GOP’s ire, once directed at Obama, now turns inward

There’s a lot of unhappiness out there.

For example, the Wall Street types who financed the GOP’s 2012 campaign, donating hundreds of millions of dollars to the party as well as to the SuperPACs run by Karl Rove and others, are not a happy lot.

They are unhappy because they got little or nothing for their investment; they are unhappy with the GOP’s deep reluctance to come to the aid of Hurricane Sandy victims in the Northeast; and as the Manhattan elite, they are unhappy about financing a party that picks on their gay friends and their Muslim friends and doesn’t seem all that friendly to their black friends either.

Rove and his buddies in the GOP political establishment are also very, very unhappy. They are unhappy because their deep-pocket donors are unhappy. They’re unhappy because the deeply conservative base that they created and nurtured along the way to a permanent Republican majority has now slipped their leash and now acts as if they, not the Roves of the world, ought to run the party and set its goals and pick its candidates.

Such impertinence is not appreciated.

To regain control, Rove and his allies have created a new front group, the Conservative Victory Fund, to siphon still more money from donors. This time, the money will be used to finance a war with the great unwashed within their own party and promote more electable (read: moderate and malleable) candidates. In effect, they seek to put their creature back on its leash, where it can be more useful to them.

“There is a broad concern about having blown a significant number of races because the wrong candidates were selected,” as Steven J. Law, president of Rove’s American Crossroads, told the New York Times.

And of course, those who identify as champions of the GOP grassroots aren’t happy either. They aren’t in the mood to listen to condescending lectures from fancy-dan consultants who spent hundreds of millions of other people’s money and got nothing for it, and now want to blame their failure on conservatives for being too conservative.

Matt Hoskins, executive director of the Senate Conservatives Fund, founded by former Sen. Jim DeMint, put it bluntly:

“The Conservative Defeat Project is yet another example of the Republican establishment’s hostility toward its conservative base. Rather than listening to the grassroots and working to advance their principles, the establishment has chosen to declare war on the party’s most loyal supporters. If they keep this up, the party will remain in the wilderness for decades to come.”

And as our friends over at RedState put it:

“American Crossroads is creating a new Super PAC to crush conservatives, destroy the tea party, and put a bunch of squishes in Republican leadership positions. …I dare say any candidate who gets this group’s support should be targeted for destruction by the conservative movement.”

Live by the sword, die by the sword, I suppose.

– Jay Bookman

687 comments Add your comment

Keep Up the Good Fight!

February 5th, 2013
9:13 am

The wheels are coming off…. but not fast enough

Keep Up the Good Fight!

February 5th, 2013
9:16 am

Gerrymandering could be one of the long term problems for the GOP. They created their “base” and now they have to fight it in those districts.

Christian Conservative

February 5th, 2013
9:16 am

Interesting article on the heals of the horrible obama economic news we received last week… Still no word on those horrendous numbers jay? Unemployment rate ticking up and millions more dropping out of the work force to live of tax payer money????

Keep Up the Good Fight!

February 5th, 2013
9:19 am

Hopefully Steve King will win for the republican Iowa senate seat so he can be defeated by Braley.

USinUK - former Girl Scout

February 5th, 2013
9:20 am

“To regain control, Rove and his allies have created a new front group, the Conservative Victory Fund, to siphon still more money from donors. This time, the money will be used to finance a war with the great unwashed within their own party and promote more electable (read: moderate and malleable) candidates. In effect, they seek to put their creature back on its leash, where it can be more useful to them.”

first casualty was St. Sarah of the Tundra … poor Wasilla hillbilly lost her gig at FOX – do you think she’s going through center-of-the-universe withdrawal?

Paul

February 5th, 2013
9:21 am

Most family brawls conducted in public are pretty uncomfortable to be around. With this one, though, I predict there’ll be lots of popcorn consumed.

““There is a broad concern about having blown a significant number of races because the wrong candidates were selected,”

Gotta admire the plain-spoken honesty.

” Rather than listening to the grassroots and working to advance their principles, the establishment has chosen to declare war on the party’s most loyal supporters.”

If the loyal supporters keep insisting on leading everyone towards another episode of mass suicide, well, yeah.

Just hope they spend about half their budget here in Texas. Cruz go elected to the Senate and Cornyn’s following him on every nutty ‘no’ vote he casts.

