GOP’s ire, once directed at Obama, now turns inward
There’s a lot of unhappiness out there.
For example, the Wall Street types who financed the GOP’s 2012 campaign, donating hundreds of millions of dollars to the party as well as to the SuperPACs run by Karl Rove and others, are not a happy lot.
They are unhappy because they got little or nothing for their investment; they are unhappy with the GOP’s deep reluctance to come to the aid of Hurricane Sandy victims in the Northeast; and as the Manhattan elite, they are unhappy about financing a party that picks on their gay friends and their Muslim friends and doesn’t seem all that friendly to their black friends either.
Rove and his buddies in the GOP political establishment are also very, very unhappy. They are unhappy because their deep-pocket donors are unhappy. They’re unhappy because the deeply conservative base that they created and nurtured along the way to a permanent Republican majority has now slipped their leash and now acts as if they, not the Roves of the world, ought to run the party and set its goals and pick its candidates.
Such impertinence is not appreciated.
To regain control, Rove and his allies have created a new front group, the Conservative Victory Fund, to siphon still more money from donors. This time, the money will be used to finance a war with the great unwashed within their own party and promote more electable (read: moderate and malleable) candidates. In effect, they seek to put their creature back on its leash, where it can be more useful to them.
“There is a broad concern about having blown a significant number of races because the wrong candidates were selected,” as Steven J. Law, president of Rove’s American Crossroads, told the New York Times.
And of course, those who identify as champions of the GOP grassroots aren’t happy either. They aren’t in the mood to listen to condescending lectures from fancy-dan consultants who spent hundreds of millions of other people’s money and got nothing for it, and now want to blame their failure on conservatives for being too conservative.
Matt Hoskins, executive director of the Senate Conservatives Fund, founded by former Sen. Jim DeMint, put it bluntly:
“The Conservative Defeat Project is yet another example of the Republican establishment’s hostility toward its conservative base. Rather than listening to the grassroots and working to advance their principles, the establishment has chosen to declare war on the party’s most loyal supporters. If they keep this up, the party will remain in the wilderness for decades to come.”
And as our friends over at RedState put it:
“American Crossroads is creating a new Super PAC to crush conservatives, destroy the tea party, and put a bunch of squishes in Republican leadership positions. …I dare say any candidate who gets this group’s support should be targeted for destruction by the conservative movement.”
Live by the sword, die by the sword, I suppose.
– Jay Bookman
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Keep Up the Good Fight!
February 5th, 2013
9:13 am
The wheels are coming off…. but not fast enough
Keep Up the Good Fight!
February 5th, 2013
9:16 am
Gerrymandering could be one of the long term problems for the GOP. They created their “base” and now they have to fight it in those districts.
Christian Conservative
February 5th, 2013
9:16 am
Interesting article on the heals of the horrible obama economic news we received last week… Still no word on those horrendous numbers jay? Unemployment rate ticking up and millions more dropping out of the work force to live of tax payer money????
Keep Up the Good Fight!
February 5th, 2013
9:19 am
Hopefully Steve King will win for the republican Iowa senate seat so he can be defeated by Braley.
USinUK - former Girl Scout
February 5th, 2013
9:20 am
“To regain control, Rove and his allies have created a new front group, the Conservative Victory Fund, to siphon still more money from donors. This time, the money will be used to finance a war with the great unwashed within their own party and promote more electable (read: moderate and malleable) candidates. In effect, they seek to put their creature back on its leash, where it can be more useful to them.”
first casualty was St. Sarah of the Tundra … poor Wasilla hillbilly lost her gig at FOX – do you think she’s going through center-of-the-universe withdrawal?
Paul
February 5th, 2013
9:21 am
Most family brawls conducted in public are pretty uncomfortable to be around. With this one, though, I predict there’ll be lots of popcorn consumed.
““There is a broad concern about having blown a significant number of races because the wrong candidates were selected,”
Gotta admire the plain-spoken honesty.
” Rather than listening to the grassroots and working to advance their principles, the establishment has chosen to declare war on the party’s most loyal supporters.”
If the loyal supporters keep insisting on leading everyone towards another episode of mass suicide, well, yeah.
Just hope they spend about half their budget here in Texas. Cruz go elected to the Senate and Cornyn’s following him on every nutty ‘no’ vote he casts.
Oh, and Redstate’s statement was misquoted, sorry to say. Should be:
““American Crossroads is creating a new Super PAC to crush extremist conservative whackos whose mission is to deny the White House to conservatives during their lifetimes.”
” and put a bunch of squishes in Republican leadership positions”
Oooohhh, new word for Towncrier and Christian Conservative!
Granny Godzilla
February 5th, 2013
9:23 am
and FYI “Foxbotz”….after taking Mr. Rove off the air after his strange peformance on election night
they just extended his contract through 2016.
SO..Fox has the URGE to SURGE the PURGE of Tea Party candidates.
Where they gonna’ get their news now?
Ronald Reagan Parkway
February 5th, 2013
9:23 am
Without minority support/participation, the GOP is headed down the road to no where.
DannyX
February 5th, 2013
9:24 am
“Interesting article on the heals of the horrible obama economic news we received last week”
Christian Conservative, I have asked you to analyze the “horrible obama economic news” 5 different times but you keep ignoring me. Why?
pick your poison.......
February 5th, 2013
9:24 am
Hillary 2016 or Biden 2016
Corbin Sharpe. I think, therefore I am...I think.
February 5th, 2013
9:25 am
USinUK,
“first casualty was St. Sarah of the Tundra …”
I hear that she is still sitting on a rather large amount of PAC money. She could do some damage to Rove and his boys, if he is not careful. This is pay-for- view stuff. Gotta love it.
комисса́р (Occupation)
February 5th, 2013
9:26 am
“as the Manhattan elite, they are unhappy about financing a party that picks on their gay friends and their Muslim friends and doesn’t seem all that friendly to their black friends either.”
The capitalist power elite has needed the rubes to help them maintain their political front and coalition. But it’s always been a delicate balance. It was in the 50s with a Jim Crow south, and it is again today.
Uncomfortable yet inevitable bedfellows indeed.
Paul
February 5th, 2013
9:26 am
“but you keep ignoring me. Why?”
Because that’s where the bumper sticker ended, DannyX -
Granny Godzilla
February 5th, 2013
9:26 am
Actually I claim “squishes”…
have I not been pointing out for the last year that the GOP has gone squishy?
Aquagirl
February 5th, 2013
9:27 am
Republicans put the “kooks welcome!” sign out and don’t understand why the kooks won’t just leave. This is gonna get ugly.
Paul
February 5th, 2013
9:27 am
Granny
Been listening to Rhymin’ Simon this morning?
Corbin Sharpe. I think, therefore I am...I think.
February 5th, 2013
9:27 am
Pick…
I also hear that Janet Napolitano said she would run if Hillary wouldn’t…
Thomas Heyward Jr
February 5th, 2013
9:28 am
Decent Americans grow tired of Empire building,cronyism, and the violent police state while……….grandma is eating catfood.
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Obama-Bots should take note.
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pick your poison.......
February 5th, 2013
9:29 am
Corbin Sharpe, that could be another good choice!
Redneck Convert (R--and proud of it)
February 5th, 2013
9:29 am
Well, they need to pick canadates that know how to keep their mouth shut, dang it. It’s OK to beleive what they beleive. It’s not OK to say it out loud to women, Those People, the Mexicans, etc. Wait till you get in office to spout off about how women that don’t want to get raped can’t get in a family way from it, etc.
That’s my opinion and it’s very true. Mum’s the word. Romney finally got the hang of it. At the end he sounded like the biggest librul in the world. But by that time he’d said so many things nobody beleived him
Have a good Tuesday everybody.
Paul
February 5th, 2013
9:30 am
Granny Godzilla
“Actually I claim “squishes”…”
You infiltrated the Tea Party PR machine as a saboteur?
Good job!
Seriously, though… does anyone think, at least in the short term, the realistic Republicans can marginalize the demon child of their own creation?
Moderate Line
February 5th, 2013
9:30 am
Liberalism – Torture bad. Killing American citizens without due process good with drones ok.
http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/281069-doj-white-paper-on-killer-drones-and-us-citizens-abroad
pick your poison.......
February 5th, 2013
9:31 am
Kentucky for Ashley Judd in 2014
Corbin Sharpe. I think, therefore I am...I think.
February 5th, 2013
9:31 am
Thomas Heyward Jr
February 5th, 2013
9:28 am
Joe Hussein Mama
February 5th, 2013
9:32 am
Conservative Person: ” If they keep this up, the party will remain in the wilderness for decades to come.”
I’m not seeing a problem there.
Joe Hussein Mama
February 5th, 2013
9:34 am
C. Sharpe — “This is pay-for- view stuff. Gotta love it.”
Indeed. This is a fine example of “let’s you and him fight.”
USinUK - former Girl Scout
February 5th, 2013
9:34 am
“She could do some damage to Rove and his boys, if he is not careful. ”
Sarah hurt Rove???
as the movie line goes, he’s had craps bigger than her
stands for decibels
February 5th, 2013
9:34 am
“die by the sword…”
Given that Ron Paul SEAL tweet, now you’re just being mean, Jay.
Joe Hussein Mama
February 5th, 2013
9:36 am
Paul — “Seriously, though… does anyone think, at least in the short term, the realistic Republicans can marginalize the demon child of their own creation?”
Hell to the naw.
They raised it, let them pay for all the psychoanalysis and bail that demonspawn’s going to need.
Aquagirl
February 5th, 2013
9:36 am
Killing American citizens without due process good with drones ok.
The faux outrage is bringing tears to my eyes. Really.
Mr. Snarky
February 5th, 2013
9:36 am
This should be fun to watch…conservatives eating their young.
Paul
February 5th, 2013
9:37 am
Moderate Line
The link you cited states “In the document, the Justice Department concludes that a lethal strike against a senior operational leader of al Qaeda — or an affiliated terrorist group — can occur if a three-part test is met: that a high-level American intelligence official has determined the individual poses an imminent threat, that capture is infeasible, and that the strike is conducted according to the laws of war governing use of force” (and that only scratches the surface on the process and how it was developed” yet you assert it ‘lacks due process.”
Why?
I’ve got to go out for a bit but look forward to the information.
Corbin Sharpe. I think, therefore I am...I think.
February 5th, 2013
9:37 am
Moderate Line
February 5th, 2013
9:30 am
I, for one, think that drones are the best thing going. They put the terror into the terrorists.
They are always looking up into the sky and soiling their pants. Good! And before you start on innocent deaths, let me ask you how many innocent lives are lost to suicide bombers? Car bombs? IED’s? If you are going to have a war on terror, then you have to do the w. a. r. period. The drone program saves American lives and that is quite fine with me.
illyushin
February 5th, 2013
9:37 am
Live by being owned by Big Business, die by Big Business tossing you under the bus.
It could not happen to a more deserving Party.
Dirty Dawg
February 5th, 2013
9:39 am
Don’t worry Jay, they’ll always have room for Obama-bashing…it’s the only thing that makes em feel good.
stands for decibels
February 5th, 2013
9:39 am
From our Bros, downstairs, regarding Mrs. Bros:
She doesn’t read the blog, and the only time she’s even looked at it was when Jay put up the photo from DC that I took.
She’s definitely a keeper, then.
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(oh, and if you want a laugh, Kayaker actually posted the ancient fake-Hitler gun control quote down there. I don’t think anyone should tell him, though.)
illyushin
February 5th, 2013
9:39 am
UsinUk
St. Sarah of the Tundra is standing on her back porch contemplating her view of Russia.
With luck, maybe she will just move there and snuggle up to Putin.
Joe Hussein Mama
February 5th, 2013
9:39 am
Moderate Line — “Liberalism – Torture bad. Killing American citizens without due process good with drones ok.”
Moderate Line — Making Crap Up Since 9:30 AM
Paul
February 5th, 2013
9:40 am
Moderate Line
One other thought before I go – the guy in the bunker, whom the authorities determined posed an imminent threat to the little boy, whose capture they felt was infeasible, so the authorities struck according to current legal practices: was that guy an American citizen killed without due process?
out -
Keep Up the Good Fight!
February 5th, 2013
9:40 am
The “violent police state” claims are posted by the same clownish types who also want to put officers in every school, every church, every public place…. Any wonder why Rove wants to purge the nuts out
Sometimes you vote like a nut, sometimes you don’t…no wait, nuts always vote nuts.
kayaker 71
February 5th, 2013
9:40 am
So, we are toast, according to Bookman. Bozo only won by about 3 million votes, hardly a mandate. Reagan had a mandate at 49/1. The losing party always has a period of turmoil after a national election. The Republicans just didn’t give enough perks away. 75% of latinos and 94% of blacks voted for this clown and for what?….. just what that stalwart citizens said in Cleveland…… her “Obama phone”. What’s in it for me. They could care less about Bozo and Bozoette. Hell, Yosimite Sam could run and if the perks are right, he would be a shoo in.
Jay
February 5th, 2013
9:40 am
There was no horrible economic news last week, CC.
The Dow hit 14,000 for the first time since 2007. Contrary to your claim, the civilian labor-force participation rate was unchanged. Some 157,000 jobs were created in January, and according to the Bureau of Labor Statistics, “The change in total nonfarm payroll employment for November was revised from +161,000 to +247,000, and the change for December was revised from +155,000 to +196,000.” That’s an additional 127,000 jobs created in those two months.
Those revisions were encouraging, because it means that job creation is occurring faster than official numbers can track, a sign of considerable job growth. It means that the initial January numbers will probably turn out to be too low as well.
In fact, for all of 2012, monthly average job creation numbers were updated from 142,000 a month to 181,000 a month. That’s right: During all those months that conservative conspiracy theorists were insisting that the Obama administration was cooking the job numbers to help his re-election effort, the BLS was actually UNDERestimating job growth by more than 25 percent a month. It undercounted new job creation by a total of 647,000.
Horrible news? I guess that would depend on your perspective.
And yes, I am well aware of the 4th quarter GDP numbers. I am also fully aware, as you should be, that most economists dismiss that as a one-time thing, generated by a confluence of one-time events. Things aren’t as good as they should be or as we want them to be, but they are slowly getting better and better as we dig out of this massive hole.
Whatever
February 5th, 2013
9:43 am
This would be a much smaller issue for all of us if the there was less central (federal) control to fight over and more decisions where made on a state level. People would naturally drift to the states that were leaning the way they liked.
It wouldn’t solve all of our problems but it would help. I don’t want Ga to be like Ca. or Illinois. I’m sure they don’t want to be like Ga. but right now we are trying to make every place be a cookie cutter.
stands for decibels
February 5th, 2013
9:45 am
more off-topicalogical stuff…
I also hear that Janet Napolitano said she would run if Hillary wouldn’t…
Janet probably ought to toss her hat in the ring regardless of Hillary’s plans.
Seriously, wouldn’t it be nice if there were a major Democratic primary contest between two well-qualified candidates, one a former Senator, the other a former Governor, and their gender was of no interest to the handicappers whatsoever?
I’d posit that, perhaps, our nation had finally growed up, if that were to happen.
Moderate Line
February 5th, 2013
9:45 am
For example, the Wall Street types who financed the GOP’s 2012 campaign, donating hundreds of millions of dollars to the party as well as to the SuperPACs run by Karl Rove and others, are not a happy lot.
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The statement is false. Securities and Investment ranks is the second largest contributor to Republicans. Also note that it was 10th for Dems. The total for Rep was $24 million and for Dems was 6 million.
http://www.opensecrets.org/pres12/indus_topall.php?cycle=2012
Granny Godzilla
February 5th, 2013
9:46 am
Paul
Spent some time with Toddler G and the works of Ted Giesel.
I do not like green eggs or Karl Rove.
In a box or on the Fox.
ken
February 5th, 2013
9:47 am
My paycheck was a tank and a half short. And more taxes to come. I see that 60 grand a year is the new rich.
stands for decibels
February 5th, 2013
9:47 am
The faux outrage is bringing tears to my eyes. Really.
“Why isn’t Obama behaving in the manner that I imagine that liberals imagine they expected him to behave?”
that’s what the “outrage” in this case appears to be about.
(I expected Obama to behave like the centrist Democrat he ran as, and appears to be.)
kayaker 71
February 5th, 2013
9:47 am
Bookman, 9:40,
How many dropped out of the work force while all those jobs were “created”? Only counting those who have not quit looking or those on chronic unemployment is skewing the numbers. And a point one percent growth? That’s because the planets didn’t line up or some other silly excuse. Mexico has about 4% at present and China has about 10. Now that’s growth. We were supposed to be at about 5% after two years of Bozo’s first term. Comeer, Ethyl. Gimmie that lipstick. Now if I could just get this pig to hold still.
Moderate Line
February 5th, 2013
9:47 am
Jay
February 5th, 2013
9:40 am
There was no horrible economic news last week, CC.
+++++
The preliminary numbers say the economy contracted. Is that good news?
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424127887324156204578273611039517142.html
комисса́р (Occupation)
February 5th, 2013
9:49 am
“Things aren’t as good as they should be or as we want them to be, but they are slowly getting better and better as we dig out of this massive hole”
I wouldn’t be so sure. World capitalism is nowhere near ‘digging out’ of its greatest crisis since the 1930s. Meanwhile, fascism is on the march in southern Europe.
And as Europe goes, so goes….
Granny Godzilla
February 5th, 2013
9:50 am
Moderate Line
Is the other news in the report “good news”?
stands for decibels
February 5th, 2013
9:51 am
We were supposed to be at about 5% after two years of Bozo’s first term.
Kayaker, did you get that factoid from the same place you got your fake Hitler quote?
Joe Hussein Mama
February 5th, 2013
9:52 am
Occupation, I do not think that Russian word means what you think it means.
It reads “Commissar,” does it not?
Dokumenti, Tovarisch!
комисса́р (Occupation)
February 5th, 2013
9:55 am
“I dare say any candidate who gets this group’s support should be targeted for destruction by the conservative movement.”
The day you hear liberals or Democrats use such a phrase will be the day you’ll know something truly fundamental has changed in our political system. You won’t ever hear it.
Aquagirl
February 5th, 2013
9:55 am
I expected Obama to behave like the centrist Democrat he ran as, and appears to be.
Me too, but I am absolutely delighted at his unexpected penchant for killing terrorists.
Finn McCool (The System isn't Broken; It's Fixed)
February 5th, 2013
9:56 am
permanent Republican majority
mwuahahahahahahahhahhahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
aha
aha
aha
mwuahahahahahahahahahahahahahah
Thomas Heyward Jr
February 5th, 2013
9:56 am
Keep Up the Good Fight!
February 5th, 2013
9:40 am
The “violent police state” claims are posted by the same clownish types who also want to put officers in every school, every church, every public place…. Any wonder why Rove wants to purge the nuts out
Sometimes you vote like a nut, sometimes you don’t…no wait, nuts always vote nuts.
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You lie.
straitroad
February 5th, 2013
9:56 am
It seems at some point, you’ll have get your head out of the sand and come up for air. The economy is feeling the effects of obama’s policies and contracting, the administration is telling us that it is legal to execute Americans without due process, gas prices are spiking with no end in sight and you ignore all of this. Jay, you should get out of your comfort zone from time to time and deal with reality.
Finn McCool (The System isn't Broken; It's Fixed)
February 5th, 2013
9:58 am
Remember, Cons
We told you 10 years ago it would take us a while to dig out of the hole you and your politicians put us in. And that was BEFORE the 2007 financial meltdown.
stands for decibels
February 5th, 2013
9:58 am
The day you hear liberals or Democrats use such a phrase will be the day you’ll know something truly fundamental has changed in our political system. You won’t ever hear it.
I won’t go quite THAT far. I still love to refer to this now-defunct outfit as the “Democratic Losership Council”, and I’d have been fine with targeting their destruction any number of times, in the past.
Moderate Line
February 5th, 2013
9:58 am
Granny Godzilla
February 5th, 2013
9:50 am
Moderate Line
Is the other news in the report “good news”?
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Yes. What is your point? The question was what “horrible news.” I think a contraction is horrible news.
Bob Loblaw
February 5th, 2013
9:59 am
Redstate wants to “target for destruction”? I thought Erick was putting on a smiley face these days? WAIT! That’s right. He went to work for Fox. My bad.
Thomas Heyward Jr
February 5th, 2013
10:00 am
straitroad
February 5th, 2013
9:56 am
It seems at some point, you’ll have get your head out of the sand and come up for air. The economy is feeling the effects of obama’s policies and contracting, the administration is telling us that it is legal to execute Americans without due process, gas prices are spiking with no end in sight and you ignore all of this. Jay, you should get out of your comfort zone from time to time and deal with reality.
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He will.
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
February 5th, 2013
10:00 am
Geez !
Nothing about MARTA, Georgia transportation or charter schools this morning ???
TBS
February 5th, 2013
10:01 am
Thomas
Make sure you Alex Jones groupies keep him protected from Bloomberg’s hitmen
Finn McCool (The System isn't Broken; It's Fixed)
February 5th, 2013
10:01 am
It’s a good time to grab a bowl of popcorn and watch the Conservative implosion
Grasshopper
February 5th, 2013
10:02 am
Do those that are overjoyed at the prospect of a GOP implosion feel that a one-party system is good for the country?
If not, what form – ideals and guiding principles – do you think a second party replacement should take?
DannyX
February 5th, 2013
10:03 am
Yep, the economy is tanking. That’s why the Dow hit 14,000 last week after all the “bad news”.
Yet its the Republican party that is in total chaos right now! You poor things, I almost feel sorry for you. Republicans are the chicken with its head cut off party. Get a hold of yourselves man!
BENGHAZI!
TBone
February 5th, 2013
10:04 am
As opposed to the “progressives” who are always happy, happy, joy, joy. In our skeet shooter in chief’s first two years ‘progressives’ held majorities in both houses and the White House but didn’t get much done. Liberals are the most miserable lot known to man, get over yourself.
Joe Hussein Mama
February 5th, 2013
10:04 am
F. McCool — “It’s a good time to grab a bowl of popcorn and watch the Conservative implosion”
Indeed! They’re going back to their old criticisms, which didn’t work the first time. It’s a sure sign that they’re fresh out of thinky juice and that they need Rush or FNC to blast-fax ‘em some new talking points.
RB from Gwinnett
February 5th, 2013
10:04 am
Can somebody please tell us all how this gun sale background check business would have prevented any of the tragedies that prompted the discussion in the first place?
And if it won’t prevent these tragedies, why are we having the conversation?
Granny Godzilla
February 5th, 2013
10:04 am
Moderate line
You do? Well I’ll be!
Who’d have thought you’d listen to the right wing interpretation of the report and ignore what
most sensible would be able to see for themselves?
oh and actually your questions was:
“The preliminary numbers say the economy contracted. Is that good news?”
DannyX
February 5th, 2013
10:04 am
“Do those that are overjoyed at the prospect of a GOP implosion feel that a one-party system is good for the country?”
Grasshopper, did you vote for Roy Barnes?
curious
February 5th, 2013
10:05 am
“horrible Obama economic news” is the economy is growing. Some can acknowledge the fact.
Even the “contraction” doesn’t seem that bad. From the same WSJ article cited above.
“Research firm Capital Economics called the report “the best-looking contraction in U.S. GDP you’ll ever see.” Forecasters didn’t see the decline as a harbinger of recession”
Foghorn Leghorn
February 5th, 2013
10:05 am
Republicans are the chicken with its head cut off party.
I say, I say, only TAX CUTS can save us now, son!
Granny Godzilla
February 5th, 2013
10:06 am
TBONE
“In our skeet shooter in chief’s first two years ‘progressives’ held majorities in both houses and the White House but didn’t get much done”
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TBONE….Ah nope.
for the elebenty millionth time.
Doggone/GA
February 5th, 2013
10:06 am
“Do those that are overjoyed at the prospect of a GOP implosion feel that a one-party system is good for the country?”
A GOP “implosion” does not mean the party will go away. Maybe, just maybe, it will change names…but the same people will still be out there…as an opposition party, if nothing else. So sorry, your dream of a “one-party system” is not going to come true.
Moderate Line
February 5th, 2013
10:09 am
Jay
February 5th, 2013
9:40 am
And yes, I am well aware of the 4th quarter GDP numbers. I am also fully aware, as you should be, that most economists dismiss that as a one-time thing, generated by a confluence of one-time events. Things aren’t as good as they should be or as we want them to be, but they are slowly getting better and better as we dig out of this massive hole.
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From the Economist:
Yet it would be unwise to dismiss the fourth-quarter weakness as pure anomaly. Economists did the same when Britain’s economy posted a surprise contraction at the end of 2010. Yet within a year Britain was back in recession and with another surprisingly large contraction last quarter, may be once again. While America is almost certainly not slipping back into recession, the ease with which special factors tipped it into negative territory is a reminder of the recovery’s underlying fragility.
Jay
February 5th, 2013
10:09 am
“The statement is false. Securities and Investment ranks is the second largest contributor to Republicans. Also note that it was 10th for Dems. The total for Rep was $24 million and for Dems was 6 million.”
No, Moderate. The statement is true.
First of all, the numbers that you cite include only direct donations to presidential campaigns. They do not include donations to the parties themselves, to Senate campaigns, to House campaigns and most importantly, secret donations to SuperPACS, such as Rove’s, that spent hundreds of millions.
You also point out that “securities and investment” ranked as only the second most generous category to Mitt Romney’s campaign, implying I was wrong because it wasn’t listed first. It wasn’t first only because the largest category was “retired.”
Among interest groups, S&I was easily the most generous to Romney in raw numbers. In relative numbers, that industry gave four times as much to Romney as to Obama.
“Miscellaneous Finance” also gave almost four to one to Romney. Oil and gas gave nine times as much to Romney; hedge funds and private equity gave to Romney by five to one.
Again, my statement is accurate.
Grasshopper
February 5th, 2013
10:13 am
“Grasshopper, did you vote for Roy Barnes?”
No. I would have liked the opportunity to vote for Karen Handel.
“A GOP “implosion” does not mean the party will go away. Maybe, just maybe, it will change names…but the same people will still be out there…as an opposition party, if nothing else. So sorry, your dream of a “one-party system” is not going to come true.”
It’s not a ‘dream’ it’s a nightmare. But thanks for the non-answer anyhow.
BOHICA
February 5th, 2013
10:14 am
Jay,
These truly must seem to you to be the “best of times”. Our economy is just “rolling along” and the GOP are starting to “eat their own’.
On another topic : Are you going to start a blog post regarding the recent revelations about the “standards” our government has initiated regarding the assasination of American citizens linked to Al Qaida?
….waiting….3, 2 ,1
Doggone/GA
February 5th, 2013
10:14 am
“It’s not a ‘dream’ it’s a nightmare”
Ok, then you can rest easy…it’s not going to happen in any case.
Doggone/GA
February 5th, 2013
10:15 am
“On another topic : Are you going to start a blog post regarding the recent revelations about the “standards” our government has initiated regarding the assasination of American citizens linked to Al Qaida”
blogspot.com is ready when you are
USinUK - former Girl Scout
February 5th, 2013
10:15 am
“Do those that are overjoyed at the prospect of a GOP implosion feel that a one-party system is good for the country? ”
not for a 1-party system … but also not for the crazy people who have been running the GOP
Thomas Heyward Jr
February 5th, 2013
10:17 am
Grasshopper
February 5th, 2013
10:02 am
Do those that are overjoyed at the prospect of a GOP implosion feel that a one-party system is good for the country?
If not, what form – ideals and guiding principles – do you think a second party replacement should take?
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Good salient question Grasshopper.
You have grown such as a willow shading the head of a wise person.
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The answer you shall find in your heart.
The compartment where decency dwells.
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The answer is simple but not easy.
There is NOT guiding principles or ideaologies …or nay………..second parties.
There is only ONE guiding principle and/or idealogy…………………….for decency to prevail.
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The NAP.
Non-Agression Pact.
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It’s what civil;izations and decency are built upon and it will prevail.
Take heart…..Soon…………………the violence of progressionism and centralized statism will be behind us.
The R&D Washington party will be but a bitter memory……….a dryed husk……a spent Acorn laying upon the rotted leaves.
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So it is said.
DannyX
February 5th, 2013
10:17 am
“No. I would have liked the opportunity to vote for Karen Handel.”
Grasshopper, its okay for a state to have one party control? You feel a one party state is good for the state?
East Cobb RINO, Inc (LLC)
February 5th, 2013
10:17 am
“If they keep this up, the party will remain in the wilderness for decades to come.”
Please do keep it up for a few more decades.
maximum
February 5th, 2013
10:18 am
USinUK: I always enjoy your comments on this blog. I’ll be in London on business next week, will raise a glass of fortified wine in your honor at Gordon’s Wine Bar …
Granny Godzilla
February 5th, 2013
10:18 am
Bend Over Here It Comes Again (BOHICA)
“These truly must seem to you to be the “best of times”. Our economy is just “rolling along” and the GOP are starting to “eat their own’. ”
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pretty goofy stuff. no wonder you have to bend over so frequently.
Grasshopper
February 5th, 2013
10:19 am
“Ok, then you can rest easy…it’s not going to happen in any case.”
I’m just asking because it seems that is what so many would truly like to see happen.; one party to fail and crumble into the ‘dustbin of history’ and the other to take complete control. I like the checks and balances when both parties have some weight. The 90’s were a good example – not perfect.
Keep Up the Good Fight!
February 5th, 2013
10:19 am
We currently have a 2 party system in name only. We have the Democratic Party and then we have a party of extremists who hold extreme beliefs and are very marginal in the overall community of American “values”. They are outliers in the same fashion as a number of other extreme or small parties that also exist. They happen to be larger than many of those but less sane that many of those also.
Jefferson
February 5th, 2013
10:20 am
Reasonable people can come to reasonable conclusions under reasonable conditions, unless you are a republican.
The light is coming on.
Doggone/GA
February 5th, 2013
10:20 am
“I’m just asking because it seems that is what so many would truly like to see happen”
I suggest you check into Karl Rove’s veiws on that subject
USinUK - former Girl Scout
February 5th, 2013
10:22 am
” I always enjoy your comments on this blog. I’ll be in London on business next week, will raise a glass of fortified wine in your honor at Gordon’s Wine Bar …”
hey!! safe journey!!! and bundle up – we’re having a bit of a cold snap right now! Where will you be? need any recommendations?
appleseed
February 5th, 2013
10:23 am
Republicans wandering in the wilderness looking for manna from above.Bible toting Christian Conservatives hollering give me manna,or we will worship golden boy.
