North Korea jerks the world’s chain once more
The North Korean young’un, Kim Jong-Un, is making his bid to sit at the big people’s table. His country has just announced its third test of a nuclear bomb, this one considerably larger than those that preceded it (although still about half as powerful as the bomb dropped on Hiroshima in 1945).
The test inspired the usual round of diplomatic condemnation, employing rhetoric that was calibrated to communicate exactly the preferred degree of offense. The Obama administration described the test as a “highly provocative act”; the U.N.’s International Atomic Energy Agency used the somewhat less critical “deeply regrettable,” while China merely communicated its “staunch opposition” to the test.
China probably does staunchly oppose having a half-mad nuclear upstart on its border, but its other options are even less attractive. The rest of the world already refuses to do business with North Korea, and China could follow suit by cutting off badly needed oil and other supplies to its southern neighbor. However, doing so might greatly increase the flow of refugees across its border and could destabilize the Kim regime.
China has no interest whatsoever in provoking that degree of turmoil on its border, particularly when it would likely end in a reunified Korea under a U.S.-aligned government.
And while some American politicians may make noises about needing a more aggressive response, that too is just noise. International sanctions on North Korea have already been turned up to “11″; you can’t cut trade to less than nothing. And if you employ any sort of military option, you do so knowing that it will probably result in all-out war leading to the death of millions.
Like the Chinese, we have concluded that as bad as it is, the status quo is still better than the likely alternative.
– Jay Bookman
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Keep Up the Good Fight!
February 12th, 2013
9:36 am
Didn’t we just have a blog here a couple of weeks ago where all the libs were arguing that the sanctions against North Korea were working wonderfully?
Nope. But we did have one particular clownish poster who spun around in circles telling us how North Korea was a wonderful example of how to secure borders.
Itchy Finger
February 12th, 2013
9:36 am
Here is an example of just how out of touch dems are from reality….
http://www.gallup.com/poll/160385/obama-rated-highest-foreign-affairs-lowest-deficit.aspx?utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=gallupnews&utm_campaign=syndication
Peadawg
February 12th, 2013
9:37 am
I’m not worried.
None of those Asians are tall enough to reach the lever….
Thulsa Doom
February 12th, 2013
9:37 am
Speaking of stuff falling from the sky CNN now has a news anchors questioning whether or not asteroids from outer space are an indicator of global warming on Earth. I can’t figure out what’s scarier- the kook liberal media or their followers who listen to and believe this kinda crap.
The threat of global warming may stretch so far beyond Earth that it affects meteorites millions of miles away in space — at least according to one CNN anchor. Reminds me of when I watched Dianne Sawyer try to bully her meterologist into making a connection between global warming and the Joplin and Tuscaloosa tornados.
“Talk about something else that’s falling from the sky and that is an asteroid. What’s coming our way? Is this an effect of, perhaps, of global warming, or is this just some meteoric occasion?” CNN’s Deborah Feyerick asked Bill “The Science Guy” Nye, head of the Planetary Society, in a Saturday segment.
Feyerick, who had earlier quizzed Nye about the possible link between global warming and the weekend snowstorm, was referring to Asteroid 2012 DA14, which will whiz within 17,000 miles or so of Earth on Feb 15. The asteroid’s relatively close trajectory on its latest pass of Earth has been extensively covered in recent weeks.
mm
February 12th, 2013
9:37 am
“But to turn this into a means to screw companies out of more dollars to send overseas is silly.”
“Or we could replace them with obama folks and watch real income decrease nearly 10% in 4 years as it has in this country.”
More “intelligence” from the right.
JohnnyReb
February 12th, 2013
9:39 am
A correction to my 9:32. It should have read… tax payer money laundering to the Democratic Party via unions. I apologoze for the oversight.
Granny "Impolite" Godzilla
February 12th, 2013
9:39 am
Itchy Finger
February 12th, 2013
9:26 am
Will obama’s legacy on foreign policy be called piece through weakness? Just wondering..
