The increasingly angry, embittered John McCain
In the video below, Sen. John McCain demonstrates his version of respect for the uniform as he responds to testimony by Gen. Martin Dempsey, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, regarding the inability of the U.S. military to respond in time to the Benghazi attacks. As McCain sees, Dempsey’s testimony was “one of the more bizarre statements I have ever seen” and “simply false”. In other words, the general was lying under oath to a congressional committee:
“I stand by my testimony, your dispute of it notwithstanding,” Dempsey responded afterward.
Defense Secretary Leon Panetta backed up Dempsey’s statement before the Senate Armed Services Committee. As Tom Curry of NBC News reports:
“In his testimony, Panetta said the Department of Defense and U.S. armed forces “did all that we could do in response to the attacks in Benghazi.” He explained that “armed UAVs (unmanned aerial vehicles, or drones), AC-130 gunships, or fixed-wing fighters with the associated tanking – you’ve got to provide air re-fueling– armaments – you’ve got to arm all the weapons before you put them on the planes” — were not in the vicinity of Libya.
He said that even if he’d been able to deploy F-16 fighters or AC-130 gunships over Benghazi in time, “the mission still depends on accurate information about what targets they’re supposed to hit. And we had no forward air controllers there” and no communications with U.S. personnel on the ground.
He said, “because of the distance, it would have taken at least 9 to 12 hours, if not more, to deploy these forces to Benghazi. This was, pure and simple, — in the absence as I said of any kind of advance warning — a problem of distance and time.”
Panetta also pointed out that the two attacks in Benghazi were relatively brief, and occurred six hours apart. “We were not dealing with a prolonged or continuous assault which could have been brought to an end by a U.S. military response,” Panetta said.
According to Richard Sisk of military.com, McCain wasn’t alone in pressing the case:
“Other Republicans on the committee joined McCain in questioning why the military didn’t send F16s or AC-130 gunships to drive off the terrorists attacking Benghazi, but Dempsey and Defense Secretary Leon Panetta, who also testified, said there simply wasn’t time and they lacked the intelligence to mount an effective response.
Dempsey said there wasn’t an AC-130 gunship within 1,000 miles of Benghazi and the nearest F16s at a base in Aviano, Italy, were not on standby alert and would not have reached Benghzi in time.
Panetta added that “you can’t just willy-nilly send F16s there and blow the hell out of a place without knowing what’s taking place.”
It would be nice if the world were as simple and uncomplicated as McCain prefers to it be, if intervention were possible merely because he wants it to be possible, if technicalities such as time and space could be waved away merely by his own insistence that they are unimportant.
We do not live in such a world, although McCain increasingly appears to believe that he does.
– Jay Bookman
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Recon 0311 2533
February 7th, 2013
7:55 pm
JOHN MCCAIN………WHAT A HYPOCRITE
I’ll bet he’s served and suffered doing so far beyond anything you’ve ever done. Feel free to discuss your service to the country.
Uh Huh....Were we attacked on 9/11? What did John McCain Do?
February 7th, 2013
7:56 pm
@Recon 0311 2533
February 7th, 2013
7:32 pm
The most disgusting part was when asked about Obama and the state departments follow ups for updated status reports on what was going on they had to admit under oath that there were no follow ups. An impeachable condition in my opinion.
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You CONS are the same people who WANTED Mitt Romney to be President
and Sarah Palin to be Vice President.
An impeachable condition in my opinion.
heeheeheeheeheeheeheeheeheehee
TaxPayer
February 7th, 2013
7:58 pm
It is sad watching the gop desperately trying to be right about something.
Au contraire. It is sad watching the gop desperately refuse to even try to be right about anything.
Recon 0311 2533
February 7th, 2013
7:59 pm
heeheeheeheeheeheeheeheeheehee
Now that only puts your ignorance on display. Try to grow up.
JamVet
February 7th, 2013
8:01 pm
“It is time for a younger generation of politicians.”
So what ever happened to all of those young “rising stars” in the GOP we were being told about a few years ago?
Did they all get lost on the Appalachian Trail? (grin)
Uh Huh....Were we attacked on 9/11? What did John McCain Do?
February 7th, 2013
8:02 pm
@Recon 0311 2533
February 7th, 2013
7:55 pm
JOHN MCCAIN………WHAT A HYPOCRITE
I’ll bet he’s served and suffered doing so far beyond anything you’ve ever done. Feel free to discuss your service to the country.
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“served and suffered”
That the cost of war.
That does not give him a LICENSE to take it out on U,S. citizens.
