With Ted Nugent invite, “the stupid party” rocks on
“We’ve got to stop being the stupid party. It’s time for a new Republican Party that talks like adults. We had a number of Republicans damage the brand this year with offensive and bizarre comments. I’m here to say we’ve had enough of that.”
– Louisiana Gov. Bobby Jindal,
in a speech to the Republican National Committee
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“I’ll tell you this right now: If Barack Obama becomes the president in November, again, I will either be dead or in jail by this time next year. Why are you laughing? Do you think that’s funny? That’s not funny at all. I’m serious as a heart attack….
“… it isn’t the enemy that ruined America. It’s good people who bent over and let the enemy in. If the coyote’s in your living room, pissing on your couch, it’s not the coyote’s fault. It’s your fault for not shooting him. So, it’s an important time. So, you’re talking about exhibits, you’re talking about hardware and ammo and everyone’s fondling sporting goods and everybody’s got a big old sexy grin on their face ’cause they’re surrounded by ballistic celebration — that’s cool. But what I feel in this room, is I feel this: I’m not taking this crap anymore.”
– Ted Nugent, NRA board member, gun enthusiast and ex-rock star, speaking to the NRA convention in April, shortly before a visit from the Secret Service
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WASHINGTON – Musician and gun advocate Ted Nugent will be Congressman Steve Stockman’s guest at Tuesday evening’s State of the Union Address by President Barack Obama. Nugent will be available to speak to the media before and after the Address.
“I am excited to have a patriot like Ted Nugent joining me in the House Chamber to hear from President Obama,” said Stockman. “After the Address I’m sure Ted will have plenty to say.”
To schedule an interview with Nugent, contact Senior Communications Advisor Donny.Ferguson@mail.house.gov.
– A press release issued Monday by Stockman’s congressional office.
The optics are not hard to predict. At some point in tonight’s State of the Union address, President Obama will bring up the tragedy in Newtown in which 20 young children were murdered. The cameras will pan to a Newtown teacher who survived the mass shooting, or to the first two Newtown police officers to arrive at that horrific scene, or to other invited guests linked to that tragedy. And then they will pan to Nugent and Stockman, asking the viewers an implied question: Which side are you on?
So no, Jindal’s plea notwithstanding, the GOP apparently is not ready to stop being the stupid party.
To be fair, a lot of Republican leaders must understand just how stupid it is to allow Nugent to become the personification of their party’s policy on gun control, especially in counterpoint to the victims of Newtown. They have to recognize that while the Motor City Moron’s presence at such an august event may thrill the hard-core gun crowd, serving as the equivalent of a very public middle finger extended in the direction of the president, it does not help a party trying to shed its extremist image.
Yet to date, I have seen no elected Republican official or party leader dare to say that publicly. I have seen no criticism, implied or otherwise, of Stockman’s decision. I have seen no attempt to put distance between Nugent and the party. I do not believe that would be the case if the situation were reversed, if a Democratic congressman had shown the extreme bad judgment of inviting a rapper who had strongly implied violence against a Republican president.
That silence doesn’t mean that Republican leaders necessarily endorse Stockman’s move or Nugent’s antics. However, it does mean that they lack the political courage and judgment to confront those destructive elements in their own party and to try to distance themselves from it. As a result, their political fortunes will continue to suffer.
– Jay Bookman
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0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
February 12th, 2013
1:24 pm
decibles:
Elected individuals represent the people who elected them.
Big City appointed chiefs represent the cronies who appointed them.
Native Atlantan
February 12th, 2013
1:24 pm
I agree Stands….if the Sheriffs take an oath to protect the Constitution and then state they will not enforce or support laws they FEEL are unconstitutional, then it’s just open season for reinterpretation of all laws. Hell, as a gay man, I’m still trying to obtain the rights afforded me under the Constitution.
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
February 12th, 2013
1:25 pm
Good Fight:
I’m waiting ……………………. LOL !
stands for decibels
February 12th, 2013
1:25 pm
O is going to call for more of these ahem “investments” in education, infrastructure, and various other spending, um, “investment” programs.
Yeah, that’d be some cray-cray sh-t. So much better to go on trying to slay an imaginary Deficit Dragon, and regarding an unemployment rate of 7.8% as the new normal.
Thulsa Doom the psychic
February 12th, 2013
1:26 pm
“He’s not aware of much of anything that Rush and Fox don’t program him to spew.”
Yep! I called it on the Rush and Foxbot crap 3 hours ago! Either I really am psychic or the kooks have just gotten wayyyy too damn predictable.
Itchy Finger
February 12th, 2013
1:26 pm
I wonder if ole Al pooped his pants during obama’s parade????
http://nation.foxnews.com/obama-inauguration/2013/01/22/nbcs-al-roker-yells-groupie-obama-and-biden-during-inaugural-parade
bman.
February 12th, 2013
1:27 pm
“the stupid party” rocks on
I admit it…that’s a funny title!
