The increasingly angry, embittered John McCain
In the video below, Sen. John McCain demonstrates his version of respect for the uniform as he responds to testimony by Gen. Martin Dempsey, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, regarding the inability of the U.S. military to respond in time to the Benghazi attacks. As McCain sees, Dempsey’s testimony was “one of the more bizarre statements I have ever seen” and “simply false”. In other words, the general was lying under oath to a congressional committee:
“I stand by my testimony, your dispute of it notwithstanding,” Dempsey responded afterward.
Defense Secretary Leon Panetta backed up Dempsey’s statement before the Senate Armed Services Committee. As Tom Curry of NBC News reports:
“In his testimony, Panetta said the Department of Defense and U.S. armed forces “did all that we could do in response to the attacks in Benghazi.” He explained that “armed UAVs (unmanned aerial vehicles, or drones), AC-130 gunships, or fixed-wing fighters with the associated tanking – you’ve got to provide air re-fueling– armaments – you’ve got to arm all the weapons before you put them on the planes” — were not in the vicinity of Libya.
He said that even if he’d been able to deploy F-16 fighters or AC-130 gunships over Benghazi in time, “the mission still depends on accurate information about what targets they’re supposed to hit. And we had no forward air controllers there” and no communications with U.S. personnel on the ground.
He said, “because of the distance, it would have taken at least 9 to 12 hours, if not more, to deploy these forces to Benghazi. This was, pure and simple, — in the absence as I said of any kind of advance warning — a problem of distance and time.”
Panetta also pointed out that the two attacks in Benghazi were relatively brief, and occurred six hours apart. “We were not dealing with a prolonged or continuous assault which could have been brought to an end by a U.S. military response,” Panetta said.
According to Richard Sisk of military.com, McCain wasn’t alone in pressing the case:
“Other Republicans on the committee joined McCain in questioning why the military didn’t send F16s or AC-130 gunships to drive off the terrorists attacking Benghazi, but Dempsey and Defense Secretary Leon Panetta, who also testified, said there simply wasn’t time and they lacked the intelligence to mount an effective response.
Dempsey said there wasn’t an AC-130 gunship within 1,000 miles of Benghazi and the nearest F16s at a base in Aviano, Italy, were not on standby alert and would not have reached Benghzi in time.
Panetta added that “you can’t just willy-nilly send F16s there and blow the hell out of a place without knowing what’s taking place.”
It would be nice if the world were as simple and uncomplicated as McCain prefers to it be, if intervention were possible merely because he wants it to be possible, if technicalities such as time and space could be waved away merely by his own insistence that they are unimportant.
We do not live in such a world, although McCain increasingly appears to believe that he does.
– Jay Bookman
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stands for decibels
February 8th, 2013
7:28 am
Because someone has to take the fall just like the Dems demanded of Reagan.
Are you REALLY claiming that an Ambassador getting pinned down in an unsecured location is in any way equivalent to a massive conspiracy within an Administration to subvert the will of Congress by trading arms for hostages and funding a secret war?
(I’d close with “have you no sense of shame?” but I already know the answer to that one.)
j
February 8th, 2013
7:29 am
That is nothing new, it happens to all politicians, they lose their relevancy. Trying to stay relevant, people go to extremes. Happens to news paper people. They start reading old news clippings, cartoons. They don’t want to update their photo next to their column.
One generation comes and another leaves. Very true, money is the only way to stay relevant.
stands for decibels
February 8th, 2013
7:30 am
“I never saw a foreign intervention that the [New York] Times did not support, never saw a fare increase or a rent increase or a utility rate increase that it did not endorse, never saw it take the side of labor in a strike or lockout, or advocate a raise for underpaid workers. And don’t let me get started on universal health care and Social Security. So why do people think the Times is liberal?”
This, this, a thousand times, this.
And you can apply those same questions to every “liberal” newscast out there.
Granny Godzilla
February 8th, 2013
7:30 am
http://www.republican-elephant.com/12-angry-mccain.jpg
http://0.tqn.com/d/politicalhumor/1/0/I/A/2/mccain-anger-management.jpg
Nothing new…..
stands for decibels
February 8th, 2013
7:32 am
“In every American community you have varying shades of political opinion. One of the shadiest of these is the liberals … Ten degrees to the left of center in good times. Ten degrees to the right of center if it affects them personally.”
