The terrifying yet sadly amusing world of Wayne LaPierre
Coming to an America near you!!
I am very, very grateful that I do not live in Wayne LaPierre’s world. Because as described in a new column by the NRA leader, that world is a scary place right out of a Mad Max movie:
“Meanwhile, President Obama is leading this country to financial ruin, borrowing over a trillion dollars a year for phony “stimulus” spending and other payoffs for his political cronies. Nobody knows if or when the fiscal collapse will come, but if the country is broke, there likely won’t be enough money to pay for police protection. And the American people know it.
Hurricanes. Tornadoes. Riots. Terrorists. Gangs. Lone criminals. These are perils we are sure to face—not just maybe. It’s not paranoia to buy a gun. It’s survival. It’s responsible behavior, and it’s time we encourage law-abiding Americans to do just that….
Responsible Americans realize that the world as we know it has changed. We, the American people, clearly see the daunting forces we will undoubtedly face: terrorists, crime, drug gangs, the possibility of Euro-style debt riots, civil unrest or natural disaster.
Since the election, millions of Americans have been lining up in front of gun stores, Cabela’s and Bass Pro Shops exercising their freedom while they still have it. They are demonstrating they have a mass determination to buy, own and use firearms. Millions of Americans are using market forces like never before to demonstrate their ardent support for our firearm freedoms. That’s one of the very best ways we can Stand And Fight.”
There’s a quivering, even pornographic quality to LaPierre’s description of the apocalypse that looms ahead. And isn’t it interesting that his recommended solution — BUY MORE GUNS!!! BUY MORE AMMO!!!! PANIC!! – just happens to dovetail with the best interests of his paid masters in the firearms industry.
As he puts it in his closing:
“We will not surrender. We will not appease. We will buy more guns than ever. We will use them for sport and lawful self-defense more than ever. We will grow the NRA more than ever. And we will be prouder than ever to be freedom-loving NRA patriots. And with your help, we will ensure that the Second Amendment remains America’s First Freedom.”
– Jay Bookman
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jhunt163
February 14th, 2013
2:11 pm
Yeah, I just saw this from the Ga. website:
If you are not prohibited by law from possessing (see the definition under the “Possession” section at the top of this page) a firearm you may carry a weapon on your own property and in your own home, motor vehicle and place of business without needing a valid weapons carry license. (including the property that the business is located on IF the property is owned by the business owner).
Recon 0311 2533
February 14th, 2013
2:12 pm
Actually, I just believe that is for concealed carry. You can carry in the open with no permit. The law may have changed though.
No you cannot carry a gun outside of your home, or vehicle without a valid Georgia Firearms License. You can carry a long gun for lawful hunting purposes or both hand guns and long guns for target shooting at legal firing ranges. I seem to recall that the law does allow for an independent business owner to have a firearm for protection at his or her place of business.
ATL Tiger
February 14th, 2013
2:12 pm
“I’d take you up on your bet but I just learned that 98% of people who make claims about betting that 99% know [X] are just pulling out of the butt of a strawman. #pullingmadeupstatisticsoutofyourbuttstrawman”
Cool story bro, tell it again
stands for decibels
February 14th, 2013
2:12 pm
How intelligent is that.
Not very, I agree (and I think most everyone else here does, too.)
комиссар (Occupation)
February 14th, 2013
2:15 pm
Babies lie slaughtered in the halls of a school in Newtown, CT, and yawns from the likes of Scout and co.
Welcome to the Oligarchy.
Welcome to the Occupation.
stands for decibels
February 14th, 2013
2:15 pm
By the way, I had a look at Chicago’s crime stats. As bad as things have been in the past year, their murder total (like violent crime throughout the country, actually) is much, much lower than it had been back in the early 90s. In ‘92 there were 943 murders; in 2012, 506.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crime_in_Chicago
(Which is of course 506 too many.)
curious
February 14th, 2013
2:17 pm
Now that everyone is in agreement on guns, let’s start a campaign to elect Newt as the next Pope.
Newt the First. Nice ring to it.
stands for decibels
February 14th, 2013
2:17 pm
you may carry a weapon on your own property
Dumb question, but does that include property in which you reside as a tenant?
