According to my colleague Jim Galloway, RNC Chairman Reince Priebus is coming to the A-T-L tomorrow for a private conversation with black Republicans in the state, attempting to discover what the Grand Old Party can do differently to reach black voters.
Given the demographic changes underway in Georgia and Atlanta’s historic role as a center of both the black middle class and the civil rights movement, it’s an appropriate place to have the conversation.
The session is by invitation only, and is closed to the public. But it got me thinking: If you were in attendance, how would you advise Priebus? Why has the Republican Party — the party of abolition, of Abraham Lincoln, of Colin Powell and Condi Rice — found it so difficult to attract not just black voters but voters of almost any minority group, and more important, what can be done to change it?
I’ve written repeatedly that the current division is not merely bad for the Republican Party, it’s bad for the state of Georgia and bad for the country as a whole. But how can it be changed? (This assumes, of course, that this isn’t just another half-hearted PR scheme like previous “outreach efforts” by the party.)
So … any ideas?
(Personally, I thought the suggestions laid out by Kevin Williams in a recent Washington Post op-ed were a fine place to start. At the very least, adopting them would demonstrate an honest commitment to change the situation.)
– Jay Bookman
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Recon 0311 2533
February 6th, 2013
11:47 pm
Good night Jackie and other vets along with the rest of you.
Truth-o-meter
February 7th, 2013
12:20 am
TM is a great case study in why it will be difficult for Republicans to win over minority voters.
A writer once said, “There are two warring dogs inside of me and I know which will win…..The one that I feed.” For generations Republicans have fed their base the line that minorities are the takers. That belief is now in their DNA, it seems. Even on this page I lost count of the number of posts claiming such. Do you know how demeaning it is to people to hear this day in and out?
No one I know has quit his job because President Obama was re-elected.
And if you think Blacks vote based on race, ask Al Sharpton and Rev. Jesse Jackson how many votes they got when they ran for president. Then ask Alan Keyes how the Black vote worked for him.
Blacks who teach their children to value education, work hard, be articulate and play by the rules are appalled at the disrespect heaped on this president whom they see as an example of one who did that. The message that Blacks have internalized is that one can get as much education and be successful and still that is not enough to earn basic respect from too many in the Republican Party.
Corbin Sharpe. I think, therefore I am...I think.
February 7th, 2013
5:38 am
Good morning to all y’all…
Truth-o-meter…well said.
Brosephus™
February 7th, 2013
5:46 am
Government spending does not stimulate the economy. The economy is stimulated by private sector spending and government has impeded the private sectors motivation to invest.
Maybe I’m reading this wrong, but blaming the government for impeding private sector spending sounds like blaming your co-worker in the next cubicle at work for you not being able to get wood to do your business at home with the wife/girlfriend.
stands for decibels
February 7th, 2013
5:55 am
mornin’. Not that any RNCer cares what I think but our pogo has inspired me to weigh in–
the democrats are willing to just keep on handing out the entitlements at the expense of the taxpayers and to the detriment of nation.
That. That’s what you have to change, more than anything else–this corrosive, self-destructive mindset you’ve instilled in your base, and expressed from the top of your ticket in 2012, that the other guys only/mostly win because they promise “free stuff” to the moochers.
Kevin Williams was right to seize upon what most would’ve just dismissed as a statistical anomaly. 81% of New Yorkers voted for Obama (apparently–I’ll take his word for it.) Think for just a moment–does it make any sense to imagine that anything like 81% of New Yorkers are “mooching” off the 19%?
So, step one–tell your people to stop actively insulting the potential customers. Do that and I might believe that you’re not just hopelessly antiquated and bigoted at your core. I might even stop believing that modern conservatism’s Prime Directive is to simply “piss off liberals,” as I’ve oftimes asserted, only half in jest.
/drive-by
stands for decibels
February 7th, 2013
5:58 am
[B]laming the government for impeding private sector spending sounds like blaming your co-worker in the next cubicle at work for you not being able to get wood to do your business at home with the wife/girlfriend.
Wish I could fit that on a bumper sticker.
/outa here for realz
Redcoat
February 7th, 2013
6:00 am
Conservative values are eroding across all racial lines…….children without 2 parents, children raising children……so long as this culture is “rewarded”, it will grow……all races! If you draw attention to it, you are labeled as something evil……Nobody said life was easy….
Jack ®
February 7th, 2013
6:06 am
Diversity is a good thing. Especially when you choose to be diverse. Trying to force diversity has its pitfalls.