Oh, and Redstate’s statement was misquoted, sorry to say. Should be:

““American Crossroads is creating a new Super PAC to crush extremist conservative whackos whose mission is to deny the White House to conservatives during their lifetimes.”

” and put a bunch of squishes in Republican leadership positions”

Oooohhh, new word for Towncrier and Christian Conservative!

Granny Godzilla

February 5th, 2013
9:23 am

and FYI “Foxbotz”….after taking Mr. Rove off the air after his strange peformance on election night
they just extended his contract through 2016.

SO..Fox has the URGE to SURGE the PURGE of Tea Party candidates.

Where they gonna’ get their news now?

Ronald Reagan Parkway

February 5th, 2013
9:23 am

Without minority support/participation, the GOP is headed down the road to no where.

DannyX

February 5th, 2013
9:24 am

“Interesting article on the heals of the horrible obama economic news we received last week”

Christian Conservative, I have asked you to analyze the “horrible obama economic news” 5 different times but you keep ignoring me. Why?

pick your poison.......

February 5th, 2013
9:24 am

Hillary 2016 or Biden 2016

Corbin Sharpe. I think, therefore I am...I think.

February 5th, 2013
9:25 am

USinUK,

“first casualty was St. Sarah of the Tundra …”

I hear that she is still sitting on a rather large amount of PAC money. She could do some damage to Rove and his boys, if he is not careful. This is pay-for- view stuff. Gotta love it.

комисса́р (Occupation)

February 5th, 2013
9:26 am

“as the Manhattan elite, they are unhappy about financing a party that picks on their gay friends and their Muslim friends and doesn’t seem all that friendly to their black friends either.”

The capitalist power elite has needed the rubes to help them maintain their political front and coalition. But it’s always been a delicate balance. It was in the 50s with a Jim Crow south, and it is again today.

Uncomfortable yet inevitable bedfellows indeed.

Paul

February 5th, 2013
9:26 am

“but you keep ignoring me. Why?”

Because that’s where the bumper sticker ended, DannyX -

Granny Godzilla

February 5th, 2013
9:26 am

Actually I claim “squishes”…
have I not been pointing out for the last year that the GOP has gone squishy?

Aquagirl

February 5th, 2013
9:27 am

Republicans put the “kooks welcome!” sign out and don’t understand why the kooks won’t just leave. This is gonna get ugly.

Paul

February 5th, 2013
9:27 am

Granny

Been listening to Rhymin’ Simon this morning?

Corbin Sharpe. I think, therefore I am...I think.

February 5th, 2013
9:27 am

Pick…

I also hear that Janet Napolitano said she would run if Hillary wouldn’t…

Thomas Heyward Jr

February 5th, 2013
9:28 am

Decent Americans grow tired of Empire building,cronyism, and the violent police state while……….grandma is eating catfood.
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Obama-Bots should take note.
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pick your poison.......

February 5th, 2013
9:29 am

Corbin Sharpe, that could be another good choice!

Redneck Convert (R--and proud of it)

February 5th, 2013
9:29 am

Well, they need to pick canadates that know how to keep their mouth shut, dang it. It’s OK to beleive what they beleive. It’s not OK to say it out loud to women, Those People, the Mexicans, etc. Wait till you get in office to spout off about how women that don’t want to get raped can’t get in a family way from it, etc.

That’s my opinion and it’s very true. Mum’s the word. Romney finally got the hang of it. At the end he sounded like the biggest librul in the world. But by that time he’d said so many things nobody beleived him

Have a good Tuesday everybody.

Paul

February 5th, 2013
9:30 am

Granny Godzilla

“Actually I claim “squishes”…”

You infiltrated the Tea Party PR machine as a saboteur?

Good job!

Seriously, though… does anyone think, at least in the short term, the realistic Republicans can marginalize the demon child of their own creation?

Moderate Line

February 5th, 2013
9:30 am

Liberalism – Torture bad. Killing American citizens without due process good with drones ok.

http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/281069-doj-white-paper-on-killer-drones-and-us-citizens-abroad

pick your poison.......

February 5th, 2013
9:31 am

Kentucky for Ashley Judd in 2014

Corbin Sharpe. I think, therefore I am...I think.

