GOP coming to Atlanta for ideas on diversifying

According to my colleague Jim Galloway, RNC Chairman Reince Priebus is coming to the A-T-L tomorrow for a private conversation with black Republicans in the state, attempting to discover what the Grand Old Party can do differently to reach black voters.

Given the demographic changes underway in Georgia and Atlanta’s historic role as a center of both the black middle class and the civil rights movement, it’s an appropriate place to have the conversation.

The session is by invitation only, and is closed to the public. But it got me thinking: If you were in attendance, how would you advise Priebus? Why has the Republican Party — the party of abolition, of Abraham Lincoln, of Colin Powell and Condi Rice — found it so difficult to attract not just black voters but voters of almost any minority group, and more important, what can be done to change it?

I’ve written repeatedly that the current division is not merely bad for the Republican Party, it’s bad for the state of Georgia and bad for the country as a whole. But how can it be changed? (This assumes, of course, that this isn’t just another half-hearted PR scheme like previous “outreach efforts” by the party.)

So … any ideas?

(Personally, I thought the suggestions laid out by Kevin Williams in a recent Washington Post op-ed were a fine place to start. At the very least, adopting them would demonstrate an honest commitment to change the situation.)

– Jay Bookman

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Granny Godzilla

February 6th, 2013
4:42 pm

I imagine they won’t need any hotels grand ballroom…..

maximum

February 6th, 2013
4:43 pm

They can start by accepting that minorities are human beings who want to experience “life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness” same as everyone else.

gadem also known as Benghazi

February 6th, 2013
4:47 pm

maybe start by not looking at minorities as takers and/or illegals. Exorcise the racist out of their party….

bman.

February 6th, 2013
4:49 pm

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комиссар (Occupation)

February 6th, 2013
4:52 pm

“I’ve written repeatedly that the current division is not merely bad for the Republican Party, it’s bad for the state of Georgia and bad for the country as a whole. But how can it be changed? ”

I’ve said it a thousand times.

Get them some real opposition.

Best thing Priebus could do is not meet with black Republicans, but meet with Democrats and see if he couldn’t persuade them to become an actual opposition party of the bold and radical left. That would be the best thing for the conservative brand that could ever come to them. But of course Priebus won’t do that, because he’s convinced — wrongly — that the Dems already are a party of the left. See the problem?

rwcole

February 6th, 2013
4:53 pm

Herman Cain said there will be 9 people meeting at 9 am to discuss 9 ways to accomplish their goals.

Redneck Convert (R--and proud of it)

February 6th, 2013
4:53 pm

Well, this is pretty easy. We promise Those People everything money can buy—free iPhones, free sports tickets, free iPads, free booze, free $2500 food stamp cards, free houses, free everything. Anything the librul Democrats promise we double.

That ought to be good for us to take the White House and the Senate and keep the House. Then, when we’re running things we pass laws to make it unnecessary to promise anymore freebies and not act on the ones we promised. Me, I’m kinda partial to bringing back the 3/5 rule, but there’s other ways, like packing all Those People and the Mexicans and their librul buddies into about 20 districts and making sure the rest are controlled by us. Then there’s photo ID my way, where Those People have to pay to get their picture tattooed on their butt in order to vote.

See? I told you this would be easy. Next question?

Stevie Ray..Clowns to the left and Jokers to the right..here I am...

February 6th, 2013
4:53 pm

JAY

I’d tell that jackass to take a tour of some of our inner city schools. What’s the odds that he will actually take time to challenge his own BS.

Perhaps he can sit with the new PBS employee. Oh I have an idea, why doesn’t he spend a fun filled evening at the Grady Hospital ER/Trauma center…

He’s not coming here to learn a damn thing…

Soothsayer

February 6th, 2013
4:53 pm

THE ATLER

February 6th, 2013
4:56 pm

Well the GOP is coming to the wrong place. This state is as one sided as Fox news.

Keep Up the Good Fight!

February 6th, 2013
5:01 pm

Well I would recommend that they not tell them that they are on the “Democratic Plantation”, drop the 47% nonsense and tell them that you will not let your party raise that kind of stupidity again.

Redneck Convert (R--and proud of it)

February 6th, 2013
5:02 pm

Why, Redneck Convert wouldn’t giver here the time of day at a measly 263 pounds!

Well, Sooth, I wouldn’t give her the time of day but her skinniness ain’t the problem. I wouldn’t do it because if the missus found out she’d tie my body into a bow and hang me from the door knocker as sort of a permanent Christmas decoration.

Logical Dude

February 6th, 2013
5:04 pm

Do I have to say it again?

a) Gerrymandering. (Quit trying to restrict the power of voters)
b) against immigration reform (which is a loser with minorities)
c) against women having rights (which is a loser with women)
d) describing minorities as (insert thesaurus terms here for “moocher”)
e) against gay marriage (which is a loser with the younger voters)

I know people will whine about (a), but really, RIGHT NOW REPUBLICANS ARE DOING IT.

(d) is the topic of the day, so quit defining minorities as moochers, or whatever term of the day is.

Realize that Race should be ignored.

Oh, and quit supporting stupid ignorant racists for office. They should all be Chip Rogered out of office.

Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes

February 6th, 2013
5:06 pm

But it got me thinking: If you were in attendance, how would you advise Priebus?

My advice would be for him to resign and get out of the way.

He is part of the current problem and is not part of the solution.