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Actually the weak seldom get a piece.
barking frog
February 12th, 2013
9:39 am
If they can lift a payload the size of their current bomb
into orbit, I would say the young’un is at the big folks
table.
Joe Hussein Mama
February 12th, 2013
9:39 am
Those here who complain about the danger from North Korea growing during Obama’s administration would be well-advised to read up on NK history over the past 20 years.
It wasn Clinton’s Agreed Framework that brought the NKs to the table, and that program was *working* until President Bush decided to trash it. Just two years later, NK was setting off its first underground nuclear test.
At that point, the Bush administration changed its mind and decided to start talking again, but it was too late — the lesson had been learned.
If the US doesn’t like you and you don’t have nukes, then you’re going to get invaded like Iraq did.
If the US doesn’t like you and you DO have nukes, then you can cut a deal.
Too bad President Bush inadvertently taught that lesson to all the tin-pot dictators in the world.
Thulsa Doom
February 12th, 2013
9:39 am
And we did have one moronic poster who doesn’t think borders can be secured at all. Looks like Doomy got to take out the garbage again.
Thulsa Doom
February 12th, 2013
9:40 am
They long to be close to Doom…
GT
February 12th, 2013
9:42 am
Itchy Finger you think like Kim Jong-Un.
Erwin's cat
February 12th, 2013
9:42 am
None of those Asians are tall enough to reach the lever…
how tolerant of you
Thomas Heyward Jr
February 12th, 2013
9:42 am
Lest we forget………North Korea has the progressive dream.
They would scoff at “Obama-care’.
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North Korea provides free universal health care to the entire population of 23 million, thus figures for antenatal, birth and infant health care far exceed regional norms. The country’s professional health care workforce is far ahead of the Asian average. There are 32.9 doctors and 41.2 nurses and midwives per 100,000 population, which is four to six times the regional norm. Health care infrastructure is well-established, and the health care workforce boasts over 300,000 members. Regarding health care research, North Korea’s capital, Pyongyang, is also host to the WHO Collaborating Centre for Development of Primary Health Care at District Level, which is located at the Institute of Public Health Administration.
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lol
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That’s gotta burn.
Joe Hussein Mama
February 12th, 2013
9:42 am
L. Nightmare — “Ah the obvious product of public education. Jeeesh Cookman, at least proofread. Last time I checked NK was China’s NORTHERN neighbor.”
Afraid not.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geography_of_North_Korea
Thulsa Doom
February 12th, 2013
9:43 am
“It wasn Clinton’s Agreed Framework that brought the NKs to the table, and that program was *working* until President Bush decided to trash it.”
Aaaaaah. The blame W card. As predictable as the sun rising in the east. A kook never passes up the reliable blame W card.
Itchy Finger
February 12th, 2013
9:43 am
Joe Hussein Mama:
Oh so its Bush’s fault…. The lunacy of the left never ceases to amaze me…..
Thomas Heyward Jr
February 12th, 2013
9:43 am
I mean………..really………………..eating is so overhyped…………..when one can have ……………Obamacare.
Itchy Finger
February 12th, 2013
9:44 am
We never really heard much about North Korea from 2001-2009 when we had a real President…..
Dumb and Dumber
February 12th, 2013
9:45 am
I thought Presidents Carter and Clinton put a stop to this nuclear thing with Korea about 15 years ago (and scooped up a Nobel Peace Prize for putting an end to their nuclear program)? Oh, they lied.
North Korea is also a MAJOR trafficer of narcotics around the world in order to make money. Legalize drugs and their other source of “Trade” dries up.
China holds most of the cards as they border them and have been the most friendly toward NK over the years. We’ll see what type of world leader China really is….
Granny "Impolite" Godzilla
February 12th, 2013
9:46 am
Thulsa Doom
February 12th, 2013
9:43 am
“It wasn Clinton’s Agreed Framework that brought the NKs to the table, and that program was *working* until President Bush decided to trash it.”
Aaaaaah. The blame W card. As predictable as the sun rising in the east. A kook never passes up the reliable blame W card.
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Well, Bush 43 can be blamed for that which he did.
