Georgia won’t be battleground in GOP civil war
For the GOP establishment, the lesson of the last two election cycles is clear: We can’t continue to let the party be hijacked by candidates and spokesmen from the far right. Not only have they cost the party a number of winnable Senate seats, they have tainted the party brand and contributed to its reputation as extremist.
Toward that end, Fox News is purging itself of the likes of Sarah Palin and Dick Morris. Karl Rove is forming a new SuperPAC, dedicated to ensuring that ultra-conservative tea-party candidates such as Todd Akin of Missouri, Richard Mourdock of Indiana, Christine O’Donnell of Delaware and Sharron Angle of Nevada never make it through GOP primaries and onto the general-election ballot, where they have proved disasters.
That hasn’t set well with the GOP’s conservative tea-party wing, which insists that the party’s woes can be blamed on just the sort of moderation that Rove advocates. The dispute sets up a battle likely to determine the future course of the Republican Party, but where will that battle take place? Nationally, attention has begun to focus on Georgia and the Senate seat that becomes open in 2014.
(For examples, see the New York Times, the Christian Science Monitor and ABC News.)
At first blush, that makes sense, because we fit so many of the parameters of a perfect test case:
– The seat is open because a veteran Republican senator, Saxby Chambliss, declined to seek re-election after his efforts at budget compromise earned him the dreaded RINO tag.
– We have a conservative GOP base that tends to gravitate toward the most conservative candidate in the field, and if the tea-party movement has faded in other parts of the country, it remains a force to be reckoned with here in the Peach State. In other words, a Mourdock or Akin could win here.
– We are a red state — Mitt Romney won here by eight percentage points — but we are undergoing demographic changes that might, under perfect circumstances, allow a Democratic candidate to win a statewide race in 2014, as occurred in Missouri and Indiana.
– Most of all, we have Paul Broun.
The controversial, even cartoonish congressman from Georgia’s 10th District fits perfectly into the Akin-Mourdock mold. He has an avid following among the most extreme Georgia conservatives, and he also has a penchant for the bizarre — likening President Obama to Hitler, calling him a Marxist, describing evolution and the Big Bang theory as “lies straight from the pit of hell” — that would make him vulnerable in a Georgia general election.
So there you go: in Broun and Georgia, the GOP establishment has a perfect test case of its campaign to pull the party back from the brink and toward the center, right?
Wrong, and here’s why: That case requires you to believe that Broun is a realistic threat to win the GOP nomination in Georgia, and he is not. People are trying to cast him in a role that grossly exaggerates both his ability and appeal. Among other problems, he won’t be able to raise enough money to compete statewide, and he doesn’t have the statewide network to offset that deficiency.
Most important, Broun isn’t running against Chambliss. By the time it’s complete, the GOP primary field will be brim-full of candidates with impeccable conservative credentials but without Broun’s penchant for foolishness. Broun simply won’t have the ideological space to define himself as THE conservative in the race, only as the crazy one. By the time Georgia Republicans go to the polls, the congressman from the 10th will be more sideshow than threat, and Rove and his SuperPAC don’t need to do a single thing to make that happen.
– Jay Bookman
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Granny Godzilla
February 7th, 2013
3:20 pm
Joe Walsh forming super PAC to fight Karl Rove’s super PAC
http://www.democraticunderground.com/1014391377.
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What’s next jello wrestling?
Rock, Paper, Scissors, Mr. Spock?
Hair pulling?
Cream pies at 20 paces?
indigo
February 7th, 2013
3:20 pm
Thomas Hewyard, Jr. – 2:41
I did not say Broun was involved in killing terrorists. I was talking about Obama.
What is this “fake Islamic threat” you speak of?
“I merely want to be left alone”
What are you smoking?
getalife
February 7th, 2013
3:21 pm
“TEA PARTY REP: DON’T GIVE US YOUR POOR, YOUR TIRED, YOUR HUDDLED MASSES” HP
Hilarious. This immigration debate is going to be great.
Brosephus™
February 7th, 2013
3:21 pm
Call me conservative but the Democrats have been in charge for a while. Spending more than they have.
I won’t call you conservative as that’s demeaning to true conservatives. What I will call you, though, is ill-informed. Dems are in control of the Senate and the White House. All appropriations bills, you know the legislation that actually directs government spending, must begin in the House. The GOP has controlled the House since Jan 2011. Of the four trillion dollar deficits, I think they’re equally split 2-2 between the parties now.