SueEllenEwing

February 6th, 2013
5:11 pm

Aha, ha, ha. Ha, ha, ha.

MANGLER

February 6th, 2013
5:11 pm

So will all 4 of the black Republicans be in attendance?

Veteran Observer

February 6th, 2013
5:12 pm

Columnist and author Starr Parker said it best. When the old guard at the SCLC and the NAACP dies off, we will finally have some progress for minority citizens in this country! Their racist attitudes and constant blaming white people for their community issues has been a major deterrent to racial understanding and equal opportunity in this state and around the country! There are young people that come onto this blog, that believe that black people are being lynched in this state on a regular basis! Nothing like that has happened in over forty or fifty years at least and maybe longer! There used to be very moral and strong black communities based around churches and their leaders, but the introduction of drugs and the destruction of two parent households has weakened those bonds and the leadership has blamed others for this failure! Even Bill Cosby was reviled and hounded for his statements that the black community needs to deal with their own issues and not blame others! There are actually a rapidly growing number of minority republicans, who preach personal responsibility to their peers and are becoming leaders in the party! Of course at this moment in time, the meeting needs to be closed so that they can provide input to the party leadership and not be hounded out of town by the mindless, lemming minority democrats with their shouts of “Oreo” and “Uncle Tom”!

комиссар (Occupation)

February 6th, 2013
5:12 pm

“But it got me thinking: If you were in attendance, how would you advise Priebus?”

File under “Questions that answer themselves”.

To Priebus: Don’t be in attendance at all.

td

February 6th, 2013
5:14 pm

A better question is why large parts of the African American community not embrace the Conservative principles of self reliance, American work ethic, less taxes, balanced budgets and religious freedom?

When Obama leaves office (and the Dems do not nominate another African American) then the 10 to 12% of conservative African Americans (mostly men) will come back and vote for the party.

The Republicans will paste Marco Rubio and Ted Cruz all over the TV for the next 4 years (Rubio is going to do the Republican response to Obama’s SOU) and will put them out front to talk about immigration reform and Hispanics will come back and vote 35 to 40% in 2016 like they did for Bush. If Rubio wins the nomination then they will vote 70 to 80% for Republicans.

Asians are the group that I do not understand. My wife is Asian and her and her entire family hates communism and sees the current democratic philosophy as communistic. Dems have been turning them away from the elite schools (when they are the most qualified) in CA for about 10 years now in the name of diversity and the Republican philosophy is all the same values they want.

indigo

February 6th, 2013
5:15 pm

“voters of almost any minority group”

The Republican Party sold itself to Big Business in exchange for campaign financing. Before long, they realized that only the dumbest voters would be blind to this. So, they began to, almost exclusively, court white fundamentalist Christians. Wining the fundamentalists over was easy. All Republicans had to do was preach the virtues of creationism and the evils of science.

This worked for a while and, since Republicans are notoriously short-term thinkers, the Party never even considered what would happen when these fundamentalist supporters began to be the minority.

The wakeup call has come. Republicans will now carefully screen other electorate groups, find the dumbest, and began to court them.

Anything and everything to get elected.

pogo

February 6th, 2013
5:17 pm

“Why has the Republican Party — the party of abolition, of Abraham Lincoln, of Colin Powell and Condi Rice — found it so difficult to attract not just black voters but voters of almost any minority group?”. The answer? Because the democrats are willing to just keep on handing out the entitlements at the expense of the taxpayers and to the detriment of nation. Black un-employment is around 13 or 14% in this country and still they vote for the party that pretty much takes them for granted. Whether you like it or not, blacks vote based upon the race of the candidate and nothing more. Mostly it is the entitlements though. That one is pretty simple.

Glognitz

February 6th, 2013
5:18 pm

Excorcise racists out of the GOP? Talk about emptying the building. This party is so bad that, as much I hate to say this, I would vote for a cat before I vote for anyone in the GOP. Generations of them have to die out for the deeply entrenched evil in their party to be washed out. Everything they are proposing so far is all about re-dressing the party in form of deceptive messages, and nothing about actually addressing issues and attitudes of substance.

td

February 6th, 2013
5:19 pm

Keep Up the Good Fight!

February 6th, 2013
5:01 pm

“Well I would recommend that they not tell them that they are on the “Democratic Plantation”,

You do understand that the term and subject came from the Thomas Sowell and Larry Elder (African American conservative columnist) and was used on the campaign trail by Herman Cain (Conservative African American politician).

Did you hear the way Ben Jealous talked about Senator Tim Scott? Talk about degrading.

Stevie Ray..Clowns to the left and Jokers to the right..here I am...

February 6th, 2013
5:22 pm

At least Aunt Fannies cabin isn’t around anymore for picture opps..

Perhaps dinner with Truitt Cathy? Love to get a shot of him standing in line at the Varsity…

All he is going to get is confirmation that the GOP agenda has nothing to offer…particularly since we finally have a black man in office that at least offers a sense of pride.

Real American

February 6th, 2013
5:22 pm

HAHAHAHA!! That td is so funny.

DannyX

February 6th, 2013
5:22 pm

If Priebus wants to tackle the token issue he would have a lot better luck trying to convince Monopoly to keep the iron.

Redneck Convert (R--and proud of it)

February 6th, 2013
5:23 pm

Well, what kind of name is Reince Priebus? Sounds like a furriner to me. Or maybe something you put on your dishes to get rid of soap scum. No self-respecting American Mom would hang a handle like that on her kid. For that matter, no self-respecting redneck would ever vote for him. He might as well stay home instead of coming down here.

