Sequester will test GOP’s cut/cut/cut strategy
Unless Congress comes to an unlikely and very quick agreement, most domestic federal spending must by law be slashed by an immediate 8.2 percent on March 1, with only Social Security, Medicaid and veterans’ benefits exempted.
According to estimated from the Office of Management and Budget, defense spending will have to be cut by 9.4 to 10 percent, depending on the category. Payments to Medicare providers — doctors, hospitals, etc. — will be cut by 2 percent.
And because the law dictates that the cuts be across-the-board, rather than targeted, the impact is some areas could be severe. Agency directors have very little if any leeway in trying to protect particular programs.
James Clapper, director of National Intelligence, has warned that “the sheer size of the cut will create an immediate national security crisis situation” in the CIA, FBI and other agencies. Border Patrol agents will be laid off, as will federal prosecutors and airline security officers. (If you’re flying, you might want to double the time needed to get through security.)
On the social-spending side, to cite just a few specific examples, some 10,000 Americans will be cut off from the AIDS drugs that keep them alive; 70,000 children will be pushed off Head Start; 373,000 seriously mentally ill people will no longer have a means of treatment. The list goes on and on.
The overall economy will likely suffer as well. According to the Congressional Budget Office, that reduced federal spending will dampen growth and cut job creation by some 750,000 through the end of the year.
Unfortunately, there appears to be little to no hope in Washington that such cuts can be avoided, at least at first. Our leaders have come to the conclusion that no matter how much pain these reductions cause the American people, the political pain they themselves would suffer by having to compromise would be greater still. So instead of acting, they are preparing to blame each other when the outcries come.
The Republicans are basing their PR strategy on the claim that the sequester was actually President Obama’s idea, and they are correct: The Obama White House did propose the idea of a sequester back in 2011, believing that if the required budget cuts were painful enough, both sides would be compelled to compromise in order to avoid them.
However, the sequester — or “Obamaquester”, in the GOP’s strained terminology — was made necessary in the first place because House Republicans had made it quite clear that without a mandatory mechanism to slash spending, they would refuse to raise the nation’s debt ceiling, potentially sending the country into a disastrous default. That was back before the election, when House Republicans were so full of themselves that they seemed fully capable of doing just that.
(Just to refresh your memory — these artificial fiscal crises do tend to blur into one another by now — this particular confrontation in 2011 is the one that convinced Standard & Poors to lower the nation’s bond rating.)
In other words, the record shows that Republicans forced the crisis, and now want to blame Obama for proposing an escape hatch. I don’t believe the tactic is going to work, in large part because once again, the GOP has put itself into a position of trying to sell a hard argument. In this case, after stomping their feet, holding their breath and generally making public fools of themselves demanding harsh spending cuts, they are going to try to put the blame for spending cuts on Obama?
Good luck with that.
Paul Ryan, chairman of the House Budget Committee and the GOP’s spending guru, is on record back in 2011 as lauding the sequester, and his fellow House Republicans voted 174-66 in favor of it. (House Democrats split right down the middle, with 95 supporting it and 95 voting against it). In addition, Ryan has promised House conservatives that he will soon produce a budget that will balance the budget within 10 years, and do it without new taxes. The magnitude of spending cuts required to make that happen will dwarf those being implemented under the sequester.
The sequester, in other words, can be seen as a mini test drive for the GOP’s overall fiscal policy. What happens to government services when we implement just a fraction of the massive spending cuts that the GOP is demanding? What happens to the economy when federal spending falls by a relatively minor $85 billion between March and the end of the fiscal year in October?
By already trying to put the blame on Obama, the GOP is in effect predicting that the results won’t be pretty.
– Jay Bookman
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Christian Conservative
February 19th, 2013
9:25 am
Since it was obama’s idea the ball is in his court….
Joe Hussein Mama
February 19th, 2013
9:25 am
It seems that the GOP argument, distilled down to its essence, is that the two-sided Obamaquester spending cuts somehow threaten the ability of the GOP to get the one-sided spending cuts they want.
As you said, Jay, good luck with that, GOP.
USinUK - former Girl Scout
February 19th, 2013
9:29 am
aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaand CC illustrates Jay’s point.
well, done CC … go get a cookie
ATL Tiger
February 19th, 2013
9:29 am
When is the Senate going to discuss this and propose anything? The House pushed this to the Senate to act first since they really haven’t done anything in forever.
Meanwhile, our supreme leader took some time to play golf with a couple of billionaires in FL. Life must be good!
King of Planet Kolob
February 19th, 2013
9:29 am
Cut, cut, cut is just a way to tank the economy to see if that will bring them back to power. I never believe any Republican who voted along party lines for all of GW Bush spending really cares about the deficit. The same way I never listen to any Republican who is a beneficiary of student loans or Medicare or Social Security profess how we need to cut those programs, or how someone who inherited wealth tell me about working hard!
Christian Conservative
February 19th, 2013
9:29 am
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2013/02/17/bob_woodward_sequester_was_obamas_idea.html
Thomas Heyward Jr
February 19th, 2013
9:30 am
“On the social-spending side, to cite just a few specific examples, some 10,000 Americans will be cut off from the AIDS drugs that keep them alive; 70,000 children will be pushed off Head Start; 373,000 seriously mentally ill people will no longer have a means of treatment. The list goes on and on.”
.
Says another mis-guided soul who confuses a peaceful, loving society with a violent, coercive Federal government.
ATL Tiger
February 19th, 2013
9:31 am
I’m actually hoping for this to go through the more I think about it, coupled with the SS tax increase, most people will be directly impacted and realize that we have serious issues and everything is not all hunky dory.
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
February 19th, 2013
9:32 am
this particular confrontation in 2011 is the one that convinced Standard & Poors to lower the nation’s bond rating.
For the record, S&P can eff off and die.
http://www.mcclatchydc.com/2009/10/18/77244/how-moodys-sold-its-ratings-and.html
Yeah, the article specifically names Moody’s, but S&P was in on it too.
Peadawg
February 19th, 2013
9:32 am
“be across-the-board”
Which is what it should be. Stop picking-and-choosing your pet agencies and programs. The simple fact is that we can’t keep spending the way we are. Obama got his tax increase. Now let’s see him follow through on the cuts.
USinUK - former Girl Scout
February 19th, 2013
9:32 am
CC – since your reading skillz seem to be selective:
However, the sequester — or “Obamaquester”, in the GOP’s strained terminology — was made necessary in the first place because House Republicans had made it quite clear that without a mandatory mechanism to slash spending, they would refuse to raise the nation’s debt ceiling, potentially sending the country into a disastrous default.
USinUK - former Girl Scout
February 19th, 2013
9:33 am
Kam – 9:32 – well, there is that.
Jay
February 19th, 2013
9:33 am
ATL Tiger, Senate Dems have proposed to avoid the $85 billion in cuts with $55 billion in more targeted cuts, matched with $55 billion in tax increases, for a total fiscal impact of $110 billion.
The House GOP refuses to consider anything with taxes, and Senate GOP will probably filibuster the Dem plan anyway.
F. Sinkwich
February 19th, 2013
9:33 am
So what’s O’bozo’s solution to all this?
Tax increases?
St Simons - he-ne-ha
February 19th, 2013
9:34 am
if they touch the SS or Medicare age, there will be riots.
however, the top speed of a hoveround is only about 3mph
Maximum
February 19th, 2013
9:34 am
Republicans love the deficit (see Cheney) but don’t want to pay their bills. They are deadbeat politicians who should have their elections repossessed.
Itchy Finger
February 19th, 2013
9:34 am
The House has passed a bill to avoid the sequester. What’s obama and the Senate dems waiting on?
http://www.gop.gov/bill/112/2/hr6684
Keep Up the Good Fight!
February 19th, 2013
9:35 am
And we have the golf claims early in the thread.
I am sure that Boehner can explain how the President remains in contact because of things know as phones, emails, staff.
But the blame Obama for the failures of the GOP dance continues.
Peadawg
February 19th, 2013
9:35 am
“The House GOP refuses to consider anything with taxes”
To be fair, Obama and the Democrats got their tax increase back in December/January.
godless heathen - owner of many things he does not need
February 19th, 2013
9:36 am
I wish they would let the heathen wield the hatchet. I could cut 10% before lunch.
Li'l Aynie
February 19th, 2013
9:36 am
Just goes to show that the Republican Party is defined, totally and exclusively, by President Obama. Whatever Obama favors, Republicans oppose. Whatever Obama does, Republicans “investigate”. Whatever Obama accomplishes, Republicans disparage.
Hatred of Obama determines Republican policy, and holds together an improbable alliance of the greedy rich and the excitable rabble.
Whatever will become of the Republican Party when Obama finishes his term of office, when Obama no longer sets the Republican agenda and calls the shots? Any suggestions?
F. Sinkwich
February 19th, 2013
9:36 am
No way will Republicans trade spending cuts for tax increases. No way.
Corbin Sharpe. I think, therefore I am...I think.
February 19th, 2013
9:37 am
Real Clear Politics!!??
Granny Godzilla
February 19th, 2013
9:37 am
CC
read it and saw the interview as well…..
Did ya miss the part where Woodward smacks Rove with “the gop ’s fingerprints are all over this?”
Redneck Convert (R--and proud of it)
February 19th, 2013
9:37 am
Well, things is looking up! These cuts don’t have nothing to do with the way I live. I don’t fly, so they can lay off all the air marshals, far as I’m concerned. I don’t cross the border, so I don’t care how many border patrol agents they put in the sh*t-can. I don’t work for the federal guvmint, so it don’t matter to me how many of the lazy guvmint bums they furlough. Matter of fact, maybe the IRS won’t have enough people to steal money from my paycheck. I ain’t a Dr., so they won’t be cutting my pay none.
Looks like the perfect budget cut to me. And a message to all the people out there that will be getting laid off: drink beer. It’s good for your digestion and it’ll help you dull the pain. Besides, it’s good for my job and good for my 401k.
Have a good Tuesday everybody. Like I said before, things is looking up!
Joe Hussein Mama
February 19th, 2013
9:38 am
I. Finger — “The House has passed a bill to avoid the sequester. What’s obama and the Senate dems waiting on?”
Clearly, you’re not getting the idea that the cuts and tax increases need to satisfy *both* sides in this discussion, not just one.
A cut-happy alternative is exactly what the GOP’s been proposing all along, and that’s why we’re still stuck where we are.
Aquagirl
February 19th, 2013
9:38 am
No way will Republicans trade spending cuts for tax increases. No way.
And that’s why the current shrieking Tea Potty madness is destined for the toilet bowl of history.
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
February 19th, 2013
9:38 am
Meanwhile, our supreme leader took some time to play golf with a couple of billionaires in FL. Life must be good!
George Bush says, “
What?Now, watch this drive.“St Simons - he-ne-ha
February 19th, 2013
9:39 am
for all it has ‘done,’ the Republican pahhty will be remembered as
the party that died abusing the filibuster.
Corbin Sharpe. I think, therefore I am...I think.
February 19th, 2013
9:40 am
St Simons – he-ne-ha
February 19th, 2013
9:34 am
I’m getting my knee replaced this April, just so I can kick a little GOP ass, if I have to…
TaxPayer
February 19th, 2013
9:40 am
The Republicans can sell their constituency on anything. They are the stupid party after all.
Granny Godzilla
February 19th, 2013
9:40 am
The Republican controlled House is currently in recess……
Anybody surprised?
Steve
February 19th, 2013
9:41 am
So, how is austerity working in Europe, folks?
Thomas Heyward Jr
February 19th, 2013
9:41 am
And no……………..Georgia Representatives to the Federal congress DID NOT beg for FEMA funds for the latest squall that hit North Georgia.
.
Much to Bookman’s chagrin.
ATL Tiger
February 19th, 2013
9:41 am
“ATL Tiger, Senate Dems have proposed to avoid the $85 billion in cuts with $55 billion in more targeted cuts, matched with $55 billion in tax increases, for a total fiscal impact of $110 billion.
The House GOP refuses to consider anything with taxes, and Senate GOP will probably filibuster the Dem plan anyway.”
Jay,
Well thats great and all, but you forgot to mention that the Sen. Dems are also just kicking the can down the road to the end of the year when we can go through this dog and pony show once again. They aren’t serious about sequestion, they’re just preparing to point the finger again.
http://articles.washingtonpost.com/2013-02-14/business/37095105_1_tax-hikes-senate-democrats-cuts
j
February 19th, 2013
9:42 am
May I make a suggestion? I may? Thank you. I would like all the employees at the AJC take one day a week off to help the impoverished, the children in need, schools in need and a plethora of other issues that will no longer be paid for if the automatic cuts in spending go into effect.
Ask not what this great country can do for you, ask what you can do for the country.
USinUK - former Girl Scout
February 19th, 2013
9:42 am
Kam – 9:38 – golf … the new teleprompter
SBinF
February 19th, 2013
9:42 am
“Just goes to show that the Republican Party is defined, totally and exclusively, by President Obama. Whatever Obama favors, Republicans oppose. Whatever Obama does, Republicans “investigate”. Whatever Obama accomplishes, Republicans disparage.
Hatred of Obama determines Republican policy, and holds together an improbable alliance of the greedy rich and the excitable rabble.
Whatever will become of the Republican Party when Obama finishes his term of office, when Obama no longer sets the Republican agenda and calls the shots? Any suggestions?”
Freaking brilliant. And true. And yet, some people look to Obama and wonder why he isn’t doing more to work with the GOP.
комиссар (Occupation)
February 19th, 2013
9:43 am
“On the social-spending side, to cite just a few specific examples, some 10,000 Americans will be cut off from the AIDS drugs that keep them alive; 70,000 children will be pushed off Head Start; 373,000 seriously mentally ill people will no longer have a means of treatment”
We’re becoming Greece.
Jay
February 19th, 2013
9:44 am
Did you take the time to see what that bill did, Itchy:
Cuts food stamps, cuts heating aid for the poor, cuts job training, cuts nutrition assistance, abolishes health-insurance exchanges, cuts public health, cuts health insurance for poor people ….
I understand that each and every one of those cuts will thrill you to death. For the rest of us, however, it doesn’t exactly spread the pain around, now does it? Instead, it concentrates that pain on those already most helpless. You know, family values and all that….
Christian Conservative
February 19th, 2013
9:44 am
USinUK – former Girl Scout
CC –
However, the sequester — or “Obamaquester”, in the GOP’s strained terminology — was made necessary in the first place because House Republicans had made it quite clear that without a mandatory mechanism to slash spending, they would refuse to raise the nation’s debt ceiling, potentially sending the country into a disastrous default.
since your logic skillz seem to be sorely lacking:
Again the GOP gets blamed for obama’s failure… LOL… The sequester was his idea and I’m glad you admit that so it lies squarely on his shoulders…
ATL Tiger
February 19th, 2013
9:45 am
“Meanwhile, our supreme leader took some time to play golf with a couple of billionaires in FL. Life must be good!
George Bush says, “What? Now, watch this drive.”
And the Press Corps (who was kept out of his golf outing) first ask Obama when he gets back “Did you beat Tiger?”
The ‘Watchdogs’ have definitely turned into ‘lapdogs’
http://washingtonexaminer.com/reporters-to-obama-did-you-beat-tiger/article/2521890
Get Real
February 19th, 2013
9:45 am
As opposed to the democrats Spend Spend Spend strategy…
I forgot, we don’t have a spending problem….rrrrrrright
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
February 19th, 2013
9:45 am
Kam – 9:38 – golf … the new teleprompter
It’s like Frank’s Hot Sauce — they put that sh*t on everything.
Saw your recipe this a.m. Too bad you didn’t use pancetta, as I just pick up a lb. from DeKalb Farmer’s Mkt.
Itchy Finger
February 19th, 2013
9:45 am
obama spends the weekend with his boyfriend and El Tigrow….. How sweet…..
http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/obama-talks-record-press-flight-home_701429.html
F. Sinkwich
February 19th, 2013
9:46 am
“Clearly, you’re not getting the idea that the cuts and tax increases need to satisfy *both* sides in this discussion, not just one.”
Hey genius, it was pointed out earlier that O’bozo already got his tax increases this year.
curious
February 19th, 2013
9:46 am
The majority of Republicans voted for it, so they own it.
Anyway, it may be what the Doctor ordered.
tm
February 19th, 2013
9:46 am
All these dire claims about the impact. I have yet to hear how it impacts the ones who passed and signed the law. I guess they don’t have to cut their budgets.
Uh Huh.......The GOP are like angels dancing on the head of a pin
February 19th, 2013
9:47 am
The GOP are always wasting time debating things which have very little practical value.
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
February 19th, 2013
9:47 am
The ‘Watchdogs’ have definitely turned into ‘lapdogs’
The smoking gun is the mushroom cloud.
We will be greeted as liberators.
Joe Hussein Mama
February 19th, 2013
9:47 am
ATL Tiger — “Well thats great and all, but you forgot to mention that the Sen. Dems are also just kicking the can down the road to the end of the year when we can go through this dog and pony show once again. They aren’t serious about sequestion, they’re just preparing to point the finger again.”
Really?
‘Cause, with the caps on malpractice claims that are in the GOP ‘compromise’ legislation, I was getting the impression that it was the Republicans who weren’t serious.
You know, since they’ve been trying without successto get malpractice award caps written into Federal law for over 10 years now, I’d think they would realize that writing them into a *budget* bill would be a sure way to PREVENT that bill from being taken up by the other house or signed by the President.
Besides, what do caps on malpractice awards have to do with the Federal budget, anyway?
USinUK - former Girl Scout
February 19th, 2013
9:47 am
“So, how is austerity working in Europe, folks?”
if you like a recession, it’s FAAAAAAABULOUS
Itchy Finger
February 19th, 2013
9:47 am
Jay:
Yes I did Jay. And everyone needs to sacrifice… Ain’t that what your dear leader said… Seems to me the takers in society haven’t sacrificed one thing while the working middle class continues to suffer…..
Steve
February 19th, 2013
9:47 am
Americans are not going to blame Obama for this, let’s be clear. The GOP controlled House is going to be blamed. When we start slowing job growth, due to this, Americans are going to blame the GOP. Americans aren’t as stupid as some of the Confederates in here.
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9:47 am
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Joe Hussein Mama
February 19th, 2013
9:48 am
Sinkiewicz — “Hey genius, it was pointed out earlier that O’bozo already got his tax increases this year.”
Hey, Fishy, answer the question in my 9:47. And then siddown and shaddup.
Itchy Finger
February 19th, 2013
9:48 am
curious:
So did the Senate dems…..
USinUK - former Girl Scout
February 19th, 2013
9:49 am
Kam – 9:45 – love pancetta … but I love my mister more
barking frog
February 19th, 2013
9:49 am
The Republicans evidently do not realize that by calling
for the elimination of sequestration, the President has
preempted his ownership of the program and dumped
it into their laps.
Granny Godzilla
February 19th, 2013
9:49 am
CC
Yes, the sequester was President Obama’s idea.
and the Republicans FELL hook, line and sinker for it.
This will not go well for the GOP.
Steve
February 19th, 2013
9:49 am
I would bet my house that when the economy slows, due to this, Confederates and conservatives will forget about the sequester cuts that the Democrats do not want (and the Republicans do want), and then start whining about how Obama’s policies are hurting the economy. I guarantee it. However, most Americans won’t buy it. Game over, GOP. The Dems take back the house in 2014.
TiredOfIt
February 19th, 2013
9:49 am
Republican’s are great at playing the blame game, but as I recall, they voted for this too.
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
February 19th, 2013
9:49 am
Seems to me the takers in society haven’t sacrificed one thing…
Haliburton says, “What?”
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Common Sense is Uncommon
February 19th, 2013
9:50 am
Across the board cuts is exactly what is needed. Don’t tell me the government can’t get along with less money, a lot less money. We could save a fortune by making Obama and Michelle pay for their own vacations.
Itchy Finger
February 19th, 2013
9:51 am
Gas prices rise for 33 straight days… Great job obama making more people poor… Ain’t that the goal???
USinUK - former Girl Scout
February 19th, 2013
9:51 am
“Seems to me the takers in society haven’t sacrificed one thing…”
the zombie lie
Itchy Finger
February 19th, 2013
9:51 am
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
Seems to me the takers in society haven’t sacrificed one thing…
obama voters says, “What?”
Soothsayer
February 19th, 2013
9:52 am
What’s wrong with this picture?
комиссар (Occupation)
February 19th, 2013
9:52 am
Great analysis, Jay Bookman.
Just one wrinkle you left out — and it’s a crucial one.
It’s not just the GOP that are happy to have the “blame” put on Obama for hurling us off the austerity cliff. It’s Obama himself who thrives on it, too.
Do you really think that Obama does not want to ultimately implement drastic cuts, too? He talks about it constantly, forever chiding his liberal base with the reminder of the need to accept ‘responsible’ cuts to social programs. His replacement for Wall St. yes-man Tim Geithner is a DLC, Robert Rubin clone whose every third word is about cuts, cuts, cuts.
Amazing the gullibility of liberal analysts who persist in buying this narrative of the Obama with his hand forced, when it’s perfectly clear that Obama is party to the general thrust of what’s being done just as much, only with minor tactical differences here and there.
sanjay lal
February 19th, 2013
9:53 am
So Thomas, do we have you on the record as saying our peaceful, loving society will take care of all of those currently receiving this kind of government help once the sequester happens? Don’t repubs want us to think that those receiving such help really should just take personal responsibility and it is their own fault they are in the situation they are in?
Steve
February 19th, 2013
9:53 am
Itchy – which takers? Corporate welfare recipients? CEOs of failed companies that receive bailouts yet the CEO’s walk away with millions? Companies that don’t even pay taxes?
Those takers?
USinUK - former Girl Scout
February 19th, 2013
9:53 am
“Gas prices rise for 33 straight days… Great job obama making more people poor”
never ceases to amaze me how those on the right have eff-all clue on how the market works.
TaxPayer
February 19th, 2013
9:53 am
Itchy is whining about the impact of higher gas prices so that one must be hitting him. Good.
alex
February 19th, 2013
9:54 am
the Gop will pass a temporary budget, but in doing so will repeatedly kep the public aware of the spending problems in Washington, this willbe used to make the deficeit a GOP driven issue in the next congressional elections and will benefit GOP candidates. The GOP will not keep the govt. hostage but will keep the economics on the front burner, the dems do not want that…..Smart move, if they do it.Uh HUH–there’s your practical value, it’s called politics and the sausage is delicious!
curious
February 19th, 2013
9:54 am
Itchy Finger
“Gas prices rise for 33 straight days… Great job obama making more people poor… Ain’t that the goal???”
I thought the goal was to make oil companies more money, so they could survive without tax breaks and sibsidies.
USinUK - former Girl Scout
February 19th, 2013
9:54 am
“obama voters says, “What?””
if you’re going to steal someone else’s gig, at least be grammatically correct, ya numpty.
Peadawg
February 19th, 2013
9:54 am
Itchy Finger
February 19th, 2013
9:51 am
Bless your heart.
Steve
February 19th, 2013
9:55 am
Soothsayer – your data clearly displays the “starving the government” tactic that got us into this mess (along with rampant spending).
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
February 19th, 2013
9:56 am
USinUK
Can I assume that I brown the pancetta, remove with slotted spoon and then saute veggies in remaining oil adding pancetta later?
I just recently started cooking with pancetta. Got two recipes from Cook’s Illustrated that require it: Farfalle with pancetta, mushrooms and sage, and a Chicken Canzanese
barking frog
February 19th, 2013
9:56 am
The President can have an effect on gas prices ascending
but not on gas prices descending. How tricky is that ?
Christian Conservative
February 19th, 2013
9:56 am
Granny Godzilla:
Nothing goes well for the GOP because of the Obama loving lapdog media. I hope they hold out and shut down the gov by not raising the debt ceiling too. They can’t win either way so doing what is best for the country to curtail the enormous waste by Obama and the Dems is what they must do….
Recon 0311 2533
February 19th, 2013
9:56 am
No mention of course that Obama has failed to lead once again and has not put forth any plan of his own. The House sent a bill to the Senate but as usual Reid won’t bring it up for a vote and the hastily crafted bill by the Senate Democrats didn’t get a vote because they were too anxious to get out of town on their break. Meanwhile there will be more theatrics from this president when he gives a speech today warning of dire consequences and blaming Republicans with first responders as his backdrop. Also Erskine Boles and Alan Simpson unveiled a proposal this morning to avoid sequestration but appears according to Simpson to include entitlement reform. Simpson said that Obama will have a failed presidency if he refuses an entitlement reform component. The proposal is similar to the one crafted by the Erskine Boles commission and rejected by Obama. This action may put Obama between a Barack and a hard place.
TaxPayer
February 19th, 2013
9:56 am
I see that more of the takers (hedge fund managers, et al) are starting to shuffle more money to the Caymans and back via bogus reinsurance companies in order to avoid takes.
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Bhorsoft
February 19th, 2013
9:56 am
Redneck, Can’t cut the IRS – I haven’t gotten my refund yet. Without that refund, I can’t buy more beer!
Steve
February 19th, 2013
9:56 am
As soon as someone blames gas prices on Obama you immediately know that they probably never made it past sophomore year in a rural high school.
Itchy Finger
February 19th, 2013
9:57 am
barking frog
The President can have an effect on gas prices ascending
but not on gas prices descending. How tricky is that ?
Liberal logic….
ATL Tiger
February 19th, 2013
9:57 am
CBO estimated that the Fiscal Cliff Deal would raise tax revenue by $620 billion and cut spending by $15 billion or a 41:1 ratio of tax increases to spending cuts
USinUK - former Girl Scout
February 19th, 2013
9:57 am
from NBC:
(AAA spokesman Nancy) White and other experts blamed a series of factors for the uptick that started in mid-January:
– Some refineries are switching over from winter to summer fuel, which is more expensive to produce.
– A Hess refinery in New Jersey that supplies 7.5 percent of the Northeast’s gas is closing.
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– Midwinter maintenance has led some refineries to go offline temporarily.
– Demand for gas is up, fueled in part by the return of more people to working.
http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/02/18/17005861-gas-prices-at-four-month-high-after-32-days-of-hikes-at-the-pump?lite
I guess they forgot to include the Omnipotent and Omniscient Obama …
F. Sinkwich
February 19th, 2013
9:58 am
“Hey, Fishy, answer the question in my 9:47. And then siddown and shaddup.”
About malpractice?
What the eff does that have to do with anything?
Steve
February 19th, 2013
9:58 am
Gas prices increase when the economy turns around. DAMN YOU OBAMA!
Joe Hussein Mama
February 19th, 2013
9:58 am
Recon — “The House sent a bill to the Senate but as usual Reid won’t bring it up for a vote”
Dogspit doesn’t deserve a vote.
Once again, as I asked at 9:47, what do caps on malpractice awards have to do with the Federal budget, anyway?
Moderate Line
February 19th, 2013
9:58 am
The sequester, in other words, can be seen as a mini test drive for the GOP’s overall fiscal policy. What happens to government services when we implement just a fraction of the massive spending cuts that the GOP is demanding? What happens to the economy when federal spending falls by a relatively minor $85 billion between March and the end of the fiscal year in October?
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My prediction is the Republicans will take on the chin.
USinUK - former Girl Scout
February 19th, 2013
9:58 am
Kam – 9:56 – yep – I would use a little olive oil to help the pancetta render its fat … and I would include the red pepper flakes at the same time
комиссар (Occupation)
February 19th, 2013
9:59 am
Obama in the State of the Union:
“Over the last few years, both parties have worked together to reduce the deficit by more than $2.5 trillion. As a result we are more than halfway toward the goal of $4 trillion in deficit reduction that economists say we need to stabilize our finances”
Now why would someone trumpet this right wing talking point as “progress” if they were backed into a corner with a gun held to their head?
No, Obama, being the right-wing president he is, is perfectly on board with austerity, just with a few minor differences from the Republicans.
Shouldn’t you point this commonality out to your readers here, Jay, instead of leading them to believe that there is a huge substantive difference between them?
Itchy Finger
February 19th, 2013
9:59 am
USinUK – former Girl Scout:
Just copied and pasted… Talk to your lib friend about grammatical are’s sport….
Latrina
February 19th, 2013
10:00 am
The budgetary slash ‘n burn needs to occur primarily in defense.
Congress keeps pushing back against unneeded U.S. base closures because that means lost jobs in the home state.
And for cryin in the beer why do we still need 50+ miliraty bases in Germany, are we expecting a re-emergence of the Third Reich?
SPC
February 19th, 2013
10:00 am
The Greeks never made the hard decisions to turn their fiscal ship from disaster. Look where they are now and the human suffering that has resulted. While I would like to see something a little more rational, reduced spending has to happen, and the sooner the better.
Uh Huh.......The GOP are like angels dancing on the head of a pin
February 19th, 2013
10:00 am
The Republicans were holding a gun to the administration’s head and besides, the Republicans immediately voted for sequestration.
The important thing now is that outside of Fox News land, it’s an unimportant fact whose “idea” it was. The Republicans are partial owners of this idea, and as the party that now wants the cuts to kick in, they deserve to—and will—bear more responsibility for the negative impacts.
Uh Huh
Itchy Finger
February 19th, 2013
10:00 am
USinUK – former Girl Scout
“Seems to me the takers in society haven’t sacrificed one thing…”
the liberal denial…
Jefferson
February 19th, 2013
10:01 am
The GOP was for it before they were against it, see vote counts. The idea that tax increases are over is plain childish wishful thinking (Santa will pay the bills).
Joe Hussein Mama
February 19th, 2013
10:01 am
F. Sinkiewicz — “About malpractice? What the eff does that have to do with anything?”
Well, genius, it’s in the GOP ‘compromise’ budget. And once again, what’s it got to do with the Federal budget? Your side put it *in* their budget, so clearly the GOP thinks it’s got something to do with it. How about you explain to us all what that is?
OTOH, quite frankly, genius if you don’t even know what’s in your own side’s budget proposals, then take a freakin’ hike and crack a book so you can smarten up before you speak to me again.
GT
February 19th, 2013
10:02 am
How do you budget for defensive spending? I can see cuts in reoccurring events but who predicts the wars we go to fight. I imagine the definition of what takes us into a war would have to be redefined. That alone will save us trillions. That and controlling Wall Street which has cost us trillions, and will again unless we make changes. These two areas of spending on unpredictable bombs going off are what have gotten this budget where it is.
You start letting people die at the hospital steps and even try to push that off on this president, like you have the lies you preached in the last election and not only will your party be dead at some point you will have desperate mobs roaming the streets of America. The guards you have protecting the borders will have to be reassigned to the street and the border is wide open. The right is always looking for that dramatic event, something to scare the American public into allowing them the control of this country. Looks to me like they are cooking up another mess for us to clean up. Maybe this time the American public will wise up and not let them sabotage our country for their selfish agendas. The Republicans slice and dice up like an enemy. They go way beyond the boundaries of democracy, in a belief that harming this country is good for their cause.
Escaped from Email Purgatory
February 19th, 2013
10:02 am
So Bookman you’re laying the ground work for an overall liberal argument that “Sure, President Obama is PART of the reason why America can’t get it’s fiscal house in order, but it’s actually more those spoil sport, irrelevant Republicans faultl!”
Your rationale perpetuates you wet dream: Obama’s role as the beleaguered hero – the tall thin black man left holding the bag full of business as usual in Washington, DC.
As dire as you eloquently describe the looming sequester, tell me – where was Obama all weekend? He was doing what?
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Steve
February 19th, 2013
10:02 am
I have to agree with Jefferson. Tax increases are going to have to be part of the austerity that the GOP wants as they scream for debt reduction. You can’t just take food away from poor kids and balance the budget.
Granny Godzilla
February 19th, 2013
10:02 am
Christian Conservative
February 19th, 2013
9:56 am
Granny Godzilla:
Nothing goes well for the GOP because of the Obama loving lapdog media. I hope they hold out and shut down the gov by not raising the debt ceiling too. They can’t win either way so doing what is best for the country to curtail the enormous waste by Obama and the Dems is what they must do….
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Yep, News Corp, Time Warner, Disney, Viacom are fluffy liberal lap dogs……
C’mere fluffy wuffy…kisses…kisses..oogie boogie…
JamVet
February 19th, 2013
10:03 am
Whatever will become of the Republican Party when Obama finishes his term of office…?
My guess?
They will nominate yet another pathetic candidate like McCain and Romney and get crushed again.
Itchy Finger
February 19th, 2013
10:03 am
Seniors starting to suffer because of obamacare.. but its the GOP’s fault…
http://www.forbes.com/sites/aroy/2013/02/19/here-comes-the-boom-cms-slashes-medicare-advantage-disarray-for-many-seniors/
комиссар (Occupation)
February 19th, 2013
10:03 am
Recon : “Erskine Boles and Alan Simpson unveiled a proposal this morning to avoid sequestration but appears according to Simpson to include entitlement reform. Simpson said that Obama will have a failed presidency if he refuses an entitlement reform component”
Why do you speak of cutting entitlements as entitlement “reform”, when such cuts are the surest way to those programs being dismantled?
Why don’t you go ahead and admit that you want them dismantled, just as Wall St. suits like Erskine Bowles and other right wing Democrats want to do along with Republicans? You don’t want to “reform” them, you want to “cut” them, just like your Wall St. overlords do.
That’s what you really want, isn’t it?
