Standing athwart a pathway to citizenship, yelling ‘No!’
In a new Bloomberg poll, just 23 percent of Americans say they oppose giving illegal immigrants a pathway to citizenship. That finding is echoed by a newly released Pew poll, which reports that just 25 percent of Americans back the enforcement-only, no-citizenship option.
A handful of Senate Republicans, led by John McCain and Marco Rubio, is trying to move legislation that would respond to that clear expression of public opinion without also giving a legislative victory to President Obama. That is proving to be a difficult needle to thread. At some point, McCain and Rubio will probably have to decide which of those goals is more important.
And unfortunately, even if comprehensive immigration reform makes it through the Senate, the odds of passage through the GOP-run House look extremely low. That bill would have to go through the House Judiciary Committee, and in a new report by NPR, Committee Chairman Bob Goodlatte of Virginia expressed strong opposition to citizenship.
“People have a pathway to citizenship right now,” Goodlatte told NPR. “It’s to abide by the immigration laws, and if they have a family relationship, if they have a job skill that allows them to do that, they can obtain citizenship.”
Goodlatte also made it clear that he would extract a price for merely agreeing to give those illegal immigrants legal work status, without the option of citizenship.
“You’re going to have to have a program that assures those farms and those processing plants that there will be workers,” he said. “Because if you give them legal status, they can work anywhere in the United States — they’re not going to necessarily work at the hardest, toughest, dirtiest jobs.”
That’s a pretty damning statement. According to Goodlatte, employers need a class of people with little or no legal option except to work at the “hardest, toughest, dirtiest jobs.” For now, that niche is served by illegal immigrants, but if they are given a path out of that predicament — if they are given permits that allow them to work legally wherever they can find employment — the nation would have to import a lot more “guest workers” to replace them in doing that dirty work.
That’s strikes a powerful chord for me. At one time in our history, we did have a class of people with no option but the hardest, dirtiest jobs, people who were trapped by law in that role. One hundred and fifty years ago, we fought a war to end that system. Then as now, there’s something fundamentally wrong with systematically wringing the sweat out of people while denying them the hope of bettering themselves.
One other quote in the story also should be noted:
“We use Mexicans in our work,” Ed Toomey, a building contractor in Goodlatte’s Virginia congressional district, told NPR, “and, you know, they’re fine people. But there has to be a law. They have to abide by the rules, like everybody else.”
Those rules of course include rules against the hiring of illegal immigrants.
– Jay Bookman
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josef
February 21st, 2013
6:54 pm
LOOK
Silva is also Spanish.
Both the name Silva AND the name Camacho are typical Sephardic names, sort of our Greenberg and Goldberg. It’s a fairly common practice among marranos from the Southwest to give their children a traditional Hebrew name. That’s what struck me when I first read his name. He may be one of them folks what came illegally to Santa Fe in 1610…
F. Sinkwich
February 21st, 2013
6:55 pm
“Gingrey doesn’t need smearing. He does that to himself by talking.”
Thanks for the illumination.
barking frog
February 21st, 2013
6:56 pm
Doggone/GA
http://travel.state.gov/law/citizenship/citizenship_776.html
the renunciation would have to be in a foreign country….
F. Sinkwich
February 21st, 2013
6:58 pm
“An Ohio woman filed a $25,000 lawsuit against her employer, alleging she was fired for voting for President Obama. Patricia Kunkle of Kettering, Ohio, claimed that Dayton-based Q-Mark, Inc., threatened to fire employees of the defense contractor if Obama won re-election, with the president’s supporters to be the first to receive pink slips, the Dayton Daily News reported.”
*sniff*
Too bad I can’t be on the jury.
Doggone/GA
February 21st, 2013
6:59 pm
“But I had the same thought when I read to article – Jacksonville is in FL and I-10, not I-20″
But I10 does not go east of Jacksonville. I don’t actually even know what story it’s all about, it’s just that “Jacksonville” and “I20″ caught my eye, because I’ve been through that town and knew it was close to I20. However, it’s not in a Rankin County. There are actually 2 Jacksonvilles in GA…one in Greene County and one in Taliaferro County.
But Jax in Fl isn’t in Rankin County either…it’s in Duval County.