That’s my advise and I’m sticking to it. Have a good night everybody. Me and old Ace got some Fox News to watch.

Glognitz

February 6th, 2013
5:23 pm

The trouble with the GOP is that everything they stand for is rooted in intolerance, evil, racism, misplaced anger, deep and insane hatred for the President, disdain for the less fortunate and those who don’t look like them, a sense of entitlement by virtue of their color…….I could go on and on, but I have made hy point.,

fedup

February 6th, 2013
5:23 pm

As long TPs (tail) wag the dog Priebus is just wasting the money.

Brosephus™

February 6th, 2013
5:24 pm

Part of Mr. William’s #5 should be #1…

While you are at it, commit to ending the practice of gerrymandering which has only served to isolate and dis-empower urban and minority voters.

However, not only should the commit to ending it, the GOP would go a long way towards trying to eliminate any perception in bias by going as far as overhauling election processes to get politics out of redistricting, voter registration, and anything else where politics is a detriment to the process.

I’d have no problem supporting either party that did that.

Stevie Ray..Clowns to the left and Jokers to the right..here I am...

February 6th, 2013
5:25 pm

Glognitz

February 6th, 2013
5:18 pm

I don’t like the guy either…of course I don’t like most of the politicians, most of all those who get the most airtime.

But blindly suggesting that the GOP is based in racism is a bit much. Some are idiots (they have no corner on that market), some are closet bigots, but racist allegations does nothing for the conversation.

Oscar

February 6th, 2013
5:25 pm

Well, it’s pretty simple. Tell him you can’t be raciest and get black and hispanic votes at thr sam time.

getalife

February 6th, 2013
5:26 pm

I have an idea for the gop.

Retire.

midtownguy

February 6th, 2013
5:27 pm

I am a fiscally conservative gay man. All the Republicans have to do to get my vote is to quit attacking me. They don’t have to support marriage equality, they just have to get out of bed with groups like the Georgia “Christian” Coalition and others who are constantly in attack mode against anyone and everyone who is not white, christian and straight.

Dunwoody Granny

February 6th, 2013
5:27 pm

Since the national party has spent the last 40 years honing a Southern Strategy aimed at recruiting politicians and voters who are inimical to the interests of most minorities, and black Americans in particular, I think they have an uphill battle. As they will if they ever decide to try to appeal to single women.

Stevie Ray..Clowns to the left and Jokers to the right..here I am...

February 6th, 2013
5:27 pm

Brosephus™

February 6th, 2013
5:24 pm

I get the impression that gerrymandering is a practice exclusive to the GOP? Do the DEMs when in control not try to gain advantage in similar fashion?

Oscar

February 6th, 2013
5:28 pm

Stevie – funny – timing is everything.

Racist allegation does do somrthing – it brings the element of truth into the conversation. You can’t solve a problem until you come out of denie.. The elephant in the room has to be discussed. (pun intened)

Oscar

February 6th, 2013
5:30 pm

Strvie – You are right, gerrymandering is done by both parties. It should be outlawed.

Doggone/GA

February 6th, 2013
5:31 pm

“I get the impression that gerrymandering is a practice exclusive to the GOP? Do the DEMs when in control not try to gain advantage in similar fashion?”

Sure…but at this time it’s not the Dems worrying about how to attract more voters.

Stevie Ray..Clowns to the left and Jokers to the right..here I am...

February 6th, 2013
5:32 pm

midtownguy

February 6th, 2013
5:27 pm

Couldn’t agree more. We could start with Ralph Reed…then eliminate tax exempt status….get their noses out of the business of womens decisions and gay marriage….and other efforts that generally retard social progess..

gadem also known as Benghazi

February 6th, 2013
5:32 pm

That td is a HOOT!!!!!

Stevie Ray..Clowns to the left and Jokers to the right..here I am...

February 6th, 2013
5:32 pm

Oscar

February 6th, 2013
5:28 pm

Can you provide me with some GOP acts of racism that support your commentary?

DannyX

February 6th, 2013
5:33 pm

Right, its just about the freebies and entitlements! Keep saying that over and over and over again.

Never mind that the people Priebus is after are part of the large and growing black middle class that Republicans love to ignore and refuse to acknowledge their existence.

They’ll flock to your party!

Stevie Ray..Clowns to the left and Jokers to the right..here I am...

February 6th, 2013
5:34 pm

Oscar

February 6th, 2013
5:28 pm

I note your use of the word “allegations”…your starting to sound like Jesse Jackson in the process of shaking down another Fortune 500 company..

indigo

February 6th, 2013
5:35 pm

There was a time, long ago, when the word “integrity” actually meant something to Republican politicians.

Today, if anyone said, at a political meeting “we must restore integrity to our Party”, they would hooted and laughed out of the room.

Does anyone truly wonder why so much of our society is now built on a solid foundations of lies?

Soothsayer

February 6th, 2013
5:36 pm

Judging by some the comments from our Fright-Wing bloggers, I would suggest that they give up their day jobs and start writing fiction for a living.

Yep, that there N double A CP and that there SCLC done led Black folk astray all these years. Just think where they could be now without all that there “outside agitatin.’

Why, it just boggles the mind is what it does.

Stevie Ray..Clowns to the left and Jokers to the right..here I am...

