With Hagel filibuster, Senate Republicans shame themselves

Senate Republicans have not merely chosen to filibuster the nomination of Chuck Hagel, himself a former Republican senator, for secretary of Defense. That step alone would be remarkable enough, a serious break with the understandings and traditions of American politics.

What makes it worse is that some among them have tried to justify the filibuster by implying that Hagel has sold himself out to this nation’s enemies. They have challenged his patriotism. They have assaulted his honesty and character, based on no evidence whatsoever. Some in the conservative movement have even funded an anonymous, multi-million-dollar media campaign against Hagel, accusing him of wanting to weaken America. It is a charge that was also aired publicly by former Vice President Dick Cheney.

Chuck Hagel, right, volunteered to fight for his country in Vietnam as an enlisted man, alongside his brother Tom, left. Both men were seriously wounded, earning five Purple Hearts between them.

Chuck Hagel, right, volunteered to fight for his country in Vietnam as an enlisted man, alongside his brother Tom, left. Both men were seriously wounded, earning five Purple Hearts between them.

In Senate confirmation hearings, Sen. Ted Cruz of Texas demanded access to years of Hagel’s financial records, well beyond those requested of any other Cabinet nominee, explaining that “it is at a minimum relevant to know if that $200,000 that he deposited in his bank account came directly from Saudi Arabia, came directly from North Korea.”

Likewise, Sen. Jim Inhofe of Oklahoma noted that Iran had spoken favorably of Hagel, suggesting that it made his former colleague a fellow traveler with the mullahs because “he’s endorsed by them. You can’t get any cozier than that.”

This is the very same Chuck Hagel whom John McCain once lauded as a likely secretary of state in a McCain White House. It is the same Hagel whom Mitch McConnell has praised in the past as a great statesman. It is the same Hagel who volunteered for service in Vietnam, where as an infantry soldier and squad leader he earned two Purple Hearts. It is the same Hagel whose nomination has been endorsed by the most respected names in the Republican foreign-policy establishment, including Gen. Colin Powell, former Defense Secretary Robert Gates, Admiral Brent Scowcroft and former senators Richard Lugar and John Warner. Those men earned their reputations back when the Republican Party was still quite sane on such issues, and they must be privately horrified by what has happened to it since.

Part of this can be explained as payback for Hagel, who dared to break with his party by sharply criticizing both the U.S. decision to invade Iraq and the militaristic, imperial mindset that drove that decision. McCain, Cheney and others viewed that as an act of betrayal. Hagel has also dared to suggest, in public, that the best interests of Israel and the best interests of the United States might not always be in perfect alignment, which is both obviously true and apparently must never be uttered.

At its most basic, however, the GOP decision to filibuster Hagel has little to do with the nominee himself. It is instead an act of foot-stomping, preening petulance by politicians who are frustrated by their own increasing irrelevance. It allows them, for a time, to feel as though they matter. They do not seem to realize that the act itself compounds their political isolation. It becomes further evidence that obstructionism is all they can muster and that their romance with extremism continues.

Put another way, they pull stunts like this because they are frustrated by losing. And they are losing because they pull stunts like this. It’s a spiral that they cannot bring themselves to break.

– Jay Bookman

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комиссар (Occupation)

February 15th, 2013
9:15 am

Elephant in the room here: the Israel lobby.

It’s not really a huge mystery, is it, what is going on?

Are you sure that this is really a matter of “petulance”?

Finn McCool (The System isn't Broken; It's Fixed)

February 15th, 2013
9:15 am

Harry Reid regretting caving on filibuster reform now?

King of Planet Kolob

February 15th, 2013
9:16 am

Give fools enough rope and they will hang themselves.

Steve

February 15th, 2013
9:17 am

Obstructionist Congress.

barking frog

February 15th, 2013
9:17 am

Hagel is not worth fighting over, for either side.

Finn McCool (The System isn't Broken; It's Fixed)

February 15th, 2013
9:18 am

he earned two Purple Hearts.

And how many Purple Hearts did Cheney and W and Rove get in Vietnam?

Peadawg

February 15th, 2013
9:19 am

This has nothing to do with Hagel (as past comments from McCain et al have shown) and has everything to do with stickin’ it to Obama.