A Simple Man
February 21st, 2013
7:01 pm
@Bro
Did I hit close to home? I read Jay, and even agree sometimes. I watch MSNBC. Can’t take the Fox morning group. If I didn’t people would complain that I’m a brainwashed Fox zombie. But, I do find it interesting the topics that are discussed. Don’t you?
Doggone/GA
February 21st, 2013
7:01 pm
“the renunciation would have to be in a foreign country”
Ok, then he’ll have to be illegal just like any other “illegal” and sneak back in.
Look before I leap...
February 21st, 2013
7:01 pm
Josef,
Weren’t marranos Jews who inhabited Iberia?
josef
February 21st, 2013
7:02 pm
DOGGONE
Slow motion layoff! THAT is going into my repertoire for a meeting coming up dealing with this issue…thanks
indigo
87 persons per square mile is far from overcrowded….
LOOK
DON’T tell folks from Jackson any of Rankin County is in Jackson…not if you want to keep your teeth where G-d put them!
In the middle
February 21st, 2013
7:05 pm
Just got hired by a foreign company yesterday. I will work in the US for an offshore company. Wait-isnt that backwords. Companies stay here and jobs go overseas not companies are overseas and jobs come here. Oh well.
St Simons - he-ne-ha
February 21st, 2013
7:05 pm
yeah, we smoked it over the peace pipe, and we decided,
there ain’t enough monay in all the casinos to send 300mil back.
Tip your waitress, I’m here all week, statements are done heheh
Look before I leap...
February 21st, 2013
7:06 pm
I’ll keep that in mind Josef.
Only been to Jackson MS twice. Nice people but the city seemed a bit frayed at the edges.
Paul
February 21st, 2013
7:07 pm
indigo
“And, yes legal Americans would do that “hard day’s work” if paid a proper wage.”
I wonder how high that has to be. Just got an Angie’s List catalog (it’s a subscription service that lists businesses in various categories with ratings heavily weighted towards customer satisfaction). Mrs. Paul was looking thru it and noted one in which the (roofing) business owner wrote: “Please send me people interested in working. For over a year, since the crackdown on immigrants, I’ve had worker vacancies. We pay $50,000 a year plus benefits. We pay a good wage for no experience, will train and get the person up to top pay levels.”
I remarked “yeah, and Americans are just lined up to do the work illegals are doing…”
josef
February 21st, 2013
7:10 pm
LOOK
Marronos are those (and their descendents) who were forced to convert but continued to practice Judaism in private. A considerable number of them came to the New World. Their goal was to get as far from the Inquisition as possible, There are significant communities descended from the first settlers in San Antonio, Corpus Christi and especially New Mexico. Though many still used the term themselves, it is in origins a slur, meaning pig. The proper term is Anusim insofar as halakha is concerned
Tom Middleton
February 21st, 2013
7:10 pm
The best way to kill the American dream of freedom for all, is to start denying freedom to those working to be free.
How many times have we heard “death to America” over the years, but for the life of us could not understand why?
I mean, get a clue, people, or go on building your useless bunkers; for at five percent of the world’s population, we are going to lose!
bman.
February 21st, 2013
7:11 pm
Paul .. .. I saw an ad on craigslist that said “earn $1,000’s per week. A simple 4 week training
Look before I leap...
February 21st, 2013
7:12 pm
@ Indigo
The US is ranked 172nd in terms of population density.
But going through Hartsfield on a Monday morning, I can see where you might think we would be higher on the list.
Jackie
February 21st, 2013
7:12 pm
The effects of the fiscal cliff on DoD will be profound. It is ironic that the effects will affect California and specifically the district of Rep. Issa(R-CA) most profoundly.
http://www.utsandiego.com/news/2012/dec/29/fiscal-cliff-industries-serving-military-would/
Moderate Line
February 21st, 2013
7:15 pm
josef
February 21st, 2013
6:09 pm
Moderate
Oh, we’ve just cleaned it up a bit, thass all…progress, doncha know…
++++
I am sorry but I am missing your point.
Brosephus™
February 21st, 2013
7:15 pm
Doggone @ 6:51
I’m thinking about calling my mortgage, utility, and credit card companies to see if they’ll allow me to furlough my payments to them for the duration of my furlough. I doubt they’ll like that idea nearly as much as people want me furloughed.