February 5th, 2013
9:31 am

Thomas Heyward Jr

February 5th, 2013
9:28 am

:lol: :lol: :lol:

Joe Hussein Mama

February 5th, 2013
9:32 am

Conservative Person: ” If they keep this up, the party will remain in the wilderness for decades to come.”

I’m not seeing a problem there.

Joe Hussein Mama

February 5th, 2013
9:34 am

C. Sharpe — “This is pay-for- view stuff. Gotta love it.”

Indeed. This is a fine example of “let’s you and him fight.” :D

USinUK - former Girl Scout

February 5th, 2013
9:34 am

“She could do some damage to Rove and his boys, if he is not careful. ”

Sarah hurt Rove???

as the movie line goes, he’s had craps bigger than her

stands for decibels

February 5th, 2013
9:34 am

“die by the sword…”

Given that Ron Paul SEAL tweet, now you’re just being mean, Jay.

Joe Hussein Mama

February 5th, 2013
9:36 am

Paul — “Seriously, though… does anyone think, at least in the short term, the realistic Republicans can marginalize the demon child of their own creation?”

Hell to the naw.

They raised it, let them pay for all the psychoanalysis and bail that demonspawn’s going to need.

Aquagirl

February 5th, 2013
9:36 am

Killing American citizens without due process good with drones ok.

The faux outrage is bringing tears to my eyes. Really.

Mr. Snarky

February 5th, 2013
9:36 am

This should be fun to watch…conservatives eating their young.

Paul

February 5th, 2013
9:37 am

Moderate Line

The link you cited states “In the document, the Justice Department concludes that a lethal strike against a senior operational leader of al Qaeda — or an affiliated terrorist group — can occur if a three-part test is met: that a high-level American intelligence official has determined the individual poses an imminent threat, that capture is infeasible, and that the strike is conducted according to the laws of war governing use of force” (and that only scratches the surface on the process and how it was developed” yet you assert it ‘lacks due process.”

Why?

I’ve got to go out for a bit but look forward to the information.

Corbin Sharpe. I think, therefore I am...I think.

February 5th, 2013
9:37 am

Moderate Line

February 5th, 2013
9:30 am

I, for one, think that drones are the best thing going. They put the terror into the terrorists.

They are always looking up into the sky and soiling their pants. Good! And before you start on innocent deaths, let me ask you how many innocent lives are lost to suicide bombers? Car bombs? IED’s? If you are going to have a war on terror, then you have to do the w. a. r. period. The drone program saves American lives and that is quite fine with me.

illyushin

February 5th, 2013
9:37 am

Live by being owned by Big Business, die by Big Business tossing you under the bus.

It could not happen to a more deserving Party.

Dirty Dawg

February 5th, 2013
9:39 am

Don’t worry Jay, they’ll always have room for Obama-bashing…it’s the only thing that makes em feel good.

stands for decibels

February 5th, 2013
9:39 am

From our Bros, downstairs, regarding Mrs. Bros:

She doesn’t read the blog, and the only time she’s even looked at it was when Jay put up the photo from DC that I took.

She’s definitely a keeper, then.

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(oh, and if you want a laugh, Kayaker actually posted the ancient fake-Hitler gun control quote down there. I don’t think anyone should tell him, though.)

illyushin

February 5th, 2013
9:39 am

UsinUk

St. Sarah of the Tundra is standing on her back porch contemplating her view of Russia.

With luck, maybe she will just move there and snuggle up to Putin.

Joe Hussein Mama

February 5th, 2013
9:39 am

Moderate Line — “Liberalism – Torture bad. Killing American citizens without due process good with drones ok.”

Moderate Line — Making Crap Up Since 9:30 AM

Paul

February 5th, 2013
9:40 am

Moderate Line

One other thought before I go – the guy in the bunker, whom the authorities determined posed an imminent threat to the little boy, whose capture they felt was infeasible, so the authorities struck according to current legal practices: was that guy an American citizen killed without due process?

out -

Keep Up the Good Fight!