King of Planet Kolob

February 15th, 2013
9:20 am

Way back when before I moved to this country, as I watched Newt Gingrich shut down the Gov’t. I leaned one thing: It doesn’t matter who is in the White House, Congress or the Senate; Republicans run the country regardless.

Keep Up the Good Fight!

February 15th, 2013
9:20 am

This one is really going to hurt the false claim that the GOP is strong on defense…. of course the base lunatics will continue to suffer extreme ODS.

Peadawg

February 15th, 2013
9:20 am

“At its most basic, however, the GOP decision to filibuster Hagel has little to do with the nominee himself. It is instead an act of foot-stomping, preening petulance by politicians who are frustrated by their own increasing irrelevance. It allows them, for a time, to feel as though they matter. They do not seem to realize that the act itself compounds their political isolation. It becomes further evidence that obstructionism is all they can muster and that their romance with extremism continues.

Put another way, they pull stunts like this because they are frustrated by losing. And they are losing because they pull stunts like this. It’s a spiral that they cannot bring themselves to break.”

You said it better than my 9:19….

Finn McCool (The System isn't Broken; It's Fixed)

February 15th, 2013
9:20 am

Well, I hope when Hagel does get it he starts by cutting the military bases in SC, AZ, TX,and OK.

Peadawg

February 15th, 2013
9:21 am

Keep…ODS???

Something-dumbars-syndrome?

Gale

February 15th, 2013
9:21 am

The GOP is on track for another whooppin’ in 2014. Only the far right approves of these follies.

TaxPayer

February 15th, 2013
9:21 am

Only two Purple Hearts! Harumphhhh! That’s nothing compared to all the black hearts in the GOP.

Tall

February 15th, 2013
9:24 am

Did anyone listen to the dialogue between Senators Hagel and Graham? I can’t say that Senator Hagel was inspiring. Even the White House wasn’t complimentary.

Stevie Ray the freshly minted bleeding heart liberal!

February 15th, 2013
9:24 am

JAY

Seems to me to be either punishment as you indicate and/or the voices of defense contractors cash who prefer another in a long line of warmongering…”we need a trillion dollar defense budget to be safe” past occupants.

I don’t see scrutiny of financial records from offshore accounts as something to overlook. This should be vetted as this is now a legitimate political football…the use of Cayman or other offshore investment vehicles…rightly or wrongly..

Dharma Bum

February 15th, 2013
9:24 am

Doggone/GA

February 15th, 2013
9:26 am

How can people who have NO shame…”shame themselves”?

Jeffrey

February 15th, 2013
9:26 am

Jay you mentioned the other day that the republicans have refused to confirm the head of the ATF for years In light of the newtown tragedy doesn’t it seem worthy of attention like Benghazi?

southpaw

February 15th, 2013
9:26 am

“At its most basic, however, the GOP decision to filibuster Hagel has little to do with the nominee himself. It is instead an act of foot-stomping, preening petulance by politicians who are frustrated by their own increasing irrelevance.”

Why, then, did they not bother to filibuster John Kerry’s nomination for Secretary of State? You don’t suppose that there was a difference in (gasp) the nominees themselves, do you?

Doggone/GA

February 15th, 2013
9:26 am

Dharma – if you don’t already know about it, look up the Tunguska explosion

Stevie Ray the freshly minted bleeding heart liberal!

February 15th, 2013
9:27 am

Peadawg

February 15th, 2013
9:19 am

Agreed but a minority congress “sticking” it to the other party is an acceptable tactic by all when nothing else works. Why anyone is surprised that one party sticks it to another is a new development baffles me.

Erwin's cat

February 15th, 2013
9:27 am

Put another way, they pull stunts like this because they are frustrated by losing. And they are losing because they pull stunts like this. It’s a spiral that they cannot bring themselves to break.

I guess that’s one opinion

Doggone/GA

February 15th, 2013
9:28 am

“You don’t suppose that there was a difference in (gasp) the nominees themselves, do you?”

Nope. John Kerry’s nomination put up a Democratic seat for grabs. Hagel’s was already held by a Republican.

