GOP’s most daunting challenge is among the young

The political story of the week, month and probably the year continues to be the plight of the Republican Party and its belated effort to break its dependence on white, older Americans.

That’s why RNC Chair Reince Priebus is here in Atlanta, the capitol of black America, seeking input on how to reach African Americans. It’s also why U.S. Sen. Marco Rubio will be giving the GOP response to President Obama’s State of the Union address next week, and is leading a Republican effort to resolve its immigration challenge.

But Stu Rothenberg, writing in Roll Call, lays out what may be the most daunting challenge of all. As he notes, the GOP does very, very well among older voters, particularly older white voters. It does so well, in fact, that by rights it ought to be winning national elections easily:

“Romney … easily beat Obama among voters 45 and older, many of whom came of age politically during the Reagan years or whose views were formed by the Gipper’s brand of conservatism…. he won whites 65 years and older by 61 percent to 39 percent and whites 45-64 by 61 percent to 38 percent.”

But among young voters? Let’s take a look at how GOP presidential candidates have done among the general electorate, compared to how they’ve done among those aged 18-29:

youth

As the chart indicates, among young voters, the GOP is significantly underperforming both its overall numbers and its historic numbers among the young.

Think of it this way: In 1984, Ronald Reagan got 59 percent of the 18-29 vote, and today, 28 years later, many of those young Reagan voters continue to think of themselves as Reagan Republicans and continue to vote that way. Many of those reading this are probably part of that demographic, and had their political views and loyalties formed in that era.

Fast-forward 24 years. In 2008, President Obama got 66 percent of the 18-29 vote, and last year he got 60 percent. When you start doing that cycle after cycle, you build an advantage that is hard to overcome. These are people who are going to be voting for the next half-century.

– Jay Bookman

384 comments Add your comment

the dog

February 7th, 2013
9:28 am

My son has voted in 2 presidential elections, democrat both times. We raised him to be color blind, respectful of women and tolerant of other’s beliefs. Republicans should try it sometime and not alwayse be the party of No and Hate.

USinUK - former Girl Scout

February 7th, 2013
9:32 am

“As the chart indicates, among young voters, the GOP is significantly underperforming its overall numbers”

keep regulating young girls’ uteruses and telling people who can/can’t marry and, lo and behold, the young-uns won’t like you.

seeeemples.

Who was the "Real" Mitt Romney?

February 7th, 2013
9:35 am

If someone could have answered that question for the 18-29 year old crowd, Mitt probably could have pulled more of that vote. They were confused!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bxch-yi14BE

bookman parrot

February 7th, 2013
9:35 am

the young are easily b.s.ed into thinking lib is good, when in fact it is not.

Bob

February 7th, 2013
9:36 am

Hey dog, sometimes you need a party of no. Your kid will be paying a hefty price for money spent by the people that can’t say no. Your kid will be paying for the Ponzi built by the politicians of today.

godless heathen - owner of many things he does not need

February 7th, 2013
9:39 am

Trending up. If the GOP puts up any candidate just bit hipper than McCain or Romney, the gap will disappear overnight. Especially if the “hipness” comparison is with Clueless Joe or Old Lady Clinton.

Maximum

February 7th, 2013
9:40 am

The Republicans have painted themselves into an ideological corner. It’s bound to be a little messy as they try to find their way back towards the center, if they can indeed find the political will to make that happen.

Paul

February 7th, 2013
9:40 am

Implementing long-term, strategic thinking within a group with strong elements who seem fixated on near-term ‘victories’ and implementing social agendas is going to be quite a challenge.

Road Scholar

February 7th, 2013
9:41 am

But but but….Wasn’t Reagan a RINO?

Bob

February 7th, 2013
9:41 am

2012 Tax Return

I just received my tax return for 2012 back from the IRS. It puzzles me!!!