–Phil Ochs
Tundra Dude
February 8th, 2013
7:37 am
http://0.tqn.com/d/politicalhumor/1/0/I/A/2/mccain-anger-management.jpg
LOL! Good Wun!
Maybe give him a high dose of prozac…he might be able to fake normalcy…?
Markoo
February 8th, 2013
7:39 am
When McCain stood up to Bush or his appointees, he was commended as a “Maverick”. When he stands up to Obama or his appointees he’s “angry” and “embittered”. Got it.
Granny Godzilla
February 8th, 2013
7:47 am
Tundra Dude
Makes him look like a Reborglican.
TaxPayer
February 8th, 2013
7:49 am
McCain “stands up” to whomever whooped his arse in an election. He’s a sore loser. A bitter old sore loser.
bookman parrot
February 8th, 2013
7:53 am
must be great to be Jay, because he has that extra power of mind reading of other folks motives and emotions
stands for decibels
February 8th, 2013
7:54 am
Actually, I get that it sounds hypocritical to complain about bitter John McCain being bitter about stuff I’m not bitter about. That’s why I haven’t actually complained about bitter John McCain.
Truth is, I do enjoy it sometimes when he lays into someone who has it coming. Kinda like I could find that dead atheist guy…wotsisname?… Chris Hitchens, somewhat tolerable at times.
Most recently, McCain was somewhat useful when he laid into the Citizens United decision, f’rinstance.
Granny Godzilla
February 8th, 2013
7:54 am
Markoo
February 8th, 2013
7:39 am
When McCain stood up to Bush or his appointees, he was commended as a “Maverick”. When he stands up to Obama or his appointees he’s “angry” and “embittered”. Got it.
Steve Schmidt Lies About McCain Standing Up to Bush
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When did he do that?
Steve Schmidt Lies About McCain Standing Up to Bush
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jhJvpXo89FE
Granny Godzilla
February 8th, 2013
7:56 am
bookman parrot
February 8th, 2013
7:53 am
must be great to be Jay, because he has that extra power of mind reading of other folks motives and emotions
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.it’s like the flu I guess….
He caught it from the righties on this blog who daily post…
.”you libs …..(fill in the blank with the poutrage du jour) “
independent thinker
February 8th, 2013
7:59 am
This is nothing now you got that Cruz moron from Texas blocking the nomination of Hagel and the stupid party filibustering his confirmation while country needs a new defense secretary. END THE FILLIBUSTER RULE NOW REID!
stands for decibels
February 8th, 2013
8:00 am
The increasingly angry, embittered John McCain
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McCain increasingly appears to believe
Jay, you keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means.
stands for decibels
February 8th, 2013
8:02 am
END THE FILLIBUSTER RULE NOW REID!
“Now now, calm down please, and keep your powder dry. As I told my good friend Mitch, we must preserve comity in the greatest legislative body ever on the planet.”
–”Give ‘em Head,” Harry Reid
Escaped from Email Purgatory
February 8th, 2013
8:02 am
Lost in the never-ending spate of liberal gloating on all matters politic is the fact that, regardless to what could have been done to save the four Americans, their peril in the first place was caused by a foul up – or series of foul ups – by the State Department.
The confluence of bureaucratic bickering, inter-agency pissing contests and incompetent intelligence gathering resulted in the death of four Americans serving their nation in a dangerous country.
Besides the obvious human tragedy, the United States suffered international humiliation – we can’t protect our Ambassadors overseas.
Hello? Who’s running this show?
We can debate who-knew-what-and-when. We can speculate about whether or not the Adminsitration sand bagged until after the election (not that it would have mattered to Obamaphiles – “Will I still get my check? OK. OK then. Benghazi? What’s Benghazi?”).
But back up to ground zero. Ponder the tragedy that provides the circus that now amuses you liberals so.
If you guys were standing at the plate, you’d never even see the pitch coming.
dcb
February 8th, 2013
8:07 am
Me thinks the dems and liberal news media complain too much. But then if you can’t attack the message, attack the messenger. Or maybe as the dems House leader is prone to say, “It’s just politics”.
hotdog
February 8th, 2013
8:08 am
Old Boy, I too am a Vietnam vet and I think McCain is using his status as a war hero to try to itimidate others. He has shown little love for his country, lately. Rather than standing up to those who would rather let our country fall from grace, he joins them in trying to embarrass Obama. I agree with an earlier post that stated that McCain was bitter because he was the first white man defeated by a black man for POTUS. It’s his own fault for choosing beauty over brains for VEEP!