Keep Up the Good Fight!
February 12th, 2013
1:27 pm
Nope Senior Digits. Your 1:20 proves your 1:09 buffoonery. You can’t even keep up with your own stupidity today. It’s your typical assenisity. You really should consider protection when you are kissing the butts of the other conned on this blog.
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
February 12th, 2013
1:27 pm
Native Atlantan:
You mean like when the Obama Administration tells sheriffs and other law enforcement not to enforce certain immigration law ???
That KIND of reinterpretation of all laws ???
GEEZ !
Erwin's cat
February 12th, 2013
1:27 pm
Native – Hell, as a gay man, I’m still trying to obtain the rights afforded me under the Constitution.
and what specific constitutional rights are being withheld from you?…a serious question
Thulsa Doom the psychic
February 12th, 2013
1:27 pm
Scout,
Now THAT was a blogsmack. I think kreep has butthurt over that one.
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
February 12th, 2013
1:27 pm
Good Fight:
LOL !!!
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
February 12th, 2013
1:28 pm
Thulsa:
HA !
Buzz Belle
February 12th, 2013
1:28 pm
“The sheriffs took an oath to support the Constitution and will stand by the 2nd Amendment. The sheriffs will aggressively oppose federal or state legislation which infringes upon law abiding citizens’ right to bear arms.
I have stated before and I will state again – This is NOT about the 2nd amendment. We have the right to bear arms – just not the kind that are used for war. The particular weapons used in these mass murders are those that are only used to shoot as many bullets as possible in as short of time as possible. Just imagine, the idiot going into the school with a weapon he had to reload after a few bullets were fired. How many children would have been saved then? Just imagine.
How many people in a theatre would have been saved if the shooter had to reload. Just imagine.
Why can’t we have a logical conversation about the types of weapons vs. the 2nd amendment. There is a reason you cannot own a grenade launcher. Think people.
Fred ™
February 12th, 2013
1:29 pm
OFF TOPIC: Hey Moonbat Betty. I got an invite in my youtube to listen/subscribe to this band. Have you ever heard of them? I did something that get me invites from a lot of new bands. I don;t know what, but I don’t mind. Some are good some suck, but it’s cool to hear them. I tell the good ones they are good and then ignore the bad ones (I mean they are trying right?) These guys are a little more Heavy Metal than I like but I think not for you…..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i-QQYxryAqM
stands for decibels
February 12th, 2013
1:30 pm
What the heck, the wheels have come off the thread anyway. Herewith my gratuitous copy/paste, and it’s kinda/sorta on topic!
The SOTU of our dreams
My fellow Americans, we cannot tackle our nation’s deepest problems until we tackle its biggest current problem. And that problem is that too many men and women who want to work cannot.
When Americans are out of work, they cannot support their families or invest in their futures. Young people move home and struggle under student debt. Older Americans leave the workforce for good, often without health care or adequate savings for retirement. The longer workers are out of a job, the harder it is for them to get back on their feet. And the harder it is for our nation to get back on its feet. When jobs are plentiful, wages rise. When jobs are plentiful, people invest in skills. When jobs are plentiful, the ladder of advancement is scalable. When jobs are plentiful, we are able to honor the sacred commitments we have made to the security and advancement of the American people.
Some say we cannot afford to get Americans back to work. They are wrong. If our economy were running at full speed, we wouldn’t have a budget problem. As the experience of our great ally across the Atlantic, Britain shows, trying to slash the budget now will only make the jobs problem — and our budget challenges — worse. We know this, experience has shown it. The United States has recovered more quickly than Europe because we have understood that the budget isn’t just a line of numbers. It is a set of priorities, for today and for the future. And our top priority must be getting Americans back to work.
That is why I am calling on Congress to spur job creation through large-scale investment in our nation’s productive capacity. This is not just about helping those who are struggling; it is about our future, our children’s future, our planet’s future. In a global knowledge economy, we need more than ever to bolster our competitive standing. We need to invest in roads and bridges, in broadband available to all, in our elementary and high schools and community colleges. We need to invest in clean energy and green technology to head off the threat of global warming. And we need to step up our investments in research and development and science — to provide the seed corn for the next entrepreneurial harvest.
The road back from the crisis that Wall Street helped create is a long one. And yes, we are moving down that road at last. Last year, our economy added over 2 million jobs. But we must speed up our pace. At the current rate of job creation, it will be almost a decade before we return to the employment levels that prevailed before the crisis.
We cannot wait that long.
Thulsa Doom the psychic
February 12th, 2013
1:31 pm
“So much better to go on trying to slay an imaginary Deficit Dragon”
Because the 16 trillion dollar debt is imaginary.
“…and regarding an unemployment rate of 7.8% as the new normal.”
And because stimulus worked during the 1930s, or in Greece, or in Japan, and on and on and on. Too funny.
BuckeyeInGa
February 12th, 2013
1:32 pm
BuckeyeInGa
He wasn’t charged. That doesn’t mean my statement is incorrect. Why did the SS visit him?