Look before I leap...
February 21st, 2013
7:16 pm
Thanks for filling in the gaps Josef.
I only knew of the term marrano from my study of the Spanish Inquisition (nasty times indeed).
I am completely ignorant when it comes to halakhah (Christian law is so much more amusing).
arnold
February 21st, 2013
7:17 pm
“But there has to be a law. They have to abide by the rules, like everybody else” Whose law? The right wing nut case’s law, or a law based on humanity?
arnold
February 21st, 2013
7:18 pm
josef
February 21st, 2013
7:10 pm
There are many also in South America.
Look before I leap...
February 21st, 2013
7:19 pm
@Bro
The mortgage companies and utilities are much more likely to work with you.
Check the credit card issuers you have and see if they offer Income Protection plans.
If so – apply NOW – they don’t work after the fact.
You can always cancel later.
Fingers crossed for you man.
Paul
February 21st, 2013
7:20 pm
bman
If you’d like I’ll send you the roofing business owner’s name and his phone number/address and you can speak to him and determine if his established roofing company is a scam.
josef
February 21st, 2013
7:20 pm
LOOK
It depends on what part of town you’re in. It’s nickname is “Chimneyville” so named for what was left after it was torched during the Wah-uh. It grew slowly until the mid-twentieth Century, so it’s missing a lot of what went into making a city. It is a bit raggedy because in that growth spurt that came in the emphasis was more on getting housing than in architecture. It does, though, have some really spectacular art deco buildings. The last few decades have seen the urban flight to the suburbs, and they are built up around the small towns which were never much to begin with…so it is a patchwork and decidedly frayed around the edges…It has some real treasures, but you have to go looking for them.
Pearl and Rankin County ain’t one of those treasures!
Jack ®
February 21st, 2013
7:21 pm
Close the flaming border. If you are so concerned about the plight of the illegals, go there and adopt as many as you please to be part of your family: Put your oh-so-righteous pandering where your mouth is.This puke-inducing liberal piety is not going to convince anyone of your sincerity.
Paul
February 21st, 2013
7:22 pm
Jackie 7:12
Karma -
Orange13
February 21st, 2013
7:22 pm
If and when the illegal population do become legal a high percentage if them will have dual citizenship.
dixie normous
February 21st, 2013
7:22 pm
The left simply does not understand the world we live in.
1. You cannot legislate the poor into prosperity by legislating the wealthy out of prosperity.
2. What one person receives without working for, another person must work for without receiving.
3. The government cannot give to anybody anything that the government does not first take from somebody else.
4. You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it!
5. When half of the people get the idea that they do not have to work because the other half is going to take care of them, and when the other half gets the idea that it does no good to work because somebody else is going to get what they work for, that is the beginning of the end of any nation.
dixie normous
February 21st, 2013
7:24 pm
The country is already broke and liberal loons want to add millions more to welfare. How stupid is that?
Jackie
February 21st, 2013
7:24 pm
I wonder if Rep. Issa(R-CA) will be tossed out of office in 2014 because of the votes he has cast to implement the fiscal cliff?
Look before I leap...
February 21st, 2013
7:25 pm
“Close the flaming border.”
That is the 5th time I’ve seen that phrase today. And how exactly do you plan to do that (providing an estimated cost would be nice too).
Don’t rant so hard dude – gonna give yourself an ulcer.
dixie normous
February 21st, 2013
7:25 pm
all the left sees is votes. They want power. But they will have no power if things continue. There will be no country to control. You are flushing America down the toilet and are too stupid to see it.
getalife
February 21st, 2013
7:26 pm
The 23% shows the gop base is shrinking.
When you are dead wrong all the time you lose voters.
Moving forward as promised.
That helps to gain voters.
Jackie
February 21st, 2013
7:26 pm
The USA is broke?
http://www.americanprogress.org/issues/economy/news/2011/03/21/9347/were-not-broke/
dixie normous
February 21st, 2013
7:27 pm
Jackie, obama threatened to veto any bills that did not include sequestration. He demanded it. He got it. Now he owns it.
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
February 21st, 2013
7:27 pm
Jay:
In addition to the articles about Christians who have been jailed in Lybia, this would make a good blog:
“Christians and human rights advocates are alarmed over an aggressive crackdown on house churches in China, where the faithful are forced to call their gatherings “patriotic” assemblies or sent to prison where they can face torture, according to a new report.