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ATL Tiger
February 19th, 2013
10:04 am
“Over the last few years, both parties have worked together to reduce the deficit by more than $2.5 trillion. As a result we are more than halfway toward the goal of $4 trillion in deficit reduction that economists say we need to stabilize our finances”
Straight up lie. We’ve had $1 trillion plus deficits every year of his Presidency. He might as well have said “it’s raining” while he was urinating on our legs.
USinUK - former Girl Scout
February 19th, 2013
10:04 am
What the heck is a grammatical “are”?
talk about a gymnastic use of the language.
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
February 19th, 2013
10:04 am
Talk to your lib friend about grammatical are’s sport….
Haliburton = singular, therefore use “says”.
voters = plural, therefore use “say”.
Geez….
AmericaShrugged
February 19th, 2013
10:05 am
We need government for the people. With the Reps at all cuts and the Dems at half cuts and half taxes if they would both just give a little and meet in the middle we’d be pretty lose to what the bi-partisan committee recommended to begin with, which I believe was about 75-80% cuts and 20-25% taxes.
Itchy Finger
February 19th, 2013
10:05 am
Steve
I have to agree with Jefferson. Tax increases are going to have to be part of the austerity that the GOP wants as they scream for debt reduction. You can’t just take food away from poor kids and balance the budget.
But you can take away Soyndra, Light Square, and all the other failed so called “green energy” companies obama has funneled billions of dollars to…
Bobby
February 19th, 2013
10:06 am
ATL Tiger
What are you complaining about?
I read the Bloomberg article you linked to and it is a solid plan put forth by the democrats.
The only problem is that the republicans want to do only two things. Protect “war profiteering” for defense contractors and lower taxes on these profits. Last, kill the social safety network created by the New Deal and Great Society.
This is their “Two Santa Plan” in full effect.
Run up huge debts by spending and handing out tax breaks to the wealthy. Force the democrats to kill Santa, (Medicare, Medicaid, Social Security, food assistance, etc) by claiming we are too far in debt to afford these programs when the dems have the power.
Obama and the democrats are hip to their game. Most Americans are hip to the republicans game. You still have a good number who don’t realize what the republicans are up to.
That is why the republicans are in the mess they are in now.
Soothsayer
February 19th, 2013
10:06 am
When we spend money we don’t have, we must print it out of thin air. This results in . . .
USinUK - former Girl Scout
February 19th, 2013
10:06 am
Kam – “Haliburton = singular, therefore use “says”.
voters = plural, therefore use “say”.
Geez….”
he cuts and pastes … he doesn’t HAVE to think … (just read his posts )
Erwin's cat
February 19th, 2013
10:06 am
sequester already!
Granny Godzilla
February 19th, 2013
10:07 am
ATL Tiger
February 19th, 2013
10:04 am
“Over the last few years, both parties have worked together to reduce the deficit by more than $2.5 trillion. As a result we are more than halfway toward the goal of $4 trillion in deficit reduction that economists say we need to stabilize our finances”
Straight up lie. We’ve had $1 trillion plus deficits every year of his Presidency. He might as well have said “it’s raining” while he was urinating on our legs.
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trees meet forest
or should it in this case be “Forrest” meet trees???
Christian Conservative
February 19th, 2013
10:07 am
Lets have an honest debate. If the sequester comes it will have absolutely no effect on me and my family. So that’s why I’m for it because we must stop spending money we don’t have….
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Soothsayer
February 19th, 2013
10:08 am
So then it becomes a matter of holding the only medium of exchange that they can’t print more of.
TaxPayer
February 19th, 2013
10:08 am
The Republican constituency needs to start feeling the pain that their Republican leaders have chosen for them. Then the whining will truly begin.
USinUK - former Girl Scout
February 19th, 2013
10:08 am
” If the sequester comes it will have absolutely no effect on me and my family. So that’s why I’m for it ”
aaaaaaaaaaaaand that’s the first honest thing CC has said today.
Granny Godzilla
February 19th, 2013
10:08 am
Itchy Finger
February 19th, 2013
10:05 am
Steve
I have to agree with Jefferson. Tax increases are going to have to be part of the austerity that the GOP wants as they scream for debt reduction. You can’t just take food away from poor kids and balance the budget.
But you can take away Soyndra, Light Square, and all the other failed so called “green energy” companies obama has funneled billions of dollars to…
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Please compare and contrast the failure rate of green energy investments with average
failure rates in industry.
I’ll wait..
Uh Huh.......The GOP are like angels dancing on the head of a pin
February 19th, 2013
10:08 am
@Steve
February 19th, 2013
9:58 am
Gas prices increase when the economy turns around. DAMN YOU OBAMA!
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
DAMN OBAMA???
Don’t BLAME Obama because you are too STOOPID to find the truth.
High gas prices are caused by high crude oil prices. These prices fluctuate daily, and account for 72% of the price of gasoline. The remaining 28% comes from distribution and taxes, which are more stable. When oil prices rise, you can expect to see it at the gas pump six weeks later.
Like most of the things you buy, oil prices are affected by supply and demand. However, oil prices are primarily controlled by oil futures contracts, which are traded on the commodities futures exchanges. The price depends on what investors think the price of oil will be in the future. When traders think oil will be high, they bid it up even higher. In this way, commodities traders create a self-fulfilling prophecy by bidding up oil futures prices. This leads to an asset bubble.
Unfortunately, the one who pays for this bubble is you!
Uh Huh
AmericaShrugged
February 19th, 2013
10:09 am
Jamvet – How about Kerry vs Romney in ‘16? The race will be known as the biggest loser!!!!
JohnnyReb
February 19th, 2013
10:09 am
Conveniently missing from Jay’s finger pointing is this -
Obama and Harry have not passed a budget in 4 years. If they had passed a budget, perhaps the current crisis could have been avoided.
Not passing a budget has moved us from one crisis to the next.
The Republican House has passed two bills that would have avoided this crisis but Harry and Barry would not bring them to the floor.
So, Obama would not agree to the “big bargin” with Boehner and wanted sequester. He got it. The House has put forth two alternatives; the Senate has done nothing. Now, Barry was far it before he was against it, but surely, but without doubt, it’s all the Republican’s fault.
Credibility anyone?
Steve
February 19th, 2013
10:10 am
How “Christian” of you, ChristianConservative. What would Jesus think of your selfish viewpoint? You only care about yourself while others suffer? So Christ-like! Wow, you people are beyond immoral. You are selfish hypocrites. Disgusting!
TaxPayer
February 19th, 2013
10:11 am
The sequester will most certainly affect a lot of people but clearly the self-proclaimed unaffected Republicans are willing to suffer through it.
Steve
February 19th, 2013
10:11 am
@ Uh Huh – you completely missed the sarcasm and irony of my post. And you missed how I explain how Obama doesn’t control gas prices in other posts.
F. Sinkwich
February 19th, 2013
10:11 am
I don’t believe those gloom-and-doom statistics Jay posted up top. Not at all.
O’Bozo’s biggest fear if sequestration happens is not granny freezing, it’s that no one notices.
Granny Godzilla
February 19th, 2013
10:12 am
JohnnyReb
February 19th, 2013
10:09 am
Conveniently missing from Jay’s finger pointing is this -
Obama and Harry have not passed a budget in 4 years
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snicker
St Simons - he-ne-ha
February 19th, 2013
10:13 am
git em ‘Corbin’ – mrsstsimons says “take the physical therapy, and do
what they tell you to”
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
February 19th, 2013
10:13 am
The race will be known as the biggest loser!!!!
No political contest with that name would be complete without Sarah of the Tundra front and center.
ATL Tiger
February 19th, 2013
10:13 am
Bobby,
First, I didn’t post anything from Bloomberg.
Second, you’re rambling about Dems being hip and GOP wanting to kill Santa is irrelevent.
Dems and Obama already got 41:1 ratio of taxes to spending cuts.
MiltonMan
February 19th, 2013
10:13 am
Just ignore that the original idea for sequestration was proposed by none other than Gene Sperling & Jack Lew. The same Gene Sperling who received $900,000 from Goldman Sachs for his “advice on charity” & Obama’s pick to be on the wonderful “National Economic Council”. The same Jack Lew who is Obama’s nomination to replace tax cheat Geithner
Itchy Finger
February 19th, 2013
10:13 am
USinUK – former Girl Scout
Kam – “Haliburton = singular, therefore use “says”.
voters = plural, therefore use “say”.
Geez….”
he cuts and pastes … he doesn’t HAVE to think … (just read his posts )
You must be a genius? twit…
JohnnyReb
February 19th, 2013
10:13 am
Granny, when you get through snickering, perhaps you can convey to your Moonbat friends just why there has not been a budget passed.
TaxPayer
February 19th, 2013
10:14 am
Obama and Harry have not passed a budget in 4 years. If they had passed a budget, perhaps the current crisis could have been avoided.
JReb,
If you tie a string to that thing, you can swallow it and pull it back up and swallow it again and just keep regurgitating it for as long as you can extract some flavor from it.
Steve
February 19th, 2013
10:14 am
So, Uh huh – my sarcastic point is this – the economy is improving (shouldn’t Obama take credit?) yet the conservatives complain about gas prices increasing, which is directly related to the increase of demand for gas/oil due to an accelerating economy. Yet conservatives never credit Obama when gas prices fall. Irony. Sarcasm.
TaxPayer
February 19th, 2013
10:15 am
Not to worry though, cons. Your Republican leaders in Congress must be paid. It’s the law.
Doggone/GA
February 19th, 2013
10:15 am
“snicker”
I’ve got beyond “snicker” – I’m now up to “chuckle”!
MiltonMan
February 19th, 2013
10:16 am
“How “Christian” of you, ChristianConservative. What would Jesus think of your selfish viewpoint? You only care about yourself while others suffer? So Christ-like! Wow, you people are beyond immoral. You are selfish hypocrites. Disgusting!”
Wow! Bash someone for being judgmental then turn around and be judgmental??? Is there any hope for humanity?
JohnnyReb
February 19th, 2013
10:16 am
OK, let’s cut to the chase. Obama does not want to stop spending. It’s clear. The “balanced approach” rhetoric is BS. He wants more tax increases to support more spending.
Peadawg
February 19th, 2013
10:17 am
“Tax increases are going to have to be part of”
Democrats already got their tax increases a month or two ago.
Jay
February 19th, 2013
10:19 am
ATL Tiger, that ratio of 41 to 1 was reported incorrectly by Fox and Breitbart. It was actually 10-1, according to CBO. Fox ran a correction to that effect.
Furthermore, you can’t look at that one deal alone, because it was just the most recent of several deficit-cutting deals. Since fiscal 2011, the deficit reduction achieved in those deals has amounted to 62 percent from spending cuts, 26 percent from revenue and 12 percent from reduced interest costs.
You may also recall this chart that I published earlier on federal spending:
http://blogs.ajc.com/jay-bookman-blog/2013/02/13/so-this-is-obamas-fault/
Itchy Finger
February 19th, 2013
10:19 am
F. Sinkwich
I don’t believe those gloom-and-doom statistics Jay posted up top. Not at all.
O’Bozo’s biggest fear if sequestration happens is not granny freezing, it’s that no one notices.
You hit the nail on the head with the above statement Frank. It goes for the other horrendous numbers that obama and the media simply ignore. Unemployment is higher since he assumed office, Gas prices have skyrocketed. Food stamps and welfare have exploded. The number of people in the workfirce is at a 40 year low… These are things they ignore because they don’t want the uninformed to hear about it….
ATL Tiger
February 19th, 2013
10:20 am
Anyone equating gas prices with any President is a moron.
Now, the FED printing more money (stimulus & Quantitative Easing) devaluing our dollar most definitely impacts what we pay for the same amount of gas.
MiltonMan
February 19th, 2013
10:20 am
Must stop cuts so that Pelosi will not be hurt
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GAtazrPdeGw
TaxPayer
February 19th, 2013
10:20 am
Democrats and Republicans got the elimination of certain temporary tax cuts a month or so ago. That’s all.
USinUK - former Girl Scout
February 19th, 2013
10:20 am
“You must be a genius”
yes.
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Butch Cassidy (I)
February 19th, 2013
10:21 am
Itchy Finger – “Seems to me the takers in society haven’t sacrificed one thing while the working middle class continues to suffer…..”
Facebook says what???
teacher
February 19th, 2013
10:21 am
cc,
what do you do for a living? take 85 billion out of the economy and it will slow down. think of the multiplier effect.
MiltonMan
February 19th, 2013
10:22 am
“Anyone equating gas prices with any President is a moron.”
Where were you when Bush was getting slammed over and over and over again for his “war to control oil”, for his fault for higher energy prices, etc., etc.???
Granny Godzilla
February 19th, 2013
10:24 am
JohnnyReb
February 19th, 2013
10:13 am
Granny, when you get through snickering, perhaps you can convey to your Moonbat friends just why there has not been a budget passed
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double dawg snicker
philosopher
February 19th, 2013
10:25 am
Jay
February 19th, 2013
9:44 am
“Cuts food stamps, cuts heating aid for the poor, cuts job training, cuts nutrition assistance, abolishes health-insurance exchanges, cuts public health, cuts health insurance for poor people ….”
And this is where the Christian Conservatives come marching out in force to protect and feed and demand help for “the least of these”…right???
Peadawg
February 19th, 2013
10:25 am
“Democrats and Republicans got the elimination of certain temporary tax cuts a month or so ago. That’s all.”
Um…no. The SS payroll tax increase wasn’t the only thing.
“The bill will raise taxes on individual incomes over $400,000 and household incomes over $450,000, on investment profits and dividends, and on the portion of estates that exceeds $5 million.”
alex
February 19th, 2013
10:25 am
Repubs can point to a tax increase which they agreed to, ..deficeit going up…..no spending cuts proffered by Dems…plays into GOP hands in 2014, UNLESS the economy is bounding north. Unemployment is stable at 7.9%, manufacturing is down. No sign of a significant recovery, but we “snicker” and speak of Sarah of the Tundra and haliburton, perhaps this IS what the Dems want……
ATL Tiger
February 19th, 2013
10:26 am
“Where were you when Bush was getting slammed over and over and over again for his “war to control oil”, for his fault for higher energy prices, etc., etc.???”
Laughing
Peadawg
February 19th, 2013
10:26 am
“Seems to me the takers in society haven’t sacrificed one thing while the working middle class continues to suffer…..”
Is Facebook included in that?
barking frog
February 19th, 2013
10:26 am
The GOP will not allow sequestration to take effect, it hits
the military too hard. The President is aware of this and
was when he proposed it. Chess-Checkers again.
Christian Conservative
February 19th, 2013
10:26 am
teacher
cc,
what do you do for a living? take 85 billion out of the economy and it will slow down. think of the multiplier effect.
I have a job and make a nice living. Again this will have absolutely no impact on me and my family. It is nothing but an illusion put forth by the Obama administration and the Dem party to try and divide people even more…..
комиссар (Occupation)
February 19th, 2013
10:27 am
JohnnyReb: “Obama and Harry have not passed a budget in 4 years. If they had passed a budget, perhaps the current crisis could have been avoided.”
But the two-party game of misdirection wouldn’t have worked under that scenario. There would have been mass upheaval and protest, and Obama might well have lost the election. So instead we had to have the current theatrics.
“Not passing a budget has moved us from one crisis to the next.”
Yes, but it has helped to dull the sensibilities of the people and inure them to what is going on. Finally, it is hoped, the people will just throw up their hands in resignation and let Washington carry out its slashing campaign, or just check out from apathy and disgust over Washington “gridlock”.
“The Republican House has passed two bills that would have avoided this crisis but Harry and Barry would not bring them to the floor.”
You don’t really get how this thing works, do you? You’re still invested in the partisan ‘game’, just like Jay.
TaxPayer
February 19th, 2013
10:29 am
Um…no. The SS payroll tax increase wasn’t the only thing.
Pea,
Um… perhaps you can point out in my post where I said any such thing that you claim.
Christian Conservative
February 19th, 2013
10:29 am
philosopher:
Again this is simply rhetoric put out by the Obama administration. None of this will happen… You people are amazingly gullible or perhaps just uninformed.
Granny Godzilla
February 19th, 2013
10:30 am
alex….snicker
Escaped from Email Purgatory
February 19th, 2013
10:30 am
@Johnny Reb
I don’t know what brought you to Bookman Land, but me? I needed answers. How in the wide world of sports could a mope with a record like Obama’s get reelected? November 4, 2012 I awoke a depressed, dazed and confused man.
One thing that I thought might help me cope is to think like an Obama voter. I gotta solve this puzzle. Repeatedly asking myself “WTF?” while I beat my head against the nearest hard and flat surface hasn’t enlightened me a lick.
So I found Bookman. A personable enough fellow, Jay. He posts multiple blogs on a daily basis. And he rarely takes a day off. In fact, since I started adding my IP address to his guest list, I haven’t seen one “gone fishin’ ” blog yet.
As left-leaning as Bookman is, he’s a John Bircher compared to about 80% of his regular commenters. So me, I figure I can lurk among these devils for a bit and learn what makes them tick.
They hate Fox News. Old white men are anathema – and good riddance as attrition rids the planet of our sorry hides. Obama Care is rarely mentioned. Neither are any accomplishments Obama – other than the revenge he’s exacting on their behalf.
Gloating over the election results predominates still. And ripping anything NRA or GOP or non-Obama simply because it is NRA or GOP or non-Obama seems to represent the bulk of the content of the posted comments.
Seems the vast majority of Bookman’s blogs rip what he calls the shameless behavior of conservatives, post-Jubilee 2012.
“Spoilsports” and ‘irrelevant” are favorite adjectives used to describe those of us who are being left behind as the righteous swell of America’s new utopia envelopes our great nation.
I guess I’m saying that there is no substance behind Obama’s appeal. He’s all flash and dash and anger and unspecified change. And he pisses off old farts like me. Not to flatter myself much.
So when you get “snicker” as a response to a valid point made, take it for what it is. “Snicker” is all they got.
Butch Cassidy (I)
February 19th, 2013
10:30 am
Escaped from email purgatory – ” where was Obama all weekend? He was doing what?”
Didn’t you hear? He was with Tiger Woods playing golf and plotting to overthrow the free world by using guns confiscated from the American people and financed by using your 401k and IRA..
Peadawg
February 19th, 2013
10:31 am
“Um… perhaps you can point out in my post where I said any such thing that you claim.”
Sure thing – “Democrats and Republicans got the elimination of certain temporary tax cuts a month or so ago. That’s all.”
You’re welcome.
TaxPayer
February 19th, 2013
10:31 am
“Where were you when Bush was getting slammed over and over and over again for his “war to control oil”, for his fault for higher energy prices, etc., etc.???”
Actually, some of the cons posting here were claiming that Bush lowered gas prices and they were expressly dissatisfaction with Obama for not putting us back into a deep recession so their gas prices would return to the low level under Bush. That con logic is something else, isn’t it.
Jay
February 19th, 2013
10:32 am
Not just Facebook, Peadawg. How about this one, from the company that brought us the Triumph cruise:
“The Carnival Corporation wouldn’t have much of a business without help from various branches of the government. The United States Coast Guard keeps the seas safe for Carnival’s cruise ships. Customs officers make it possible for Carnival cruises to travel to other countries. State and local governments have built roads and bridges leading up to the ports where Carnival’s ships dock.
But Carnival’s biggest government benefit of all may be the price it pays for many of those services. Over the last five years, the company has paid total corporate taxes — federal, state, local and foreign — equal to only 1.1 percent of its cumulative $11.3 billion in profits. Thanks to an obscure loophole in the tax code, Carnival can legally avoid most taxes. “
Redcoat
February 19th, 2013
10:32 am
Third world we are catching up………..
Granny Godzilla
February 19th, 2013
10:33 am
Escaped from Email Purgatory
February 19th, 2013
10:30 am
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Chortle and guffaw
USinUK - former Girl Scout
February 19th, 2013
10:33 am
“Where were you when Bush was getting slammed over and over and over again for his “war to control oil””
well, I don’t believe he manipulated the market
but, you can’t disagree with the basic economic facts that unrest in the ME = higher gas prices. He invaded Iraq without provocation, thus causing increased unrest in the ME … thus raising gas prices.
Road Scholar
February 19th, 2013
10:34 am
President Obama may have proposed the sequester as a solution, but didn’t another party agree to it? So who is to “blame”?
jconservative
February 19th, 2013
10:34 am
As Goodman correctly noted, the sequester passed both houses of Congress with comfortable, bi-partisan votes and was signed by the President. That makes it community property, so to speak.
From day one I have not objected to the sequester going into effect. Primarily because of the Defense cuts. Defense has had the luxury of “hands off” for about 35 years. It is time that ended. And, like the refusal to increase taxes is now a thing off the past, so will defense cuts be a thing of the past.
Next target, entitlements.
Slowly but surely we are getting there.
Peadawg
February 19th, 2013
10:34 am
Jay
February 19th, 2013
10:32 am
Stupid takers.
Redneck Convert (R--and proud of it)
February 19th, 2013
10:34 am
Erskine Boles and Alan Simpson unveiled a proposal this morning to avoid sequestration but appears according to Simpson to include entitlement reform.
That reminds me. I was walking thru a WalMart last weekend and I come across the cat food section. Y’know, they got some pretty good looking food in those cans. You can have it in pate, shredded, and filet form. They got Chicken in Gravy, Chicken and Tuna, Turkey and Cheese, Oceanfish, and a whole bunch of others. And best of all, it’s only 50 cents a can—at least for Friskies.
And I got to thinking. I figure a can of that stuff would make a pretty good meal for a geezer or a laid-off bum or a welfare queen. And the guvmint could probly get it at a discount. Think about it—three meals for $1.50. Heck, you could feed a family of four for 42 bucks a week.
So what are we waiting for? We need a Cat Food Commission right now to start working on big savings for programs like WIC, food stamps, SS, unemployment, etc.
I don’t know the reason why I didn’t mention it till now other than somebody brought up the Simpson-Bowles gang.
USinUK - former Girl Scout
February 19th, 2013
10:35 am
“I have a job and make a nice living. Again this will have absolutely no impact on me and my family.”
aaaahhhhh, “christian” righties and their “I got mine” philosophy
TaxPayer
February 19th, 2013
10:36 am
Pea,
You said I said: Um…no. The SS payroll tax increase wasn’t the only thing.
I did not. You said that. You’re welcome. Take your sophistry elsewhere.
There.
Itchy Finger
February 19th, 2013
10:36 am
Road Scholar
President Obama may have proposed the sequester as a solution, but didn’t another party agree to it? So who is to “blame”?
dems control 2/3 of gubmint… So they obviously shoulder the most blame… Not to mention it was their idea…
barking frog
February 19th, 2013
10:36 am
Commissar
Sometimes you just can’t see the forest for the trees.
There are only two players in U.S. politics. Democrats
and Republicans. That will remain for a long time to come.
The Republicans are moving to being an obstructionist
player which does not mean they will be totally ineffective.
Party politics is the only game in play.
St Simons - he-ne-ha
February 19th, 2013
10:37 am
“The righteous care about justice for the poor, but the wicked have
no such concern.” –Proverbs 29:4
now, for a game of pin the tail on the donkey…
St Simons - he-ne-ha
February 19th, 2013
10:38 am
and of course, the great Creek Indian corrollary –
“Never insult a person until you have walked a mile in their shoes.
That way, you’re a mile away, and you have his shoes”
Christian Conservative
February 19th, 2013
10:38 am
USinUK – former Girl Scout
“I have a job and make a nice living. Again this will have absolutely no impact on me and my family.”
aaaahhhhh, “christian” righties and their “I got mine” philosophy
I give to charity and tithe to my church. I give plenty…. Unfortunately I feel most of the taxes I pay are wasted….
JohnnyReb
February 19th, 2013
10:39 am
Escaped from eMail purgatory – I have posted here for over four years now. It was much more enjoyable back then as lately it has become infected with hard left regulars who, as I have posted before, would defend Obama if he crapped on the Resolute Desk while on National TV.
The only answers you will find here is how looney the Left has become.
As for me, I enjoy kicking the ant hill.
Granny Godzilla
February 19th, 2013
10:39 am
“I have a job and make a nice living. Again this will have absolutely no impact on me and my family.”
~ CC
Well, frankly my family won’t suffer either…however some of my fellow American surely will.
I am my brothers keeper, why aren’t you?
Cheesy Grits is gone but not forgotten
February 19th, 2013
10:39 am
What it basically comes down to is that Republicans will protect the wealthy from more taxes no matter what.
If they have to throw the entire country under the bus in the process so be it.
Peadawg
February 19th, 2013
10:40 am
TaxPayer
February 19th, 2013
10:36 am
You DO realize the SS payroll tax increase is one of, if not THE, “certain temporary tax cuts” you were talking about, right?
Now you’re playing on technicalities and moving the goalposts now after you got called out. Go try that crap somewhere else.
Thomas Heyward Jr
February 19th, 2013
10:41 am
No matter how bad things get…………………I’m just glad that I’m not an Obama apologist.
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Gawd.
Can anyone imagine how awful it is for progs like Granny Godzilla to have to look n the mirror to shave in the morning?
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sad
Cheesy Grits is gone but not forgotten
February 19th, 2013
10:41 am
Unfortunately I feel most of the taxes I pay are wasted….
They aren’t. But your tithes probably are.
Can you say missionaries giving circumcisions ????
indigo
February 19th, 2013
10:41 am
It is Obama’s idea but House Republicans VOTED FOR IT.
It’s no surpirse they will now conviently forget that and blame Obama as it he, and he alone, put it in place.
It will be interesting to see how many of the tool electorate will be just as conviently blind.
Judging from the con comments here, that number will be legion.
Granny Godzilla
February 19th, 2013
10:41 am
Johnny Reb
YOU ARE WRONG
we’d all be mad if any President “bowed up” on the resolute desk…Mr. Silly Pants.
Just like we got mad when the GOP “bowed up” all over our economy and national security.
and they call it trickle down…..
philosopher
February 19th, 2013
10:42 am
Christian Conservative
February 19th, 2013
10:29 am
philosopher:
Again this is simply rhetoric put out by the Obama administration. None of this will happen… You people are amazingly gullible or perhaps just uninformed.
Whew! I guess you’re off the hook for any of that “anything you do for the least of these, you do for me” stuff.
Itchy Finger
February 19th, 2013
10:42 am
USinUK – former Girl Scout
“I have a job and make a nice living. Again this will have absolutely no impact on me and my family.”
aaaahhhhh, “christian” righties and their “I got mine” philosophy
Please learn to form a complete sentence….
Cheesy Grits is gone but not forgotten
February 19th, 2013
10:44 am
Hebrews 13:16
Do not neglect to do good and to share what you have, for such sacrifices are pleasing to God.
1 John 3:17
But if anyone has the world’s goods and sees his brother in need, yet closes his heart against him, how does God’s love abide in him?
Luke 12:33
Sell your possessions, and give to the needy. Provide yourselves with moneybags that do not grow old, with a treasure in the heavens that does not fail, where no thief approaches and no moth destroys.
Acts 20:35
In all things I have shown you that by working hard in this way we must help the weak and remember the words of the Lord Jesus, how he himself said, ‘It is more blessed to give than to receive.’”
Itchy Finger
February 19th, 2013
10:44 am
USinUK – former Girl Scout
“Where were you when Bush was getting slammed over and over and over again for his “war to control oil””
well, I don’t believe he manipulated the market
but, you can’t disagree with the basic economic facts that unrest in the ME = higher gas prices. He invaded Iraq without provocation, thus causing increased unrest in the ME … thus raising gas prices.
You do know you start sentences with capitol letters right?
JamVet
February 19th, 2013
10:44 am
Sorry, I left out one important aspect in my last post.
After the neocons get crushed again in 2016, they will crow and prance about and tell you what a staggering success the election was for them.
Good times…
Granny Godzilla
February 19th, 2013
10:44 am
Thomas Heyward Jr
February 19th, 2013
10:41 am
No matter how bad things get…………………I’m just glad that I’m not an Obama apologist.
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Gawd.
Can anyone imagine how awful it is for progs like Granny Godzilla to have to look n the mirror to shave in the morning?
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sad
,
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.
.
.Yo know as little about women as everything else, Mr. Silly Pants
at my age one PLUCKS
DUH
curious
February 19th, 2013
10:44 am
Can anyone explain how the GOP could have been so dumb to vote for the sequestor?
All the time it was a trick by Obama to make the GOP look stupid and it worked.
AmericaShrugged
February 19th, 2013
10:44 am
“On the social-spending side, to cite just a few specific examples, some 10,000 Americans will be cut off from the AIDS drugs that keep them alive; 70,000 children will be pushed off Head Start; 373,000 seriously mentally ill people will no longer have a means of treatment. The list goes on and on.”
Unfortunately, this is the real world, the one we can actually afford without endlessly printing money we haven’t created through productivity.
As I posted yesterday, our current path is reverse social Darwinism, prosperity, long lives, and high birth rates for weakest and dumbest. All that ensures is a future of mediocrity for all.
TaxPayer
February 19th, 2013
10:45 am
Peadawg,
You apparently do not realize that I said “…select temporary tax cuts…” Try to understand precisely what that statement of mine means. Read it over and over. Let it soak in. Dwell on it. Sleep on it. Whatever.
Thomas Heyward Jr
February 19th, 2013
10:45 am
Do not confuse a decent and peaceful Society with an authoritarian violent Federal government—-
“When the State seeks to perform the duties that ordinarily would be carried out through people’s voluntary social bonds, it damages these bonds and weakens civilization.
Under normal conditions, there is a clear line of demarcation between the State and society. Former British Prime Minister Margaret Thatcher once famously declared that there was “no such thing as society.” Her remarks referred to the nonexistence of a collective entity.
No Society, Lady Thatcher?
Many on Britain’s left attributed a kind of moral bankruptcy to these remarks. Unfortunately, taken out of context, the phrase provides ammunition for collectivists who wish falsely to portray libertarians as uncaring, egotistical individualists interested only in maximum economic efficiency (or worse—profit). According to such critics, libertarian-minded individuals believe, contra John Donne, that each man is an island, and that what “society” exists at all is only a disconnected assortment of competing atoms, zealous only for their own interests at the expense of all others.
This straw man has proven to be a dangerously effective way of scaring many into collectivist thinking. In reality, any sound description of practical liberty places great importance on the role of society. Society consists of a complex array of fundamental structures, such as the family, as well as myriad other voluntary associations and institutions that tend to grow up organically—that is, without central planning. In fact, the path of modern history demonstrates that unwarranted and immoral State intervention has been the actual cause of social atomization.
Read more: http://www.fee.org/the_freeman/detail/society-and-state-in-modern-britain#ixzz2LMOme5lT
JohnnyReb
February 19th, 2013
10:46 am
Granny – I’m sensing you may have changed your house coat; couldn’t find a flannel, and had to settle for something flimsy, not warm and comfy.
W made a few mistakes, sure, but too often the Left overlooks he did not let the country go down the pooper after 9/11.
As to trickle down, I keep waitng on the Left to tell us their plan if they get their way and kill the economy. So far the only utterance has been that Obama has a “stash.”
DownInAlbany
February 19th, 2013
10:46 am
The House and Senate passed sequester, right? The President signed it, right? How can you point to this as a pub problem?
Don’t I remember Obama saying during the debates last fall that, “…sequester will not happen…”?
Road Scholar
February 19th, 2013
10:46 am
Redneck: One problem: you would drink beer with eating the cat food, but what type of wine should one serve…white or red? Of course it would be 2 buck ($2.49 a bottle now) Chuck!
Itchy finger: “dems control 2/3 of gubmint…” Are you really that stupid not to know if the House, which is a majority of repubs, did not pass sequester…it would not go to the Senate for their vote, or the President for his signature????
Repeat after me: ALL SPENDING BILLS SHALL ORIGINATE IN THE HOUSE!!!!
I see your lips are moving while you attempt to read and comprehend this.
Class of '98
February 19th, 2013
10:47 am
I also don’t believe the tactic is going to work, in large part because anyone who gets their news from any source besides FNC will be fed a steady stream of the “this-has-to-be-all-the-fault-of-Republicans-because-the-exalted-one-Barack-Obama-is-perfect-in-every-way” narrative.
This Bookman column is just par for the course. It was Obama’s idea, but Republicans’ fault. Heads Obama wins, tails Republicans lose.
Christian Conservative
February 19th, 2013
10:48 am
philosopher:
Honestly when you have a government that spends trillions of dollars a year it don’t take a heck of a lot of logic to realize there’s waste somewhere. The left seems to think our government is efficient. No one in their right mind would believe that….
USinUK - former Girl Scout
February 19th, 2013
10:48 am
“I give to charity and tithe to my church. I give plenty…. Unfortunately I feel most of the taxes I pay are wasted….”
I do, too – but we probably have different views on what items are considered “waste”
Cheesy Grits is gone but not forgotten
February 19th, 2013
10:49 am
Unfortunately, this is the real world
Yes it is. And instead of funding those things we must make sure that the super wealthy have loopholes and only pay very little in taxes.
This is the Republican priority.
Uh Huh.......The GOP are like angels dancing on the head of a pin
February 19th, 2013
10:49 am
@Christian Conservative
February 19th, 2013
10:07 am
Lets have an honest debate. If the sequester comes it will have absolutely no effect on me and my family. So that’s why I’m for it because we must stop spending money we don’t have….
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
“it will have absolutely no effect on me and my family”
You have no compassion for those who it will AFFECT?
YOU ARE A CHRISTIAN CONSERVATIVE?????????????
How many “so called CHRISTIAN CONSERVATIVES” observe Christ’s
birthday?
How few “CHRISTIAN CONSERVATIVES, observe Christ’s behavior or thought?
