GOP coming to Atlanta for ideas on diversifying

I imagine they won’t need any hotels grand ballroom…..

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maybe start by not looking at minorities as takers and/or illegals. Exorcise the racist out of their party….

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“I’ve written repeatedly that the current division is not merely bad for the Republican Party, it’s bad for the state of Georgia and bad for the country as a whole. But how can it be changed? ”

I’ve said it a thousand times.

Get them some real opposition.

Best thing Priebus could do is not meet with black Republicans, but meet with Democrats and see if he couldn’t persuade them to become an actual opposition party of the bold and radical left. That would be the best thing for the conservative brand that could ever come to them. But of course Priebus won’t do that, because he’s convinced — wrongly — that the Dems already are a party of the left. See the problem?

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Well, this is pretty easy. We promise Those People everything money can buy—free iPhones, free sports tickets, free iPads, free booze, free $2500 food stamp cards, free houses, free everything. Anything the librul Democrats promise we double.

That ought to be good for us to take the White House and the Senate and keep the House. Then, when we’re running things we pass laws to make it unnecessary to promise anymore freebies and not act on the ones we promised. Me, I’m kinda partial to bringing back the 3/5 rule, but there’s other ways, like packing all Those People and the Mexicans and their librul buddies into about 20 districts and making sure the rest are controlled by us. Then there’s photo ID my way, where Those People have to pay to get their picture tattooed on their butt in order to vote.

See? I told you this would be easy. Next question?

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That Reince Priebus sounds like a part of the male genitourinary system!

Honey Boo Boo’s mom drops 100 pounds

The mother of Georgia’s most famous 7-year-old tells TMZ that her busy recording schedule is to credit for her drop from 365 to 263 pounds.

Why, Redneck Convert wouldn’t giver here the time of day at a measly 263 pounds!

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Well I would recommend that they not tell them that they are on the “Democratic Plantation”, drop the 47% nonsense and tell them that you will not let your party raise that kind of stupidity again.

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Do I have to say it again?

a) Gerrymandering. (Quit trying to restrict the power of voters)
b) against immigration reform (which is a loser with minorities)
c) against women having rights (which is a loser with women)
d) describing minorities as (insert thesaurus terms here for “moocher”)
e) against gay marriage (which is a loser with the younger voters)

I know people will whine about (a), but really, RIGHT NOW REPUBLICANS ARE DOING IT.

(d) is the topic of the day, so quit defining minorities as moochers, or whatever term of the day is.

Realize that Race should be ignored.

Oh, and quit supporting stupid ignorant racists for office. They should all be Chip Rogered out of office.

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Aha, ha, ha. Ha, ha, ha.

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Columnist and author Starr Parker said it best. When the old guard at the SCLC and the NAACP dies off, we will finally have some progress for minority citizens in this country! Their racist attitudes and constant blaming white people for their community issues has been a major deterrent to racial understanding and equal opportunity in this state and around the country! There are young people that come onto this blog, that believe that black people are being lynched in this state on a regular basis! Nothing like that has happened in over forty or fifty years at least and maybe longer! There used to be very moral and strong black communities based around churches and their leaders, but the introduction of drugs and the destruction of two parent households has weakened those bonds and the leadership has blamed others for this failure! Even Bill Cosby was reviled and hounded for his statements that the black community needs to deal with their own issues and not blame others! There are actually a rapidly growing number of minority republicans, who preach personal responsibility to their peers and are becoming leaders in the party! Of course at this moment in time, the meeting needs to be closed so that they can provide input to the party leadership and not be hounded out of town by the mindless, lemming minority democrats with their shouts of “Oreo” and “Uncle Tom”!

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A better question is why large parts of the African American community not embrace the Conservative principles of self reliance, American work ethic, less taxes, balanced budgets and religious freedom?

When Obama leaves office (and the Dems do not nominate another African American) then the 10 to 12% of conservative African Americans (mostly men) will come back and vote for the party.

The Republicans will paste Marco Rubio and Ted Cruz all over the TV for the next 4 years (Rubio is going to do the Republican response to Obama’s SOU) and will put them out front to talk about immigration reform and Hispanics will come back and vote 35 to 40% in 2016 like they did for Bush. If Rubio wins the nomination then they will vote 70 to 80% for Republicans.

Asians are the group that I do not understand. My wife is Asian and her and her entire family hates communism and sees the current democratic philosophy as communistic. Dems have been turning them away from the elite schools (when they are the most qualified) in CA for about 10 years now in the name of diversity and the Republican philosophy is all the same values they want.

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“Why has the Republican Party — the party of abolition, of Abraham Lincoln, of Colin Powell and Condi Rice — found it so difficult to attract not just black voters but voters of almost any minority group?”. The answer? Because the democrats are willing to just keep on handing out the entitlements at the expense of the taxpayers and to the detriment of nation. Black un-employment is around 13 or 14% in this country and still they vote for the party that pretty much takes them for granted. Whether you like it or not, blacks vote based upon the race of the candidate and nothing more. Mostly it is the entitlements though. That one is pretty simple.

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Keep Up the Good Fight!

February 6th, 2013
5:01 pm

“Well I would recommend that they not tell them that they are on the “Democratic Plantation”,

You do understand that the term and subject came from the Thomas Sowell and Larry Elder (African American conservative columnist) and was used on the campaign trail by Herman Cain (Conservative African American politician).

Did you hear the way Ben Jealous talked about Senator Tim Scott? Talk about degrading.

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HAHAHAHA!! That td is so funny.

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Well, what kind of name is Reince Priebus? Sounds like a furriner to me. Or maybe something you put on your dishes to get rid of soap scum. No self-respecting American Mom would hang a handle like that on her kid. For that matter, no self-respecting redneck would ever vote for him. He might as well stay home instead of coming down here.

That’s my advise and I’m sticking to it. Have a good night everybody. Me and old Ace got some Fox News to watch.

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As long TPs (tail) wag the dog Priebus is just wasting the money.

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Glognitz

February 6th, 2013
5:18 pm

I don’t like the guy either…of course I don’t like most of the politicians, most of all those who get the most airtime.

But blindly suggesting that the GOP is based in racism is a bit much. Some are idiots (they have no corner on that market), some are closet bigots, but racist allegations does nothing for the conversation.

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I have an idea for the gop.

Retire.

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Since the national party has spent the last 40 years honing a Southern Strategy aimed at recruiting politicians and voters who are inimical to the interests of most minorities, and black Americans in particular, I think they have an uphill battle. As they will if they ever decide to try to appeal to single women.

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Stevie – funny – timing is everything.

Racist allegation does do somrthing – it brings the element of truth into the conversation. You can’t solve a problem until you come out of denie.. The elephant in the room has to be discussed. (pun intened)

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“I get the impression that gerrymandering is a practice exclusive to the GOP? Do the DEMs when in control not try to gain advantage in similar fashion?”

Sure…but at this time it’s not the Dems worrying about how to attract more voters.

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That td is a HOOT!!!!!

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Right, its just about the freebies and entitlements! Keep saying that over and over and over again.

Never mind that the people Priebus is after are part of the large and growing black middle class that Republicans love to ignore and refuse to acknowledge their existence.

They’ll flock to your party!

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There was a time, long ago, when the word “integrity” actually meant something to Republican politicians.

Today, if anyone said, at a political meeting “we must restore integrity to our Party”, they would hooted and laughed out of the room.

Does anyone truly wonder why so much of our society is now built on a solid foundations of lies?

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pogo

February 6th, 2013
5:17 pm

Good points but that has been the main theme of the DEMs since…forever? Thats a given in my book.

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The GOP might as well give it up, really. I just came across a Yahoo article on the Ashley Judd story and what American Crossroads put out as a web ad. One word to describe it – DESPICABLE!

The lady hasn’t even officially thrown her hat into the ring. The State of the Union address hasn’t even taken place and these clowns demonstrate once again they are capable of nothing except INSULTING themselves into IRRELEVANCE. This is why I would never see myself in my remaining lifetime supporting the GOP. I refuse to have my face spit in, almost literally, then to be pat on the head and have my vote asked for. Who the hell wants to be insulted, called names, stereotyped all the damned time??

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=gK0KQW0ppeE

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What is Priebus trying to do, get white Georgia Republicans to flee the party?

Look what happened in Georgia when blacks started to gain power with the Democrats, white Democrats fled the party and became Republicans.

