Sombrero Is A Very Hard Thing To Find
Heh, heh, heh.
That Black Guy
February 21st, 2013
3:52 pm
“The older dog would eat everything in sight so the new pup couldn’t get his food…it didn’t work and he got fat”
My Dad’s Doxie just passed at the age of 15.
He was so fat, he had buttcheeks.
moonbat betty
February 21st, 2013
3:52 pm
“Why would I not? I don’t serve either dog OR Chinese!”
That’s good because I don’t care for either
DebbieDoRight - Minister Of Propaganda
February 21st, 2013
3:52 pm
Moonie’s here! Hiya moonie! Happy Thursday!
moonbat betty
February 21st, 2013
3:52 pm
eating that is…
Kamchak ~Thug from the Steppes
February 21st, 2013
3:53 pm
Oops, messed up that linkee thing.
moonbat betty
February 21st, 2013
3:53 pm
Hi Debbie,
Good to see ya!
Erwin's cat
February 21st, 2013
3:54 pm
He was so fat, he had buttcheeks.
I used to refer to ours as “the tick”…his head was tiny compared to the rest of him
moonbat betty
February 21st, 2013
3:54 pm
“He was so fat, he had buttcheeks.”
Did his belly drag the ground?
DebbieDoRight - Minister Of Propaganda
February 21st, 2013
3:55 pm
Kam — your links not working!!
комиссар (Occupation)
February 21st, 2013
3:55 pm
“Go talk to your progressive brothers and sisters if you think the current system is unfair.”
Why talk to the “progressives” on the current state of the tax system or tax code? What on earth have they had to do with it?
Paul
February 21st, 2013
3:56 pm
td 3:47
Aaaannnndd…..
you avoided answering again.
You are consistent, I’ll give you that.
Marty Huggins’
Started yesterday with Sinkwich saying he was fine with corporations paying zero tax because they’re following the tax law and should not pay one bit more than required. I then asked him if he was fine with ‘the 47%” who pay no federal income taxes because they, too, are following the tax law and should not pay one bit more than required.
Sinkwich left.
Then we had another blogger pop in. He too, avoided when his attention was redirected to the original question.
Then this morning, enters kayaker 71.
““(kayaker 71) So the Kochs ought to be paying more than the law says they should. I am sure, because of your belief in higher taxes and more government spending, that you send the IRS a little extra at tax time….. you know, just to make you feel better. If you want to get a big old hard on about who pays what, you are blaming the wrong people. Congress makes tax law in this country, or did, the last time I checked. And they could have changed the tax laws anytime in the last 50 or so years but have elected not to do so.”
(Paul) kayaker 71, that pretty much parallels what Sinkwich said yesterday about corporations when I asked him if he was fine that corporations that make billions, in fact get taxpayer subsidies (Facebooks’s on par with Solyndra) pay zero federal income tax. He said it didn’t bother him a bit, repeated what you said about not paying more than legally required, etc.
But I asked Sinkwich a followup, which he ducked. I’m hoping you’ll address it.
Given your response, are you also ‘fine’ that 47% of Americans pay no federal income tax? Because they shouldn’t pay more than is legally required? Because Congress made the laws and these people are obeying them? You’re fine if a corporation with profits of over a billion a year pays no tax and gets taxpayer assistance, you feel the same when it’s a single mom earning $25,000 a year, right?”
kayaker 71 responded in context of the single mom getting her earnings from welfare. When his error was pointed out, he left.
Then in popped td. True to form, he completely missed the big issue and zeroed in on how many single moms earn $25,000. We’re still in ‘td: f-o-c-u-s’ mode with him. Lots of slipping and sliding and yelling ‘Look, squirrel!!!’ but we’re hanging in there in attempting to have him address the big issue.
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
February 21st, 2013
3:57 pm
DDR
My 3:53 should do it. If not, http://tbogg.firedoglake.com/2013/02/21/a-tri-cornered-sombrero-is-a-very-hard-thing-to-find/
moonbat betty
February 21st, 2013
3:58 pm
Kam,
Why do liberal websites constantly photoshop words onto the protester’s signs and try to pass them off as legit?
