Olympics panel body-slams its own long tradition

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This is considered an Olympic sport...

In rhythmic gymnastics, young women in leotards bounce across the floor waving colorful banners and other props.

This is considered an Olympic sport.

Synchronized diving, in which two people try to master the feat of jumping off a platform at the same time and then landing in the water at the same time, is also deemed worthy of Olympic recognition. So is synchronized swimming, also known as dancing while not drowning, which can be performed in the solo, duet and eight-member team categories. (Question: In the solo event, with whom does one “synchronize”?)

Olympic medals are also awarded to those who have perfected the combination of shooting a pistol, swimming, running, jumping a horse over a series of fences and of course, fencing. For some reason they call this “the modern pentathlon,” a description that was last true around the time that Aaron Burr shot Alexander Hamilton to narrowly take home the gold.

(A truly modern pentathlon would require contestants to text-message your significant other while driving 80 mph down I-85 at rush hour, drinking a hot cup of coffee and checking your hair in the mirror while singing to the song on the radio. If we could get recognition of THAT modern pentathlon, Atlanta would become the home of champions.)

This is also an Olympic sport

This is also an Olympic sport

And then, of course, there is equestrian dressage, a grueling sport in which competitors don top hats and tuxedoes and then ride horses as they prance skittishly through a field, trying not to get their feet muddy. At least that’s what it looks like on television. Olympic medals are awarded in both the individual and team categories of equestrian dressage, with hopes that in future years the categories will be expanded to include synchronized horse swimming.

As of the 2020 Olympics, all of the above will still be sports deemed worthy of Olympic gold. But as of Tuesday, wrestling will not. The International Olympic Committee has decided that the sport is no longer worthy of inclusion in its Games. “This is a process of renewing and renovating the program for the Olympics,” IOC spokesman Mark Adams said. “In the view of the executive board, this was the best program for the Olympic Games in 2020.”

It’s a bizarre decision, representing an abandonment of tradition and mission. This is a sport that traces its Olympic pedigree back to the Greek games of 700 B.C., a sport depicted on Egyptian burial murals of 4,500 years ago, and on Sumerian cave drawings from 7,000 years ago. It figures in ancient Greek mythology, in Norse mythology. In the Book of Genesis, God wrestles with Jacob as a test of Jacob’s will.

I should confess here to a bias: I was a high school wrestler. At six feet tall and a burly, powerful (read: very skinny) 132 pounds, I was no more an Olympic-caliber wrestler than I was an Olympic-caliber rhythmic gymnast. But it didn’t matter. Little guys competed against little guys; big guys against big guys, and I loved it. Many years later, I still miss the unique aroma of a mat-covered, sweat-scented wrestling room.

This, however, is not an Olympic-quality sport.

This, however, is not an Olympic-quality sport.

Yes, the sport is primitive, in a way that rhythmic gymnastics and equestrian dressage are not. But it requires no equipment, and there is no athletic and intellectual competition between human beings more basic than a wrestling match. In fact, Baron Pierre de Coubertin, the founder of the modern Olympics, seemed to have wrestling in mind when he wrote the Olympic credo, which says in part:

“… the most important thing in life is not the triumph but the struggle. The essential thing is not to have conquered but to have fought well.”

Technically, wrestling officials can reapply for Olympic recognition, but they would have to compete with the likes of roller sports, sport climbing, squash, wakeboarding and wushu, which I’m told is a Chinese martial art with ancient roots all the way back to 1949. Absent some major change, the odds of reinstatement for wrestling are considered dim.

Maybe wrestling officials should propose going old school, with competitors wearing nothing more than a thong and olive oil. That approach has seemed to work wonders for the popularity of beach volleyball.

– Jay Bookman

236 comments Add your comment

stands for decibels

February 12th, 2013
3:09 pm

It’s a bizarre decision, representing an abandonment of tradition and mission.

While I doubt a significant percentage of summer Olympic viewers will miss it, I agree.

Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes

February 12th, 2013
3:11 pm

Herbie casts one vote for women’s lingerie basketball.

Corbin Sharpe. I think, therefore I am...I think.