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Just since I haven’t said it in a while, REINCE PRIEBUS – (VOWELS) = RNC PR BS.

Just sayin’.

Okay, seriously?

Make like William F. Buckley and have the stones to say ‘we were wrong about that’ and APOLOGIZE for your mistakes. Where the GOP has tried to marginalize minorities, women, gays & lesbians, non-christians and non-theists — OWN UP TO IT and APOLOGIZE.

I don’t care what the GOP does differently. If they can’t strap on a pair of nuts and say ‘gosh, we were wrong about that and we’re sorry how we treated you,’ then they’re not serious about winning votes from across the aisle. IMO it’s all window dressing if they’re not willing to go that far.

In other words, f**k the GOP until they can show some humility and contrition.

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Black un-employment is around 13 or 14% in this country and still they vote for the party that pretty much takes them for granted. Whether you like it or not, blacks vote based upon the race of the candidate and nothing more. Mostly it is the entitlements though. That one is pretty simple.

I gotta believe you take pride in being so friggin’ wrong all the time.

If Blacks vote based on race, how do you account for the support for most every Democratic Presidential candidate since Eisenhower? Was Bill Clinton, Jimmy Carter, Walter Mondale, Al Gore, and others Black but lacking the necessary melainin density for it to show? Geez dude, that bigoted crap was so damned stupid, I feel ashamed for your descendants that haven’t been born yet and will not be born for the next 100 years.

If you actually knew anything, you would know that Black unemployment has always been twice the national average almost since they began tracking it. I guess you’re too dumb to use Google to actually learn something truthful.

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How can the GOP attract more black voters? Match the Democrats in the entitlement war. Why, they could just treat it like a poker game….. I’ll match your Aid to Dependent Children and raise you 6 EBT cards.
If you have to give away your very soul to gain re-election in most any political office, the Democrats are the experts. And they do it with such grace, such “compassion”, while not giving a tinkers damn about the recipients. If you took away all of the giveaways, blacks and latinos would drop the Democrats like a hot rock. It isn’t a matter of diversity, inclusion, fair play or any of those liberal catch words…… just the government check. That’s about they care about about and always have.

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“Whether you like it or not, blacks vote based upon the race of the candidate and nothing more.”

How is the voting record of whites in Georgia? How many non white governors have we had? US Senators? How many non whites have been elected to office in Gwinnett county? Gwinnett has a population that is barely 50% white, last time I checked they only had one non-white elected to local, state or federal office. ONE!

White people in Georgia giving lectures about black people only voting for blacks is hysterical!

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Can you provide me with some GOP acts of racism that support your commentary?

Don’t know if it qualifies for “racism’, but I would say that it is about time to retire the story of the welfare queens standing in line at the store buying __________ with foods stamps.

And by “retire”, I mean for the leadership to be proactive about any advancement of that meme. Maybe they could use Fox News to put a damper on that.

A story first advance by St. Ronnie-of-the-Raygun.

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Stay the course with that moocher argument and keep insulting them.

The majority wants the house.

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S. Ray — “Good luck with that….of course I’m sure it has happened but I can’t recall last time I heard a politician apologize for anything.”

Well, maybe if it comes down to a choice between apologizing and getting to *stay* a politician and not apologizing and having to go back to Ohiowa, Michitucky or Calibama and get a day job, then perhaps some of them will do it.

“Don’t mind saying I’m a fan of Buckley’s. He wrote a several terrific novels..Tuckers Last Stand was a great read.”

Buckley was incredibly intelligent, but IMO his greatest strengths were that he knew when to say ‘I was wrong about that’ and that he knew when to cut loose crazoids like the John Birchers. He was not afraid to make course corrections (if you will) in order to keep moving forward. It’s a shame that so many putative conservatives just started ignoring him in his final years; IMO he had a lot to say that they could have benefited from.

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Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes

February 6th, 2013
5:49 pm

Can’t disagree with that and to be sure, the GOP are the source for much amusement by such stuff, not to mention the womans bodily ability to keep her eggs in check when raped.

I do feel strongly that in many ways, entitlements over time have done more harm than good…

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Krystal’Balls – “tend to not forget where they come from”

Where do you come from?

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T. Heyward — “He believes that universal gun ownership was advocated by the Framers of the Constitution as an antidote to a “monopoly of force” by the government as well as criminals.”

Guess he missed the parts in the Constitution about ‘no standing armies’ and that the Congress was to have authority over the ‘militia.’
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‘It’s about time that gun-owners be properly Thanked.’

If you’re not out drilling with your ‘militia’ unit, then you’re not fulfilling your Constitutional obligation as a citizen. That’ll be $500, please.

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The gop has 999 problems and I don’t care.

Life is janky for the gop.

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Brosephus™

February 6th, 2013
5:53 pm

Well good afternoon genius! I think it is a no-brainer for DEMs/current supporters to strongly want the GOP to stop gerrymandering. Explain to me in your infinite wisdom exactly how that would result in getting more voters to swing to GOP?

Wow Beaver, those silly old GOP ceased and desisted from gerrymandering. Let’s vote for them now..

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@indigo
February 6th, 2013
5:57 pm

Any guesses? And what piques your curiosity? I would be more than happy to share, just like to know the angle.

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I’m amazed at the 1-5 (a – e?) that I posted three different times on this forum actually hit so close. I’m usually clueless about SOMETHING or other. (and that Kevin William’s article has similar points)

But yes, the posts here that basically “blame THEM for not seeing how good we are” is missing the point entirely.

Come on GOP folks. REALLY. There is a reason Mr. Priebus is coming to town, and it’s to get educated. Unfortunately, much of the GOP base does not want to be educated. They enjoy the little bubble. … .

oops. . . I was about to make a major blunder, grouping so many into a stereotype.

(See what I did there?)

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I think it is a no-brainer for DEMs/current supporters to strongly want the GOP to stop gerrymandering.

Well then, why are you asking me? What part of I don’t give a flying sh*t about the Democratic Party” do you not understand?

Explain to me in your infinite wisdom exactly how that would result in getting more voters to swing to GOP?

I already did. In your infintely small reading comprehension, you failed to grasp what I said. Eliminating gerrymandering will force the GOP to become more inclusive because their candidates will no longer simply have to deal with one group. When you set yourself up so that 80% of your voters are of one group, you can completely ignore the other 20% and still get re-elected with ease.

As the GOP currently controls about 30 states, it doesn’t matter what in the hell the Democrats do. The GOP could essentially push the Democratic Party out of the center without staging a national battle if they actually used their state control for good.

THAT’S what I’m trying to get across. Do you understand it now?

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Logical Dude

You it it close because you’re actually using common sense logic. You’ll be portrayed as some far-left individual though because you didn’t use the right tone and inflammatory language that seems to get some conservatives to react like Palov’s dog.

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Josef—————and with all due respect—————-who is this we?

“Now, here we are, once again, trapping ourselves in a Black-White dichotomy”
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Like I mentioned earlier, it would seem only geezers, the MSM, and progressive violent extremeists are doing this.
The youth…..of all colors……… have moved on.
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And that’s a good thing.
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There’s a sea-change happening, and as usual , the educated “elite’ are the last to see.

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td, another question for you, and pogo too. The blogs go crazy when Atlanta or DeKalb appoint blacks to county/city positions, ignoring the fact that have appointed white people also.

How many non-whites has Gov Deal appointed?

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Brosephus™

February 6th, 2013
6:11 pm

I can always tell when you know you are blogging on very thin ice..you deflect with, in this case, suggesting my reading comprehension is below par. Anyhow..your pollyanish view that all the GOP needs to do is to maintain enough minority voters in their districts that they will be pressured to cater in ways that will in many instances, be at odds with where the big money comes from….that will get more minorities to vote GOP..

That’s not exactly what I’d call practical….

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Wow, is public behavior like this the reason why Kincannon is the “former” executive director?

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JAY

I read it. I think he is making a mistake when he focuses too much on the urban districts. A real Southern strategy could work better in that a Black or Hispanic GOP candidate running in a predominantly rural district in much of the South would have a pretty solid chance. We like to pooh-pooh the likes of Herman Cain, and G-d forbid, but he did show that the White clan of the Southern tribe will vote for a member of the Black clan…but J. C, Watts proved that it can be done and an intelligent, rational individual be elected.

