Deal’s Medicaid decision denies health insurance to 600,000
So far, six Republican governors have decided to buck their party and accept federal expansion of Medicaid coverage, concluding that the best interests of their state and its citizens outweigh the interests of their political party.
Gov. Nathan Deal of Georgia has made the opposite choice, and the damage inflicted on Georgia by his decision will be considerable.
Here’s the deal:
Under the Affordable Care Act, also known as ObamaCare, the federal government has offered to cover 100 percent of the costs of health insurance for an additional 620,000 Georgians. The deal is good for three years, from 2014 through 2016. In 2017, the federal government will still pay 95 percent of the cost, and the percentage will slide to 90 percent by 2020.
For every year thereafter, the federal government will cover 90 percent of the cost.
That would amount to an influx of $40 billion into the Georgia economy from 2014 to 2023, according to Bill Custer, a health economist at Georgia State University. That will boost the state’s economic output by an average of $8.2 billion a year. That in turn will create more than 70,000 new jobs in a state with the nation’s ninth-highest unemployment rate, Hudson estimates. That in turn will generate an additional $267 million a year in state and local taxes.
Many of those newly created jobs will be in the well-paying medical industry, which is particularly important in a state where the median household income had been dropping even before the recession hit. According to Custer’s analysis, 46,000 of those jobs will be created outside metro Atlanta, in areas where the health-care industry is barely hanging on because so many local residents do not have health insurance.
With the influx of federal money, rural hospitals that will otherwise be forced to close their doors would remain open. Those facilities will remain important economic generators for their communities, and they will also help to attract outside industry. Employers have little interest in locating in communities with no nearby hospital.
In addition, it should help lower health-insurance costs in general, because the rest of us won’t be paying for health care for the uninsured through our health-care premiums.
Most important, there’s the impact on those 620,000 Georgians. According to the Kaiser Family Foundation, some 22 percent of Georgians are without health insurance, the seventh highest rate in the nation. Ideology won’t cover their medical bills. Partisan politics won’t pay their surgeon or anesthesiologist.
Deal explains his refusal in a couple of ways. His administration estimates that it will cost the state some $4.5 billion to participate in the program from 2014 to 2023. That’s more than twice as much as other estimates, but let’s accept it as valid. Using Deal’s numbers, Georgia is turning down an offer to match each state dollar with 10 dollars in federal funding. That 10-1 match is far more generous than other federal programs that Georgia scrambles to tap. Turning it down means that billions of tax dollars will be flowing out of Georgia to support health care in other states; none of it will be flowing back in.
You can also think of it purely in investment terms: Every year, Georgia gives away hundreds of millions of dollars through economic development efforts that have far more risk and considerably less return than this program.
According to Deal, he also fears that the federal government doesn’t have the resources to sustain the expanded program. But it’s curious how that logic isn’t applied to, say, the deepening of Savannah Harbor, where Deal and others are pleading for hundreds of millions of dollars from that very same federal government. Or to the billions of dollars in federal loan guarantees to build new nuclear reactors at Plant Vogtle. Perhaps we should also discourage the location of the Army’s new CyberCommand to Fort Gordon near Augusta, where it iswould likely bring thousands of jobs.
ObamaCare isn’t going away. The Republicans have fought it all the way up to the Supreme Court, and they lost. They made its repeal a central part of their 2012 campaign, and they lost the presidential race, they lost Senate seats and they lost House seats. At some point, it’s time to accept reality.
– Jay Bookman
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Robert Lee - Cogito ergo zoom
February 20th, 2013
11:06 am
First?
Robert Lee - Cogito ergo zoom
February 20th, 2013
11:07 am
Dang, we made the ALTA playoffs and first on Jay’s blog…….an excellent week!
godless heathen - owner of many things he does not need
February 20th, 2013
11:08 am
A gazillion free Federal Dollars, no strings attached, and we say no thanks.
godless heathen - owner of many things he does not need
February 20th, 2013
11:11 am
Maybe the guv reads this blog and all the lib caterwauling about how this Red State receives more Fed $ than it pays in, and he’s attempting to right the wrong.
Robert Lee - Cogito ergo zoom
February 20th, 2013
11:13 am
More brilliant leadership from Mr Deal.
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
February 20th, 2013
11:14 am
At some point, it’s time to accept reality.
Current evidence suggests otherwise.
getalife
February 20th, 2013
11:16 am
No deal, he will stay the course.
Georgia on my mind...
February 20th, 2013
11:16 am
Jay, the sad part about this is Nathan Deal “could” be re-elected. The people in the rural communities will continue to suffer under Deal! You get what you vote for….Georgia, Republican rule for 11 plus years and still struggling to get out of the hole….
BILL
February 20th, 2013
11:16 am
Just keep it up Bubba Governor. Your decision will help lift GA to a purple state within 4 years or so, and maybe a blue state within 8-10 years.
Brosephus™
February 20th, 2013
11:18 am
“Reality is subjective. ”
–”Doubting” Thomas Jefferson
St Simons - he-ne-ha
February 20th, 2013
11:18 am
“an influx of $40 billion into the Georgia economy”
..and 600,000 Georgians covered that NEED it.
Its gonna hurt real people really bad.
just to ‘get’ the brown guy in the WH, that owns them
Such is the blind hate that this breed of con exhibits.
Make them pay.
Voter, do your job dammit.
Make them extinct.
Bootakook 2014
Corbin Sharpe. I think, therefore I am...I think.
February 20th, 2013
11:19 am
Governor Deal doesn’t care if the money’s free…he knows deep in his heart that Georgians don’t need healthcare…especially the Socialistic kind…
Simple Truths
February 20th, 2013
11:19 am
Where is this magical federal money tree that will supply all these billions?
TaxPayer
February 20th, 2013
11:22 am
Further proof that Republicans need to refine their message because that charitable giving and compassionate conservatism aspect of their party just isn’t coming through (even though it rhymes with ringing true) for some reason.
Common Sense isn't very Common
February 20th, 2013
11:22 am
Deal hasn’t found a way to make a profit otherwise he would have signed up.
BMDPD
February 20th, 2013
11:22 am
Too funny! That magical money tree. Evidently, Jay’s crew believes it exists!
Aquagirl
February 20th, 2013
11:23 am
DEATH PANELS!
barking frog
February 20th, 2013
11:23 am
Must not be enough available funds for Deal to confiscate.
Paul
February 20th, 2013
11:24 am
We’re facing the same thing in Texas with Gov Perry. Guess who’s leading the fight against him regarding Medicare expansion? Doctors and hospital associations.
getalife
February 20th, 2013
11:24 am
Meanwhile, pot tourism is coming to Colorado.
I like change.
Brosephus™
February 20th, 2013
11:25 am
Where is this magical federal money tree that will supply all these billions?
For states opting in, Georgia is where that magic tree is located. Turning down the funding means that Georgia taxpayers will be funding care in other states that they can’t get in their own with their own tax dollars.
HDB
February 20th, 2013
11:25 am
Just a thought….for all of the states that turn down Medicare expansion, that allows the FEDERAL GOVERNMENT to set up the exchanges….one step CLOSER to a SINGLE-PAYER, universal health care system……..
barking frog
February 20th, 2013
11:25 am
Simple truths
Where is this magical federal money tree that will supply all these billions?
………………………………………………….
Washington D. C.
jconservative
February 20th, 2013
11:25 am
If people get sick they can simply go to the emergency room and get free treatment. That way the people that already have health care insurance can pay for it. This system has been working well since Reagan signed the law in 1986. If it ain’t broke, don’t fix it.
Li'l Aynie
February 20th, 2013
11:25 am
Republican ideology trumps economic and social benefit, again!
The Republican agenda is controlled entirely by hatred of President Obama, not by the good of the nation or even their party. Whatever Obama favors, Republicans oppose. Whatever Obama does, Republicans “investigate”. Whatever Obama accomplishes, Republicans disparage.
Obama sets the agenda and calls the shots. Where would the Republican Party be without Obama? Rudderless, stuck in the 19th century with a comical “ideology”, an unhinged leadership, and a quarrelsome following.
Republicans, pray for Obama’s health and longevity! You’re nothing without him.
TaxPayer
February 20th, 2013
11:28 am
Give Nathan and the Cons (is that a band whose lyrics you would want to party to) a little time to figure out how to implement the equivalent of a bed tax to cover the cost and reward the appropriate party first. Then and only then can you have your family valued.
The Thin Guy
February 20th, 2013
11:29 am
Obvious solution for the affected 600k bums: Move. Californie is the place you ought to be. Movie stars and Governor Moonbeam. Send us a card when you get there.
комиссар (Occupation)
February 20th, 2013
11:30 am
“Ideology won’t cover their medical bills. Partisan politics won’t pay their surgeon or anesthesiologist”
You say that as though “ideology” and “partisan politics” are not serious things that sometimes call for doing seemingly counter-intuitive things. Deal is being a good partisan soldier, after a fashion, just as John McCain felt he was doing in retaliating against Chuck Hagel for having flouted those same principles in openly voicing his contempt for certain representatives and positions of his party.
The evil is not in the partisanship per se, but in the interests that these parties represent. If the parties were advancing boldly emancipatory and pro-worker agendas — an anti-slavery platform for ex — I would want their members to be just as ruthless and loyal to the cause. So the fact that politicians in our current day continue acting out of narrow party loyalty is an acceptable index of the “homage that vice pays to virtue”, a measure of the fact that comradeship and ruthless loyalty to a cause remain political virtues, even if the decadence of politics in our day means that their parties do not advance any cause other than the class interests of the 1% and Wall St. finance.
Granny Godzilla
February 20th, 2013
11:30 am
Nathan Deal is a dingbat.
Stepping over dollars to pick up dimes.
The hoping the dimes trickle down.
Recon 0311 2533
February 20th, 2013
11:32 am
Based on the SCOTUS ruling states would have an option of participating with the Federal government in setting up and managing the exchanges associated with ACA or opting out. The original mandatory provision in the ACA was removed by the Supremes, which was the threat of withholding medicaid money to those states that refused to participate. Deal and other Republican governors understand that the Fed promise is extremely dubious because it’s not the federal government who will provide the 95% reduced down to 90% it’s the American taxpayer. Given our economic condition, how can the nation afford another entitlement. Bottom line what it means for those states like Georgia who opt out the Federal government will be responsible for setting up the exchanges and managing them. Denying people access to insurance by opting out is totally false.
getalife
February 20th, 2013
11:33 am
Corporations will move to States that work on their infrastructure and provide ObamaCare.
In the end, red States will fall way behind.
Jay
February 20th, 2013
11:34 am
And Paul, Texas has by far the highest rate of uninsured in the country.
F. Sinkwich
February 20th, 2013
11:35 am
Deal is turning down free stuff !!
I’m guessing he didn’t vote for O’bozo.
Dumb and Dumber
February 20th, 2013
11:35 am
An inconvenient fact. The federal goverment would have to borrow the $40 bilion noted (undoubtedly it will go much higher as all government programs do), meaning either more debt or $40 billion more in taxes Georgians will have to pay to the federal government (you don’t expect some poor shmuck in WY to pay for GA, do you)? As our federal government has done absolutely nothing to tackle the deficit ($1 trillion + per year and counting), it is folly to think this is some gift from the federal government that). I realize liberals are generally pigs at the trough and think money just comes from nowhere (a printing press, I guess), but we just don’t have the money to extend ADDITIONAL health care (already provided at hospital ER by law) to more people. It’s called gravity…
RCH
February 20th, 2013
11:37 am
Jay misrepresents again, How unique!
TaxPayer
February 20th, 2013
11:37 am
Grover will have his way in the end but the result will not be quite what he’d hoped for. He’ll end up with a Republican Party small enough to drown in his own bath tub and he’ll do it. Good riddance.
Doggone/GA
February 20th, 2013
11:38 am
Maybe we need to stop electing veterinarians and elect accountants who have an understanding of cost/benefit analysis
Jay
February 20th, 2013
11:38 am
“An inconvenient fact. The federal goverment would have to borrow the $40 bilion noted.”
No, it would not. Tax increases, fees and spending reductions already built into the ACA make the program revenue neutral, according to the CBO.
Doggone/GA
February 20th, 2013
11:38 am
“Jay misrepresents again, How unique”
Got proof?
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
February 20th, 2013
11:40 am
As our federal government has done absolutely nothing to tackle the deficit…
“Deficit”? Did someone mention, “deficit”?
Which brings us to the economic level. The deficits that Bush ran up in the years in which the country was teetering on the verge of a serious recession had the beneficial effect of righting the economy. In that sense, deficits not only didn’t matter, but were a force for economic good.
Translation: IOKIYAR
getalife
February 20th, 2013
11:40 am
Man, our cons are depressed.
They should be jumping for joy on this issue.
JamVet
February 20th, 2013
11:41 am
Your decision will help lift GA to a purple state within 4 years or so, and maybe a blue state within 8-10 years.
As much as that would be a great thing for us, I disagree.
The Klan mentality, though watered down, is still MUCH too strong here…
Maybe in another generation or two the segregationists will figure out a way to garner more than 2% black membership…
TaxPayer
February 20th, 2013
11:41 am
At least the rest of ACA survives and eventually we will see fewer uninsured people and thus more people sharing the cost of caring for the uninsured. The better way would have been to take the Fed deal but Republicans don’t do math or science so how could they know. It’s not their fault that they are the stupid party.