TruthBTold: John McCain is angry at HIMSELF for picking the
dumbest woman (Sarah Palin) in america to be his RUNNING MATE.
John McCain needs to MAN-UP and MOVE-ON.
Serious Robuck
February 7th, 2013
8:02 pm
Recon, I think you’re really td.
kayaker 71
February 7th, 2013
8:02 pm
Dempsey couldn’t shine McCain’s shoes. Dempsey is a Bozo lackey who preaches the liberal line to the point of being almost comical. McCain is just doing his job, nothing more. This “over the hill, white, aging”, war hero is so far above the average liberal nutcase so as to not even make it a case. People like Bookman would not understand as would most of you liberal arm chair soldiers who don’t have a clue as to what McCain endured. Over five years. In that slop filled hovel they call a prison, beaten on a daily basis, starved, tortured to the point of madness…… and you friggin’ liberals have all the answers. Bookman, you should be ashamed of yourself, being the son of a career AF veteran. You are hopeless.
комиссар (Occupation)
February 7th, 2013
8:03 pm
Jay: “The posturing is incredibly cynical.”
Of course, if you’re going to point that out every time that’s displayed on these boards, you’re never going to get another column written.
Seriously Folks
February 7th, 2013
8:05 pm
See Recon, really hard for folks to “respect the office” when on one hand you and posters like you come up with “sophmoric” names for the duly elected President of United States, and when people on the other side call names of a sitting United States Senator, you get bent out of shape.
For me, I completely disagree with McCain’s politics, his wishy-washy stance on things, his complete selling out to keep himself in office…but yes, the man served with dignity, honor and his service is not to be ridiculed. However, his actions, his votes, and his stances on matter of keeping our Republic a functioning democracy are by no means to be treated with “kid gloves” because of his service.
TaxPayer
February 7th, 2013
8:05 pm
Despair not, cons. You only have FOUR MORE YEARS, until we elect Hillary so she can rub your failure to fund security for Benghazi in your faces for EIGHT MORE YEARS.
Uh Huh....Were we attacked on 9/11? What did John McCain Do?
February 7th, 2013
8:05 pm
@Recon 0311 2533
February 7th, 2013
7:59 pm
heeheeheeheeheeheeheeheeheehee
Now that only puts your ignorance on display. Try to grow up.
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Vice President SARAH PALIN for PRESIDENT 2016
heeheeheeheeheeheeheeheehee
kayaker 71
February 7th, 2013
8:09 pm
One more thing….. the majority of you liberal girly boys wouldn’t have lasted two days, much less five years.
Recon 0311 2533
February 7th, 2013
8:10 pm
heeheeheeheeheeheeheeheehee
You’re absolutely correct, I should have also included your immaturity.
Uh Huh....Were we attacked on 9/11? What did John McCain Do?
February 7th, 2013
8:11 pm
@kayaker 71
February 7th, 2013
8:02 pm
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Do we blame the torture John McCain received on his MENTAL LAPSE
when he PICKED SARAH PALIN as his running mate?
What other MENTAL LAPSES can we blame of his MILITARY SERVICE?
HUH?
saywhat?
February 7th, 2013
8:13 pm
kayaker 71
February 7th, 2013
8:09 pm
One more thing….. the majority of you liberal girly boys wouldn’t have lasted two days, much less five years.
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I would have lasted 10 or 20 decades, because I’m awesome, even for a liberal.
What’s next? Do we whip it out and compare?
Jimiz_1
February 7th, 2013
8:13 pm
Look people its not the darn congress that is at fault. They very well may not have voted to allocate more money for defence. But there is no information that they wanted to cut funds totally. What happen was the white house pulled our security team out and replaced them with people from there instead.” Big mistake” They didn’t have to add more they just needed to keep what they had and i think it would have been a different situation.
The Pentagon was incharge of that not the congress because ambassador Stevens and others made several attempts to ask them to be able to keep the American forces there. This started in June or July i think when the same building was attacked. The terrorist blew a massive hole in the reinforced concrete wall. But Obama did nothing even though he knew 9/11 was right around the corner he knew that there should have been a stronger force for this occasion. He did nothing in the face of terrorism he did nothing to stop it plain and simple. If this were a republican you libs would be ready to burn them down.
DownInAlbany
February 7th, 2013
8:14 pm
Serious Robuck
February 7th, 2013
7:45 pm
No matter how many houses he owns…no matter that he has a rich, beautiful and inexplicably loyal wife, McCain is a bonafide, certified loser
Yeah, he’s a loser alright. He virtually lost the use of his arms in the Hanoi Hilton. On one hand ya’ll get on him for the lack of respect he showed and you do the same in the next breath…
Uh Huh....Were we attacked on 9/11? What did John McCain Do?