Mick

February 15th, 2013
9:28 am

**they pull stunts like this because they are frustrated by losing. And they are losing because they pull stunts like this. It’s a spiral that they cannot bring themselves to break.**

The sooner the better, in 2014 let’s finish the job and put republicans back where they belong as the minority party! Then, they can squabble amongst themselves and tea party bretheren for who is the stupidest…

комиссар (Occupation)

February 15th, 2013
9:29 am

Finn McCool: “Harry Reid regretting caving on filibuster reform now?”

The unbelievable weakness, moral and intellectual vacuity, and abject cynicism of the Democrats here is the real “other half” of the story here, if not the whole story itself.

There is so little difference the two parties that this sort of Stalinist, staged absurd spectacle is what you get. It is probably about a number of different things, truly. But one thing it is is a desperate attempt to give the impression to a confused and disoriented public that there still remains a palpable political difference between different political players when there is none. Hagel is a Republican for god’s sake. Barack Obama cannot even get a name approved for Sec Defense who’s a Republican!

That it goes without saying that Barack Obama is just as well suited with a Republican goes uncommented, but it reveals what an utter political non-entity the Democratic party is that these reversals are the norm, and that they pose real branding and image problems for the Republican party, who must flee the embrace of this conservative president at all costs or else suffer an even greater identity breakdown.

too little time

February 15th, 2013
9:30 am

The FAR bigger shame is that Senate Democrats haven’t passed a damn budget in 4 years. I haven’t seen your “shaming” blog on that one yet, Jay. Your hypocrisy (about what the Senate should do) is astounding.

Dharma Bum

February 15th, 2013
9:30 am

Doggone, the 1908 impact was far worse than this… thankfully the injuries appear to be minor and mostly there is just a lot of broken glass… that amateur film on the highway is absolutely stunning!

Erwin's cat

February 15th, 2013
9:31 am

Sen. Ted Cruz of Texas demanded access to years of Hagel’s financial records, well beyond those requested of any other Cabinet nominee,

kinda like demanding to see 20 yrs of Mitt’s returns…eh?

Aquagirl

February 15th, 2013
9:32 am

You don’t suppose that there was a difference in (gasp) the nominees themselves, do you?

Yeah, the difference was personal petty vindictiveness towards Hagel.

If your intention was reinforcing the notion of Republicans as low-comprehension, you’re a resounding success.

Doggone/GA

February 15th, 2013
9:33 am

“The FAR bigger shame is that Senate Democrats haven’t passed a damn budget in 4 years.”

Yeah, it’s just shameful that the haven’t passed something that is completely toothless and has NO EFFECT WHATSOEVER on how the government is run or pays for it’s bills. Just terrible.

southpaw

February 15th, 2013
9:33 am

“John Kerry’s nomination put up a Democratic seat for grabs. ”

So 50+ Democrats wanted to put a Democratic seat up for grabs? Doesn’t sound like a very high priority. Try again.

alex

February 15th, 2013
9:33 am

Jay, did you watch the Hagel hearings?

Doggone/GA

February 15th, 2013
9:34 am

“Doggone, the 1908 impact was far worse than this”

Oh sure…but this one certainly evokes “shade of….”, don’t you think?

Stevie Ray the freshly minted bleeding heart liberal!

February 15th, 2013
9:35 am

too little time

February 15th, 2013
9:30 am

You big silly! Haven’t Jay and others already told you that whether the president actually has to submit a budget doesn’t matter. Get with the program man!

USinUK - former Girl Scout

February 15th, 2013
9:35 am

“This is the very same Chuck Hagel whom John McCain once lauded as a likely secretary of state in a McCain White House. It is the same Hagel whom Mitch McConnell has praised in the past as a great statesman”

no it isn’t … this is Obama’s Chuck Hagel … suspected mooooslem and secret socialist.

Doggone/GA

February 15th, 2013
9:35 am

“So 50+ Democrats wanted to put a Democratic seat up for grabs? Doesn’t sound like a very high priority”

I was not responding to a criticism of the D response. For the GOP, there is a BIG difference between the 2 nominees, but it has nothing to do with the men themselves. Get it now?

комиссар (Occupation)

February 15th, 2013
9:36 am

Aquagirl: “Yeah, the difference was personal petty vindictiveness towards Hagel.”