Nugent made a threat towards the sitting President of the United States yet was invited to the State of the Union address..sad and the Republicans didn’t learn a thing from Nov 2012.
This is what you said. If he truly did do this shouldn’t he be charged with a crime. Last I checked he wasn’t. Just admit the only reason you try and denigrate someone like Ted Nugent is because he speaks the truth about your failed President…
LOLOL just admit it lol..You’re being an apologist for Nugent..rant and rave about “Your failed President” but still can’t figure out how or why he won reelection despite what you said. You still didn’t answer why would the SS talked with him….. they talked to him..realized he’s full of hot air..he didn’t get arrested..
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
February 12th, 2013
1:32 pm
Tulsa:
Got to run ………. take the point !
Fred ™
February 12th, 2013
1:33 pm
Yep! I called it on the Rush and Foxbot crap 3 hours ago! Either I really am psychic or the kooks have just gotten wayyyy too damn predictable.
Calling the sun the sun doesn’t mean the sun is the moon silly. Try speaking something that ISN’T a FOXBOT Rush talking point. Translated, try speaking with your own thoughts. Oh wait, you’ve been told for so long what to say and think you have no original thoughts. Well except thoughts of speedo’s………..
Paul
February 12th, 2013
1:33 pm
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““If they bring a knife to the fight, we bring a gun,” Obama told the audience. “Because from what I understand folks in Philly like a good brawl. I’ve seen Eagles fans.”
Barack Hussein Obama”
“Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword.”
Jesus
Native Atlantan
February 12th, 2013
1:33 pm
so Digits…..the POTUS and DOJ seem to be a bit higher ranking than some locally elected Sheriffs. You seem in favor of the inmates running the asylum.
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
February 12th, 2013
1:35 pm
Oh wait, you’ve been told for so long what to say and think you have no original thoughts. Well except thoughts of speedo’s………..
GT
February 12th, 2013
1:35 pm
I am told they are afraid of class warfare, on the phone this morning with a man from California looking to sell his yacht and head underground to a bunker and live. 68 year old millionaire who does not fear overseas invasion, but domestic uprising, stirred up by listening to brain dead pundits.
They may shake you up a little till you understand you share this country with other people than yourselves, but no one wants any less than what you have and class warfare is not the way to move to Buckhead. Better time could and will be spent stopping the heavy weight corruption on Wall Street, unload the loaded dice they are playing with and let the best play the game not the most convenient or the club. Let em win or get out of the way, stop sustaining a non competitive way of life.
Keep Up the Good Fight!
February 12th, 2013
1:36 pm
Got to run ………. take the point !
Lame efforts to coordinate scumminess, stupidity and buffoonery. How silly and childish.
Fred ™
February 12th, 2013
1:36 pm
or in Greece
Here is a perfect example of your foxbot/rushie talk points. Greece has been a third world Country for MORE THAN 2000 YEARS.
Yet Fox and Rush want to make is seem like their circumstances are equal to the largest economy in the world. Only total f’ing idiot without a shred of self respect or free thought would repeat that stupid crap……. or Foxbots…….. or you…………. oh wait I’m being redundant.
Thulsa Doom the psychic
February 12th, 2013
1:37 pm
Scout,
My latest prediction!- You’re going to be waiting a long time for a cogent response to your blogsmack of a question directed to kreep. My other prediction!- rather than a logical response you’ll get some gobbledeegook, some blustery about butt kissing, some namecalling about buffoonery and such, some deflection, etc., but no answer to your question.
moonbat betty
February 12th, 2013
1:37 pm
Fred, I think they had one song back in the 80’s, but that’s the first I have heard of them since.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eSMZkF8JDuk
Road Scholar
February 12th, 2013
1:38 pm
I wonder if John McCain will sit next to Nugent?
Nugent said that he didn’t bathe and crapped in his pants. He forgot to clean out the area between his ears!
Looney Bin
February 12th, 2013
1:38 pm
After reading much of the commentary from our right leaning posters I am left to believe (hope?) that the majority of them fancy themselves as some internet satirist, along the lines of our R Convert. The fact they don’t possess the same insight and wit is what causes one to think they are simply crazy and irrational.
Butch Cassidy (I)
February 12th, 2013
1:38 pm
I absolutely agree with the decision to bring Ted to the SOTU address. In fact, I think now is the time for a Ted Nugent Presidential run. Nothing would convey “we’ve changed” more strongly than Ted Nugent running on the Republican ticket.
Thulsa Doom bookmaker
February 12th, 2013
1:39 pm
“Here is a perfect example of your foxbot/rushie talk points”
What did I put the over/under on regarding the Foxbot/Rushbot nonsense? 5??? We’re at least 40% of the way there. The over is looking good early.