Recon 0311 2533
February 20th, 2013
11:43 am
The CBO only took financial projections from the administration. Now that we’re seeing the unraveling of the Obamacare projections and understanding the unintended consequences of the bill “revenue neutral” is turning out to be pure bunk.
Uh Huh.......How many CONS does it take to make 600,000?
February 20th, 2013
11:45 am
Either you DEAL with what is the reality,
or
you can be sure that the reality is going to DEAL with you.
Simple Truths
February 20th, 2013
11:45 am
Jay @ 11:38 “No, it would not. Tax increases, fees and spending reductions already built into the ACA make the program revenue neutral, according to the CBO.”
Best laugh I’ve had all week! You actually believe this?
appleseed
February 20th, 2013
11:46 am
Surely there is some way to skim some of that Fed.money.
Doggone/GA
February 20th, 2013
11:47 am
“Best laugh I’ve had all week! You actually believe this?”
And what is your evidence that it’s not?
Jay
February 20th, 2013
11:49 am
Simple, as Nancy Pelosi almost, kind of said, we’ll only know for sure once it’s fully implemented. But unlike, say, President Bush and Medicare Part D, the Democrats did make a real effort to make sure the program was financed.
Ronald Reagan
February 20th, 2013
11:49 am
Governors unlike Senators have it’s citizens to think about & it’s departments to manage. They actually have budgets to adhere to! Being an educated & experienced businessman, Governor Deal will do whats best for this great Conservative( we only vote once in an election) state. He is a credit to this great state & we are glad to have him!
JamVet
February 20th, 2013
11:51 am
…for the affected 600k bums: Move.
Make you wonder what the thin guy has against all of those poverty stricken, white Republican voters in White, Lumpkin, Gilmer, Fannin and Towns Counties, huh?
Peadawg
February 20th, 2013
11:51 am
Interesting read next door on how wonderful Obamacare is. So much for “if you like your plan, you can keep it”.
http://blogs.ajc.com/kyle-wingfield/2013/02/20/obamacare-fallout-part-time-employees-losing-their-health-insurance/?cxntfid=blogs_kyle_wingfield
Dave
February 20th, 2013
11:51 am
Damn …
Cheesy Grits is gone but not forgotten
February 20th, 2013
11:52 am
Where is this magical federal money tree that will supply all these billions?
Northern blue states.
They have been subsidizing the South for generations.
Logical Dude
February 20th, 2013
11:53 am
“[accepting Obamacare] should help lower health-insurance costs in general, because the rest of us won’t be paying for health care for the uninsured through our health-care premiums.”
I doubt it.
Mostly because health insurance companies are extremely unwilling to part with incoming revenue streams.
The rest of your column is spot on, though. Deal’s ideology on this one is confusing.
getalife
February 20th, 2013
11:53 am
I hope ObamaCare fails and deal is helping to make that happen.
We should have CanadaCare by now and slow to change on this issue.
GT
February 20th, 2013
11:55 am
The hardest thing Deal has to do in his office is think, so much easier to avoid all that and just make money.
This is how the state will turn back to a two party system. Deal is wrong and will try to right it, but it will be too late. I think there is an opening in this senate race for a Democrat, this even widens the opening. If the Democratic Party spends the money now to educate the public on the hardship of being wrong all the time has on this state, something like health care that the public can feel no matter how loud the other side lies, the DP can win.
Doggone/GA
February 20th, 2013
11:55 am
“Mostly because health insurance companies are extremely unwilling to part with incoming revenue streams. ”
It’s not the income stream that Jay was referring to. It’s the higher cost of emergency care because of the uninsured using it as a primary care access point. We all pay for that through higher premiums, because the hospitals charge more to insured patients to help pay for the uninsured.
TGT
February 20th, 2013
11:56 am
The whole crux of Jay’s argument: With the influx of federal money…
I love how liberals utter such phrases as if “federal money” was produced from fairy farts of which there is an endless supply. Or maybe they just think that it’s from “Obama’s stash.”
St Simons - he-ne-ha
February 20th, 2013
11:56 am
Bro – Georgia taxpayers will be funding care in other states that they
can’t get in their own (assbackward state) with their own tax dollars.
yes yes yes
Do these Ga cons reeeally realize how stupid they are?
(he wondered rhetorically)
Will this be covered in the baby-jaysus-rode-the-dinosaur-fer-profit-
and-freedum-scam-skool curriculum?
Buzzy
February 20th, 2013
11:57 am
Shady Deal has screwed our state out of this money and the stimulus that would go with it, not to mention that it would go to provide care for sick people.
I saw some polling the the upcoming Senate race. I was surprised to learn that Max Cleland would carry Georgia over the court Republican field if he decided to run. So I think the Republicans are even beginning to soil their nest in Ga. Of course, the Republicans are in full denial about everything.
Mr. Snarky
February 20th, 2013
11:58 am
I have a feeling Deal’s tune will change once he wins re-election.
Redneck Convert (R--and proud of it)
February 20th, 2013
11:58 am
Well, I don’t know about you but I’m willing to see other people go without healthcare if I can just keep Those People and the Mexicans from getting it. Deal done made the best deal for us rednecks.
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
February 20th, 2013
11:59 am
I love how liberals utter such phrases as if “federal money” was produced from fairy farts of which there is an endless supply.
Pallets of hundred dollar bills missing in Iraq say, “What?”
Brosephus™
February 20th, 2013
12:02 pm
Either way that Deal chooses, Georgians will foot the bill for healthcare for the poor. If not by Medicaid, we’re going to pay for the emergency room bill out of our own insurance premiums.
Doggone/GA
February 20th, 2013
12:02 pm
“I have a feeling Deal’s tune will change once he wins re-election”
Won’t do much good, though, if he’s missed the window of opportunity to say yes
Doggone/GA
February 20th, 2013
12:03 pm
“Either way that Deal chooses, Georgians will foot the bill for healthcare for the poor. If not by Medicaid, we’re going to pay for the emergency room bill out of our own insurance premiums”
Yep, that’s the part that whooshes right on by. We’ll be paying either way. The question is: how much?
curious
February 20th, 2013
12:03 pm
When those 600,000 leave for California, who’s going to be behind the counter at Wal-Mart and fast food shops ?
DannyX
February 20th, 2013
12:03 pm
Sinkwich- “Deal is turning down free stuff !!”
Hardly. Deal campaigned against accepting federal “strings attached” “big government” Race to the Top education funds. Guess what was one of the first things he did as governor? Yep, he grabbed the half billion dollars.
Redcoat
February 20th, 2013
12:04 pm
A real and honest cost evaluation anywhere being used to make decisions?
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
February 20th, 2013
12:05 pm
Yet another obama lie…..
The smoking gun is the mushroom cloud.
We will be greeted as liberators.
curious
February 20th, 2013
12:05 pm
Brosephus™
‘Either way that Deal chooses, Georgians will foot the bill for healthcare for the poor. If not by Medicaid, we’re going to pay for the emergency room bill out of our own insurance premiums.”
Don’t confuse the Conservatives, here. They haven’t figured out that part, yet.
GT
February 20th, 2013
12:06 pm
The problem doesn’t go away but ignoring it. If we are letting people die in the streets report it, if not we are paying for their care at the price dictated by desperation, as they stumble into emergency rooms. That has got to cost many times more.
Common Sense isn't very Common
February 20th, 2013
12:06 pm
ER care is not long term help for things like BP or diabetes.
These require monitoring and care.
How can anyone return to being productive without care?
That’s why Medicaid is important to the population.
Geesh
JamVet
February 20th, 2013
12:07 pm
Poor, poor, poor christian conservative.
The guy is like a blogging STD!
Jefferson
February 20th, 2013
12:08 pm
Use it or lose it, taxes are not going down.
Stevie Ray
February 20th, 2013
12:09 pm
President Obama said in 2009 that “we can’t simply put more people into a broken system that doesn’t work.”
A legitimate issue since Medicaid reform is not included in the process.
Seems this reform should come first otherwise, in addition to us getting taxed to cover cost over runs (Jay, don’t move to quickly on projections of any savings in care cost..). Also it is likely that the average family currently insured will face up to a 15K increase in premium expense just so insurers can offset big losses incurred by insuring folks at a depressed rate when pre-existing conditions suggest $100’s of thousands of dollars medical services are needed.
Jay, if you really believe the cherry picked statistics that continue to change to the negative, so be it. IMO it will prove to be a poor set of assumptions to make what will inevitably be a financial disaster we can’t afford.
I think getting in bed with insurers and large providers who gave billions so they can collect teh 25% of revenues that are currently uncollectible reeks…also also the haphazard way this particular bill was rammed thru is a complete dog.
Single payer is best option for success…this will also cost taxpayers billions more than any suggested cost savings..it won’t happen..
St Simons - he-ne-ha
February 20th, 2013
12:10 pm
how many different computers does that shelter have, anyway?
mm
February 20th, 2013
12:12 pm
Hopefully, these con govs will pay the price during the next elections.
larry
February 20th, 2013
12:12 pm
Just wondering……’
When did Governor Deal last poll over 40%?
If he wants re-election, he better wise up. Maybe he can get his pawn shop buddy in California to vote for him, you know the one, he’s making a killing on the interest of that self-financed loan he gave to him to buy his son-in-laws bankrupt sporting goods store. The same son-in-law he gave a state job to. He doesnt have to worry about health insurance and his family. That is all that counts.
Stevie Ray
February 20th, 2013
12:12 pm
Sometimes things are what they appear on the surface. Our government getting in bed with arch enemies insurers and large providers in an of itself, suggests a problematic outcome.
DannyX
February 20th, 2013
12:13 pm
“Being an educated & experienced businessman, Governor Deal will do whats best for this great Conservative( we only vote once in an election) state.”
Was that a joke, Ronald Reagan?
Deal made used a no bid GOVERNMENT contract to make his money. He was being investigated for ethics violations before he left the US House. Then after he became governor he declared BANKRUPTCY!
Very funny, Ronald, very funny joke.
Redcoat
February 20th, 2013
12:13 pm
Harvesting from federal magic money tree………soon the crop of money will be seen as funny…..but we will not be laughing……Obama said it doesn’t matter now anyway……wonder what he really meant?
Brosephus™
February 20th, 2013
12:15 pm
Doggone
It’s the simple things that give them the most trouble.
Uh Huh.......How many CONS does it take to make 600,000?
February 20th, 2013
12:18 pm
@getalife
February 20th, 2013
11:40 am
Man, our cons are depressed.
They should be jumping for joy on this issue.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Deals Medicaid decision denies health insurance for CONS too.
Percentage of U. S. Population:
Non Elderly Medicaid Recipients by Race 2008-2010
43% White
28% Hispanic
22% Black
7% Other
How many CONS does it take to make 600,000?
Stevie Ray
February 20th, 2013
12:19 pm
Isn’t it funny how the most conservative governors are yielding to federal control as opposed to being subcontractors for the feds…
Jay, what do you suppose the significant number of states are defaulting to the FEDS?
Jay
February 20th, 2013
12:20 pm
Danny X, I do not believe the governor declared bankruptcy.
Stevie Ray
February 20th, 2013
12:23 pm
It seems another good reason for a wait-and-see attitude is that currently, the feds are best equipped now to run..
“In some ways, the federal government has a head start on the states. It already operates the Medicare Plan Finder for health insurance and prescription plans that serve seniors, and the Federal Employees Health Benefits Program. Both have many of the features of the new insurance markets.
Administration officials are keeping mum about what the new federal exchange will look like, except that it will open on time and people in all 50 states will have the coverage they’re entitled to by law.”
RB from Gwinnett
February 20th, 2013
12:23 pm
AJC Headline… “1 airlifted, 5 others injured in accident involving MARTA bus”
I wonder how many of the injured were actually on the bus when the accident happened?
Lynnie Gal
February 20th, 2013
12:23 pm
Republicans like Deal must get a kick out of punching the poor and unemployed in the stomach in Georgia–otherwise, why keep doing it? They probably laugh about it at their Good O’l Boy cocktail parties. Current Republicans hate the poor, hate the unemployed, hate education, hate,hate, hate, hate. The party of Stupidity and Hate–that’s the current Republican party.
Logical Dude
February 20th, 2013
12:24 pm
“Bulgaria government resigns”
Can they do that?
“you PEOPLE!!! You are so hard to govern! I quit! I mean, All of us quit!”
http://news.yahoo.com/bulgaria-government-resigns-national-protests-073220738.html
(from the article) “Bulgaria’s government resigned on Wednesday after mass protests against high power prices and falling living standards, joining a long list of European administrations felled by austerity during four years of debt crisis.”
So, go ahead US, let’s see what Austerity will get YOU.
Keep Up the Good Fight!
February 20th, 2013
12:25 pm
Millions for a new stadium, but NOT one single penny for health! — Thomas “New Deal” Jefferson
Matti
February 20th, 2013
12:26 pm
Gov. Shady only works for his own benefit, and should have been relegated to the private sector years ago, not elected to lead our State government. Dummies were impressed by his campaign ads: “Ah’m a huuuusbind. And a faahhhther.” Yeah, but he doesn’t give one single gosh darn about YOUR wife, kids, or grandkids. This guy has managed to erase nearly $4mil in personal debt, in less than one term, on $135K/year. What has he done for YOU? Nothing. And that’s what he’ll keep on doing for you if you vote for him again next year. His own financial cup will be runneth-ing over by then.