February 7th, 2013
8:18 pm
@kayaker 71
February 7th, 2013
8:09 pm
One more thing….. the majority of you liberal girly boys wouldn’t have lasted two days, much less five years.
@Recon 0311 2533
February 7th, 2013
8:10 pm
heeheeheeheeheeheeheeheehee
You’re absolutely correct, I should have also included your immaturity.
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I betcha when McCain was CAPTURED he was not the BULLY YOU SEE
TODAY.
He needs to act with DIGNITY, HUMILITY and INTRIGRITY.
He needs to be thankful for the blessing that he made it out
He CAN’T keep PLAYING the WOUNDED WARRIOR card
FOREVER.
STEP aside John soldiers are RETURNING from war in far
worse condition.
MAN-UP.
alive.
Recon 0311 2533
February 7th, 2013
8:18 pm
The far-left girly men depend on those who’re far better men to defend this republic but unfortunately the girly men are becoming a majority.
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
February 7th, 2013
8:21 pm
1) What Jay fails to address (and Senator McCain brought out) was not so much what “should” have been done at the time but what “could” have been done had adequate security on the ground and/or adequate PREPOSITIONED forces been in place and ready to go.
This was a MASSIVE failure on the part of those in charge for not being prepared BEFOREHAND knowing what danger our people were in. It would be similar to sending the President out with inadequate Secret Service personnel and then saying, “well, we had lot’s more but we couldn’t get them there in time.”
Well, DUH ! That should have been allowed for by GETTING THEM CLOSER to start with !
2) But all of that aside, we know it wasn’t a TERRORIST attack anyway. Jay said so.
saywhat?
February 7th, 2013
8:22 pm
Recon 0311 2533
February 7th, 2013
8:18 pm
The far-left girly men depend on those who’re far better men to defend this republic but unfortunately the girly men are becoming a majority.
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What about the gay men and women now defending this republic? Where do they fit in to this fascinatingly simplistic scenario?
Uh Huh....Were we attacked on 9/11? What did John McCain Do?
February 7th, 2013
8:23 pm
@Recon 0311 2533
February 7th, 2013
8:18 pm
The far-left girly men depend on those who’re far better men to defend this republic but unfortunately the girly men are becoming a majority.
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“girly men are becoming a majority.”
As a man thinketh SO IS HE.
kayaker 71
February 7th, 2013
8:23 pm
Uh…. Huh, 8:11,
Ever made a mistake? Palin wasn’t best choice and he has admitted that since 2008. You must have never done something that you would like to take back, now have you? Never made a bad decision? so you can pile it on to this national hero who spent his time standing up for something besides some kind of dinky liberal spin that gets us nowhere. He and others have described some things while at the Hilton that were almost unbelievable. I have seen some of these patients who were tortured on a regular basis for longer than a year or so. It fu*ks with your mind, not to mention your body. One favorite was to spread the legs of a prisoner and take a simple bamboo shoot which is stiff and somewhat flexible and flip it into the testicles. Doing this for about an hour and you will tell them anything they want to know. Ever see a scrotum that is three times the normal size? How about the same technique on the bottom of someone’s feet. It makes the feet swell about twice their normal size and prisoners have to crawl to some clay pot to defecate because they can’t walk. Day after day, the same thing. For weeks, months and years. How long could you take it, uH Huh? I think I have the answer. McCain is twice the man you and I will ever be.
TaxPayer
February 7th, 2013
8:24 pm
All this talk of girly boys and girly men coming from the cons. Oh my! Is that tap dancing I hear.
Doggone/GA
February 7th, 2013
8:26 pm
“All this talk of girly boys and girly men coming from the cons”
Wonder if there are any Log Cabin Republicans “listening”?
Recon 0311 2533
February 7th, 2013
8:27 pm
Where do they fit in to this fascinatingly simplistic scenario?
saywhat, if you’re one of the they, please tell me. When I served 1961-1967 no one who I can recall discussed their sexuality. Why is it important now?
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
February 7th, 2013
8:27 pm
Seriously Folks:
“See Recon, really hard for folks to “respect the office” when on one hand you and posters like you come up with “sophmoric” names for the duly elected President of United States …. ”
Maybe you should tell Luckovich to stop drawing those “sophmoric” cartoons about conservatives ???
I’s called “satire” and totally acceptable in print, in videos, in political cartoons and on this blog.
However, if a president (or anyone worthy of respect) is met in person he/she should be addressed and treated as such.
saywhat?
