The terrifying yet sadly amusing world of Wayne LaPierre

More proof that only scared people run to guns.

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— buy more ammo!! buy more guns!! PANIC!! —

Buy ammo?

Where?

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I wonder how many people will give up their memberships to the NRA? Not many politicians in Georgia would have the courage to.

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Guns go BANG BANG!

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What sloppy-@$$ speech writing, he left out the zombie apocalypse.

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the possibility of Euro-style debt riots

you know what would make those even better? More guns.

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Elmer Fudd could be beat our President said the cons.

Too funny.

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Confiscating all private firearms except ‘black powder’
would not violate the Constitution.

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Oh, NO, not this, again! I’m not sure who more the sensationalist…LaPierre or Bookman! If folks want to stock up on guns and ammo, waiting for the civil unrest, let ‘em! Then, when it doesn’t happen, oh well, what’s the harm? It’s an economic stimulus! And, the libs love them some economic stimulus!

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It is much easier to steal a gun than buy one, cheaper too. (If you want one bad enough)

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“If folks want to stock up on guns and ammo, waiting for the civil unrest, let ‘em! Then, when it doesn’t happen, oh well, what’s the harm?”

nope. people stockpiling guns has never been a problem in the past.

what could go wrong?

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liberal hogwash jay…

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barking frog

February 14th, 2013
11:19 am

He has to say something since Nugent was neutered at
the SOTU.

Nugent said the other night that the pubs had no balls. I thought he’d be the hero by now!

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I don’t see his speech as dramatic as y’all do. The Obama admin rhetoric has caused for more guns to be purchased /sold more so than any speech WLP has made.
Weren’t there armed gangs and looters during the days and weeks after Katrina?

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“Quick, let’s get all twisted in a bunch because law abiding citizens are buying guns, oh the horror.”

Horror? It would appear that you have missed the AMUSEMENT being expressed here. I haven’t seen any “horror”

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Brocephus – 11:20 – well, I for one would like to see some of these yay-hoos stand in the path of a Cat 5 tornado and try to stop it with their guns … (no, no … you gotta get REAAAALLY close for it to work – didn’t you see “Twister”?)

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Brosephus™
I had to click your link just to find out what a womoan was.
However it is interesting to consider how many people are
on the edge of insanity, but not diagnosed and would not
show on a background check.

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Funniest NRA line ever: “We [the NRA] are the largest civil rights organization in the world.”

We achieve this by being fanatically devoted to the right to deny civil and other rights to others.

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Down – 11:29 – sorry, I wasn’t clearer – I just meant the surge in purchases, not necessarily from whence they were bought.

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Down-I was unfortunate to be in a Bass Pro shop not long ago looking for winter socks. There were people in line to buy guns that from their behavior I would not trust to wash my car. They all passed the background check. Of course the check lasted about 2 seconds and who is to say the machine is working correctly or even turned on? Background checks should be done in places other than the point of sale.

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I defy any of you “open minded” individuals to stand and defend the rights of people you disagree with. Fat chance.

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How will lowering the legal limit for blood alcohol stop drunken boating Lake Lanier as proposed in the GOP controlled Georgia?”

It won’t ,but it will be a good revenue stream for the municipalities

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well, there you go – if there ever was an argument for more background checks, there it is in black and white.

Don’t see your point Miss UK.

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the dog

February 14th, 2013
11:32 am

I was listening to Chris Matthews on MSNBC (imagine that!). I’m not sure who he was interviewing, but, they were in agreement that the b/g checks should take very little time. They actually used the analogy that it takes less time for the check than the time spent in the normal traffic stop. Sounds like the process was working as designed. IF the federal database is working like it should, it SHOULD only take a few seconds for completion.

Background checks should be done in places other than the point of sale.
What do you suggest? The local court house, the sheriff’s dept, police dept?

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Oh I see-now in the middle is pulling the old doomy trick. I was just kidding!! BS

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USinUK – former Girl Scout

February 14th, 2013
11:32 am

Down – 11:29 – sorry, I wasn’t clearer – I just meant the surge in purchases, not necessarily from whence they were bought.

No worries!

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the dog – They all passed the background check. Of course the check lasted about 2 seconds

bull, even with a CCW it takes about 25 min to go thru the check and registration

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No one has caused the sale of more guns than Barack Obama, not including the millions he purchsed through his homeland security agency and the ones he sold to Mexican drug cartels. He is now arming the Syrian rebels with high capacity assault weapons. There has never been a better time to be in the gun manufacturing business than there is today.

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I say we use that Patriot Act to install secret camera in his home and eavesdrop on his phone calls..it remains completely doable thanks to a major change of mind by BO post election.

Another example of Obamas continuing on with Bush’s defense strategies..

http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2012/dec/28/fisa-feinstein-obama-democrats-eavesdropping

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Weren’t there armed gangs and looters during the days and weeks after Katrina?

Not anything like the BS our lovely right wing concocted. There are, probably, still millions of Americans who actually believe that rescue choppers were shot at by crazed Negroes, and of course that the Superdome was some rape factory.

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echoing UnU here, the gun-tards have been claiming that Obama is a “great salesman” ever since Nov. 2008.

WLP’s pitch is no good without a boogey man….unfortunately Obama hasn’t exactly lived down that moniker with the gun enthusiast

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DowninAlbany
Nugent is a pub. Per him pubs have no balls.

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Of course the check lasted about 2 seconds and who is to say the machine is working correctly or even turned on?

That wasn’t my experience at Bass Pro.

I bought a gun there about a year ago, and I waited for 30-45 minutes.

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What you want is to drive the cost up for guns and bullets, to make it more expensive for the illegal gun. It seems to be working.

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Not anything like the BS our lovely right wing concocted. There are, probably, still millions of Americans who actually believe that rescue choppers were shot at by crazed Negroes, and of course that the Superdome was some rape factory.

so they only got shot up and raped a little bit?

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You can’t get a job without a criminal background check, a drivers license check and a credit check. Why the big freaking deal about a background check to own a gun? Personally, I think you should be licensed and have to validate that license every few years. And yes, I own guns.

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I would not want the efforts of the NRA to be any differant than the efforts of NOW in defending their positions. Sorry if you disagree. It is called free speech and freedom of association.

Aw the heck with it, let’s just pass legislation that compels all individuals and organizations to comply with the a singular view of the world. It would be a much better planet if we can just force everybody to agree.

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ERwn-I d not know what a CCW is but at Bass Pro shop they were lasting less than 10 seconds.

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“Meanwhile, President Obama is leading this country to financial ruin, borrowing over a trillion dollars a year for phony “stimulus” spending and other payoffs for his political cronies.”

And…

“There’s a quivering, even pornographic quality to LaPierre’s description of the apocalypse that looms ahead.”

I guess looming apocalypses will happen if a republican gets elected. Let’s review:

Elect a repub, granny goes over a cliff.

Elect a repub, blacks will get water hosed and dragged behing pick-up trucks.

Elect a repub, Medicare and SS will die.