They are questioning how many dependents I claimed.
I guess it was because of my response to the question: “List all dependents?”
I replied: 12 million illegal immigrants;
3 million crack heads;
42 million unemployed people on food stamps,
2 million people in over 243 prisons;
Half of Mexico ;
and 535 persons in
the U.S. House and Senate.”
Evidently, this was NOT an acceptable answer.
I KEEP ASKING MYSELF, WHO THE HELL DID I MISS?

TaxPayer

February 7th, 2013
9:41 am

the young are easily b.s.ed into thinking lib is good, when in fact it is not.

Could you be a little more liberal with the supporting “fact” because I couldn’t find it anywhere in your statement.

Thomas

February 7th, 2013
9:41 am

I find it interesting that the (liberal) media is focused on telling the RNC what it needs to do.

I would think when the competition is being stupid let them continue being stupid.

ATL Tiger

February 7th, 2013
9:42 am

I think the GOP is going to split in the next 5-10 years. One faction will remain similar to what we see today, the other (I hope) will morph into a quasi-libertarian platform. There is no doubt that a significant number of us agree with libertarian principles (especially among the young), we just vote for the bigger government parties.

TaxPayer

February 7th, 2013
9:42 am

Perhaps an audit of Bob’s return would help him to better understand the questions.

Peadawg

February 7th, 2013
9:43 am

“the young are easily b.s.ed into thinking lib is good, when in fact it is not.”

Amen to that!!! I was b.s.ed into thinking the GOP actually cared up until about 2 or 3 years ago. But all they care about is hate mongering, discriminating, and the rich.

USinUK - former Girl Scout

February 7th, 2013
9:44 am

Bob – if you’re going to cut-n-paste, you can at least give appropriate credit for your meme

TaxPayer

February 7th, 2013
9:45 am

There is no doubt that a significant number of us agree with libertarian principles (especially among the young), we just vote for the bigger government parties.

I doubt that.

Simple Truths

February 7th, 2013
9:46 am

“Jay’s political story of the week, month and probably the year continues to be the plight of the Republican Party and its belated effort to break its dependence on white, older Americans.”

There, Jay. Fixed your typo.

Bob

February 7th, 2013
9:46 am

Being a liberal is a good thing. You can whine when the leader of the opposing party eaves drops on cell phone calls from suspected terrorists and claim you have an interest in the all important 4th amendment. When you then learn your party’s leader kills an American citizen you can then act like you have never heard of the fourth amendment. Lifes a beach, conservative evesdrooper bad, liberal American killing president good.

Peadawg

February 7th, 2013
9:48 am

Peadawg
February 7th, 2013
9:43 am

Just realized I misread what I quoted…but my point still stands. Young people usually believe what their parents believe until they old enough to figure it out themselves.

Granny Godzilla

February 7th, 2013
9:48 am

godless heathen

Joe and Hillary are simply “naturals” with the young.

I can’t believe you don’t see it.

Simple Truths

February 7th, 2013
9:48 am

I think the political story of the week, month, and probably year will be the economy and the debt ceiling.

kayaker 71

February 7th, 2013
9:49 am

I wonder how many of these 18-29 yr old voters who voted for Bozo know who our present Vice President is? Many are products of American Idol or some sit com TV show or perhaps Kim and her gun problems. However, many don’t have a clue about how Bozo and his gang of thieves are spending this country into a third world status and could care less. Bozo is cool. He is not some old white guy like Romney. Bozo speaks their language. Hell, he appears on Letterman with Bozoette, he is hip and really cool. And he plays that image to a crowd who probably can’t tell you the difference between the Declaration of Independence and the Bill of Rights. But Bozo is cool, especially to the rapper crowd and that kid in Chicago with his pants down around his ankles. If diversity means pandering to this group, you can have it.

Simple Truths

February 7th, 2013
9:50 am

Peadawg @9:48

Dude, did you just reply to yourself? That is a neat trick!