I assume so, but a cow orker claimed otherwise the other day and I was too lazy to look it up. (Still am I guess.)
Doggone/GA
February 14th, 2013
2:19 pm
“Dumb question, but does that include property in which you reside as a tenant?”
If I was going to guess, and I am, I’d think it might depend on whether said property was single-family or multi-family.
getalife
February 14th, 2013
2:19 pm
The American people do not even bother to listen to the weak and pitiful right any longer in our country.
The right are toast and will probably split divided and conquered.
I tried to help you but now you are stuck without leaders, flailing in the wilderness.
Personal responsibility so don’t blame others for your failures.
saywhat?
February 14th, 2013
2:20 pm
“And we will be prouder than ever to be freedom-loving NRA patriots”.
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There is the problem. They are more patriotic toward a sales promotion organization than they are to their country.
Keep Up the Good Fight!
February 14th, 2013
2:21 pm
For every 1 gun sold in IL that leaves the state, 6 guns are brought in from other states. Most illegal handguns used in crimes in Chicago come from sales in states other than IL.
Peadawg
February 14th, 2013
2:22 pm
“Dumb question, but does that include property in which you reside as a tenant?”
I could always go the d-bag Kamspam route and ask if your google is broken.
Doggone/GA
February 14th, 2013
2:22 pm
“Most illegal handguns used in crimes in Chicago come from sales in states other than IL”
Maybe they need better border control!
Thomas Heyward Jr
February 14th, 2013
2:24 pm
As seen through the eyes of Bookman…………
First we saw Rubio’s world.
Now Pierres.
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Either one is better than the collective’s world.
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http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_ma5qffo6yc1rwsr09.png
Hmmmmmmm
February 14th, 2013
2:24 pm
Komnccap
I know this is difficult for you to understand…. Let me speak S L O W L Y….. GUNS were NOT the ISSUE… I mean good grief .. Some people can’t see beyond their own NOSE…
oldguy
February 14th, 2013
2:25 pm
Slow week Jay?
Just love to drop by and see what the Lock-step-libs are pushing this week.
So apparently its hate the NRA et al this week.
Happy to oblige
As a Life member of the NRA I would expect name calling from the gun haters here.
Just a fact or two:
NRA membership continues to grow by the thousands each week. It has NEVER been stronger than it is today. People are not joining in droves because they have confidence that Obama (and Jay et al) are going to look out for their second amendment rights.
Your hero Dirty Harry Reed is a supporter and, in fact, is responsible for putting the anti-registration clause in the “pass it to know what is in it” health care grab act.
Pass new laws? No very likely.
If any new laws are passed – expect me and millions of fellow gun owners to pay about as much attention to them as Atlanta drivers do to the speed limit on I 285
When in doubt – belittle your opponents.
Well, believe it, we are your opponents!
curious
February 14th, 2013
2:26 pm
Listened to piece on NPR about the KKK and its rise and fall.
The NRA is on the same glide slope.
mm
February 14th, 2013
2:26 pm
“For the very first time in America’s long history, cowards in the United Senate have filibustered the nomination of a Secretary of Defense.”
LOL. And they claim the Dems are weak on defense.
So they have sabotaged the defense dept, the ATF, the NLRB, the consumer protection agency, and I’m sure there are others.
Scooter
February 14th, 2013
2:27 pm
Very similar to the federal government’s portrayal of the sequestration that may come in March. In truth, many local governments forced furlough days and cut budgets but we are to believe the federal government can’t without apocalyptic results. The gullibility is thick amongst us Americans!
Adam
February 14th, 2013
2:27 pm
How intelligent is that.
It’s not intelligent, but it turns out that things like that seem to be happening on a more regular basis now. Even Navy SEALs are being shot in places where guns are plentiful. Guns don’t protect people, PEOPLE protect people.
stands for decibels
February 14th, 2013
2:28 pm
If I was going to guess, and I am, I’d think it might depend on whether said property was single-family or multi-family.