Stevie Ray..Clowns to the left and Jokers to the right..here I am...
February 7th, 2013
3:22 pm
Jay
February 7th, 2013
2:52 pm
Heck Jay, Sarah Palin would never get elected….her looks are a negative for women voters in many circles.
williebkind
February 7th, 2013
3:22 pm
“I just think it’s a bit odd that the memo you cite–which is of course a legitimate story–suddenly seems to have been a teaching moment about a program that we all knew about for years.”
It is suddenly a teaching moment when I heard it was American citizens being targeted for death without due process. The terrorists held in GB were afforded more constitutional rights than our citizens. As the liberals always end the sentence…that is just not us.
DownInAlbany
February 7th, 2013
3:23 pm
sfd, no, the use of drones is not news. The use of drones with permission to use it on citizens was news to me. I call myself “informed.” I guess not…at least on this example.
Anyway…
williebkind
February 7th, 2013
3:25 pm
“What’s next jello wrestling?
Rock, Paper, Scissors, Mr. Spock?
Hair pulling?
Cream pies at 20 paces?”
Me and you GG?
godless heathen - owner of many things he does not need
February 7th, 2013
3:25 pm
Not that there’s anything wrong with that.
Brosephus™
February 7th, 2013
3:26 pm
This drone thingy or at least where it appears to be heading flys in the face of what we thougth we could expect from BO namely, an improved reputation and transparency.
Can’t answer for anybody else, but I expected business as usual. One thing that people tend to forget is that, when an administration changes, there are a few people who leave and are replaced. Most of the people who do the footwork stay around. You can’t turn a supertanker around in a matter of seconds, and you’re not going to change the operation of the US government with a period of 4-8 years. Just not gonna happen.
the more time he remains at the helm of commander, the more he resembles Bush…remember weapons of mass destruction?
Well, I’ve only been calling him Bush 2.0 *Now with enhanced melanin since 2009. I don’t know why y’all don’t wanna listen to a brotha!!!
TBS
February 7th, 2013
3:26 pm
“You are correct. Obama won by 6 million votes and 8 million conservatives that voted for McCain did not vote in this election.”
And the excuses pile is getting close to touching the moon……. If this, if that, what if,
Anyone can basically pick any demographic they wish and say this or that would have happened if more of that demographic voted.
Romney lost. End of story.
td
February 7th, 2013
3:26 pm
Neither the secretary of defense nor the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff spoke to the secretary of state during the 8-hour attack on the U.S. consulate in Benghazi, Libya on September 11, 2012. At a Thursday hearing in the Senate, Republican Ted Cruz asked both Leon Panetta and Martin Dempsey, “In between 9:42 p.m., Benghazi time, when the first attacks started, and 5:15 am, when Mr. Doherty and Mr. Woods lost their lives, what converations did either of you have with Secretary Clinton?”
“We did not have any conversations with Secretary Clinton,” Panetta responded.
“And General Dempsey, the same is true for you?” Cruz asked. Dempsey confirmed this. Watch the video below:
http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/no-word-hillary-during-benghazi-attack_700410.html
Stevie Ray..Clowns to the left and Jokers to the right..here I am...
February 7th, 2013
3:27 pm
stands for decibels
February 7th, 2013
3:19 pm
Hate to admit it but you make an excellent point about the memo stating the program we have all known about for years.
I always thought I would be across the mote from war hawk republicans in my distaste over these drone killings. Now I’m getting LIBS who I never thought would support this tactic.
USA, making new enemies daily.
indigo
February 7th, 2013
3:27 pm
If Obama were not actively seeking out and killing terriorists, you cons would be shouting “soft on terriorism”.
Now that he is, you’re accusing him of murder.
Its clear that, no matter what he does, you will harshly critize him.
This, of course, means that no one will take you seriously and will regard your pitiful rantings with nothing but contempt.
stands for decibels
February 7th, 2013
3:27 pm
It is suddenly a teaching moment when I heard it was American citizens being targeted for death without due process.
and, again–just now?
You couldn’t give a sh-t about this earlier, you didn’t think to have your GOP presidential candidates discuss it during the primaries, etc. but now?
Golly. why? is it that ol’ walking + chewing gum thingie?
as for what the DFHs were doing…
http://www.aclu.org/blog/tag/anwar-al-awlaki
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
February 7th, 2013
3:27 pm
BOTH
We still on for this afternoon?