~Rhetorical question…No need to answer.
td
February 21st, 2013
3:58 pm
DebbieDoRight – Minister Of Propaganda
February 21st, 2013
3:49 pm
“ANSWER HIS QUESTION AND STOP RUNNING FROM THE TRUTH!!”
What truth are you talking about? The truth of that both political parties use the tax code to pay off people that put them in power? The truth that our tax system needs a total overhaul? The truth that our taxes are way to high because we are paying for people to not take responsibility for their actions?
That Black Guy
February 21st, 2013
3:58 pm
Kamchak ~Thug from the Steppes
February 21st, 2013
2:53 pm
No, since he wasn’t in the US Senate at the time he had no vote on it. You know (or maybe you don’t) that it only takes a minute or two of your time to keep from looking like a total fool.
Really? When did he vote for either war? When did he become a Senator? When did the wars start? Hmmmmmmmm………. you didn’t REALLY mean to type to stupidity did you? You were just kidding right?
Ouch, that had to hurt.
________________________
In other words…
Knuts meet Boot.
getalife
February 21st, 2013
4:00 pm
Harvick wins again.
One more win and he dominated Daytona.
Brosephus™
February 21st, 2013
4:02 pm
Paul
One of these days you will tire of getting Charlie Browned. No matter how many times you try, they are gonna move the football. You’re more likely to buy a talking horse that will give you an honest answer before any of these pissant ideologues give you one.
Simple Truths
February 21st, 2013
4:03 pm
Oh they are! Well then, I’ll have an order of General Tso’s Chicken and Pork Fried Rice.
Mr. Ed
February 21st, 2013
4:03 pm
HELLO WILBUR
Kamchak ~Thug from the Steppes
February 21st, 2013
4:04 pm
Dance betty, dance
http://politicalhumor.about.com/od/funnypictures/ig/Funny-Protest-Signs/Make-English-Official-.htm
http://www.changingworld.com/catalog/broken-english-should-make-official-language-protest-sign-make-english-americas-offical-language-click-read-more-fertile-meme-postcard-broken-english-signs-postcard-emma-goldman-quote-p-5461.html
getalife
February 21st, 2013
4:04 pm
“The truth that our taxes are way to high because we are paying for people to not take responsibility for their actions?”
Yeah, banks, corporate and mic welfare of trillions.
They are the modern day robber barons.
St Simons - he-ne-ha
February 21st, 2013
4:05 pm
“Laura Bush asks to be edited out of pro-gay marriage ad”
Still – I loved her in that first Batman movie.
td
February 21st, 2013
4:09 pm
getalife
February 21st, 2013
4:04 pm
“The truth that our taxes are way to high because we are paying for people to not take responsibility for their actions?”
Yeah, banks, corporate and mic welfare of trillions.
They are the modern day robber barons.
Welfare is where the government is giving you money. To be able to keep the money you earned is NOT welfare.
moonbat betty
February 21st, 2013
4:09 pm
Kam, still photoshopped…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zbJ9gNn9DQc
Paul
February 21st, 2013
4:09 pm
td
“ANSWER HIS QUESTION AND STOP RUNNING FROM THE TRUTH!!”
What truth are you talking about?”
I believe the truth to which DDR’s referring is ‘answer the question.’
Here it is again. Always good to hit reset and get back on track.
Given your response that you’re fine with corporations who earn profits not paying federal income taxes because they are obeying the law and should not pay more than lawfully required, are you also ‘fine’ that 47% of Americans pay no federal income tax? Because they shouldn’t pay more than is legally required? Because Congress made the laws and these people are obeying them? You’re fine if a corporation with profits of over a billion a year pays no tax and gets taxpayer assistance, you feel the same when it’s a single mom earning $25,000 a year, right?”
(if the ’single mom’ part trips you up, just substitute ‘families and individuals of low to moderate means)
getalife
February 21st, 2013
4:10 pm
td,
You enable it.