So if you’re a working class guy in an apartment in a sketchy neighborhood and far more likely to fear a break-in than a comfy upper-middle-classer in a gated community, you have to jump through hoops to protect yourself that the richer guy needn’t fret about?
jeez, I’d hope that’s not the case, although it’d certainly be in keeping with this state’s long history of screwing the poors…
F. Sinkwich
February 14th, 2013
2:29 pm
“Chuck Hagel’s path to the Pentagon struck another major roadblock on Thursday when Senate Republicans kept up their threat to filibuster, throwing the nomination into limbo as Congress prepared to quit town for a weeklong recess.”
Bummer.
moonbat betty
February 14th, 2013
2:29 pm
Is that Jay’s high school football picture?
mm
February 14th, 2013
2:30 pm
I invented a time machine. I was able to go back to the 1950’s.
I use it everytime I go see my Mom.
She lives in GA. I just drive across the GA state line and voila, it’s 1955 again.
комиссар (Occupation)
February 14th, 2013
2:30 pm
Hmmmmm: “I know this is difficult for you to understand…. Let me speak S L O W L Y….. GUNS were NOT the ISSUE”
Where did I say anything about guns?
Doggone/GA
February 14th, 2013
2:31 pm
“So if you’re a working class guy in an apartment in a sketchy neighborhood and far more likely to fear a break-in than a comfy upper-middle-classer in a gated community, you have to jump through hoops to protect yourself that the richer guy needn’t fret about?”
Well, I wouldn’t be surprised. The argument could be made that even as a tenent, on property that is single family…you are on “your” property. But in a mutli-family location, only your apartment is “yours”, but the rest of the property is not.
That Black Guy
February 14th, 2013
2:31 pm
DownInAlbany
February 14th, 2013
1:19 pm
That Black Guy
February 14th, 2013
1:16 pm
Nice rebuttal. In the words of Dr. Sheldon Cooper, the dog’s comments are pure “hocum.”
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Than particular poster does have a habit of, ummmm…….LYING!
A humanist
February 14th, 2013
2:31 pm
In the middle, stands, Adam, et al – it’s got nothing to do with intelligence or lack of same. It’s simply an expression of one person’s opinion as to the piece of human scum that is Herr LaPierre. It may be politically incorrect, but so what?
Keep Up the Good Fight!
February 14th, 2013
2:31 pm
Stands, not sure about your question. A quick look at http://www.georgiapacking.org/law.php does not seem to answer the question but I don’t have time to look at the underlying code as I am headed out the door.
Recon 0311 2533
February 14th, 2013
2:31 pm
GUNS were NOT the ISSUE
Guns in the hands of violent criminals and the criminally insane are the problem. Unfortunately, these types can find firearms regardless of how many laws that are put on the books restricting or banning firearms, ammunition and accessories.
curious
February 14th, 2013
2:32 pm
Hagel isn’t qualified as Sec of Defense; Not enough draft deferments.
mm
February 14th, 2013
2:33 pm
I see McCain is trying to end the flibuster for Hagel.
As soon as this is over, Reid needs to implement true flibuster reform.
appleseed
February 14th, 2013
2:33 pm
privilege/right. license to exercise the privilege.Use the license as ID to purchase the gun you are allowed under the right.
Thomas Heyward Jr
February 14th, 2013
2:33 pm
Choose the World of Basic Decency instead.
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http://www.amfirstbooks.com/IntroPages/NonToolbarTopics/From_Bad_to_Worse_to_Disaster/Art/Never_served_candidates_want_war,_Ron_Paul_veteran_wants_peace.jpg
That Black Guy
February 14th, 2013
2:34 pm
TBS
February 14th, 2013
1:26 pm
godless & TBG
Me thinks the dog (cat) just posts stupidity for stupidity’s sake…………
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True dat, TBS, true dat.
the dog
February 14th, 2013
2:34 pm
Goodness, must have touched a nerve. The cons are going crazy over background checks happening in seconds at a Bass Pro shop. They must have failed. HAhahahahahhahahahahhahahah
комиссар (Occupation)
February 14th, 2013
2:35 pm
Hmmmm: “I know this is difficult for you to understand…. Let me speak S L O W L Y….. GUNS were NOT the ISSUE”
In my statement I spoke of oligarchy, not guns.
oldguy
February 14th, 2013
2:36 pm
Scooter,
P T Barnham said it best 120 years ago “No one ever went broke underestimating the intelligence of the American public!”