Brosephus™
February 7th, 2013
6:11 am
Conservative values are eroding across all racial lines…….children without 2 parents, children raising children……so long as this culture is “rewarded”, it will grow
Well, considering the idea that children have been growing up with single parents since at least Sally Hemming gave birth, I don’t see how one can consider this being a new or sudden issue.
Brosephus™
February 7th, 2013
6:12 am
Diversity is a good thing. Especially when you choose to be diverse. Trying to force diversity has its pitfalls.
Excellent post. I’d add that failing to diversify when everything else around you is diversifying will likely lead to your demise or you becoming a “permanent” minority. Whether we force diversity upon ourselves or not, eventually time will do it for us.
Redcoat
February 7th, 2013
6:21 am
Brosephus……..You added ” not new” idea didn’t you……….excellent deflection as usual…….Not a problem since it’s now accepted as “ok” and “normal”…..
JamVet
February 7th, 2013
6:32 am
“When the old guard at the SCLC and the NAACP dies off, we will finally have some progress for minority citizens in this country!”
???????????????????????????
Talk about living in a complete state of denial!
Just think of where we would be now had we left the events of the 1960s and 1970s NOT up to fed up blacks and liberal whites in the civil rights movement but instead up to the southern white Baptists who all left the Democratic party to become Republicans!
The GOP has signed it’s own political death warrant with it’s segregation forever policies.
And you can bet your bottom dollar that Frederick Douglass, if he were alive today, would be ripping this fascistic GOP a new one…
Brosephus™
February 7th, 2013
6:34 am
Redcoat
It was accepted as “ok” and “normal” when slave masters knocked up their slaves. Those kids didn’t grow up with both of their parents. It was accepted as “ok” and “normal” when Blacks were lynched leaving their kids without parents.
Deflection my ass. You’re trying to pretend that this country is all perfect and stuff when we have had these things going on as long as we’ve been a country. Trying to make it sound as though it’s now a problem is bullcrap. Yeah, I added “not new” idea because kids have been growing up in single parent homes since they set foot on American soil.
Stevie Ray..Clowns to the left and Jokers to the right..here I am...
February 7th, 2013
6:43 am
Seems to me that the summary of this particular forum suggests there may well be many things the GOP can do to improve rep with typical DEM voter profile. Unfortunately, those things are too far against the core grain of the so called “values” of that party (and yes BRO, these folks need christian cash and support). My first point was that this dope Plebus needs to spend some time at inner city school, Grady Trauma (particularly at wallet biopsy department), and other like places he avoids like the plague. The subject minorities get no empathy from GOP….and won’t anytime soon.
Stevie Ray..Clowns to the left and Jokers to the right..here I am...
February 7th, 2013
6:51 am
BRO
I read your posts after I jumped last evening. Relative to the allegation that I’m preoccupied by partisan behavior…well I guess the only posts of mine you read are those not involving women, gay rights, foreign policy and the like.
It took spending of $2 billion between BO and Romney to participate in the presidential auction. What else needs to be said about money which along with power, corrupts.
Stevie Ray..Clowns to the left and Jokers to the right..here I am...
February 7th, 2013
6:57 am
BRO
Look no further than the front page of today’s Wash Post….
http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/sen-menendez-contacted-top-officials-in-friends-medicare-dispute/2013/02/06/e01bf928-6fd4-11e2-aa58-243de81040ba_story.html
godless heathen - owner of many things he does not need
February 7th, 2013
7:05 am
Because only white rabbits can be racists:
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2013/02/07/family-sues-disneyland-claims-rabbit-was-racist/?test=latestnews
Corbin Sharpe. I think, therefore I am...I think.
February 7th, 2013
7:06 am
Growing up as an Army brat in the ’50’s, I had no inkling about race. The Armed Forces were ordered by President Truman to open up all jobs to minorities, so diversity was forced on them in a way…but…for us kids, a kid was a kid and skin color never entered into it. I had a great time exploring the Black Forest with all of them. It was neat.
When Dad was transferred to Fort Stewart around ‘57, I think, my world really changed. I had a Black friend from Germany whose family transferred with us, and I was appalled to find out we couldn’t go to the same school. That sucked and I did not like a bit of it. I got into a lot of trouble there and was called many names, but mostly “N***er Lover”. So, through my experience, I got involved with civil rights and voting registration. But…through it all, I was still white and I really did not understand segregation, even though I thought I did.
Sure, I saw the hatefulness of it, but I never could live it.
That is, until 1970 when I got out of the Navy the first time. Viet Nam had taught me some things, war sucks, undeclared war sucks worse, and if it wasn’t for a particular Black Gunny Sergeant, I would not have survived. Truthfully, the whole experience made me very angry. I came home back to Georgia, grew my hair long, bought a motorcycle and went “looking for America”. It was traveling through the South that I got a taste of pregidous, especially since I mostly used black businesses, gas stations, eateries, and such. I was even accused of being a “Yankee agitator coming down here to rile up our Ni***rs”.
