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From Lori Geary and our friends at WSB, an update on the Chip Rogers scandal:
– Jay Bookman
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Jay
February 4th, 2013
5:21 pm
That’s good to know but we sure can’t tell by what you write!
If that’s true, cite when I did state or imply that Republicans are inherently more corrupt. Again, I disagree strongly with what the GOP has become in recent years, and have not refrained from saying so. But that doesn’t mean I believe that they are any more, or less, susceptible to temptation.
I’ve never posted this before, and I won’t again, but here’s what I wrote in a column to fellow liberals back when Bill Clinton’s affair first hit the news:
“If this were a Republican president, what would we be doing?
We’d all be screaming for his head, that’s what.
We’d be pointing out that here was a man in power who had used a young intern like a soulless receptacle, who had reduced his secretary to little more than a procuress, who had clearly pressured that secretary to lie under oath and who had weakened the presidency to conceal a lie.
To support Clinton despite all that requires us to repudiate what we once claimed to believe about the way men and women should treat each other in the workplace. At the very least we have to pretend that such misbehavior isn’t really a big deal, that it’s all right to use a woman as long as the woman wants to be used.
So let’s talk now about those two lofty questions.
If politics is just a struggle for power between our gang and their gang, and if principle is simply a convenient hammer to pound on the other guy’s head, then we ought to defend Clinton with every means available. After all, he’s our guy and they’re attacking him, in ways that are clearly unfair.
But what if politics is something more than that? What if politics is a means of producing a better society, a more decent society? What if principles are more than just weapons to use against bad guys?
By continuing to support Clinton, we place ourselves in the hypocritical position of demanding a higher standard of behavior from our enemies than we do from our friends. Someday, believe it or not, this is all going to end. And I’m afraid that on that glorious day, we’ll look back and realize that the price we paid to save Clinton just wasn’t worth it.”
Brosephus™
February 4th, 2013
5:23 pm
After our votes are counted, our interests are so subordinated its a joke. All we get is knee jerk, shallow crap sold in soundbites…
And yet the same jackasses get re-elected, so who’s really the fool in this case?
Brosephus™
February 4th, 2013
5:24 pm
That’s good to know but we sure can’t tell by what you write!
Well, it helps when you read what he writes instead of reading what you THINK he’s writing.
td
February 4th, 2013
5:25 pm
Deal appointed a state Senator to a post within the government. So what, this is not something new to politics and if you think it is then you are a FOOL. Obama just appointed his friend Senator John Kerry to be the Secretary of State. Another so what it is what politicians do.
The good part of the appointment is it made a flaming lib resign. Anytime we can get a far leftest out of the bureaucracy it is a good day. I am glad Deal is finally following through with what I suggested to him on the square in Marietta 2 years ago. Clean all libs out of state government.
Brosephus™
February 4th, 2013
5:26 pm
Wow…
Just saw reports that the child in Alabama is safe, and the gunman is dead.
Brosephus™
February 4th, 2013
5:28 pm
“Deal appointed a state Senator to a newly created post within the government.”
No need to not tell the entire truth.
Cheesy Grits is gone but not forgotten
February 4th, 2013
5:29 pm
but as a scientist I am wrong more often than right (especially in the forward looking stuff), I see no shame in it, it’s how we learn
Are you claiming to be a scientist ?
If so please tell me you aren’t teaching in our public schools.
In 1994, according to a leaked memo, the Republican strategist Frank Luntz advised members of the Republican Party, with regard to climate change, that “you need to continue to make the lack of scientific certainty a primary issue” and “challenge the science” by “recruiting experts who are sympathetic to your view.”[9] In 2006, Luntz stated that he still believes “back [in] ‘97, ‘98, the science was uncertain”, but he now agrees with the scientific consensus.[41]
This one is a no brainer. I guess that’s why you dont get it.
td
February 4th, 2013
5:30 pm
Brosephus™
February 4th, 2013
5:28 pm
“Deal appointed a state Senator to a newly created post within the government.”
No need to not tell the entire truth.
And Obama created new Czar positions to appoint friends. Again so what it is what politicians do. If you are going to be outraged by one then you must be outraged by every instance.
Cheesy Grits is gone but not forgotten
February 4th, 2013
5:30 pm
Could Scientist be wrong about Climate Change ?
Yes
Is it likely
No
TaxPayer
February 4th, 2013
5:31 pm
I am glad Deal is finally following through with what I suggested to him on the square in Marietta 2 years ago. Clean all libs out of state government.
That’s clearly why he changed parties.
pogo
February 4th, 2013
5:32 pm
For anyone that has actually ever actually shot a shotgun, the way Obama is holding the firearm in the picture pretty much tells the story. He’s done little if any shooting in his life. They (his handlers) must have rushed him out to Camp David or wherever to get the picture in time for his “campaign” this week against guns and he wasn’t given much time with an experienced shooter to prepare. This man knows that his liberal base so blinded he can basically tell them or show them anything and they will believe it. What he seems not to be able to grasp is that 50%of this country doesn’t believe anything he says or does and for good reason. He is a media created leader built upon images, not substance.