Jefferson
February 7th, 2013
3:28 pm
Tea party is a great example of why marriges end in divoice. If you don’t bend you break.
DownInAlbany
February 7th, 2013
3:28 pm
Brosephus™
February 7th, 2013
3:26 pm
You can’t turn a supertanker around in a matter of seconds, and you’re not going to change the operation of the US government with a period of 4-8 years. Just not gonna happen.
But, I thought Bush destroyed the US in about the amount of time?
Redneck Convert (R--and proud of it)
February 7th, 2013
3:28 pm
Well, I sorta like this drone thingie because they can kill people I don’t like and it ain’t on me.
Just like GA is going to give the needle to two killers this month and I like that but it ain’t on me because I never had nothing to do with it. That “Thou shalt no kill” comanmant can’t be used against me because I won’t be within 75 miles of where they’re doing the killing.
I just wish some of my enemas would go overseas for awhile. That would allow me to write a good letter to the White House pointing out a target or two.
Brosephus™
February 7th, 2013
3:29 pm
It is suddenly a teaching moment when I heard it was American citizens being targeted for death without due process.
Al-Alwaki was killed September 30, 2011 with no trial held. You just now found out he was killed without due process???? That explains many of your posts.
godless heathen - owner of many things he does not need
February 7th, 2013
3:29 pm
Joe Walsh forming super PAC
The James Gang was a better band name. Just sayin’.
Jefferson
February 7th, 2013
3:29 pm
And yet he did…
Stevie Ray..Clowns to the left and Jokers to the right..here I am...
February 7th, 2013
3:30 pm
indigo
February 7th, 2013
3:27 pm
I tend to agree with most of the folks in the middle east, under Bush we exercised terrorism and it obviously won’t stop with BO..
None of these cretins present an imminent threat to our shores…..so let’s play loosey goosey with definitions..
td
February 7th, 2013
3:30 pm
TBS
February 7th, 2013
3:26 pm
“You are correct. Obama won by 6 million votes and 8 million conservatives that voted for McCain did not vote in this election.”
And the excuses pile is getting close to touching the moon……. If this, if that, what if,
Anyone can basically pick any demographic they wish and say this or that would have happened if more of that demographic voted.
Romney lost. End of story.
If you do not analysis the reasons for a lose then you can not improve and make sure it does not happen again.
I have said before that the Romney lost because Obama’s team had a much better game plan. Plain and simple.
Thomas
February 7th, 2013
3:30 pm
If it’s a legitimate rape, the female body has ways to try to shut that whole thing down.
And he is correct Jay. That is why we are allowing females to join the military as women are able to side step the effects of bullets and shrapnel by simply shutting down- killing machines that simply don’t die. Get with the program Jay.
Stevie Ray..Clowns to the left and Jokers to the right..here I am...
February 7th, 2013
3:32 pm
td
February 7th, 2013
3:30 pm
Clearly a better marketing strategy…lucky Romney was a dope or BO may be back in Chicago about now.
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
February 7th, 2013
3:32 pm
BOTH
Might be just a trifle late depending on traffic.
Brosephus™
February 7th, 2013
3:34 pm
But, I thought Bush destroyed the US in about the amount of time?
You haven’t heard that from me. Bush was merely the one on watch when the iceberg was struck.
stands for decibels
February 7th, 2013
3:34 pm
Al-Alwaki was killed September 30, 2011 with no trial held.
How many GOP presidential debates were held, since that date?
How many times did those “freedom-loving” candidates speak up against this outrage?
(ok, granted, Ron Paul mighta said something. I’m too lazy to look it up.)
Paul
February 7th, 2013
3:35 pm
Keep Up 2:53
Nice try…
getalife
“Time to… address their (troops’) suicides.”
Something the NRA still opposes.
td 3:08
” the president left operational details, including knowledge of what resources were available to help the Americans under siege, “up to us.””
I’d guess the military establishment appreciated being left alone to address a fast-breaking situation, rather than being interrupted every few minutes with questions ‘what happened since we last talked?” and “what are the options you guys discussed since the last update?” and “I need more information so I can tell other people what’s going on.”
Granny Godzilla
February 7th, 2013
3:35 pm
williebkind
February 7th, 2013
3:25 pm
“What’s next jello wrestling?
Rock, Paper, Scissors, Mr. Spock?
Hair pulling?
Cream pies at 20 paces?”
Me and you GG?
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Pocketbook nunchucks and crochet hooks at dawn?