I can easily see a Black Republican winning in Mississippi’s 1st, 3rd or 4th Districts…

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“Maybe, just maybe, minorities aren’t attracted to the Democratic Party because of all of the “free stuff” it offers, as Romney so crudely put it. Maybe, just maybe, they’re repelled by the crude stereotypes of non-white Americans that seem to drive the GOP base.”

Nope.

Pundits like Jay supported by the MSM O’bozo sycophants propagate that fantasy on a daily basis. That fact, coupled with the outrageous (and unchallenged) political ads run by Dems fuel perceptions far removed from reality.

Bush supporting blacks dragged behind pickups? Voting R means water hoses? Romney kills old people? Ryan pushing Grandma off a cliff?

As long as lib ilk lies go unchallenged by anyone, R’s have a steep uphill climb.

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THOMAS H

That we is the general public, and us bloggers here…”we” are still trapped in a discussion of race and diversity set in a Black-White paradigm…

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J. C, Watts proved that it can be done and an intelligent, rational individual be elected.

Exactly!!!! Don’t insult the people you want to vote for you. There are plenty of center-right Blacks that will vote for the right candidate, regardless of color. That same group of people can also smell bullsh*t a mile away.

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In my humble estimation the GOP needs to distance themselves from the likes of Rush Lambaugh, Sean Hannity, and Ann Coulbert. The vitriolic racial hatred that these individuals spew forth in the name of the GOP is highly counter-productive because it turns off millions who might otherwise vote the GOP ticket. Who, in their right mind wants to vote for a party that has been hijacked by racists? No one but one who agrees with their rhetoric. Al Jefferson

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TBG

Enjoy your independence, bro. For some reason, I can’t enjoy mine here. No matter how many times I express, in no uncertain terms, my feelings towards the Democratic Party, I still get called a leftie, Dem, or supporter.

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F. Sinkwich:

“As long as lib ilk lies go unchallenged by anyone, R’s have a steep uphill climb.”

See Al’s 6:29 for evidence.

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I don’t think the GOP can do much to change the dynamic

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Someone with a name like Reince and a record of bankrolling voter suppression is coming to Atlanta to seek diversity ideas from Georgia Republicans! When is he meeting with Herman?

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DannyX

February 6th, 2013
6:16 pm

td, another question for you, and pogo too. The blogs go crazy when Atlanta or DeKalb appoint blacks to county/city positions, ignoring the fact that have appointed white people also.

How many non-whites has Gov Deal appointed?

Well I know the Commissioner of the largest agency in the state (Department of Human Services) is an African American appointed by Deal and I know the comm. of the Department of correction and pardons and parole. Just go to each agency site and look at the picture of the commissioner or director and count. I am willing to bet you that the % of appointments doubles the % of the African American population that voted for him. Will you take that bet?

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“A better question is why large parts of the African American community not embrace the Conservative principles of self reliance, American work ethic, less taxes, balanced budgets and religious freedom?
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An interesting note is the more homogenized ethnically a county is the more entitlement programs. In fact I would actually say the tendency to “perceive” one group benefiting more from entitlements would seem to hamper the number of entitlements.

If you look at the two biggest programs Medicare and social security it is actually white people who benefit the most. Why?
White people live longer which means the collect it longer. Second, fewer blacks go to college and start work earlier so they are paying into a younger age while a higher percentage of whites delay contributing because of going to college. Another entitlement program college is being paid by everyone who pays taxes. However, the beneficiary is only those who go to college. Since a higher percentage of whites go to college they benefit from this more so than black.

It cracks me up every time whites complain about entitlements when they benefit more than anyone.

Also, don’t bring up 50% don’t pay taxes because they is simply not true. States are funded by variety of taxes and states provide most of the funds for colleges.

Below is Milton Friedman who discusses middle class entitlements.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uwG-5xCTGyI

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Minorities are a small percentage of the vote. The GOP has lost
the centrist white vote. They will not get it back. Unusually I agree
with Jm, they cannot change the dynamic. Obama proved that race
no longer matters. They helped him but they did not elect him.

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When you deal with an uneducated group of voters who believe the color of your skin means more than contents of their character you get our current state of affairs

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“Yep, they voted for him because of his color…just like all those other black Presidents they voted for because of their color.”

Didn’t Jesse Jackson get something like close to 80% of this vote?

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to maximum and gadem (around 4:43 to 4:47pm)
your comments show your ignorance.
sorry, but it is just so obvious.

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Jay @ 5:55 p.m.

“Whether it’s a church, a civic club, a restaurant, a neighborhood or a political party, people will go where they feel they are accepted and comfortable.”

Good luck with that bit of wisdom. As a young reporter in the 1970s, I tried to attend a meeting of the local NAACP that had been advertised as a ‘public ‘ meeting to discuss a then controversial issue in our city. I was greeted at the front door of the ‘lodge hall’ by a group of members who told me in no uncertain terms that I was not welcome and would not be allowed inside.

I wasn’t accepted, and I damned certainly wasn’t welcome. Not absolutely sure if my exclusion was because of my race (Caucasian) or because of my professional affiliation. Perhaps some of both. It left me with the realization that African Americans are no different from those of the ‘Old South’ who discriminated on the basis of race.

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“Obama proved that race no longer matters.”

Bwaahahahahahahaha

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TM

February 6th, 2013
6:48 pm
Jay if you think the majority blacks voted for Obama for any other reason than the color of his skin or the benefits he promised them,show me the data. Of course he broke most of the promises but that didn’t matter
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Kerry won African-American 88-11
Obama won African-American 93-13.
Gore won 90% of the African-American vote

http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/2004/pages/results/states/US/P/00/epolls.0.html
http://www.cnn.com/election/2012/results/race/president#exit-polls

Although I am sure that a few African-Americans voted for Obama based on race most would have voted for him anyway. The only argument you could make is the turnout was higher for African-Americans because of Obama only because I am too lazy to check.

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Okay, voting for your own kind. To deny that it plays a factor would be disingenuous. To say it is always the determining factor is equally so. When John Oxendine was running for state office, Unmentionable said to stop him on the way out to vote. Why? There was the chance to vote for “one of his own” for state office, but what would he get if he did? Somebody who pretty much stood for everything he (Unmentionable) was against. When Goldwater was running, Mama said, “we finally have a half Jew running and I can’t half vote for him.” I’d say that when it comes to, say, Herman Cain, many Blacks feel the same way.

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Mr. Priebus needs to learn how to pander to the voters who demand free handouts, that will get it done/

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PEACE
@ 7:19

When and where was that? Not being snarky, but looking for time and place perspective.

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Your whole argument is based on a false assumption. Medicare and Social Security are NOT entitlement programs. They are insurance programs where everyone that receives a payout has had to pay into the program.

If that is true, why does Social Security and Medicare get lumped into “entitlement reform” whenever the GOP talks budget? Sounds like the national party doesn’t know the difference between entitlements and insurance.

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Jay I am waiting for the time when I will be a minority to get affirmative action so my kids can get a free ride into Columbia and Harvard Law.

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TM
Jay I am waiting for the time when I will be a minority to get affirmative action so my kids can get a free ride into Columbia and Harvard Law.
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numbers do not a minority make…

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“numbers do not a minority make”
Just wait until Obama gets his immigration reform passed and you will be surprise.

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Okay, Reopublicans. I’m a Gay, rural, Jewish, Southern, American in a mixed marriage with a Gay, rural, Indian, Southern American. Why should we cast our lot with you?

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PEACE

Understood. That lends the perspective I was looking for. I had some similar experiences about the same time and, perhaps, in a similar environment.

JAY

Yep. Maybe Priebus should read that article for a start.

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Perhaps Paul Broun, Lynn Westmoreland, et al, could help poor Reince understand the GOP’s dilemma.

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Republicans need to be honest with themselves and realize they need to join the 21st century. They have been using too many gimmicks to get votes that they have confused themselves about what they really stand for. They were the morale majority to attract that vote, they invited the tea party in to get that vote, they convince southerners they are the white party and the democrats are the black party. Seems to me they are just holding a survey to see which message they should put out to trick, er I mean attract new voters. Behind closed doors, they are really just bemoaning the fact that they allowed minorities and women to vote and we went and exercised that right.

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Ummmm @Indigo

I know exactly what you asked – “Where do you come from?”

