Georgia won’t be battleground in GOP civil war

For the GOP establishment, the lesson of the last two election cycles is clear: We can’t continue to let the party be hijacked by candidates and spokesmen from the far right. Not only have they cost the party a number of winnable Senate seats, they have tainted the party brand and contributed to its reputation as extremist.

Toward that end, Fox News is purging itself of the likes of Sarah Palin and Dick Morris. Karl Rove is forming a new SuperPAC, dedicated to ensuring that ultra-conservative tea-party candidates such as Todd Akin of Missouri, Richard Mourdock of Indiana, Christine O’Donnell of Delaware and Sharron Angle of Nevada never make it through GOP primaries and onto the general-election ballot, where they have proved disasters.

That hasn’t set well with the GOP’s conservative tea-party wing, which insists that the party’s woes can be blamed on just the sort of moderation that Rove advocates. The dispute sets up a battle likely to determine the future course of the Republican Party, but where will that battle take place? Nationally, attention has begun to focus on Georgia and the Senate seat that becomes open in 2014.

(For examples, see the New York Times, the Christian Science Monitor and ABC News.)

At first blush, that makes sense, because we fit so many of the parameters of a perfect test case:

– The seat is open because a veteran Republican senator, Saxby Chambliss, declined to seek re-election after his efforts at budget compromise earned him the dreaded RINO tag.

– We have a conservative GOP base that tends to gravitate toward the most conservative candidate in the field, and if the tea-party movement has faded in other parts of the country, it remains a force to be reckoned with here in the Peach State. In other words, a Mourdock or Akin could win here.

– We are a red state — Mitt Romney won here by eight percentage points — but we are undergoing demographic changes that might, under perfect circumstances, allow a Democratic candidate to win a statewide race in 2014, as occurred in Missouri and Indiana.

– Most of all, we have Paul Broun.

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The controversial, even cartoonish congressman from Georgia’s 10th District fits perfectly into the Akin-Mourdock mold. He has an avid following among the most extreme Georgia conservatives, and he also has a penchant for the bizarre — likening President Obama to Hitler, calling him a Marxist, describing evolution and the Big Bang theory as “lies straight from the pit of hell” — that would make him vulnerable in a Georgia general election.

So there you go: in Broun and Georgia, the GOP establishment has a perfect test case of its campaign to pull the party back from the brink and toward the center, right?

Wrong, and here’s why: That case requires you to believe that Broun is a realistic threat to win the GOP nomination in Georgia, and he is not. People are trying to cast him in a role that grossly exaggerates both his ability and appeal. Among other problems, he won’t be able to raise enough money to compete statewide, and he doesn’t have the statewide network to offset that deficiency.

Most important, Broun isn’t running against Chambliss. By the time it’s complete, the GOP primary field will be brim-full of candidates with impeccable conservative credentials but without Broun’s penchant for foolishness. Broun simply won’t have the ideological space to define himself as THE conservative in the race, only as the crazy one. By the time Georgia Republicans go to the polls, the congressman from the 10th will be more sideshow than threat, and Rove and his SuperPAC don’t need to do a single thing to make that happen.

– Jay Bookman

314 comments Add your comment

vinny

February 7th, 2013
12:44 pm

Speaking of crazies – How about that “Shemp” Biden – you know, Obama’s imbecilic side-kick.

Run, Shemp, run!

Jm

February 7th, 2013
12:45 pm

Sam Olens

Winner

Nough said

Jm

February 7th, 2013
12:47 pm

When do those negotiations with Iran that an unleashed Obama-Biden proposed?

Oh that’s right

The ayatollah rejected them

Good job guys

Stevie Ray..Clowns to the left and Jokers to the right..here I am...

February 7th, 2013
12:50 pm

JAY

It will be interesting to see if the divisive situation will affect poll numbers. If FOX news is divesting itself of the furthest of right pundits, maybe we will see same thing here..??

Not anytime in the next couple decades…

USinUK - former Girl Scout

February 7th, 2013
12:50 pm

a blog about GA politics and the wackjobs on the right have to immediately reply with “but … but … but … OBAMA”

why?

cuz they got nuttin.