Recon 0311 2533

February 7th, 2013
9:50 am

The left ignores the debt crises and its probable effect on voting trends in the not too distant future. Younger voters tend to be focused more on social issues and the Democrats have exploited that focus successfully, however, as the economy continues to stumble as it likely will social issues will become far less important across the entire electorate including younger voters.

Peadawg

February 7th, 2013
9:51 am

“Dude, did you just reply to yourself? That is a neat trick!”

Not exactly a trick…just copied and pasted the name, date, and time from the left.

barking frog

February 7th, 2013
9:51 am

There’s no fool like an old fool…….

TaxPayer

February 7th, 2013
9:51 am

According to one of those well known Republican principles, the reason Republicans cannot attract the young vote is quite simple: The young voter is able to shut down that part of the body at will that would otherwise respond positively to Republican advances.

curious

February 7th, 2013
9:52 am

kayaker 71

Your use of the terms “Bozo and Bozoette” is an indication of your lack of self esteem.

larry

February 7th, 2013
9:52 am

Hey Bob, amongst your cut and paste , you forgot someone to claim.

Yourself.

Your welcome.

Peadawg

February 7th, 2013
9:53 am

“Younger voters tend to be focused more on social issues”

Not exactly. Younger voters don’t usually care about social issues (i.e. they don’t care what someone does in their bedroom, etc.). That’s why they tend to not vote GOP who usually puts social issues at the front of their campaign.

Mick

February 7th, 2013
9:53 am

With leaders like dunce priebus, mitch mcconnell, the boehner, and paul ryan, what chance do they really have? All of their “conservative” principles were tried out in our first decade of the new milennium, how did that work out?

Joe Hussein Mama

February 7th, 2013
9:53 am

TaxPayers — “The young voter is able to shut down that part of the body at will that would otherwise respond positively to Republican advances.”

The electorate has ways of determining whether or not it’s dealing with a “legitimate” political party. If not, it can shut that whole thing down.

weetamoe

February 7th, 2013
9:54 am

In 2008 the Journolist message was let’s call them all racist. In 2010 the Journolist message was let’s call the TEA party racist. Ezra Klein was promoted directly from college to Journolist to Washington Post. His buddies Dave Weigel, Matt Iglesias and others with their close connections to ABC and CBS reporters are princes of the Obama Ministry of Information. There was just one Goebbels; the democrats have dozens. Their calumnies have been successful so far. But we will all end up in the same smoking rubble.

Beefcake

February 7th, 2013
9:54 am

I was raised colorblind (and still am) and in my younger days (Yea, I graduated from college) I was a communistic wannabe, too. Wasn’t it Churchill who said something to the effect that when you’re young if you’re not lefty you don’t have a heart & when you get more mature if you can’t see through the Lefty propaganda you don’t have a brain?

So true also I find the ol’ sayin’ young & dum & full of….(you know the rest) has never been more true with an ever compliant media trumpeting their own horn.

USinUK - former Girl Scout

February 7th, 2013
9:54 am

“I wonder how many of these 18-29 yr old voters who voted for Bozo know who our present Vice President is?”

like I said downstairs, nothing wins over the electorate quite like calling ‘em stupid.

larry

February 7th, 2013
9:55 am

Funny, when Reagan was president and i was worried about paying back all the spending he was doing , i was told not to worry about.

I said i’m going to have to pay all of this back one day.

All the Repubs just laughed.

Jay

February 7th, 2013
9:56 am

Simple, despite their belligerent rhetoric of a month or two ago, the Republicans have lost all stomach for a debt-ceiling fight. They realized they were writing checks with their mouth that they did not dare try to cash … so to speak.

curious

February 7th, 2013
9:57 am

Who was that guy who said “Deficits don’t matter” ?

Lord Help Us

February 7th, 2013
9:57 am

‘however, as the economy continues to stumble as it likely will social issues will become far less important across the entire electorate including younger voters.’

What if you are wrong…again…

ByteMe - Got ilk?