Is this some sort of trick question or something? Then go throw some sideways asssed comment like “Not surprised though” as if you know me or something or like I’m some F.O.S. person. I ask, do you have some type of an ax to grind with me or something? Do you really desire to know the answer to the question or what? One thing about me, I don’t have time to play silly games with people. If we can’t engage on an adult level, then let’s not engage at all. I have nothing to prove to the likes of someone who can’t even put it all out there in an exchange. That’s why my moniker is what it is, because I actually “have a pair.”

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The latest unskewed polling results show that Reince is wasting his time here given that a clear majority of minorities already choose the GOP over the Democratic Party. It’s the truth, I tells ya.

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TM
I have no problem with that. It’s part of equal rights. But, why are you stopping just at Gay…there were plenty of other labels I included. See, that’s part of my problem with both parties. They both have a real problem with the fact that all those labels are adjectives describing the “kind” of American we are. Before any of that, we are Americans…

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indigo

February 6th, 2013
7:28 pm
Moderate Line – 7:20 “from people who work”

And, were it not for age and infirmity, a vast majority of these receipents would gladly work, if they could find any.
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That must be why people retire because they would gladly work.

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Sinkwich

Much of what you say is true, But I don’t see the GOP as it is now promoting my individual freedom. I don’t have the freedom to legally connect my life with that of my partner and the GOP has a plank objecting to that.

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STEVIE

“Has there ever been a black GOPer who wasn’t lambasted as an Uncle Tom?”

J. C. Watts comes to mind….

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Consider an average-wage two-earner couple together earning $89,000 a year. Upon retiring in 2011, they would have paid $114,000 in Medicare payroll taxes during their careers. But they can expect to receive medical services – including prescriptions and hospital care – worth $355,000, or about three times what they put in.

That mistaken impression complicates the job for policymakers trying to build political support in the coming months for dealing with deficits that could drag the economy back down.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2011/01/02/AR2011010203213.html

For Social Security that payout will get worse for younger people.

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The bottom line is, Republicans need to stop marrying themselves to their hallowed principles, and start addressing practical, real-life solutions to the problems that plague America and Americans. Just saying no to drugs does not appreciably affect drug abuse. A campaign to replace birth control with abstinence is an exercise in futility. Stop telling us HOW to live, and legislate in the real world.

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Obama says that the economy is headed in the right direction, it isn’t. You need to either be a stone ideologe or a stoned stupid to believe that’s true. Republicans need to get back to their conservative fiscal values and quit being like Democrats. Taking a hard line stand on out of control spending and the serious need for entitlement reform will be both painful as well politically unpopular but only in the short term. As the economy continues to deteriorate and the deficit continues to grow the Democrat party will see its demise as the party of the far-left. The political pendulum will shift as is typical in politics. Republicans should develop leaders from the Black community and Hispanic community as candidates for office. They have a nucleus already to work with in challenging the Democrats advantage with this demographic.

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Obama says that the economy is headed in the right direction, it is.

True.

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As a centrist, pro-choice woman, there is almost nothing that the GOP could do to entice me to vote for them again.

The one and only thing that would motivate me to favor the Republican over the Democrat in reasonably similar candidates would be a real, radical change in the area of campaign finance. Specifically, if the Republicans changed their platform to include a requirement that no sitting Republican legislator would accept cash contributions from any donor, that all campaign contributions would be directed to the RNC on an anonymous basis to be allotted by the central office on an as-needed basis and that any 501(c)3 group supporting Republican candidates had to list every contributor, every single exposure, I would hold my nose and flock to their side.

I would do so in the full knowledge that they have marginalized me, insulted me, discriminated against me, tried their best to oppress me and that their mouthpiece, Limbaugh, has screamed “SLUT!” long and loud across the land in response to a demand that women’s contraceptives be treated in parity with men’s “enhancements”. I believe that radical reform of the political system is so crucial to the country that I would put my personal concerns and rights aside to work for its passage.

But that is the ONLY thing that would get me to equally consider R and D candidates. And I would not be surprised if minority voters feel similarly.

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I’ll take Obama’s 2013 economy over Bush’s 2006 economy any day of the year.

Thank you Mr. President.

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The last problem with our recovery is unemployment.

So what is the gop solution?

Cut to raise unemployment.

The lies like del’s are a problem but the gop are full of them.

They should disband again because they are totally worthless to the majority.

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“You need to either be a stone ideologe or a stoned stupid to believe that’s true. ”

Lots of us dummies I guess – the Dow closed at just under 14,000 again today. Lessee, who should I listen to….. Wall Street or Recon…. hmmmm that’s a tough one… hmmmm

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The lies like del’s are a problem but the gop are full of them.

I’ve determined that you must be both a stone ideologe as well as stoned stupid.

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Moderate line – 7:36

They retire and go on Medicare because of serious medical problems, you nitwit.

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The majority vote in this country is changing.

As we all know, the majority is not always the best, wisest, moral or whatever ………….. it’s just the “majority”.

It is what it is.

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SINKWICH

As usual, you miss the point entirely. Of course it’s not my raison d’etre…but it IS a key issue for me. If I’m lost on a key issue, then why go for the others? Remember, it was you who centered on that as if it WERE my raison d’etre. Now, how many of the others I listed does the GOP lose me on…once they begin to add up in the negative column, well, I think even you can see that point…

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The majority will swing back in a decade so chin up cons.

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“Josef can speak well for himself, but perhaps he just believes in freedom…”

Well, apparently he thinks that issue is the end all to be all. Good for him.

It just shows up at about number 237 on my list.

He’s a diehard lib ilk. Not that there’s anything wrong with that.

Oh, wait, yeah there is….

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Sorry dude, but what drives Wall Street is future expectations. And those are positive. In spite of Republican obstructionism.

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Scout flatters himself with the “low information” voter” and “emotion vs logic” mantra he consistently posts(and he is brainwashed with by talks show host and wedsites), but he can’t explain his emotions and lack of logic regarding his “Reagan Carter blowout” posts…. That he reminded us of over and over and over….

Hahahhah

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“Having just lost an election, many Republicans are anxious to remake our party in the image of Democrats. The theory seems to be that whatever we’re doing isn’t working, so we better change everything.

But in fact, whatever Republicans did in 2012 — other than an overly long primary fight — worked amazingly well, given the circumstances.

In a detailed analysis of the 2012 election, William A. Galston, a fellow with the liberal Brookings Institution, makes a number of fascinating observations that Republicans would do well to consider before embracing amnesty, abortion, gay marriage and Beyonce.”

http://www.anncoulter.com/columns/2013-02-06.html#read_more

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What’s driving Wall Street is solid corporate profit that’s not being invested in our domestic market e.g. negative GDP and unemployment close to 8% with less than 64% workforce participation as a result.

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Reagan blew Carter out of the water.

What’s so hard to understand about that ?

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So, now we are to be concerned with that favorite liberal word…… diversity. Most of those that are considered “diverse” could give a fat damn about those who are not. And vice versa. I will pick and choose very carefully who I spend time with, trust to friendships and remain tolerant of and it is not some liberal’s business who that is. We might lose elections but elections are not the most important thing in life. I will remain as diverse as my conscience tells me to be and I don’t need some liberal talking head to tell me how to do it. And Bookman, the GOP will survive very well thank you….. with or without your help.

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2 or 3 things that Repubs could do and it would send the Dems reeling…

Sadly they are afraid of people like you…

Yes that is funny to me as well

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I think when you watch and read uncredible rw media only, you are a very low information voter.

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“yet is of enormous concern and frustration to voters.”

Not me.

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Scout

You spin shows your stupidity..

Now put it in the context you asserted before the election

Bitter old man

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Kayaker

If I were you I would put your foot down and draw that line in the sand as you have asserted…..

Folks are trembling as they wait for you to lead the charge

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Bitter old men indeed.

In a time of self reflection, cons could not take it and just lash out to get off their lawn or yell at clouds.

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” It’s certainly a key factor when dealing with the GOP, or the Dems either for that matter.”

Here’s a real “key factor:”

Had to refuel the family truckster this morning. Dropped $96.37 at the local Kroger fuel center. Means more to me than gay marriage.

Everything we buy costs more now because of O’bozo’s war on fossil fuel.

But you don’t care because he “evolved.”

I do.

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CBO report shows deficit reduction is harming our economy but that is very obvious.

No you need to get a life it doesn’t say that. You only got that from some left wing Web site that interpreted it that way out of context from the complete report.

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Get

I appreciate his service to this country. It should be commended and I have said so numerous times.

His bitter, angry, man act certainly is even tired to him… But if that floats his boat….