February 5th, 2013
9:40 am

The “violent police state” claims are posted by the same clownish types who also want to put officers in every school, every church, every public place…. Any wonder why Rove wants to purge the nuts out

Sometimes you vote like a nut, sometimes you don’t…no wait, nuts always vote nuts.

kayaker 71

February 5th, 2013
9:40 am

So, we are toast, according to Bookman. Bozo only won by about 3 million votes, hardly a mandate. Reagan had a mandate at 49/1. The losing party always has a period of turmoil after a national election. The Republicans just didn’t give enough perks away. 75% of latinos and 94% of blacks voted for this clown and for what?….. just what that stalwart citizens said in Cleveland…… her “Obama phone”. What’s in it for me. They could care less about Bozo and Bozoette. Hell, Yosimite Sam could run and if the perks are right, he would be a shoo in.

Jay

February 5th, 2013
9:40 am

There was no horrible economic news last week, CC.

The Dow hit 14,000 for the first time since 2007. Contrary to your claim, the civilian labor-force participation rate was unchanged. Some 157,000 jobs were created in January, and according to the Bureau of Labor Statistics, “The change in total nonfarm payroll employment for November was revised from +161,000 to +247,000, and the change for December was revised from +155,000 to +196,000.” That’s an additional 127,000 jobs created in those two months.

Those revisions were encouraging, because it means that job creation is occurring faster than official numbers can track, a sign of considerable job growth. It means that the initial January numbers will probably turn out to be too low as well.

In fact, for all of 2012, monthly average job creation numbers were updated from 142,000 a month to 181,000 a month. That’s right: During all those months that conservative conspiracy theorists were insisting that the Obama administration was cooking the job numbers to help his re-election effort, the BLS was actually UNDERestimating job growth by more than 25 percent a month. It undercounted new job creation by a total of 647,000.

Horrible news? I guess that would depend on your perspective.

And yes, I am well aware of the 4th quarter GDP numbers. I am also fully aware, as you should be, that most economists dismiss that as a one-time thing, generated by a confluence of one-time events. Things aren’t as good as they should be or as we want them to be, but they are slowly getting better and better as we dig out of this massive hole.

Whatever

February 5th, 2013
9:43 am

This would be a much smaller issue for all of us if the there was less central (federal) control to fight over and more decisions where made on a state level. People would naturally drift to the states that were leaning the way they liked.

It wouldn’t solve all of our problems but it would help. I don’t want Ga to be like Ca. or Illinois. I’m sure they don’t want to be like Ga. but right now we are trying to make every place be a cookie cutter.

stands for decibels

February 5th, 2013
9:45 am

more off-topicalogical stuff…

I also hear that Janet Napolitano said she would run if Hillary wouldn’t…

Janet probably ought to toss her hat in the ring regardless of Hillary’s plans.

Seriously, wouldn’t it be nice if there were a major Democratic primary contest between two well-qualified candidates, one a former Senator, the other a former Governor, and their gender was of no interest to the handicappers whatsoever?

I’d posit that, perhaps, our nation had finally growed up, if that were to happen.

Moderate Line

February 5th, 2013
9:45 am

For example, the Wall Street types who financed the GOP’s 2012 campaign, donating hundreds of millions of dollars to the party as well as to the SuperPACs run by Karl Rove and others, are not a happy lot.
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The statement is false. Securities and Investment ranks is the second largest contributor to Republicans. Also note that it was 10th for Dems. The total for Rep was $24 million and for Dems was 6 million.
http://www.opensecrets.org/pres12/indus_topall.php?cycle=2012

Granny Godzilla

February 5th, 2013
9:46 am

Paul

Spent some time with Toddler G and the works of Ted Giesel.

I do not like green eggs or Karl Rove.

In a box or on the Fox.

ken

February 5th, 2013
9:47 am

My paycheck was a tank and a half short. And more taxes to come. I see that 60 grand a year is the new rich.

stands for decibels

February 5th, 2013
9:47 am

The faux outrage is bringing tears to my eyes. Really.

“Why isn’t Obama behaving in the manner that I imagine that liberals imagine they expected him to behave?”

that’s what the “outrage” in this case appears to be about.

(I expected Obama to behave like the centrist Democrat he ran as, and appears to be.)

kayaker 71

February 5th, 2013
9:47 am

Bookman, 9:40,

How many dropped out of the work force while all those jobs were “created”? Only counting those who have not quit looking or those on chronic unemployment is skewing the numbers. And a point one percent growth? That’s because the planets didn’t line up or some other silly excuse. Mexico has about 4% at present and China has about 10. Now that’s growth. We were supposed to be at about 5% after two years of Bozo’s first term. Comeer, Ethyl. Gimmie that lipstick. Now if I could just get this pig to hold still.