Granny Godzilla
February 8th, 2013
8:10 am
dcb
February 8th, 2013
8:07 am
Me thinks the dems and liberal news media complain too much
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Lather, RInse, Repeat
Liberal Press?
Time Warner, Walt Disney, Viacom, News Corp., CBS Corporation and NBC Universal.
Liberal Press?
Stupid. Stupid. Stupid.
Very, very stupid.
Magna stupid.
Incredi-stupid.
straitroad
February 8th, 2013
8:12 am
Yet again Jay is critical and encourages personal attacks on someone with whom he disagrees, typical of the “tolerant” left. I’m no great fan of McCain, but I doubt he will lose sleep over what Jay or any number of dependents think of him.
Granny Godzilla
February 8th, 2013
8:15 am
who needs encouragement?
We’re talking John McCain…..
Finn McCool (The System isn't Broken; It's Fixed)
February 8th, 2013
8:15 am
Regarding the USPS:
So we will be the first generation to drop the ball on postal service? We are the first generation that can’t manage its finances in such a way as to keep a popular service going?
And yet we are such scaredy cats that we have to have a military that costs more than the next 28 countries combined? This Postal Service has been going on since 1775.
This isn’t God’s country. This is a country of weasels who would prefer to add one more dollar to their pockets than provide health care to the poor. I think the forefathers would have pulled the plug on this shipwreck twenty years ago.
kayaker 71
February 8th, 2013
8:17 am
“Angry and embittered”, my achin’ arse. McCain is just trying to get some answers to a tragic event that was handled with sophomoric efficiency by an inept team of State Dept personnel. Unlike Fast and Furious, Bozo can’t hide behind Executive Privilege. The facts are all out there for everyone to see. Hillary and others in State, along with Bozo and his gang of thieves screwed up. McCain just wants some answers to some very simple questions and he’s not getting them. That would make anyone “angry and embittered”.
Corbin Sharpe. I think, therefore I am...I think.
February 8th, 2013
8:19 am
Finn McCool (The System isn’t Broken; It’s Fixed)
February 8th, 2013
8:15 am
A HEARTY BRAVO!!!
Finn McCool (The System isn't Broken; It's Fixed)
February 8th, 2013
8:20 am
his status as a war hero
War hero? WTF? He got shot down and went to prison! I don’t think you understand the definition of “hero”. A lot of guys got shot down and ended up in prison camps. What does that entail that leads you to think of them as heroes? Did he put his life in jeopardy to save a bunch of other lives? Did he ever put the lives of others first ahead of his own?
By calling John McCain a “hero” you diminish the term as applied to thousands of others who served in our military and are able to rightfully claim the title.
Granny Godzilla
February 8th, 2013
8:20 am
Kayaker 71
If he wanted answers he should have not skipped the classified briefing…
It was his job to be there.
kayaker 71
February 8th, 2013
8:21 am
McCool, 8:20,
Tell us about your military service.
Finn McCool (The System isn't Broken; It's Fixed)
February 8th, 2013
8:23 am
Remember, McCain got into Annapolis because his father and grandfather went there. McAin graduated near the bottom of his class. McCain was passed over for military advancement because the Admirals realized he was inept. Then the country passed him over for President because we saw he was inept.
He’s an inept, angry, bitter old man. Case closed.
kayaker 71
February 8th, 2013
8:25 am
McCool,
We’re waiting.
Corbin Sharpe. I think, therefore I am...I think.
February 8th, 2013
8:26 am
Kayaker,
You are just belly aching. You know as well as anyone that there was no time to respond without prior warning. We had nothing of value near enough to save lives, period, You want to blame the President and Hillary, fine, blame them but admit that you are blaming them because you don’t like them and what they stand for, and not for anything they could have or have not done. The truth is, was and forever will be that there was no time to save anyone, period!
Escaped from Email Purgatory
February 8th, 2013
8:26 am
@Finn McCool
Your brief treatise on the definition of ‘Hero’ is probably one of the stupidest things I’ve ever read in my life – and I subscribed to Newsweek for years.