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Calm down del,

Your party fought against our recovery the whole time.

Of course that hurts our economy.

You are a very low information voter because you only read rw media that is not credible.

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CHEROKEE

Why, thank you kindly, Sir…and likewise, I’m sure. And being mentioned in the same context as Brosephus? An honor, indeed.

SINKWICH
And we don’t put gas in Geronimo’s Cadillac? So, when we’re pumping it, reckon maybe we might also be thinking about what kind of taxes the other is going to have to pay on the estate we built as a couple when one of us croaks? It’s gonna be a lot more “taxing” to fill the tank ofthat pompous internal combustion chariot than for your spouse when you go meet your M*ker…

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When the so-called conservatives come to Atlanta, I do hope they bring Rep. Cantor(R-VA), Rep Issa(R-CA), Rep Broun(R-GA), Rep. Bachmann(R-MN) and former Rep. Alan West(R-FL) to highlight their diversity.

Especially, they should showcase the leadership demonstrated by Rep. Issa(R-CA) and his business model used in his auto alarm business and how he came to formulate his multi-million dollar company, and, is he using the same business model that requires the United States Postal Service to pre-fund its health care pension requires for 75 years in the next 10 years.

We need insight into how these things work so well.

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indigo

February 6th, 2013
8:05 pm
Moderate line – 7:36

They retire and go on Medicare because of serious medical problems, you nitwit.
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The number of people who are over 64 who do not work because of a chronic illness or disability is 7.4%. 85.9% of the people say they don’t work because they are retired so I really don’t buy that most of those people would work if they could. They don’t work because they don’t have too.
http://www.census.gov/prod/2007pubs/p70-111.pdf
Calling me nitwit does not change the facts.

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According to scout, the gop’s unskewed data shows they are doing all the right things and I’m inclined to agree. Don’t change a thing, cons. In fact, if anything you should actually consider going farther right. I suggest selecting Paul Broun as your next Presidential candidate. Do it for the good of the country.

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They retire and go on Medicare because of serious medical problems, you nitwit.

That’s not the only, or even the major, reason. We continue to have a serious problem with age discrimination in the work place. In fact, people are expected to retire by 65 or so, and some organizations make a push to see that they do so. All of a sudden, those performance appraisals that once were glowing turn negative, and the problem isn’t the older worker’s performance. Younger people carry this ageism in their genes. Again and again, I see younger workers expressing resentment that an older worker hasn’t retired so as to open up an advancement opportunity or expressing the inherently biased opinion that they don’t mind working with older workers “provided they keep up.” This ageism is everywhere, including the selection process for promotion. When’s the last time you read about some 65-year-old hot-shot who got promoted to executive vice president?

It doesn’t help that bloggers here ordinarily known for liberal opinion refer to older people as “old geezers.”

And in this situation, people are seriously proposing raising the retirement age even further for SS and increasing the Medicare eligibility age to 67. Exactly how are the older workers going to survive if they retire?

No, illness is far from the major reason that people retire and sign up for Medicare. And to rub it in, federal law raises the Medicare premium significantly for anybody who doesn’t sign up promptly for Medicare.

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TBS:

Rude old man.

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P.S.

No “context”. Reagan blew Carter out of the water. Simple as that.

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JB – Why don’t you just cut to the chase? You hate everything the “opposing” party has to say / do / propose! Let’s see, your President came into office proclaiming to be a “uniter” in DC – yep, that worked.

4 Years later this man has divided the country / sports / politics / etc. more than anyone has ever done. “If I had a son, he would look like Trayvon”, “If I had a son, I wouldn’t let him play football”.

Meanwhile, the country goes down the tubes.

Wow! What a great leader this guy is.

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I know that this is going to sound naive but Reince Priebus could learn a few things by tuning in to the Rev Al Sharpton show on MSNBC. It’s not like people are talking behind his back. Why doesn’t Reince call his predecessor, Michael Steele and save himself a plane ticket?

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I’m now in my senior years and in my lifetime I’ve seen and been part of crises that this great country faced and overcame. Before my time this great country faced much worse than I’ve seen in my time. The common thread is that the American people have overcome each and everyone of those crises situations throughout our history as a nation. Today we face a crises from the far-left that has worked hard to transform this great nation into a socialist society but they shall ultimately fail.

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@getalife

Thank you for your insight. Natural gas numbers.

http://www.eia.gov/naturalgas/weekly/

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“It doesn’t work and you can’t fire it.”

0311/8541, good one.

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The economy has been improving but we still need long term cuts in defense, medicare, health care, and social security, and we need to raise taxes.
Either that or it is really going to hit the fan in about ten years.

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Damn, we conservatives just don’t appreciate Bozo and Bozoette. We just don’t appreciate the fact that he is an expert on everything from football, to birth control, to race relations to fiscal responsibility. This clown couldn’t balance an checkbook with the help of a full accounting firm, yet he professes to know about managing money. He tells the Boston police force how to do their job because one of his black buddies didn’t behave. And before all of the evidence is in, he proclaims that that evil “white hispanic” that killed that thug Travon, in Florida, was guilty. Then he is an expert on taking out terrorists, especially American citizens and their 16 yr old offspring. Man, this guy can do everything. Who would ever question that?

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Republicans want to shift the burden of paying social security and medicare from the government to the employer. Keep making it harder to retire. Keep forcing businesses to pay higher health care premiums due to the high percentage of fossils they have on the payroll. Then turn the whole system over to private insurance companies so that they can profit from grannie’s overpriced HMO plan that she had to shop for. Great ideas.

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Jackie,

No problem.

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@USA

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degree – you get the most confused award. What you said makes no sense from start to finish. Please try again, after counting to ten.

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@USA

You may be interesting to read who compiles the numbers for these announcements.

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71 – getting better under Obama’s leadership.

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TBS:

And yes I said “rude old man”.

“Do you remember your own posts or do you need to be reminded?”

VERY foolish question from you since I have been on here posting for several years now.

GEEZ !

Take a break from me will ya’ ?

You bore me.

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And then Ronnie employed Keynes theory, incread the debt and the debt has skyrocketed since. except for during the ninties under Clinton

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Recon and USA Patriot:

Yes ………… those pistols go to liberals …………… )

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Oscar

Old Scout was so confident in a Romney win that he said it would be on the same lines as the win Reagan had over Carter.

When reminded of his own words, Barneby Jones either changes the subject or wont respond

Isn’t that right, Scout?

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Old Goober

I’m one of the younger posters here, and I won’t refer to older bloggers like that. I give elders a bit more leeway in their posts when I have an idea of their age. The only place where I want to push older people out is in politics. Nothing personal, but the decisions made today will have to be dealt with by my generation while the people actually making the choices won’t be using oxygen anymore.

If we had business leaders with the testicular fortitude to invest in America and create jobs here, there wouldn’t be younger workers wishing for your retirement.

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Scout

You can not respond it you wish not to do so.

Or you can lie as you did and I showed last week

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@ RECON,in reality it is far left bloggers such as Bookman and his sycophants who will eventually overreach and provide the opening which the repubs need to become the majority again, the dems needed Harding and Bush-2 to become viable again. You should thank the getalifes and the taxpayers and the godzillas and the Jam of the political world they give your party hope and possibility…..History repeats itself, again and again …..

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Cherokee

Thanks for the compliment.

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LOL !

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Scout?

Thought so

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0311 – Great watching the video again! Thanks!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9bCA3yqkMUI

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Alex, actually I’m not a member of the Republican party. I’m a member of the Christian party.

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“That is what I call change.” – As in your pocket?

Carry on!

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“I’m a member of the Christian party.”

Yeah…we’ve noticed

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Well glad to see the stupid party is sending their head clown, Rinse Prepus to the redneck south to put on a performance for the intellectually handicapped cons in this state. I am sure he will entertain them with juggling acts, phony polls, dissing veterans, exhibitions on fleecing the rich and his expertise on picking losers as candidates – all of which he did superbly in the last election. Anyone got free tickets for this circus?

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@jimiz_1

Did not know that you had such insight into the black psychological makeup.
Wonder if you grew up living the black experience, or, you are repeating things that many have tried to use to label blacks?

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So, I guess Del must be a Christian Socialist…

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@jimiz_1

Do have a case of “throwing the rock and hiding your hand?”

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Scout

Last week you posted an assertion. When asked to provide the facts you provided more implications and assertions.