February 12th, 2013
3:11 pm

They took wrestling off the table because pro wrestlers would want to compete like pro basketball player do, and you can imagine how that would go…. :)

Corbin Sharpe. I think, therefore I am...I think.

February 12th, 2013
3:14 pm

…or…maybe they should go back to how the ancient Greeks wrestled…in the nude…

Paul

February 12th, 2013
3:15 pm

Wrestling is the last sport I’d have guessed would be eliminated. Now high schools across America, in an effort to ready their charges for the Olympics, will have to drop wrestling and institute.. what, rythmic gymnastics? With a Title IX-required girls and boys program.

(I was going to add, thanks for a topic that one one in their right mind could possibly find a connection to Benghazi, but then I read my own qualifier…..)

Redneck Convert (R--and proud of it)

February 12th, 2013
3:18 pm

Well, it’s about time they caught up with those crooks. Everybody knows wrestling is fake. I give up on it about 10 years ago when they had a wrestling match up here in Cumming. You’d of thought they hated and wanted to kill each other. I never seen such a to-do. Later I happened to be outside when the wrestlers left. They all got in the same car and was laughing and slapping each other on the back.

Like I said, we got enough fakes in the world. We don’t need them in the Olympics. I got to admit I like to see the ski jumpers in the Winter Olympics, sorta for the same reason I like NASCAR races—sooner or later there’s going to be a big crash. But it won’t spoil my grits if wrestling gets eliminated from the Olympics.

That’s my opinion and it’s very true. Have a good p.m. everybody.

Doggone/GA

February 12th, 2013
3:19 pm

As much as I love the horse sports, I’ve never understood why they were ever included in the Olympics. And I’m not really fond of the team sports being there either.

Nobama

February 12th, 2013
3:20 pm

So who wants to see two sweaty guys rolling around on the floor groping each other ? Hey Stevie Ray what are you wearing right now ?

Paul

February 12th, 2013
3:21 pm

Corbin

I might just start watching rythmic gymnastics.

They already had me with womens’ beach volleyball.

Hey Kamchak! Topic downhill in only three posts! It’s a new record! You win a gold medal!

Doggone/GA

February 12th, 2013
3:21 pm

“So who wants to see two sweaty guys rolling around on the floor groping each other ?”

Should we add you to the list of people whose on/off switch and channel tuner is broken on their TV?

Lavender Menace

February 12th, 2013
3:22 pm

I wonder if MMA will take its place? It would be nice if baseball and softball were allowed back in to the Olympic games.

Simple Truths

February 12th, 2013
3:22 pm

If the result is entirely dependent on a panel of judges (figure skating, ice dancing, gymnastics, diving), it shouldn’t be an Olympic event, in my opinion.

Whatever

February 12th, 2013
3:23 pm

I thought wrestling was just a way for men to overcompensate for something. Do they issue man-cards for it?

indigo

February 12th, 2013
3:24 pm

That explanation from Mark Adams is no explanation at all.

Jay, do you have any idea what the real agenda is here?

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Whatever

February 12th, 2013
3:25 pm

Dog,

I love that response. Everytime someone says they may not want to watch something then someone else says “What’s wrong with your remote? Turn it off!” I mean that’s so original and witty!

skipper

February 12th, 2013
3:25 pm

Wrestling may have been (per one article I saw) a “sho-nuff” drug fest. Sounds like thay had to draw three vials of drugs before they GOT to any blood……..

Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes

February 12th, 2013
3:25 pm

Paul

Downhill?

Women’s Lingerie Basketball is uplifting!

the dog

February 12th, 2013
3:26 pm

After the massacre at Munich, who cares?

Anton Chigurh

February 12th, 2013
3:26 pm

You were a wrestler. What a shock.

JamVet

February 12th, 2013
3:26 pm

An Olympic travesty.

Might as well ditch track and field and bring in NASCAR…

Simple Truths

February 12th, 2013
3:26 pm

And Jay tries to claim death panels aren’t real!

Jay

February 12th, 2013
3:26 pm

Indigo, I do not.