February 7th, 2013
9:57 am

In response to this “daunting challenge”, Indiana Republicans want to make it illegal for any student paying out-of-state tuition to vote in Indiana. That should help!

larry

February 7th, 2013
9:57 am

like I said downstairs, nothing wins over the electorate quite like calling ‘em stupid.

Or putting out candidates that they dont connect with. Like Paul Broun.

Thomas Heyward Jr

February 7th, 2013
9:58 am

The youth are not interested in Republican-Brand Geezer Conservatism.
Nor in the Democrat-Brand Free Government Cheese Violent Drone Murder Police-State Progressives.
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Ron Paul out-polled Obama leading up to the 2012 elections.
He might be gone from public office but his message of Liberty gains in popularity.
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I’m sorry for you Authoritarians.
It just won’t sell to the youth.
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Thank God.

Granny Godzilla

February 7th, 2013
9:59 am

Beefcake

February 7th, 2013
9:54 am

I was raised colorblind (and still am) and in my younger days (Yea, I graduated from college) I was a communistic wannabe, too. Wasn’t it Churchill who said something to the effect that when you’re young if you’re not lefty you don’t have a heart & when you get more mature if you can’t see through the Lefty propaganda you don’t have a brain?

So true also I find the ol’ sayin’ young & dum & full of….(you know the rest) has never been more true with an ever compliant media trumpeting their own horn.
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.
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Actually that Churchill quote is FALSE. He never said it. Ever.

And

Winston was a conservative as a young man and became…..liberal as he grew older.

Meme busters!

larry

February 7th, 2013
9:59 am

Who was that guy who said “Deficits don’t matter” ?

Why that was Mr. Cheney.

But Obama made him say it!

Joe Hussein Mama

February 7th, 2013
10:00 am

ByteMe — “In response to this “daunting challenge”, Indiana Republicans want to make it illegal for any student paying out-of-state tuition to vote in Indiana. That should help!”

That’s pretty *stupid,* actually, considering that one of the things that helps you establish in-state residency (so you can pay in-state tuition and fees) is registering to vote in the state where you’re going to school.

Cart before the horse. :roll:

Butch Cassidy (I)

February 7th, 2013
10:03 am

kayaker 71 – “However, many don’t have a clue about how Bozo and his gang of thieves are spending this country into a third world status and could care less.”

Awwww……poor boo boo. When are your parents coming to get you?

MANGLER

February 7th, 2013
10:03 am

Well with the way the conservative couch-pundits refer to the youth, it is any wonder they would vote more liberal? Why would they want to align themselves with a group that thinks so little of them? At no point has anyone with conservative leaning commentary suggested shoring up education and support for the youth outside of dismantling public schooling and sending that money directly into private schools that are built in wealthier white christian neighborhoods. Yeah, that’s really going to get the support of the demographic you have little support from.

williebkind

February 7th, 2013
10:03 am

Young voters vote by what the main stream media blasts across the airways. Composed by liberals that make up emotional lies then send it across the nation using the media. Most young people can not tell you who is their senator, their governor, or their mayor. They have no idea what is going on and never will until someone tells them no. They will gang together any cause that is against the status quo whether it is harmful or not.

Thogwummpy

February 7th, 2013
10:04 am

Gee, the young are the least competent, with the least life experience, with less ability to understand the complex consequences of decisions. And they’re the most easily prone to be seduced by silly idealistic fantasies. So OF COURSE they’re going to lean liberal….because demographically, they don’t know any better yet. Once they get a job and strap on some obligations and responsibilities, like raising a family and meeting a household budget (let alone planning long term for retirement), or buying a home….well, all that childish nonsense SHOULD fade away. However, some kids never reach adulthood character, and passionately hold fast to kindergarten perspectives. Some become President, and some get an AJC column….right Mr. Bookman? People who accept personal responsibility—which usually is a trait that arrives with the experience of work and age—-don’t tend to vote Parasite…I mean Dem-oron…I mean for Obama.

joe

February 7th, 2013
10:04 am

Members of today’s NINJA generation (which stands for No Income, No Job) are exactly the ones who should look to the GOP. With the way our administration is spending our country into oblivion, it’s the youth who will bear that cost. Maybe not the college kids of today, but certainly the kids in middle/elementary school. Throw in Obamacare and you have small businesses cutting jobs to get under the 50 employee threshold.