Cases of the government persecuting Christians rose 42 percent last year, amid a three-phase plan by Beijing to eradicate the home-based churches, according to China Aid, a Texas-based human rights group”
Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/world/2013/02/21/christians-house-churches-in-china-see-erious-escalation-persecution-report/#ixzz2LaDJEjNd
WHAT SAY YE?
Look before I leap...
February 21st, 2013
7:28 pm
“The country is already broke”
Really? My government check cleared today no problem.
josef
February 21st, 2013
7:29 pm
arnold
Particularly in the Medellin Valley of Colombia and Costa Rica actually was first settled by them and the tradition is very much part of the CR national cultural identity. The Talamanca Indians refer to any non Indian Costa Rican as a judio. When the non marrono Jews began to immigrate to Costa Rica in the late 1800s and established their own religious traditions, most of them came from Poland and were referred to as polacos. The common word in use today for “Jews” is polaco. There were some great quips that came about when Pope John Paul visited Costa Rica,,,
Jackie
February 21st, 2013
7:29 pm
@dixie
Maybe you should look at what was said and who has the power to demand the US House of Representatives follow their edicts?
Surely, you do not believe the President can order the House to do what he demands!
dixie normous
February 21st, 2013
7:29 pm
Jackie, American Progress? Seriously? You believe what those fools tell you. We are not broke? You cannot be that naive. Open up your eyes.
dixie normous
February 21st, 2013
7:30 pm
Jackie, who signed sequestration into law? The House? LOL You probably believe that.
getalife
February 21st, 2013
7:31 pm
The gop are divided, conquered and in basic survival mode.
They will cave on the cuts and pass immigration to try to survive.
Jackie
February 21st, 2013
7:31 pm
@dixie
Here is a post from your single source of information, FOX!
http://video.foxbusiness.com/v/4576537/is-the-us-really-broke-/
dixie normous
February 21st, 2013
7:32 pm
People like Jackie can see obama demanding sequestration and then demand it themselves. Then several months later see him saying how bad sequestration is and then here they are. Hard to take two faced people seriously.
bman.
February 21st, 2013
7:32 pm
“If you’d like I’ll send you the roofing business owner’s name and his phone number/address and you can speak to him and determine if his established roofing company is a scam.”
One thing that there is no shortage for, and that’s scams. Maybe it’s not. Maybe it’s in NYC. All I did was share an ad I read.
In the middle
February 21st, 2013
7:32 pm
So, what if the average daily wage in Mexico was 10 times higher than the average daily wage in the US. You can just cross the border into Mexico, stay as long as you like and when you have made enough money you can go back to the US. I wonder how many US citizens would go accross the border and pick up trash for 10 times minimum wage. I would get 10 to 15 of my friends and family and we would all go down there together, split living expenses so we could keep the costs down and over the next 10 years make enough to retire comfortably in the US. Now that is a plan.
dixie normous
February 21st, 2013
7:33 pm
Jackie, who signed sequestration into law? Are you smart enough to know?
Paul
February 21st, 2013
7:34 pm
dixie
You have an interesting view of ‘illegals.’ You must not be in agriculture or meat packing or house or road construction or landscaping or a whole lot of other businesses.
If all these people do is come here to sit around and get welfare, who was doing the work before farmers began complaining they couldn’t find anyone to pick their crops?
dixie normous
February 21st, 2013
7:35 pm
Hrees my source Jackie. Red means broke
http://www.usdebtclock.org/
Look before I leap...
February 21st, 2013
7:35 pm
“You are flushing America down the toilet and are too stupid to see it.”
Air France Flt 43 (Delta codeshare 3301) leaves in 4 hours for Riyadh.
If you hurry you can just make it.
Right-wing Utopia there.
Pack a Burka
josef
February 21st, 2013
7:35 pm
LOOK
Theirs is a fascinating story, indeed. Many of them came to the South beginning at St. Agustine and really even before. They would ship into Havanah and then hit the highroad for the wild woolies of the backwoods where they were accepted by the Native populations. The DNA research on several of those enigmatic populations such as the Melungeons and the Redbones are showing a very strong presence of those markers associated with Sephardic Jews.