Bottom line, I was taught to look at the person and not the skin and it has since occurred to me that even to have the need for diversity conferences at this stage of American development smacks of ignorance…and I might add, shame. That is totally unacceptable.
Brosephus™
February 7th, 2013
7:09 am
I read your posts after I jumped last evening. Relative to the allegation that I’m preoccupied by partisan behavior…well I guess the only posts of mine you read are those not involving women, gay rights, foreign policy and the like.
Nope, I read most of all your posts. You have the appearance of leaning and/or supporting the right based on your incessant need to always throw something back to the left without addressing whatever the topic is for the thread. If your posts actually addressed the topic at hand before you went off on a tangent, then I’d be more inclined to see you as simply playing devil’s advocate. That’s just my view though.
Find Muck
February 7th, 2013
7:21 am
GOP is the only thing standing in defiance of Lefty’s desire for government take over of EVERYTHING. The apparatchiks in the media are painting a picture that any opposition to the regime is hate.
This country is in deep deep doo doo,
TaxPayer
February 7th, 2013
7:21 am
Maybe I’m reading this wrong, but blaming the government for impeding private sector spending sounds like blaming your co-worker in the next cubicle at work for you not being able to get wood to do your business at home with the wife/girlfriend.
Those whiney cons must be coming up a little short, eh.
Find Muck
February 7th, 2013
7:23 am
GOP is the only idea standing in defiance of Lefty’s dream of government takeover of everything. The apparatchiks in the media are
painting a picture that any opposition to the regime is hate.
Doggone/GA
February 7th, 2013
7:25 am
“Lefty’s desire for government take over of EVERYTHING.”
You lie
TaxPayer
February 7th, 2013
7:28 am
Actually, the GOP are the ones wanting to take over everything that happens in the bedroom. Go play with your guns somewhere else.
Corbin Sharpe. I think, therefore I am...I think.
February 7th, 2013
7:32 am
TAX,
Speaking of playing with guns, did you see this…
http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/02/07/16881366-cops-19-machine-guns-grenade-launcher-seized-from-utility-workers-home?lite
Incredible.
stands for decibels
February 7th, 2013
7:33 am
back for a bit…
Not if the person [from 200 yards away] had a gun and I was scared that they were coming to my house with the gun to shoot me or my family. Self defense in this state.
Not if I’m on the jury it ain’t.
Corbin Sharpe. I think, therefore I am...I think.
February 7th, 2013
7:34 am
JAY,
By the way, Today marks the anniversary the Beatles first came to the USA. Good FNM subject, huh?
stands for decibels
February 7th, 2013
7:35 am
As a young reporter in the 1970s, I tried to attend a meeting of the local NAACP that had been advertised as a ‘public ‘ meeting to discuss a then controversial issue in our city. I was greeted at the front door of the ‘lodge hall’ by a group of members who told me in no uncertain terms that I was not welcome and would not be allowed inside.
And our “Peace” lived butthurtily ever after.
The end.
stands for decibels
February 7th, 2013
7:36 am
Today marks the anniversary the Beatles first came to the USA.
Yebbut it’d be the 49th anniversary, not the fittieth.
Granny Godzilla
February 7th, 2013
7:44 am
Truth-o-Meter
Great Post!
tiredofit
February 7th, 2013
7:46 am
Reince Priebus, the man that said we need more money in politics. There’s your sign.
Find Muck
February 7th, 2013
7:49 am
Lefty’s dream, buttlicker.
tiredofit
February 7th, 2013
7:54 am
Find Muck
February 7th, 2013
7:23 am
GOP is the only idea standing in defiance of Lefty’s dream of government takeover of everything. The apparatchiks in the media are
painting a picture that any opposition to the regime is hate.
++
You need to review GW’s expansion of the government before you start spouting false statements
Stevie Ray..Clowns to the left and Jokers to the right..here I am...
February 7th, 2013
7:54 am
Brosephus™
February 7th, 2013
7:09 am
Devils advocate and otherwise challenging what is considered conventional political thinking is IMO the most interesting approach especially to learn.
Anyhow attached is a synopsis of a paper written a while back featured today in Will’s Post column..I’d read it several years back but it pretty much describes my views on goverment’s self serving nature.
http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:http://www.montana.edu/econ/hfretwell/332/buchananpublicchoice.pdf
Granny Godzilla
February 7th, 2013
7:54 am
Find Muck
February 7th, 2013
7:49 am
Lefty’s dream, buttlicker.