Paul
February 12th, 2013
1:39 pm
Keep Up
If it works for him, that’s fine, but to me it’s kinda sad, decades’ worth of living and the high point if identity is a couple years’ when he was fresh out of high school. Kinda the same principle as guys around here saying “back when I played high school football” and using football jargon in their conversation. But hey, like I said, whatever gets you thru the day.
Keep Up the Good Fight!
February 12th, 2013
1:39 pm
Poor scummy doom just begging for attention.
Erwin's cat
February 12th, 2013
1:40 pm
Fred – Greece has been a third world Country for MORE THAN 2000 YEARS.
I don’t think “third world country” means what you think it means
Fred ™
February 12th, 2013
1:41 pm
Oh and Please Mr. Economist Thulsa, please explain how the economy of Japan is similar to the US? You forgot to mention Ireland, the FORMER darling of you Foxbots and talk radio and their wonderful no taxes for Corporations. Remind me again how that worked out for them and why Rushie and Fox don’t talk about them?
I’ll go pop some popcorn while I wait for a lucid reply to those questions……. hell I’ll live the rest of my life waiting for a lucid reply from YOU on those questions that involves the words, they don’t apply to the US and it was incredibly stupid to compare Greece or Japan to the US economic model………… and FOX and drugged up Rushie were WRONG about the effects of zero corporate taxes………
Thulsa Doom
February 12th, 2013
1:41 pm
“The fact they don’t possess the same insight….”
Pencilneck convert has insight? Who knew?
stands for decibels
February 12th, 2013
1:43 pm
they don’t possess the same insight and wit
Nowheres near. Nope.
JamVet
February 12th, 2013
1:43 pm
Really, Jindal has warned you – STOP being stupid, insulting and backwards.
But personally, I think that is terrible advice and ask that you never change.
Given the results of November 6, it is working out great…
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
February 12th, 2013
1:44 pm
Yeah, just sitting back trying to recapture
a little of the glory of, well time slips away
and leaves you with nothing mister but
boring stories of glory days
Keep Up the Good Fight!
February 12th, 2013
1:44 pm
Paul, yep. I guess trying to hang on to “glory days” rather than attempt to deal with the reality of the world is an issue. It does seem sadder each day that these right wingnuts have no better arguments than the ones that have been rejected and disproven day after day. It’s really a sad state. As you and I noted yesterday, none of them who spout the “weak leader” Obama dared to even address the beliefs of a Seal who saw strength in the President.
ATL Tiger
February 12th, 2013
1:44 pm
Watching the SOTUA tonight is equivalent to singing Motley Crue’s “Shout at the devil” to a wall
No thanks, not worth it.
Fred ™
February 12th, 2013
1:44 pm
I don’t think “third world country” means what you think it means
I think it DOES. But thank you for attempted mind control. You aren’t a Jedi and i’m not a storm trooper. Remind me exactly how Greece was the last time you were there. I saw little difference between them and other third world countries. They aren’t as bad a s what are not called “the least developed countries” but pretty damn bad. They certainly haven’t been anything NEAR an economic OR intellectual OR military power in over 2000 years.
But thanks for playing. I hear there is a concert at the parthenon tonight………….. maybe you can play there……..
stands for decibels
February 12th, 2013
1:45 pm
In fact, I think now is the time for a Ted Nugent Presidential run.
Some crazy dude calling himself “DB, Gwinnettian” said as much almost exactly four years ago.
moonbat betty
February 12th, 2013
1:46 pm
Fred, off topic, but your 1:41 brings up a good point about socialized medicine…
Can we compare the US to Canada or other European countries on how socialized medicine will work in the United States?
CC
February 12th, 2013
1:46 pm
moonbat betty@11:02 am:
I was too late . . . the Obama censors have already gotten it yanked!
Thulsa Doom
February 12th, 2013
1:46 pm
“Oh and Please Mr. Economist Thulsa, please explain how the economy of Japan is similar to the US?”
Well for one silly they’re both capitalist nations- or at least were at one time.
And for another Japan tried stimulus many times during their lost decade and similar to us right now had essentially flat growth with nothing but new debt to show for it. And their still doing it- and still failing at it. Educate yourself Fred. I don’t have time to tutor you all day.
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-01-16/abe-stimulus-risks-fizzling-as-citigroup-sees-japan-job-deficit.html
NOBODYYOUKNOW
February 12th, 2013
1:48 pm
You’ve got be kidding Jay, You have not seen any Democrat critizing any of the buffons that endorse those policies they push. Al Sharpton, the hypocrites in Hollywood, and many more.I am too old to keep up with all the nut cases on both sides, and the stupid comments politicans make. Yea, I know you are refering to him being invited to speak at that “CON” get together. I’m no big fan of Nugent, And I know Bill M. has yet to be invited to speak at a Democrat gathering but would it really surprise you if he was? Jay, you completely ignore the many goof-ups the Dems say and do. Obama was going to close Guamt. prison. The trillion dollar deficit was irresponsible, and was bad for the country, and on and on. The Cuban prison is still going. The deficit has been growing every since O bama took office. By MILLIONS every day. Jay, your proctologist called, He’s found your head.