Moderate Line
February 21st, 2013
7:36 pm
josef
February 21st, 2013
7:02 pm
87 persons per square mile is far from overcrowded….
========
It depends on how much land is actually inhabitable. Russia has one of the lowest populations densities in the world but how much of it is actually inhabitable.
Paul
February 21st, 2013
7:37 pm
bman
You know perfectly well what your implication was. The discussion’s about illegals and work, a local businessman says he pays very good wages and can’t find people to apply, and you cite an ad about scams.
But we all know it’s illegals stealing jobs hard-working Americans would gladly take if they had the chance, right?
Jackie
February 21st, 2013
7:38 pm
@dixie
Apparently, you do not have an awareness of how your government works.
The sequestration was suggested by President Obama as a means of solving the stalemate in Congress. The Congress in turn voted to put an even number of Repubs and Dems on the committee, therefore, the stalemate remained.
And people like yourself find it hard to think past their eardrums and/or read information from sources that will dispel the MYTHS you seem to believe.
Orange13
February 21st, 2013
7:38 pm
“My government check cleared today no problem.”
There’s no such thing as a gov check anymore.
dixie normous
February 21st, 2013
7:39 pm
Air France Flt 43 (Delta codeshare 3301) leaves in 4 hours for Riyadh.
If you hurry you can just make it.
Right-wing Utopia there.
Pack a Burka
I prefer to stay right here and fight you for the survival of THIS country You are close but you havent destroyed it yet. We still have the House and should pick up the Senate next year, that will help.
Doggone/GA
February 21st, 2013
7:40 pm
“I doubt they’ll like that idea nearly as much as people want me furloughed.”
Bro, I agree…but they might be more amenable than you think. With housing only just beginning to recover…I don’t think they’re going to want even more empty homes on their hands if it can be avoided. They might be willing to drop your payments for the duration, with the understanding they would go up when you’re back on full employment. Sort of an interrum balloon payment sort of thing.
dixie normous
February 21st, 2013
7:41 pm
@dixie
Apparently, you do not have an awareness of how your government works.
The sequestration was suggested by President Obama as a means of solving the stalemate in Congress. The Congress in turn voted to put an even number of Repubs and Dems on the committee, therefore, the stalemate remained.
And people like yourself find it hard to think past their eardrums and/or read information from sources that will dispel the MYTHS you seem to believe.
I dont see the answer to my question. Jackie, who signed sequestration into law? It may take some courage but you can do it.
josef
February 21st, 2013
7:41 pm
arnold
Have you ever read Peruvian Isaac Goldemberg’s “La vida a plazos de don Jacobo Lerner” ?
and LOOK
Did you ever see “Lust in the Dust?” There’s a fascinating marrano theme in it…
Skip
February 21st, 2013
7:41 pm
$50,000 roofers, the economy must be roaring.
Doggone/GA
February 21st, 2013
7:41 pm
“Close the flaming border”
And that is impossible to do.
getalife
February 21st, 2013
7:43 pm
“And that is impossible to do.”
Especially when they cut their funding and furlough workers.
josef
February 21st, 2013
7:43 pm
MODERATE
In the United States, quite a bit of it is…our “problem” is more the overconcentration of our population in corridors…
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
February 21st, 2013
7:43 pm
Religious instruction is apparently o.k. in Calilfornia schools (unless it’s Christian based):
Wikipedia: “Yoga (Sanskrit, Pāli: योग, /ˈjəʊɡə/, yoga) is a commonly known generic term for physical, mental, and spiritual disciplines which originated in ancient India.[1][2] Specifically, yoga is one of the six āstika (”orthodox”) schools of Hindu philosophy. One of the most detailed and thorough expositions on the subject are the Yoga Sūtras of Patañjali. Various traditions of yoga are found in Hinduism, Buddhism, Jainism and Sikhism.[3][4][5]”
Headline (ABC): “Yoga Lawsuit: Encinitas Union School District in California Sued Over Classes”
http://abcnews.go.com/US/yoga-lawsuit-encinitas-union-school-district-california-sued/story?id=18561237
Look before I leap...
February 21st, 2013
7:44 pm
“It depends on how much land is actually inhabitable”
With the exception of a large proportion of Alaska, virtually all of the US is inhabitable.