DebbieDoRight - Minister Of Propaganda
February 21st, 2013
4:11 pm
When his error was pointed out, he left.
Keep up the good work Paul! OMG! this NEVAH gets old!
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Moone: Why do liberal websites constantly photoshop words onto the protester’s signs and try to pass them off as legit?
Because it’s funnier than, “Obama is as Marxist Liberal Commie Sympathizer!!!”? Libs like to laugh too.
Here’s my favorite sign. I laugh everytime I see that one! Someone even wrote a song about that sign! Another classic!
======
td — Don’t get mad at ME ’cause you can’t answer Paul’s simple question! I will not become your scapegoat! Sorry.
Paul
February 21st, 2013
4:12 pm
Brosephus
It’s like JamVet pointed out to me years ago: many, many people peruse this blog and never post. Some who do post take it all in and arrive at conclusions about the strengths and weaknesses and inconsistencies in various positions. Sometimes those thoughts get lifted and posted on other forums.
But once in a while, I just like watching what happens when the dim light of understanding appears and the sailor, in a panic as he gets closer, realizes he isn’t going to reach the horizon and drop off.
But most of our sailors simply turn the ship around, wipe their foreheads and mutter, ‘whew! THAT was a close one…”
Class of '98
February 21st, 2013
4:13 pm
We know the specific buildings the cyber attacks are coming from in China.
Obama should calmly tell the Chinese that if our power grid, water, etc. is compromised, and one American loses their life as a result, we will use tactical nuclear weapons to eliminate the cyber-threat in China.
Yes, I mean that. But I have no faith that Obama would have the stones to even consider an action like this.
getalife
February 21st, 2013
4:14 pm
Nuke em!
Too funny
Kamchak ~Thug from the Steppes
February 21st, 2013
4:17 pm
Dance betty, dance
http://rebello.files.wordpress.com/2008/10/000638.jpg
td
February 21st, 2013
4:18 pm
Paul
February 21st, 2013
4:09 pm
I think I have answered your question a few times. I think the current tax system sucks. I am with many Republicans that have advocated a flat tax that everyone has to pay or totally doing away with the income tax and going to a consumption tax.
williebkind
February 21st, 2013
4:18 pm
You guys and gals are not really complaining about taxation but rather the salary or bonuses the other guy makes while you dont. Minimum wage $18 and max wage $1.8m. If you make more than 1.8m you get taxed a 90% that goes strait to social security funds.
DebbieDoRight - Minister Of Propaganda
February 21st, 2013
4:19 pm
Still – I loved her in that first Batman movie.
You.Are.Soooo.BAD!!!!
I kinda like that…………
RAMZAD
February 21st, 2013
4:20 pm
The Chinese government is a greater threat to US security than AlQuida could ever be. The Chinese are trying to put the US in a position where it would neutralize our capacity to respond to certain national and international emergency situations.
It seems to me that the US should detach from China by educating our people to make what we need and return to markets with less hostile governments. My imagination tells me that some US defense and offense systems are so profoundly compromised by China that in a crisis they would be rendered useless.
williebkind
February 21st, 2013
4:20 pm
I am for a consumption tax if there has to be a tax.
williebkind
February 21st, 2013
4:21 pm
And you have to have a 666 on your right hand or forehead to buy or sell.
moonbat betty
February 21st, 2013
4:21 pm
lol Kam.
Check out Gallway’s latest blog and you can see my “real” picture.
Jefferson
February 21st, 2013
4:22 pm
Federal tax rates some of the lowest in 50 years and then the spending problems appear.
moonbat betty
February 21st, 2013
4:22 pm
Galloway’s..
moonbat betty
February 21st, 2013
4:23 pm
Oh, forgot to post your dance song, Kam:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OdQDXs75Ulo
DebbieDoRight - Minister Of Propaganda
February 21st, 2013
4:24 pm
But I have no faith that Obama would have the stones to even consider an action like this.