Kristen S

February 12th, 2013
3:28 pm

I hate to see wrestling go, as it is part of the Olympic tradition. The equestrian events are as well, although I am a bit biased on that one. Rhythmic gymnastic does need to go. Wasn’t it put in at the behest of the old East Bloc back when they could “wag the dog”? Now, it’s something that gets the rating from female viewers

Simple Truths

February 12th, 2013
3:28 pm

JamVet @ 3:26
“Might as well ditch track and field and bring in NASCAR”

Usain Bolt still might win the 100m dash.

stands for decibels

February 12th, 2013
3:29 pm

It would be nice if baseball and softball were allowed back in to the Olympic games.

I would like to see them back, as well. But at least I could understand why they were dropped. It’s a massively expensive thing to host; it’s not all that international, etc.

But wrestling? You’d think it basically happens everywhere on the planet, and it costs next to nothing to stage.

Logical Dude

February 12th, 2013
3:32 pm

I agree Jay. Olympic wrestling goes back to the original Olympic games and should stay.

Although I’d also like to see everybody run track and do field events in the buff, or just wearing a wreath on their heads.

I’m old school that way.

Granny "Impolite" Godzilla

February 12th, 2013
3:33 pm

“Maybe wrestling officials should propose going old school, with competitors wearing nothing more than a thong and olive oil. ”

I find that sorta interesting……

moonbat betty

February 12th, 2013
3:35 pm

“Might as well ditch track and field and bring in NASCAR…”

or they could bring in Fishing.

Oh that would be too cruel!

Bring back croquet instead.

Soothsayer

February 12th, 2013
3:36 pm

Jay, I’m with you on that rhythmic gymnastics. Heck, anybody can do that. In fact, I start out each and every morning with stretch just like that woman in the center of that photo at the top of the page. It’s easy!

Brad Steel

February 12th, 2013
3:36 pm

Question: In the solo event, with whom does one “synchronize”?

The music?

moonbat betty

February 12th, 2013
3:38 pm

LOL

Yeah, I could see someone doing the long jump, triple jump or the pole vault in the buff (ouch!)

JamVet

February 12th, 2013
3:39 pm

Truths, LOL!

Even with the putrid decision to allow Dream Teams and other prima donna professionals (and I understand the reasoning behind it), the Olympic Games is still and easily the most wonderful spectacle in all of human existence.

That they came here and I got to experience hours and hours of it in person is still a dream come true!

I have, over the course of many Summer Games, wept unashamedly at the incredible, unfolding stories and sights of human accomplishment. And failure.

For me, there will never ever be anything to rival them and even this reprehesnible move cannot ruin the Games…

Jaynie

February 12th, 2013
3:39 pm

I hate that wrestling is out. That epitomizes the Olympics to me. I think the rhythmic gymnastics and synchronized swimming are pretty, but I’d rather see them go than wrestling.

Brad Steel

February 12th, 2013
3:40 pm

maybe the greco-roman part was being taken a little to figuratively for your typical blushing conservative prude?

getalife

February 12th, 2013
3:41 pm

alex

February 12th, 2013
3:45 pm

Jay, on this you and I can AGREE, I also was a high school wrestler, 126 lber in senior year, a few awards here and there, but that was the southeast in the 70’s, nothing like Penn. My wrestling coach brought out the very best in me and demanded more, this experience has helped me in life. Currently, I volunteer for local tournaments and have done so for national tournaments as well. This is a travesty. Wrestling is one of the worlds great sports, the kids are respectful, for the most part and work harder than any other sport, BY FAR. I volunteered for the Atlanta olympics and saw how politicised it was, you can read all about “the Olympic Movement” it in “the Broken Rings ” or in D. Maranisses book on the 1960 Summer games….PATHETIC .rythymic garbage…..cradle their butts, figure 4 their heads, bunch of wimps…

td

February 12th, 2013
3:45 pm

Jay,

I also wrestled in High School (119). I totally understand what you are talking about in your article and agree.

josef

February 12th, 2013
3:46 pm

Well, of course I have my opinions about wrestling. I mean it IS GRECO-Roman and, well, Alexander and all that aside, there is decidedly some sport to it.

And IMAM

Have you ever ridden horses, I mean equestrian, not a Sunday in the park? You really gotta know what you’re doing there.

Jay

February 12th, 2013
3:48 pm

I was 132 senior year, Alex. Dropped to 126 for a spell, ended up in the hospital on an IV. Not bright.

