The Chinese gov’t knows that you’re reading this
“Start asking security experts which powerful Washington institutions have been penetrated by Chinese cyberspies, and this is the usual answer: almost all of them.
The list of those hacked in recent years includes law firms, think tanks, news organizations, human rights groups, contractors, congressional offices, embassies and federal agencies.
The information compromised by such intrusions, security experts say, would be enough to map how power is exercised in Washington to a remarkably nuanced degree. The only question, they say, is whether the Chinese have the analytical resources to sort through the massive troves of data they steal every day….
“They’re trying to make connections between prominent people who work at think tanks, prominent donors that they’ve heard of and how the government makes decisions,” said Dan Blumenthal, director of Asian studies at the American Enterprise Institute, which also has been hacked. “It’s a sophisticated intelligence-gathering effort at trying to make human-network linkages of people in power, whether they be in Congress or the executive branch.”
According to experts, the Chinese hack everybody. They hack major corporations and steal trade secrets — attacks against Google, Apple, the Wall Street Journal and the New York Times have been publicized in recent years. They hack lowly individual dissidents. They hack, or attempt to hack, major agencies in the U.S. government, including the Pentagon, CIA and White House and most certainly the Department of Commerce. Given the byzantine ways of the Chinese government, they almost certainly hack each other as well.
The natural response to such a discovery is outrage, and to some degree that outrage is justified. It is, at some level, a violation of our national sovereignty. But it gets complicated because China is hardly alone. A lot of other countries are aggressive about hacking into overseas computer networks, including the Israelis, the French and the Russians.
Oh, and the Americans too. It would be naive in the extreme to believe that the U.S. government isn’t running cyber-spying operations of its own. Those operations probably don’t extend to efforts to steal commercial secrets of foreign companies so that data can then be handed to U.S. companies, which the Chinese and other governments do. But on issues of national security, we are no doubt just as invasive as anybody else.
In other words, while everybody is a victim in this thing, everybody is also a villain. Nobody’s clean.
It’s also important to distinguish between cyberspying and cyberwarfare. If you can penetrate a highly sensitive computer network and steal data, you may also be able to do great damage to that network at a time of your choosing.
As President Obama put it in his State of the Union address:
“We know foreign countries and companies swipe our corporate secrets. Now our enemies are also seeking the ability to sabotage our power grid, our financial institutions, our air-traffic control systems. We cannot look back years from now and wonder why we did nothing in the face of real threats to our security and our economy.”
And again, it would be naive to believe that the U.S. government is not building similar capacity to bring down important computer networks in other countries, just in case it’s needed. In this game, like any other, you need to be able to play offense as well as defense.
To handle such duties, in 2010 the Defense Department created the U.S. CyberCommand, which is now slated for a major expansion. Eighty percent of the thousands of new personnel to be devoted to the effort will be military; 20 percent will be civilian experts. In fact, some of that expanded operation may be headquartered right here in Georgia, at Fort Gordon outside Augusta. That would be a big economic boost to the state, given the potential high-tech spinoffs from such an operation.
In other words, what we’re witnessing is a quiet, high-stakes state of virtual warfare that will be permanent and escalating.
– Jay Bookman
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keith
February 21st, 2013
10:35 am
obama says that if HIS sequester plan takes effect local first resonders will lose their jobs, so rabid obamabots, when did the federal govt start paying local first responders?
Look before I leap...
February 21st, 2013
10:35 am
“Of course it took all of 5 seconds to hack a Mac”
That of course would be a Mac Attack.
Joe Hussein Mama
February 21st, 2013
10:36 am
Brosephus — “Chinese women don’t have enough booty for a brother. If it’s for my enjoyment, it has to be “Big, Bouncing Black Badonkadonk #17″ as nothing less will do.”
I believe this gentleman’s word to be authoritative on the matter and I trust that no further discussion on the topic is warranted.