Elect a repub, you will die from poluted air and water.

Etc.

Wayne’s projections have more basis in reality than those above…

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barking frog

February 14th, 2013
11:44 am

DowninAlbany
Nugent is a pub. Per him pubs have no balls

Exactly. That makes him a hero on here, right?

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Have you kissed your gun lately? Weaponry is taking on a new more feverish 0ccupation of the American mind. Like the flu bug that has been making its way around, now it is the “gun bug” to be better armed more equiped for deadly force.
Unlike the flu bug that one can get a shot for, there is no immunization for the gun bug, it simply grows, multiplys and becomes more ominous with every passing day.
In every city, crime is on the rise, there is no slowing this epidemic.

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the dog. A CCW is a comcealed carry permit. It allows you to carry a gun on your person (except where prohibited by law). You have to go through an extensive background check to get one. Takes about 4 weeks.

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Erwin – 11:43 – please – he didn’t do ANYthing about guns in his first administration

that didn’t stop 4 years of fear mongering!

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DowninAlbany
DowninAlbany
Nugent is a pub. Per him pubs have no balls

Exactly. That makes him a hero on here, right?
……………………………………………………………
To be a hero here he would have had to say
pubs have no brains, balls not so much.

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Keep Up the Good Fight!

February 14th, 2013
11:47 am

Good stuff and I’m all in favor of putting up as many obstacles as possible to get a weapon. Problem is that we already have 310,000,000 guns in circulation that we know about…getting guns will still be about as difficult as scoring dope…

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ERwn-I d not know what a CCW is but at Bass Pro shop they were lasting less than 10 seconds.

Lie.

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Someone is going to have to explain to me how owning a gun protects you from hurricanes and tornadoes…

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“Guns go BANG BANG!”

So does Cactus Jack….

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EC, setting aside my skepticism that you are quite as unaware of / can’t recall the grotesque rumor mongering indulged in by the media at the time of the disaster…

http://reason.com/archives/2005/12/01/they-shoot-helicopters-dont-th

[T]he basic premise of the article that introduced the New Orleans helicopter sniper to a global audience was dead wrong, just like so many other widely disseminated Katrina nightmares. No 7-year-old rape victim with a slit throat was ever found, even though the atrocity was reported in scores of newspapers. The Convention Center freezer was not stacked with 30 or 40 dead bodies, nor was the Superdome a live-in morgue. (An estimated 10 people died inside the two buildings combined, and only one was slain, according to the best data from National Guard officials at press time.)

From a journalistic point of view, the root causes of the bogus reports were largely the same: The communication breakdown without and especially within New Orleans created an information vacuum in which wild oral rumor thrived. Reporters failed to exercise enough skepticism in passing along secondhand testimony from victims (who often just parroted what they picked up from the rumor mill), and they were far too eager to broadcast as fact apocalyptic statements from government officials–such as Mayor Ray Nagin’s prediction of 10,000 Katrina-related deaths (there were less than 900 in New Orleans at press time) and Police Superintendent Edwin Compass’ reference on The Oprah Winfrey Show to “little babies getting raped”–without factoring in discounts for incompetence and ulterior motives.

Problem is, there are STILL people who choose to believe much of what got reported as “news” at the time, because (I’m assuming here) it reinforces their prejudices about Those People.

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Reminds me of the movie ‘Survivors” with Robin Williams and Walter Matthau.

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News Flash. Gunmania is sweeping the land. Prices are rising. Gt yours before the prices double. Get in and out with you profits before the bubble pops.

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Getting beyond the knee jerk reactions. It really doesn’t matter to me what kind of background check you have to go through. I say this because I would pass any background check that existed. But, I am not the one using a firearm in the commission of a crime. Putting law abiding citizens, like me, through hoops will only affect me. It will have no impact whatsover on the core problem which is gun violence. Targeting individuals that will comply with all the laws is easy, but completely ineffective.

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I imagine LaPierre would be terrified yet amused at Jay’s world.

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Shorter Cosby: But…but…but CHICAGO!

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“Guns make great Valentine’s day gifts. Hurry while supplies still last. Special on high capicity mags.”

not so much for Pistorius’s girlfriend.

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Require all firearms transactions, except shotguns and bolt/lever action rifles undergo the same approval process as a Class 3 weapon.

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Paralympic superstar Oscar Pistorius was today charged with murder after allegedly shooting his girlfriend dead in the middle of the night.

Reeva Steenkamp, 30, a former FHM model who had been dating the 26-year-old for two months, was shot four times in the head, chest and arm inside his mansion in Pretoria, South Africa at 4am.

Four times?

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I am unfamiliar with Nugent’s music

You aren’t missing anything.

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Constructive Feedback

February 14th, 2013
11:54 am

Not very construtive criticism there..

Are you suggesting that JAY was advocating an opposite position on gun control than he is currently?

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Headline….”Stricken cruise ship Triumph will be towed into Alabama port”

Haven’t they suffered enough?

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barking frog

February 14th, 2013
11:51 am

I’ll try to remember that!

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I see the number of guns on the street as being upwards of 300 million. Who counted them all, serious question. How do we know this count is accurate? I imagine many of the suspected total number have been lost, broken, destroyed, etc.

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“Targeting individuals that will comply with all the laws is easy, but completely ineffective.

But it make them feel like DID SOMETHING”

take that thought (shallow as it is) and apply to every other law … so, what – should we not have ANY laws? getting a license to drive a car is a hassle, so should we stop that, as well?

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Stevie: Problem is that we already have 310,000,000 guns in circulation that we know about…getting guns will still be about as difficult as scoring dope…

You’re right. There are a lot of guns out there. Many owned by law abiding citizens who will never do more than hunt. Many are not semi-assault rifles and are properly owned. Over time, a good number will be destroyed or sold at buy-backs. It’s not an overnight solution. It will take time.

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Your civil liberties are being trampled on and you talk like it’s NO big deal.. When Bush signed the Patriot laws into effect, it was the beginning of the end… Hey, the clowns that make fun of Wayne now, will scream the loudest later.. Oh how dumb we have become, and the politicians(from both sides) are laughing all the way to the bank…

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Goldie “The NRA is promoting mass murder all across America these days!”

I missed that announcement, when was it?

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I missed that announcement, when was it?

Their policies clearly support it.

Their only function is to increase sales for the gun industry.

Wayne being the top salesman.

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Like it or not the public is voting with its wallet.

Nope. A number of gun owners are buying multiple guns. Actual households having guns in their houses is decreasing. So if you want to talk about “voting with their wallets”, the vote is against gun ownership.

One guy buying 10000 AMC pacers does not mean that America has voted to bring back the Pacer.

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So sad that there are some Americans who call shooting an assault weapon “a sport that I enjoy” — a sport, REALLY?? When was shooting assault weapons added to the sporting events for our Olympics? I missed that announcement.

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Nope. A number of gun owners are buying multiple guns.

Exactly right.

The number of households who have guns is actually dropping.

They are smart because you are safer without one in your house.