Uh Huh
St Simons - he-ne-ha
February 19th, 2013
10:50 am
“Unfortunately I feel most of the taxes I pay are wasted…”
duuuuude, i’ve done accounting for churches, and govt over the yrs.
no offense, i’m just sayin, you neeeed to rethink that. whoa nelly do you
Itchy Finger
February 19th, 2013
10:50 am
curious
Can anyone explain how the GOP could have been so dumb to vote for the sequestor?
All the time it was a trick by Obama to make the GOP look stupid and it worked.
Actually to the informed obama will look stupid. He agreed to cuts when he really didn’t want to…. Its his baby. Now he’s got to raise it…
Peadawg
February 19th, 2013
10:50 am
TaxPayer
February 19th, 2013
10:45 am
Ending “select temporary tax cuts” INCLUDING the SS payroll tax cut WAS NOT ALL (read those 3 words again) that they got.
You got called out. Take it like a man.
Cheesy Grits is gone but not forgotten
February 19th, 2013
10:50 am
The left seems to think our government is efficient. No one in their right mind would believe that….
Its a lot more efficient than the private sector.
Ive worked for both and private companies waste way way way more money.
It isnt even close.
Im all for the free market but anyone thinking they dont waste a ton of money is a fool.
straitroad
February 19th, 2013
10:51 am
As painful as it may be, in the long run, these cuts will be a good thing for our country. Most of the “poor” that will be affected are only poor by our American definition of poor. Those that will finally get jobs will eventually come to appreciate working and supporting themselves. We can’t keep borrowing and spending at our current pace without causing serious damage.
USinUK - former Girl Scout
February 19th, 2013
10:51 am
“You do know you start sentences with capitol letters right?”
I don’t know about staring sentences with capitol letters, but I can tell you all about starting sentences with capitAl letters
numpty.
TaxPayer
February 19th, 2013
10:51 am
“Obamacare” was originally a Republican idea. Of course Obama and the Democrats accepted their idea and applied sound mathematical and scientific principles and actually made it viable. Hence the name “Obamacare”.
Butch Cassidy (I)
February 19th, 2013
10:51 am
DowninAlbany – “Don’t I remember Obama saying during the debates last fall that, “…sequester will not happen…”?”
You did. However, I believe at the time he was thinking that the GOP wouldn’t be stupid enough to blow their balls off and decimate any chance for re-election for years to come. Who knew?
Christian Conservative
February 19th, 2013
10:51 am
St Simons – he-ne-ha
“Unfortunately I feel most of the taxes I pay are wasted…”
duuuuude, i’ve done accounting for churches, and govt over the yrs.
no offense, i’m just sayin, you neeeed to rethink that. whoa nelly do you
Changing the subject is useless and baseless… If you can’t have an honest debate on government waste don’t comment…
Thomas Heyward Jr
February 19th, 2013
10:52 am
Granny Godzilla
February 19th, 2013
10:44 am
Thomas Heyward Jr
February 19th, 2013
10:41 am
No matter how bad things get…………………I’m just glad that I’m not an Obama apologist.
.
Gawd.
Can anyone imagine how awful it is for progs like Granny Godzilla to have to look n the mirror to shave in the morning?
.
sad
,
.
.
.
.Yo know as little about women as everything else, Mr. Silly Pants
at my age one PLUCKS
DUH
—————————————-
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My bust…My apologies.
But how does an Obama apologist look theirselves in the mirror without cringing.?
do you not care about the murder and violence?
TaxPayer
February 19th, 2013
10:53 am
Peadawg,
Just keep reading my original post until you comprehend it even if it does take you a lifetime. It’ll give you something to do. You got called out. Now take it like a Republican. Oops. That’s what you’re already doing.
Itchy Finger
February 19th, 2013
10:53 am
CC
St Simons – he-ne-ha
“Unfortunately I feel most of the taxes I pay are wasted…”
duuuuude, i’ve done accounting for churches, and govt over the yrs.
no offense, i’m just sayin, you neeeed to rethink that. whoa nelly do you
Changing the subject is useless and baseless… If you can’t have an honest debate on government waste don’t comment…
That’s what they do. They know the gubmint pisses away trillion’s every year but simply don’t care…
Cheesy Grits is gone but not forgotten
February 19th, 2013
10:53 am
How few “CHRISTIAN CONSERVATIVES, observe Christ’s behavior or thought?
Very very few.
They tend to be extremely self righteous.
They talk the talk but few walk the walk.
Its more of a social club thing really than anything to do with Jesus or his teachings.
alex
February 19th, 2013
10:54 am
@ Curious, if intelligent the repubs will dole out money in 2-3 month increments and repeatedly ask for spending cuts from the president, that is their opening, possibly… If he refuses to offer spending cuts ,this is an excellent issue for 2014…watch for it.
F. Sinkwich
February 19th, 2013
10:54 am
Let’s face some facts here. The spending cuts WILL happen.
Now, if the Dems want to rearrange the cuts in some fashion, let them make a proposal. Ball is the Dem court.
USinUK - former Girl Scout
February 19th, 2013
10:55 am
” do you not care about the murder and violence?”
wow, Obama is out committing murder and violence?
all this time, I thought the poutrage was about golf …
breckenridge
February 19th, 2013
10:55 am
But if we cut defense spending the terrorists win! Because the terrorists will march in and engage in terrorist activities and take over. We already have plenty of domestic terrorists in the country and plenty of acts of domestic terrorism. Call somebody and breathe heavily into the phone? Exhalation terrorism. Pass gas in public? Flatus terrorism. Flip somebody off in traffic? Vehicular terrorism. Burp? Belch terrorism. We have redefined terror to such an extent that it’s completely absurd.
Oh he’s a terrorist she’s a terrorist wouldn’t you like to be a terrorist too………….
Cheesy Grits is gone but not forgotten
February 19th, 2013
10:55 am
That’s what they do. They know the gubmint pisses away trillion’s every year but simply don’t care…
Most of that is in defense. That is where we should be cutting.
We spend billions on a laser hovertank we will never use nor need.
Drudge
February 19th, 2013
10:55 am
Wonder what course obama is playing today? What celebrity(s) will be attending and when do Michelle and the girls get back from Aspen? Ahh, it’s good to be the king.
Itchy Finger
February 19th, 2013
10:55 am
TaxPayer
“Obamacare” was originally a Republican idea. Of course Obama and the Democrats accepted their idea and applied sound mathematical and scientific principles and actually made it viable. Hence the name “Obamacare”.
The mind numbing liberal logic… So it’s the Republicans fault that the middle class and seniors are beginning to suffer because of obamacare???
Peadawg
February 19th, 2013
10:55 am
“Now take it like a Republican”
I’m not a Republican.
Keep digging.
curious
February 19th, 2013
10:55 am
Itchy Finger
“Actually to the informed obama will look stupid. He agreed to cuts when he really didn’t want to…. Its his baby. Now he’s got to raise it…”
By the time the Military-Industrial Complex and their legion of lobbyists get through, Obama will get what he wants, because the GOP will agree to anything to prevent cuts to DOD.
F. Sinkwich
February 19th, 2013
10:56 am
““Obamacare” was originally a Republican idea.”
Not meant to be a factual statement. **
** KammieSpam. All rights reserved.
Itchy Finger
February 19th, 2013
10:56 am
Drudge
Wonder what course obama is playing today? What celebrity(s) will be attending and when do Michelle and the girls get back from Aspen? Ahh, it’s good to be the king.
He’s running around with his boytoy Reggie Love….
Granny Godzilla
February 19th, 2013
10:56 am
JohnnyReb
February 19th, 2013
10:46 am
Granny – I’m sensing you may have changed your house coat; couldn’t find a flannel, and had to settle for something flimsy, not warm and comfy.
W made a few mistakes, sure, but too often the Left overlooks he did not let the country go down the pooper after 9/11.
As to trickle down, I keep waitng on the Left to tell us their plan if they get their way and kill the economy. So far the only utterance has been that Obama has a “stash.”
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House coat? I am most certainly not your mama…
501’s and button down oxford cloth for me, Mr. Silly Pants….
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
February 19th, 2013
10:56 am
Did you hear the one about the lady who went to the bank to get some cash? She handed the teller one of her personal checks and after a few minutes the teller came back and said, “I’m sorry Ma’am but you are out of funds in your account”.
The lady replied, “How can that be? I still have checks!”
Sounds just like UNCLE SAM to me !
TBone
February 19th, 2013
10:56 am
There will not be any cuts made because we have no leaders in DC. The elite ruling class will continue to nurse from the public teat as long as they can and that means a continuance of a dependent population of very low intellect. Let ‘em eat cake and flip ‘em a phone for good measure.
alex
February 19th, 2013
10:57 am
Jay, why are 50% of the dems for the sequester?
Granny Godzilla
February 19th, 2013
10:57 am
THjr
Yes, mostly your potential for it.
indigo
February 19th, 2013
10:57 am
Thomas Hewyard Jr.
I’d say you should have been born about 180 years ago.
USinUK - former Girl Scout
February 19th, 2013
10:57 am
“Most of that is in defense. That is where we should be cutting.”
no kidding.
St Simons - he-ne-ha
February 19th, 2013
10:58 am
“Changing the subject is useless and baseless… If you can’t have an
honest debate on government waste don’t comment…”
I see I hit the hypocrite in the bullseye.
don’t worry, I won’t acknowledge you any more, mr pompous ass.
Jesus is so proud of you.
GT
February 19th, 2013
10:58 am
Escaped from Email Purgatory the scenario Jay alludes to is the format of many a right wing strategy. The party of no, that parks its wide rear-end in the middle of all and refuses to move out of the way. When in office their policies of cowboy diplomacy and business monopolies running wild about bankrupt this country, and they escape just in time to accuse the fireman of setting the fire.
And what is up with our president playing golf, with whoever he wants to. He is not a prisoner he is actually a private citizen. You just can’t stand two black guys acting like they are important while you and your big hat no cattle crowd have to sit on the sideline put in your place.
Dharma Bum
February 19th, 2013
10:59 am
Dems/Libs and Reps/Cons spit in each other’s faces everyday and you guys wonder why there is no compromise? How about we drop the incendiary rhetoric and stop referring to Tea Partiers as “American Al Qaeda” and Liberals as “Communists?” That might be a start.
JamVet
February 19th, 2013
10:59 am
As to trickle down, there can be no two ways of accurately describing it – it has been a massive, colossal, gargantuan, stupendous failure that sent millions of Americans in the middle/working class into working poverty and flat-lined wages and benefits.
It was foisted on hard working people by the shamelessly immoral and craven 1% who now own and run OUR government. With the enormous help, of course, of the uneducated, stunningly gullible and self-destructive right wing.
Yet, the Reagan Rubes will swear to you that Reganomics/Trickle Down/Voodoo Economics (h/t GHWB) has been a huge success for the average American working family.
Thank gawd, the republic has gotten so sick of these fascists, bigots and criminal coddlers, that they are in danger of going the way of the Whig party.
Occupy that.
Steve-USA (I don't have all the answer's, I don't even know all the questions)
February 19th, 2013
10:59 am
“Kam – 9:38 – golf … the new teleprompter”
I wonder why? I couldn’t be because Liberal’s went crazy when Bush was Golfing. Somehow Golf was evil in the prior administration. Hypocrite’s
Butch Cassidy (I)
February 19th, 2013
11:00 am
Cheesy grits – “We spend billions on a laser hovertank we will never use nor need.”
Slow down, how do you know that the laser hovertank won’t become the Hummer of the new age? I’d love to have one for just getting around the city.
Christian Conservative
February 19th, 2013
11:01 am
Cheesy Grits is gone but not forgotten
February 19th, 2013
10:53 am
How few “CHRISTIAN CONSERVATIVES, observe Christ’s behavior or thought?
Very very few.
They tend to be extremely self righteous.
They talk the talk but few walk the walk.
Its more of a social club thing really than anything to do with Jesus or his teachings.
Its amusing reading what those on the left think about Christ. I don’t think he taught us that the government should take care of us. The church and the people in it should take care of those in need. Its a fact that Christians give more to charity and volunteer more of their time than anyone else in this country yet you people on the left want to leave it to the government.. Its sad really….
Christian Conservative
February 19th, 2013
11:02 am
St Simons – he-ne-ha
February 19th, 2013
10:58 am
“Changing the subject is useless and baseless… If you can’t have an
honest debate on government waste don’t comment…”
I see I hit the hypocrite in the bullseye.
don’t worry, I won’t acknowledge you any more, mr pompous ass.
Jesus is so proud of you.
Just pointing out your ignorance…..
Peadawg
February 19th, 2013
11:03 am
“Its amusing reading what those on the left think about Christ.”
Do you have a reading disorder? Cheesy wasn’t talking about Christ. He was talking about Christians. Big difference.
“I like your Christ, I do not like your Christians. Your Christians are so unlike your Christ.”
rightwingextreme
February 19th, 2013
11:03 am
Jay
February 19th, 2013
9:33 am
ATL Tiger, Senate Dems have proposed to avoid the $85 billion in cuts with $55 billion in more targeted cuts, matched with $55 billion in tax increases, for a total fiscal impact of $110 billion.
The House GOP refuses to consider anything with taxes, and Senate GOP will probably filibuster the Dem plan anyway.
Jay….that’s a load of bs and you know it. we’ve seen this problem coming for a long time now. bammy and the dims could have done the “right thing” when they had control of the congress and reformed the tax code anyway they wanted it, but instead they focused on another tax increase through obamacare.
This crap that the GOP forced this is just insane.
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
February 19th, 2013
11:03 am
“Jay, why are 50% of the dems for the sequester?”
Alex …………………. that’s a no no !
It’s not polite to embarrass Jay or force him to face the truth.
Butch Cassidy (I)
February 19th, 2013
11:04 am
Christian Conservative – ” Its a fact that Christians give more to charity and volunteer more of their time than anyone else in this country yet you people on the left want to leave it to the government.. Its sad really….”
Wow, I was unaware that there were no Democratic Christians. Could you please provide us with a link to back up this assertion?
Cheesy Grits is gone but not forgotten
February 19th, 2013
11:05 am
““Obamacare” was originally a Republican idea.”
Not meant to be a factual statement. **
. The mandate for individuals or employers to buy health insurance had been the Republican solution to the giant problem of health-care access since the late 1980s, and actually further back than that: to President Nixon’s address to Congress in 1973 when he outlined a bill to require all U.S. employers to buy private insurance for their employees. When Nixon resigned, President Ford took up the cause and pleaded with Congress to pass the bill.
It most certainly was.
Granny Godzilla
February 19th, 2013
11:05 am
Steve-USA (I don’t have all the answer’s, I don’t even know all the questions)
February 19th, 2013
10:59 am
“Kam – 9:38 – golf … the new teleprompter”
I wonder why? I couldn’t be because Liberal’s went crazy when Bush was Golfing. Somehow Golf was evil in the prior administration. Hypocrite’s
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CORRECTION
We were disgusted after he made a big deal about claiming to give up golf beause o’ the troops
and got caught on the golf course.
Or have you forgotten that little tidbit?
skipper
February 19th, 2013
11:05 am
Eliminate EDP (for one) which has morphed into a monster bigger than its creator. Closing down the entire coal industry (look at how much tax revenue Ga. Power generates in Georgia.) All that will be lost, and will have to be made up for. Oh, I forgot….Al “Lockbokth” (lispertarian for “lockbox”) says it ain’t good…….so to hell with coal! Cutting off the cash cow while $ is tight………….
Cheesy Grits is gone but not forgotten
February 19th, 2013
11:05 am
” Its a fact that Christians give more to charity and volunteer more of their time than anyone else in this country
Total BS
USinUK - former Girl Scout
February 19th, 2013
11:06 am
“I wonder why? I couldn’t be because Liberal’s went crazy when Bush was Golfing. Somehow Golf was evil in the prior administration. Hypocrite’s”
hypocrite’s … what?
frankly, I could have cared less that W was out playing golf or mountain biking – presidents have a stressful job and should be able to unwind for their own health … the disgust with W was about how he followed a serious question about terrorism (and the deaths of our servicemen) with a canned non-response and a “now, watch this drive” …
mm
February 19th, 2013
11:06 am
“The House pushed this to the Senate to act first since they really haven’t done anything in forever.”
Oh, please. Boehner doesn’t want to be blamed for naming the cuts.
SouthernGent
February 19th, 2013
11:06 am
This is great reading. Here we have Jay and his merry band of idiot liberals blaming the effects that sequester may have on the Republicans who did not want sequester. All the while avoiding the real problem which is that Obummer and the Senate want nothing to do with lawfully mandated budgeting process. If Obummer and the demorats really wanted their social program budget, they wold be presenting a realistic budget. Obummer’s last attempt did not even get support from the most left winged of the demoratic party. Bunch of idiots lead by the incompetent one!
Cosby
February 19th, 2013
11:07 am
Ahh…here we go again…hate the GOP it is all their fault..first, The King proposed the Sequester to recveive yet another debt increase and has done nothing to propose a sound physical policy. Second, just like the Physical Cliff..the one liner news media fails to explain exactly what would happen and any real facts. Doing a little research, it will not entirely shut down the government and in fact only cuts the budget by less than 2%…The King and his prince – Harry – have failed to pass, promote or otherwise any serious budget in 4 years…but hey..those damn Republicans will not give The king an unlimited check book…but wait..has he not spent over a trillion dollars a year and for what?? But those damn Republicans…wonder what is going to happen when the bill comes due and those evil rish people have left the country…but those damn Republicans!!1
AmericaShrugged
February 19th, 2013
11:07 am
Cheesy – We can’t tax our way to a balanced budget either as has been demonstrated on this post many times. If all the rich were taxed at 100% we’d still have a deficit! That’s how out of hand the spending has gotten.
I’d love for everyone to have a great education, a beautiful home, delicous food and world class health care. Who’s against that? What the libs generally forget/ignore is we do not produce enough to provide that for everyone.
Greece did not get in the mess it’s in because of austerity. Just the opposite. It got in the mess because it promised generous early retirements and lots of other social programs that it could only pay for through deficit financing. Eventually the debt became so outrageous creditors stopped lending.
Conservatives are concerned that we are on that same path. So we strongly suggest that those who want the house, education, and health care go to work and earn it!
Peadawg
February 19th, 2013
11:08 am
“Its a fact that Christians give more to charity and volunteer more of their time than anyone else in this country”
I’m sure you have a link to back that up.
USinUK - former Girl Scout
February 19th, 2013
11:08 am
“I don’t think he taught us that the government should take care of us.”
considering in Jesus’s time, he would have been referring to the Romans, actually he probably did:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ExWfh6sGyso
Granny Godzilla
February 19th, 2013
11:08 am
Southern Gent and Cosby
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snicker
Christian Conservative
February 19th, 2013
11:08 am
Cheesy Grits is gone but not forgotten
Total BS
Total lack of logic…
Robert
February 19th, 2013
11:09 am
If the US Congress, Senate and the Executive Branch can not compromise I hope the American People remember to vote in record numbers during the 2014 midterm elections. The American People should not be held as political hostages over spending cuts nobody really wants or cares about.
Christian Conservative
February 19th, 2013
11:09 am
Cheesy Grits is gone but not forgotten
http://philanthropy.com/article/FaithGiving/133611/
Steve-USA (I don't have all the answer's, I don't even know all the questions)
February 19th, 2013
11:11 am
CORRECTION
We were disgusted after he made a big deal about claiming to give up golf beause o’ the troops
and got caught on the golf course.
Or have you forgotten that little tidbit?
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Classic Strawman…that would like bringing up Obama said he wouldn’t stop working until the economy recovered.
POTUS is just trying to get away from the wife to have a smoke and eat some unhealthy food. Let the guy have some relaxation time. He doesn’t care if the press is pissed…he has had his last election.
Cheesy Grits is gone but not forgotten
February 19th, 2013
11:11 am
This is great reading. Here we have Jay and his merry band of idiot liberals blaming the effects that sequester may have on the Republicans who did not want sequester. All the while avoiding the real problem which is that Obummer and the Senate want nothing to do with lawfully mandated budgeting process. If Obummer and the demorats really wanted their social program budget, they wold be presenting a realistic budget. Obummer’s last attempt did not even get support from the most left winged of the demoratic party. Bunch of idiots lead by the incompetent one!
And another genius has emerged.
TaxPayer
February 19th, 2013
11:11 am
The mind numbing liberal logic… So it’s the Republicans fault that the middle class and seniors are beginning to suffer because of obamacare???
Republicans are the ones that want to eliminate Medicare and Medicaid and Social Security, etc. Or as Norquist likes to state it, make it small enough where he can drown it in a bath tub. So yes, itchy, Republicans are at fault for making the middle class and seniors suffer now and if they have their way, Republicans will gladly make even more people suffer even more. You know, that takers and makers thing that they love to talk about.
USinUK - former Girl Scout
February 19th, 2013
11:12 am
CC – 11:09 – all your link does is talk about how different regions donate to religious vs. non-religious charities … not whether religious people donate more.
Butch Cassidy (I)
February 19th, 2013
11:12 am
Southerngent – “Bunch of idiots lead by the incompetent one!”
Hey now, those people had every right to support Mitt Romney in the last election.
Peadawg
February 19th, 2013
11:12 am
USinUK – former Girl Scout
February 19th, 2013
11:12 am
You beat me to it.
Recon 0311 2533
February 19th, 2013
11:13 am
“That’s what you really want, isn’t it?”
A bit of ASSume there. What I really want is to see this nation get our financial health together and preserve S.S. and Medicare for future generations. The track we’re on is financially unsustainable and that includes sustaining entitlements. It’s indeed amazing the left doesn’t understand it or maybe they do and figure the masses can continue being duped for political gain.
USinUK - former Girl Scout
February 19th, 2013
11:13 am
Peadawg – you owe me a coke
Moderate Line
February 19th, 2013
11:14 am
Jay
February 19th, 2013
10:32 am
Not just Facebook, Peadawg. How about this one, from the company that brought us the Triumph cruise:
“The Carnival Corporation wouldn’t have much of a business without help from various branches of the government. The United States Coast Guard keeps the seas safe for Carnival’s cruise ships. Customs officers make it possible for Carnival cruises to travel to other countries. State and local governments have built roads and bridges leading up to the ports where Carnival’s ships dock.
But Carnival’s biggest government benefit of all may be the price it pays for many of those services. Over the last five years, the company has paid total corporate taxes — federal, state, local and foreign — equal to only 1.1 percent of its cumulative $11.3 billion in profits. Thanks to an obscure loophole in the tax code, Carnival can legally avoid most taxes. “
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What about all the airlines? The TSA agents that will be furloughed. Longer lines.
barking frog
February 19th, 2013
11:14 am
I am not a genius but it does not take one to recognize
that the President cannot create law but only administer
law created by Congress. He is not responsible for any
spending created by Congress.
Cheesy Grits is gone but not forgotten
February 19th, 2013
11:14 am
Christian Conservanut
http://www.patheos.com/blogs/friendlyatheist/2013/01/25/this-just-in-religion-doesnt-make-you-more-generous/
http://www.sott.net/article/258011-Busting-the-myth-that-Christians-are-more-generous-than-non-believers
WrteStufLA
February 19th, 2013
11:14 am
Lyin’ Paul Ryan epitomizes what I call a “Münchausen Republican” — those Republicans who deliberately poison our fiscal health so that they can then impose their latest trickle-down “antidote,” which always includes dismantling important safety nets like Medicare, Medicaid and Social Security.
Granny Godzilla
February 19th, 2013
11:15 am
Steve-USA (I don’t have all the answer’s, I don’t even know all the questions)
February 19th, 2013
11:11 am
CORRECTION
We were disgusted after he made a big deal about claiming to give up golf beause o’ the troops
and got caught on the golf course.
Or have you forgotten that little tidbit?
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Classic Strawman…that would like bringing up Obama said he wouldn’t stop working until the economy recovered.
POTUS is just trying to get away from the wife to have a smoke and eat some unhealthy food. Let the guy have some relaxation time. He doesn’t care if the press is pissed…he has had his last election.
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. Ah, nope no strawman there, don’t be goofy….but I see you added some fantasy….
комиссар (Occupation)
February 19th, 2013
11:15 am
barking frog: “Party politics is the only game in play.”
“There are only two players in U.S. politics. Democrats
and Republicans. That will remain for a long time to come.”
I understand that very well. But unlike you, I am of the view that when the two parties move closer together, or as in this case, when one party moves towards the extreme of one side of the spectrum, as the GOP is now doing in moving to the far right, while the Democrats move towards the right as well, just in more moderate form, that is just as important to be vigilant about, if not more so.
Just look at all the policy areas that never even came up for open debate during the election: security state, drones, presidential power, the need for widespread loan forgiving to relieve debt loads. The two parties are arm-in-arm in opposition to all of these things.
So the corrupting and undemocratic role of the two party system is a reason to ask MORE questions and to demand MORE from both parties, not a reason to be more resigned.
willie lynch
February 19th, 2013
11:17 am
How many of you who have clamored for these spending cuts actually support this sequestration?
TaxPayer
February 19th, 2013
11:19 am
I would not doubt that “Christians” take more tax deductions for their so-called “charitable contributions” that any other group. It’s the charitable thing to do I suppose.
Fred ™
February 19th, 2013
11:19 am
Escaped from eMail purgatory – I have posted here for over four years now. It was much more enjoyable back then as lately it has become infected with hard left regulars who, as I have posted before, would defend Obama if he crapped on the Resolute Desk while on National TV.
The only answers you will find here is how looney the Left has become.
As for me, I enjoy kicking the ant hill.
As an independent, the hypocrisy of this whole post is typical of the far right wing fanatics who post here. There is zero in the ideas or solutions department, but a whole buttload of generalization in the stupid department and the needle is pegged in the hypocrisy department.
JR would stone Jesus Christ himself if he were running as a Democrat or said something positive about a Democratic candidate. If President Obama announce that Jesus was coming back, JR would instantly start worship Satan.
getalife
February 19th, 2013
11:19 am
Surrender or be annihilated gop.
F. Sinkwich
February 19th, 2013
11:21 am
O’bozo has weighed in again today:
” “These cuts are not smart, they are not fair, they will hurt our economy, they will add hundreds of thousands of Americans to the unemployment rolls,” Obama insisted.”
Hey doofuss, then why did you sign the bill into law?
Scooter
February 19th, 2013
11:21 am
So, is everybody going to sacrifice to get our fiscal house in order… or is it just the top 2 – 5 percent of income earners? One thing is for sure, Jay Bookman will always deflect the blame onto republicrats and work to ensure the majority is “secure” through funding from the minority, just like a true democrat.
Keep Up the Good Fight!
February 19th, 2013
11:22 am
the hypocrisy of this whole post is typical of the far right wing fanatics who post here. There is zero in the ideas or solutions department, but a whole buttload of generalization in the stupid department and the needle is pegged in the hypocrisy department.
Fred, I would trademark that one! And add Rinse, Repeat. The Russian gives it a 10!
Steve-USA (I don't have all the answer's, I don't even know all the questions)
February 19th, 2013
11:24 am
Cheesy Grits@11:14
Those had to be the 2 worst links I have ever seen to support an argument. That would be like using Rush Limbaugh as a source on how Obama is doing.
That had to have been a joke.:)
Fred ™
February 19th, 2013
11:25 am
And here we go with the idiot “GREECE” references again. UIn what world has Greece been politically or economically relevant in the last 2500 years? Their main contributions to the worldwide economy are as a tourist destination and the production of ox dung.
Granny Godzilla
February 19th, 2013
11:25 am
“Hey doofuss, then why did you sign the bill into law?”
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To hoist the GOP by their own petard?
barking frog
February 19th, 2013
11:25 am
Commisar
Glad you understand. The movement of the parties is
due to the members of the parties which reflects the
members beliefs and cannot be easily questioned
or addressed.
Keep Up the Good Fight!
February 19th, 2013
11:26 am
Sinkie only listened to part of the speech…..
The Truth
February 19th, 2013
11:26 am
Republicans don’t care about spending cuts. These chickenhawk$ freak out about cuts in the Pentagon, but they don’t acknowledge that we spent 700 billion plus dollars (close to three quarters of a trillion dollars) in 2011 (in one year!) on defense which is more than the next 11 countries COMBINED which includes Russia AND China. Keep in mind that some on these 11 countries are our ALLIES. Nope, the Cons are HYPOCRITES when it comes to cutting the deficit. But I guess we already knew that…
USinUK - former Girl Scout
February 19th, 2013
11:26 am
Fred – 11:25 – olive oil, baby … liquid gold, I tells ya
St Simons - he-ne-ha
February 19th, 2013
11:26 am
fake Christian Conservative
don’t comment…”
Just pointing out your ignorance…..
just pointing out what a hypocrite fake ‘christian’ looks like
in case anybody was considering that religion –
there’s your shining example right there.
What an example you’ve set – congratulations
and the black guys still president, after your trolling
and pull your pants up son, you look stupid like like that
Butch Cassidy (I)
February 19th, 2013
11:26 am
F.Sinkwich – “Hey doofuss, then why did you sign the bill into law?”
Becuase he thought that the Republicans were smarter than they turned out to be.
Fred ™
February 19th, 2013
11:28 am
Thank you Keep. I’ll be here all week (maybe). Don’t forget to tip the wait staff………
Uh Huh.......The GOP are like angels dancing on the head of a pin
February 19th, 2013
11:28 am
@Christian Conservative
February 19th, 2013
11:01 am
Lets have an honest debate. If the sequester comes it will have absolutely no effect on me and my family. So that’s why I’m for it because we must stop spending money we don’t have….
Its amusing reading what those on the left think about Christ. I don’t think he taught us that the government should take care of us. The church and the people in it should take care of those in need. Its a fact that Christians give more to charity and volunteer more of their time than anyone else in this country yet you people on the left want to leave it to the government.. Its sad really….
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HE TAUGHT US THIS:
Acts 20:35
In all things I have shown you that by working hard in this way we must help the weak and remember the words of the Lord Jesus, how he himself said, ‘It is more blessed to give than to receive.’”
Proverbs 19:17
Whoever is generous to the poor lends to the Lord, and he will repay him for his deed.
Matthew 25:35-40
For I was hungry and you gave me food, I was thirsty and you gave me drink, I was a stranger and you welcomed me, I was naked and you clothed me, I was sick and you visited me, I was in prison and you came to me.’ Then the righteous will answer him, saying, ‘Lord, when did we see you hungry and feed you, or thirsty and give you drink? And when did we see you a stranger and welcome you, or naked and clothe you? And when did we see you sick or in prison and visit you?’ …
Galatians 6:2
Bear one another’s burdens, and so fulfill the law of Christ.
Deuteronomy 15:11
For there will never cease to be poor in the land. Therefore I command you, ‘You shall open wide your hand to your brother, to the needy and to the poor, in your land.’
Matthew 5:42
Give to the one who begs from you, and do not refuse the one who would borrow from you.
Luke 6:38
Give, and it will be given to you. Good measure, pressed down, shaken together, running over, will be put into your lap. For with the measure you use it will be measured back to you.”
Proverbs 14:31
Whoever oppresses a poor man insults his Maker, but he who is generous to the needy honors him.
Jay
February 19th, 2013
11:28 am
Hey doofuss, then why did you sign the bill into law?
Because otherwise, the House Republicans would have refused to raise the debt limit, forcing a default and leading to massive economic disruption.
That is why.
Progressive, Liberal, Lefty
February 19th, 2013
11:29 am
“Christian-Conservative”=oxy moron.
This is all BS. Pure politics. There’s not a chance in hell that any of the obstructionists tea-publicans really give a damn about spending or taxes or anything else. This is an effort to denigrate the President. That’s what it is, that’s all it is. Same with the teabags who post on this blog. They’ll never convince me that their motives are anything less than unadulterated evil.
Tim
February 19th, 2013
11:29 am
as the republican conservatives go sailing off into the sunset the American people rejoice at their demise.Good riddance to the southern disease of intolerance and stupidity.This will be tough on a lot of folks but the republican will rejoice in their pain.After all thats what republican conservatives do is take pleasure in their hoards of gold despite the fact that they stole everything they have from poor people who do the real work..When you die can it come with you?Still come 2014 despite all the gerrymandering it will be a great day to see you and your ilk go down the crapper.There you can wrestle around with each other trying to find that last quarter.You will like that won’t you?
getalife
February 19th, 2013
11:29 am
Cue the gop are weak on national security ads.
GT
February 19th, 2013
11:30 am
Southerngent the Republicans always end in the same place no matter the movement of their lips. This is why you will soon not have a GOP any more. You can only live on lies so long. Is there one thing you think your party has done wrong? Maybe this is your biggest lie, you are never wrong in your own mind. I can tell you I don’t like our policy on Wall Street of letting big banks off the hook criminally and having a license to break the law. Now surely there is something you can find wrong with your party.
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
February 19th, 2013
11:30 am
“But the idea that liberals give more is a myth. Of the top 25 states where people give an above-average percentage of their income, all but one (Maryland) were red — conservative — states in the last presidential election.”
“When you look at the data,” says Syracuse University professor Arthur Brooks, “it turns out the conservatives give about 30 percent more. And incidentally, conservative-headed families make slightly less money.”
http://townhall.com/columnists/johnstossel/2006/12/06/who_gives_to_charity/page/full/
barking frog
February 19th, 2013
11:30 am
Allowing tax deductions for religious contributions is
a violation of the separation of church and state as it
allows the IRS to regulate the involvement of churches
in politics.