Petty? And personal?

Don’t know about you, but to me it’s pretty clear that that there is a very clear logic to this exercise. And it’s got nothing to do with “personal” pique.

USinUK - former Girl Scout

February 15th, 2013
9:36 am

“kinda like demanding to see 20 yrs of Mitt’s returns…eh?”

actually, no.

last time I checked, the Sec of State /= the president …

(have things changed since I’ve been gone?)

Doggone/GA

February 15th, 2013
9:37 am

“last time I checked, the Sec of State /= the president …”

And the best part is that Mitt has his Father to thank for starting that whole thing

Lord Help Us

February 15th, 2013
9:38 am

‘kinda like demanding to see 20 yrs of Mitt’s returns…eh?’

Just like it. Oh wait…that expectation was advocated by Mitt’s father…yup, same thing…geez.

RB from Gwinnett

February 15th, 2013
9:38 am

Did anybody else hear the joke of the day: Obama claiming his administration has been the most transparent in history? I fully expected his pants to burst into flames at any moment. What a friggin joke!!!

And the lap-dog media goes right along with their heads firmly lodged between his butt cheeks….

barking frog

February 15th, 2013
9:38 am

Scary that McCain wanted Hagel and now Obama wants Hagel.

Georgia , The "New Mississippi"

February 15th, 2013
9:38 am

The Israel Lobby is making the Senate GOP earn their $$$….. Filibuster the Sec of Defense because educated voters do not value them or their opinions. . These guys earn their ticket to hell on a daily basis.

JamVet

February 15th, 2013
9:39 am

too little time, so you agree that this filibuster is shameful?

I predict that this is going to turn out very badly for the tea soaked GOP. As evidenced by the results of several recent elections, millions and millions of voting Americans are sick of them…

will-o-the-wisp

February 15th, 2013
9:39 am

republican neocon actions honor the unworthy

USinUK - former Girl Scout

February 15th, 2013
9:39 am

“Agreed but a minority congress “sticking” it to the other party is an acceptable tactic by all when nothing else works.”

country be damned.

Corbin Sharpe. I think, therefore I am...I think.

February 15th, 2013
9:39 am

The Republican self image and the image they project to the country is vastly different. This Republican Congress is a is a sham of integrity and a shame for this country.

This Party of God seem to redefine good and evil. It reminds me of this…

http://uberhumor.com/hey-ratheism-i-made-something-for-you-hope-you-guysgals-like-it

southpaw

February 15th, 2013
9:40 am

“If your intention was reinforcing the notion of Republicans as low-comprehension, you’re a resounding success.”

Around here, that notion will be reinforced with or without me.

Herman

February 15th, 2013
9:40 am

Hagel was once a good man, then sold his sole to the devil to support Obama. Hope they say no to this traitor.

Erwin's cat

February 15th, 2013
9:40 am

last time I checked, the Sec of State /= the president …

so the level of scrutiny is dependent on position?…why?…geee you mean Harry Reid making demands and unsubstantiated rumors weren’t driven by party politics?…got it

ITS ALL BUSH'S FAULT

February 15th, 2013
9:41 am

What did you expect from the party of Cowards and draft dodgers..

Bubba

February 15th, 2013
9:41 am

The chickenhawks strike again.

Doggone/GA

February 15th, 2013
9:41 am

“then sold his sole to the devil ”

The devil needs new shoes?

Aquagirl

February 15th, 2013
9:41 am

And it’s got nothing to do with “personal” pique.

Actually John McCain said “”To be honest with you, Neil, it goes back to– there’s a lot of ill will towards Senator Hagel” in a Faux News interview. It’s not like Jay’s statement personal grudges are involved has no basis.

Cheesy Grits is gone but not forgotten

February 15th, 2013
9:42 am

They do this sort of thing all the time.

Look at John Kerry. He served his country honorably.

But they made him out to be a wimp and made W seem like he was a dang war hero.

When in reality it was the exact opposite.

Its straight out of 1984. Doublethink.

Only in the Republican mind is this possible.

breckenridge

February 15th, 2013
9:43 am

Nothing like a bunch of chicken hawks who would have also fought in Vietnam if they hadn’t pulled so many strings to get so many deferments bashing Hagel. How dare he say wars should be avoided if possible!

