GOP’s ire, once directed at Obama, now turns inward
There’s a lot of unhappiness out there.
For example, the Wall Street types who financed the GOP’s 2012 campaign, donating hundreds of millions of dollars to the party as well as to the SuperPACs run by Karl Rove and others, are not a happy lot.
They are unhappy because they got little or nothing for their investment; they are unhappy with the GOP’s deep reluctance to come to the aid of Hurricane Sandy victims in the Northeast; and as the Manhattan elite, they are unhappy about financing a party that picks on their gay friends and their Muslim friends and doesn’t seem all that friendly to their black friends either.
Rove and his buddies in the GOP political establishment are also very, very unhappy. They are unhappy because their deep-pocket donors are unhappy. They’re unhappy because the deeply conservative base that they created and nurtured along the way to a permanent Republican majority has now slipped their leash and now acts as if they, not the Roves of the world, ought to run the party and set its goals and pick its candidates.
Such impertinence is not appreciated.
To regain control, Rove and his allies have created a new front group, the Conservative Victory Fund, to siphon still more money from donors. This time, the money will be used to finance a war with the great unwashed within their own party and promote more electable (read: moderate and malleable) candidates. In effect, they seek to put their creature back on its leash, where it can be more useful to them.
“There is a broad concern about having blown a significant number of races because the wrong candidates were selected,” as Steven J. Law, president of Rove’s American Crossroads, told the New York Times.
And of course, those who identify as champions of the GOP grassroots aren’t happy either. They aren’t in the mood to listen to condescending lectures from fancy-dan consultants who spent hundreds of millions of other people’s money and got nothing for it, and now want to blame their failure on conservatives for being too conservative.
Matt Hoskins, executive director of the Senate Conservatives Fund, founded by former Sen. Jim DeMint, put it bluntly:
“The Conservative Defeat Project is yet another example of the Republican establishment’s hostility toward its conservative base. Rather than listening to the grassroots and working to advance their principles, the establishment has chosen to declare war on the party’s most loyal supporters. If they keep this up, the party will remain in the wilderness for decades to come.”
And as our friends over at RedState put it:
“American Crossroads is creating a new Super PAC to crush conservatives, destroy the tea party, and put a bunch of squishes in Republican leadership positions. …I dare say any candidate who gets this group’s support should be targeted for destruction by the conservative movement.”
Live by the sword, die by the sword, I suppose.
– Jay Bookman
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Jefferson
February 5th, 2013
3:33 pm
Paul, PBR, when fresh is a fine brew. Premium beer at a popular price…
Moderate Line
February 5th, 2013
3:35 pm
Brosephus™
February 5th, 2013
2:45 pm
Heyward: I pray for your offspring who might……………………..be agaisnt…………………the State.
Thanks but that’s not needed. My offspring will follow the same line of DNA that has been on American soil since the 1790s. We’re 100% American and support America. We don’t dilly dally in that Libertarian crap that you peddle here as we know that there’s no “State” here as the government and the people are one and the same. You can take that “Seig Heil!” and give yourself a colonscopy with it. I don’t buy that sh*t you try to sell here.
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Moderate Line
@ 12:31
So you really don’t have problem killing innocent children. Make up your mind.
If and when I say such, then address that. Otherwise, don’t put words in my mouth and try to debate what you “think” I said. Otherwise, I’ll treat you as any other far-Rightie here that has no common sense. You’re a pretty straight up person, and I have no problem defending my words, but it will be a cold day in hell before I defend yours
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I was merely making issue with how lightly you dismiss the 16 year olds life just because he is died because who he hung out with.
I should change my name to the far rightie who voted for Obama.
I don’t recall asking you to defend anything.
moonbat betty
February 5th, 2013
3:37 pm
Marty-
“Does knowing a terrorist or even agreeing with a terrorist mean one deserves to die in your opinion?”
Depends on the value of the target and what that person’s connection is to that target.
UNCLE SAMANTHA
February 5th, 2013
3:42 pm
OBAMA AND THE LIBERALS ARE HIPPOCRITS
SHOULD BE ASHAMED OF THEMSELVES
BUT THEY ARE NOT
Obama Administration Interrogating Terror Suspects Locked Up Abroad (Again)
http://www.motherjones.com/mojo/2013/01/remix-rendition-proxy-detention
Keep Up the Good Fight!