So, youth of America, time to wake up for it is you who will be paying the piper…

HDB

February 7th, 2013
10:04 am

Republicans fail to give young people credit for voting FOR someone that has their best interests in mind!! When Republicans want to make it more difficult for a young person to get financing for higher education whereas Obama and the Democrats have made it…and repayment….a bit easier…that’s a policy that young people can follow! When the Republicans have refused to put forth a jobs program in this economy…and have stymied the Democrats when they put forth their economic ideas to stimulate the economy…..that’s a policy that young people DO follow…….

Skip

February 7th, 2013
10:05 am

So it’s the Dems fault the Cons lost? Is that what I hear here?

Jay

February 7th, 2013
10:05 am

“Have you thought that the only reason obama won was because of voter fraud and busing minority’s to the polls in exchange for a hamburger and fries???”

The GOP’s problem, epitomized and personalized. Mr. Priebus, I think you need to see this.

Butch Cassidy (I)

February 7th, 2013
10:05 am

williebkind – “Young voters vote by what the main stream media blasts across the airways. Composed by liberals that make up emotional lies then send it across the nation using the media.”

I see, and insulting them is your plan to get them to vote GOP? Good luck with that.

Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes

February 7th, 2013
10:05 am

… the Obama Ministry of Information.

Frank Luntz says, “What?”

kayaker 71

February 7th, 2013
10:06 am

If pandering to the stupid is where elections are going in this country, we are doomed. When the govt paying for your birth control pill is more important than your second amendment rights, we don’t have much of a future. When no one seems to care about all of the lies that have come from the last four years and just takes it as a matter of course that nearly 8% are still unemployed and we have a debt that is over 16T dollars, we are expected to take this as the new norm. When Iran trots out it new nuclear warhead and some raghead Muslim in Iran rejects overtures for talks with our country, all of those American Idol viewers just sit back and feel secure, knowing that Mr. Cool will handle everything. Damn, I feel better already.

godless heathen - owner of many things he does not need

February 7th, 2013
10:06 am

Joe and Hillary are simply “naturals” with the young.

I can’t believe you don’t see it.

gg made a funny. Clean-up on gh’s video screen!

Recon 0311 2533

February 7th, 2013
10:06 am

What if you are wrong…again…

Well you took the time to read my post and then to make the above comment, which tells me that you didn’t like what I said, which also tells me you’re not certain I’m wrong.

Skip

February 7th, 2013
10:06 am

Joe, Cons control the House. You must not know what that means.

ATL Tiger

February 7th, 2013
10:07 am

“Most young people can not tell you who is their senator, their governor, or their mayor. They have no idea what is going on and never will until someone tells them no. They will gang together any cause that is against the status quo whether it is harmful or not.”

Definitely a true statement, and a sad one as well.

ByteMe - Got ilk?

February 7th, 2013
10:07 am

Ron Paul out-polled Obama leading up to the 2012 elections.

Aaahhh hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

ROTFLOL!!! :lol: :lol:

Please stop.

Butch Cassidy (I)

February 7th, 2013
10:07 am

Thogwumpy – “Gee, the young are the least competent, with the least life experience, with less ability to understand the complex consequences of decisions.”

Wow, how is it your party is becoming obsolete?

Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes

February 7th, 2013
10:07 am

Gee, the young are the least competent, with the least life experience, with less ability to understand the complex consequences of decisions. And they’re the most easily prone to be seduced by silly idealistic fantasies.

The Reagan youth of the 80s say, “What?”