He is afterall a man of personal responsibility, right?
ITS ALL BUSH"S FAULT
February 12th, 2013
9:47 am
Give em Dick Cheney .
Gale
February 12th, 2013
9:47 am
I love it when a simple glance at the map would stop someone from making a fool of himself.
Itchy Finger
February 12th, 2013
9:47 am
Maybe obama can take young-un a Lebron James basketball…
Keep Up the Good Fight!
February 12th, 2013
9:47 am
Oh boy, the absurdity and stupidity of the cons starts early in this thread. As usual, no facts.
Donovan
February 12th, 2013
9:47 am
I feel like the IAEA when I have to monitor this posting site. Even though today’s subject matter should be benign enough not to elicit incendiary leftist commentary, I find it “deeply regrettable” that the posters on this site mirror the attitudes spoken by the North Koreans when discussing thoughts about America and her allies. The love fest shown between your “Dear Leader” and his wannabe Godzilla plays like a North Korean revolution theatre performance.
This nuclear detonation should be considered for what it is and left up to the world leaders to handle. But no. We have to have linkage to gun control and snarky remarks from the usual suspects of liberalism, left leaning pacifists, and neo-commies.
Well, I guess if I have to swim in this cesspool in order to keep abreast of what the enemy is doing, I’m going to get dirty. Thank God for showers.
Try to play nice and keep your blow-back to a minimum.
Michael
February 12th, 2013
9:48 am
Joe Hussein Mama,
If North Korea had truly suspended its nuclear programs under the Clinton talks. Then there is no way that in only two years they would have been ready for a nuclear test. The North Koreans while talking a good talk were never serious about not making a bomb. They merely were using Clinton’s good faith as a cover to continue building a bomb.
Thulsa Doom
February 12th, 2013
9:48 am
“Afraid not.”
N. Korea definitely lies south of the Northeastern part of China. However, when looking at a map of Asia its clear that North Korea lies north of the majority of China. No charge for the geography lesson missy.
Thomas Heyward Jr
February 12th, 2013
9:48 am
The government of North Korea is dominated by the ruling Workers’ Party of Korea (WPK) and has been since North Korea’s inception in 1948.
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So the Workers dominate the government.
A progressive’s wet dream.
Itchy Finger
February 12th, 2013
9:49 am
GT:
I knew I could get one of you fruits to bite…..
Thulsa Doom
February 12th, 2013
9:49 am
Garbage talking bout facts.
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Fly-On-The-Wall
February 12th, 2013
9:49 am
So, Itchy, what would you have the President do with this latest action by NK? Seriously, you b!tch, moan, and complain but you can’t tell us what you or a Republican President (say…Mitt) would do any different then our President is currently doing.
BOW, can you tell what the heck “you seculars get your heads out of the sand and pick up some common sense, religion and personal responsibility” means with NK setting off a nuclear device? Normally I can translate what you say into real people’s speech but you lost me on this one.
Itchy Finger
February 12th, 2013
9:50 am
Keep Up the Good Fight!
Oh boy, the absurdity and stupidity of the cons starts early in this thread. As usual, no facts.
And where are your facts?
Joe Hussein Mama
February 12th, 2013
9:53 am
Doom — “Aaaaaah. The blame W card. As predictable as the sun rising in the east. A kook never passes up the reliable blame W card.”
Translation: Doom’s got nothing, as usual.
I. Finger — “Oh so its Bush’s fault…. The lunacy of the left never ceases to amaze me…..”
Truth hurts. Would you like a Band-Aid?
“We never really heard much about North Korea from 2001-2009 when we had a real President…..”
Except in 2006, when the Norks set off their first nuclear test, of course. (laughing, pointing)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2006_North_Korean_nuclear_test
D & D — “I thought Presidents Carter and Clinton put a stop to this nuclear thing with Korea about 15 years ago (and scooped up a Nobel Peace Prize for putting an end to their nuclear program)? Oh, they lied.”