February 7th, 2013
8:27 pm
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
February 7th, 2013
8:21 pm
1) What Jay fails to address (and Senator McCain brought out) was not so much what “should” have been done at the time but what “could” have been done had adequate security on the ground and/or adequate PREPOSITIONED forces been in place and ready to go.
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Ohhhhhhh. I understand now. Like Bush did before 9/11, right?
Josef
February 7th, 2013
8:28 pm
Del/recon is the kind who gives closet cases a bad name…
комиссар (Occupation)
February 7th, 2013
8:28 pm
So, the frightening wild-eyed ‘liberal’ president sure does have one conservative heavyweight thinker in his corner on drones.
http://twitchy.com/2013/02/06/liberal-drone-david-frum-frets-over-president-obamas-heavy-heavy-burden/
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Here is what I wrote in September 2011 about a drone strike:
Obama’s far left flank will be unhappy if the mission to kill Awlaki, an American citizen, was successful. They will again decry such drone strikes against American citizens as unprecedented and lawless.
On this, I will come to Obama’s defense.
Awlaki’s membership and leadership in al Qaeda is undisputed.
We are at war.
The Supreme Court set the precedent for Obama’s and our military’s actions in 1942.
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DownInAlbany
February 7th, 2013
8:28 pm
How does this play into the lib talking points?
General Dempsey, Chair of the Joint Chiefs, told the Senate today that the intelligence in the region and the amount of attacks prior to the attack on the US Special Mission in Benghazi, Libya, should have made it “crystal clear” to everyone involved that an attack on the annex was “imminent.”
Doggone/GA
February 7th, 2013
8:28 pm
“When I served 1961-1967 no one who I can recall discussed their sexuality”
Nah, they just dicussed the sexuality of “those” other people
Jackie
February 7th, 2013
8:30 pm
@jimiz_1
I am back and saw where you posted the information about your Native American heritage.
The only thing I can say to that is, OK! If you believe it so do I.
Secondly, you statement about the Pentagon being in charge is another fantasy. If they do not have the money to fly the planes and sail the ships, what choices do they have in offering protection to any embassy anywhere?
Did you know that the Marines that are stationed at embassies are there primarily to protect the written material so that it gets destroyed first? Then, they try to protect the embassy. The USA has contracted out most of the security work to private agencies. If they do not get paid, they do not work, bottom line!!!!!!
F. Sinkwich
February 7th, 2013
8:30 pm
“All this talk of girly boys and girly men coming from the cons.”
Actually, I think the correct spelling is GIRLIE.
See O’bozo, Preezy.
Josef
February 7th, 2013
8:31 pm
Kommisar
And his 16 year old son…?
JamVet
February 7th, 2013
8:31 pm
Sure seems to be a lot of recently new found respect for John McCain among the crowd that absolutely vilified him in 2000. Things that make you go hmmmmm…
I remember a time when he stood almost completely alone among Republicans as he called the attacks by Swift Boat Veterans for Bush “dishonest and dishonorable,” and he called on Bush to condemn the ad. Of course, George refused to do so.
So, yes, I’ve always cut McCain a lot of slack. Something Bush voters never did…
Recon 0311 2533
February 7th, 2013
8:31 pm
Nah, they just dicussed the sexuality of “those” other people
No we had far more important topics to discuss.
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
February 7th, 2013
8:32 pm
Seriously Folks:
Check out Luckovich’s cartoon for 1/16 !
I think it’s pretty disrespectful to draw those big ears on Obama ……….. don’t you ?
http://blogs.ajc.com/mike-luckovich/page/2/
getalife
February 7th, 2013
8:32 pm
“All this talk of girly boys and girly men coming from the cons.”
They end up busted in bathroom stalls.
saywhat?
February 7th, 2013
8:35 pm
Recon 0311 2533
February 7th, 2013
8:27 pm
Where do they fit in to this fascinatingly simplistic scenario?
saywhat, if you’re one of the they, please tell me. When I served 1961-1967 no one who I can recall discussed their sexuality. Why is it important now?
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Not one of “they”, though not through any choice of my own. It has become important because alternate sexuality is no longer taboo for the majority of society, and because people like you would deny such people the right to serve in the military, along with other rights.
You and Kayaker brought up mention of “liberal girly boys” and “far left liberal girly men”. Why do YOU find it so important to attribute effeminacy to people who don’t agree with you?
Recon 0311 2533
February 7th, 2013
8:37 pm
0311/8541,
Luckovich is a far-left little idiot who has a talent for artistic drawing. Jay is a far-left ___fill in the blanks, who has a talent for cut and paste from his favorite far-left Web sites.