Matti
February 5th, 2013
10:24 am
The GOP ire in question is about a deficient ROI. Those who invested heavily did not get what they paid for, and the lashing out for that is not likely to end soon. What I’d like to see more of, however, is the deep and deserved self-loathing on the part of average, regular Americans who swallowed the load of bull these investors were pushing, and voted repeatedly against their own best interests and the well-being of their communities and neighbors — in the Christian sense of that word. You know, the ones who believe “scroo the poor” Mon-Sat, and then sing in the pews on Sunday, in His Holy Name, Amen. DEEP self-loathing. Flagellation, even. What do y’all say?
Jefferson
February 5th, 2013
10:24 am
Think of a background check like a seatbelt, just something to do.
Jay
February 5th, 2013
10:27 am
“the administration is telling us that it is legal to execute Americans without due process….”
That complaint epitomizes just how vapid the GOP has become in its opposition to all things Obama. We can’t stop a terrorist out in the field actively trying to do imminent harm to our country and its citizens just because he or she happens to somehow have American citizenship? Seriously? That’s your complaint? You want Anwar al-Awlaki, the guy who sent the Christmas airline bomber to this country, who pushed Major Hasan to kill fellow soldiers at Fort Hood, who became a regional commander for Al Qaida in Yemen, who encouraged others, including the Times Square bomber — you insist that he get “due process” before he is stopped?
The argument is ludicrous, and it’s even more ludicrous coming from conservatives who in other contexts recognize no legal bounds on the executive’s war-making powers, right down to the right to perform torture even though torture is clearly outlawed by our nation’s own laws. Again, it speaks to the desperation of those on the right to find any grounds whatsoever on which to condemn Obama.
If the president had refused to take out al-Awlaki, citing due process, how do you think straitroad and others would have reacted?
JohnnyReb
February 5th, 2013
10:28 am
While Jay enjoys a little hyperbole in his post, there is arguing in the ranks and Rove’s new effort is throwing gas on the fire.
Foremost is the wimps within in the party collapsing to the rhetoric of the Left as they are played like a drum. The Progressives and big boy media except Fox trot out the “hard right” phrase for any position other than their own. The Republican elites fall for the bait.
Another factor in this is the little man’s money. I know I will not be giving the RNC more money until they tell us what they intend to do that is different from the past. And, changing the message is not the answer. You can’t be against abortion, for example, except when you speak publically about it. You can be smarter in your public statements, but abandoning the basics of the party won’t get you elected. One more vote for raising tax rates and I’m through with the lot.
BOHICA
February 5th, 2013
10:29 am
Granny,
You crack me up! But, what chances do you think Jay will start a new topic about “legal assasination of US citizens?
pretty goofy stuff…not!
JohnnyReb
February 5th, 2013
10:29 am
BTW Jay, we can multitask. We still hate Obama.
Sean
February 5th, 2013
10:31 am
Time to sit back and watch the drama..
Does anyone have any popcorn?
комисса́р (Occupation)
February 5th, 2013
10:31 am
Grasshopper: “Do those that are overjoyed at the prospect of a GOP implosion feel that a one-party system is good for the country”
We already effectively have one, and have for quite some time, at the very least since Bill Clinton capitulated to Republican ideology (he probably always shared it, more or less) and pronounced “the era of big government is over”, but probably a good bit longer.
The two parties of today are what they have always been: two big business capitalist parties. It’s just that now one of the two has tried to accommodate nativist hysteria and racism, and every other type of crackpot tinfoil, half-baked theory out there, but with increasingly problematic results.
But the apparent tranquility on the Democratic side of the equation is purely illusory and has been bought at the price of an utter suppression and expulsion of anything truly deserving of the description of the “left”.
Jefferson
February 5th, 2013
10:32 am
Reb is a man without a country, I hope I stop crying in an hour or so.
td
February 5th, 2013
10:33 am
Matti
February 5th, 2013
10:24 am
“and voted repeatedly against their own best interests and the well-being of their communities and neighbors — in the Christian sense of that word. You know, the ones who believe “scroo the poor” ”
The is no way a decent Christian person can vote for a party that believes in Secular Humanism, has planks in its own party that endorses the murder of the innocent and wholeheartedly supports sodomy and denied God three times in public.
I question the faith of anyone that claims to be a Christian and then supports these values.
maximum
February 5th, 2013
10:34 am
Haven’t decided yet where I’ll be staying in London, I’ll be running a workshop in Huntington on Monday/Tuesday and in London for meetings before and after. I’ve been to England many times and have some favorite haunts, but would certainly enjoy trying something new on your recommendation. New adventures are part of life’s rich pageant!
Thomas Heyward Jr
February 5th, 2013
10:34 am
Jay
February 5th, 2013
10:27 am
“the administration is telling us that it is legal to execute Americans without due process….”
That complaint epitomizes just how vapid the GOP has become in its opposition to all things Obama. We can’t stop a terrorist out in the field actively trying to do imminent harm to our country and its citizens just because he or she happens to somehow have American citizenship? Seriously? That’s your complaint? You want Anwar al-Awlaki, the guy who sent the Christmas airline bomber to this country, who pushed Major Hasan to kill fellow soldiers at Fort Hood, who became a regional commander for Al Qaida in Yemen, who encouraged others, including the Times Square bomber — you insist that he get “due process” before he is stopped?
The argument is ludicrous, and it’s even more ludicrous coming from conservatives who in other contexts recognize no legal bounds on the executive’s war-making powers, right down to the right to perform torture even though torture is clearly outlawed by our nation’s own laws. Again, it speaks to the desperation of those on the right to find any grounds whatsoever on which to condemn Obama.
If the president had refused to take out al-Awlaki, citing due process, how do you think straitroad and others would have reacted?
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Yea verily…………….in the future due to technology,world-wide communication, basic human decency/consensus and dialogue…….violent voices such as this will be marginilized.
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The State will ……and is…………so double-ought.
Brosephus™
February 5th, 2013
10:34 am
“the administration is telling us that it is legal to execute Americans without due process….”
How can one person crap out such a huge pile of bullsh*t in one squatting???
If one decides to rise up as an enemy of the Constitution, where does that person deserve due process? Wasn’t a sizeable conservative group adamant that terrorists didn’t deserve to be Mirandized and/or provided protection by our Constitution? If that terrorist just so happens to be American, what’s the damned difference?
комисса́р (Occupation)
February 5th, 2013
10:34 am
JohnnyReb: “BTW Jay, we can multitask. We still hate Obama”
That’s not multi-tasking. Hatred of Obama was always the prime motivation. And it will remain so until leadership of the party you think you hate changes hands.
Keep Up the Good Fight!
February 5th, 2013
10:35 am
Jay, no need to worry about drones. As we know from the Bush years, if you have a memo in your file, everything is good with the conned.
Joe Hussein Mama
February 5th, 2013
10:35 am
td — “I question the faith of anyone that claims to be a Christian and then supports these values.”
I believe your faith says that it’s not for you to do the judging.
F. Sinkwich
February 5th, 2013
10:36 am
The RINOs should simply join the Dems and be done with it.
Issue resolved.
Jay
February 5th, 2013
10:37 am
“I question the faith of anyone that claims to be a Christian and then supports these values.
The thing is, td, that judgment isn’t yours to make, now is it? Are you stepping in to do God’s job for Him?
Matti
February 5th, 2013
10:39 am
td,
Then we’re even, I guess. I’ve been reading your vitriol for some time now, and would never equate you with a “decent Christian person.”
jconservative
February 5th, 2013
10:39 am
The Republicans have created a national party that is out of touch with the 50 state parties. The 50 state parties could care less about anything national and the national party could care less about anything local. Or so it seems.
The 2012 election results can be read as a backlash by women, latinos, asians and blacks against the 50 local state parties and their anti agendas.
Brosephus™
February 5th, 2013
10:39 am
JHM & Jay
Are y’all questioning the almighty power of td??? In case y’all didn’t already know it, td is always right, regardless to how wrong he is. He’s just that smart and knowledgable.
Adam
February 5th, 2013
10:40 am
GOP’s ire, once directed at Obama, now turns inward
DAMMIT! If they do that they might become reasonable again and that would mean we would actually have some choices! I don’t LIKE choices!!! Whiiiiiiine!
Aquagirl
February 5th, 2013
10:40 am
I’m just asking because it seems that is what so many would truly like to see happen.; one party to fail and crumble into the ‘dustbin of history’ and the other to take complete control.
IIRC Jay has said a functioning Republican party that provides real opposition is good for everyone, and I agree.
Personally I’m happy at this development not because I want to see Republicans disappear; I want to see the nutcases back on the sidelines. Right now they’re running the show. BTW I voted Republican before they started pandering to the crazy crowd.
TBS
February 5th, 2013
10:41 am
Matti
Seem’s td is enamored with the “fire insurance” as much or more than he is with the tenements of the Bible and his religion.
NObama
February 5th, 2013
10:41 am
Bleeding heart liberals make me sick – bite me jayweiner
Granny Godzilla
February 5th, 2013
10:42 am
BOHICA
February 5th, 2013
10:29 am
Granny,
You crack me up! But, what chances do you think Jay will start a new topic about “legal assasination of US citizens?
pretty goofy stuff…not!
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Want them to live so they can kill you or your kids or some american soldiers????
Screw the drones, send over 50,000 more troops?
bohica – indeed you go willingly into the posture
Jefferson
February 5th, 2013
10:43 am
I wouldn’t want to be in ANY group with td, he can have his own party.
TBS
February 5th, 2013
10:43 am
td
While you are here, can you provide the Bookman blog an update on the proceedings of the Electoral College changes in WI, MI, OH, PA and VA?
You were hot and heavy on this not too long ago. An update would be great.
Thanks
td
February 5th, 2013
10:44 am
Jay
February 5th, 2013
10:37 am
“I question the faith of anyone that claims to be a Christian and then supports these values.
The thing is, td, that judgment isn’t yours to make, now is it? Are you stepping in to do God’s job for Him?
You are right that it is not mine or any other Christians job to judge. It is the individual Christians duty to call out sin when they see it.
комисса́р (Occupation)
February 5th, 2013
10:44 am
Aquagirl: “IIRC Jay has said a functioning Republican party that provides real opposition is good for everyone, and I agree.”
The paradox here is that the real opposition that has been missing is that of the opposition TO the Republicans, not opposition FROM them, which continues to be in full view to a gargantuan degree. So the real crisis is that the Democratic party does not provide any real opposition — not on the security state, not on government assassinations, not on drones, presidential power, or the continuing transfer of even more power and wealth from the people to an oligarchic and unchecked power class.
THAT is the real missing opposition in our system.
Matti
February 5th, 2013
10:44 am
Aquagirl: ” I want to see the nutcases back on the sidelines. Right now they’re running the show. BTW I voted Republican before they started pandering to the crazy crowd.”
Good point. These are not our grandfathers’ Republicans.
Jay
February 5th, 2013
10:44 am
“The 50 state parties could care less about anything national…
I would disagree with you on that, jcon. I think the 50 state parties could care less about anything state and instead are focused purely on maintaining party discipline on national issues.
Look here in Georgia. Lt. Gov. Casey Cagle proposes to take state money and invest it in venture capital projects — most of which by nature will not pan out — which is almost exactly what the GOP condemned so strongly with Solyndra, etc.
Is there any outcry that state government shouldn’t be doing such things? Hardly. They’re all too busy accusing each other of violating Grover’s no-tax pledge.
Granny Godzilla
February 5th, 2013
10:45 am
td stands for “the deity”
who’d a thunk it?
RB from Gwinnett
February 5th, 2013
10:45 am
JohnnyReb, “You can’t be against abortion, for example, except when you speak publically about it. You can be smarter in your public statements, but abandoning the basics of the party won’t get you elected. One more vote for raising tax rates and I’m through with the lot.”
My last fundraising call from the RNC went pretty much exactly like that. Why in the world the idiots in the R party think the Bookman’s of the world will vote for them if they’ll just be a little more like liberals is beyond me. They still won’t get the votes, they’ll lose the conservative wing of the party (the Tea Party) and we’ll be closer to the socialist reality the left wants. Funny thing is, though, the closer we get to their utopia, the more they’re whining about the middle class and the “less fortuate” being left behind as if that should be a surprise given the history they’re repeating.
Unfortunately, we’ve come to the point where there are enough takers who will never vote themselves out of a free ride that the margin a conservative candidate has to deal with is pretty slim as evidenced by an utterly pathetic POTUS being re-elected with 8% unemployment… for 4 years.
TBS
February 5th, 2013
10:45 am
“It is the individual Christians duty to call out sin when they see it.”
Your own as well or is that just between you and your God?
Thomas Heyward Jr
February 5th, 2013
10:46 am
Brosephus™
February 5th, 2013
10:34 am
“the administration is telling us that it is legal to execute Americans without due process….”
How can one person crap out such a huge pile of bullsh*t in one squatting???
If one decides to rise up as an enemy of the Constitution, where does that person deserve due process? Wasn’t a sizeable conservative group adamant that terrorists didn’t deserve to be Mirandized and/or provided protection by our Constitution? If that terrorist just so happens to be American, what’s the damned difference?
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During the height of Stalin’s glory, the central economic planners always had to find scapegoats for their failure.
He TOO chose to disregard Due Process, the Magna Carter, or other pesky checks to assacinate his citizens………………IF they were determined to be enemies of the State.(even he had trials.)
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But anyhoo……………Friendly opinion editorials were a favorite target.
Apparently, the writers were just not doing a “good enough” job.
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Read some Bulgakov.
TaxPayer
February 5th, 2013
10:46 am
I has it on good authority that some of them there moderate conservatives, incorrectly calling themselves Republicans, helped fund SOLYNDRA! In return for certain favors most likely. Now is you is or is you ain’t part of the true Republican constituency.
Corbin Sharpe. I think, therefore I am...I think.
February 5th, 2013
10:47 am
“Are you stepping in to do God’s job for Him?”
That, in a nutshell, is exactly what the religious right is trying to do. Give them turbans and call them Taliban.
Joe Hussein Mama
February 5th, 2013
10:47 am
TBS — “the tenements of the Bible”
They anything like Sodom and Gomorrah?
/grammar nerd
Granny Godzilla
February 5th, 2013
10:48 am
So the fakers blame the takers?
Too funny.
Moderate Line
February 5th, 2013
10:49 am
Jay
February 5th, 2013
10:27 am
“the administration is telling us that it is legal to execute Americans without due process….”
That complaint epitomizes just how vapid the GOP has become in its opposition to all things Obama. We can’t stop a terrorist out in the field actively trying to do imminent harm to our country and its citizens just because he or she happens to somehow have American citizenship? Seriously? That’s your complaint? You want Anwar al-Awlaki, the guy who sent the Christmas airline bomber to this country, who pushed Major Hasan to kill fellow soldiers at Fort Hood, who became a regional commander for Al Qaida in Yemen, who encouraged others, including the Times Square bomber — you insist that he get “due process” before he is stopped?
The argument is ludicrous, and it’s even more ludicrous coming from conservatives who in other contexts recognize no legal bounds on the executive’s war-making powers, right down to the right to perform torture even though torture is clearly outlawed by our nation’s own laws. Again, it speaks to the desperation of those on the right to find any grounds whatsoever on which to condemn Obama.
If the president had refused to take out al-Awlaki, citing due process, how do you think straitroad and others would have reacted?
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I am both against torture and drones killing American citizens so your argument is dead for me.
Your defense of Obama is that the Republicans would criticize him no matter what. I expect Dem partisan to support him no matter what. However, that does not distract from the issue of whether an American citizen is deprived of his due process just because he is on foreign soil. Also you need to find a better criticism of the administration position because I voted for Obama in the last election and voted pretty much straight Democrat.
I have to give credit to the ACLU it protects peoples right regardless of partisanship. It is unfortunate that people like Jay are more concerned about supporting their tribe than what is right or wrong.
The justification you present is dangerous. If this person was on American soil we could send drones to kill him. We would need a warrant with probable cause. Any liberal making such an argument is on rationalizing.
You sound like the very people you criticize.
TBS
February 5th, 2013
10:49 am
JHM
tenets, tenements……………
and this being a blog………. sometimes I catch my error, others times I don’t……..
I don’t worry about it too much.
td
February 5th, 2013
10:49 am
TBS
February 5th, 2013
10:43 am
td
While you are here, can you provide the Bookman blog an update on the proceedings of the Electoral College changes in WI, MI, OH, PA and VA?
You were hot and heavy on this not too long ago. An update would be great.
Thanks
“Hot and heavy”, really? Bringing up the subject for discussion on a Constitutional basis is what blog talk should be about. If the Republicans in those states feel it is not in the best interest of their state then so be it. My point is that it is legal and Constitutional for them to divide their electoral votes anyway the state seems fit.
RB from Gwinnett
February 5th, 2013
10:50 am
Jay, “The thing is, td, that judgment isn’t yours to make, now is it?”
He did warn us to be leary of false prophets, Jay. When we see one, do you think we’re supposed to keep that to ourselves or do you think God might want us to warn others?
TaxPayer
February 5th, 2013
10:51 am
I don’t believe td grasps the definition of “judgemental”.
TBS
February 5th, 2013
10:51 am
td
Then provide us an update as to how it is going. And yes you were hot and heavy when it was hot and heavy on the right leaning websites and even being talked about by the RNC Chairmen
Now, how about an update? How is that working out for the 2016 election?
DannyX
February 5th, 2013
10:52 am
“It is the individual Christians duty to call out sin when they see it.”
td, what are your sins? What should we be calling out? You want to judge, your Bible says we get to judge you too!
TBS
February 5th, 2013
10:52 am
“He did warn us to be leary of false prophets, Jay. When we see one, do you think we’re supposed to keep that to ourselves or do you think God might want us to warn others?”
And how do we know td isn’t one?
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
February 5th, 2013
10:53 am
“the administration is telling us that it is legal to execute Americans without due process….”
And I happen to agree with that decision if they are terrorists on the field of battle (and I wouldn’t lose sleep over it if the battlefield that day was in the U.S.) !!
Then JAY retorts:
“That complaint epitomizes just how vapid the GOP has become in its opposition to all things Obama.”
The HYPOCRISY is that if a Republican was president you libs. would be moaning about the lack of “due process” yourselves as YOU would be VAPID about anything Republican or conservative.
GEEZ !
Aquagirl
February 5th, 2013
10:54 am
So the real crisis is that the Democratic party does not provide any real opposition
I completely agree…that’s what happens when people give you what I’d call an “Akin vote.”
Jay
February 5th, 2013
10:54 am
“It is the individual Christians duty to call out sin when they see it.”
No, it is not. Not according to the words of Jesus, it is not.
“Why worry about a speck in your friend’s eye when you have a log in your own?”
“Let he who is without sin cast the first stone.”
As I understand it, it is the individual Christian’s duty to worry about that individual Christian’s own sin, not that of others.
комисса́р (Occupation)
February 5th, 2013
10:54 am
Brosephus: “If one decides to rise up as an enemy of the Constitution, where does that person deserve due process? “:
The determination of who has violated the constitution is precisely what due process is there to safeguard.
Granny Godzilla
February 5th, 2013
10:54 am
RB
Warn folks?
Like the NRA does? Or the Mayan calender thing? Or y2K?
Go for it, just remember if the warning is silly. stupid or wrong accepting the results like an adult is required.
Moderate Line
February 5th, 2013
10:55 am
Jay
February 5th, 2013
10:27 am
you insist that he get “due process” before he is stopped?
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Two problems with this statement.
1) I find it hard to believe that killing one person would stop anything.
2) Can we now send drones to kill suspected serial killers. Should we insist on due process before he is stopped.
TBS
February 5th, 2013
10:55 am
Matthew 7:1
“Judge not, that ye be not judged.”
And here I thought it was just the Old Testament that some like to pick and choose what to adhere to or not. (get of Leviticus free cards).
Learn something new everyday.
Brosephus™
February 5th, 2013
10:57 am
Heyward: He TOO chose to disregard Due Process, the Magna Carter, or other pesky checks to assacinate his citizens………………IF they were determined to be enemies of the State.(even he had trials.)
Did Stalin have laws that mirrored our Constitution? Did Stalin take an oath of office that’s exactly like the POTUS does? Does the Russian military take an oath of office that mirrors what the US military takes?
Go and read what the Oath of Office says for everybody involved in the use of drones, from the president all the way down to the person that plugs them in when they return to base.
I have no problem with anybody that opposes Obama and/or the use of drones. I’m simply stating out that all those involved are only carrying out their oaths. If you don’t want to have Hellfire missiles shoved down your throat, then don’t become an enemy to the Constitution.
RB from Gwinnett
February 5th, 2013
10:57 am
Matthew 18:15-17, “15“If your brother sins against you,b go and show him his fault, just between the two of you. If he listens to you, you have won your brother over. 16But if he will not listen, take one or two others along, so that ‘every matter may be established by the testimony of two or three witnesses.’c 17If he refuses to listen to them, tell it to the church; and if he refuses to listen even to the church, treat him as you would a pagan or a tax collector. ”
Seems to me we’re suppose call sin what it is and to separate ourselves from those who refuse to acknowledge their sin.
Yet another reason why that “come together” think ain’t gonna happen.
TBS
February 5th, 2013
10:58 am
“If you don’t want to have Hellfire missiles shoved down your throat, then don’t become an enemy to the Constitution.”
Or be at the wrong wedding in WI?
TBS
February 5th, 2013
11:00 am
RB
And as I asked td, you calling out your own sins as well or is that just between you and your God?
RB from Gwinnett
February 5th, 2013
11:01 am
“And how do we know td isn’t one?”
Read the Bible, pray about it, compare what td says to the truth contained in the scriptures, and allow the Holy Spirit to speak to you.
Let us know how that turns out for you.
TBS
February 5th, 2013
11:03 am
RB
I’m asking you. And what are your sins? Guess like td you are much better at calling out others.
What a surprise.
Matti
February 5th, 2013
11:03 am
My neighbor RB refuses to love me as he loves himself.
Gosh.
Jay
February 5th, 2013
11:04 am
“Can we now send drones to kill suspected serial killers. Should we insist on due process before he is stopped?”
We can arrest a suspected serial killer, thus stopping him from killing again, and also give him or her the trial that the Constitution guarantees. That is a law-enforcement matter.
We don’t have that option when the serial killer/terrorist is in Yemen, or Pakistan, plotting attacks against our country. That is a military matter, not a law-enforcement matter.
Tom
February 5th, 2013
11:04 am
I Cor 6:10–”Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God.” What RB and td if not revilers? I’m just calling out their sin in Christian love and pointing out they’re both headed straight for hell.
DannyX
February 5th, 2013
11:04 am
“Like the NRA does? Or the Mayan calender thing? Or y2K?”
Don’t forget these false prophets,
Franklin Graham, Benny Hinn, Eddie Long, Jim Bakker, Jimmy Swaggart, Pat Robertson, Prophetess Juanita Bynum, Oral Roberts, James Dobson, George Rekers, Paul Crouch, Crefelo Dollar, the Pope, Robert Schuller, John Hagee, TD Jakes…
USinUK - former Girl Scout
February 5th, 2013
11:05 am
ohmysweetbabyjeebus …
#1 on the IT’S ABOUT BLOODY TIME Hit Parade:
http://dealbook.nytimes.com/2013/02/04/u-s-and-states-prepare-to-sue-s-p-over-mortgage-ratings/?smid=tw-share
The Justice Department filed civil fraud charges late on Monday against the nation’s largest credit-ratings agency, Standard & Poor’s, accusing the firm of inflating the ratings of mortgage investments and setting them up for a crash when the financial crisis struck.
Thulsa Doom
February 5th, 2013
11:06 am
“Geez !
Nothing about MARTA, Georgia transportation or charter schools this morning ???”
Scout,
Come on now. You know Jay has to get them all frothing at the mouth in the morning with some fresh raw red meat. Let them work out some anger, hate, and frustration first before we move on to some real topics of discussion.
Brosephus™
February 5th, 2013
11:06 am
Occupation: The determination of who has violated the constitution is precisely what due process is there to safeguard.
One would think that joining and supporting a group that considers itself at war with the US would qualify for treason, which is mentioned by name in the Constitution. Then again, that’s only my personal viewpoint.
Brosephus™
February 5th, 2013
11:07 am
Or be at the wrong wedding in WI?
DAMMITTTT!!!!!!!!!!!! You owe me a smoothie…. Now people are gonna think I’m nuts for laughing all by myself.
Thulsa Doom
February 5th, 2013
11:09 am
“We don’t have that option when the serial killer/terrorist is in Yemen, or Pakistan, plotting attacks against our country. That is a military matter, not a law-enforcement matter.”
There goes Jay sounding all Republican warmonger like. What the hell has gotten into the imam?
RB from Gwinnett
February 5th, 2013
11:10 am
“My neighbor RB refuses to love me as he loves himself. Gosh.”
I’m not losing any sleep over it either, matti. TBS, you can put that one on my list if it makes you feel better.
When are the few Christians left in the Democrat party going to wake up and realize the majority of their party hates their religion?
td
February 5th, 2013
11:10 am
Brosephus™
February 5th, 2013
10:34 am
“the administration is telling us that it is legal to execute Americans without due process….”
“If one decides to rise up as an enemy of the Constitution, where does that person deserve due process?”
So since the Occupy movement declared openly in public that the Constitution was the enemy of the people and should be done away with then does this not rise to the level of being an enemy of the Constitution? Do they not deserve due process?
“Wasn’t a sizeable conservative group adamant that terrorists didn’t deserve to be Mirandized and/or provided protection by our Constitution?”
They were not US Citizens.
” If that terrorist just so happens to be American, what’s the damned difference?”
Here is where I tend to somewhat agree with you. It is a very fine line we walk and a slippery slope that could get ugly in the end.
I had no problem with water boarding and other enhanced interrogation techniques used and I do not have a problem with drone strikes on foreign nationals and only a few reservations about the same treatment to US citizens that declare war on the Constitution. We do need to be more in the open about what we are doing to US Citizens or we risk slipping down that slope.
Cosby
February 5th, 2013
11:11 am
Ahh Jay, lets just dismiss Congress and apoint the annoited one as King…might as well, he does what he wants anyway and lives the life style of a King…perhaps he will make you a Knight!
Picking winners and loosers with tax payer money called stimulus
Fast and Ffurious – while wanting to take guns from US Citizens and deastroy the 2nd amendment
Trillions per year in incresed spending
Over $13,000 pages of rules and reg’s for Obama Care while cost of health care rises
dictating to Private concerns what benefits they will or will not offer
Using Departments to violet the constitution under his direction NLRB vs Boeing
Promoting Class war fare
Being handled with kid gloves by the media
Increasing taxes on everyone – oops those that still have a job
Advertising to illegals how to get food stamps
Ahh the list goes on but the King can do no wrong!
Redneck Convert (R--and proud of it)
February 5th, 2013
11:11 am
Well, IMO the guy’s got a point about due process. I think we ought to have a traveling jury to go along with our troops and the drones. They could get a judge to sign off on all the wiretaps, etc. First they’d need a grand jury to listen to all the wiretaps and indict the Terrist. Then we could have a trial. You can try a person if you can’t find him. Then we’d pass the sentence along to the drone operator in some easy chair in Las Vegas. But before he could do anything the Justice Department would make a telephone call:
Ahmed: Hello?
Justice Dept.: Greetings, Ahmed. Do you recall when you talked to your friends about how you killed those three Americans?
Ahmed: Who is this? How did . . .
Justice Dept.: It’s a friend in law enforcement in your home country. We know you’re an American citizen and entitled to due process.
Ahmed: What do you want?
Justice Dept.: We know you’re entitled to due process, and we’ve given it to you.
Ahmed: What are you talking about?
Justice Dept.: You’ve been indicted, tried, and convicted for murder. I’m announcing your sentence.
Ahmed: What?
Justice Dept.: Look up at the sky, Ahmed.
Ahmed: AHHHHHHHEEEEE!
That ought to satisfy any person that beleives in the Constitution.
Jay
February 5th, 2013
11:11 am
RB, you’re overlooking a key word in that passage:
“If your brother sins against YOU ….”
Not against God. Against you. If your brother steals from you, cheats you, etc., this is how you handle it.
Uh Huh...The GOP's CHICKENS are coming home to ROOST
February 5th, 2013
11:15 am
The CONS have to face the consequences of their MISTAKES and BAD DEEDS.
The BAD and EVIL things the CONS have done in the past are beginning to
cause them problems.
WE TOLD YOU SO.
Matti
February 5th, 2013
11:17 am
Ooooo! Sizzle…. burn…. Mr. Bookman’s rollin’ holy today with the quotes. LOVE it!
RB from Gwinnett
February 5th, 2013
11:17 am
Jay, “Not against God. Against you. If your brother steals from you, cheats you, etc., this is how you handle it.”
You mean like if he uses the government to steal my money for his own purposes?
Constructive Feedback
February 5th, 2013
11:18 am
Does anyone else notice that Jay Bookman is able to live in a sea of “Progressive Democratic” usurpation of the “Hopes And Dreams” collected from “The Least Of These” – but he can only bring himself to focus on Republicans?
ALTERNATIVE HEADLINE: “The GOP Redirects Its Racism And Hatred That Was Once Targeted Toward Obama, Inward BUT Jay Bookman Will Not Be Talking About The ‘Obama Drone Strike Policy’ That Broke Today Because He Refuses To Do Introspection About What He Actually Believes”
Joe Hussein Mama
February 5th, 2013
11:19 am
TBS — “I don’t worry about it too much.”
I don’t, either. FWIW, I think that most folks who are grammar or punctuation police need to try decaf.
In your case, however, things strayed into the realm of Delicious Malapropisms and I just couldn’t resist. No hard feelings, I hope.
Granny Godzilla
February 5th, 2013
11:20 am
Constructive Feedback
nope.
Brosephus™
February 5th, 2013
11:20 am
So since the Occupy movement declared openly in public that the Constitution was the enemy of the people and should be done away with then does this not rise to the level of being an enemy of the Constitution?
No. According to the US Constitution:
Section 3.
Treason against the United States, shall consist only in levying War against them, or in adhering to their Enemies, giving them Aid and Comfort.
Occupy has not picked up arms or supported anybody picking up arms against the US, therefore they do not rise to the level of treason as defined within the Constitution. Anwar Al-Awlaki, on the other hand, openly supported a group that has already killed thousands of Americans.