Dubya, “I’m not really worried about Finding BinLaden” Bush says “Huh”? And “Duh”….
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4PGmnz5Ow-o
That Black Guy
February 21st, 2013
4:27 pm
moonbat betty
February 21st, 2013
3:54 pm
“He was so fat, he had buttcheeks.”
Did his belly drag the ground?
_______________________________
Belly and everything else.
DebbieDoRight - Minister Of Propaganda
February 21st, 2013
4:28 pm
WillieHebBlind: You guys and gals are not really complaining about taxation but rather the salary or bonuses the other guy makes while you dont.
How did you come up with that blind ? did Rush tell you that? Or was that just some random thought that came and flickered through your brains real quick?
moonbat betty
February 21st, 2013
4:29 pm
“Belly and everything else.”
Oh man, that would suck.
Paul
February 21st, 2013
4:29 pm
td
“I think I have answered your question a few times. I think the current tax system sucks. I am with many Republicans that have advocated a flat tax that everyone has to pay or totally doing away with the income tax and going to a consumption tax.”
That definitely does not answer the question.
It’s like being asked “if big rigs run on diesel, is it a good idea for passenger cars to run on diesel?’ to which you answer “I don’t like how our country is dependent on fossil fuels.
Let me break it down.
Either you are okay with corporations following the law and paying zero federal income tax on their profits, and getting additional subsidies, AND you are therefore okay with the 47% paying no federal income tax and maybe getting additional subsidies,
OR
you are okay with corporations following the law and paying zero federal income tax on their profits, and getting additional subsidies, and you are NOT okay with the 47% paying no federal income tax and maybe getting additional subsidies,
I think to many here it’s obvious you go for option 2.
Which one do you advocate?
Brosephus™
February 21st, 2013
4:29 pm
Paul
Keep doing what you do as I love to see them try to dance with two right feet.
td
February 21st, 2013
4:29 pm
Jefferson
February 21st, 2013
4:22 pm
Federal tax rates some of the lowest in 50 years and then the spending problems appear.
Federal tax revenues (money actually coming into the government) is at some of the highest levels ever. Spending is at the highest levels all time.
Brosephus™
February 21st, 2013
4:31 pm
Paul @ 4:29
LMFAO!!!!!!!!!!
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
February 21st, 2013
4:32 pm
Which one do you advocate?
Option 3.
Joe Hussein Mama
February 21st, 2013
4:32 pm
C98 — “Obama should calmly tell the Chinese that if our power grid, water, etc. is compromised, and one American loses their life as a result, we will use tactical nuclear weapons to eliminate the cyber-threat in China. Yes, I mean that. But I have no faith that Obama would have the stones to even consider an action like this.”
Such an action would be more indicative of a loss of one’s marbles than of being in possession of ’stones.’
DebbieDoRight - Minister Of Propaganda
February 21st, 2013
4:33 pm
td picked Door #3 – He’s going to ignore you and if that doesn’t work he’s going to leave the blog and come back as his evil twin from the 5th dimension, Liberal Blog Eater.
I’ve got to get more popcorn to prepare for his return!
DebbieDoRight - Minister Of Propaganda
February 21st, 2013
4:35 pm
Federal tax revenues (money actually coming into the government) is at some of the highest levels ever. Spending is at the highest levels all time.
td — are you high?
td
February 21st, 2013
4:38 pm
Paul
February 21st, 2013
4:29 pm
Well since corporations do not really pay taxes (all they do is figure the taxes into the cost of the goods or services they pay and pass them onto the customer in the form of higher prices) and that a large % of those 47% are not only not paying their fair share but also, due to their irresponsible actions, are a drain on the rest of society then I will choose option 2.
Does that make you feel better.
td
February 21st, 2013
4:42 pm
DebbieDoRight – Minister Of Propaganda
February 21st, 2013
4:35 pm
Federal tax revenues (money actually coming into the government) is at some of the highest levels ever. Spending is at the highest levels all time.
td — are you high?