Joe Hussein Mama

February 12th, 2013
3:49 pm

FWIW, I attended the Modern Pentathlon events in 1996, and that was a hell of a lot of sports to cram into one day for only $70. As Jay said, it’s swimming, pistol marksmanship, fencing, horseback obstacle course and a 3K footrace, all together.

Now, I don’t care so much for the horsey part of the sport, but I dig the shooty and stabby parts. It’s a total-point event, and in 1996, they staggered the start times in the 3K run so that whoever crossed the finish line first would take the gold medal.

And it was exciting right down to the wire — one of the Russian competitors was leading right at the end, but he stumbled and fell — so the guy from Kazakhstan who was right on his tail jumped over him and sprinted to the finish line. It was Kazakhstan’s first Olympics since the Soviet Union collapsed, and I seem to recall that they didn’t even have a copy of the Kazakh national anthem to play at the medal ceremony.

Don’t diss it until you’ve checked it out. After all, if it was good enough for GEN George Patton — who competed in the 1912 event — it ought to be good enough for everyone else. :)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_S._Patton

JamVet

February 12th, 2013
3:50 pm

I grew up in Kansas and Nebraska, both great wrestling states, and the latter of which counts the Wyoming born, but collegiate champion at NU, Rulon Gardner, who went on to win the Gold in Sydney in 2000.

And was surrounded by the two most accomplished states in all of college wrestling – Oklahoma and Iowa. Between them they have a huge percentage of the greatest wrestlers ever.

Including the mind boggling Cael Sanderson of Iowa State University and the greatest collegiate wrestling career of all time. He was an incredible 159-0, winning four NCAA titles, four Outstanding Wrestler (O.W.) awards, and earning the Dan Hodge Trophy three times. Sanderson’s achievement was so remarkable that Sports Illustrated, which generally pays very little attention to college wrestling, ranked it the second greatest college performance of all time.

And he too won an Olympic Gold Medal; in Athens in 2004.

How awful for the Games that this decision has been made…

Jay

February 12th, 2013
3:51 pm

Josef, I’ve ridden, but not equestrian, not by a long shot. I don’t doubt the skill required, but a competitive sport? The only reason it’s still on the Olympics card is because of the wealth and influence of those who “compete” in it.

Redneck Convert (R--and proud of it)

February 12th, 2013
3:51 pm

Although I’d also like to see everybody run track and do field events in the buff, or just wearing a wreath on their heads.

Hot dang! Now you’re talking! It might even be better than all those pictures of Kate Upton I see everywhere nowadays, even on Fox. Tho I think it’s a shame for them to exploit that girl’s deformities that way. Most of the women I see have all the fleshy parts gather down at their rear end. They’re kinda—oh, I don’t know—I reckon flat-chested is the word. This Upton woman just has it all around her chest area and even a big scarf won’t cover it all.

Anyhow, I’m sorry to get off of the topic like that but I think the guy’s got a great idea. Why, even the church people would be watching so that they could complain later about all the nudity they seen on the screen. I’d say having all the athletes in the buff would draw about eleventy-billion viewers.

td

February 12th, 2013
3:52 pm

Thought you all might find this interesting from Team Georgia Wrestling.

TALKING POINTS ABOUT WRESTLING AND THE OLYMPICS

1) FILA, the international wrestling federation, the U.S. Olympic Committee and USA Wrestling did not expect this announcement. None of these leadership groups anticipated that wrestling was being considered for this.

2) This is a decision by the International Olympic Committee Executive Board. The recommendation is that wrestling not be included as a core sport at the 2020 Olympic Committee. This is not a final decision.

3) The next step is for the IOC Executive Board to recommend a sport for the final spot in the 2020 Olympics. Wrestling will be considered for the position along with seven other sports, which happens in May in St. Petersburg, Russia. Then, the next step is for the entire International Olympic Committee to vote on the final program for the 2020 Olympics, which occurs in September in Buenos Aires, Argentina.

4) This is an opportunity for wrestling to tell its story, not only to the International Olympic Committee leadership but also to the entire world.