As he was hiding within a country that has no extradition agreement with the US, what other options do we have with dealing with such a person? Do you simply allow him to continue to spread and influence hatred for the US simply because he’s American, or do you treat him just like every other terrorist he influences?
Joe Hussein Mama
February 5th, 2013
11:21 am
RB — “He did warn us to be leary of false prophets, Jay. When we see one, do you think we’re supposed to keep that to ourselves or do you think God might want us to warn others?”
That’s exactly what Jay did. He warned us about td.
Moderate Line
February 5th, 2013
11:21 am
Jay
February 5th, 2013
11:04 am
“Can we now send drones to kill suspected serial killers. Should we insist on due process before he is stopped?”
We can arrest a suspected serial killer, thus stopping him from killing again, and also give him or her the trial that the Constitution guarantees. That is a law-enforcement matter.
We don’t have that option when the serial killer/terrorist is in Yemen, or Pakistan, plotting attacks against our country. That is a military matter, not a law-enforcement matter.
+++
What? You can only hold someone for so long without charging them which means you need evidence so the serial killer can continue to kill until there is enough evidence to charge them.
Here is the basis for such an attack:
that a high-level American intelligence official has determined the individual poses an imminent threat, that capture is infeasible, and that the strike is conducted according to the laws of war governing use of force.
Read more: http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/281069-doj-white-paper-on-killer-drones-and-us-citizens-abroad#ixzz2K2epP8p2
Your are accepting that a”high level intelligence official” gets to determine whether an American citizen on foreign soil can be take out.
One high level government official gets to determined if an American citizen is guilty and gets to deliver the verdict.
In an interview with NBC, Jameel Jaffer, deputy legal director of the ACLU, called the document “chilling.”
“Basically, it argues that the government has the right to carry out the extrajudicial killing of an American citizen. … It recognizes some limits on the authority it sets out, but the limits are elastic and vaguely defined, and it’s easy to see how they could be manipulated,” Jaffer said.
It something to remember when traveling overseas. One high level intelligence official decides you are a threat and you can be taken out. Seems odd someone on the left would make such an argument. I can only explain it by tribalism.
Uh Huh...The GOP's CHICKENS are coming home to ROOST
February 5th, 2013
11:23 am
@RB from Gwinnett
February 5th, 2013
10:57 am
Matthew 18:15-17, “15“If your brother sins against you,b go and show him his fault, just between the two of you. If he listens to you, you have won your brother over. 16But if he will not listen, take one or two others along, so that ‘every matter may be established by the testimony of two or three witnesses.’c 17If he refuses to listen to them, tell it to the church; and if he refuses to listen even to the church, treat him as you would a pagan or a tax collector. ”
Seems to me we’re suppose call sin what it is and to separate ourselves from those who refuse to acknowledge their sin.
Yet another reason why that “come together” think ain’t gonna happen.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
RB FROM GWINNETT YOU SKIPPED OVER THIS:
Matthew 7:5
You HYPOCRITE (RB from Gwinnett), first take the plank out of your OWN eye,
and then YOU RB FROM GWINNETT will see clearly to remove the speck from
your brother’s eye.
Uh Huh
Keep Up the Good Fight!
February 5th, 2013
11:23 am
<ISo since the Occupy movement declared openly in public that the Constitution was the enemy of the people and should be done away with …
False start! Not what they “declared”
Lord Help Us
February 5th, 2013
11:23 am
‘That’s exactly what Jay did. He warned us about td.’
Jaysus?
td
February 5th, 2013
11:23 am
Jay
February 5th, 2013
10:54 am
“It is the individual Christians duty to call out sin when they see it.”
No, it is not. Not according to the words of Jesus, it is not.
“Why worry about a speck in your friend’s eye when you have a log in your own?”
“Let he who is without sin cast the first stone.”
As I understand it, it is the individual Christian’s duty to worry about that individual Christian’s own sin, not that of others.
Read Matthew 18: 15-17. I am pretty sure it is in Red in my Bible.
guy
February 5th, 2013
11:24 am
Why not discuss the economy that’s in a ditch,what to do about the deficit, why no one cares, and the real issues that matter? Discussing gay rights,boy scouts,and whether or not to play football is only a diversion. That is a joke! PITIFUL
Joe Hussein Mama
February 5th, 2013
11:25 am
RB — “When are the few Christians left in the Democrat party going to wake up and realize the majority of their party hates their religion?”
Speaking as a Democrat and as an atheist, I don’t hate christians *or* christianity.
I just don’t think that either the religion or its adherents deserve any kind of special treatment or status.
DannyX
February 5th, 2013
11:25 am
“You mean like if he uses the government to steal my money for his own purposes?”
Exactly! The Godless Democrats need to start worshiping the Rich. Jesus loved the Rich and hated the poor and sick. Money is the root of all good. The Rich shall inherit the earth. Blessed are the job creators and bankers. Stone them!
The poor should sell all of their Obamaphones and give the money to the Rich!
TBS
February 5th, 2013
11:26 am
JHM
Its all good. I’m probably the worst offender on the blog. Easy target
Bro
Read where you said the baby might be on the way soon. Hope all goes well.
DannyX
February 5th, 2013
11:27 am
td, what would you get stoned for?
What are your sins?
getalife
February 5th, 2013
11:27 am
F the gop.
Who cares about the gop.
They broke it so they fix it.
RB from Gwinnett
February 5th, 2013
11:27 am
And BTW, Jay, that’s the kind of simple minded BS from you and others we’re fed up with. If you really think we should be silent about abortion simply because it wasn’t us who was aborted, you can take that thought and shove it. You and your bretheren’s simple minded attempts to use a Bible you don’t read of believe in to squash the Christian’s place at the table in this country is going to lead to a day when they get fed up and reach across the table and smack you in the mouth.
Have you liberals ever stopped to think all these natural disasters you keep blaming on global warming might actually be God trying to get your attention? The Bible is full of times when God used storms, earthquakes, plagues, etc, to remove nations, cities, and people from the earth. We’re not exempt from his wrath when he decides we’ve strayed too far.
Thomas Heyward Jr
February 5th, 2013
11:29 am
It’s never too late to choose decency————and put the violence of the State behind thee————-
.
“For every Southern boy fourteen years old, not once but whenever he wants it, there is the instant when it’s still not yet two o’clock on that July afternoon in 1863, the brigades are in position behind the rail fence, the guns are laid and ready in the woods and the furled flags are already loosened to break out and Pickett himself with his long oiled ringlets and his hat in one hand probably and his sword in the other looking up the hill waiting for Longstreet to give the word and it’s all in the balance, it hasn’t happened yet, it hasn’t even begun yet, it not only hasn’t begun yet but there is still time for it not to begin against that position and those circumstances which made more men than Garnett and Kemper and Armistead and Wilcox look grave yet it’s going to begin, we all know that, we have come too far with too much at stake and that moment doesn’t need even a fourteen-year-old boy to think This time. Maybe this time with all this much to lose and all this much to gain: Pennsylvania, Maryland, the world, the golden dome of Washington itself to crown with desperate and unbelievable victory the desperate gamble, the cast made two years ago….
.
ITS ALL BUSH"S FAULT
February 5th, 2013
11:30 am
The MAYANS said it was time for a new begining. GOP the party of Stupid.Lapierre the Hate monger.
Thomas Heyward Jr
February 5th, 2013
11:31 am
, not once but whenever he wants it, there is the instant when it’s still not yet two o’clock on that July afternoon in 1863,
Moderate Line
February 5th, 2013
11:32 am
Brosephus™
February 5th, 2013
11:20 am
As he was hiding within a country that has no extradition agreement with the US, what other options do we have with dealing with such a person?
++++
So we can use drone attacks to kill American citizens as long a high ranking intelligence official deems the person a threat as long as we don’t have an extradition treaty.
Keep in mind his 16 year old son was killed.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abdulrahman_al-Aulaqi
Dharma Bum
February 5th, 2013
11:32 am
Democrats aren’t looking any better than Republicans at this point Mr. Bookman. Beating your chest and repeatedly stating that a party is “imploding, dying, falling apart, etc.” doesn’t magically make it so.
Libs blame the Cons for everything, and Cons blame the Libs for everything.
Same old tripe from both sides. America needs fresh ideas that neither Democrats nor Republicans are able to offer.
Matti
February 5th, 2013
11:33 am
RB: “You mean like if he uses the government to steal my money for his own purposes?”
I’ll see your “steal my money” and raise you a “bearing false witness.”
Stevie Ray..Clowns to the left and Jokers to the right..here I am...
February 5th, 2013
11:33 am
The GOP has a great opportunity to make the most of this down time to recover. Much of success down the road depends on where the economy goes including, growth, employment, debt service/deficit. If these numbers trend negatively, it won’t take much of a message to gain traction. The bet is whether or not the ruling Keynesian DEM allegiance results in troubled water.
The infighting while good theatre for the left, is necessary and a meaningful part of any recovery…or shall we call it mourning process..
DannyX
February 5th, 2013
11:33 am
“Have you liberals ever stopped to think all these natural disasters you keep blaming on global warming might actually be God trying to get your attention?”
I always thought natural disasters were due to our Christian conservatives cheering Shock and Awe, divorcing like crazy, praying in public, worshiping the rich, and ridiculing the poor.
getalife
February 5th, 2013
11:34 am
President Obama is annihilating the gop.
Party over.
Moderate Line
February 5th, 2013
11:34 am
Moderate Line
February 5th, 2013
11:32 am
Brosephus™
February 5th, 2013
11:20 am
As he was hiding within a country that has no extradition agreement with the US, what other options do we have with dealing with such a person?
++++
So we can use drone attacks to kill American citizens as long a high ranking intelligence official deems the person a threat as long as we don’t have an extradition treaty.
Keep in mind his 16 year old son was killed.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abdulrahman_al-Aulaqi
+++++
I guess it is ok as long as a high level intelligence official says it is ok and we have no extradition treaty with the country.
I guess that is one incentive to sign an extradition treaty. If you don’t we have the right to ignore your right to sovereignty.
Joe Hussein Mama
February 5th, 2013
11:35 am
RB — “You and your bretheren’s simple minded attempts to use a Bible you don’t read of believe in”
Don’t know where you got the idea that we haven’t *read* your bible. In fact, quite a few atheists I know have made it a point to read the bible — along with a lot of other religious books and documents. Reading something doesn’t mean you’re automatically going to *believe* it, you know.
“to squash the Christian’s place at the table in this country”
No religion has a “place at the table” in this country. Only individuals do. Now, if you want to bring your religion with you when you sit down with the rest of us, that’s fine, but don’t go expecting to be accorded some kind of consideration or deference because of who or what you pray to.
“is going to lead to a day when they get fed up and reach across the table and smack you in the mouth.”
We’ll know they’re christians by their love.
Thulsa Doom
February 5th, 2013
11:36 am
“When are the few Christians left in the Democrat party going to wake up and realize the majority of their party hates their religion?”
Well this is after all the party that booed God at their convention. That’s just plain sick what they’ve become.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eUJE9YfsbNQ
ITS ALL BUSH"S FAULT
February 5th, 2013
11:36 am
The biggest natural disater is the Republicon party . Followed by Fake News etc…
td
February 5th, 2013
11:37 am
Brosephus™
February 5th, 2013
11:20 am
I could debate your definition of treason since we have convicted US citizens of treason for nothing more then selling our intelligence secrets to nations that never actually raised arms against us (USSSR) but that is really details.
“As he was hiding within a country that has no extradition agreement with the US, what other options do we have with dealing with such a person? Do you simply allow him to continue to spread and influence hatred for the US simply because he’s American, or do you treat him just like every other terrorist he influences?”
All very good questions that I do not personally have concrete answers. These are the types of questions that should be in the open and debated.
Stevie Ray..Clowns to the left and Jokers to the right..here I am...
February 5th, 2013
11:38 am
Thomas Heyward Jr
February 5th, 2013
10:46 am
Master and Margerita one of my top 3 favorite books. As you know, the Rolling Stones based “Sympathy for the Devil” on this book. The story behind the book is as fascinating as the book itself.
If you are interested, an exceptional mulit-part series was made a number of years ago..you can google it and watch with english subtitles..
getalife
February 5th, 2013
11:39 am
Another slow news days with only gop scandals.
The vast rw conspiracy turned on the gop.
Good blogging times.
комисса́р (Occupation)
February 5th, 2013
11:39 am
td: “I had no problem with water boarding and other enhanced interrogation techniques .. ”
So you have no problem with torture.
And what’s even worse, you obviously don’t have any qualms about admitting that you support torture. Which is very – interesting.
Thomas
February 5th, 2013
11:39 am
http://www.bloomberg.com/video/get-to-know-house-majority-leader-eric-cantor-tS~lOdMCS1CtIN9djHtuTQ.html
Wall Street loves Eric Cantor
Is that an endorsement or an indictment- hmmmm
Corbin Sharpe. I think, therefore I am...I think.
February 5th, 2013
11:39 am
It’s simply a case of “if Obama is for it, I’m against it” obstructionism.
The Cons wouldn’t let the President close Gitmo and now Gitmo has become moot. Bottom line…the President is killing the very people who would kill us. Good for him, says I.
Aquagirl
February 5th, 2013
11:40 am
You and your bretheren’s simple minded attempts to use a Bible you don’t read of believe in to squash the Christian’s place at the table in this country is going to lead to a day when they get fed up and reach across the table and smack you in the mouth.
I associate dinner table fights with bad reality TV, not Christianity. Maybe I’m hanging out with the boring Christians.
Keep Up the Good Fight!
February 5th, 2013
11:40 am
Have you liberals ever stopped to think all these natural disasters you keep blaming on global warming might actually be God trying to get your attention? The Bible is full of times when God used storms, earthquakes, plagues, etc, to remove nations, cities, and people from the earth.
from the same child poster who told us that humans were incapable of comprehending the ways and reasons that God acts in those godly ways.
Again, our poster understands those meanings.
But hey, God sending a storm to the RNC convention was not a warning shot from God, it was Obama’s fault.
Uh Huh...The GOP's CHICKENS are coming home to ROOST
February 5th, 2013
11:40 am
@RB from Gwinnett
February 5th, 2013
11:10 am
“My neighbor RB refuses to love me as he loves himself. Gosh.”
I’m not losing any sleep over it either, matti. TBS, you can put that one on my list if it makes you feel better.
When are the few Christians left in the Democrat party going to wake up and realize the majority of their party hates their religion?
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WHO in GOD’s name APPOINTED you the EXPERT on who HATES their religion?
You sound like a HERETIC.
You sound like a FALSE PROPHET who hates others that do not agree
with him.
Proverbs 11:9
With his mouth the godless man (You RB) would destroy his neighbor,
but by knowledge the righteous are DELIVERED.
TBS
February 5th, 2013
11:42 am
Why did I know when it came down to “confession” time, the only thing one would hear was “Silent Nite” playing softly in the background?
Maybe because that’s how it plays out each time this or similar issues get brought up.
Thomas
February 5th, 2013
11:42 am
btw- gotta love the political nerds- crush, destroy, fight, super pac,- both sides are a bunch of pusses
Like hackers if they spent more doing there job v. being emotional children they could accomplish a thing or two
Thulsa Doom
February 5th, 2013
11:42 am
getalife
February 5th, 2013
11:39 am
Another slow news days with only gop scandals.
No doubt. That Mendendez feller alleged to be with 14 year old Dominican prostitutes is quite a black eye for the his party huh?
getalife
February 5th, 2013
11:42 am
I do notice cons posting here have dropped off so I call on those disgruntled cons to join the new majority.
Country before party.
Corbin Sharpe. I think, therefore I am...I think.
February 5th, 2013
11:42 am
Joe Hussein Mama
February 5th, 2013
11:35 am
VERY well said!
Stevie Ray..Clowns to the left and Jokers to the right..here I am...
February 5th, 2013
11:42 am
BRO,
I have a problem with the drones inasmuch as we really don’t know how successful they are at getting the bad guys and if the collateral damage near and long term are worth it. Of course we hear from the administration that we killed a few known terrorists with a strike but how this is validated as well as the actual number of civilians killed is suspect.
What if they released a hit ratio? You know, the number of dead civilians it take to take out a single bad guy.
Our best strategy is to pack up our drones, troops et al and bring them home to use when we have real threat to our shores…why we continue to assume this evangelical spread of our form of democracy as a cure-all is beyond me…what do we owe any of these countries?
Joe Hussein Mama
February 5th, 2013
11:43 am
td — “I could debate your definition of treason since we have convicted US citizens of treason for nothing more then selling our intelligence secrets to nations that never actually raised arms against us (USSSR) but that is really details.”
I’m pretty sure that convictions such as you speak of were made under charges of *espionage,* not treason. Here’s one such example:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jonathan_Pollard
the dog
February 5th, 2013
11:44 am
RB-let’s imagine your bff is recently returned from active duty in Afghanistan. While he was gone, you stole his woman. He just found out and he is majorly pissed. While he was serving, it was determined he was a can short of a 6 pack. Would you like your former bff to undergo a background check?
St Simons - he-ne-ha
February 5th, 2013
11:45 am
“There’s a lot of unhappiness out there” (in con-world)
and they’re dwindling by the hour…
“Live by the sword, die by the sword.”
yep, one less Republican voter in Midland, Ala today…
getalife
February 5th, 2013
11:45 am
doomy,
The prostitute lied but he did take illegal jet trips because he did not declare them so he paid back the money.
Regnad Kcin
February 5th, 2013
11:45 am
” …Christian’s place at the table in this country is going to lead to a day when they get fed up and reach across the table and smack you in the mouth. ‘
That’s what Jesus would do, after all. *sigh* The false Christians like RB and CC really turn my crank…
Thulsa Doom
February 5th, 2013
11:46 am
“WHO in GOD’s name APPOINTED you the EXPERT on who HATES their religion?”
And with that Uh Huh goes into his own hypocritical tirade by suggesting RB is a heretic, false prophet, etc. I guess Uh Huh must have APPOINTED himself as the EXPERT on religious heretics and false prophets. Irony…
Brosephus™
February 5th, 2013
11:46 am
So we can use drone attacks to kill American citizens as long a high ranking intelligence official deems the person a threat as long as we don’t have an extradition treaty.
If that person openly engages in and/or supports a group that has taken up arms against America, then I think he/she are no longer afforded the protections of the Constitution. Treason, as defined within the Constitution, would tend to support that depending on your interpretation of the post I made earlier.
Also, everybody involved in making those decisions take an oath of office that includes defending the Constitution.
http://uspolitics.about.com/od/usgovernment/a/oaths_of_office.htm
Everyone, except for the president, also has the phrase “I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic” which an American openly engaged in war against the US would likely be considered a domestic enemy. If we do nothing about that person, then there’s the charge of not fulfilling your oath of office.
As to his 16 year old son, I don’t agree with targeting him, but if that was my dad, you wouldn’t have caught me within 100 miles of him. I know enough, and knew enough at 16, that being around a person with a target painted on their back was a recipe for disaster and/or death. If it were my decision to make and one of my own family members went to Yemen in support of AQ, I would have no qualms at making the decision to take them out.
Stevie Ray..Clowns to the left and Jokers to the right..here I am...
February 5th, 2013
11:47 am
Thulsa Doom
February 5th, 2013
11:42 am
Actually, I think a huge story was released today. The administration is finally going to sue the rating agencies who’s negligent lack of acceptable diligence provided a false sense of security regarding mortgage packages…leading investors and insurers like AIG to explode.
There also existed a conflict in the the fees Goldman and others paid for bogus ratings, when the requestors knew various tranches were toxic, served as motivation for agencies to look askance at traditional diligence efforts.
This is a big deal…
St Simons - he-ne-ha
February 5th, 2013
11:47 am
Diapers are not a deductible expense.
Did Vitter pay that back? ok, then he’s good.
In the con vernacular, Ditto Menendez.
Put in another quarter, cons.
Regnad Kcin
February 5th, 2013
11:48 am
““You mean like if he uses the government to steal my money for his own purposes?””
RB is saying be doesn’t pay his taxes – RB is saying someone comes and takes it by stealth. RB is lying, and trying to use the the words of his savior to justify it.
Dispicable.
Thulsa Doom
February 5th, 2013
11:49 am
“That’s what Jesus would do, after all. *sigh* The false Christians like RB and CC really turn my crank…”
Looks like you’ll just have to do the Christian thing and return the other cheek then I reckon.
Stevie Ray..Clowns to the left and Jokers to the right..here I am...
February 5th, 2013
11:49 am
Regnad Kcin
February 5th, 2013
11:45 am
Now now..are you suggesting that hope and faith are not winning strategies to overcome real problems we face?
In the words of the late Hunter S Thompson…Good god man!
Keep Up the Good Fight!
February 5th, 2013
11:49 am
Aquagirl, slapping is perfectly acceptable according to “Trolls for Jesus” which is a division of “Imposers who must tell others how to worship”
They often meet at a dance club after attending church to proclaim how good they be.
Uh Huh...The GOP's CHICKENS are coming home to ROOST
February 5th, 2013
11:50 am
@Thulsa Doom
February 5th, 2013
11:36 am
“When are the few Christians left in the Democrat party going to wake up and realize the majority of their party hates their religion?”
Well this is after all the party that booed God at their convention. That’s just plain sick what they’ve become.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eUJE9YfsbNQ
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“the party that booed God?” Taken out of CONTEXT.
From FAUX NEWS
That’s the BEST YOU GOT?
heeheeheeheeheeheeheeheeheehee
heeheeheeheeheeheeheeheeheehee
heeheeheeheeheeheeheeheeheehee
heeheeheeheeheeheeheeheeheehee
heeheeheeheeheeheeheeheeheehee
heeheeheeheeheeheeheeheeheehee
Uh Huh
Brosephus™
February 5th, 2013
11:50 am
td: I could debate your definition of treason since we have convicted US citizens of treason for nothing more then selling our intelligence secrets to nations that never actually raised arms against us (USSSR) but that is really details.
It’s not MY definition and I stated as much when I posted that definition.
According to the US Constitution:
Section 3.
Treason against the United States, shall consist only in levying War against them, or in adhering to their Enemies, giving them Aid and Comfort.
http://www.usconstitution.net/xconst_A3Sec3.html
Article III Section 3
getalife
February 5th, 2013
11:50 am
It is bizarre reading the remaining cons blindly and mindlessly still fighting for a failed gop out in the wilderness with no leadership but it is what it is.
Thomas Heyward Jr
February 5th, 2013
11:51 am
Stevie Ray..Clowns to the left and Jokers to the right..here I am…
February 5th, 2013
11:38 am
Thomas Heyward Jr
February 5th, 2013
10:46 am
Master and Margerita one of my top 3 favorite books. As you know, the Rolling Stones based “Sympathy for the Devil” on this book. The story behind the book is as fascinating as the book itself.
If you are interested, an exceptional mulit-part series was made a number of years ago..you can google it and watch with english subtitles..
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It’s all about decency dude.
Peace , decency, and non-aggression.
.
Woe………..the weight of the violent Progressives and centralized authority make the people grow weary.
(The Rusk finally got it right).
lol
Cherokee
February 5th, 2013
11:52 am
“It is the individual Christians duty to call out sin when they see it.”
No. It’s not. To quote our next United States Senator, that’s a lie from the pit of hell.
It’s the responsibility of a Christian to take care of the sin in his own life; and let God handle others.
It’s beliefs like yours, td, that are causing young Americans to leave Christianity in droves.
moonbat betty
February 5th, 2013
11:52 am
“I do notice cons posting here have dropped off so I call on those disgruntled cons to join the new majority.”
You fixed them, getalife.
You are the new Lorena (Bobbitt).
Jay
February 5th, 2013
11:53 am
“That Mendendez feller alleged to be with 14 year old Dominican prostitutes is quite a black eye for the his party huh?
“Alleged” by who, exactly? I’m no fan of Menendez. I think his much-belated repayment of costs for his Dominican jaunts with his buddy, and his use of his Senate influence to help that buddy, stink to high heaven based on what we know so far, although the evidence in that regard is not yet conclusive.
The prostitute stuff, if accurate, is even more troubling. But I’ve seen no corroborating evidence for it whatsoever.
Cheesy Grits is gone but not forgotten
February 5th, 2013
11:53 am
“the party that booed God?” Taken out of CONTEXT.
From FAUX NEWS
That’s the BEST YOU GOT?
Your wasting your time. They dont know any better.
Brosephus™
February 5th, 2013
11:53 am
Stevie Ray: I have a problem with the drones inasmuch as we really don’t know how successful they are at getting the bad guys and if the collateral damage near and long term are worth it.
I wonder and worry about collateral damage as well until I recall something said by Gen. William T. Sherman. “War is hell!”
If it were my decision to make, we would have never needed the drones as I would have had B2’s, B52’s, and any other aircraft capable of dropping ordinance flying over the terrorist training camps within hours of them claiming credit for 9/11. I would have turned every bit of sand over there into glass just to show terrorists that the US is the wrong country to mess with.
If you wanna fault somebody, fault Rumsfeld as he’s the one that set us down this path with a f**ked up battle plan.
Moderate Line
February 5th, 2013
11:53 am
Jay
February 5th, 2013
10:27 am
You want Anwar al-Awlaki, the guy who sent the Christmas airline bomber to this country, who pushed Major Hasan to kill fellow soldiers at Fort Hood, who became a regional
++++++
The case against him for Major Hasan was dropped due to a lack of evidence. He was in the UK until 2004.
http://www.denverpost.com/technology/ci_13914150
Regnad Kcin
February 5th, 2013
11:54 am
“Looks like you’ll just have to do the Christian thing and return the other cheek then I reckon”
Why?
“Now now..are you suggesting that hope and faith are not winning strategies to overcome real problems we face?”
Why would you think that?
Stevie Ray..Clowns to the left and Jokers to the right..here I am...
February 5th, 2013
11:54 am
Wow, religion is sure getting a lot of play today. Other than serve a tradition from many families, and success at some of the charitable works (those not offering money in exchange for conversion or being saved), I can’t think of one thing that religion has touched that hasn’t been tarnished at best..
GT
February 5th, 2013
11:54 am
Watching Rove melt down on FOX election night will be one of my happier memories for this life time. That was the first time I realized this guy really believes the wild shots he takes on politics are hitting something. The reason these guys were letting these lies lay out there was to collect more money from the donors. If they had told the Sheldon Adelsons of the world they were losing he would have cut em off. Everybody was using the high ball appraisal that didn’t hold water, including the press to keep the race interesting and sell ad time.
In the meanwhile they compromised the election and the party with their grassroots movement. It was like the communist taking over Russia, common men, big hat no cattle, thinking they had what it takes to be a czar because they had some injustice they wanted restitution for. Men who lacked experience, education, sensitivity and had not paid the price but thought none of that mattered they were entitled. Now the lights are going out and the doors are being shut not because the GOP is against all the hate but because it got so hot they couldn’t control it. You let the kid drive your car and he totaled it.
Anybody read about Ann Coulter’s melt down on that plane because there was a black woman pilot? Man can the GOP pick em. They now have a wing on the nut wing for the really nutty nuts. I mean Hitler didn’t go off his nut like Coulter, the police wouldn’t even hold her, they sent her for mental evaluation.
Aquagirl
February 5th, 2013
11:55 am
They often meet at a dance club after attending church to proclaim how good they be.
Then for good measure they undertip and get the waitresses fired.
http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/sideshow/applebees-waitress-fired-pastor-receipt-193820748.html
Corbin Sharpe. I think, therefore I am...I think.
February 5th, 2013
11:56 am
CHEROKEE…
“It’s beliefs like yours, td, that are causing young Americans to leave Christianity in droves.”
I think td stands for taliban dude…
Uh Huh...The GOP's CHICKENS are coming home to ROOST
February 5th, 2013
11:56 am
@Thulsa Doom
February 5th, 2013
11:46 am
“WHO in GOD’s name APPOINTED you the EXPERT on who HATES their religion?”
And with that Uh Huh goes into his own hypocritical tirade by suggesting RB is a heretic, false prophet, etc. I guess Uh Huh must have APPOINTED himself as the EXPERT on religious heretics and false prophets. Irony…
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Typical CON response.
It is okay when CONS throw stones but when the stones are thrown
back they want to cry FOWL.
Cons need to move out of their GLASS HOUSES.
Uh Huh
moonbat betty
February 5th, 2013
11:56 am
Funny how the maniacal liberal outrage at the Bush policies of drone bombing, torture and wire tapping have evaporated since Obama came into office.
getalife
February 5th, 2013
11:56 am
Our President said we need new revenue so he should free the weed and tax it.
We need a green bubble.
A weed bubble and I would like to invest.
curious
February 5th, 2013
11:56 am
Menendez had a choice between the prostitue and a goat.
He chose the goat. Ergo, the prostitute is spreading false rumors.
Thomas Heyward Jr
February 5th, 2013
11:57 am
Bro——————-you stated———–
“As to his 16 year old son, I don’t agree with targeting him, but if that was my dad, you wouldn’t have caught me within 100 miles of him. I know enough, and knew enough at 16, that being around a person with a target painted on their back was a recipe for disaster and/or death. If it were my decision to make and one of my own family members went to Yemen in support of AQ, I would have no qualms at making the decision to take them out.
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————————————————————————————————————————–
.
Something to think about.
You sons and their offspring will last far longer than any corrupt State.
.
For the sake of decency…………………Please do not buy any guns.
Something went wrong.
yuzeyurbrane
February 5th, 2013
11:57 am
Be careful what you wish for, you might get; you reap what you sow; etc. Couldn’t happen to more deserving folks. Whig Party redux.
Regnad Kcin
February 5th, 2013
11:58 am
“… they want to cry FOWL.
Cons need to move out of their GLASS HOUSES.”
I’ve never actually seen a glass chicken coop…
getalife
February 5th, 2013
11:58 am
moonbat,
Once a President gets new power, there is no turning back.
Presidents never giver back power.
curious
February 5th, 2013
11:58 am
moonbat betty
Funny how the conservatives attitude toward bombing, torture, and wire tapping has changed since Obama took office.
Doggone/GA
February 5th, 2013
11:59 am
“Have you liberals ever stopped to think all these natural disasters you keep blaming on global warming might actually be God trying to get your attention?”
Nope…but then, maybe he’s trying to get YOUR attention. Every thought of THAT?
moonbat betty
February 5th, 2013
11:59 am
“I would have turned every bit of sand over there into glass just to show terrorists that the US is the wrong country to mess with.”