LUCIFER

February 7th, 2013
12:53 pm

I really hope you are right Jay. Broun is an embarrasment to the people of the proud Peach State and it remains amazing to me that voters put him into office with his backward and potentially dangerous life views. As I said before, he has sh** for brains and people who support him have to weigh their own grip on reality.

Jm

February 7th, 2013
12:54 pm

Georgia’s 10th was repped by a guy named Broun
Who was widely known as a class clown
But before he screwed himself
Karl Rove put him back on the shelf
And poor Paul was no longer the talk of the town

Jay

February 7th, 2013
12:54 pm

jm, Olens shows every sign of angling for a run at governor, not senator.

zebra

February 7th, 2013
12:56 pm

Cartoonish is a good word to describe the entire far right, is it not? Broun is what you get when you redistrict for idiocy.

Moderate Line

February 7th, 2013
1:00 pm

Most Americans believe drone strikes are illegal.
By a two-to-one margin (48%-24%) American voters say they think it is illegal for the U.S. government to target its own citizens living abroad

Support or opposition to the legality of drone attacks on Americans does not vary by party identification. Republicans are just as likely as Democrats or independents to say it is illegal, or that the U.S. government can do it.

“In fact, in any given demographic category, approval of CIA drone attacks is 8 to 17 percentage points less than support for U.S. military attacks.”

http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/281685-poll-plurality-says-drone-strikes-on-us-citizens-abroad-is-illegal-

Stevie Ray..Clowns to the left and Jokers to the right..here I am...

February 7th, 2013
1:02 pm

JAY

I’m still stumped by the definition of “imminent”…does this mean Broun is an imminent threat?

Brosephus™

February 7th, 2013
1:02 pm

In regards to Broun, I’m wondering how long it will be before the people who are against politicians campaigning full time will chastise Broun for doing so. After all, he’s announcing his candidacy for a senate election in 2014 less than a month after being sworn in for his current House term.

Moderate Line

February 7th, 2013
1:03 pm

Moderate Line

February 7th, 2013
1:00 pm
Most Americans believe drone strikes(on American citizens) are illegal.

Stevie Ray..Clowns to the left and Jokers to the right..here I am...

February 7th, 2013
1:04 pm

Moderate Line

February 7th, 2013
1:00 pm

Whether or not it is an american, we have no right to take a single innocent life…our lifes here have no more value that anywhere else..It’s like BO said in his gun thingy…”if (spending more money)has a chance of saving one life, it’s worth it..”

Worth a chuckle

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2013/02/07/jon_stewart_obama_only_transparent_about_the_last_guys_secrets.html

Jm

February 7th, 2013
1:05 pm

Jay

Yes

But if I had to pick a good decent republican for either office, Sam would be my choice

Hopefully someone of his caliber or better shows up for the senate race

That excludes Handel and most other names that come immediately to mind

Maybe Sam Nunn isn’t busy…..

комиссар (Occupation)

February 7th, 2013
1:05 pm

“So there you go: in Broun and Georgia, the GOP establishment has a perfect test case of its campaign to pull the party back from the brink and toward the center, right?”

Why does a salvation for the Republican party — or any other party for that matter — have to lie at the “center”? Where does this idea come from?

A way forward for the Republicans, particularly one that appeals to younger voters, might very well entail serious compromise with the Ron Paul/libertarian wing of the party, and thus might not necessarily be very “centrist” at all, just more eclectic.

Stevie Ray..Clowns to the left and Jokers to the right..here I am...

February 7th, 2013
1:05 pm

Brosephus™

February 7th, 2013
1:02 pm

Gotta raise that money..better get good practice so he too can spend 30% of his time in DC raising money..just like all the others eh?

Jay

February 7th, 2013
1:08 pm

“A way forward for the Republicans, particularly one that appeals to younger voters, might very well entail serious compromise with the Ron Paul/libertarian wing of the party, and thus might not necessarily be very “centrist” at all, just more eclectic.