DownInAlbany
February 21st, 2013
10:37 am
kayaker 71
February 21st, 2013
10:27 am
Other subjects you’ll not find on this blog…
With Election Over, Obama Announces Medicare Cuts to Fund ObamaCare
GAO Report: Obama’s Policies ‘Not Sustainable’
Fred ™
February 21st, 2013
10:38 am
Brocephus said the code word:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=reTx5sqvVJ4
Joe Hussein Mama
February 21st, 2013
10:38 am
Jefferson — “When the uniformed hollar “Ponzi” very few even know who the man was, much less which of his schemes they are talking about. None lasted 75 years. Its a sign.”
Just an observation . . .
in 2021, Social Security will have been in operation longer than Bear Stearns was.
kayaker 71
February 21st, 2013
10:38 am
Debbie, 10:31,
So the Kochs ought to be paying more than the law says they should. I am sure, because of your belief in higher taxes and more government spending, that you send the IRS a little extra at tax time….. you know, just to make you feel better. If you want to get a big old hard on about who pays what, you are blaming the wrong people. Congress makes tax law in this country, or did, the last time I checked. And they could have changed the tax laws anytime in the last 50 or so years but have elected not to do so.
JamVet
February 21st, 2013
10:39 am
Does the Chinese Government know how incompetent our TSA Airport Screeners are…
BWAHAHAHAHAHAH!!!!!
George you are apparently NOT very curious at all!
Educate yourself and look up the shameful track record of their predecessors – the disgraceful Argenbright security (Atlanta based).
Criminals galore, staggering incompetency, before during and AFTER 9/11.
But hey, I forgot, the gub’mint can’t do anything right, huh?
Look before I leap...
February 21st, 2013
10:40 am
““Big, Bouncing Black Badonkadonk #17″
In other words..NeNe Leakes
Girl must been something fierce to watch when she was strippin.
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
February 21st, 2013
10:40 am
“COMPUTER RAID PEARL HARBOR …… THIS IS NO DRILL !”
Steve
February 21st, 2013
10:40 am
I’m really proud of you guys. Nobody has posted “Obozo” yet.
Brosephus™
February 21st, 2013
10:41 am
JHM
—————–
Fred
I figured that was common knowledge.
BOHICA
February 21st, 2013
10:42 am
Jay,
I hate to quible, however, your argument that since we also conduct cyberwarfare makes us equally guilty as the Chinese is not an argument that holds water. It reminds me of that “false equivalence” argument that some journalist engage in to be seen as “objective”. I think that we would have heard from private experts in the field of cyber security if the US was conducting unethical activities in this regard. The evidence of Chinese abuse in this overwhelming and we need to call a Spade a Spade.
The Chinese want to dominate any and all economic competitors any way they can.
I don’t think that our attempts to slow the Iranians down using cyberwarfare (STUXNET) was a bad thing.
ps. forgive me if i implied somehow that you were trying to be “objective”!
DebbieDoRight - Minister Of Propaganda
February 21st, 2013
10:42 am
In Apr, 2011, Bozo, in full campaign to look more presidential and imply that he was cutting spending, stated that he would veto any attempt to interfere with the sequestration involving cuts in defense and social programs.
OMG do you people ever actually try to find out the truth for yourselves? Or do you just repeat, in perfect puppet style, everything you hear on Faux News?!?
take the hand outta your butt and think for your self!
NOBODYYOUKNOW
February 21st, 2013
10:43 am
The Chinese are more interested in what we’re thinking and doing than the administation in Washington.
Brosephus™
February 21st, 2013
10:43 am
Look
LMAO!!!!
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
February 21st, 2013
10:43 am
“In other words, while everybody is a victim in this thing, everybody is also a villain. Nobody’s clean.”
Typical comment as liberals have trouble distinguishing freedom loving countries from despotic ones, the FBI from the Mafia, good citizens with guns vs. criminals with guns, UGA from Ga. Tech, etc., etc,. etc.
Latrina
February 21st, 2013
10:44 am
This computer hacking, cyberspying etc. is becoming rampant at the same time we’re being aggressively pushed to conduct business transactions online. Some of the outfits I deal with are even offering to pay me $ to switch from mail to online billing.
Say what you will about the Postal Service, first class mail is a lot safer than cyberspace.
St Simons - he-ne-ha
February 21st, 2013
10:44 am
Bro, same with my kind.
I’m pretty sure the lyrics are not “i like flat butts and i cannot lie”
I mean, an entire song can’t be wrong.