That’s pitiful. You dont like McCain, fine. But don’t attempt to diminish his service to his country – you’re embarrassing yourself.
Corbin Sharpe. I think, therefore I am...I think.
February 8th, 2013
8:27 am
Kayaker,
I’ll tell you about my 23 years in the Navy when you tell us about yours…fair?
Finn McCool (The System isn't Broken; It's Fixed)
February 8th, 2013
8:27 am
Hero:
noun, plural he•roes; for 5 also he•ros.
1.a man of distinguished courage or ability, admired for his bravedeeds and noble qualities.
2. A person who, in the opinion of others, has heroic qualities orhas performed a heroic act and is regarded as a model or ideal:He was a local hero when he saved the drowning child.
3. the principal male character in a story, play, film, etc.
4. Classical Mythology .
a. a being of godlike prowess and beneficence who often cameto be honored as a divinity.
b. (in the Homeric period) a warrior-chieftain of specialstrength, courage, or ability.
c. (in later antiquity) an immortal being; demigod.
5. hero sandwich.
McCain is number 5 above.
stands for decibels
February 8th, 2013
8:28 am
my achin’ arse
Say it loud
I’m butthurt and I’m proud
Finn McCool (The System isn't Broken; It's Fixed)
February 8th, 2013
8:30 am
So i guess the authorities overlooked McCain when they were passing out the Congressional Medal of Honor?
I mean, he saved countless lives by giving his own. His actions turned the tide of many battles. He rescued slews of other American soldiers.
TaxPayer
February 8th, 2013
8:30 am
I see all of the truth about McCain bothers some of our cons. Apparently cons are not interested in all of the truth.
kayaker 71
February 8th, 2013
8:31 am
Corbin, 8:27,
We’ll get to you in a minute. Just waiting for our armchair military expert to own up.
indigo
February 8th, 2013
8:32 am
escaped – 8:02
Those exact same words can be used to describe 9/11.
Odd, 4 get killed and cons are filled with righetous indignation.
3,000 get killed and all we hear from cons is THUNDERING SILENCE.
Granny Godzilla
February 8th, 2013
8:33 am
K71
“Just waiting for our armchair military expert to own up”.
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So you have abdicated?
Stevie Ray..Clowns to the left and Jokers to the right..here I am...
February 8th, 2013
8:33 am
JAY
The easiest way to get under you and other Libs skin is to say the word “Benghazi”. So what, your guy has a blemish on his record…the way this was handled after the fact was a mistake…we will never know if anything could have been done in advance to preclude the killings, but the way your guy and his posse handle this thing after the fact, raised legitimate suspicions.
Mick
February 8th, 2013
8:34 am
yaker
Anybody remember that summer memo to the president that said, “bin laden determined to attack in america?” The attorney general certainly took it seriously and stopped flying on commercial flights. Which in your opinion was a more lethal attack???
indigo
February 8th, 2013
8:36 am
kayaker 71 – 8:21
That is known as a non sequitur.
Finn McCool (The System isn't Broken; It's Fixed)
February 8th, 2013
8:37 am
Duke Cunningham is a hero cause he shot down the North Vitnamese ace pilot (13 aerial kills) and kept him from killing more Americans. And that guy went on to resign from Congress due to scandal. He is still a hero.
What exactly did McCain do to earn respect in his military service? Huh? Nada?
Finn McCool (The System isn't Broken; It's Fixed)
February 8th, 2013
8:38 am
“Benghazi”. So what, your guy has a blemish on his record
Better a 4 body blemish than a 3,000 body blemish?
Keep Up the Good Fight!
February 8th, 2013
8:40 am
And Stevie drives to the net of absurdity conspiracy with a blame Obama and others for their paranoia only to be stopped again by a lack of facts and evidence.
Sorry Stevie
Stevie Ray..Clowns to the left and Jokers to the right..here I am...
February 8th, 2013
8:41 am
indigo
February 8th, 2013
8:32 am
The distinctions between those two events and your stated position couldn’t be more absurd. Why don’t you take a moment and compare and contrast the differences between the two events.