Well, it MIGHT be. But it won’t be. This “serious compromise” with the libertarians would require a complete rejection of the social conservatives, and I see no sign of that happening.

getalife

February 7th, 2013
1:08 pm

We got a fired cop killing cops with a 50 cal in Cali.

indigo

February 7th, 2013
1:10 pm

Lutheran pastor appologizes for taking part in Sandy Hook services.

And the crazy religious people just keep getting crazier.

http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/02/07/16882169-lutheran-pastor-apologizes-for-taking-part-in-sandy-hook-service?lite=

guy

February 7th, 2013
1:13 pm

Talk about the GOP and cons but there is not a lower form of life than obama and the crew. The cons and GOP may be as low as obama and the crew but not any lower. I don’t care if they won or not,they and the GOP are pathetic. They are all liars. All of them! How can anyone be proud of what’s happening in this country? It’s falling apart and we all just argue and argue. Unreal!

Stevie Ray..Clowns to the left and Jokers to the right..here I am...

February 7th, 2013
1:15 pm

JAY

Is compromise possible when it comes the pro-life, anti-gay sentiments within the christian voting block here in GA?

skipper

February 7th, 2013
1:15 pm

O’Reilly, Hannity
Maddow, Sharpton

All with their bully-pulpits, all extremists.

Shar

February 7th, 2013
1:15 pm

You make a good point, Mr. Bookman, but you are assuming that the anger within the GOP will have settled down by primary time and I’m not so sure that is a good bet.

Georgia is so very red and boasts such intransigent, emotion-driven ideologues as Jenny Beth Martin that I can easily see attempts at rational expediency withering and the two wings of the party smashing into each other in their support of the most extreme candidates as their standard-bearers.

Your argument would be more convincing in a less yellow dog Republican state. Here, I can easily see Broun ending up as the Republican candidate and in so doing providing Rove and Co. with an excellent object lesson in the ills of running a far, far-right statewide Republican. Rove might even stand back and let it happen with an eye toward reining in the Tea Party in 2016.

getalife

February 7th, 2013
1:15 pm

Moderate,

There is a drone debate going on and our President provided the memo by the bushies.

They might add more restrictions.

indigo

February 7th, 2013
1:16 pm

Moderaate Line – 1:00

Actually, a majority of Americans approve of these strikes.

http://rt.com/usa/news/drone-strikes-pew-cia-603/

HDB

February 7th, 2013
1:17 pm

“That case requires you to believe that Broun is a realistic threat to win the GOP nomination in Georgia, and he is not. People are trying to cast him in a role that grossly exaggerates both his ability and appeal. Among other problems, he won’t be able to raise enough money to compete statewide, and he doesn’t have the statewide network to offset that deficiency..”

Let us HOPE that this remains true…..those that like Broun remind me of a bowl of granola — what ain’t fruit or nuts is flakes!!

Brosephus™

February 7th, 2013
1:17 pm

Stevie Ray..Clowns to the left and Jokers to the right..here I am...

February 7th, 2013
1:18 pm

guy

February 7th, 2013
1:13 pm

Careful, lest you get shouted down by both sides like a denier of global warming….

Our elected officials are every bit as likely, if not more so, to use their postion for self promotion and gain as any wall street fat cat….no different.

Jm

February 7th, 2013
1:18 pm

“They might add more restrictions.”

The guy who has used drones for over a 1000 kills is going to restrict them?

Get, stand up is your next step

independent thinker

February 7th, 2013
1:18 pm

When Coulter, Hannity and Rove get thrown off Fox along with some of air head blonde commentators, I will start cheering. Getting rid of two imbeciles is not enough.

комиссар (Occupation)

February 7th, 2013
1:19 pm

Jay: “This “serious compromise” with the libertarians would require a complete rejection of the social conservatives, and I see no sign of that happening.”

I don’t either.