DownInAlbany
February 7th, 2013
3:36 pm
Brosephus™
February 7th, 2013
3:34 pm
You’re right, Bro. Not meant to be a personal “attack.”
Stevie Ray..Clowns to the left and Jokers to the right..here I am...
February 7th, 2013
3:36 pm
Brosephus™
February 7th, 2013
3:34 pm
Funny how it appears Bush’s defense strategies have remained pretty much in tact….must be somewhat flattering to Bush.
JamVet
February 7th, 2013
3:36 pm
Romney lost because he was the weakest GOP candidate in nearly a hundred years.
And of all his glaring shortcomings the one that he could not hide from the American people was that he was amazingly unprincipled.
And unfit to lead.
stands for decibels
February 7th, 2013
3:37 pm
The James Gang was a better band name. Just sayin’.
Seems to me, you don’t wanna talk about it…
(great live version, if you’ve never seen it…)
williebkind
February 7th, 2013
3:37 pm
” I don’t know why y’all don’t wanna listen to a brotha!!!
”
You a brother?
retiredds
February 7th, 2013
3:39 pm
Let the games begin!! Or should we make this into a new TV reality show entitled: Political Survivor the GOP Way
CNN- February 7th, 2013
02:35 PM ET
Rep. Steve King hasn’t even declared whether or not he will run for the U.S. Senate.
But on Thursday the Iowa Republican sent a plea to supporters charging veteran GOP strategist Karl Rove was marshaling forces against him in a preemptive effort to push him out of the race.
“Karl Rove and his army have launched a crusade against me,” he wrote in an email published online by the Des Moines Register.
williebkind
February 7th, 2013
3:39 pm
“Pocketbook nunchucks and crochet hooks at dawn?”
Where am I to get crochet hooks…hmmm.?
williebkind
February 7th, 2013
3:41 pm
“Romney lost because he was the weakest GOP candidate in nearly a hundred years.”
Yep it is more important to have personality than work experience.
Common Sense isn't very Common
February 7th, 2013
3:43 pm
RC
The death panels are reserved for PBR drinkers
stands for decibels
February 7th, 2013
3:44 pm
Yep it is more important to have personality than work experience.
And here’s what the folks most intimately familiar with Mitt’s work experience thought of it.
clem
February 7th, 2013
3:44 pm
i hear the tea party is now undesirable term due to the connotations, so i guess they should stick with stupid party
JamVet
February 7th, 2013
3:44 pm
stands, maybe my fave JG song ever…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-6P3aLrGz6k
комиссар (Occupation)
February 7th, 2013
3:44 pm
indigo: “If Obama were not actively seeking out and killing terriorists, you cons would be shouting “soft on terriorism” / Now that he is, you’re accusing him of murder”
Yes, but murder it is. And therefore we should acknowledge when they speak truth. Regardless of how disingenuous their speaking of that truth may be.
Uh Huh....
February 7th, 2013
3:44 pm
God gave us our relatives, thank God we can choose our POLITICANS.
JamVet
February 7th, 2013
3:45 pm
GWB had tons of “work experience” and was the worst American president since Herbert Hoover.
Joe Hussein Mama
February 7th, 2013
3:45 pm
td — “Neither the secretary of defense nor the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff spoke to the secretary of state during the 8-hour attack on the U.S. consulate in Benghazi, Libya on September 11, 2012.”
Not surprising, since the physical security of embassies and consulates is not the job of the DoD. It’s a host nation responsibility.
Brosephus™
February 7th, 2013
3:46 pm
Stevie Ray
See my 3:26 post. Even though Bush is gone, much of the current government work force that’s working today was working under him. New administrations don’t effect enough rule changes to alter the way the job gets done.
Keep Up the Good Fight!
February 7th, 2013
3:47 pm
A false war that kills thousands of Americans and the cons have no problem. Waterboarding and torture, no problem. Kill an American who is a threat to US and a terrorist and suddenly the cons are suddenly troubled.
Liberals and progressives have been concerned about all of these.