IMO, the issue here is that the administration actions after the event will forever appear disingenuous. This raised legitimate suspicions especially given the timing….it did happen on 911 so any suggestion it was ever a spontaneous event that just fortuitously happened on that particular date and in the 9th inning of an election year followed by blatant communication blunders, most rushed so quickly in a “don’t blame us” fashion we have come to expect, is at a minimum optical issue.
Why so defensive?
Mick
February 8th, 2013
8:42 am
**The easiest way to get under you and other Libs skin is to say the word “Benghazi”. **
Actually, it’s not that way at all, rather the opposite. Benghazi, the battle cry for the right just shows how far they need to reach to fabricate an event into something it wasn’t, a fool’s errand…
Finn McCool (The System isn't Broken; It's Fixed)
February 8th, 2013
8:43 am
Donald Trump weighs in: “Karl Rove is a total loser”
Your leaders are slamming your other leaders. when will all the angry bitterness subside?
DannyX
February 8th, 2013
8:43 am
“The easiest way to get under you and other Libs skin is to say the word “Benghazi”.”
Are you serious??? We mostly mock the Republican/Fox News attempt to blow this whole thing out of proportion.
BENGHAZI!!!
DownInAlbany
February 8th, 2013
8:44 am
Corbin Sharpe. I think, therefore I am…I think.
February 8th, 2013
8:26 am
General Dempsey, Chair of the Joint Chiefs, told the Senate today that the intelligence in the region and the amount of attacks prior to the attack on the US Special Mission in Benghazi, Libya, should have made it “crystal clear” to everyone involved that an attack on the annex was “imminent.”
Naw, there was no time to save anyone…
Finn McCool (The System isn't Broken; It's Fixed)
February 8th, 2013
8:45 am
it did happen on 911
Which would be any other day of the year if it wasn’t for the incompetent in office 11 years prior?
Finn McCool (The System isn't Broken; It's Fixed)
February 8th, 2013
8:47 am
I watched Robin Meade this morning and didn’t hear any mention of Benghazi.
Of course she was wearing a very tight black sweater so I suppose any number of things probably got past me.
ITS ALL BUSH'S FAULT
February 8th, 2013
8:47 am
Mclame is a hypocrite double talking panderer , he fits right in with the GOP.
Escaped from Email Purgatory
February 8th, 2013
8:48 am
@indigo -
I agree the hearings are largely political. Hence the reference to them in my earlier comments as a “circus”.
McCain – and others are posturing – or flailing away wildly trying to land a punch.
The wheels are off the GOP wagon. Enjoy it while it lasts.
My point was that you rarely hear liberals lament the Benghazi tragedy. But the unbecoming behavior of some Republicans attempting to exploit it for any political capital it might yield seems to be a subject of your never-ending derision and even a source of joy.
DownInAlbany
February 8th, 2013
8:50 am
Finn McCool (The System isn’t Broken; It’s Fixed)
February 8th, 2013
8:47 am
Of course she was wearing a very tight black sweater so I suppose any number of things probably got past me.
On this we can agree!
Redcoat
February 8th, 2013
8:51 am
And from the media……..cover, explanations, and attacks ? Benghazi…….? water-boarding vs lethal drones….? gun control……? immigration…….? bailouts…..? healthcare…..? economy…..? jobs……? unemployment……? tax increases……..? government spending and debt limits……….? ……..
DannyX
February 8th, 2013
8:52 am
“But the unbecoming behavior of some Republicans attempting to exploit it for any political capital it might yield seems to be a subject of your never-ending derision and even a source of joy.”
That is one of the best examples of twisted logic I have ever seen on this blog.
Stevie Ray..Clowns to the left and Jokers to the right..here I am...
February 8th, 2013
8:52 am
Finn McCool (The System isn’t Broken; It’s Fixed)
February 8th, 2013
8:38 am
Can you please offer some cogent comparisons between the two events that warrant naming the two in same sentence?
Are you really suggesting that it was Bush’s fault that 911 occurred?
That wasn’t his fault any more than Benghazi was your hero’s fault. The difference is in the latter, an election was in play and the “optics’ created post event raised legitimate concerns….
Keep Up the Good Fight!