Paul
February 21st, 2013
10:44 am
Lots of factors at work here. One may be simply to try to understand us. But to what end that understanding will be put is open to question.
Another is their obsession with information, any information, all information. It’s a hallmark of a paranoid leadership within autocratic governments. China’s interesting – trying to loosen economic freedom, which leads to a loss of control, which leads to greater efforts to monitor and control. Just because it’s widespread and covers many facets does not mean it’s indiscriminate.
But the real question is, to what end is that knowledge used? There was this Chinese guy born a couple thousand years ago. Chinese revere him. Nearly every modern military person in a responsible position is at least marginally familiar with his works. Graduate courses in business study him. Sun Tzu. Wrote “The Art of War.” It’s pretty short, but one can spend weeks studying and applying a few sentences. Chapter 13, “The Use of Spies’ states:
“…Hostile armies may face each other for years, striving for the victory which is decided in a single day. This being so, to remain in ignorance of the enemy’s condition simply because one grudges the outlay of a hundred ounces of silver in honors and emoluments, is the height of inhumanity…what enables the wise sovereign and the good general to strike and conquer, and achieve things beyond the reach of ordinary men, is FOREKNOWLEDGE. Now this foreknowledge cannot be elicited from spirits; it cannot be obtained inductively from experience, nor by any deductive calculation. Knowledge of the enemy’s dispositions can only be obtained from other men…Without subtle ingenuity of mind, one cannot make certain of the truth of their reports. Be subtle! be subtle! and use your spies for every kind of business…The end and aim of spying in all its five varieties is knowledge of the enemy…”
AmericaShrugged
February 21st, 2013
10:44 am
Weapons, plenty of ammo, and canned food. When the grid goes down your cash ain’t nothin but trash.
Brosephus™
February 21st, 2013
10:46 am
DDR
Based on that sentence, I AM NOT clicking that link…
Joe Hussein Mama
February 21st, 2013
10:46 am
JamVet — “Educate yourself and look up the shameful track record of their predecessors – the disgraceful Argenbright security (Atlanta based).”
You know, this is the second time this week one of our cons has screeched out some piffle about how fantastic a job privut industree could do with airport security, as if they’ve completely forgotten that Argenbright went zero-for-nineteen on 9/11.
Wonder which con screamer got them started on the topic?
Erwin's cat
February 21st, 2013
10:46 am
Sun Tzu. Wrote “The Art of War.
a good read
Look before I leap...
February 21st, 2013
10:46 am
“Weapons, plenty of ammo, and canned food. When the grid goes down your cash ain’t nothin but trash.”
In other words, gold, guns and goobers.
Fred ™
February 21st, 2013
10:46 am
Not exactly right Steve but maybe on a technicality……..
Kayaker@ 10:27: In Apr, 2011, Bozo, in full campaign………..
Joe Hussein Mama
February 21st, 2013
10:48 am
0311 — “good citizens with guns vs. criminals with guns”
I don’t care who you are or what your motives are. If you whip out a piece and start trading fire with a bad guy and you hit me or my wife, you’re a bad guy to me and I’ll sue the living spit out of you.
Keep Up the Good Fight!
February 21st, 2013
10:49 am
Paul, good post. Knowing the weaknesses in the supply systems, the secrets hidden by certain officials and other information may be as critical as knowing how many tanks.
Steve
February 21st, 2013
10:51 am
I’m not sure that guns and ammo will help you for very long unless you’re living in a bunker filled with food. Others with guns and ammo will eventually get you.
Redneck Convert (R--and proud of it)
February 21st, 2013
10:51 am
Some of the outfits I deal with are even offering to pay me $ to switch from mail to online billing.
Well, I turn every one of them down. If they’re going to bill me they’re going to have to pay for a stamp just like I do. And I ain’t letting them raid my checking account whenever they feel like it. And if they owe me money they’re going to have to pay to send it to me. I ain’t letting them hold onto my money till the very last minute so they can keep earning interest on it. And I don’t plan on being a slave to a computer to know when I need to pay a bill.
And finally, GET OFF OF MY DAMN*D LAWN!