Uh Huh.......How many CONS does it take to make 600,000?
February 20th, 2013
12:27 pm
@RB from Gwinnett
February 20th, 2013
12:23 pm
AJC Headline… “1 airlifted, 5 others injured in accident involving MARTA bus”
I wonder how many of the injured were actually on the bus when the accident happened?
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Are you saying what you would do?
As a man thinketh………SO IS HE.
Uh Huh
Erwin's cat
February 20th, 2013
12:29 pm
Republicans don’t do math or science so how could they know. It’s not their fault that they are the stupid party.
I don’t believe in astrology…I am a Sagittarius and we’re skeptical by nature
indigo
February 20th, 2013
12:30 pm
So, the Governor decides to ignore the people and, instead, help Big Insurance keep the premiums high.
No surprise there.
And, it will be no surprise, when re-election time rolls around, many of the people hurt by this will be the same ones to re-elect him to office.
Why would they do this, you ask? Because they just don’t want to vote for that Socialist, Marxist anti-American Democratic Party.
Why would they believe that, you ask? Because Rush, The NRA and their political idols have told them so.
bman.
February 20th, 2013
12:30 pm
I’ll go with Mister Bookman on this one. I don’t how anyone can like the Deal-man
Jefferson
February 20th, 2013
12:30 pm
Self titled “Stupid party” at that…
Keep Up the Good Fight!
February 20th, 2013
12:31 pm
If a fairy farts in the woods, is that trickle down? How many tax cuts for the job creators/mega rich = 1 fairy fart?
Erwin's cat
February 20th, 2013
12:32 pm
Can they do that?
Belgium hasn’t had a gov’t for years….they can’t agree on anything except how to brew beer, make chocolate, and mussels should always be served with fries.
indigo
February 20th, 2013
12:32 pm
Erwin’s cat – 12:29
And, you think it shows intelligence to post mostly pithy one line remarks here.
Hint – it doesn’t.
Revjay
February 20th, 2013
12:32 pm
Well, well, our esteemable “governor in all of his infinite wisdom and concern for the people who elected him; once again shows his stupidity and unconcern for the people of our State!
I think he should be removed from office in disgrace. He once again has shown what our elected officials think about the residents of Georgia. Impeach the fraud and piut him out of office.
Jefferson
February 20th, 2013
12:32 pm
Paygo to restore cuts, revenue increased inevitable.
Stevie Ray
February 20th, 2013
12:33 pm
KEEP
At least we agree on the idiocy that surrounds a new stadium..the dome is only 17 or 18 years old…and is loud providing better home advantage.
Seems to me that Blank is caught up in the old “keep up with the Jones” malady.
RB from Gwinnett
February 20th, 2013
12:34 pm
Read this article and compare it to Jay’s. http://www.newsobserver.com/2013/02/18/2690102/too-many-wins-for-north-carolina.html
Seems they might be writing their stories from the exact same list of talking points. Did the DNC send this garbage too you Jay?
And BTW, the 620,000 people who don’t have health insurance today WILL have it in 2014. They are REQUIRED to have health insurance by law. Not an option. I guess they’ll have to sign up for the federal plan they forgot to fund in the original bill, eh?
And 70,000 jobs for 620,000 people to move their medical service delivery from point A (ER) to point B (private provider)????? That’s some PFI math there, Jay. That’s 1 new job for every 10 people being added to insurance plans, not being added to the health system since they’re already getting care when needed. Wow.
Folks, the Jay’s of the world are pissing on your head and telling you it’s raining. Wake up.
Jim Turner I I I
February 20th, 2013
12:34 pm
I hate to put people in a group but darned if I don’t hear the same song from everyone on the left – “All those free federal dollars”. Do any of you live in a real world where NOTHING is free? It simply amazes me.
Revjay
February 20th, 2013
12:35 pm
Well, to each his own.
Erwin's cat
February 20th, 2013
12:35 pm
indigo – I just don’t have the imagination and faux outrage like you to be able to just make up crap on the fly.
Keep Up the Good Fight!
February 20th, 2013
12:35 pm
Stevie, we can agree on the stadium. Unfortunately it represents only one of the more visible spends of taxpayer dollars by state government to benefit big business at the cost of infrastructure and other spends that could actually benefit the state.
Stevie Ray
February 20th, 2013
12:36 pm
Keep Up the Good Fight!
February 20th, 2013
12:31 pm
Question is whether “trickle-up” serves us any better. Relying on the top 5% or so is not an infinite well so to speak. At some point we get to diminished returns…like accompanied by false expectations..
ATL Tiger
February 20th, 2013
12:36 pm
“At some point, it’s time to accept reality”
Like the SOTUS saying that States were allowed to not participate in the expansion of Medicaid? Isn’t that a reality?
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
February 20th, 2013
12:36 pm
Do any of you live in a real world where NOTHING is free?
Haliburton says, “What?”
td
February 20th, 2013
12:37 pm
The whole problem with this thesis is that under Obamacare those same 620,000 Georgians will still be MANDATED to get healthcare insurance. All those benefits WILL still come to the state and Deal will have saved the taxpayers about $3 billion in Medicaid cost and another large sum of money in hiring caseworkers to administer the caseload of an additional 620,000 cases.
Total false progressive argument.
DannyX
February 20th, 2013
12:37 pm
“Danny X, I do not believe the governor declared bankruptcy.”
You are right Jay, though he did have to sell everything he owned and barely avoided bankruptcy, either way it proves he wasn’t a very good businessman.
Brosephus™
February 20th, 2013
12:39 pm
EC @ 12:29
Erwin's cat
February 20th, 2013
12:40 pm
You are right Jay, though he did have to sell everything he owned and barely avoided bankruptcy, either way it proves he wasn’t a very good businessman.
Steve Jobs and Bill Gates say What?
F. Sinkwich
February 20th, 2013
12:40 pm
The fact that individual states have enough autonomy to opt out of silly federal programs is a testimate to the genius of our founding fathers. Besides preserving some amount of freedom to citizens, federalism has another benefit discussed not nearly enough.
Miffed that they don’t enjoy the free stuff available to others elsewhere, moochers will migrate to those states that celebrate sloth by rewarding it.
Conversely, producers will migrate to those states which reward risk-taking, hard work, and self-reliance with low taxes and business friendly regulations (see Texas v. California).
It’s a win-win scenario: Red states get propsperity; blue states get O’bozo voters.
Darwin
February 20th, 2013
12:42 pm
Jay – it doesn’t deny medical care. As you are well aware the Republican health care system consists of emergency room care. The most inefficient and expensive care there is. Sponsored by taxpayers and those who have health insurance. But if you trying explaining that to the Repubs, all you get in deer in the headlight look.
barking frog
February 20th, 2013
12:42 pm
indigo
Erwin’s cat – 12:29
And, you think it shows intelligence to post mostly pithy one line remarks here.
Hint – it doesn’t.
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That’s showing him.
td
February 20th, 2013
12:44 pm
Jay
February 20th, 2013
11:38 am
“An inconvenient fact. The federal goverment would have to borrow the $40 bilion noted.”
No, it would not. Tax increases, fees and spending reductions already built into the ACA make the program revenue neutral, according to the CBO
If you really believe that then I have some ocean front property in Blue Ridge I want to sell you.
indigo
February 20th, 2013
12:45 pm
Erwin’s cat – 12:35
Anytime you think what I post is “make up crap” then, take you best shot and try to refute it.
Keep Up the Good Fight!
February 20th, 2013
12:45 pm
Stevie, well if you are agreed that “trickle-down” does not work, then you can start discussing a system of infrastructure, supporting the middle class, cutting tax loopholes. It is false to claim that the 5% will be relied upon as an infinite well. At this point, they are not contributing nearly enough for what they are taking. Now when you actually can show that Mitt and his buddies are paying, oh lets say, 25% effective rate, and the middle class tide is rising and we are creating actual opportunities for the lower income (and not just schemes to make them victims to sell bogus services like overpriced education, payday loans, overcharges on home loans, etc), then we’ll see.
Jm
February 20th, 2013
12:46 pm
Deal hasn’t stopped them
We live in America (sort of)
Those people can go buy health insurance whenever the want
Deal hasn’t denied them anything
Matti
February 20th, 2013
12:46 pm
DannyX,
Gov. Deal wasn’t a good businessman, but he’s learned SO MUCH about personal money management since he stepped into his latest gig. That $4mil in the hole will soon be $4mil on the plus side — all without a single month of Ramen noodles, public transportation, or cut-rate laundry soap. I’m hoping he’ll start offering personal money-management seminars to folks who lost their jobs and homes in the recession and foreclosure epidemic. He’s got it all figured out now.
too little time
February 20th, 2013
12:47 pm
No, it would not. Tax increases, fees and spending reductions already built into the ACA make the program revenue neutral, according to the CBO.
What a pitiful response, Jay. Would you like me to cite times that the CBO has been grossly wrong in it’s predictions? Or perhaps it would be easier to note the times that the CBO has actually been correct. That list is much, much (did I say much?) smaller.
The CBO takes the most rosy economic outlook, and combines that with the most rosy low estimation of a program’s expenditures. This means that they are wrong, often by orders of magnitude of error, MOST of the time. Justification of something due to a CBO outlook is laughable, at best.
getalife
February 20th, 2013
12:47 pm
cat,
Belgium’s pm resigned today because austerity failed badly.
barking frog
February 20th, 2013
12:48 pm
Jm
Deal hasn’t denied them anything
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He has denied them the services of a good Governor.
Jm
February 20th, 2013
12:48 pm
The healthcare bubble must be stopped
Deal has done his part to help stop the insanity
JamVet
February 20th, 2013
12:48 pm
Matti, you don’t become one of the 15 most corrupt members of the entire US Congress by playing small ball!
getalife
February 20th, 2013
12:49 pm
“Right-Wing Media Reported Chuck Hagel Was ‘Friends With Hamas’… Based On Reporter’s Joke”
Your media working on their credibility. bretbart is a joke.
Uh Huh.......How many CONS does it take to make 600,000?
February 20th, 2013
12:49 pm
@RB from Gwinnett
February 20th, 2013
12:34 pm
Folks, the Jay’s of the world are pissing on your head and telling you it’s raining. Wake up.
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“Jay’s of the world are pissing on your head and telling you it’s raining”
I, for one, would love to hear a description of how and when you found out the difference.
Sometimes, if you can’t change the pee,
it helps to get through the day to pretend it is rain,
because under survival conditions, even pee has its place potentially.
Uh Huh
Stevie Ray
February 20th, 2013
12:49 pm
Keep Up the Good Fight!
February 20th, 2013
12:35 pm
Yeah. I have to re-educate myself on proposed financing. I recall large reliance on NFL and hotel fees. The timing is insensitive and they really have no leverage. It’s not like they will move from Atlanta cause they don’t already have an acceptable place to play. The play is to build billion dollar, Jerry Jonesesque stadium seating 110,000 and then charging ticket fee of up to 50K per seat for the right to purchase season tickets. You will be required to buy preseason tickets as well and likley will cost up to 400 bucks a seat per game..
Yeah…its all about the fans eh?
Jm
February 20th, 2013
12:50 pm
Frog
It could be worse
Keep Up the Good Fight!
February 20th, 2013
12:51 pm
Ruh roh, looks like Matti is still upset she did not get invited to the Gov Deal-Mr. Burns 3 eyed fish fry/auto salvage auction at his garbage dump. Tickets are still available, Matti. They are free if you hire his daughter’s consulting business.
barking frog
February 20th, 2013
12:52 pm
Jm
It could be worse
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How ?
Fred ™
February 20th, 2013
12:53 pm
It is sad how little our Governor cares about his fellow Georgians. I’ll bet he even goes to breakfast and taunts any over hears that are out of work.
Keep Up the Good Fight!
February 20th, 2013
12:54 pm
Fans? How silly. Its about the jobs created and that thar multiplier effect. Otherwise the NFL and the Falcons built that, that’s what the RNC convention proved, right?
JamVet
February 20th, 2013
12:54 pm
This means that they are wrong, often by orders of magnitude of error, MOST of the time.
Completely fallacious.
And just a little research before writing that and you would have refrained…
The Congressional Budget Act of 1974 created the CBO and set the rules for choosing its director: The Speaker of the House (now Ohio’s John Boehner) and the president pro tempore of the Senate (Hawaii’s Daniel Inouye, not to be confused with the president of the Senate, Joseph Biden) make the appointment jointly, based on recommendations from the House and Senate budget committees. Congress can also remove the director via a resolution in either chamber, but that’s never happened.
By law, Congress must evaluate potential directors “without regard to political affiliation and solely on the basis of fitness to perform his duties.” A similar rule applies to the CBO director in hiring roughly 250 underlings. The office has an internal code of ethics and an administrative manual that prohibits employees from “participating in partisan political activity if such participation would identify or appear to identify CBO with a candidate, campaign, or cause.” That said, its reputation for being unbiased relies, for the most part, on the pride and effort of its workers.
Despite the lack of strict rules, the arrangement appears to be working. For one, the CBO routinely succeeds in frustrating Republicans and Democrats alike. The agency also has a strong track record. A study in the journal Polity examined the accuracy of economic forecasts made by the White House, the Federal Reserve, and the CBO between 1979 and 1997. During that time, the administration’s forecasts were the least accurate and the CBO’s were the most accurate. (The Fed forecasted inflation as accurately as the CBO but wasn’t as good on gross-national-product growth and unemployment.) The study also found partisan bias in the White House forecasts: Republican administrations tend to exaggerate inflation while Democratic ones exaggerate unemployment. Neither of these tendencies shows up in the CBO’s projections.