February 5th, 2013
3:42 pm
Does knowing a terrorist or even agreeing with a terrorist mean one deserves to die in your opinion
Well that would depend. If its Bill Ayers, death may be one of many desired outcomes.
Marty Huggins'
February 5th, 2013
3:42 pm
moonbat betty
February 5th, 2013
3:37 pm
I guess we disagree on that.
I sure wouldn’t want to ever think I was in danger at a family reunion.
I got some crazy country folk on one branch of our tree. God only knows what they have been into.
They seem like the white supremacist types. Difficult to understand what they are saying. From a special place of Appalachia.
Marty Huggins'
February 5th, 2013
3:45 pm
Keep Up the Good Fight!
February 5th, 2013
3:42 pm
Hadn’t thought of that.
Had the us been in the practice of drones against terrorist at that time in his life He would have been in danger himself.
Kinda ironic,” doncha think, yeah I really do think”
Paul
February 5th, 2013
3:46 pm
Jefferson
And it is also Redneck Convert’s brew of choice and the one he hauls more than any other.
getalife
February 5th, 2013
3:47 pm
Loves me some gop civil war and popcorn.
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
February 5th, 2013
3:50 pm
For example, the Wall Street types who financed the GOP’s 2012 campaign, donating hundreds of millions of dollars to the party as well as to the SuperPACs run by Karl Rove and others, are not a happy lot.
Boo-freakin’-hoo
http://tinyurl.com/4zsrpfj
TBS
February 5th, 2013
3:51 pm
dog
Thulsa and I are cordial at best, going at it at other times.
Your wanting to pair us up because I called out your stupidity is nothing but your problem, not mine nor Thulsa’s.
Again, you took him out of context even though he said he was joking.
If you had replied to him about his joke being distasteful or over the top, I wouldn’t have said anything to you.
Anything you want to say directly or indirectly about me is your choice not matter how wrong it might be.
Rock on…
Lefty Dog
February 5th, 2013
3:51 pm
Don’t get overconfident, my Democratic friends. The GOP governors are gerrymandering like crazy so their states will go GOP in the next Presidential election even if the popular vote isn’t there. We could win like crazy but lose the electoral vote. May be time to kick out the EC and go strictly popular.
moonbat betty
February 5th, 2013
3:54 pm
“I got some crazy country folk on one branch of our tree. God only knows what they have been into.”
Marty,
If your relatives are a direct threat to the security of the United States, it is not now, nor has it ever been safe to attend a “family outing” with them.
Stevie Ray..Clowns to the left and Jokers to the right..here I am...
February 5th, 2013
3:54 pm
UNCLE SAMANTHA
February 5th, 2013
3:42 pm
Everyone is a hypocrite at some point or another. It’s either called learning growth or a short memory..
Keep Up the Good Fight!
February 5th, 2013
3:55 pm
Marty, it would be unlikely unless the terrorist was off US soil and not sure it meets the other requirements (war requirements, for example)…. Of course the “pout” about being punished for being a “friend of a terrorist” in the conned world does not go deep in real intellect. It remains on the superficial knee jerk level. The whole reason this comes up however is because of continued “progressive” interest in determining what is going on despite the claims of the idiot right. There should be discussion on what is and is not appropriate which is not what the ODS crowd is pouting about.
Brosephus™
February 5th, 2013
3:56 pm
I was merely making issue with how lightly you dismiss the 16 year olds life just because he is died because who he hung out with.
Context doesn’t translate very well over the internet. I don’t lightly dismiss anybody’s death whether deserved or not. Life is full of choices, and we’re faced with making them day in and day out. If you were privy to the things I see, read, and hear, you would know that age is irrelevant.
http://afghanistan.blogs.cnn.com/2011/05/11/madrassa-teaches-children-to-hate-u-s/
I don’t openly dismiss anything. I have actual experience in dealing with people in this mindset
getalife
February 5th, 2013
3:56 pm
Psst, the libs took on the DLC and won.
Fight back cons.
Stevie Ray..Clowns to the left and Jokers to the right..here I am...