The number of guns per household that have them is going up.

The gun nuts are doubling down.

That is what’s going on.

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Goldie, Which policy. I am pushing back because I would prefer that if you have an argument against the NRA than use something better than they want to kill everybody or they want Glock to make more money. Tell me why you think the NRA should change it’s stance on the second amendment. If you want to influence my opinion, give me a valid reason.

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And of course, we all remember learning the words of Jesus in our Sunday school days, when he pronounced: “Blessed are the assault weapons-lovers, for they should be called the only American patriots!”

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when wrestling is outlawed, only outlaws will perform a half-nelson.

Heh, heh, heh — just as long as futbol is still included in the Olympics.

I noticed that Posh and Spice Dad are back on your side of the pond. Your problem now.

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LaPierre learned this behavior well from the GOP. When things start to unravel, just double down on stupid. It’s fun watching these folks become insignificant.

And it’s not there message that the majority of the country dislikes. It’s the way they deliver it!

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If you want to influence my opinion, give me a valid reason.

Good luck with that Goldie, since Mr. Middle’s list doesn’t include “not sounding bat$#!^ insane.”

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Kam – “I noticed that Posh and Spice Dad are back on your side of the pond. Your problem now”

at least he’s in France … we still have to look at her miserable moo face, though … gah.

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Rednwck –
Good advice. Never buy your wife anything that plugs in. And NEVER buy her a cook book.

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This is the bill I support for dems to put out… Then we will know they mean business…

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2013/02/missouri-democrats-intruduce-legislation-to-confiscate-firearms-gives-gunowners-90-days-to-turn-in-guns/

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“And I will recommend a Nobel Science Prize to the first person who thwarts a hurricane or tornado with a gun.”

Because looters and crime doesn’t escalate after such disasters, right?

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This isssue is not assault weapons. The issue is hahg capacity mags. Whether we want to put restrictions on high many times a person can shoot without having to reload.
Assault weapon, sport gun or pistol, does not matter. Qeston is shooting wothout reloading. Do we want to limit or restict that.

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ERwn-I d not know what a CCW is but at Bass Pro shop they were lasting less than 10 seconds.

In Georgia you have to obtain a Georgia Firearms License to carry concealed firearms. It requires fingerprinting and a background investigation. Due to the sizable backlog of applicants what used to take about five weeks now takes much longer. You must renew every five years.

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Here’s the actual Missouri Democratic Party’s “Gimme Yo Guns or Else” legislation.

http://www.house.mo.gov/billtracking/bills131/biltxt/intro/HB0545I.HTM

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Panic is for p*ssies. If you ran out and loaded up on weapons and ammo because Barack Obama was elected President, or re-elected, or because one of the NRA telemarketers called your house and told you “the Democrats are going to take your guns away,” then yes, you are one. You think you’re bad, but you’re not.

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take that thought (shallow as it is) and apply to every other law … so, what – should we not have ANY laws? getting a license to drive a car is a hassle, so should we stop that, as well?

If it were as ineffective as the proposed new gun laws will be, then we should stop that too. If a law’s only purpose is to give libs the warm fuzzies, I don’t think we should bother with it.

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Many are not semi-assault rifles and are properly owned.

First a semi does not make an assault weapon, and secondly politically identified assault weapons are not illegal.

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Read the article…

No, sport.

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Just talked about this issue today with my friends. We are all gun owners and all have so called “Assualt Rifles”. We don’t agree with the “Assault Rifle” ban or ban on magazines over a certian size.

That being said, we cannot for the life of us understand the NRA position on background checks. This is a no brainer to us as long as it is done in a way that makes sense.

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What will the arms merchants do when they have saturated the market and every single man is armed to the teeth with 20-30 assault weapons? I guess the next step is merchandising shoulder-fired missiles to the masses. If you are having a bad day or miss a flight you can take out you angst on whatever is flying overhead.
Arms merchants always prosper– in good or bad times. See e.g.: Nazi Germany
Beef up your 401K with some good gun stocks. Good way to profit from the decline of civilization.

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The same people complaining about no background checks for gun purchases (which I don’t have a huge issue with) are the sames ones who want minor children to be able to get abortions without parental permission.

When you hafta lie to make a point, you really have no point.

Just sayin’.

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This nut Paul Broun is really out there, isn’t he: http://goo.gl/fl5Cj

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“There are many sports not included in the Olympic games”

And there are Olympic sports that include guns

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@itchy, a word to the wise, there are a few people on this blog who use terms such as “sport”, drudgey spam” and the like the classic is Kamchak, don’t expect him to read, he will not consider opinions outside of his. I do not necessarily agree with your article, but it is a possibility. Anyway, wait for “thanks for playing” or directing you to a blog forming website, All in the fun …

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Banner123,

The NRA is and has been an advocate for background checks. Their point is that people found to be fraudulently attempting to obtain firearms who’re in the existing database of those who cannot legally possess firearms are mostly not prosecuted. Also there’s government resistance to including those who’re mentally unfit or those who have a history of violent domestic behavior. They say if these issues are properly addressed they would support universal background checks.

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Kamchak,

that’s not a lie. It’s a fact. The right isn’t fighting for minors to be able to get abortions without parental consent. Several states allow it and it’s certainly the left fighting for it.

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Even George W. Bush dropped his membership in the NRA over the tone of their remarks. Just read the local letters to the editor and we see this paranoi is widespread.

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Now, how much are you willing to spend – on a per head basis – to produce and distribute a national ID that can be used for not only voting, but to address the illegal alien issue as well?

Voting is a states issue and any identification required by the states should be an ID of their choosing. I do not suport a national database for gun purchases.

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that’s not a lie. It’s a fact.

In that case you should have no problem documenting, the “same people complaining about no background checks for gun purchases (which I don’t have a huge issue with) are the sames ones who want minor children to be able to get abortions without parental permission” and please show your work – that means specific people

Thanks in advance.

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Kamchak, don’t expect him to read, he will not consider opinions outside of his.

Not intended to be a factual statement.

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Voting is a states issue and any identification required by the states should be an ID of their choosing.

Deflecterbation.

Thanks for not playing and please see Vanna on your way out for your consolation prizes including a lifetime supply of Rice-A-Roni — The San Francisco treat!

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SoCo/Bro

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Jay:

Please review this video and take some “snap shots” of this lady so you can post a photo of her looking at her worst and then do a caricature of her as Elmer Fudd.

Thank you.

“A BLACK WOMAN’S PERSPECTIVE ON GUN CONTROL”

http://www.youtube.com/embed/vn7bkncf1_E

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I’ll be glad to do so when you also specifically document everything you ever type on here.

So you can’t do it.

You pull something out of your ass, state it as “fact” and then you can’t document it when challenged.

I’ll act shocked and awed if it will make you feel any better.

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“Their next step may be manufacturing and selling of jerked knee replacements, because we are going to need a lot of those.”

Running out to purchase an overpriced firearm that was not on any previous bann or current proposal would probably qualify for two “jerk knee replacements”.