Christian Conservative
February 19th, 2013
11:30 am
Peadawg
February 19th, 2013
11:08 am
“Its a fact that Christians give more to charity and volunteer more of their time than anyone else in this country”
I’m sure you have a link to back that up.
I’m sure you have a link to refute my claim.
Use logic man!!
Keyser Soze
February 19th, 2013
11:31 am
“To hoist the GOP by their own petard?”
“Becuase he thought that the Republicans were smarter than they turned out to be”
So, it’s the President’s job to try and embarrass and eliminate the opposing party? Awesome!!
Christian Conservative
February 19th, 2013
11:32 am
barking frog
Allowing tax deductions for religious contributions is
a violation of the separation of church and state as it
allows the IRS to regulate the involvement of churches
in politics.
You should take that up with your elected representatives if you don’t like it….
Gator Joe
February 19th, 2013
11:32 am
Jay:
The silver lining in this sequester cloud is that some of the pain will be experienced by Wall Street and Big Business (especially defense contractors). The loudest wails will come from these fat cats when the damage from the Republican scorched earth, no-compromise response to the sequester damages the economy.
Butch Cassidy (I)
February 19th, 2013
11:33 am
Christian Conservative – “I’m sure you have a link to refute my claim.
Use logic man!!”
Uhhhh…. you do realize that you made the claim. Therefore, it is your place to defend it. Or did you not learn that in your home schooling?
St Simons - he-ne-ha
February 19th, 2013
11:34 am
I have hurt the cons with accounting facts. It happens. A lot
Their fantasy world comes crashing down.
You should have seen the porn stash fund I had to report
at the First Church of the Jaysus Hypocrites.
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
February 19th, 2013
11:34 am
“Christians and Conservatives Give More to Charity, ABC Says”
“People of faith give far more to charities than non-religious people, and conservatives give more to the poor than do liberals. That’s the finding of a study by author Arthur Brooks and the conclusion trumpeted by a John Stossel report on ABC 20/20 this week.”
http://therooftopblog.wordpress.com/2006/12/01/christians-and-conservatives-give-more-to-charity-abc-says/
Butch Cassidy (I)
February 19th, 2013
11:35 am
Keyser Soze – “So, it’s the President’s job to try and embarrass and eliminate the opposing party? Awesome!!”
Is this your first visit to the political arena skippy?
Jm
February 19th, 2013
11:36 am
“What happens to government services when we implement just a fraction of the massive spending cuts that the GOP is demanding? What happens to the economy when federal spending falls by a relatively minor $85 billion between March and the end of the fiscal year in October?”
“You’d be amazed by the amount of the government you wouldn’t miss.” – Mitch Daniels
Fred ™
February 19th, 2013
11:36 am
USinUK: Italian is better.
OK so I DO use the Greek stuff lol. I substituted ox dung because it’s funnier. Actually Greece’s main industry, shipping, outstrips it’s Olive oil exports I think. They have the largest merchant marine fleet in the world. But still to compare their weak ass economy to the US is ludicrous. They don’t even have 1/4 the economy of the State of California, much less the rest of the US. Hell they would rank 16th as a State in the US right behind that powerhouse state Maryland.
Yeah, let’s compare the US economy to Greece. It works if you are an IDIOT FOXBOT.
Christian Conservative
February 19th, 2013
11:36 am
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801:
Throwing facts at liberals is useless. It could be right in front of their face and they would still either not believe it or ignore it… They are a sad group of people…
USinUK - former Girl Scout
February 19th, 2013
11:37 am
““Actually, the truth is that they’re giving to more than their churches,” he says.”
which makes me wonder what would happen if you took churches out of the equation.
DownInAlbany
February 19th, 2013
11:39 am
Jay
February 19th, 2013
11:28 am
Got a link for that? or are you just making stuff up?
USinUK - former Girl Scout
February 19th, 2013
11:39 am
Fred – 11:36 – agree – Italian is better … at olive oil and many other things
Butch Cassidy (I)
February 19th, 2013
11:40 am
Christian Conservative – ” It could be right in front of their face and they would still either not believe it or ignore it… They are a sad group of people…”
I’d say that’s a harsh way to describe Fox News viewers.
Christian Conservative
February 19th, 2013
11:40 am
USinUK – former Girl Scout
““Actually, the truth is that they’re giving to more than their churches,” he says.”
which makes me wonder what would happen if you took churches out of the equation.
Actually the debate is Christians feel their money is put to use more wisely by giving to charity’s and churches instead of the government. Stay on task…
USinUK - former Girl Scout
February 19th, 2013
11:40 am
Butch – 11:35 – I thought it was a perque, not a job description
barking frog
February 19th, 2013
11:41 am
Christian Conservative
You should take that up with your elected representatives if you don’t like it….
………………………………………………………………………….
I have but the stupid greedy church members want to give up their
freedom for a minor reduction in taxes. Go figure.
willie lynch
February 19th, 2013
11:41 am
I’ve been amazed all along at the ridiculous approach of the GOP concerning the economy from the very beginning. If you’re in a depressed economy how do you then proceed to cut services and in turn jobs? They have been obsessed with privatizing the government services (medicare, medicaid and SS) since “W” came into office and they still have the same short-sighted game plan .
Ryan has been debunked, yet they still hold him out as their great hope to craft legislation. Without increased spending otherwise known as the jobs bill, the country will continue to grow slowly and if we follow this foolishness the GOP is hanging their hat on we will sink back to 2008 all over again.
But in simpler terms why are we even listening to the losers?
Jefferson
February 19th, 2013
11:41 am
So who has gov’t spending hurt ?
Itchy Finger
February 19th, 2013
11:41 am
CC
USinUK – former Girl Scout
““Actually, the truth is that they’re giving to more than their churches,” he says.”
which makes me wonder what would happen if you took churches out of the equation.
Actually the debate is Christians feel their money is put to use more wisely by giving to charity’s and churches instead of the government. Stay on task…
Chasing rabbits… That’s just what they do….
USinUK - former Girl Scout
February 19th, 2013
11:42 am
“Actually the debate is Christians feel their money is put to use more wisely by giving to charity’s and churches instead of the government. Stay on task…”
no – you were the one who stated that Christians were more charitable than liberals – stay on task, yourself, buddy.
Butch Cassidy (I)
February 19th, 2013
11:43 am
DowninAlbany – “Got a link for that? or are you just making stuff up?”
Whose sequester?
In the debate, Obama said he didn’t propose sequestration, Congress did. (We asked the White House for comment, but didn’t hear back.)
To determine the question of ownership, we turned to Washington Post reporter Bob Woodward’s new book The Price of Politics.
Woodward’s reporting shows clearly that defense sequestration was an idea that came out of Obama’s White House. But the intention was to force Republicans to negotiate, not to actually put the cuts into effect.
Woodward summarizes the thoughts of the Obama team: “There would be no chance the Republicans would want to pull the trigger and allow the sequester to force massive cuts to Defense.” Democrats, meanwhile, didn’t want to see their favorite domestic programs cut.
As the negotiations proceeded, Republicans seemed to think the same thing.
“Boehner told the House Republican leadership and other key members not to worry about the sequester … ‘Guys, this would be devastating to Defense,’ he said. ‘This would be devastating, from their perspective, on their domestic priorities. This is never going to happen,’” Woodward wrote.
Nonetheless, sequestration is now looming.
TaxPayer
February 19th, 2013
11:43 am
“Hey doofuss, then why did you sign the bill into law?”
Obama had heard that Jindal said that the GOP had to stop being the stupid party and so Obama just wanted to find out if the GOP listened to Jindal. Apparently not.
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
February 19th, 2013
11:43 am
“Actually the debate is Christians feel their money is put to use more wisely by giving to charity’s and churches instead of the government. Stay on task…”
And a lot of money that goes to churches is done simply to funnel it out from there to charities chosen by the church.
That’s what ours does ……… and makes sure our money is VERY wisely spent as opposed to throwing it down the government trough with all of the overhead, waste, fraud and abuse !!!
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
February 19th, 2013
11:44 am
Are you libs. still ignoring those studies I posted ??
Uh Huh.......The GOP are like angels dancing on the head of a pin
February 19th, 2013
11:44 am
@Christian Conservative
February 19th, 2013
11:01 am
Its amusing reading what those on the left think about Christ. I don’t think he taught us that the government should take care of us. The church and the people in it should take care of those in need. Its a fact that Christians give more to charity and volunteer more of their time than anyone else in this country yet you people on the left want to leave it to the government.. Its sad really….
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Giving differences (to charities) do not disappear when income is neutralized.
Furthermore, research on philanthropy has consistently shown that the POOR tend to give more frequently — and a higher percentage of their incomes — than the MIDDLE CLASS.
For example, economist Charles Clotfelter and others have shown that the poor tend to give a proportion of their income to charity that is comparable to the giving proportion of the very wealthy — and nearly twice that of the middle class. This seems to be true only for the working poor.
Uh Huh
getalife
February 19th, 2013
11:45 am
I think the turtle will cut a deal again.
Oscar
February 19th, 2013
11:45 am
Sequester – Odd name for a spending cut. Sounds very official. And clinical. Something no one could be blamed for. It’s not a cut, it’s a sequester.
curious
February 19th, 2013
11:46 am
This reminds me of the rich making a big production of how much they put in the collection plate and how little the poor put in.
Based on several posts, we can now substitute conservative for rich and liberal for poor.
F. Sinkwich
February 19th, 2013
11:47 am
“Because otherwise, the House Republicans would have refused to raise the debt limit, forcing a default and leading to massive economic disruption.”
Poor widdle Barry. Those meanies made him do it…
Christian Conservative
February 19th, 2013
11:49 am
USinUK – former Girl Scout
February 19th, 2013
11:42 am
“Actually the debate is Christians feel their money is put to use more wisely by giving to charity’s and churches instead of the government. Stay on task…”
no – you were the one who stated that Christians were more charitable than liberals – stay on task, yourself, buddy.
I stated an obvious fact when called on it… And. I’m not your buddy….
Fred ™
February 19th, 2013
11:49 am
USinUK: Off topic briefly: What brand of olive oil do you use? i’ll bet you have access to more than we do here. My Greek neighbor turned me on to a great one. I can’t remember the name lol, and I threw away the container, but he said it’s the best he’s had since he left Greece where they pressed their own. Before tasting his, I never knew it had flavor. I had only had the cheap crappy super market kind. Now I’ve become a bit of a snob about it. I use it in everything, as you put it, I put in a few good glugs………
When I find the brand I’ll let you know.
Oscar
February 19th, 2013
11:49 am
Across the board cuts are always a bad idea. Some progams need cutting more than others. Some need increasing. People should be willing to sit down and make those decisions. That is what they are electted to do.
Mke cuts, but make them where they should be made.
barking frog
February 19th, 2013
11:50 am
0311
That’s what ours does ……… and makes sure our money is VERY wisely spent as opposed to throwing it down the government trough with all of the overhead, waste, fraud and abuse !!!
……………………………………………………………………………………………..
and for that you give up the ability of your Church to participate as
an organization in politics which is unlimited for all for profit
corporate bodies.
Doggone/GA
February 19th, 2013
11:50 am
“” Its a fact that Christians give more to charity and volunteer more of their time than anyone else in this country”
And that has NOTHING whatsoever to do with the fact that Christians FAR outnumber any other religious, or non-religious group.
Keep Up the Good Fight!
February 19th, 2013
11:51 am
Are you libs. [sic] still ignoring those studies I posted ??
You cut and pasted some nonsense. How surprising.
But yes, we ignore them for the most part. See Box 26. 
USinUK - former Girl Scout
February 19th, 2013
11:51 am
“DowninAlbany”
totally off-topic, but every time I read this handle as “Downton Albany” … which means I hear his posts in a Mr Carson voice
Paul
February 19th, 2013
11:51 am
I stopped skimming, was looking for an explanation of
Spkr Boehner says ‘no compromise.’
Other Republicans say “President’s proposals are dead on arrival.’
Sequester comes up.
Republicans say “But the President SUGGESTED it… we HAD to adopt it….. it’s HIS fault!”
Do I have that right?
getalife
February 19th, 2013
11:51 am
“USinUK: Italian is better. ”
Sicilians are better.
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
February 19th, 2013
11:52 am
“and for that you give up the ability of your Church to participate as
an organization in politics which is unlimited for all for profit
corporate bodies.”
Nope. Right now many churches are trying to get a court case going on just that subject and the IRS/government is looking the other way because they know they will probably lose.
Even the pulpit has “free speech” !!!
alex
February 19th, 2013
11:52 am
I think cuts in defense should be part of the discussion, along with SS, Medicare, etc. The economist has suggested eliminating the interest deduction of home mortgages and of course stopping company and personal tax dodging….
Peadawg
February 19th, 2013
11:53 am
“I’m sure you have a link to refute my claim.”
That’s not how it works on here. YOU make a claim YOU back it up.
getalife
February 19th, 2013
11:53 am
Paul,
Nailed it.
I think the turtle will cut another deal on this and the debt limit.
Looney Bin
February 19th, 2013
11:53 am
So funny – “King”, “Emperor”, “Exalted One”, “Chosen One”…all phrases applied to our President by our Righty leaning posters here.
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
February 19th, 2013
11:53 am
Christian Conservative :
Isn’t it halarious (sad really) that your liberal accusers on here have gone silent after I posted those studies (especially the one by ABC) on your behalf ?
Butch Cassidy (I)
February 19th, 2013
11:54 am
F. Sinkwich – “Poor widdle Barry. Those meanies made him do it…”
Poor widdle Republicans, mean old Barry made them agree to it.
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
February 19th, 2013
11:54 am
Ignorance in face of the bold truth is no excuse !
Uh Huh.......The GOP are like angels dancing on the head of a pin
February 19th, 2013
11:54 am
@0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
February 19th, 2013
11:43 am
“Actually the debate is Christians feel their money is put to use more wisely by giving to charity’s and churches instead of the government. Stay on task…”
And a lot of money that goes to churches is done simply to funnel it out from there to charities chosen by the church.
That’s what ours does ……… and makes sure our money is VERY wisely spent as opposed to throwing it down the government trough with all of the overhead, waste, fraud and abuse !!!
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
“That’s what ours does ……… and makes sure our money is VERY wisely spent as opposed to throwing it down the government trough with all of the overhead, waste, fraud and abuse !!!”
Religious Financial Fraud
The $34 Billion Scandal
The International Bulletin of Missionary Research reported that Christian religious leaders will commit an estimated $34 billion in financial fraud.
Researchers from the Center for the Study of Global Christianity estimate that Christian religious leaders will commit $90 million in financial crimes daily and the fraud is growing at a rate of 5.97% each year.
If the researchers are correct, religious financial fraud among Christians will almost double in 14 years to $60 billion annually by 2025.
Dr. David Barrett, the first editor of the World Christian Encyclopedia and a researcher for the Center, has been studying religious financial fraud for more than 20 years. According to Dr. Todd Johnson, the Center’s director, these statistics were the result of Barrett “developing a balance sheet for global Christianity.” Barrett was “trying to understand the totality of Christian finance.”
Uh Huh
USinUK - former Girl Scout
February 19th, 2013
11:54 am
“I stated an obvious fact when called on it… And. I’m not your buddy….”
awwwwwww … diddums … why so tense?
barking frog
February 19th, 2013
11:55 am
Has anyone else noticed that Windows 8 is the worst piece
of crap foisted on the computer scene ever, especially the
39.95 upgrade that totally blows Windows 7 ?
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
February 19th, 2013
11:55 am
“Kim Jung Un had NO military experience whatsoever before Daddy made him a four-star general. This snot-nosed twerp had never accomplished anything in his life that would even come close to military leadership. He hadn’t even so much as led a Cub Scout troop, coached a sports team, or commanded a military platoon. So he is made the “Beloved Leader” of North Korea . Terrific!
Oh crap! I’m sorry. I just remembered that we did the same thing. ‘We’ took an arrogant community organizer, who had never worn a uniform, and made him Commander-in-Chief. A guy, who had never had a real job, worked on a budget, or led anything more than an ACORN demonstration, and we made him President of the United States – - – - TWICE !!!”
Paul
February 19th, 2013
11:57 am
0311
““When you look at the data,” says Syracuse University professor Arthur Brooks, “it turns out the conservatives give about 30 percent more. And incidentally, conservative-headed families make slightly less money.””
True enough. But it doesn’t answer ‘why.’ According to Prof Brooks, it comes down to what route people think is appropriate to enact charitable goals. Conservatives tend to view it as nonstate routes – such as a church. Liberals tend to view it as governmental – meaning, all of us in the country working together.
So when calls come for tax increases for social programs, liberals will often say ’sure, that’s how it’s done’ and conservatives scream bloody murder because they think charitable goals is an inappropriate use of government.
Butch Cassidy (I)
February 19th, 2013
11:57 am
UsinUK – former Girl Scout – “awwwwwww … diddums … why so tense?”
He goes by Conservative Christian and you wonder why he’s so tense? Geez, I’m actually amazed that peoole like CC can actually talk without having to poop because their heads are shoved so far up their A**
barking frog
February 19th, 2013
11:58 am
0311
Even the pulpit has “free speech” !!!
…………………………………………….
Not unless it gives up its tax exempt status, thus the
lawsuit to try to have its cake and eat it too.
That Black Guy
February 19th, 2013
11:58 am
Steve
February 19th, 2013
9:47 am
Americans are not going to blame Obama for this, let’s be clear. The GOP controlled House is going to be blamed. – This is part of the problem. The politicians spend more time trying to make sure the “other” party gets the “blame” vs ACTUALLY solving problems.
Americans aren’t as stupid as some of the Confederates in here. – Who are “the Confederates”?
Peadawg
February 19th, 2013
11:59 am
Hey CC, it’s sad that 0311/8541/5811/1811/1801 had to do your work for you and provide a link. Lazy.
Butch Cassidy (I)
February 19th, 2013
11:59 am
0311…… – “Oh crap! I’m sorry. I just remembered that we did the same thing. ‘We’ took an arrogant community organizer, who had never worn a uniform, and made him Commander-in-Chief. A guy, who had never had a real job, worked on a budget, or led anything more than an ACORN demonstration, and we made him President of the United States – – – – TWICE !!!””
So are you mad that Obama is still President, or that he didn’t get the job because of his daddy? Because, afterall, who wants a President that got into office because of his daddy? Oh wait….
Christian Conservative
February 19th, 2013
12:00 pm
Peadawg
“I’m sure you have a link to refute my claim.”
That’s not how it works on here. YOU make a claim YOU back it up.
I did… You may want to scroll back up and educate yourself…
getalife
February 19th, 2013
12:00 pm
scout,
Try posting something credible and folks might respond.
Good luck with that.
Thomas
February 19th, 2013
12:00 pm
Persons in poverty under current administration up 6.4 million.
Folks in poverty have much higher mortality (as many folks die of poverty each year as they do lung cancer)
Simple thoughts for simple blog writers and followers. Folks really loved Bush and similar simple folks really love Obama.
Madmax
February 19th, 2013
12:01 pm
Let’s see Jay – It was Obama’s idea, the majority of Democrats in both housess voted for it and Obama signed it into law and yet in the liberal fantasy worl, it’s the Republicans fault. Only in America – brought to you by the party of malaise and Jimmy Carter. If Obama thought it was a bad idea then, why did he sign it (hint – he was playing politics).
Keep Up the Good Fight!
February 19th, 2013
12:01 pm
uh oh…Senior Digits is checking his daily spam. Now comes the barrage of cut and paste.
Peadawg
February 19th, 2013
12:01 pm
“I did… You may want to scroll back up and educate yourself…”
No, 0311/8541/5811/1811/1801 posted it.
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
February 19th, 2013
12:03 pm
Uh Huh…….The GOP are like angels dancing on the head of a pin :
I hear you and that’s why we are VERY selective in who we support and what we do.
Compared to the government and other charities fraud it’s a drop in the bucket !
barking frog
February 19th, 2013
12:03 pm
It amazes me that no one accepts G.W. Bush at his
word that he attacked Saddam Hussein because
“He tried to kill my Daddy”.
getalife
February 19th, 2013
12:03 pm
frog,
I heard it sux.
Windows 7 is good though.
curious
February 19th, 2013
12:04 pm
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
“Oh crap! I’m sorry. I just remembered that we did the same thing. ‘We’ took an arrogant community organizer, who had never worn a uniform, and made him Commander-in-Chief. A guy, who had never had a real job, worked on a budget, or led anything more than an ACORN demonstration, and we made him President of the United States – – – – TWICE !!!””
We would have voted for you, if you had run for President!
You’re the reason Obama got elected.
USinUK - former Girl Scout
February 19th, 2013
12:05 pm
“Has anyone else noticed that Windows 8 is the worst piece
of crap foisted on the computer scene ever, especially the
39.95 upgrade that totally blows Windows 7 ?”
I dunno, what Vista did to excel should be classified as a war crime …
комиссар (Occupation)
February 19th, 2013
12:05 pm
Jm: “You’d be amazed by the amount of the government you wouldn’t miss.” – Mitch Daniels
Which, translated, really means:
“You’d be amazed by the amount of the government you wouldn’t miss, if you’re a hedge fund manager, or other expert rider of the government-lobbying revolving door, like me” – Mitch Daniels.
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
February 19th, 2013
12:05 pm
barking frog:
“Not unless it gives up its tax exempt status, thus the
lawsuit to try to have its cake and eat it too.”
Exactly ………. and they would probably win ! That’s why the IRS is choosing NOT to try to enforce “their” rules.
Jefferson
February 19th, 2013
12:05 pm
Someone is about stupid to compare any president of the US to the dictator of n korea. They are just throw in chit balls into the fan and likes the smell of chit.
Obama to Turn Up Pressure for Deal on Budget Cuts – New York Times | Android Tablets
February 19th, 2013
12:06 pm
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Uh Huh.......The GOP are like angels dancing on the head of a pin
February 19th, 2013
12:06 pm
@0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
February 19th, 2013
11:53 am
Christian Conservative :
Isn’t it halarious (sad really) that your liberal accusers on here have gone silent after I posted those studies (especially the one by ABC) on your behalf ?
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SILENT?
Matthew 6:1-34
“Beware of practicing your righteousness before other people in order to be seen by them, for then you will have no reward from your Father who is in heaven.
“Thus, when you give to the needy, sound no trumpet before you, as the hypocrites do in the synagogues and in the streets, that they may be praised by others.
Truly, I say to you, they have received their reward. But when you give to the needy, do not let your left hand know what your right hand is doing, so that your giving may be in secret. And your Father who sees in secret will reward you. “And when you pray, you must not be like the hypocrites. For they love to stand and pray in the synagogues and at the street corners, that they may be seen by others. Truly, I say to you, they have received their reward. …
Uh Huh
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
February 19th, 2013
12:06 pm
Paul:
Fair enough.
But the bottom line is Conservatives and Christians give more than liberals and athiests.
Christian Conservative
February 19th, 2013
12:06 pm
Peadawg
Hey CC, it’s sad that 0311/8541/5811/1811/1801 had to do your work for you and provide a link. Lazy.
Christian Conservative
February 19th, 2013
11:09 am
http://philanthropy.com/article/FaithGiving/133611/
Try and keep up….
barking frog
February 19th, 2013
12:07 pm
getalife
Windows 7 is good until you apply the Widows 8
upgrade then not so much and no way to go back
within my limited knowledge.
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
February 19th, 2013
12:07 pm
Jefferson:
Ever hear of hyperbole? Satire? Even comedy?
Check out Luckovich in the AJC …………. he does it all the time but I’m betting you don’t have a problem with it as long as a liberal does it.
Translation:
Hypocrisy !
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
February 19th, 2013
12:09 pm
Uh Huh…….The GOP are like angels dancing on the head of a pin :
Thank you. Good verses !!!
By the way ………. you don’t know who I am or how much I give.
Only God does.
P.S.
Do you believe the miracles that Jesus did in feeding the thousands from just mere small baskets of food ?
That Black Guy
February 19th, 2013
12:10 pm
Steve
February 19th, 2013
9:56 am
As soon as someone blames gas prices on Obama you immediately know that they probably never made it past sophomore year in a rural high school.
_____________________________________________________
Did you say that when Bush was blamed for high gas prices by democrats?
http://www.democrats.com/gas
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z9Oek6ZboAI
Christian Conservative
February 19th, 2013
12:10 pm
Butch Cassidy (I)
He goes by Conservative Christian and you wonder why he’s so tense? Geez, I’m actually amazed that peoole like CC can actually talk without having to poop because their heads are shoved so far up their A**
Thanks for joining the debate and pointing out your well below average intelligence…
Dekalb comments
February 19th, 2013
12:10 pm
The sad thing is we continue to play the “blame game”.
At my company when I joined a cross-functional team that was consistently missing deadlines and objectives, I observed the “blame game”. It was always some other department’s fault. I changed that by establishing clearly-defined responsibilities and requiring commitments of them. We learned to focus on the objective and to compromise. Since then we have improved overall performance by over 80%.
The analogy to politics isn’t 1:1 but is appropriate. Regardless of who did what, we are in a situation in which significant automatic cuts will take place in less than 2 weeks. Most economists agree these cuts would wreak havoc on a fragile economy and possibly send us back into recession.
So what do we do? We have one side that believes only in cuts (without being willing to plug revenue holes such as subsidies to enormously profitable industries such as oil and gas) or consider other ways to increase revenue, the other side believes we can make targeted cuts to defense, etc. but wants to preserve social programs while increasing revenues.
Neither of these positions, by themselves, are viable. We need to begin to carefully draw down the deficit and that is going to require not only reductions in expenditures with EVERYTHING except Medicare and Social Security on the line as well as raise revenues through (a) growing the economy (and no that is not achieved by cutting taxes on corporations and the wealthy – that is well documented), (b) plug loopholes and eliminate tax giveaways to those that no longer need them and (c) selectively INCREASE taxes in a number of areas.
We will never cut our way out of the deficit. Look at what austerity has done to Europe. It has driven them into recession. What does that mean? More unemployment, fewer people paying taxes, etc. This is a downward death spiral.
Any attempt to “right the boat” must include a combination of smart, targeted cuts to expenditure as well as smartly increasing revenues through elimination of wasteful subsidies and loopholes and selectively increasing taxes.
We were in a surplus when Clinton left office. Bush and his two unfunded wars, unfunded senior RX plan and unfunded tax cuts that disproportionately benefitted the wealthy, reversed that historic trend.
getalife
February 19th, 2013
12:10 pm
frog,
You might have to wipe out your hard drive and install 7.
Vista sux too.
I still run XP until they stop doing updates.
barking frog
February 19th, 2013
12:11 pm
USinUK
I dunno, what Vista did to excel should be classified as a war crime …
I thought Vista was the worst they could do but they have surpassed
themselves with windows 8.
Itchy Finger
February 19th, 2013
12:12 pm
That Black Guy:
You better get back on the plantation!!!
F. Sinkwich
February 19th, 2013
12:12 pm
Even with the sequester government spending will increase, so no credence can be given to the Chicken Littles like the MSM and O’bozo.
And if Mr. Save-the-Planet has a problem with it, where is his proposal?
Morality?
February 19th, 2013
12:13 pm
It’s obvious that Obama is a ta and spend Socialist. He has no intention of going against his financial supporters on the Socialist left – no intention of reducing the Dem’s socialist social programs. Indeed – his intent is to EXPAND the Socialist social programs like all Dems do. Obama has no intention of reducing the Fed debt……. he has no intention of EVER presenting a budget. Obama can’t be trusted.
barking frog
February 19th, 2013
12:13 pm
getalife
If I had an updated Windows 7, I would but factory
reinstall would require multi updates.
getalife
February 19th, 2013
12:15 pm
filky,
Your turtle will cave again.
Your speaker cried to mommy because the new CoS is too tough for him to even negotiate.
Steve
February 19th, 2013
12:15 pm
@That Black Guy – you do realize that the old Confederate states are the red states now, that supported the tool Romney, right? And most of these Georgia good ole boy posters are what I would call Confederates – they are treasonous, anti-American ignoramuses combined with greedy Christian nutjobs….who hate Obama SOOOO much.
barking frog
February 19th, 2013
12:16 pm
Morality ?
Obama is not a socialist. He is a social Democrat thus
his weekends with Oprah and Tiger.
Rabbit
February 19th, 2013
12:16 pm
Of course there must be tax increases. It’s unpleasant and as a purely salaried employee, I’ll pay the highest percentage of any increases. But simple economics requires that shrinking government cannot occur suddenly without shaking the foundations.
All these so called ideologues who are castigating the President in this comment section DO NOT want the consequences of foundation shaking. If you’re young, plan to work for less (maybe part-time) and if you’re older, your retirement accounts will be in jeopardy.
Simple, folks. If you suddenly cut huge chunks of money (even gov’t money) out of the economy, GDP convulses, credit dries up. Remember 2007-8?
Go ahead, turn off that talking head and think for yourself with the common sense I know your parents must have taught you.
philosopher
February 19th, 2013
12:17 pm
Christian Conservative
February 19th, 2013
10:48 am
philosopher:
Honestly when you have a government that spends trillions of dollars a year it don’t take a heck of a lot of logic to realize there’s waste somewhere. The left seems to think our government is efficient. No one in their right mind would believe that….
I absolutely agree…No one in their right mind believes that liberals think our government is efficient.
Paul
February 19th, 2013
12:17 pm
0311
“But the bottom line is Conservatives and Christians give more than liberals and athiests.”
Given the distinctions the good perfesser noted in how people see in the avenues to giving and how some try to shut down governmental avenues, which prevents an increased level of giving, not much can be made of that distinction.
And we haven’t even gotten into how much of ‘charitable giving’ goes outside the organization and generalized across the population, even when the groups to whom it goes do not subscribe to the faith goals of the church. But data on that is difficult to come by
You know of any Christian faiths that provide long-term food assistance to individuals and families, not just to those of their faith? Or provides support to third-world charities not of their faith so they can expand their services? Far as I can tell, it’s Mitt Romney’s religion. Looks like some other denominations have some catching up to do.
Steve
February 19th, 2013
12:17 pm
I rest my case. These same ignoramuses accuse Obama of being a “socialist” as if that is a bad word (ask our socialist neighbors up north what they think of us down here as they bask in their strong economy, free healthcare, and are polled as happier than we are in general).
If Obama is a socialist, what was George W Bush? An uber socialist commie?
Steve
February 19th, 2013
12:17 pm
Tax
the
churches
USinUK - former Girl Scout
February 19th, 2013
12:17 pm
“But the bottom line is Conservatives and Christians give more than liberals and athiests.”
and, again … when you take churches out of the equation, what would happen to that particular result (funnily enough, atheists don’t contribute much to those)
getalife
February 19th, 2013
12:18 pm
frog,
Yes the factory reinstall should go back to 7 and you wasted 40 bucks.
I would stick with 7 until they stop doing updates.
Darwin
February 19th, 2013
12:18 pm
So the GOP and tea party folks are for reduced government spending. But when it actually happens it’s called Obama..something! Geesh!
JamVet
February 19th, 2013
12:18 pm
I’m sure there are lots of really great Republican Christians around this country; men and women who try to quietly follow the teachings of Christ in their lives and words and deeds, as best they can.
People who care deeply for and try to help the poor, elderly, sick and children. (Or as Christ referred to them – the least of these brothers and sisters of mine). Who are not bigots and racists obsessed by riches and racial/ideological purity.
Who do not have reprehensible men and hate-filled philosophies as their champions and who don’t collectively abhor ethnic diversity and other non-Christian cultures.
Who have stood up to the unashamed avarice and evil promulgated by TV charlatans and frauds wearing $3000 Italian suits.
Alas, it is pretty clear that none of them blog here.
Rabbit
February 19th, 2013
12:19 pm
Of course there must be tax increases. It’s unpleasant and as a purely salaried employee, I’ll pay the highest percentage of any increases. But simple economics requires that shrinking government cannot occur suddenly without shaking the foundations.
All these so called ideologues who are castigating the President in this comment section DO NOT want the consequences of foundation shaking. If you’re young, plan to work for less (maybe part-time) and if you’re older, your retirement accounts will be in jeopardy.
Simple, folks. If you suddenly cut huge chunks of money (even gov’t money) out of the economy, GDP convulses, credit dries up. Remember 2007-8?
Go ahead, turn off that talking head and think for yourself with the common sense I know your parents must have taught you.
Steve
February 19th, 2013
12:19 pm
Starving your government and its effects:
http://www.businessinsider.com/us-infrastructure-behind-developed-world-2013-1
The World Economic Forum’s Global Competitiveness Report for 2012-2013 exposes that U.S. infrastructure compares unfavorably with that of most advanced countries and even some developing nations.
The report investigated the quality and availability of roads, railroads, ports, air transport, electricity, and telephones.
In terms of overall infrastructure, the U.S. ranks 25th, behind nations such as Oman and Barbados, and only one spot ahead of Qatar.
THANKS, CONSERVATIVES
RB from Gwinnett
February 19th, 2013
12:20 pm
“but they don’t acknowledge that we spent 700 billion plus dollars (close to three quarters of a trillion dollars) in 2011 (in one year!) on defense which is more than the next 11 countries COMBINED”
And you didn’t acknowledge that we are the military for most of our allies whose liberals have decimated their own military budgets to the point they couldn’t defend themselves without us. Both from a technology and a presence standpoint.