Partisay
February 21st, 2013
10:53 am
kayaker 71 – “But it’s better to demonize those evil people who give money to support something that they believe in and, horrors……. make money at the same time…. lots of money.”
So I take it you have no problem with Soros? After all, I’m sure he believes in what he gives money for.
td
February 21st, 2013
10:53 am
If you want to think about something scary then look no further at how the Democratic party (example purpose only not attempting to slur because both parties will do this by 2016) used data mining and person specific marketing to get maximize voter turnout last year. The party was able to gather enough individual data on people to determine if the person was a potential voter and then gathered enough information of the person to be able to specifically market (brainwash) that person to think they were on the exact same mindset as Obama.
Fred ™
February 21st, 2013
10:53 am
Say what you will about the Postal Service, first class mail is a lot safer than cyberspace.
Until Billy Bob in his station wagon drives down your street stealing everything out of the mailboxes………..
TaxPayer
February 21st, 2013
10:54 am
Republicans do not want to lay claim to the current sequester legislation that they signed off on because in reality they want much deeper spending cuts that include Medicaid, Medicare, Social Security and Veteran’s benefits along with increases military spending and tax cuts for the wealthiest. Now THAT is the sequester that they want and are holding out for.
DebbieDoRight - Minister Of Propaganda
February 21st, 2013
10:54 am
Chinese women don’t have enough booty for a brother. If it’s for my enjoyment, it has to be “Big, Bouncing Black Badonkadonk #17″ as nothing less will do
Bro — It’s his white half that found her fine. Don’t hate.
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Fred — Great Baby Got Back Shout out!! You go boy!
Turn around stick it out, even white boys got to shout!
LA face with an Oakland booty!
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k71 — To those much is given, much is expected.
“And again I say unto you, It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle, than for a rich man to enter into the kingdom of God.” — Matthew 19:24
Granny Godzilla
February 21st, 2013
10:54 am
Ni Hao Hu,
can you get me the recipe for the lobster salad from the Kowloon side of Hong Kong?
Thanks, I’d appreciate it.
Logical Dude
February 21st, 2013
10:54 am
Private Security firm: yep, Chinese do a lot of hacking (not coughing)
http://news.yahoo.com/private-us-firms-major-role-vs-cyberattacks-130657582–finance.html
Kamchak ~Thug from the Steppes
February 21st, 2013
10:55 am
…specifically market (brainwash) that person to think…
Dittoheads say, “What?”
Granny Godzilla
February 21st, 2013
10:56 am
td
Brainwash?
I suspect yours could use a shampoo and rinse.
Union
February 21st, 2013
10:56 am
as long as its done with taste..
http://www.rollingstone.com/music/news/computer-virus-might-be-blasting-ac-dc-in-iranian-nuclear-facility-20120725
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
February 21st, 2013
10:57 am
“Mommy”
I don’t care who you are or what your motives are. If you’re driving a car and you hit me or my wife you’re a bad guy to me and I’ll sue the living spit out of you.
Partisay
February 21st, 2013
10:58 am
kayaker 71 – ” If you want to get a big old hard on about who pays what, you are blaming the wrong people.”
A comment like that to Debbie? Dude, show a little class. Jeez….
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
February 21st, 2013
10:58 am
“Mommy”
“Among the many misdeeds of British rule in India, history will look
upon the Act depriving a whole nation of arms as the blackest.”
Mohandas Gandhi, an Autobiography, page 446.
Erwin's cat
February 21st, 2013
10:59 am
as long as its done with taste..
a whole rot of Losie?
Moderate Line
February 21st, 2013
10:59 am
Here is a good link on the opinion of the American people. I suspect that the sequester would hit the Republicans harder than Dems and this poll would seem to indicated this.
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2013/02/21/poll-pew-obama-gop-guns-energy-immigration-sequester/1934233/
barking frog
February 21st, 2013
10:59 am
Well from 1964 to 1968 I was involved in hacking
the voice communications of the Russian and later
the Vietnamese military for the US Air Force
and their client NSA. We were good and so were
they and we also hacked everyone else in all ways.
Probably the same now.
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
February 21st, 2013
11:00 am
BOHICA @ 10:42
You hit the nail on the head !