That’s not very liberal of you, Bro.
Thulsa Doom
February 5th, 2013
11:59 am
“the party that booed God?” Taken out of CONTEXT.
Too funny. The “I was taken out of context” card. Hilarious. Sorry sport but the video is pretty clear in and of itself. It is what it is.
“From FAUX NEWS”- wrong again. All the network news stations were covering the same exact convention. The fact that Fox also covered the same event is irrelevant-not to mention a just plain stupid point on your part.
Whining about context? Seriously? “That’s the BEST YOU GOT?”
Stevie Ray..Clowns to the left and Jokers to the right..here I am...
February 5th, 2013
11:59 am
Thomas Heyward Jr
February 5th, 2013
11:51 am
I’m wondering if the target of that particular book, the literary police, will escape our college and public school grounds and become the norm…
Brosephus™
February 5th, 2013
11:53 am
Assigning fault IMO is not helpful. The warmongering and arrogant nature of our culture as shaped and furthered by all administrations is the root cause. Seems every single president feels the need to use the military…often it seems just because we have a 700 billion or so machine….may as well us it right…
DannyX
February 5th, 2013
11:59 am
“From FAUX NEWS
That’s the BEST YOU GOT?”
You have to admit though, the faux outrage was touching, “That’s just plain sick what they’ve become.”
Regnad Kcin
February 5th, 2013
12:00 pm
““Have you liberals ever stopped to think all these natural disasters you keep blaming on global warming might actually be God trying to get your attention?”
By killing innocent people? Why doesn’t he just send a candygram?
You worship a strange and pitiless god, dude…
St Simons - he-ne-ha
February 5th, 2013
12:01 pm
the royalties rate for re-typing words from another entertainment
source is $0.091 per occurrence.
Is the ajc getting this from Premier Radio Networks & Fox?
con posters = revenue stream = win-ning! Thank me later.
moonbat betty
February 5th, 2013
12:01 pm
Curious,
That is funny.
I originally considered posting that the libs were now the cons and the cons were now the libs in regard to Afghan policy, but that would have been too confusing for some.
Cheesy Grits is gone but not forgotten
February 5th, 2013
12:01 pm
Whining about context? Seriously? “That’s the BEST YOU GOT?”
See I told you.
They dont know any better
Thulsa Doom
February 5th, 2013
12:02 pm
“Funny how the maniacal liberal outrage at the Bush policies of drone bombing, torture and wire tapping have evaporated since Obama came into office.”
Yep. And all those anti-war protesters? Where dey at??? Where??? Seems they disappeared about 5 minutes after O was inaugurated. Were they anti-war? Or just anti-Bush? I think their profound absence the last 4 years answers that question.
Cheesy Grits is gone but not forgotten
February 5th, 2013
12:02 pm
“Have you liberals ever stopped to think all these natural disasters you keep blaming on global warming might actually be God trying to get your attention?”
I nominate this for post of the day
Joe Hussein Mama
February 5th, 2013
12:02 pm
R. Kcin — “I’ve never actually seen a glass chicken coop.”
Pheasant under glass?
http://ochef.com/r342.htm
Stevie Ray..Clowns to the left and Jokers to the right..here I am...
February 5th, 2013
12:03 pm
JAY,
Do you ever think about the number of our politicians who have engaged prostitutes, had affairs, misdirected taxpayer cash, and other sordid stuff that never got caught?
Seems all we see is the tip of the iceberg. The fact that our head “intelligence” officer couldn’t keep a lid on his speaks volumes..
Keep Up the Good Fight!
February 5th, 2013
12:03 pm
Kcin, God was going to send a candygram but with the liberals limiting the sizes of a big gulp in NYC, ya know, it got misdirected for exceeding the calorie limit.
Thulsa Doom
February 5th, 2013
12:03 pm
Stevie Ray @ 11:47,
Yes. That is big news. Makes you wonder why they took so long.
Cheesy Grits is gone but not forgotten
February 5th, 2013
12:03 pm
Yep. And all those anti-war protesters? Where dey at??? Where???
The Iraq war is over. The troops have come home
Afghan war is next.
I told you they dont know any better. Especially that one.
GT
February 5th, 2013
12:03 pm
Read this, you can’t make this stuff up!
http://dailycurrant.com/2013/01/29/ann-coulter-refuses-board-airplane-black-pilot/
GT
February 5th, 2013
12:04 pm
Did that make the Atlanta papers?
Regnad Kcin
February 5th, 2013
12:04 pm
“And all those anti-war protesters?”
We’re about done in Iraq, right? THAT was the war that nobody could understand why we were fighting.
I think everyone understands that the Taliban in Afghanistan abetted those who caused 9/11.
Moderate Line
February 5th, 2013
12:05 pm
Brosephus™
February 5th, 2013
11:46 am
Also, everybody involved in making those decisions take an oath of office that includes defending the Constitution.
+++
You can’t claim you are defending something you are ignoring. He was in the US until 2002 and in the UK until 2004. Charges were dropped against him in the FT Hood case for lack of evidence. The Yemen’s actually put him in jail for some time. Yemen’s were trying to take him out . His son was killed in a separate target.
The extradition argument does really work since we did not prosecute him when we could. We could not get him in the courts so we take him out over seas.
http://newsbizarre.com/2009/12/anwar-al-awlaki-dead.html
Cheesy Grits is gone but not forgotten
February 5th, 2013
12:05 pm
http://www.snopes.com/politics/satire/coulter.asp
Is false.
Let the other side make stuff up. They are better at it anyway.
DannyX
February 5th, 2013
12:07 pm
“You worship a strange and pitiless god, dude…”
Indeed Regnad. This God of rb’s lashes out at abortion by creating deadly natural disasters that kill babies!
As Thulsa Doom would say…”That’s just plain sick what they’ve become.”
Thulsa Doom
February 5th, 2013
12:07 pm
“They dont know any better”
Aaaaah. Cheesy the homophobe makes his appearance. And for his next trick he will try to say he was taken out of context regarding homosexuality the other day when he suggested that there is something abnormal about male gay sex. Too fun-knee!
RB from Gwinnett
February 5th, 2013
12:07 pm
the dog, “RB-let’s imagine your bff is recently returned from active duty in Afghanistan. While he was gone, you stole his woman. He just found out and he is majorly pissed. While he was serving, it was determined he was a can short of a 6 pack. Would you like your former bff to undergo a background check?”
Gee, dog, do you think maybe if he’s pissed and knows his “6 pack” diagnosis won’t pass a background check he’ll find whatever weapon he needs from a source that won’t run the check? Kinda like how everybody else who can’t pass the check gets them.
And tell me again how this background check nonsense would have prevented ANY of the mass shootings that prompted this discussion. I seem to have missed even a single one of you liberals answering that question. Why is that?
getalife
February 5th, 2013
12:09 pm
doomy,
The DoJ always moves slow on their cases.
You should know this by now.
Joe Hussein Mama
February 5th, 2013
12:09 pm
GT — “Read this, you can’t make this stuff up!”
Dude, it WAS made up.
Cheesy Grits is gone but not forgotten
February 5th, 2013
12:10 pm
Aaaaah. Cheesy the homophobe makes his appearance. And for his next trick he will try to say he was taken out of context regarding homosexuality the other day when he suggested that there is something abnormal about male gay sex. Too fun-knee!
Never made any such comment and if it showed up as me my name was hijacked.
End of story
Cherokee
February 5th, 2013
12:10 pm
Thanks GT and Cheesy – it is a great story though….
southpaw
February 5th, 2013
12:10 pm
And how do we know td isn’t one (false prophet)?
Deuteronomy 18:22
When a prophet speaks in the name of the Lord, if the thing does not come about or come true, that is the thing which the Lord has not spoken. The prophet has spoken it presumptuously; you shall not be afraid of him.
Maybe I’ve missed a few things lately, but td’s recent writings don’t seem to fit that description.
Cheesy Grits is gone but not forgotten
February 5th, 2013
12:12 pm
Aaaaah. Cheesy the homophobe makes his appearance. And for his next trick he will try to say he was taken out of context regarding homosexuality the other day when he suggested that there is something abnormal about male gay sex. Too fun-knee!
Notice though the skillful deflection.
Anything but stay on subject once you’ve been shown to be a fool.
Just move on to the next little game.
Bravo sir
stands for decibels
February 5th, 2013
12:12 pm
has planks in its own party that endorses the murder of the innocent
“Thou shalt lie thine ass off, for yea, verily, the ends doth justify the means.”
–the Gospel according to TeeDee, 6:9
Thomas Heyward Jr
February 5th, 2013
12:12 pm
Stevie Ray..Clowns to the left and Jokers to the right..here I am…
February 5th, 2013
11:59 am
Thomas Heyward Jr
February 5th, 2013
11:51 am
I’m wondering if the target of that particular book, the literary police, will escape our college and public school grounds and become the norm…
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Do not waste your precious time………………wondering.
Anti-State will be……………..prosecuted.
And is.
the dog
February 5th, 2013
12:12 pm
RB-what are you afraid of, that you wouldn’t pass a background check like your hero Lapierre wouldn’t pass a background check? I just don’t understand how someone that supposedly served his country in the military is able to give all the chicken hawks and lapierre a pass knowing they cheated the system to get out of serving. Candy asses, the lot of them.
getalife
February 5th, 2013
12:12 pm
GT,
Sounds like bs.
Thulsa Doom
February 5th, 2013
12:13 pm
“I think everyone understands that the Taliban in Afghanistan abetted those who caused 9/11.”
Regnad and cheesy,
Really? Ya’ll make up your mind. So now the Afgh war was the “just” war. Well now if that’s the case then how do you guys explain the numerous posts over the years on here from Dim posters? You know? The ones that constantly complained about W getting us into “2″ wars that weren’t on the books. And yes. Every single time they complained they didn’t complain about 1 unfunded war. They complained about 2 unfunded wars. How many times did we see that complaint about “2″ unfunded wars? You guys do remember all that right? Right? But now you’re claiming that 1 of them was “the right war”. Jeez you guys are hilarious.
stands for decibels
February 5th, 2013
12:13 pm
the party that booed God at their convention
Another believer in the Gospel according to TeeDee, I see.
Cheesy Grits is gone but not forgotten
February 5th, 2013
12:14 pm
Candy asses, the lot of them.
Chicken Hawks I call them
They are all for fighting wars.
So long as they dont have to actually do the fighting.
Stevie Ray..Clowns to the left and Jokers to the right..here I am...
February 5th, 2013
12:15 pm
Thulsa Doom
February 5th, 2013
12:03 pm
Moving slow as they tried to settle without litigation and result was to take civil action vs criminal action…cop out IMO. They appear only to be going after S&P but others did the same thing…the dealers packaged up a pig as a lark, the ratings agencies made little if any effort to remove the package, and AIG an others, based on ratings, offered insurance at 2% of deal value.
Had the rating agencies took time and were not rushed by bundlers…and performed diligence down to the ugly tranches, some of the bailouts could have been avoided, particularly AIG….
Thulsa Doom
February 5th, 2013
12:15 pm
“Anything but stay on subject once you’ve been shown to be a fool.”
Cheesy,
You haven’t shown anybody to be a fool. And no.- counting yourself doesn’t count.
Joe Hussein Mama
February 5th, 2013
12:15 pm
Doom — “So now the Afgh war was the “just” war. Well now if that’s the case then how do you guys explain the numerous posts over the years on here from Dim posters? You know? The ones that constantly complained about W getting us into “2″ wars that weren’t on the books. And yes. Every single time they complained they didn’t complain about 1 unfunded war.”
Are you really asking to have this distinction explained to you?
You really can’t see the difference here?
Are you for real?
Brosephus™
February 5th, 2013
12:15 pm
Something to think about.
You sons and their offspring will last far longer than any corrupt State.
.
For the sake of decency…………………Please do not buy any guns.
Something went wrong.
Too late… I already own several guns. Thanks for the advice though.
Buzz Belle
February 5th, 2013
12:16 pm
Did anybody catch the story about the military being involved in yesterday’s rescue of the 5 yr old in Alabama? Possibly drones. Since when did the military get involved in law enforcement? I’m curious as to your take on this.
Brosephus™
February 5th, 2013
12:16 pm
betty: That’s not very liberal of you, Bro.
Hence why you never hear me call myself liberal.
Thulsa Doom
February 5th, 2013
12:17 pm
“Had the rating agencies took time and were not rushed by bundlers…and performed diligence down to the ugly tranches, some of the bailouts could have been avoided, particularly AIG….”
Indeed.
Cheesy Grits is gone but not forgotten
February 5th, 2013
12:17 pm
Frankly Thulsa I have engaged you in the past.
I wont make that mistake again.
You are frankly not my equal and not worth my time.
Ill take my leave of you now.
Cheesy Grits is gone but not forgotten
February 5th, 2013
12:19 pm
Too late… I already own several guns. Thanks for the advice though.
Please for all of our safety turn them into the police today.
Ill give you a ride if you need one.
Aquagirl
February 5th, 2013
12:19 pm
Are you really asking to have this distinction explained to you?
Of course he’s asking….Trolls are always hungry.
Escaped from Email Purgatory
February 5th, 2013
12:19 pm
Yep. Losing to an incumbent President with as sorry a record as Obama’s will cause you to rethink your paradigm.
It doesn’t take a heckuva lot to make some people happy. The GOP is in disarray! Yeeeehaaa!
Thulsa Doom
February 5th, 2013
12:21 pm
Joe Mama,
I see the difference quite clearly. What I’m pointing out is that in post after post over the past years libs on here have constantly criticized W for “getting us involved in 2 wars”. So ya’ll need to make up your minds. Is the Afgh war the “good, just” war or not? And if it was the “good, just” war then why the repeated complaints over the years from libs about W getting us involved in 2 wars if one of them was supposedly the good war. Seems cheesy and regnad are trying to have it both ways.
RB from Gwinnett
February 5th, 2013
12:21 pm
Hey Doom, have you noticed there isn’t a single liberal poster on this board who EVER defends God? Not one. Ever.
Thomas Heyward Jr
February 5th, 2013
12:21 pm
Brosephus™
February 5th, 2013
12:15 pm
Something to think about.
You sons and their offspring will last far longer than any corrupt State.
.
For the sake of decency…………………Please do not buy any guns.
Something went wrong.
Too late… I already own several guns. Thanks for the advice though.
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I pray for your offspring who might……………………..be agaisnt…………………the State.
(or whomever Axelrod , Obama,Karl Rove, or Goldman Saches……. chooses).;
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Seig Heil!
GT
February 5th, 2013
12:22 pm
So Ann Coulter is not a bigot, who knew? I was wondering why it was not in the news here. Kind of like that Supreme Court decision on Obamacare, with FOX, should have check it out first.
Thulsa Doom
February 5th, 2013
12:22 pm
“Trolls are always hungry.”
Which is why Aquasilly comes on every day to get her daily helping of raw red meat for the kooks.
комисса́р (Occupation)
February 5th, 2013
12:22 pm
RB from Gwinnett: “When are the few Christians left in the Democrat party going to wake up and realize the majority of their party hates their religion?”
Jay’s leanings are avowedly pro-Democratic. And the Democratic party is a war-happy party. So, I guess it’s fairly consistent.
Stevie Ray..Clowns to the left and Jokers to the right..here I am...
February 5th, 2013
12:23 pm
THULSA,
Also there has been intense political pressure lately but apparently, the criminal filings against those in Wall Street and Telecom promised by BO were not fulfilled in first term.
Heck, Goldman Sachs sold the packaged deals to clients then bet against them knowing the subject packages were toxic…Too bad Goldman controls all branches of our government including BO..
Thomas Heyward Jr
February 5th, 2013
12:24 pm
Their own father.
Aquagirl
February 5th, 2013
12:25 pm
there isn’t a single liberal poster on this board who EVER defends God?
We’re too lazy to reach across the table and smack someone in the face. There’s also that whole table-manners thing.
Cherokee
February 5th, 2013
12:26 pm
God is doing just fine on His own, RB – it’s his so called followers who frighten sensible people.
Thomas Heyward Jr
February 5th, 2013
12:27 pm
a heartfelt ……sigh……………for decency and compassion.
.
A……. hurrah………. for Darwinism.
the dog
February 5th, 2013
12:27 pm
Trolls for Jeebus has a certain ring to do does it not?
stands for decibels
February 5th, 2013
12:27 pm
there isn’t a single liberal poster on this board who EVER defends God?
I think you have God confused with Tinkerbell.
Moderate Line
February 5th, 2013
12:28 pm
Jay
February 5th, 2013
10:09 am
“The statement is false. Securities and Investment ranks is the second largest contributor to Republicans. Also note that it was 10th for Dems. The total for Rep was $24 million and for Dems was 6 million.”
No, Moderate. The statement is true.
First of all, the numbers that you cite include only direct donations to presidential campaigns. They do not include donations to the parties themselves, to Senate campaigns, to House campaigns and most importantly, secret donations to SuperPACS, such as Rove’s, that spent hundreds of millions.
You also point out that “securities and investment” ranked as only the second most generous category to Mitt Romney’s campaign, implying I was wrong because it wasn’t listed first. It wasn’t first only because the largest category was “retired.”
Among interest groups, S&I was easily the most generous to Romney in raw numbers. In relative numbers, that industry gave four times as much to Romney as to Obama.
“Miscellaneous Finance” also gave almost four to one to Romney. Oil and gas gave nine times as much to Romney; hedge funds and private equity gave to Romney by five to one.
Again, my statement is accurate.
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“Secret donations to SuperPACS.” You don’t have your A game today. If they are secret how do you know where they are coming from. And you have the nerve to call other peoples statements ludicrous.
The Dems racked up 32% from “Finance/Insurance/Real Estate” to the Republicans 68%.
It is not listed first because “retired” is list first. Well usually when something is not first it is because something else is first. I will give you the firm grasp of the obvious award on that. I contend that retired finance the Republicans. At least it is first. There is more support of that statements. Also, maybe “secret donations” from the aviation industry supported Republicans.
http://www.opensecrets.org/industries/totals.php?cycle=2012&ind=F
JamVet
February 5th, 2013
12:29 pm
The concept of god can be useful.
But religious dogma with it’s saviors and circles of hell where unbelievers are tortured forever? It is little more than institutionalized insanity.
And as a method of human redemption…. useless.
/drive by/
Stevie Ray..Clowns to the left and Jokers to the right..here I am...
February 5th, 2013
12:30 pm
So being frightened of guns, after hearing about all the concern I should have about 4-5 masked gunmen breaking into my home, undoubtedly to steal my original PRS 24 fret guitar, I decided I best protect myself and guitar…so I bought an automatic weapon..
No background check or waiting period..
It’s called a supersoaker and it is filled with human uring and resides at bedside at all times…Oh the comfort it provides..
комисса́р (Occupation)
February 5th, 2013
12:30 pm
RB from Gwinnett: “there isn’t a single liberal poster on this board who EVER defends God”
Only an atheist can truly defend God.
Because only an atheist has truly plumbed his nothingness.
Brosephus™
February 5th, 2013
12:30 pm
Stevie Ray: Assigning fault IMO is not helpful. The warmongering and arrogant nature of our culture as shaped and furthered by all administrations is the root cause.
If I remember correctly, our actions against the training camps in Afghanistan were a response to being attacked on 9/11 in NYC. As the Secretary of Defense, Rumsfeld was the top of the chain of command when it came to planning a military response to that attack. We should have wiped the training camps off the face of the earth and left the country. Such a plan would not have us in Afghanistan 10 years later. The Sec. of Def failed miserably IMHO, and the blame is justly qualified to place on his shoulders for that.
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Moderate Line: You can’t claim you are defending something you are ignoring. He was in the US until 2002 and in the UK until 2004.
And just because you’re an American, you can’t go spouting off crap and supporting people who are trying to kill your own countrymen without some kind of response. You can claim he’s ignoring the Constitution, but if he were actually doing such, he would have already been impeached, right? Claiming something doesn’t make it fact. Publishing anti-American propaganda within the confines of a terrorist organization doesn’t help your cause if you’re trying to claim American citizenship.
As for his 16 year old son, you learn very quickly in the hood to be careful of the company you keep. I’m still alive today because I didn’t hang with people that were most likely to end up dead in a shootout or stabbing, even if that meant staying away from family. At some point, you have to own up to your own actions and quit hiding behind the idea of being ignorant to what’s going on around you. I feel bad for the loss of their child, but at the same time, had he been in America or somewhere where Americans are not plotting to kill Americans, he would likely still be alive today.
Moderate Line
February 5th, 2013
12:31 pm
Brosephus™
February 5th, 2013
11:53 am
Stevie Ray: I have a problem with the drones inasmuch as we really don’t know how successful they are at getting the bad guys and if the collateral damage near and long term are worth it.
I wonder and worry about collateral damage as well until I recall something said by Gen. William T. Sherman. “War is hell!”
If it were my decision to make, we would have never needed the drones as I would have had B2’s, B52’s, and any other aircraft capable of dropping ordinance flying over the terrorist training camps within hours of them claiming credit for 9/11. I would have turned every bit of sand over there into glass just to show terrorists that the US is the wrong country to mess with.
If you wanna fault somebody, fault Rumsfeld as he’s the one that set us down this path with a f**ked up battle plan.
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So you really don’t have problem killing innocent children. Make up your mind.
Stevie Ray..Clowns to the left and Jokers to the right..here I am...
February 5th, 2013
12:31 pm
JamVet
February 5th, 2013
12:29 pm
What exactly does this “god” look like that everyone is discussing?
Frederick Douglass
February 5th, 2013
12:32 pm
RB from Gwinnett @ 10:04 am
Some of these gun related tragedies could be curtailed if certain parents would keep an eye on little Thomas Ethan Hedgeworth III and stop protecting him when they know he’s bonkers, and stop focusing on what Quintavious Watkins is up to in the hood.
Cheesy Grits is gone but not forgotten
February 5th, 2013
12:33 pm
What exactly does this “god” look like that everyone is discussing?’
Think white robes. A man. Certainly white. White hair
Floating around in the clouds granting wishes to those that wish hard enough.
Thulsa Doom
February 5th, 2013
12:33 pm
“Too bad Goldman controls all branches of our government including BO..”
Goldman was in fact Obama’s single largest campaign contributor in 08- a fact lost on most Dems. To be fair though Wall St. has been corrupting both parties for a long time.
Keep Up the Good Fight!
February 5th, 2013
12:34 pm
Aquagirl, it them scummy trolls used the straw men they are always creating, you would think they would be full of something more than excrement.
Regnad Kcin
February 5th, 2013
12:34 pm
“how do you guys explain the numerous posts over the years on here from Dim posters?”
Mr. Doom, don’t you think it’s silly to ask me to explain positions you acknowlege I do not hold? You’re very silly, sometimes.
stands for decibels
February 5th, 2013
12:34 pm
What exactly does this “god” look like that everyone is discussing?
Depends on who you ask, I guess. It would appear that RB’s Supreme Being is lacking in self esteem and needs to win a trophy for showing up.
Joe Hussein Mama
February 5th, 2013
12:35 pm
Doom — “I see the difference quite clearly.”
I don’t think you do. It’s quite clear to me that you’re conflating two different criticisms.
“What I’m pointing out is that in post after post over the past years libs on here have constantly criticized W for “getting us involved in 2 wars”. So ya’ll need to make up your minds.”
Actually, you need to stop misrepresenting the criticisms we have.
“Is the Afgh war the “good, just” war or not?”
IMO, yes.
“And if it was the “good, just” war then why the repeated complaints over the years from libs about W getting us involved in 2 wars if one of them was supposedly the good war.”
Again, you’re conflating two different criticisms.
Criticism #1: Just or Unjust
Criticism #2: Paid for on-budget, or paid for off-budget
Both wars fail Criticism #2, having been paid for off-budget. Criticizing either one (or both) is perfectly justified on this score, and is supported by documentation (e.g. Emergency Supplemental spending measures authorized by Congress).
However, many of us (I won’t say most as there are Democrats who are opposed to both wars) *also* criticize Iraq as being an unjust war. Saddam Hussein had, by the time we invaded, allowed UN inspectors free access to wherever they wanted to go. He turned out not to be hiding any of the items or programs we had accused him of, and in several cases, stuff we supposedly “found” has been found after we removed UN inspectors’ seals — meaning that even if we weren’t aware of it, the UN was. In short, the main reason we were given for the invasion turned out to be wrong. You can blame whoever you want to for that, but facts are facts; he didn’t have anything we thought he did.
You seem to be upset that many of us give Afghanistan a pass on the Just/Unjust argument but that we still come down on it for being off-budget.
Shrug. What are you looking for here? Something to agree with? It’s a matter of historical fact that neither war was paid for on-budget. And it’s a matter of historical fact that OBL was hiding out in Afghanistan on or around 9/11.
“Seems cheesy and regnad are trying to have it both ways.”
No, there’s just a distinction there that you’re not getting. Whether you’re willingly or unintentionally conflating the two, I don’t know.
Stevie Ray..Clowns to the left and Jokers to the right..here I am...
February 5th, 2013
12:35 pm
Brosephus™
February 5th, 2013
12:30 pm
That’s all good an well and you can lay blame if that is important to you…I’m wondering how many Koreans or Vietnamese innocents were wiped out per bad guy?
I’m not sure how many training camps we blew up and certainly have no problem with that, but seems once we ran out of such obvious targets, the collateral damage soared.
For the record, I do support whatever torture is needed if it is to directly protect our shores….medivel…whatever.
getalife
February 5th, 2013
12:36 pm
You have the gop establishment vs their con base.
Let their civil war rage.
Let the gop disband again.
It is a worthless party for the majority of the American people.
Regnad Kcin
February 5th, 2013
12:36 pm
“Hey Doom, have you noticed there isn’t a single liberal poster on this board who EVER defends God? Not one. Ever”
RB, why do you think god needs your defense?
illyushin
February 5th, 2013
12:37 pm
Doom – 12:21
Neither of these wars should have happened. Bush made a half-hearted attempt to get Bin Laden in Afghanistan and only succeeded in getting us bogged down in an unwinnable war. In Iraq, he attempted to fulfill Bible prophecy and only managed to cause us to lose large amounts of blood and treasure.
He did a credit card kind of finance for these wars insuring that neither Obama or any other President will be able to bring down the debt and that this and future generations will be saddled with the bill.
All in all, far and away the worst President in US history.
RB from Gwinnett
February 5th, 2013
12:37 pm
What do you suppose the gun haters of 300 years ago ate for dinner in this country?
And what happened to the liberals of that day when there was no government handout to feed them? Do you think they got off their arse and worked for their own survival or did they cul themselves from the herd?
Joe Hussein Mama
February 5th, 2013
12:38 pm
S. Ray — “Too bad Goldman controls all branches of our government including BO.”
The three branches of government:
Money
Television
Bulls**t
– P. J. O’Rourke
Keep Up the Good Fight!
February 5th, 2013
12:38 pm
Sure are a lot of “lost” facts posted by the birthers, dawners, skeeters, and ODS’ers. the clownish who claim conspiracies without evidence “because they know” love to claim “facts lost” out of context
captguitarman
February 5th, 2013
12:38 pm
Wow! I thought the full moon occurred last week. Quite a few “interesting” posts today. The seeds of Rove’s new organization were planted in 2010 when Christine O’Donnell, backed by the Tea Party, won the Pub/Con nomination, pushing their shoo-in candidate for the Senate seat out of the picture. After a “brilliant” campaign performance, O’Donnell lost the seat. And a good chance at knocking off Reid was lost in Nevada because of another “brilliant” performance by a Tea Party candidate. Then 2012 happened, and despite the 3% + “mandate” won by Obama, the Pub/Cons would have retained Lugar’s senate seat (the ditching of Lugar caused big alarm bells to go off in traditional Pub/Con land) and with a good candidate, would have won a seat in Missouri. Unfortunately, two more “brilliant” campaign performances were turned in by the Tea Party candidates, and both seats were lost.
And, while all that was going on, from early 2012 up until the convention, Mitt Romney had to crawl through fire on his hands and knees through broken glass “debating” again and again with a completely underwhelming group of would be presidential nominees, who had no prayer of getting the nomination, but thought it was pretty cool to be running for president and getting all that attention for every goofy idea they could come up with, and making Romney deal with it. Many of the debates were more comical than anything else. Luckily, only one of the female nitwits ran while the other one went back to Alaska, or it would have been even worse. Meanwhile, Obama sat and waited, licking his chops.
This has to be fixed some how. It will not be easy, and it may be ugly, and it may take some time. It is good that it is at least now being addressed by traditional Pub/Cons. The Dem/Libs went through this back when the loony left hijacked the party under McGovern, and it was not until Bill Clinton showed up that the ship was fully righted. Whether the “We would rather be “right” than win elections and participate and compromise, and actually influence the political process” Tea Party/Libertarians and right wingnuts can be persuaded to change gears or not, and how soon, remains to be seen.
The “wild card” is that feeling their oats, the Dem/Libs will push ahead with Obama’s left wing manifesto, as outlined during the inauguration speech. He only won the election by 3% + so there will be some tough sledding to impose it. If those policies, particularly the center piece that no entitlement will suffer or be reformed or reduced, including he new Mother of All Entitlements now taking effect, regardless of how large the debt grows and he annual deficits grow, there could be a day or economic reckoning that will change everything. The next Dem/Lib candidate will not get a free pass on the economy and unemployment like Obama did.
комисса́р (Occupation)
February 5th, 2013
12:39 pm
Stevie Ray: “For the record, I do support whatever torture is needed if it is to directly protect our shores….medivel…whatever.”
Then you might as well support it all of the time.
Aquagirl
February 5th, 2013
12:39 pm
No, there’s just a distinction there that you’re not getting. Whether you’re willingly or unintentionally conflating the two, I don’t know.
Oh it’s entirely unintentional of course and if you can just ’splain it all Doomy would be ever so grateful.
illyushin
February 5th, 2013
12:40 pm
RB
Maybe when you can furnish us testable evidence that a God exists,
we might consider defending Him/Her.
getalife
February 5th, 2013
12:40 pm
rb,
It is 2013.
Join the real world con.
Stevie Ray..Clowns to the left and Jokers to the right..here I am...