Adam
February 14th, 2013
2:37 pm
it’s got nothing to do with intelligence or lack of same. It’s simply an expression of one person’s opinion as to the piece of human scum that is Herr LaPierre. It may be politically incorrect, but so what?
While I do not wish people to shoot other people, I could easily see how it would be more than possible for LaPierre to be shot by a mentally unstable NRA member, or shot and killed while defending himself, or shot and killed with his own weapon. All of these are statistically likely ways for murders to happen.
jhunt163
February 14th, 2013
2:37 pm
Stands, Keep is right, it does not specifically address your question, but it does say your home. It also says that you can carry in someone else’s motor vehicle unless that person specifically tells you no.
stands for decibels
February 14th, 2013
2:37 pm
and ask if your google is broken
PD, actually, I remember now that I HAD looked around, but couldn’t find anything definitive.
A bit of cursory googling just now and I still can’t. Kind of frustrating.
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Most illegal handguns used in crimes in Chicago come from sales in states other than IL.
and that’s why I always think that focusing all that much on this city or this state’s restrictions is a bit silly. A chain’s only as strong as its weakest link, after all–we don’t have border checks from state to state.
Realistically, the only way to know if stricter gun regs would have any effect on our still ridiculously-high murder rate (which is about 4x that of Canada and the UK) would be to impose them nationwide.
Hmmmmmmm
February 14th, 2013
2:37 pm
LOL komnccap….
Recon 0311 you and komnccap get together and find some help…. Again, children… GUNS are NOT the issue…
getalife
February 14th, 2013
2:38 pm
Now the gop are filibustering their own.
It is over for the gop.
Toast.
Adam
February 14th, 2013
2:38 pm
appleseed: privilege/right. license to exercise the privilege.Use the license as ID to purchase the gun you are allowed under the right.
If you really believe it’s a right, then you would be behind an effort to make sure that even felons and mentally ill people, as long as they are American citizens, should be allowed to own any arms they want, up to and including the most advanced military armaments.
I’m willing to bet you won’t go that far, though.
As such, it is a “right” in name only. We have restrictions on rights, even now.
godless heathen - owner of many things he does not need
February 14th, 2013
2:39 pm
I’d take you up on your bet but I just learned that 98% of people who make claims about betting that 99% know [X] are just pulling out of the butt of a strawman. #pullingmadeupstatisticsoutofyourbuttstrawman
67% of all statistics are just made up on the spot. According to Todd Snider.
Doggone/GA
February 14th, 2013
2:39 pm
“Now the gop are filibustering their own”
Nah, they’ll just stoke their outrage by calling him a RINO
Itchy Finger
February 14th, 2013
2:39 pm
http://www.gallup.com/poll/160385/obama-rated-highest-foreign-affairs-lowest-deficit.aspx
Adam
February 14th, 2013
2:40 pm
stands: and that’s why I always think that focusing all that much on this city or this state’s restrictions is a bit silly. A chain’s only as strong as its weakest link, after all–we don’t have border checks from state to state.
What baffles me is why, when I explain this, cons continue to argue as if I said nothing and/or they did not understand the concept.
stands for decibels
February 14th, 2013
2:40 pm
But in a mutli-family location, only your apartment is “yours”, but the rest of the property is not.
ah…I think we might be talking at cross purposes here–I can see how the right to keep a piece in your own rental apartment wouldn’t mean you’d have the right to keep it at a neighbor’s in your building, if you were over, visiting, selling Girl Scout cookies, whatevs…
Recon 0311 2533
February 14th, 2013
2:40 pm
Is that Jay’s high school football picture?
betty, that’s one of the wild eyed liberals who post on here. I think it’s getalife
alex
February 14th, 2013
2:41 pm
@mm read”the Fifties” by David Halberstam and save the gas (it’s more than 25 cents per gallon now)!