Wonder if that is covered under Obamacare and what is the co pay?

Godless: just messing with you; imo there is over reaction on all sides

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Ok, exactly what in my statement to you conclude to be factitious??

Well, for starters, I think you’re confusing showing an ID with actually procuring an ID. Showing an ID doesn’t cost one cent. Obtaining an ID, on the other hand, costs money.

Also, the very people who you claim don’t see the right to vote as not being guaranteed are the same ones that point to the amendments that state that the right to vote shall not be abridged by ……

Other than those two things, I think you were factually correct. In effect, that whole argument isn’t worth a stack of wooden nickles embedded in a termite mound.

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“The parents of kids in Sandy Hook School are also demanding armed resources, not for the remainder of the year only, but permanently.”

are they taking this to the media or to their local municipality and applicable school board?

I’m not aware of any Fed law or reg that says these local districts can’t do this as other school districts are already doing.

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I appreciate the cons buying my guns for outrageous prices.

Easy money.

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Then why did the cons nominate Romney?

The same reason the Libs nominated a dip like Al Gore, he got the most votes!

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And if I don’t have an ID and can’t afford one, should that prevent me from obtaining a firearm?

Can you prove who you are without an ID? Can a background check be run on you without an ID?

To counter the complete BS about your “argument”, you fail to realize that an ID is shown when a voter is registered. There is no gun owner registration, so yeah, you should show an ID to get a firearm.

Any more questions?

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And there are Olympic sports that include guns

And there are Olympians who do sports that include guns that are hawt.

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And if I don’t have an ID and can’t afford one, should that prevent me from obtaining a firearm?

You can’t afford to buy an ID, but you can afford to buy a gun?

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

Logic much?

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Mocking Cosby with but..but.. but.. Chicago reveals an intellectual impotence problem. Try doing skeet in a pink tutu just like His Redundancy.

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I am just saying that people need to be consistent. If you believe the government has no right to tell you what to do with your body, and you believe that obtaining an id to vote constitutes a poll tax. Why would you believe another right would have to be infringed????? Also you believe so much in the right to privacy, why would you support a national database???

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You can’t afford to buy an ID, but you can afford to buy a gun?

Notice I said obtain. I was hoping the store owner was going to give it to me. Lol

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Vet

You have confirmed this with actual voter registration info? I’m sure you are not regurgitating what you heard on a talk show or diarrheaing at the mouth, correct?

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I have never seen the right so weak and pitiful.

Great times.

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To: Recon 0311 2533

If according to you those are the reasons (not 100% sure i believe that but let’s assume so), that is the stupidest reason not to do background checks. What they are essentially saying is “Because it isn’t 100% perfect system, lets not do it at all”.

Dumb, Dumb, Dumb !!!

Keep in mind, I am certianly not a gun control advocate. No more bans on guns or magazines. In fact, i say if you can pass the requirements for a Class 3 weapon, they should not limit machine guns to guns manufactured before 1986.

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getalife

February 14th, 2013
1:18 pm

I have never seen the right so weak and pitiful.

Great times.

Examples?

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Running out to purchase an overpriced firearm that was not on any previous bann or current proposal would probably qualify for two “jerk knee replacements”.

Yea, that too.

Has ANYONE here had a background check that lasted less than 1 minute?
Nope. It takes that long to fill out the form.

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weak and pitiful is obsessing over a nutjob like Wayne Lapierre….just sayin’

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Oh, and 11 alive is streaming vid from the Rec center where Obama will speak.

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The cons are losing their party and lost the majority.

Scared to death.

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weak and pitiful is obsessing over a nutjob like Wayne Lapierre

Bill Ayers says “damn”.

Of course, Bill Ayers is not speaking before Congress or being solicited for money and endorsements by numerous candidates or publishing a rating.

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the dog

February 14th, 2013
11:32 am
Down-I was unfortunate to be in a Bass Pro shop not long ago looking for winter socks. There were people in line to buy guns that from their behavior I would not trust to wash my car. They all passed the background check. Of course the check lasted about 2 seconds and who is to say the machine is working correctly or even turned on? Background checks should be done in places other than the point of sale.

Maybe a background check should be employed before bloggers are allowed to post??

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LaPierre and his followers have mental disorders, either paranoia or schizophrenia, perhaps both. These disorders are treatable but not curable. Fortunately, they are covered under ObamaCare, Medicare, and Medicaid!

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And do you REALLY think it’s OK that if someone is convicted in GA of using a gun to commit a crimes that they should be able to buy a gun in Alabama

DG, that is a valid point. I would prefer a National DB of persons who have lost their rights and are not permitted to own a gun. Kind of like the “No Fly List”

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The President is speaking in Decatur Georgia.

They love him.

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Aquagirl: Rec center where Obama will speak.

Rec Center??? Is he going to play basketball too?

I thought he’d talk in a theater, civic center or something. But a Rec Center?? (well, okay, I’ll say it was likely up to Secret Service to make this final decision.)

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Banner,

Evidently the NRA’s point is if existing laws are not being enforced it doesn’t make sense to legislate new laws including a universal database that doesn’t include prosecution for illegally attempting to purchase firearms.

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I for one would not be in the least bit upset were I to learn that Herr LaPierre walked smack dab into the path of a flying bullet, hopefully fired by another card-carrying member of the NRA.

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Wayne La Pierre says: “We, the American people, clearly see the daunting forces we will undoubtedly face: terrorists, crime, drug gangs, the possibility of Euro-style debt riots, civil unrest or natural disaster.”

Because with just the right disaster scenario, you too, can be the survivor in the Zombie Apocalypse.

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getalife

February 14th, 2013
1:29 pm

downer,

Will it pass? I seriously doubt it.

pols propose all kinds of things. I think you understand my (counter) point.

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Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes

February 14th, 2013
1:35 pm

It took three times, kammy. You’re losing your touch!

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monty – if you’re gonna take my booze you might as well take my gun….who wants to hunt sober?

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Jay….lot’s of folks think your bed wetting world is all wrong. 42 flavors at Baskin Robbins for a reason.
Bad guys will always have guns. Ask the folks in zero tolerance NY & Chicago.

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I for one would not be in the least bit upset were I to learn that Herr LaPierre walked smack dab into the path of a flying bullet, hopefully fired by another card-carrying member of the NRA.

Nice.

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The NRA has actively sought to block enforcement of current laws and to weaken them.

Cite please. (On the enforcement part.)

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http://i1.wp.com/www.popehat.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/12/Libertarian-Society-Utopian-Society.jpg?resize=411%2C640

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Sounds alot like Obama telling us the world would come to an end if we didn’t bail out GM, cleverly conning the American taxpayer into buying him votes with the UAW crowd. NRA bad, UAW good…more twisted lib logic.

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If you plan on carrying a firearm

So all I have to do is check the box that says “Do you plan on carrying a gun outside of your home,” right?