February 6th, 2013
5:37 pm

pogo

February 6th, 2013
5:17 pm

Good points but that has been the main theme of the DEMs since…forever? Thats a given in my book.

Thomas Heyward Jr

February 6th, 2013
5:38 pm

So … any ideas?
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The NAP.
Non-Aggression Pact.
Nothing that’s any good in this world requires Force.
.
Much to the chagrin of the Republican AND Democrat Party, the youth get it.
They grow tired of bankrolling Geezer Conservatism and Violent Progressivism.
The above morally bankrupt idealogies are …………literally……….dying.

.
And Eff Reince Priebus and his black SUV he rides in on…………………..and…………………….
FORWARD FREEDOM.

Krystal'sBalls

February 6th, 2013
5:38 pm

The GOP might as well give it up, really. I just came across a Yahoo article on the Ashley Judd story and what American Crossroads put out as a web ad. One word to describe it – DESPICABLE!

The lady hasn’t even officially thrown her hat into the ring. The State of the Union address hasn’t even taken place and these clowns demonstrate once again they are capable of nothing except INSULTING themselves into IRRELEVANCE. This is why I would never see myself in my remaining lifetime supporting the GOP. I refuse to have my face spit in, almost literally, then to be pat on the head and have my vote asked for. Who the hell wants to be insulted, called names, stereotyped all the damned time??

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=gK0KQW0ppeE

Brosephus™

February 6th, 2013
5:39 pm

A better question is why large parts of the African American community not embrace the Conservative principles of self reliance, American work ethic, less taxes, balanced budgets and religious freedom?

I guess I can add a few things to the list.

#1 African American basically means that a person was born an African and became a naturalized American. My DNA has been on this continent long enough that the African has long disappeared. If you need to differentiate me from you, then call me a Black American. Charlize Theron is an African American, and her melanin levels are nowhere near mine.

#2 Recognize that Black Americans share many “conservative” values. When Conservatives decide to actually embrace those values themselves and quit trying to micromanage everybody else, they may actually get some support from Black Americans.

#3 Quit catering to the far-Right wing of the party. The reason the GOP won elections with Reagan is because they controlled the center and pushed the Dems left. The group that controls the center will usually get the moderate Black vote with ease. The march to party purity is a huge reason why minority support for the GOP is steadily decreasing.

#4 Actually learn your own history and understand it completely before attempting to educate others. Black Americans know that Lincoln “freed” the slaves. The first Blacks elected to Congress were Republicans. However, Conservative Republicans basically began running Blacks out of the party before Reconstruction ended.

#5 Understand that, even though Blacks share belief in Conservative values, life experiences have taught most to be more liberal in actions in that, Blacks will try to look out for others just as much as they try to look out for themselves. In layman’s terms, pulling yourself up by your bootstraps isn’t the message to deliver to a group that believes that it takes a village to raise a child.

DannyX

February 6th, 2013
5:39 pm

What is Priebus trying to do, get white Georgia Republicans to flee the party?

Look what happened in Georgia when blacks started to gain power with the Democrats, white Democrats fled the party and became Republicans.

td

February 6th, 2013
5:40 pm

DannyX

February 6th, 2013
5:33 pm

Right, its just about the freebies and entitlements! Keep saying that over and over and over again.

Never mind that the people Priebus is after are part of the large and growing black middle class that Republicans love to ignore and refuse to acknowledge their existence.

They’ll flock to your party!

I am afraid that African Americans will not come to the party no matter what.

Bush appointed more African Americans to high positions in his administration then any other President. Did not do a thing for more support.

Purdue and Deal have appointed almost half the Department commissioners to African Americans. What has that done in Georgia?

As long as these race baiters like Jesse, Al, Joseph and Ben keep calling any African American that is conservative a uncle tom then they are not going to come to the party.

Joe Hussein Mama

February 6th, 2013
5:41 pm

Just since I haven’t said it in a while, REINCE PRIEBUS – (VOWELS) = RNC PR BS.

Just sayin’. :D

Okay, seriously?

Make like William F. Buckley and have the stones to say ‘we were wrong about that’ and APOLOGIZE for your mistakes. Where the GOP has tried to marginalize minorities, women, gays & lesbians, non-christians and non-theists — OWN UP TO IT and APOLOGIZE.

I don’t care what the GOP does differently. If they can’t strap on a pair of nuts and say ‘gosh, we were wrong about that and we’re sorry how we treated you,’ then they’re not serious about winning votes from across the aisle. IMO it’s all window dressing if they’re not willing to go that far.

In other words, f**k the GOP until they can show some humility and contrition.

td

February 6th, 2013
5:42 pm

DannyX

February 6th, 2013
5:39 pm

What is Priebus trying to do, get white Georgia Republicans to flee the party?

Look what happened in Georgia when blacks started to gain power with the Democrats, white Democrats fled the party and became Republicans.

Then why did the African Americans not come to the Republican party to gain power?

Brosephus™

February 6th, 2013
5:43 pm

Black un-employment is around 13 or 14% in this country and still they vote for the party that pretty much takes them for granted. Whether you like it or not, blacks vote based upon the race of the candidate and nothing more. Mostly it is the entitlements though. That one is pretty simple.

I gotta believe you take pride in being so friggin’ wrong all the time.