Logical Dude
February 4th, 2013
5:32 pm
td, Anytime we can get a far leftest out of the bureaucracy it is a good day
So, you think Chip Rogers was one of those far leftest who Deal had to take care of and remove from his Majority Leader position?
TaxPayer
February 4th, 2013
5:35 pm
Could Scientist be wrong about Climate Change ?
Sure, if it were a Republican “scientist” (there’s an oxymoron for ya) because he would hold the thermometer upside down in his Georgia backyard in August and proclaim that the temperature is dropping therefore there is no global warming. Then again, they also believe that since we still have winters here on earth, there can be no global warming.
Cheesy Grits is gone but not forgotten
February 4th, 2013
5:36 pm
For anyone that has actually ever actually shot a shotgun, the way Obama is holding the firearm in the picture pretty much tells the story. He’s done little if any shooting in his life
I shoot left handed and I hold a gun exactly that way.
Why does it matter anyway ?
td
February 4th, 2013
5:36 pm
Logical Dude
February 4th, 2013
5:32 pm
td, Anytime we can get a far leftest out of the bureaucracy it is a good day
So, you think Chip Rogers was one of those far leftest who Deal had to take care of and remove from his Majority Leader position?
Chip Rogers was a pain in Deals butt to accomplish his agenda so instead of him being a back beach bomb thrower for the next two years he decided to appoint him to a post in state government to keep his mouth shut. Same way Obama appointed Hillary to be Sec of State. He wanted her out of the country during his first term so that the media would not be asking her opinion about every move he was making.
This is called politics.
Cheesy Grits is gone but not forgotten
February 4th, 2013
5:37 pm
For anyone that has actually ever actually shot a shotgun, the way Obama is holding the firearm in the picture pretty much tells the story. He’s done little if any shooting in his life. They (his handlers) must have rushed him out to Camp David or wherever to get the picture in time for his “campaign” this week against guns and he wasn’t given much time with an experienced shooter to prepare. This man knows that his liberal base so blinded he can basically tell them or show them anything and they will believe it. What he seems not to be able to grasp is that 50%of this country doesn’t believe anything he says or does and for good reason. He is a media created leader built upon images, not substance.
Please put on your tin foil hat at this time.
The black helicopters will be there shortly.
DebbieDoRight - A Do Right Woman
February 4th, 2013
5:38 pm
Are you still standing by your statement that those of you on the Right can look at a pile of poop and say it stinks, even if the poop has a R behind it’s name?
Both of you girls are pretty! Put down your hair brushes and lip gloss and kiss and make up.
josef
February 4th, 2013
5:38 pm
getalife
Thanks…that’s some good news…
THE TOPIC
Whee! This is more fun than the proverbial barrel of monkeys…
Logical Dude
February 4th, 2013
5:39 pm
td. Same way Obama appointed Hillary to be Sec of State.
Well, different because the post Rogers moved to did not exist.
But you’re right on with regards to it being political. Still doesn’t make it the right thing to do. (by either side)
josef
February 4th, 2013
5:39 pm
CHEESY
Yep. I shoot left handed and you’re correct…
Brosephus™
February 4th, 2013
5:41 pm
td
And what has Obama got to do with the State of Georgia, Nathan Deal, and Chip Rogers? Oh, I forgot, your Obama Derangement Syndrome causes you to see everything as some kind of issue with Obama. I bet you panic when you crap brown turds because they remind you of the Brown man in the White House.
If you can ever point to me defending Obama over his picks of friends and/or associates for positions within the government, then feel free to do so. Otherwise, I will continue to point out your hypocrisy at trying to deflect a Georgia GOP Conservative problem by focusing on Obama. It must really suck to be such a devout Christian as yourself and yet be a blind supporter of all this debauchery in Georgia. How does one deal with such a conflict?
Erwin's cat
February 4th, 2013
5:42 pm
Cheesy – Are you claiming to be a scientist ?
If so please tell me you aren’t teaching in our public schools.
This one is a no brainer. I guess that’s why you dont get it.
What a compelling argument….When you resort to insults you lose the debate….no, to teach in GA public schools you need a teaching certificate, but I have had Universities inquire about my availability…am I scientist?…Ha ha much to your dismay I am a member of a US Technical Advisory Group and represents the US technical opinion in International arenas of my specific expertise….not bad for a home schooler huh?
Logical Dude
February 4th, 2013
5:42 pm
Regarding Obama’s photo-op with big gun:
I don’t shoot much, but I thought when you shoot skeet, you yell “pull” and shoot it way up in the air. The way Obama is shooting, it’s more like target practice for ground-based targets.
My .02.
