Obama’s 5th — count ‘em, five — State of the Union

Tonight, Barack Obama sets the tone and agenda for his second and final term as president of the United States. He will reportedly focus on jobs, the economy and the deficit.

“Nothing I’m proposing tonight should increase our deficit by a single dime,” advance speech excerpts say.  “It’s not a bigger government we need, but a smarter government that sets priorities and invests in broad-based growth.”

He will also announce that by the end of 2013, the number of troops in Afghanistan will be cut in half, with 34,000 men and women in uniform coming home to their families and country. Gun control and immigration are likely to be focuses as well.

UPDATE: 9:19: The president begins with a litany of successes: “Together, we have cleared away the rubble of crisis.” Nicely put.

9:22: Making his pitch to avoid the sequester, “a really bad idea.”

“We must embrace the idea of modest reforms” in Medicare, but not without also asking more of the wealthy and powerful. “We can’t just cut our way to prosperity,” but need a balanced approach to get there.

Tax reform and entitlement reform: The Grand Bargain is still out there, in other words.

9:29: “The greatest nation on Earth cannot keep conducting its business by drifting from one manufactured crisis to another.”

Amen.

9:37: “I propose we use some of our oil and gas revenues to fund an Energy Security Trust that will drive new research and technology to shift our cars and trucks off oil for good.”

9:44: A Georgia shoutout:

“In states that make it a priority to educate our youngest children, like Georgia or Oklahoma, studies show students grow up more likely to read and do math at grade level, graduate high school, hold a job, and form more stable families of their own. So let’s do what works, and make sure none of our children start the race of life already behind. Let’s give our kids that chance.”

9:48: Boehner applauds, lightly, the idea of comprehensive immigration reform.

9:52: “Tonight, let’s declare that in the wealthiest nation on Earth, no one who works full-time should have to live in poverty, and raise the federal minimum wage to $9.00 an hour. We should be able to get that done.”

Let’s just say that’s a big ask, shall we?

9:56: “…. by the end of next year, our war in Afghanistan will be over.” That will be 13 years. That’s long enough.

10:06: I think the most telling words in the speech may have come very early: “Together, we have cleared away the rubble of crisis.” In many ways, especially in tone, this is the speech that a President Obama would have given four years ago if he had not taken office in the middle of the biggest economic crisis in 80 years.

10:13: “Gabby Giffords deserves a vote. The families of Newtown deserve a vote. The families of Aurora deserve a vote.” NRA says “nagannahappen”.

10:16: “‘… this country only works when we accept certain obligations to one another and to future generations.” Correct, Mr. President. And that should not be a controversial statement.

– Jay Bookman

377 comments Add your comment

Maximum

February 12th, 2013
8:56 pm

Welcome to the future!

F. Sinkwich

February 12th, 2013
8:56 pm

In sum, tax and spend. Then spend and tax some more.

Rich people suck. Losers, er, less fortunate are our future.

Government is what makes this country great.

*weeping at his eloquence*

F. Sinkwich

February 12th, 2013
8:58 pm

“Nothing I’m proposing tonight should increase our deficit by a single dime,” advance speech excerpts say.”

Why doesn’t he tell us how he wants to reduce it? Oh yeah, he doesn’t.

Uh Huh.......Barack Hussein Obama, President of the 50 States

February 12th, 2013
9:00 pm

Go Get ‘em Obama.

Let them know who is RUNNING this country.

CONS if you want to lose another ELECTION …..

KEEP doing what you’re doing.

uH hUH

Jay

February 12th, 2013
9:00 pm

“Why doesn’t he tell us how he wants to reduce it? Oh yeah, he doesn’t.”

Watch and learn, grasshopper.

Maximum

February 12th, 2013
9:01 pm

Hilarious comment, False Sinkwich, considering the massive borrow and spend practices of your Republican heroes. But your hopes and dreams of destroying our government by undermining the will of the people is failing, not unlike your ideology.

Kamchak - You cons said Elmer Fudd could defeat Obama, so why didn't you nominate him?