February 5th, 2013
12:40 pm
Cheesy Grits is gone but not forgotten
February 5th, 2013
12:33 pm
Always an interesting question to pose when I’m asked if I believe in such…
stands for decibels
February 5th, 2013
12:34 pm
Classic! Arrogance is often the result of individual or group lack of self esteem. The social threats to organized religion are very scary to many. That being said…I’m equally as scared of those evangelicals who continue to keep ancient life alive…
Thulsa Doom
February 5th, 2013
12:41 pm
RB from Gwinnett
February 5th, 2013
12:21 pm
Hey Doom, have you noticed there isn’t a single liberal poster on this board who EVER defends God? Not one. Ever.
RB,
I think you set them up and they went for the bait cause they’re certainly proving your point with all the posts mocking God. They’re like trained seals. Kinda sad though to see so many of them so hateful towards God. No wonder they have so much hate on here everyday. They even hate God. This is just sad.
Joe Hussein Mama
February 5th, 2013
12:42 pm
RB — “And what happened to the liberals of that day”
Just FYI, RB, the “liberals of that day” were the ones coming up with the radical notion of government Of The People, By The People and For The People.
The *conservatives* of that day were too busy kissing the King’s patootie to notice what the libs were doing until it was too late.
On behalf of libs everywhere, past and present, you’re welcome.
Regnad Kcin
February 5th, 2013
12:42 pm
“Joe Hussein Mama
February 5th, 2013
12:35 pm’
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Thanks, JHM – you saved me from having to do a similar post.
I think Mr. Doom knows all that, though – he just likes to see if he can score points by baffling folks, instead of by having a real point.
Not that there’s anything wrong with that…
Stevie Ray..Clowns to the left and Jokers to the right..here I am...
February 5th, 2013
12:42 pm
комисса́р (Occupation)
February 5th, 2013
12:39 pm
Nope, our shores are not directly threatened by many of those subject to it…look a Abugrabe (sp?)….
Corbin Sharpe. I think, therefore I am...I think.
February 5th, 2013
12:43 pm
RB,
I’ve stated many times on this blog that I believe there’s a God/creator responsible for all of this. What I have never defended and will spend my life trying to tear down is “religion”. Religion is an unnecessary by product of man trying to define and shape God to his own will. Religions of all stripe are teachers of intolerance and narrow thinking. There is nothing about religion that is good for the human race. You do not need religion to worship God. In fact, going directly to the source has always worked for me. Remember that your own Bible warns about putting yourself above God.
Cheesy Grits is gone but not forgotten
February 5th, 2013
12:43 pm
And what happened to the liberals of that day when there was no government handout to feed them? Do you think they got off their arse and worked for their own survival or did they cul themselves from the herd?
Im a liberal. The founding fathers were liberals.
I dont get any handout from the government
Do you ?
Buzz Belle
February 5th, 2013
12:43 pm
JHM – 12:35
I am a democrat and yes, you have summarized my feelings on both wars, EXACTLY. I also beleive that most democrats would agree with your answer to Thulsa Doom. The questions is, will Thulsa Doom understand it?
Stevie Ray..Clowns to the left and Jokers to the right..here I am...
February 5th, 2013
12:44 pm
Thulsa Doom
February 5th, 2013
12:41 pm
What is your definition of God if you care to share it? Something traditional of more personal?
Get Real
February 5th, 2013
12:44 pm
Here’s hoping there is anything left after 4 more years now that Obama has completely come out of the liberal/progressive closet…like there was ever a doubt
Thulsa Doom
February 5th, 2013
12:44 pm
“I’m equally as scared of those evangelicals who continue to keep ancient life alive…”
So what’s so scary about evangelicals? Is there a fear that they are going to handcuff people and drag them kicking and screaming to church?
the dog
February 5th, 2013
12:44 pm
God is disappointed in so many people today, she is especially critical of RB, td, doomy, etc. Poor God.
Prove otherwise.
Moderate Line
February 5th, 2013
12:45 pm
Brosephus™
February 5th, 2013
12:30 pm
As for his 16 year old son, you learn very quickly in the hood to be careful of the company you keep.
Your right so a high ranking intelligence official has the right to kill you based on who you hang out with. And just because you’re an American, you can’t go spouting off crap and supporting people who are trying to kill your own countrymen without some kind of response.
Well maybe your right. I thought I could because the constitution protected speech but maybe that right is suspended as soon as go to a foreign country with no extradition treaty.
You can claim he’s ignoring the Constitution, but if he were actually doing such, he would have already been impeached, right?
Not really. Congress is not going to impeach anyone. Only two presidents have been impeach. Are you going to tell me Roosevelt rounding the Japanese Americans was constitution because he didn’t get impeach. Or that Jackson’s action against the Cherokee’s was constitutional because he was not impeached.
Publishing anti-American propaganda within the confines of a terrorist organization doesn’t help your cause if you’re trying to claim American citizenship.
He did not claim it. He was an American citizen.
I feel bad for the loss of their child, but at the same time, had he been in America or somewhere where Americans are not plotting to kill Americans, he would likely still be alive today.
So your argument is if someone like yourself was just waking to the store and there was a drive by and you got shot when you were 16 it would be your fault and should not care because I was not in the hood and you should have left.
комисса́р (Occupation)
February 5th, 2013
12:46 pm
captguitarman:
“The “wild card” is that feeling their oats, the Dem/Libs will push ahead with Obama’s left wing manifesto, as outlined during the inauguration speech”
Wait, you just got through saying that the Democratic party had ‘recovered’ from its takeover by the ‘loony left’ under McGovern and that its recovery happened under Bill Clinton. But Barack Obama “out-Clintons” Bill Clinton every morning 500 times before he even makes it out for his daily jog. So that’s not making much sense.
How can Barack Obama, who is the living embodiment, the culmination and absolute triumph, of every conceivable anti-McGovernite tendency in the Democratic party, have a “left wing manifesto” in anything but vague rhetorical gestures?
MANGLER
February 5th, 2013
12:46 pm
When others feel disenfranchised or under represented from the parties in power, they form new parties with new identities. Rove and the like talk down of such 3rd tier parties, and yet here he is doing just that, again! At least other people are decent enough to give the fledgling parties new names and identities. He’s just recycling the name GOP and fracturing his own party. If he truly wants to distance himself and his funds from those he doesn’t like in the GOP, then he should start a new party. Name suggestions?
liberal hack
February 5th, 2013
12:46 pm
Captguitar man, I disagree, Obama ran on a progressive gov’t agenda favored by McGovern, expand the role of gov’t and increase taxes on the wealthy, down size the military, and expand social services..Sam Donaldson from ABC news said such things during Obama’s reelection. The Democrat party is not a center left party, it is a left/extreme left party.
Stevie Ray..Clowns to the left and Jokers to the right..here I am...
February 5th, 2013
12:47 pm
Corbin Sharpe. I think, therefore I am…I think.
February 5th, 2013
12:43 pm
Amen…no pun intended. Historically, individaul beliefs in higher power(s)are not the issue. The issue IMO as well is organized religion…pretty much destroyed most of what they touch…Funny how our countries evangelical approach to spreading the gospel of our democracy is a mirror of that of many of the most frequented religions.
KEITH
February 5th, 2013
12:47 pm
An example of warped liberal intellect. Judge Cynthia Brim.
Brim, 54, was diagnosed years ago with a bipolar type of schizoaffective disorder, which means she experiences delusions and hallucinations, psychiatrist Mathew Markos testified. The symptoms can be kept in check with medication, he testified.
Brim’s November re-election campaign was backed by the Cook County Democratic Party as well as the Committee for Retention of Judges in Cook County, a campaign committee funded by judges. Judges need 60 percent of the vote to be retained; failing to meet that mark is rare.
So liberals are A-OK with crazy judges. You cannot make this stuff up. Liberals are really weird.
CC
February 5th, 2013
12:48 pm
“its okay for a state to have one party control? You feel a one party state is good for the state?”
Was it OK when the dimocrats had one-party control for 150 years?
Cherokee
February 5th, 2013
12:48 pm
Doom I’ve seen how you respond to people speaking truth, so I know you won’t admit your error here either. But no one – not one person I’ve seen anyway – is ‘mocking’ God.
Some don’t believe in Him, others want proof. But to call that ‘mocking’ is simply false.
And that concept – bearing false witness – is dealt with quite a bit in Scriptures…
Now, mocking people who claim to be Christians in spite of the fact that their spiritual guides are the Pharisees of old? Sure…. guilty as charged.
Lynnie Gal
February 5th, 2013
12:49 pm
Businesses are abandoning the GOP because the GOP is bad for business. All the cliff hanging and uncertainty they are creating with our economy is biting the butt off of businesses and consumers alike. This latest move by Rove just shows that the GOP’s Corporate Masters are calling them back, but the conservative TP attack dogs are untrained, unleashed and thirsty for the blood of the poor, the elderly,the children and the middle class workers. The GOP stoked this vicious group of ignorant, hate-filled racists to try to bring down Obama and it backfired. Now they have a big problem on their hands.
the dog
February 5th, 2013
12:49 pm
Keith-the money quote:
The symptoms can be kept in check with medication, he testified.
But would you sell her an AK-type gun?
Moderate Line
February 5th, 2013
12:49 pm
Some interesting comments from the left. Torturing non-Americans wrong. Violates their human rights. Drone attacks killing American citizens authorized by high ranking intelligence official ok.
Essentially, Obama is carrying out Bush’s policies on terrorist.
This has been entertaining. Cya
KEITH
February 5th, 2013
12:50 pm
No voter fraud huh?
Fulton County’s interim elections director denies her staff tampered with polling records by adding dozens of voters’ names to tally sheets last year. It wasn’t fraud, Sharon Mitchell says, but correcting mistakes.
But Secretary of State Brian Kemp maintains the county’s actions were likely illegal. Not only did the department’s missteps cause more people to use paper ballots than the entire rest of the state combined, Kemp says the county also mishandled those ballots in the aftermath and may have counted some votes twice.
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
February 5th, 2013
12:50 pm
“As I understand it, it is the individual Christian’s duty to worry about that individual Christian’s own sin, not that of others.”
And your “understanding” would be wrong:
Luke 7:43
“Simon answered, “The one, I suppose, for whom he cancelled the larger debt.” And he (Jesus) said to him, “You have judged rightly.”
http://www.biblebelievers.com/jmelton/Judging.html
http://www.mountainretreatorg.net/articles/judging.html
liberal hack
February 5th, 2013
12:51 pm
the only way you are not going to be hit with a tax increase in this country will be if you make 40,000 or less. At some point, the Democrats are going to pass income tax increases on those who make 200,000. They already passed a .9% Medicare tax on those making 200,000. Pretty soon the Democrats are going to want more money to spend and they are going to go after those who make 100,000. It’s just a matter of time. In fact, Jay thinks taxes need to go up on everyone. And except for paying doctor’s and cutting military, He wants an expansion of gov’t spending.
Keep Up the Good Fight!
February 5th, 2013
12:52 pm
Who’s really mocking God…those who claim that God does certain acts to send political messages to a group that the poster does not agree with or those who mock the poster for mocking God. Why do cons mock God? Why are cons too foolish to understand they are the ones mocking God?
Stevie Ray..Clowns to the left and Jokers to the right..here I am...
February 5th, 2013
12:53 pm
Thulsa Doom
February 5th, 2013
12:44 pm
Evangelicals scare me because they lay waste to the concept of separation of church and state number one. Number 2 is that the whole concept of selling dogma on others and/or discriminating due to conflicting beliefs have no good outcomes….
We have freedom of and from religion except..the evangelical quest is to convert as many as possible….I also don’t like vacuum cleaner salesfolks knocking on my door.
Matti
February 5th, 2013
12:53 pm
“Hey Doom, have you noticed there isn’t a single liberal poster on this board who EVER defends God? Not one. Ever.”
Does the Omnipotent need defending?
I believe in God. I just don’t believe arrogant, hateful, self-serving men when they ’splain God to me in the context of judging me or trying to run my life. See, believing what such a man says about God requires more than a belief in God; it requires a belief that such men actually (a) have the capacity to understand one as great as God, and (b) are capable of telling the truth if they knew it.
The faith required to believe such men is far greater than the faith required to believe that there is a being superior to mortal humans.
Escaped from Email Purgatory
February 5th, 2013
12:54 pm
@captguitarman
A mouth breather such as myself rarely taxes his modest attention span on posted comments over 25 words – it’s tough enough for me to be still long enough to read Bookman’s blogs that spawn the comments in the first place.
If my butt was bigger, I’d tatoo your comments on it. That’s high praise – believe it or not. Maybe I’ll paint it on the side of my house – the HOA can pound sand.
Great perspective on the current state of national politics.
Maybe your thesis (to some extent) is that Obama didn’t win the 2012 election. The GOP lost it.
getalife
February 5th, 2013
12:55 pm
fox fired palin but rehired rove so fox tossed you cons under the bus and will support the gop establishment with propaganda.
They are trying to kill the con monster they created.
These are great blogging times.
Keep Up the Good Fight!
February 5th, 2013
12:55 pm
ooooh Keith says there was “voter fraud”. But GA has a ID requirement. So what happened, Keith? Perhaps those were not the “frauds” you should have been looking for?
Thulsa Doom
February 5th, 2013
12:55 pm
Stevie Ray,
I believe in the more traditional God but I sure as hell don’t think of an old white man with a flowing beard. And I think there are numerous misconceptions about what the Bible truly says on a number of things. I’m certainly no fan of organized religion either which I think can be as destructive and ruinous a force as anything.
God to me is an infinite intelligence or an infinite force. Looking at it from the purely natural world perspective I see a design in everything and I don’t see how any of the wondrous things of our natural world can be just an accident. There is a design and purpose to everything.
And I used to be agnostic bordering on atheistic until I actually started looking at the whole God/no God debate. Seems to me that once you get past the misreadings of what people think (such as the truth about hell)that God is logical and rational even if the Bible was written with the simpleton people of its time in mind.
Keep Up the Good Fight!
February 5th, 2013
12:56 pm
Matti, you were much nicer than I was
KEITH
February 5th, 2013
1:01 pm
Keith-the money quote:
The symptoms can be kept in check with medication, he testified.
But would you sell her an AK-type gun?
Liberals are so predictable. I was waiting for one of you to try that. So I saved another money quote just for you. LOL
“She made the choice, despite numerous hospitalizations, to go off her medications,” Assistant State’s Attorney Maria Burnett said.
No I would not sell any liberal any type of gun. With gun ownership comes responsibility and liberals have proven to be very irresponsible.
Joe Hussein Mama
February 5th, 2013
1:03 pm
KEITH — “No I would not sell any liberal any type of gun. With gun ownership comes responsibility and liberals have proven to be very irresponsible.”
Refuse to sell me another firearm for that stated reason and you’d find yourself on the losing side of a civil suit, Keith.
Corbin Sharpe. I think, therefore I am...I think.
February 5th, 2013
1:03 pm
Matti, Keep and any others who might be interested…
Welcome to the “Freedom from Religion Foundation”
“The history of Western civilization shows us that most social and moral progress has been brought about by persons free from religion. In modern times the first to speak out for prison reform, for humane treatment of the mentally ill, for abolition of capital punishment, for women’s right to vote, for death with dignity for the terminally ill, and for the right to choose contraception, sterilization and abortion have been freethinkers, just as they were the first to call for an end to slavery. The Foundation works as an umbrella for those who are free from religion and are committed to the cherished principle of separation of state and church.”
KEITH
February 5th, 2013
1:03 pm
Its Fulton County. Hotbed of liberal voter fraud. You have liberals enforning or NOT enforcing the laws according to how to best help themselves.
KEITH
February 5th, 2013
1:05 pm
I CAN REFUSE TO SELL ANYONE ONE OF MY GUNS FOR ANY REASON I CHOOSE.
комисса́р (Occupation)
February 5th, 2013
1:05 pm
KEITH: “You have liberals enforning or NOT enforcing the laws according to how to best help themselves”
Oh, yeah, and the non-liberals NEVER do that.
skipper
February 5th, 2013
1:05 pm
Moderate Line,
I know this is not a duel, but ‘Bro has put a double-barrel high-brass a$$ whoopin’ on your lame self today………if you are moderate, then I invite all on this blog to the march for celibacy to be led by Warren Beatty and Madonna this weekend.
Thulsa Doom
February 5th, 2013
1:06 pm
“Evangelicals scare me because they lay waste to the concept of separation of church and state number one.”
I disagree for a couple of reasons. One is that the founders were for the most part deeply religious men. Religion was never intended to be stamped out as part of our public life. What they didn’t want imo was an official state religion like in Europe at the time or in Iran today. As for them forcing a state/religion alliance I think that’s pretty much an impossibility. Its impossible because just within Christianity we have so many different divisions that no one would ever agree on what the official religion would be. And the constitution and courts will always keep that separation.
“Number 2 is that the whole concept of selling dogma on others and/or discriminating due to conflicting beliefs have no good outcomes….”
Whatever dogma they are selling you don’t have to buy. No one is forcing you. Not sure what you mean though by discriminating beliefs.
“We have freedom of and from religion except..the evangelical quest is to convert as many as possible….I also don’t like vacuum cleaner salesfolks knocking on my door.”
Yes. That is indeed their mission because they honestly believe they are trying to save your soul. So when those Mormons knock on your door simply politely tell them that you’re not interested. Or do what I did in college. Invite them in, drink a 8 tall boys in front of them, start spewing your own drunken religious nonsense, and watch them give up. My roommate set me up by asking me to be there that afternoon at 2 to receive an important UPS package. What he had done was schedule the Mormon folks to see me. Doomy got punked good on that day. Still had fun with it though.
Cheesy Grits is gone but not forgotten
February 5th, 2013
1:06 pm
I CAN REFUSE TO SELL ANYONE ONE OF MY GUNS FOR ANY REASON I CHOOSE.
NO YOU CANNOT
Skip
February 5th, 2013
1:06 pm
I think I’m quoting God correctly on this.Looking down on earth, “If it wasn’t for the dogs I’d kill them all”
Stevie Ray..Clowns to the left and Jokers to the right..here I am...
February 5th, 2013
1:06 pm
Thulsa Doom
February 5th, 2013
12:55 pm
That’s a wonderful approach since it is thoughtful and remains personal. In my circles your feelings are commonly referred to as the “clockmaker” theory..hard to dispute if one felt dispute was necessary.
Seems to me there are many ways to find meaningful purpose in a higher power…after all there are many things bigger than me to be certain. More folks than I imagined simply choose to call their personal higher power “god”…
Corbin Sharpe. I think, therefore I am...I think.
February 5th, 2013
1:06 pm
KEITH
February 5th, 2013
1:01 pm
Oh, I don’t know Keith…I just recently bought 200 rounds of Winchester .220 bullets for the sole purpose of making sure those rounds will NEVER see the light of day and never hurt anyone. I call that responsible, wouldn’t you?
Keep Up the Good Fight!
February 5th, 2013
1:07 pm
Amazing Keith, so now how did you determine that “liberals” were the cause? You have the investigation reports, obviously. Show us where the police were checking off the liberal box or is this just another, no conned live in Fulton county claim without fact.
Perhaps you need to work on the “facts lost to “liberals” ” stupidity to support your claim
KEITH
February 5th, 2013
1:07 pm
Liberals abmit to being unable to own weapons without hurting themselves. They think everyone else is like them so they want to ban them for all of us. Not everyone is as irresponsible as liberals.
Stevie Ray..Clowns to the left and Jokers to the right..here I am...
February 5th, 2013
1:08 pm
Skip
February 5th, 2013
1:06 pm
I thought that, not unlike “Hitchikers Guide to the Galaxy”, it was the dolphins (porpoises) that will be spared…??
Joe Hussein Mama
February 5th, 2013
1:08 pm
Keith — “I CAN REFUSE TO SELL ANYONE ONE OF MY GUNS FOR ANY REASON I CHOOSE.”
If you’re a firearm dealer and you refuse to sell me another weapon because I’m a Democrat, then you’re going to get sued.
And you’ll lose, too.
KEITH
February 5th, 2013
1:09 pm
Oh, I don’t know Keith…I just recently bought 200 rounds of Winchester .220 bullets for the sole purpose of making sure those rounds will NEVER see the light of day and never hurt anyone. I call that responsible, wouldn’t you?
no, i call that stupidity. 220 bullets. LOL. I shoot 10 times that every time I go to the range. You just wasted a whole months pay didnt ya? LMAO
Joe Hussein Mama
February 5th, 2013
1:11 pm
Keith — “Liberals abmit to being unable to own weapons without hurting themselves.”
This liberal has admitted no such thing. Not going to either.
I’ve never hurt myself or anyone else when using or firing any weapon, whether I owned it or not.
Thulsa Doom
February 5th, 2013
1:11 pm
“The history of Western civilization shows us that most social and moral progress has been brought about by persons free from religion”
MLK was free from religion?
“just as they were the first to call for an end to slavery.”
Little bit of revisionist history going there Corbin. There were a lot of abolitionists who were abolitionists because of their religion- they found slavery to be an abhorrible practice.
As for abortion you call that social and moral progress??? You gotta be kidding.
KEITH
February 5th, 2013
1:12 pm
If you’re a firearm dealer and you refuse to sell me another weapon because I’m a Democrat, then you’re going to get sued.
And you’ll lose, too.
Who said i was a firearms ealer? One of your liberal buddies asked if I would sell an AK-47 to the crazy judge that liberals in Chicago keep reelecting. I said I wouldnt sell any guns to any liberal. AND I WOULDNT. You are too irresponsible.
Regnad Kcin
February 5th, 2013
1:12 pm
“No I would not sell any liberal any type of gun”
Why do cons hate the constitution?
getalife
February 5th, 2013
1:12 pm
Using God and the Bible for a party that does nothing good for the American people should end.
Jesus would throw up all over you cons if he came back.
Your hypocrisy has no bounds.
DannyX
February 5th, 2013
1:12 pm
“Liberals abmit to being unable to own weapons without hurting themselves. They think everyone else is like them so they want to ban them for all of us.”
That is just plain stupid.
Joe Hussein Mama
February 5th, 2013
1:13 pm
R. Kcin — “Why do cons hate the constitution?”
Not enough jebus in it.
illyushin
February 5th, 2013
1:13 pm
scout – 12:50 “you have judged rightly”
And then he turns around and says “Judge not, lest ye be judged”
Just another New Testament contradiction.
Granny Godzilla
February 5th, 2013
1:14 pm
Matti
February 5th, 2013
12:53 pm
“Hey Doom, have you noticed there isn’t a single liberal poster on this board who EVER defends God? Not one. Ever.”
Does the Omnipotent need defending?
I believe in God. I just don’t believe arrogant, hateful, self-serving men when they ’splain God to me in the context of judging me or trying to run my life. See, believing what such a man says about God requires more than a belief in God; it requires a belief that such men actually (a) have the capacity to understand one as great as God, and (b) are capable of telling the truth if they knew it.
The faith required to believe such men is far greater than the faith required to believe that there is a being superior to mortal humans.
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.
.
BRAVA! BRAVA! BRAVA!
Those “men” made Mary Magdalene a whore……Disgusting.
Corbin Sharpe. I think, therefore I am...I think.
February 5th, 2013
1:14 pm
KEITH,
I don’t believe you. At 2.00 a bullet, you say you shoot 4,000.00 dollars worth of bullets every time you go shooting? Liar.
And I will buy more when the time comes. It’s the only way I can help stop the senseless violence. Buy bullets and destroy them. It just plain makes me feel good.
Joe Hussein Mama
February 5th, 2013
1:15 pm
Keith — “Who said i was a firearms ealer?”
Don’t know/ Who?
“One of your liberal buddies asked if I would sell an AK-47 to the crazy judge that liberals in Chicago keep reelecting. I said I wouldnt sell any guns to any liberal. AND I WOULDNT.”
And if you were a gun dealer and you refused to sell me another firearm for that stated reason, I would sue the living daylights out of you. And I’d win, too.
“You are too irresponsible.”
And you’re both ignorant and prejudiced. Many liberals own firearms. And more of us than you’d like to think about are quite *good* with them, too.
комисса́р (Occupation)
February 5th, 2013
1:16 pm
KEITH: “Liberals abmit to being unable to own weapons without hurting themselves. They think everyone else is like them so they want to ban them for all of us”
You’re big on this word “liberals” dude.
What does wanting to control gun access have to do with being a “liberal”?
It’s got nothing to do with it, really.
Jerome Horwitz
February 5th, 2013
1:16 pm
God and I are OK with each other. It’s people who claim to know what God thinks and force those beliefs on me that I have a problem with. You people are sad.
getalife
February 5th, 2013
1:18 pm
The President is speaking about the budget.
Pay attention cons.
Mama Says
February 5th, 2013
1:19 pm
Ok libs, dont get your hopes up. There is NO difference between todays GOP and todays Democratic Party (from a national party success point of view).
Jay would have a novice believe that only the GOP has super packs, large donors and internal struggles. Jay would also have all us forget that Romney, hardly a conservative in his approach, got 50 million votes.
Where was Jay when Obama was bribing every democratic senator in the country to get Obama Care passed ? Where was Jay when the conservative democrats held out against Obama on the abortion aspects of the very same bill, almost to the point of killing it ?
That certainly indicates internal strife. Where is Jay when The Congressional Black Caucus is publically critical of Obama ?
Where is Jay when Obama “caves” on high income taxes and the more liberal wing slams him for not standing up to the man (cons) ?
Where is Jay when Obama passes the exact same national security measures, which were a violation of our rights when Bush did it ?
For you Jay, to try to seperate the two parties based on the facts, and that they are, is partisanship at its height, you sir should run for office. You are nothing more than a modern day politician. Critical of every aspect the opposition has and blind to the faults of your own, you would fit right in. But then again your money comes from the role you fill obediantly doesn’t it ? The role of party propagandist spouting the party line in a national news outlet. Oh who is that who banters against the ‘FOX NEWS” mentality has he uses his piece of the media pie for the exact same purpose of party support ? Thats where the money is though isnt it Jay ? Enjoy your 6 figure job with 3 retirement packages (I believe you once said), the real poor and lower middle class will continue to follow your brainwashing, especially when the government, as you want it gives us all they can. but hey the good news is we may all get free Wi Fi in the future, at government expense that is. or should I say at the expense of the ones who are taxed, all 50% of us.
good day !
Thulsa Doom
February 5th, 2013
1:21 pm
Stevie Ray @ 1:06,
Well said. And I do hear ya on some of the dogma bit and the organized religion bit which I am very weary of myself. Unfortunately a lotta religious charlatans out there and especially amongst these prosperity preachers like Joel Osteen, Creflo Dollar, etc. Why people follow these cotton candy preachers is beyond me.
I’m even suspicious of religion on a small scale. When I was a kid we went to a relgious camp for 2 weeks because the neighbors said it was a great camp to my parents. It was like a living hell. Instead of fishing, swimming, and all the other stuff you did at camp there was practically nothing to do. We had these church kinda brain washing services 2-3 times a day. The night session all the kids were guilted into coming down and accepting Christ and crying for all their sins and all that crap. It wasn’t about a loving God. It was about hellfire and brimstone and guilt and all that bullsheet. Even as a kid I knew that was bullsheet and it turned me away from God for a long, long time. But that’s all manmade crap and folks gotta get past the crap where men screw it up.
Mama Says
February 5th, 2013
1:21 pm
Budget ? you mean like the ones he has failed to propose for 4 of the 5 years ? or the one that every member of his on party voted against ?
skipper
February 5th, 2013
1:22 pm
AT LAST……..something joe hussein mamma and I agree on………I can split a frog-hair at twenty paces………………..
Cheesy Grits is gone but not forgotten
February 5th, 2013
1:22 pm
Some serious drive by BS.
getalife
February 5th, 2013
1:24 pm
2.5 trillion deficit drop so far.
4 trillion deal still on the table.
Wants tax reform for revenue.
Joe Hussein Mama
February 5th, 2013
1:27 pm
skipper — “AT LAST……..something joe hussein mamma and I agree on………I can split a frog-hair at twenty paces………………..”
I’m your man with a rifle. But I’m working on getting better with pistol and revolver. My shot groupings are a little wiggly when it comes to handguns.
My wife uses the shotgun.
Mad Max
February 5th, 2013
1:27 pm
Bookman, please name the GOP elected officials against Hurricane Sandy relief. Your confusion with people concerned about the ridiculous amount of pork in the relief package is classic Obama misdirection. Your insinuations are completely unfounded and part of the greater never ending Obama spin machine to distract from the important issues. How is the Obamacare implementation going? Are the numbers working out? How about Dodd-Frank? Are there still “too big to fail” institutions? How many rules from the legislation have been implemented? As a union puppet, is Obama going to create a bureaucratic committee loaded with union appointees to control immigrant workers? The court system is gradually unwinding the NLRB fiasco and the EPA is being reined in as well. With the head of the FCC proposing “free” wi-fi for all Americans, obviously, Obama is about to announce significant new taxes. Hey, it worked with the “free” phones for the election. The next step is probably a VAT tax. Grossly misunderstood by most Americans, the VAT is a politician’s dream allowing taxes up and down the supply chain without any accountability. Since Obama has already spent ALL of the revenues from the evil rich he campaigned on for four years, he has to find some new sources for his irresponsible spending. So I guess this is the new normal: never ending tax increases, regulation, complete disregard for any fiscal responsibility, historically high unemployment/underemployment, historically low GDP, constant adversarial attacks on equal branches of Government, mediocre cabinet appointments consisting only of maleable “yes men”, and finally, complete control of the main stream media by the White House. I suppose it is o.k. if you have no personal ambition and have set the same low standards for your children. Then, Obama’s “Life of Julia” is for you.
getalife
February 5th, 2013
1:28 pm
I shred targets with 90 round clips.
It gives you a rush.
Darwin
February 5th, 2013
1:29 pm
My heart aches for the GOP!
getalife
February 5th, 2013
1:30 pm
“please name the GOP elected officials against Hurricane Sandy relief”
Check the roll call con.
38 voted no
Thulsa Doom
February 5th, 2013
1:31 pm
“Actually, you need to stop misrepresenting the criticisms we have.”
Joe mama,
Nope. I think I represented the left’s criticisms just fine and if you still agree well than that’s just tough for you. This was your first error and from there you just engaged in meaningless sophistry. The rest of your post simply does not merit my attention.
mike
February 5th, 2013
1:32 pm
It is great to see the conserves continue their path of self-destruction. It is obvious they have learned nothing from this past election. I guess they only know what they are told by Hannity, Rove and all the others who are making money off these poor souls. I cant wait to see who runs for office in the next election. Hopefully they have another star studded cast like last election.
Redneck Convert (R--and proud of him)
February 5th, 2013
1:32 pm
What exactly does this “god” look like that everyone is discussing?