Paul
February 12th, 2013
1:48 pm
moonbat betty
You might want to take a look at Switzerland as a closer example to what we’re developing. Wiki has a decent page on it.
Fred ™
February 12th, 2013
1:49 pm
Moonbat: Thanks. I KNEW they sounded familiar. I haven’t heard that song for ages. Well I’m off to try to get the right part to fix the washer from hell. Talk about a job gone wrong…….
moonbat betty
February 12th, 2013
1:51 pm
Paul, @1:48:
Do you think it’s safe to say that their system will work here as it does there?
Erwin's cat
February 12th, 2013
1:52 pm
Remind me exactly how Greece was the last time you were there
It was a pleasant stay….nice people, decent food etc….you?
It was a Jedi mind control convention, so I didn’t have time to sight see
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
February 12th, 2013
1:52 pm
Did someone say “deficit”?
Which brings us to the economic level. The deficits that Bush ran up in the years in which the country was teetering on the verge of a serious recession had the beneficial effect of righting the economy. In that sense, deficits not only didn’t matter, but were a force for economic good.
Translation: IOKIYAR
moonbat betty
February 12th, 2013
1:58 pm
Oh, and Kamchak, I want to apologize for calling you a slob last night.
That wasn’t nice and I shouldn’t have done so.
Paul
February 12th, 2013
1:58 pm
I think there’d be a decent chance. In the future. We’d hear outcries of throttling business profits and too much regulation. Plus there’d be the problem (overlooked by many who cite truly socialized models) that nearly everyone – no matter the income level, pays, oftentimes with little or no subsidies. But as far as really fitting the situation we have here it sounds a better fit than most of the other proposals I’ve heard.
Itchy Finger
February 12th, 2013
1:58 pm
BuckeyeInGa
LOLOL just admit it lol..You’re being an apologist for Nugent..rant and rave about “Your failed President” but still can’t figure out how or why he won reelection despite what you said. You still didn’t answer why would the SS talked with him….. they talked to him..realized he’s full of hot air..he didn’t get arrested..
Why would I need to apologize for Nugent. he did nothing wrong obviously. He wasn’t charged with a crime not was he sport? About obama’s re-election. I know hy he won. To many takers and not enough makers… Its simple logic really….
Fred ™
February 12th, 2013
2:00 pm
Well for one silly they’re both capitalist nations- or at least were at one time.
Nope, not really. You see Thulsa, despite your blustering you are really ignorant on the subject. Japan was controlled by their businesses. The Gov’t propped up many of them, not unlike the way France does, with Airbus. They enacted anti competition laws so that foreign goods were not allowed to compete with domestic goods. It’s more complex than that but you have shown you know so little that I don’t want to overwhelm you.
And for another Japan tried stimulus many times during their lost decade and similar to us right now had essentially flat growth with nothing but new debt to show for it. And their still doing it- and still failing at it. Educate yourself Fred. I don’t have time to tutor you all day.
No they didn’t. The whole economic model of Japan was based upon the price per square foot of property in Tokyo. It was a false model and over inflated. It was a house of cards and everyone there pretended that the emperor infact DID have clothes (literary reference, get someone to explain it to you, I don;t know small enough words to get through to you). As to educating ME? Other than showing me that stupidity is boundless, there is very little you can educate me on. You know very little yet speak very much. You were obviously never taught that it is better for people to THINK you are a fool than to open your mouth and erase all doubt.
Now give me a
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and then declare victory. It’s the least embarrassing way for you to slither off……..
alittlecommonsense
February 12th, 2013
2:00 pm
“You might want to take a look at Switzerland as a closer example to what we’re developing. ”
You are so right. Switzerland does have a much higher gun ownership and a lower crime rate than the U.S. They have excellent gun laws that we could emulate!
From the Wikipedia page you wanted us to look at -
In some 2001 statistics, it is noted that there are about 420,000 assault rifles (fully automatic, or “selective fire”) stored at private homes, mostly SIG SG 550 models. Additionally, there are some 320,000 semi-auto rifles and military pistols exempted from military service in private possession, all selective-fire weapons having been converted to semi-automatic operation only. In addition, there are several hundred thousand other semi-automatic small arms classified as carbines. The total number of firearms in private homes is estimated minimally at 1.2 million to 3 million
Government statistics for the year 2010[15] records 40 homicides involving firearms, out of the 53 cases of homicide in 2010.
concerned citizen
February 12th, 2013
2:01 pm
Wow, what an intellectual giant! Send in the clowns.
JamVet
February 12th, 2013
2:01 pm
That silence doesn’t mean that Republican leaders necessarily endorse Stockman’s move or Nugent’s antics. However, it does mean that they lack the political courage and judgment to confront those destructive elements in their own party and to try to distance themselves from it. As a result, their political fortunes will continue to suffer.
Word.