Moderate Line

February 5th, 2013
9:47 am

Jay

February 5th, 2013
9:40 am

There was no horrible economic news last week, CC.
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The preliminary numbers say the economy contracted. Is that good news?

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424127887324156204578273611039517142.html

комисса́р (Occupation)

February 5th, 2013
9:49 am

“Things aren’t as good as they should be or as we want them to be, but they are slowly getting better and better as we dig out of this massive hole”

I wouldn’t be so sure. World capitalism is nowhere near ‘digging out’ of its greatest crisis since the 1930s. Meanwhile, fascism is on the march in southern Europe.

And as Europe goes, so goes….

Granny Godzilla

February 5th, 2013
9:50 am

Moderate Line

Is the other news in the report “good news”?

stands for decibels

February 5th, 2013
9:51 am

We were supposed to be at about 5% after two years of Bozo’s first term.

Kayaker, did you get that factoid from the same place you got your fake Hitler quote?

Joe Hussein Mama

February 5th, 2013
9:52 am

Occupation, I do not think that Russian word means what you think it means. :)

It reads “Commissar,” does it not?

Dokumenti, Tovarisch! :D

комисса́р (Occupation)

February 5th, 2013
9:55 am

“I dare say any candidate who gets this group’s support should be targeted for destruction by the conservative movement.”

The day you hear liberals or Democrats use such a phrase will be the day you’ll know something truly fundamental has changed in our political system. You won’t ever hear it.

Aquagirl

February 5th, 2013
9:55 am

I expected Obama to behave like the centrist Democrat he ran as, and appears to be.

Me too, but I am absolutely delighted at his unexpected penchant for killing terrorists.

Finn McCool (The System isn't Broken; It's Fixed)

February 5th, 2013
9:56 am

permanent Republican majority

mwuahahahahahahahhahhahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

aha

aha
aha

mwuahahahahahahahahahahahahahah

Thomas Heyward Jr

February 5th, 2013
9:56 am

Keep Up the Good Fight!

February 5th, 2013
9:40 am

The “violent police state” claims are posted by the same clownish types who also want to put officers in every school, every church, every public place…. Any wonder why Rove wants to purge the nuts out

Sometimes you vote like a nut, sometimes you don’t…no wait, nuts always vote nuts.
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You lie.

straitroad

February 5th, 2013
9:56 am

It seems at some point, you’ll have get your head out of the sand and come up for air. The economy is feeling the effects of obama’s policies and contracting, the administration is telling us that it is legal to execute Americans without due process, gas prices are spiking with no end in sight and you ignore all of this. Jay, you should get out of your comfort zone from time to time and deal with reality.

Finn McCool (The System isn't Broken; It's Fixed)

February 5th, 2013
9:58 am

Remember, Cons

We told you 10 years ago it would take us a while to dig out of the hole you and your politicians put us in. And that was BEFORE the 2007 financial meltdown.

stands for decibels

February 5th, 2013
9:58 am

The day you hear liberals or Democrats use such a phrase will be the day you’ll know something truly fundamental has changed in our political system. You won’t ever hear it.

I won’t go quite THAT far. I still love to refer to this now-defunct outfit as the “Democratic Losership Council”, and I’d have been fine with targeting their destruction any number of times, in the past.

Moderate Line

February 5th, 2013
9:58 am

Granny Godzilla

February 5th, 2013
9:50 am

Moderate Line

Is the other news in the report “good news”?
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Yes. What is your point? The question was what “horrible news.” I think a contraction is horrible news.

Bob Loblaw

February 5th, 2013
9:59 am

Redstate wants to “target for destruction”? I thought Erick was putting on a smiley face these days? WAIT! That’s right. He went to work for Fox. My bad.

Thomas Heyward Jr

February 5th, 2013
10:00 am

straitroad

February 5th, 2013
9:56 am

It seems at some point, you’ll have get your head out of the sand and come up for air. The economy is feeling the effects of obama’s policies and contracting, the administration is telling us that it is legal to execute Americans without due process, gas prices are spiking with no end in sight and you ignore all of this. Jay, you should get out of your comfort zone from time to time and deal with reality.
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He will.