Well, you got to go to Rome to see Him. And I ain’t talking about Georgia or the one in NY. This fella saw what he looked like and painted him on the ceiling of some church over there.
Anyhow, good to see Thelma Doom is about. I reckon he won’t be cheating many old ladies today. Every time I see him on here I think of what the head of the Sun Microsystems sales division wrote to his salesmen. Only the DL he put up was a bunch of nuns, not his salesmen: “I want you to get out there and sell your a$$ off. I’m sick of seeing people sit on their duffs when they could be out there making money.”
For some reason they got rid of the guy at Sun.
curious
February 5th, 2013
1:32 pm
Never heard of a .220 bullet. Are you referring to a .22? If so, they’re pretty cheap..
Getalfe shreds targets with a clip. Why buy bullets?
Keep Up the Good Fight!
February 5th, 2013
1:33 pm
this blog is a great reflection of the “stupidity” dominating the GOP party. I imagine that most of the moderate and intelligent “Rinos” have long since given up trying to stop the insanity.
getalife
February 5th, 2013
1:35 pm
“Why buy bullets?”
I bought a pallet .
Joe Hussein Mama
February 5th, 2013
1:35 pm
Doom — “Joe mama,
“Nope. I think”
Really? I hadn’t noticed.
No matter. Your concession and surrender on the point have been noted and are appreciated.
illyushin
February 5th, 2013
1:35 pm
Mad Max – 1:27
Please explain how Obama will achieve “complete control of the main stream media by the White House”.
Will this include Fox?
hamiltonAZ
February 5th, 2013
1:37 pm
In the words of conservative, but common sense Former Senator Lugar, “The United States cannot feed every person, lift every person out of poverty, cure every disease, or stop every conflict. But our power and status have conferred upon us a tremendous responsibility to humanity. ”
Just not sure the Richard Mourdocks will ever understand.
getalife
February 5th, 2013
1:38 pm
A student with a gun locked down three schools in Arizona.
moonbat betty
February 5th, 2013
1:38 pm
Corbin, glad to see you are buying up all those bullets.
Yesterday, I took a gallon jug down to the beach and filled it with ocean water to help stop the seas from rising.
Joe Hussein Mama
February 5th, 2013
1:39 pm
getalife — “I shred targets with 90 round clips.”
Assuming you’re being serious, I can’t imagine why. I never saw any value in those things.
“It gives you a rush.”
Why? Because you get more jams from those freakishly large mags?
Thulsa Doom
February 5th, 2013
1:39 pm
Always good to know I still get under Pencilneck convert’s skin. I was beginning to think the kook didn’t pine for my attention any more the way that garbage boy still does. Guess I was wrong.
getalife
February 5th, 2013
1:40 pm
I made a killing off the local cons scared to death that they would ban guns.
Easy money.
alex
February 5th, 2013
1:40 pm
“finance a war with the great unwashed..”Jay, it’s obvious that you are just trying to rabble rouse your syncophants..perhaps your salary reflects the number of hits on your blog and the last 2 ops have been boring.. and your trying t o find a way to pay for your next BBQ bachanalia ! Amusing stuff and if taken seriously would be provacative. Undoubtedly the repubs are in the throes of upheaval-which like a “set” fire in the west can be helpful. Lots of underbrush to clear..discussion is great and in the long run will help the party. Stagnation leads to decline :”Foundation Trilogy”. Quite a sucker punch, Jay..Granny and Danny and Jamvet and indigo and mike can now feel that their ignorant self serving bias has a basis in reality. Cicero,..Jay,…Cicero….
skipper
February 5th, 2013
1:40 pm
Joe Hussein Mamma,
Mine is more country-boy shootin’ than range shootin’, but I’m fair to middlin’ so they say. I just hate it that so many of the mentally unstable out there (many who were identified previously) have decided to “booger up” things for everybody. Ain’t no easy answers to this one, are there?
Thulsa Doom
February 5th, 2013
1:41 pm
Joe mama declaring victory and doing his faux victory dance. He looks like big bird dancing he do.
getalife
February 5th, 2013
1:41 pm
“Why? Because you get more jams from those freakishly large mags?”
Not mine but was sick of cleaning them so sold some for outrageous prices.
moonbat betty
February 5th, 2013
1:42 pm
“I shred targets with 90 round clips”
I’m kinda afraid to ask, but what do you use as targets, getalife?
Wabbits?
Granny Godzilla
February 5th, 2013
1:44 pm
Mama Says
February 5th, 2013
1:21 pm
Budget ? you mean like the ones he has failed to propose for 4 of the 5 years ? or the one that every member of his on party voted against ?
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.No we don’t mean any of those oft told lies.
Moderate Line
February 5th, 2013
1:44 pm
skipper
February 5th, 2013
1:05 pm
Moderate Line,
I know this is not a duel, but ‘Bro has put a double-barrel high-brass a$$ whoopin’ on your lame self today………if you are moderate, then I invite all on this blog to the march for celibacy to be led by Warren Beatty and Madonna this weekend.
+++
Whether or not he “whoop me” is not important to me. What is important to me is that a person was not given due process. When he was in the United States he was not tried because of a lack of evidence so when he is overseas we kill him with a drone.
If you have a problem with my argument state it. I really do not care about winning or losing.
Class of '98
February 5th, 2013
1:47 pm
It’s pathetic that Jay insists on stirring the racial pot by writing that the GOP “doesn’t seem all that friendly to their black friends either.”
It’s just pathetic that you stoop to such lows. I would expect more from a 10 year-old on a playground.
And Jay, you STILL look like Katherine Sebelius, except less masculine.
getalife
February 5th, 2013
1:48 pm
“I’m kinda afraid to ask, but what do you use as targets, getalife?”
We have a nice outdoor range.
Moderate Line
February 5th, 2013
1:48 pm
Moderate Line
February 5th, 2013
1:44 pm
skipper
February 5th, 2013
1:05 pm
Moderate Line,
I know this is not a duel, but ‘Bro has put a double-barrel high-brass a$$ whoopin’ on your lame self today………if you are moderate, then I invite all on this blog to the march for celibacy to be led by Warren Beatty and Madonna this weekend.
+++++
I don’t really care about scoring points but rather making a point.
Uh Huh...The GOP's CHICKENS are coming home to ROOST
February 5th, 2013
1:49 pm
@Mama Says
February 5th, 2013
1:19 pm
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Thank God you ain’t my mama.
This issue is not about Obama….. mama.
This is about the GOP’s CHICKENS coming home to ROOST.
COCKLE DOODLE DO
COCKLE DOODLE DO
COCKLE DOODLE DO
COCKLE DOODLE DO
Uh Huh
Regnad Kcin
February 5th, 2013
1:50 pm
” I would expect more from a 10 year-old on a playground.
And Jay, you STILL look like Katherine Sebelius, except less masculine.”
CO98, you owe me a new Irony Meter – your post above done overloaded mine!
Peadawg
February 5th, 2013
1:50 pm
“President Barack Obama will call on Tuesday for a short-term agreement to put off deep cuts to government spending, including the military, set to take effect next month, a senior administration official confirmed to CNN.”
Keep kickin’ the can down the road…
Corbin Sharpe. I think, therefore I am...I think.
February 5th, 2013
1:50 pm
CURIOUS,
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/.220_Swift
Joe Hussein Mama
February 5th, 2013
1:51 pm
skipper — “Joe Hussein Mamma, Mine is more country-boy shootin’ than range shootin’
Nothing wrong with that. It’s how I learned. I just made sure not to mention it at boot camp. My uncles told me that the drill sergeants would take an extra-special interest in anyone who already knew how to shoot. And they were right; the country boys who owned up to it had drills breathing down their necks the whole time they were trying to qualify.
“decided to “booger up” things for everybody. Ain’t no easy answers to this one, are there?”
It’s a hard nut to crack, no two ways about it.
Regnad Kcin
February 5th, 2013
1:52 pm
skipper – you really seem to have hit a nerve with “moderate line” – he can’t stop thinking about you.
getalife
February 5th, 2013
1:52 pm
Pea,
Did you bother to listen to him today?
You just might learn something.
Joe Hussein Mama
February 5th, 2013
1:53 pm
getalife — “We have a nice outdoor range.”
Got some posts or cinderblocks or some such to put targets on, do you?
Corbin Sharpe. I think, therefore I am...I think.
February 5th, 2013
1:53 pm
moonbat betty
February 5th, 2013
1:38 pm
Yeah, I know it’s not much, but if a bunch of people did it, we might both save lives and stop the ocean from rising…
alittlecommonsense
February 5th, 2013
1:54 pm
“That complaint epitomizes just how vapid the GOP has become in its opposition to all things Obama. We can’t stop a terrorist out in the field actively trying to do imminent harm to our country and its citizens just because he or she happens to somehow have American citizenship? Seriously? That’s your complaint? You want Anwar al-Awlaki, the guy who sent the Christmas airline bomber to this country, who pushed Major Hasan to kill fellow soldiers at Fort Hood, who became a regional commander for Al Qaida in Yemen, who encouraged others, including the Times Square bomber — you insist that he get “due process” before he is stopped?”
Excellent example of how Jay will excuse ANYTHING when Obama does it. Warrantless wiretapping – no way! Warrantless executions? Well that’s fine. As long as it’s done by a Democrat!
And no, this isn’t about “heat of the battle” issues. This is about targeting a specific American citizen in advance. No court of law, no warrant, no evidence required. This is hypocrasy at its finest. If you don’t like waterboarding, and warrantless wiretaps, yet you support this, you are a hypocrite. And that isn’t a word I use lightly.
skipper
February 5th, 2013
1:54 pm
Moderate Line,
When two folks have an argument, each usually presents his/her point. Since you have no point other than babbling and b.s. cry-babying (and I nor many others construe that as a point) then please; allow me!
I am an independent, not a repub or dem. These bast#rds are and were plotting against us, and terrorist attacks are for real. There is a difference between rounding up every ethnicity during a war, and snuffing out a scum-bag. Learn it, live it, its here. I, for one, admire the president for snuffing out these rodents who have no other cause or purpose except to kill. Even then, they let others do the dirty work, as besides being too sorry to do it they are too cowardly as well. And lastly, remember…..there are things the armed services and others know that they may not call you up and ask your pansy opinion on prior to taking action. These sob’s are not citizens……they are leacherous villians who need to go, and although I am not the prez’s biggest fan I gotta go with him on this one.
Joe Hussein Mama
February 5th, 2013
1:55 pm
getalife — “Not mine but was sick of cleaning them so sold some for outrageous prices.”
Were they all metal or the cheap-looking metal and plastic ones I’ve seen? The plastic ones look like they’d bust right open if you dropped them and they were any more than half loaded.
Class of '98
February 5th, 2013
1:55 pm
If Jay wants to get juvenile with his ad hominem attacks, I can go toe-to-toe, Regnad.
The front page of AJC.com currently has pics of celebrities that are doppelgangers. Sebelius and Bookman should’ve been included.
barking frog
February 5th, 2013
1:57 pm
Buy bullets and destroy them. It just plain makes me feel good.
……………………………………………………………………………………..
I once felt the same way about whisky.
Paul
February 5th, 2013
1:57 pm
Afternoon, Thulsa Doom
” Unfortunately a lotta religious charlatans out there and especially amongst these prosperity preachers like Joel Osteen, Creflo Dollar, ”
You may want to rethink who to include in the ‘prosperity preacher’ category. Just because they are Prostestants on TV doesn’t make them a prosperity preacher.From what I’ve seen, Osteen is most unlike many televangelists. Saw on 60 minutes when he first took over the church he asked the board who had the best transparent financial reporting. The answer came, he asked ‘are we like that?” answer was ‘no’ and he said something to the effect of ‘we are, starting now and that’s the minimum standard.’
Once cite below, mirrors others I’ve read. Gets his money from his books, not the donations. No jet. Pays his way on the road. Lives in the same house he’s had for years. Never asks for money on his show. In fact, the guy’s a regular subject of criticism from the likes of the Baptist Theological Seminary up here in Dallas because he preaches a positive message of a loving God – not one who’s angry and punishes people and makes them rich.
I’ve listened to him – he sounds more like Unity or Religious Science/New Thought than anything. It’s all about being positive and not being downcast, angry or fearful. Y’know, a few people on this blog could stand to watch him….
http://askville.amazon.com/money-televangelist-joel-osteen-make-year/AnswerViewer.do?requestId=13423293
curious
February 5th, 2013
1:58 pm
Corbin Sharpe. I think, therefore I am…I think.
February 5th, 2013
1:50 pm
CURIOUS,
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/.220_Swift
They aren’t cheap either.
Stevie Ray..Clowns to the left and Jokers to the right..here I am...
February 5th, 2013
2:01 pm
Moderate Line
February 5th, 2013
1:44 pm
Warren Beatty: Bullworth..the movie that defines most of my politics..
St Simons - he-ne-ha
February 5th, 2013
2:02 pm
my great spirit doesn’t need defending
and I see there’s one less Republican voter in Midland City Ala heheh
yay big gubmint FBI. Watch out all you Timmy McVeigh wannbees
Bullseye
February 5th, 2013
2:03 pm
The only reason Corbin is buying .220 Swifts is that it is the only caliber not sold out.
getalife
February 5th, 2013
2:04 pm
President Obama will drone you.
Uh Huh...The GOP's CHICKENS are coming home to ROOST
February 5th, 2013
2:04 pm
@Class of ‘98
February 5th, 2013
1:47 pm
It’s pathetic that Jay insists on stirring the racial pot by writing that the GOP “doesn’t seem all that friendly to their black friends either.”
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“stirring the racial pot?”
# ” / ^ ” * / # > ^ & < ^
Your words are like CHICKEN SCRATCH….hard to comprehend.
Paul
February 5th, 2013
2:06 pm
Moderate Line
If one accepts the war on terror (or whatever title one wants to use) is a war then rules of war apply. “Due process” is not a concept we’ve extended to the battlefield. As I read your scenario, a person like al-Awlaki would have to have a warrant issued for his apprehension, military couldn’t do it, law enforcement would, he’d have to be Mirandized, brought to trial within certain timelines, etc.
To put it in terms many of a certain era on this blog would understand.
You’re with 0311 and Recon and a few others on patrol in Vietnam. You see ahead of you a group on NVA coming right at you with an American in black pajamas and an NVA helmet walking point, carrying AK. According to what I’ve read of your posts, the Marines would have to withhold fire on the American and accord him due process of criminal law.
Also, I did not see where you answered my earlier question of ” the guy in the bunker, whom the authorities determined posed an imminent threat to the little boy, whose capture they felt was infeasible, so the authorities struck according to current legal practices: was that guy an American citizen killed without due process?
Plus, I haven’t seen where you’ve described this ‘due process’ in the circumstance under consideration.
Corbin Sharpe. I think, therefore I am...I think.
February 5th, 2013
2:06 pm
Bullseye
February 5th, 2013
2:03 pm
Nope, it’s because the Bushmaster uses them.
UNCLE SAMANTHA
February 5th, 2013
2:07 pm
how come liberals aren’t protesting Obama for all the women and children he has MURDERED using drones?
selective rage?????
Marty Huggins'
February 5th, 2013
2:07 pm
Wow,
I’m kinda late reading today but did Jay really say it was ok to assassinate an American citizen without due process?
I know it’s off topic and all bit that’s wrong.
It does not matter to me what any citizen is accused of there should be an attempt to apprehend and not just go out and execute.
Our rights should never be compromised out of fear. Was wrong when bush was doing it and wrong now when Obama is doing it.
curious
February 5th, 2013
2:08 pm
Seems to me that guy in the bunker was processed duly.
Corbin Sharpe. I think, therefore I am...I think.
February 5th, 2013
2:09 pm
UNCLE SAMANTHA
February 5th, 2013
2:07 pm
Are you protesting all the women and children murdered by suicide bombers, car bombs, and IED’s? Selective rage?
Uh Huh...The GOP's CHICKENS are coming home to ROOST
February 5th, 2013
2:11 pm
@getalife
February 5th, 2013
2:04 pm
President Obama will drone you.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Obama has been PECKED to death by the Republican CHICKENHAWKS.
And he is STILL STANDING.
peck peck peck peck peck
skipper
February 5th, 2013
2:12 pm
@ Marty and Moderate:
Penalty bong-hits to each!!
getalife
February 5th, 2013
2:13 pm
Will he label cons a imminent threat and drone them legally?
Stevie Ray..Clowns to the left and Jokers to the right..here I am...
February 5th, 2013
2:13 pm
getalife
February 5th, 2013
1:24 pm
How has the deficit dropped $2.5 trillion?
Anyhow, I’d be careful putting too many eggs in the CBO basket.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/02/05/budget-deficit-trillion-cbo_n_2623910.html
A couple of takeaways. First spending will continue to increase under BO due to healthcare and entitlements. Second, estimates that unemployment will hover between 7.9% to over 8% as those who left market come back…in other words the benefit of those leaving workforce that was prime reason rate went below 8%, will work in reverse.
Of course this all assumes congress sticks to it’s spending agreements.
Where are all the spending cuts you suggest BO is holding hostage?
Thulsa Doom
February 5th, 2013
2:14 pm
Good afternoon Paul,
I probably shouldn’t lump him in there with Creflo and some others. But to me he does preach a sort of cotton candy type religion that seems to have a heavy emphasis on touchy feely good religion and the constant preaching about financial rewards for believing in God. I don’t see much in the way of teaching real Bible lessons and teaching about doctrines and some of the hard lessons of the bible. I saw that 60 minutes interview as well and I’ve seen Osteen on TV. Other than preaching that you will be monetarily blessed and rewarded by God for believing in him I just don’t see much substance from this guy. I like his positivity but there are some harsh lessons to also learn from the Bible. Not crazy about the fire and brimstone Baptist preachers either though.
As for paying his own way he flies first class with his wife. And the there was that matter of his wife’s nastiness on that one airline flight. She had to be physically restrained.
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,399503,00.html
Simple Truths
February 5th, 2013
2:15 pm
I guess the GOP doesn’t have enough ire, so they have to budget where they direct it. The Democrats have plenty of ire to spare on the cause du jour.
getalife
February 5th, 2013
2:15 pm
“First spending will continue to increase under BO due to healthcare and entitlements.”
Wrong. You failed to listen to him.
Cuts will make unemployment rise so he wants to try to stop that fact.
UNCLE SAMANTHA
February 5th, 2013
2:16 pm
UN to investigate the NOBEL PEACE PRIZE winner OBAMA for killing civilians
http://atlantablackstar.com/2013/02/05/document-leaked-justifying-obama-administration-use-of-drones-to-kill-americans/
SHAME
SHAME
SHAME
Granny Godzilla
February 5th, 2013
2:17 pm
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10022313410
A suggested memorial to Bush on the capital mall…..
Marty Huggins'
February 5th, 2013
2:17 pm
skipper
February 5th, 2013
2:12 pm
What?
Still work to do today. Too early for smoking
getalife
February 5th, 2013
2:17 pm
sam,
Shame on the gop for giving him that power.
Liberal Nightmare
February 5th, 2013
2:18 pm
Let me get this straight libs….
Torturing known terrorist for information – bad —- killing American citizens- ok.
Cool.
Uh Huh...The GOP's CHICKENS are coming home to ROOST
February 5th, 2013
2:18 pm
@UNCLE SAMANTHA
February 5th, 2013
2:07 pm
how come liberals aren’t protesting Obama for all the women and children he has MURDERED using drones?
selective rage?????
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
How come CONS aren’t protesting for all the women and children MURDERED
by guns in the U. S.?
How come CONS aren’t protesting for all the children who die because
of HUNGER in the U. S.?
How come CONS aren’t protesting for all the children who are molested
by catholic priests in the U. S.?
How come CONS aren’t protesting for all the senior citizens that are starving
in the U. S.?
selective rage?????
Uh Huh
Stevie Ray..Clowns to the left and Jokers to the right..here I am...
February 5th, 2013
2:19 pm
Uh Huh…The GOP’s CHICKENS are coming home to ROOST
February 5th, 2013
2:11 pm
Hmmm. It is likely BO will not need pecking by his opponents to economically trip up second term. Economists remain in disagreement as to what is store..
Way to many variables at this point that could affect precarious situation. Additional debt, unemployment/double dip recession, debt service rate increase, EU performance, unbudgeted yet reasonably expected soaring costs above and beyond ever imagined by PelosiCare..
Second term seems to be a real charm to recents..I’m not expecting much different for BO..blame whomever you want but DEM one-size-fits-all economic dogma may be his downfall..
Thulsa Doom
February 5th, 2013
2:19 pm
Uncle Samantha,
Dontcha know.
Drone bombing women and children under Bush = bad
Drone bombing women and children under Obama = good
Marty Huggins'
February 5th, 2013
2:20 pm
getalife
February 5th, 2013
2:17 pm
Agreed and shame on Obama for abusing the power.
комисса́р (Occupation)
February 5th, 2013
2:20 pm
Uncle Samantha: “how come liberals aren’t protesting Obama for all the women and children he has MURDERED using drones? / selective rage?????”
In a word: yes.
Oscar
February 5th, 2013
2:21 pm
Read the polls. Listen to the people. Talk to the hand.
Out of step with the majority means trouble winning statewide and national elections.
Uh Huh...The GOP's CHICKENS are coming home to ROOST
February 5th, 2013
2:21 pm
@UNCLE SAMANTHA
February 5th, 2013
2:16 pm
UN to investigate the NOBEL PEACE PRIZE winner OBAMA for killing civilians
http://atlantablackstar.com/2013/02/05/document-leaked-justifying-obama-administration-use-of-drones-to-kill-americans/
SHAME
SHAME
SHAME
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While they are at it……….
Investigate George W Bush for american soliders that were killed because
of HIS BIG FAT LIE……..WEAPONS OF MASS DESTRUCTION.
selective rage?????
Moderate Line
February 5th, 2013
2:22 pm
skipper
February 5th, 2013
1:54 pm
Moderate Line,
When two folks have an argument, each usually presents his/her point. Since you have no point other than babbling and b.s. cry-babying (and I nor many others construe that as a point) then please; allow me!
I am an independent, not a repub or dem. These bast#rds are and were plotting against us, and terrorist attacks are for real. There is a difference between rounding up every ethnicity during a war, and snuffing out a scum-bag. Learn it, live it, its here. I, for one, admire the president for snuffing out these rodents who have no other cause or purpose except to kill. Even then, they let others do the dirty work, as besides being too sorry to do it they are too cowardly as well. And lastly, remember…..there are things the armed services and others know that they may not call you up and ask your pansy opinion on prior to taking action. These sob’s are not citizens……they are leacherous villians who need to go, and although I am not the prez’s biggest fan I gotta go with him on this one.
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If personal attacks make you the winner then yes you win. ie. babbling and b.s. cry-babying, your pansy opinion I believe everyone has a right to their opinion.
First I voted for Obama so I believe if anyone should have a beef with my moderate credentials it should be the right.
Second, These sob’s are not citizens, Al-Awlaki was a US citizen and so was his 16 year son killed by an attack. It is hard to beat someone in an argument when one side does not let the truth get in their way. Chargers were drop against him in FT Hood because a lack of evidence. Now does that mean he is innocent. Not really. I feel pretty confident he is.
There is a difference between rounding up every ethnicity during a war, and snuffing out a scum-bag Where did I say they were the same? I merely mention this is proof that just because someone was not impeach did not mean they were not guilty of violating the constitution.
there are things the armed services and others know that they may not call you up and ask your pansy opinion on prior to taking action I am pretty confident they will not call me at all nor should they.
So basically bro whoop me because you disagree with me. Your opinion was formed prior to any exchange between myself and bro. So if disagreeing with you means I lost then I guess I lost. But I really don’t care.
Oscar
February 5th, 2013
2:22 pm
Komm – In two words – B S
Paul
February 5th, 2013
2:22 pm
Thulsa
Hey, if I was making that kind of money I’d be flying first class all the time, too! As far as the wife incident, my recollection is the later story development (which, strangely, wasn’t on the front page) was that other passengers said ‘all I can say is, that isn’t what I saw.” But even if it did play out that way, my view of religion is it’s a way to guide people on a path. They may fall off occasionally, but the point is to get back on, make amends and try to not do it again.
I suppose I like listening to a guy who says ‘look, life can be hard, terrible things can happen, but don’t walk away from goodness. Don’t let your attitude go south.”
You may look at it as cotton candy religion, but frankly, as I read the New Testament, I’d say Osteen’s style is a whole lot closer to what Jesus said than these fire-and-brimstone types.
Which is why I like ‘to each his own. If it works for you, fine.”
Okay, Thulsa, get ready for a couple of the regulars to show up, read our exchange, and tell us both how God isn’t happy with either one of us!
Stevie Ray..Clowns to the left and Jokers to the right..here I am...
February 5th, 2013
2:23 pm
Uh Huh…The GOP’s CHICKENS are coming home to ROOST
February 5th, 2013
2:18 pm
Really? Who exactly is protesting against all those who you suggest?
Catholic rape, seniors starving, children starving..a bit dramatic don’t you think especially given the gov’t can’t do anything about first and has throwed good and significant money at the last 2..
The only ones really protesting are the dopes on the left blaming the rich for all ills, and the dopes on the right who are tea bagging.
комисса́р (Occupation)
February 5th, 2013
2:23 pm
Uncle Samantha : “how come liberals aren’t protesting Obama for all the women and children he has MURDERED using drones? ”
Because they have either sold out (98% of the MSNBC crew) or they never were very principled about their outrage under Bush in the first place, but were just opportunistic. Of all of these characters, Sharpton has to be about the worst.
getalife
February 5th, 2013
2:23 pm
“Agreed and shame on Obama for abusing the power.”
Name one time Presidents gave back power.
He is not abusing the power unless you are a aq lover.
Marty Huggins'
February 5th, 2013
2:25 pm
Uh Huh…The GOP’s CHICKENS are coming home to ROOST
February 5th, 2013
2:18 pm
Seems you are projecting what you think about people to be actual fact.
With the guns example you used.
You don’t seem to understand most if not all “Cons” protest and disagree with those who kill women and children with guns. They just don’t protest the gun!
See the drone is the gun in this case and Obama is the one making the decision that ultimately kills women and children.
Now do you protest him for that along with the gun shooting murderer of women and children or are you using your selective outrage?
curious
February 5th, 2013
2:25 pm
The Republican field to replace Saxby is getting smaller.
Anybody want to make the case for Paul Broun to replace him?
getalife
February 5th, 2013
2:25 pm
You cons gave him that power and no you cry about it.
And you wonder why your party is a massive failure?
Man up and deal with the power YOU gave him and shut up.
Uh Huh...The GOP's CHICKENS are coming home to ROOST
February 5th, 2013
2:26 pm
@комисса́р (Occupation)
February 5th, 2013
2:20 pm
Uncle Samantha: “how come liberals aren’t protesting Obama for all the women and children he has MURDERED using drones? / selective rage?????”
In a word: yes.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
“Yes?”
In a word: BS
Oscar
February 5th, 2013
2:26 pm
Chickens coming home to roost. Yum – fried chicken. Or maybe tastes more like crow. Fried crow.
Thulsa Doom
February 5th, 2013
2:28 pm
“How come CONS aren’t protesting for all the women and children MURDERED
by guns in the U. S.?”
How ya gonna protest or stop individual killers. I’ve seen plenty of black leaders stage “stop the violence” marches and protests. Doesn’t seem to do much in their communities except maybe make people stop for a few hours or a day or 2.
“How come CONS aren’t protesting for all the children who die because
of HUNGER in the U. S.?”
Really? Kids are starving to death on a regular basis in the U.S.? Got a link to show that this is a common occurrence? Cause from what I’ve seen obesity is the biggest problem in the lowest income neighborhoods.
“How come CONS aren’t protesting for all the children who are molested
by catholic priests in the U. S.?”
Lots of people including many cons were upset about it. But don’t let that stop your completely BS hyperbole.
“How come CONS aren’t protesting for all the senior citizens that are starving
in the U. S.?”
Seniors are just dropping dead left and right from starvation all over the U.S.? Sure they are buddy. I see withered up starving seniors all the time. Had to step over 3 of them that withered up and died from starvation just to get to work this morning. kd
Look at folks. It looks like we got another one a them thar fainting liberal goats.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f_3Utmj4RPU
Stevie Ray..Clowns to the left and Jokers to the right..here I am...
February 5th, 2013
2:28 pm
Uh Huh…The GOP’s CHICKENS are coming home to ROOST
February 5th, 2013
2:21 pm
Why in your opinion was BO qualified for a Nobel Peace Prize? That has always puzzled me…of course Gore’s award based on the cheese and half truths in his self serving film has always puzzled me as well.
I wonder if I can get one for things I haven’t yet done?
getalife
February 5th, 2013
2:28 pm
Told ya it is great blogging times
appleseed
February 5th, 2013
2:28 pm
Joel more motivational speaker than preacher.TD more Thulsa than TD.If you rename your party I would suggest Pharisees party.just saying.
UNCLE SAMANTHA
February 5th, 2013
2:30 pm
obama is giving the u.s. a bad reputation around the world
making us look like cold blooded killers
SHAME ON HIM
SHAME ON YOU
SHAME ON US
Drone strikes kill, maim and traumatize too many civilians, U.S. study says
http://www.cnn.com/2012/09/25/world/asia/pakistan-us-drone-strikes
Stevie Ray..Clowns to the left and Jokers to the right..here I am...
February 5th, 2013
2:30 pm
GetaLife are you and the self proclaimed chicken man of relations?
Marty Huggins'
February 5th, 2013
2:31 pm
getalife
February 5th, 2013
2:23 pm
Mighty republican of you to either vast me to support Obama’s use of drones or I’m an aq lover….
I didn’t say he had to give the power back,
But he could more to ensure innocent women and children are not there when he drones a house.
He can honor our rights as citizens to due process.
He had the power to “torture” since the bush admin had aloud for it but he chose to end that practice.
Suppose he sees killing the guilty and innocent alike to be a better option.
Bullseye
February 5th, 2013
2:34 pm
.220 Swift is a varmit cartridge. Maybe you should buy up .223s, if you can find one.
appleseed
February 5th, 2013
2:34 pm
Thulsa@2′2:8 Interesting,and I thought factual until you said get to work.
Stevie Ray..Clowns to the left and Jokers to the right..here I am...