February 12th, 2013
9:01 pm

Obama’s 5th — count ‘em, five — State of the Union

If only cons had nominated Elmer Fudd.

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Kamchak - You cons said Elmer Fudd could defeat Obama, so why didn't you nominate him?

February 12th, 2013
9:03 pm

Jay

February 12th, 2013
9:03 pm

Oscar, it is an occasion of state, with all three branches represented.

Oscar

February 12th, 2013
9:03 pm

Elimthe mortgate tax deduction on all future loans.

Oscar

February 12th, 2013
9:04 pm

Occasion of State. Let me google that.

getalife

February 12th, 2013
9:05 pm

Perhaps you should listen to him before you opine cons.

bman.

February 12th, 2013
9:09 pm

Well, Obama is about to do what he does best….sell.

Uh Huh.......Barack Hussein Obama, President of the 50 States

February 12th, 2013
9:10 pm

Where is Ted (The Demon Rocker) Nugent?

We plead the bl@@d of Jesus against him.

Ted’s weapon against Obama SHALL NOT PROSPER.

.

Oscar

February 12th, 2013
9:10 pm

getalife no good con ever lets facts get in the way of an opinion

Rubio has been writing his response since back in January

Uh Huh.......Barack Hussein Obama, President of the 50 States

February 12th, 2013
9:11 pm

@bman.

February 12th, 2013
9:09 pm
Well, Obama is about to do what he does best….sell
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Sell it Barack.

rcs

February 12th, 2013
9:11 pm

Technically Jay, it’s his fourth state of the union address. 2009 was a speech to joint session of congress.

oldguy

February 12th, 2013
9:14 pm

Watching the 137th Westminster Kennel Club Show. A much better (and honest) show. At least the Stars aren’t lying to us.

Oscar

February 12th, 2013
9:15 pm

Smiles and handshakes all around. Everyone appears to like each other .

Uh Huh.......Barack Hussein Obama, President of the 50 States

February 12th, 2013
9:15 pm

@Oscar

February 12th, 2013
9:10 pm
getalife no good con ever lets facts get in the way of an opinion

Rubio has been writing his response since back in January
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dado que en enero?

que debe ser lenta

o mudo

Uh HUH

Oscar

February 12th, 2013
9:17 pm

Thank you very much – an Elvis fan

F. Sinkwich

February 12th, 2013
9:17 pm

Weak so far…

getalife

February 12th, 2013
9:17 pm

There is much progress to report.

The troops are coming home.

Kamchak - You cons said Elmer Fudd could defeat Obama, so why didn't you nominate him?

February 12th, 2013
9:18 pm

Well, Obama is about to do what he does best….sell.

The smoking gun is the mushroom cloud.

Oscar

February 12th, 2013
9:18 pm

uh huh – let’s keep it clean here.

DrJims The maniac

February 12th, 2013
9:19 pm

Damn, I’m impressed. Really. Didn’t know Bookman could count.

Doggone/GA

February 12th, 2013
9:19 pm

“At least the Stars aren’t lying to us”

I’ll leave you in your ignorance on that

Oscar

February 12th, 2013
9:19 pm

J B does not look very orange. How did he lose his orange?

F. Sinkwich

February 12th, 2013
9:20 pm

He hates profits!

Who knew?

Uh Huh.......Barack Hussein Obama, President of the 50 States

February 12th, 2013
9:20 pm

@oldguy

February 12th, 2013
9:14 pm
Watching the 137th Westminster Kennel Club Show. A much better (and honest) show.

At least the Stars aren’t lying to us.
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If you live and breathe YOU will be lied to…………….

by your wife, mother. daughter, son, pastor, neighbor, grand kids…………..

So don’t pretend you live in a a PERFECT world.

Old Guy, people lie to each other EVERYDAY.

Uh Huh

td

February 12th, 2013
9:21 pm

Mr President,

We do not have a strong middle class because we do not have strong family units. Fix that problem and you fix the middle class problem.

td

February 12th, 2013
9:22 pm

Where in the hell are these numbers coming from?

Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes

February 12th, 2013
9:24 pm

Obama should follow every proposal with “Can I get a what what”.

Heh, heh, heh.

F. Sinkwich

February 12th, 2013
9:25 pm

Sequester was O’bozo’s idea, yet he blames it on congress. He signed it into law. Now he whines about it….

td

February 12th, 2013
9:25 pm

One freaking LIE after another.

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February 12th, 2013
9:26 pm

YAWN ………………………………..

Uh Huh.......Barack Hussein Obama, President of the 50 States

February 12th, 2013
9:26 pm

@Oscar

February 12th, 2013
9:18 pm
uh huh – let’s keep it clean here.

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Obviously, you do not know any other language except anglish.

Uh Huh

td

February 12th, 2013
9:26 pm

The freaking Ryan plan is keeping the promises to our current retirees.

td

February 12th, 2013
9:27 pm

Fairtax!!!!!!

Uh Huh.......Barack Hussein Obama, President of the 50 States

February 12th, 2013
9:27 pm

Tell ‘em Obama.

Tell the truth Barack and SHAME THE DEVILS.

F. Sinkwich

February 12th, 2013
9:28 pm

He just ridiculed deficit reduction.

What a leader…

td

February 12th, 2013
9:28 pm

Investment equals more spending and more spending and more spending.

stands for decibels

February 12th, 2013
9:29 pm

Ridiculed deficit reduction? I wish he had.

Granny Godzilla

February 12th, 2013
9:29 pm

td

February 12th, 2013
9:29 pm

Pay your bills on time when we are borrowing 40 cents on every dollar.

stands for decibels

February 12th, 2013
9:30 pm

well, at least he’s saying jobs are more important than the deficit. that’s something.

td

February 12th, 2013
9:31 pm

And how are you going to not raise the debt when you will not cut any spending?

stands for decibels

February 12th, 2013
9:31 pm

td, people are lending us money for nothing. The deficit is a BS concern.

read. learn.

http://www.alternet.org/economy/8-facts-prove-our-govt-not-going-broke

Jay

February 12th, 2013
9:31 pm

II believe you are correct, rcs

Granny Godzilla

February 12th, 2013
9:31 pm

He’s on fire

appleseed

February 12th, 2013
9:31 pm

Great President.

Jay

February 12th, 2013
9:32 pm

“The greatest nation on Earth cannot keep conducting its business by drifting from one manufactured crisis to another.”

Amen.

willydoit?

February 12th, 2013
9:32 pm

I’ve heard this speech before, count ‘em, four times.

Jobs for teachers, construction workers, rebuild infrastructure, renewable energies…blah blah blah

td

February 12th, 2013
9:33 pm

stands for decibels

February 12th, 2013
9:31 pm

td, people are lending us money for nothing. The deficit is a BS concern.

And what happens when the interest rates rise? They will have to rise.

0311/8541/5811/1811/1801

February 12th, 2013
9:33 pm

Headline (ABC NEWS): “Fort Hood Hero Says President Obama ‘Betrayed’ Her, Other Victims”

“Three years after the White House arranged a hero’s welcome at the State of the Union address for the Fort Hood police sergeant and her partner who stopped the deadly shooting there, Kimberly Munley says President Obama broke the promise he made to her that the victims would be well taken care of.

“Betrayed is a good word,” former Sgt. Munley told ABC News in a tearful interview to be broadcast tonight on “World News with Diane Sawyer” and “Nightline.”

http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/fort-hood-hero-obama-betrayed-victims/story?id=18465024

We’re all his victims now lady ……….. get used to it !

kayaker 71

February 12th, 2013
9:33 pm

“I will cut the deficit in half during my first term”. “For those of you making less than 250K/ yr, your taxes will no go up one thin dime”. “This health care bill that I am proposing will only cost the American taxpayer 940B dollars”. Lies, lies and more lies. How can any intelligent person believe anything that this clown says? Bookman, you have your head conveniently up some very dark, warm, wet and smelly place.