But don’t worry, we’ll be there soon enough and will have to rely on our “big brother” ally to protect us too; just like you liberals want. Oh, wait, we don’t have a “big brother” ally??? That could be a problem. Not just for us, but for our allies who can’t defend themselves. All we need is a good ‘ole fashioned peace loving liberal in the white house to bury their head in the sand for a few years while it happens. Wait for it….it will come.
barking frog
February 19th, 2013
12:21 pm
getalife
I upgraded for the browser but it is crappy too. I’m
considering Chromebook and deserting Windows
forever.
Steve
February 19th, 2013
12:22 pm
So, Christians tithe to their churches so their pastor can upgrade to a BWM? How is that charitable? These churches don’t even pay taxes. The Roman Catholic Church owns some of the most valuable land in the world, tax free.
TiredOfIt
February 19th, 2013
12:22 pm
Christian Conservative
February 19th, 2013
10:07 am
Lets have an honest debate. If the sequester comes it will have absolutely no effect on me and my family. So that’s why I’m for it because we must stop spending money we don’t have….
++
It is time that the church to quite mooching and pay their taxes. We cannot afford it.
Steve
February 19th, 2013
12:22 pm
RB, we could cut our military in half, get rid of outdated processes and ideas, modernize the military and be more effective, and still spend half of what we spend now.
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
February 19th, 2013
12:23 pm
And the bottom line is that Christians and conservatives give more ………… sorry libs.
DannyX
February 19th, 2013
12:23 pm
“I got 98 percent of what I wanted.”
John Boehner
USinUK - former Girl Scout
February 19th, 2013
12:23 pm
” The Roman Catholic Church owns some of the most valuable land in the world, tax free”
… then turn around and do extra collections for St. Vincent de Paul …
USinUK - former Girl Scout
February 19th, 2013
12:25 pm
“……… sorry libs.”
you are.
but we don’t hold it against you.
getalife
February 19th, 2013
12:26 pm
frog,
I have not heard much about Chromebook but people love Windows 7.
After you do the factory reinstall, you will have to upgrade 7 and other programs but it should last for years until they stop doing 7 updates.
Shine
February 19th, 2013
12:26 pm
Alrighty. I voted for Obama. He got some tax increases. Now where is his budget? I dont have a problem witrh more revenue increases with some more cuts. Spending the new revenue and hollering “wont increase the deficit” when talking about new spending aint getting it.
barking frog
February 19th, 2013
12:26 pm
0311
Aren’t Christians obligated to donate 10% of their gross
income to the charitable organization of which they are
members ?
alex
February 19th, 2013
12:26 pm
@ getalife, compromise and play it till 2014, Dems left with explaining the deficiet to an increasingly agitated public…Gop will argue they tried to get the house in order, but dems would not compromise by looking at entitlememts…Repubs will keep the house and expand on the Senate, UNLESS the president looks the dems in the face and we have to put some spending on the table……aw yes, circular room, NO corners in this game
RB from Gwinnett
February 19th, 2013
12:27 pm
Steve, “RB, we could cut our military in half, get rid of outdated processes and ideas, modernize the military and be more effective, and still spend half of what we spend now.”
And where in all of King Obama’s rhetoric is that proposal????
getalife
February 19th, 2013
12:27 pm
update not upgrade.
Doggone/GA
February 19th, 2013
12:28 pm
“And the bottom line is that Christians and conservatives give more ………… sorry libs”
And that says it ALL. There are NO Christian “libs” in Scouts narrow little world.
Well sorry, Bud…but “Christians” encompasses BOTH libs and cons
Itchy Finger
February 19th, 2013
12:29 pm
TiredOfIt
Lets have an honest debate. If the sequester comes it will have absolutely no effect on me and my family. So that’s why I’m for it because we must stop spending money we don’t have….
++
It is time that the church to quite mooching and pay their taxes. We cannot afford it.
It is time that the church to quite giving out food, clothing, healthcare, education and housing to the poor? The nation couldn’t afford that. But again I ask. Talk to your elected representatives about taking away churches tax exempt status….
Christian Conservative
February 19th, 2013
12:30 pm
TiredOfIt:
Why don’t you spew your non-sense to all the children churches help feed and cloth….
Doggone/GA
February 19th, 2013
12:31 pm
“Now where is his budget? ”
Chuckle
Steve
February 19th, 2013
12:31 pm
RB, how is Obama “King” when your dufus President called himself “The Decider”? Really?
(and note that GWB pronounced “nuclear” as “noo-cue-ler”, brainiac that he was)
Doggone/GA
February 19th, 2013
12:31 pm
“Aren’t Christians obligated to donate 10% of their gross
income to the charitable organization of which they are
members ?”
No
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
February 19th, 2013
12:31 pm
Paul:
“Among the more visible organizations …………… is Southern Baptist Disaster Relief. In 2005, volunteers responded to 166 named disasters, prepared 17,124,738 meals, repaired 7,246 homes, and removed debris from 13,986 yards. All assistance is provided to individuals and communities free of charge. SBC DR volunteer kitchens prepare much of the food distributed by the Red Cross in major disasters.”
If you want to do the research the list of other Christian organization is endless.
Christian Conservative
February 19th, 2013
12:31 pm
Doggone/GA
“And the bottom line is that Christians and conservatives give more ………… sorry libs”
And that says it ALL. There are NO Christian “libs” in Scouts narrow little world.
Well sorry, Bud…but “Christians” encompasses BOTH libs and cons
Its true… Libs believe in a secular society… Do you bother to read the tripe by your ilk posted on here?
USinUK - former Girl Scout
February 19th, 2013
12:32 pm
“Talk to your elected representatives about taking away churches tax exempt status….”
talk about the new third rail …
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getalife
February 19th, 2013
12:32 pm
alex,
I am not sure if the dems can win the house because of gerrymandering but Americans know congress can’t do their basic job of a budget.
I think the deal maker is the turtle so they will cut a deal at the last second like last time.
Then they will cut another deal on the debt limit.
A horrible way to govern but it is the gop so that is to be expected from the gop.
Steve
February 19th, 2013
12:33 pm
“U.S. stocks moved higher Tuesday, with the Dow and S&P 500 rising to new 5-year highs”
OH I hate that Obama soooooo much!
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
February 19th, 2013
12:33 pm
Doggone:
But alas you do err.
I am talking about who gives most ……….. not who is a “Christian”.
Doggone/GA
February 19th, 2013
12:34 pm
“Libs believe in a secular society”
A secular society can be, and IS, composed of religious people, as well as non-religious.
You DO know, don’t you, the “secular” does not mean no religions exists? Don’t you?
RB from Gwinnett
February 19th, 2013
12:34 pm
Hey, tiredofit, here’s a list of the shelters run by churches just in the city of Atlanta you’ll need to replace when you take these evil Christains tax exempt status away so they can no longer afford to run them.
Honest question…How many of the people in these shelters are you personally willing to take in or pay for?
RB from Gwinnett
February 19th, 2013
12:34 pm
http://www.bing.com/search?q=atlanta+church+shelters&form=CMNTDF&pc=CMNTDF&src=IE-SearchBox
Forgot the link…
barking frog
February 19th, 2013
12:35 pm
Itchy Finger
Talk to your elected representatives about taking away churches tax exempt status….
………………………………………………………………………………………………………………..
I am satisfied with the current church tax situation as
it keeps them from participating as organizations in
politics, except that it is a violation of the freedom of
religion, something it seems the churches are not too
concerned about.
Steve
February 19th, 2013
12:35 pm
If people gave to the Red Cross, or real charitable organizations that are accountable for what they spend instead of churches (who do Lord knows what with that money), then we’d see results.
Doggone/GA
February 19th, 2013
12:36 pm
“I am talking about who gives most ……….. not who is a “Christian”.”
Then you are including all Christian “libs” as well..and OF COURSE Christians give more, they are BY FAR AND AWAY the biggest group in this country. So it’s, at best, disingenuous, to say they “give more”…of course they do. The outnumber everyone else.
Christian Conservative
February 19th, 2013
12:36 pm
USinUK – former Girl Scout
“Talk to your elected representatives about taking away churches tax exempt status….”
talk about the new third rail …
If your not happy with tax policy that’s what you do…. Don’t pout about it…
RB from Gwinnett
February 19th, 2013
12:37 pm
Steve, “And where in all of King Obama’s rhetoric is that proposal????”
I repeated the question for you since you apparenlty overlooked answering it the first time.
Where is the proposal?
Itchy Finger
February 19th, 2013
12:39 pm
barking frog:
I’m glad your satisfied with current tax policy but their members still have free speech rights…
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
February 19th, 2013
12:40 pm
Doggone:
It’s very simple:
In general (with exceptions):
Christians give more than non-Christians.
Conservatives give more than liberals.
Therefore:
Conservative Christians give more than liberal Christians.
See how easy that was ?
Steve
February 19th, 2013
12:40 pm
Who is King Obama? I’ve not heard of him.
Paul
February 19th, 2013
12:40 pm
JamVet 12:18
Amen.
Steve
February 19th, 2013
12:41 pm
0311 – give what? money to their tiny churches?
barking frog
February 19th, 2013
12:42 pm
Itchy Finger
I’m glad your satisfied with current tax policy but their members still have free speech rights…
…………………………………………………………………………..
So do stockholders but the Corporation can participate in
politics also.
Doggone/GA
February 19th, 2013
12:43 pm
“But alas you do err.”
Not enough information
Peadawg
February 19th, 2013
12:43 pm
Christian Conservative
February 19th, 2013
12:06 pm
And multiple people told you that link didn’t prove anything. Lazy.
Steve
February 19th, 2013
12:43 pm
Indeed, the cuts on non-exempt areas will be broadly felt. Food inspections, border security, weather monitoring, medical research, disaster response, education programs and Meals on Wheels for seniors would be compromised.
Federal workers at different agencies would face furloughs. They may be told not to come to work one or two days every week or every pay period until September. And they won’t be paid for those furloughed days.
Will the sequester hurt the economy? Yes, if it stays in effect for the rest of the calendar year.
The CBO estimates that it could reduce economic growth by at least 0.6 percentage points and reduce job growth by 750,000 jobs.
Coupled with this year’s payroll tax cut expiration and the higher tax rates on high-income households, the CBO estimates growth will be curtailed by a total of 1.5 percentage points.
And make sure you get to the airport 2+ hours before your flight as long lines will await you at security…
Thank you, austerity conservatives.
Doggone/GA
February 19th, 2013
12:43 pm
Oops! Ignore that last…page hadn’t finished updating!
Steve
February 19th, 2013
12:44 pm
“The only thing we need to know, congress left on vacation without solving one of the biggest crisis facing our government in decades. No wonder congress commands such fantastic approval ratings when they prove over and over they’re capable of letting their voters take a hit for their inability to solve problems. This case is especially offensive. Congress created this problem because they weren’t willing to deal with it when they should have. Whatever made them think they would be able to deal with this problem in the future? This delusional behavior alone is an amazing display of incompetence.”
anonymous
Paul
February 19th, 2013
12:44 pm
0311
That’s a good link for disaster relief.
I was going more towards not just one-shot events, but ongoing events that have quite an ongoing financial commitment.
“And the bottom line is that Christians and conservatives give more ”
I’m really getting a kick out of reading you say that ‘my group is better because we spend more than you cheapskates!”
You sound an awful lot like a superduper liberal Democrat, you know that?
I love irony….
Doggone/GA
February 19th, 2013
12:45 pm
“Christians give more than non-Christians.”
And once again, OF COURSE THEY DO, the OUTNUMBER non-Christians
“Conservatives give more than liberals”
Harder to prove. As as a for instance, no survey that professes to “prove” this one way or the other will include my giving…because I don’t answer surveys.
clem
February 19th, 2013
12:45 pm
when is dick cheney going to jail….watched part of hubris last nite on maddow. this clown needs to go and obama’s crowd needs to be examined closer too.
Jefferson
February 19th, 2013
12:45 pm
Any president, numbers. Nothing to do with party. You like the smell.
getalife
February 19th, 2013
12:45 pm
scout is a lib.
Jefferson
February 19th, 2013
12:46 pm
or anyone too.
Fred ™
February 19th, 2013
12:46 pm
RB from Gwinnett
February 19th, 2013
12:37 pm
Steve, “And where in all of King Obama’s rhetoric is that proposal????”
I repeated the question for you since you apparenlty overlooked answering it the first time.
Where is the proposal?
+++++++++++++++++++
Who the f is King Obama. We have a Republic, dummy, therefore we have no king. Your insipid question is invalid through sheer stupidity.
USinUK - former Girl Scout
February 19th, 2013
12:48 pm
““Libs believe in a secular society””
yep. I believe that religion should be kept faaaar faaaar away from as many public institutions as possible.
you want to go to your church and believe in god – do so in your own time
Fred ™
February 19th, 2013
12:48 pm
Wow. Talk about petty. Arguing about how much Christians give to charity over some other group? Talk about deep in the Who cares category……….
I give what I give and to whom I give it too and it’s no one else’s business.
Fred ™
February 19th, 2013
12:49 pm
You also believe in the sanctity of keeping your olive oil brand secret it would appear USinUK………
Joe Hussein Mama
February 19th, 2013
12:49 pm
0311 — “But the bottom line is Conservatives and Christians give more than liberals and athiests.”
I don’t think you have any data at all about what and how much atheists give.
Christian Conservative
February 19th, 2013
12:50 pm
Peadawg
And multiple people told you that link didn’t prove anything. Lazy.
And multiple people told you that your opinion is irrelevant.. Lunacy.
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
February 19th, 2013
12:50 pm
Doggone:
We’re talking individual efforts and percentages.
But ………… think what you like.
Got to run …………. everyone be nice !
straitroad
February 19th, 2013
12:50 pm
I realize that most of you don’t care but the issue here is credibility, or lack thereof. Dropping a million dollars of our money on a weekend golf trip and then telling us we can’t make spending cuts is not good leadership.
USinUK - former Girl Scout
February 19th, 2013
12:50 pm
“If your not happy with tax policy that’s what you do…. Don’t pout about it…”
I do many things … pout isn’t one of them.
however, I am first and foremost a realist – just as tinkering with SS is the kiss of death, overhauling the tax code to prohibit the tax-free status to churches is kicking a hornets nest with both feet.
and it’s YOU’RE … not your.
getalife
February 19th, 2013
12:50 pm
The church has a pedophile problem so folks don’t pay much attention to their politics anymore.
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
February 19th, 2013
12:51 pm
Mama:
Please see the ABC news study I posted earlier.
Have to run !
TaxPayer
February 19th, 2013
12:51 pm
If you take away a Republican’s charitable contribution tax deduction, their churches would have to shut down.
Paul
February 19th, 2013
12:51 pm
Fred
“Wow. Talk about petty. Arguing about how much Christians give to charity over some other group? Talk about deep in the Who cares category………”
Some people just can’t feel good about themselves unless the can put themselves above others.
barking frog
February 19th, 2013
12:52 pm
Joe Hussein Mama
I don’t think you have any data at all about what and how much atheists give.
………………………………………………………………………….
Clearly atheists would not be charitable as they are
not affected by ‘Christian charity’.
Christian Conservative
February 19th, 2013
12:52 pm
USinUK – former Girl Scout
““Libs believe in a secular society””
yep. I believe that religion should be kept faaaar faaaar away from as many public institutions as possible.
you want to go to your church and believe in god – do so in your own time
In my own time.. Hmmm.. Your intelligence must have sprung a leak…..
TiredOfIt
February 19th, 2013
12:53 pm
Christian Conservative
February 19th, 2013
12:30 pm
TiredOfIt:
Why don’t you spew your non-sense to all the children churches help feed and cloth…
++
The church has a history with children, just not in a good way. Not to mention trying to indoctrinate them with some very bizarre ideas.
Christian Conservative
February 19th, 2013
12:53 pm
USinUK – former Girl Scout
Still no capitol letters….
Christian Conservative
February 19th, 2013
12:54 pm
USinUK – former Girl Scout
And you forgot the period… I guess your brain can’t keep up with your fingers….
Peadawg
February 19th, 2013
12:54 pm
“And multiple people told you that your opinion is irrelevant”
Besides you just now, how else said that? Using ‘ctrl f’ to search the blog, I see irrelevant used 4 times, and only 1 (you just now) said it to me.
Joe Hussein Mama
February 19th, 2013
12:55 pm
0311 — “We’re talking individual efforts and percentages.”
Exactly my point. You don’t have data on atheist contributions, and I think your definition of ‘charity’ is strongly tilted toward religious groups and charities. FWIW, I don’t think that tithing or money in the dish on Sunday = ‘charity.’
getalife
February 19th, 2013
12:55 pm
cons are reaching for something to make them feel better about themselves.
Their ideology and party failed so they are depressed.
Fred ™
February 19th, 2013
12:55 pm
I guess Paul thanks for the explanation. I don’t have that problem since I KNOW I’m superior to everybody in every way
Sometimes it’s hard to figure you mere mortals out……….
Dekalb comments
February 19th, 2013
12:55 pm
@Christian Conservative – multiple postings
I am a Christian but notice that on social media persons of other faiths never post their religious affiliation – I see no HinduBob or MarytheMuslim or JacktheJew.suggests Jesus’ admonition against trying to “brag” about your faith is potentially at play here.
When it comes to charity, I fully support the ability of people to contribute to their church, synagogue, mosque, temple, etc. I do not, however, believe those contributions should be tax-deductible. What purpose does that serve? It serves the purpose of you getting a tax deduction for a contribution to a church that may advocate death to homosexuals, imprisonment of non-virgins, etc. Why should we as a matter of public policy subsidize personal, individual beliefs. I say tax them all!!!
When it comes to caring for the “least among us” as Jesus requires…..what do you suggest? Are you thinking that every community will have a job bank, a food bank, a health care bank, etc. to meet their needs? I think that idea may have held sway in the middle ages but hardly now.
We recognize that in a complex, advanced society, many of the functions of charity MUST be driven by government policy. Trust me, administering food aid or unemployment aid, etc. to those in need by the government is vastly more efficient than 150K churches, synagogues, etc.
I appreciate your views on charity but think that in the “big picture” they fall short of realistic.
I would be happy to have a Bible study with you. Are you more of an Old Testament (don’t eat shellfish) or a new Testament (give all your money to the poor) Christian?
BlahBlahBlah
February 19th, 2013
12:55 pm
An 8% cut in TSA should not double wait times at airports. Bookman’s got his hyperbole machine cranked up to 11 again.
USinUK - former Girl Scout
February 19th, 2013
12:55 pm
“In my own time.. Hmmm.. Your intelligence must have sprung a leak…..”
yes.
your
own
time.
stay out of our schools.
stay out of our government.
TaxPayer
February 19th, 2013
12:56 pm
Still no capitol letters….
How ’bout A-T-L-A-N-T-A, for one. I could come up with 49 others just here in the states if you need.
Joe Hussein Mama
February 19th, 2013
12:56 pm
0311 — “Mama: Please see the ABC news study I posted earlier.”
Saw it; it was nonresponsive on the point I’ve raised.
USinUK - former Girl Scout
February 19th, 2013
12:56 pm
“Besides you just now, how else said that? Using ‘ctrl f’ to search the blog, I see irrelevant used 4 times, and only 1 (you just now) said it to me.”
(maybe the others are the voices in his head)
Joe Hussein Mama
February 19th, 2013
12:57 pm
B. Frog — “Clearly atheists would not be charitable as they are not affected by ‘Christian charity’.
I’m sure the organizations I donate to each month will be troubled to hear that they aren’t actually charities.
USinUK - former Girl Scout
February 19th, 2013
12:57 pm
“Still no capitol letters….”
no. I don’t know how to do capitOl letters.
capitAl letters, on the other hand, that I know how to do.
Vet
February 19th, 2013
12:58 pm
Democrats hated Bush just like Republicans hate Obama..nothing changes..just plenty of hate all around! Bring on the cuts…they must be made and more severe or the country will go broke!
TiredOfIt
February 19th, 2013
12:58 pm
It’s way pass time to pull an Iceland on the wall street banks or are they to big to be nationalized. And since oil is a national security issue same goes for them.
Doggone/GA
February 19th, 2013
12:58 pm
“We’re talking individual efforts and percentages”
No, WE are not. And YOU never stated it as such. How about some relevent numbers to prove your assertions.
Joe Hussein Mama
February 19th, 2013
12:59 pm
Vet — “Democrats hated Bush just like Republicans hate Obama..”
Rejected.
I don’t think very much of President Bush at all, but you’ll never see me calling him a name like our conservative friends and associates do on here.
That Black Guy
February 19th, 2013
1:00 pm
Dharma Bum
February 19th, 2013
10:59 am
Dems/Libs and Reps/Cons spit in each other’s faces everyday and you guys wonder why there is no compromise? How about we drop the incendiary rhetoric and stop referring to Tea Partiers as “American Al Qaeda” and Liberals as “Communists?” That might be a start.
_________________________________________________
You must be new here.
It’s all the dems/repubs fault.
If the dems/repubs would get out out the way and let the dems/repubs handle things, we would be in great shape.
The dems/repubs have ALL the answers.
The dems/repubs are destroying the country and only the dems/repubs can save it.
Dems/repubs are stooped, unpatriotic, unAmerican, poopyheads.
getalife
February 19th, 2013
1:00 pm
I would love to make 4 trillion.
We are not broke vet.
Christian Conservative
February 19th, 2013
1:00 pm
Peadawg
“And multiple people told you that your opinion is irrelevant”
Besides you just now, how else said that? Using ‘ctrl f’ to search the blog, I see irrelevant used 4 times, and only 1 (you just now) said it to me.
You’ve been debunked many times… Scroll up and take a look… Your buffoonery is laughable…
barking frog
February 19th, 2013
1:01 pm
Joe Hussein Mama
I’m sure the organizations I donate to each month will be troubled to hear that they aren’t actually charities.
………………………………………………………………………………………………
but i’m sure they would be glad to be recognized as not being
affected by ‘Christian charity’
Doggone/GA
February 19th, 2013
1:01 pm
“Clearly atheists would not be charitable as they are
not affected by ‘Christian charity’”
It isn’t clear to ME that they would not be as charitable. Maybe they just don’t brag about their giving like too many “Christians” do.
Itchy Finger
February 19th, 2013
1:02 pm
The idiots of the left…
http://nation.foxnews.com/rosario-dawson/2013/02/19/rosario-dawson-slams-keystone-pitches-hemp-oil-alternative
Joe Hussein Mama
February 19th, 2013
1:02 pm
C. Conservative — “You’ve been debunked many times…”
Well, so have you, but you still keep jabbering.
UNCLE SAMANTHA
February 19th, 2013
1:02 pm
TAX REFORM!!!
LIBERALS AND REPUBLICANS are ignorant…….. tax cuts and tax raises are not the answer………. THEY ARE WHAT CAUSED THE PROBLEM
getalife
February 19th, 2013
1:02 pm
tiredofit,
You are a socialist.
Butch Cassidy (I)
February 19th, 2013
1:02 pm
USinUK – “capitAl letters, on the other hand, that I know how to do.”
I find it ironic that we keep getting lectured on intelligence by someone who can’t spell, debate, or even validate their claims. Then again, the moniker does explain it.
getalife
February 19th, 2013
1:03 pm
Calm down crazy uncle sam.
w blew out the budget then collapsed our economy.
Saving a depression is not cheap.
Joe Hussein Mama
February 19th, 2013
1:03 pm
B. Frog — “but i’m sure they would be glad to be recognized as not being
affected by ‘Christian charity”
Oh, I imagine that christians donate to most of the same causes I do; I just don’t make it a habit to donate to overtly religious charities of any sort.
USinUK - former Girl Scout
February 19th, 2013
1:04 pm
“I find it ironic that we keep getting lectured on intelligence by someone who can’t spell, debate, or even validate their claims”
more evidence of “those who can, do … those who can’t, lecture”
barking frog
February 19th, 2013
1:05 pm
Joe Hussein Mama, Doggone/GA
“Clearly atheists would not be charitable as they are
not affected by ‘Christian charity’”
Try as you might you are not going to be able to make
that into a serious statement…………
Christian Conservative
February 19th, 2013
1:05 pm
USinUK – former Girl Scout
“In my own time.. Hmmm.. Your intelligence must have sprung a leak…..”
yes.
your
own
time.
stay out of our schools.
stay out of our government.
Someone’s panties are in a wad….
Peadawg
February 19th, 2013
1:06 pm
“You’ve been debunked many times… Scroll up and take a look… Your buffoonery is laughable…”
Do you have specific post (time, who)?
Jack ®
February 19th, 2013
1:06 pm
Bookman’s liberal heart bleeds for those he calls ‘poor’. He doesn’t mention the fact those born poor can stay poor and enjoy it if there’s enough federal and state hand-outs to go around. Being born poor offers more incentives unless the parent encourages the child to live on the dole. We did get aid, though, when I was a child: my grandfather would bring wheelbarrows filled with coal from across the village and my dad was allowed to work for the WPA.
Joe Hussein Mama
February 19th, 2013
1:06 pm
B. Frog — “Try as you might you are not going to be able to make
that into a serious statement…………”
I’m giving it the benefit of the doubt.
getalife
February 19th, 2013
1:07 pm
cons pretend to be intelligent because Americans keep calling them stupid.
Americans are right.
cons are a lost cause without party flailing in the wilderness.
Christian Conservative
February 19th, 2013
1:07 pm
USinUK – former Girl Scout:
Poor gal. You remind me of my dog barking out into the darkness with absolutely no clue what your barking at….
barking frog
February 19th, 2013
1:08 pm
Joe Hussein Mama
B. Frog — “Try as you might you are not going to be able to make
that into a serious statement…………”
I’m giving it the benefit of the doubt.
………………………………………………………..
Proceed Governor….
Itchy Finger
February 19th, 2013
1:08 pm
CC
USinUK – former Girl Scout:
Poor gal. You remind me of my dog barking out into the darkness with absolutely no clue what your barking at….
That’s the liberal mindset. They are clueless…
USinUK - former Girl Scout
February 19th, 2013
1:08 pm
“Someone’s panties are in a wad….”
I’m so sorry to hear you’re in discomfort – I suggest boy shorts – I think they’re very comfy.
комиссар (Occupation)
February 19th, 2013
1:09 pm
getalife: “You are a socialist.”
There’s one under every bed.
getalife
February 19th, 2013
1:09 pm
“You remind me of my dog barking out into the darkness with absolutely no clue what your barking at”
If you go outside and listen, you will hear another dog barking.
Joe Hussein Mama
February 19th, 2013
1:10 pm
B. Frog — “Proceed Governor….”
Shrug.
I’ve said what I have to say on the topic. If you want more out of me about that, you’ll have to give me more to go on.
barking frog
February 19th, 2013
1:10 pm
Can ‘panties in a wad’ actually be a good thing ?
Steve
February 19th, 2013
1:11 pm
How are liberals clueless when liberals tend to be more educated, have better jobs hence smarter than the 8th grade edumucated Confederate conservatives in here? Truly, you need to get a grasp on reality.
Blue states have all the best colleges. I know that’s hard for feeble minds to grasp, but…
USinUK - former Girl Scout
February 19th, 2013
1:11 pm
“Poor gal. You remind me of my dog barking out into the darkness with absolutely no clue what your barking at….”
aw, puddin’ … just because it’s above your head doesn’t mean that it’s without substance. it just means you’re too dense to understand.
Doggone/GA
February 19th, 2013
1:11 pm
“You remind me of my dog barking out into the darkness with absolutely no clue what your barking at”
Just because YOU don’t know what your dog is barking doesn’t mean your dog doesn’t know.
Itchy Finger
February 19th, 2013
1:11 pm
Hows that obama jobs council going?
barking frog
February 19th, 2013
1:11 pm
getalife
If you go outside and listen, you will hear another dog barking.
…………………………………………………………….
that might be a frog…
getalife
February 19th, 2013
1:11 pm
“Proceed Governor….”
That response was the highlight of the debates.
SwamiDave
February 19th, 2013
1:11 pm
Jay:
“For the rest of us, however, it doesn’t exactly spread the pain around, now does it?”
This point being the key point assuming that our tax code or budget should “spread pain”. It ignores the question of whether or not these “good” things are even justifiable roles of the federal government and assumes that (since they “are”) the federal government has the authority to confiscate that which is owned or earned to fund them. By failing to address the primary issue that these aren’t legitimate roles for the federal government, we further wander down the slope assuming that we can by democratic action steal that which belongs to someone else based upon “need”.
-SD
Uh Huh.......The GOP are like angels dancing on the head of a pin
February 19th, 2013
1:12 pm
@0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
February 19th, 2013
12:09 pm
Uh Huh…….The GOP are like angels dancing on the head of a pin :
Thank you. Good verses !!!
By the way ………. you don’t know who I am or how much I give.
Only God does.
P.S.
Do you believe the miracles that Jesus did in feeding the thousands from just mere small baskets of food ?
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
“feeding the thousands from just mere small baskets of food”
Give a man a fish and he will eat for a day, teach a man to fish and he will eat for a lifetime.
Matthew 4:19
And he said to them, Follow me, and I will make you fishers of men.
getalife
February 19th, 2013
1:13 pm
“Hows that obama jobs council going?”
Your party are job killers.
Steve
February 19th, 2013
1:13 pm
Since the GOP hates America, they will hate this:
“All three [stock] indexes are up between 6% and 7%, with the Dow just 1.2% shy of its all-time high, hit in October 2007. The S&P 500 is about 3% below its record high, also set in October 2007.”
Christian Conservative
February 19th, 2013
1:13 pm
USinUK – former Girl Scout
February 19th, 2013
1:11 pm
“Poor gal. You remind me of my dog barking out into the darkness with absolutely no clue what your barking at….”
aw, puddin’ … just because it’s above your head doesn’t mean that it’s without substance. it just means you’re too dense to understand.
LOL.. Poor poor soul…
zeke
February 19th, 2013
1:14 pm
Medicare not Medicaid should have been exempted! Contributory programs like SS and Medicare should not be cut! Medicaid is a redistribution agenda program and if necessary it must be cut! And all government spending other than SS, Medicare and Defense must have actual cuts, NOT JUST A REDUCTION IN THE ANNUAL INCREASES! The debt is now well over 70% of the GDP! Do not you have a problem with that? Try to get a home mortgage with a debt load above 40%! Yes, I know that is a different ratio, but, FOR ONCE USE COMMON SENSE! NO ONE’S TAXES SHOULD EVER BE OVER 10%! EVERYONE SHOULD PAY THE SAME % OF TAX REGARDLESS OF INCOME, AND, THE NATIONAL DEBT SHOULD NEVER, NEVER, UNLESS OF WAR, BE ABOVE 25% OF GDP!!!!
barking frog
February 19th, 2013
1:14 pm
itchy finger
Hows that obama jobs council going?
…………………………………………………..
I believe that would be out the door as any recommendation
given would be useless when presented to an obstructionist
house of representatives…….
Itchy Finger
February 19th, 2013
1:15 pm
Steve
Since the GOP hates America, they will hate this:
“All three [stock] indexes are up between 6% and 7%, with the Dow just 1.2% shy of its all-time high, hit in October 2007. The S&P 500 is about 3% below its record high, also set in October 2007.”
This is really refreshing to the poor and lower middle class suffering under obama with high energy costs, rising grocery prices, and lack of jobs….
getalife
February 19th, 2013
1:16 pm
The first question about the sequester is how many jobs will it kill.
Keep in mind, the fed will keep easing until full employment so the gop focusing on cuts is dead wrong.
The gop will own bad unemployment and ruining our recovery.
Your move turtle.
Steve
February 19th, 2013
1:16 pm
So Itchy, you’re saying that corporations should start hiring stop hording money? How is this Obama’s fault?
Itchy Finger
February 19th, 2013
1:17 pm
barking frog
Hows that obama jobs council going?
…………………………………………………..
I believe that would be out the door as any recommendation
given would be useless when presented to an obstructionist
house of representatives…….
Oh so his jobs council failure is because of the GOP… Wow. Just wow….
USinUK - former Girl Scout
February 19th, 2013
1:17 pm
“LOL.. Poor poor soul…”
yes, you are, but we don’t hold it against you.
we just mock you for it.
JamVet
February 19th, 2013
1:18 pm
Today’s rhetorical question regarding America’s Christians.
Why is it that the percentage of self-professed Christians in American prisons is higher than the percentage of self-professed Christians in American society?
If they actually lived what their religion preaches it seems that it would be WAY less, no?
Maybe the Christians here have a convincing answer…
Dekalb comments
February 19th, 2013
1:19 pm
Somehow people think the labels “liberal”, “progressive” or “socialist” are bad. They are not. They are terms used to express people that hold to specific beliefs just like Christian, Jew, Muslim, Hindu or, heaven forbid “conservative” are.
The right has been successful in vilifying the labels of those “left-of-center” but they think by throwing those terms around they are denigrating those people? Hardly. I consider anyone who uses the label of “conservative” suspect of low intelligence and inability to reason…but I don’t use that term negatively.
JamVet
February 19th, 2013
1:19 pm
This is really refreshing to the poor and lower middle class suffering under the past five administrations with high energy costs, rising grocery prices, and lack of jobs….
Take the long view, itchy.
It will help greatly with your arguments…
Madmax
February 19th, 2013
1:20 pm
Seperated at birth Barack Obama and Jimmy Carter – a common creed – those who can lead, lead; those who can’t, whine except Jimmy at least tried. Barack on the other hand has played the blame game since day 1 and I suspect he will continue doing it until he is placed in his grave many years hence.
Escaped from Email Purgatory
February 19th, 2013
1:21 pm
“You just can’t stand two black guys acting like they are important while you and your big hat no cattle crowd have to sit on the sideline put in your place.”