Fred ™
February 20th, 2013
12:56 pm
SIMPLE TRUTHS
I saw your question downstairs as I scanned through a minute ago but didn’t see anyone answer it. Here are two resources to add smiley’s and other goodies to your posts here. You them quickly because they do not work in the new system coming on the 25th.
http://codex.wordpress.org/Using_Smilies
http://www.w3schools.com/tags/ref_symbols.asp
Granny Godzilla
February 20th, 2013
12:56 pm
http://healthyfuturega.org/
worth a look
Stevie Ray
February 20th, 2013
12:56 pm
RB from Gwinnett
February 20th, 2013
12:34 pm
Not to mention the healthcare providers who will no longer accept medicaid…no body seems to want to address this thingy..
Jm
February 20th, 2013
12:58 pm
Frog
Some guy like broun could be gov
Jm
February 20th, 2013
12:59 pm
More Medicaid is not the answer to providing affordable healthcare
Obama is dumb
barking frog
February 20th, 2013
1:00 pm
Jm
Some guy like broun could be gov
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broun is a nut not a crook….
Stevie Ray
February 20th, 2013
1:00 pm
KEEP
Trickle up/trickle down, trickle sideways..none of them have proven infallable. Until the IRS laws change, every one is paying their fairshare…(I’m still struggling with how that amount is calulated and by whom)
There is an interesting article about the 20 trillion in tax revenues worldwide that is not paid due to protected tax havens..worth a read.
BTW, I’m working from a Kinkos located in the FOX News building today. If I can get a picture of me mooning whatever studio is visible by the street, do you suppose Jay will post?
ATL Tiger
February 20th, 2013
1:01 pm
Won’t these 600,000 be able to particpate on the Federal Exchange?
catlady
February 20th, 2013
1:02 pm
It was the gov’s daughter and son in law who declared bankruptsy.. TWICE! How many of you can match that?!
I have been in the ER for actual emergency and have seen how it is used by the uninsured. Sore throat? Go to the ER!
My neighbor, a rabid TPer, rails about the government requiring him to have health insurance. Of course, he is 56, sedentary, and weighs in at about 350. When he has had to go to the ER (which he will have to do, increasingly, unless he dies suddenly) he “cannot pay” so he sticks the rest of us with his care costs. I sure don’t like that! If he doesn’t want to have insurance, fine, but don’t go to the ER unless he can pay for it. And consider that not having insurance is an automatic DNR.
No, I think we should have a single payor system. And EVERYBODY contributes something.
Stevie Ray
February 20th, 2013
1:03 pm
JamVet
February 20th, 2013
12:54 pm
The CBO has proven to be a poor crystal ball for mid term numbers…say 10 years. The problem is that the politicians generally seem to boast best case scenario…never turns out that way. The usual culprit is estimated growth rate. IMO, additional layers of sandbags need to applied for any material decisions made.
RB from Gwinnett
February 20th, 2013
1:04 pm
“”Already some in Congress are trying to undo these automatic spending cuts. My message to them is simple: No, I will veto any effort to get rid of those automatic spending cuts to domestic and defense spending.” “There will be no easy off ramps on this one.”
Barack Obama, November 2011.
Seems his rhetoric has changed a bit since then. Somehow, he’s even been able to convince you libs this whole thing wasn’t his idea from the beginning, is now blaming Republicans for it, and you idiots are buying it. That ain’t rain you’re feeling, libs. Wake up.
DebbieDoRight - Minister Of Propaganda
February 20th, 2013
1:04 pm
By law, Congress must evaluate potential directors “without regard to political affiliation and solely on the basis of fitness to perform his duties.”
Quick! Somebody tell Congress this! /Driveby/
Stevie Ray
February 20th, 2013
1:05 pm
ATL Tiger
February 20th, 2013
1:01 pm
Yup…as such the wait and see posture some of these governors at taking make some sense..
Fred ™
February 20th, 2013
1:05 pm
catlady: I think the major flaw in ACA (Obamacare) IS the fact that it’s not single payer and that pretty much everyone can agree to that.
getalife
February 20th, 2013
1:05 pm
mccain getting cussed out over immigration at a town hall.
Republicans making ads supporting gay marriage.
Change is fun.
Vet
February 20th, 2013
1:05 pm
It’s not the job of the federal government to provide free health insurance. the money is not free..it’s borrowed money from China!
Fred ™
February 20th, 2013
1:07 pm
BTW, I’m working from a Kinkos located in the FOX News building today. If I can get a picture of me mooning whatever studio is visible by the street, do you suppose Jay will post?
No, he would get in BIG trouble I would imagine lol. But you send it to me and I’ll link it lol.
Vet
February 20th, 2013
1:08 pm
RB…keep telling it like it is!
getalife
February 20th, 2013
1:08 pm
vet,
Losing occupations vs healthcare for all the people.
If we get CanadaCare, we could not afford more losing occupations and nation building other countries.
Logical Dude
February 20th, 2013
1:09 pm
Vet,
It’s not the job of the federal government to provide free health insurance.
Are you a veteran with over 20 years? How much did you pay for health insurance while in the military? How much did you pay after you got out?
Mr Right
February 20th, 2013
1:09 pm
For every year thereafter, the federal government will cover 90 percent of the cost.
How can they, they are broke?
Fred ™
February 20th, 2013
1:09 pm
getalife: You don’t understand the HUGE problem that immigration is in Arizona. My cousin is so far to the left she swings a sickle, but you get her started on illegal aliens and the damage they do in Arizona………….. I can’t believe some of the things she says. And she is (was) an award winning journalist on a far left wing Arizona publication.
Matti
February 20th, 2013
1:10 pm
Fraud by the medical community is rampant. My senior citizen friend has been getting cancer treatment at N’side, and regularly receives notices about x-rays and other tests and procedures she never received. When she calls to say, “I never got an x-ray on this date,” she’s told, “Oh, YOU are not being billed for that, Mrs. Smith, so don’t worry about it.” (Medicare pays.) The “small gubmint” crowd does not want to employ the people necessary to police the system through which we’re all getting ripped off. Personally, I’d rather my tax money pay someone to prosecute the fraud than pay for the fraud.
RB from Gwinnett
February 20th, 2013
1:10 pm
“Won’t these 600,000 be able to particpate on the Federal Exchange?”
Shhhhh…..Don’t want to put a damper on Jay’s tantrum, there ATL. They’re not only going to be “able” to participate on the federal exchange, they’re going to be “REQUIRED” to participate. There will be no 600,000 uninsured unless they break the law to do so.
Fred ™
February 20th, 2013
1:10 pm
Mr Right
February 20th, 2013
1:09 pm
For every year thereafter, the federal government will cover 90 percent of the cost.
How can they, they are broke?
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So says Rush and FOX, yet everyone is still getting paid aren’t they?
Keep Up the Good Fight!
February 20th, 2013
1:11 pm
BTW, I’m working from a Kinkos located in the FOX News building today. If I can get a picture of me mooning whatever studio is visible by the street, do you suppose Jay will post?
Post the video and we’ll help it go viral. My suggestion is one of them shows like “Fox and Friends” if they have a street level window.
You may want to include a message on them cheeks. I suggest: “GOP sequester plans available here!”
Fred ™
February 20th, 2013
1:11 pm
Vet
February 20th, 2013
1:05 pm
It’s not the job of the federal government to provide free health insurance. the money is not free..it’s borrowed money from China!
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That’s a lie you have been told and keep repeating out of ignorance.
Show me the loan papers.
DebbieDoRight - Minister Of Propaganda
February 20th, 2013
1:12 pm
It looks like RB has left off some of Pres O’s comment! Boy am i surprised!!!
Let’s see the juicy stuff he decided NOT to post:
THE PRESIDENT: Good afternoon. As you all know, last summer I signed a law that will cut nearly $1 trillion of spending over the next 10 years. Part of that law also required Congress to reduce the deficit by an additional $1.2 trillion by the end of this year.
In September, I sent them a detailed plan that would have gone above and beyond that goal. It’s a plan that would reduce the deficit by an additional $3 trillion, by cutting spending, slowing the growth of Medicare and Medicaid, and asking the wealthiest Americans to pay their fair share.
This kind of balanced approach to reducing our deficit — an approach where everybody gives a little bit, and everyone does their fair share – is supported by an overwhelming majority of Americans — Democrats, independents, and Republicans. It’s supported by experts and economists from all across the political spectrum. And to their credit, many Democrats in Congress were willing to put politics aside and commit to reasonable adjustments that would have reduced the cost of Medicare, as long as they were part of a balanced approach.
But despite the broad agreement that exists for such an approach, there’s still too many Republicans in Congress who have refused to listen to the voices of reason and compromise that are coming from outside of Washington. They continue to insist on protecting $100 billion worth of tax cuts for the wealthiest 2 percent of Americans at any cost, even if it means reducing the deficit with deep cuts to things like education and medical research. Even if it means deep cuts in Medicare.
Couple of paragraphs DOWN I see RB’s post;
My message to them is simple: No. I will veto any effort to get rid of those automatic spending cuts to domestic and defense spending. There will be no easy off ramps on this one.
Man! it looks like RB is trying to mislead us into thinking that OBAMA is at fault in this whole thing!!</b<
Now why would RB do that? Can anyone tell me? Can YOU tell me RB? RB? Yoohooo RRRR BBBBB!!!
[crickets chirping in the background......]
http://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-office/2011/11/21/statement-president-supercommittee
getalife
February 20th, 2013
1:14 pm
Fred,
Tell me more about this damage because I don’t follow Arizona politics.
barking frog
February 20th, 2013
1:15 pm
Debbie Do
How are you ? I saw earlier you said hi to me too.
Granny Godzilla
February 20th, 2013
1:16 pm
Obama’s idea….and the GOP swallowed it whole.
There will be drama, but they will cave.
Right now house republicans are home in their districts listening to
their business constituents…who want them to make a deal.
You know them business guys – they don’t care for uncertainty……
td
February 20th, 2013
1:16 pm
I am waiting for next year to come and all these Dems that are going to be MANDATED to get their butts into an exchange and buy a $20,000 per year health insurance policy. We will see how FREE healthcare is and how fast they become Republicans wanting to get the government out of their lives.
getalife
February 20th, 2013
1:18 pm
td,
It will be you cons mooching but have to pay the fine.
Keep Up the Good Fight!
February 20th, 2013
1:19 pm
The “small gubmint” crowd does not want to employ the people necessary to police the system through which we’re all getting ripped off. Personally, I’d rather my tax money pay someone to prosecute the fraud than pay for the fraud.
But, but…then the corporate fraudsters might actually have to pay money back and serve time. This kind of idiotic concept is what will destroy the “government is the problem” mantra. You start giving government the money needed to fix fraud, to address waste, to close locations that are not needed, in effect to become SMART government, what exactly will be left for the rants against government. Matti, you are just being evil!
JamVet
February 20th, 2013
1:19 pm
I LOVE the government in my life!
I just feel sorry for the millions of Americans who do not have access to the socialistic, single-payer, government does nothing right, Gold Standard of healthcare that I do.
The VA.
Say it with me Republicans, I LOVE UNCLE SAM!!
td
February 20th, 2013
1:20 pm
DebbieDoRight – Minister Of Propaganda
February 20th, 2013
1:12 pm
You do understand that the “detailed plan” Obama was talking about was the budget he sent to Congress and was voted down by EVERY single member (BOTH DEMOCRAT and REPUBLICAN)?
If every single DEMOCRAT thought his budget was bogus then how can you write that the President has a sensible and reasonable plan?
barking frog
February 20th, 2013
1:21 pm
getalife
Tell me more about this damage because I don’t follow Arizona politics.
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Please don’t follow John McCain. You might get hit by a crashing plane.
getalife
February 20th, 2013
1:22 pm
frog,
mccain’s town hall was hilarious.
A old man yelling at other old people.
DebbieDoRight - Minister Of Propaganda
February 20th, 2013
1:23 pm
How are you ? I saw earlier you said hi to me too.
I’m fine froggie! I always try to say hi to you, (’cause you always make me smile)
And Fred (’cause Fred’s funny and he’s a good cook)
Sometimes to Jam (I’m really really REALLY jealous of Jam — he and Kam come up with the BEST stuff to post! AND they have great taste in music. They are my enemies)
Sometimes Kam, (see above)
Sometimes Granny (she’s becoming too likeable — I liked her better when she had a little vinegar in her blood )
Paul all the time mostly too, (He’s soooo LOGICAL! I like to see him do his back and forth thing wtih other posters! They get discouraged and run away until he leaves the blog! CLASSIC!)
If I can catch her eye, UsinK – (she’s always busy)
SoCoBro but ONLY when it’s not football season. In football season I try to say spiteful nasty hurtful things about him, his state, ugly elephants, and a coach who looks like a girl on steroids.
And Doggone (especially when she’s being feisty).
Other than that, I try to keep a low profile!
barking frog
February 20th, 2013
1:24 pm
getalife
old people are fractious…
ATL Tiger
February 20th, 2013
1:25 pm
“Gold Standard of healthcare that I do.
The VA.”
Comedy routine?