Doggone/GA
February 14th, 2013
2:42 pm
“What baffles me is why, when I explain this, cons continue to argue as if I said nothing and/or they did not understand the concept”
I’ve stolen a term for that from the computer world: WORM (Write Once Read Many)
Once something is written to their brains, it can never be changed…only repeated and repeated and repeated
комиссар (Occupation)
February 14th, 2013
2:43 pm
Hmmmmmmm: “Recon 0311 you and komnccap get together and find some help…. Again, children… GUNS are NOT the issue”
As I said, I partly agree.
JamVet
February 14th, 2013
2:44 pm
We blundered into Iraq because of flawed intelligence, flawed assumptions, flawed judgments, and ideologically driven motives…
THAT is why the 101st Chairborne hates him.
Doggone/GA
February 14th, 2013
2:44 pm
“I think we might be talking at cross purposes here”
Maybe, but “your property” includes your land, up to your legal property line. It’s like driving without a license. You can drive all over your property as much as you want, and you don’t need a license. But you can’t drive on your neighbors property without one…even though you never go on the public road.
curious
February 14th, 2013
2:45 pm
Most of those Senators filibustering wouldn’t know a helmet from a hand grenade.
DownInAlbany
February 14th, 2013
2:45 pm
mm
February 14th, 2013
2:33 pm
I see McCain is trying to end the flibuster for Hagel.
As soon as this is over, Reid needs to implement true flibuster reform
Yep, when the rules don’t work in your favor, simply change the rules!
Doggone/GA
February 14th, 2013
2:48 pm
“Yep, when the rules don’t work in your favor, simply change the rules!”
Well, since that’s how the rules got to be the say they are now…what’s so different about changing them again for that reason?
JamVet
February 14th, 2013
2:48 pm
ATL Tiger, forget Wayne “the Cop Hater” LaPierre, 89.637% of the people who bought their arsenals recently probably have never heard of George Washington, Thomas Jefferson or Abraham Lincoln either. (They were all liberal traitors!)
alex
February 14th, 2013
2:48 pm
@Itchy, looking at the “curve” and applying “best fit” math (my eyeball)–that’s for Jay,one has to wonder,really wonder about the repubs and their inability to field an effective candidate, any candidate in the last election. I don’t know if it says less about the GOP or Obama–what a mess.
Stevie Ray the freshly minted bleeding heart liberal!
February 14th, 2013
2:49 pm
Did anyone notice the picture of Obama and the little girl on updated cover of this version?
It would appear that kid borrowed that expression from Boehner…
curious
February 14th, 2013
2:49 pm
DownInAlbany
“Yep, when the rules don’t work in your favor, simply change the rules!’
I think Reid may want to go back to the original rules which were changed to the present system not many years ago.
Peadawg
February 14th, 2013
2:50 pm
“Yep, when the rules don’t work in your favor, simply change the rules!”
Well, duh…
Regnad Kcin
February 14th, 2013
2:50 pm
“67% of all statistics are just made up on the spot. According to Todd Snider.”
89% of all people know that.
JamVet
February 14th, 2013
2:51 pm
Let the cowards filibuster.
Hagel gets in anyway and it is another enormous black eye for the Stupid, Insulting & Backward Party…
TaxPayer
February 14th, 2013
2:52 pm
A new academic study confirms that front groups with longstanding ties to the tobacco industry and the billionaire Koch brothers planned the formation of the Tea Party movement more than a decade before it exploded onto the U.S. political scene.
Far from a genuine grassroots uprising, this astroturf effort was curated by wealthy industrialists years in advance. Many of the anti-science operatives who defended cigarettes are currently deploying their tobacco-inspired playbook internationally to evade accountability for the fossil fuel industry’s role in driving climate disruption.
Cons are so owned… by the Koch boys, that is. They knew that the GOP was the Party of the Stupid long before Jindal ever figured it out and they used it to their advantage. They still are.
stands for decibels
February 14th, 2013
2:52 pm
Yep, when the rules don’t work in your favor, simply change the rules!