@GT
For me, that’s not the case. Accept or refute that claim at your discretion.
Your statement is, however, a tactic often used by many in defense of Obama. That is to discredit the motive of the critic rather than address the merit (or lack thereof) of the criticism presented.
It’s a shield that serves Obama supporters well.
Not to disparage your viewpoint – you may actually suspect I’ve got issues with black men occupying powerful positions.
At some point – long after I’m gone – race will stop being the only issue in a dispute when it can be included as an issue at all. If we are truly a diverse society – and a meritocracy – then eveybody’s got to be able to accept criticism of their job performance at face value.
I’m comfortable with my opinion of Obama. He’s not Satan or a tool of Globalists or a black nationalist. He is however, one crazy-liberal social reformer and a decidedly mediocre leader.
Itchy Finger
February 19th, 2013
1:21 pm
This is sick… And for this to be happening in our bright red state of Georgia…. Somebody better be fired!
http://www.therightscoop.com/propaganda-georgia-elementary-school-class-verse-obama-ranso-our-children-could-fly/
barking frog
February 19th, 2013
1:22 pm
itchy finger
Oh so his jobs council failure is because of the GOP…
……………………………………………………………………….
I didn’t say his jobs council failed. just that their recommendations
had no chance of becoming programs due to the obstructionist
House of Representative Republicans. President Obama
usually does not waste time or money.
Itchy Finger
February 19th, 2013
1:23 pm
I’m glad obama feels our pain…
http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2013/02/19/Obama-Spends-8-Hours-with-$1000-hr-Golf-Coach?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+BigGovernment+%28Big+Government%29
That Black Guy
February 19th, 2013
1:23 pm
GT
February 19th, 2013
11:30 am
Southerngent the Republicans always end in the same place no matter the movement of their lips. – What place is that?
This is why you will soon not have a GOP any more. You can only live on lies so long. Is there one thing you think your party has done wrong? – Is there “one” thing they have done right? Is there “one thing democrats have done wrong?
Maybe this is your biggest lie, you are never wrong in your own mind. – Are you telling him (someone you have NEVER met) or asking?
I can tell you I don’t like our policy on Wall Street of letting big banks off the hook criminally and having a license to break the law. – Doesn’t the Obama administration control the Justice Dept? but it’s repub fault?
Now surely there is something you can find wrong with your party. – Can you with yours?
Steve
February 19th, 2013
1:23 pm
Comparing Obama to Carter is like comparing Reagan to George W Bush. Lame, and wrong, and just stupid.
Obama was elected TWICE and the economy is improving as we dig ourselves out of a Republican great recession. Obama also clearly has had foreign policy success (ie – Bin Laden). Carter was elected once and failed on foreign policy.
getalife
February 19th, 2013
1:23 pm
corporate media gives the gop a free pass for their obstruction but the majority does not.
corporate media giggle at the gop’s behavior but the majority does not and will hold the gop accountable.
Steve
February 19th, 2013
1:24 pm
So interesting to watch folks in here complain about Obama’s three day golf vacation when their previous leader took more vacation time as President than anyone before or after him.
getalife
February 19th, 2013
1:25 pm
itchy,
Just post drudge . com hack.
barking frog
February 19th, 2013
1:25 pm
JamVet
Why is it that the percentage of self-professed Christians in American prisons is higher than the percentage of self-professed Christians in American society?
………………………………………………………………………………………
Prisoners see it as a way to release and a venue to a job through
Chuck Colson’s Prison Ministries….
Steve
February 19th, 2013
1:27 pm
Calls to several Presidential libraries reveal that President Obama’s predecessor, George W. Bush, was on vacation more — 1,020 days — than any U.S. President since Herbert Hoover and possibly more than any other President in history.
President Bush spent 32% of his presidency on vacation.
http://politic365.com/obamas-vacations-of-any-president-bush-racked-up-the-most/
Granny Godzilla
February 19th, 2013
1:28 pm
Rosa walked…so Martin could walk
Martin walked ….so Obama could run
Obama ran…so our children could fly
.
.
.
.
Gee whiz Itchy…what’s your problem with that? I think it great inspiration for kids.
Did you bi-zitch about Abraham, Martin and John too?
barking frog
February 19th, 2013
1:28 pm
itchy finger
I’m glad obama feels our pain…
………………………………………………..
you just don’t like the pain Obama has visited on
Republicans and we know where your pain is
located but that doesn’t mean we feel it….
Erwin's cat
February 19th, 2013
1:29 pm
If they actually lived what their religion preaches it seems that it would be WAY less, no?
Maybe the Christians here have a convincing answer…
I’d expect a lot of them found religion while being incarcerated, and not before…but you didn’t ask me
Itchy Finger
February 19th, 2013
1:29 pm
Steve
Comparing Obama to Carter is like comparing Reagan to George W Bush. Lame, and wrong, and just stupid.
Obama was elected TWICE and the economy is improving as we dig ourselves out of a Republican great recession. Obama also clearly has had foreign policy success (ie – Bin Laden). Carter was elected once and failed on foreign policy.
Steve is a great example of an uninformed voter….
Steve
February 19th, 2013
1:30 pm
Wow, you sure done did got me there, partner! ??
Sagegirl
February 19th, 2013
1:30 pm
The idiots on the right…
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/02/18/mary-sue-mcclurkin-baby-largest-organ_n_2712812.html?utm_hp_ref=politics
MiltonMan
February 19th, 2013
1:31 pm
“How are liberals clueless when liberals tend to be more educated, have better jobs hence smarter than the 8th grade edumucated Confederate conservatives in here? Truly, you need to get a grasp on reality.”
APS, DeKalb, & Clayton – bluest of the blue around here & the schools are the worst in the state.
JamVet
February 19th, 2013
1:31 pm
If Obama is such a liberal, why is he droning the Moozlims to hell? And American citizens?
If he is such a liberal why did he surge into Afghanistan?
If he is such a liberal why is Osama bin Laden at the bottom of the Indian Ocean?
If he is such a liberal why did he lead and then continue to participate with bombing missions into Libya?
If he is such a liberal why has he deported more than 1.4 million undocumented immigrants?
If he is such a liberal why has he done nothing to really regulate the financial industries or prosecute Wall Street criminals?
If he is such a liberal why did he oppose single payer insurance for all Americans?
If he is such a liberal why has he opened up huge expanses of ocean to drilling on the Atlantic coastline and the eastern Gulf of Mexico and opened up more drilling in the Arctic?
It is clear that most Fox-fed, Limbaugh-led Republicans can no longer even make intelligent arguments about what constitutes conservatism and liberalism, much less socialism, capitalism and Marxism…
Half Century Dawg
February 19th, 2013
1:31 pm
“Why is it that the percentage of self-professed Christians in American prisons is higher than the percentage of self-professed Christians in American society?”
perhaps they found Christ after going to prison
getalife
February 19th, 2013
1:32 pm
The second question about the sequester is how low will your 401k’s drop.
mm
February 19th, 2013
1:32 pm
I see our friends on the right have pretty much run out of new talking points. So sad that if they only googled, they would see they are mostly lies.
Steve
February 19th, 2013
1:33 pm
@miltonman – you really think that pointing out poor black urban areas as where the only liberals live? Have you not forgotten about the progressive northeast, with it’s very blue but wealthy and educated suburbs??
Itchy Finger
February 19th, 2013
1:35 pm
Granny Godzilla:
obama doesn’t deserve to be in that group. That’s the problem. He’s done absolutely nothing to make life better for Afro-Americans……
Erwin's cat
February 19th, 2013
1:35 pm
The second question about the sequester is how low will your 401k’s drop.
who looks at their 401k in the short term?
Thulsa Doom
February 19th, 2013
1:36 pm
(If you’re flying, you might want to double the time needed to get through security.)
Well we could probably solve that problem by doing what San Francisco did. Get rid of that incompetent TSA and go to a private firm that moves people through more quickly and efficiently, does it at a cheaper cost, and most importantly is better at detecting threats than the bozos at TSA who are busy patting down grannys and babies.
“In other words, the record shows that Republicans forced the crisis, and now want to blame Obama for proposing an escape hatch.”
In other words its always the Rs fault. Its probably still W’s fault too isn’t it?
JamVet
February 19th, 2013
1:36 pm
Liberals institutions of excellence – Harvard, Princeton, Cal Berkeley, Yale, Stanford, Columbia, UCLA, Chicago University, MIT, Duke, Northwestern, John Hopkins, USC, Brown, Michigan, Cornell, Notre Dame, Georgetown, Emory, and on and on and on.
Conservative institutions of non-excellence – Liberty University and Bob Jones University.
Madmax
February 19th, 2013
1:37 pm
Steve – nobody said Obama is not a great campaigner so winning twice is not an accomplishment in terms of the American people – unfortunately, we need a leader, not a campaigner. All he does is whine much like JC did. Bush is gone. Hello Mr. President, you are our leader now – so Lead! And Steve, his” successes” have come at a great cost because he didn’t lead. He wasted so much time, capital and energy on Obamacare that much of the obstruction has been self inflicted. Don’t confuse bullheadedness for strength or leadership.
OBIWAN
February 19th, 2013
1:37 pm
Seems like it is Obozo who is crying not the GOP…
barking frog
February 19th, 2013
1:38 pm
getalife
The second question about the sequester is how low will your 401k’s drop.
……………………………………………………………………………
that is really a big question since much of the stock market
is based on military industrial complex corporations and one
more reason the obstructionists will walk away from sequestration.
our President is a tricky man.
Itchy Finger
February 19th, 2013
1:38 pm
Steve
How are liberals clueless when liberals tend to be more educated, have better jobs hence smarter than the 8th grade edumucated Confederate conservatives in here? Truly, you need to get a grasp on reality.
Blue states have all the best colleges. I know that’s hard for feeble minds to grasp, but…
I suppose you can back that ridiculous claim up……
Granny Godzilla
February 19th, 2013
1:38 pm
Itchy Finger
February 19th, 2013
1:35 pm
Granny Godzilla:
obama doesn’t deserve to be in that group. That’s the problem. He’s done absolutely nothing to make life better for Afro-Americans……
.
.
.
.
and you know that from all the time you spend in the hood right?
snicker
ATL Tiger
February 19th, 2013
1:38 pm
Sequester will cut $85 billion in spending…on a annual federal spending of $3.5 trillion or 2.4% reduction in spending
Hyper-exaggerate much?
barking frog
February 19th, 2013
1:40 pm
Erwin’s cat
who looks at their 401k in the short term?
………………………………………………………..
those who want to cash out…
Itchy Finger
February 19th, 2013
1:40 pm
JamVet
Liberals institutions of excellence – Harvard, Princeton, Cal Berkeley, Yale, Stanford, Columbia, UCLA, Chicago University, MIT, Duke, Northwestern, John Hopkins, USC, Brown, Michigan, Cornell, Notre Dame, Georgetown, Emory, and on and on and on.
Conservative institutions of non-excellence – Liberty University and Bob Jones University.
I’d like to see some stats to back that up… Oh wait. You have none… Just empty talk….
Joe Hussein Mama
February 19th, 2013
1:41 pm
Doom — “Well we could probably solve that problem by doing what San Francisco did. Get rid of that incompetent TSA and go to a private firm that moves people through more quickly and efficiently, does it at a cheaper cost, and most importantly is better at detecting threats than the bozos at TSA who are busy patting down grannys and babies. ”
FWIW, it was private security that missed the 9/11 hijackers.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Argenbright
Thulsa Doom
February 19th, 2013
1:41 pm
“Obama ran…so our children could fly”
Granny,
Um. Children and especially black children aren’t doing so well under Obama. There’s more of them and their families on food stamps than ever before and by a wide margin. And in terms of employment the situation is also bleak and especially for black people. But don’t let the empirical data get in the way of the Obama worship.
Tom( Viet Vet-USAF)
February 19th, 2013
1:42 pm
Everyone(well, almost everyone) on this blog applauded when the High-Achievers were forced to pay more in taxes.You said they should PAY THEIR FAIR SHARE! Now when some programs for Low-Achievers stand to be eliminated, do you still think the PAY YOUR FAIR SHARE applies? The only way out of this mess in for everyone and I mean everyone(high, medium and low income), has to pay something into solving this problem. You cannot spend more than you take in. What happens if China refuses anymore loans and you cannot put anymore IOU’s in the SS and Medicare Trust funds(that you took out and put into the general fund). Cmon people, think of your children/grandchildren’s future and stop thinking of yourself only. Living only for today is so selfish!
Erwin's cat
February 19th, 2013
1:43 pm
those who want to cash out…
If anyone is that concerned they just move their money out now into something low to no interest and no risk…then reinvest after the dust settles
Itchy Finger
February 19th, 2013
1:43 pm
Obama garnered 39% of the white vote yet libs think the dem party is the party of smart people. LOL…
St Simons - he-ne-ha
February 19th, 2013
1:43 pm
“daddy, what was a republican?” – my 3yr old, in a few years
JamVet
February 19th, 2013
1:45 pm
…perhaps they found Christ after going to prison…
Interesting possibility, half.
Which begs the question, do they then become Recidivist Criminals for Christ!
Itchy, you really have NO idea that those are the most prestigious universities in America????? Do the names even ring a bell? LOL!
Itchy Finger
February 19th, 2013
1:45 pm
JamVet:
Oh here’s a link in case you may be interested….
http://www.cnn.com/election/2012/results/race/president
Erwin's cat
February 19th, 2013
1:45 pm
FWIW, it was private security that missed the 9/11 hijackers.
that’s hardly fair..before 9/11 there was little to no security at any airport any where
комиссар (Occupation)
February 19th, 2013
1:45 pm
JamVet 1:31,
Those are the questions alright!
Thulsa Doom
February 19th, 2013
1:45 pm
“FWIW, it was private security that missed the 9/11 hijackers.”
Yes. I know and was doing business with the CEO of Argenbright at the time. Sucks for them but I seriously doubt the TSA would have caught them either given the incompetence that we repeatedly see from this agency.
Chip Shirley
February 19th, 2013
1:45 pm
Sequester Solution
1/2 budget cuts and 1/2 ending tax breaks for the rich…done
http://chipshirley.blogspot.com/2013/02/sequester-solution.html
getalife
February 19th, 2013
1:46 pm
“James Clapper, director of National Intelligence, has warned that “the sheer size of the cut will create an immediate national security crisis situation” in the CIA, FBI and other agencies. Border Patrol agents will be laid off, as will federal prosecutors and airline security officers. (If you’re flying, you might want to double the time needed to get through security.)”
Cue the ads on the gop are soft on national security.
Granny Godzilla
February 19th, 2013
1:46 pm
Thulsa Doom
February 19th, 2013
1:41 pm
“Obama ran…so our children could fly”
Granny,
Um. Children and especially black children aren’t doing so well under Obama. There’s more of them and their families on food stamps than ever before and by a wide margin. And in terms of employment the situation is also bleak and especially for black people. But don’t let the empirical data get in the way of the Obama worship.
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Yes, the Bush financial collapse hit those folks pretty hard……They know it too.
RB from Gwinnett
February 19th, 2013
1:48 pm
This should be an easy question for you libs….
Aside from the sequester itself, which was Obama’s idea, even though he’s now trying to scare the public into thinking it’s the evil Republicans fault if it goes through, what budget cuts has Obama proposed? He ran on this “balanced approach” of tax increases and cuts, got his tax increase, so what cuts has he proposed? Where is the bill?
Granny Godzilla
February 19th, 2013
1:51 pm
RB
Take a hint from garmon and “recalculate”.
Start from the beginning, the Budget Control Act of 2011.
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We are all well aware that this is nearly an impossible question for the “cons”.
silly silly silly
That Black Guy
February 19th, 2013
1:51 pm
Christian Conservative
A serious question:
If Jesus read what you post on this site to those you disagree with, how do you think He would respond? Would He rebuke you or encourage you?
If Jesus was made flesh again and contributed to this blog, do you think He would post they way you do?
I was always taught that “Christian” meant “Christ like”, are you being “Christ like” when you insult and name call those you disagree with?
Uh Huh.......The GOP are like angels dancing on the head of a pin
February 19th, 2013
1:52 pm
@Madmax
February 19th, 2013
1:20 pm
Seperated at birth Barack Obama and Jimmy Carter – a common creed – those who can lead, lead; those who can’t, whine except Jimmy at least tried. Barack on the other hand has played the blame game since day 1 and I suspect he will continue doing it until he is placed in his grave many years hence.
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“Barack on the other hand has played the blame game?”
Who do YOU blame for the war in Iraq?
Hubris: The Inside Story of Spin, Scandal, and the Selling of the Iraq War
President Bush SCAMMED the american people by lying about
why the U.S. should go to war with Iraq.
The Bush administration convinced the American people to go to war in Iraq are newly declassified talking points and handwritten notes from November, 2001 in which can be seen then-Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld’s team trying to find the most compelling reason to justify war.
THEY LIED.
Who do you BLAME?
Uh Huh
Joe Hussein Mama
February 19th, 2013
1:52 pm
E. Cat — “that’s hardly fair..before 9/11 there was little to no security at any airport any where.”
Were you doing much air travel around 9/11? I was, and I can assure you that there was security at just about every domestic airport I visited in the 2-3 years before 9/11.
In fact, the first time I ever had my hand luggage swabbed for explosive residue was at LaGuardia (NYC) — *before* 9/11 happened.
barking frog
February 19th, 2013
1:53 pm
Erwin’s cat
If anyone is that concerned they just move their money out now into something low to no interest and no risk…then reinvest after the dust settles
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thus affecting the stock market values and 401ks
getalife
February 19th, 2013
1:57 pm
rb,
Again con, the 4 trillion grand bargain is still on the table.
Proceed con.
RB from Gwinnett
February 19th, 2013
2:00 pm
Really Granny???? Your answer is the sequester itself?
No, seriously, what budget cuts has Obama proposed and where are the bills?
TaxPayer
February 19th, 2013
2:00 pm
I see President Obama is publicly asking the Republicans not to inflict the harm on the people and businesses of the USofA by going through with the sequester. The ball is in the Republican’s court and I suspect that continuing to proclaim that the spending cuts are Obama’s fault will not have a positive end result for the Republican Party. For one thing, Obama’s not running again. But by all means, don’t change a thing, cons. Your strategy has worked so well up ’til now.
Uh Huh.......The GOP are like angels dancing on the head of a pin
February 19th, 2013
2:01 pm
@Thulsa Doom
February 19th, 2013
1:41 pm
“Obama ran…so our children could fly”
Granny,
Um. Children and especially black children aren’t doing so well under Obama. There’s more of them and their families on food stamps than ever before and by a wide margin. And in terms of employment the situation is also bleak and especially for black people. But don’t let the empirical data get in the way of the Obama worship.
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“Children and especially black children aren’t doing so well under Obama.”
“There’s more of them and their families on food stamps than ever before and by a wide margin.”
EVERYONE should know by now that there are MORE WHITE people on
food stamps then black people.
EVERYONE should know by now WHY there are more unemployed black people.
Because WHITE people are not hiring black people at the rate that they are
hiring WHITE people.
Don’t INSULT our intelligence.
Uh Huh?
Granny Godzilla
February 19th, 2013
2:03 pm
B from Gwinnett
February 19th, 2013
2:00 pm
Really Granny???? Your answer is the sequester itself?
No, seriously, what budget cuts has Obama proposed and where are the bills?
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You don’t follow instructions very well do you?
silly silly silly
That Black Guy
February 19th, 2013
2:04 pm
Itchy Finger
February 19th, 2013
12:12 pm
That Black Guy:
You better get back on the plantation!!!
_____________________________
I’ll leave that to those who think dems/repubs are the cause of all problems/have all the answers.
Keep Up the Good Fight!
February 19th, 2013
2:05 pm
Ryan took credit for the sequester in August 2011, bragging to Fox News that it guaranteed the massive budget cuts Republicans were seeking. “We got that in law,” he boasted. On the House floor, he said the Budget Control Act’s spending cuts were “a victory for those committed to controlling government spending.”
Keep on trying to blame the President for the sequester.
RB from Gwinnett
February 19th, 2013
2:07 pm
That Black Guy, “If Jesus read what you post on this site to those you disagree with, how do you think He would respond? Would He rebuke you or encourage you?”
Give it up already TBG. We’re not falling for the “if you’re a Christian you have to let the liberals roll all over you because Jesus loved everybody” routine. On the night Jesus was arrested, Peter, who was with Jesus, drew his sword and cut off the ear of one of the men arresting him . Although Jesus told Peter to put his sword away, he wasn’t shocked his diciple had a sword or knew how to use it in the manner he did. To understand the heart of Jesus, you must invite him into your life and your heart TBG. I don’t get the impression many of you liberals have done that and thus have very little understanding of his teachings and wishes for you/us.
Keep Up the Good Fight!
February 19th, 2013
2:07 pm
COLE: … This was a presidential suggestion back in 2011, an idea. And yet the president himself hasn’t put out any alternatives. [...]
ELLISON: Well, Tom, the problem with saying this is the president’s idea is that you voted for the Budget Control Act. I voted against it. We wouldn’t have ever been talking about the Budget Control Act but for your party refused to negotiate on the debt ceiling something that has been routinely increased as the country needed it. You used that occasion in 2011 August to basically say we are going to default on the country’s obligations or you’re going to give us dramatic spending cuts. That’s how we got to the Budget Control Act.
Things Fox won’t tell you but the American people know to be FACT.
getalife
February 19th, 2013
2:07 pm
It is a shame the gop will not get out of the way of free commerce.
They will stay the course focused on getting our President.
Divided and conquered.
Granny Godzilla
February 19th, 2013
2:09 pm
Gee whiz, RB,
Bob Woodward got a leaked copy of a document laying out the options
and you can’t find them all by yourself?
RB from Gwinnett
February 19th, 2013
2:09 pm
“Because WHITE people are not hiring black people at the rate that they are hiring WHITE people”
Somebody doesn’t understand the first thing about statistics.
Ol' Timer
February 19th, 2013
2:11 pm
This budget crisis has been precipitated by gerrymandered districts electing and sending idiots to Washington who make a career out of saying such ridiculous stuff that rational people can’t comprehend the magnitude of their stupidity. And, negotiating with these stupid people is impossible.
RB from Gwinnett
February 19th, 2013
2:11 pm
I see, Granny…. How about in the future if you can’t answer the question asked, just don’t.
Christian Conservative
February 19th, 2013
2:12 pm
That Black Guy
February 19th, 2013
1:51 pm
Christian Conservative
A serious question:
If Jesus read what you post on this site to those you disagree with, how do you think He would respond? Would He rebuke you or encourage you?
If Jesus was made flesh again and contributed to this blog, do you think He would post they way you do?
I was always taught that “Christian” meant “Christ like”, are you being “Christ like” when you insult and name call those you disagree with?
He would probably shake his head in disbelief at how rotten and repulsive our society has become. As a Christian I will not be bullied and vilified simply because of my beliefs. If someone refutes the greatness and meaningfulness of Christianity they will be put in their place. If you don’t like my comments don’t read them. I believe and can relate to this passage in the Bible when Jesus said “Forgive them Father, for they know not what they do”. That’s exactly what I think when I read the numerous secular liberal posts on here….
Keep Up the Good Fight!
February 19th, 2013
2:12 pm
TBG, well now, on the Christian rating system, you apparently are only a 3…. but if you dress nice and tell people about how you be a better Christian, I am sure that will get you an extra point or two. Now if you can manage to drive over a few liberals on the way to work, BONUS PTS!!!!
Peadawg
February 19th, 2013
2:13 pm
“The Obama White House did propose the idea of a sequester back in 2011″
Funny now seeing Obama try and scare the hell out of Americans by saying how bad the cuts are.
Joe Hussein Mama
February 19th, 2013
2:13 pm
RB — “To understand the heart of Jesus, you must invite him into your life and your heart TBG. I don’t get the impression many of you liberals have done that and thus have very little understanding of his teachings and wishes for you/us.”
If doing so results in one becoming a rude and ill-tempered person like yourself, then count me out.
And if you were already rude and intemperate, maybe you need to pray that you become more christlike and able to turn the other cheek.
Steve
February 19th, 2013
2:15 pm
Christians – your bible is full of warnings about love of money and greed. Chock full of warnings about this. Yet, you are the ones who vote for the party of greed: the GOP.
Irony, isn’t it?
Thulsa Doom
February 19th, 2013
2:16 pm
“Yes, the Bush financial collapse hit those folks pretty hard……They know it too.”
Granny,
In other words its W’s fault. And of course in Obama’s 8th year it will still be W’s fault according to folks like yourself. Unless of course we go into a fantastic period of rapid economic growth. Then of course it will be Obama’s credit. Right Granny? And just to let you know the W recession ended a mere 6 months into Obama’s presidency.
Joe Hussein Mama
February 19th, 2013
2:16 pm
C. Conservative — “As a Christian I will not be bullied and vilified simply because of my beliefs.”
As an atheist, I won’t be bullied and vilified simply because of my lack of belief.
“If someone refutes the greatness and meaningfulness of Christianity they will be put in their place.”
One, I can reject whatever I please whether you like it or not.
Two, even if you’re right, you won’t be the one doing the place-putting. So simmer down, Cowboy.
“If you don’t like my comments don’t read them.”
Same to you.
“I believe and can relate to this passage in the Bible when Jesus said “Forgive them Father, for they know not what they do”. That’s exactly what I think when I read the numerous secular liberal posts on here….”
How terrible for you, that you should have to tolerate people who don’t think and believe like you do.
Granny Godzilla
February 19th, 2013
2:17 pm
RB from Gwinnett
February 19th, 2013
2:11 pm
I see, Granny…. How about in the future if you can’t answer the question asked, just don’t.
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Except I can answer the question you silly.
I have always taught my “trainees” never ask for info from someone else that you can attain on your own. That lazy stuff slows everybody down.
Major time waster.
Steve
February 19th, 2013
2:18 pm
Does Conservative = “I just make $*&t up?”
Keep Up the Good Fight!
February 19th, 2013
2:19 pm
Steve, for the most part, yes
Granny Godzilla
February 19th, 2013
2:20 pm
Thulsa Doom
February 19th, 2013
2:16 pm
“Yes, the Bush financial collapse hit those folks pretty hard……They know it too.”
Granny,
In other words its W’s fault. And of course in Obama’s 8th year it will still be W’s fault according to folks like yourself. Unless of course we go into a fantastic period of rapid economic growth. Then of course it will be Obama’s credit. Right Granny? And just to let you know the W recession ended a mere 6 months into Obama’s presidency
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The collapse will ALWAYS be Bush’s fault you big silly.
Just cause Richard Speck is dead does not end his reponsibility for killing 8 nurses.
RB from Gwinnett
February 19th, 2013
2:21 pm
Greed, Steve? Wanting to keep what you earn is greed, but want to take what others earn is noble? You’ve got some seriously whacked out views there, Steve.
Thulsa Doom
February 19th, 2013
2:22 pm
“EVERYONE should know by now that there are MORE WHITE people on
food stamps then black people.”
Um. Yep. Because there are 6 1/2 times more white people than black people so in absolute numbers there should be more whites on food stamps. Do you have a point to be made? Seems like you’re meandering into making this a racial thing.
My only point to Granny is that Obama garnered overwhelming black votes(97% I believe) and that ironically black America is suffering more than anyone under Obama. Its just a shame that the people who had the most faith in him are the ones being let down the most.
“EVERYONE should know by now WHY there are more unemployed black people.
Because WHITE people are not hiring black people at the rate that they are
hiring WHITE people.”
Well there ya went and did it. You just had to go and make it all about race. And in addition to making it all about race you showed your rather profound ignorance of statistics. Good grief.
Christian Conservative
February 19th, 2013
2:23 pm
Joe Hussein Mama:
That’s the delusion of you libs. You don’t have to think and believe like me. But if you insult me and attack my religion you will be dealt with through practical reveling debate which points out the stupidity of the secular left….
getalife
February 19th, 2013
2:24 pm
rb got owned.
weetamoe
February 19th, 2013
2:24 pm
So the most powerful person in the US was forced to propose a *solution* to the fiscal mess he has presided over since the first month of 2009. Is he that ineffectual? Is he even necessary? He might as well go back to *doing skeet* in his pink tutu. And those cuts do not go into effect immediately.They are *cuts* only in bureaucrat/democrat speak, since they are merely reductions in the increased spending going into effect the next fiscal year. So the *cuts* would not even be as extreme as would a simple freeze.
Paul
February 19th, 2013
2:25 pm
Really?
“You liberal do know that not a single budget item will actually be “cut” by the sequester?”
Perhaps you can enlighten us on why, when we tune in to Fox, we hear how the cuts will hollow out the military and jeopardize national security?
(the fact Fox is quoting from the SecDef and the service chiefs doesn’t count)
So, are those guys misleading us?
Thulsa Doom
February 19th, 2013
2:25 pm
“The collapse will ALWAYS be Bush’s fault you big silly.”
Aaaaah. So the entire housing meltdown was all the fault of one single man huh Granny? At this point I don’t think even you can fathom just how ridiculous you really sound.
Robert Lee - Cogito ergo zoom
February 19th, 2013
2:26 pm
…… To understand the heart of Jesus, you must invite him into your life and your heart TBG. I don’t get the impression many of you liberals have done that and thus have very little understanding of his teachings and wishes for you/us.
Ok, so once you invite him into your heart does the “turn the other cheek” turn into “blast that commie to hell with your AR-15″?
getalife
February 19th, 2013
2:26 pm
I would stay in the market because the fed will keep easing.
indigo
February 19th, 2013
2:26 pm
Christian Conservative – 2:12
1. Jesus left no writings so we know nothing about what he actually believed or thought about himself.
2. We don’t know who actually wrote the New Testament. The originals are long since lost and we only have copies of copies.
3. No one can furnish any testable scientific evidence that God even exists.
So, just out of curiosity, why do you talk about Christianity as though
IT WERE A PROVEN FACT?
Paul
February 19th, 2013
2:27 pm
CC
“But if you insult me and attack my religion you will be dealt with through practical reveling debate”
To many here, what you do comes across as reviling debate -
Itchy Finger
February 19th, 2013
2:27 pm
Steve
Christians – your bible is full of warnings about love of money and greed. Chock full of warnings about this. Yet, you are the ones who vote for the party of greed: the GOP.
Irony, isn’t it?
No actually we vote for a party that recognizes we live in a Christian nation who believes in traditional values. I understand that your party platform supports homo marriage and unfettered baby killing but that’s ok… At least you’re honest….
Keep Up the Good Fight!
February 19th, 2013
2:27 pm
Only the very silly would repeatedly claim that the end of an economic recession was the end of the impacts and imply that there was an immediate full recovery from the longest recession since WWII. What people care about is recovery.
Granny Godzilla
February 19th, 2013
2:27 pm
Thulsa
They have suffered more than anyone in America since we started a market for them here …..
getalife
February 19th, 2013
2:27 pm
The answer to my first question is losing 750,000 jobs.
The gop are job killers soft on national security.
I bet Pelosi is happy for 14.
Christian Conservative
February 19th, 2013
2:28 pm
Paul
“But if you insult me and attack my religion you will be dealt with through practical reveling debate”
To many here, what you do comes across as reviling debate -
That’s your opinion…
Thulsa Doom
February 19th, 2013
2:28 pm
Does liberal = I just believe crazy sh%t!
MiltonMan
February 19th, 2013
2:29 pm
“@miltonman – you really think that pointing out poor black urban areas as where the only liberals live? Have you not forgotten about the progressive northeast, with it’s very blue but wealthy and educated suburbs??”
Yes, the same areas that are losing population??? The same areas that are home to Wall Street crooks??? I was alluding to the state of Georgia pal. Put on your thinking cap for a bit there chief.
Granny Godzilla
February 19th, 2013
2:29 pm
Christian Conservative
February 19th, 2013
2:23 pm
Joe Hussein Mama:
That’s the delusion of you libs. You don’t have to think and believe like me. But if you insult me and attack my religion you will be dealt with through practical reveling debate which points out the stupidity of the secular left
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Hell if I thought and believed like you…..I could book the next flight straight to hell.
The goal is to be a much better “christian” than you could ever be.
You shame the name.
Paul
February 19th, 2013
2:30 pm
Just like the sun rises in the east and sets in the west, have a few religion pages and here comes indigo.
“2. We don’t know who actually wrote the New Testament. The originals are long since lost and we only have copies of copies.”
You post that nearly every time you arrive. You may want to do a bit of research on that one, though.
BTW – it might help your understanding if, instead of writing “we don’t know who actually wrote the New Testament” you wrote “we don’t know who wrote some of the books contained in the New Testament.”
getalife
February 19th, 2013
2:30 pm
Does doomy = dead wrong all the time?
You betcha.
alex
February 19th, 2013
2:30 pm
@ getalife, must you use “turtle”,it’s sophmoric…you need that to discuss–stay in the sandbox…Dems won’t win house ,drop the gerrymandering rhetoric, ti’s a lame excuse which each side will use when they need it just like corrupt politics, etc. The situation is the repubs need an issue for 2014 and IF they can convince the electorate that the deficeit is detrimental to their livelyhood, they can fund the govt in 3 month increments, showing “good faith” (?) in compromise and win IF the president continues to stay aloof( The golf with Tiger crap doesn’t help him with middle class America-overreaching, but that’s a sideline issue,you may like the “game of kings”-I don’t .The president and his advisors have recognized that the USA has become an “Idol” country and photo-ops look good to many people, I doubt the indepents think the same.
@Fred, what are you independent of?