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Is that your 9 to 5?
And what do you do about chapped lips?
TaxPayer
February 7th, 2013
7:58 am
Corbin,
Now you’ve gone and done it. Republicans will be insisting that grenade launchers are covered by the 2nd amendment as per the writer’s of the constitution’s original intent.
stands for decibels
February 7th, 2013
7:59 am
government take over of EVERYTHING
Not that “Find Muck” is worthy of a civil response, but for us rational people–that is truly a bizarre thing, I think, to worry about.
We Americans have, by my first-cuppa-joe reckoning:
- high unemployment,
- (mostly) sh-tty, underfunded urban transit systems serving the areas where most people actually live,
- appalling atmospheric greenhouse gas levels (worldwide problem, of course, but we’re pumping a lot of it) due to our lazy continued dependence on filthy fossil fuels,
- the potential to lose our current “most powerful nation ever on the planet” status a good deal more quickly than we’d like if we don’t adjust our educational system to provide the right information to the right people, and
- even after 2014 and the PPACA really kicks in, probably the civilized world’s lousiest, least-efficient health insurance system.
That’s stuff worth worrying about. Not “government take over of EVERYTHING”. If and when elected officials and their rules/regs can be brought to bear to improve those things I listed, let’s do it.
It’s all “governance,” anyway, whether it’s some publicly funded bureaucrat or some privately funded bureaucrat doing the grunt work.
Stevie Ray..Clowns to the left and Jokers to the right..here I am...
February 7th, 2013
8:00 am
BRO
BTW, I’m flattered that you would take the time to critique my approach on this forum..nice deflection away from the subject matter.
If you read many of my posts, you will note that I throw no shortage of crap at defense spending, religion, gay rights and womens rights..
Anyhow I get bored talking about myself…
HDB
February 7th, 2013
8:01 am
Another part of the GOP’s problem is how they use black conservatives to push an agenda that the majority of black people see as antithetical to their best interests!! When you see and hear how certain black conservatives lambaste their own people…spouting the same racist idioms as their white counterparts, many of us wonder “ARE they thinking?”…not just “WHAT are they thinking?”.
When many black people see how Colin Powell is treated by Republicans (particularly the BOOING he suffered at the GOP Convention), we can expand that treatment to a national scale…plus, we see and understand that prior Republican policies that heretofore allowed black and minority progress (Affirmative Action, union rights, for example) are now being eroded by the same party that previously championed them!!
Kevin Williams’ article is a starting point’ more conservatives….particularly the black conservatives should read this!
How Black Conservatives Hurt Their Cause…..by James Thindwa
http://www.blackcommentator.com/154/154_thindwa_black_conservatives.html
If the GOP is actually SERIOUS about opening up…they should make the meeting OPEN TO THE PUBLIC….and get a TRUE idea as to how they’ve screwed up in the minority community! They won’t like what they hear….but the truth should motivate them!!
Granny Godzilla
February 7th, 2013
8:02 am
I suspect that the GOP idea is simply going to amount to “re-gifting”
independent thinker
February 7th, 2013
8:03 am
Why not bring Clarence down from the Supreme Court as an example of a Black who is a staunch Republican (He probably is not busy because he let’s others do all the work) . He can show Blacks how to put a handkerchief on their head and say yes sir and no sir like he does with Scalia.
stands for decibels
February 7th, 2013
8:04 am
He can show Blacks how to put a handkerchief on their head and say yes sir and no sir like he does with Scalia.
Filed under “Stuff that shouldn’t make me laugh but does because I am a Bad Person.”
HDB
February 7th, 2013
8:08 am
“Blacks who teach their children to value education, work hard, be articulate and play by the rules are appalled at the disrespect heaped on this president whom they see as an example of one who did that. The message that Blacks have internalized is that one can get as much education and be successful and still that is not enough to earn basic respect from too many in the Republican Party.”
Quite true, Truth…but there’s more!!
Not just the disrespect lumped upon the President….but when those who followed the previous statement have their credentials CHALLENGED by conservative institutions, i.e., employers, it also shows a lack of respect for those who played by the rules…..and lends to ask this question: Why bother….what can I get out of the system that disrespects me as being accomplished??
TaxPayer
February 7th, 2013
8:09 am
We are all such bad persons sometimes.