Too many flushees (Akin, Mourdouch, Allen, West, Walsh and Romney) and not enough flushers.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eeiDM1H_Y-w
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
February 12th, 2013
2:01 pm
moonbat betty
A gracious apology — accepted
Thulsa Doom
February 12th, 2013
2:02 pm
If Fred had a freaking clue as to what the hell he was talking about he would understand the different definitions of first, second, and third world status and understand that Greece fits the traditional definition of the first world. He would also know that membership in the EU also is considered to be first world status. Don’t let your Foxbot Rushbot blather get in the way of the facts Fred.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_World
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Itchy Finger
February 12th, 2013
2:02 pm
JamVet
Really, Jindal has warned you – STOP being stupid, insulting and backwards.
But personally, I think that is terrible advice and ask that you never change.
Given the results of November 6, it is working out great…
If you look at the big picture it worked out great for Republicans. They easily kept the house and gained in Governorship’s and state Congressional offices… You may want to research that some before making a stupid comment…..
Fred ™
February 12th, 2013
2:03 pm
Oh, and Kamchak, I want to apologize for calling you a slob last night.
That wasn’t nice and I shouldn’t have done so.
I read that. Slob wasn’t the right word lol, but his comment WAS a little bit in poor taste…….. and given some of the things I have typed I know poor taste lol. Bu that one made even me go…….
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=95SYdjRVCR0&list=PL7B626D544F671E2C
Kamchak - You cons said Elmer Fudd could defeat Obama, so why didn't you nominate him?
February 12th, 2013
2:04 pm
I know hy[sic] he won. To[sic] many takers and not enough makers… Its simple logic really….
No, Obama won because you cons couldn’t come up with anyone better than Romney.
Fred ™
February 12th, 2013
2:04 pm
alittlecommonsense
February 12th, 2013
2:00 pm
“You might want to take a look at Switzerland as a closer example to what we’re developing. ”
You are so right. Switzerland does have a much higher gun ownership and a lower crime rate than the U.S. They have excellent gun laws that we could emulate!
From the Wikipedia page you wanted us to look at -
In some 2001 statistics, it is noted that there are about 420,000 assault rifles (fully automatic, or “selective fire”) stored at private homes, mostly SIG SG 550 models. Additionally, there are some 320,000 semi-auto rifles and military pistols exempted from military service in private possession, all selective-fire weapons having been converted to semi-automatic operation only. In addition, there are several hundred thousand other semi-automatic small arms classified as carbines. The total number of firearms in private homes is estimated minimally at 1.2 million to 3 million
Government statistics for the year 2010[15] records 40 homicides involving firearms, out of the 53 cases of homicide in 2010.
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Who has the bullets?
Buzz Belle
February 12th, 2013
2:04 pm
Oh, let me just say “JamVet, it is so good to see you again! Some of us have missed you greatly!”
Now, carry on.
alex
February 12th, 2013
2:04 pm
Jay, why not discuss the real purpose of tonight: the state of the union…….Personally, I could not care whose in the audience, that is symbolic, tonight I would like to hear some real plans for the economy, foreign affairs, infrastructure, etc. Sideshows are for circuses, then again this is Washington, D.C. !!
Paul
February 12th, 2013
2:06 pm
alittlecommonsense
“You are so right. Switzerland does have a much higher gun ownership and a lower crime rate than the U.S. They have excellent gun laws that we could emulate!”
Swiss gun laws are tied to their military system. No way is this country every going to reduce its defense establishment by about 90 percent, draft nearly everyone with a lifetime reserve commitment and let other countries take care of their own defense,
moonbat betty
February 12th, 2013
2:06 pm
Thanks, Paul @ 1:58 and Kam @ 2:01
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
February 12th, 2013
2:07 pm
Jay, why not discuss the real purpose of tonight
blogspot.com — try it, you’ll like it.
indigo
February 12th, 2013
2:07 pm
Scout – 1:24 “elected individuals represent the people who elect them”
Elected Republicans represent their Big Business sponsors.
But then, you know that.
Regnad Kcin
February 12th, 2013
2:07 pm
This entire issue seems like a big nothing.
I suspect, when we look back on this season a few months from now, we will note that this was when the Republicans started moving away from crazy.
It will be a slow process, with some early adopters (Jindal, Christie), and some who may never change (Stockman, et al). But overall, I think the recent election has shown the Republicans that they can move back towards the political center, or double-down on crazy (which hasn’t worked out so well for them, electorally speaking).
Erwin's cat
February 12th, 2013
2:07 pm
….and 2000 yrs ago wasn’t Greece considered the cradle of western civilization, birthplace of democracy, Western philosophy, the Olympic Games, Western literature and historiography, political science, major scientific and mathematical principles, and Western drama, including both tragedy and comedy?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greece
Fred ™
February 12th, 2013
2:09 pm
Swiss gun laws are tied to their military system. No way is this country every going to reduce its defense establishment by about 90 percent, draft nearly everyone with a lifetime reserve commitment and let other countries take care of their own defense,
Hush Paul. They don’t want facts. They want Rushie/FOXBOT soundbites like our economy is Greece and Japan.