I wasn’t aware that The VA was in the same ballpark as Johns Hopkins, Mayo Clinic, Cleveland Clinic, Harvard Medical, Duke, Michigan Health, St. Judes
I guess we have different definitions of ‘gold standard’
Granny Godzilla
February 20th, 2013
1:25 pm
td
February 20th, 2013
1:20 pm
DebbieDoRight – Minister Of Propaganda
February 20th, 2013
1:12 pm
You do understand that the “detailed plan” Obama was talking about was the budget he sent to Congress and was voted down by EVERY single member (BOTH DEMOCRAT and REPUBLICAN)?
If every single DEMOCRAT thought his budget was bogus then how can you write that the President has a sensible and reasonable
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Ah, nope. I suggest you investigate this a bit further.
(I’m sure you’ll be surprised to find out that it was a GOP stunt and not the actual budget that had been submitted)
It’s important that you learn that yourself……by doing your homework.
Erwin's cat
February 20th, 2013
1:25 pm
get – cat,
Belgium’s pm resigned today because austerity failed badly.
That was Bulgaria…Belgium’s been w/o for quite a while now
Find Muck
February 20th, 2013
1:26 pm
Obama Care is the biggest lie to come down the pike
in my lifetime. Yes it may still be implemented and as it is only then
the taxpayer find out layer after layer of Lefty lies that were told to get the monstrosity passed in the first place.
Granny Godzilla
February 20th, 2013
1:27 pm
Sometimes Granny (she’s becoming too likeable — I liked her better when she had a little vinegar in her blood )
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Hey little lady ….I resemble that remark.
I was pretty tough on that dog raper yesterday.
Love ya’ too DDR.
getalife
February 20th, 2013
1:28 pm
cat,
My bad.
cnn ran a ten second piece on it and thought it was Belgium.
Jack ®
February 20th, 2013
1:29 pm
Nothing is free; Bookman knows that. The additional Medicaid will be paid by taxpayers who are already overloaded with taxes to pay benefits for those that pay nothing into the system. Bookman knows that also. There’s no end to liberal posturing.
emo
February 20th, 2013
1:29 pm
“If people get sick they can simply go to the emergency room and get free treatment.”
It’s not free; they will be billed and hounded, and if they don’t pay, you will if you ever go to the hospital.
“That way the people that already have health care insurance can pay for it. This system has been working well since Reagan signed the law in 1986.”
This sounds like socialism to me. In any case, these patients get stabilized for top dollar, then packed off until their condition gets so bad they come back. It will be treated, never cured. Guess if it’s OK with St Ronald, it’s OK with you.
“If it ain’t broke, don’t fix it.”
It’s broke, all right.
barking frog
February 20th, 2013
1:29 pm
Granny Godzilla
by doing your homework.
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Ms. frog is threatening to outsource my homework
if I don’t keep it up……
Keep Up the Good Fight!
February 20th, 2013
1:30 pm
Oh sure, now to DDR, I am just sewer waste like some of them other posters.
Why I ought to have the doodle poo on her! And here I had my Canadian Mountie hat on all day just for her. Gloom on me. 
iBS Aplenty
February 20th, 2013
1:30 pm
I wonder how many of the uninsured and uninsured-by-their-own-choice have/are: a) dropped out of school, b) cellphones & associated data plan(s), c) seriously overweight, d) eat out regularly, and e) haven’t exercised in years.
It really doesn’t cost more than a review of “WebMD” to get high quality health information on a variety of common ailments. That should take care of the healthcare woes for a large segment of your uninsured population. But you gotta be able to read….
DebbieDoRight - Minister Of Propaganda
February 20th, 2013
1:32 pm
oh and getalife! (Cause he’s a Tiger like me!)
Hi ya getalife!!!
getalife
February 20th, 2013
1:32 pm
bs,
Keep attacking Americans.
Thank you.
getalife
February 20th, 2013
1:33 pm
Hi Debbie.
LSU!
Geaux Tigers and Saints!
Granny Godzilla
February 20th, 2013
1:34 pm
we will continue to pay for the health care of those who cannot.
best to do it more effectively.
iBS Aplenty
February 20th, 2013
1:37 pm
get,
Answer the questions and be the indivdual your dog thinks you are…
TBone
February 20th, 2013
1:37 pm
There’s nothing affordable about the Affordable Care Act. My family’s health care premium has sky rocketed and coverage levels plummeted. This is gonna crash and burn.
Brosephus™
February 20th, 2013
1:38 pm
DDR
Forgot to respond from earler. We have girl #2 in the house.
RB from Gwinnett
February 20th, 2013
1:38 pm
Debbie, I’m not seeing the connection you’re trying to make from the first half of the speech. He spent a bunch of time bashing Republicans with the same old rhetoric. So what? He made the comment and it’s 180 degrees different from the rhetoric he’s spewing today.
deegee
February 20th, 2013
1:39 pm
This morning I had a conversation with my 87 year old, Fox News loving mother over the abysmal level of service that she gets from her internist’s administrative staff. She let me know that it’s all because of Obamacare and that things are only going to get worse because of it. I let her know that I get very good service from the administrative staff of my primary care provider and specialist. I wasn’t attempting to be argumentative. I was merely suggesting that she might want to consider going to another internist. She wasn’t having it. Fox News told her so and there’s nothing anyone can do or say to convince her otherwise.
Keep Up the Good Fight!
February 20th, 2013
1:39 pm
That should take care of the healthcare woes for a large segment of your uninsured population.
Well sure. Like self-deportation, self-diagnosis and self-treatment works wonders. Like after a car accident, surely everyone knows that even the boy scout manual tells you how to set a bone. And if you are overweight, be sure to know its your fault and not anything like BPA included in your foods. That’s why GOPpers routinely rant against the nanny state telling people whats in their food or how many calories are in that low cost food that some can barely afford. I am sure that many low income neighborhoods have very fine high quality food restaurants available while them people stand and wait for a bus to connect them to a train system that “we” don’t want in our neighborhood.
Latrina
February 20th, 2013
1:40 pm
Jay said “At some point, it’s time to accept reality.”
The biggest reality is that the federal government is bankrupt.
The $ billions of federal aid for Medicaid expansion is not free manna from heaven, every dollar will somehow eventually have to be paid by U.S. taxpayers. We are approaching the point where we’ll never be able to tax, borrow, or print our way out of the deficit hole.
Granny Godzilla
February 20th, 2013
1:40 pm
Bro!
Congratulations on your daughter! What a blessing.
And the lovely Mrs. Bro, is she feeling well?
Corbin Sharpe. I think, therefore I am...I think.
February 20th, 2013
1:42 pm
Brosephus™
February 20th, 2013
1:38 pm
BRO’!
Congrats! As a father of three girls,. all I can say is love them now…when they become teens…as USinUK would say…Oy, to the Vey!
Erwin's cat
February 20th, 2013
1:42 pm
The biggest reality is that the federal government is bankrupt.
Is that the same federal gov’t that prints money?
PoliticsNation States with highest uninsured numbers pushing back on healthcare
February 20th, 2013
1:42 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jv6D3tGw880
Corbin Sharpe. I think, therefore I am...I think.
February 20th, 2013
1:43 pm
Bro,
When my girls were teens, I had pet names for them, Migraine, Ulcer, and Gray Hair…just sayin’
Erwin's cat
February 20th, 2013
1:43 pm
Congrats Bro….get your sleep while you can
Logical Dude
February 20th, 2013
1:43 pm
Bro,
Congrats and may you catch sleep at any opportune moment!
DebbieDoRight - Minister Of Propaganda
February 20th, 2013
1:43 pm
I LOVE you Keep!!! While i was writing my original post i was being attacked by angry republicans in drag and i had to fight my way through their throngs in thongs! there’s nothing more scary than angry republicans in drag dressed to look like Phyllis Diller!!!
Please forgive me!!
It’s not my fault….
Kam made me do it!!
Jam helped him to make me do it!!
they’re just jealous of our special friendship!!
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@td – You do realize don’t you that I was taking the quote that RB posted and gave it in its entire context?
I mean that was so obvious right? Right? TD? Yooo Hooooooo!!!! TTTTT DEEEEEE!!
Yeah, just like I thought — all indignation, no common sense…………
Logical Dude
February 20th, 2013
1:44 pm
Erwin’ cat @ 1:43. (vs. Logical Dude @ 1:43)
Quit doing that!
Erwin's cat
February 20th, 2013
1:46 pm
Logical Dude @ 1:44 – Jay gave me a heads up on what you were gonna post
Jefferson
February 20th, 2013
1:46 pm
Why do people care if someone has a cell phone ? Its easy to mind others business isn’t it ?
getalife
February 20th, 2013
1:47 pm
Mayors are trying new and different ways to govern.
Red States are doing nothing as usual.
“Bob Beckel: Rape On College Campuses Doesn’t Really Happen ” HP
The war on women is still raging.
The gop civil war is still raging.
Change is fun.
Thomas Heyward Jr
February 20th, 2013
1:48 pm
“In addition, it should help lower health-insurance costs in general, because the rest of us won’t be paying for health care for the uninsured through our health-care premiums.”
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Delusional.
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And Obamacare WILL go away….one way or another.
Doggone/GA
February 20th, 2013
1:49 pm
“When my girls were teens, I had pet names for them, Migraine, Ulcer, and Gray Hair…just sayin’”
Insanity is inherited…you get it from your children
JamVet
February 20th, 2013
1:49 pm
No tiger, you have uninformed opinions, I have the facts.
http://tinyurl.com/bgb7j3o
But carry on.
And I sure do wish I could switch places with you!
So I could drive to Dr, Dickemover’s office, pay huge money on the spot, after already having paid huge money for my premiums and then go to the pharmacy where I could shell out some more huge money.
Then fight for weeks and months on end with thousands of paper shuffling, bungling bureaucrats at some giant HMO to try and get some of it reimbursed.
Yeah, baby.
The best healthcare in the world!!
Steve
February 20th, 2013
1:49 pm
My guess is that if Medicare was introduced today, the same anti anything to do with Federal goverment (unless its the bloated military industrial complex) would be wailling about socialism taking over our lives. But you same people, now, truly will or do depend on Medicare after age 65. I know my republican elderly relatives do.
Steve
February 20th, 2013
1:50 pm
Wow, did I just write that in such horrible English? Good grief.
td
February 20th, 2013
1:50 pm
deegee
February 20th, 2013
1:39 pm
This morning I had a conversation with my 87 year old, Fox News loving mother over the abysmal level of service that she gets from her internist’s administrative staff. She let me know that it’s all because of Obamacare and that things are only going to get worse because of it. I let her know that I get very good service from the administrative staff of my primary care provider and specialist. I wasn’t attempting to be argumentative. I was merely suggesting that she might want to consider going to another internist. She wasn’t having it. Fox News told her so and there’s nothing anyone can do or say to convince her otherwise.
Your mother is a very wise woman. She must have spared the rod on you for the blatant disrespect you show her by becoming a progressive.
Corbin Sharpe. I think, therefore I am...I think.
February 20th, 2013
1:50 pm
“…And Obamacare WILL go away….one way or another.”
Yeah, just like Medicare did.
Uh Huh.......How many CONS does it take to make 600,000?
February 20th, 2013
1:50 pm
@deegee
February 20th, 2013
1:39 pm
This morning I had a conversation with my 87 year old, Fox News loving mother over the abysmal level of service that she gets from her internist’s administrative staff. She let me know that it’s all because of Obamacare and that things are only going to get worse because of it.
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“the abysmal level of service that she gets from her internist’s administrative staff. She let me know that it’s all because of Obamacare”
Because of Obamacare?
Are YOU KIDDING ME?
How IGNORANT of her to say that.
That is as ignorant as some of my 80 and 90 year old neighbors
who still call black people COLORED.
Hey Libs, how is your paychecks looking now
February 20th, 2013
1:51 pm
How pays for this 600,000 users of Medicaid services?
That’s the question Repubs are able to ask and the Dems say, just add more taxes to pay for it!
600,000 more raised to live off the government!
Steve
February 20th, 2013
1:52 pm
The 600,000 are living off the government now by going to the emergency room for sniffles and you and I pay for that with ever increasing health insurance costs. Which do you prefer? Streamlining the process to save money or keeping the failed old way because you fear change?
Keep Up the Good Fight!
February 20th, 2013
1:54 pm
Dangit Debbie, I can’t stay mad at you. Perhaps a rousing round of “I’m a Lumberjack” will help all our spirits.
That Kam is just evil I tell you. He’s mad because Holly Sonders asked me to meet her in a Holiday Inn Express.
Here’s my newest plan if you want in on it. I am going to call Donald Trump a few names and start a petition. He’ll threaten to sue me. I’ll ask for donations to fight him for being so anti-American that he ignores well-established 1st Amendment rights. I know I can win the lawsuit, but I am not sure Donald really has the money to pay a large judgment. I may just have settle for “you’re fired”. http://tv.msn.com/tv/article.aspx?news=791623&affid=100055
Jefferson
February 20th, 2013
1:54 pm
No matter what if insurance company profits are high and health care workers pay is high it will be expensive. If the cost are not spread out it will not be affordable. Deal is crapping in his flat hat.
Doggone/GA
February 20th, 2013
1:55 pm
“600,000 more raised to live off the government!”
Yeah, just let ‘em die. We don’t need ‘em anyway
DebbieDoRight - Minister Of Propaganda
February 20th, 2013
1:56 pm
Granny: I was pretty tough on that dog raper yesterday.