February 8th, 2013
8:53 am
My point was that you rarely hear liberals lament the Benghazi tragedy
kayaker 71
February 8th, 2013
8:53 am
Hey, McCool. So, tell us about your service to our country aside from being the expert on all things military. Viet Nam? Iraq? Afghanistan? Give us a run down, my man. You can thank McCain and guys like him that you even maintain the right to make stupid, asinine statements like you continue to do.
curious
February 8th, 2013
8:53 am
If anybody is to blame, it’s Ambassador Wilson. He was in country, in charge, and responsible for his personnel and facilities.
He put himself and others in harm’s way when he, above all, should have recognized the significance of the 9/11 anniversary. A prudent person would have maintained a low profile that day.
A more important question is how did the attackers know Ambassador Wilson was in Benghazi or was it just his bad fortune to be there that day.
Many posters here are just consumed by dislike of the administration and are about as senile as John McCain.
Finn McCool (The System isn't Broken; It's Fixed)
February 8th, 2013
8:54 am
On “Diversion of Public Funds [due to corruption],” the U.S. ranks #34. On “Public Trust in Politicians,” we are #54. On “Irregular Payments and Bribes,” we are #42. On “Judicial Independence,” we are #38. On “Favoritism in Decisions of Government Officials” (otherwise known as governmental cronyism), we are #59.
On letting our bankers lie, cheat, and abuse us and then letting them rape and pillage our savings and retirement accounts while claiming they can’t be prosecuted we are #1.
Thomas
February 8th, 2013
8:54 am
http://cynthiatucker.com/2013/01/even-republican-voters-now-ready-to-support-immigration-reform.html
Ms. Tucker writes a column every other week or so generally with no followers.
Please help by logging in occasionally.
I am just here to help.
To all a great Friday. Be careful as carpal tunnel is real and it is lethal.
stands for decibels
February 8th, 2013
8:56 am
You mean like when Hillary cried talking about the families and the losses.
Insufficient grief. Our conservative friends are looking for something more like this, methinks.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pSWN6Qj98Iw
GT
February 8th, 2013
8:56 am
I never hear the question asked of how rag tag armies or gangs can time and time again fend off US troops and wreak havoc as we spend trillions and parade around like we are Hercules.
This is the question McCain should be asking himself. I watch all these boring self important old has been soldiers, who love the image, lay into people for having to defend an atmosphere of anti American across the globe these fantasy warriors have created. The description of shock and aw when what you have done is insight opposition that is willing to blow themselves up and a half dozen with them. The only people scared is us.
Now Mac wants us in Syria? Bud if you want freedom bad enough you don’t need our help, and our money. The real revolutionary forces seem to do just fine wreaking havoc blowing themselves up and making life miserable for all. Why do we need to waste our money on this and then we complain about feeding an American mother. What America need is an adult leadership not a grown man playing army on our dime.
TaxPayer
February 8th, 2013
8:56 am
An election was in play! Mission accomplished.
Stevie Ray..Clowns to the left and Jokers to the right..here I am...
February 8th, 2013
8:57 am
KEEP
McCain needs to exit stage right. The administration, even if they acted differently with threats, wouldn’t have stopped the event. It’s the way they ran the wrong direction with the ball after the fact with suspect timing.
Your all now getting so defensive as to compare this to 2001? Thanks for proving my point. I guess using drones to kill what some hidden committee deems an “imminent” threat a thousand miles away accepting any collateral damage in the process is ok as well.
Finn McCool (The System isn't Broken; It's Fixed)
February 8th, 2013
8:57 am
You can thank McCain and guys like him
Do you thank the guys who turned yellow in the face of battle just as mush as you thank the guys who gave their lives to save others?
It sounds like you do. I have to question your judgement on everything else you write based on this inability to distinguish between a “hero” and a service member.
Keep Up the Good Fight!
February 8th, 2013
8:57 am
K71: You can thank McCain and guys like him that you even maintain the right to make stupid, asinine statements like you continue to do.
Well now there we have the explanation for why making stupid and asinine statements is the forte of the conned. They have someone to thank.
Finn McCool (The System isn't Broken; It's Fixed)
February 8th, 2013
8:58 am
An election was in play! Mission accomplished.
So, if Benghazi hadn’t of happened Obama would have handed Mittens an even bigger arse whippin?
LOL.
Escaped from Email Purgatory
February 8th, 2013
8:59 am
@DannyX
Please enlighten me. I’m willing to learn.