Some of it maybe isn’t paradise (in terms of temperature and scantily clad women serving cocktails in coconuts). All you need is arable land and water.
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
February 21st, 2013
7:45 pm
P.S.
The sign in the background of the news photo says “Yoga cultivates character”.
Hummm …………. so just plain exercise/stretching cultivates “character” ???
Jackie
February 21st, 2013
7:45 pm
@dixie
Still believe in fairy tales?
My post indicating that FOX news refutes your contention.
Or, did you forget how to read?
bman.
February 21st, 2013
7:45 pm
Paul .. .. I don’t know if you’re in Georgia. If you are, I challenge you to locate any roof laborer making 50k….bonus pts in they are not a citizen.
Class of '98
February 21st, 2013
7:46 pm
Jay Bookman is not a fan of laws. He prefers mob rule.
Jackie
February 21st, 2013
7:47 pm
@dixie
The President of the United States has a duty to act on legislation passed by the Congress. Either he signs it or vetoes it.
Now, what is your point about who owns the sequestration?
Look before I leap...
February 21st, 2013
7:47 pm
“There’s no such thing as a gov check anymore.”
Direct deposit.
The colloquialism just worked better for me.
Doggone/GA
February 21st, 2013
7:47 pm
“Especially when they cut their funding and furlough workers”
Yep, especially
Look before I leap...
February 21st, 2013
7:49 pm
“Did you ever see “Lust in the Dust?” There’s a fascinating marrano theme in it…”
No I have not. My wife won’t let me watch Jewish porn.
(Sorry – that was pretty awful – could not resist.)
Paul
February 21st, 2013
7:50 pm
Skip
“$50,000 roofers, the economy must be roaring.”
Texas weathered the housing crisis pretty well. The Dallas area’s doing very well. The homes going up are pretty upscale. Plus, we regularly get hit by hailstorms necessitating whole or part roof replacements. We had ours done recently. Guy said to forget those 30 and 45 year shingles, as in a few years there’d be another hail storm and we’ll be replacing it again.
Jackie
February 21st, 2013
7:50 pm
@dixie
Another thing for you to read.
The sequestration laws signed by President Obama is a law designed to provide transparency about the effects of sequestration, not the sequestration in and of itself.
Now, what were you saying about who, what and where owns the law and the effects it will have on our economy?
http://fcw.com/articles/2012/08/07/obama-signs-sequestration-transparency-act.aspx
Look before I leap...
February 21st, 2013
7:51 pm
“I prefer to stay right here and fight you for the survival of THIS country”
By all means do.
Some friendly advice though – you will have a much better chance of winning any battles if you arm yourself with some facts and educate yourself.
Paul
February 21st, 2013
7:53 pm
bman
As I’ve noted occasionally, I live in the Dallas-Ft Worth metroplex.
josef
February 21st, 2013
7:53 pm
LOOK
If you ever get a chance, watch it! Divine at his best…and, well, it IS just short of porn!
Jackie
February 21st, 2013
7:53 pm
@dixie
I will give you all the time you need to come up with a plausible explanation, or, is that plausibly denial?
tiredofIT
February 21st, 2013
7:59 pm
Time to quit bitching about this issue. As long as the 1% wants them here, you are wasting time and energy.
bman.
February 21st, 2013
8:01 pm
“As I’ve noted occasionally, I live in the Dallas-Ft Worth metroplex.”
I lived and worked in Houston, TX (The Woodlands) for a few years. I went to Dallas, San Antonio, Austin- loved it all. IBut I never made it out west. I really enjoyed Texas, and met a lot of super nice people.
I dated 2 hispanic ladies there. They were not laborers…in fact, one couldn’t speak spanish.
Look before I leap...
February 21st, 2013
8:02 pm
“Divine at his best”
Divine: The drag queen from Hairspray?
indigo
February 21st, 2013
8:03 pm
dixie normous – 7:22
Are you saying that 50% of Americans think they do not have to work?
Jerome Horwitz
February 21st, 2013
8:15 pm
We need to hope St Simons and the original inhabitants of the desert Southwest, you know – the land we appropriated from Mexico, don’t smarten up and kick our posteriors back to Europe. Some people seem to forget that at one time or another we were all immigrants. Most of our ancestors were lucky that when the boat pulled up all you had to do was walk off. The Statue of Liberty must be crying tonight. But, that’s the new American Way – I got mine. F’ You.