DebbieDoRight - A Do Right Woman
February 4th, 2013
5:42 pm
Mr. Pogo please see this link (I think it answers your questions and saves a lot of time in the bargain):
Brosephus™
February 3rd, 2013
8:31 am
Some people will find the most minute sh*t to bitch and moan about. Why not just announce you hate the dude and everything he touches and be honest with yourself?
http://blogs.ajc.com/jay-bookman-blog/2013/02/01/a-bonnie-prince-to-sing-you-home-through-the-darkness/?cp=3#comment-1221900
Also, FYI here’s another:
Brosephus™
February 3rd, 2013
8:50 am
I guess that, based on this image, JFK wasn’t skeet shooting at the range on Camp David too. Even though there’s video of he and Jackie shooting out there as well.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bwBEsLsEZHw
Look at the angle of the gun as they’re pulling the trigger, they’re just faking it to set Obama up to appear legit. It’s a conspiracy 40 to 50 years in the making just to make Obama appear to like guns.
http://blogs.ajc.com/jay-bookman-blog/2013/02/01/a-bonnie-prince-to-sing-you-home-through-the-darkness/?cp=3#comment-1221901
Thank you.
pogo
February 4th, 2013
5:42 pm
As for the PBS deal, who cares? PBS needs to go away. Nobody watches them anymore. They nor Public Radio are no longer relevant. Todays youth want sex and violence and not much else. They don’t want to be educated, they want to be entertained with bright lights, big boobs and loud noises. Our country has become exactly like the movie Idiocracy.
josef
February 4th, 2013
5:43 pm
BROSEPHUs
“Well, it helps when you read what he writes instead of reading what you THINK he’s writing.”
Well, Big Daddy knew what we’re all going to write before we write it…
DebbieDoRight - A Do Right Woman
February 4th, 2013
5:43 pm
Mr. Pogo please see this link (I think it answers your questions and saves a lot of time in the bargain):
Brosephus™
February 3rd, 2013
8:31 am
Some people will find the most minute sh*t to bitch and moan about. Why not just announce you hate the dude and everything he touches and be honest with yourself?
http://blogs.ajc.com/jay-bookman-blog/2013/02/01/a-bonnie-prince-to-sing-you-home-through-the-darkness/?cp=3#comment-1221900
1 of 2
DebbieDoRight - A Do Right Woman
February 4th, 2013
5:44 pm
2 of 2:
Brosephus™
February 3rd, 2013
8:50 am
I guess that, based on this image, JFK wasn’t skeet shooting at the range on Camp David too. Even though there’s video of he and Jackie shooting out there as well.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bwBEsLsEZHw
Look at the angle of the gun as they’re pulling the trigger, they’re just faking it to set Obama up to appear legit. It’s a conspiracy 40 to 50 years in the making just to make Obama appear to like guns.
http://blogs.ajc.com/jay-bookman-blog/2013/02/01/a-bonnie-prince-to-sing-you-home-through-the-darkness/?cp=3#comment-1221901
Thank you.
Liberal Nightmare
February 4th, 2013
5:45 pm
Haha. So funny you libs think 150K is a “big salary”. Compared to your welfare or disability check maybe? Or is it because you got an English or history degree?
and then there is…
“Could Scientist be wrong about Climate Change ?
Yes
Is it likely
No”
Ah a climate genius. It is very likely they are completely wrong and in the coming months as genuinely peer reviewed (and by that I mean a peer that doesn’t get his funding from the same source as the author) research is released it is going to by fun to sit back and watch the ignorance of the climate hysteria implode.
Janney
February 4th, 2013
5:45 pm
I and several of my friends received that email from Sen. Heath when we signed the online petition. It alamed a few people who thought that Better Georgia was a scam. Glad WSB brought this to light.
josef
February 4th, 2013
5:45 pm
POGO
“Nobody watches them anymore.”
Are you saying that I’m nobody?
GT
February 4th, 2013
5:46 pm
DIA, Jay has said exactly the opposite, he is far more neutral than I am or would be in his position. His job is to report and comment on what he sees, and quiet frankly he may be one of a handful that actually does something call journalism in this state.
When New Orleans lost its seven day a week paper the worry there was who is going to represent the eyes and ears of the people. These voices are getting weaker and the political power structures stronger. Some people like it that way but to me somewhere we are a country flying blind, no longer a democracy and a one party system is a good way there as it is.
You have the right to listen to Jay and still agree with your elected leaders, his truths are pretty transparent and I only hope you find the leaders to be half as much. I didn’t like the way Democrats acted when they were in power and I don’t like the bullies in office now, but that’s just me. Obviously a lot of people over look the petty crime because they think what can follow would be worse, that is your privilege.
josef
February 4th, 2013
5:47 pm
PARIAH
” Or is it because you got an English or history degree?”
My history degrees have been pretty good to me…
td
February 4th, 2013
5:48 pm
Brosephus™
February 4th, 2013
5:41 pm
Deflection? I am not deflecting just pointing out the facts about politics on both sides of the isle. This is the way politics works. It has been since this country and throughout the world was founded, it is now and will be in the future.
I feel a little disappointed because I thought you had enough common sense and knowledge to understand at least these facts.
DebbieDoRight - A Do Right Woman
February 4th, 2013
5:48 pm
As for the PBS deal, who cares? PBS needs to go away. Nobody watches them anymore. They nor Public Radio are no longer relevant. Todays youth want sex and violence and not much else. They don’t want to be educated, they want to be entertained with bright lights, big boobs and loud noises. Our country has become exactly like the movie Idiocracy
Quick question – do you actually READ the stuff you post? Or do you just hit “enter” and say Eff it?