Looks like the con create some parking issues after the fact:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/02/06/israel-handicapped-spot-car-towed_n_2632322.html
Paul
February 7th, 2013
3:49 pm
Joe Hussein Mama
I’m guessing we’re seeing the buildup to the next wave of “The President didn’t care what happened at Benghazi. He didn’t even act like a Commander In Chief and tell the military what to do”
brought to us by the same people who like to say “but we coulda won in Vietnam if Johnson had let the military alone and let them fight the war instead of picking targets and getting in the way!!”
stands for decibels
February 7th, 2013
3:50 pm
stands, maybe my fave JG song ever…
might be time to dig out some vinyl tonight.
stands for decibels
February 7th, 2013
3:52 pm
Love to hang and chat about old stuff (dead dronees, the James Gang. VP vetting) but other stuff awaits. Later, perhaps…
TBS
February 7th, 2013
3:52 pm
td
Both the DNC and RNC parse the demographics like there is no tomorrow. They spend millions on targeting these demographics and of course do studies and analysis after each election. I’m with you on that.
My point about anyone taking any given demographic is true because that is what you did. The assumption that if any given party gets 8m more voters from any given demographic and it will just be static on the other side is asinine.
Less people voted in 2012 than in 08. It wasn’t just evangelical Christians.
Regnad Kcin
February 7th, 2013
3:55 pm
“(great live version, if you’ve never seen it…)”
Saw it live at the recording of “Don Kirschner’s Rock Concert” TV show – you can hear that version on (I think) “You can’t argue with a sick mind” – a surprisingly appropriate title to mention on this blog.
Joe Hussein Mama
February 7th, 2013
3:59 pm
Paul — “I’m guessing we’re seeing the buildup to the next wave of “The President didn’t care what happened at Benghazi. He didn’t even act like a Commander In Chief and tell the military what to do”
It’s absolutely incredible to me that anyone can think that flying a fully-equipped AC-130 into Libyan airspace and then punching holes in the suburban neighborhood where the Benghazi consulate was located would be in any way a good idea. Can anyone imagine a scenario in which that doesn’t end with the host nation telling us to GTFO?
When your embassy/consulate personnel are threatened, you call on the HOST NATION to protect them. That’s the way embassies and consulates work the whole world around. There’s not a detachment of American troops detailed to engage in combat if the grounds come under fire. The Marine detachments that embassies have are there to protect classified materials, classified commo gear and to — if necessary — protect embassy staff. That said, those detachments are usually quite small and aren’t well-equipped with the sort of weapons and gear needed to engage in a protracted firefight. That’s why you call on the host nation to protect your embassies and staff.
I have a great deal of respect for the Marine Security Detachments in embassies, especially those who are in dangerous parts of the world. It’s got to be scary to be out there with your azz hanging out in the wind, lightly armed and hours and hours away from any sort of American help or evacuation.
In the middle
February 7th, 2013
4:01 pm
Most of the Republican pushback against drones has been against using them inside the United States. The “outcry” is being led by Democrats (Time Magazine Feb. 5 2013). Both Democrat and Republican Senators have asked the Justice Department for the legal opinion.
This sounds pretty bi-partisan.
St Simons - he-ne-ha
February 7th, 2013
4:01 pm
“….they have tainted the party brand and contributed to its
reputation as extremist…”
and the Oscar for ‘Understatement’ goes to….
if you take out the religious fundies, the private-life bedroom creepers,
the ‘1% Bif & Chaz at the Yacht Club,’ and the AM radio clowns,
all they”ll have left is a couple of guys in an airport bathroom stall.
Keep Up the Good Fight!
February 7th, 2013
4:02 pm
JHM, you’re missing the entire problem. Your explanation works only if you thrown in some way to blame Obama. Now you work that in there, and hey, you have got an answer.
JKL2
February 7th, 2013
4:03 pm
jamvet- GWB had tons of “work experience” and was the worst American president since Herbert Hoover.
Another fine example:
Bush spending = worst president ever
obama spending=greatest president ever, some say better than Washington and Lincoln
If Bush was african-American, his presidency would be a non-issue today.
indigo
February 7th, 2013
4:08 pm
Stevie Ray – 3:30
“None of these cretins present a legtimate threat to our shores”.
Oh really.
And you know this how?
DownInAlbany
February 7th, 2013
4:09 pm
Joe Hussein Mama
February 7th, 2013
3:59 pm
It’s absolutely incredible to me that anyone can think that flying a fully-equipped AC-130 into Libyan airspace and then punching holes in the suburban neighborhood where the Benghazi consulate was located would be in any way a good idea. Can anyone imagine a scenario in which that doesn’t end with the host nation telling us to GTFO?
But, it’s ok to use drones to kill insurgents in, say, Afghanistan?
GTFO? Maybe, that’s what we should do?
indigo
February 7th, 2013
4:10 pm
JKL2 – 4:03
Don’t be bashful boy!!!