February 5th, 2013
3:56 pm
JAY
Kyle is posing a terrific question on his current post. Why can’t our president cut spending by even 2.3%? Gosh, I could cut that by foregoing starbucks a few days a week..
williebkind
February 5th, 2013
3:58 pm
GG
Please! Look who is the one confused! The huffingtonpost?
“or are the folks writing the headlines you read purposefully misleading you?”
Yep they sure are.
DownInAlbany
February 5th, 2013
4:01 pm
Enter your comments here
Keep Up the Good Fight!
February 5th, 2013
4:02 pm
Stevie, now now sonny boy, if you want to talk lies and garbage, you stay over at Kyles. Don’t track that trash in here.
Latrina
February 5th, 2013
4:02 pm
How fitting that Karl Rove (T*rd Blossom) is the new face of the GOP.
The nation needs two competitive political parties for balance, but the R’s appear to be on the ropes and in disarray now. I figured they were done when GA and SC went for Newt in the primary.
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
February 5th, 2013
4:02 pm
Enter your comments anywhere else but here
Stevie Ray..Clowns to the left and Jokers to the right..here I am...
February 5th, 2013
4:02 pm
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
February 5th, 2013
3:50 pm
Wall Street, not unlike the way Goldman betted against the investments they sold to their own customers, gives pretty equally to both parties…2008 60% to DEMs and 2012 57% to GOP.
They never lose…wonder why BO never pursued all his emotional rhetorical promises to bring down the criminals of wall street and the telecoms…guess why?
http://money.cnn.com/2012/09/05/investing/wall-street-elections/index.html
williebkind
February 5th, 2013
4:03 pm
“May be time to kick out the EC and go strictly popular.”
What did Obama say about that pesky constitution?
Liberals sure are funny! They can read a part of the constitution and come up with abortion and read the 2nd amendment and come up with muskets. I never have a day without humor.
Stevie Ray..Clowns to the left and Jokers to the right..here I am...
February 5th, 2013
4:03 pm
Keep Up the Good Fight!
February 5th, 2013
4:02 pm
I understand your concern about answering questions your leader will not…but where is the lie?
Brosephus™
February 5th, 2013
4:03 pm
Moderate Line: I don’t recall asking you to defend anything.
Pardon me for misreading your 12:31 statement then where you said, “So you really don’t have problem killing innocent children. Make up your mind.”
Seems that telling someone to make up their mind is a form of asking them to defend something they’ve said. Prior to that sentence, you seem to think that I’ve said or insinuated that I have no problem killing innocent children. That would be putting words in my mouth. If I read that wrong, then forgive me of accusing you of something you did not do.
DownInAlbany
February 5th, 2013
4:04 pm
The cbo announced today they expect 8% unemployment, 1.5% GDP and 7 million to lose their insurance under aca. You folks good with that?
williebkind
February 5th, 2013
4:05 pm
“If I read that wrong, then forgive me of accusing you of something you did not do.”
We call that a “drive-by”.
Brosephus™
February 5th, 2013
4:06 pm
Why can’t our president cut spending by even 2.3%?
He can’t do that. Congress has to legislate that, and then he can SIGN that legislation. To pose a question such as that is intellectually dishonest. The question would be better phrased as, “Why can’t our president propose/advocate/campaign for Congress to cut spending by even 2.3%?”
Thomas
February 5th, 2013
4:06 pm
Why can’t our president cut spending by even 2.3%? Gosh, I could cut that by foregoing starbucks a few days a week..
Joker- used to could but now folks now hooked on the $7 Costa Rica Finca Palmilera from Starbucks. I have had to get a second on my home and recently sold my second kid to a third world country.
Moderate Line
February 5th, 2013
4:10 pm
Brosephus™
February 5th, 2013
4:06 pm
Why can’t our president cut spending by even 2.3%?
He can’t do that. Congress has to legislate that, and then he can SIGN that legislation. To pose a question such as that is intellectually dishonest. The question would be better phrased as, “Why can’t our president propose/advocate/campaign for Congress to cut spending by even 2.3%?”
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I don’t realize that in order for a budget to pass it requires congress to pass and the president to sign it. Well guess there is two of us.