Then again, all it takes is one scurrying mouse step — or rat, as the case may be — to trigger an avalanche. Why one day they’re giving ground on ever ever ever allowing a single cent of tax hikes on the top income brackets and the next, they’re talking heroin legalization.

will-o-the-wisp

February 7th, 2013
1:20 pm

well, there is phil ‘terry schiavo’ gingrey, to choose from

Jay

February 7th, 2013
1:20 pm

Stevie Ray, no, but ALL of the GOP primary candidates will be taking that position, so Broun gets no footing there.

indigo

February 7th, 2013
1:20 pm

Jay, this is Georgia. The majority ignorant electorate here has shown they have no limit as to how crazed a candidate they will support.

Broun just might wind up being your Senator.

Then, we can all get back to rolling down the isles on Sundays.

guy

February 7th, 2013
1:21 pm

Stevie Ray, You are right but you want hear about it either. Like I said, they are all liars and deceivers! Both sides!

Stevie Ray..Clowns to the left and Jokers to the right..here I am...

February 7th, 2013
1:23 pm

BRO

I hope that the example set by Saxby of walking away from a position where dysfunction continues to spiral in the wrong direction is followed by others from both sides…

The honesty displayed saying he (nor anyone else I guess)can no longer be effective will hopefully be some kind of trend…

fair and balanced

February 7th, 2013
1:24 pm

How many Repub mouth pieces accused Obama of being too weak on terrorists and jeopardizing national security????????? Now the same Repubs. want to limit him killing terrorists with drones? Oh I get it- they are afraid of him becoming an angry Black man and committing tyranny thereby justifying the crazies buying more guns.

will-o-the-wisp

February 7th, 2013
1:24 pm

indigo, yes, 70% of population in more than 70% of GA land area, have high school or less education, whch explains a lot.

Brosephus™

February 7th, 2013
1:24 pm

Stevie Ray

Don’t hold your breath with that hope… I feel ya though.

Simple Truths

February 7th, 2013
1:25 pm

Continuing from downstairs:

“Jay’s political story of the week, month and probably the year continues to be the plight of the Republican Party and its belated effort to break its dependence on white, older Americans.”

guy

February 7th, 2013
1:26 pm

indigo, there you go calling the majority ignorant just because they don’t vote like you. That’s arrogance at it’s best. Real classy too!

Georgia, The " New Mississippi "

February 7th, 2013
1:26 pm

Jay, The Georgia GOP is not loaded with intellectual heavyweights . Broun is a viable , electable candidate in the Red (neck) State of Georgia. Kathy Cox ( armed with her GED ) was on the brink of obtaining a primary win for Gov. The rules of common sense , fair play and high ethical standards have been completely destroyed in Georgia under 10 years of GOP governance .

Stevie Ray..Clowns to the left and Jokers to the right..here I am...

February 7th, 2013
1:27 pm

JAY

You have really started to freak me out in the local politics arena.

I do see one ray of possible light, from what I’ve seen of him Kasim Reed (sp?) seems to be a guy trying to do the right thing.

thebob.bob

February 7th, 2013
1:28 pm

“to let the party be hijacked by candidates and spokesmen from the far right.”

The Party wasn’t hijacked. They invited the loonies in. They cheered when women were called sluts for wanting birth control, when abortion providers were called Murderers, when any American living in a city was not a “real American”. Sarah Palin was Chosen! Birthers? Jesus loves GW Bush? That was mainstream Republican thought.

Nixon invited the Racists, Reagan invited the NRA, GW Bush embraced the most radical Evangelicals.

No Hijacking occurred.

Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes

February 7th, 2013
1:28 pm

Toward that end, Fox News is purging itself of the likes of Sarah Palin and Dick Morris. Karl Rove is forming a new SuperPAC, dedicated to ensuring that ultra-conservative tea-party candidates such as Todd Akin of Missouri, Richard Mourdock of Indiana, Christine O’Donnell of Delaware and Sharron Angle of Nevada never make it through GOP primaries and onto the general-election ballot, where they have proved disasters.

Didn’t the Tea Party faithful assure us that they were not Republicans?

Christian Conservative

February 7th, 2013
1:28 pm

Wishful thinking jay… No way will we see another dem Senator in my lifetime…

Stevie Ray..Clowns to the left and Jokers to the right..here I am...