DIA, a bit of recent history on this:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuclear_option
The ["nuclear option"] maneuver was brought to prominence in 2005 when Majority Leader Bill Frist (Republican of Tennessee) threatened its use to end Democratic-led filibusters of judicial nominees submitted by President George W. Bush. In response to this threat, Democrats threatened to shut down the Senate and prevent consideration of all routine and legislative Senate business. The ultimate confrontation was prevented by the Gang of 14, a group of seven Democratic and seven Republican Senators, all of whom agreed to oppose the nuclear option and oppose filibusters of judicial nominees, except in extraordinary circumstances.
and what that fails to point out succinctly, but I will–the Democrats caved, they allowed a vote on the nominee in question. Should the Republicans do likewise, I don’t’ think we’ll hear much about the nuclear option… until the NEXT example of foot-dragging on one of Obama’s high-level nominees gets some publicity.
getalife
February 14th, 2013
2:52 pm
It is about the Iraq occupation.
neocons should leave politics.
Epic failures.
getalife
February 14th, 2013
2:54 pm
Recess appointment in two weeks.
Peadawg
February 14th, 2013
2:54 pm
stands for decibels
February 14th, 2013
2:52 pm
I don’t remember much from 2005…were Democrats as hostile to Bush as Republicans are to Obama now? I don’t see them caving…sadly.
alex
February 14th, 2013
2:55 pm
@doggone, read Kahneman, this phenomenon may be termed “”cognitive ease”, Zajonic called it the mere exposure effect…
Stevie Ray the freshly minted bleeding heart liberal!
February 14th, 2013
2:55 pm
alex
February 14th, 2013
2:48 pm
What comes around goes around eh?
Gary Hart, Micheal Dukakis, Jimmy Carter, Walter Mondale? No end of the cycle anytime soon. You can wish all you want that the cycle is broken but that isn’t remotely the case.
Aquagirl
February 14th, 2013
2:55 pm
Did anyone notice the picture of Obama and the little girl on updated cover of this version? It would appear that kid borrowed that expression from Boehner…
I was wondering how many families canceled vacations so their kids could be there. That kid is probably thinking “I was supposed to be riding Dumbo right now.”
tc
February 14th, 2013
2:55 pm
Okay idiots. Let’s talk about Hurricane Katrina, and how a father protected his family from the black mob that was after them. Numerous cases of people protecting themselves with firearms during Katrina. Oh, and where was the police, in a hotel drinking beer. I’m for limiting certain firearms. But let’s not get stupid and think the police and government will save us. Look at all the looting that happens when there is a disaster. Of course the media won’t show blacks looting, that would be racial.
Peadawg
February 14th, 2013
2:55 pm
“Recess appointment in two weeks.”
Did the SCOTUS just smack down a bunch from last time?
Doggone/GA
February 14th, 2013
2:56 pm
“@doggone, read Kahneman, this phenomenon may be termed “”cognitive ease”, Zajonic called it the mere exposure effect…”
Thanks, but I think “WORM brain” is easier to remember
Michael
February 14th, 2013
2:57 pm
In 1982 seven people were killed by poisoned tylenol pills. In response drug companies developed layers of protection to prevent tampering with pills. Of course, Johnson & Johnson is a responsible consumer products company, so they had a reputation to protect.
Now, 10,000 people will be killed this year by guns, but we cannot do anything to improve the safety of gun use
Maybe the difference is that J & J knew they might be sued, if they didn’t take steps. Whereas, Wayne provides the protection for the gun manufacturers and dealers, so they don’t worry about being held responsible.
A victim of gun violence should have the same recourse as someone hurt in an auto accident. There is liability insurance to pay medical and death benefits. Gun insurance should be universally required, so gun buyers pay the true cost of their gun ownership. We don’t know which buyer is going to drive up to Chicago and sell guns to the gangs, but we know somebody does. In fact, the poster here who said the bad guys will always have guns was probably quoting from the advertizing pitch of the gun runners –”Don’t worry, as long as I’m around you’ll have a reliable source of guns.”
The cost of caring for victims of gun violence is probably a major cost for taxpayers. I am tired of subsidizing the profits of gun dealers and manufacturers, while I have to worry that I might turn around in the wrong driveway.