0311/8541/5811/1811/1801

February 5th, 2013
10:00 am

Geez !

Nothing about MARTA, Georgia transportation or charter schools this morning ???

TBS

February 5th, 2013
10:01 am

Thomas

Make sure you Alex Jones groupies keep him protected from Bloomberg’s hitmen

Finn McCool (The System isn't Broken; It's Fixed)

February 5th, 2013
10:01 am

It’s a good time to grab a bowl of popcorn and watch the Conservative implosion

Grasshopper

February 5th, 2013
10:02 am

Do those that are overjoyed at the prospect of a GOP implosion feel that a one-party system is good for the country?

If not, what form – ideals and guiding principles – do you think a second party replacement should take?

DannyX

February 5th, 2013
10:03 am

Yep, the economy is tanking. That’s why the Dow hit 14,000 last week after all the “bad news”.

Yet its the Republican party that is in total chaos right now! You poor things, I almost feel sorry for you. Republicans are the chicken with its head cut off party. Get a hold of yourselves man!

BENGHAZI!

TBone

February 5th, 2013
10:04 am

As opposed to the “progressives” who are always happy, happy, joy, joy. In our skeet shooter in chief’s first two years ‘progressives’ held majorities in both houses and the White House but didn’t get much done. Liberals are the most miserable lot known to man, get over yourself.

Joe Hussein Mama

February 5th, 2013
10:04 am

F. McCool — “It’s a good time to grab a bowl of popcorn and watch the Conservative implosion”

Indeed! They’re going back to their old criticisms, which didn’t work the first time. It’s a sure sign that they’re fresh out of thinky juice and that they need Rush or FNC to blast-fax ‘em some new talking points. :D

RB from Gwinnett

February 5th, 2013
10:04 am

Can somebody please tell us all how this gun sale background check business would have prevented any of the tragedies that prompted the discussion in the first place?

And if it won’t prevent these tragedies, why are we having the conversation?

Granny Godzilla

February 5th, 2013
10:04 am

Moderate line

You do? Well I’ll be!

Who’d have thought you’d listen to the right wing interpretation of the report and ignore what
most sensible would be able to see for themselves?

oh and actually your questions was:

“The preliminary numbers say the economy contracted. Is that good news?”

DannyX

February 5th, 2013
10:04 am

“Do those that are overjoyed at the prospect of a GOP implosion feel that a one-party system is good for the country?”

Grasshopper, did you vote for Roy Barnes?

curious

February 5th, 2013
10:05 am

“horrible Obama economic news” is the economy is growing. Some can acknowledge the fact.

Even the “contraction” doesn’t seem that bad. From the same WSJ article cited above.

“Research firm Capital Economics called the report “the best-looking contraction in U.S. GDP you’ll ever see.” Forecasters didn’t see the decline as a harbinger of recession”

Foghorn Leghorn

February 5th, 2013
10:05 am

Republicans are the chicken with its head cut off party.

I say, I say, only TAX CUTS can save us now, son!

Granny Godzilla

February 5th, 2013
10:06 am

TBONE

“In our skeet shooter in chief’s first two years ‘progressives’ held majorities in both houses and the White House but didn’t get much done”

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TBONE….Ah nope.

for the elebenty millionth time.

Doggone/GA

February 5th, 2013
10:06 am

“Do those that are overjoyed at the prospect of a GOP implosion feel that a one-party system is good for the country?”

A GOP “implosion” does not mean the party will go away. Maybe, just maybe, it will change names…but the same people will still be out there…as an opposition party, if nothing else. So sorry, your dream of a “one-party system” is not going to come true.

Moderate Line

February 5th, 2013
10:09 am

Jay

February 5th, 2013
9:40 am

And yes, I am well aware of the 4th quarter GDP numbers. I am also fully aware, as you should be, that most economists dismiss that as a one-time thing, generated by a confluence of one-time events. Things aren’t as good as they should be or as we want them to be, but they are slowly getting better and better as we dig out of this massive hole.
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From the Economist:
Yet it would be unwise to dismiss the fourth-quarter weakness as pure anomaly. Economists did the same when Britain’s economy posted a surprise contraction at the end of 2010. Yet within a year Britain was back in recession and with another surprisingly large contraction last quarter, may be once again. While America is almost certainly not slipping back into recession, the ease with which special factors tipped it into negative territory is a reminder of the recovery’s underlying fragility.