If Blacks vote based on race, how do you account for the support for most every Democratic Presidential candidate since Eisenhower? Was Bill Clinton, Jimmy Carter, Walter Mondale, Al Gore, and others Black but lacking the necessary melainin density for it to show? Geez dude, that bigoted crap was so damned stupid, I feel ashamed for your descendants that haven’t been born yet and will not be born for the next 100 years.

If you actually knew anything, you would know that Black unemployment has always been twice the national average almost since they began tracking it. I guess you’re too dumb to use Google to actually learn something truthful.

getalife

February 6th, 2013
5:43 pm

Join the majority and get things done like health care and immigration.

kayaker 71

February 6th, 2013
5:44 pm

How can the GOP attract more black voters? Match the Democrats in the entitlement war. Why, they could just treat it like a poker game….. I’ll match your Aid to Dependent Children and raise you 6 EBT cards.
If you have to give away your very soul to gain re-election in most any political office, the Democrats are the experts. And they do it with such grace, such “compassion”, while not giving a tinkers damn about the recipients. If you took away all of the giveaways, blacks and latinos would drop the Democrats like a hot rock. It isn’t a matter of diversity, inclusion, fair play or any of those liberal catch words…… just the government check. That’s about they care about about and always have.

Joe Hussein Mama

February 6th, 2013
5:46 pm

K71 — “How can the GOP attract more black voters? Match the Democrats in the entitlement war. Why, they could just treat it like a poker game….. I’ll match your Aid to Dependent Children and raise you 6 EBT cards.”

Just keep thinking that way, Colonel.

That’s what’s going to keep the GOP losing for years and years to come.

Jay

February 6th, 2013
5:46 pm

Well, let’s see:

“The answer? Because the democrats are willing to just keep on handing out the entitlements at the expense of the taxpayers and to the detriment of nation.”

“A better question is why large parts of the African American community not embrace the Conservative principles of self reliance, American work ethic, less taxes, balanced budgets and religious freedom? ”

“Their racist attitudes and constant blaming white people for their community issues has been a major deterrent to racial understanding and equal opportunity in this state and around the country!”

If I may, perhaps the problem is that a good part of the GOP base believes that black Americans are lazy moochers who are addicted to entitlements and too dumb to think for themselves, and that GOP politicians have to pander in some way to that sentiment in order to get elected, and that people outside the party actually notice that sentiment.

You think that might be it?

I also want to point out td’s frustration and confusion about Asians voting for Democrats, because it might give the game away a little bit. (An astounding 73 percent of Asians voted for Obama in 2012, an 11 percent increase over 2008).

Here we have an ethnic group that by stereotype is none of the things that black Americans are by GOP stereotype, yet it STILL votes overwhelmingly Democratic. Hmmmm.

Maybe, just maybe, minorities aren’t attracted to the Democratic Party because of all of the “free stuff” it offers, as Romney so crudely put it. Maybe, just maybe, they’re repelled by the crude stereotypes of non-white Americans that seem to drive the GOP base. The comment from “midtown” regarding gay Americans would bolster that explanation as well.

It’s a thought.

Stevie Ray..Clowns to the left and Jokers to the right..here I am...

February 6th, 2013
5:46 pm

Joe Hussein Mama

February 6th, 2013
5:41 pm

Good luck with that….of course I’m sure it has happened but I can’t recall last time I heard a politician apologize for anything..

Don’t mind saying I’m a fan of Buckley’s. He wrote a several terrific novels..Tuckers Last Stand was a great read.

DannyX

February 6th, 2013
5:46 pm

“Whether you like it or not, blacks vote based upon the race of the candidate and nothing more.”

How is the voting record of whites in Georgia? How many non white governors have we had? US Senators? How many non whites have been elected to office in Gwinnett county? Gwinnett has a population that is barely 50% white, last time I checked they only had one non-white elected to local, state or federal office. ONE!

White people in Georgia giving lectures about black people only voting for blacks is hysterical!

Soothsayer

February 6th, 2013
5:49 pm

The problem with Black folk as I see is they don’t want to take those cushy, high-paying jobs that White folk refuse to do. No, rather than take cushy, high-paying jobs that White folk turn down, they’d rather be on welfare. There it is in a nutshell.

Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes

February 6th, 2013
5:49 pm

Can you provide me with some GOP acts of racism that support your commentary?

Don’t know if it qualifies for “racism’, but I would say that it is about time to retire the story of the welfare queens standing in line at the store buying __________ with foods stamps.

And by “retire”, I mean for the leadership to be proactive about any advancement of that meme. Maybe they could use Fox News to put a damper on that.

A story first advance by St. Ronnie-of-the-Raygun.

Krystal'sBalls

February 6th, 2013
5:49 pm

..”Understand that, even though Blacks share belief in Conservative values, life experiences have taught most to be more liberal in actions in that,”

And this is EXACTLY why a man can’t figure out why his “Asian” wife has the views that she does. Bottom line, PEOPLE TEND TO NOT FORGOT WHERE THEY COME FROM. Unfortunately, and it is sad to say this but too many Whites in America just cannot wrap their minds around this concept and is where there is such a disconnect. When you view things through a specific prism it’s tough to see clearly if you will. It doesn’t matter how “successful” I become, my upbringing naturally prevents me from taking a overly selfish and hostile stance against others who struggle, especially since I know what the life is like. Again, when you have had the privilege of not having to live that life you just cannot relate on a genuine level.

Heaven help that Asian wife if she is in fact real and in a genuine relationship based on love. I personally find it hard to believe with the individual’s regular tone out here.

getalife

February 6th, 2013
5:49 pm

Stay the course with that moocher argument and keep insulting them.