February 5th, 2013
2:34 pm
UNCLE SAMANTHA
February 5th, 2013
2:30 pm
Yes and that will come back to haunt us down the road…we gave those folks very little favorable outcomes from our enforcement of our will…they will remember the killing of family members courtesy of the US government.
One can make a solid argument that we are the most prevalent terrorist organization…no doubt we have killed more innocents than 911 and all other terror strikes combined.
moonbat betty
February 5th, 2013
2:34 pm
Liberals care about more about the rights of terrorists than their own citizens.
I suppose they think the citizens they are going to whack are angry old white men.
getalife
February 5th, 2013
2:34 pm
The gop establishment declared war with you cons.
Your move cons.
What are you going to do to fight back?
Nothing.
You are marginalized
Redneck Convert (R--and proud of him)
February 5th, 2013
2:35 pm
Okay, Thulsa, get ready for a couple of the regulars to show up, read our exchange, and tell us both how God isn’t happy with either one of us!
Well, don’t know if I’m a regular but I go a couple times a day. Anyhow, this Osteen ain’t no Rev. Jim Bob Buice. I mean, he’s all happy and everything and he don’t even say nothing about being took up from earth, the way me and mine will be, and leaving all the evil people behind—that’d be you two. He’d be alot better if there was some fire and brimstone in his sermons.
And all I got to say about that stewardess his wife shoved is, there wouldn’t be nothing left of her if she got into it with the missus.
Uh Huh...The GOP's CHICKENS are coming home to ROOST
February 5th, 2013
2:36 pm
@Marty Huggins’
February 5th, 2013
2:25 pm
Uh Huh…The GOP’s CHICKENS are coming home to ROOST
February 5th, 2013
2:18 pm
Seems you are projecting what you think about people to be actual fact.
With the guns example you used.
You don’t seem to understand most if not all “Cons” protest and disagree with those who kill women and children with guns. They just don’t protest the gun!
See the drone is the gun in this case and Obama is the one making the decision that ultimately kills women and children.
Now do you protest him for that along with the gun shooting murderer of women and children or are you using your selective outrag
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““Cons” protest and disagree with those who kill women and children with guns. They just don’t protest the gun!”
Huh?
So HATE the SHOOTER not the WEAPON?
Huh?
I HATE THE SHOOTER AND THE WEAPON.
Uh huh….
Uh huh….
Uh huh….
комисса́р (Occupation)
February 5th, 2013
2:37 pm
But bear in mind, Uncle Samantha, that we should turn things around the other way, too. So we’ll be back to see whether you protest as loudly the next GOP that is elected president (if there is one elected again before a party split) when that president continues, and intensifies, Obama’s continuation/intensification of the Bush/Cheney security state, assassination practices, etc.
getalife
February 5th, 2013
2:38 pm
Your opinions mean nothing to the gop
UNCLE SAMANTHA
February 5th, 2013
2:38 pm
SO WATERBOARDING A TERRORIST OR MILITARY COMBATANT IS bad
KILLING CIVILIANS IS good
SHAME
BLAME
maim
Marty Huggins'
February 5th, 2013
2:39 pm
getalife
February 5th, 2013
2:34 pm
Well I don’t know.
You’ve called me a con many times.
But I hope the GOP eliminates or silences the extreme elements of the party. Or at the least finds a program for the element who are addicted to the taste of their own feet.
Stevie Ray..Clowns to the left and Jokers to the right..here I am...
February 5th, 2013
2:40 pm
UNCLE SAMANTHA
February 5th, 2013
2:30 pm
Earlier today I was wondering about how many innocent civilians were killed for every known dead terrorists…at least in Pakistan we have an estimate
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2208307/Americas-deadly-double-tap-drone-attacks-killing-49-people-known-terrorist-Pakistan.html#axzz2K3Uou0y0
When we use the terrorist label, we should look in the mirror first.
Paul
February 5th, 2013
2:40 pm
“And all I got to say about that stewardess his wife shoved is, there wouldn’t be nothing left of her if she got into it with the missus.”
They have stewardesses on cargo planes?!!?
Thulsa Doom
February 5th, 2013
2:41 pm
“Okay, Thulsa, get ready for a couple of the regulars to show up, read our exchange, and tell us both how God isn’t happy with either one of us!”
Paul,
I dunno. You seem like a pretty righteous dude so you’re probably good with him. I’m another story. He’s probably usually pissed at me and if I up and go today I probably aint getting into the pearly gates.
I’ll watch Osteen again and try giving him another chance. The only preacher I really enjoy watching is Doug Batchelor from amazing facts. He preaches positivity, doesn’t preach hellfire and brimstone guilt ridden crap, and all the while he preaches actual doctrine and bible lessons. He also answers typical questions about the bible with thorough, rational, and logical answers. Watching him has been eye opening and taught me all the wrong things that I had believed about the bible and God for years and years. If you ever get a chance check him out at amazing facts.org. I wish every holy man was like this guy.
getalife
February 5th, 2013
2:41 pm
Marty,
So you are a gop establishment guy and side with them against the cons?
комисса́р (Occupation)
February 5th, 2013
2:41 pm
moonbat betty: “Liberals care about more about the rights of terrorists than their own citizens.”
Really? Which is why they cheer at movies that glorify the assassination mission that eliminated Osama bin Laden?
So, Hollywood is usually “liberal” in the conservative imagination. Yet that same Hollywood makes a propaganda film glorifying the aforementioned military assassination, and we hear not of word from the likes of you, moonbat betty, in the way of explanation?
Can’t have it both ways.
mm
February 5th, 2013
2:42 pm
I see the rightwing truth stretchers are out in force today.
Uh Huh...The GOP's CHICKENS are coming home to ROOST
February 5th, 2013
2:42 pm
@moonbat betty
February 5th, 2013
2:34 pm
Liberals care about more about the rights of terrorists than their own citizens.
I suppose they think the citizens they are going to whack are angry old white men.
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“rights of terrorists than their own citizens?”
That sounds like BS
“whack are angry old white men?”
That sounds like chicken scratch.
Corbin Sharpe. I think, therefore I am...I think.
February 5th, 2013
2:43 pm
Here’s a telling stat: Since the Violence Against Women Act was enacted in 1994, incidents of domestic violence have fallen by more than 50 percent.
But now VAWA has expired — and House Republicans refuse to reauthorize it. Here’s the bottom line: Programs to protect women can’t be expanded or improved until VAWA is reauthorized:
The GOP seems to be so upset with the targeting of American born terrorists that they can’t get their act together to re-authorize the Violence Against Women Act. I can’t imagine why…
Paul
February 5th, 2013
2:44 pm
Thanks, Thulsa, I’ll give it a go -
williebkind
February 5th, 2013
2:44 pm
Obamacare will cost the average family 20K a year! Does it apply to the democrat plantation or will they get to vote present.
Brosephus™
February 5th, 2013
2:45 pm
Heyward: I pray for your offspring who might……………………..be agaisnt…………………the State.
Thanks but that’s not needed. My offspring will follow the same line of DNA that has been on American soil since the 1790s. We’re 100% American and support America. We don’t dilly dally in that Libertarian crap that you peddle here as we know that there’s no “State” here as the government and the people are one and the same. You can take that “Seig Heil!” and give yourself a colonscopy with it. I don’t buy that sh*t you try to sell here.
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Moderate Line
@ 12:31
So you really don’t have problem killing innocent children. Make up your mind.
If and when I say such, then address that. Otherwise, don’t put words in my mouth and try to debate what you “think” I said. Otherwise, I’ll treat you as any other far-Rightie here that has no common sense. You’re a pretty straight up person, and I have no problem defending my words, but it will be a cold day in hell before I defend yours.
@ 12:45
Well maybe your right. I thought I could because the constitution protected speech but maybe that right is suspended as soon as go to a foreign country with no extradition treaty.
That right to protected speech only goes so far. It is not unlimited and/or unregulated. I would think that you would already know and understand that.
So your argument is if someone like yourself was just waking to the store and there was a drive by and you got shot when you were 16 it would be your fault and should not care because I was not in the hood and you should have left.
No. That’s YOUR interpretation of what you THINK my argument is. My actual argument is don’t enter a country and hang out with people who have declared war with America and expect to be completely safe. I don’t care if you’re 16 or 60. I love my mom to death, but if she posted videos online that incited people to kill Americans, you wouldn’t find me within a 100 mile radius of her.
People who get caught in drive-bys like your scenario can’t help that. Now, if you go to Afghanistan and get blown away by an IED, why would you go to Afghanistan in the first place?
Finally, if you want to know my position on something, just ask and don’t assume. I have no problem with sharing my opinons as much as I can. I would much rather you debate what I say vs what you “think” I say.
moonbat betty
February 5th, 2013
2:46 pm
“Earlier today I was wondering about how many innocent civilians were killed for every known dead terrorists…at least in Pakistan we have an estimate”
Depends on how they define a terrorist or an innocent.
If someone is not a member of AQ but are sympathetic and allow those elements to move freely among themselves, are they considered terrorists?
Probably not, but perhaps they should be?
the dog
February 5th, 2013
2:47 pm
Forgive me Jay.
Thulsa-you are a flaming azzhole. Now you are cheering that children and seniors are going hungry in America. Do you kick dogs too?
Stevie Ray..Clowns to the left and Jokers to the right..here I am...
February 5th, 2013
2:47 pm
Marty Huggins’
February 5th, 2013
2:39 pm
Yeah, you are just a conny conned con you big silly. What is your response going to be conny con? You really should get a grip because you conny are the one being conned. C’mon Conny Con, everything is good..why worry…just go away you evil destructive con..
GetaLife is like a billboard on Jay’s highway of the liberal. Every few miles she reminds us that this is an anti-con blog and don’t you ever forget it!
getalife
February 5th, 2013
2:47 pm
If you are not aq, you have nothing to worry about.
the dog
February 5th, 2013
2:47 pm
And children being raped by men of the church is fine with thulsa too. You are a disgusting pig.
Marty Huggins'
February 5th, 2013
2:48 pm
Uh Huh…The GOP’s CHICKENS are coming home to ROOST
February 5th, 2013
2:36 pm
I don’t hate or have a feeling towards inanimate objects.
I have an issue with people who do harm with or cause a byproduct causing harm with an inanimate object.
A knife is a weapon, a brick, a rock, a baseball bat.
Do you hate those too?
I have a gun that has never shot or harmed any living creature why hate it?
How about folks who stab to death with a knife, or beat to death with a brick, a rock or a baseball bat a woman or child.
You want to hate something that kills people hate cancer it kills many more than any human gun combination.
Thulsa Doom
February 5th, 2013
2:48 pm
moonbat,
That is the question of the day. Should we treat the sympathizers as the terrorists themselves?
moonbat betty
February 5th, 2013
2:49 pm
“That sounds like chicken scratch.”
Oops “our”, good one chicken man!
getalife
February 5th, 2013
2:50 pm
“this is an anti-con blog and don’t you ever forget it!”
My message failed because this blog is invested with cons.
You cons are at war with the gop establishment.
What are you going to do to fight back?
Granny Godzilla
February 5th, 2013
2:52 pm
williebkind
are you confused?
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/05/15/health-care-costs-record_n_1516380.html
or are the folks writing the headlines you read purposefully misleading you?
illyushin
February 5th, 2013
2:52 pm
Uncle Samantha, Doom, Occupation
Obama, The CIA, The FBI and our Military are trying, as hard as they can, to find and kill as many of the Al Qaeda and other terrorists as possible. These are the kind of people who carried out 9/11 and would nuke us if they could. They hide among civilians knowing that, if they are killed, innocent men, women and children will also die. They also know that con tools like you, wallowing in ideological ignorance, will loudly blame Obama and do damage to our Country.
How does it feel to be helping our enemies?
Marty Huggins'
February 5th, 2013
2:52 pm
getalife
February 5th, 2013
2:41 pm
See I just don’t have an obsession to categorize everything and everyone into groups.
Nor do I believe in group think.
I hope as a group the republican tighten up their message and silence the extreme voices of the party who allow the party to be branded as such.
Thulsa Doom
February 5th, 2013
2:53 pm
the dog
February 5th, 2013
2:47 pm
And children being raped by men of the church is fine with thulsa too. You are a disgusting pig.
Kindly point out where I said that please.
Brosephus™
February 5th, 2013
2:53 pm
skipper: I know this is not a duel, but ‘Bro has put a double-barrel high-brass a$$ whoopin’ on your lame self today
It’s not even about that. I understand where Moderate Line is coming from with the Due Process argument. My issue with that is that, when a person purposefully affilates themself with a known enemy that considers itself at war with the US, then they forfeit that right to Due Process on the battlefield. If that person is apprehended away from the battlefield or theater of action, then they should be afforded due process.
The military isn’t a police force. They are built and trained for one purpose. Either we fight a war with terrorist with the military, as we are currently doing, or we go to a police action and use the CIA, FBI, and other police agencies. In my opinion, though, we can’t do both at the same time.
UNCLE SAMANTHA
February 5th, 2013
2:54 pm
OBAMA redifining civilians
Analysis: Obama embraced redefinition of ‘civilian’ in drone wars
shame on him
hippocrit
moonbat betty
February 5th, 2013
2:54 pm
“That is the question of the day. Should we treat the sympathizers as the terrorists themselves?”
I believe so, if they are protecting known terrorists.
The left would never go for this with an “R” as president, but obviously will with a “D”.
illyushin
February 5th, 2013
2:55 pm
Marty Huggins
Are you interested in decreasing gun murders in our country.
Or, will you take the con way out by saying that, since bricks, rocks, baseball bats, etc. can cause death, we should just ignore any kind of gun controls?
the dog
February 5th, 2013
2:55 pm
Thulsa-you are a pig, own it.
Thulsa Doom
February 5th, 2013
2:28 pm
“How come CONS aren’t protesting for all the women and children MURDERED
by guns in the U. S.?”
How ya gonna protest or stop individual killers. I’ve seen plenty of black leaders stage “stop the violence” marches and protests. Doesn’t seem to do much in their communities except maybe make people stop for a few hours or a day or 2.
“How come CONS aren’t protesting for all the children who die because
of HUNGER in the U. S.?”
Really? Kids are starving to death on a regular basis in the U.S.? Got a link to show that this is a common occurrence? Cause from what I’ve seen obesity is the biggest problem in the lowest income neighborhoods.
“How come CONS aren’t protesting for all the children who are molested
by catholic priests in the U. S.?”
Lots of people including many cons were upset about it. But don’t let that stop your completely BS hyperbole.
“How come CONS aren’t protesting for all the senior citizens that are starving
in the U. S.?”
Seniors are just dropping dead left and right from starvation all over the U.S.? Sure they are buddy. I see withered up starving seniors all the time. Had to step over 3 of them that withered up and died from starvation just to get to work this morning. kd
Look at folks. It looks like we got another one a them thar fainting liberal goats.
комисса́р (Occupation)
February 5th, 2013
2:56 pm
moonbat betty: “If someone is not a member of AQ but are sympathetic and allow those elements to move freely among themselves, are they considered terrorists?”
Does hiring and working on a regular basis with Al Qaeda count as “sympathizing” with the terrorists, and are the sympathizers not also terrorists themselves?
If so, then is not the United States government some of the biggest terrorists of all, seeing as they continue to contract with Al- Qaeda affiliates right now as we speak in places like Syria, N Africa, all this of course not to even mention the very direct role played by our govenment in fueling AQ’s rise during the Soviet-Afghan war in the 1970s and 80s.
Marty Huggins'
February 5th, 2013
2:56 pm
moonbat betty
February 5th, 2013
2:46 pm
Many of the women do not exactly get a choice in the matter. The children are heavily influenced from birth.
Also in the areas they exist those who speak up against them do not often do so twice.
But they could move you know with all that wealth contained by average citizens of those regions.
the dog
February 5th, 2013
2:56 pm
and now the flaming azzhole will say he was just kidding. you are sickening.
moonbat betty
February 5th, 2013
2:57 pm
has “the cat” morphed into “the dog”?
Stevie Ray..Clowns to the left and Jokers to the right..here I am...
February 5th, 2013
2:57 pm
the dog
February 5th, 2013
2:47 pm
Cheering that seniors and children are starving…?? Check out some census numbers..
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052970204573704577185553258224344.html
BTW, if so many US folks are dying of starvation, why do you suppose we have all these domestic organizations trying to raise money for starving in foreign lands?
Spare us the drama…..
Any deaths from starvation in US are generally a result of a long period of stupidity…very few people starve to death in this country and those who do, its their own/parents fault.
getalife
February 5th, 2013
2:57 pm
Marty,
You hate the cons.
Got it.
Thulsa Doom
February 5th, 2013
2:57 pm
Illyushin,
I actually think Obama is doing a fine job in Afghanistan with the drone bombing. I’ve said that on several occasions in the past.
The only thing I find curious about it is what would have been the reaction if W was taking out civilians as collateral damage when drone bombing. The libs would have been all over him as a baby killer and war criminal. Curiously they say nothing when Obama regularly drone bombs knowing full well that women and children will die.
Thulsa Doom
February 5th, 2013
2:59 pm
moonbat betty
February 5th, 2013
2:57 pm
has “the cat” morphed into “the dog”?
Yep.
Brosephus™
February 5th, 2013
2:59 pm
That is the question of the day. Should we treat the sympathizers as the terrorists themselves?
Well, I think the precedence has already been set for that question. If you’re in a car with 3 other people and cocaine is found in the car, all 4 people are getting arrested and charged with possession. If the amount is large, then it will be possession with intent to distribute. The only way you don’t get charged is if the person who owns the drugs openly admits that the drugs belong to them and nobody else is involved with them. Even then, everybody’s still getting steel bracelets at the time the drugs are found.
If we treat drug dealers that way, how do you think we’ll treat people who are actively trying to kill us or other Americans?
TBS
February 5th, 2013
3:00 pm
the dog @ 2:47
Thulsa and I do not see eye to eye on most political issues and have had our share of back and forths.
With that said, it was obvious he was joking and put (kd) at the end of that line or post.
He provides plenty of opportunity via is posts to rebuke, debate and argue.
No need to make anything up; especially when it was evident that he was joking in that instance.
комисса́р (Occupation)
February 5th, 2013
3:01 pm
“Uncle Samantha, Doom, Occupation … They also know that con tools like you, wallowing in ideological ignorance, will loudly blame Obama”
I love sowing confusion this way. My work is done.
Marty Huggins'
February 5th, 2013
3:01 pm
illyushin
February 5th, 2013
2:55 pm
Yes I am interested in cutting that number down.
I am not convinced gun restrictions are the answer.
See Chicago, murder rate is not dropping.
UNCLE SAMANTHA
February 5th, 2013
3:02 pm
noam chomsky was right
liberal or conservative………….. the u.s. government are killers
2 presidents with nobel peace prizes sponsor killing of civilians
WHAT JIMMY CARTER ALLOWED INDONESIA TO DO TO EAST TIMOR IS SICKENING
he should give back his NOBEL and HIDE IN SHAME
Thulsa Doom
February 5th, 2013
3:03 pm
the dog (the cat),
And what specifically did I say that upset you or that you disagree with. For example in some tough inner city communities after a rash of gun violence sometimes there is a protest or march against violence. After a short period of time the gun violence picks back up again. What part of that is not true cat?
the dog
February 5th, 2013
3:03 pm
http://abcnews.go.com/US/hunger_at_home/hunger-home-american-children-malnourished/story?id=14367230
Are you proud of this Thulsa?
комисса́р (Occupation)
February 5th, 2013
3:03 pm
Brosephus: ” If you’re in a car with 3 other people and cocaine is found in the car, all 4 people are getting arrested and charged with possession. If the amount is large, then it will be possession with intent to distribute. ”
All of that presupposes a process. In other words, the rule of law. At least on some basic level.
Those who are blown to bits by a missile, however, do not by definition enjoy the right to such a process.
moonbat betty
February 5th, 2013
3:04 pm
Marty 2:56, collateral damage is an unfortunate outcome of achieving certain goals.
For example, they didn’t necessarily have to shoot the females in Osama’s bunker, but they were there knowing what he “does”, so they get whacked for the “greater good”.
Collateral damage will always be a cost of war.
Just depends on how we are going to continue to pursue them.
Marty Huggins'
February 5th, 2013
3:05 pm
getalife
February 5th, 2013
2:57 pm
Unlike you I tend to not hate other Americans because we differ in opinion.
But if that works for you go for it you already seem to be going for putting words into people’s mouths.
Those two qualities sure are a start to being an even better person than you already are
Stevie Ray..Clowns to the left and Jokers to the right..here I am...
February 5th, 2013
3:05 pm
getalife
February 5th, 2013
2:50 pm
Fight back what exactly?
I guess you are either saying that the uber-conservatives are pushing the conservatives around and fighting should ensue?
Personally, I could care less about how the GOP decides to address its dysfunctionality…the real question is how do we address our overall government which is dysfunctional at the core…??
Joe Hussein Mama
February 5th, 2013
3:06 pm
Paul — “They have stewardesses on cargo planes?!!?”
That depends.
Right about the time Flying Tiger cargo airlines got bought by FedEx, I flew on them to Japan and back (there was a teeny FedEx logo painted on the 747s tail). And yes, there were flight attendants on there.
I flew on a 7-seat Army C-12 several times. Once we did have a flight surgeon aboard who served coffee and donuts. Guess he was the flight attendant?
You can go long-haul on C-130s, C-17s, C-141s and C-5s. Flight attendants? Don’t know, never gone long-haul on them.
I’ve never been on one, but many popular aircraft types can be ordered as “combis” by the airlines; these are a combined cargo-passenger aircraft. I know that 737s and 747s can be delivered this way, and French ATRs can, too (Delta still flies some ATRs on short routes).
http://www.alaskaair.com/content/travel-info/fleet/737-400-combi.aspx
the dog
February 5th, 2013
3:07 pm
TBS-I don’t think children and the elderly going hungry is a kidding matter. If you feel it is, I suggest you look inward.
TBS
February 5th, 2013
3:00 pm
the dog @ 2:47
Thulsa and I do not see eye to eye on most political issues and have had our share of back and forths.
With that said, it was obvious he was joking and put (kd) at the end of that line or post.
He provides plenty of opportunity via is posts to rebuke, debate and argue.
No need to make anything up; especially when it was evident that he was joking in that instance.
Stevie Ray..Clowns to the left and Jokers to the right..here I am...
February 5th, 2013
3:07 pm
комисса́р (Occupation)
February 5th, 2013
3:03 pm
I was one of those 4 guys in the car…good thing that at the time I possessed willing and vivacious nasal capabilities..
the dog
February 5th, 2013
3:08 pm
Next we will hear thulsa and tbs they can beat their wives if they say they were just kidding.
Brosephus™
February 5th, 2013
3:09 pm
Those who are blown to bits by a missile, however, do not by definition enjoy the right to such a process.
Those who are blown to bits by a missile are usually on the battfield or within the theater of engagement. How do you suppose we enact such a process on the field of battle?
TBS
February 5th, 2013
3:11 pm
the dog
You can preach all day if that makes you feel better. If you want to say that part of his post was distasteful, that is your right and could be a valid point. However it was obvious that he was joking.
Call out his joke for being distasteful, but you came at him as if he said it as a matter of fact, which you know he wasn’t.
You just wanted to say that he did.
Now carry on.
комисса́р (Occupation)
February 5th, 2013
3:11 pm
Brosephus:”Those who are blown to bits by a missile are usually on the battfield or within the theater of engagement”
Not when said missile is fired from a drone hovering overhead at the funeral held for the previous one blown to bits by drones.
Stevie Ray..Clowns to the left and Jokers to the right..here I am...
February 5th, 2013
3:11 pm
THE DOG
Can you direct me to some credible source that clarifies the number of children and seniors who starve to death or otherwise have no access to our various social nets?
Of course, many who live in the streets who suffer from addiction diseases and any number of mental illnesses when the safety net proceeds are not put toward food, that is a real problem. Other than that or criminal intent, I haven’t been able to find credible census or other data to suggest this is as big a deal as you are suggesting.
Thulsa Doom
February 5th, 2013
3:12 pm
the cat posing as the dog,
We have free breakfast and free lunch programs for kids that are poor. And then food stamps on top of all that. And then private charity programs and food banks on top of all that.
TBS
February 5th, 2013
3:12 pm
dog
As long as it is within the rules of this blog, I will say what I damn well please.
Your assertions about me, mean nothing to me or anyone else for that matter.
Now carry on with your daily crying shtick
skipper
February 5th, 2013
3:12 pm
DROOOOOOOONNNNNNNNNNEEEEEEE…….BAM!
Popped a’nuddon’……….
Why do you think only repubs want to get rid of these parasites??? I am not one at all, but understand the need.
Marty Huggins'
February 5th, 2013
3:13 pm
moonbat betty
February 5th, 2013
3:04 pm
That was a siege operation and I assume they were not executing women who were not actively trying to kill them. Their mission was the target, the women opposed them from getting to the target and directly endangered their lives.
You’re not claiming they executed them are you?
I see women pointing guns at you as far different from sitting at a table with a terrorist.
Does knowing a terrorist or even agreeing with a terrorist mean one deserves to die in your opinion?
Stevie Ray..Clowns to the left and Jokers to the right..here I am...
February 5th, 2013
3:15 pm
Brosephus™
February 5th, 2013
3:09 pm
I did find a study of Pakistan where the estimated ratio of innocent deaths to bad guy deaths is 49:1…
Cmon BRO, most of these folks have no idea they are in a theatre of war or what a theatre of war is…we probably have no need to kill many of these targets in the first place. Of course it leaves no evidence to we are free to alledge all these killings are justified..
Thulsa Doom
February 5th, 2013
3:17 pm
the dog
February 5th, 2013
3:08 pm
Next we will hear thulsa and tbs they can beat their wives if they say they were just kidding.
the cat posing as the dog,
In my last paragraph where I speak of stepping over dead, starved seniors I put kd after it. kd is my kook disclaimer. Its meant to be satire. The same kind of satire that Jonothan Swift used when chastising the British when he suggested that they eat Irish newborns to rememdy the problem of Irish overpopulation. But I suppose Swift was an A-hole to wasn’t he?
the dog
February 5th, 2013
3:18 pm
Have at it pigs. It matters a lot to me there are those that think kids and elderly folks going hungry is a laughing matter. That is just sick.
Brosephus™
February 5th, 2013
3:18 pm
Not when said missile is fired from a drone hovering overhead at the funeral held for the previous one blown to bits by drones.
I don’t recall terrorists observing such “time out” rules either. I’m not saying that I outright agree with such a tactic, but war is war. When you espouse war against someone, you can’t call time outs later on until you decide to end your hostilities completely or negotiate a cease fire. Something tells me that AQ and it’s affiliates are not interested in any cease fire negotiations.
the dog
February 5th, 2013
3:20 pm
Thulsa-but I know you aren’t joking. YOu are just a mean little prick hiding behind your kd. I’m calling BS on your fat azz and little prick.
Your kook disclaimer is bs and you know it.
TBS
February 5th, 2013
3:20 pm
“Have at it pigs”
I probably could stand to cut back on my pork consumption. I don’t eat it daily by any means, but until I see fit will certainly have at it.
Thulsa Doom
February 5th, 2013
3:21 pm
the dog,
I’m not laughing about people going hungry. I’m laughing at people like you and Uh huh who think that people are starving to death on a regular basis in the U.S. I’ve no doubt that people go hungry from time to time because they don’t know how to access resources. But their are plenty of resources out there so that nobody in this country should literally be starving to death.
illyushin
February 5th, 2013
3:21 pm
doom – 2:57
It’s one thing for Bush or Obama to order drone attacks. It would be another thing for them to personally pick the targets and push the buttons.
Obviously, civilians WERE killed on many of the drone strikes ordered by Bush. Liberals said nothing because they knew then, as we still know now, that terrorists would purposely hide among them.
Libs did the right thing and said nothing.
Cons, thinking only of their ideology and Party, trash Obama every chance they get.
Tom Middleton
February 5th, 2013
3:21 pm
Do you think if Karl had known in the beginning that his “permanent conservative majority” would mean a permanent trek to the right he would have changed his mind? Sure looks like it from here.
Maybe he should have stopped with Dubya or never started at all, for all he’s ever really done is make matters worse!
the dog
February 5th, 2013
3:22 pm
TBS-trying to fit in at the supposed in his dreams kewl kid’s table by kissing up to thulsa? Really, you have stooped that low?
Moderate Line
February 5th, 2013
3:23 pm
Paul
February 5th, 2013
2:06 pm
Moderate Line
If one accepts the war on terror (or whatever title one wants to use) is a war then rules of war apply. “Due process” is not a concept we’ve extended to the battlefield. As I read your scenario, a person like al-Awlaki would have to have a warrant issued for his apprehension, military couldn’t do it, law enforcement would, he’d have to be Mirandized, brought to trial within certain timelines, etc.
To put it in terms many of a certain era on this blog would understand.
You’re with 0311 and Recon and a few others on patrol in Vietnam. You see ahead of you a group on NVA coming right at you with an American in black pajamas and an NVA helmet walking point, carrying AK. According to what I’ve read of your posts, the Marines would have to withhold fire on the American and accord him due process of criminal law.
You would be incorrect on my position. The two scenarios given are not even related. In one case you have to make a decision in the moment to decided whither this person is a hostile. The other is a specific attack on an individual. When the police go after a criminal and the criminal poses a physical threat the police have the right to take what measures are necessary to take him out. Let’s say you capture the American in the raid without killing him. What would you do at that point. Prisoners of war have certain rights but the capture prisoner could be tried for treason.
Also, I did not see where you answered my earlier question of ” the guy in the bunker, whom the authorities determined posed an imminent threat to the little boy, whose capture they felt was infeasible, so the authorities struck according to current legal practices: was that guy an American citizen killed without due process?
I did not see your earlier statement. No. Again. Do process does not mean authorities do not have the ability to react to an imminent threat.
Lets keep some important facts in mind. This guy was so dangerous that in 2002 we had him in custody for passport fraud and released him. Also, he was captured by the Yemen’s in 2006. So you have to factor in that he was in custody twice and released.
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/03/07/mueller-grilled-on-fbis-release-al-awlaki-in-2002/
Paul
February 5th, 2013
3:23 pm
” many popular aircraft types can be ordered as “combis” by the airlines; these are a combined cargo-passenger aircraft.”
Thanks, Joe Hussein Mama.