Jay

February 5th, 2013
10:09 am

“The statement is false. Securities and Investment ranks is the second largest contributor to Republicans. Also note that it was 10th for Dems. The total for Rep was $24 million and for Dems was 6 million.”

No, Moderate. The statement is true.

First of all, the numbers that you cite include only direct donations to presidential campaigns. They do not include donations to the parties themselves, to Senate campaigns, to House campaigns and most importantly, secret donations to SuperPACS, such as Rove’s, that spent hundreds of millions.

You also point out that “securities and investment” ranked as only the second most generous category to Mitt Romney’s campaign, implying I was wrong because it wasn’t listed first. It wasn’t first only because the largest category was “retired.”

Among interest groups, S&I was easily the most generous to Romney in raw numbers. In relative numbers, that industry gave four times as much to Romney as to Obama.

“Miscellaneous Finance” also gave almost four to one to Romney. Oil and gas gave nine times as much to Romney; hedge funds and private equity gave to Romney by five to one.

Again, my statement is accurate.

Grasshopper

February 5th, 2013
10:13 am

“Grasshopper, did you vote for Roy Barnes?”

No. I would have liked the opportunity to vote for Karen Handel.

“A GOP “implosion” does not mean the party will go away. Maybe, just maybe, it will change names…but the same people will still be out there…as an opposition party, if nothing else. So sorry, your dream of a “one-party system” is not going to come true.”

It’s not a ‘dream’ it’s a nightmare. But thanks for the non-answer anyhow.

BOHICA

February 5th, 2013
10:14 am

Jay,
These truly must seem to you to be the “best of times”. Our economy is just “rolling along” and the GOP are starting to “eat their own’.

On another topic : Are you going to start a blog post regarding the recent revelations about the “standards” our government has initiated regarding the assasination of American citizens linked to Al Qaida?

….waiting….3, 2 ,1

Doggone/GA

February 5th, 2013
10:14 am

“It’s not a ‘dream’ it’s a nightmare”

Ok, then you can rest easy…it’s not going to happen in any case.

Doggone/GA

February 5th, 2013
10:15 am

“On another topic : Are you going to start a blog post regarding the recent revelations about the “standards” our government has initiated regarding the assasination of American citizens linked to Al Qaida”

blogspot.com is ready when you are

USinUK - former Girl Scout

February 5th, 2013
10:15 am

“Do those that are overjoyed at the prospect of a GOP implosion feel that a one-party system is good for the country? ”

not for a 1-party system … but also not for the crazy people who have been running the GOP

Thomas Heyward Jr

February 5th, 2013
10:17 am

Grasshopper

February 5th, 2013
10:02 am

Do those that are overjoyed at the prospect of a GOP implosion feel that a one-party system is good for the country?

If not, what form – ideals and guiding principles – do you think a second party replacement should take?
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Good salient question Grasshopper.
You have grown such as a willow shading the head of a wise person.
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The answer you shall find in your heart.
The compartment where decency dwells.
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The answer is simple but not easy.
There is NOT guiding principles or ideaologies …or nay………..second parties.
There is only ONE guiding principle and/or idealogy…………………….for decency to prevail.
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The NAP.
Non-Agression Pact.
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It’s what civil;izations and decency are built upon and it will prevail.
Take heart…..Soon…………………the violence of progressionism and centralized statism will be behind us.
The R&D Washington party will be but a bitter memory……….a dryed husk……a spent Acorn laying upon the rotted leaves.
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So it is said.

DannyX

February 5th, 2013
10:17 am

“No. I would have liked the opportunity to vote for Karen Handel.”

Grasshopper, its okay for a state to have one party control? You feel a one party state is good for the state?

East Cobb RINO, Inc (LLC)

February 5th, 2013
10:17 am

“If they keep this up, the party will remain in the wilderness for decades to come.”

Please do keep it up for a few more decades.

maximum

February 5th, 2013
10:18 am

USinUK: I always enjoy your comments on this blog. I’ll be in London on business next week, will raise a glass of fortified wine in your honor at Gordon’s Wine Bar …

Granny Godzilla

February 5th, 2013
10:18 am

Bend Over Here It Comes Again (BOHICA)

“These truly must seem to you to be the “best of times”. Our economy is just “rolling along” and the GOP are starting to “eat their own’. ”

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pretty goofy stuff. no wonder you have to bend over so frequently.