February 7th, 2013
1:29 pm

Kinda like the saying “i’d never join a club that wanted me as a member” may have twisted relevancy here….If you want this job….

Thomas

February 7th, 2013
1:31 pm

The earth has been around for no more than 180 years. God made animals so we can shoot them. Women need to do a better job cooking and cleaning. E=mchammered

Thomas Heyward Jr

February 7th, 2013
1:32 pm

“Not only have they cost the party a number of winnable Senate seats, they have tainted the party brand and contributed to its reputation as extremist.”
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Says the Obama-Bot murder by Drone apologist.
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What IS………an extremist?

getalife

February 7th, 2013
1:32 pm

So many slow news days we are stuck talking about a failed party trying to fix itself.

No scandals, no attacks on the homeland, no collapses and no more occupations.

The gop house say they will vote no on immigration so they will figure it out after 14.

Class of '98

February 7th, 2013
1:33 pm

A few thoughts: I’ve never been a big fan of Dick Morris. I was a fan of Sarah Palin right up until I heard her speak. She is still very easy on the eyes.

And it’s ironic to me that Broun would call the Big Bang Theory a lie from the pit of hell. Many theists believe the Big Bang Theory corroborates the bible. “Let there be light”.

Are you sure he wasn’t referring to the CBS sitcom? I think it’s overrated, but not hellish.

Stevie Ray..Clowns to the left and Jokers to the right..here I am...

February 7th, 2013
1:33 pm

Georgia, The ” New Mississippi ”

February 7th, 2013
1:26 pm

…”common sense, fair play and high standard to ethics have been destroyed..” On what political level/side is that not the case?

East Cobb RINO, Inc (LLC)

February 7th, 2013
1:33 pm

I look for the GOP primary to end up in a runoff. With the many factions of the GOP, hard to see anyone getting >50% first time around. Could end up like the POTUS election where all the candidates try to out-conservative one another in the primary only having to flip flop and defend their extreme positions in the general election. It is all one can hope for to give a Dem candidate a chance in this lunatic state.

Goldie

February 7th, 2013
1:34 pm

Broun, Price, Westmoreland et al — anytime they open their mouths, it’s just more embarrassment nation-wide that the state of GA has to endure!

JohnnyReb

February 7th, 2013
1:34 pm

Sarah Palin – death panels – ridicule from the left to the highest order. Remember?

Check this out. The money weasal from the WSJ seems to like death panels.

Will Legacy media, including our own beloved Jayster, ridicule Krugman?

Jerome Horwitz

February 7th, 2013
1:34 pm

CC – Checking out soon?

JohnnyReb

February 7th, 2013
1:35 pm

Stevie Ray..Clowns to the left and Jokers to the right..here I am...

February 7th, 2013
1:35 pm

Christian Conservative

February 7th, 2013
1:28 pm

Perhaps but maybe an independent, if we are lucky….

Joe Hussein Mama

February 7th, 2013
1:35 pm

Jm — “Sam Olens

Winner

Nough said”

How much of our money did he waste joining that suit against the ACA?

Shar

February 7th, 2013
1:35 pm

@Stevie Ray at 1:15: The Better Georgia statewide poll released on Monday pegged 20% of respondents supporting gay marriage in the state, 41% in favor of gay civil unions, 6% undecided and ‘only’ 34% against any legal recognition of gay partnerships. Coming so shortly after that constitutional amendment outlawing gay marriage, these figures show a slowly liberalizing influence. Maybe, just maybe compromise is not impossible in Georgia?

watch

February 7th, 2013
1:36 pm

Broun just proves that any neanderthal with opposable thumbs can get elected in this State.

WOW

February 7th, 2013
1:36 pm

The other thing Broun has against him is that if you look at the last few statewide Republican primaries, the most conservative candidate hasn’t won.

Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes

February 7th, 2013
1:37 pm

Matt321

February 7th, 2013
1:39 pm

Your analysis would be more compelling if you suggested a single Republican name that could clear the field of the likes of Broun.