And so a meteor fell in Russia today. Which “republican” will be the first to tell us it’s a sign the End Times is near? Michele Bachmann please step forward, you’re the next contestant on I’m A Complete Idiot.

barking frog

February 15th, 2013
9:43 am

“then sold his sole to the devil ”
………………………………………..
So that’s why, Hagel shafted the devil. Good man.

Erwin's cat

February 15th, 2013
9:43 am

just like it. Oh wait…that expectation was advocated by Mitt’s father…yup, same thing…geez.

Mitt’s Dad released 12 yrs and no one demanded it, it was volunteered..

fedup

February 15th, 2013
9:44 am

TEA and Koch are loud and clear.

Spiral goes both ways and the cons decided to take the down side.

Erwin's cat

February 15th, 2013
9:44 am

And so a meteor fell in Russia today. Which “republican” will be the first to tell us it’s a sign the End Times is near?

I’d expect some to blame global warming

GT

February 15th, 2013
9:45 am

Obama is a brilliant tactician who bates a trap for his half witted brothers the Republicans who are so predictable. I often wonder with the full circles O runs around these clumsy dinosaurs what a more evil minded enemy must have done to Bush and his Vikings in their day. This is like the hockey team pulling the goalie in a last effort to win a game, nothing to lose; the Republican Party is a cloud of smoke looking for a chimney.

The state of Georgia is in that isolation booth too. No friends that matter, it was strange to even have the president in town yesterday. This state bonds well with other losers, like winos sitting on a corner bragging to other winos. The rest of the world and certainly this country is moving on to prosper while we sit in a stupor trying to figure out which way is up. We are broke, obese and ignorant in this state by design not by an act of God.

RB from Gwinnett

February 15th, 2013
9:45 am

“What did you expect from the party of Cowards and draft dodgers..”

Funny….the majority of the military votes R, yet you still make idiotic comments like that ^^^^^ and actually have the idea you’re smart and nobody will slam the facts in your face. What an idiot!!!

USinUK - former Girl Scout

February 15th, 2013
9:46 am

“so the level of scrutiny is dependent on position?…why?…geee you mean Harry Reid making demands and unsubstantiated rumors weren’t driven by party politics?…got it”

well, yeah.

the president SHOULD go through a lot more scrutiny than anyone else in his administration … or, anyone else in the country for that matter.

I mean, is that really a question??

what unsubstantiated rumors did Harry Reid make? Mitt Romney DID have offshore accounts that we STILL don’t know everything about. And, last time I checked, he hasn’t proven that he DID pay taxes every year for the last 20

Erwin's cat

February 15th, 2013
9:46 am

The devil needs new shoes?
:D :D :D

Cheesy Grits is gone but not forgotten

February 15th, 2013
9:47 am

I’d expect some to blame global warming

That would be pretty dumb.

But someone saying it is the end of days can and will happen.

Just watch.

Big difference.

Erwin's cat

February 15th, 2013
9:47 am

UsinUK – what unsubstantiated rumors did Harry Reid make? Mitt Romney DID have offshore accounts that we STILL don’t know everything about. And, last time I checked, he hasn’t proven that he DID pay taxes every year for the last 20

defend the party no matter

F. Sinkwich

February 15th, 2013
9:48 am

I agree with Dick Cheney:

“CHEYENNE, Wyo. (AP) — Former Vice President Dick Cheney said Saturday night that President Barack Obama has jeopardized U.S. national security by nominating substandard candidates for key cabinet posts and by degrading the U.S. military.”

But that is O’bozo’s objective so in that sense he’s succeeding.

There are only two reasons O’bozo nominated this guy: He is indeed substandard, and when our national security is degraded to the point of impotence, he can blame it on a Republican.

Steve

February 15th, 2013
9:48 am

The Dems don’t have to do anything. Just sit back and watch the GOP continue to bury themselves day after day after day.

JohnnyReb

February 15th, 2013
9:49 am

According to Graham, if one Democrat will come out against Hagel many will follow.

Also in the interview linked below is why Repubs will not give up on Benghazi until the truth comes out.