JP

February 7th, 2013
10:07 am

“…break its dependence on white, older Americans.”

After all, white, older Americans don’t count and are second-class citizens in Jay’s narrow worldview.

Liberals are “selling” abortion, homosexuality, and socialism as their vision for remaking America.

The GOP needs to embrace Objective Truth (and not relativistic Liberal lies), and people will start coming to their senses.

As Bill Whittle put it, “The conservative idea of America is that we’re a nation of steely-eyed missile men with our eyes on a far horizon. The future is unlimited, there’s nothing we cant do. We have the power to vaporize any building in the world at our leisure. We have footprints and a flag on the moon. We believe in the power of the human mind and human creativity, human inventiveness, hard work, imagination. We believe that everyone should live like they have 250 million dollars. We believe it’s time for you to step off, get out of our face, don’t tell us what to do. You have a right to live the way you want to in America. That’s our message.

And what’s their [Liberal] message? What is their vision for humanity’s future on this progressive left we find ourselves against? Their vision of a future for America is a bunch of people sitting around in thatch huts, sitting around a burning cow pie, pulling parasites off of each other, eating their sustainable algae cakes, and having organic bake sales to raise money for the Guatemalan water snake.”

Beefcake

February 7th, 2013
10:07 am

It’s still a good thought although never “quoted” EVERYthing is bass ackwards

Granny Godzilla

February 7th, 2013
10:08 am

williebkind

February 7th, 2013
10:03 am

Young voters vote by what the main stream media blasts across the airways. Composed by liberals that make up emotional lies then send it across the nation using the media. Most young people can not tell you who is their senator, their governor, or their mayor. They have no idea what is going on and never will until someone tells them no. They will gang together any cause that is against the status quo whether it is harmful or not.

****And Thogwumpy too
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Yep, insult the electorate you hope to gain

PROCEED Guv’ner

Butch Cassidy (I)

February 7th, 2013
10:08 am

joe – “Throw in Obamacare and you have small businesses cutting jobs to get under the 50 employee threshold.”

Why would small businesses want to open themselves up to the penalites being drafted right now to keep them from doing just that?

Find Muck

February 7th, 2013
10:08 am

Joe Hussein Mama

February 7th, 2013
10:09 am

I like how the cons’ collective explanation of the 2012 election can be boiled down into a single image: that of an old man, shaking his cane at the neighborhood 18-year-olds and shouting YOU G****MN KIDS at the top of his lungs.

:D

barking frog

February 7th, 2013
10:09 am

Republicans offer the young opposition to:

Social Security
Medicare
gay marriage
abortion
Medicaid
gun control
immigration reform

How can they resist ?

ByteMe - Got ilk?

February 7th, 2013
10:09 am

As Bill Whittle put it, “The conservative idea of America is that we’re a nation of steely-eyed missile men with our eyes on a far horizon. The future is unlimited, there’s nothing we cant do. We have the power to vaporize any building in the world at our leisure

‘Cause, you know, blowing up real buildings is what turns the kids on.

Lord Help Us

February 7th, 2013
10:09 am

‘which also tells me you’re not certain I’m wrong.’

Brilliant, Einsteen…notice the words, ‘What if’ in my sentence.

the dog

February 7th, 2013
10:10 am

My son and I get our news and information from many different sources. Calling college age students dumb and stupid just reinforces their belief in the democratic party. My son would also be appalled at someone like Kayaker spewing lies and hate in the name of the republican party. The party of stupid just does not get it and I am not sure they ever will.

Granny Godzilla

February 7th, 2013
10:10 am

godless heathen – owner of many things he does not need

February 7th, 2013
10:06 am

Joe and Hillary are simply “naturals” with the young.

I can’t believe you don’t see it.

gg made a funny. Clean-up on gh’s video screen!
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funny, charming, delightful and strong…..