Go check out the numbers are come back and tell me who is high?
http://www.taxpolicycenter.org/taxfacts/displayafact.cfm?Docid=200
Paul
February 21st, 2013
4:43 pm
td
“Well since corporations do not really pay taxes (all they do is figure the taxes into the cost of the goods or services they pay and pass them onto the customer in the form of higher prices)”
As I’ve stated here before, my brother is a controller with a Fortune 500 corporation. I asked him one time how he’d respond to that statement. His response (please don’t take this personally, unlike me, he’s a person of very few words was) ‘why do you spend time talking to idiots?”
But regardless of your reasoning, thanks for answering. Lower-to-middle income-earning people and households – like some of our military – are irresponsible and a drain on society, while corporations don’t pay taxes so it doesn’t really matter.
Got it.
Don’t want it, want to wash after, but I got it.
dixie normous
February 21st, 2013
4:45 pm
Just saw a video of barry demanding sequester. DEMANDING IT!!
DebbieDoRight - Minister Of Propaganda
February 21st, 2013
4:46 pm
I will choose option 2.
FINALLY!! After 3 hours, 6 jigs, 4 U-turns, 22 reversals, and 110 deflections, td finally answers Paul’s question!
Finaly! As in FINALLY the ice age was over! thank you td; you may now take off that dunce cap and rejoin the rest of the class.
You’ve earned it.
PS: td — you picked Option #2, guess what? No one on the blog was surprised!
Brosephus™
February 21st, 2013
4:48 pm
that a large % of those 47% are not only not paying their fair share but also, due to their irresponsible actions, are a drain on the rest of society
Methinks someone doesn’t know of the groups that comprises the fabled 47%.
Btw… check that Joe Gibbs power!!!!!
getalife
February 21st, 2013
4:51 pm
My home boy wins .
Paul
February 21st, 2013
4:51 pm
ummm.. td…..
“td — are you high?
Go check out the numbers are come back and tell me who is high?”
You might want to look at your links before you post. Or at least understand them.
See the middle column? It’s labeled ‘constant’ dollars. Accounts for the time value of money. Converts all years to same value as they’d have in a specified year. Because a dollar in 1920 is worth a different amount than a dollar in 2010.
But back to that middle section. Constant 2005 dollars.
See the receipts for 09, 10 and 11? Let’s go thru this. Take 2010. Receipts are 1,899 (in billions). Now lets back up to 2001 (guess who was president then?). Receipts are 2,215.3. Rule of Thumb: 1,899 is LOWER than $2,215.3 and 2001 is BEFORE 2010.
Now if you want to have even more fun take a look at ‘receipts as percent of GDP” (That’s “Gross Domestic Product.” Smaller numbers mean it’s less than larger numbers.
Common Sense isn't very Common
February 21st, 2013
4:53 pm
DDR
I’m not speaking to you any longer. You said you liked most of the other regulars, but forgot ME LOL.
phttp
josef
February 21st, 2013
4:54 pm
“The Chinese gov’t knows that you’re reading this”
Yeah, but Big Daddy knows what I’m going to say before I say it…he’s inscrutable.
DebbieDoRight - Minister Of Propaganda
February 21st, 2013
4:56 pm
Go check out the numbers are come back and tell me who is high?
You still win.
Did you happen to look at the chart you referenced? And if you did, did you take a gander at the year 1944? Does it support your statement that ,” Spending is at the highest levels all time”? or refutes it?
Just wondering.