Brosephus™
February 21st, 2013
8:17 pm
A Simple Man @ 7:01
Nope, you didn’t hit close to home at all. I just don’t understand why people do as you did. If I go to a blog, whether it’s left or right leaning, I don’t question the author on their choice of topics. If I don’t like the topic or message, I simply don’t post. If it’s something I want to discuss, then I’ll jump into the dialogue. Different strokes for different folks, I guess.
——————
Look before and Doggone
My furlough comment was meant as part humor and part sarcasm. It didn’t translate nowhere near what I intended. My family will be ok, even with a new mouth to feed. Her food is free for the first 6 months thanks to Mother Nature. It won’t help the local businesses that I frequent though as I will be holding on to my cash much harder for a while.
Josef
February 21st, 2013
8:18 pm
LOOK
Same one…google it and check out the cast…and then pay attention to how many of them ran afoul of the Hollywood inquisition of the McCarthy era…the film is fun as all get out but underneath? Oh, my!!,
Josef
February 21st, 2013
8:20 pm
Jerome
Yep.
Recon 0311 2533
February 21st, 2013
8:27 pm
Democrats favor slave labor so long as the slaves vote Democrat. Something historic for Democrats, slaves that is.
Josef
February 21st, 2013
8:30 pm
Jerome
Just being my ancestrally uppity self here, but it never ceases to amaze me how so many want to do a “cut off” date on time of ” immigration.” Me? Oh, I say they had to have been here before 1792, the date of the last of mine to get here.
TaxPayer
February 21st, 2013
8:30 pm
So what’s the Republican’s latest unskewed polling data telling them. Don’t change a thing perhaps? After all, those Republican plans have worked so well so far. I mean, Republicans finally got part of the spending cuts that they wanted. Now if they can just get the rest of them along with another tax cut for the wealthiest, they should be just plain thrilled. Overjoyed even. Come on Republicans. You should be celebrating. You won. So how about acting like winners. Be happy.
Jackie
February 21st, 2013
8:30 pm
Sounds like there is a belief that only the “slaves” voted for the Dems.
Jerome Horwitz
February 21st, 2013
8:40 pm
Josef – Our family is a little more spread out ranging from 1710’s to 1904. Would like to think my two grand dads that were militia colonels would support others who want to make this country stronger.
Actually, we need the immigrants to support our aging butts by paying into SS – think the Delta’s allowing Flounder into the frat – “We need the dues”.
Doggone/GA
February 21st, 2013
8:41 pm
“Her food is free for the first 6 months thanks to Mother Nature”
I can be free for longer than that if need be. Nursing for even up to 3 years (not exclusively though) is not out of nature’s bounds, even if it is out of our social bounds.
I used to know a woman who had a very sickly son (not sure exactly what) but her doctor told her the longer she could nurse him the better for him and she nursed him supplementally until he was nearly 5.
Doggone/GA
February 21st, 2013
8:42 pm
“Democrats favor slave labor so long as the slaves vote Democrat.”
Keep up the good work…that’s going to attract a LOT of votes to your side
snicker
комиссар (Occupation)
February 21st, 2013
8:43 pm
Recon: “Democrats favor slave labor so long as the slaves vote Democrat.”
And Republicans don’t care how they vote either way, as they’re about taking away their voting rights or trying to limit them wherever possible.
Keep Up the Good Fight!
February 21st, 2013
8:45 pm
Democrats favor slave labor so long as the slaves vote Democrat. Something historic for Democrats, slaves that is.
I’d be careful posting this kind of stupidity. Commentary like this can lead to you being declared brain dead.
Recon 0311 2533
February 21st, 2013
8:47 pm
The Democrat party now enslaved by the extreme hard-left has focused the uninformed voters and now holds them captive along with their intellectually ideological captive as exposed on Jay’s blog. This latter group is blinded by leftist ideology, while the former grouping is convinced that a centralized federal government will provide them with cradle to grave financial care. Yes, the party of stupids.
JamVet
February 21st, 2013
8:48 pm
LOL…