F. Sinkwich
February 7th, 2013
8:38 pm
“I remember a time when he stood almost completely alone among Republicans as he called the attacks by Swift Boat Veterans for Bush “dishonest and dishonorable,” ”
Dude was full of sh*t about that.
So I guess from here to eternity he is full of sh*t about everything and anything he says.
Got it.
Recon 0311 2533
February 7th, 2013
8:40 pm
Why do YOU find it so important to attribute effeminacy to people who don’t agree with you?
Because you would need to be effeminate to disagree with us.
Doggone/GA
February 7th, 2013
8:40 pm
“No we had far more important topics to discuss”
Yeah, right. Every minute of every day and night. Hon, I dated soldiers and sailors and airmen (the advantage of living and going to school near bases) near the end of the time period you listed, and immediately afterwards. I am QUITE familiar with the “more important topics” that were discussed and they give the lie to your dodge of discussing the sexuality of “those” other people.
Serious Robuck
February 7th, 2013
8:41 pm
Down in Albany, I voted for John McCain for President in the California primary in 2000 against your boy W. He was my favorite Republican. Bill Bradley was the Democrat I supported that year, but so much for that.
But McCain, as an elderly cancer survivor, was willing to put this country in the hands of Sarah f>>>king Palin! That erased any respect I had for him forever. And he’s never backed down from that choice. Why don’t you go talk to Saxby Chambliss, one of your heroes, about patriotism and sacrifice, and his campaign against Max? Good riddance.
saywhat?
February 7th, 2013
8:42 pm
Recon 0311 2533 is a far-right little ___fill in the blanks who has no talent for artistic drawing.0311/8541 is a far-right ___fill in the blanks, who has no talent for cut and paste from his favorite far-right Web sites.
See what I did there?
getalife
February 7th, 2013
8:43 pm
“Bill Gates: Government’s Constant Budget Battles Are ‘Absolutely Insane’”
I think it is time to mandate the gop to see a mental health facility.
A report sows ObamaCare is saving billions on drugs for Seniors and working as intended.
You will not see that good news on corporate media.
DownInAlbany
February 7th, 2013
8:43 pm
Serious Robuck
February 7th, 2013
8:41 pm
I’ve never said Chambliss was one of my “heroes” now have I?
JamVet
February 7th, 2013
8:43 pm
The terms dishonest and dishonorable seems to have hit a nerve with one of the swiftboaters.
So McCain is a hero, except for when he speaks out against Republican liars and thugs.
Got it…
DownInAlbany
February 7th, 2013
8:45 pm
DownInAlbany
February 7th, 2013
8:28 pm
How does this play into the lib talking points?
General Dempsey, Chair of the Joint Chiefs, told the Senate today that the intelligence in the region and the amount of attacks prior to the attack on the US Special Mission in Benghazi, Libya, should have made it “crystal clear” to everyone involved that an attack on the annex was “imminent.”
‘Ya got nothing, do you?
billy ray
February 7th, 2013
8:45 pm
The most eye opening info regarding this man is that he was nominated by the Repubs to be the President of the US AND his wonderful judgement in naming Palin to be his VP- AND the Repubs all went misty eyed and said hallelujah. Imagine if this guy were in the WH and his nitwit VP was this close to being our next President.
Doggone/GA
February 7th, 2013
8:47 pm
“Imagine if this guy were in the WH and his nitwit VP was this close to being our next President”
I think it’s pretty obvious that a LOT of people did exactly that.
stands for decibels
February 7th, 2013
8:47 pm
Jay — “Panetta added that “you can’t just willy-nilly send F16s there and blow the hell out of a place without knowing what’s taking place.”
And that’s it in a nutshell. Our cons are apparently butthurt that we *didn’t* do just that.
Yep. Except perhaps for the “apparently” part.
DownInAlbany
February 7th, 2013
8:47 pm
and his nitwit VP was this close to being our next President.
You referring to Biden?
Jackie
February 7th, 2013
8:49 pm
@Sinkwich
Are you saying McCain was wrong when he defended John Kerry against the Swift Boat attacks?
I can tell you personally, I had a high school classmate that was a member of the Mobile Riverine force in Viet Nam who said the brown water navy went into Cambodia frequently.
Ask any other Viet Nam vet here, I think they will tell you they have been to Laos/Cambodia themselves, unofficially.
F. Sinkwich
February 7th, 2013
8:50 pm
“Luckovich is a far-left little idiot who has a talent for artistic drawing.”
I must disagree.