Brosephus™
February 21st, 2013
11:01 am
St Simons
Mixx-A-Lot is a very wise man.
alex
February 21st, 2013
11:01 am
@ Paul , a course offering in “the great courses” is about Sun Tzu,exclusivley, another discusses him along with other strategic warfare-thinkers (Mahan,Machiavelli, etc.) Interesting how 2000 year old thoughts apply to today, ….Great post….Creepy…
Generation EBTer
February 21st, 2013
11:01 am
As long as I get my free sh*t from ‘bama who cares, suckers?
That Black Guy
February 21st, 2013
11:02 am
Brosephus™
February 21st, 2013
9:29 am
Maybe I should download some Asian bondage porn that shows Chinese men getting humiliated. If you’re going to hack my pc, you may as well have something worth looking at.
________________________________
So, you don’t think your collection of peanutbutter covered nekkid Samoans participating in a frozen monkey nipple tossing contest would do it?
You know, the file you got from Fred.
Paul
February 21st, 2013
11:03 am
“So the Kochs ought to be paying more than the law says they should. I am sure, because of your belief in higher taxes and more government spending, that you send the IRS a little extra at tax time….. you know, just to make you feel better. If you want to get a big old hard on about who pays what, you are blaming the wrong people. Congress makes tax law in this country, or did, the last time I checked. And they could have changed the tax laws anytime in the last 50 or so years but have elected not to do so.”
kayaker 71, that pretty much parallels what Sinkwich said yesterday about corporations when I asked him if he was fine that corporations that make billions, in fact get taxpayer subsidies (Facebooks’s on par with Solyndra) pay zero federal income tax. He said it didn’t bother him a bit, repeated what you said about not paying more than legally required, etc.
But I asked Sinkwich a followup, which he ducked. I’m hoping you’ll address it.
Given your response, are you also ‘fine’ that 47% of Americans pay no federal income tax? Because they shouldn’t pay more than is legally required? Because Congress made the laws and these people are obeying them? You’re fine if a corporation with profits of over a billion a year pays no tax and gets taxpayer assistance, you feel the same when it’s a single mom earning $25,000 a year, right?
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
February 21st, 2013
11:03 am
“Mommy”
This may be more on your level than Ghandi.
“There are no dangerous Weapons,only dangerous Men”.
from the novel – Starship Troopers
Moderate Line
February 21st, 2013
11:04 am
In other words, while everybody is a victim in this thing, everybody is also a villain. Nobody’s clean.
+++++
Good point. I wondering if companies are going to locate or form partnerships with countries willing to engage or tolerate cyber spying.
It’s a new world.
Moderate Line
February 21st, 2013
11:05 am
This is very Machiavellian.
Fred ™
February 21st, 2013
11:06 am
Dang, don’t no one wanna play hooky from work and watch the race…………..
DebbieDoRight - Minister Of Propaganda
February 21st, 2013
11:07 am
And I ain’t letting them raid my checking account whenever they feel like it. And if they owe me money they’re going to have to pay to send it to me. I ain’t letting them hold onto my money till the very last minute so they can keep earning interest on it.
I’m with you on that one RC!
For some reason, no one knows why, it takes a company 20 seconds to take money from you that they feel you owe them, (via having your banking information); but if they’re wrong OR if they owe YOU money, it takes them 2 weeks to put the money back in your account.
“There’s an old saying in Tennessee — I know it’s in Texas, probably in Tennessee — that says, fool me once, shame on — shame on you. Fool me — you can’t get fooled again.”
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As Seen On Breibart
Michelle Obama’s Secret Love!
Little is know about the when and why, but what IS known is that Michelle Obama is secretly carrying on an affair with Anne Coulter.
Recently Anne’s diary has been found, (the liberal illegal mexican maid stole it); in it she detailed the sexual exploits of her and Michelle’s trysts.
The information is too shocking to post here — but we WILL have a link that you can go to, (with re enactments by Vannessa Blue and Jessie Jane), after midnight.
We were shocked, (and amazingly aroused), by what we read! What is the world coming to?
Erwin's cat
February 21st, 2013
11:08 am
Dang, don’t no one wanna play hooky from work and watch the race…
Not a big NAPCAR fan but, are they streaming it anywhere?