If you followed the Zoller/Collins race for Congress, your theory was already tested. Doug Collins was a respectable, far right politician running from the state legislature to the federal legislature. However, he barely beat off a run-off by a right-wing radio host, Zoller, who was supported by the Tea Party right.

Paul Broun has given himself a lot of name recognition by taking so many crazy positions. The Republican base loves those crazy positions. I expect Broun to get flooded with cash and do well in a primary.

Stevie Ray..Clowns to the left and Jokers to the right..here I am...

February 7th, 2013
1:39 pm

JohnnyReb

February 7th, 2013
1:35 pm

Wow…perhaps Krugman got sick and tired of being on the island of acceptable deficits…is this a joke or did he really say:

“Eventually we do have a problem. That the population is getting older, health care costs are rising… there is this question of how we’re going to pay for the programs. The year 2025, the year 2030, something is going to have to give… … We’re going to need more revenue… Surely it will require some sort of middle class taxes as well… We won’t be able to pay for the kind of government the society will want without some increase in taxes… on the middle class, maybe a value added tax… And we’re also going to have to make decisions about health care, doc pay for health care that has no demonstrated medical benefits. So the snarky version… which I shouldn’t even say because it will get me in trouble is death panels and sales taxes is how we do this.”

Question I have is how much debt do we accumulate before this is realized?

In the middle

February 7th, 2013
1:39 pm

Getting rid of the whack jobs is a good idea. Extremists are only good at polarizing issues not solving them. However the new stratgy will never ever work. Regardlesss of what the Republicans do or say they will only be portrayed as racist nuts by the media. So there is really no incentive to change too much.

Jay

February 7th, 2013
1:39 pm

We already have death panels, JohnnyReb. They’re called insurance companies.

Thomas Heyward Jr

February 7th, 2013
1:39 pm

Broun, in September 2008, voted against the Emergency Economic Stabilization Act of 2008 which created the Troubled Asset Relief Program, or “TARP”
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Misht I add………the “wildly” successful TARP act.
sarc
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EXTREMIST!
EXTREMIST!

Class of '98

February 7th, 2013
1:41 pm

Krugman writes for the New York Times, not Wall Street Journal.

Thomas Heyward Jr

February 7th, 2013
1:43 pm

Broun was born in Atlanta, Georgia, the son of Gertrude Margaret (née Beasley) and Democratic Georgia state senator Paul Collins Broun, Sr. (1916–2005), who represented Athens and the surrounding area from 1963 to 2001. His paternal grandfather was a minister. Broun is a graduate of Athens High School and the University of Georgia at Athens (B.S., Chemistry, 1967) and earned his Doctor of Medicine (1971) from the Medical College of Georgia in Augusta. His internship was at Good Samaritan Hospital in Portland, Oregon and residency at University Hospital in Birmingham, Alabama. He then practiced general medicine; starting in 2002 he maintained a practice based solely on house calls.
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Although Broun is a member of the Republican party so that I would never vote for him…..I still think he has more decency in his little finger than every Chicago lawyer/politician that ever oozed out of Illinois.
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carry on.

TaxPayer

February 7th, 2013
1:44 pm

Actually Broun is the perfect fit for the party that doesn’t do math or science. He’s 100% GOP.

Jay

February 7th, 2013
1:45 pm

Matt, Collins ran in that primary as the true conservative against that gay-loving moderate woman Zoller. He ran to the right of her, which was a good strategy in the most conservative district in the state (Romney carried it by an astounding 48 points).

I don’t think you can draw many lessons from that district for a statewide race.

skipper

February 7th, 2013
1:45 pm

To call the terrorist that got snuffed an American citizen is bs. He gave that up when he left and joined a terrorist organization overseas that has done harm to us. Folks are trying to equate that with “They will shoot anybody.” That rag-headed snot-rag needed snuffin’ out, he got it, and I (the independent) praise the administration on this one.
Jay, good one about the insurance companies/death panels……… :)

Corbin Sharpe. I think, therefore I am...I think.