Get Real

February 12th, 2013
9:33 pm

Glad I am wearing brown shoes so all the bull$hit spewing from Obama does not result in stains

F. Sinkwich

February 12th, 2013
9:33 pm

I sure hope he demands more investment in manufacturing successes like Solyndra.

Oh wait…

td

February 12th, 2013
9:34 pm

Jay

February 12th, 2013
9:32 pm

“The greatest nation on Earth cannot keep conducting its business by drifting from one manufactured crisis to another.”

Amen.

Yes, let us go back to regular order in the Congress and no more big deals.

0311/8541/5811/1811/1801

February 12th, 2013
9:34 pm

Granny:

So is Dorner !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Jay

February 12th, 2013
9:34 pm

John Boehner is not a happy camper tonight. He swallowed something that doesn’t agree with him.

Brosephus™

February 12th, 2013
9:34 pm

The freaking Ryan plan is keeping the promises to our current retirees.

And it does that by giving current workers and FUTURE retirees a great big serving of f**k you soup. That’s why the only people who support that crap are the people who benefit from it.

Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes

February 12th, 2013
9:34 pm

They will have to rise.

Says who?

td

February 12th, 2013
9:35 pm

Climate change BS. NO CAP AND TRADE.

stands for decibels

February 12th, 2013
9:36 pm

if interest rates rise, then maybe we’d have a problem. but you see, we don’t have a problem now. Not with borrowing. Our problem is with unemployment. We need to spend money on stuff we need to put people to work. it is not that complicated.

stands for decibels

February 12th, 2013
9:36 pm

F. Sinkwich

February 12th, 2013
9:37 pm

What’s that green ribbon thing? Some eco-weenie save the banana slug thing?

td

February 12th, 2013
9:37 pm

Jay

February 12th, 2013
9:34 pm

John Boehner is not a happy camper tonight. He swallowed something that doesn’t agree with him.

Hopefully he can pass some stinky gas that will make Obama gag since I am gagging on his speech.

Get Real

February 12th, 2013
9:37 pm

Jay, I would be vomiting having to this listen to this guy lie on a national stage for the 5th time….so would any other rational individual

willydoit?

February 12th, 2013
9:38 pm

“We need to spend money on stuff ”

We do!!! Stuff made in China!!

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February 12th, 2013
9:38 pm

“Remember When Obama Promised to ‘Eliminate North Korea’s Nuclear Weapons Programs’?”

“In 2008, then-candidate Barack Obama promised that he would “eliminate North Korea’s nuclear weapons program.” His campaign manifesto, Change We Can Believe In, described Obama’s North Korea policy, and the philosophy behind it, in great detail:

North Korea is an example where direct, tough diplomacy that lays out clear choices to rogue regimes for good and bad behavior can lead to change. When the United States was engaged, the pace of Pyongyang’s development of nuclear weapons was slowed; when we were not, it quickened. While there has been some promising progress, it’s important that all of North Korea’s claims are verified. If they are not, we should move quickly to reimpose sanctions that have been waived, and consider new restrictions going forward. As President, Barack Obama will work with diligence and determination with our friends and allied to end the threat of North Korea and to secure a lasting peace on the Korean peninsula.

Obama’s pledge to use “tough diplomacy” to “end the threat of North Korea” followed his infamous pledge during a Democratic presidential primary debate in 2007 that he would meet the leaders of rogue regimes like North Korea “without preconditions.”

That thinking matches the pseudo-realist view expressed repeatedly by Obama’s new nominee for Secretary of Defense, former Sen. Chuck Hagel (R-NE)–that the danger of regimes such as Iran and North Korea is amplified by, or even caused by, U.S. failure to “engage.” Obama’s extreme self-confidence emboldened his campaign promise not just to contain North Korea, but to convince it to abandon nuclear weapons entirely.

Obama did not just leave such talk on the campaign trail. In his 2010 State of the Union address, Obama boasted of the success of his policy on North Korea:

‘Now, these diplomatic efforts have also strengthened our hand in dealing with those nations that insist on violating international agreements in pursuit of nuclear weapons. That’s why North Korea now faces increased isolation, and stronger sanctions–sanctions that are being vigorously enforced.’