JKL2
February 7th, 2013
8:09 am
Jay- Why has the Republican Party — the party of abolition, of Abraham Lincoln, of Colin Powell and Condi Rice — found it so difficult to attract not just black voters but voters of almost any minority group
I believe this is what the Demwits call “the 47% solution”. The party of handouts wins when the only thing reported in the news is “evil, rich, white Republicans want to take away your SS, healthcare, food stamps, etc, etc, etc,…”
JohnnyReb
February 7th, 2013
8:10 am
Gathering to sing Kumbaya is a good thing, but anyone that thinks Obama’s latest move that gives smartphones to the poor as a result of business awarded to one of his large dollar donors will never be happy with Republicans.
indigo
February 7th, 2013
8:11 am
Yesterday, a large number of high school football seniors signed for full scholarships to various colleges.
Just out of curiosity, do they have to pass the same academic tests for admission as the non sports playing students?
Stevie Ray..Clowns to the left and Jokers to the right..here I am...
February 7th, 2013
8:11 am
stands for decibels
February 7th, 2013
7:59 am
I wish someone could explain to me why it is that we feel the need to be the strongest country on earth and why that matters in the least.
I heard Carney’s brilliant commentary yesterday..he completely avoided questions relating to how drones are impacting our reputation outside of the US..
JKL2
February 7th, 2013
8:13 am
HDB- Blacks who teach their children to value education, work hard, be articulate and play by the rules are appalled at the disrespect heaped on this president whom they see as an example of one who did that.
Incompetence is not limited to any single race. It’s a shame you judge people by the color of their skin rather than the content of their character.
Granny Godzilla
February 7th, 2013
8:14 am
JKL2 can beat a dead horse with the best of them.
However, that horse is still dead.
Fakers and Skimmers….
kayaker 71
February 7th, 2013
8:15 am
Most every black who is a Republican is treated the same way. They are defiled, demonized and mocked for having an opinion which is in direct opposition to the rest of their race. JC Watts was a good example. After calling the Congressional Black Caucus a bunch of race pimps, he didn’t have a black friend left except those of his own party. Opposition blacks are such a threat to the status quo that they are out there all alone. I would not call Thomas Sowell, or Larry Elder or Herman Cain or others like them some kind of oreo or Uncle Tom. They are just expressing their opinion as to how they see things. Ah, but liberals can’t stand that. Anything that interferes in any way with their own spin is the enemy and must be destroyed or vilified. Tolerance? In the liberal world, it doesn’t exist.
Granny Godzilla
February 7th, 2013
8:15 am
Stevie Ray..Clowns to the left and Jokers to the right..here I am…
February 7th, 2013
8:11 am
stands for decibels
February 7th, 2013
7:59 am
I wish someone could explain to me why it is that we feel the need to be the strongest country on earth and why that matters in the least.
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Are you questioning American Exceptionalism you big commie you?
Just sayin’
Stevie Ray..Clowns to the left and Jokers to the right..here I am...
February 7th, 2013
8:16 am
independent thinker
February 7th, 2013
8:03 am
That commentary is consistent to what happens to any african american who takes public office as anything other than a DEM. That is completely understandable but the GOP will never compete with the DEMs in terms of interest in well-being. It’s a shame that most if not all african americans who are elevated as conservative leaning are cast as Uncle Tom’s and the like….
stands for decibels
February 7th, 2013
8:17 am
I wish someone could explain to me why it is that we feel the need to be the strongest country on earth and why that matters in the least.
That’s kind of like asking “Why do I exist?” And I think the answer to that one is way above my pay grade.
Doggone/GA
February 7th, 2013
8:17 am
“I wish someone could explain to me why it is that we feel the need to be the strongest country on earth and why that matters in the least.”
It’s because a LOT of people are scared to death of which country would be the alternative “big power”
Granny Godzilla
February 7th, 2013
8:18 am
kayaker 71
“After calling the Congressional Black Caucus a bunch of race pimps, he didn’t have a black friend left except those of his own party”
You don’t say!
I guess that would be like June Cleaver calling the PTA all sluts and then getting ticked for
being left off the phone tree!
EEEK!
JKL2
February 7th, 2013
8:19 am
Indigo- Just out of curiosity, do they have to pass the same academic tests for admission as the non sports playing students?
No. They just have to pass the minimum standards establish by the NCAA clearinghouse. Another reason why major programs have pathetic graduation rates. Their athletes are forced to take classes at a school they have no business attending.
stands for decibels
February 7th, 2013
8:20 am
TP, that A&C clip is sheer genius.
Stevie Ray..Clowns to the left and Jokers to the right..here I am...
February 7th, 2013
8:20 am
Granny Godzilla
February 7th, 2013
8:15 am
Words alone can’t adequately shape my distain for our imperialistic ways…it’s arrogant, digusting, and embarassing. Now we have all sides whining about cutting 5% or so from defense budget.
What sense of pride can anyone get out of that?