It all comes down to credibility and that of the Obama administration is melting away each day.

http://www.foxnews.com/on-air/special-report-bret-baier/videos#p/86927/v/2165912976001

Cheesy Grits is gone but not forgotten

February 15th, 2013
9:49 am

Funny….the majority of the military votes R

That is starting to change too.

mm

February 15th, 2013
9:49 am

And still we see our rightwing commie posters deflect and defend.

Stevie Ray the freshly minted bleeding heart liberal!

February 15th, 2013
9:49 am

RB from Gwinnett

February 15th, 2013
9:38 am

He may well be the least transparent president in history…at least the one with the skills to not offer transparency in the least but actually convince his followers to believe the opposite.

His best strategy IMO is the avoidance of the mainstream press..a stated policy of his team. This allows him to avoid the tough questions while becoming hip using social media. A great strategy for him but having to rely on Jay Carney to dance, punt and fumble the difficult questions avoided by Obama gets redundant..

Jeffrey

February 15th, 2013
9:50 am

Enter your comments hereI don’t think it’s true about military folks voting republican. Isn’t that a myth. I’m pretty sure it has been debunked.

Grasshopper

February 15th, 2013
9:50 am

Hagel proved himself an incompetent has-been fool in his Senate hearings. He should be blocked for the next 4 years.

Erwin's cat

February 15th, 2013
9:51 am

Just watch

actually claiming either is “pretty dumb”…we’ll see

Aquagirl

February 15th, 2013
9:51 am

But someone saying it is the end of days can and will happen.

The rapture ready forums should be providing 99 44/100 pure comedy gold today.

Steve

February 15th, 2013
9:51 am

Hagel will get nominated and we will forget about this in 2 weeks. And the Johnnyrebs of the world will continue to proclaim that up is down, white is black and left is right in their parallel realities.

USinUK - former Girl Scout

February 15th, 2013
9:51 am

“defend the party no matter”

yes – when they are RIGHT, I do defend them from boneheaded comments.

Oscar

February 15th, 2013
9:51 am

Number one priority of the GOP now seems to be to thwart the President, to oppose anything he wants to do and to obstruct anything he proposes. To what end is a mystery. Their obstruction can only damage our country, our economy, ourlives and our future. But they have their priorities.

woodstockmimi

February 15th, 2013
9:52 am

Peadawg–Keep’s reference to ODS is “Obama Derangement Syndrome”. Or, as I like to put it, PODS–President Obama Derangement Syndrome.

barking frog

February 15th, 2013
9:53 am

Obama will throw Hagel under the bus and nominate
the SecDef he really wants.

jimbojoker

February 15th, 2013
9:54 am

Dr. Lawrence Britt has examined the fascist regimes of Hitler (Germany), Mussolini (Italy), Franco (Spain), Suharto (Indonesia) and several Latin American regimes.

Britt found 14 defining characteristics common to each:
1. Powerful and Continuing Nationalism –
2. Disdain for the Recognition of Human Rights –
3. Identification of Enemies/Scapegoats as a Unifying Cause –
4. Supremacy of the Military –
5. Rampant Sexism –
6. Controlled Mass Media
7. Obsession with National Security -.
8. Religion and Government are Intertwined -
9. Corporate Power is Protected
10. Labor Power is Suppressed -
11. Disdain for Intellectuals and the Arts
12. Obsession with Crime and Punishment –
13. Rampant Cronyism and Corruption -
14. Fraudulent Elections –

Wow what can I say frightening similarities to today’s right wing extremists

USinUK - former Girl Scout

February 15th, 2013
9:54 am

we need to set up woodstockmimi with woodstock mike.

Stevie Ray

February 15th, 2013
9:54 am

GT

We are broke, obese and ignorant in this state by design not by an act of God”

Just in this state? On a national level we are becoming more in debt, more obese, and clearly more ignorant (as designed by DEMS and GOP alike) on a daily basis.

They all think we are all dopes..clear as day. Obama is certainly doing nothing more than his predecessor in that respect.