Come right out and say it!!
You want to go back to normal with a white man in the White House.
Brosephus™
February 7th, 2013
4:14 pm
If Bush was african-American, his presidency would be a non-issue today.
If
BushClinton was african-American, his presidency would be a non-issue today.If
BushReagan was african-American, his presidency would be a non-issue today.If
BushCarter was african-American, his presidency would be a non-issue today.Let’s just give everybody a melanin pass. Seems that both sides use past administrations as whipping posts. As a matter of fact. Let’s just make February 7th National Melanin Pass Day. Anybody with issues can simply use their pass to make their issues a non-issue.
barking frog
February 7th, 2013
4:15 pm
PC the White House and call it the President’s Residence….
barking frog
February 7th, 2013
4:16 pm
The President has been cut no slack because he says he’s black.
getalife
February 7th, 2013
4:18 pm
jk,
w was a disaster.
Our President cleaned up his mess.
Show some respect.
Doggone/GA
February 7th, 2013
4:20 pm
“If Bush was african-American, his presidency would be a non-issue today”
that’s right…because he never would have gotten through the primaries to even run for President
TaxPayer
February 7th, 2013
4:21 pm
Cons don’t have to worry about no drones so long as they have their second amendment protected AK-47. Don’t fear the drone. Unless you a terrorist.
JamVet
February 7th, 2013
4:21 pm
The man left office with an approval rating of 22%. And only 18% among independents!
That you frame the argument in terms of race is interesting, if not bizarre.
That today’s Republicans desperately try to sweep all of this under the rug and pretend it never happened is a big reason, I believe, why Americans no longer trust them to lead. And why McCain and Romney both got crushed by a very ordinary opponent.
And unless and until they start owning up to the massive failures of their recent history, I don’t believe that we will see another Republican in the White House for another two or three elections at least…
JKL2
February 7th, 2013
4:21 pm
indigo- You want to go back to normal with a white man in the White House
I would settle for someone competent. Hillary would have been a much better choice. It’s a shame the Democrats threw her under the bus.
Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me.
President obama: Shame on America!
Jefferson
February 7th, 2013
4:25 pm
Actually it was the republicans who should have voted for Hillary, as they ran butt sniffers….they can only blame themselves.
JKL2
February 7th, 2013
4:25 pm
getalife- w was a disaster. Our President cleaned up his mess. Show some respect.
Thanks for example #2.
Do something to deserve respect, and I’ll show it. Sorry, but I don’t give free passes because of skin color. I choose to base my decisions on content of character. It’s a shame more people don’t try doing that.
Regnad Kcin
February 7th, 2013
4:25 pm
“Let’s just make February 7th National Melanin Pass Day. Anybody with issues can simply use their pass to make their issues a non-issue.”
But, but, but, melanin is the most important thing in the world!
I faced some culture shock when I moved out here (decades ago) from California. We knew that ethnicity existed, but here were just so many different kinds of folks, it took too much effort to keep them sorted out, so we mostly didn’t bother.
Take Tiger Woods, who’s half-Korean, quarter white, and quarter black. Who has time to figure out what that means? It just wasn’t important enough to deal with.
When we moved to Georgia, we could tell there was sub-text we just weren’t getting – people didn’t act the way we were used to, and we didn’t know why. We finally learned about the Georgia “racial zeitgeist.” It still doesn’t seem worth the effort to deal with what is, at most, a superficial difference. *shrug*
getalife
February 7th, 2013
4:27 pm
Shame on you jk.
You have no respect of the office.
JKL2
February 7th, 2013
4:28 pm
doggone- that’s right…because he never would have gotten through the primaries to even run for President
Like you peace loving Democrats did to Herman Cain?
Regnad Kcin
February 7th, 2013
4:32 pm
“Like you peace loving Democrats did to Herman Cain?”
I’m pretty sure that if the Republicans wanted him as their candidate, they could have voted for him. It’s disingenuous to blame democrats who didn’t even vote in the primary.
James
February 7th, 2013
4:32 pm
“. . . under perfect circumstances, . . .”
Perfect for whom? Relax, Bookman – you won’t live long enough to see that happen. Despite how desperately you want it.
Doggone/GA
February 7th, 2013
4:32 pm
“Like you peace loving Democrats did to Herman Cain?”
Nope, like the peace loving Republicans did to Herman Cain. All we did was sit back and laugh.
Keep Up the Good Fight!