Jackie
February 21st, 2013
4:56 pm
@Paul
You are too good. LOL LOL LOL
alex
February 21st, 2013
4:57 pm
@ jefferson, what were the federal tax rates before the “great depression”? In fairness, if the govt could figure a way of taxing individuals and corporations correctly and COLLECTING the taxes, we could be in better shape,.. see last weeks “economist”
Old Physics Teacher
February 21st, 2013
4:57 pm
I wonder what happen under a Republican administration if it’s ever found out the Cuba or Iran is trying to hack our networks? Would we be invading those countries to bring freedom to their people? Would we install a new government and send our soldiers out to be targets while roaming the streets trolling for IEDs? Why won’t we do it to China?
josef
February 21st, 2013
4:58 pm
PAUL
It’s Thursday in a month with 28 days…what’s my assignment should I choose to accept it?
td
February 21st, 2013
4:59 pm
Paul
February 21st, 2013
4:43 pm
First, (do not take this the wrong way and it is not personal) but your brother is a total dumb ass or is lying to you if he is saying taxes are not factored into the bottom line. I am a small business owner that sells a service and a property landlord that rents houses and can tell you without hesitation that the taxes I have to pay are calculated into the prices I charge or the rent I ask for.
A company or corporation is in business to make a profit. If you do not make a profit then you go out of business (that is called bankruptcy) Taxes are an expense of doing business. When you are prices a product or service then you add up all of your expenses and then you add in your profit margin and then that is the price you charge.
To say taxes are not embedded into the price of products or services are just crazy.
DebbieDoRight - Minister Of Propaganda
February 21st, 2013
5:01 pm
Common – I didn’t get a chance to put down the sexiest bloggers of all time!!
Just when I was getting ready to do it, KAM posted something that was so funny he made me laugh and gave me the hiccups.
I would’ve made sure to put you on the “Top 10 Sexy” list if it wasn’t for Kam. Kam KNEW I wanted to add you to the sexy list and he deliberately posted that funny link.
Kam is a hater.
Common Sense isn't very Common
February 21st, 2013
5:05 pm
DDR
well when you go to court make sure you wear the black lace and boa and I MAY forgive you.
Paul
February 21st, 2013
5:05 pm
josef
How about picking up the Bosch tradition? You know, nekkid pagan dancing in the field in the moonlight?
Had a pic for you on Monday. ’cause I thought it was Mormon Monday. Or is it Wednesday? Anyway, it was on a Facebook page and said “No, I don’t give anything up for Lent. I’m Mormon. We freaking do that 365 days a year.”
Paul
February 21st, 2013
5:08 pm
td
“First, (do not take this the wrong way and it is not personal) but your brother is a total dumb ass or is lying to you if he is saying taxes are not factored into the bottom line.”
Riiight…. comptroller of a Fortune 500 company. Dumb ass. Or liar. You are quite despicable in your attempts to build yourself up. You know quite well you did not state ‘taxes are factored into the bottom line.” You clearly stated “Well since corporations do not really pay taxes (all they do is figure the taxes into the cost of the goods or services they pay and pass them onto the customer in the form of higher prices)”
You even lack the integrity to stand by what you say and instead try to weasel out, again.
Brosephus™
February 21st, 2013
5:09 pm
First, (do not take this the wrong way and it is not personal) but your brother is a total dumb ass or is lying to you if he is saying taxes are not factored into the bottom line. I am a small business owner that sells a service and a property landlord that rents houses and can tell you without hesitation that the taxes I have to pay are calculated into the prices I charge or the rent I ask for.
Sounds like your small business could use the expertise of a Fortune 500 law group.
Just sayin’…
DebbieDoRight - Minister Of Propaganda
February 21st, 2013
5:10 pm
The boa and black lace? Got it! (You’re easy!
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hiya josef!!
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Well, I’m out! Need to hit the road before the rains come. Have a great Thursday everyone!
JamVet
February 21st, 2013
5:10 pm
Yes, watching Paul dismantle the intellectually dishonest and/or lacking is always a great time…
(How DID that absentee ballot get in my mailbox?! LOL!)
DebbieDoRight - Minister Of Propaganda
February 21st, 2013
5:11 pm
For td:
DDR: “Do not try and bend the spoon—that’s impossible. Instead, only try to realize the truth.”
TD: “What truth?”
DDR: “There is no spoon.”
Joe Hussein Mama
February 21st, 2013
5:12 pm
O. P. Teacher — “Why won’t we do it to China?”
The Chinese People’s Liberation Army, that’s why (the entire Chinese military). It’s the single largest standing army in the world, and it’s about half again the size of ours.