5) Wrestling is one of the original sports in the ancient Olympic Games in Greece. Wrestling was also included in the first modern Olympic Games in 1896.

6) Wrestling is one of the most diverse sports in the world, with nearly 200 nations from all continents participating in the sport.

7) Wrestling is an inclusive sport which provides opportunities worldwide, regardless of geography, race, gender or physical characteristics. Anybody can wrestle.

8) Among Olympic sports, wrestling has more variety of nations which win Olympic medals than almost every other sport. Wrestling is popular all around the world, and many nations have successful athletes and programs in the sport.

9) This is a challenge for the entire wrestling community on the world level. USA Wrestling, as the national governing body in the United States, is putting its full energy and resources behind this. We will work with our wrestling brothers and sisters everywhere on earth to maintain our sport on the Olympic program.

10) Wrestlers are known for their work ethic. As a community, we will work tirelessly from this point forward letting the world know about why wrestling is so special. We believe that we have the ability to be successful

11) Be honest. Explain why wrestling is so important to you, and also important to the world. Do not be negative or critical of the IOC. It is our job to make them our supporters and allies moving forward.

12) USA Wrestling’s Executive Committee, Board of Directors, staff and leaders are already involved working on this issue. We will continue to update the wrestling community about what is going on.

alittlecommonsense

February 12th, 2013
3:54 pm

I have never agreed with Jay more (except maybe when he mentioned tall willowy young ladies).

This is clearly the doing of liberal Democrats!

alex

February 12th, 2013
3:57 pm

@ Josef, I’ve jumped horses in competion ,yes you gotta know what you’re doing, but wrestling is much “purer” one against one ,a containing circle,stalling calls, strenght and speed and endurance. Go to the Macon state final this weekend watch the parents and the wrestlers…

Jay , aboout 10 years ago there were 3 deaths at the Division I level in wrestling, the weight loss rules are significantly different now and the competitors are much more healthy. No more nylon suits and laxatives…@JHM, I have nothing against the modern pentathlon, just don’t drop “wrasslin’”

Regnad Kcin

February 12th, 2013
3:58 pm

…and I seem to recall that they didn’t even have a copy of the Kazakh national anthem to play at the medal ceremony.

Is that the one about “potassium”? :)

moonbat betty

February 12th, 2013
4:00 pm

JamVet,

Did you ever see Vision Quest?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uRfeK7jtvq0

The dedication, skill and hard work these guys put in is amazing.

It’s sad to think they will no longer get a chance at the Olympics.

alex

February 12th, 2013
4:01 pm

@Jam, how does anyone consider Sandersons accomplishments second to ANYTHING and now he is coach of the national champ Penn. state team !

josef

February 12th, 2013
4:02 pm

IMAM

I suspected that as a response! My dad’s family are horsey people and I was on horseback before I left the womb. Mama rode every day to “keep in shape.” Folks have a lot of misconceptions about horse people. I’m a decent rider. but I wouldn’t even think of real competition. The control and “union” between beast and man takes a tremendous amount of athletic and mental skill. It’s not a “money” thing. Horses and all that aren’t exactly cheap, but they’re not unafordable either. Also, the horsey set are very charitable when it comes to making riding accessible to those, especially children, whose means or situation does not permit them to own one of their own.

Jay

February 12th, 2013
4:02 pm

Vision Quest?

The wrestling was the second best thing about that movie.

Simple Truths

February 12th, 2013
4:03 pm

Be careful about claiming the traditional/old school high ground. Women were not allowed in the original Olympics.

DownInAlbany

February 12th, 2013
4:04 pm

Ted Nugent, now, the Olympics. Dang slow news day!

Joe Hussein Mama

February 12th, 2013
4:04 pm

R. Kcin — “Is that the one about “potassium”?

You must be thinking of the one from Borat. :D

Logical Dude

February 12th, 2013
4:04 pm

td
13) and remind the IOC that original wrestlers were in the buff.

josef

February 12th, 2013
4:05 pm

alex

I agree on the “purer” aspect of wrestling. It. like riding, is a product of the military tradition. The one-on-one is one aspect of proper classical military training. Riding is more the individual skill in maneuvring throug combat…

td

February 12th, 2013
4:07 pm

Jay

February 12th, 2013
4:02 pm

Vision Quest?