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the dog

February 14th, 2013
12:11 pm
Well gee godless, we certainly do not want to inconvenience the old man that blew away the young man for turning around in his driveway – odds are, that “old man” would have still been able to leaglly purchase a fire arm.

or the olympic runner that blew away his girlfriend (4 shots) thinking she was an intruder. – He lives in S. Africa. These laws would not affect him.

Also, S. Africa’s gun laws are stricter than ours.

“In South Africa, owning a gun is conditional on a competency test and several other factors, including background checking of the applicant, inspection of an owner’s premises, and licensing of the weapon by the police introduced in July 2004. The process is currently undergoing review,[1] as the police are at present, not able to adequately or within reasonable time, process either competency certification, new licenses or renewal of existing licenses. Minimum waiting period frequently exceeds 2 years from date of application.[2]”
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_politics_in_South_Africa

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“Sounds alot like Obama telling us the world would come to an end if we didn’t bail out GM, ”

got quote?

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WOO HOO!

The Stupid, insulting & Backward Party (credit B. Jindal) sets yet another new low in American politics!

For the very first time in America’s long history, cowards in the United Senate have filibustered the nomination of a Secretary of Defense.

It’s hard to even imagine anything more irresponsible, which is exactly why this should dramatically improve the neocons electoral chances in 2014 and 2016!

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Goldie

February 14th, 2013
12:11 pm
Once again, what are assault weapons designed to do — I mean, other than killing many many people within a minutue’s time???
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An “assault weapon” is DESIGNED to fire a projectile.

The PERSON firing the weapon decides what it is used for.

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“They seem to be doing something right.”

Do they still have the “broken window” program in place? I seem to recall the drop in murders being at least partly credited to that program of enforcement.

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I want a GAU-8_Avenger

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GAU-8_Avenger

The GAU-8 itself weighs 620 pounds (280 kg), but the complete weapon, with feed system and drum, weighs 4,029 pounds (1,828 kg) with a maximum ammunition load. It measures 19 ft 5 1⁄2 in (5.931 m) from the muzzle to the rearmost point of the ammunition system, and the ammunition drum alone is 34.5 inches (88 cm) in diameter and 71.5 inches (1.82 m) long.[5] Power for operating the gun is provided by twin 77 hp electric motors. The magazine can hold 1,174 rounds, although 1,150 is the typical load-out. Muzzle velocity when firing Armor-Piercing Incendiary rounds is 3,250 feet per second (990 m/s).

Because, I should have the right to any weapon I want, right?

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If you plan on carrying a firearm outside of the home for personal protection in Georgia you must be fingerprinted and undergo a background check to be issued a Georgia Firearms License.

Actually, I just believe that is for concealed carry. You can carry in the open with no permit. The law may have changed though.

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That Black Guy

February 14th, 2013
1:56 pm

Strict guns laws work! There it is in black and white! Oh, wait a minute…

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Do they still have the “broken window” program in place? I seem to recall the drop in murders being at least partly credited to that program of enforcement.

Well, that’s what Rudy 9/11! would have you believe.

I am coming around to putting more stock in the lead poisoning theory, actually.

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I’m willing to bet that 99% of those who bought guns have never heard of Wayne LaPierre.

I’d take you up on your bet but I just learned that 98% of people who make claims about betting that 99% know [X] are just pulling out of the butt of a strawman. #pullingmadeupstatisticsoutofyourbuttstrawman

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This is the database that is accessed for gun purchasers
http://www.fas.org/irp/agency/doj/fbi/is/ncic.htm

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So reading comments from the left, If you beat them, kill them.

“I for one would not be in the least bit upset were I to learn that Herr LaPierre walked smack dab into the path of a flying bullet, hopefully fired by another card-carrying member of the NRA.”

How intelligent is that.

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Actually, I just believe that is for concealed carry. You can carry in the open with no permit. The law may have changed though.

No you cannot carry a gun outside of your home, or vehicle without a valid Georgia Firearms License. You can carry a long gun for lawful hunting purposes or both hand guns and long guns for target shooting at legal firing ranges. I seem to recall that the law does allow for an independent business owner to have a firearm for protection at his or her place of business.

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How intelligent is that.

Not very, I agree (and I think most everyone else here does, too.)

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By the way, I had a look at Chicago’s crime stats. As bad as things have been in the past year, their murder total (like violent crime throughout the country, actually) is much, much lower than it had been back in the early 90s. In ‘92 there were 943 murders; in 2012, 506.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crime_in_Chicago

(Which is of course 506 too many.)

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you may carry a weapon on your own property

Dumb question, but does that include property in which you reside as a tenant?

I assume so, but a cow orker claimed otherwise the other day and I was too lazy to look it up. (Still am I guess.)

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The American people do not even bother to listen to the weak and pitiful right any longer in our country.

The right are toast and will probably split divided and conquered.

I tried to help you but now you are stuck without leaders, flailing in the wilderness.

Personal responsibility so don’t blame others for your failures.

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For every 1 gun sold in IL that leaves the state, 6 guns are brought in from other states. Most illegal handguns used in crimes in Chicago come from sales in states other than IL.

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“Most illegal handguns used in crimes in Chicago come from sales in states other than IL”

Maybe they need better border control!

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Komnccap

I know this is difficult for you to understand…. Let me speak S L O W L Y….. GUNS were NOT the ISSUE… I mean good grief .. Some people can’t see beyond their own NOSE…

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Listened to piece on NPR about the KKK and its rise and fall.

The NRA is on the same glide slope.

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Very similar to the federal government’s portrayal of the sequestration that may come in March. In truth, many local governments forced furlough days and cut budgets but we are to believe the federal government can’t without apocalyptic results. The gullibility is thick amongst us Americans!

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If I was going to guess, and I am, I’d think it might depend on whether said property was single-family or multi-family.

So if you’re a working class guy in an apartment in a sketchy neighborhood and far more likely to fear a break-in than a comfy upper-middle-classer in a gated community, you have to jump through hoops to protect yourself that the richer guy needn’t fret about?

jeez, I’d hope that’s not the case, although it’d certainly be in keeping with this state’s long history of screwing the poors…

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Is that Jay’s high school football picture?

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Hmmmmm: “I know this is difficult for you to understand…. Let me speak S L O W L Y….. GUNS were NOT the ISSUE”

Where did I say anything about guns?

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DownInAlbany

February 14th, 2013
1:19 pm
That Black Guy

February 14th, 2013
1:16 pm

Nice rebuttal. In the words of Dr. Sheldon Cooper, the dog’s comments are pure “hocum.”
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Than particular poster does have a habit of, ummmm…….LYING!

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Stands, not sure about your question. A quick look at http://www.georgiapacking.org/law.php does not seem to answer the question but I don’t have time to look at the underlying code as I am headed out the door.

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Hagel isn’t qualified as Sec of Defense; Not enough draft deferments.

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privilege/right. license to exercise the privilege.Use the license as ID to purchase the gun you are allowed under the right.

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TBS

February 14th, 2013
1:26 pm
godless & TBG

Me thinks the dog (cat) just posts stupidity for stupidity’s sake…………
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True dat, TBS, true dat.