What you say is obviously a liberal main stream media lie because fox and rush say differently………
How sad their lives must be, being so stupid and gullible. No WONDER they worship a 4 times divorced, drug addict.
JamVet
February 12th, 2013
2:11 pm
So the desperate celebrate the fact that the GOP got absolutely crushed by pointing out that they won the time of possession stat for the first two minutes of the third quarter!
Woo Hoo!
Don’t change a thing, makers! And keep up those winning ways!
Thulsa Doom
February 12th, 2013
2:12 pm
Sorry Fred but you won’t find many credible economists that consider Japan to be other than a capitalist nation. That definition I use loosely because true capitalism on this planet hasn’t really been practiced for 100 years ago. What the hell do you think Japan is classified as? Socialist? Puh-leaze. Cease and desist from the silliness before I really lay a hurting on you.
“No they didn’t. The whole economic model of Japan was based upon the price per square foot of property in Tokyo. It was a false model and over inflated. It was a house of cards and everyone there pretended that the emperor infact DID have clothes”
Jeez Fred. Just when I didn’t think you could sound any dumber than when you claimed to have the photographic memory. Sheesh. Let me help you out you waste of oxygen. The real estate bubble is what collapsed the Japanese economy. Sir Templeton saw this coming back in the early 90s. The obscene price of Japanese real estate was at stratospheric levels and wayyyy overpriced. Did your little noggin actually think you could educate me on this matter??? Jeez.
We’re not talking about what caused the Japanese economic collapse dum dum. We’re talking about the failed efforts and failed stimulus to help the economic recover from the collapse. Its 2 different things dum dum. You’re just too damn stupid to discern the effing difference. God help us from roving mindless idiots like yourself. Go back to memorizing the complete high school reading list word for word of hundreds of books you peanut headed ensemble of nature’s carelessness. What a blithering idiot!
TaxPayer
February 12th, 2013
2:12 pm
I see that no Republican bloggers have challenged the “stupid party” label.
JamVet
February 12th, 2013
2:14 pm
Thanks, Belle.
My lib and prog friends rock. (And not the cr@ppy Nugent kind!)
The country’s theme song since the end of the Bush reign…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rp6-wG5LLqE
moonbat betty
February 12th, 2013
2:14 pm
I know the libs are still basking in their “land slide” victory, but I can guarandamntee you, it’s going to be a lot closer in ‘16.
Itchy Finger
February 12th, 2013
2:15 pm
TaxPayer
I see that no Republican bloggers have challenged the “stupid party” label.
Whats to challenge? Jindal can say what he wants. When the alternative has loons like like obama, pelosi, and reid there’s really no comparison..
Paul
February 12th, 2013
2:15 pm
“Jay, why not discuss the real purpose of tonight”
Because having a topic of “fulfilling the requirements of Article 2, Section 3 of the Constitution” would probably be a pretty short thread.
Fred ™
February 12th, 2013
2:16 pm
Erwin’s cat
February 12th, 2013
2:07 pm
….and 2000 yrs ago wasn’t Greece considered the cradle of western civilization, birthplace of democracy, Western philosophy, the Olympic Games, Western literature and historiography, political science, major scientific and mathematical principles, and Western drama, including both tragedy and comedy?
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Yeah. and your point? (actually more than 200 years ago). 2000 Years ago we wouldn’t be debating about Jesus, we could go to the mountains and see for ourselves. 2000 years ago leading military hardware was a sword and a spear. Refrigeration was unheard of. Horsepower really WAS a horse.
What the hell is your point? 2000+ years ago is a long damn time ago chief. 4000 years ago Egypt was the cradle of knowledge and power………. boy howdy aren’t THEY rocking the free world now with their leadership, culture, and innovations…………
The stretches you folks make, especially when you have decided to defend some worthless dumbass hill with your life……… I remember now, took less than an hour, why I decided not to frequent this time suck. Intelligent conversation is rare here……..
getalife
February 12th, 2013
2:17 pm
Fred,
For josef:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L9ndJUCoFJc
moonbat betty
February 12th, 2013
2:17 pm
Obama’s theme song:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fm71Khu5-Lk
TaxPayer
February 12th, 2013
2:18 pm
Whats to challenge?
A sincere reply from itchy.
Itchy Finger
February 12th, 2013
2:18 pm
Kamchak – You cons said Elmer Fudd could defeat Obama, so why didn’t you nominate him?
I know hy[sic] he won. To[sic] many takers and not enough makers… Its simple logic really….
No, Obama won because you cons couldn’t come up with anyone better than Romney.
I would agree with that… But I agree with my previous statement more…. Romney was the media’s pick and unfortunately many primary voters went along with the narrative. When Rubio and Christie run in 16′ they’ll have no say so….
Kamchak - You cons said Elmer Fudd could defeat Obama, so why didn't you nominate him?