Just curious………..
Erwin's cat
February 4th, 2013
5:51 pm
Quick question – do you actually READ the stuff you post? Or do you just hit “enter” and say Eff it?
I’m goin’ with option 2
stands for decibels
February 4th, 2013
5:52 pm
I happen to disagree very strongly with the modern Republican Party on just about everything that it does. Those are honest policy disagreements as well as disagreement about its basic no-compromise governing style, which I find dangerous. I make no apologies for any of that, and I express those differences in policy terms.
However, I don’t believe I have ever said or implied that Republicans are somehow inherently more corrupt than Democrats, because I do not believe that is true and never have.
yep.
indigo
February 4th, 2013
5:54 pm
Brosephus – 4:07
Didn’t that Georgia politician talking about science being “from the gates of hell” tell you anything?
td
February 4th, 2013
5:56 pm
Brosephus™
February 4th, 2013
5:41 pm
“It must really suck to be such a devout Christian as yourself and yet be a blind supporter of all this debauchery in Georgia. How does one deal with such a conflict?”
Where is the conflict? What “debauchery” are you talking about? People hire their friends in politics, government and the private sector. People want to be surrounded with people they trust. They do not want to be looking over their backs all the time. This is human nature and I do not see any problem with it.
Liberal Nightmare
February 4th, 2013
5:56 pm
By: Howard Galganov, Canadian writer December 14, 2012
I was just about to publish my latest editorial… on Canada’s Supreme Court decision to suspend Freedom of Speech in favor of promoting one language over all others. THEN THE CONNECTICUT SCHOOL SHOOTINGS HAPPENED.
What happened at Sandy Hook School takes precedence over any language issues in Canada and a failed Judicial System in both our countries.
I won’t waste words describing my feelings, because how I feel is indescribable about 27 people murdered, (20 young children and six adults at the school),the murder of the shooter’s mother beforehand, then the cowardly suicide of the shooter at the school as law enforcement closed in.
BUT I CAN TELL YOU WITH CERTAINTY WHY IT HAPPENED:
It didn’t happen because of the so-called gun culture, or because of poor security at the school. It happened because of the modern LEFTIST culture that has been busy removing all semblance of personal responsibility and respect from our lives.
It happened because of the Hollywood and television types who lecture the Conservatives on how people should live, while they make FORTUNES producing absolute FILTH and VIOLENCE in their movies, videos and television programs.
It happened because of reality TV shows that demean humanity, along with shows that make people laugh at the pain and humiliation of others.
The senseless murders happened because multi-millionaire computer game producers create UGLY digital scenarios that poison young minds with abject depravity and gratuitous violence.
It happened because the school system doesn’t teach values, and promotes the idea that ‘anything goes.’ And that all people are equal, regardless of the truth. And that no one ever fails.
It happened because LEFTISTS won’t allow concerned and loving parents to discipline their children, or raise their children in the time-honored way they feel is right.
It happened because far too many Liberals spend their time and effort ridiculing and attacking the people who want to live by the lessons of the Bible and the Torah.
In truth, this and other horrible acts of violence happen because our society– from the entertainment industry to schools to the media and to our governments– have created the social and cultural foundation that is eating away at both Canada and the United States like a cancer.
I know that what I am writing will inflame those on the LEFT, but that’s OK– because if they don’t like it, they can ROT in HELL along with the demons and losers of their own creation. I want my old country’s values back.
Values like standing in school when an adult entered the room. Like being seriously disciplined for bad behavior. Like when we were measured by our successes and failures. When not everyone had to waste years of his or her life going to college to study basket weaving instead of taking a trades course or going to work or the service right after high school. When your Mom was a caring woman and your Dad was a real man, an authority in the home. And when there weren’t vulgar parades extolling the “virtues” of being gay.
If you want to stop the sickness . . . IT’S TIME TO STOP THE LEFT.
In sadness . . . Howard Galganov
Erwin's cat
February 4th, 2013
5:57 pm
stands for dB – did you see my 3:55 for you? (page 2)
stands for decibels
February 4th, 2013
5:59 pm
They nor Public Radio are no longer relevant.
NPR has regular listeners in the tens of millions. Of course they’re relevant.
I think some these stats are what bother pogo:
15% of its listeners view their cell phone as an extension of their personality.
They are 20% more likely than the average adult to buy Godiva chocolate.
Nearly 4 in 5 prefer classic and timeless fashion rather than trendy fashion.
They are 73% more likely than the average adult to view radio as the most trusted medium.
They are 20% more likely than U.S. adults to pay more for eco-friendly products.
They are 27% more likely than the average adult to own a bread-making machine.
A third of of them give to religious organizations.
They’re 108% more likely than the average adult to go to live theater.
They’re 42% more likely to drive a car with manual transmission.
They’re 78% more likely to get a massage.
They are nearly twice as likely as the average American adult to have made a speech.