Grasshopper

February 5th, 2013
10:19 am

“Ok, then you can rest easy…it’s not going to happen in any case.”

I’m just asking because it seems that is what so many would truly like to see happen.; one party to fail and crumble into the ‘dustbin of history’ and the other to take complete control. I like the checks and balances when both parties have some weight. The 90’s were a good example – not perfect.

Keep Up the Good Fight!

February 5th, 2013
10:19 am

We currently have a 2 party system in name only. We have the Democratic Party and then we have a party of extremists who hold extreme beliefs and are very marginal in the overall community of American “values”. They are outliers in the same fashion as a number of other extreme or small parties that also exist. They happen to be larger than many of those but less sane that many of those also.

Jefferson

February 5th, 2013
10:20 am

Reasonable people can come to reasonable conclusions under reasonable conditions, unless you are a republican.

The light is coming on.

Doggone/GA

February 5th, 2013
10:20 am

“I’m just asking because it seems that is what so many would truly like to see happen”

I suggest you check into Karl Rove’s veiws on that subject

USinUK - former Girl Scout

February 5th, 2013
10:22 am

” I always enjoy your comments on this blog. I’ll be in London on business next week, will raise a glass of fortified wine in your honor at Gordon’s Wine Bar …”

hey!! safe journey!!! and bundle up – we’re having a bit of a cold snap right now! Where will you be? need any recommendations?

appleseed

February 5th, 2013
10:23 am

Republicans wandering in the wilderness looking for manna from above.Bible toting Christian Conservatives hollering give me manna,or we will worship golden boy.

Matti

February 5th, 2013
10:24 am

The GOP ire in question is about a deficient ROI. Those who invested heavily did not get what they paid for, and the lashing out for that is not likely to end soon. What I’d like to see more of, however, is the deep and deserved self-loathing on the part of average, regular Americans who swallowed the load of bull these investors were pushing, and voted repeatedly against their own best interests and the well-being of their communities and neighbors — in the Christian sense of that word. You know, the ones who believe “scroo the poor” Mon-Sat, and then sing in the pews on Sunday, in His Holy Name, Amen. DEEP self-loathing. Flagellation, even. What do y’all say?

Jefferson

February 5th, 2013
10:24 am

Think of a background check like a seatbelt, just something to do.

Jay

February 5th, 2013
10:27 am

“the administration is telling us that it is legal to execute Americans without due process….”

That complaint epitomizes just how vapid the GOP has become in its opposition to all things Obama. We can’t stop a terrorist out in the field actively trying to do imminent harm to our country and its citizens just because he or she happens to somehow have American citizenship? Seriously? That’s your complaint? You want Anwar al-Awlaki, the guy who sent the Christmas airline bomber to this country, who pushed Major Hasan to kill fellow soldiers at Fort Hood, who became a regional commander for Al Qaida in Yemen, who encouraged others, including the Times Square bomber — you insist that he get “due process” before he is stopped?

The argument is ludicrous, and it’s even more ludicrous coming from conservatives who in other contexts recognize no legal bounds on the executive’s war-making powers, right down to the right to perform torture even though torture is clearly outlawed by our nation’s own laws. Again, it speaks to the desperation of those on the right to find any grounds whatsoever on which to condemn Obama.

If the president had refused to take out al-Awlaki, citing due process, how do you think straitroad and others would have reacted?

JohnnyReb

February 5th, 2013
10:28 am

While Jay enjoys a little hyperbole in his post, there is arguing in the ranks and Rove’s new effort is throwing gas on the fire.

Foremost is the wimps within in the party collapsing to the rhetoric of the Left as they are played like a drum. The Progressives and big boy media except Fox trot out the “hard right” phrase for any position other than their own. The Republican elites fall for the bait.

Another factor in this is the little man’s money. I know I will not be giving the RNC more money until they tell us what they intend to do that is different from the past. And, changing the message is not the answer. You can’t be against abortion, for example, except when you speak publically about it. You can be smarter in your public statements, but abandoning the basics of the party won’t get you elected. One more vote for raising tax rates and I’m through with the lot.