Nope. They succeeded. President Bush simply decided to do away with their solution (the Agreed Framework), and the Norks obligingly restarted their nuclear program.
stands for decibels
February 12th, 2013
9:53 am
NK was China’s NORTHERN neighbor
http://images-mediawiki-sites.thefullwiki.org/08/3/0/0/13902081003795748.png
oh. em. gee.
Liberal Nightmare, this is, if such a thing is possible, even funnier than that time you were lecturing us “takers” about public school funding, and you let slip that your parents were actually footing the bill for your own kids’ private school education.
And now I learn you can’t even read a flippin’ map.
I can’t wait for your third act, it’s gonna be awesome.
/drive-by
Erwin's cat
February 12th, 2013
9:53 am
facts are for the unimaginative
Paul
February 12th, 2013
9:53 am
ty webb
I thought the reporter’s explanation was pretty weak. Just a slight modification to the sentence and it could’ve read no lifetime healthcare for him and his wife.
Gale
February 12th, 2013
9:55 am
Where does South Korea fit in this puzzle? I now the answer is “google it myself”. But when the idea of reunification comes up, why do we look at China? South Korean would be the more obvious target for North Korea, would it not?
kayaker 71
February 12th, 2013
9:56 am
It was so nice to see the arrogant narcissist being lectured by someone of his own race about the mistakes we are making in our health care system. He was trapped….. he couldn’t get away without looking like more of a dunce than normal. Can’t call this guy a racist like many Bozo critics are called. Nothing but pragmatic good sense to fix a problem without spending us into the poorhouse. Haven’t seen too many criticize him as well. Bozo couldn’t wait to get out of there but that 27 minute speech put things in perspective better than all of Bozo’s lies, arm twisting and demonizing.
Joe Hussein Mama
February 12th, 2013
9:56 am
Michael — “If North Korea had truly suspended its nuclear programs under the Clinton talks. Then there is no way that in only two years they would have been ready for a nuclear test.”
That may be true, but *suspending* the Agreed Framework, as Bush did, simply gave them the excuse to move forward at full speed.
Which is better — slowing down an enemy’s nuclear research (as Clinton did) or removing all obstacles to it (as Bush did)?
“The North Koreans while talking a good talk were never serious about not making a bomb. They merely were using Clinton’s good faith as a cover to continue building a bomb.”
Again, which is better? Slow or fast?
Thomas Heyward Jr
February 12th, 2013
9:56 am
Tax rate in North Korea?
100% (unless you work for the government)
Then it’s 98.5%.—————
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Another progressive wet dream.
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Where’s the love?
Thulsa Doom
February 12th, 2013
9:56 am
Granny Godzilla,
Don’t be ridiculous. Joe Mama’s comment that Clinton’s “agreed upon framework brought N. Korea to the table and that it “was working” is simply beyond stupid. I don’t know if Joe is that naive or just drinking the koolaid that his mind thinks those negotiations “were working”. The only thing those negotiations did was allow the N. Koreans to continually stall for more time as they further developed nukes. They never had any intention of backing off and developing nukes and if people like you and Joe actually believe they did then you’ve been spending a truly inordinate amount of time in liberal fantasyland. They’ve been playing us like a fiddle for a long time and using negotiations as a stalling tactic is how they roll. Why does this even have to be explained to you folks. Are ya’ll that dang clueless, misinformed, and naive? Um. Don’t answer that. I already know the answer and its a resounding Hell Yes.
Joe Hussein Mama
February 12th, 2013
9:58 am
Doom — “N. Korea definitely lies south of the Northeastern part of China. However, when looking at a map of Asia its clear that North Korea lies north of the majority of China. No charge for the geography lesson missy.”
Argue with the map, son. (laughing, pointing)
Thulsa Doom
February 12th, 2013
9:59 am
“It was so nice to see the arrogant narcissist being lectured by someone of his own race about the mistakes we are making in our health care system.”
Kayaker,
OMG. It was like a man tutoring a child. You could see Obama just seething that this brilliant man was making him look like the empty suit that he is. Gotta really tick the kooks off. They can’t scream RACISM!!!