They were twice as likely as the average American to go hiking.
Brosephus™
February 4th, 2013
5:59 pm
I feel a little disappointed because I thought you had enough common sense and knowledge to understand at least these facts.
I hate to temper your disappointment, because you obviously don’t read what I write. Instead, you appear to have some kind of “liberal” Black man idea of who you think I am. I have stated here many a time that I dislike ALL politicians. I am the son of a politician, so trust me when I say that I know how politics work.
As to deflection, you always deflect when confronted with the shortcomings of the party that you support. Not one single time have you ever owned up to the crap that the GOP does here. Instead, you and others that think like you, refer to something dealing with Obama, Reid, Pelosi, or whatever Democratic politician is the current target of the far right.
I would say that you disappoint me with your lack of common sense thinking, but after reading your posts here, I don’t expect you to ever take your brain out of neutral.
Logical Dude
February 4th, 2013
6:00 pm
Hi Liberal Nightmare,
Can you define what you mean by “LEFTISTS”?
stands for decibels
February 4th, 2013
6:00 pm
yeah, EC, I did. not sure how to take that “self loathing” business. I know you weren’t directing it at me, but I think it’s a little silly to say that of people who are trying to reverse what they see as a potentially disastrous course. I’d say they’re the exact opposite, actually.
Brosephus™
February 4th, 2013
6:01 pm
DDR @ 5:4
I have my own issues with Obama. That said, I don’t have to make sh*t up like some of the brainless posters here. I am more than capable of thinking on my own and finding fault with the man without having to fabricate crap to get angry about.
DebbieDoRight - A Do Right Woman
February 4th, 2013
6:01 pm
Didn’t that Georgia politician talking about science being “from the gates of hell” tell you anything?
Hmmm this reminds me of something:
Republican party- “Rape is a good thing. Without rape, we wouldn’t have all these beautiful children that we don’t want to help feed or clothe. Why should you abort a child just because you were raped? Why not keep that child or give it to a loving couple that enjoys rape just as much as your rapist did? Besides, if it was a legitimate rape, you wouldn’t have gotten preggers in the first place. You want birth control? Just put an aspirin between your knees” (smirk)
American Voting Women said – “What The F………”
Republicans have absolutely NO idea what they’re talking about most of the time. Sometimes they can sound sincere and helpful; but those other times, when they sound ignorant and arrogant, those are the doozies.
Republican Men And Rape– If they are so in awe of rape, they should join their local prisons and/or penitentiaries, slap Big Earl or Big Mac in the face, and see what happens.
If its legimate rape, their bodies will shut that sucker down.
Stevie Ray..Clowns to the left and Jokers to the right..here I am...
February 4th, 2013
6:01 pm
Brosephus™
February 4th, 2013
5:23 pm
It is easy to say it’s all our fault..we can be heard at ballot box but IMO the situation suggests the opposite. The reason why a very large majority of congressional seats are uncontested is due to money. The incumbent knows that shy some debacle, any challengers will have to raise millions to take a run. They need a few big donors to accomplish that…hopefully cyber space can help but big money always wins
I no longer “buy” the argument that its up to us to make changes “from the outside”.
Erwin's cat
February 4th, 2013
6:03 pm
Bro – I hate to temper your disappointment, because you obviously don’t read what I write. Instead, you appear to have some kind of “liberal” Black man idea of who you think I am
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NiCB2isZcRM
don’t tell me I got it wrong, I can’t live with that
Stevie Ray..Clowns to the left and Jokers to the right..here I am...
February 4th, 2013
6:04 pm
DebbieDoRight – A Do Right Woman
February 4th, 2013
6:01 pm
You seem to be tarring the entire GOP flock with the idiotic statements of a couple…perhaps it has since become party dogma but I haven’t seen it yet.
Nobody needs to get into a womans reproduction glands unless invited. But to paint all with the brush of one or two particular dumbasses is not bona fide IMO.
Class of '98
February 4th, 2013
6:05 pm
Jay, didn’t you get the memo? Democrats are supposed to be IN FAVOR of superfluous, unnecessary, low-effort, highly-paid cush government jobs.
Is your inner Tea Partier showing?
stands for decibels
February 4th, 2013
6:06 pm
Can you define what you mean by “LEFTISTS”?
ooh, ooh, I know.
Those are people who point and laugh at “Liberal Nightmare” because the other day, while lecturing us about GA’s sleazy private school funding scam, he let it slip that his mommy and daddy are footing the bill for his kids’ private education.
and by “people” I mean “me” of course.
/have fun, gotta run…
DebbieDoRight - A Do Right Woman
February 4th, 2013
6:06 pm
Bro: I don’t have to make sh*t up like some of the brainless posters here. I am more than capable of thinking on my own and finding fault with the man without having to fabricate crap to get angry about.
Well, at least their home and off the streets. These blogs, unbeknownst to millions of people, are keeping the crazies, (some of them) indoors.
It was either this or rerunning those Dukes of Hazard sitcoms.