Yes Hillary and Joe are naturals with young people.

now clean up your screen – it is cold and flu season

kayaker 71

February 7th, 2013
10:12 am

JP, 10:07,

Right on. Damn, what vision.

Thomas Heyward Jr

February 7th, 2013
10:12 am

ByteMe – Got ilk?

February 7th, 2013
10:07 am

Ron Paul out-polled Obama leading up to the 2012 elections.

Aaahhh hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

ROTFLOL!!!

Please stop.
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Among the youth he did.
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I know that that frightened you so much that you blotted it out of your mind but………………..reality is a biatch.
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One must confront it.

kayaker 71

February 7th, 2013
10:14 am

Bookman,

Called the GOAL people yet?

Butch Cassidy (I)

February 7th, 2013
10:14 am

From the comments so far, I can only surmise that the GOP approach to winning over the youth of America is to stand before them and yell

“HEY, YOU IDIOT LOSERS, WHY DON’T YOU WAKE UP AND PULL YOUR COLLECTIVE HEADS OUT OF YOUR MUSLIM LOVING, OBAMA WORSHIPING, ENTITLEMENT SUCKING, IMMIGRANT KISSING A$$, AND JOIN THE PARTY THAT REALLY UNDERSTANDS AND CARES ABOUT YOU!”.

I’m sure the kids will come a runnin.

massachusetts refugee

February 7th, 2013
10:15 am

JB’s near obsession with all things GOP is getting old. I think I’ll join jamvet in a timeout. see ya…

ByteMe - Got ilk?

February 7th, 2013
10:15 am

Among the youth he did.

Show your cards, Ace. Straight-up, Ron Paul vs. Obama in a poll of those under 30. Go for it.

Brosephus™

February 7th, 2013
10:15 am

When you start doing that cycle after cycle, you build an advantage that is hard to overcome. These are people who are going to be voting for the next half-century.

Not necessarily. I think it’s more of a matter of which party better represents the middle. When the GOP ran 5 of 6 popular votes on the Dems, the GOP better appealed to the middle. Now, the roles are reversed. There’s nothing to show that things won’t change again. However, the time it takes for the pendulum to swing back is limited by the time it takes for the GOP to quit trying to out conservative itself.

Jay

February 7th, 2013
10:15 am

kayaker, I left a very simple, straightforward explanation of your mistake on the previous thread. If you refuse to read it or cannot comprehend it, I cannot help you further.

the dog

February 7th, 2013
10:15 am

An educated, well read voter is the repulican nightmare.

Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes

February 7th, 2013
10:17 am

kayaker, I left a very simple, straightforward explanation of your mistake on the previous thread.

Actually it’s two floors down.

Thomas Heyward Jr

February 7th, 2013
10:18 am

Obama…………after eight years of misery ……..will be the same buzz-kill to the smart youth ,
as Bush Boi was to decent Americans who valued constitutional-respecting Small government personal liberty proponents.
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May the DemoRepugs RIP………..not.

Butch Cassidy (I)

February 7th, 2013
10:18 am

Why do I envision kayaker 71 sitting in his living room after the election grumbling ” we would have gotten away with it, if it hadn’t been for those meddling kids!”. :)

Dirty Dawg

February 7th, 2013
10:18 am

Thank goodness that more and more young folks don’t buy into what the GOP is…Greed, Obstruction and Prejudice. And your ‘Saint’ Ronnie has been exposed for the evil, easily manipulated, horror of a man that not enough of us knew all along. Of course Georgia won’t be ‘coming around’ any time soon since we’re so deep in the ‘cognitive dissonance’ hole, and we’ve put so many of the Broun/Gingrey/Westmoreland/etc. in office…and that with Gerrymandering and a weakened Democratic Party, the Repugs won’t have any real competition for the foreseeable future.

Moderate Line

February 7th, 2013
10:19 am

If there is 10 point margin for Republicans with the young then there is gap for the old for the Democrats. The number is 6 for those 64 and over. Also not the percentage of young voters is ever decreasing while the percentage of old people is increasing.