February 7th, 2013
1:46 pm

Moderate Line

February 7th, 2013
1:46 pm

Jay, I believe the more competitive the parties the better government you will get. Especially with only 10-20% voting in the primaries.

Stevie Ray..Clowns to the left and Jokers to the right..here I am...

February 7th, 2013
1:46 pm

Shar

February 7th, 2013
1:35 pm

Good to hear but we got too much of that good, old time religion here who will remain threatened by such hellish behavior. Seems to me a marriage license is a state issued document.

I think socially, we are following the European path…hopefully we are less than 20 years behind on womens and gay rights…

Keep Up the Good Fight!

February 7th, 2013
1:47 pm

I still think he has more decency in his little finger than every Chicago lawyer/politician that ever oozed out of Illinois

Its not the size of the finger but the dike you stick it in?

So what the Heywood is claiming is that Broun has a very small limited amount of decency… a pinky’s worth. Perhaps the measurement tool is the problem?

indigo

February 7th, 2013
1:49 pm

guy – 1:26

When a majority support those who say a raped woman can’t get pregnant and science is from the pits of hell, what am I supposed to call them?
Brilliant?

Stevie Ray..Clowns to the left and Jokers to the right..here I am...

February 7th, 2013
1:49 pm

Jay

February 7th, 2013
1:39 pm

You are correct but you have to agree that those words coming from that particular mouth is shocking…

As you say, insurance companies can be suggested as death panels, but for the masses insured by corporations who self insure, it is the corporation that lays out the terms….generally no risk shifting..

Corbin Sharpe. I think, therefore I am...I think.

February 7th, 2013
1:49 pm

skipper

February 7th, 2013
1:45 pm

They want to believe that president Obama will use drones against American citizens…it gives them a reason to buy more guns…

guy

February 7th, 2013
1:49 pm

Shar, no matter what polls say,some things human laws and polls say will never make what’s wrong right. All of us are going to end up doing what we want to do anyway. Like Hillary Clinton says,”what difference does it make at this time anyway?” We can do whatever we want,especially in this age.

getalife

February 7th, 2013
1:52 pm

The gop establishment rove leads destroyed our country.

They want to do it again and must be stopped at all costs.

Country first.

td

February 7th, 2013
1:52 pm

“Toward that end, Fox News is purging itself of the likes of Sarah Palin and Dick Morris. Karl Rove is forming a new SuperPAC, dedicated to ensuring that ultra-conservative tea-party candidates such as Todd Akin of Missouri, Richard Mourdock of Indiana, Christine O’Donnell of Delaware and Sharron Angle of Nevada never make it through GOP primaries and onto the general-election ballot, where they have proved disasters.”

Rove was on Greta a couple nights ago and called statements like the above an out right lie. He said his group was looking for the most conservative candidate in the state or area that they live in that is electable to support. He said his group was going to do a great deal more education of the candidates they support to make sure the right message gets out and to NOT fall into the traps of the left wing media. He said Mourdock and Akin would be Senators today if they had not fallen into the traps of the left.

indigo

February 7th, 2013
1:53 pm

Thomas Hewyard, Jr.

Broun thinks evolution and The Big Bang theory are lies straight from the pit of hell.

Somehow, “decency” is not the word that comes to mind.

barking frog

February 7th, 2013
1:53 pm

Broun certainly measures up to the standard for Ga GOP.

Class of '98

February 7th, 2013
1:53 pm

“They want to believe that president Obama will use drones against American citizens”

WANT to believe? A couple years ago they killed a teen who was born in Denver.

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2013/02/team-obama-killed-16-year-old-denver-kid-in-yemeni-drone-strike/

Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes

February 7th, 2013
1:54 pm

Perhaps the measurement tool is the problem?

When life gives you lemons pinkies, make lemonade finger sandwiches.

Stevie Ray..Clowns to the left and Jokers to the right..here I am...