Doggone/GA

February 15th, 2013
9:54 am

“Hagel will get nominated’

I’m sure you mean “confirmed”…he’s already been nominated

Erwin's cat

February 15th, 2013
9:55 am

yes – when they are RIGHT LEFT, I do defend them from boneheaded comments.

fixed your typo

USinUK - former Girl Scout

February 15th, 2013
9:55 am

“Obama will throw Hagel under the bus and nominate the SecDef he really wants.”

the guy is being filibustered by MEMBERS OF HIS OWN PARTY and it’s Obama that’s throwing him under the bus, now???

Steve

February 15th, 2013
9:57 am

sorry – “confirmed”

Stevie Ray

February 15th, 2013
9:58 am

Erwin’s cat

February 15th, 2013
9:44 am

Perhaps you are correct about man made global warming and that meteor. Apparently, this climate change is confirmed by storms, heat, cold…they pretty much got the bases covered and are in the clubhouse…

barking frog

February 15th, 2013
9:58 am

USinUK
.the guy is being filibustered by MEMBERS OF HIS OWN PARTY and it’s Obama that’s throwing him under the bus, now???
…………………………………………………………
go back to your checkers game.

Doggone/GA

February 15th, 2013
9:59 am

“the guy is being filibustered by MEMBERS OF HIS OWN PARTY and it’s Obama that’s throwing him under the bus, now???”

You just have to look at it “right”…it’s not HIS party that filibustering him. HE belongs to that new, 3rd party they keep saying is needed…the RINO party

Skip

February 15th, 2013
9:59 am

Stevie, the same MSP that gives him a pass? That’s who he avoids?

USinUK - former Girl Scout

February 15th, 2013
10:00 am

Erwin, you may think you know me … but you don’t.

Romney acknowledged that he had overseas accounts. That wasn’t up for debate – he acknowledged it – it’s out there.

(so point number one was correct)

he didn’t release ANY details about those accounts. now, speaking as someone who has to declare foreign accounts on MY US tax returns, let me tell you that the penalty for misstating account information is severe – and omitting information would mean that he HAD been dodging taxes.

So, yeah – I think that his shucking and jiving on the issue indicates that there was a little “shading” of his accounts.

And, given that when he finally DID release his returns, he only talked about an “average” of what he paid over the last 20 years, that doesn’t mean that he actually paid during that time …

so, again, yes – I think the president has a MUCH higher standard for reporting than anyone else in the country should have – and I think Romney failed miserably.

Redneck Convert (R--and proud of it)

February 15th, 2013
10:00 am

Well, Hagel was a OK Republican at one time. Then he went over to the Dark Side. Think for yourself. Obama wouldn’t be nominating him if he didn’t lean librul Democrat now.

Besides, us rednecks may take a butt-kicking but we don’t forget who give it. Obama may have kicked our butt in November. But it’s our turn now. Hagel’s got nothing to do with it. It’s time to kick Obama in the shins and twist his nose.

Have a good Friday everybody. I’m hauling and lugging and trying to get you drunks fine music lovers ready for tonight.

Buzz Belle

February 15th, 2013
10:01 am

The GOP will eat their own. I find this very reminiscent of what Chambliss did to Cleland. They are doing this to “get back” at Dems for beating them. Plain and simple. When is this going to stop?

Stevie Ray

February 15th, 2013
10:01 am

jimbojoker

February 15th, 2013
9:54 am

Gee thanks for the obligatory suggestion that one of our political parties is akin to Nazism…helpful.

To be fair, why not offer similar comparison of current administration and lefties in general to socialism and its offshoots..?

Erwin's cat

February 15th, 2013
10:02 am

Stevie,
there was a great NOVA program on WUGA last night that went in depth about the workings of a global weather machine…it was very informative and w/o agenda…it was a show on our understanding of how things work…It was fascinating

“NOVA Earth from Space (HD, TV-G) NASA scientists and data from Earth-observing satellites produce a new space-based visual of Earth, revealing the forces that sustain life and more.”

Corbin Sharpe. I think, therefore I am...I think.

February 15th, 2013
10:03 am

RB from Gwinnett

February 15th, 2013
9:45 am

Give me a site for that stat, please.

Jackie

February 15th, 2013
10:03 am

For anyone that believes Dick Cheney tells the truth about ANYTHING is a contradiction within itself.
Secondly, the so-called conservatives have no shame. Notice the comments they make about their fellow countrymen without facts to bolster their position(s).