He repeated the North Korea boast in his 2011 State of the Union address:

‘Because of a diplomatic effort to insist that Iran meet its obligations, the Iranian government now faces tougher sanctions, tighter sanctions than ever before. And on the Korean Peninsula, we stand with our ally South Korea, and insist that North Korea keeps its commitment to abandon nuclear weapons.’ (Applause.)

Yet today, on the day he is to give the first State of the Union address of his second term, North Korea has tested a nuclear bomb. Not only has Obama failed to “eliminate” the North Korean nuclear weapons program; he has also failed to discourage or deter it.

So much for “tough diplomacy” from the Obama administration.”

O.K. O.K. …………… He has four more years !!!

F. Sinkwich

February 12th, 2013
9:38 pm

More cash for caulkers.

Really?

Uh Huh.......Barack Hussein Obama, President of the 50 States

February 12th, 2013
9:39 pm

@willydoit?

February 12th, 2013
9:32 pm
I’ve heard this speech before, count ‘em, four times.

Jobs for teachers, construction workers, rebuild infrastructure, renewable energies…blah blah blah
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He will KEEP giving it UNTIL Cons get it.

Get it?

Uh Huh

Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes

February 12th, 2013
9:39 pm

John Boehner is not a happy camper tonight. He swallowed something that doesn’t agree with him.

TBogg tweeted something about that, but I can’t repost it without getting carded.

https://twitter.com/tbogg

td

February 12th, 2013
9:39 pm

stands for decibels

February 12th, 2013
9:36 pm

if interest rates rise, then maybe we’d have a problem. but you see, we don’t have a problem now. Not with borrowing. Our problem is with unemployment. We need to spend money on stuff we need to put people to work. it is not that complicated.

Obama has spent more money on stimulus then any other President in US history. How has that worked out so far?

F. Sinkwich

February 12th, 2013
9:40 pm

This is the same speech he gave four years ago.

Crap then, crap now.

Uh Huh.......Barack Hussein Obama, President of the 50 States

February 12th, 2013
9:41 pm

@0311/8541/5811/1811/1801

February 12th, 2013
9:38 pm
“Remember When Obama Promised to ‘Eliminate North Korea’s Nuclear Weapons Programs’?”
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No…..

But I DO REMEMBER……….Weapons of Mass Destruction.

Uh Huh

td

February 12th, 2013
9:42 pm

It seems that Obama is missing his speech writer. I am getting bored.

F. Sinkwich

February 12th, 2013
9:42 pm

Most astonishing part of his speech so far: He hasn’t blamed Bush for anything, yet.

willydoit?

February 12th, 2013
9:42 pm

“He will KEEP giving it UNTIL Cons get it.”

Or as long as the Dims keep SUCKING it up!!

SUCK IT!

uh huh!!

Mr_B

February 12th, 2013
9:42 pm

On to preK access. This one is a winner.

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February 12th, 2013
9:43 pm

“NKOREA TEST #3: ‘Miniaturized, lighter’…

Japan’s PM Calls Urgent Security Meeting…

Pyongyang orders troops to prepare for combat…
2008: Obama Promised to ‘Eliminate’ NKorea Nukes…

World shaken…

Will boost Iran…

Savage envisions China threat in ‘Time for War’…

Obama’s Asia team has no Korea experts… ”

Say a little prayer for our 2nd Infantry Division troops sitting on the 38th parallel in South Korea.

Just like 1950 they have been placed there by spineless politicians as “canon fodder”.

Uh Huh.......Barack Hussein Obama, President of the 50 States

February 12th, 2013
9:43 pm

@F. Sinkwich

February 12th, 2013
9:40 pm
This is the same speech he gave four years ago.

Crap then, crap now.
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I am sorry some of you CONS can’t keep up.

I know all of this is OVER YOUR HEAD.

But I don’t judge……….everybody could not get a good education.

Uh Huh

Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes

February 12th, 2013
9:44 pm

He hasn’t blamed Bush for anything, yet.

Jimmy Carter says, “What?”