Conned — Look! Shiny!……
Vast Right Wing Conspiracy (aka "Knuckle-Dragger")
February 4th, 2013
6:11 pm
If you can’t defend the indefensible, it is better to be a democrat – you won’t have to.
Class of '98
February 4th, 2013
6:12 pm
“If you can’t defend the indefensible, it is better to be a democrat – you won’t have to.”
You’ve obviously never seen a video of a late-term, partial-birth abortion.
Erwin's cat
February 4th, 2013
6:13 pm
stands…I get it…my assessment is a bit rough…I agree with the boy scouts…leave it better than you found it”…I just think a lot of folks over sensationalize the power of man (again, not aimed at you)….when the earthquake tsunami hit Japan and destroyed the reactors most here and in particular Cynthia Tucker said…”you can’t manage mother nature”…in other words we are powerless against such an opponent, but we can fix global warming…I am convinced we don’t know enough to make minor changes much less sweeping one…I just ask we study it, openly debate it (instead of shouting down the opposing opinion)…it’s a process…and even if it as bad as TaxPayer thinks…another couple years of scrutiny to better understand the issue is warrented…it’s a drop in time….and that’s what we’re talking about
DebbieDoRight - A Do Right Woman
February 4th, 2013
6:14 pm
You seem to be tarring the entire GOP flock with the idiotic statements of a couple…perhaps it has since become party dogma but I haven’t seen it yet.
I thought I was being subtle! Dangit!
Nobody needs to get into a womans reproduction glands unless invited. But to paint all with the brush of one or two particular dumbasses is not bona fide IMO.
Well, you know that’s the funny part Stevie. When the MEN have a chance to stand up for whats right and say what you’ve just said above OR to vote NO to ridiculous invasive intrusion into a woman’s body for the sake of “helping said woman” — they don’t seem to be able to do that!
That makes a lot of women think, justly i might add, that they TALK a good game, but when its time to ACT, they are strangely silent.
What speaks louder than words? Action perhaps? The republican males, especially those in Congress and at the State Level who are making up these laws, have been quiet.
indigo
February 4th, 2013
6:15 pm
Erwins cat – 5:42
No scientist, upon having his veracity challenged, would start a response by “Ha ha”, BOY.
Brosephus™
February 4th, 2013
6:17 pm
It is easy to say it’s all our fault..we can be heard at ballot box but IMO the situation suggests the opposite.
How is the situation the opposite? Are you of the opinion that most voters are too dumb to form their own opinions and merely vote based on the shiny objects that are shown on tv? I tend to think that there are many who are capable of thinking on their own.
The reason why a very large majority of congressional seats are uncontested is due to money.
Bull hockey!!!! Most seats run uncontested because of the makeup of the districts. What politician is going to run in a district where his voter base is less than 40% of the eligible voters?
I no longer “buy” the argument that its up to us to make changes “from the outside”.
Well, if you’re whining that you can’t do it without the money, how else are you going to make the change? The system doesn’t work without the voter. It doesn’t matter if a candidate spends $5 or $5 billion. Without actual living and breathing people casting a vote for them, their spending is worthless.
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EC
I think you nailed it!!!
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DDR
You never know nowadays with the popularity of the iPad and other mobile devices…
Stevie Ray..Clowns to the left and Jokers to the right..here I am...
February 4th, 2013
6:17 pm
Class of ‘98
February 4th, 2013
6:12 pm
Hmmm. This is getting philosophical…if you choose, you can choose to defend what one party contends is indefensible and prove their position flawed. You can avoid a forced sneak attack and the video of your hiding, regardless of whether the position is indefensible or not…or if subsequent debate results in all in agreement that position is acceptable. Unfortunately, corrections are NEVER front page news…generally found in small type in back…
Erwin's cat
February 4th, 2013
6:25 pm
indigo -Erwins cat – 5:42
No scientist, upon having his veracity challenged, would start a response by “Ha ha”, BOY
Ha….how would you know how a scientist responds….do you know someone who knows someone who knows one?
Stevie Ray..Clowns to the left and Jokers to the right..here I am...
February 4th, 2013
6:32 pm
Brosephus™
February 4th, 2013
6:17 pm
I’m not whining there big daddy. Its all nice and patriotic but reality is it’s money that talks. Most voters aren’t dumb but apathetic. Why bother is the norm…I do think the vast majority of voters never change allegiance and simply use talking points to shout the opponents down.
And yes, it may take a few tries to turn the 40% into a majority but it can be done. It will take money.
Spending is not worthless..if that were true, why do members of the House spend 30% of their time raising money?
Nothing will change Bro, that is until the private money is eliminated from the equation at all levels. Then and only then IMO will competition be generated for most seats and our ability to effect change has any traction.
DebbieDoRight - A Do Right Woman
February 4th, 2013
6:33 pm
Later gators! I have some leftover wings at home with my name all over them! Ciao Bellas!
Uh Huh...THIS AIN'T ABOUT OBAMA. Cons can RUN but you can't HIDE.
February 4th, 2013
6:34 pm
@Class of ‘98
February 4th, 2013
6:12 pm
“If you can’t defend the indefensible, it is better to be a democrat – you won’t have to.”