The majority wants the house.

Stevie Ray..Clowns to the left and Jokers to the right..here I am...

February 6th, 2013
5:51 pm

Jay

February 6th, 2013
5:46 pm

Agreed…however, it seems to me that there is some truth in both areas…sure many in the GOP have a distorted view on the number of moochers/frauds relative to those who need help. It is true that the DEM party has built a platform on entitlement spending…

My big question is have these entitlements really helped many folks get out of bad situations or are they a material source of flattening hopes and expectations?

Joe Hussein Mama

February 6th, 2013
5:53 pm

S. Ray — “Good luck with that….of course I’m sure it has happened but I can’t recall last time I heard a politician apologize for anything.”

Well, maybe if it comes down to a choice between apologizing and getting to *stay* a politician and not apologizing and having to go back to Ohiowa, Michitucky or Calibama and get a day job, then perhaps some of them will do it.

“Don’t mind saying I’m a fan of Buckley’s. He wrote a several terrific novels..Tuckers Last Stand was a great read.”

Buckley was incredibly intelligent, but IMO his greatest strengths were that he knew when to say ‘I was wrong about that’ and that he knew when to cut loose crazoids like the John Birchers. He was not afraid to make course corrections (if you will) in order to keep moving forward. It’s a shame that so many putative conservatives just started ignoring him in his final years; IMO he had a lot to say that they could have benefited from.

Brosephus™

February 6th, 2013
5:53 pm

I get the impression that gerrymandering is a practice exclusive to the GOP? Do the DEMs when in control not try to gain advantage in similar fashion?

Well, gee Wally, I get the impression that you don’t understand the question that Jay asked. I don’t give a flying sh*t about the Democratic Party. Jay asked what the GOP could do to attract minority voters, hence my statement. What does “Demmy did it” have to do with the GOP attracting my vote?

Stevie Ray..Clowns to the left and Jokers to the right..here I am...

February 6th, 2013
5:54 pm

Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes

February 6th, 2013
5:49 pm

Can’t disagree with that and to be sure, the GOP are the source for much amusement by such stuff, not to mention the womans bodily ability to keep her eggs in check when raped.

I do feel strongly that in many ways, entitlements over time have done more harm than good…

Thomas Heyward Jr

February 6th, 2013
5:54 pm

In reality , only geezers, politicians, the media, and violent extremists care about the Demo/Repug party.

One cool idea that the Libertarian party could do in Georgia is this—————-
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Vermont State Rep. Fred Maslack has read the Second Amendment to the U.S. Constitution, as well as Vermont’s own Constitution very carefully, and … Maslack recently proposed a bill to register “non-gun-owners” and require them to pay a $500 fee to the state.

Thus Vermont would become the first state to require a permit for the luxury of going about unarmed and assess a fee of $500 for the privilege of not owning a gun. Maslack read the “militia” phrase of the Second Amendment as not only the right of the individual citizen to bear arms, but as ‘a clear mandate to do so’ He believes that universal gun ownership was advocated by the Framers of the Constitution as an antidote to a “monopoly of force” by the government as well as criminals.
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It’s about time that gun-owners be properly Thanked.
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If it wasn’t for us……..you would have a silly-costumed Federale thug in every household and every street corner.

Jay

February 6th, 2013
5:55 pm

Whether it’s a church, a civic club, a restaurant, a neighborhood or a political party, people will go where they feel they are accepted and comfortable.

It’s not any more complex than that. And reading some of the comments here, if minorities don’t feel accepted in the GOP, there’s a reason.

td

February 6th, 2013
5:56 pm

DannyX

February 6th, 2013
5:46 pm

“Whether you like it or not, blacks vote based upon the race of the candidate and nothing more.”

How is the voting record of whites in Georgia? How many non white governors have we had? US Senators? How many non whites have been elected to office in Gwinnett county? Gwinnett has a population that is barely 50% white, last time I checked they only had one non-white elected to local, state or federal office. ONE!

White people in Georgia giving lectures about black people only voting for blacks is hysterical!

The black community has the majority votes in the Democratic party in Georgia. How many black people have they run in these races? 1 that I can remember and then Thurmond did not even have any money to run on.

BTW: How long did Thurmond get re elected to the state wide post of Labor Commissioner or Thurbert Baker get re elected as AG (even after the state went Republican)? How many white votes did they have to get to retain these positions?

indigo

February 6th, 2013
5:57 pm

Krystal’Balls – “tend to not forget where they come from”

Where do you come from?

Brosephus™

February 6th, 2013
5:59 pm

Krystal’sBalls: Unfortunately, and it is sad to say this but too many Whites in America just cannot wrap their minds around this concept and is where there is such a disconnect. When you view things through a specific prism it’s tough to see clearly if you will. It doesn’t matter how “successful” I become, my upbringing naturally prevents me from taking a overly selfish and hostile stance against others who struggle, especially since I know what the life is like.

AMEN!!!!!!!

Joe Hussein Mama

February 6th, 2013
5:59 pm

T. Heyward — “He believes that universal gun ownership was advocated by the Framers of the Constitution as an antidote to a “monopoly of force” by the government as well as criminals.”

Guess he missed the parts in the Constitution about ‘no standing armies’ and that the Congress was to have authority over the ‘militia.’
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‘It’s about time that gun-owners be properly Thanked.’