Sigh. Granny, you told the guy to have a nice day!! That’s not being tough Granny, that’s being polite!
GG: Love ya’ too DDR.
You’re breaking my heart GG!! You’re breaking my heart!! Ever since you’ve turned to Granny G from Mrs. G; you’ve become sooooo………..likeable……..Sigh. Love you too GG….You too GG…. You too…….[DDR crying softly in the background…….]
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Bro – TWO GIRLS!!! YEAH!! Now you’re gonna be like ME when I was growing up!! Surrounded by people who love you, but don’t understand what the hell you’re talking about!! Estrogen RULES!!!! Hey Bro – think Pink, lots and lots of pink AND get to know things like “Barbie’s first boyfriend’s Name” and “Whether Barbie is better than the Bratz”. This is gonna be good!!! [DDR laughing WITH you hee hee]
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RB: Debbie, I’m not seeing the connection you’re trying to make from the first half of the speech. He spent a bunch of time bashing Republicans with the same old rhetoric. So what? He made the comment and it’s 180 degrees different from the rhetoric he’s spewing today.
Well, color me surprised!!!
You have a tendency to only see what you wish to see. I call it, RB Syndrome OR Blind Man Walking.
bman.
February 20th, 2013
1:57 pm
do emergency rooms not have some sort of policy in place as to what is considered an emergency?
td
February 20th, 2013
1:58 pm
Steve
February 20th, 2013
1:52 pm
The 600,000 are living off the government now by going to the emergency room for sniffles and you and I pay for that with ever increasing health insurance costs. Which do you prefer? Streamlining the process to save money or keeping the failed old way because you fear change?
All these 600,000 are not going to emergency rooms and not paying their bills because they would all have horrible credit and could not get a loan for anything. I would say the vast majority of them are finding a way to pay their bills. Hospitals only have to serve people IF it is in a life saving emergency. If they come into the ER with the sniffles then they are going to make the person pay something before they are seen. If the Hospital is not doing this then they are making up the money somewhere else.
Erwin's cat
February 20th, 2013
1:58 pm
You have a tendency to only see what you wish to see.
a hammer see’s a world of nails
Steve
February 20th, 2013
1:58 pm
Again, I blame the Democrats with poor messaging about Obamacare. The right wing media sends out more misinformation than the Democrats can send out actual facts. People actually supporting the use of the emergency room for free over streamlining costs via insuring everyone and providing health care at lower costs blows my mind. It’s no different than saying that the EArth is 4000 years old because you never took a science class or made it past the 10th grade.-
deegee
February 20th, 2013
1:59 pm
What is so bad about health insurance? Do those of you that are getting health insurance through your employer think that it’s free? You are paying a portion of it, but your employer is paying the rest of the tab. The older you get, the more your employer has to pay to keep you insured. You might say that everyone that works for the company is paying the employer’s tab in the form of lower wages, but it’s better for you to have health insurance coverage than another $1,000.00 or so in your paycheck every year. It’s better for your employer because they have a healthier work force.
barking frog
February 20th, 2013
1:59 pm
Keep Up
I know I can win the lawsuit, but I am not sure Donald really has the money to pay a large judgment.
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Donald can sell his hair for millions but if you can’t levy
against it you are out of luck as it cannot be attached.
Redneck Convert (R--and proud of it)
February 20th, 2013
2:00 pm
Well, I’m hurt bad, is what I am. Debbie Do Everybody overlooked me like I was her dirty dishes in the sink.
Harummph!
Policy Watch
February 20th, 2013
2:02 pm
The 2010 Legislative Session ended on Thursday, April 29. Unfortunately, lawmakers did not extend the sales tax exemption for free clinics, which will end on June 30. GFCN will continue its efforts to call attention to the effect the loss of this exemption will have on the clinics and their ability to provide patient care.
SB 344, is related to the “‘Health Share’ Volunteers in Medicine Act,” and provides for sovereign immunity protection for compensated physician assistants in safety net clinics who participate in the program. Governor Perdue signed the bill on May 20. It goes into effect on July 1.
Other health legislation that passed and may be of interest:
The FY 2011 budget was adopted on the last day of the session. Health department grants and efforts targeting maternal and child health, strokes and hypertension sustained deep cuts. The Area Health Education Centers were also affected.
HB 307 imposes a 1.45% bed tax on hospitals, which will generate $300 million for the state. The funds be deposited into the Indigent Care Trust Fund where they will be used to draw down more federal dollars to pay providers treating Medicaid and PeachCare patients.
HB 317 states that Georgians cannot be compelled to “participate in any health care system,” and that the purchase or sale of health insurance products and/or direct healthcare services could not be prohibited. But, because federal law predominates, HB 317 is not expected to have much impact. Of note and related to this legislation, Georgia has officially joined a federal lawsuit against the new health reform law. The complaint is based on the 10th Amendment to the US Constitution which provides that powers not granted to the national government and not prohibited to the states are reserved to the states.
Road safety legislation includes: SB 360 and HB 23 and are related to the use of cellular phones while driving. The Senate bill bans texting by all drivers, and the House bill bans drivers under 18 from talking on their cell phones while on the road. SB 458 now requires pickup truck drivers to wear seat belts.
SB 367 authorizes extended family or friends to make medical decisions on behalf of another when there are no immediate family members.
GFCN will continue to keep you informed on the issues affecting charitable clinics. You may also visit http://www.legis.state.ga.us for information from the Capitol.
Erwin's cat
February 20th, 2013
2:02 pm
Convert – Well, I’m hurt bad, is what I am. Debbie Do Everybody overlooked me like I was her dirty dishes in the sink.
I know how ya feel…but, at least I got a shout out from indigo
Brosephus™
February 20th, 2013
2:02 pm
GG
Thanks!! Mrs. Bro is the truth!!! She’s great considering this one was a natural birth because lil mama was being impatient and was in a hurry to express her independence.
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Corbin
Thanks, and I’ll keep those names in mind. I have a feeling that I’m gonna have my hands full.
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Erwin’s Cat & Logical Dude
What’s sleep???
I’m getting used to those power naps all over again.
td
February 20th, 2013
2:02 pm
Doggone/GA
February 20th, 2013
1:55 pm
“600,000 more raised to live off the government!”
Yeah, just let ‘em die. We don’t need ‘em anyway
How about they sacrifice that I-phone, monthly cable bill, new car to be able to pay a healthcare premium? What is wrong with that plan? People take risk everyday. If a person chooses to risk their health for the luxury’s in life then should they not have to suffer the consequences for their choices?
Georgia's Free Clinics
February 20th, 2013
2:04 pm
• The Georgia Free Clinic Network connects non-profit medical and dental clinics across Georgia serving the over 1.7 million uninsured. According to the Georgia State Auditor, these clinics provide $200 to $400 million of care while only reaching 10 percent of the uninsured population. Charitable clinics are the unseen fabric of the health care safety net in communities, especially in rural areas, serving homeless individuals and those with chronic and life-threatening illnesses such as cancer, hypertension, and diabetes.
• Many uninsured individuals are limited to accessing health care through local hospital emergency rooms. A study in one community revealed that a typical ER visit to diagnose and treat a sore throat is $270. A patient visit at a GFCN clinic is $29, including medication. Not only are the free clinics a tremendous saving to taxpayers and hospitals, they also provide a primary care base and a place where patients can return for routine care.
• Georgia’s charitable clinics delivered health care services to approximately 175,000 low-income, uninsured Georgians in 2008. This year, clinics are experiencing increases of 25 to 75 percent over 2008. Despite the growth of patients served, clinics are forced to turn away an estimated 50,000 Georgians due to lack of capacity.
• 80% of free clinic patients have one or more chronic illnesses, requiring extensive and ongoing medical care, care coordination and patient education.
• 65% of the clinics in Georgia have a religious affiliation.
• The top sources of funding for the clinics are individuals, churches, civic groups and corporations.
• The average number of hours per week a clinic is open is 9.5.
• 57% of the patients seen in Georgia clinics are female.
• 85% of the patients treated are between the ages of 18 & 64 years.
• At an average clinic, the percentage of patients who are:
White-40%; African-American-41%; Latino-16%
• The percentage of patients who are 200% FPL-4%
• 95% of the clinics have an on-site pharmaceutical facility.
• The average number of volunteer hours per clinic per year is 2000.
deegee
February 20th, 2013
2:05 pm
td, when you get to be 87 years old and in poor health, you better hope you have a progressive somewhere in your immediate family because the cons come around only at Christmas and Thanksgiving.
Keep Up the Good Fight!
February 20th, 2013
2:06 pm
frog, I was planning on donating that to a zoo or science for study.
DebbieDoRight - Minister Of Propaganda
February 20th, 2013
2:07 pm
That Kam is just evil I tell you. He’s mad because Holly Sonders asked me to meet her in a Holiday Inn Express.
Yep – he’s a hater.
Here’s my newest plan if you want in on it. I am going to call Donald Trump a few names and start a petition.
Ha! I heard about that! Donald should be glad that no one has started a betting pool on how soon his hot young wife will get bored with him (and his “hair”); and leave him for his pool boy, “Studly Man In Tight Swimsuit”.
This is why I love Capitalism………….in spite of everything I really LOVE capitalism…… When an old, ugly, fat, man with a poodle on his head can buy himself some hot young chick, it gives everyone hope!
People like RB, td, MP, and mama says never have to be alone again! All they need is money and maybe a bath and some mouthwash, and they no longer have to be lonely!
“As The Dollar Bill As My Witness — I NEVAH Will Be Alone Again!!!”
— RB From GW in GA talking some BS.
Proud Voter
February 20th, 2013
2:08 pm
Continue to follow the money after Deal leaves office. My guess is his area of the state and his supporters will have everything the rest of the state does not have.
getalife
February 20th, 2013
2:10 pm
“If there was ever one thing that would compel Republican state leaders to set aside their political and ideological opposition to President Barack Obama’s health care reform law, it was going to be lobbying by powerful health care interests in their backyards.
That may be playing in right now in Republican Gov. Rick Scott’s Florida.
Representatives of the Sunshine States’s hospital industry pleaded with state lawmakers at a hearing Monday for Florida to buy into Obamacare’s Medicaid expansion to more poor people, a move GOP legislators have resisted and about which Scott recently has been mum. ”
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/jeffrey-young/florida-medicaid-lobbying_b_2725853.html
AmericaShrugged
February 20th, 2013
2:10 pm
Another patently dishonest spin article from the socialist. Jay implies those 620,000 will be left without insurance and Georgia will be left without the jobs created by the 620,000 getting health care.
What he doesn’t write is that every last one of those 620,000 will be covered by Obamacare through the exchanges instead. If we expand Medicaid, they are trapped in Medicaid, a poor provider of health care services, and can’t get Obamacare.
He declining Deal is allowing hundreds of thousands of Gerogians access to better health care insurance and. presumably, better health care.
barking frog
February 20th, 2013
2:11 pm
Keep Up
frog, I was planning on donating that to a zoo or science for study.
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a worthy purpose, perhaps future generations can avoid the affliction…
AmericaShrugged
February 20th, 2013
2:11 pm
should be By declining
Bobby Cooper
February 20th, 2013
2:12 pm
Just Brilliant!! I would say “our” Governor is not the brightest light bulb in the pack. Look at his own personal finances when came into office….. Can’t wait until the elections!!! bye bye bubba!!
Matti
February 20th, 2013
2:12 pm
Brosephus,
CONGRATS!!! Girls rock! And… they can be rough-tough varsity athletes, and STILL look sweet as pie in a (super-expensive) prom dress. Best of both worlds!
JamVet
February 20th, 2013
2:12 pm
She must have spared the rod on you for the blatant disrespect you show her by becoming a progressive.
I LOVE progressives. That is why I am one!
I’m following in the greatest of American traditions and in the footsteps of American heroes like George Washington, John Adams, Thomas Jefferson, Sojourner Truth, Frederick Douglass, Abraham Lincoln, Elizabeth Cady Stanton, Eleanor Roosevelt, W.E.B. Du Bois, Eugene Debs, Theodore Roosevelt, MLK Jr, Louis Brandies, Woody Guthrie, Earl Warren, Thurgood Marshall and Ralph Nader, among many others
And if not for us progressives the non-progressives would still be burning witches in Salem, buying and selling Africans, having their McCarthy witch hunts and having children work in sweat shops.
And just as we always have, we are going to keep growing in numbers and power in our constant struggle to make this a more perfect union…
Granny Godzilla
February 20th, 2013
2:12 pm
DDR
I guess for some having a dog bite their narglies can be a nice day….
St Simons - he-ne-ha
February 20th, 2013
2:12 pm
oh, its all unraveling for the cons.
if this ACA fails by their sabotage, we get Medicare for All
heheh – Change, and skidmarks heheh
Erwin's cat
February 20th, 2013
2:14 pm
St Simons – I’d take a single payer in a heart beat and get the ins co’s out of health care
getalife
February 20th, 2013
2:15 pm
It is totally bizarre the gop are fighting against big business but they just have to get Obama.
Brosephus™
February 20th, 2013
2:17 pm
DDR
Don’t forget the tea parties that I will be invited to attend.
Erwin's cat
February 20th, 2013
2:19 pm
Bro – Don’t forget the tea parties that I will be invited to attend.
what?…you’re old angry and white now?
barking frog
February 20th, 2013
2:19 pm
This healthcare insurance thing was so simple.