Guess we oughta get a notice out to the flight attendants’ union letting them know if they get a redneck with a PBR t-shirt and a 300 and some-odd-pounder woman carrying a cast iron frying pan on board to treat her reeeeeeal nice -
Brosephus™
February 5th, 2013
3:24 pm
I did find a study of Pakistan where the estimated ratio of innocent deaths to bad guy deaths is 49:1…
Once again for the reading challenged….
I am not condoning targeting and killing of innocent civilians. I seriously doubt that members of AQ are going all over the place preaching hatred and death to the US and coming home and acting like Mr. Cleaver without a single person at home knowing what he’s doing. If we’re going to use drone strikes, then I agree that we need to have better intelligence on who and what we’re hitting. If and when AQ, the Taliban, and anybody else killing our soldiers drop their arms, we should immediately cease any hostile actions towards them.
Cmon BRO, most of these folks have no idea they are in a theatre of war or what a theatre of war is
In 2009, there were Afghani citizens who had never heard of the 9/11 attacks. Once again, Donald Rumsfeld could have and should have used the air force to beat the training camps into powder. We did not have to put boots on the ground to disrupt the terrorist networks. We’re never going to get rid of them, and the continued presence in Afghanistan is pretty much proof of that.
the dog
February 5th, 2013
3:24 pm
As of 2009, there were almost 1 million seniors in the U.S. who go hungry because they cannot afford to buy food. Another 5 million seniors in the U.S. faced the threat of hunger. In one of the world’s richest nations, no older American should be going hungry. However instead, in recent years, hunger rates have more than doubled for poor seniors in the country, and it is likely to get worse as the older population is the fastest growing cohort of the U.S. population.
комисса́р (Occupation)
February 5th, 2013
3:24 pm
By the way, it’s interesting to note that there’s probably been more commentary here today on the morality of drones and the security/military industrial complex than all the previous days put together.
How to explain it?
Could it be that as the GOP coalition undergoes more and more strain, this is freeing up previously marginalized right-leaning libertarian sentiments to be voiced much more freely, sometimes even after having been marginalized in the minds of the very same people?
If that’s indicative of a larger trend, this could get interesting indeed.
the dog
February 5th, 2013
3:24 pm
Left off the cite:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/enid-borden/senior-hunger-in-america-_b_900233.html
Thulsa Doom
February 5th, 2013
3:24 pm
“Thulsa-but I know you aren’t joking. YOu are just a mean little prick hiding behind your kd. I’m calling BS on your fat azz and little prick”
I can’t help it. Now you’re just cracking me up.
the dog
February 5th, 2013
3:25 pm
Still laughing thulsa and tbs? Hope you don’t have any elderly relatives going hungry tonight. Wish one of you would experience hunger to know what it feels like for just one night.
Thulsa Doom
February 5th, 2013
3:28 pm
“TBS-trying to fit in at the supposed in his dreams kewl kid’s table by kissing up to thulsa? Really, you have stooped that low?”
the cat posing as the dog,
I think TBS has pretty well made it known that he doesn’t kiss up to ole Doomy. But he doesn’t kiss up to you either and your namecalling either.
Skip
February 5th, 2013
3:30 pm
Having been in one I believe in killing everything in your path. I also believe in thinking a lot longer and harder than we do before going in. If you’re not willing to go all the way stay home.
Paul
February 5th, 2013
3:32 pm
Moderate Line
“You would be incorrect on my position.”
Hopefully you will finally lay it out.
” The two scenarios given are not even related.”
Two war zones, two Americans working with the enemy to kill Americans is not related? O-kaaaaayyyy…..
“In one case you have to make a decision in the moment to decided whither this person is a hostile. ”
A caucasian walking point in an NVA column carrying a weapon… is he a hostile?
You’re stretching credulity here.
“Let’s say you capture the American in the raid without killing him”
Big, big difference between engaging a person on the battlefield and having custody of a disarmed person. But that was never a factor in either situation.
2002? 2006? al-Awlaki was killed in 2011. There’s a big gap there.
Still haven’t seen where you’ve clearly stated what due process is in the al-Awlaki scenario.
And, you have not demonstrated that the actions of the Bush and Obama Administrations did not follow due process, either in the development of the process or in how it is carried out.
Thulsa Doom
February 5th, 2013
3:33 pm
“Still laughing thulsa and tbs?”
I’m not laughing at people going hungry. I’m laughing at your meltdown.
“Hope you don’t have any elderly relatives going hungry tonight.”
I don’t. But if I did I would damn sure help them.
“Wish one of you would experience hunger to know what it feels like for just one night.”
I’ve missed meals before and gone hungry and missed a couple of meals. Its not that big a deal. About a billion Muslims either do it or are supposed to do it from sunup to sundown during the month of Ramadan. Its called fasting.
Jefferson
February 5th, 2013
3:33 pm
Paul, PBR, when fresh is a fine brew. Premium beer at a popular price…
Moderate Line
February 5th, 2013
3:35 pm
Brosephus™
February 5th, 2013
2:45 pm
Heyward: I pray for your offspring who might……………………..be agaisnt…………………the State.
Thanks but that’s not needed. My offspring will follow the same line of DNA that has been on American soil since the 1790s. We’re 100% American and support America. We don’t dilly dally in that Libertarian crap that you peddle here as we know that there’s no “State” here as the government and the people are one and the same. You can take that “Seig Heil!” and give yourself a colonscopy with it. I don’t buy that sh*t you try to sell here.
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Moderate Line
@ 12:31
So you really don’t have problem killing innocent children. Make up your mind.
If and when I say such, then address that. Otherwise, don’t put words in my mouth and try to debate what you “think” I said. Otherwise, I’ll treat you as any other far-Rightie here that has no common sense. You’re a pretty straight up person, and I have no problem defending my words, but it will be a cold day in hell before I defend yours
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I was merely making issue with how lightly you dismiss the 16 year olds life just because he is died because who he hung out with.
I should change my name to the far rightie who voted for Obama.
I don’t recall asking you to defend anything.
moonbat betty
February 5th, 2013
3:37 pm
Marty-
“Does knowing a terrorist or even agreeing with a terrorist mean one deserves to die in your opinion?”
Depends on the value of the target and what that person’s connection is to that target.
UNCLE SAMANTHA
February 5th, 2013
3:42 pm
OBAMA AND THE LIBERALS ARE HIPPOCRITS
SHOULD BE ASHAMED OF THEMSELVES
BUT THEY ARE NOT
Obama Administration Interrogating Terror Suspects Locked Up Abroad (Again)
http://www.motherjones.com/mojo/2013/01/remix-rendition-proxy-detention
Keep Up the Good Fight!
February 5th, 2013
3:42 pm
Does knowing a terrorist or even agreeing with a terrorist mean one deserves to die in your opinion
Well that would depend. If its Bill Ayers, death may be one of many desired outcomes.
Marty Huggins'
February 5th, 2013
3:42 pm
moonbat betty
February 5th, 2013
3:37 pm
I guess we disagree on that.
I sure wouldn’t want to ever think I was in danger at a family reunion.
I got some crazy country folk on one branch of our tree. God only knows what they have been into.
They seem like the white supremacist types. Difficult to understand what they are saying. From a special place of Appalachia.
Marty Huggins'
February 5th, 2013
3:45 pm
Keep Up the Good Fight!
February 5th, 2013
3:42 pm
Hadn’t thought of that.
Had the us been in the practice of drones against terrorist at that time in his life He would have been in danger himself.
Kinda ironic,” doncha think, yeah I really do think”
Paul
February 5th, 2013
3:46 pm
Jefferson
And it is also Redneck Convert’s brew of choice and the one he hauls more than any other.
getalife
February 5th, 2013
3:47 pm
Loves me some gop civil war and popcorn.
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
February 5th, 2013
3:50 pm
For example, the Wall Street types who financed the GOP’s 2012 campaign, donating hundreds of millions of dollars to the party as well as to the SuperPACs run by Karl Rove and others, are not a happy lot.
Boo-freakin’-hoo
http://tinyurl.com/4zsrpfj
TBS
February 5th, 2013
3:51 pm
dog
Thulsa and I are cordial at best, going at it at other times.
Your wanting to pair us up because I called out your stupidity is nothing but your problem, not mine nor Thulsa’s.
Again, you took him out of context even though he said he was joking.
If you had replied to him about his joke being distasteful or over the top, I wouldn’t have said anything to you.
Anything you want to say directly or indirectly about me is your choice not matter how wrong it might be.
Rock on…
Lefty Dog
February 5th, 2013
3:51 pm
Don’t get overconfident, my Democratic friends. The GOP governors are gerrymandering like crazy so their states will go GOP in the next Presidential election even if the popular vote isn’t there. We could win like crazy but lose the electoral vote. May be time to kick out the EC and go strictly popular.
moonbat betty
February 5th, 2013
3:54 pm
“I got some crazy country folk on one branch of our tree. God only knows what they have been into.”
Marty,
If your relatives are a direct threat to the security of the United States, it is not now, nor has it ever been safe to attend a “family outing” with them.
Stevie Ray..Clowns to the left and Jokers to the right..here I am...
February 5th, 2013
3:54 pm
UNCLE SAMANTHA
February 5th, 2013
3:42 pm
Everyone is a hypocrite at some point or another. It’s either called learning growth or a short memory..
Keep Up the Good Fight!
February 5th, 2013
3:55 pm
Marty, it would be unlikely unless the terrorist was off US soil and not sure it meets the other requirements (war requirements, for example)…. Of course the “pout” about being punished for being a “friend of a terrorist” in the conned world does not go deep in real intellect. It remains on the superficial knee jerk level. The whole reason this comes up however is because of continued “progressive” interest in determining what is going on despite the claims of the idiot right. There should be discussion on what is and is not appropriate which is not what the ODS crowd is pouting about.
Brosephus™
February 5th, 2013
3:56 pm
I was merely making issue with how lightly you dismiss the 16 year olds life just because he is died because who he hung out with.
Context doesn’t translate very well over the internet. I don’t lightly dismiss anybody’s death whether deserved or not. Life is full of choices, and we’re faced with making them day in and day out. If you were privy to the things I see, read, and hear, you would know that age is irrelevant.
http://afghanistan.blogs.cnn.com/2011/05/11/madrassa-teaches-children-to-hate-u-s/
I don’t openly dismiss anything. I have actual experience in dealing with people in this mindset
getalife
February 5th, 2013
3:56 pm
Psst, the libs took on the DLC and won.
Fight back cons.
Stevie Ray..Clowns to the left and Jokers to the right..here I am...
February 5th, 2013
3:56 pm
JAY
Kyle is posing a terrific question on his current post. Why can’t our president cut spending by even 2.3%? Gosh, I could cut that by foregoing starbucks a few days a week..
williebkind
February 5th, 2013
3:58 pm
GG
Please! Look who is the one confused! The huffingtonpost?
“or are the folks writing the headlines you read purposefully misleading you?”
Yep they sure are.
DownInAlbany
February 5th, 2013
4:01 pm
Enter your comments here
Keep Up the Good Fight!
February 5th, 2013
4:02 pm
Stevie, now now sonny boy, if you want to talk lies and garbage, you stay over at Kyles. Don’t track that trash in here.
Latrina
February 5th, 2013
4:02 pm
How fitting that Karl Rove (T*rd Blossom) is the new face of the GOP.
The nation needs two competitive political parties for balance, but the R’s appear to be on the ropes and in disarray now. I figured they were done when GA and SC went for Newt in the primary.
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
February 5th, 2013
4:02 pm
Enter your comments anywhere else but here
Stevie Ray..Clowns to the left and Jokers to the right..here I am...
February 5th, 2013
4:02 pm
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
February 5th, 2013
3:50 pm
Wall Street, not unlike the way Goldman betted against the investments they sold to their own customers, gives pretty equally to both parties…2008 60% to DEMs and 2012 57% to GOP.
They never lose…wonder why BO never pursued all his emotional rhetorical promises to bring down the criminals of wall street and the telecoms…guess why?
http://money.cnn.com/2012/09/05/investing/wall-street-elections/index.html
williebkind
February 5th, 2013
4:03 pm
“May be time to kick out the EC and go strictly popular.”
What did Obama say about that pesky constitution?
Liberals sure are funny! They can read a part of the constitution and come up with abortion and read the 2nd amendment and come up with muskets. I never have a day without humor.
Stevie Ray..Clowns to the left and Jokers to the right..here I am...
February 5th, 2013
4:03 pm
Keep Up the Good Fight!
February 5th, 2013
4:02 pm
I understand your concern about answering questions your leader will not…but where is the lie?
Brosephus™
February 5th, 2013
4:03 pm
Moderate Line: I don’t recall asking you to defend anything.
Pardon me for misreading your 12:31 statement then where you said, “So you really don’t have problem killing innocent children. Make up your mind.”
Seems that telling someone to make up their mind is a form of asking them to defend something they’ve said. Prior to that sentence, you seem to think that I’ve said or insinuated that I have no problem killing innocent children. That would be putting words in my mouth. If I read that wrong, then forgive me of accusing you of something you did not do.
DownInAlbany
February 5th, 2013
4:04 pm
The cbo announced today they expect 8% unemployment, 1.5% GDP and 7 million to lose their insurance under aca. You folks good with that?
williebkind
February 5th, 2013
4:05 pm
“If I read that wrong, then forgive me of accusing you of something you did not do.”
We call that a “drive-by”.
Brosephus™
February 5th, 2013
4:06 pm
Why can’t our president cut spending by even 2.3%?
He can’t do that. Congress has to legislate that, and then he can SIGN that legislation. To pose a question such as that is intellectually dishonest. The question would be better phrased as, “Why can’t our president propose/advocate/campaign for Congress to cut spending by even 2.3%?”
Thomas
February 5th, 2013
4:06 pm
Why can’t our president cut spending by even 2.3%? Gosh, I could cut that by foregoing starbucks a few days a week..
Joker- used to could but now folks now hooked on the $7 Costa Rica Finca Palmilera from Starbucks. I have had to get a second on my home and recently sold my second kid to a third world country.
Moderate Line
February 5th, 2013
4:10 pm
Brosephus™
February 5th, 2013
4:06 pm
Why can’t our president cut spending by even 2.3%?
He can’t do that. Congress has to legislate that, and then he can SIGN that legislation. To pose a question such as that is intellectually dishonest. The question would be better phrased as, “Why can’t our president propose/advocate/campaign for Congress to cut spending by even 2.3%?”
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I don’t realize that in order for a budget to pass it requires congress to pass and the president to sign it. Well guess there is two of us.
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
February 5th, 2013
4:10 pm
To pose a question such as that is intellectually dishonest.
Springeresque.
Corbin Sharpe. I think, therefore I am...I think.
February 5th, 2013
4:12 pm
So people…some light reading …
Human Rights Report: 54 Countries Helped CIA After 9/11
Tuesday, 05 Feb 2013 10:36 AM
By Lisa Barron
new report due out on Tuesday reveals that the CIA had help from some 54 countries in operating the agency’s detention and interrogation program after the Sept. 11, 2001 terrorist attacks, according to the New York Times.
The report by the Open Society Justice Initiative, a human rights advocacy group, details how countries offered different kinds of assistance to the United States in the mission against al-Qaida, including the establishment of secret prisons on their soil and use of their airports for refueling planes while transferring prisoners to other countries.
Amrit Singh, author of the “Globalizing Torture” report, told the Times she found evidence that 25 countries in Europe, 14 in Asia, and 13 in Africa, as well as Canada and Australia, had lent support to the CIA. Among the nations who aided the agency were Thailand, Romania, Poland, Lithuania, Denmark, and Gambia.
“The moral cost of these programs was born not just by the U.S. but by the 54 other countries it recruited to help,” said Singh.
The report names 136 people who had been held or transferred by the CIA and details what, when, and where they were held, the biggest list yet compiled, the Times noted.
Many have condemned the interrogation techniques used by the CIA on terrorist suspects, denouncing them as torture and maintaining that they were both ineffective and illegal.
Former Bush administration officials have insisted that the so-called enhanced interrogation methods, such as water boarding and putting people in boxes, were needed to obtain information that was valuable in the war on terror.
The debate has once again heated up with the release of the film “Zero Dark Thirty,” which chronicles the hunt for Osama bin Laden and portrays torture as one of the methods used on CIA captives to get information.
President Barack Obama has banned torture, but after taking office in 2009 he opted not to set up a national commission investigating the use of such practices.
Singh told the Times that the U.S. had violated domestic and international law and that its efforts to avoid accountability were “beginning to break down.”
The Senate Intelligence Committee recently finished its own study of the CIA detention and investigation program, but it is classified and may never be released.
© 2013 Newsmax. All rights reserved.
Keep Up the Good Fight!
February 5th, 2013
4:12 pm
Well let’s see. Spending has been cut. So Stevie, your premise is wrong. To discuss without the lie would require you first be honest about what has been done.
Ooooohhhh, and don’t forget the pout from your conned friends about the ODS on the economy shrinking.
Moderate Line
February 5th, 2013
4:12 pm
Brosephus™
February 5th, 2013
4:03 pm
Moderate Line: I don’t recall asking you to defend anything.
Pardon me for misreading your 12:31 statement then where you said, “So you really don’t have problem killing innocent children. Make up your mind.”
Seems that telling someone to make up their mind is a form of asking them to defend something they’ve said. Prior to that sentence, you seem to think that I’ve said or insinuated that I have no problem killing innocent children. That would be putting words in my mouth. If I read that wrong, then forgive me of accusing you of something you did not do.
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I avoid putting words in peoples mouths but I can see where you might get defensive with my wording. No problem.
UNCLE SAMANTHA
February 5th, 2013
4:14 pm
HOW TO CUT 2.3%
USE DEFENSE SPENDING CUTS
http://security.blogs.cnn.com/2012/10/09/army-to-congress-thanks-but-no-tanks/
Plus, from its point of view the Army would prefer to decide what it needs and doesn’t need to keep America strong while making tough economic cuts elsewhere.
“When a relatively conservative institution like the U.S. military, which doesn’t like to take risks because risks get people killed, says it has enough tanks, I think generally civilians should be inclined to believe them,” said Travis Sharp a fellow at the defense think tank, New American Security.
But guess which group of civilians isn’t inclined to agree with the generals on this point?
Congress.
To be exact, 173 House members – Democrats and Republicans – sent a letter April 20 to Defense Secretary Leon Panetta, urging him to continue supporting their decision to produce more tanks.
That’s right. Lawmakers who frequently and loudly proclaim that presidents should listen to generals when it comes to battlefield decisions are refusing to take its own advice.
Brosephus™
February 5th, 2013
4:15 pm
Moderate Line
Even passing a budget bill would not cut spending by one cent. In order to cut spending, it has to be done through the appropriations bills, and the president has absolutely no say so in that. The appropriations come from the House of Representatives. Therefore, if any cuts are to be done, they have to come from the GOP House and pass through the Dem Senate.
We’re more likely to see $39 flights to the moon before such a bill can be crafted by this current Congress.
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
February 5th, 2013
4:18 pm
Do THE SONS OF CONFEDERATE VETERANS! ever express their ire?
pogo
February 5th, 2013
4:19 pm
Another fluff piece byJay about the demise of the Republican Party. Well done Comrade Jay, well done.
Moderate Line
February 5th, 2013
4:19 pm
Corbin Sharpe. I think, therefore I am…I think.
February 5th, 2013
4:12 pm
So people…some light reading …
Human Rights Report: 54 Countries Helped CIA After 9/11
Tuesday, 05 Feb 2013 10:36 AM
By Lisa Barron
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Here is what I gather from today’s conversation. We can’t use enhance interrogation techniques but release them back into their home country and we killed them with a drone attack. But guess I am the only one who sees the irony.
cloudodust
February 5th, 2013
4:21 pm
When it comes to the Left analyzing the Right, believe nothing of what you read and nothing of what you hear. Conversely, it’s all accurate…
Keep Up the Good Fight!
February 5th, 2013
4:22 pm
We’re more likely to see $39 flights to the moon before such a bill can be crafted by this current Congress.
Ummm, does that price include one of them porn stars? Can I swap a porn star for, say, a swimsuit model for SI (female please, no speedo models).
josef
February 5th, 2013
4:22 pm
K”CHAK
Was wondering that myself…
HEY, IMAM, these sheets stink…
Brosephus™
February 5th, 2013
4:23 pm
Moderate Line: I avoid putting words in peoples mouths but I can see where you might get defensive with my wording. No problem.
It’s all good. As I said, it’s my bad if I was reading you wrong. Context is difficult to pick up in written conversation where it would be much easier when it’s vocal conversation.
Brosephus™
February 5th, 2013
4:25 pm
Keep Up
Moderate Line
February 5th, 2013
4:25 pm
Brosephus™
February 5th, 2013
4:15 pm
Moderate Line
Even passing a budget bill would not cut spending by one cent. In order to cut spending, it has to be done through the appropriations bills, and the president has absolutely no say so in that. The appropriations come from the House of Representatives. Therefore, if any cuts are to be done, they have to come from the GOP House and pass through the Dem Senate.
We’re more likely to see $39 flights to the moon before such a bill can be crafted by this current Congress.
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You know the process well. Most people do not really understand our government. Not that it is easy to understand.
pogo
February 5th, 2013
4:26 pm
Damnit, we have to get rid of those “assault” weapons that are killing so many Americans! Drones killing Americans, well that is ok. Just as long as the victim is a “terrorist”. What kind of bothers me is who exactly is the person or persons that is making the judgement of what constitutes a “terrorist”? Of course ole Jay isn’t worried about that. He is too consumed writing the epitaph for the GOP. Loser.
Thomas
February 5th, 2013
4:26 pm
http://www.advisorone.com/2013/02/05/top-10-most-regressive-tax-states?t=income-planning&utm_source=dailywire20513&utm_medium=enewsletter&utm_campaign=dailywire&page=6
kind of interesting tid bits- 10 most regressive states for taxes- Ga. not #10- yeah
Jefferson
February 5th, 2013
4:27 pm
$1 PBR
http://www.chefhenrys.com/ai1ec_event/mardi-gras/?instance_id=2257
josef
February 5th, 2013
4:29 pm
Speaking of conservatives, the latest polls show that Mississippi is no longer the most conservative state in the union and less than half of it’s polled respondents identified as such…
Madge From Accounting
February 5th, 2013
4:29 pm
If your relatives are a direct threat to the security of the United States, it is not now, nor has it ever been safe to attend a “family outing” with them.
You guys are crazy. I mean historically people like the NeoNazies, KKK, SLA, Black Panthers, etc.; have been around a long time, (except for the original Panther party which is now defunct); they’ve talked a lot of trash about the US, starting race wars, etc.; yet they are still in existence.
Uncle Same didn’t bomb them; didn’t kill them or their children. They did something worse –
They infiltrated them, got a hold of the books, and then broke them financially. You don’t need bullets or drones to kill someone who doesn’t have the money to buy bullets.
Thulsa Doom
February 5th, 2013
4:30 pm
Dontcha just hate it when garbage like men objectify women? Especially after accusing someone else of the same. Too funny.
keith
February 5th, 2013
4:30 pm
I just found out why obama hates the NRA so much. His hometown of Chicago and Oak Park IL had to write them checks totally 1.4 million dollars. So an a life member of the NRA thank you Chicago and Oak Park for your support. LOL
pogo
February 5th, 2013
4:30 pm
Time to change topics Jay. What comes next? Hmm let’s see; you’ve covered the old death of the GOP so what ’s it going to be? Oh, the agony waiting! Quick Jay, getalife just can ‘t wait.
Thulsa Doom
February 5th, 2013
4:31 pm
josef,
I reckon that means you Mississippians are becoming more enlightened.
keith
February 5th, 2013
4:32 pm
Why would obama want to use drones to murder Americans right here at home? Is he that afraid of us?
Keep Up the Good Fight!
February 5th, 2013
4:32 pm
Ohhh, someone is just begging for attention. Don’t feed the scumtroll
Thulsa Doom
February 5th, 2013
4:33 pm
“They infiltrated them, got a hold of the books, and then broke them financially. You don’t need bullets or drones to kill someone who doesn’t have the money to buy bullets.”
We need to send some CPAs to war against the Taliban.
keith
February 5th, 2013
4:33 pm
Guess that means more people in Mississippi are becoming dependant on the govt for every thing they get.
Redcoat
February 5th, 2013
4:33 pm
Meanwhile……Your government is watching you!…..drones seem to be Obama’s current favorite…..
josef
February 5th, 2013
4:34 pm
THULSA
Nyanh, more endarkened!
keith
February 5th, 2013
4:34 pm
GOP and NRA. Bookman just goes back and forth. Dudes infatuated.
Madge From Accounting
February 5th, 2013
4:34 pm
Damnit, we have to get rid of those “assault” weapons that are killing so many Americans! Drones killing Americans, well that is ok. Just as long as the victim is a “terrorist”.
On the one hand, you’re all FOR waterboarding and torture. (Bush)
On the other hand, you are NOT for drone attacks.(Obama)
wishy washy stuff, i tell ya…..
Thulsa Doom
February 5th, 2013
4:35 pm
I believe the garbage man just had to pay ole Doomy some attention a bit earlier today. Trash boy just couldn’t help himself.
josef
February 5th, 2013
4:36 pm
Keith…
Nyanh… more are coming off the dole, just bringing their experiences and perspectives of having been there with them…
Thulsa Doom
February 5th, 2013
4:36 pm
josef,
Ya stinkin Racist!
keith
February 5th, 2013
4:38 pm
Keith…
Nyanh… more are coming off the dole, just bringing their experiences and perspectives of having been there with them…
LIAR. More people are on the dole thanks to your magic negro.
josef
February 5th, 2013
4:38 pm
THULSA
I’ll have you know, i don’t stink…
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
February 5th, 2013
4:38 pm
…thanks to your magic negro.
There’s your sign.
Keep Up the Good Fight!
February 5th, 2013
4:39 pm
magic negro?
Was that kind of stupidity really necessary?
Thulsa Doom
February 5th, 2013
4:39 pm
josef,
You lotus blossom smelling racist!
josef
February 5th, 2013
4:42 pm
keith
Not in Mississippi…and I agree that was a pretty tacky comment, and for the record, I’m not an Obamanista…
THULSA
Now, that’s more like it!
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
February 5th, 2013
4:43 pm
Someone may have already posted this but …………… trouble in paradise !
Headline: “City in Virginia Becomes First to Pass Anti-Drone Legislation”
http://www.usnews.com/news/articles/2013/02/05/city-in-virginia-becomes-first-to-pass-anti-drone-legislation-
Moderate Line
February 5th, 2013
4:45 pm
Madge From Accounting
February 5th, 2013
4:29 pm
If your relatives are a direct threat to the security of the United States, it is not now, nor has it ever been safe to attend a “family outing” with them.
You guys are crazy. I mean historically people like the NeoNazies, KKK, SLA, Black Panthers, etc.; have been around a long time, (except for the original Panther party which is now defunct); they’ve talked a lot of trash about the US, starting race wars, etc.; yet they are still in existence.
Uncle Same didn’t bomb them; didn’t kill them or their children. They did something worse –
They infiltrated them, got a hold of the books, and then broke them financially. You don’t need bullets or drones to kill someone who doesn’t have the money to buy bullets.
+++++++++++++
I agree with your point but you see what I believe it was Missouri did to the KKK. They wiped them out.
Jay
February 5th, 2013
4:45 pm
Fresh sheets
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
February 5th, 2013
4:46 pm
Ooops ! More Trouble in Paradise !
Headline: “Flash Mob Mayhem: Violent Groups Of Teens Leave NYC Businesses In Ruins”
http://newyork.cbslocal.com/2013/02/04/flash-mob-mayhem-violent-groups-of-teens-leave-nyc-neighborhoods-in-disarray/
TRANSLATION: Our culture continues to deteriorate.
Keep Up the Good Fight!
February 5th, 2013
4:46 pm
Oh no…. now only the criminals will have drones!
saywhat?
February 5th, 2013
4:47 pm
I welcome the demise of the Republican party, should it ever come. It has outlived its usefulness and deteriorated to the point of absurdity. I hope to see a split in the Democratic party, with the few remaining sane Republicans joining the considerable number of conservative Dems (the wingnuts here likely consider them “socialists”) as one party, and the more progressive dems adding the more sane real semi-socialists and envrionmentalists to their ranks. It would be a much healthier two party system, one open to rational compromises despite genuine differences.
skipper
February 5th, 2013
4:47 pm
Time for somethin’ else Jay..this’n is stale…………………..and my hero ‘Bro is being decent to moderate.
Jay
February 5th, 2013
5:03 pm
Yes, absolutely it makes sense, Moderate.
A terrorist in our custody, like an enemy soldier in our custody, no longer poses a danger to anybody. They have been rendered harmless under the laws of war.
A terrorist NOT in our custody still poses a great danger, and we have the right of self-defense to end that danger by killing him if necessary.
During WWII, we had captured German soldiers held in rural areas of our own country practically walking around at will, while we were killing their colleagues on an industrial scale. Why? For exactly the reasons outlined above.
skipper
February 5th, 2013
5:06 pm
Drones…..terrorists..folks dying. Thats what they get………quit attacking folks, get real jobs, and quit using islam as an excuse to be a sorry killer.
skipper
February 5th, 2013
5:06 pm
Helluva post just then, Jay!
Jay
February 5th, 2013
5:07 pm
“Keep in mind he was in custody twice after Ft. Hood. Once in the US and once in Yemen.
Do you have a cite for that claim, Moderate? The Fort Hood shooting was 2009; my understanding is al Alwaki went underground in 2006-07.
Jay
February 5th, 2013
5:14 pm
Well, it’s a bit premature to concluded that, isn’t it? I mean, we just don’t know. Right?
No, we know. God was not willing to let him continue, because he is dead. Now, as to the outcome of the larger struggle ….?
Vast Right Wing Conspiracy (aka "Knuckle-Dragger")
February 5th, 2013
7:21 pm
In general, here’s the way we look at it, Jay (short version).
You guys are well on the way to destroying the place (and gleefullly so). The Republican establishment will do the same, just on a longer time frame. We have nothing to lose by endeavoring to get rid of the Republican establishment and trying to right the ship (pardon the pun) before it sinks. This is obviously a calculated risk, but necessary for the continuance of the democratic republic (or what remains of it). We owe it to our children and grandchildren.
independent thinker
February 5th, 2013
8:47 pm
As Rove would preach- all this nonsense can’t be possibly Rove and the big donor’s fault- Blame Romney and Ryan for the GOP’s failures. Can’t trust those g-d da-n Mormons just like Rove predicted.