Granny "Impolite" Godzilla
February 12th, 2013
10:01 am
Doom
I only do ridiculous when playing with toddler G.
JHM is correct…..what is better slow or fast?
Thulsa, do you think we should now make war on North Korea?
Joe Hussein Mama
February 12th, 2013
10:01 am
Doom — “Don’t be ridiculous. Joe Mama’s comment that Clinton’s “agreed upon framework brought N. Korea to the table and that it “was working” is simply beyond stupid.”
You’re the one that can’t read a *map,* son. (giggling)
“Are ya’ll that dang clueless, misinformed, and naive? Um. Don’t answer that. I already know the answer and its a resounding Hell Yes.”
When we have questions about medical insurance, we’ll call on you, Doom. Until then, your contributions are not needed.
If you have no work to do this morning, you could always crack a book and smarten up.
Thulsa Doom
February 12th, 2013
10:01 am
No arguing with the map ma’am. It only confirms what I said. (rolling on the ground laughing)
appleseed
February 12th, 2013
10:03 am
Old Faithful erupting again,spewing the metamucil drivel.Georgie boy shure stood up to Russia.Remember Georgia/Odessa,Ukraine.
Erwin's cat
February 12th, 2013
10:04 am
so is Canada considered our eastern neighbor?…It’s on Alaska’s eastern border
Keep Up the Good Fight!
February 12th, 2013
10:04 am
Oh well. Seems stupidity and scum sure do beg for attention. And now some even want to know where to get facts (admitting their prior failures to have facts).
Thomas Heyward Jr
February 12th, 2013
10:06 am
Rodong Sinmun, mouthpiece of the ruling Workers’ Party of Korea, heaped praise on Jong Un in a Jan. 13 post to its website, saying the young leader exuded the “aroma of a great man.”
The report likened Jong Un’s warm humanity to a spring sun and said his emotions were as wide as the ocean. It said his philosophical side was as deep as a lake.
Such saccharin commentary reflects a push to deify Jong Un to cult status like his father and grandfather before him.
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Well…………..Obama made the tides recede.
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lol
Joe Hussein Mama
February 12th, 2013
10:06 am
E. Cat — “so is Canada considered our eastern neighbor?…It’s on Alaska’s eastern border”
It would appear that some of our conservative friends and associates might just agree with that.
Stevie Ray
February 12th, 2013
10:06 am
IMO the most important question that I haven’t seen surface bout this guy is can we expect the Moe hairdo the new sensation in hair styling?
Itchy Finger
February 12th, 2013
10:06 am
Joe Hussein Mama:
You seemed to have forgotten this Joe. Bush had North Korea tamed after that 2006 joke of a detonation. Of course when obama assumed the Presidency they thumbed their nose at the weakness displayed by him and his pathetic administration….
http://2001-2009.state.gov/r/pa/prs/ps/2008/jun/106281.htm
Mr Right
February 12th, 2013
10:07 am
Congratulations Jay, I was waiting for the blast against the GOP somewhere somehow but it never came! You must be having a bad day!
appleseed
February 12th, 2013
10:07 am
Ossetia sorry about that.
RB from Gwinnett
February 12th, 2013
10:07 am
When we take military action off the table with North Korea and there are no more sanctions as Jay says…..what is Iran’s incentive to stop their program too? Nothing. And so, we’ll watch Iran join NK in the nuclear weapons game and the media will blame Bush for it while telling the world what a great diplomat Obama is around the world and you koolaid lappers will drink it up like candy.
Jeffrey
February 12th, 2013
10:07 am
Does anyone else think we are finally going to see sanity from the republicans tonight, when Rubio speaks? I heard rand Paul is supposed to give the tea party speech but I think considering the last election Rubio is going to have a lot riding on this speech, so is there a chance we’ll get truth and moderation?
Thulsa Doom
February 12th, 2013
10:07 am
“When we have questions about medical insurance, we’ll call on you, Doom. Until then, your contributions are not needed.”
And yet my jester responds.
“If you have no work to do this morning, you could always crack a book and smarten up.”