RB from Gwinnett
February 8th, 2013
9:00 am
Well, it looks like we learned yesterday that after hearing of the consulate attack, our great leader Obama was so concerned for the lives of the people there he went to bed and never even asked for an update on what was happening.
But it OK, right liberals? Because he has a D by his name, he can do no wrong, and those weren’t your family members being attacked.
I’ll bet every last dam one of you liberals would be hiring a lawyer if your kid called 911 and some police chief took the same approach to saving them this administration took in Benghazi. Every last dam one of you.
Finn McCool (The System isn't Broken; It's Fixed)
February 8th, 2013
9:00 am
GT, we spend more on military than the next 28 countries combined, we’ve been fighting wars for 11 straight years, and yet we haven’t won a single war since 1945.
Go figure.
Stevie Ray..Clowns to the left and Jokers to the right..here I am...
February 8th, 2013
9:00 am
GT
February 8th, 2013
8:56 am
Great point about McCain. Anyone who wants to send our troops into harms way based on anything that is currently happening in this world has screws loose or is in line for a lobbyist position with the defense department. Heck, we can’t even cut 5% out of the DoD less we become an easy target…
We are a warmongering nation…..
Joe Hussein Mama
February 8th, 2013
9:01 am
So this morning, on the Shut Up, Mika program, Senator Angus King of Maine brought up the same idea I posted a couple of days ago.
Have something akin to the FISA Courts where the administration can go and present their evidence against a citizen-allegedly-turned-terrorist that they want to target. If the court says yes, then said civilian can be targeted. If the court says no, then the individual cannot be directly or indirectly targeted (e.g. administration can’t bypass by targeting the guy’s radio operator/driver/cook/whatever).
This is what is done for secret wiretapping.
TBone
February 8th, 2013
9:01 am
Angry, old white RINOs, is that all you got? Why not cover the weather because Lord knows there is not anything meaningful going on in the world today.
Finn McCool (The System isn't Broken; It's Fixed)
February 8th, 2013
9:02 am
RB thinks Obama could have hopped on a plane, flown to Benghazi, and saved those 4 people?
kayaker 71
February 8th, 2013
9:02 am
Well, it looks like our war hero certainly does no pan out to be McCool. Just some liberal blowhard with an axe to grind. Reminds me of a certain guy who occupies government housing on PA avenue.
Corbin Sharpe. I think, therefore I am...I think.
February 8th, 2013
9:03 am
DownInAlbany
February 8th, 2013
8:44 am
What the General said is like saying, “since it rained here yesterday, a thunderstorm is imminent today.
Like I said, you President Obama haters are not going to warp facts enough to convince anyone but yourselves.
Brosephus™
February 8th, 2013
9:05 am
Of course she was wearing a very tight black sweater so I suppose any number of things probably got past me.
Well damn… Just make me feel bad for not watching tv this morning.
Markoo
February 8th, 2013
9:05 am
Granny, if you don’t recall McCain disagreeing with Bush your head must be stuck up something, maybe a part of someone’s anatomy. Maybe try Google since your memory is lacking..
Stevie Ray..Clowns to the left and Jokers to the right..here I am...
February 8th, 2013
9:06 am
Can anyone explain why this guy panetta claims a 60 billion cut (more like 10% I think) will have “catastrophic” impact on security and the like?
The Truth
February 8th, 2013
9:07 am
Where are the Benghazi truther Cons? I guess they won’t be coming around these parts since their conspiracy theories surrounding the Benghazi incident have been widely debunked by the military. So sad…
Vet
February 8th, 2013
9:07 am
Can’t blame McCain for being mad…most Americans know that this Benghazi attack is a bigger coverup than Watergate! Americans died while Obama slept thaat night in his cozy DC bed! Obama is more arrogant than Nixon ever was! The national news is a disgrace for covering this up and protecting the Chosen one! Most Americans in the know are mad and want justice!!
indigo
February 8th, 2013
9:08 am
Stevie Ray – 8:41
Conservatives say Benghazi was cause by Government infighting and incompetence.
Apparently, you don’t know that the same has been said about 9/11.
http://abcnews.go.com/WNT/story?id=129135&page=1
DannyX
February 8th, 2013
9:09 am
“Can’t blame McCain for being mad…most Americans know that this Benghazi attack is a bigger coverup than Watergate!”
Fox News viewership does not equal most Americans.