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Hmmmm: “I know this is difficult for you to understand…. Let me speak S L O W L Y….. GUNS were NOT the ISSUE”

In my statement I spoke of oligarchy, not guns.

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it’s got nothing to do with intelligence or lack of same. It’s simply an expression of one person’s opinion as to the piece of human scum that is Herr LaPierre. It may be politically incorrect, but so what?

While I do not wish people to shoot other people, I could easily see how it would be more than possible for LaPierre to be shot by a mentally unstable NRA member, or shot and killed while defending himself, or shot and killed with his own weapon. All of these are statistically likely ways for murders to happen.

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and ask if your google is broken

PD, actually, I remember now that I HAD looked around, but couldn’t find anything definitive.

A bit of cursory googling just now and I still can’t. Kind of frustrating.

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Most illegal handguns used in crimes in Chicago come from sales in states other than IL.

and that’s why I always think that focusing all that much on this city or this state’s restrictions is a bit silly. A chain’s only as strong as its weakest link, after all–we don’t have border checks from state to state.

Realistically, the only way to know if stricter gun regs would have any effect on our still ridiculously-high murder rate (which is about 4x that of Canada and the UK) would be to impose them nationwide.

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Now the gop are filibustering their own.

It is over for the gop.

Toast.

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I’d take you up on your bet but I just learned that 98% of people who make claims about betting that 99% know [X] are just pulling out of the butt of a strawman. #pullingmadeupstatisticsoutofyourbuttstrawman

67% of all statistics are just made up on the spot. According to Todd Snider.

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http://www.gallup.com/poll/160385/obama-rated-highest-foreign-affairs-lowest-deficit.aspx

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But in a mutli-family location, only your apartment is “yours”, but the rest of the property is not.

ah…I think we might be talking at cross purposes here–I can see how the right to keep a piece in your own rental apartment wouldn’t mean you’d have the right to keep it at a neighbor’s in your building, if you were over, visiting, selling Girl Scout cookies, whatevs…

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@mm read”the Fifties” by David Halberstam and save the gas (it’s more than 25 cents per gallon now)!

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Hmmmmmmm: “Recon 0311 you and komnccap get together and find some help…. Again, children… GUNS are NOT the issue”

As I said, I partly agree.

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“I think we might be talking at cross purposes here”

Maybe, but “your property” includes your land, up to your legal property line. It’s like driving without a license. You can drive all over your property as much as you want, and you don’t need a license. But you can’t drive on your neighbors property without one…even though you never go on the public road.

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mm

February 14th, 2013
2:33 pm

I see McCain is trying to end the flibuster for Hagel.

As soon as this is over, Reid needs to implement true flibuster reform

Yep, when the rules don’t work in your favor, simply change the rules!

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ATL Tiger, forget Wayne “the Cop Hater” LaPierre, 89.637% of the people who bought their arsenals recently probably have never heard of George Washington, Thomas Jefferson or Abraham Lincoln either. (They were all liberal traitors!)

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Did anyone notice the picture of Obama and the little girl on updated cover of this version?

It would appear that kid borrowed that expression from Boehner…

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“Yep, when the rules don’t work in your favor, simply change the rules!”

Well, duh…

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Let the cowards filibuster.

Hagel gets in anyway and it is another enormous black eye for the Stupid, Insulting & Backward Party…

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Yep, when the rules don’t work in your favor, simply change the rules!

DIA, a bit of recent history on this:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuclear_option

The ["nuclear option"] maneuver was brought to prominence in 2005 when Majority Leader Bill Frist (Republican of Tennessee) threatened its use to end Democratic-led filibusters of judicial nominees submitted by President George W. Bush. In response to this threat, Democrats threatened to shut down the Senate and prevent consideration of all routine and legislative Senate business. The ultimate confrontation was prevented by the Gang of 14, a group of seven Democratic and seven Republican Senators, all of whom agreed to oppose the nuclear option and oppose filibusters of judicial nominees, except in extraordinary circumstances.

and what that fails to point out succinctly, but I will–the Democrats caved, they allowed a vote on the nominee in question. Should the Republicans do likewise, I don’t’ think we’ll hear much about the nuclear option… until the NEXT example of foot-dragging on one of Obama’s high-level nominees gets some publicity.

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Recess appointment in two weeks.

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@doggone, read Kahneman, this phenomenon may be termed “”cognitive ease”, Zajonic called it the mere exposure effect…

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Did anyone notice the picture of Obama and the little girl on updated cover of this version? It would appear that kid borrowed that expression from Boehner…

I was wondering how many families canceled vacations so their kids could be there. That kid is probably thinking “I was supposed to be riding Dumbo right now.”

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“Recess appointment in two weeks.”

Did the SCOTUS just smack down a bunch from last time?

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In 1982 seven people were killed by poisoned tylenol pills. In response drug companies developed layers of protection to prevent tampering with pills. Of course, Johnson & Johnson is a responsible consumer products company, so they had a reputation to protect.
Now, 10,000 people will be killed this year by guns, but we cannot do anything to improve the safety of gun use
Maybe the difference is that J & J knew they might be sued, if they didn’t take steps. Whereas, Wayne provides the protection for the gun manufacturers and dealers, so they don’t worry about being held responsible.
A victim of gun violence should have the same recourse as someone hurt in an auto accident. There is liability insurance to pay medical and death benefits. Gun insurance should be universally required, so gun buyers pay the true cost of their gun ownership. We don’t know which buyer is going to drive up to Chicago and sell guns to the gangs, but we know somebody does. In fact, the poster here who said the bad guys will always have guns was probably quoting from the advertizing pitch of the gun runners –”Don’t worry, as long as I’m around you’ll have a reliable source of guns.”
The cost of caring for victims of gun violence is probably a major cost for taxpayers. I am tired of subsidizing the profits of gun dealers and manufacturers, while I have to worry that I might turn around in the wrong driveway.

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TaxPayer

February 14th, 2013
2:52 pm

Where can I locate this “academic” study and the “researchers”?

IMO, they are giving too much credit for planning by whomever but I’d sure like to read the study and understand its purpose and funding sources..

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@jam ,Hagel being a republican is stupid and backward, we agree..best for the country for him to withdraw , his hearing was awful. BUT, who is better?

THE Chairborne WAS funny, REALLY funny!

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Michael

February 14th, 2013
2:57 pm

It is and will always be against public policy to insure for criminal activity as you mention. Insurance is for fortuitous loss/damage not murder. Accidental discharge and the like are another story.

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Adam

February 14th, 2013
2:07 pm
TBG: The PERSON firing the weapon decides what it is used for.

So what? Does that mean we should trust the public with fully automatic weapons with no regulation, as an example? – Did I say that?

After all, it is the people who decide what it is used for. – Are you say that people DON’T decide how a tool is used?