Should call that naive or lying?

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Liberals …………… Warning ……….. Please do NOT read this !

“A person steals guns, (WHICH IS AGAINST THE LAW),

shoots and kills his own mother (WHICH IS AGAINST THE LAW),

Transports these guns loaded (WHICH IS AGAINST THE LAW),

Brings guns onto school property (WHICH IS AGAINST THE LAW),

Breaks into the school (WHICH IS AGAINST THE LAW),

Discharges the weapons within city limits (WHICH IS AGAINST THE LAW),

Murders 26 people (WHICH IS AGAINST THE LAW),

And commits suicide (WHICH IS AGAINST GOD’S LAW).

And there are people in this country that somehow think passing ANOTHER LAW
banning guns would protect us from someone like this.

If you haven’t noticed, people like this are not concerned about breaking laws – they only
care about fulfilling their own twisted agenda.

The only people that a gun ban law would impact are the LAW ABIDING
CITIZENS, which will only serve to cripple the ability to protect ourselves.”

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Getalife

I’m a realist

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Jackie – I can agre with that. Ten or fifteen rounds, either number will work for me.

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0311 – Thanks for the tip, but was not goin to read it anyway.

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Obama/Feinstein gun control/banning is far left propaganda and not a workable solution and they know it.

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@Recon

In what proposal or legislation have you found where guns are being banned?

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The republicans have tried to work with him , but how can you when its his way or no way.

Mitch McConnell says, “What”?

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Jackie,

see Diane Feinstein’s proposed bill and Obama’s proposal.

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“Government spending does not stimulate the economy. The economy is stimulated by private sector spending and government has impeded the private sectors motivation to invest”

All spending stimulates the economy.

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@jimiz_1

I see that you found the time and the nerve to come out your hiding to answer the specious assertions that you made about blacks.

I notice that you use the word “tripe” to obfuscate your true meaning and intentions. I am of the strong opinion that you do not mean anything that you said because you have no concrete means or methods to prove any of it.

Secondly, the use of pejoratives is truly indicative of someone that has a shallow understanding of the subject matter. In other words, you have no idea as to what you are talking about.

Third, “bust me out” on any subject matter that we have discussed. I feel that you are trying to make an argument that is not grounded in facts.

A follower of Obama means to me that I voted for him because he represented the best interests of me and the country, unlike what I suspect was your choice, requiring someone to lead you blindly off a cliff.

Remember, it is not the fall that gets you, it is the sudden stop.

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td

To an extent you are correct. While Obama has never said “ban all weapons” as some on the right assert, he has said that he want so go back to the ban Clinton put in place.

It will not happen.

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@Recon

Being a military man yourself, do you think it is feasible that someone should own a rocket launcher; a 50-caliber sniper rifle; a grenade launcher?

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@td

You used the magic words, “ban assault weapons.”

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TBS

February 6th, 2013
10:04 pm

td

” While Obama has never said “ban all weapons” as some on the right assert, he has said that he want so go back to the ban Clinton put in place.”

Not totally true. He said he supported Feinstein’s legislation and it goes far past the Clinton bans.

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jim,

obominite, con-man in cheif,savoir and the rest of that garbage shows your insanity and ODS.

Get a grip on reality con and stop spewing that garbage.

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Jackie

February 6th, 2013
10:06 pm

@td

You used the magic words, “ban assault weapons.”

And yet not one progressive has been able to give a common sense definition of an “assault weapon”. Under Feinstein’s bill it would mean any rifle with a pistol grip, any shotgun with a pistol grip or any pistol that has a mag. capacity of over 10 rounds. This makes no common sense when there are rifles, shot guns and pistols that are way more lethal that do not have a pistol grip.

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I think a closer inspection of how our military research and development labs operate, one would find the working coming from those facilities did, in fact, spawn much of the innovation we have today.

Admiral Grace Hooper, the architect of the programming language COBOL which commercialized the large computer and was a major catalyst in the growth of IBM; FORTRAN came from IBM and Admiral Hooper; the internet came from a collection of military labs; TEFLON was originally designed to be used as a armor for soldiers and equipment.

The military has played a significant role in commercial development. Anything you see now, relative to electronics, is probably 5 to 10 years behind the military.

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No, but semi-automatics be they long guns, short guns or hand guns isn’t a problem IMO. Those who’re collectors and can pass stringent background tests should in my opinion not be deprived of owning fully automatic weapons. I’m a proponent of universal background checks so long as the database is populated with those deemed to be mentally disturbed.

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Jackie, sorry but my last was for you.

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“Then cut all taxes on corporate money coming back from overseas and you would see an explosion in spending,”

If they were going to spend it, they would spend it. If it’s just sitting there, it’s not stimulating ANY economy.

: approve the Keystone pipeline and you would see an explosion in spending”

In case you haven’t noticed, it’s in the works now that a safer route has been approved. Of course, there’s those OTHER states that haven’t found a route yet…but what the heck, even if you build a pipeline that just ends somewhere in the middle of nowhere…it’s spending, right?

“approve oil exploration on public land”

If that was going to do any good, they’d be working the leases they ALREADY have and that they are just sitting on.

“and approve contracts to build more refineries.”

Yeah, like the pipeline. We don’t really NEED more refineries, but that shouldn’t matter. Just build ‘em and then let ‘em sit.

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Recon

Name the day, I will drive and buy the meals.

You in?

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I think we the people should be allowed to own the same weapons as the military. This government is out of control who is going to protect us from them?

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Liberal vs. Conservative

Emotion vs. Reason

Nite all ……………. be nice to each other !

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Recon @ 10:22

You hit the nail (TBS) on the head !

You can have the first watch ………. TAPS !

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This is a good idea:

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/02/07/us/07philly.html?_r=0

Also, they should show pictures of those 20 children slaughtered and that would spark outrage.

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The most pertinent question on the table is; why do non rich White people vote Republican ??? The Republican party haven’t done anything for non rich White Americans except jack up your taxes to pay off the massive debt that the Republicans ran up and used slash and burn tactics against your social programs that your tax dollars pay for… The Republicans used divide and conquer tactics to pit one group of Americans against other groups, mainly for political reasons… The rich and elite are the “takers”, the non rich are the providers and the losers.. When are the non rich White Americans going to wake up and realize that the Republican party is your worst enemy…

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Recon

And all you said did not prove your assertion.

Again, let’s go to one of these towns, at my expense, and we will see what impacts or doesn’t.

It has nothing to do with opinion. It is fact or it isn’t. I’m willing, on my dime, for you to show me different.

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Scout

If it wasn’t “emotion” that was leading you to continually post about a Reagan/Carter blowout, what was it? sure wasn’t “reason”

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@Recon

Another subject that civilians don’t understand is the effects of friendly fire.
What happens when someone looses their cool and starts to spray rounds all over the place.

Who stops the shooter from causing more damage, which is not collateral?

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@td

The look of a gun is not what scares anyone, it is the ability to be able to handle that weapon in close quarters.

Without a pistol grip, it requires two hands to control and accurately fire that weapon.

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Jackie,

I’m not a big fan of the 5.56×45 round. It was largely ineffective in Vietnam and was downright deadly to our own troops early on before the DOD mandated that the M-16 chambers needed to be chrome plated and eventually the barrels. I own a SR 556 the Sturm Ruger AR version. It’s piston operated verses the direct impingement operating system dating back to the early 60’s M-16 designed by Gene Stoner. I enjoy target shooting with this gun but would never trust it for self defense. This clamor for banning these firearms is stupid. We need to get serous about keeping guns out of the hands of the mentally ill and violent criminals.

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jim is a racist.

“We need to get serous about keeping guns out of the hands of the mentally ill and violent criminals.”

Ban guns?

Universal background check?

Take your pick.

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TBS,

Yeah, we can saddle up and got to Lejeune in J-ville N.C. or Ft. Bragg, Ft. Benning or Pendelton in California drink a lot of beer. It would be fun but what could be proven.

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@td

In close quarters, which would you rather have, something that is small, light and easily handled rather than a 30.06 or .44 magnum.

Secondly, those that don’t have the experience, knows that when you are being shot at, or, have to shoot at something other than the paper targets at the shooting range, your first 3 or 4 shoots will be erratic as your level of adrenalin is so elevated.

Yes, I would rather have a .22 caliber instead of the large gun. Keep in mind, the AR15 uses .223 ammo.