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
February 5th, 2013
4:10 pm
To pose a question such as that is intellectually dishonest.
Springeresque.
Corbin Sharpe. I think, therefore I am...I think.
February 5th, 2013
4:12 pm
So people…some light reading …
Human Rights Report: 54 Countries Helped CIA After 9/11
Tuesday, 05 Feb 2013 10:36 AM
By Lisa Barron
new report due out on Tuesday reveals that the CIA had help from some 54 countries in operating the agency’s detention and interrogation program after the Sept. 11, 2001 terrorist attacks, according to the New York Times.
The report by the Open Society Justice Initiative, a human rights advocacy group, details how countries offered different kinds of assistance to the United States in the mission against al-Qaida, including the establishment of secret prisons on their soil and use of their airports for refueling planes while transferring prisoners to other countries.
Amrit Singh, author of the “Globalizing Torture” report, told the Times she found evidence that 25 countries in Europe, 14 in Asia, and 13 in Africa, as well as Canada and Australia, had lent support to the CIA. Among the nations who aided the agency were Thailand, Romania, Poland, Lithuania, Denmark, and Gambia.
“The moral cost of these programs was born not just by the U.S. but by the 54 other countries it recruited to help,” said Singh.
The report names 136 people who had been held or transferred by the CIA and details what, when, and where they were held, the biggest list yet compiled, the Times noted.
Many have condemned the interrogation techniques used by the CIA on terrorist suspects, denouncing them as torture and maintaining that they were both ineffective and illegal.
Former Bush administration officials have insisted that the so-called enhanced interrogation methods, such as water boarding and putting people in boxes, were needed to obtain information that was valuable in the war on terror.
The debate has once again heated up with the release of the film “Zero Dark Thirty,” which chronicles the hunt for Osama bin Laden and portrays torture as one of the methods used on CIA captives to get information.
President Barack Obama has banned torture, but after taking office in 2009 he opted not to set up a national commission investigating the use of such practices.
Singh told the Times that the U.S. had violated domestic and international law and that its efforts to avoid accountability were “beginning to break down.”
The Senate Intelligence Committee recently finished its own study of the CIA detention and investigation program, but it is classified and may never be released.
© 2013 Newsmax. All rights reserved.
Keep Up the Good Fight!
February 5th, 2013
4:12 pm
Well let’s see. Spending has been cut. So Stevie, your premise is wrong. To discuss without the lie would require you first be honest about what has been done.
Ooooohhhh, and don’t forget the pout from your conned friends about the ODS on the economy shrinking.
Moderate Line
February 5th, 2013
4:12 pm
Brosephus™
February 5th, 2013
4:03 pm
Moderate Line: I don’t recall asking you to defend anything.
Pardon me for misreading your 12:31 statement then where you said, “So you really don’t have problem killing innocent children. Make up your mind.”
Seems that telling someone to make up their mind is a form of asking them to defend something they’ve said. Prior to that sentence, you seem to think that I’ve said or insinuated that I have no problem killing innocent children. That would be putting words in my mouth. If I read that wrong, then forgive me of accusing you of something you did not do.
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I avoid putting words in peoples mouths but I can see where you might get defensive with my wording. No problem.
UNCLE SAMANTHA
February 5th, 2013
4:14 pm
HOW TO CUT 2.3%
USE DEFENSE SPENDING CUTS
http://security.blogs.cnn.com/2012/10/09/army-to-congress-thanks-but-no-tanks/
Plus, from its point of view the Army would prefer to decide what it needs and doesn’t need to keep America strong while making tough economic cuts elsewhere.
“When a relatively conservative institution like the U.S. military, which doesn’t like to take risks because risks get people killed, says it has enough tanks, I think generally civilians should be inclined to believe them,” said Travis Sharp a fellow at the defense think tank, New American Security.
But guess which group of civilians isn’t inclined to agree with the generals on this point?
Congress.
To be exact, 173 House members – Democrats and Republicans – sent a letter April 20 to Defense Secretary Leon Panetta, urging him to continue supporting their decision to produce more tanks.
That’s right. Lawmakers who frequently and loudly proclaim that presidents should listen to generals when it comes to battlefield decisions are refusing to take its own advice.