Interestingly enough, even Reagan didn’t agree with this viewpoint of trusting the people as much as you do when you say it’s all about people deciding what to use something for. – First, I don’t give a bag of frozen monkey nipples what Reagan thought, I’m not a registered republician. Second, what does that have to do with my statement? People misuse items all the time. Ever use a butter knife on a screw? Ever use your cell phone as a light at night?

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WRONG Michael. No 10,000 people do not die of firearms a year. Look at the CDC statistics. 1,700 die of firearms. 700,000 die due to Doctor negligence, 3,800 kids drown a year. Hey lets ban doctors and pools.

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stands for decibels

February 14th, 2013
3:01 pm

Now that should be printed on the cover of every major news publication as a reminder how the NRA operates…

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alex

@Itchy, looking at the “curve” and applying “best fit” math (my eyeball)–that’s for Jay,one has to wonder,really wonder about the repubs and their inability to field an effective candidate, any candidate in the last election. I don’t know if it says less about the GOP or Obama–what a mess.

It really has nothing to do with the candidate. Dems have created an entitlement society and a great get out to vote campaign…. To many taker and not enough makers…. 2014 will be another 2010 most likely…. And it was historic in 2010 for Repubs….

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“It is and will always be against public policy to insure for criminal activity as you mention”

Public policy? An insurance company can insure just about anything it wants to, if someone is willing to pay for it. Just as Lloyds of London. And you could insure against liability, in case your gun is lost or stolen, and the insurance company could…of course…set requirements for the limits of THEIR liability that you must meet to qualify to collect.

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The Kennesaw law was never meant to be enforced. It was just a statement in reaction to a law passed by some town in th midwest that banned firearms within the city.
The Kennesaw law basiccaly says you have to have a firearm unless you don’t want to have one.

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I don’t give a bag of frozen monkey nipples what Reagan thought

Note to self: do not read That Black Guy’s posts while consuming Mello Yello.

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Adam you would win that bet.But some felons should have their rights restored automatically when their sentences are finished.

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I don’t give a bag of frozen monkey nipples what…

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A ban on future sales oh hihg capacity mags would save lives. Limit 15 rounds.
And increase the penalty for use of a fiream in the commission of a crime. Thirty years in jail without parole sounds about right.

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The tow line broke. Cheap cruise tickets anyone.

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Thirty years in jail without parole sounds about right.

Not to me it doesn’t. We already imprison entirely too many people for entirely too long.

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tc

February 14th, 2013
3:03 pm

Where did you get that stat suggesting negligence by healthcare providers kills 700,000 people per year? The number of folks who die every year from errors in treatment (otherwise preventable) is no where near that number. In addition, the calculation of this stat is highly subjective. Don’t hang your hat on that..

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Oscar – Agree that the law is not enforced, but I cant help but wonder (chicken and the egg thing) is crime low because of the gun law or despite the gun law. Can’t prove one way or the other. But kept my bases covered and now own a gun.

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In 1990, Tim Hyde, RJR Tobacco’s head of national field operations, in an eerily similar description of the Tea Party today, explained why groups like CSE were important to the tobacco industry’s fight against government regulation. Hyde wrote:

“… coalition building should proceed along two tracks: a) a grassroots organizational and largely local track,; b) and a national, intellectual track within the DC-New York corridor. Ultimately, we are talking about a “movement,” a national effort to change the way people think about government’s (and big business) role in our lives. Any such effort requires an intellectual foundation – a set of theoretical and ideological arguments on its behalf.”

Note the distinction between a “grass roots movement”, aka, the tea party and the “intellectual foundation”.

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Middle – I don’t have anything againt the law, and I have guns for protection also.
I think the publicity from the law helped decrease crime in Kennesaw.

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I want to quote the two paragraphs from GHW Bush that I cut from my excerpt, earlier:

John Magaw, who used to head the U.S.S.S. and now heads A.T.F., is one of the most principled, decent men I have ever known. He would be the last to condone the kind of illegal behavior your ugly letter charges. The same is true for the F.B.I.’s able Director Louis Freeh. I appointed Mr. Freeh to the Federal Bench. His integrity and honor are beyond question.

Both John Magaw and Judge Freeh were in office when I was President. They both now serve in the current administration. They both have badges. Neither of them would ever give the government’s “go ahead to harass, intimidate, even murder law abiding citizens.” (Your words)

I wonder if Poppy Bush ever considered purchasing one of these apparel items to express his true feelings?

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“I think the publicity from the law helped decrease crime in Kennesaw”

Yeah, but what good is a law if it’s not enforced…right?

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The senate by majority vote set its own rules at the beginning of each seesion of congress. Nothing wrong with that.

That’s just a tradition. They can change the rules *any* damn time they want. You sent the parliamentarian out of the room, you say “all right boys and girls, it’s on,” and you get it done.

(I wish Sean Connery were here to end this with “That’s the Chicago way.”)

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Stands – ok keep them out of prison by making it a capital. Execution within six weeks of conviction with no apeal. That would take care of the prison problem.

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Another gun column? The dog(the cat) has just been itching for me to show up today to accuse me of applauding the Newtown massacre. Have at it dog(or cat).

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Stevie – such insuance would be an illegal contract. Unenforcable as a violstion of public policy.

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Adam

February 14th, 2013
2:37 pm
it’s got nothing to do with intelligence or lack of same. It’s simply an expression of one person’s opinion as to the piece of human scum that is Herr LaPierre. It may be politically incorrect, but so what?

While I do not wish people to shoot other people, I could easily see how it would be more than possible for LaPierre to be shot by a mentally unstable NRA member, or shot and killed while defending himself, or shot and killed with his own weapon. All of these are statistically likely ways for murders to happen.
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I think if LaPierre is assaulted, it will be by someone who opposed his position and the NRA. Look at the comments here and else where. When it comes to someone advocating violence re: the gun control issue, it’s usually the pro gun control advocate proposing violence against the anti gun control.

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Jay, there are people who simply see the world differently than you do. To my knowledge, Mr. LaPierre hasn’t violated any gun laws or personally insulted you. There’s no reason to feel threatened by him.

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Stands – Kennesaw is a famous place – for the moutain and the battle. You never heard of Judge Kennesaw Mountain Landis?

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TaxPayer

February 14th, 2013
2:52 pm
Cons are so owned… by the Koch boys, that is. They knew that the GOP was the Party of the Stupid long before Jindal ever figured it out and they used it to their advantage. They still are.

Dimlibs are so owned by George Soros. They knew the Dimocrat party was the party of socialists long before Obama and they used it to their advantage.

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The crazy level in this dude is almost enough to make me surrender my own weaponry.

Damn these folks are nuts.

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jhunt163 @ 1:14

I am just saying that people need to be consistent.

You’ll never find consistency when you try to take blanket statements and apply them to the individual. If you’re talking to the individual, why not ask their position on those things instead of trying to paint a position on them to debate?

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rightwingextreme @ 1:34

I think you can get a guvment issued ID for free……just saying.