MiltonMan
February 19th, 2013
2:31 pm
“Christians – your bible is full of warnings about love of money and greed. Chock full of warnings about this. Yet, you are the ones who vote for the party of greed: the GOP.”
Total BS! The Roman Catholics tend to vote majority liberal.
Paul
February 19th, 2013
2:31 pm
CC
“That’s your opinion…”
I’ve added my voice to many others here. But instead of cause for self-examination you seem to take it as an affirmation and a badge of honor.
getalife
February 19th, 2013
2:32 pm
“getalife, must you use “turtle””
Yes since you call our President every name in the book.
Proceed con……
alex
February 19th, 2013
2:33 pm
@ Granny, in what line of work do you instruct “trainees”?
Joe Hussein Mama
February 19th, 2013
2:33 pm
C. Conservative — “That’s the delusion of you libs.”
I suffer from no delusion. I’m not so sure about you, though.
“You don’t have to think and believe like me. But if you insult me and attack my religion you will be dealt with through practical reveling debate which points out the stupidity of the secular left….”
We’ve seen how lamely you ‘deal with’ others here, Champ. Your debating skills are near-nonexistent, and you seem to have trouble even following the thread of a discussion. And quite frankly, neither you or your religion are exempt from criticism, so you might as well learn to deal with it.
Besides, religion and political persuasion have little or nothing to do with each other. One can be both liberal and christian or be both conservative and atheist.
Paul
February 19th, 2013
2:34 pm
So… anybody think the military chiefs are misleading us with their warnings about the dire effect sequestration will have on the military and national defense?
Or, if they think that’s an accurate assessment, how do you answer, to paraphrase getalife’s oft-asked but never addressed question, ‘why are Republicans soft on national security?”
Brosephus™
February 19th, 2013
2:34 pm
Oh geez…. not this bullsh*t again…
My only point to Granny is that Obama garnered overwhelming black votes(97% I believe) and that ironically black America is suffering more than anyone under Obama. Its just a shame that the people who had the most faith in him are the ones being let down the most.
Had Mitt Romney been the Democratic Party candidate, he would have garnered over 90% of the Black vote. I doubt half of Black America sees Obama as some kind of “saver of the Black community”, and for some reason, White conservatives can’t seem to grasp that fact.
For some reason, there are White Americans who didn’t realize how few Blacks vote Republican prior to this election. I don’t recall a single damned person making a big deal that 100% of White Americans voted for White candidates in previous elections. Seems that race is only an issue because the White man lost to the Black man. Even if Obama had won 100% of the Black vote, he wouldn’t have been elected twice without the significant support he received from White Americans.
Keep Up the Good Fight!
February 19th, 2013
2:35 pm
The Roman Catholics tend to vote majority liberal.
Seems like we are stuck in a logic loop. Just awhile back we were told how conservatives and Christians gave so much more generously than liberals…… But now we are learing that Christians are often liberals too?
Intercourse the penguin?
Brosephus™
February 19th, 2013
2:36 pm
Also, Black Americans have been getting screwed as long as America has existed. Having one Black president ain’t gonna change that.
RB from Gwinnett
February 19th, 2013
2:36 pm
Granny, “I have always taught my “trainees” never ask for info from someone else that you can attain on your own. That lazy stuff slows everybody down”
You’re more pathetic than usual, Granny. If you can show us a budget cut Obama has proposed as part of his “balanced approach”, do it. Otherwise, there’s no need to reply. And don’t post another reference to the sequestration as if that’s a budget cut proposal. It’s not and everybody but you knows that. Do you gots anything or don’t you?
комиссар (Occupation)
February 19th, 2013
2:37 pm
Thulsa Doom: “Does liberal = I just believe crazy sh%t!”
Why do you spend so much time thinking about what liberal means?
TaxPayer
February 19th, 2013
2:37 pm
To many here, what you do comes across as reviling debate -
That depends on how you define “debate”. For the most part it’s just typical R&R — Revolting and Republican. Yes, I’m being repetitive.
getalife
February 19th, 2013
2:38 pm
Paul,
They tossed their principles and beliefs daily to get out President.
I remember when the right was strong on national security, very patriotic and very pro commerce.
Now, they are weak on national security, no patriotism and standing in the way of free commerce.
Sad but true.
MiltonMan
February 19th, 2013
2:38 pm
“But now we are learing that Christians are often liberals too?”
…and we constantly hear libs label Jesus as “Progressive”. Your point?
Common Sense isn't very Common
February 19th, 2013
2:39 pm
keep
Intercourse the penguin
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leave the nuns out of this
TaxPayer
February 19th, 2013
2:39 pm
Did someone say “turtle”. What’s Mitch up to now.
Common Sense isn't very Common
February 19th, 2013
2:40 pm
Bro
Obama’s BLACK?
damn writing on my hand washed off
Thulsa Doom
February 19th, 2013
2:41 pm
Brocephus,
This isn’t about race. My only point to uh huh is that the people who have the most faith in Obama are also the ones being let down the most. Uh huh just chose to make it more about race than it needs to be.
Granny Godzilla
February 19th, 2013
2:41 pm
alex
world class service…..
Christian Conservative
February 19th, 2013
2:41 pm
Granny Godzilla:
Look at the beliefs of your party. And you dare question my Christian values…
Granny Godzilla
February 19th, 2013
2:41 pm
Christian Conservative
February 19th, 2013
2:41 pm
Granny Godzilla:
Look at the beliefs of your party. And you dare question my Christian values…
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Yep, big time.
Granny Godzilla
February 19th, 2013
2:42 pm
RB from Gwinnett
February 19th, 2013
2:36 pm
Granny, “I have always taught my “trainees” never ask for info from someone else that you can attain on your own. That lazy stuff slows everybody down”
You’re more pathetic than usual, Granny. If you can show us a budget cut Obama has proposed as part of his “balanced approach”, do it. Otherwise, there’s no need to reply. And don’t post another reference to the sequestration as if that’s a budget cut proposal. It’s not and everybody but you knows that. Do you gots anything or don’t you?
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AGAIN….Bob Woodward got it…and you can’t???
Itchy Finger
February 19th, 2013
2:43 pm
Only in the world of liberals is this possible….
http://president.gov.af/en/news/17604
philosopher
February 19th, 2013
2:43 pm
Christian Conservative
February 19th, 2013
2:23 pm
Joe Hussein Mama:
That’s the delusion of you libs. You don’t have to think and believe like me. But if you insult me and attack my religion you will be dealt with through practical reveling debate which points out the stupidity of the secular left….
One does not need to attack your “religion”…you do it enough damage all by yourself. One can only assume that your faith is better representative of the heart Jesus taught us to have.
TaxPayer
February 19th, 2013
2:44 pm
Christian Conservative has Christian values! What are they?
getalife
February 19th, 2013
2:44 pm
Tax,
The turtle is getting ready to cut another deal.
The speaker refused to negotiate because the new Chief of Staff made him cry to mommy.
indigo
February 19th, 2013
2:46 pm
Paul – 2:30
I only post my objections to Christianity AFTER someone else brings them up here, which seems to be often. Funny, you don’t seem to ever berate them in a “just like the sun rises” way.
How about “we don’t know who wrote MOST of the books of the New Testament”?
http://www.straightdope.com/columns/read/1988/who-wrote-the-bible-part-4
RB from Gwinnett
February 19th, 2013
2:46 pm
Granny, “AGAIN….Bob Woodward got it…and you can’t???”
Yes, Granny, because “the most transparent administration in history” has to have their budget cut plans “leaked” to Bob Woodward so the people will know about them instead of presenting them to congress in the form of a bill as has been done for 200+ years. This is a simple question, Granny, answer it if you can…. Where is the bill and what cuts are being proposed in it?
Brosephus™
February 19th, 2013
2:49 pm
As for the sequestration crap, the dems should cave 100% to the GOP demands down to the penny. I would also ensure the legislation carried GOP congressmen names in it’s title. Make that crap ironclad for 4 years where nothing can be altered. If Dems think they are correct, then they can accurately blame the GOP for whatever happens because it would be their plan and theirs only.
I’m so tired of this sh*t, I wish they would just go ahead and completely f**k up the country already. Maybe then we can rid ourselves of the rigid ideologues who can’t seem to understand they don’t have all the correct answers all the time.
getalife
February 19th, 2013
2:49 pm
rb,
Google it.
You are dead wrong as usual.
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
February 19th, 2013
2:49 pm
Bush is gone.
Sez the guy who brought up Jimmy Carter 17 minutes earlier.
Classic face plant.
JamVet
February 19th, 2013
2:49 pm
…we live in a Christian nation…
WRONG. We live in a nation where man Americans choose to be Christians but that is all.
At least per the most sacred document ever written – the Constitution of the United States of America, which makes NO references to God. And thanks to the First Amendment we have evicted crosses from parks and public places and removed prayers to Jesus (other deities were never allowed) from public schools.
As the Government of the United States of America is not, in any sense, founded on the Christian religion,—as it has in itself no character of enmity against the laws, religion, or tranquility, of Mussulmen [Muslims],—and as the said States never entered into any war or act of hostility against any Mahometan [Mohammedan] nation, it is declared by the parties that no pretext arising from religious opinions shall ever produce an interruption of the harmony existing between the two countries.. ~President John Adams, 1797
Granny Godzilla
February 19th, 2013
2:53 pm
So RB…..You know what they are……
You’ve gone from what did he propose to where is the bill…..
Goal posts made of whipped cream!
Let me see….if President Obama presents his bill for immigration he’s butting into HOR responsibilities and it’s awful, terrible, bad…. but….
Y’all are a hoot.
Cheesy Grits is gone but not forgotten
February 19th, 2013
2:53 pm
He would probably shake his head in disbelief at how rotten and repulsive our society has become
“Forgive them Father, for they know not what they do”. That’s exactly what I think when I read the numerous secular liberal posts on here….
What a self righteous jerk.
Typical
Christian Conservative
February 19th, 2013
2:53 pm
TaxPayer
Christian Conservative has Christian values! What are they?
Simple. We should value life and the sanctity of marriage… Something your party does not…
Peadawg
February 19th, 2013
2:54 pm
Kamspam, that video made my day!
Doggone/GA
February 19th, 2013
2:54 pm
“and we constantly hear libs label Jesus as “Progressive”
Has he objected?
Christian Conservative
February 19th, 2013
2:54 pm
Cheesy Grits is gone but not forgotten
He would probably shake his head in disbelief at how rotten and repulsive our society has become
“Forgive them Father, for they know not what they do”. That’s exactly what I think when I read the numerous secular liberal posts on here….
What a self righteous jerk.
Typical
I think those cheesy grits are burnt…. LOL…
Cheesy Grits is gone but not forgotten
February 19th, 2013
2:56 pm
WRONG. We live in a nation where man Americans choose to be Christians but that is all.
Exactly right JamVet.
The founding fathers were liberals and weren’t all that religious.
Washington rarely attended Church and Jefferson …. please.
They saw an opportunity to create a new democratic nation and where did most of thier inspiration come from.
Not the bible but ancient Republics of Rome and Greece.
You can even see it in the architecture in DC. Its everywhere.
Jesus H Christ
February 19th, 2013
2:57 pm
If you’re considering my religion, please don’t think the buffoon posting
today represents or bears any resemblance to my teachings.
I did not approve that message
PS Had you going on that Dec 21st 2012 thing, huh?
Granny Godzilla
February 19th, 2013
2:57 pm
Christian Conservative
February 19th, 2013
2:53 pm
TaxPayer
Christian Conservative has Christian values! What are they?
Simple. We should value life and the sanctity of marriage… Something your party does not…
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Piffle
Jayne Cobb
February 19th, 2013
2:57 pm
The Man they call Jayne!
He robbed from the rich and he gave to the poor,
He stood up to the man and he gave him what for.
Our love for him now, aint hard to explain,
The hero of Canton, the man they call Jayne!
Our Jayne saw the Mudders’ backs breakin’
He saw the Mudders lament
And he saw that magistrate takin’
Every dollar and leavin’ five cents
So he said, “You can’t do that to my people”
“You can’t crush them under your heel”
Jayne strapped on his hat
And in five seconds flat
Stole everything Boss Higgins had to steal
He robbed from the rich and he gave to the poor
Stood up to the Man and he gave him what for
Our love for him now ain’t hard to explain
The Hero of Canton, the man they call Jayne
Now here is what separates heroes
From common folk like you and I
The man they call Jayne
He turned ’round his plane
And let that money hit sky
He dropped it onto our houses
He dropped it into our yards
And the man they call Jayne
He turned round his plane
And headed out for the stars
He robbed from the rich and he gave to the poor
Stood up to the Man and he gave him what for
Our love for him now ain’t hard to explain
The Hero of Canton, the man they call Jayne!
Christian Conservative
February 19th, 2013
2:58 pm
JamVet:
You can try and change the meaning of what our nation was founded on. Its the liberal way… But it won’t work. This is a nation founded on Judeo-Christian values… Get over it.. Its history sport…
Peadawg
February 19th, 2013
2:58 pm
“We should value life and the sanctity of marriage”
Translation: We should be able to tell women what to do and discriminate against homosexuals.
F’ing Bible thumpers…
Paul
February 19th, 2013
2:59 pm
indigo 2:48
I try to not berate, just question. If you reread the thread, you will notice I do plenty of that. Similar to you, I try to limit it to those who set themselves up as self-appointed enforcers.
Regarding the link, the topic was ‘who wrote the NT books’?’ Didn’t see where that was addressed. The question was asked but not answered. I also noticed much of the underlying material was dated, sometimes by decades. For example, “We don’t know much about how the debate over canonization progressed. ” We actually know quite a bit. ‘Lost Christianities: The Battle for Scripture and the Faiths We Never Knew” by Dr. Bart Ehrman handles it in some depth.
Brosephus™
February 19th, 2013
3:00 pm
Doom: This isn’t about race. My only point to uh huh is that the people who have the most faith in Obama are also the ones being let down the most.
Really??? That 2:22 post of yours sound an awful lot like you think it’s all about race. You’re the one that made the proclamation: “My only point to Granny is that Obama garnered overwhelming black votes(97% I believe) and that ironically black America is suffering more than anyone under Obama. Its just a shame that the people who had the most faith in him are the ones being let down the most.”
That sounds like race is what it’s all about from my view, because it sure doesn’t seem as though it’s all about the hokey pokey when you read your words.
Christian Conservative
February 19th, 2013
3:01 pm
Cheesy Grits is gone but not forgotten
WRONG. We live in a nation where man Americans choose to be Christians but that is all.
Exactly right JamVet.
The founding fathers were liberals and weren’t all that religious.
Washington rarely attended Church and Jefferson …. please.
They saw an opportunity to create a new democratic nation and where did most of thier inspiration come from.
Not the bible but ancient Republics of Rome and Greece.
You can even see it in the architecture in DC. Its everywhere.
I always though libs were delusional and didn’t understand the ways of the world but this is laughable. You people won’t even acknowledge history.
RB from Gwinnett
February 19th, 2013
3:01 pm
“Has he objected?”
Has it ever occured to you all these storms are actually God’s wrath trying to get our attention? If you read the Bible, it’s full of examples of God using things we would call “natural disasters” to steer his people in the right direction. Floods, earthquakes, plagues. It’s all in there.
Do you think all the people who died in the great flood blamed Bush for all that rain like you libs do these days?
Granny Godzilla
February 19th, 2013
3:01 pm
Christian Conservative
February 19th, 2013
2:58 pm
JamVet:
You can try and change the meaning of what our nation was founded on. Its the liberal way… But it won’t work. This is a nation founded on Judeo-Christian values… Get over it.. Its history sport…
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Founded on? Nope.
Observant of? I could say yes to that.
Cheesy Grits is gone but not forgotten
February 19th, 2013
3:01 pm
This is a nation founded on Judeo-Christian values… Get over it.. Its history sport…
It most certainly is not.
Cheesy Grits is gone but not forgotten
February 19th, 2013
3:02 pm
Has it ever occured to you all these storms are actually God’s wrath trying to get our attention?
And the crazy begins.
Let me guess 9/11 was because of the homos in NYC
alex
February 19th, 2013
3:02 pm
Granny, what type of “world class service”, and what do you train, e.g. It, or customer service or health mangement…
getalife
February 19th, 2013
3:02 pm
“Tea Party Portrays Karl Rove As A Nazi” HP
gop civil war is raising and they want to split the party.
msnbc hired Axe to counter rove is a smart move.
Granny Godzilla
February 19th, 2013
3:03 pm
RB from Gwinnett
February 19th, 2013
3:01 pm
“Has he objected?”
Has it ever occured to you all these storms are actually God’s wrath trying to get our attention? If you read the Bible, it’s full of examples of God using things we would call “natural disasters” to steer his people in the right direction. Floods, earthquakes, plagues. It’s all in there.
Do you think all the people who died in the great flood blamed Bush for all that rain like you libs do these days?
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Could be, but if so, they are meant for YOU.
Common Sense isn't very Common
February 19th, 2013
3:03 pm
P’Dawg
Like I have said before. You have come a long way.
Cheesy Grits is gone but not forgotten
February 19th, 2013
3:04 pm
If you read the Bible
The bible was written by men to promote Christianity
Nothing more.
Granny Godzilla
February 19th, 2013
3:04 pm
alex
February 19th, 2013
3:02 pm
Granny, what type of “world class service”, and what do you train, e.g. It, or customer service or health mangement…
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it matters not what industry…..
Peadawg
February 19th, 2013
3:05 pm
This ended up at the end of page 7. I’m re-posting it to make sure the self-righteous little pr*k called “Christian” Conservative sees this:
“We should value life and the sanctity of marriage”
Translation: We should be able to tell women what to do and discriminate against homosexuals.
F’ing Bible thumpers…
Keep Up the Good Fight!
February 19th, 2013
3:05 pm
Cheesy, now now…. when God sent that storm to try to wipe of the RNC convention, he was steering people away from attending, right?
Brosephus™
February 19th, 2013
3:05 pm
NoCom @ 2:40
That’s why you’re supposed to use permanent marker. That sh*t never comes off!!!!
getalife
February 19th, 2013
3:05 pm
alex,
Mind your own business con.
комиссар (Occupation)
February 19th, 2013
3:06 pm
Itchy Finger: “Only in the world of liberals is this possible….”
Oh, and what world is that?
Cheesy Grits is gone but not forgotten
February 19th, 2013
3:06 pm
Cheesy, now now…. when God sent that storm to try to wipe of the RNC convention, he was steering people away from attending, right?
I guess so.
He does work in mysterious ways LOLOL
Jayne Cobb
February 19th, 2013
3:07 pm
The ideas appear in three separate draft bills, obtained Monday by the Miami Herald, that closely resemble many of the reforms advanced in 2011 by Obama and, more recently, by Republican Florida Sen. Marco Rubio.
Both Rubio and Obama, for instance, support special pathways to residency for those students and soldiers who were brought illegally to this country as children. In the White House draft legislation, the proposal closely resembles what’s known as the DREAM Act.
But in a sign of the politically fragile talks over immigration reform, Rubio reacted with a measure of fury Saturday when the proposals were first reported by USA Today.
“President Obama’s leaked immigration proposal is disappointing to those of us working on a serious solution,” Rubio said in a written statement that mischaracterized the White House’s involvement in disseminating the bills.
Peadawg
February 19th, 2013
3:07 pm
RB from Gwinnett
February 19th, 2013
3:01 pm
What’s your opinion on the hurricane that almost wiped out the RNC last Summer?
Joe Hussein Mama
February 19th, 2013
3:07 pm
C. Conservative — “Simple. We should value life and the sanctity of marriage… Something your party does not…”
B. Obama — still on first wife
N. Gingrich — on third wife and counting.
“You can try and change the meaning of what our nation was founded on. Its the liberal way… But it won’t work. This is a nation founded on Judeo-Christian values…”
Fortunately, there’s no mention of that in the Constitution, which is the foundation of all law in this nation. If we *were* founded on such values, it’d be mentioned in the Constitution, but it’s not.
So we aren’t. Too bad for you.
Christian Conservative
February 19th, 2013
3:07 pm
Granny Godzilla
Founded on? Nope.
Observant of? I could say yes to that.
That’s your opinion. I don’t agree….
barking frog
February 19th, 2013
3:08 pm
If the Bible is true and all the people on the Ark were Jews
then we are all Jews.
Christian Conservative
February 19th, 2013
3:09 pm
Here’s a list of numerous references of GOD and Christianity by our founders… But they weren’t religious according to libs…
http://christianity.about.com/od/independenceday/a/foundingfathers.htm
alex
February 19th, 2013
3:09 pm
Yes it does, don’t think “world class service” in burger making is equivalent to let’s say heart transplantation. No Granny, not all jobs are equal, some are more important.
Cheesy Grits is gone but not forgotten
February 19th, 2013
3:09 pm
That’s your opinion. I don’t agree….
Your wrong.
I think we all agree on that.
Butch Cassidy (I)
February 19th, 2013
3:10 pm
Christian Conservative – “That’s your opinion. I don’t agree….”
SHOCKER!!!!!
Granny Godzilla
February 19th, 2013
3:10 pm
Christian Conservative
February 19th, 2013
3:07 pm
Granny Godzilla
Founded on? Nope.
Observant of? I could say yes to that.
That’s your opinion. I don’t agree….
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I’ll alert the media.
God already knows.
snicker
Thomas
February 19th, 2013
3:10 pm
I miss Cynthia Tucker- where is she?
Does she ever blog here?
alex
February 19th, 2013
3:11 pm
Blog threats via an opinion column, getalife–thanks for the humor…..
DebbieDoRight - Minister Of Propaganda
February 19th, 2013
3:11 pm
SoCoBro: I’m so tired of this sh*t, I wish they would just go ahead and completely f**k up the country already. Maybe then we can rid ourselves of the rigid ideologues who can’t seem to understand they don’t have all the correct answers all the time.
Bro – The GOP is committing suicide via a slow tortuous method.
“It’s like they have a loaded gun in their mouths, and they like the taste of metal.” (a la RD Jr.)
The only problem with their slow painful demise is the fact that they’re trying to take the whole country with them.
A murder / suicide in the making.
JamVet
February 19th, 2013
3:11 pm
Your always fact-devoid opinions, though interesting, are useless,non-sport.
But as it is a free country, I very much encourage you to continue to pollute and pervert your religion as much as you choose. And given the precipitous drop in church attendance, you are doing a great job.
At one time it was thought that this right merely proscribed the preference of one Christian sect over another, but would not require equal respect for the conscience of the infidel, the atheist, or the adherent of a non-Christian faith such as Mohammedism or Judaism. But when the underlying principle has been examined in the crucible of litigation, the Court has unambiguously concluded that the individual freedom of conscience protected by the First Amendment embraces the right to select any religious faith or none at all. ~Justice John Paul Stevens, 1985, Wallace v. Jaffree
Bad news for you, we have a democracy, not a theocracy…
Joe Hussein Mama
February 19th, 2013
3:12 pm
C. Conservative — “Here’s a list of numerous references of GOD and Christianity by our founders… But they weren’t religious according to libs…”
Lies make baby jebus cry.
Many of them were religious. Some were even christian. But they didn’t found a christian nation, or even a judeo-christian one.
Ever wonder why the words “god” and “jesus” can’t be found in the Constitution, pal?
Paul
February 19th, 2013
3:12 pm
Christian Conservative
““We should value life and the sanctity of marriage””
What does that mean as far as
- the death penalty, especially given the numbers of people released from prison because DNA evidence showed them as ‘not guilty’?
- providing health care for infants and children, many with debilitating conditions, with parents unable to afford treatment?
Two’s enough for now.
barking frog
February 19th, 2013
3:12 pm
Thomas
I miss Cynthia Tucker- where is she?
………………………………………………………..
google Cynthia tucker blog….
Cheesy Grits is gone but not forgotten
February 19th, 2013
3:12 pm
But they weren’t religious according to libs…
Oh they were.
They just didn’t found the country on Christianity. Their ancestors had to escape from the Church of England.
They knew all too well the dangers of mixing Religion and Government.
And so they kept it out.
And yes some of the founding fathers weren’t very Religious at all.
Ive read a lot more on this subject than you I can assure you of that.
And people who believe this country was founded on Christian beliefs are doing so for two reasons.
1. It promotes their own Religion
2. They dont know any better.
Class dismissed.
RB from Gwinnett
February 19th, 2013
3:13 pm
“What’s your opinion on the hurricane that almost wiped out the RNC last Summer? ”
It blows.
Itchy Finger
February 19th, 2013
3:13 pm
Cheesy Grits is gone but not forgotten
That’s your opinion. I don’t agree….
Your wrong.
I think we all agree on that.
No your wrong. I’m with CC even though I not that big of a church goer. You fruits are idiots…
Granny Godzilla
February 19th, 2013
3:14 pm
alex
February 19th, 2013
3:09 pm
Yes it does, don’t think “world class service” in burger making is equivalent to let’s say heart transplantation. No Granny, not all jobs are equal, some are more important.
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.Correct – not all jobs are as important as others,
but world class service can be found
in the lowliest burger shack
or the Ritz
or Apple
or Johns Hopkins…..
The basics are the same, only the budgets differ.
Peadawg
February 19th, 2013
3:15 pm
“Does she ever blog here?”
No, thank goodness. I don’t have to see her on AJC anymore.
Joe Hussein Mama
February 19th, 2013
3:16 pm
I. Finger — “You fruits are idiots…”
I LOVE that voter outreach program of yours.
Pleasepleaseplease tell me the GOP is running with that for 2014.
DebbieDoRight - Minister Of Propaganda
February 19th, 2013
3:16 pm
If the Bible is true and all the people on the Ark were Jews
then we are all Jews.
Interesting. I’ve never thought of that angle.
Check out the big brains on der frog!!
Sending you some Ribbit Love there froggie! **Ribbit love is like Muskrat love but with, you know, frogs.
schumpeter
February 19th, 2013
3:17 pm
I see getalife is a financial advisor, for me I don’t see how the fed can get any easier ( not like that little viennese tart sitting next to me)….Easy money,easy life—I’ve got one…..
barking frog
February 19th, 2013
3:18 pm
DDR
frog love involves a lot of tongue….
bulls_eye
February 19th, 2013
3:19 pm
Perfect golf pair; Tiger and Obama. One screws around with bimbos while the other screws the middle class…
Ozzy Osbourne
February 19th, 2013
3:20 pm
I just talked to Jesus, man, and he said somebody’s
goin off the rails on a crazy train.
Roight. Sounds like a song, mate.
Play it backwards and you get gay married
SHA-A-A-RON
Keep Up the Good Fight!
February 19th, 2013
3:21 pm
Why Pea does not realize that we have been informed numerous times that Granny is CT. Are you suggesting she may not be. Some heads are gonna splode, so think before answering.
Thulsa Doom
February 19th, 2013
3:22 pm
“Really??? That 2:22 post of yours sound an awful lot like you think it’s all about race. You’re the one that made the proclamation: “
Brocephus,
You didn’t read back far enough. My response there was to Uh huh’s post at 2:01 who started into all the racial bit about there being more whites on food stamps than blacks and that blacks couldn’t get jobs because whites won’t hire them and yadda yadda yadda- that crap from him was just some crazy stuff that came out of left field. It had nothing to do with anything. Regardless though lets just be done with it already. Its just a waste of time.
barking frog
February 19th, 2013
3:22 pm
Keep Up
Granny may only be a clone…..
levels of blackness
February 19th, 2013
3:24 pm
Not when the puppet master pulls the heart strings of
the stuck on stupid masses (ie. Lefty)
Christian Conservative
February 19th, 2013
3:25 pm
Cheesy Grits is gone but not forgotten
But they weren’t religious according to libs…
Oh they were.
They just didn’t found the country on Christianity. Their ancestors had to escape from the Church of England.
They knew all too well the dangers of mixing Religion and Government.
And so they kept it out.
And yes some of the founding fathers weren’t very Religious at all.
Ive read a lot more on this subject than you I can assure you of that.
And people who believe this country was founded on Christian beliefs are doing so for two reasons.
1. It promotes their own Religion
2. They dont know any better.
Class dismissed.
Obviously you didn’t read the many comments of our religious founders. Its obvious that this country and its origins come form Christianity. I realize you people on the secular left won’t admit it or simply ignore facts but reality is right there to see… If you honestly believe the way you do why haven’t you removed any reference of GOD from all government buildings and documents? It’s a simple question which I’m sure you can’t answer…
Now put some more cheese in them grits…
Granny Godzilla
February 19th, 2013
3:28 pm
barking frog
February 19th, 2013
3:22 pm
Keep Up
Granny may only be a clone…..
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More than one of me?
Good Lord….Don’t tell Mr.G.
He’s good but he ain’t THAT good!
barking frog
February 19th, 2013
3:28 pm
You may not have cheesy grits but instead, gritty cheese,
depending on how you cut the cheese……
Keep Up the Good Fight!
February 19th, 2013
3:30 pm
Granny, he may want one of the younger versions too.
I’d like a younger version of me but gotta keep the knowledge and experience.
barking frog
February 19th, 2013
3:31 pm
Granny Godzilla
I believe Mr G would put forth his best effort…..
Conservative Christian
February 19th, 2013
3:32 pm
Ok I, am ashamed. I just re-looked at my bible and it teaches not to judge others. And here I am judging liberals, acting pious, and not acting Christ like.
I am truly sorry, I am a hypocrite.
Krystal'sBalls
February 19th, 2013
3:33 pm
Funny how those who claim the president only wants to SPEND, spend, spend are the same ones that want to now try to bash him for now ultimately doing a massive CUT, CUT, CUT (by proxy).
Make up your damned minds. I say at this point as the king of funk George Clinton did
“Two tears in a bucket, F-it! Let’s take it to the stage.”
Adam
February 19th, 2013
3:33 pm
In other news, capitalist cronies are dealt a crippling blow in Georgia: http://m.chronicle.augusta.com/news/crime-courts/2013-02-19/us-supreme-court-rules-against-georgia-hospital-deal
Granny Godzilla
February 19th, 2013
3:34 pm
Keep Up the Good Fight!
February 19th, 2013
3:30 pm
Granny, he may want one of the younger versions too. I’d like a younger version of me but gotta keep the knowledge and experience.
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Shhhhh…don’t tell him that….I was pretty cute when I was younger
barking frog
February 19th, 2013
3:31 pm
Granny Godzilla
I believe Mr G would put forth his best effort…..
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Yessir yabetcha!
barking frog
February 19th, 2013
3:35 pm
Conservative Christian
I am truly sorry, I am a hypocrite
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Now go and sin no more….
Itchy Finger
February 19th, 2013
3:35 pm
The thing with libs and religion is that I don’t understand what they see wrong with it. I mean if you can live your life believing that life is a gift from GOD and that homo marriage is repulsive then whats wrong with that. Why do libs want to do away with it when the Constitution clearly states people have a right to it….
Steve
February 19th, 2013
3:35 pm
(giggle)
Brosephus™
February 19th, 2013
3:36 pm
Doom
I read that post. He’s factually correct on more Whites being on welfare than Blacks. I disagree with the hiring crap that he said, but that’s his view. Your response, regardless, still makes it sound as though you think Black people are in desperate or dire need for Obama to save them.
What’s different from Obama when compared to Bush, Clinton, HW Bush, or Reagan? Blacks were in the same situation under those presidents as they are under Obama. I have no problem with dropping the topic. I’m just curious as to why people think that Obama is supposed to be “Capt. Save-the-Blacks” when his job is to be president for all of America.
Steve
February 19th, 2013
3:36 pm
When someone posts something as ludicrous as “we are a Christian nation,” well – you lost that smidgeon of credibility you had. You have none now.
barking frog
February 19th, 2013
3:39 pm
itchy finger
believe what you want but problems arise when you
try to force those beliefs on others….
Christian Conservative
February 19th, 2013
3:39 pm
Ok I, am ashamed. I just re-looked at my bible and it teaches not to judge others. And here I am judging liberals, acting pious, and not acting Christ like.
I am truly sorry, I am a hypocrite.
Just like a lib… Stealing someone’s handle all to make themselves feel good….
Itchy Finger
February 19th, 2013
3:40 pm
barking frog
itchy finger
believe what you want but problems arise when you
try to force those beliefs on others….
Inform me where that has happened. I’d like to know….
Joe Hussein Mama
February 19th, 2013
3:40 pm
C. Conservative — “Obviously you didn’t read the many comments of our religious founders.”
It’s pretty clear that you haven’t, either.
“Its obvious that this country and its origins come form Christianity.”
And it’s just as obvious, if you read a different set of comments from the Founders, that you’re completely wrong.
“I realize you people on the secular left won’t admit it or simply ignore facts but reality is right there to see…”
It certainly is; such as Thomas Jefferson’s Letter to the Danbury Baptists. There are plenty of counter-examples to the ones you’d no doubt like to cite; I’ve been through them over and over in the last 35+ years.
“If you honestly believe the way you do why haven’t you removed any reference of GOD from all government buildings and documents? It’s a simple question which I’m sure you can’t answer…”
It’s a simple question with several simple answers, which ought to appeal to simple you.
One, it’s not worth the trouble or the cost. Two, the presence or absence of magic words like ‘jebus’ doesn’t prove or substantiate anything. Three, whenever anyone expresses an interest in removing those words, people on your side screech like burned chimpanzees about it.
Then again, John Ashcrofs wasted no time spending gubmint munneez to cover up Justice’s nekkid ta-tas, did he?