The wrestling was the second best thing about that movie

You got that right:-)

Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes

February 12th, 2013
4:08 pm

The wrestling was the second best thing about that movie.

Ahhh, Linda Fiorentino — a Pennsylvania gal.

indigo

February 12th, 2013
4:11 pm

Jay – 3:26

It may be that, at the last summer Olympics, wrestling just did not draw good TV ratings. If so, then this, like so many other things, is all about sponsors and money.

JamVet

February 12th, 2013
4:11 pm

DownInAlbany, I think he’s just cutting the cons a break!

I did not know that, alex. But PSU also has an extremely rich wrestling legacy and no doubt they will win a ton of matches with him there.

Most importantly, hopefully the terrible and sickening events that plagued the football program there were very, very isolated.

We are Penn State.

Logical Dude

February 12th, 2013
4:13 pm

indigo: If so, then this, like so many other things, is all about sponsors and money.

Can’t we just have pure competition anymore without the force of sponsors and money interfering?

BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Sorry, I tried, but I couldn’t keep a straight face. We’re talking about the Olympics here.

josef

February 12th, 2013
4:16 pm

LOGICAL

“We’re talking about the Olympics here.”

True, dat. Worst thing to come Atlanta’s way since Sherman.

pogo

February 12th, 2013
4:17 pm

Looks like Atlanta has a police corruption problem. A big police corruption problem. And these are the people you call at 2am to tell them that somebody has broken into your house. Yea, they are going to protect you. I mean, they have no problem with poison being peddled to our children so they can be trusted, right? And Jay writes about wrestling in the Olympics which absolutely nobody cares about (except the Wrestlers who I do feel sorry for).

detritusUSA

February 12th, 2013
4:22 pm

I watched my 15 year old grandson wrestle last year. It was the first time I had ever been to a match. The competition was remarkable, and the sportsmanship outstanding. I’m hooked!
I certainly hope the Olympic committee will change their mind about eliminating the sport.

Jefferson

February 12th, 2013
4:23 pm

Pool, darts, cards, golf all on ESPN not sports just games… should be next to the bridge section in the news.

And I play all of those games.

bman.

February 12th, 2013
4:26 pm

are those Asian ladies in that picture??

JSSN

February 12th, 2013
4:26 pm

Well, let’s get to the nuts and bolts as to why wrestling was on the chopping block along with Field Hockey, Modern Pentathlon, and a few others…

The national governing bodies within FILA are some of the most corrupt in all of amateur athletics… 2. They’ve known since 2000 after the Sydney Olympics that their issues were making them vulnerable for being voted out of the Olympic program.. 3. There is a super drug problem in the FILA that makes the Tour de France look gentile… 4. They missed the boat on including women! Amateur boxing saw the light, it was one of the most entertaining views in London… 4. Colleges eliminated men’s teams to comply with Title IX… It was backhanded, instead of working to develop grass root women programs in states and high schools for girls like boxing or the weightlifting which are taking off, mat teams failed to set up programs until was too late…

Finally, there is TV, Dan Gable was 40 years ago… Now you only see wrestling on the overnight late night Olympic programs… That is a recipe for exclusion! Ratings and ticket sales are the main drivers, they were miserable…

UNCLE SAMANTHA

February 12th, 2013
4:26 pm

the olympics are HOMOPHOBIC
they don’t like 2 men groping each other to determine whose on TOP

liberals should be PROTESTING this decision…….. sounds like a RIGHT WING CONSPIRACY

Tundra Dude

February 12th, 2013
4:27 pm

Maybe the ratings are down for wrestling….?
Might try female wrestlers in bikinis, covered with oil.
Or the Lions vs the Christians……

JSSN

February 12th, 2013
4:27 pm

Should have been “4b”

Erwin's cat

February 12th, 2013
4:30 pm

Josef, I’ve ridden, but not equestrian, not by a long shot. I don’t doubt the skill required, but a competitive sport? The only reason it’s still on the Olympics card is because of the wealth and influence of those who “compete” in it.

grew up with ponies – equestrian hunter/jumper etc…Dressage is tremendously misunderstood, not many people realize that most of the moves the horse makes are unnatural to the beast and at times painful…and training a big dumb animal to do that takes skill and unbelievable patience…

that said, I’d keep wrestling in the program

alex

February 12th, 2013
4:33 pm

Unfortunately, more people would be interested in seeing the MMA in the olympics than wrestling. Also the wrestling in the olympics is freestyle or greco, not the traditional “folk style” we have here at the high school/collegiate level.