Even if you add in reserves and paramilitary organizations like our Coast Guard, the Chinese *still* have half again as many people in uniform as we do; about 4.5 million compared to 3 million. And they have a LOT more people to draw from to build up their military. If the Chinese had as many people per capita in uniform as we do, their military would be TRIPLE its current size.
Joe Hussein Mama
February 21st, 2013
5:17 pm
Sheets, yo.
td
February 21st, 2013
5:17 pm
Paul
February 21st, 2013
4:51 pm
ummm.. td…..
“You might want to look at your links before you post. Or at least understand them.”
Oh I understand them and will get back to that a little later.
“See the middle column? It’s labeled ‘constant’ dollars. Accounts for the time value of money. Converts all years to same value as they’d have in a specified year. Because a dollar in 1920 is worth a different amount than a dollar in 2010.”
And why are they taking 2005 dollars as the standard?
“See the receipts for 09, 10 and 11? Let’s go thru this. Take 2010. Receipts are 1,899 (in billions). Now lets back up to 2001 (guess who was president then?). Receipts are 2,215.3. Rule of Thumb: 1,899 is LOWER than $2,215.3 and 2001 is BEFORE 2010.”
Now let us take a closer look at these fuzzy numbers: 2005 says that we took in real money of 2,153.6 and that was worth 2,153.6 but then in 2006 real revenues was 2,406.9 but was only worth 2,324.1. Wow in one years period of time real revenues went up but magically are worth a considerable amount less then just the year before. The main point is that you want to take these fuzzy math number instead of the real numbers?
“Now if you want to have even more fun take a look at ‘receipts as percent of GDP” (That’s “Gross Domestic Product.” Smaller numbers mean it’s less than larger numbers.”
Why should government revenue remain a % of GDP? If that is the case then why are you progressives gripping so much about what is spent on the military when as a % of GDP it is way lower then it has ever been. Mean tested entitlement programs as a % of GDP is at all time highs as well. Should we not cap them as a % of GDP?
Paul
February 21st, 2013
5:21 pm
td
Go to your local community college and take a course in cost accounting. And cost analysis. You’re asking pretty basic questions. Or anything dealing with present values and future values.
And don’t answer test questions with “you want to take these fuzzy math numbers instead of the real numbers?”
TaxPayer
February 21st, 2013
5:44 pm
I see our resident cons, when confronted with more reality that they have yet to contend with in reality, continue to try to create yet another denialist dimension to park themselves in. Poor cons.
Vast Right Wing Conspiracy (aka "Knuckle-Dragger")
February 21st, 2013
8:28 pm
Their information gathering may explain why their purchases and sales of U. S. Treasuries basically zero out over the last two years. Who are we going to sell these pigs to – the Greeks?
Joel Edge
February 22nd, 2013
6:27 am
” It is, at some level, a violation of our national sovereignty.”
If you could only get as outraged at other violations of our sovereignty, Jay. You know…maybe somebody doing something illegal.
Morality?
February 22nd, 2013
12:05 pm
Guess I was on here briefly yesterday unless I have a double. Forgot – so shoot me. that does not change the FACT that Obama voted to fund the Iraq and Afghan conflicts. Please tell me why he voted to fund something he was against it? Unless there were other motives there like him and the Dems getting “W” to sign off on the expansion of the SOCIALIST social programs in return for financial support for the “wars”. Obama is just another politician and they all have their price.
Morality?
February 22nd, 2013
12:14 pm
Fact is that Obama voted to financially support the Iraq and Afghanistan conflicts – he voted YES. Doesn’t matter his agenda – he voted YES.
Morality?
February 22nd, 2013
12:19 pm
Obama was evaluated and found to be the 2nd most liberal voting member of Congress behind Bernie Sanders, the only admitted Socialist in Congress. Obama never NO when it cam to spending and expanding the role of the Fed gub’ment – never mind that we couldn’t pay for it. Obama voted to send us over the FISCAL cliff.