Medicare for all. Subsidies for those that couldn’t
afford it.
bookman parrot
February 20th, 2013
2:20 pm
love your final statement about Obamacare not going away. i.e. all you care about is your beloved lib big-gov’t crap got pushed onto the country and you don’t care about the possible fallout… just that you got your way… i hope you get to eat your words … but you won’t anyhow .. because it will be someone else’s fault in typical lib fashion…
DebbieDoRight - Minister Of Propaganda
February 20th, 2013
2:20 pm
Well, I’m hurt bad, is what I am. Debbie Do Everybody overlooked me like I was her dirty dishes in the sink.
I’m sorry I forgot about you RC!! You bring such joy into my life!! If it wasn’t for you driving that beer truck, where would half of Georgia be? You do such a valuable service and I am so sorry that I forgot to mention you!!
A Beer Truck Driving Man is a REAL MAN!
PS: EC drinks Merlot!! (smile – hiya E.C.!)
Jefferson
February 20th, 2013
2:21 pm
GA would be better off with the money, bad deal.
Uh Huh.......How many CONS does it take to make 600,000?
February 20th, 2013
2:21 pm
@Hey Libs, how is your paychecks looking now
February 20th, 2013
1:51 pm
How pays for this 600,000 users of Medicaid services?
That’s the question Repubs are able to ask and the Dems say, just add more taxes to pay for it!
600,000 more raised to live off the government!
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
HOW MANY CONS ON THIS BLOG HAVE SOMEONE
ALREADY ON MEDICAID?
Brosephus™
February 20th, 2013
2:21 pm
Matti
Thanks. Big sister already does swimming and soccer. Last fall she asked about playing football. I have a feeling that lil sister will be the same.
Uh Huh.......How many CONS does it take to make 600,000?
February 20th, 2013
2:23 pm
HOW MANY CONS ON THIS BLOG HAVE OR KNOW SOMEONE
ALREADY ON MEDICAID?
Doggone/GA
February 20th, 2013
2:23 pm
“How about they sacrifice ”
How about you go interview all of them and verify they actually have those things you think they don’t need?
Bernie
February 20th, 2013
2:25 pm
correction:
Jay, what is even more outrageous and offensive than the Governor’s decision. Is the SILENCE from Mayor REED and his office and including the Atlanta City Council. Being that ALL of them are supposedly, such ardent OBAMA suppporters. The MAYORS own personal political ambition is in direct conflict with the Real needs of Atlanta’s most neediest citizens.
Dr.King and his associates would be greatly saddened and disturbed to know that an African American elected Mayor of Atlanta in 2013, has more concern and care about a FOOTBALL Stadium than he does for its most poorest citizens Black & White.
It Should quite obvious to ALL Atlanta’s citzens and VOTERS that this MAYOR and City Council is more concerned about increasing the Profits and the Pocketbook of Arthur Blank and the Falcon Organization with the constant CHEERLEADING for Mr.Blanks new STADIUM. The number of 600,000 uninsured is not an accurate number, as stated in your article.
The actual statistic is more in the millions statewide.
Atlanta is the home of the largest group of uninsured and underinsured residents statewide.
The number of Atlanta’s uninsured and underinsured residents, whom the majority are children,women,seniors,disabled and handicapped alone dwarfs that 600,000 number by (3) times
the count, if you really want to know the Truth.
Mayor REED and the Atlanca City Council should ALL be replaced and voted out of office, not only for this reason but in the continual ongoing MISMANAGEMENT of the City of Atlanta Government.
barking frog
February 20th, 2013
2:27 pm
Uh Huh…….How many CONS does it take to make 600,000?
………………………………………………………………………..
1,200,000 because they are so half a$$ed
Erwin's cat
February 20th, 2013
2:27 pm
DDR – PS: EC drinks Merlot!! (smile – hiya E.C.!)
actually I prefer a good cab or pinot noir…..but they all make for a good vinegar after 3 mos
too little time
February 20th, 2013
2:27 pm
This means that they are wrong, often by orders of magnitude of error, MOST of the time.
Completely fallacious.
Really? How about those CBO estimates for the Medicare doughnut hole program, CBO estimates for Obamacare (which have ALREADY been proven to be grossly incorrect… and Obamacare hasn’t even been in full affect yet).
Or maybe you would like a paper written by the fed:
http://research.stlouisfed.org/publications/review/12/01/21-40Kliesen.pdf
Sorry, but when the CBO estimates for a budget or for a new Federal program, they get it wrong MOST of the time.
DebbieDoRight - Minister Of Propaganda
February 20th, 2013
2:28 pm
Bro – regarding tea parties………….. the image that your words created….. man I can’t WAIT!!!
http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m1b1bzfTmP1qzb7vjo1_1280.jpg
Tap Out
February 20th, 2013
2:28 pm
We got a bad Deal.
Brosephus™
February 20th, 2013
2:29 pm
EC
These are the REAL tea parties, complete with cookies or some other snack. Bro doesn’t turn down sharing a snack with the lil one.
Give me a few more years, and I’ll probably become one of those old grumpy White men. Seems like that’s what happens when you get closer to retirement age.
St Simons - he-ne-ha
February 20th, 2013
2:33 pm
EC – “I’d take a single payer in a heart beat and get the ins co’s
out of health care.”
Please talk to your pahhty, then. You make sense. They don’t.
You (like mrsstsimons) must have work/ed in healthcare…
DebbieDoRight - Minister Of Propaganda
February 20th, 2013
2:34 pm
Dr.King and his associates would be greatly saddened and disturbed to know that an African American elected Mayor of Atlanta in 2013
OMG I’m amazed! I’m simply amazed! Is there NO SHAME anymore?
Hey, why stop with Dr. King? I mean if we’re channeling dead people, why not go all the way?
**Elivs Pressley and his associates would be greatly saddened ..
**Eleanor Roosevelt and her associates would be greatly saddened …..
**Shaka Zulu and his associates would be greatly saddened …..
**Robert E. Lee and his associates would be greatly saddened ….
Dude, if you’re gonna go there, don’t stop……..go ALL THE WAY!
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E.C. — that’s why I like Beer or Tequilia. As far as I can tell, neither of them go bad after a couple of months.
**John Lennon and his associates would be greatly saddened …
Fred ™
February 20th, 2013
2:34 pm
Redneck Convert (R–and proud of it)
February 20th, 2013
2:00 pm
Well, I’m hurt bad, is what I am. Debbie Do Everybody overlooked me like I was her dirty dishes in the sink.
Harummph!
+++++++++++++++++++++
I’m here for you Redneck Convert. Us Rednecks have to look out for each other. Here ya go, let me play you a song…….
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zZmMwP5bELE
Brosephus™
February 20th, 2013
2:35 pm
DDR
That image is cool. I actually need to put down some rubber mulch around the playhouse while I’m off work. I can’t fit inside there or else we would probably be sleeping there every night.
Fred ™
February 20th, 2013
2:36 pm
E.C. — that’s why I like Beer or Tequilia. As far as I can tell, neither of them go bad after a couple of months.
You better cross beer off that list. Take six pack, put it in the fridge. Take it out. Let it get warm. Put it back in. Take it out. Put it back in. Drink it…… or try……
Fred ™
February 20th, 2013
2:37 pm
Yo Brocephus: You need some help with a construction project while your off give me a holler. I’ll come help. I’ll even bring the tools and the brains. You can be the strong back……..
Feds announce biggest-ever Medicare fraud, totaling $450 million
February 20th, 2013
2:38 pm
Federal prosecutors have charged 107 people, including doctors and nurses, in seven U.S. cities, accusing them of taking part in schemes to cheat the Medicare system out of $452 million through phony billing. Authorities are calling this the largest one-day takedown ever by the government’s Medicare fraud task force.
TaxPayer
February 20th, 2013
2:38 pm
Republicans don’t do math or science and now Erwin professes that he also doesn’t do astrology. The stars have aligned.
Fred ™
February 20th, 2013
2:40 pm
People like RB, td, MP, and mama says never have to be alone again! All they need is money and maybe a bath and some mouthwash, and they no longer have to be lonely!
Actually the bath and mouthwash are optional as long as you have enough money.
JamVet
February 20th, 2013
2:42 pm
I don’t normally enjoy or pass along “fat” jokes, but this one is pretty clever and damn funny:
I was at the bar the other night and overheard three very hefty women talking at the bar.
Their accent appeared to be Scottish, so I approached and asked, “Hello, are you three lassies from Scotland ?”
One of them angrily screeched, “It’s Wales you bloody idiot!”
So I replied, “I am so sorry. Are you three whales from Scotland?”
And that’s the last thing I remember.
Peadawg
February 20th, 2013
2:43 pm
“Medicare for all. Subsidies for those that couldn’t afford it.”
And just how in the world do you plan to pay for that?
Redcoat
February 20th, 2013
2:43 pm
Obamascare…….part time workers…….perfect match………”there ought to be a law”…”and another”…..”and another”
Oscar
February 20th, 2013
2:44 pm
The state is broke. So is the federal government. Deal made the right choice.
Class of '98
February 20th, 2013
2:44 pm
“Many of those newly created jobs will be in the well-paying medical industry”
Jay, are you sure we will even have enough qualified/educated workers to fill these positions? After all, under Obama, our unemployment rate has plummeted and hundreds of thousands, if not millions, of people have been hired into the booming green energy sector.
Then you woke up.
Fred ™
February 20th, 2013
2:45 pm
DDR: There is one thing you CAN’T tell me or Bro, and that is the value of butterfly kisses.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vmC3rJR7E98
That Black Guy
February 20th, 2013
2:45 pm
BILL
February 20th, 2013
11:16 am
Just keep it up Bubba Governor. Your decision will help lift GA to a purple state within 4 years or so, and maybe a blue state within 8-10 years.
______________________________________
Why is it that people like you (red state vs blue state) NEVER call for a “Red, White, and Blue” state.
Party over country sucks no matter WHICH side does it.
Doggone/GA
February 20th, 2013
2:48 pm
“Sorry, but when the CBO estimates for a budget or for a new Federal program, they get it wrong MOST of the time”
The CBO can only work with the numbers they are given. If the numbers are wrong, then yes, their projections will be wrong. For an example, check out the projections on the drug bill and how they changed it later when they got better numbers.
Union
February 20th, 2013
2:48 pm
I thought obamacare had all of this covered….
DebbieDoRight - Minister Of Propaganda
February 20th, 2013
2:49 pm
Actually the bath and mouthwash are optional as long as you have enough money.
Man, you’d have to be really committed to Gold Digging if you can completely ignore the funky mouth and body.
JamVet
February 20th, 2013
2:50 pm
And just how in the world do you plan to pay for that?
Under the current system, hundreds of billions of dollars a year go into insurance company overhead, unnecessary and fraudulent billing and administrative costs for health-care providers, and huge profits and high salaries at large HMOs and other health-care companies. ~Ralph Nader
Single Payer Now. Everybody in, nobody out.
That Black Guy
February 20th, 2013
2:53 pm
TaxPayer
February 20th, 2013
11:41 am
Republicans don’t do math or science so how could they know
___________________________________________
Even the ones who are math teachers and scientists?
Steve
February 20th, 2013
2:53 pm
I don’t get it. You look at Canada, and they made their single payer system work. For premium/Cadillac care, employers supplement health insurance to fill the 20% gap that their Medicare doesn’t cover (similar to as if we had Medicare for all here, not just those over 65). Yes they pay more in taxes but in the long run it’s cheaper for everyone. It’s streamlined. no middleman costs and less waste. They sometimes wait longer for some procedures and specialists but so do most of us here now, unless you are in the top 10% of earners. We happen to have some of the best doctors in the world her but most can’t even afford to utilize them. We also over pay our specialists compared to other countries.
Fred ™
February 20th, 2013
2:57 pm
Man, you’d have to be really committed to Gold Digging if you can completely ignore the funky mouth and body.
You don’t know my sister in law……..
Redcoat
February 20th, 2013
2:57 pm
if spending isn’t solving anything, someone must not be doing their job properly…..when your jobs depends on victims…..who ya gonna call?
Brosephus™
February 20th, 2013
2:58 pm
Fred
I’ll keep that in mind.
Erwin's cat
February 20th, 2013
2:59 pm
St Simons – Please talk to your pahhty, then. You make sense. They don’t.
You (like mrsstsimons) must have work/ed in healthcare…
not me but some family are in healthcare
That Black Guy
February 20th, 2013
3:01 pm
Jay
February 20th, 2013
11:38 am
No, it would not. Tax increases, fees and spending reductions already built into the ACA make the program revenue neutral, according to the CBO.
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Jay, what is the CBO’s record on accuracy in projections?
Heavyhitter
February 20th, 2013
3:02 pm
The worst part of Deal’s decision is that since there will be no coverage, the uninsured will flock to the emergency rooms as they do now thus making them almost inoperable.
Erwin's cat
February 20th, 2013
3:03 pm
Fred – You don’t know my sister in law……..
So, is she single?
Fred ™
February 20th, 2013
3:05 pm
Hey Jay, got your hankie handy? you too Bro, but Jay’s is older………..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9KHAaRxyuQk&list=PL282D3875EE9CD403
TaxPayer
February 20th, 2013
3:06 pm
Even the ones who are math teachers and scientists?