Granny Godzilla
February 7th, 2013
8:22 am
Stevie Ray..Clowns to the left and Jokers to the right..here I am…
February 7th, 2013
8:16 am
independent thinker
February 7th, 2013
8:03 am
That commentary is consistent to what happens to any african american who takes public office as anything other than a DEM. That is completely understandable but the GOP will never compete with the DEMs in terms of interest in well-being. It’s a shame that most if not all african americans who are elevated as conservative leaning are cast as Uncle Tom’s and the like….
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And yet we see only you and Kayaker using the terms “oreo” or “Uncle Tom”?
(Independent thinkers comment was inappropriate as well)
UNCLE SAMANTHA
February 7th, 2013
8:22 am
Doggone/GA
you might like this clip from the HBO show The Newsroom
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=16K6m3Ua2nw
Granny Godzilla
February 7th, 2013
8:23 am
I’ll take that as a yes, and to some small degree…..I do agree.
HDB
February 7th, 2013
8:23 am
kayaker 71
February 7th, 2013
8:15 am
The question you should ask conservatives like Sowell, Thomas, Elder, et. al.: “Why are you advocating abolition of policies that allowed YOU to progress?”
Many black people see them as primarily mouthpieces for the white conservative establishment…..and they parrot that same racist idiom…and many black people can see through them. When Colin Powell and Barack Obama are disrespected by white conservative establishments, that speaks volumes!! It’s not just the policies…it’s the TONE!!
Stevie Ray..Clowns to the left and Jokers to the right..here I am...
February 7th, 2013
8:24 am
HDB
February 7th, 2013
8:01 am
“Screwed up the black community”? What do you think the long term effects of entitlements do to the dreams and hopes of recipients? Of course it is important to point out most of recipients are white…and I think the entitlements over the long term are more enablers that entitlements…
indigo
February 7th, 2013
8:25 am
JKL2 – 8:29
Then that is, indeed, a disgraceful situation.
I would think that students who have to work very hard to make the grades necessary to get into Tech or Georgia would not appreciate “student athletes” getting in just because they are big, strong and fast runners. I would think their parents would not appreciate this either.
And yet, no one seems to publicly mind this.
I wonder why?
SBinF
February 7th, 2013
8:25 am
“RNC Chairman Reince Priebus is coming to the A-T-L tomorrow for a private conversation with black Republicans in the state.”
The three of them have booked a table at the Peachtree St. Starbucks.
Doggone/GA
February 7th, 2013
8:25 am
Sorry, Uncle Samanatha…I can’t view videos from my work PC
stands for decibels
February 7th, 2013
8:27 am
Now we have all sides whining about cutting 5% or so from defense budget.
“whining.” Sigh.
Unemployment Stories, Vol. Six: ‘If It Weren’t For My Children I Probably Would Have Killed Myself By Now’
I am fine and dandy with a careful dismantling of the military industrial complex. But it can’t be done via some cheezy across-the-board deal cut during a hostage situation. We have too many Americans who are already on the brink. Unless you have a proper plan to convert swords to plowshares, unless you know how to boost employment through comprehensive re-training and construction programs, don’t call it “whining.”
Stevie Ray..Clowns to the left and Jokers to the right..here I am...
February 7th, 2013
8:28 am
Granny Godzilla
February 7th, 2013
8:22 am
I’m simply regurgitating comments that have been made here already and in the public in general…it’s pretty well documented…
Its’ sad that Rice and Thomas in this example are critized so heavily…understandable but sad…
the dog
February 7th, 2013
8:29 am
Jackie
February 6th, 2013
11:33 pm
The gentleman that killed a young guy for turning around in his driveway has nothing to worry about.
I could not let this pass without comment. First, that is no gentleman that killed a brown kid for being in his driveway. Second, this case will be prosecuted as a murder case.
td-you are wrong on this being self defense.
Cosby
February 7th, 2013
8:29 am
Ahh another Jay gloating over the demise of the GOP…but why have the Democratic Party…just turn everything over to King Obama or is that Father Obama…after all he ignores Congress, does as he pleases and no one calls his hand..but then all have that tingly feeling running down your leg…
JKL2
February 7th, 2013
8:30 am
grannie- I wish someone could explain to me why it is that we feel the need to be the strongest country on earth and why that matters in the least.
Good to see your ignorance knows no bounds. Because you enjoy coming on here to blather and not have to worry about being killed for it. Because you like being able to go the grocery store and not have to worry about it exploding. Because you like to go to church without being shot for doing so.
To compete in your “new world order”, we need to drop our household income down to $14.4k/year. (It’s just not fair we have so much while other countries are starving). Be careful what you wish for.
obama: bring on the pain!