Hmmmmmmm
February 14th, 2013
2:58 pm
No worries Kmonccap… Some of the comments on this site are very scary… The little regard to our civil liberties is MINDBLOWING…
Stevie Ray the freshly minted bleeding heart liberal!
February 14th, 2013
2:58 pm
TaxPayer
February 14th, 2013
2:52 pm
Where can I locate this “academic” study and the “researchers”?
IMO, they are giving too much credit for planning by whomever but I’d sure like to read the study and understand its purpose and funding sources..
getalife
February 14th, 2013
2:58 pm
Since the cons are self defeatists, it is fitting to watch the gop self destruct.
alex
February 14th, 2013
3:00 pm
@jam ,Hagel being a republican is stupid and backward, we agree..best for the country for him to withdraw , his hearing was awful. BUT, who is better?
THE Chairborne WAS funny, REALLY funny!
Jefferson
February 14th, 2013
3:00 pm
You can drive 72 in the left lane and that is within the rules, but not the thing to do.
Stevie Ray the freshly minted bleeding heart liberal!
February 14th, 2013
3:01 pm
Michael
February 14th, 2013
2:57 pm
It is and will always be against public policy to insure for criminal activity as you mention. Insurance is for fortuitous loss/damage not murder. Accidental discharge and the like are another story.
stands for decibels
February 14th, 2013
3:01 pm
oh, something from way earlier, I meant to address:
Even George W. Bush dropped his membership in the NRA over the tone of their remarks
I’m pretty sure you are thinking of George H.W. Bush.
http://www.nytimes.com/1995/05/11/us/letter-of-resignation-sent-by-bush-to-rifle-association.html
I was outraged when, even in the wake of the Oklahoma City tragedy, Mr. Wayne LaPierre, executive vice president of N.R.A., defended his attack on federal agents as “jack-booted thugs.” To attack Secret Service agents or A.T.F. people or any government law enforcement people as “wearing Nazi bucket helmets and black storm trooper uniforms” wanting to “attack law abiding citizens” is a vicious slander on good people.
Al Whicher, who served on my [ United States Secret Service ] detail when I was Vice President and President, was killed in Oklahoma City. He was no Nazi. He was a kind man, a loving parent, a man dedicated to serving his country — and serve it well he did.
In 1993, I attended the wake for A.T.F. agent Steve Willis, another dedicated officer who did his duty. I can assure you that this honorable man, killed by weird cultists, was no Nazi.
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I am a gun owner and an avid hunter. Over the years I have agreed with most of N.R.A.’s objectives, particularly your educational and training efforts, and your fundamental stance in favor of owning guns.
However, your broadside against Federal agents deeply offends my own sense of decency and honor; and it offends my concept of service to country. It indirectly slanders a wide array of government law enforcement officials, who are out there, day and night, laying their lives on the line for all of us.
You have not repudiated Mr. LaPierre’s unwarranted attack. Therefore, I resign as a Life Member of N.R.A., said resignation to be effective upon your receipt of this letter. Please remove my name from your membership list.
I remember wanting to stand and cheer when I first read that, back in the day.
That Black Guy
February 14th, 2013
3:02 pm
Adam
February 14th, 2013
2:07 pm
TBG: The PERSON firing the weapon decides what it is used for.
So what? Does that mean we should trust the public with fully automatic weapons with no regulation, as an example? – Did I say that?
After all, it is the people who decide what it is used for. – Are you say that people DON’T decide how a tool is used?
Interestingly enough, even Reagan didn’t agree with this viewpoint of trusting the people as much as you do when you say it’s all about people deciding what to use something for. – First, I don’t give a bag of frozen monkey nipples what Reagan thought, I’m not a registered republician. Second, what does that have to do with my statement? People misuse items all the time. Ever use a butter knife on a screw? Ever use your cell phone as a light at night?
In the middle
February 14th, 2013
3:03 pm
Below is the ordinance is Kennesaw – Since the law was enacted there have been 0 murders. Kennesaws overall crime rate is subtantially lower that the state or national average. Just sayin..
Sec. 34-21. – Heads of households to maintain firearms.