Joe Hussein Mama
February 21st, 2013
11:08 am
“Coward” — “I don’t care who you are or what your motives are. If you’re driving a car and you hit me or my wife you’re a bad guy to me and I’ll sue the living spit out of you.”
Fortunately, cars have lots of uses that don’t involve shooting bad guys, whereas shooting bad guys seems to be one of the primary reasons the NRA wants folks to have them. You even alluded to it yourself in trying to distinguish good people with guns from bad people with guns.
If you have a gun and you shoot my or my wife — even accidentally — then you are not a good person to me. Case closed.
“Coward” — ““Among the many misdeeds of British rule in India, history will look
upon the Act depriving a whole nation of arms as the blackest.”
What’s that got to do with NRA yahoos conceivably being bad shots and accidentally plugging innocent bystanders?
Your ignorant posting of that quote might have some currency if I’d ever argued for depriving an entire nation of their firearms, which I haven’t and wouldn’t do. It’s pretty clear to me that you’re completely ignorant of my position on the issue.
Of course, that’s par for the course on your side. Just make spit up and attribute it to your opponents. Maybe some of it will stick.
Saves you the trouble of actually having to listen and pay attention.
Brosephus™
February 21st, 2013
11:08 am
TBG
Shhhhhhhhhhhh!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Everybody will be asking me to make copies for them if they find out that I have the entire DVD set that includes the behind-the-scenes footage.
td
February 21st, 2013
11:08 am
Illinois state senator pushes anti-anonymity bill
“A recently introduced bill in the Illinois state Senate would require anonymous website comment posters to reveal their identities if they want to keep their comments online.
The bill, called the Internet Posting Removal Act, is sponsored by Illinois state Sen. Ira Silverstein. It states that a “web site administrator upon request shall remove any comments posted on his or her web site by an anonymous poster unless the anonymous poster agrees to attach his or her name to the post and confirms that his or her IP address, legal name, and home address are accurate.”
The bill, which does not ask for or clarify requirements from entities requesting the comment removal, would take effect 90 days after becoming law.
Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2013/02/21/illinois-state-senator-pushes-anti-anonymity-bill/#ixzz2LYBkNOvV
JamVet
February 21st, 2013
11:09 am
JHM, I know it that it is very fashionable among the more fanatical of the right wing extremists to loathe pretty much everything about our country’s government of the people, by the people and for the people.
But to what end?
States rights?
Secession?
A free ride?
I remember when the GOP used to pride itself for it’s patriotism and respect, even reverence for Uncle Sam.
Now?
You tell me, because I don’t see it…
Joe Hussein Mama
February 21st, 2013
11:10 am
“Coward” — ““Mommy” This may be more on your level than Ghandi.”
It’s pretty clear that *Gandhi* isn’t on *your* level, since you can’t spell his name correctly.
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
February 21st, 2013
11:13 am
Headline: “Pistorius bail hearing in chaos as lead detective removed from case”
O.J. would be proud !
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
February 21st, 2013
11:15 am
Boy did I get “Mommy” riled up !
LOL !!!
DebbieDoRight - Minister Of Propaganda
February 21st, 2013
11:15 am
US Air Force
and their client NSA
Hmmm so you used to work for the Crystal Palace huh? You’re not as laid back as you pretend to be.
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But I asked Sinkwich a followup, which he ducked. I’m hoping you’ll address it.
Heh. heh. heh…… this is gonna be good…..
Paul
February 21st, 2013
11:16 am
Hi DebbieDoRIght!
I have to duck out for a bit. If kayaker 71 returns, would you please repeat my 11:03 for him? Same for Sinkwich. I just can’t for the life of me understand why it’s so difficult to get a simple answer to a simple question.
Thanks much!
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
February 21st, 2013
11:16 am
Anything to keep him/her busy typing.
Tundra Dude
February 21st, 2013
11:17 am
JB:
In fact, some of that expanded operation may be headquartered right here in Georgia, at Fort Gordon outside Augusta.
Seems to me, the politically smart thing to do is locate these (few thousand?) jobs in swing states, those lite red or blue. I nominate Ohio, Va., or Fla.