February 7th, 2013
4:33 pm
Ooohhhh… look! Its another episode of “Pouts and Rants without Facts”. This one includes the “Hillary was the better choice even though we always hated her” and “Poor Hermy Cain, a victim of women he sexually harassed”. And with bonus footage: If only Bush had been….
JKL2
February 7th, 2013
4:33 pm
getalife- You have no respect of the office
Tons of respect for the office. Unfortunately we have a clown sitting in the seat. It would be nice if the “leader of the free world” knew the first thing about leadership.
It would be nice if he would pull a Clinton. Spend all his time chasing interns around the office and let the Republican Congress take care of business.
godless heathen - owner of many things he does not need
February 7th, 2013
4:33 pm
(great live version, if you’ve never seen it…)
Excellant, stands!
Spinning some rock tunes will bring JamVet out every time.
JamVet
February 7th, 2013
4:36 pm
Not for one fraction of a second do I believe that the hard core Republicans would have treated Ms. Clinton one iota better than they have President Obama.
Maybe I’m wrong and talk of making her a failure would have begun on day three of her first term instead of day two like it did for the current CiC…
JKL2
February 7th, 2013
4:38 pm
doggone- Nope, like the peace loving Republicans did to Herman Cain. All we did was sit back and laugh
What ever happened to that poor women he harrassed? After he dropped out, all the liberal media attack dogs running her story 24/7 suddenly grew silent and lost all interest.
The Republicans had nothing to do with him dropping out.
skipper
February 7th, 2013
4:40 pm
Al-Alwaki (sp?) needed a good killin’…………..you want to fight a war you kill the terrorists. You cannot be serious about trying to capture this maggot and bringing him back here. WTF… and this country was not built on maggots like this being a frickin’ citizen. Be glad it ain’t WWII (see Dresden and other German cities.) At least we dusted of this scum and his snotty youngun’ and did not totally bomb out the place and kill everybody. This is just the debate those a$$holes want.their next move will be to increase their recruiting over here, knowing that they will be protected over there.
Cheesy Grits is gone but not forgotten
February 7th, 2013
4:43 pm
What ever happened to that poor women he harrassed?
It wasn’t just one.
I think at last count there were about 6
So many they have their own slideshow on the net
Are all 6 women lying ???
JKL2
February 7th, 2013
4:44 pm
regnad- It’s disingenuous to blame democrats who didn’t even vote in the primary.
You have me voting for Cain while Jefferson wants me voting for Hillary.
I vote for people who are on the ballet. Unless you are running for junior high school VP, it’s hard to make it as a write in.
JKL2
February 7th, 2013
4:48 pm
cheesy- It wasn’t just one. I think at last count there were about 6
So what happened to all of them? Why are you so heartless to their plight that you dropped the case once Herman withdrew? Something so important the media had broadcast it 24/7 surely wouldn’t be brushed aside once the liberals acheived their objective for reporting the story would they?
If the person has an (R) behind their name, the important thing is the seriousness of the charge rather than if an actual crime was committed.
Cheesy Grits is gone but not forgotten
February 7th, 2013
4:49 pm
Most of Georgia voted for Newt Gingrich.
If only he were President
Gas would be free and some of us would be living on the moon as we speak.
Pity.
Cheesy Grits is gone but not forgotten
February 7th, 2013
4:51 pm
So what happened to all of them?
Most of them were paid off to go away.
Wonder why ?
Keep Up the Good Fight!
February 7th, 2013
4:51 pm
What ever happened to that poor women he harrassed? After he dropped out, all the liberal media attack dogs running her story 24/7 suddenly grew silent and lost all interest
My recollection is that some had already settled and had been paid. But, their objection was to his qualification to be President. SO when he dropped out, what was to pursue further?
This has been another episode of “Simple explanation to Irrational Nonsensical Rants”
Cheesy Grits is gone but not forgotten
February 7th, 2013
4:55 pm
So what happened to all of them? Why are you so heartless to their plight that you dropped the case once Herman withdrew? Something so important the media had broadcast it 24/7 surely wouldn’t be brushed aside once the liberals acheived their objective for reporting the story would they?
Sure it would. Because once out of the race Cain is no longer important.
Nobody cared about Donna Rice after Gary Hart dropped out of sight either.
That is the way the world works. Who woke you up ?
JamVet
February 7th, 2013
4:59 pm
Herman’s problems as a candidate were numerous and notable.