(a)
In order to provide for the emergency management of the city, and further in order to provide for and protect the safety, security and general welfare of the city and its inhabitants, every head of household residing in the city limits is required to maintain a firearm, together with ammunition therefore.
(b)
Exempt from the effect of this section are those heads of households who suffer a physical or mental disability which would prohibit them from using such a firearm. Further exempt from the effect of this section are those heads of households who are paupers or who conscientiously oppose maintaining firearms as a result of beliefs or religious doctrine, or persons convicted of a felony.
(Ord. No. 2009-03, Exh. A, 2-16-09)
tc
February 14th, 2013
3:03 pm
WRONG Michael. No 10,000 people do not die of firearms a year. Look at the CDC statistics. 1,700 die of firearms. 700,000 die due to Doctor negligence, 3,800 kids drown a year. Hey lets ban doctors and pools.
JamVet
February 14th, 2013
3:04 pm
alex, none of my beeswax, but just curious, are you a Republican?
Stevie Ray the freshly minted bleeding heart liberal!
February 14th, 2013
3:04 pm
stands for decibels
February 14th, 2013
3:01 pm
Now that should be printed on the cover of every major news publication as a reminder how the NRA operates…
Logical Dude
February 14th, 2013
3:04 pm
Peadawg: I could always go the d-bag Kamspam route and ask if your google is broken.
Did you use this one yet?
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=gun+on+private+property+as+tenant
Itchy Finger
February 14th, 2013
3:04 pm
alex
@Itchy, looking at the “curve” and applying “best fit” math (my eyeball)–that’s for Jay,one has to wonder,really wonder about the repubs and their inability to field an effective candidate, any candidate in the last election. I don’t know if it says less about the GOP or Obama–what a mess.
It really has nothing to do with the candidate. Dems have created an entitlement society and a great get out to vote campaign…. To many taker and not enough makers…. 2014 will be another 2010 most likely…. And it was historic in 2010 for Repubs….
Ivan
February 14th, 2013
3:06 pm
“The cost of caring for victims of gun violence is probably a major cost for taxpayers”
Have a link?
Doggone/GA
February 14th, 2013
3:06 pm
“It is and will always be against public policy to insure for criminal activity as you mention”
Public policy? An insurance company can insure just about anything it wants to, if someone is willing to pay for it. Just as Lloyds of London. And you could insure against liability, in case your gun is lost or stolen, and the insurance company could…of course…set requirements for the limits of THEIR liability that you must meet to qualify to collect.
getalife
February 14th, 2013
3:07 pm
The NRA are gun lobbyists and their only purpose in life is to sell guns.
Oscar
February 14th, 2013
3:08 pm
The Kennesaw law was never meant to be enforced. It was just a statement in reaction to a law passed by some town in th midwest that banned firearms within the city.
The Kennesaw law basiccaly says you have to have a firearm unless you don’t want to have one.
Doggone/GA
February 14th, 2013
3:09 pm
“The NRA are gun lobbyists and their only purpose in life is to sell guns.”
That’s just about as accurate as saying that Planned Parenthood’s only purpose is to provide abortions.
Aquagirl
February 14th, 2013
3:10 pm
I don’t give a bag of frozen monkey nipples what Reagan thought
Note to self: do not read That Black Guy’s posts while consuming Mello Yello.
rightwingextreme
February 14th, 2013
3:11 pm
stands for decibels
February 14th, 2013
11:41 am
Weren’t there armed gangs and looters during the days and weeks after Katrina?
Not anything like the BS our lovely right wing concocted. There are, probably, still millions of Americans who actually believe that rescue choppers were shot at by crazed Negroes, and of course that the Superdome was some rape factory.
uhhhh….those were the reports coming out of Nawlins on all the major news services….cnn included.
the media hyped up the situation in Nawlins to make Bush look bad.
So if I understand you you’re saying it wasn’t really Bush’s fault after all?? That FEMA did a decent job….about like they’ve done with relief efforts with Sandy??
appleseed
February 14th, 2013
3:11 pm
Adam you would win that bet.But some felons should have their rights restored automatically when their sentences are finished.