RB from Gwinnett
February 8th, 2013
9:09 am
“RB thinks Obama could have hopped on a plane, flown to Benghazi, and saved those 4 people?”
An idiotic comment from an idiot with his head up Obama’s arse. Geez….
Finn McCool (The System isn't Broken; It's Fixed)
February 8th, 2013
9:09 am
Just make me feel bad for not watching tv this morning
I had to drag my son to school. I don’t think he even knows that he got dressed this morning.
My wife was rather embarrassed for us – but we don’t go that gagagoogoo very often.
Brosephus™
February 8th, 2013
9:10 am
Can anyone explain why this guy panetta claims a 60 billion cut (more like 10% I think) will have “catastrophic” impact on security and the like?
Thanks to the “genius” of the DC crowd, the group that doesn’t like federal workers have managed to get lots of things contracted out to defense contractors. Sometimes, these things are kinda essential to the operations of our people in uniform. Making those cuts will likely lead to cuts in contracting staff which may impact operations of those in uniform.
For some odd reason, instead of cutting out unwanted and/or unneeded weapons systems, those cuts will probably come from payroll and other things.
Mind you, that’s just my viewpoint, and it may not be the motivations or observations of Panetta.
DownInAlbany
February 8th, 2013
9:10 am
Corbin Sharpe. I think, therefore I am…I think.
February 8th, 2013
9:03 am
DownInAlbany
February 8th, 2013
8:44 am
What the General said is like saying, “since it rained here yesterday, a thunderstorm is imminent today.
Like I said, you President Obama haters are not going to warp facts enough to convince anyone but yourselves.
No, what he was saying was, any idiot would have known that an attack was about to take place. IF they had paid attention. I don’t hate, President Obama, but, I know when someone’s pissing on my boot and telling me that it’s raining. Unlike you, I don’t tow the party line.
Finn McCool (The System isn't Broken; It's Fixed)
February 8th, 2013
9:11 am
I want to see Benghazi’s birth certificate, k? I think it was born in Africa.
Brosephus™
February 8th, 2013
9:11 am
Finn
JamVet
February 8th, 2013
9:12 am
There is some probability that the administration mishandled certain aspects of this tragedy. Most pro-war administrations generally do. But what is much more significant was the hateful, anti-American over-reaction of the die hard Republicans.
IMO, there is little doubt that Romney’s depraved response to the unfolding situation was the straw that broke his spineless back. And why he got annihilated in the most recent election.
That the cons here continue to run with his disgusting sentiment is mere evidence that the hyper-desperate for a win GOP is imploding right before our eyes.
Neoconservatism is dead. And it’s irrational fanatics are the being drowned in a bathtub of their own making.
Keep Up the Good Fight!
February 8th, 2013
9:14 am
Wwell you know that we have a government that can ONLY be managed by one person, the President. No one else is apparently competent to make decisions. Only the President. Much in the same way that CEOs make daily decisions about plant manufacturing operations and signs for all deliveries.
Personally, I don’t know if the President went to bed and what was already set. I do know that there are people that can wake him up if there is a critical decision needed and that there are lots of tasks to perform daily and as President of the country, there are many daily critical issues that require a great deal of attention. So yes, I hope that after making appropriate decisions regarding events and discussing it with his team, he got rest so that he could deal the next day. So pizza boy and others can have their silly fits of Chicken Little rage, once again, as they have so many times before.
Morality?
February 8th, 2013
9:14 am
After Obama and his #1 adviser Nanny Pelosi take YOU over the FISCAL CLIFF will you still be smiling or will you join McCain in the unhappy at the gub’ment club?
Morality?
February 8th, 2013
9:16 am
Obama was working on “important” issues like homosexual marriage and legalized drugs….. ain’t got time for little things like Benghazi.
Brosephus™
February 8th, 2013
9:18 am
banker Sheetzzzz!!!!!!
Granny Godzilla
February 8th, 2013
9:18 am
Markoo
February 8th, 2013
9:05 am
Granny, if you don’t recall McCain disagreeing with Bush your head must be stuck up something, maybe a part of someone’s anatomy. Maybe try Google since your memory is lacking..
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I did google it, and posted what I found…
and you?
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Mick
February 8th, 2013
9:19 am
morality
Yeah, like mcconnell and boehner have been taking us anywhere besides obstuction…