Dead tree version of the AJC now prints Ramirez. His art is extrordinairy. His editorial wit is phenomenal.
When his cartoon is placed next to Luckovich’s, it’s like seeing a Rembrandt next to a steaming turd.
td
February 7th, 2013
8:50 pm
All politics aside for the moment.
This is scary business my friends. As testified today under oath, the Secretary of Defense and the Chairman of the Joint chiefs of staff could not get in touch with the President during the entire time of the raid. How in the hell is it that the two military leaders in this nation does not have 24/7, 365 days per year to the Commander and chief (especially on the anniversary of 911) This is also on the same day that the President had a meeting with the Sec. of Defense earlier because he was concerned over the Egyptian Embassy. One more point why in the hell was not our entire military on high alert on 911?
Recon 0311 2533
February 7th, 2013
8:50 pm
Hon, I dated soldiers and sailors and airmen (the advantage of living and going to school near bases) near the end of the time period you listed,
I’m glad to learn that you did and I’m sure you’re a very attractive woman both then and now. I’m sorry, however, that you didn’t date combat infantry Marines or Marine Corps Recon we could have made your military experience much more memorable.
DownInAlbany
February 7th, 2013
8:51 pm
stands for decibels
February 7th, 2013
8:47 pm
Jay — “Panetta added that “you can’t just willy-nilly send F16s there and blow the hell out of a place without knowing what’s taking place.”
And that’s it in a nutshell. Our cons are apparently butthurt that we *didn’t* do just that.
But, it’s ok to just willy-nilly send drones in to kill folks (including American citizens) and kids and women too! I see…
saywhat?
February 7th, 2013
8:51 pm
Recon 0311 2533
February 7th, 2013
8:40 pm
Why do YOU find it so important to attribute effeminacy to people who don’t agree with you?
Because you would need to be effeminate to disagree with us.
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That could possibly be true, but only if we disagreed over which color of female underthings you both prefer to wear. Put down your purse and wave goodbye now, I’ve got to go home and walk around the house in my boxers, drink a beer or six, while I scratch myself and then eat some manly-man steak and potatoes, (or as Dan Quayle might say, stake and potatos).
Recon 0311 2533
February 7th, 2013
8:51 pm
Recon Marines penetrate deeper. Follow on
F. Sinkwich
February 7th, 2013
8:52 pm
“Are you saying McCain was wrong when he defended John Kerry against the Swift Boat attacks?”
Yep.
Thanks for paying attention.
getalife
February 7th, 2013
8:53 pm
He picked the con palin for the cons to show up and vote.
He knows nothing about our economy like w.
We dodged that bullet.
stands for decibels
February 7th, 2013
8:54 pm
But, it’s ok to just willy-nilly send drones in to kill folks (including American citizens) and kids and women too! I see…
I’ve said that when?
As asserted earlier–I’m sorry you and yours, apparently, are just now learning about the kill list and whatnot. Maybe a little less time in the right wing echo chamber might help such things from happening in the future.
/drive-by
getalife
February 7th, 2013
8:56 pm
You can’t march lockstep with w on drones then cry when President Obama does the same thing con hypocrites.
Just zip it.
Jackie
February 7th, 2013
8:56 pm
@Sinkwich
Did you ever serve in the armed forces?
Uh Huh....Were we attacked on 9/11? What did John McCain Do?
February 7th, 2013
8:57 pm
@kayaker 71
February 7th, 2013
8:23 pm
Uh…. Huh, 8:11,
Ever made a mistake? Palin wasn’t best choice and he has admitted that since 2008. You must have never done something that you would like to take back, now have you? Never made a bad decision? so you can pile it on to this national hero who spent his time standing up for something besides some kind of dinky liberal spin that gets us nowhere. He and others have described some things while at the Hilton that were almost unbelievable. I have seen some of these patients who were tortured on a regular basis for longer than a year or so. It fu*ks with your mind, not to mention your body. One favorite was to spread the legs of a prisoner and take a simple bamboo shoot which is stiff and somewhat flexible and flip it into the testicles. Doing this for about an hour and you will tell them anything they want to know. Ever see a scrotum that is three times the normal size? How about the same technique on the bottom of someone’s feet. It makes the feet swell about twice their normal size and prisoners have to crawl to some clay pot to defecate because they can’t walk. Day after day, the same thing. For weeks, months and years. How long could you take it, uH Huh? I think I have the answer. McCain is twice the man you and I will ever be.
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“Ever made a mistake?”
Yes….but I did not take it out on others.
“Never made a bad decision?”
His bad decision was he ran AGAINST a BLACK MAN AND LOST.