Brosephus™
February 5th, 2013
4:15 pm
Moderate Line
Even passing a budget bill would not cut spending by one cent. In order to cut spending, it has to be done through the appropriations bills, and the president has absolutely no say so in that. The appropriations come from the House of Representatives. Therefore, if any cuts are to be done, they have to come from the GOP House and pass through the Dem Senate.
We’re more likely to see $39 flights to the moon before such a bill can be crafted by this current Congress.
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
February 5th, 2013
4:18 pm
Do THE SONS OF CONFEDERATE VETERANS! ever express their ire?
pogo
February 5th, 2013
4:19 pm
Another fluff piece byJay about the demise of the Republican Party. Well done Comrade Jay, well done.
Moderate Line
February 5th, 2013
4:19 pm
Corbin Sharpe. I think, therefore I am…I think.
February 5th, 2013
4:12 pm
So people…some light reading …
Human Rights Report: 54 Countries Helped CIA After 9/11
Tuesday, 05 Feb 2013 10:36 AM
By Lisa Barron
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Here is what I gather from today’s conversation. We can’t use enhance interrogation techniques but release them back into their home country and we killed them with a drone attack. But guess I am the only one who sees the irony.
cloudodust
February 5th, 2013
4:21 pm
When it comes to the Left analyzing the Right, believe nothing of what you read and nothing of what you hear. Conversely, it’s all accurate…
Keep Up the Good Fight!
February 5th, 2013
4:22 pm
We’re more likely to see $39 flights to the moon before such a bill can be crafted by this current Congress.
Ummm, does that price include one of them porn stars? Can I swap a porn star for, say, a swimsuit model for SI (female please, no speedo models).
josef
February 5th, 2013
4:22 pm
K”CHAK
Was wondering that myself…
HEY, IMAM, these sheets stink…
Brosephus™
February 5th, 2013
4:23 pm
Moderate Line: I avoid putting words in peoples mouths but I can see where you might get defensive with my wording. No problem.
It’s all good. As I said, it’s my bad if I was reading you wrong. Context is difficult to pick up in written conversation where it would be much easier when it’s vocal conversation.
Brosephus™
February 5th, 2013
4:25 pm
Keep Up
Moderate Line
February 5th, 2013
4:25 pm
Brosephus™
February 5th, 2013
4:15 pm
Moderate Line
Even passing a budget bill would not cut spending by one cent. In order to cut spending, it has to be done through the appropriations bills, and the president has absolutely no say so in that. The appropriations come from the House of Representatives. Therefore, if any cuts are to be done, they have to come from the GOP House and pass through the Dem Senate.
We’re more likely to see $39 flights to the moon before such a bill can be crafted by this current Congress.
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You know the process well. Most people do not really understand our government. Not that it is easy to understand.
pogo
February 5th, 2013
4:26 pm
Damnit, we have to get rid of those “assault” weapons that are killing so many Americans! Drones killing Americans, well that is ok. Just as long as the victim is a “terrorist”. What kind of bothers me is who exactly is the person or persons that is making the judgement of what constitutes a “terrorist”? Of course ole Jay isn’t worried about that. He is too consumed writing the epitaph for the GOP. Loser.
Thomas
February 5th, 2013
4:26 pm
http://www.advisorone.com/2013/02/05/top-10-most-regressive-tax-states?t=income-planning&utm_source=dailywire20513&utm_medium=enewsletter&utm_campaign=dailywire&page=6
kind of interesting tid bits- 10 most regressive states for taxes- Ga. not #10- yeah
Jefferson
February 5th, 2013
4:27 pm
$1 PBR
http://www.chefhenrys.com/ai1ec_event/mardi-gras/?instance_id=2257
josef
February 5th, 2013
4:29 pm
Speaking of conservatives, the latest polls show that Mississippi is no longer the most conservative state in the union and less than half of it’s polled respondents identified as such…
Madge From Accounting
February 5th, 2013
4:29 pm
If your relatives are a direct threat to the security of the United States, it is not now, nor has it ever been safe to attend a “family outing” with them.