You’ve obviously never seen a video of a late-term, partial-birth abortion.
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Most people have not seen a late-term partial birth abortion.
What “WE” all have seen are STARVING, NEGLECTED, ABUSED children.
“YOU” should be more CONCERNED about those children that are living and
need “OUR” help.
When was the last time you HELPED a STARVING, NEGLECTED, ABUSED child?
It is EASY for you to spew your rhetoric about the unborn but “YOU”
DO NOTHING to HELP the living.
Uh Huh
F. Sinkwich
February 4th, 2013
6:35 pm
Unfortunately Jay’s video won’t play on my iPad, so I can only assume it besmirches the Chipster in some fashion for landing a $150K job under some nefarious circumstances.
First of all, we should withdraw ALL government funding from Public Broadcasting. Period. Elmo makes hisself $200 million a year without it.
That said, so what if he got a job? There aren’t enough around even now after four years of save-the-planet O’bozo.
Brosephus™
February 4th, 2013
6:36 pm
Nothing will change Bro, that is until the private money is eliminated from the equation at all levels.
And I’m guessing that the pols in DC will have to make that decision on their own too, huh? It will take the efforts and pushing of voters to get that to happen. Hence, my position that the power of voters trumps the power of money. The only reason we haven’t seen change yet is because the people with the power to push such a message don’t give a sh*t about that message.
Stevie Ray..Clowns to the left and Jokers to the right..here I am...
February 4th, 2013
6:37 pm
DebbieDoRight – A Do Right Woman
February 4th, 2013
6:14 pm
I am and will always be pro choice, pro gays, pro get religion out of the equation, and afraid of guns.
Anytime some religious right person gets on high horse about abortion, my sphincter tightens…thats fear disguised as arrogance..
Rightwing troll
February 4th, 2013
6:43 pm
I see there’s one less conservative voter in Alabama tonight… Thankfully the little boy survived, I hope the old wingnut perv didn’t do anything to the boy, he’s going to be scarred enough from this as it is…
Doggone/GA
February 4th, 2013
6:44 pm
“I don’t shoot much, but I thought when you shoot skeet, you yell “pull” and shoot it way up in the air”
In case you didn’t know…and it appears you don’t…skeet shooting is, essentially, training for shooting birds that “bust” out of cover. They don’t ALWAYS fly straight up, so to hone your skills you set the artificial target to “fly” at different angles. It’s just a tad hard to hit a low flying bird with your gun pointed “way up in the air”
Tom Middleton
February 4th, 2013
6:45 pm
Now if we can get the Salvation Army to step up and do the right thing, we’ll be getting somewhere!
josef
February 4th, 2013
6:45 pm
TROLL
“I see there’s one less conservative voter in Alabama tonight”
That comment was uncalled for.
F. Sinkwich
February 4th, 2013
6:46 pm
“I see there’s one less conservative voter in Alabama tonight…”
Uh, no.
It’s common knowledge this lunatic was an Occutard.
Look it up.
josef
February 4th, 2013
6:49 pm
DOGGONE
Remember when Mr. Drysdale took Uncle Jed skeet shooting?
Doggone/GA
February 4th, 2013
6:50 pm
“Remember when Mr. Drysdale took Uncle Jed skeet shooting?”
Sorry, no I don’t. I wasn’t a regular view of that show.
Tom Middleton
February 4th, 2013
6:50 pm
Oops. wrong commentary.
Erwin's cat
February 4th, 2013
6:50 pm
Stevie – Anytime some religious right person gets on high horse about abortion, my sphincter tightens…thats fear disguised as arrogance..
the sphincter or the horse?
Tom Middleton
February 4th, 2013
6:51 pm
I remember when Ellie Mae nearly poked some man’s eyes out with her headlights!
Erwin's cat
February 4th, 2013
6:53 pm
Remember when Mr. Drysdale took Uncle Jed skeet shooting?
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I thought you were younger than that…even for the re-runs
Logical Dude
February 4th, 2013
6:53 pm
Doggone: In case you didn’t know…and it appears you don’t
Yep, you got me. I’ve only been shooting at ground based targets, not skeet shooting.
and when I said “way up in the air”, I meant along the lines of “above the horizon” where Obama seems to be aiming.
Thanks for the help!
TaxPayer
February 4th, 2013
6:54 pm
Erwin does not know what I think about the impact of global warming given that I have not stated an opinion. However, I have presented the findings of actual climate scientists on numerous occasions and have offered to discuss those findings with anyone willing to have an open an honest exchange.
Doggone/GA
February 4th, 2013
6:55 pm
“and when I said “way up in the air”, I meant along the lines of “above the horizon” where Obama seems to be aiming”
You might be interested to know, that in regularly hunted areas the pheasants have a decided tendency to run rather than “bust out”…because the ones that flew got shot, and the ones that ran didn’t. Evolution in action!
josef
February 4th, 2013
6:55 pm
DOGGONE
Funny thing. I was offended by the show when it first aired. Watching in in reruns, I have really grown to appreciate it.