“national hero who spent his time standing up for something besides
some kind of dinky liberal spin”
He served in the Vietnam War that was a disaster for the U.S. and a war
that the U.S. should have stayed out of.
“described some things while at the Hilton that were almost unbelievable.”
He should thank his Heavenly Father that he made it out alive and he should
be more humble and THANKFUL
There are soldiers coming back from Iraq and Afghanistan who have
suffered as much.
There are soldiers that are coming home with no arms, no legs, who
have also suffered.
McCain should be more thankful that he came home alive and has lived
a good life doing what he loved.
Doggone/GA
February 7th, 2013
8:58 pm
“You referring to Biden?”
Sarah Palin had a sex-change operation AND changed her name? Have her husband and children noticed yet?
Doggone/GA
February 7th, 2013
8:59 pm
“There are soldiers that are coming home with no arms, no legs, who
have also suffered”
Have you seen the story of the Veteran who lost ALL 4 LIMBS and had 2 arm transplants?
td
February 7th, 2013
8:59 pm
Joe Biden makes Sarah Palin look like a genius.
standing guard
February 7th, 2013
9:00 pm
Unless you have stood guard on unfriendly soil and faced a barrage of bullets. Keep your uninformed, cowardly, left wing, twinkie eating opinions of John McCain to yourself. You have no idea what he did, or who he is, and people like you never will… The most dangerous thing most of you face is Walmart at Christmas…you just don’t get it.
Serious Robuck
February 7th, 2013
9:01 pm
td, you make ALL of us look like geniuses.
independent thinker
February 7th, 2013
9:01 pm
I bet Obama and Hilary were sitting around watching the Benghazi attack in real time with Panetta while Joe Biden read My pet Goat to them.
Jackie
February 7th, 2013
9:01 pm
@standing
I beg your pardon?
td
February 7th, 2013
9:02 pm
Serious Robuck
February 7th, 2013
9:01 pm
Let us see your genius. Go and defend Obama after the statements made in my 8:50 post
Uh Huh....Were we attacked on 9/11? What did John McCain Do?
February 7th, 2013
9:03 pm
@DownInAlbany
February 7th, 2013
8:47 pm
and his nitwit VP was this close to being our next President.
You referring to Biden?
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Can you spell S-A-R-A-H P-A-L-I-N?
The mama grizzly that was just FIRED FROM FAUX NEWS.
KARMA IS A BEACH.
DownInAlbany
February 7th, 2013
9:03 pm
DownInAlbany
February 7th, 2013
8:45 pm
DownInAlbany
February 7th, 2013
8:28 pm
How does this play into the lib talking points?
General Dempsey, Chair of the Joint Chiefs, told the Senate today that the intelligence in the region and the amount of attacks prior to the attack on the US Special Mission in Benghazi, Libya, should have made it “crystal clear” to everyone involved that an attack on the annex was “imminent.”
‘Ya got nothing, do you?
Still no takers. That’s what I figured.
td
February 7th, 2013
9:04 pm
independent thinker
February 7th, 2013
9:01 pm
I bet Obama and Hilary were sitting around watching the Benghazi attack in real time with Panetta while Joe Biden read My pet Goat to them.
Panetta testified under oath today that he could not get in touch with Obama or HIllary for the whole 6 hours of the Benghazi attack.
JamVet
February 7th, 2013
9:05 pm
“Keep your uninformed, cowardly, left wing, twinkie eating opinions of John McCain to yourself.”
Take it up with sink and recon.
They’ll tell you what a loser he is for calling the swiftboaters dishonest and dishonorable.
Recon 0311 2533
February 7th, 2013
9:06 pm
Have you seen the story of the Veteran who lost ALL 4 LIMBS and had 2 arm transplants?
The biggest fear in recon teams was losing your manhood, to hostile fire so each team carried a Russian Tokarev. You could be carried out in a body bag but still be a man.
Serious Robuck
February 7th, 2013
9:07 pm
Standing guard, where were you when Saxby was smearing Max? Tell me you didn’t support Saxby, who had a bad toe and partied at the Sigma Chi house for years while Max was in Viet Nam. Tell me you didn’t support W, who served without appearance, in the Alabama Air National Guard. Tell me you didn’t support Cheney, who had more important things to do than serve his country. You self-righteous right wing jerks are so full of it, you may burst at any moment.
The fact is that John McCain is a LOSER! And a poor one, at that.
Uh Huh....Were we attacked on 9/11? What did John McCain Do?