You guys are crazy. I mean historically people like the NeoNazies, KKK, SLA, Black Panthers, etc.; have been around a long time, (except for the original Panther party which is now defunct); they’ve talked a lot of trash about the US, starting race wars, etc.; yet they are still in existence.
Uncle Same didn’t bomb them; didn’t kill them or their children. They did something worse –
They infiltrated them, got a hold of the books, and then broke them financially. You don’t need bullets or drones to kill someone who doesn’t have the money to buy bullets.
Thulsa Doom
February 5th, 2013
4:30 pm
Dontcha just hate it when garbage like men objectify women? Especially after accusing someone else of the same. Too funny.
keith
February 5th, 2013
4:30 pm
I just found out why obama hates the NRA so much. His hometown of Chicago and Oak Park IL had to write them checks totally 1.4 million dollars. So an a life member of the NRA thank you Chicago and Oak Park for your support. LOL
pogo
February 5th, 2013
4:30 pm
Time to change topics Jay. What comes next? Hmm let’s see; you’ve covered the old death of the GOP so what ’s it going to be? Oh, the agony waiting! Quick Jay, getalife just can ‘t wait.
Thulsa Doom
February 5th, 2013
4:31 pm
josef,
I reckon that means you Mississippians are becoming more enlightened.
keith
February 5th, 2013
4:32 pm
Why would obama want to use drones to murder Americans right here at home? Is he that afraid of us?
Keep Up the Good Fight!
February 5th, 2013
4:32 pm
Ohhh, someone is just begging for attention. Don’t feed the scumtroll
Thulsa Doom
February 5th, 2013
4:33 pm
“They infiltrated them, got a hold of the books, and then broke them financially. You don’t need bullets or drones to kill someone who doesn’t have the money to buy bullets.”
We need to send some CPAs to war against the Taliban.
keith
February 5th, 2013
4:33 pm
Guess that means more people in Mississippi are becoming dependant on the govt for every thing they get.
Redcoat
February 5th, 2013
4:33 pm
Meanwhile……Your government is watching you!…..drones seem to be Obama’s current favorite…..
josef
February 5th, 2013
4:34 pm
THULSA
Nyanh, more endarkened!
keith
February 5th, 2013
4:34 pm
GOP and NRA. Bookman just goes back and forth. Dudes infatuated.
Madge From Accounting
February 5th, 2013
4:34 pm
Damnit, we have to get rid of those “assault” weapons that are killing so many Americans! Drones killing Americans, well that is ok. Just as long as the victim is a “terrorist”.
On the one hand, you’re all FOR waterboarding and torture. (Bush)
On the other hand, you are NOT for drone attacks.(Obama)
wishy washy stuff, i tell ya…..
Thulsa Doom
February 5th, 2013
4:35 pm
I believe the garbage man just had to pay ole Doomy some attention a bit earlier today. Trash boy just couldn’t help himself.
josef
February 5th, 2013
4:36 pm
Keith…
Nyanh… more are coming off the dole, just bringing their experiences and perspectives of having been there with them…
Thulsa Doom
February 5th, 2013
4:36 pm
josef,
Ya stinkin Racist!
keith
February 5th, 2013
4:38 pm
Keith…
Nyanh… more are coming off the dole, just bringing their experiences and perspectives of having been there with them…
LIAR. More people are on the dole thanks to your magic negro.
josef
February 5th, 2013
4:38 pm
THULSA
I’ll have you know, i don’t stink…
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
February 5th, 2013
4:38 pm
…thanks to your magic negro.
There’s your sign.
Keep Up the Good Fight!
February 5th, 2013
4:39 pm
magic negro?
Was that kind of stupidity really necessary?
Thulsa Doom
February 5th, 2013
4:39 pm
josef,
You lotus blossom smelling racist!
josef
February 5th, 2013
4:42 pm
keith
Not in Mississippi…and I agree that was a pretty tacky comment, and for the record, I’m not an Obamanista…
THULSA
Now, that’s more like it!
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
February 5th, 2013
4:43 pm
Someone may have already posted this but …………… trouble in paradise !