February 7th, 2013
1:54 pm

skipper

February 7th, 2013
1:45 pm

Yeah, I guess the separate targeted killing of his 16 year old son was perfectly legit. I suspect he posed and “imminent threat” because one of our brilliant strategists concluded that in the future, he may give some consideration to avenging the murder of his nasty daddy.

Kinda like mafia stuff…remember little vito corleone in Italy? After they killed his father they wanted to kill the kid to?

guy

February 7th, 2013
1:54 pm

indigo, only a couple of crazies said that,not the majority. Anyone who says that is sick anyway.

indigo

February 7th, 2013
1:56 pm

guy

Clinton was right to say “what difference does it make”

In that part of the world, a crazed street mob and terrorists are virtually one and the same.

McCain and the rest of the Republican Senate know this perfectly well. So do most of the American people.

Unfortunately, it seems to be news to you.

Class of '98

February 7th, 2013
1:57 pm

I’m not making a judgement as to whether that Denver-born teen needed to be killed or not. But saying that Obama has no intention whatsoever of killing Americans under any circumstances is naive.

Some people (democrats) believe what he says and ignore what he does. Other people choose to pay close attention to his actions and ignore is telepromptered words.

Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes

February 7th, 2013
1:57 pm

They want to believe that president Obama will use drones against American citizens…

Well, someone here posted this as a viable story some time back:

http://www.thechicagodope.com/2010/11/11/cia-admits-drone-strike-killed-six-in-wisconsin-wedding-party/

td

February 7th, 2013
1:57 pm

Posted from the previous blog while Jay was putting together this one. I think it is worth posting again for thought purposes:

Have not had time to read the entire blog today but I would like to mention the following. The youth vote has historically voted democratic (Reagan 2nd term and GHWB the only anomaly) because they think they can save the world and believe that government can be used to save the world. When a group gets older (and I say wiser), start having responsibilities and start building wealth then they start to become more conservative in thinking.

Let us take 1976 for instance: The 18-29 group in that Presidential election turned out (32% of the electorate) and voted for the Democratic candidate 54% to 46% for a plus 9 in the Democratic favor. This same group in 2012 mainly fit in the 65 plus category and they voted for Romney 56% to 44% advantage or plus 12 advantage for the Republican.

http://partisanid.blogspot.com/2012/11/2012-youth-vote-anomaly-or-permanent.html

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Corbin Sharpe. I think, therefore I am...I think.

February 7th, 2013
1:58 pm

td,
Yeah, I’m sure the Left made Mourdock and Akins say the DA things they said… :roll:

indigo

February 7th, 2013
1:58 pm

Stevie Ray

That 16 year old they killed would not have hesitated to kill you and all your family, given the chance.

Please lose the naivety and grow up.

Jay

February 7th, 2013
1:59 pm

Well, td, let’s just say that the Tea Party folks aren’t buying what Karl is selling.

Oh, and the “traps of the left?”

Reporter: “Okay, so if an abortion can be considered in the case of, say, tubal pregnancy or something like that, what about in the case of rape? Should it be legal or not?”

Rep. Todd Akin (R-Mo.):
“Well, you know, uh, people always want to try to make that as one of those things, ‘Well, how do you – how do you slice this particularly tough sort of ethical question.’

“It seems to me, first of all, from what I understand from doctors, that’s really rare. If it’s a legitimate rape, the female body has ways to try to shut that whole thing down.

“But let’s assume that maybe that didn’t work or something. You know, I think there should be some punishment but the punishment ought to be on the rapist and not attacking the child.”

Yup. Quite the trap.

Thomas Heyward Jr

February 7th, 2013
1:59 pm

indigo

February 7th, 2013
1:53 pm

Thomas Hewyard, Jr.

Broun thinks evolution and The Big Bang theory are lies straight from the pit of hell.

Somehow, “decency” is not the word that comes to mind.
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At least he doesn’t lie about his convictions or beliefs.
It would seem as if………………gasp……………….he has principles.
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You Obama-Bots just don’t understand.
See Gitmo, Drone Warfare, etc……………………

Thomas Heyward Jr

February 7th, 2013
2:00 pm

It’s never too late though to…………………………….choose decency.