February 7th, 2013
9:07 pm
@Doggone/GA
February 7th, 2013
8:59 pm
“There are soldiers that are coming home with no arms, no legs, who
have also suffered”
Have you seen the story of the Veteran who lost ALL 4 LIMBS and had 2 arm transplants?
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YES….he is an American HERO.
He gave ALL 4 LIMBS for his country.
And he does not seem to be BITTER.
Jackie
February 7th, 2013
9:08 pm
@DownInAlbany
Even Ambassador Stevens knew something was up because his friends in the local militia told him they had heard rumors.
The USA employed contractors as guards of the embassy and the consulate mission. We did not have the money to pay them, nor would we allocate the money to fund our rapid-deployment force in Italy.
Ambassador Stevens felt that he had enough experience and friends in the area so that he could have means and methods of avoid surprises. After all, he had spent more than 20 years in the country and had a good working relationship with Khadafy and the rebel groups.
Yes, he requested more security but was turned down because the State Department did not have the money allocated by Congress and were refused to unlock money allocated for State Department functions in Iraq.
What would you have done?
F. Sinkwich
February 7th, 2013
9:09 pm
“Did you ever serve in the armed forces?”
NOYFB.
But thanks for asking.
Doggone/GA
February 7th, 2013
9:09 pm
“YES….he is an American HERO”
Yes, he is…and my prayers are that the transplants are totally successful. He’s already got partial use of at least one of them…which to ME is a miracle of surgery.
Doggone/GA
February 7th, 2013
9:11 pm
“NOYFB”
Are you sure you didn’t accidentally add 2 extra letters to that?
Jackie
February 7th, 2013
9:11 pm
@Sinkwich
It shows, you and your little twinkie hip!!!!
Thanks for replying.
JamVet
February 7th, 2013
9:11 pm
NO
YFB.USA Patriot
February 7th, 2013
9:12 pm
“The increasingly angry, embittered President” – there, fixed it for ya JB.
Doggone/GA
February 7th, 2013
9:12 pm
“Are you sure you didn’t accidentally add 2 extra letters to that?”
Well, looks like I can’t count tonight…3 letters, not 2.
There are 3 kinds of people in the world…those who can count and those who can’t
NoBodyYouKnow
February 7th, 2013
9:15 pm
I am so sick and tired of hearing about this. And yes I know 4 brave Americans lost their lives, but what does it serve to go on and on trying to find a scapegoat? Typical politics.
Serious Robuck
February 7th, 2013
9:15 pm
td, you cut and paste real real good for a good old boy from Paulding County. Who tawt yew how to do that and then post it? Guess its that genetic gene pool your mamma and them came from and then past on two yewe. Go get sum sleep, td, so yew ken be heer ALL day tomorro to show us libruls how stewpidd we are.
Recon 0311 2533
February 7th, 2013
9:17 pm
Where are two of my favorite posters, Fred and moonbatbetty?
USA Patriot
February 7th, 2013
9:17 pm
OMG! There’s a progressive / liberal / democrat running through the hills in SoCal with guns that killed 4 people so far! Guess the “laws” in CA are really working!
Hope it’s some “gun toting backwoods hick sticking to his guns” that kills this SOB!
Doggone/GA
February 7th, 2013
9:18 pm
“but what does it serve to go on and on trying to find a scapegoat? ”
You will understand if you just contemplate how desperate some of the conned are to latch onto an impeachable offence.
Jackie
February 7th, 2013
9:20 pm
@USA
How do you know he is a liberal / democrat ?
You must have seen a picture of him and you used that photograph to make the assertion, right?
td
February 7th, 2013
9:21 pm
Serious Robuck
February 7th, 2013
9:15 pm
Find where I cut and pasted my post from? This is original thought from testimony heard today.
BTW: I was born and raised in Cobb county when it was known as the smartest county in the state. Unlike you in the genetically challenged area of the state you were born and bred in.
DownInAlbany
February 7th, 2013
9:22 pm
Jackie
February 7th, 2013
9:08 pm
What would you have done?
Anything would have been more than our Pres and SOS did which was absolutely NOTHING. They were AWOL. Couldn’t be contacted. Damn sure didn’t miss the photo-op when OBL was killed! But, couldn’t be bothered when 4 US citizens were murdered.
Jimiz_1
February 7th, 2013
9:22 pm
You mean to tell me that this country has plenty of money for welfare an foodstamps to protect the poor. But they couldn’t scrape togeather any funds for some American forces to protect them on 9/11. Seems like the president would see the danger thats going on in these countrys and sign one of his famous executive orders to make sure this doesn’t happen again . But guess what we just had another embassy attacked in Africa i think. Is it me or did all this stuff start happening when obama took office?