@ Jam, there are more penn bred wrestlers at the collegiate level than any other state. Penn., okla, Iowa are the best…tough kids and hard working.

Peadawg

February 12th, 2013
4:34 pm

LOVE LOVE LOVE your sequence of pictures Jay.

The is such a stupid idea I don’t even know where to begin…

pogo

February 12th, 2013
4:35 pm

Actually, with the Idiocracy we now find ourselves living in, I fully expect Speed Text Messaging to supplant such archaic sports as wrestling in the Olympics. The networks would get much better ratings and if they made it where the loser gets blown to bits or has to eat horse crap, they would be through the roof.

josef

February 12th, 2013
4:36 pm

ERWIN

I agree with that post entirely, except I’m not sure the horse is the “big dumb animal.” The rider is. Since you know horses, you know there’s as much of the horse training the rider as vice-versa.

Oh, and as for wrestling…the idea of NOT including it, and even centering on it, is an abomination. I was never much of a wrestler myself, but a couple of my brothers were, and I learned to appreciate it as something a lot more than “brute strength.”

Soothsayer

February 12th, 2013
4:39 pm

Fugitive Dorner in standoff/shootout with police.

JamVet

February 12th, 2013
4:41 pm

td, thanks for that info. So many this is not yet written in stone?

Penn., okla, Iowa are the best…

Probably, but here’s another Husker who won Gold! (London, 2012)

http://www.huskers.com/PhotoAlbum.dbml?ATCLID=205039370&SPSID=56&SPID=28&DB_LANG=C&DB_OEM_ID=100&BIO_PLAYER_ID=61719&BIO_PICTURE_ID=1

DownInAlbany

February 12th, 2013
4:41 pm

JamVet

February 12th, 2013
4:11 pm

DownInAlbany, I think he’s just cutting the cons a break!

Getting soft in his old age? :)

Ken

February 12th, 2013
4:42 pm

Must be an agenda but I have no idea what it might be. Time will tell.

Aquagirl

February 12th, 2013
4:44 pm

Fugitive Dorner in standoff/shootout with police.

Two words: head shot.

Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes

February 12th, 2013
4:45 pm

Fugitive Dorner in standoff/shootout with police.

Two words: head shot.

Drone his punk ass.

Gale

February 12th, 2013
4:47 pm

I was disappointed when professionals were allowed to compete. Was was surprised when sports like beach volley ball were added. But dropping greco-roman wrestling seems to go against the very meaning of the Olympics. This is wrong headed in so many ways.

getalife

February 12th, 2013
4:47 pm

They have itchy trigger fingers.

2 officers wounded so he is probably dead.

pogo

February 12th, 2013
4:48 pm

Another potential Olympic sport; “Athelete’s” ability to stand up while waiting in the que for getting on the Government dole. The one that could stand in line the longest wins the event. The US would take home the gold every time in this one.

Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes

February 12th, 2013
4:51 pm

… for getting on the Government dole.

Haliburton says, “What?”

Aquagirl

February 12th, 2013
4:59 pm

Drone his punk ass

Imagine the LAPD with drones. Jeebus. I’d feel safer in Afghanistan.

alex

February 12th, 2013
5:00 pm

@ Jam; heeluva wrestler ! Huskers and Buckeyes have some excellent wrestling,too!

Jay

February 12th, 2013
5:01 pm

“Imagine the LAPD with drones. Jeebus. I’d feel safer in Afghanistan.”

Amen. Remember those two women delivering newspapers?

Doggone/GA

February 12th, 2013
5:02 pm

“Dressage is tremendously misunderstood, not many people realize that most of the moves the horse makes are unnatural to the beast”

ABSOLUTELY UNTRUE. All the “moves” a horse makes in dressage can be shown done by unridden horses. Many of them are “emotion” driven moves…for display, for intimidation of rivals, to impress other horses. The “trick” involved in dressage is to teach the horse to do them to the very best of it’s ability, but to not also drag along the emotional responses.