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
February 21st, 2013
11:17 am
Off to the dog park. Everyone be nice and get outside ………. it’s a beautiful day !!
getalife
February 21st, 2013
11:21 am
Hi China.
Keep loaning us that money.
Have a nice day.
DebbieDoRight - Minister Of Propaganda
February 21st, 2013
11:22 am
I remember when the GOP used to pride itself for it’s patriotism and respect, even reverence for Uncle Sam.
“Money changes everything”. The Boss. Wise man.
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Mr. Numbers, since you’re here today, I wanted to know if you’ve seen/heard about this and what’s your comment on it.
I’m kinda on the fence about the issue. But I know you feel very strongly about it and wanted your input.
TBone
February 21st, 2013
11:24 am
Maybe the chicoms aren’t satisfied with the return on all of that money the US keeps borrowing from them to support all the gov’t crap and inefficiency that we cannot live without cause we’d die within days. Now they just hack on through our “security” systems to take a peak around to see what they want to cherry pick. This country is being run by rank amateurs.
DebbieDoRight - Minister Of Propaganda
February 21st, 2013
11:26 am
Hiya Paul! Will do! As a matter of fact, I’ll be extremely happy to do it!! As a matter of fact, if i happen to step out and miss them myself, I’ll make SURE to hunt them down if necessary and repeat verbatim everything that you said.
This is gonna be good!!!
Mick
February 21st, 2013
11:28 am
Here’s what I don’t get; if it’s so dangerous to be linked up, why don’t sensitive systems just stay off the internets?
Fred ™
February 21st, 2013
11:32 am
DDR: What’s to be on the fence about? How can you FORCE a woman (or girl) tohave an abortion?
Fred ™
February 21st, 2013
11:33 am
Brocephus? Did you tell TBG about the “collection?” Don’t you know what “on the down low” means?
Kamchak ~Thug from the Steppes
February 21st, 2013
11:33 am
Lawmaker wants to ban anonymous comments from Internet…
drudgey spam.
Fred ™
February 21st, 2013
11:33 am
Here’s what I don’t get; if it’s so dangerous to be linked up, why don’t sensitive systems just stay off the internets?
They do.
Joe Hussein Mama
February 21st, 2013
11:34 am
“Coward” — “Boy did I get “Mommy” riled up !
LOL !!!”
Right after I got *you* riled up, since you sent three unanswered posts in my direction (laughing, pointing)
Fred ™
February 21st, 2013
11:35 am
This country is being run by rank amateurs.
Yeah but the forking idiots who listen to Rushie and watch FOX keep electing those rank amateurs and sending them back to Congress. If we can get rid of that majority Republican Congress then the adults and pro’s can get things done.
Joe Hussein Mama
February 21st, 2013
11:36 am
“Coward” — “Anything to keep him/her busy typing.”
You, like Doom, seem to think that typing is some sort of time-consuming chore for me.
It’s not. (giggling)
Just because it is for you, don’t assume it’s the same for others.
Brosephus™
February 21st, 2013
11:37 am
Fred
I think he hacked my pc or something. I don’t remember telling him anything.
Joe Hussein Mama
February 21st, 2013
11:37 am
“Coward” — “Everyone be nice”
If you want nice, then give nice.
Otherwise, take a flying leap.
getalife
February 21st, 2013
11:38 am
President Obama is doing a great job and the polls show this fact.
Partisay
February 21st, 2013
11:39 am
Where’d Kayaker go? I’ve put off my lunch to wait on his response. I’m gettin hungry…
alex
February 21st, 2013
11:40 am
@ Moderate line;only as to inherint deception and narcissm
Anniston, AL home of the original "Freedom Riders Bombing"
February 21st, 2013
11:42 am
Anniston City Manager Don Hoyt plans to hire a new city attorney, an action he said is part of a movement for “change from the top” at City Hall.
Last week, Hoyt announced his intention to retire by the beginning of September, a recognition, he said, of the public’s cry for change during last fall’s elections.
“I felt like the folks out there wanted change from the top,” he said. “That included me and the city attorney.”