Clearly the man was nowhere near being capable for the office he was seeking. The man has never run for and won any elected office in his entire life – not even dogcatcher. Yet he felt he was ready to be the leader of the free world?
Much more damning was the litany of stupid and insensitive things the man has said – the direct consequence of being a political talk radio host. That job on one’s resume alone is a deal killer for most voters.
But for me, it was not the 999 thing or the balcks on the plantation thing or even the groping thing that was his most egregious failing as a man.
When he said that he was too young to participate in the civil rights movement (he was 20 years old in 1965) it was obvious he had an integrity and moral courage issue.
And ultimately, just like his party’s nominee, the people of this country found him unfit to lead…
TaxPayer
February 7th, 2013
5:00 pm
Gas would be free and some of us would be living on the moon as we speak.
And the womens woulda had free aspirin for both the birth control and the headache.
pogo
February 7th, 2013
5:02 pm
And Jay continues his lecture on republican politics. And the answer still is that the party that promises and delivers the most “free stuff” to the masses will win and it does not matter if this is leading to this country’s demise. We now have a majority of people in this country who do not care what the cost is to our society just as long as they get what they need for free. Jay, we are headed for one party rule and that is exactly what you want because you have spent many many hours creating the propaganda to do it. And then, your man can destroy his detractors with impunity both physically and ideologically. Think of yourself as an ideological drone Jay because that is exactly what you and Luckovich and the rest of the liberals in the printed and electronic media have become for Obama. You have become mindless followers. You question nothing. One day your children will proud of you. Of course by now, thanks to you, they are more probably more than willing to serve a master.
DownInAlbany
February 7th, 2013
5:02 pm
Cheesy Grits is gone but not forgotten
February 7th, 2013
4:51 pm
So what happened to all of them?
Most of them were paid off to go away.
Link, please?
Thomas Heyward Jr
February 7th, 2013
5:04 pm
You’ll recall that in 2012, Obummer signed the NDAA. This legislation authorizes the military to arrest and “indefinitely detain” American citizens Obummer dislikes — no charges, indictment or trial, and certainly no lawyers or evidence, necessary. Yep, that violates the Constitution. Big time. Not to mention American tradition, the last millennium of habeas corpus, and common decency. So Mr. Constitutional Law Professor insisted that he signed the bill with “serious reservations.” He also lied–sorry, promised that he would never, ever use NDAA’s powers — no, of course not, he merely collects such prerogatives as you or I would books or china cups, so he can set them on a shelf and admire them.
Several people immediately challenged the NDAA in court. And for a guy who so unenthusiastically signed the legislation in 2012 — and in 2013 as well — he has most vigorously defended it. Time after time, his lawyers have averred that it’s perfectly Constitutional to seize Americans merely on the president’s say-so, imprison them, and throw away the key. Judge Katherine Forrest declined to cooperate with such blatant evisceration of the Constitution and suspended the NDAA. Once again, Ole Reluctant Signer sprang into action, immediately appealing to the Second Circuit to overturn her ruling.
That hearing took place yesterday in New York City. And during the proceedings, Judge Lewis Kaplan “raised the fact that the ‘Executive Branch has been known to make things up.’”
Pretty bad when even the rubber-stamping courts admit that the Thief-in-Chief is a pathological liar.
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http://dissenter.firedoglake.com/2013/02/06/in-ndaa-lawsuit-government-claims-it-has-decade-of-experience-hasnt-detained-any-us-citizens/
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No matter how bad things get in the future………………………at least the decenjt folk can shave in the morning without being an Obama apologist.
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lol
Thomas Heyward Jr
February 7th, 2013
5:06 pm
What is it like for an Obama-Bot to gaze into the mirror?
What do they see?
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Anything?
Jefferson
February 7th, 2013
5:08 pm
The primary JK, the primary… you got to plan ahead.
RB from Gwinnett
February 7th, 2013
5:08 pm
“The man left office with an approval rating of 22%. And only 18% among independents!”
Yea, people were angry about rising unemployemnt and a crappy economy and guess what…4 years later we still have unemployement higher than when Bush left, the economy still sucks, and for some damn unknown reason, everybody loves Obama.
Maybe the low information liberals would be a little more useful in the collective effort to improve things if they would get their “news” from sources other than “Weekend Update” and “The View”????
appleseed
February 7th, 2013
5:09 pm
Seems the itchy finger syndrome is all over the country.This have gun will carry law makes them(law) quick on the draw.