“[ and at times painful”

If dressage is painful to the horse, it is being done wrong and is TOTALLY the faultof the rider. But like ANY athlete the horse must be properly brought along, strengthened and practiced. And yes, mistakes happen, but then it is the job of the rider and the trainer to see that the horse is properly cared for to get healed from any problems associated with those mistakes. No different from any other athlete, except the horse can’t TELL the people around where it hurts…it’s their job to find out and to fix it.

alex

February 12th, 2013
5:03 pm

@ detritus, get involved, work a tournament, the return is great, Enjoy your grandson’s competition, I still remember my father’s encouragement (or was it rage) from the stands!

Jefferson

February 12th, 2013
5:03 pm

How about a medal for American apathy, the GOP supporter would rule as long as they don’t get their way…..

appleseed

February 12th, 2013
5:09 pm

Dorner will never g

Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes

February 12th, 2013
5:11 pm

Dorner will never g

But will he h,i,j,k, or l

appleseed

February 12th, 2013
5:11 pm

Dorner wil not get out alive.They will never let him surrender. Kinda looks like Andru

What we won't hear tonight -- THE TRUTH (just update the deficit 50 fold)

February 12th, 2013
5:13 pm

President Gerald R. Ford’s Address Before a Joint Session of the Congress Reporting on the State of the Union — January 15, 1975

…and I must say to you that the state of the Union is not good: Millions of Americans are out of work. Recession and inflation are eroding the money of millions more. Prices are too high, and sales are too slow. This year’s Federal deficit will be about $30 billion; next year’s probably $45 billion. The national debt will rise to over $500 billion. Our plant capacity and productivity are not increasing fast enough. We depend on others for essential energy. Some people question their Government’s ability to make hard decisions and stick with them; they expect Washington politics as usual…

…Cutting taxes now is essential if we are to turn the economy around. A tax cut offers the best hope of creating more jobs. Unfortunately, it will increase the size of the budget deficit. Therefore, it is more important than ever that we take steps to control the growth of Federal expenditures.

Part of our trouble is that we have been self-indulgent. For decades, we have been voting ever-increasing levels of Government benefits, and now the bill has come due. We have been adding so many new programs that the size and the growth of the Federal budget has taken on a life of its own…

http://www.ford.utexas.edu/library/speeches/750028.htm

josef

February 12th, 2013
5:13 pm

DOGGONE

A lot of what you say has to do with the “breeding” and “spotting.” You are right, though, in considering the horse an athlete.

My first boyfriend’s Dad was a Hungarian Rom and in addition to being a professional psychologist, was a owner/breeder/spotter of both the beast and rider…

George P. Burdell

February 12th, 2013
5:14 pm

Its pretty sad that the Olympics has come to this. I never wrestled because my high school had done away with it, rumor had it the football coach wanted a new thatching machine and the budget for mats was done away with, but I did run track. Wrestling is one of the cornerstone sports of the Olympics and I cannot imagine where we are heading with it gone. I don’t want to slam certain sports, but an Olympics with the ones Jay mentioned along with ping pong, half the stuff in the Winter Games, etc, and excluding wrestling makes no sense to me. The Olympics has been dancing on the amateur/pro line for a while now, but to start getting rid of some of the very traditional sports while some of these new, relatively obscure sports are welcomed with open arms is pretty disturbing. Think of all the sports ESPN has shown over the years and then imagine an Olympics with them rather than the traditional sports. That is where we are heading.

As far as wrestling not establishing a women’s program to stay relevant, I ask, who would want to watch two sweaty, lightly clad women tangle and struggle on a mat? Never mind, I withdraw the comment due to my own stupidity.

Aquagirl

February 12th, 2013
5:16 pm

Remember those two women delivering newspapers?

Yes, but LAPD is giving them a shiny new truck, so our cons can roll their eyes at this new method of welfare mooching.

fedup

February 12th, 2013
5:16 pm

Just a thought. Have mud wrestling going in the next pit with the men wrestling event.