Sez the blogger who spends all day at work on a blog. Perhaps we really do need some more HB-1 visas. Sorta get rid of some of those dead weight inefficient IT folks who sit on their asses all day blogging on company time.
So the age old question still hasn’t been answered. Was Joe Mama 100% wrong when he was a Republican years ago and he’s 100% right today? Or was he 100% right back in his Republican days and now he’s 100% wrong? The answer is neither. In Joe’s world he was 100% right back when he was an R and now today he’s 100% right now that he’s a lib. And no. They’re not mutually exclusive. Not in Joe’s little noggin anyway. BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAH
mm
February 12th, 2013
10:09 am
“It wasn Clinton’s Agreed Framework that brought the NKs to the table, and that program was *working* until President Bush decided to trash it.”
Facts hurt, don’t they cons? Your “conservative” fantasy land mentality is getting scary.
barking frog
February 12th, 2013
10:09 am
Starving the inhabitants of a country to collapse a
regime will create willing participants to your ambitions
for that country every time.
GT
February 12th, 2013
10:10 am
The more amazing thing is you people do not blame Bush or your blind leaders for anything. Thus they don’t change thus the Democrats by default take over and have to clean the messes you people refuse to clean up yourselves. Your best response is the childish,” we get blamed for everything”, and until you grow up you always will.
Joe Hussein Mama
February 12th, 2013
10:10 am
I. Finger — “You seemed to have forgotten this Joe. Bush had North Korea tamed after that 2006 joke of a detonation.”
Bulldada. They went right along with preparing for their *next* test.
The only thing President Bush managed to tame was Barney.
Granny "Impolite" Godzilla
February 12th, 2013
10:11 am
Pardon Me Thulsa
Do you want to make war on North Korea?
Keep Up the Good Fight!
February 12th, 2013
10:12 am
Frog, I believe the sanctions imposed by many countries include the exceptions for:
•humanitarian efforts and goods, such as food and medical supplies or equipment;
•stabilization and reconstruction assistance and activities
Joe Hussein Mama
February 12th, 2013
10:13 am
Doom — “Sez the blogger who spends all day at work on a blog. Perhaps we really do need some more HB-1 visas. Sorta get rid of some of those dead weight inefficient IT folks who sit on their asses all day blogging on company time.”
I *love* how you don’t know what I do, but you repeatedly flail around, trying to guess.
“So the age old question still hasn’t been answered.”
Of course it has. I’m smarter than you. Better-looking, too.
Now go run to your big brother Bruno. (giggling)
Itchy Finger
February 12th, 2013
10:13 am
Fly-On-The-Wall
So, Itchy, what would you have the President do with this latest action by NK? Seriously, you b!tch, moan, and complain but you can’t tell us what you or a Republican President (say…Mitt) would do any different then our President is currently doing.
Show strength. Not weakness… This President started by going around the world on an apology tour bowing before various leaders.. We are now laughed at. Not feared as we are under Republican leadership….
IT'S ALL BUSH'S FAULT
February 12th, 2013
10:14 am
Called them the AXIS OF EVIL…LOL
appleseed
February 12th, 2013
10:14 am
Oh Lord it hard to be humble,when you are perfect in every way………Delta Doomy
Keep Up the Good Fight!
February 12th, 2013
10:15 am
World apology tour?
BINGO!!!!!!!!!!
Joe Hussein Mama
February 12th, 2013
10:15 am
RB — “When we take military action off the table with North Korea”
I’ll bite. What’s your plan for taking on North Korea?
What military units would you use in what ways?
yuzeyurbrane
February 12th, 2013
10:15 am
I think you are glossing over the danger of the willingness of North Korea to sell its weapons and technology to countries that pose even bigger danger. After all, they are broke and otherwise produce nothing that the rest of the world wants to buy. I certainly don’t want war but I hope that we are otherwise actively working to promote regime change.
Granny "Impolite" Godzilla
February 12th, 2013
10:16 am
JHM
He didn’t really to do well with Barney either …he was apparently a “nipper”
barking frog
February 12th, 2013
10:16 am
Keep Up 10:12
so, they are well fed, with good medicine and housing. thanks.