As part of this change, Hoyt notified the City Council on Feb. 11 of his decision to end the city’s relationship with Cleo Thomas, who had served as city attorney since 2009. The city put out requests for qualifications from prospective attorneys on Feb. 14. Hoyt added that Thomas was not an employee of the city and therefore was not fired. Instead, he billed the city for services rendered.
Attempts to reach Thomas on Tuesday were unsuccessful.
Thomas, a longtime Anniston resident and Harvard Law School graduate, is a former member of the University of Alabama board of trustees, and in 1976 became that school’s first black president of the Student Government Association. He also was the first black member of the Anniston Country Club, joining in 1993.
http://www.annistonstar.com/view/full_story/21761594/article-Anniston-City-Council-seeking-new-city-attorney?
Look before I leap...
February 21st, 2013
11:42 am
“Don’t you know what “on the down low” means?”
@Fred
I don’t think the current connotation of “being on the down low” means what you think it does.
TBone
February 21st, 2013
11:43 am
Yeah but the forking idiots who listen to Rushie and watch FOX keep electing those rank amateurs and sending them back to Congress. If we can get rid of that majority Republican Congress then the adults and pro’s can get things done.
You are truly delusional if you want to lay blame for the problems we face on one party or the other or TV and radio programs. Way to keep things objective.
Generation EBTer
February 21st, 2013
11:43 am
Make no mistake, It’s not just Uncle Sam. Don’t forget Daddy Sam,Grandpappy Sam, Brother Sam, Sister Sam, Cousin Sam & if
I failed to mention anyone…
Paul
February 21st, 2013
11:45 am
getalife
Some of these Republicans remind me of an episode from high school. About 300 students in the class, had an election for homecoming queen, one of the girl’s moms who wasn’t elected went to the principal and carried on about how her daughter was so pretty, so popular, so smart, there was NO WAY she wasn’t elected. The voting was rigged. There was a conspiracy. On and on. Finally the principal went to the safe (yep, it was a big deal), pulled out the ballots – and mom found her darling daughter that everyone really, really loved… got a dozen votes.
And that’s what I think of when I think of today’s complaining Republicans.
kayaker 71
February 21st, 2013
11:48 am
Debbie, 10:42,
And you really believe all of this Bozo bullsh*t that he goes around flaunting to his heart’s content. He has lied to the American electorate more than anyone since FDR yet, somehow, the manipulation of the facts seems to trump reality. He has one thing in mind, more money from the wealthy, which he thinks will solve all of our financial woes. Doesn’t solve the problems but it sure helps to get politicians re-elected. This clown would do anything, say anything, true or not, to further his agenda. If you believe most anything that he has to say, your intelligence takes on a whole new meaning. No, Debbie, I don’t believe him and no thinking American does.
getalife
February 21st, 2013
11:48 am
It is sad to see China’s government move sp quickly to keep their government growing but we can’t because of the gop.
China does not inflect self inflicted wounds to our economy like our gop.
They have unity and patriotism.
They are invested in green energy to combat the pollution.
They have brand new infrastructure and high speed trains.
They are kicking our buts and no longer need to steal data because the jobs moved there.
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
February 21st, 2013
11:49 am
This clown would do anything, say anything, true or not, to further his agenda.
The smoking gun is the mushroom cloud.
We will be greeted as liberators.
getalife
February 21st, 2013
11:53 am
Paul,
That was a nice way to put it
Doggone/GA
February 21st, 2013
11:54 am
“They do”
Or they think they do. Read “The Cuckoo’s Egg” sometime. Even though it was published in 1989 it still has a lot of eye-opening information.
alex
February 21st, 2013
11:56 am
@getalife;how can opinion polls prove that someone is doing a great job?…Answer, they can’t..he may be doing a great job ( doubt “great”, mabye good to many people), but a “poll” is not proof of that.
obamaSINLADEN
February 21st, 2013
11:57 am
so do da us gubmint
Joe Hussein Mama
February 21st, 2013
11:57 am
K71 — “No, Debbie, I don’t believe him and no thinking American does.”
Well, if that’s what you think, then why do you come here at all?
You know what kind of discussion you’re going to get here, so why go to the trouble if you’re that upset about it?