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Jackie

February 6th, 2013
10:56 pm

I would rather have a shotgun or a pistol then a AR-15 in close quarters like my house. If I wanted to reach out a shoot a person say at 200 yards then I would take the 30.06 over the AR-15. If I had to shoot 3 or 4 people at 100 feet then the AR-15 would be the best weapon.

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@td

The shotgun is perfect for home protection.
How often would have a situation where you needed to shoot someone at 100 yards or more?
If you had to shoot multiple times, would a semi-automatic do the same job?

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Self defense in this state.

Not in any way, shape or form.

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Jackie

February 6th, 2013
11:07 pm

@td

The shotgun is perfect for home protection.
How often would have a situation where you needed to shoot someone at 100 yards or more?
If you had to shoot multiple times, would a semi-automatic do the same job?

All of my guns are semi-automatic except for the .44 mag revolver ( which I would prefer in close quarters because the round would still be lethal through a wall or a sofa. My 30.06 is Semi auto (deer hunting) and I have several mags including a 20 round mag.

As far as needing a weapon at a 100 yards, I can think of several situations that could call for it and it is better to be prepared then not to be prepared. Not to mention the fact that it is my constitutional right to have guns with that capability.

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@td

You do have a constitution right to own a firearm. However, you have a constitutional responsibility not to infringe upon the life and liberty of anyone else outside your area of constitutional rights.

In other words, if you shoot someone outside your home on the premise that you are protecting yourself from that person, your constitutional rights are no longer valid; you will be charged with a crime and most likely loose your constitutional right to freedom.

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Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes

February 6th, 2013
11:09 pm

Self defense in this state.

Not in any way, shape or form.

“Defense from a forcible felony; A person is justified in using threats or force to the degree they reasonably believe it is necessary to stop another person’s imminent use of unlawful force. A person is justified in using deadly force which may harm or kill only if he or she reasonably believes that such force is necessary to prevent death or great bodily injury to himself or herself or a third person or to prevent the commission of a forcible felony (unless it is regarding defense of habitation, which has it’s own requirements below). You are not justified if you were the aggressor or you are/were/on-the-way-to committing a felony. (The state has pre-empted local cities and counties from further restricting this defense.)(16-3-21)”

Fits my situation to a tee my friend. “reasonably believe”. If you have a gun in your hand and am heading towards my house then I am going to believe you intend to do bodily harm to me or my family and I can use deadly force to stop you.

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Jackie

February 6th, 2013
11:20 pm

Not according to Georgia state law. We do not live in a state where the person has to be in your house any longer.

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Spray three 90 round clips.

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Spray three 90 round clips.

There’s no such thing as a 90 round clip. The last was an 8 round clip in the M1-Garand.

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The gentleman that killed a young guy for turning around in his driveway has nothing to worry about.

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Clips and magazines are entirely different. Clips are low capacity and magazines which are spring activated are capable of feeding high capacity rounds into the chambers of today’s semi-automatic firearms and fully automatic firearms.

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Good night Jackie and other vets along with the rest of you.

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Good morning to all y’all…

Truth-o-meter…well said.

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mornin’. Not that any RNCer cares what I think but our pogo has inspired me to weigh in–

the democrats are willing to just keep on handing out the entitlements at the expense of the taxpayers and to the detriment of nation.

That. That’s what you have to change, more than anything else–this corrosive, self-destructive mindset you’ve instilled in your base, and expressed from the top of your ticket in 2012, that the other guys only/mostly win because they promise “free stuff” to the moochers.

Kevin Williams was right to seize upon what most would’ve just dismissed as a statistical anomaly. 81% of New Yorkers voted for Obama (apparently–I’ll take his word for it.) Think for just a moment–does it make any sense to imagine that anything like 81% of New Yorkers are “mooching” off the 19%?

So, step one–tell your people to stop actively insulting the potential customers. Do that and I might believe that you’re not just hopelessly antiquated and bigoted at your core. I might even stop believing that modern conservatism’s Prime Directive is to simply “piss off liberals,” as I’ve oftimes asserted, only half in jest.

/drive-by

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Conservative values are eroding across all racial lines…….children without 2 parents, children raising children……so long as this culture is “rewarded”, it will grow……all races! If you draw attention to it, you are labeled as something evil……Nobody said life was easy….

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Conservative values are eroding across all racial lines…….children without 2 parents, children raising children……so long as this culture is “rewarded”, it will grow

Well, considering the idea that children have been growing up with single parents since at least Sally Hemming gave birth, I don’t see how one can consider this being a new or sudden issue.

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Brosephus……..You added ” not new” idea didn’t you……….excellent deflection as usual…….Not a problem since it’s now accepted as “ok” and “normal”…..

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Redcoat

It was accepted as “ok” and “normal” when slave masters knocked up their slaves. Those kids didn’t grow up with both of their parents. It was accepted as “ok” and “normal” when Blacks were lynched leaving their kids without parents.

Deflection my ass. You’re trying to pretend that this country is all perfect and stuff when we have had these things going on as long as we’ve been a country. Trying to make it sound as though it’s now a problem is bullcrap. Yeah, I added “not new” idea because kids have been growing up in single parent homes since they set foot on American soil.

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BRO

I read your posts after I jumped last evening. Relative to the allegation that I’m preoccupied by partisan behavior…well I guess the only posts of mine you read are those not involving women, gay rights, foreign policy and the like.

It took spending of $2 billion between BO and Romney to participate in the presidential auction. What else needs to be said about money which along with power, corrupts.

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Because only white rabbits can be racists:

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2013/02/07/family-sues-disneyland-claims-rabbit-was-racist/?test=latestnews

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I read your posts after I jumped last evening. Relative to the allegation that I’m preoccupied by partisan behavior…well I guess the only posts of mine you read are those not involving women, gay rights, foreign policy and the like.

Nope, I read most of all your posts. You have the appearance of leaning and/or supporting the right based on your incessant need to always throw something back to the left without addressing whatever the topic is for the thread. If your posts actually addressed the topic at hand before you went off on a tangent, then I’d be more inclined to see you as simply playing devil’s advocate. That’s just my view though.

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Maybe I’m reading this wrong, but blaming the government for impeding private sector spending sounds like blaming your co-worker in the next cubicle at work for you not being able to get wood to do your business at home with the wife/girlfriend.

Those whiney cons must be coming up a little short, eh.

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“Lefty’s desire for government take over of EVERYTHING.”

You lie

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TAX,

Speaking of playing with guns, did you see this…

http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/02/07/16881366-cops-19-machine-guns-grenade-launcher-seized-from-utility-workers-home?lite

Incredible.

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JAY,
By the way, Today marks the anniversary the Beatles first came to the USA. Good FNM subject, huh?

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Today marks the anniversary the Beatles first came to the USA.

Yebbut it’d be the 49th anniversary, not the fittieth.

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Reince Priebus, the man that said we need more money in politics. There’s your sign.

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Find Muck

February 7th, 2013
7:23 am

GOP is the only idea standing in defiance of Lefty’s dream of government takeover of everything. The apparatchiks in the media are
painting a picture that any opposition to the regime is hate.
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You need to review GW’s expansion of the government before you start spouting false statements

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Find Muck

February 7th, 2013
7:49 am

Lefty’s dream, buttlicker.
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Is that your 9 to 5?

And what do you do about chapped lips?

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government take over of EVERYTHING

Not that “Find Muck” is worthy of a civil response, but for us rational people–that is truly a bizarre thing, I think, to worry about.

We Americans have, by my first-cuppa-joe reckoning:

- high unemployment,

- (mostly) sh-tty, underfunded urban transit systems serving the areas where most people actually live,

- appalling atmospheric greenhouse gas levels (worldwide problem, of course, but we’re pumping a lot of it) due to our lazy continued dependence on filthy fossil fuels,

- the potential to lose our current “most powerful nation ever on the planet” status a good deal more quickly than we’d like if we don’t adjust our educational system to provide the right information to the right people, and

- even after 2014 and the PPACA really kicks in, probably the civilized world’s lousiest, least-efficient health insurance system.

That’s stuff worth worrying about. Not “government take over of EVERYTHING”. If and when elected officials and their rules/regs can be brought to bear to improve those things I listed, let’s do it.

It’s all “governance,” anyway, whether it’s some publicly funded bureaucrat or some privately funded bureaucrat doing the grunt work.