February 12th, 2013
2:19 pm
When the alternative has loons like like obama…
Mitt Romney says, “What?”
TaxPayer
February 12th, 2013
2:19 pm
I know the libs are still basking in their “land slide” victory, but I can guarandamntee you, it’s going to be a lot closer in ‘16.
Oh pleeze! Let it be Paul Broun.
Fred ™
February 12th, 2013
2:20 pm
Sorry Fred but you won’t find many credible economists that consider Japan to be other than a capitalist nation. That definition I use loosely because true capitalism on this planet hasn’t really been practiced for 100 years ago. What the hell do you think Japan is classified as? Socialist? Puh-leaze. Cease and desist from the silliness before I really lay a hurting on you.
“No they didn’t. The whole economic model of Japan was based upon the price per square foot of property in Tokyo. It was a false model and over inflated. It was a house of cards and everyone there pretended that the emperor infact DID have clothes”
Jeez Fred. Just when I didn’t think you could sound any dumber than when you claimed to have the photographic memory. Sheesh. Let me help you out you waste of oxygen. The real estate bubble is what collapsed the Japanese economy. Sir Templeton saw this coming back in the early 90s. The obscene price of Japanese real estate was at stratospheric levels and wayyyy overpriced. Did your little noggin actually think you could educate me on this matter??? Jeez.
We’re not talking about what caused the Japanese economic collapse dum dum. We’re talking about the failed efforts and failed stimulus to help the economic recover from the collapse. Its 2 different things dum dum. You’re just too damn stupid to discern the effing difference. God help us from roving mindless idiots like yourself. Go back to memorizing the complete high school reading list word for word of hundreds of books you peanut headed ensemble of nature’s carelessness. What a blithering idiot
Four paragraphs of absolutely nothing. In the third one he actually agrees with me, tells me I’m right, and then tells me I’m dumb, and tells me I don’t know what I’m talking about. (although their economy collapsed in the 80’s not the 90’s but don’t tell Doomy that. He’ll have a melt down and start talking about his speedo again).
THIS is what I get for engaging a dumb ass. My fault.
Kamchak - You cons said Elmer Fudd could defeat Obama, so why didn't you nominate him?
February 12th, 2013
2:20 pm
Romney was the media’s pick…
And there’s your sign.
Erwin's cat
February 12th, 2013
2:21 pm
Fred – What the hell is your point? 2000+ years ago is a long damn time ago chief.
That your assertion that Greece has been a third world country for 2000 years is not only wrong, it’s stupid!
the dog
February 12th, 2013
2:22 pm
Thulsa with the name calling, losing the arguement. I mean we know he drinks and is as sorry an individual as they come but lately it has gotten worse and over the top.
getalife
February 12th, 2013
2:22 pm
moonbat:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wdqo9aO0fyo
Keep Up the Good Fight!
February 12th, 2013
2:22 pm
God help us from roving mindless idiots like yourself. Go back to memorizing the complete high school reading list word for word of hundreds of books you peanut headed ensemble of nature’s carelessness. What a blithering idiot!
Poor Scummydoom. He’s been begging for attention for all his buffoonery all day and when he get it, he gets confused and copies and pastes all the fears about himself that one of his sad multiple personalities calls him. His psychotherapy has been set back years.
Redcoat
February 12th, 2013
2:22 pm
Ted Nugent rants…. never heard similar or worse from the left…….? on this blog?
Destructive elements?…….what happened to the left’s….? silence……..
Obama SOU address……more of the same…..will sound nice, but we all know the routine by now….
Scooter
February 12th, 2013
2:24 pm
How about Michelle Obama inviting the rapper named Common to poetry night at the White House? He attended the gathering but had sang lyrics about killing President George W. Bush. Got Blinders, it wasn’t that long ago.
Fred ™
February 12th, 2013
2:25 pm
That your assertion that Greece has been a third world country for 2000 years is not only wrong, it’s stupid!
Really? When Rome crushed them they did a good damn job. Please tell me what Greece hads contributed to the world in the last 2000 years. And don’t give me the crap they did BEFORE that.
Give me something. I may have missed something. I know they export olive oil, yak dung, and a crap load of Greek Immigrants to the US, but what USEFUL have they done.
I’ll wait.
Joel
February 12th, 2013
2:26 pm
Your point is not well taken because of the hypocrisy of the left and that includes you. I never heard you condemn any left wing person criticize George Bush during the years he was president. Take Benghazi as an example. No demands from the Democrats or the left to get to the truth on what happened and why we were not prepared to deal with it. The Administration thought the American public were stupid enough to swallow the line that “it was just a protest.” Not everyone in the country drinks the kool aid that this administration pours out on a daily basis. You could broaden your perspective if you quit drinking it on a daily basis.
moonbat betty
February 12th, 2013
2:26 pm
Doom,
As Cousin Eddie said about Mississippi leg hounds, “word of warning, if he lays into you, it’s just better to let him finish”