If you’re not out drilling with your ‘militia’ unit, then you’re not fulfilling your Constitutional obligation as a citizen. That’ll be $500, please.

josef

February 6th, 2013
6:00 pm

The GOP has to get beyond that Southern strategy thing, imeoiauo, and, really, this should not be a real problem if they will get it straight from the get-go that if nothing else, the American Black is preeminently Southern, sharing much in common in values with the White co-tribals. Both clans of said tribe are deeply religious, traditionally very family oriented and accustomed to a feeling of exclusion from the mainstream in many, many areas.
Basically, I would say, shut up and listen. Go out into the hinterlands and talk to the real people. Look for the commonalities. Center the efforts there.
Address the issues head-on. Forget trying to “convert” them, but do a bit of the mea culpa, not as some public statement for PR value, but as a true introspection. Then come up with a platform that not just includes, but focuses on those concerns.
Now, here we are, once again, trapping ourselves in a Black-White dichotomy. There’s a lot there in between. The question is why there has been more success among the Subcontinent Indians and the East Asians? What do they have to say to both Black and White? What are the Southern American Indians saying? Why?

In other words, once the move is made toward Black for the mere fact of votes, both should step back then and listen to Brown, Yellow and Red.

getalife

February 6th, 2013
6:02 pm

The gop has 999 problems and I don’t care.

Life is janky for the gop.

Jay

February 6th, 2013
6:02 pm

Josef, that is essentially what Kevin Williams advised in the op-ed I linked to above.

Stevie Ray..Clowns to the left and Jokers to the right..here I am...

February 6th, 2013
6:03 pm

Brosephus™

February 6th, 2013
5:53 pm

Well good afternoon genius! I think it is a no-brainer for DEMs/current supporters to strongly want the GOP to stop gerrymandering. Explain to me in your infinite wisdom exactly how that would result in getting more voters to swing to GOP?

Wow Beaver, those silly old GOP ceased and desisted from gerrymandering. Let’s vote for them now..

Krystal'sBalls

February 6th, 2013
6:04 pm

You see… it’s those types LIKE Clarence Thomas, Herman Cain and similar types who fall right into that historically oh too familiar profile that was on the slavery plantation that garner the reactions that they get from people who look like them. Who has a problem with self-sufficiency and determination and all that garbage? NO one! But don’t get a platform and then use it to elevate yourself and appear as not one of the unwashed masses especially when the path was paved for you, yet you want to blow out the bridge once you cross and marginalize others for the entertainment of those that bestowed power unto you. THAT is who Cain and Thomas is, simple and plain. Well smell that $*** a mile away.

Krystal'sBalls

February 6th, 2013
6:07 pm

@indigo
February 6th, 2013
5:57 pm

Any guesses? And what piques your curiosity? I would be more than happy to share, just like to know the angle.

josef

February 6th, 2013
6:09 pm

BIG DADDY

I’ll go and read that…I was just going on “off the cuff…” Thanks…

Logical Dude

February 6th, 2013
6:09 pm

I’m amazed at the 1-5 (a – e?) that I posted three different times on this forum actually hit so close. I’m usually clueless about SOMETHING or other. (and that Kevin William’s article has similar points)

But yes, the posts here that basically “blame THEM for not seeing how good we are” is missing the point entirely.

Come on GOP folks. REALLY. There is a reason Mr. Priebus is coming to town, and it’s to get educated. Unfortunately, much of the GOP base does not want to be educated. They enjoy the little bubble. … .

oops. . . I was about to make a major blunder, grouping so many into a stereotype.

:)
(See what I did there?)

DannyX

February 6th, 2013
6:09 pm

“BTW: How long did Thurmond get re elected to the state wide post of Labor Commissioner or Thurbert Baker get re elected as AG (even after the state went Republican)?”

That is your comeback td? One black Democrat AG and one black Democrat Labor Commissioner to statewide office in 200+ years??? You totally avoided my point. Whites in Georgia don’t have a very good track record voting for non whites do they, td?

Yet every time a subject like this comes up people start screaming about blacks only voting for blacks, as Brocephus pointed out it is not the case at all. Far from it.

Why doesn’t Gwinnett County have minority representation?? Half their population is minority.

Brosephus™

February 6th, 2013
6:11 pm

I think it is a no-brainer for DEMs/current supporters to strongly want the GOP to stop gerrymandering.

Well then, why are you asking me? What part of I don’t give a flying sh*t about the Democratic Party” do you not understand?

Explain to me in your infinite wisdom exactly how that would result in getting more voters to swing to GOP?

I already did. In your infintely small reading comprehension, you failed to grasp what I said. Eliminating gerrymandering will force the GOP to become more inclusive because their candidates will no longer simply have to deal with one group. When you set yourself up so that 80% of your voters are of one group, you can completely ignore the other 20% and still get re-elected with ease.

As the GOP currently controls about 30 states, it doesn’t matter what in the hell the Democrats do. The GOP could essentially push the Democratic Party out of the center without staging a national battle if they actually used their state control for good.

THAT’S what I’m trying to get across. Do you understand it now?

Stevie Ray..Clowns to the left and Jokers to the right..here I am...

February 6th, 2013
6:13 pm

Krystal’sBalls

February 6th, 2013
6:04 pm

Yeah it sure doesn’t pay to be black and republican eh? On top of all the BS they have to deal with in the party, they get to deal all those folks from their own tribe that want to Uncle Tom them…

Has there ever been a black GOPer who wasn’t lambasted as an Uncle Tom? Or in the case of Condaleza Rice..an Aunt Tom or whatever?