Brosephus™

February 7th, 2013
10:19 am

Gee, the young are the least competent, with the least life experience, with less ability to understand the complex consequences of decisions. And they’re the most easily prone to be seduced by silly idealistic fantasies. So OF COURSE they’re going to lean liberal….because demographically, they don’t know any better yet.

Damn, I must have been one truly f**ked up kid then. Seems as though I’m backwards of what I supposed to be. I supported and or followed more conservative candidates when I was younger. As I’ve gained more experience, I’ve tended to see things more in terms of everyone around me and not just being selfish for myself. I used to not give a crap about people as I was only worried about what was in it for me. Now, I realize that the decisions I make tend to affect those around me, and not always in a positive manner.

Joe Hussein Mama

February 7th, 2013
10:20 am

B. Cassidy — “grumbling ” we would have gotten away with it, if it hadn’t been for those meddling kids!”.

Jinkies! :D

TaxPayer

February 7th, 2013
10:21 am

I think it’s settled then. Republicans don’t need to change a thing. They just need to work on presentation. I suggest some of that new technology that screens a room for hidden cameras to start with.

Thomas Heyward Jr

February 7th, 2013
10:21 am

ByteMe – Got ilk?

February 7th, 2013
10:15 am

Among the youth he did.

Show your cards, Ace. Straight-up, Ron Paul vs. Obama in a poll of those under 30. Go for it.
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You’re obviously confusing me with some sort of Obama-Bot or Chris Rock.
I Take orders from no one and Obama , unlike you, is NOT my daddy.
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look it up yourself.
(but maybe I should be more precise…..Ron Paul ..when polled AGAINST Obama outperformed all other Repg candidates. On many polls in 2011, he tied.)

Doggone/GA

February 7th, 2013
10:22 am

“Also not the percentage of young voters is ever decreasing while the percentage of old people is increasing.”

ummmm…in case you haven’t noticed, the young have a MUCH longer potential voting “lifespan” than to the old

Granny Godzilla

February 7th, 2013
10:23 am

TaxPayer

February 7th, 2013
10:21 am

I think it’s settled then. Republicans don’t need to change a thing. They just need to work on presentation. I suggest some of that new technology that screens a room for hidden cameras to start with.
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Re-gifting?

Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes

February 7th, 2013
10:23 am

but maybe I should be more precise…..Ron Paul ..when polled AGAINST Obama outperformed all other Repg candidates.

Translation: Let me pick up this goalpost and move it somewhere else.

ByteMe - Got ilk?

February 7th, 2013
10:24 am

look it up yourself.
(but maybe I should be more precise…..Ron Paul ..when polled AGAINST Obama outperformed all other Repg candidates. On many polls in 2011, he tied.)

Which is to say that you made a claim and then can’t back it up, so you move the goalposts. Way to win converts!

Brosephus™

February 7th, 2013
10:24 am

Most young people can not tell you who is their senator, their governor, or their mayor. They have no idea what is going on and never will until someone tells them no.

Once again, me and my ass backwards self… Not only did I know who was in which office, I personally knew a few of the state legislators when I was growing up. When I was in college, I’d pop up in the hotel where some of them stayed just to catch up on things.

Seems like I had an effed up childhood. I missed out on a lot of laziness and crap where I could have been sorry as hell instead of working full time through my last two years of high school and college. If only I had a time machine.

Simple Truths

February 7th, 2013
10:25 am

Jay @ 9:56

“the Republicans have lost all stomach for a debt-ceiling fight. They realized they were writing checks with their mouth that they did not dare try to cash … so to speak.”

While what you say is true, I disagree that the GOP mutation will be the top political story. I think it will center around the economy and money issues.

Joe Hussein Mama

February 7th, 2013
10:25 am

T. Heyward — “look it up yourself.”

In other words, it’s just something you think or believe — not something you can actually prove.

Stats or it didn’t happen.