TOM
td
February 4th, 2013
6:56 pm
Which one of the progressives on the blog are going to come out in favor of this global warming approach?
“Want to reduce the effects of global warming? Stop working so hard. Working fewer hours might help slow global warming, according to a new study released Monday by the Center for Economic Policy and Research.
A worldwide switch to a “more European” work schedule, which includes working fewer hours and more vacation time, could prevent as much as half of the expected global temperature rise by 2100, according to the analysis, which used a 2012 study that found shorter work hours could be associated with lower carbon emissions.
The Center for Economic Policy and Research is a liberal think tank based in Washington.”
http://www.usnews.com/news/articles/2013/02/04/-study-global-warming-can-be-slowed-by-working-less
Mr Right
February 4th, 2013
6:57 pm
Jay
February 4th, 2013
5:21 pm
And that was how many years ago? Very good, hope you also wrote about the Hotdog (Weiner) scandal also! Hmmm—- about to believe this is a nonpartisan thread! LOL for real!
josef
February 4th, 2013
6:58 pm
ERWIN
I’m old enough to rememver December Bride!
Erwin's cat
February 4th, 2013
6:59 pm
TP – As much as I appreciate you answering the unasked question…
surely you have a link to someone else’s work or opinion….
Erwin's cat
February 4th, 2013
7:01 pm
josef……LOL
Brosephus™
February 4th, 2013
7:01 pm
Logical Dude
Take a look at Debbie’s post at 5:44 for video of another president shooting on the very same range as Obama. She linked something I posted on a previous thread. I linked video and photos of the Camp David skeet range in use. Check the gun angles then vs now.
Logical Dude
February 4th, 2013
7:02 pm
td: A worldwide switch to a “more European” work schedule, which includes working fewer hours and more vacation time,
Well, Telecommuting will help as well. The more people can work remotely, the less they have to drive, or even move cities when a job opens up.
I see telecommuting as one of the major factors in reducing individual energy usage. Next is finding ways to streamline energy for all those electrons beaming back and forth over the interwebs and stuff.
indigo
February 4th, 2013
7:03 pm
Erwin’s cat – 6:25
I can tell, from the intellectual level of your posts, you’re about as much a scientist as the squirrles in my yard.
Latrina
February 4th, 2013
7:04 pm
The national GOP is on the ropes and the GA GOP will be close behind once the electorate finally gets a snoot full of these Chip Rogers-like antics.
TaxPayer
February 4th, 2013
7:05 pm
Erwin at 6:59,
First, you replied to another blogger with a false claim about me hence my response to you indicating your untruthful claim.
Second, I have provided two links to information on climate change in this very thread. Use your investigative skills that any good scientist should have and find them. Scientist… You.
Thanks, I needed that laugh.
td
February 4th, 2013
7:05 pm
Logical Dude
February 4th, 2013
7:02 pm
I agree with the teleworking. It would also solve the traffic problems in most urban areas.
Tom Middleton
February 4th, 2013
7:05 pm
josef
Did you see my link to Buffy on Groundhog’s Day. Love that song with her on that mouth-bow thing she plays.
Real Scootter
February 4th, 2013
7:06 pm
You might be interested to know, that in regularly hunted areas the pheasants have a decided tendency to run rather than “bust out”…because the ones that flew got shot, and the ones that ran didn’t. Evolution in action!
LOL Doggone,not where I pheasant hunt.I’m a lousy shot and shoot more on the ground than in the air.
Erwin's cat
February 4th, 2013
7:07 pm
indigo – Erwin’s cat – 6:25
I can tell, from the intellectual level of your posts, you’re about as much a scientist as the squirrles in my yard.
yeah…..have you kept them outta the bird feeder yet?
Logical Dude
February 4th, 2013
7:08 pm
Bro: Check the gun angles then vs now.
Yep, very similar.
I guess I’ll keep to target shooting. I dislike moving targets and/or shotguns don’t tell me how well I’m aiming.
Plus there’s the nice “DING” of hitting the metal target.
Rightwing troll
February 4th, 2013
7:11 pm
Sporting clays feature many different angles and scenarios. Bolting rabbit was always a favorite of mine.
Erwin's cat
February 4th, 2013
7:11 pm
TaxPayer….anytime you want to have a real objective conversation about it I am all for it….like I said earlier, I’m used to being wrong more often than right…it’s science afterall…there is no shame in being wrong…data is king…presentation is another matter
Redneck Convert (R--and proud of it)
February 4th, 2013
7:16 pm
Values like standing in school when an adult entered the room. Like being seriously disciplined for bad behavior. Like when we were measured by our successes and failures.
Well, glad that Canada guy got it all out of his system. There’s nothing like whaling the tar out of a kid to show him how much you love and care about him. Why, I remember teachers that use to spend summer days fashioning new paddles with holes drilled in them to make it hurt more.
Or maybe there’s some people that have just spent too many days on this earth and need to move on to the next world. I pray just about every night that one of them don’t get to be in charge of us here on earth. I got enough a-holes that like to show me how much they love and care about me. I don’t need more.
Have a good night everybody.