Granny Godzilla
February 7th, 2013
8:32 am
Stevie Ray..Clowns to the left and Jokers to the right..here I am…
February 7th, 2013
8:28 am
Granny Godzilla
February 7th, 2013
8:22 am
I’m simply regurgitating comments that have been made here already and in the public in general…it’s pretty well documented…
Its’ sad that Rice and Thomas in this example are critized so heavily…understandable but sad
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And I say again that the regurgitation you are regurgitating was mostly “gurged” by
conservatives putting words in other people mouths.
I think it’s pretty well documented here right now.
kayaker 71
February 7th, 2013
8:33 am
And do those on this liberal love fest really think that folks like Nancy Pelosi and John Kerry sit in their mansions and worry about some kid on Chicago’s South with his pants down around his ankles? You liberals are a trip.
HDB
February 7th, 2013
8:34 am
Stevie Ray..Clowns to the left and Jokers to the right..here I am…
February 7th, 2013
8:24 am
“Screwed up the black community”? You missed the key word — IN! Think about the policies they espouse…and they tone in which that message is transmitted……yuo’ll see the evidence as to how they screwed up IN the community……..
Granny Godzilla
February 7th, 2013
8:35 am
JKL2
What?
Wanna clean up that hot mess and try again?
Take a mulligan big fella.
Granny Godzilla
February 7th, 2013
8:35 am
kayaker 71
February 7th, 2013
8:33 am
And do those on this liberal love fest really think that folks like Nancy Pelosi and John Kerry sit in their mansions and worry about some kid on Chicago’s South with his pants down around his ankles? You liberals are a trip.
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Yes. They most likely do.
A very fine trip indeed.
stands for decibels
February 7th, 2013
8:36 am
Independent thinkers comment was inappropriate as well
well yeah, but it was deliberately so. (And, Lord help me, it was funny.)
Whereas, these right wing twits seem to think there’s nothing offensive about terms like “plantation” to describe the kind of social safety net that any self-respecting civilized nation would have.
If you’re going to use gross, offensive terminology, at least OWN it. don’t get all butthurt and say “but my favorite Republican Black Guy said it so it’s ok!” fercryinoutloud.
curious
February 7th, 2013
8:36 am
The GOP needs only to consult with td, Aesop, K71, etal to get the advice needed to bring in minorities.
HDB
February 7th, 2013
8:37 am
Stevie Ray..Clowns to the left and Jokers to the right..here I am…
February 7th, 2013
8:24 am
HDB
February 7th, 2013
8:01 am
“Screwed up the black community”? What do you think the long term effects of entitlements do to the dreams and hopes of recipients? Of course it is important to point out most of recipients are white…and I think the entitlements over the long term are more enablers that entitlements…”
Note my 8:08………..
stands for decibels
February 7th, 2013
8:37 am
drop our household income down to $14.4k/year.
oy, is this The Stupids’ new “47%” for 2013?
JKL2
February 7th, 2013
8:37 am
Indigo- I would think that students who have to work very hard to make the grades necessary to get into Tech or Georgia would not appreciate “student athletes” getting in just because they are big, strong and fast runners.
EO says,”What?”. Just call it “diversity” and it’s high fives all around.
What do you feel about Americans who lie and say they are foreign exchange students to get into college?
Granny Godzilla
February 7th, 2013
8:39 am
JKL2
What do you feel about Americans who lie and say they are foreign exchange students to get into college?
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Not near as bad as we do about the about folks who spread false allegations…..
indigo
February 7th, 2013
8:42 am
JKL2
This is the first I’ve heard about Americans lying about being foreign exchange students. I would think its difficult to pull off such a scam.
Granny Godzilla
February 7th, 2013
8:43 am
stands….
I know….I’m baaad girl too.
kayaker 71
February 7th, 2013
8:44 am
curious, 8:36,,
Democrats has perfected “bringing in minorities”, although, for the most part, they could care less about them except at election time. But this type of voter doesn’t have sense enough to realize that they being scammed, even by their first black President. Black Republicans don’t fall for this crap. They don’t toot the NAACP horn or relish membership in a bunch of race baiters like the CBC. They have learned to think for themselves and make their own decisions. And this single thing makes them a threat to blacks in general and especially to Democrats. Diversity my arse.
JKL2
February 7th, 2013
8:45 am
Indigo- I would think its difficult to pull off such a scam.
Almost as hard as getting a birth certificate from Hawaii…
HDB
February 7th, 2013
8:45 am
One question I just though of: Where are they holding this meeting?? Willing to guess it’s where a lot of black people AREN’T?? Bet it’s not downtown…..or near Atlanta University Center…….
They won’t get the true input that they need……………..