Jay

February 12th, 2013
9:44 pm

A Georgia shoutout:

“In states that make it a priority to educate our youngest children, like Georgia or Oklahoma, studies show students grow up more likely to read and do math at grade level, graduate high school, hold a job, and form more stable families of their own. So let’s do what works, and make sure none of our children start the race of life already behind. Let’s give our kids that chance.”

stands for decibels

February 12th, 2013
9:45 pm

bama has spent more money on stimulus then any other President in US history. How has that worked out so far?

1. HE hasn’t spent a penny (well, beyond what he’s earned and spent, personally.) Congress appropriates the money, etc.

2. We needed to spend more than the ~500B or so of that initial stimulus. We need to spend more now.

3, Austerity is for losers.

kayaker 71

February 12th, 2013
9:46 pm

Any so called journalist should maintain some sort of credibility. He can do it by being objective and truthful. He can do it by telling the whole story instead of skewing the facts to fit his own scenario. He can do it by listening to those who disagree with him….. each of us has some truth to tell. But you can’t do it with endless pandering to an obvious failure in leadership, praising someone who cannot get past the love he has for himself or pretending that “everything is alright” or as Jay Carney endlessly points out, “We are at the cusp of turning this economy around”. All pretending, Bookman. Nothing more. And if your continual loyalty to an ideology that just does not work is more important than the future of this great country, you have a hell of a lot to learn.

F. Sinkwich

February 12th, 2013
9:46 pm

Very tepid applause, even from his Marxist comrades.

stands for decibels

February 12th, 2013
9:46 pm

yeah, the GA pre-k is something to be proud of. As is HOPE.

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February 12th, 2013
9:46 pm

Uh Huh…….Barack
Hussein Obama,
President of the 50 States :

I think you mean “57″ states ??

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EpGH02DtIws

Jay

February 12th, 2013
9:47 pm

“Tonight, I ask Congress to change the Higher Education Act, so that affordability and value are included in determining which colleges receive certain types of federal aid. And tomorrow, my Administration will release a new “College Scorecard” that parents and students can use to compare schools based on a simple criteria: where you can get the most bang for your educational buck.

Yes, yes, yes. The for-profit colleges ripping off kids and sticking them with huge, unrepayable loans is a national scandal.

Uh Huh.......Barack Hussein Obama, President of the 50 States

February 12th, 2013
9:47 pm

@willydoit?

February 12th, 2013
9:42 pm
“He will KEEP giving it UNTIL Cons get it.”

Or as long as the Dims keep SUCKING it up!!

SUCK IT!
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We got it in 2008.

We are just WAITING for CONS to CATCH UP.

We understand that everyone is not intellectually astute.

Uh Huh

Butch Cassidy

February 12th, 2013
9:47 pm

Hmmm…science and math. I think the Right just took a dump.

td

February 12th, 2013
9:47 pm

Jay

February 12th, 2013
9:44 pm

If 4 year school is so important and critical then why are not Ga’s kids not at the top of the nation in Education today? The Pre K program is in about its 12th or 13th year.

F. Sinkwich

February 12th, 2013
9:48 pm

Amnesty !!

Never saw that coming.

Cloudodust

February 12th, 2013
9:48 pm

I’d wager the bulk of B Ho’s voting base is doing something other than watching their Thief in Chief. The same bulk is probably anticipating the postman delivering the check pretty dang soon…Down the toilet for 4 more years…Rah…

Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes

February 12th, 2013
9:49 pm

Amnesty !!

Never saw that coming.

1986 Reagan says, “What?”

0311/8541/5811/1811/1801

February 12th, 2013
9:49 pm

Has he insulted any members of the Supreme Court yet ??

Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes

February 12th, 2013
9:50 pm

anticipating the postman delivering the check pretty dang soon…

Haliburton says, “What?”

td

February 12th, 2013
9:50 pm

Jay

February 12th, 2013
9:47 pm

“Yes, yes, yes. The for-profit colleges ripping off kids and sticking them with huge, unrepayable loans is a national scandal.”

Get rid of tenure and promote competition and this will bring down the prices.