Thinking something isn’t the same as knowing or proving something….just sayin’

Are these “free” ID’s readily available to anybody that requests them? Are there any substantial hurdles to jump in order to get these ID’s? Are those ID’s on the acceptable ID list that keeps changing from state to state and election to election?

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If you plan on carrying a firearm outside of the home for personal protection in Georgia you must be fingerprinted and undergo a background check to be issued a Georgia Firearms License.

You can put one on the front seat of your car and drive around town in Georgia and not need a license. I think you can also keep one in the console and glove box if you’re not prohibited from obtaining a license.

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Doggone – Yes, your insurance agent knows that. Wreck your car in the commission of a crime, you don’t get paid = push your car off a cliff and file a claim, you go to jail for insurance fraud.

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Judge Kennesaw Mountain Landis?

Baseball fans remember what an a-hole he was, yes.

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JamVet

February 14th, 2013
2:51 pm
Let the cowards filibuster.

Hagel gets in anyway and it is another enormous black eye for the Stupid, Insulting & Backward Party…
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I see the new and improved Jam didn’t stick.

That’s ok, baby steps.

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“Yes, your insurance agent knows that. Wreck your car in the commission of a crime, you don’t get paid = push your car off a cliff and file a claim, you go to jail for insurance fraud”

then why would selling liability insurance for you guns be criminal? You never addressed that.

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SONS OF CONFEDERATE VETERANS!

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TBG @ 3:28

He wont be the 1st to fall of the “new and improved” wagon.

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Inuance against the use of your guns in criminal activity. Not if you are the one that commited the crime. Maybe if they were stolen you could be protected against loss because of liability.

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I also noticed the law states that you can carry your handgun without a carry permit if it is unloaded and in a case. I don’t know what constitutes a case though.

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Oscar

February 14th, 2013
3:23 pm

Yup. Unfortunately, the poster in question speaketh of what he not knoweth…

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Oh, how liberals love to stupidly deflect from real issues:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/dana-milbank-senators-turn-the-tables-on-caymans-investor-jack-lew/2013/02/13/d01cac80-7631-11e2-95e4-6148e45d7adb_story.html?hpid=z4hen

http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/jack-lew-oversaw-113-cayman-island-investment-funds_701211.html

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STEVIE
– I spent two of years in a box

Yeah, I know the feeling >^..^<

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Thulsa Doom

February 14th, 2013
3:30 pm

No insurace policy will pay for criminal activity. Some limited situations apply were coverage for corporate related activity will defend the insured but only up to the time of adjudication…vicarious liability as it were..

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Senators turn tables on Caymans investor Jack Lew…

Oversaw Up to 113 Island Investment Funds…

More drudgey spam.

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Aquagirl

February 14th, 2013
3:10 pm
I don’t give a bag of frozen monkey nipples what Reagan thought

Note to self: do not read That Black Guy’s posts while consuming Mello Yello.
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Sorry AG.

Send the bill to Adam.

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Former Obama spokesman: Menendez scandal now a ‘withered boob’…

Still more drudgey spam.

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Oscar

I think it’s been that way for a while. My mom has kept hers with her for as long as I can remember. I don’t know whether she has a CCW or not. It’s always in the car but never on her person.

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TBG

You know I’m gonna borrow that bag line, right?

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Wow, he sounds like democrat when you talk about cutting back on government spending, right?

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“No insurace policy will pay for criminal activity.” Yeah. I know that but stopped short of saying any criminal activity since drunk driving is a criminal activity but the insurance will still pay if you get maimed by a drunk driver. I realize intent is everything though and that drunk driving isn’t regarded as intentional criminal activity the same as say pushing your car off the cliff to collect insurance.

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Wonderful…it’s not the Drudge bullspit that’s a deflection…it’s pointing out that it’s Drudge bullspit that is a deflection…

A new low…

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“Drudgey spam, fourth time.”

I usually set the opening line on drudgey spam at 5. Some lucky bettor is close to being in the money for the day.

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JamVet

2014 will be another 2010 most likely…

I wholeheartedly agree!

And how will they pull it off?

Easy!

They will tell American blacks that they are stupid and lazy and need to get off of the plantation.

They will tell American women that they are sluts, prostitutes and FemiNazis.

They will be tell young Americans that they should be happy to work for slave wages.

And they will say that everyone who disagrees with them is a Communist/Marxist/socialist.

In fact, I’m predicting a neocon sweep in 2014!

No they won’t be saying any of these things. But dems will. Instead of actually debating on issues they use scare tactics… All the things you referred to was a mainstay on MessNBC, CNN, and the so called main stream networks during the 2012 election cycle. It’ll be hard for dems to do the get out the vote(fraud) charade in 14….

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Michael

February 14th, 2013
3:39 pm

With respect to Crime insurance example, is the crime committed by the insured paying premiums?

Maybe this will help:

As a matter of public policy, the law will not allow a business owner to insure against intentional acts or crimes. The reason is because it is assumed that if this is allowed, then businesses will not take steps to stop such actions or will engage in such acts because the acts are insured. The law presumes business owners will treat this as a cost of doing business rather than taking steps to stop the event from occurring. In fact, most states allow insurance only for fortuitous events – events that are “accidents.”

It is a complicated and most litigated act for insurance purposes. In cases of vicarious criminal liability, say an employee intentionally kills a patron, the entity will have coverage to the extent that they did a poor job hiring or otherwise created an environment ripe for the killing, but the perpetrator will not be covered for damages caused.

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Thulsa Doom

February 14th, 2013
3:41 pm

Fortuitous versus intentional.

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tT86AoSGEL8

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‘Why don’t you go back to commenting upon Rubio’s “career ending” awkward reach for a bottle of water (instead of, you know, actually evaluating the content of his address)?’

Sure, and you go back to questioning Obama’s birthplace…

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“Whatcha gonna do when all the blogs adapt the new format, crybaby?”

ROFL. Talk much there, Einstein? What are you going to do if intelligent debate is actually required – go back to cruising porn sites?

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Wayne LaPierre’s GREED is a fat DEMON with a small

mouth and whatever you feed it is NEVER enough.

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Thulsa Doom

February 14th, 2013
3:25 pm
that black guy,

the dog(the cat) got caught in another lie? Say it aint so…
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Yup.

According to him/her, it only takes 2 or 10 seconds for a back gorund check. And if the “machine” is down they might just sell it anyway (although to do so is against federal law).

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Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes

It’s sad that libs simply won’t face or don’t understand reality.

Not my fault that you can’t except the truth, sport.

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TBG: I think if LaPierre is assaulted, it will be by someone who opposed his position and the NRA. Look at the comments here and else where. When it comes to someone advocating violence re: the gun control issue, it’s usually the pro gun control advocate proposing violence against the anti gun control.

I happen to think it equally likely that a mentally ill person might attack him along with several others if he happens to be in the wrong crowded area at the wrong time. And I would place bets that LaPierre having a gun would have done next to nothing to stop or slow the gunman. So far, only instances in which trained officers or law enforcement officials are already around has a gunman been subdued, and even then it’s hit or miss.

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