IT'S ALL BUSH'S FAULT
February 12th, 2013
10:17 am
Make them sign a pledge prepared by Grover Norquist ….lmao!
Itchy Finger
February 12th, 2013
10:17 am
Mr Right
Congratulations Jay, I was waiting for the blast against the GOP somewhere somehow but it never came! You must be having a bad day!
Even though Jay is a terribly misguided left winger I’ll admit he’s informed. He realizes this is all obama’s baby and no one else. That’s why he’s just sitting back reading these comments and not chiming in. He can’t defend some of the ridiculous comments by the Bookman buffoons… So he’ll stay out of the debate…..
JamVet
February 12th, 2013
10:17 am
This morning’s inconvenient fact:
The North Korean government and the Republican Party are the only two major non-scientific organizations in the world (there are NO scientific ones) that think anthropogenic climate change is a hoax.
What a pair!
j
February 12th, 2013
10:17 am
Why should the U.S. be interested in any way. All of the countries in the world are closer to North Korea than the U.S. They are the ones that should be outraged.
No country is going to do anything. Korea will have their nuclear arsenal. Just more rhetoric. more cartoons for the pulitzer prize winner.
Mick
February 12th, 2013
10:18 am
doom
Mighty protector of the bush legacy – see no evil, speak no evil, and especially hear no evil. Yes, it probably was third rate cheney who advised georgie to be tough guy with n. korea and the FACT is they thumbed their nose at him and built nukes – the truth hurts! They couldn’t leave well enough alone but trashed everything clinton.
Love the way the right has been glomming onto this “uppity” pastor ready to shine his shoes but opinions are like your butt, everyones’ got one. Sure, say what you want, be coy, and make yourself sound cool but the fact of the matter is that YOU are not president and making the tough decisions, you’ll never please all the people all the time. There are some fools who believed in elmer fudd, that’s their perogative…
Joe Hussein Mama
February 12th, 2013
10:18 am
I. Finger — “This President started by going around the world on an apology tour bowing before various leaders..”
That’s been debunked time and time again. If you’ve got a specific criticism about something he’s done, fine — tell us *specifically* what’s got you upset. But please don’t retreat to that debunked crap about ‘apology tour.’
“We are now laughed at. Not feared as we are under Republican leadership….”
Don’t you think that being feared led our enemies to begin undertaking terror attacks against us like 9/11, rather than taking us on openly, on the field of battle?
Thomas Heyward Jr
February 12th, 2013
10:18 am
Kim-jong Un……….Ahmadinejad…………..Obama.
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The good guys eventually win in the end. Who the good guys are, I don’t know yet,……………..but I do know that the good guys do not murder 16 year-old american citizens, innocents at wedding celebrations , or first responders at said crime scenes.
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Live it, learn it………..deal with it.
IT'S ALL BUSH'S FAULT
February 12th, 2013
10:18 am
Threaten them with a Tea Party invasion…
IT'S ALL BUSH'S FAULT
February 12th, 2013
10:21 am
Hey ITCHY, you might have a hemi causing that itch.
Keep Up the Good Fight!
February 12th, 2013
10:22 am
Frog, I did not say that. Thanks. But if they are not, it is not because of sanctions. You may want to look at reality and the real causes.
Thulsa Doom
February 12th, 2013
10:23 am
EC,
Now you getting all extreme. As I clearly stated N. Korea lies UNDER the northeast Chinese panhandle so of course it is under China. But its also north of most of China and that’s probably what the poster was looking at. No biggie.