Headline: “City in Virginia Becomes First to Pass Anti-Drone Legislation”
http://www.usnews.com/news/articles/2013/02/05/city-in-virginia-becomes-first-to-pass-anti-drone-legislation-
Moderate Line
February 5th, 2013
4:45 pm
Madge From Accounting
February 5th, 2013
4:29 pm
If your relatives are a direct threat to the security of the United States, it is not now, nor has it ever been safe to attend a “family outing” with them.
You guys are crazy. I mean historically people like the NeoNazies, KKK, SLA, Black Panthers, etc.; have been around a long time, (except for the original Panther party which is now defunct); they’ve talked a lot of trash about the US, starting race wars, etc.; yet they are still in existence.
Uncle Same didn’t bomb them; didn’t kill them or their children. They did something worse –
They infiltrated them, got a hold of the books, and then broke them financially. You don’t need bullets or drones to kill someone who doesn’t have the money to buy bullets.
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I agree with your point but you see what I believe it was Missouri did to the KKK. They wiped them out.
Jay
February 5th, 2013
4:45 pm
Fresh sheets
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
February 5th, 2013
4:46 pm
Ooops ! More Trouble in Paradise !
Headline: “Flash Mob Mayhem: Violent Groups Of Teens Leave NYC Businesses In Ruins”
http://newyork.cbslocal.com/2013/02/04/flash-mob-mayhem-violent-groups-of-teens-leave-nyc-neighborhoods-in-disarray/
TRANSLATION: Our culture continues to deteriorate.
Keep Up the Good Fight!
February 5th, 2013
4:46 pm
Oh no…. now only the criminals will have drones!
saywhat?
February 5th, 2013
4:47 pm
I welcome the demise of the Republican party, should it ever come. It has outlived its usefulness and deteriorated to the point of absurdity. I hope to see a split in the Democratic party, with the few remaining sane Republicans joining the considerable number of conservative Dems (the wingnuts here likely consider them “socialists”) as one party, and the more progressive dems adding the more sane real semi-socialists and envrionmentalists to their ranks. It would be a much healthier two party system, one open to rational compromises despite genuine differences.
skipper
February 5th, 2013
4:47 pm
Time for somethin’ else Jay..this’n is stale…………………..and my hero ‘Bro is being decent to moderate.
Jay
February 5th, 2013
5:03 pm
Yes, absolutely it makes sense, Moderate.
A terrorist in our custody, like an enemy soldier in our custody, no longer poses a danger to anybody. They have been rendered harmless under the laws of war.
A terrorist NOT in our custody still poses a great danger, and we have the right of self-defense to end that danger by killing him if necessary.
During WWII, we had captured German soldiers held in rural areas of our own country practically walking around at will, while we were killing their colleagues on an industrial scale. Why? For exactly the reasons outlined above.
skipper
February 5th, 2013
5:06 pm
Drones…..terrorists..folks dying. Thats what they get………quit attacking folks, get real jobs, and quit using islam as an excuse to be a sorry killer.
skipper
February 5th, 2013
5:06 pm
Helluva post just then, Jay!
Jay
February 5th, 2013
5:07 pm
“Keep in mind he was in custody twice after Ft. Hood. Once in the US and once in Yemen.
Do you have a cite for that claim, Moderate? The Fort Hood shooting was 2009; my understanding is al Alwaki went underground in 2006-07.
Jay
February 5th, 2013
5:14 pm
Well, it’s a bit premature to concluded that, isn’t it? I mean, we just don’t know. Right?
No, we know. God was not willing to let him continue, because he is dead. Now, as to the outcome of the larger struggle ….?
Vast Right Wing Conspiracy (aka "Knuckle-Dragger")
February 5th, 2013
7:21 pm
In general, here’s the way we look at it, Jay (short version).
You guys are well on the way to destroying the place (and gleefullly so). The Republican establishment will do the same, just on a longer time frame. We have nothing to lose by endeavoring to get rid of the Republican establishment and trying to right the ship (pardon the pun) before it sinks. This is obviously a calculated risk, but necessary for the continuance of the democratic republic (or what remains of it). We owe it to our children and grandchildren.
independent thinker
February 5th, 2013
8:47 pm
As Rove would preach- all this nonsense can’t be possibly Rove and the big donor’s fault- Blame Romney and Ryan for the GOP’s failures. Can’t trust those g-d da-n Mormons just like Rove predicted.