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Another part of the GOP’s problem is how they use black conservatives to push an agenda that the majority of black people see as antithetical to their best interests!! When you see and hear how certain black conservatives lambaste their own people…spouting the same racist idioms as their white counterparts, many of us wonder “ARE they thinking?”…not just “WHAT are they thinking?”.

When many black people see how Colin Powell is treated by Republicans (particularly the BOOING he suffered at the GOP Convention), we can expand that treatment to a national scale…plus, we see and understand that prior Republican policies that heretofore allowed black and minority progress (Affirmative Action, union rights, for example) are now being eroded by the same party that previously championed them!!

Kevin Williams’ article is a starting point’ more conservatives….particularly the black conservatives should read this!

How Black Conservatives Hurt Their Cause…..by James Thindwa

http://www.blackcommentator.com/154/154_thindwa_black_conservatives.html

If the GOP is actually SERIOUS about opening up…they should make the meeting OPEN TO THE PUBLIC….and get a TRUE idea as to how they’ve screwed up in the minority community! They won’t like what they hear….but the truth should motivate them!!

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Why not bring Clarence down from the Supreme Court as an example of a Black who is a staunch Republican (He probably is not busy because he let’s others do all the work) . He can show Blacks how to put a handkerchief on their head and say yes sir and no sir like he does with Scalia.

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“Blacks who teach their children to value education, work hard, be articulate and play by the rules are appalled at the disrespect heaped on this president whom they see as an example of one who did that. The message that Blacks have internalized is that one can get as much education and be successful and still that is not enough to earn basic respect from too many in the Republican Party.”

Quite true, Truth…but there’s more!!

Not just the disrespect lumped upon the President….but when those who followed the previous statement have their credentials CHALLENGED by conservative institutions, i.e., employers, it also shows a lack of respect for those who played by the rules…..and lends to ask this question: Why bother….what can I get out of the system that disrespects me as being accomplished??

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Jay- Why has the Republican Party — the party of abolition, of Abraham Lincoln, of Colin Powell and Condi Rice — found it so difficult to attract not just black voters but voters of almost any minority group

I believe this is what the Demwits call “the 47% solution”. The party of handouts wins when the only thing reported in the news is “evil, rich, white Republicans want to take away your SS, healthcare, food stamps, etc, etc, etc,…”

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Yesterday, a large number of high school football seniors signed for full scholarships to various colleges.

Just out of curiosity, do they have to pass the same academic tests for admission as the non sports playing students?

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HDB- Blacks who teach their children to value education, work hard, be articulate and play by the rules are appalled at the disrespect heaped on this president whom they see as an example of one who did that.

Incompetence is not limited to any single race. It’s a shame you judge people by the color of their skin rather than the content of their character.

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Most every black who is a Republican is treated the same way. They are defiled, demonized and mocked for having an opinion which is in direct opposition to the rest of their race. JC Watts was a good example. After calling the Congressional Black Caucus a bunch of race pimps, he didn’t have a black friend left except those of his own party. Opposition blacks are such a threat to the status quo that they are out there all alone. I would not call Thomas Sowell, or Larry Elder or Herman Cain or others like them some kind of oreo or Uncle Tom. They are just expressing their opinion as to how they see things. Ah, but liberals can’t stand that. Anything that interferes in any way with their own spin is the enemy and must be destroyed or vilified. Tolerance? In the liberal world, it doesn’t exist.

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independent thinker

February 7th, 2013
8:03 am

That commentary is consistent to what happens to any african american who takes public office as anything other than a DEM. That is completely understandable but the GOP will never compete with the DEMs in terms of interest in well-being. It’s a shame that most if not all african americans who are elevated as conservative leaning are cast as Uncle Tom’s and the like….

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“I wish someone could explain to me why it is that we feel the need to be the strongest country on earth and why that matters in the least.”

It’s because a LOT of people are scared to death of which country would be the alternative “big power”

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Indigo- Just out of curiosity, do they have to pass the same academic tests for admission as the non sports playing students?

No. They just have to pass the minimum standards establish by the NCAA clearinghouse. Another reason why major programs have pathetic graduation rates. Their athletes are forced to take classes at a school they have no business attending.

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Granny Godzilla

February 7th, 2013
8:15 am

Words alone can’t adequately shape my distain for our imperialistic ways…it’s arrogant, digusting, and embarassing. Now we have all sides whining about cutting 5% or so from defense budget.

What sense of pride can anyone get out of that?

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Doggone/GA

you might like this clip from the HBO show The Newsroom

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=16K6m3Ua2nw

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kayaker 71
February 7th, 2013
8:15 am

The question you should ask conservatives like Sowell, Thomas, Elder, et. al.: “Why are you advocating abolition of policies that allowed YOU to progress?”

Many black people see them as primarily mouthpieces for the white conservative establishment…..and they parrot that same racist idiom…and many black people can see through them. When Colin Powell and Barack Obama are disrespected by white conservative establishments, that speaks volumes!! It’s not just the policies…it’s the TONE!!

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JKL2 – 8:29

Then that is, indeed, a disgraceful situation.

I would think that students who have to work very hard to make the grades necessary to get into Tech or Georgia would not appreciate “student athletes” getting in just because they are big, strong and fast runners. I would think their parents would not appreciate this either.

And yet, no one seems to publicly mind this.

I wonder why?

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Sorry, Uncle Samanatha…I can’t view videos from my work PC

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Granny Godzilla

February 7th, 2013
8:22 am

I’m simply regurgitating comments that have been made here already and in the public in general…it’s pretty well documented…

Its’ sad that Rice and Thomas in this example are critized so heavily…understandable but sad…

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Ahh another Jay gloating over the demise of the GOP…but why have the Democratic Party…just turn everything over to King Obama or is that Father Obama…after all he ignores Congress, does as he pleases and no one calls his hand..but then all have that tingly feeling running down your leg…

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Stevie Ray..Clowns to the left and Jokers to the right..here I am…

February 7th, 2013
8:28 am

Granny Godzilla

February 7th, 2013
8:22 am

I’m simply regurgitating comments that have been made here already and in the public in general…it’s pretty well documented…

Its’ sad that Rice and Thomas in this example are critized so heavily…understandable but sad
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And I say again that the regurgitation you are regurgitating was mostly “gurged” by
conservatives putting words in other people mouths.

I think it’s pretty well documented here right now.

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Stevie Ray..Clowns to the left and Jokers to the right..here I am…
February 7th, 2013
8:24 am

“Screwed up the black community”? You missed the key word — IN! Think about the policies they espouse…and they tone in which that message is transmitted……yuo’ll see the evidence as to how they screwed up IN the community……..

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kayaker 71

February 7th, 2013
8:33 am

And do those on this liberal love fest really think that folks like Nancy Pelosi and John Kerry sit in their mansions and worry about some kid on Chicago’s South with his pants down around his ankles? You liberals are a trip.
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Yes. They most likely do.

A very fine trip indeed.

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The GOP needs only to consult with td, Aesop, K71, etal to get the advice needed to bring in minorities.

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drop our household income down to $14.4k/year.

oy, is this The Stupids’ new “47%” for 2013?

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JKL2

What do you feel about Americans who lie and say they are foreign exchange students to get into college?

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Not near as bad as we do about the about folks who spread false allegations…..

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stands….

I know….I’m baaad girl too.

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Indigo- I would think its difficult to pull off such a scam.

Almost as hard as getting a birth certificate from Hawaii…

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kayaker 71

February 7th, 2013
8:44 am

curious, 8:36,,

Democrats has perfected “bringing in minorities”, although, for the most part, they could care less about them except at election time
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but but but Obama phones! takers! welfare!!!!

that takes 24/7/365/1460

mr silly pants

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Granny, 8:46,

It’s called buying votes. Even you can figure that out.

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kayaker 71
February 7th, 2013
8:44 am

Republicans have perfected “running off minorities”, and, for the most part, they could care less about them….except…THIS election cycle…..they showed Republicans what their combined voting strength actually is!! Now, Republicans have to reckon with this force…and they don’t know what to do and how to handle it…..except to attempt to disenfranchise it……….

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Granny,

It’s like that UAW worker in Detroit who looks at his union dues “contribution” every month and sees that he is not getting all that much bang for his buck. Then he decides that he is going to speak out about this unfairness. He is a threat to the system. Free society? In your dreams. Black Republicans are sort of like this union worker. They just don’t buy it anymore. But, man, do they pay the price.

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