Granny Godzilla
February 7th, 2013
8:46 am
kayaker 71
February 7th, 2013
8:44 am
curious, 8:36,,
Democrats has perfected “bringing in minorities”, although, for the most part, they could care less about them except at election time
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but but but Obama phones! takers! welfare!!!!
that takes 24/7/365/1460
mr silly pants
Stevie Ray..Clowns to the left and Jokers to the right..here I am...
February 7th, 2013
8:47 am
HDB
February 7th, 2013
8:08 am
Hard to disagree with your thoughts. My point is that in the long term, entitlements can stifle dreams and queer expectations. The paste is out of the tube but I’m not certain all the DEMS historically offered minorities are in minorities interest..
kayaker 71
February 7th, 2013
8:48 am
Granny, 8:46,
It’s called buying votes. Even you can figure that out.
Stevie Ray..Clowns to the left and Jokers to the right..here I am...
February 7th, 2013
8:48 am
Granny Godzilla
February 7th, 2013
8:39 am
BTW, I’m on the PTA and I’m a complete slut. Why do you feel it necessary to pick on me?
HDB
February 7th, 2013
8:50 am
kayaker 71
February 7th, 2013
8:44 am
Republicans have perfected “running off minorities”, and, for the most part, they could care less about them….except…THIS election cycle…..they showed Republicans what their combined voting strength actually is!! Now, Republicans have to reckon with this force…and they don’t know what to do and how to handle it…..except to attempt to disenfranchise it……….
GT
February 7th, 2013
8:50 am
The white Republicans want control. Minorities are the political power in control. What the GOP is saying is how we tame the minority that is actually the majority yet stay in charge of everything while we are the minority.
The right wanted Clarence Thomas types that vote white. In their filter Thomas is as qualified as any black man in America, only because he favors a white agenda. They don’t like Obama who reads out a far better resume because they don’t have control of him. They actually have to compromise and back off being closet bigots. It ain’t going to happen. And what they really miss the boat on is outside the south and some of the west most white people are repulsed by this insincerity too.
Did anyone see Morris got the ax from FOX? Has anyone noticed their stick in moving more to the middle? Could it be because they have lost 22% of their audience being in front of this radical and losing movement of the tea party? The state of Georgia should look at doing the same; it would benefit this state enormously. I would leave RNC Chairman Reince Priebus setting at the airport like the old Dixiecrats use to do with visiting Democrat leaders in the 60s and 70s. Disassociation with this party would be the best thing this state could do.
kayaker 71
February 7th, 2013
8:53 am
Granny,
It’s like that UAW worker in Detroit who looks at his union dues “contribution” every month and sees that he is not getting all that much bang for his buck. Then he decides that he is going to speak out about this unfairness. He is a threat to the system. Free society? In your dreams. Black Republicans are sort of like this union worker. They just don’t buy it anymore. But, man, do they pay the price.
Redneck Convert (R--and proud of it)
February 7th, 2013
8:53 am
Well, I reckon I’m like most of the Conservatives here. I long for the return of the farmhouse with a outhouse where I can look down my nose at the people that are even worse off.
Have a good Thursday everybody. It’s already wet out here and I hope all you folks in your comfy warm offices get a leak in your ceiling while the heat goes out.
Granny Godzilla
February 7th, 2013
8:54 am
kayaker 71
February 7th, 2013
8:48 am
Granny, 8:46,
It’s called buying votes. Even you can figure that out.
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I though that was done with tax breaks and fossil fuel subsidies and checks from tobacco companies handed out on the floor of the U.S. House of Representative by John Boehner?
who’d a thunk it.
HDB
February 7th, 2013
8:55 am
Stevie Ray..Clowns to the left and Jokers to the right..here I am…
February 7th, 2013
8:47 am
Understand your point……but here’s where trickle-down theory WORKS!! When you see those who played by the rules, got an education, desire to work…..are denigrated by the conservative majority, the question “why bother” comes into effect……and that trickles down through generations!! That attitude must change……on BOTH sides of the equation!!!
Granny Godzilla
February 7th, 2013
8:56 am
Stevie…
I just bet you are!
wink wink, nudge nudge
Granny Godzilla
February 7th, 2013
8:58 am
kayaker 71
February 7th, 2013
8:53 am
Granny,
It’s like that UAW worker in Detroit who looks at his union dues “contribution” every month and sees that he is not getting all that much bang for his buck. Then he decides that he is going to speak out about this unfairness. He is a threat to the system. Free society? In your dreams. Black Republicans are sort of like this union worker. They just don’t buy it anymore. But, man, do they pay the price.
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Which UAW worker is that Kayaker?
Which one?