A Republican teacher! Teachers especially should know what an oxymoron is although I would be inclined to make an exception for those faith-based “math” and “science” teachers given the appropriate re-definition of said terms. They could certainly be Republicans. Or even Libertarians.
Erwin's cat
February 20th, 2013
3:08 pm
TP – Faith based science?…Like GCC?
Steve
February 20th, 2013
3:08 pm
I’d rather that poor residents have access to clinics for cheaper care than filling up emergency rooms and costing everyone more money in the long run. It really is that simple. Even better, single payer for all at 80% coverage – supplemental health insurance for those who want premium care.
Fred ™
February 20th, 2013
3:09 pm
Erwin’s cat
February 20th, 2013
3:03 pm
Fred – You don’t know my sister in law……..
So, is she single?
++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Can you do better than a mansion by the Governors Mansion, Broadway openings, Elton John’s Oscar Parties, furniture factories in China, and all the money that goes with it? If so she could be. If not she won’t even look at you.
JamVet
February 20th, 2013
3:12 pm
Steve, good post.
We progressives and liberals have the better ideas for this country, pretty much across the board now. (Notwithstanding that the Republican-lite BHO implemented a version of RomneyCare to satisfy his corporate paymasters at Kaiser, BCBS, Aetna, Pfizer, GlaxoSmithKline and Merck.)
The con ideas are proven, stay the course, trickle down, perpetual war, corporations uber alles failures which explains why they are getting absolutely crushed three out of every four elections now. And from what I can tell, that trend seems to be for the foreseeable future.
They have become so delusional and perverse that they love saying that Americans, especially black Americans, are stupid and lazy mooches and that American women are sluts and prostitutes. (And Rush wants the videos.)
Unless and until they can shake off their insane Bush/Cheney and fascist demons – and I see absolutely NO willingness to do so at all – they will continue to get clobbered like they did last November.
Crank up the popcorn maker and enjoy the show! I am.
Erwin's cat
February 20th, 2013
3:13 pm
If so she could be. If not she won’t even look at you.
As head cashier at trader joes, I’m sure she’ll see my potenial
Erwin's cat
February 20th, 2013
3:14 pm
that’s “potential”
St Simons - he-ne-ha
February 20th, 2013
3:16 pm
oh hell no fred. I can’t watch stuff like that. i got 3 of em
hell, i have to talk myself outta blowing the causeway once/yr
Logical Dude
February 20th, 2013
3:16 pm
Peadawg: “Medicare for all. Subsidies for those that couldn’t afford it.” And just how in the world do you plan to pay for that?
Cuts do defense? I dunno, if Medicare’s solution is to raise the retirement age, I don’t see how the country can afford to include everyone in Medicare. Alas, hopefully someone can, because it’s looking like a better overall solution for the country.
Redcoat
February 20th, 2013
3:17 pm
Didn’t Obama sign that bill with the “sequester”?…..His “suggestion” too, and he says it’s a terrible idea……Shouldn’t he be saying.. we… had a bad idea?
TaxPayer
February 20th, 2013
3:19 pm
Faith-based science like the earth is some 6000 years old or similar such nonsense or like women can just shut down their ability to become pregnant if they’re being raped or like a Republican’s ability to pretend that the earth is not really getting warmer because that would create difficulties in their continued funding for stuff like proof that fracking could never ever introduce harmful chemicals into a water table. Stuff like that, Erwin. Anyway, tell me Erwin. Do you believe that the global temperature measurements demonstrate that the earth is getting warmer relative to a hundred or two hundred years ago? Do you believe the physics used to demonstrate that atmospheric CO2 actually reflects heat back to earth where it is subsequently absorbed and that this heat would otherwise escape into space barring the presence of any other atmospheric gases that would serve the same purpose? Come on, Erwin. Show me some of that engineering prowess. Make my day.
Fred ™
February 20th, 2013
3:21 pm
St. Simon’s: Little girls are God’s punishment to folks like us who were shall we say, cavalier lads in our youth……….
deegee
February 20th, 2013
3:22 pm
I would much prefer a single payer system and let the private insurance companies compete for premium coverage, much like the way in which Medicare operates now. I have private insurance and am waiting 3 months for a hip replacement. It’s not like my standard of living is going to suffer if I have to wait for a procedure. I think that insurance companies provide a valuable service, but they shouldn’t dictate the country’s health care policy.
Brosephus™
February 20th, 2013
3:26 pm
Fred
I was told that God chooses those who can raise a girl to become a woman. It’s probably due to our youthful indiscretions, to back your point.
bman.
February 20th, 2013
3:26 pm
This Meebo thing won’t seem to go away and stay away. Mister Bookman, please ask the AJC Execs why they hate their readers
Erwin's cat
February 20th, 2013
3:28 pm
Do you believe that the global temperature measurements demonstrate that the earth is getting warmer relative to a hundred or two hundred years ago?
I don’t believe the measurements are accurate enough to determine a proper amount of certainty
Do you believe the physics used to demonstrate that atmospheric CO2 actually reflects heat back to earth where it is subsequently absorbed and that this heat would otherwise escape into space barring the presence of any other atmospheric gases that would serve the same purpose?
Is that a run-on question?….Do you believe in the 1st law of thermodynamics?…how about the second?
That Black Guy
February 20th, 2013
3:28 pm
indigo
February 20th, 2013
12:45 pm
Anytime you think what I post is “make up crap” then, take you best shot and try to refute it.
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indigo
February 20th, 2013
12:30 pm
So, the Governor decides to ignore the people and, instead, help Big Insurance keep the premiums high. – ACA was the bigest boom for the insurance companies. Who do you think lobbied and helped WRITE the bill?
Why would they do this, you ask? Because they just don’t want to vote for that Socialist, Marxist anti-American Democratic Party. – Maybe they don’t want to associate with people who insult them instead of ask what they think.
Why would they believe that, you ask? Because Rush, The NRA and their political idols have told them so. – Did you ask the people who voted for Deal if those you list told them to? What about the people who voted for Deal who DON’T listen to Rush, DON’T belong to the NRA, and DON’T have idols (naving earthly idols is against some peoples religion).
Looks like you just “made some crap up”.
Redcoat
February 20th, 2013
3:30 pm
TaxPayer….Doesn’t the sun go through cycles?…….Hasn’t the planet warmed before without man…….You think man can cool the planet?……funny
St Simons - he-ne-ha
February 20th, 2013
3:30 pm
is that what it is? well, he must be punishing the crap out of me.
Fred ™
February 20th, 2013
3:39 pm
Well my Brother St Simons, they say God only gives you as much as you can handle. Don’t you wish he didn’t have so much faith in you?
Here is one to take you home is you have time. I have the surround sound on the computer so high that the curser is bouncing all over the screen lol. If you can crank it up and enjoy. Just remember:
In a place you only dream of, where your soul is always free
Silver stages, golden curtains, filled my head plain as could be
As a rainbow grew around the sun, all my stars above, who died
Came from somewhere beyond the scene you see
These lovely people played just for me
Now if I let you see this place where stories all ring true
Will you let me past your face to see what’s really you
It’s not for me I ask this question as though I were a king
For you have to love, believe and feel
Before the burst of tambourines take you there
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R82OM5tzcrk&list=PL6238A23AE00C8EF7&index=19
Erwin's cat
February 20th, 2013
3:40 pm
“yeah, you know me…you down with entropy?”
Stephen “Yo Double D” Hawking
Erwin's cat
February 20th, 2013
3:43 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5bueZoYhUlg
I mean “MC Hawking”
JamVet
February 20th, 2013
3:44 pm
As cosmologist Stephen Hawking celebrates his 70th birthday he warns that climate change is one of a greatest threats posed to the future of human-kind and the world.
Call me crazy, but for some really odd reason I’m more inclined to believe him than say…………………. Rush Limbaugh.
Erwin's cat
February 20th, 2013
3:47 pm
Jam – Steph and I don’t always agree…It really drives him nuts too
Redcoat
February 20th, 2013
3:53 pm
Mr. Vet……..it may be the greatest threat…..but man didn’t cause it, and since it has happened before, man can’t stop it either…..we are being scammed to give money to people who can do absolutely nothing to stop the planet from warming or to get it to cool……save your money…..survival in a changing world……
JamVet
February 20th, 2013
3:56 pm
cat, the MC vid was funny…
JamVet
February 20th, 2013
4:03 pm
Red, whatever floats your leaky boat.
Again, I’ll go with what the most the brilliant men on the planet, a countless number of experts in the science of climatology along with their prestigious institutions of unparalleled scientific discovery have to say on the matter, as opposed to Republican bloggers and Rush Limbaugh.
But hey, if you think he is the guy to follow, be my ghost…
Erwin's cat
February 20th, 2013
4:17 pm
But hey, if you think he is the guy to follow, be my ghost…
I’ll be your Casper
Redcoat
February 20th, 2013
4:52 pm
Mr Vet……….I believe some in your world said we would be doomed if action wasn’t immediately taken……that was a decade ago……..they got some money and they are asking for more…….action they took?……a joke and a scam……your computer is causing global warming…right?……
TaxPayer
February 20th, 2013
4:58 pm
So apparently Erwin does not even trust the former denier’s assessment, the one funded by the Koch crooks, of the temperature data. Not too many people are still willing to claim that they do not believe the earth is warming. Interesting. As for the run-on sentence, I see where your focus is, Erwin. Or should I say lack of focus. The question I posed dealt with the ability of CO2 to allow radiation from the sun to pass through to warm the planet while also reflecting the longer wavelength radiation, emitted by the warmed earth, back to the earth. It’s a feedback mechanism and I asked if you understood how it worked. Do you, Erwin?
hamiltonAZ
February 20th, 2013
7:41 pm
There is no type of sane economic analysis that doesn’t conclude the Governor’s decision is absolutely horrible for the people of Georgia.
How many time will a man turn his head, pretending he just doesn’t see?
Vast Right Wing Conspiracy (aka "Knuckle-Dragger")
February 20th, 2013
8:30 pm
Gov. Deal will be considered “prescient”, “wise” and “far-sighted” in the near future as those that are as far away from emperornerocare as possible will be much better off.
1 Samuel 8:14 – 18 (excellent description of president food stamps)
Hey Libs, how is your paychecks looking now
February 20th, 2013
10:40 pm
Hey Libs,
Did you hear what Universal down in Orlando took away from the “part-time” workers? Health Insurance because of pending Obamacare!
Love it! Reality is setting in!!!!!
Bernie
February 20th, 2013
10:46 pm
Today Florida is the latest Republican led state to reverse its participation in the current Medicaid expansion program. Tt seems that the chickens are finally coming home to ROOST!
Gov. Deal will reverse his decision as well very soon. The State of Georgia is $350 million dollars in the RED in Medicaid funds. The Math in the financing will DEMAND that he does so!
hamiltonAZ
February 21st, 2013
1:31 am
So what is the ripple effect? Georgia comes ou of pocket 4.5 billion over 9 years while the state at the same time receives a little more than 40 billion infusion of money to create jobs, provide Christian samaritanism to the needy, and get back probably more than 4.5 billion in taxes and fees. (hospital bed tax? People with insurance will pay that, you know.)
Rabbit
February 21st, 2013
2:50 am
NYTimes columnist Thomas Friedman writes on the coming sequester struggle: “If I am right and enough Republicans meet Obama on a Grand Bargain, it would both split the G.O.P. between the sane conservatives and the certifiable crazies and give the president a real foundation for a truly significant second term.”
We must ask ourselves, on which side of the GOP split will Georgia’s leaders fall?
Bill Fanning
February 21st, 2013
3:07 pm
It is sad to see the nation rapidly heading for the bottom in math skils, but the column on denying 600,000 Georgians Health Insurance is certainly a vote for an even lower standing
Just where does Jay think the 40 billion in federal money will come from?
Will it be left by the Easter Bunny?
Will it given to Georgia from the personal funds of members of Congress?
I don’t think so, my own guess would be the taxpayers would “invest” the 40 billion.
We also have a documented state practice of being a donor state (the taxpayers send more to Washington than we get back in program funds, thus the odds are we would pay more than 40 billion in taxes to get 40 billion back
We could of course borroow this money, but then we would have to add interest to the bill. What a wonderful gift to bestow on our children and grandchildren. Let’s put them further behind so they will never have a chance to get out of debt!!!
The math skills of this opinion are on a par with a pile of rocks, with a slight lead by the pile of rocks.
Jobs? When you take as much out in taxes as you get in benfits, no net new jobs will be the result. Maybe some jobs in medical fields will happen, but at the cost of jobs in other sectors
Whoever roduced the original study should go back to math class, probably the elemetary level. Jay should spend a little time in checking the blatently obvious before writing a column using really bad and ill informed data.
Rabbit
February 21st, 2013
6:40 pm
“Just where does Jay think the 40 billion in federal money will come from?”
You’re right, Bill. It’ll probably come from taxes. Taxes that will be redirected from inefficient payment for uninsured health care in emergency rooms at 10 times the cost of primary care for the insured. It’ll probably come from taxes that won’t have to pay for health care that is mismanaged by the hodge-podge system we currently have.
It’ll come from taxes on wage earners who are able to access preventive care and work more days. Georgia’s governor will come around. Except for poor, clueless Rick Perry, all the holdout governors will probably come around because they know that “they are giving away billions of dollars, hurting their own low-income residents, and forcing taxpayers to subsidize Medicaid programs in other states but not their own.”