It seems to me when a black goes GOP, they become disowned by most other blacks…pretty steep price to pay eh?

Brosephus™

February 6th, 2013
6:13 pm

Logical Dude

You it it close because you’re actually using common sense logic. You’ll be portrayed as some far-left individual though because you didn’t use the right tone and inflammatory language that seems to get some conservatives to react like Palov’s dog.

Jay

February 6th, 2013
6:14 pm

People like Todd Kincannon, former executive director of the South Carolina Republican Party, don’t help the cause either ….

http://www.mediaite.com/online/former-sc-gop-exec-director-fires-off-racially-charged-tweets-during-the-super-bowl/

Thomas Heyward Jr

February 6th, 2013
6:14 pm

Josef—————and with all due respect—————-who is this we?

“Now, here we are, once again, trapping ourselves in a Black-White dichotomy”
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Like I mentioned earlier, it would seem only geezers, the MSM, and progressive violent extremeists are doing this.
The youth…..of all colors……… have moved on.
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And that’s a good thing.
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There’s a sea-change happening, and as usual , the educated “elite’ are the last to see.

Brosephus™

February 6th, 2013
6:16 pm

Jay

He didn’t help at all…

DannyX

February 6th, 2013
6:16 pm

td, another question for you, and pogo too. The blogs go crazy when Atlanta or DeKalb appoint blacks to county/city positions, ignoring the fact that have appointed white people also.

How many non-whites has Gov Deal appointed?

maximum

February 6th, 2013
6:16 pm

Jay 5:46pm
Well stated, sir. You are spot on.

Stevie Ray..Clowns to the left and Jokers to the right..here I am...

February 6th, 2013
6:18 pm

Brosephus™

February 6th, 2013
6:11 pm

I can always tell when you know you are blogging on very thin ice..you deflect with, in this case, suggesting my reading comprehension is below par. Anyhow..your pollyanish view that all the GOP needs to do is to maintain enough minority voters in their districts that they will be pressured to cater in ways that will in many instances, be at odds with where the big money comes from….that will get more minorities to vote GOP..

That’s not exactly what I’d call practical….

Cherokee

February 6th, 2013
6:19 pm

“As long as these race baiters like Jesse, Al, Joseph and Ben keep calling any African American that is conservative a uncle tom then they are not going to come to the party.”

td – as evidenced by the overtly racist comments here – blacks only vote for Dems for the free stuff, the entitlements, race – your problem is much closer to home.

I sure as heck wouldn’t vote for a party whose adherents insult me…

Jay

February 6th, 2013
6:20 pm

I’m in no way implying that most Republicans are like Kincannon, but the party too often tolerates those of his ilk. If Kincannon publicly tweets such sentiments, you can pretty much guess what his private conversation is like, yet he was allowed to rise to a very high position in party ranks.

Krystal'sBalls

February 6th, 2013
6:23 pm

Yeah @Stevie

Steep price, but they are WILLING to pay it, because they only give a damn about their own advancement and no one else’s. What part of my explanation did you not understand?

Yeah… Colin Powell immediately comes to mind. I’m sure he’s a RINO in your book though. Truth be told, Condoleeza Rice is well respected by the Black community. We’re just pissed that she so willingly pushed that B-S agenda of Bush during his administration, though she was just “doing her job”. No “Aunt Jemima” label for her though.

**sssk, ssk, sssK**

Have some Windex to clean your prism.

maximum

February 6th, 2013
6:23 pm

Wow, is public behavior like this the reason why Kincannon is the “former” executive director?

Joe Hussein Mama

February 6th, 2013
6:24 pm

Jay, might as well put some new sheets on. Them what might benefit from the suggestions ain’t paying a lick of attention to ‘em.

I’m out. Y’all have a good evening, even the folks I don’t ever agree with.

josef

February 6th, 2013
6:25 pm

JAY

I read it. I think he is making a mistake when he focuses too much on the urban districts. A real Southern strategy could work better in that a Black or Hispanic GOP candidate running in a predominantly rural district in much of the South would have a pretty solid chance. We like to pooh-pooh the likes of Herman Cain, and G-d forbid, but he did show that the White clan of the Southern tribe will vote for a member of the Black clan…but J. C, Watts proved that it can be done and an intelligent, rational individual be elected.

I can easily see a Black Republican winning in Mississippi’s 1st, 3rd or 4th Districts…

Brosephus™

February 6th, 2013
6:27 pm

Stevie Ray

What you “think” I’m doing is not always the case. You keep your focus on money as you give the appearance that candidates can simply spend themselves into office without actually having people cast votes for them.

Let the grownups debate this. Obviously, you have no intent to actually address the question that Jay asked. I have honestly tried to answer it, but I refuse to get into a “Demmy did it” pissing contest with you.

What you deem as pollyanish is far from it. When you understand the thoughts of Blacks and other minorities, then come talk to me. As to my comment on your reading comprehension, it was not a deflection by any means. It was an observation. If I were deflecting, I would not have gone into detail to explain myself to you.

Take off your partisaned blinders and read what’s in front of you dude. Trying to insinuate that I’m a Dem/supporter isn’t going to win you any points with me, and you should already know that. You know that I’m straight up, and if you want to know something, you only have to ask. I don’t cater too well to that underhanded insinuation stuff.