Michael
February 12th, 2013
10:23 am
Joe Hussien Mama,
While I agree that a slow development would be preferable, you have to realize that my point was that this was/is going to happen. North Korea had then and has now, no intention of not making the bomb. They just hid it better under Clinton, and were more blatant under Bush. Please don’t forget that they have continued to be just as blatant with it under President Obama. It is my opinion that after the Bush (H. W.) Presidency, when Clinton and Bush (W) allowed India and Pakistan to develop the bomb, we lost our ability to say who gets what in the world of nuclear weapons. We the whole of the Western “Free World” have become a paper tiger in respect to nuclear non-proliferation. This administration has done a no better job than the previous two in actually stopping rogue states from obtaining nuclear weapons. Short of war, which mind you I am in no way supporting, there is no way to stop North Korea or Iran from building bombs. There leaders don’t care about sanctions, nor the hardships that are imposed on the population as a result. Time we protect ourselves and let the rest of the world sort this out. Unfortunately, while we are still the biggest kid on the block, we have neither the resources nor the man power to keep all the other kids in-line.
Itchy Finger
February 12th, 2013
10:23 am
Joe Hussein Mama
I. Finger — “You seemed to have forgotten this Joe. Bush had North Korea tamed after that 2006 joke of a detonation.”
Bulldada. They went right along with preparing for their *next* test.
The only thing President Bush managed to tame was Barney.
Got proof? We’re you there? Didn’t think so.. They conducted no more tests or even made an inkling of noise the rest of the Bush Presidency… But when obama assumed the Presidency.. It was on!!!
Granny "Impolite" Godzilla
February 12th, 2013
10:25 am
Thulsa Doom
Again, Do you want to make war on North Korea?
Erwin's cat
February 12th, 2013
10:26 am
Doom – You can interpret my comment two ways
barking frog
February 12th, 2013
10:26 am
While the US and South Korea sit truculently on their
border the North Koreans are expected to lay down
their weapons and humbly join the world community.
Itchy Finger
February 12th, 2013
10:26 am
Maybe obama can just raise taxes on North Korea…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=qlCkrib7tAM#at=21
kayaker 71
February 12th, 2013
10:27 am
The only thing that govts like Iran and NK respect is raw power and the ability to use it. When they perceive that a leader of the free world will do nothing to stop their nuclear ambitions except impose worthless sanctions, they are emboldened to continue. They just don’t fear us enough.
Thulsa Doom
February 12th, 2013
10:29 am
“Mighty protector of the bush legacy – see no evil, speak no evil, and especially hear no evil.”
Mick,
To the contrary Mick. You believe that because of your preconceived notions or ASSumptions about what you think cons think.
In my view W was a poor president for a number of reasons but mostly for the debt buildup and spending.
But what I find amusing is that while cons for the most part seem to admit to W’s failure to contain spending as well as other faults the only thing libs do is blame everything under Obama’s watch on W. I’ve never seen anything like it. Its like the man has no responsibility for anything. He will literally spend 8 years blaming his failures on the previous president. I don’t what’s sadder- his lack of responsibility and accountability or the fact that people believe this crap that nothing is his responsibility.
Itchy Finger
February 12th, 2013
10:29 am
Perhaps obama could send Beyonce to perform for Young-un….
barking frog
February 12th, 2013
10:30 am
Itchy Finger
Maybe obama can just raise taxes on North Korea…
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Obama can’t raise taxes on North Carolina.
curious
February 12th, 2013
10:30 am
Sent Ted Nugent to North Korea along with the “butt kickers’ on this blog.
Granny "Impolite" Godzilla
February 12th, 2013
10:32 am
Thulsa Doom
Again, Do you want to make war on North Korea?
Thulsa Doom
February 12th, 2013
10:32 am
“Again, Do you want to make war on North Korea?”
Granny Godzilla,
Absolutely not. For what reason would we go to war with them? Nothing productive is going to come of it and we risk a much wider, more costly, and potentially catastrophic war with China. Are you hung up with the mindset that we cons are just itching to start another war?
willie lynch
February 12th, 2013
10:33 am
Couldn’t it be said that North Korea’s development of a nuclear weapon could be justified by the same rationale as the pro gun lobby that the only way to prevent a bad guy with a bomb is for a good guy to have a bomb? After all we can only name one country that has dropped a nuclear bomb on another country.
barking frog
February 12th, 2013
10:33 am
North Korea better hope they don’t discover oil under
their territory.