But here are some simple questions which I’m sure *you* can’t answer. If money with the word ‘god’ on it and courthouses depicting angels make us a judeo-christian nation, then why aren’t you eating your meals from plates labeled ‘jesus’ or driving a car with a giant cross painted on it? And why haven’t your credit and debit cards been consecrated to christian service?
Surely your diabolical oversights mean that you’re irrevocably damned to party with the rest of us in the Underworld. Have a drink on me.
Adam
February 19th, 2013
3:40 pm
Itchy Finger: The thing with libs and religion is that I don’t understand what they see wrong with it. I mean if you can live your life believing that life is a gift from GOD and that homo marriage is repulsive then whats wrong with that.
Missing context here entirely, but liberals do not have a problem with you having a religion (you’re thinking of militant atheists who think you’re stupid). What they have a problem with is you forcing everyone ELSE to act and speak in a way that enforces religious beliefs, by creating laws against same-sex marriage or “don’t say gay” laws. Or if you say that a fetus or zygote equals a “person” in legal terms.
All of those are hypocritical, btw, as any time a religious person wants to defend their religious “rights” they do so by arguing for equal treatment or free speech – the same arguments used to stop the forcing of the laws I mentioned above.
Erwin's cat
February 19th, 2013
3:40 pm
JHM – Were you doing much air travel around 9/11? I was, and I can assure you that there was security at just about every domestic airport I visited in the 2-3 years before 9/11.
so for the late reply…busy day..Yes I was..actually went international the month before and about a month after 9/11. My point is/was that the security before 9/11 was jr league compared to today. I can’t remember when they started to ask for ID’s (unless international because they always asked for your passport at check in)…but I do remember when they didn’t…and if you saw a dog…it was a drug dog, not a bomb dog
Christian Conservative
February 19th, 2013
3:41 pm
Steve
When someone posts something as ludicrous as “we are a Christian nation,” well – you lost that smidgeon of credibility you had. You have none now.
When someone refutes it, well – you lost all resemblance of a sane informed person….
Joe Hussein Mama
February 19th, 2013
3:42 pm
I. Finger — “Why do libs want to do away with it when the Constitution clearly states people have a right to it…”
What makes you think we want to do away with it?
I’m as atheist as they come on this board and I’ve never said or thought such a thing.
Maybe you don’t know as much as you think you do about atheists.
Paul
February 19th, 2013
3:42 pm
Christian Conservative
“Just like a lib… Stealing someone’s handle all to make themselves feel good….”
He didn’t steal your handle.
He reversed it.
Kinda like you do with the Bible. (
)
Adam
February 19th, 2013
3:43 pm
Brosephus: I’m just curious as to why people think that Obama is supposed to be “Capt. Save-the-Blacks” when his job is to be president for all of America.
This one always puzzled me as well. To me, it seems as though white people are trying to stoke black people into more racial resentment by trying to convince them that Obama is betraying black people, and because he’s black, any black person should be monumentally upset that he isn’t specifically targeting black people to help at all times. Nevermind that if he DID do that, that ALSO stokes racial resentment.
Itchy Finger
February 19th, 2013
3:43 pm
Adam:
Please give me some examples of Christians trying to force their beliefs on the people…
barking frog
February 19th, 2013
3:43 pm
itchy finger
see Adam 3:40
Steve
February 19th, 2013
3:44 pm
LMAO!!
Christian Conservative – where is Jesus in the Constitution? I’m all ears, man.
Erwin's cat
February 19th, 2013
3:45 pm
Adam – What they have a problem with is you forcing everyone ELSE to act and speak in a way that enforces religious beliefs
same could be said about those easily offended atheists that demand that a cross be covered up in the middle of the dessert etc etc…the ones that force their lack of faith on everyone else…that pendulum certainly swings both ways
Itchy Finger
February 19th, 2013
3:45 pm
barking frog:
That’s his opinion without relevant facts….
Joe Hussein Mama
February 19th, 2013
3:45 pm
E. Cat — “My point is/was that the security before 9/11 was jr league compared to today.”
True, but it’s also true that private industry did a s*itty job of it, too. Otherwise, 9/11 would have been balked or detected.
“I can’t remember when they started to ask for ID’s (unless international because they always asked for your passport at check in)…but I do remember when they didn’t…”
TBH, if you were a Delta Platinum back then (I was, and this was long before Delta had a Diamond level), you didn’t even need an ID to board the plane. Just wave the back of your DL Platinum Medallion card under the boarding gate scanner, and it would spit your boarding pass out and check you in without you even having to SPEAK to a DL employee.
That went RIGHT out the window on 9/12.
Adam
February 19th, 2013
3:46 pm
Christian Conservative: When someone refutes it, well – you lost all resemblance of a sane informed person…
Uh, no. We are not and never have been a “Christian Nation.” Even the founding fathers said so in the Treaty of Tripoli.
And by the way, do you think government should be a vehicle from which we help poor people or not? Because if you don’t, you better start admitting that you don’t even WANT us to be a “Christian Nation.”
alex
February 19th, 2013
3:46 pm
Granny, no need to be defensive..your explanation is superfilous…e.G any significance to world class service of say, marketing speedos to the antartica scientist, pretty damn ridiculous, really, unless of course they have monthy “south pole plunge”….Come on granny, service is too banal.
Adam
February 19th, 2013
3:46 pm
Erwin’s Cat: same could be said about those easily offended atheists that demand that a cross be covered up in the middle of the dessert etc etc…the ones that force their lack of faith on everyone else…that pendulum certainly swings both ways
Sure. If it’s private land the government has no business telling people that they can’t have religious imagery on it.
Christian Conservative
February 19th, 2013
3:47 pm
Steve
Christian Conservative – where is Jesus in the Constitution? I’m all ears, man.
Look at the bottom where they referred to the year of our Lord…
http://constitutionus.com/
Adam
February 19th, 2013
3:48 pm
Itchy Finger: Please give me some examples of Christians trying to force their beliefs on the people…
I already gave you examples of what is being attempted in law that enforces ACTION based on religious belief.
josef
February 19th, 2013
3:48 pm
I see DDR and FROG are here, so at least there’ll be some smiles….
And you blithering dingbats and the Judeo-Christian founding of our nation. Of course it has those foundations. It’s a part of Western Civilization. Jeeze. Is it based in/on doctrinaire, narrow and theological principals? L-rd, G-d, no.
A lot of folks would flunk my Granddaddy’s history course the first week in!
Joe Hussein Mama
February 19th, 2013
3:48 pm
I. Finger — “Please give me some examples of Christians trying to force their beliefs on the people…”
Uh, dude, you’re kind of under *orders* to do it.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_commission
Joe Hussein Mama
February 19th, 2013
3:50 pm
Adam — “Sure. If it’s private land the government has no business telling people that they can’t have religious imagery on it.”
And I’ve said as much here several times.
Erwin's cat
February 19th, 2013
3:51 pm
JHM – True, but it’s also true that private industry did a s*itty job of it, too.
well, there is that!
Jay
February 19th, 2013
3:51 pm
blog-keeping sheets upstairs
Christian Conservative
February 19th, 2013
3:51 pm
Adam:
That’s your interpretation Adam. Its simply not mine…..
http://www.christianpost.com/news/atheists-claim-america-not-founded-on-christian-faith-in-new-billboard-64384/
Steve
February 19th, 2013
3:51 pm
CC, really? Try again sparky.
Peadawg
February 19th, 2013
3:52 pm
“Please give me some examples of Christians trying to force their beliefs on the people…”
Discriminating against homosexuals. Trying to control a woman’s uterus. 2 biggies right there.
Christian Conservative
February 19th, 2013
3:52 pm
Steve
CC, really? Try again sparky.
Ignore.. That’s just what you people do….
Steve
February 19th, 2013
3:52 pm
Wow – our founding fathers were Deists, Jesus is not mentioned in our Constitution, a plethora of documentation and writing from the founding fathers extollling the separation of church and state…no state religion. And somehow, some way, Christians proclaim we are a “Christian” nation.
ah,yeah – right.
Adam
February 19th, 2013
3:53 pm
Christian Conservative: That’s your interpretation Adam. Its simply not mine…..
I have two quotes for you that work well in response:
1) “You are entitled to your own opinion, but not your own facts.”
2) “Yes everyone is entitled to their own opinion, but your opinion is wrong.”
Joe Hussein Mama
February 19th, 2013
3:53 pm
C. Conservative — “Look at the bottom where they referred to the year of our Lord…”
What makes you think they meant jebus?
Conservative Christian
February 19th, 2013
3:54 pm
Oh gosh, wrong again. I just read some of Jefferson’s writings to the Danbury Baptists, and yeah – he did say that separation of church and state thing. So, my bad. I was wrong. Jesus teaches humility and that pride is a sin, so I’m going to follow those teachings now and stop being a hypocrite and admit when wrong. My bad, guys.
Adam
February 19th, 2013
3:56 pm
The strongest historical influence of our Constitution was a combination of the Roman Republic and the English legal system which relied heavily on precedent and common law. It is still unique in many ways, but it is not “founded” on the Christian religion, and the Treaty of Tripoli wasn’t the founding fathers LYING, as is implied by any rebuttal to the Treaty of Tripoli.
Itchy Finger
February 19th, 2013
3:56 pm
Peadawg
“Please give me some examples of Christians trying to force their beliefs on the people…”
Discriminating against homosexuals. Trying to control a woman’s uterus. 2 biggies right there.
Where? You mean by redefining the meaning of marriage so homo’s could be happy. Now who is exactly forcing their beliefs upon people? You mean by protecting the sanctity of life instead of destroying it for inconvenience. Ok man you got me there….
Adam
February 19th, 2013
3:58 pm
JHM: What makes you think they meant jebus?
Let’s be fair, “year of our Lord” is definitely a reference to Jesus. Of course, by that time it was just standard numerical measurement and still is today. Interesting still is the fact that we no longer say “year of our Lord.” That phrase after about 1750 or so was merely a way of stating the year formally, which is why we eventually dispensed with it.
Brosephus™
February 19th, 2013
3:58 pm
Adam
You hit it right on the head!!! I scratch my head at those who attempt to stoke those resentments knowing that the actions they’re talking about would cause the sh*t to hit the fan if he did those things.
Peadawg
February 19th, 2013
3:58 pm
“you got me there”
I know. You surrender is noted.
Christian Conservative
February 19th, 2013
3:58 pm
Good bye all. Time to go give blood which is yet another noble thing us Christians do. Hopefully you people on the secular left will wise up someday and realize just how wrong and pathetic you people are by attacking Christians….
Adam
February 19th, 2013
3:58 pm
Itchy Finger: You mean by redefining the meaning of marriage so homo’s could be happy. Now who is exactly forcing their beliefs upon people?
Uh… no one? You can still get hetero married if you want.
Itchy Finger
February 19th, 2013
3:59 pm
Peadawg
“you got me there”
I know. You surrender is noted.
LOL…
Peadawg
February 19th, 2013
4:00 pm
Hopefully you people on the “Christian” Right will wise up someday and realize just how wrong and pathetic you people are by attacking homosexuals, women, Latinos, blacks….I could go on and on.
Itchy Finger
February 19th, 2013
4:00 pm
Adam:
Sue you can. But again redefining something that’s been around for generations to prop up a repulsive dangerous lifestyle… You fruits on the left think its right while 30+ states think its wrong….
Joe Hussein Mama
February 19th, 2013
4:01 pm
C. Conservative — “Hopefully you people on the secular left will wise up someday and realize just how wrong and pathetic you people are by attacking Christians….”
If you think I’ve attacked you, then by all means show me where.
williebkind
February 19th, 2013
4:02 pm
I love it when atheists start talking about the Bible. It is so cute!
Peadawg
February 19th, 2013
4:02 pm
Y’all ever notice how today’s arguments against gay marriage are eerily similar to arguments against blacks back in the 50s and 60s?
Granny Godzilla
February 19th, 2013
4:03 pm
alex
February 19th, 2013
3:46 pm
Granny, no need to be defensive..your explanation is superfilous…e.G any significance to world class service of say, marketing speedos to the antartica scientist, pretty damn ridiculous, really, unless of course they have monthy “south pole plunge”….Come on granny, service is too banal
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Defensive? What? Where? How?
Banal? That’s the kind of attitude that would get you fired.
Steve
February 19th, 2013
4:03 pm
Don’t let the door hit you on the way out, CC.
Itchy Finger
February 19th, 2013
4:03 pm
Peadawg
Hopefully you people on the “Christian” Right will wise up someday and realize just how wrong and pathetic you people are by attacking homosexuals, women, Latinos, blacks….I could go on and on.
Give me some evidence sport. I believe marriage should be between one man and one woman. You fruits don’t That’s not attacking…
Next….
Steve
February 19th, 2013
4:04 pm
I find it interesting that pointing out the hypocrisy of others who are rudely attacking you, is akin to attacking them…
Adam
February 19th, 2013
4:04 pm
Itchy Finger: But again redefining something that’s been around for generations to prop up a repulsive dangerous lifestyle… You fruits on the left think its right while 30+ states think its wrong….
Argumentum ad populum is a logical fallacy.
Anyway, marriage has been redefined many times over plenty of times before now, even in our 200+ year history as a nation. And always for good reasons (women no longer property, mixed marriages allowed, women can have half property by default in a divorce, daughters no longer property, etc)
Adam
February 19th, 2013
4:05 pm
Y’all ever notice how today’s arguments against gay marriage are eerily similar to arguments against blacks back in the 50s and 60s?
Yup.
In 40 years the conservatives will be claiming they pioneered the gay marriage revolution!
Joe Hussein Mama
February 19th, 2013
4:05 pm
I. Finger — “But again redefining something that’s been around for generations to prop up a repulsive dangerous lifestyle…”
You might not like it, but it’s been around for many, many generations as well.
‘Tradition’ was used as a defense for slavery, too.
williebkind
February 19th, 2013
4:07 pm
“Hopefully you people on the “Christian” Right will wise up someday and realize just how wrong and pathetic you people are by attacking homosexuals, women, Latinos, blacks….I could go on and on.”
Please do lies fascinate me!! I get all warm and fuzzy when I hear atheist spout their intelligence.
williebkind
February 19th, 2013
4:09 pm
“‘Tradition’ was used as a defense for slavery, too.”
Really, I was under the impression only the rich and government owned slaves. But I could be a liberal.
Peadawg
February 19th, 2013
4:10 pm
“I get all warm and fuzzy when I hear atheist spout their intelligence.”
I’m most definitely not an atheist.
Joe Hussein Mama
February 19th, 2013
4:10 pm
williebkind — “I love it when atheists start talking about the Bible. It is so cute!”
You say that as if you think none of us have ever bothered to read it.
If that’s what you think, then you’re very wrong.
williebkind
February 19th, 2013
4:11 pm
“Y’all ever notice how today’s arguments against gay marriage are eerily similar to arguments against blacks back in the 50s and 60s?
Yup.
In 40 years the conservatives will be claiming they pioneered the gay marriage revolution!”
As a minority that is insulting comparing sex to race. You have a choice of having sex but you cannot have a choice of what race your are. Again only an atheist liberal can see a connection like that.
Itchy Finger
February 19th, 2013
4:11 pm
Joe Hussein Mama
I. Finger — “But again redefining something that’s been around for generations to prop up a repulsive dangerous lifestyle…”
You might not like it, but it’s been around for many, many generations as well.
‘Tradition’ was used as a defense for slavery, too.
Just like a lib… Bring up a reference that irrelevant to the debate… You people are laughable…
Joe Hussein Mama
February 19th, 2013
4:12 pm
williebkind — “Really, I was under the impression only the rich and government owned slaves.”
So then, only the rich and the government can get married?
Adam
February 19th, 2013
4:12 pm
williebkind: You have a choice of having sex but you cannot have a choice of what race your are. Again only an atheist liberal can see a connection like that.
For the record, I’m not an atheist either.
And only a conservative refuses to separate HAVING sex from sexual orientation.
Itchy Finger
February 19th, 2013
4:12 pm
williebkind
“Y’all ever notice how today’s arguments against gay marriage are eerily similar to arguments against blacks back in the 50s and 60s?
Yup.
In 40 years the conservatives will be claiming they pioneered the gay marriage revolution!”
As a minority that is insulting comparing sex to race. You have a choice of having sex but you cannot have a choice of what race your are. Again only an atheist liberal can see a connection like that.
Its also insulting comparing behavior to skin color…. But that’s what libs do…..
Adam
February 19th, 2013
4:13 pm
Itchy Finger: Its also insulting comparing behavior to skin color…. But that’s what libs do…..
Again, behavior and sexual orientation are not the same thing.
williebkind
February 19th, 2013
4:13 pm
“You say that as if you think none of us have ever bothered to read it.
If that’s what you think, then you’re very wrong.”
Well if you atheists/liberals read the Bible like you read the constitution then I can understand your reading comprehension problem.
Joe Hussein Mama
February 19th, 2013
4:14 pm
Williebkind — “You have a choice of having sex but you cannot have a choice of what race your are. Again only an atheist liberal can see a connection like that.”
When did you choose to be straight, willie?
Steve
February 19th, 2013
4:14 pm
LOL – love the right wing counter arguments. They are more like “I’m rubber, you’re glue” then anything else. Truly banjo playing/deliverance-like.
Adam
February 19th, 2013
4:14 pm
Well if you atheists/liberals read the Bible like you read the constitution then I can understand your reading comprehension problem.
CLASSIC projection
Peadawg
February 19th, 2013
4:14 pm
“Again only an atheist liberal can see a connection like that.”
And again, not an atheist OR a liberal.
Keep trying.
Joe Hussein Mama
February 19th, 2013
4:15 pm
williebkind — “Well if you atheists/liberals read the Bible like you read the constitution then I can understand your reading comprehension problem.”
If you’re credulous enough to believe whatever you read in a book, then it’s no wonder you’re as clueless as you appear to be, willie.
williebkind
February 19th, 2013
4:15 pm
“Again, behavior and sexual orientation are not the same thing.”
Is this a new science you came up with. Do you have a consesus because you dont have facts.
ODD OWL
February 19th, 2013
4:16 pm
President Barack Obama and the Democrats are telling America, lets acknowledge that we have serious problems and FIX them… The Republicans choose to deny the problems.. The Republicans prefer to play politics, scape goat, point the finger and blame the Democrats… The President should use his executive powers and suspend Congress until after the summer recess… Bring them back for the fall session after labor day… The President’s executive powers will allow him to fix many of the problems that America is experiencing because of Republican filibustering, intransigence and obstructionism…
williebkind
February 19th, 2013
4:16 pm
Peadawg
February 19th, 2013
4:14 pm
Are you talking to yourself?
Peadawg
February 19th, 2013
4:16 pm
“When did you choose to be straight, willie? ”
This is always a fun question.
Itchy Finger
February 19th, 2013
4:16 pm
The thing that gets me with the homo lifestyle is that its dangerous. Just like smoking and being overweight. Yet we chastise these people that partake in those particular activities yet libs want to coddle and praise the homo lifestyle. Its irrational thought…..
Steve
February 19th, 2013
4:16 pm
Seeing that I’ve read both, and one says not to judge another and to give up all your belongings and help the poor, while the other says nothing about Jesus or how America has a state religion like the country we were trying to get away from (England), then, enough said…
Peadawg
February 19th, 2013
4:17 pm
williebkind
February 19th, 2013
4:16 pm
Nope, I’m correcting your ASSumptions about me.
williebkind
February 19th, 2013
4:18 pm
“If you’re credulous enough to believe whatever you read in a book, then it’s no wonder you’re as clueless as you appear to be, willie.”
Just where did you get your knowledge–from scrolls or dried mud.
Peadawg
February 19th, 2013
4:19 pm
Itchy Finger
February 19th, 2013
4:16 pm
You too…when did you choose to be straight and live the straight lifestyle?
Itchy Finger
February 19th, 2013
4:19 pm
Peadawg
“When did you choose to be straight, willie? ”
This is always a fun question.
I’ll answer that. Common sense….
williebkind
February 19th, 2013
4:19 pm
““When did you choose to be straight, willie? ”
This is always a fun question.”
Ahhh the liberals play on words….bless your heart.
williebkind
February 19th, 2013
4:21 pm
“When did you choose to be straight, willie? ”
Darwin made me do it.
Brosephus™
February 19th, 2013
4:21 pm
I smell a red card coming for name jacking @ 4:18….
Peadawg
February 19th, 2013
4:22 pm
Notice neither Itchy nor willie can answer the questions…
Peadawg
February 19th, 2013
4:22 pm
Enter your comments here
williebkind
February 19th, 2013
4:23 pm
As a practicing Christain, I see homosexuality as disgusting behavior.
Peadawg
February 19th, 2013
4:23 pm
Brosephus™
February 19th, 2013
4:21 pm
CC had his name-jacked twice early by someone and nothings been done….
Peadawg
February 19th, 2013
4:23 pm
“As a practicing Christain, I see homosexuality as disgusting behavior”
Cool story bro. When did you choose not to behave like that?
Joe Hussein Mama
February 19th, 2013
4:24 pm
I. Finger — “The thing that gets me with the homo lifestyle is that its dangerous. Just like smoking and being overweight.”
Do you lecture people in public for being gay? For smoking? For being overweight?
Do you think that smokers and fat people shouldn’t get married?
“Yet we chastise these people that partake in those particular activities yet libs want to coddle and praise the homo lifestyle.”
Who said that? Not I.
“Its irrational thought…..”
It certainly would be, if I thought that way — which I don’t.
That Black Guy
February 19th, 2013
4:24 pm
Steve
February 19th, 2013
12:31 pm
RB, how is Obama “King” when your dufus President called himself “The Decider”? Really?
(and note that GWB pronounced “nuclear” as “noo-cue-ler”, brainiac that he was)
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“corpsemen” says “what”?
Joe Hussein Mama
February 19th, 2013
4:25 pm
williebkind — “Just where did you get your knowledge–from scrolls or dried mud.”
Willie, I believe that the scrolls-and-dried-mud is more theist territory than atheist territory.
Brosephus™
February 19th, 2013
4:25 pm
Peadawg
Only because Jay’s not present at the moment. If Jay catches wind of it, I’m sure he’ll address that one too. One thing he doesn’t allow is name jacking regardless to who’s the victim/perpetrator.
I don’t think we’ve had a multiple red card day for a while. I’m hoping he sees it just to get rid of the jackassery. Anybody that can’t debate straight up without doing childish sh*t like that don’t need to be on the board anyway.
Steve
February 19th, 2013
4:25 pm
Does Conservative Christian = Christian Conservative? Really?
williebkind
February 19th, 2013
4:26 pm
“Notice neither Itchy nor willie can answer the questions…”
You dont have to speak for me liberal, but your toying with words to get a “gotcha” wont work with me. Homosexuality is a chosen behavior. Now what is heterasexuality?
Steve
February 19th, 2013
4:26 pm
So, let me get this “straight.” Folks on here calling people homos and queer and gay is bad etc…that is ok. But posting a screen name with the words reverse = bad?
Wow.
williebkind
February 19th, 2013
4:28 pm
“Willie, I believe that the scrolls-and-dried-mud is more theist territory than atheist territory.”
Ahhh so you read books and got your information from that.
ODD OWL
February 19th, 2013
4:28 pm
Where did the non evidences based Bible thumpers get the idea that their holy book have credibility ??? When scholars subject Christianity to scientific scrutiny, the evidences point towards plagiarism and fabrication… The evidences also suggest that “believers” are ignoramouses…
Peadawg
February 19th, 2013
4:31 pm
“Does Conservative Christian = Christian Conservative? Really?”
You know damn well what the impostor CC meant to do. Don’t play dumb.
Joe Hussein Mama
February 19th, 2013
4:35 pm
williebkind — “Ahhh so you read books and got your information from that.”
I’m intelligent enough not to automatically believe anything I read in a book. You seem to operate differently, however.
Joe Hussein Mama
February 19th, 2013
4:37 pm
williebkind — “Homosexuality is a chosen behavior.”
So you say.
If it’s chosen, then heterosexuality must be chosen as well.
So when did you choose to be straight, willie?
Joe Hussein Mama
February 19th, 2013
4:38 pm
Peadawg — “You know damn well what the impostor CC meant to do. Don’t play dumb.”
Indeed. If it was a regular who did that, then they shall surely incur a blog-o-cation for their efforts.
Granny Godzilla
February 19th, 2013
4:39 pm
AS a practicing Christian I embrace my gay brothers and sisters and wish
them all the love and happiness in the world.
Joe Hussein Mama
February 19th, 2013
4:39 pm
Really — “I’ll answer the question–I suppose I “chose” to be hetero in the same fashion that I “chose” not to be a child molester or a dog raper.”
When and how did you arrive at these momentous choices?
Peadawg
February 19th, 2013
4:41 pm
“Homosexuality is a chosen behavior. ”
JHM @ 4:37 beat me to it.
That Black Guy
February 19th, 2013
4:41 pm
JamVet
February 19th, 2013
1:18 pm
Today’s rhetorical question regarding America’s Christians.
Why is it that the percentage of self-professed Christians in American prisons is higher than the percentage of self-professed Christians in American society?
If they actually lived what their religion preaches it seems that it would be WAY less, no?
Maybe the Christians here have a convincing answer
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Could it be that they accepted a religion AFTER being sent to prison? That’s what I found when I used to go to the prisons with my pastor and some of the elders.
Granny Godzilla
February 19th, 2013
4:42 pm
somebody answers the question with a new name and includes dog rape….
any wagers on whether his breath smells like ALPO or not?
Paul
February 19th, 2013
4:43 pm
williebkind
“As a practicing Christain, I see homosexuality as disgusting behavior.”
Two things here.
1 – homosexuality as a state of being. Gender affiliation.
2 – homosexual practices
I take it by “disgusting behavior” you are speaking of carnal relations between members of the same gender?
If ‘yes’ then it makes no difference if the people involved are heterosexuals, does it?
and… OR…. do you mean people with the identity ‘homosexual’ are disgusting?
If no, you’d be fine with a chaste homosexual?
Granny Godzilla
February 19th, 2013
4:43 pm
Joe Hussein Mama
February 19th, 2013
4:39 pm
Really — “I’ll answer the question–I suppose I “chose” to be hetero in the same fashion that I “chose” not to be a child molester or a dog raper.”
When and how did you arrive at these momentous choices?
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I imagine he figured that out the first time the dog turned around and bit his narglies.
Peadawg
February 19th, 2013
4:46 pm
Granny Godzilla
February 19th, 2013
4:43 pm
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Granny Godzilla
February 19th, 2013
4:52 pm
really?
snicker
Paul
February 19th, 2013
4:55 pm
williebkind?
Shouldn’t take long at all to answer the 4:43.
That Black Guy
February 19th, 2013
4:55 pm
RB from Gwinnett
February 19th, 2013
2:07 pm
That Black Guy, “If Jesus read what you post on this site to those you disagree with, how do you think He would respond? Would He rebuke you or encourage you?”
Give it up already TBG. We’re not falling for the “if you’re a Christian you have to let the liberals roll all over you because Jesus loved everybody” routine. – how about reading WHAT I wrote, instead of what you WISH I wrote.
On the night Jesus was arrested, Peter, who was with Jesus, drew his sword and cut off the ear of one of the men arresting him . Although Jesus told Peter to put his sword away, he wasn’t shocked his diciple had a sword or knew how to use it in the manner he did. To understand the heart of Jesus, you must invite him into your life and your heart TBG. – Are you assuming that I haven’t? If so, what gives you that right?
I don’t get the impression many of you liberals have done that and thus have very little understanding of his teachings and wishes for you/us. – Oh goody, NOW I’m a liberal. Can I at least stay Black? That way I don’t have to change my ID.
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
February 19th, 2013
4:55 pm
Tick…tick…tick….
Joe Hussein Mama
February 19th, 2013
4:57 pm
Really — “Saddam”
There’s no one here named “Saddam.” Your puerile attempt at insult has been noted and dismissed.
“I didn’t have to come to those decisions–that’s the whole point, hence the use of quotation marks. Like I said, some things just go without saying”
Who are you or anyone else to claim that gay people didn’t have to come to those same decisions themselves? Who are you to speak for them?
“i.e., if your desire is to do something unnatural and immoral, then you shouldn’t do it”
Homosexual behavior is noted in many animal species; ergo, it cannot be unnatural.
Homosexual behavior has been considered normative by many different world societies during the course of human history; ergo, your charge of ‘immorality’ is neither universal nor axiomatic.
“(much less advocate for it). I know that having standards is completely rejected in liberal circles”
Your ‘knowledge’ is in error. Your continued attempts to speak for others are noted and rejected.
“but work with me here.”
No, I won’t work with you. Not when you continue to try to speak for others.
Joe Hussein Mama
February 19th, 2013
4:58 pm
K’Chak — “Tick…tick…tick….”
Indeed. I think that Really will get his red card about the same time the namejacker gets theirs.
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
February 19th, 2013
5:03 pm
Joe Hussein Mama
You 4:57 is as fine a piece on pwning as I have witnessed.
That Black Guy
February 19th, 2013
5:09 pm
Christian Conservative February 19th, 2013 2:12 pm
He would probably shake his head in disbelief at how rotten and repulsive our society has become. – He *may* just do that.
As a Christian I will not be bullied and vilified simply because of my beliefs. – Is it ok to *bully and vilify* someone else because of THEIR beliefs?
If someone refutes the greatness and meaningfulness of Christianity they will be put in their place. – Their opinion is as valid as yours.
If you don’t like my comments don’t read them. – Very mature. As a Christian, aren’t you charged with being Christ Iike and bringing others to Christ. Do you think your antics here will inspire others to join the walk with Christ *YOU* display?
I believe and can relate to this passage in the Bible when Jesus said “Forgive them Father, for they know not what they do”. That’s exactly what I think when I read the numerous secular liberal posts on here…. – And I’m sure others, after reading your posts, can relate to this quote. “I like your Christ, I do not like your Christians. Your Christians are so unlike your Christ.” Gandhi
Joe Hussein Mama
February 19th, 2013
5:14 pm
K. Chak — “Joe Hussein Mama You 4:57 is as fine a piece on pwning as I have witnessed.”
Most kind of you, sir. TYVM.
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
February 19th, 2013
5:22 pm
Ruh, roh.
Jay’s got that giant economy sized can of Bon Ami out and he’s scrubbing the blog clean.
Joe Hussein Mama
February 19th, 2013
5:26 pm
Indeed!
I suspect that Really is no longer among us. (snicker)
Fred ™
February 19th, 2013
5:28 pm
Damn. I missed all the fun.
stevie ray
February 19th, 2013
5:28 pm
That Black Guy
If jesus came back today, the modern evangelists would kill him. Jesus wouold embarass them by calling current bs and thus putting a kabash on cash flow
stevie ray
February 19th, 2013
5:30 pm
Blackguy
Why is is it that christians feel the need to push their agenda onto others?
Krystal'sBalls
February 19th, 2013
5:33 pm
“Good bye all. Time to go give blood which is yet another noble thing us Christians do”
It’s also what “wineheads” and druggies do. Had a relative who made it a point to be at the bloodmobile whenever he could, to get $25 in exchange for blood donation so he could get him a “drank”.
Thunderbird maybe?? Ehhh.. he’s probably out of it by now.
Fred ™
February 19th, 2013
5:34 pm
So who got axed?
Fred ™
February 19th, 2013
5:36 pm
I’ll look for Doomy at the speech. He’ll be the one in the speedo I assume……….
Joe Hussein Mama
February 19th, 2013
5:40 pm
Fred — “So who got axed?”
Guy named Really who was dissing the gays just a little while ago and someone who was namejacking Christian Conservative, we think.
ODD OWL
February 19th, 2013
6:00 pm
Republicans don’t have hearts… They have old, wrinkled up, leathery gizzards…
That Black Guy
February 19th, 2013
6:07 pm
stevie ray
February 19th, 2013
5:30 pm
Blackguy
Why is is it that christians feel the need to push their agenda onto others?
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I have no idea. Christians are charged with spreading the Gospel (The Good News). I think many have twisted that message.
We each have to answer for our own actions.
ODD OWL
February 19th, 2013
6:07 pm
There seems to be lots of closeted Gay guys in this blog site today… You can identify them by their use of reverse psychology and subliminal subjective diversionary tactics…
ODD OWL
February 19th, 2013
7:33 pm
I guess all the closeted Gay guys went back into the closet, huh ???
Vast Right Wing Conspiracy (aka "Knuckle-Dragger")
February 19th, 2013
7:49 pm
The end of free stuff – got to be tough.
Its like I went into Costco recently with my rebate check, and then they told me it wasn’t any good. Of course, I would have had good reason to be mad, because I paid for all that stuff to earn the rebate. You liberals can crank up the “occupy” clowns and/or other losers, have them tear up public property, create public health problems, and do all the things they are so well known for – maybe that will help.
Perhaps this is a better idea – the Fed is currently creating about $4 billion a day electronically to pay for democrat largesse – just have them bump it up to $8 billion, $10 billion, whatever y’all need to keep that 47% happy. It would have the further effect of bumping up the stock market (might as well help the 1%), since all corporate debtors would pay back their debts with dollars worth far less than when they borrowed them.
You liberals create all sorts of interesting conundrums.
keith
February 19th, 2013
11:10 pm
the country deserves every thing it bgets by reelecting the buffoon. of course its not entirely certain he was reelected with all the freaks coming out admitting they voted numerous time for the commie.
keith
February 19th, 2013
11:12 pm
Detroit is having a financial emergency. Chicagoans are murdering each other. Liberal leadership at its finest. Coming soon to a neighborhood near you. Thanks to King Barry.